March 13, 2025 • 48 mins
Today we are joined by two more speakers from the most recent Be One conference, Mo and Kirsten Brossette. Many of you kn ow Mo since he is very well plugged in and a huge part of every single leadership group that has come through. Mo has changed so many lives within this group just because of his pressence and his ability to show up for the group wherever he is needed. His amazing wife Kirsten is a badass who we have heard plenty of stories about through Mo, and this weekend was one of the first times many of us got to meet her. Mo and Kirsten have recently moved to Utah to be closer to this community and to be able to be a cornerstone in peoples lives out here. Enjoy this interview with them tallking about the things in life that they know to be true.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to the we Are the Day Podcast.
I am your host, Jimmy Rex, the founder and CEO
of We Are the Day, and this podcast has been
specifically designed for you to get to know on a
deeper level the members of this community. What makes us
so special, why are these relationships so thick? And really
what is going on at these events? What are these
members experiencing, how do they grow? Why are they so
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committed to this cause? And so, as you're listening to
this program, if you have interest, check us out on
whatmovement dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And with that, let's get to today's episode.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Welcome back to the Weird the Day Podcast. We are
joined by Moe and Kirsten Brissett. Thank you guys for
coming on the podcast. First off, absolutely thanks for having us.
It'll be fun. There's gonna be a good one. You
guys know Mo. Every single group knows MO. I think
I think you're technically a member of Group four at
this point. I think we've adopted you enough to where.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yes, you're a member for yeah, I was initiated into
Group forward exactly think Christmas Party.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So yeah, honorary member.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yes, now you're you're a true member of Group for
you're an honorary member of every other basically, I think
that's I think that's fair. Yeah, so we're taking MOE
as a part of our group, and in true Watt fashion,
we normally start off with how you found out about
what and why you joined, but Moe's a little bit different.
So we're going to get your story of you know,
how you met Jimmy and just how you found out
about what Jimmy was doing with the other day and
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why you decided to come be a very important part
of all this.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, I met Jimmy through my best friend David Vibora
from our foundation atf in Dallas, and that everybody knows
they Climb Kill Majar together.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And yeah, Jimmy knew a little bit about my.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Story and what I did for the foundation and when
he started what and he had I think the first
or second lootis with Group one. Yeah, he had myself
and Phil Kintana, who Climb Kill Manjar with him as well,
come out and speak and take the guys through what
everyone now knows as the rock evolution. And yeah, I
just started with that and then came back and started
doing it with Group two. Then you know, you guys
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are four and really just started embedding myself into the process.
And really I was only I was just coming in
for those evolutions and that weekend, and it just so
happened that I was actually coming to you. I came
your first loutis in Moab, YEP to just record a
video for the for the next Gen, and then ended
up staying and helping you guys and holding space during
the Hotbay ceremony and all that stuff. And then the
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second Loutist was the one I was doing. And then
it just kind of snowball from there, so and here
we are.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It kind of snowballed in a way that's like, all right,
most important we did him hear.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And everything exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I think that's I think that's just super cool because
like thinking back to it, Yes, you're was the main
focus on the group two of the rock evolution, right,
you talked about all that, but you're part of the
first Loutist was so important too, Like I was being
able to hear from you, you being a part of
the next GAMP program. I think there were a lot
of people who were really interested in the next GAM
program at that point too, So there was a lot
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of conversations being held around that. So you were very
valuable in not just the second lootist where obviously that's
where your focus was, but being there for the first
lidstr Yeah, so we appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, thank you man.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And to the flip side, Kirsten, how did you feel
learning about, you know, the WATT experience and learning what
Moe was doing with this.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Group incredible because he has such a powerful way of
working with people and he is he has the ability
to have this very strong presence and a look that
is strong as well, but can hold the compassion and
hold the heart. And I think especially with men, having
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somebody to who's more like a mentor or a teacher
who is able to hold both sides of that I
think is very important because just how society has been
in the last couple of years, you are either have
to be on one side of the spectrum or the other,
and to have somebody who can play between both and
find a really cool middle ground I think is really awesome.
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So hearing that he was able to start working with
these men and then become a bigger part in the
WAT movement and just almost like you're so embedded now
that it's really cool to see the different transformation. And
I would all meet some of the guys who work
with MO and all I hear is I'm my god,
you're so amazing like this or that, And as somebody's
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partner and wife, it's really cool to hear the impact
that they're having.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
That's that's beautiful, like just putting it that way and
saying it in those terms of being so proud of
your partner, right, So I love that. And it leads
us to our main conversation point, which is the B
one conference, the relationship conference that we had this weekend.
I'm curious right off the bat, just your guys' biggest
takeaway from being able to speak at the conference? What
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was the one thing that stood out to you guys
from you know, preparing and being up in front of
all the people and going into the details that you
guys talked about.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Go first, love, Yeah, go first.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So you can marint it on a little bit like yeah, yeah, yeah,
I like I like that deference there.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
See, this is this is how, this is what couples do. Man.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
It's cool because like literally the week we met, we
started talking about doing stuff like this. I remember, like
the night we met, we were talking about because I
was already speaking, she had done so speaking, and I
remember you saying like, I'd love.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
This for us to share the stage together.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
We had such a such a close connection so fast,
like we already knew it. We wanted to do things
in life together, and we've really been we've literally been
manifesting this since twenty twenty. And you know, we wanted
to do a couple's retreat and we wanted to just
speak on stage together. And obviously, you know, with the
pandemic and things like that, it just never never came
to fruition.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And the biggest lesson and all that was just be patient.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You know, it's going to come when it's going to come,
as it's supposed to, when it's supposed to. And I'm
glad it did, because if we would have done it before,
we would have had we would have the knowledge, we
would have the ability to speak about certain things, but
we wouldn't be able to talk to it at the
depth that we can now, being in the relationship that
we've been in for the last five years and using
the experience from both of us in our past, learning
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from those relationships and not holding any regret in those relationships,
but really learning, learning and seeing those as an opportunity
of growth and valuing more we have. So being able
to step on stage and actually be the first ones
to present and really setting the quote, stage and container
for the rest of the day was just a beautiful process.
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And that's something you told We spoke about through the
course of the day as like, Wow, it's cool that
we got to start and just kind of set the
container for the things that were going on for the
rest of the day.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
And it's so cool to also see the different speakers
and the pieces that they brought in because it's you know,
in so many instances, there's such a breath of information
out there, and to have so many people talk about
things that are a little bit more laser focused or
things that are a little bit more general, I think
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brought it together so well and tied it up into
a nice little bow. But it was, like he was saying,
it was a really cool honor to be able to
kick off the whole entire event and also have that
trust from Jimmy. I know you have the trust from Jimmy,
but I'm still new into this space. So to be
up there and to be trusted with that weight of
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something that was really cool.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah. So you've done speaking engagements before then, Okay, I
was gonna say, you look natural on stage, So I
was like, I don't know if it was your first
time or I know.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So the later that day they like, her posture is
so wonderful. Oh my god, Nah, it's great. That's the
dancer in her. She just walks out, commands his presence
with our perfect posture.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's so beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You so, was that your biggest takeaway of being up
there on that first day, Just that trust and being
a part of it.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I think there were so many different takeaways because all
the like I said, all the speakers have had such
a really cool, unique perspective to bring.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
One of the main one was the anthropology.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Just yah.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
I thought that was really cool because we've we've, like
Mo's has said, we've done work separately, and so when
we came together, we were able to have a little
bit of personal development work to lean back on when
we did have challenges or when we were going through something,
but to be able to listen to somebody and pull
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in different like you never you never know everything. Yeah,
there's always something to learn, and being able to come
to relationships or certain instances with a beginner's mind and okay,
what do what else can I learn? You know, what
else is out there? And so that was a really
cool thing that I you know, we've we talked about
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you have three pillars in a relationship. There's you, your partner,
and then the relationship. And so being able to put
your perspective aside and then really hear somebody and listen
to what they're saying. Uh, it is something that we practice.
But the anthropologist that was just that was I'm like, okay,
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put the things to the nap, give it to the nap, Yeah,
and then put on the question. And so it was
I loved that.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I really did.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, And I'll tell you that from from our specific talk,
it was cool to read the crowd and you can
see when you know, as the speaker, when people are engaged,
and you can see the confirmation in the facial expressions
and the activity and basically like the follow along when
we were talking. Yeah, and just in the feedback that
we received as well about how well we flowed together
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and someone asked like, how did y'all practice this right?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
No, we didn't, like, we just wrote it down. We
came up with the outline.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
We actually wrote the outline the day before just to
have it and but we The takeaway is like, this
is we were designed to do things like this together
because we do flow naturally, not just in this, but
I mean everything we do together. It just it's just
natural balance this e and flow between both of us.
So it was just it was beautiful to finally be
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able to get on a stage in front of people
and let it come to fruition and prove what we
already knew.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I like that, and it was it was what I
was going to ask, and you kind of answered it
by saying, I don't know if I have an answer
to that, which is like, how do you guys flow
so well together? And your answer is basically just HiT's natural, right,
it's almost instinct for you guys. Do you feel that
exact same why Curshon.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's a little bit
of both. It's a both and yeah, where you know,
we we understand each other's strengths and where there's a
moment of support that we would need, yeah, you know,
and so we've done that in our relationship where the
strengths are there and we're like, amazing, incredible, I'm going
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to support this. And then when we have those moments
where there's uncertainty or a little bit of weakness, we
can feel that with each other. If you get into
energetics and really tuning into your partner and what they're
feeling outside of what they're saying or how they're carrying themselves,
I think is really important. I personally believe that's how
we were able to, especially on stage in front of people,
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go back and forth because we did have this. Neither
one of us wants to speak over the other person,
Neither one of us wants to be right. Neither one
of us sometimes I like to be right, but there's
that mutual respect of giving the other person space to
be seen and be heard, even though we may also
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have something to say.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, so I think that's something that.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We do really well.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, it was really It was cool too because I
would look at you and I was watching I was
watching your facial expressions in your body language, and a
literally I just knew, I knew one to hold on
for a second, and I knew when you there was
a second when you would.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Pause, Okay, now time. Yeah, yeah, it was cool. Yeah,
it was fun. Man.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I think there's something special about you guys. And then
the Grinder's talking as well. We had on the podcast
last week where it's just because you guys are so
in tune with each other, and you guys have gone
through so much together, you're able to just flow and
bounce off each other so well as with you know,
and I'm not saying anything bad about the solo speakers,
but it's like they're up there by themselves, right, they
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don't have that other person to bounce back off of.
You guys are able to just easily flow through a
conversation while basically presenting that to other people. I think
that's so powerful. So, did you guys have any nerves
or anything like that going up there? We being around
so many people that you know and care about so dearly.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah always, yeah, dude. I I before I get up
in front of you guys to talk, I get nervous.
I do every time. Yeah, But what I tell people
is like, that's you should you know exactly, if it's
something you care about, you're gonna get nervous. There's gonna
be a bit of fear there. So always like as
soon as we walk back to the back, I was.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Like, ooh, here comes. But that's when I do it.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I go into the breath work and I just let
myself breathe and allow myself to feel it, and I
use that energy to go on stage with and then
just calm myself down when I get up there.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah. Always, I'm always nervous.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Curson the same question.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I do get the shaky knees initially,
and that was the some I wear worn heels and
quite some time, and of course I choose to do
it in front of people. But yeah, it's it's it
is that it's mixture of excitement and if you look
at the body and how the body reacts to nerves,
nerves are excitement. It's the same bodily reaction. And so
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when I do start getting those nerves and butterflies, I
just W'm like, I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I'm excited to do this.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I'm really excited to do this, but I also have
to remind myself to slow down. They have a tendency.
Especially when I first started speaking, I would race through
because you have the information, you want to get it out,
you want to get it out in a certain amount
of time, but then you're also nervous on top of that,
and so just reminding myself and also doing breath work
and just long deep.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Breaths as we're walking in.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah, but it definitely always presents itself even behind the
scenes doing like a webinar because I want to hit
all the pieces. So yeah, there's an element of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I just think it's so fascinating because you guys were
the first ones to go right, and so there is
a little bit of additive pressure to that. But to
your point earlier, MO, where you guys are up there
trying to set that container, that's what you guys were
up there for, and obviously there was so much that
went into your guys' talk, but being the first ones,
you guys are setting that tone. You guys are setting
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the stage, and it's so important within this community set
that container. You guys had that almost additive pressure on
you in that way, but it's a community of people
who know and care about you, right, And I think
that plays so much of a factor into it, where
you're setting that container for people that you love and
care about, and I think that's so special and so unique.
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So that being said, did that relieve any of that
for you guys? Where it was like, I know these
people right you look out on the stage and I
know for you you were sitting there and Taylor Knowles
right there, you ran one hundred miles with or right.
So it's people like that who you know incredibly well
that take any of that off for you.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I mean I knew I had Taylor right here, I
had Robbie right now to the yeah, and I knew, like,
these are like, y'all are my people, man, Like I
love y'all so much, so I knew, like as soon
as I look out and I see I see y'all's faces,
it just feels like home. Yeah, you know, I'm like, ah,
this is where we're supposed to be. Man, this just
feels so good.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, person, I know you're still new to the community, but.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
That was definitely. It's when when you walk into a
space where everybody knows your partner and knows the other
person in there so comfortable, there's still that element of
will they like me, Will I do just as good
as a job as he is going to be doing,
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And there is that It's not an element of am
I enough or will I be okay? It's more of
an element of I know how how how much he's
affected lives in the group, and wanting to also just
almost hold my own in that space. And yeah, I
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think it was really amazing because you welcomed me in,
and the crowd welcomed me in, and everybody, you know,
everybody we meet is always so nice and genuine and
truly wants to get to know you. So there was
that element of Okay, I know how kind everybody is,
but there's still like the nerves and the excitement of like,
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will will I be accepted as well?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah? Exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Now I think that's completely fair. And you guys just
moved out here to Utah as well, so yes, grats
for being out here. But that also leads me into
the conversation point, which is you're now plugged in, right,
like there is something about what where that is very
Utah centric. I think it's safe to say that. I
think there are people who come from all over the country,
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but there are so many people here locally that it's
hard not to embrace this as almost this home base.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So, now that you are here at this home base
and I'm going to have you start with this, Kirsten,
But how are you looking forward to, you know, meeting
all these people and being able to connect with all
these great relationships and all the great couples and families
that are around here.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So stoked.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Yeah, I have been desiring community for such a long time.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I grew up.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I grew up in Park City, Utah, so I'm familiar
with the area, but I very quickly left once I
graduated and thought I was never coming.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Back to Utah, as a lot of Utah people do
it just through this.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Whole process, you know, when he said what about going
back to Utah? And you know, we have such community
there built in with want and the it wasn't as
scary thought. It was more out of curiosity of like, Okay,
what what does that look like? And from being in
Colorado and being in Texas. MO had a huge community
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in Texas. I moved there when I was when it
was COVID literally shut it down the day I got there.
So I had a little bit of a harder time
finding that community. In Colorado. Everybody was so spread out
that it was hard to do life with people there.
So that's one of the things that I'm really excited
about is because what I've seen just from you know,
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being friends with people on Instagram or seeing how Moe's
community of the men just do things with each other.
It's that's something that I've been desiring for so long
that I'm so excited to be here and have individuals
or connect with the women, or connect with couples or
just have a cookout. It's just that type of stuff
makes me so happy. Yeah, to even just like think
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about it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And Mo your answer to that, because you've been very
vulnerable about, you know, wanting that community and being a
part of it. Now like you're now just fully embraced
into it. So how does that feel being out here?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
So good? It feels like home.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
That's what we just we talked about that today and
she was so And the way it worked out was
she was going on a trip for her work and
she was gone for three weeks and I was literally
just sitting at my house in Colorado by myself with
the dogs.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I was like, Man, this sucks, yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Know, and I was watching like you guys getting together
here and doing stuff and going to h Q. I'm like,
I have to get out of here, like we need
to leave. So literally, you guys are the reason we
moved here, and like we we thrive in community, and
we thrive on being able to just be around people
and and serve in different ways like having people over.
You know, like obviously everybody in group four knows each other,
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everyone in group six knows each other, et cetera. We
want to be able to to to be kind of
like the the the whatever the word is, to bring people,
to bring more people together. So like she said, like
we want to we'll host the events at our house,
We'll do cookouts, we'll do stuff like that, just to
just to be around more people and to build deeper
connections and just even have fun.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You know. It doesn't have to go out to get
together and like go deep every time, but.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
It's just like we want to hang out with cool
people and that's why we're here.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, I love that that that part you said. I
think it's very lot focused to be like everyone else
to get together and be super intentional and get deep
and let's just come just hang out.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Let's cook some food and watch watch football or something
that jokes exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, I think that's actually something that our group had
a hard time with that first. Yeah, like our group
for the first three just six months, I feel like
we're very not necessarily disconnected, but not connected in the
way that's just like, hey, let's just get together, right,
just have a good time.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, like just come over, man, let's just hang out.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And Jimmy has taken responsibility for that of our group.
But to a credit to Jimmy for owning up to
that mistake. But our group, our group has learned and
it's really gotten better. But I do think it is
a huge factor that you know, Mo, you are so
connected with so many other groups that you can be
the cornerstone help out a lot of people. Just connect people,
bring everyone together.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, that's what I want to do. Like we talked
about that, Her and I talked about that.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Is like I want to because like we have we
have what half a year left, and then what are
we gonna do? Like I know there are things that
we do, but I want to be we want to
be again the cornerstone for that for everybody to still
keep getting getting together and doing stuff and then bringing
in the new guys, like somebody when Group six just started,
let's bring some folks over from group six. Yeah, and
integrate those guys in and you never know what you
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happen from that, so exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I love it. Well, let's let's touch on a little
bit more of what you do with the group. One
of the things that I do want to talk about,
and I was going to have you on just individually
for this, but Kirsten Kurston's here too, so we'll have
you guys both be a part of this. But one
thing that we focus on so heavily is the O
shak goals. And I think it's really cool and it's
a unique thing. How long have you been doing that
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with the group?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Last two years?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah? Yeah, I started that you have two years ago,
started with Group two, I believe. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Talk to me about how important the oh shit goal
is and how you everybody should have this. Everyone who's
listening to this should know what the O shit goal is.
If you don't know what it is, it is a
I mean, let's put it simple. It's a activity or
thing that you do that you look at and you say,
oh shit, I just did that right, and something that
is incredibly bad ass. Yeah, talk to me about how
important that is to have, like to have different members
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have those o shit goals and to see.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Them through, I mean, in my mind, is critical. It's
it's that should be.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
It's an annual thing that every person must do, you know,
like the masogi, Like that's what we're going to go
do this weekend or something in similar to masogi. And
that's that's kind of part of where creating the old
Ship goal came from. Like it came from me signing
up for iron Man and I would sign up and
get the the get the acceptance email and oh shit,
I can't fake this, like I have to train and
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it's something that just absolutely scares the shit out of
you that you can't even even fathom doing right now.
But that's what that's what drives you to dedicate yourself
to your health, your fitness, your hydration or nutrition, your
stress management, your self talk. And when you can conquer
something like that, like man, I've watched people you know
finishing iron Man that didn't that couldn't do you know
that a year prior they maybe could run a five
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k and they dedicated themselves to that process and then
from that they became a better husband and a better wife.
They can they were more confident in their business. So
when you can accomplish something like that that's physical, it
just it plays over and bleeds into everything else in life.
So and it's it's always you know, if you if
when you stop moving, and that's when you start dying.
And you always have to challenge ourselves. Age is a number.
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I just turned fifty and I don't feel like it.
I'm still doing the same thing as I was doing
in my thirties, just as fast, just as good. And
we're only as strong as our mind allows us to be.
And when you can set an o shit goal and
you can do something like that, at least on an
annual basis, you always have something to look forward to
and you always have something to drive towards, and you
can bring your family into it, you can bring your
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friends into it. It's just there's nothing better than the
completion of something that you didn't think you could do.
There's no comparison to it. There is no feeling that
beats that.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, I love that. And to flip this on its
head back to the relationship side of things, Kirsten, when
you see you know, Mo doing all of this crazy
shit that Mo does, to say the least, what does
that mean? To you is you can show up for
him and you can just be that rock and that
support that is needed in a relationship.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
It's when I first met him and he shared with
me all the things that he did and was doing.
It's more so inspiring.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, of okay.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
This is somebody who is not just doing one thing
and then calling it quits, but it's an actual lifestyle
and going to what we talked about are the little things.
It's showing up for him and going to Florida in
a podunk town for tactical games, you know, or going
to he did a pre selection and literally watching him
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the family or your partner is able to come to
like the last hour of pre selection and they're getting
hosed down, yelled at in their face, like spat in
their faces, and it was just such an intense thing
to watch as the person who you love, this person
going through this, and you're like, they're putting themselves into this,
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so I can't feel too bad, but it's just the
the proudness that you have for somebody who dedicated so
much time I'm to looking after themselves and getting themselves
prepared and ready to do this thing and then follow
through and do it, I think is incredible because you
have so many people out there who want to do
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these really big things and have these desires or dreams
to do and challenges they want to do, but something
stops them and they allow that to stop themselves, and
there's those excuses that are created. And so to see
somebody who from the very beginning is Okay, I'm going
to do this and then sees it through is inspiring
to watch as an observer, and then it gives you
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that much more excitement to support that.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, I love that. And that's the cool thing about
the OSHA goal, right, is that you can say I'm
going to go do something badass, right. You can go
say I'm going to go do an iron Man, But
if you don't have people around you supporting you, you
might not even end up doing it right. Like having
that support, having the community, having the brotherhood. I wouldn't
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have done the I would have done the Spartan race
if the whole entire group wasn't doing it right like
that was my Oshit goal and I was able to
do it with so many brothers who wanted to go
do it and have a good time. And then you
have you know, stories of family members, right. I huge
shout out to Nick Bryant when you guys did the
rim to rim to rim. I know how important it
was for his wife to go out there and see
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him at the end of that, right, And so to
have that support around you, I think is so special, right,
And whether it be a relationship, whether it just be
this brotherhood, this community that's around you. The oshit goal is.
It's bad ass on its own, but it's even more
badass when you can do it with people that you love.
So I love that side of things right now. Talks
about that all the time, right, So yeah, I love that.
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The little things let's talk about it because you mentioned
it a little bit, and I love the little things
talking about this talk to me because this was a
big part of your guys' actual you know speech that
I really took away, which was focusing on the little
things in the relationship. Talk about how important that is. Kirston,
I'll have you go first.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
It's we always think that to impress somebody, or to
show up for somebody, or to show that you care
or love someone, it's these big to do's. I have
to throw this big birthday party, I have to get
this person, all the presents for Christmas, I have to
show them in almost like a how can I show
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that I am worthy type of way. Yeah, bringing it
back to those little things, it's like the micro movements
and the micro things that add up to so much more,
and those are usually the more meaningful things, like showing
up or picking somebody up from the airport. Even that
just yes, I can easily take the uber and it
makes it that much more special when somebody says, no,
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I'm gonna leave work, or I'm going to leave what
I'm doing and just pick you up from the airport,
or help the you know, take over the kids for
the day and you can go do whatever you want
to do. Not that we have kids, but I know
a lot of people listening to so it's it's these
little pieces that carry so much weight. Yet those are
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the ones that we are quickly to forget.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Exactly all your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah and exactly and to the kid's point, you know,
it's doing things like that without holding that over them
at some point.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Like well I took care of the kids today.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
No no, no no, Then you just negated everything you just did,
you know, for example, like when she was gone on
one of her trips, just because I wanted to do
this for it and because I know how good this feels.
I want her to come home to I went, I
took her car, got to wash, filled up with gas,
cleaned it out for so when she came home, she
had a clean vehicle full of gas and she was
ready to go.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
And it's little things like that like I talked about
on stage, like I wake up first. I like to
make coffee early for us. And I know what she
she you know, she has sensitive teeth. She doesn't like
to drink hot things. So I know if I make
it early enough, as soon as she gets up, she
can enjoy the coffee, you know, listening to the right
type of music, having the right type of setting in
the house, and those little intentional things that they stack
up over time. It doesn't have to be this like you,
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like you said, this grandiose event. Those are cool to
do occasionally, But when we're talking about life, when we're
talking about the law longevity in the partnership and the relationship,
it's just what can I do on a daily basis
to serve you because I love you and I want
to show you I care, and I do this with
intention and attention and it's felt, you know. It's just
like you can read people's energy, you can feel energy.
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You can feel when you do something little, when it
comes from a space of love.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, and that's it.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I think that's important to distinguish. It's the intention behind it,
because you could say, oh, I know this makes this
person so happy, so I'm just going to do this,
and so they don't like, yeah, like wine trying not
to guess, bitch and moan, like when somebody I'm doing
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this so they don't do X exactly. Is the wrong
way to come to something if it's I'm doing this
because I know it makes them happy, and I know
it's not even something they are asking for. It's just
something that I know would make their life easier. It's
it's that intention. And something else you said is serving. Yeah,
how can I almost serve this person and serve our relationship?
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And that's that third pillar. I'm serving this relationship so
we can make it as strong as it can be.
And it's not necessarily doing it for brownie points.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
And like I mentioned on stage, and we had to
we rust a little bit because I looked at the
clock and when it started, they started it at twenty
eight minutes and.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I was like, oh god, we got to hurry. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
But like with the country dancing, like I know, there
were several guys that I know that were so nervous
about doing that country dancing and they didn't want to
do it. Man, But you know, your wife loves to dance.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
And you don't have to be perfect at it. You
don't even have to be good at it.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
In fact, the more you suck and you just go
out there and play like you're having fun. That's what
my partner wants. She doesn't want me to go out
there and spin around and be you know, like I'm
on Dancing with the Stars. She wants her guy to
show up with full intention and just play. And if
you can allow yourself to be seen oftentimes, especially speaking
to you guys, not as is the masculine man, but
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just be a dude that can't.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I don't know what the hell I'm doing right now.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
I feel like I have three left feet, But I'm
gonna have some fun that is more attractive to her
than if I'm like, I don't dance. Yeah, I'm gonna
do this, but I really don't want to, or you're
out there and you're so nervous you can't allow yourself
to just let go, you know, when you let go
and just be in the moment, like I don't. As
long as I'm with her, I know I'm safe.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I'm gonna have fun.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
And hell, she leads me half the time we dance anyway,
because she's she's such a beautiful dancer. I mean, I'm
pretty damn good too, but she's more technical, so I
know how to I know how to just allow her
to move and I'm like, cool, let's go, man, I'm
flowing with you.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And that's all we care about.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, just being there, Yeah man, and that's all matters,
like when you're and that's the key, when you're there,
Yes there emotionally.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Well, I like what you said earlier, which was it's
not only about the intention, it's about the attention, right, Yeah.
Paying attention to those small little details and figuring out
those little things that are important will lead you to
living in more intentional life. Right. When you're intentional about
the things that you pay attention to, I think that's
what's really going to lead you down the road a success,
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especially in a relationship.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Yeah, and like what he said with the you know trying,
I don't dance or I don't do this, or I
don't do X fill in the blank. I've met so
many guys who specifically around dancing, who are friends and
people i've dated, dear, but just guys in general. There's
so many blocks of I have to show up in
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a certain way. And that's another thing that we talked about,
is letting go of the mask and removing the mask
that thinking you need to show up in this certain
way in order to be respected, in order to be
seen as better or you know again fill in the blank.
But when you're able to just have fun and be
your complete self with somebody, it's whether it's with your partner,
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your kids, your friends at work. Like, when you are
able to show up in everything of who you are,
that's when things start happening for you. That's when love
can be become so much more full in your life.
And it's it's almost palpable because you're not hiding behind anything.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I love that beautifully said the Masks. I want to
talk that, talk about that a little bit more more
because it's one thing that we've been talking about in
our current group and Group four, that's been our main
focused conversation. But in the relationship, I think it's almost
even more vital to be removing those masks because you
want your partner to see you who you are. Right,
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talk to me a little bit more about you know
what it takes to truly remove those masks.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
No, it takes, it takes safety, It takes feeling comfortable
being open with your partner.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You know, it's scary.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
You know, I'm not I'm kind of overusing the word vulnerable,
be really honest with you, I think if I'm open
with Kirsten, and it is, but it's scary though, you know,
like We've had a couple of conversations where I've come
to hear with some stuff and you know, I was
hoping that I got the response that I did, but
I needed to be able to do that because if
I didn't, I'm wearing this mask of I've got this
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or I'm not going to share this with you because
I want to protect you while I'm wearing this mask of.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Denial.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
And when I can take that off and just be
raw and real with her, she sees me and then
she trusts me more when she knows that I don't
have all my shit together man, and I don't pretend
like I do. And when I can open up about
those things, then then she sees me and then she
trusts me more. So it's really important that, Yeah, you
have to allow yourself to be seen as who you
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are because it's going to come out eventually. Man, when
you're in a relationship with somebody, whether you're dating, then
you get married, like, it's going to come out. And
if you don't allow yourself to take off the mask,
it's it's it's going to fester. It's almost like you know,
when you're angry and you don't let it out, it's
going to show up some way, shape or form. It's
going to come off. It's going to come off between
you two. It's might come out as rage as arguments.
(34:59):
But also so if you've ever read Body Keeps a Score,
we know that we manifest and we hold things in
our body. If you hold shit in and you're hold
If I'm wearing this mask for however many, however much time,
that can literally manifest into disease in my body.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So then what good am I for my wife? None?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Then she has to take care of me, so you
It is critical that when you start a relationship you
take the mask off, like we literally did it. I mean, hell,
the first night we met, we started just but here
I am, here's me, and that's I feel like that's
what drew us together so fast? Is I mean, I
tell this story, it's so funny. You're like, we knew
each other for like four hours and she was like,
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just so you know, if we do this, I.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Want to get married eventually. Well shit, I'm not even divorced. Shit,
but I liked you a lot and you were like
everything I was looking for.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I was like, okay, well, also, I still love my wife,
my ex wife. I'm not in love with her, but
I always tell our lover, you'll understand if that's a problem,
this isn't going to work. So if I would have
worn that mask of like of like I'm secretly if
I talked to my ex wife, hey, I love you
and she hears me, what.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
The fuck is that?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, you know, I'm like, no, no, I'm gonna get I'm
gonna let you know exactly who I am.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I'm gonna let you know everything about my relationship.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Is that way, there's nothing for me to hide from you,
and it's just been that's one of the things that's
allowed us to just grow so quickly together.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Yeah, it's a transparency.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
And Lauren and Matt talked about this in their stories
when they shared each one of their upbringings and what
had actually happened, and and through that transparency of saying,
you know, here is the full me. Yeah, that you're
not you're not having to hide by any behind anything else.
And we had a in a in a another group
setting that we were at another event and a woman
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said stood up and said, how much should I share
about my past on dates or if people ask? And
we said, share whatever you feel comfortable with, but share openly. Yeah,
Because if you're trying to hide something, and if you're
trying to keep something hidden in your past, but you're
trying to develop a relationship with some of the foundation
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is trust or part of the foundation is trust. And
if somebody can't trust that you're telling that you're not
opening up completely or or not telling them the truth
of something, then that's going to be an an energetic barrier,
whether they know it or not. So it's so important
to have that transparency and when things come up. Hey,
I don't exactly know the solution to this, but this
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is what's happening. Okay, cool, let's figure it out together.
And that way, you guys are creating a solution together
rather than somebody holding back and saying I have to
figure this out alone and then make sure everything's fine,
then bring it to my family or bring it to
my wife. For example, like finances.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, you hear it.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
So often that you know, finances are one of the
biggest things that breaks couples up because they are not
having that conversation of what are we going to do,
how are we going to do this, what does it
look like? Who takes care of? What are we able
to agree on that? And it's usually not usually, but
sometimes one person, if it's you know, if it's a
turbulent time and space in their finances, is trying to
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figure it out without the other person knowing what's actually
going wrong. Yeah, and that energetically you could feel as well,
and you're not showing up to you know, date night,
or you're not showing up for your kids, or you're
not showing up completely as you present because your brain
is leaking energy back here trying to figure out.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
What you're going to do.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yeah, and to the point of being the receiver of
that information, have compassion. Yeah, because like I said before,
like it's it's scary as hell opening up somebody, being
open and being vulnerable enough to share what you're terrified
of that you don't want to, you know, because you're
we're afraid of judgment. That's why we have the mask,
you know. So it's there's nothing she can come to
me and tell me that. I'm gonna be like, why
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didn't you say that before, or judge her about it,
because I know I know what it feels like on
the other end of that to have to open up
about something and it is terrifying. And when she read,
when she receives it with compassion and love, and I
can just see. That's why I said on stage and
I told her about Brute Force. We knew Bruforce are
going to close at some point.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
But when I when I told her that and we
were with that retreat in ConA, and she just looked
at me. She was like, we're going to be okay,
we got this, And I was like, oh my god,
thank you. It was just a thousand pounds lifted off
my body and that's what you need. So from the
receiver's end as well, that it is your job and
your duty to receive that information with love and kindness
and acceptance.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, and for anybody listening to when you do have
something to share, you can preemptively say, hey, this is
this is difficult for me to share, so that other
person listening can you're setting the tone. Yeah, you're setting
the tone. So I need I need your heart right now.
I don't need your fixing. I don't need And we
talked about this. I think a few different speakers spoke.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
On this as well.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
What do you need and what do you need in
that moment. I need you to listen. I need your
heart open. I need you to be non judgmental. I'm yesterday,
I was even talking to him. I just need you
to listen, and I don't need your personspective. Yeah, and
then then we can have a conversation to kind of
help me wrap my mind around this. But all I
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need you to do right now is listen and no perspective.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah. Wow, I love that. And it's funny because I
was going to ask you guys about the opposite side
of or the other side of the mask too, where
how can you show up and help with the other
person remove that? And you guys already answered that, Yeah,
And I think because I think that's so important. I
think it was Stephan Marco when we did the exercise
with the couples, and one of the things that she
had was one person says what they need more of
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from the other person, the other person, you know, sends
it back, right, And so I think that part of
it is so unique where it's like, hey, we're trying
our hardest to be intentional to take these masks off,
but if the other person isn't really respecting that or
giving us the container to allow us to do that,
it's kind of hard to keep being open with it, right,
trying to remove those masks.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
So it takes it definitely takes two to tango. Yeah,
and even initially, I I know that we said removing
it with your partner, but the first step is to
truly be able.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
To see yourself.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
And there's so many people who are ashamed or who
are carrying these self judgments from their past, and until
those are you don't even have to remove them right
away with yourself. It's just starting to work on that
and starting to accept yourself for who you are, because
you know, everybody talks about the importance of self love.
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In my opinion, self acceptance is the first step to
self love, which is one of the steps to removing
those masks. Yeah, it just seemed like I understand that
I did this with whatever tools I had at the time,
and whatever information and knowledge I had at the time,
and I made the best decision I could then, and
I recognize that in myself, and I accept who I
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was then and I accept who I am now, and
now you get to create from there.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah, I love that. There's so much that you guys
can provide. Stop, it's amazing. And you guys do your
relationship emergin retreats, right, that's what they are.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yes, talk to me a little bit more about that.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
So people know, you know, more of what they can
get from you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Love.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Yeah, So it's April seventeenth through the twentieth. Yeah, we're
going to be in big Bear and that is whether
you're in a relationship or not. We're going deep into
the self, which, obviously, like I said before, the self
is the critical point, and then building that into how
you're connecting in your relationship and what does that look
like in the steps to take you there. So a
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lot of it is going to be experiential, a lot
of it. We have really fun things planned outdoor activities planned,
but then also a lot of internal We're going to
go or do breathwork, ropes, course, we're going to be
out in these beautiful mountains, cold plunge. So it's incorporating
all the different aspects of what the human needs individually
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and then what the relationship needs.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
That goes into what she was talking about at the
Conference of the Three Pillars exactly. You know, it's the
it's it's me her and then us together. So it'll
be beautiful because there will be a point where I'll take
the men, she takes the ladies. Then we come back
together and we we converse, and then we'll switch. I'll
take the ladies, She'll take the men. That way we get,
we get the both and the different perspectives.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
That's awesome And Big Bear is a beautiful place to that.
Big Bear is one of my.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Favorite Yeah sports, I've never been there yet.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, Like Big Bear is up there with Park City
for me.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I love them so much. Yeah, and this is beautiful space. Man.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Her good friend is that she is a wedding planner
reading cordner, Yeah, read reading wedding retreat planner, and this
is the beautiful space. And they were they were they
used to hold weddings of this resort in the in
the summertime and they wanted to transition into more of
a retreat space, so they offered it to us.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
And it's it's just it's incredible. Men, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
And Kirsten, I want to ask you, because you know
you moved out here, you're part of this community. Now,
I know you've got a lot more going on with
your coaching, your classes. I want you to describe a
little bit more of what that looks like.
Speaker 5 (43:57):
Sure, yeah, I have something that I'm in the next
two months. It's called School of Badass or for women
specifically to remember who they are and really, like we're
talking about, take off the masks and figure out who
they are at the very core so they can show
up for themselves, their partner, their family. There's so much incorporated.
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It's almost like a holistic way of looking at this self.
So what aren't you following through on? What can you
do in preparedness for yourself, a lot of embodiment, a
lot of mental fortitude, but then also finding this this
grace along with your grit of how you can show
up and just be whatever badass means to you. And
(44:42):
it's like fem fetal type character. You know that you
get to show up as like the most coolest human
you can be for yourself and others.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
I mean, I've been watching her work on this for
the last few months and it's absolutely incredible. Like the attention,
the detail, the death of what she goes to program
these things out is like it's it's the highest professional
grade that I've ever watched in by work under.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I mean, it's just beautiful.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
It's in So any woman that's listening to just you
do yourself a service and look into this group because
she has put a lot into it and it's going
to serve a lot of humans.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
And if you're a w guy listening out there, share
that's with your wife, yes, because I'm sure there's a
lot of white Wak guys who know MO and basically
anything that most as we go with uh and so yeah,
listen to this. Go follow up where can they what's
the best way of them reaching out? They're interested?
Speaker 5 (45:38):
So if they're interest interested, Instagram is a great place.
My call sign, your handle, my handle pilot right now.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I kind of want to be I just want to
have the title.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Yes, is Kirsten dot Asher dot brosett and you can
just send me a message there. The website is School
of badassree dot com.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Perfect And if they want to reach out for the
relationship commversion, what's the best place for that too?
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Same they can contact us through Instagram. They can look
on both of our links are and our bio for
the registration and all the information about the retreats there
love them.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
What's the name of the app? I forgot to ask
you about your app?
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Oh yeah, it's so when you look at it, it's
it's ever Fit, but it's it's stay Ready. That's my
that's my mottol. That's how it trains so I live
and that's how I coach people.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Yeah, they'll get the app. I downloaded it for the
first week for Masogi training. Yeah, it's gonna be exciting Masogi.
If you guys are listening to this on Thursday, all
of us are probably flying out there. So there might
be a few good group for you guys listen to
us on the flight. So yeah, if you guys are listening,
we're ready excited for it. It's gonna be fun. Thank
you guys for coming on the podcast. We always end
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this we O the Day podcast, which is given love
giving a shout out to someone first person that comes
to your mind. Kirsten, do you have someone?
Speaker 5 (46:54):
Yes, Jacob, Jacob. We just want to say that our
hearts are with you. I know that this is a
difficult time and just know how thought about and how
loved you are, and how wanted you are, how much
impact you've made. And I know Mo has so much
more to say, but even just meeting you for the
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short times that I have you definitely leave a big impact.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
Yeah, Jacob, his soul is so pure. Just every conversation
I have with that man is just so wonderful. Like
I love his gratitudes, I love his intention, I love
the depth, I love his growth, and you.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Know my heart is just broken for him right now.
It's just yeah, but I love you man.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, I'll give love to Jacob too, said up a
Law of Tax message last night. But can never give
enough love in these situations. So Jacob, you're incredible. The
man that you are developing yourself into and becoming and
will continue to progress towards is something admirable. So we
love you. Just wanted to give you all, just want
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to give you a shout out before we end this podcast.
So thank you guys for coming on. We appreciate it.
We'll see you guys later. Thank you, thank you, thank
you for listening to another episode of the We Are
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Speaker 2 (48:46):
All I do
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
And with that, let's get to today's episode.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Welcome back to the Weird the Day Podcast. We are
joined by Moe and Kirsten Brissett. Thank you guys for
coming on the podcast. First off, absolutely thanks for having us.
It'll be fun. There's gonna be a good one. You
guys know Mo. Every single group knows MO. I think
I think you're technically a member of Group four at
this point. I think we've adopted you enough to where.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yes, you're a member for yeah, I was initiated into
Group forward exactly think Christmas Party.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So yeah, honorary member.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yes, now you're you're a true member of Group for
you're an honorary member of every other basically, I think
that's I think that's fair. Yeah, so we're taking MOE
as a part of our group, and in true Watt fashion,
we normally start off with how you found out about
what and why you joined, but Moe's a little bit different.
So we're going to get your story of you know,
how you met Jimmy and just how you found out
about what Jimmy was doing with the other day and
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why you decided to come be a very important part
of all this.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, I met Jimmy through my best friend David Vibora
from our foundation atf in Dallas, and that everybody knows
they Climb Kill Majar together.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And yeah, Jimmy knew a little bit about my.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Story and what I did for the foundation and when
he started what and he had I think the first
or second lootis with Group one. Yeah, he had myself
and Phil Kintana, who Climb Kill Manjar with him as well,
come out and speak and take the guys through what
everyone now knows as the rock evolution. And yeah, I
just started with that and then came back and started
doing it with Group two. Then you know, you guys
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are four and really just started embedding myself into the process.
And really I was only I was just coming in
for those evolutions and that weekend, and it just so
happened that I was actually coming to you. I came
your first loutis in Moab, YEP to just record a
video for the for the next Gen, and then ended
up staying and helping you guys and holding space during
the Hotbay ceremony and all that stuff. And then the
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second Loutist was the one I was doing. And then
it just kind of snowball from there, so and here
we are.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It kind of snowballed in a way that's like, all right,
most important we did him hear.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And everything exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I think that's I think that's just super cool because
like thinking back to it, Yes, you're was the main
focus on the group two of the rock evolution, right,
you talked about all that, but you're part of the
first Loutist was so important too, Like I was being
able to hear from you, you being a part of
the next GAMP program. I think there were a lot
of people who were really interested in the next GAM
program at that point too, So there was a lot
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of conversations being held around that. So you were very
valuable in not just the second lootist where obviously that's
where your focus was, but being there for the first
lidstr Yeah, so we appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, thank you man.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And to the flip side, Kirsten, how did you feel
learning about, you know, the WATT experience and learning what
Moe was doing with this.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Group incredible because he has such a powerful way of
working with people and he is he has the ability
to have this very strong presence and a look that
is strong as well, but can hold the compassion and
hold the heart. And I think especially with men, having
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somebody to who's more like a mentor or a teacher
who is able to hold both sides of that I
think is very important because just how society has been
in the last couple of years, you are either have
to be on one side of the spectrum or the other,
and to have somebody who can play between both and
find a really cool middle ground I think is really awesome.
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So hearing that he was able to start working with
these men and then become a bigger part in the
WAT movement and just almost like you're so embedded now
that it's really cool to see the different transformation. And
I would all meet some of the guys who work
with MO and all I hear is I'm my god,
you're so amazing like this or that, And as somebody's
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partner and wife, it's really cool to hear the impact
that they're having.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
That's that's beautiful, like just putting it that way and
saying it in those terms of being so proud of
your partner, right, So I love that. And it leads
us to our main conversation point, which is the B
one conference, the relationship conference that we had this weekend.
I'm curious right off the bat, just your guys' biggest
takeaway from being able to speak at the conference? What
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was the one thing that stood out to you guys
from you know, preparing and being up in front of
all the people and going into the details that you
guys talked about.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Go first, love, Yeah, go first.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So you can marint it on a little bit like yeah, yeah, yeah,
I like I like that deference there.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
See, this is this is how, this is what couples do. Man.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
It's cool because like literally the week we met, we
started talking about doing stuff like this. I remember, like
the night we met, we were talking about because I
was already speaking, she had done so speaking, and I
remember you saying like, I'd love.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
This for us to share the stage together.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
We had such a such a close connection so fast,
like we already knew it. We wanted to do things
in life together, and we've really been we've literally been
manifesting this since twenty twenty. And you know, we wanted
to do a couple's retreat and we wanted to just
speak on stage together. And obviously, you know, with the
pandemic and things like that, it just never never came
to fruition.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And the biggest lesson and all that was just be patient.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You know, it's going to come when it's going to come,
as it's supposed to, when it's supposed to. And I'm
glad it did, because if we would have done it before,
we would have had we would have the knowledge, we
would have the ability to speak about certain things, but
we wouldn't be able to talk to it at the
depth that we can now, being in the relationship that
we've been in for the last five years and using
the experience from both of us in our past, learning
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from those relationships and not holding any regret in those relationships,
but really learning, learning and seeing those as an opportunity
of growth and valuing more we have. So being able
to step on stage and actually be the first ones
to present and really setting the quote, stage and container
for the rest of the day was just a beautiful process.
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And that's something you told We spoke about through the
course of the day as like, Wow, it's cool that
we got to start and just kind of set the
container for the things that were going on for the
rest of the day.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
And it's so cool to also see the different speakers
and the pieces that they brought in because it's you know,
in so many instances, there's such a breath of information
out there, and to have so many people talk about
things that are a little bit more laser focused or
things that are a little bit more general, I think
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brought it together so well and tied it up into
a nice little bow. But it was, like he was saying,
it was a really cool honor to be able to
kick off the whole entire event and also have that
trust from Jimmy. I know you have the trust from Jimmy,
but I'm still new into this space. So to be
up there and to be trusted with that weight of
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something that was really cool.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah. So you've done speaking engagements before then, Okay, I
was gonna say, you look natural on stage, So I
was like, I don't know if it was your first
time or I know.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So the later that day they like, her posture is
so wonderful. Oh my god, Nah, it's great. That's the
dancer in her. She just walks out, commands his presence
with our perfect posture.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's so beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You so, was that your biggest takeaway of being up
there on that first day, Just that trust and being
a part of it.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I think there were so many different takeaways because all
the like I said, all the speakers have had such
a really cool, unique perspective to bring.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
One of the main one was the anthropology.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Just yah.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
I thought that was really cool because we've we've, like
Mo's has said, we've done work separately, and so when
we came together, we were able to have a little
bit of personal development work to lean back on when
we did have challenges or when we were going through something,
but to be able to listen to somebody and pull
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in different like you never you never know everything. Yeah,
there's always something to learn, and being able to come
to relationships or certain instances with a beginner's mind and okay,
what do what else can I learn? You know, what
else is out there? And so that was a really
cool thing that I you know, we've we talked about
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you have three pillars in a relationship. There's you, your partner,
and then the relationship. And so being able to put
your perspective aside and then really hear somebody and listen
to what they're saying. Uh, it is something that we practice.
But the anthropologist that was just that was I'm like, okay,
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put the things to the nap, give it to the nap, Yeah,
and then put on the question. And so it was
I loved that.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I really did.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, And I'll tell you that from from our specific talk,
it was cool to read the crowd and you can
see when you know, as the speaker, when people are engaged,
and you can see the confirmation in the facial expressions
and the activity and basically like the follow along when
we were talking. Yeah, and just in the feedback that
we received as well about how well we flowed together
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and someone asked like, how did y'all practice this right?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
No, we didn't, like, we just wrote it down. We
came up with the outline.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
We actually wrote the outline the day before just to
have it and but we The takeaway is like, this
is we were designed to do things like this together
because we do flow naturally, not just in this, but
I mean everything we do together. It just it's just
natural balance this e and flow between both of us.
So it was just it was beautiful to finally be
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able to get on a stage in front of people
and let it come to fruition and prove what we
already knew.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I like that, and it was it was what I
was going to ask, and you kind of answered it
by saying, I don't know if I have an answer
to that, which is like, how do you guys flow
so well together? And your answer is basically just HiT's natural, right,
it's almost instinct for you guys. Do you feel that
exact same why Curshon.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's a little bit
of both. It's a both and yeah, where you know,
we we understand each other's strengths and where there's a
moment of support that we would need, yeah, you know,
and so we've done that in our relationship where the
strengths are there and we're like, amazing, incredible, I'm going
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to support this. And then when we have those moments
where there's uncertainty or a little bit of weakness, we
can feel that with each other. If you get into
energetics and really tuning into your partner and what they're
feeling outside of what they're saying or how they're carrying themselves,
I think is really important. I personally believe that's how
we were able to, especially on stage in front of people,
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go back and forth because we did have this. Neither
one of us wants to speak over the other person,
Neither one of us wants to be right. Neither one
of us sometimes I like to be right, but there's
that mutual respect of giving the other person space to
be seen and be heard, even though we may also
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have something to say.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, so I think that's something that.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We do really well.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, it was really It was cool too because I
would look at you and I was watching I was
watching your facial expressions in your body language, and a
literally I just knew, I knew one to hold on
for a second, and I knew when you there was
a second when you would.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Pause, Okay, now time. Yeah, yeah, it was cool. Yeah,
it was fun. Man.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I think there's something special about you guys. And then
the Grinder's talking as well. We had on the podcast
last week where it's just because you guys are so
in tune with each other, and you guys have gone
through so much together, you're able to just flow and
bounce off each other so well as with you know,
and I'm not saying anything bad about the solo speakers,
but it's like they're up there by themselves, right, they
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don't have that other person to bounce back off of.
You guys are able to just easily flow through a
conversation while basically presenting that to other people. I think
that's so powerful. So, did you guys have any nerves
or anything like that going up there? We being around
so many people that you know and care about so dearly.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah always, yeah, dude. I I before I get up
in front of you guys to talk, I get nervous.
I do every time. Yeah, But what I tell people
is like, that's you should you know exactly, if it's
something you care about, you're gonna get nervous. There's gonna
be a bit of fear there. So always like as
soon as we walk back to the back, I was.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Like, ooh, here comes. But that's when I do it.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I go into the breath work and I just let
myself breathe and allow myself to feel it, and I
use that energy to go on stage with and then
just calm myself down when I get up there.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah. Always, I'm always nervous.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Curson the same question.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I do get the shaky knees initially,
and that was the some I wear worn heels and
quite some time, and of course I choose to do
it in front of people. But yeah, it's it's it
is that it's mixture of excitement and if you look
at the body and how the body reacts to nerves,
nerves are excitement. It's the same bodily reaction. And so
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when I do start getting those nerves and butterflies, I
just W'm like, I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I'm excited to do this.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I'm really excited to do this, but I also have
to remind myself to slow down. They have a tendency.
Especially when I first started speaking, I would race through
because you have the information, you want to get it out,
you want to get it out in a certain amount
of time, but then you're also nervous on top of that,
and so just reminding myself and also doing breath work
and just long deep.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Breaths as we're walking in.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah, but it definitely always presents itself even behind the
scenes doing like a webinar because I want to hit
all the pieces. So yeah, there's an element of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I just think it's so fascinating because you guys were
the first ones to go right, and so there is
a little bit of additive pressure to that. But to
your point earlier, MO, where you guys are up there
trying to set that container, that's what you guys were
up there for, and obviously there was so much that
went into your guys' talk, but being the first ones,
you guys are setting that tone. You guys are setting
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the stage, and it's so important within this community set
that container. You guys had that almost additive pressure on
you in that way, but it's a community of people
who know and care about you, right, And I think
that plays so much of a factor into it, where
you're setting that container for people that you love and
care about, and I think that's so special and so unique.
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So that being said, did that relieve any of that
for you guys? Where it was like, I know these
people right you look out on the stage and I
know for you you were sitting there and Taylor Knowles
right there, you ran one hundred miles with or right.
So it's people like that who you know incredibly well
that take any of that off for you.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I mean I knew I had Taylor right here, I
had Robbie right now to the yeah, and I knew, like,
these are like, y'all are my people, man, Like I
love y'all so much, so I knew, like as soon
as I look out and I see I see y'all's faces,
it just feels like home. Yeah, you know, I'm like, ah,
this is where we're supposed to be. Man, this just
feels so good.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, person, I know you're still new to the community, but.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
That was definitely. It's when when you walk into a
space where everybody knows your partner and knows the other
person in there so comfortable, there's still that element of
will they like me, Will I do just as good
as a job as he is going to be doing,
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And there is that It's not an element of am
I enough or will I be okay? It's more of
an element of I know how how how much he's
affected lives in the group, and wanting to also just
almost hold my own in that space. And yeah, I
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think it was really amazing because you welcomed me in,
and the crowd welcomed me in, and everybody, you know,
everybody we meet is always so nice and genuine and
truly wants to get to know you. So there was
that element of Okay, I know how kind everybody is,
but there's still like the nerves and the excitement of like,
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will will I be accepted as well?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah? Exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Now I think that's completely fair. And you guys just
moved out here to Utah as well, so yes, grats
for being out here. But that also leads me into
the conversation point, which is you're now plugged in, right,
like there is something about what where that is very
Utah centric. I think it's safe to say that. I
think there are people who come from all over the country,
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but there are so many people here locally that it's
hard not to embrace this as almost this home base.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So, now that you are here at this home base
and I'm going to have you start with this, Kirsten,
But how are you looking forward to, you know, meeting
all these people and being able to connect with all
these great relationships and all the great couples and families
that are around here.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So stoked.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Yeah, I have been desiring community for such a long time.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I grew up.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I grew up in Park City, Utah, so I'm familiar
with the area, but I very quickly left once I
graduated and thought I was never coming.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Back to Utah, as a lot of Utah people do
it just through this.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Whole process, you know, when he said what about going
back to Utah? And you know, we have such community
there built in with want and the it wasn't as
scary thought. It was more out of curiosity of like, Okay,
what what does that look like? And from being in
Colorado and being in Texas. MO had a huge community
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in Texas. I moved there when I was when it
was COVID literally shut it down the day I got there.
So I had a little bit of a harder time
finding that community. In Colorado. Everybody was so spread out
that it was hard to do life with people there.
So that's one of the things that I'm really excited
about is because what I've seen just from you know,
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being friends with people on Instagram or seeing how Moe's
community of the men just do things with each other.
It's that's something that I've been desiring for so long
that I'm so excited to be here and have individuals
or connect with the women, or connect with couples or
just have a cookout. It's just that type of stuff
makes me so happy. Yeah, to even just like think
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about it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And Mo your answer to that, because you've been very
vulnerable about, you know, wanting that community and being a
part of it. Now like you're now just fully embraced
into it. So how does that feel being out here?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
So good? It feels like home.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
That's what we just we talked about that today and
she was so And the way it worked out was
she was going on a trip for her work and
she was gone for three weeks and I was literally
just sitting at my house in Colorado by myself with
the dogs.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I was like, Man, this sucks, yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Know, and I was watching like you guys getting together
here and doing stuff and going to h Q. I'm like,
I have to get out of here, like we need
to leave. So literally, you guys are the reason we
moved here, and like we we thrive in community, and
we thrive on being able to just be around people
and and serve in different ways like having people over.
You know, like obviously everybody in group four knows each other,
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everyone in group six knows each other, et cetera. We
want to be able to to to be kind of
like the the the whatever the word is, to bring people,
to bring more people together. So like she said, like
we want to we'll host the events at our house,
We'll do cookouts, we'll do stuff like that, just to
just to be around more people and to build deeper
connections and just even have fun.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You know. It doesn't have to go out to get
together and like go deep every time, but.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
It's just like we want to hang out with cool
people and that's why we're here.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, I love that that that part you said. I
think it's very lot focused to be like everyone else
to get together and be super intentional and get deep
and let's just come just hang out.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Let's cook some food and watch watch football or something
that jokes exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, I think that's actually something that our group had
a hard time with that first. Yeah, like our group
for the first three just six months, I feel like
we're very not necessarily disconnected, but not connected in the
way that's just like, hey, let's just get together, right,
just have a good time.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, like just come over, man, let's just hang out.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And Jimmy has taken responsibility for that of our group.
But to a credit to Jimmy for owning up to
that mistake. But our group, our group has learned and
it's really gotten better. But I do think it is
a huge factor that you know, Mo, you are so
connected with so many other groups that you can be
the cornerstone help out a lot of people. Just connect people,
bring everyone together.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, that's what I want to do. Like we talked
about that, Her and I talked about that.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Is like I want to because like we have we
have what half a year left, and then what are
we gonna do? Like I know there are things that
we do, but I want to be we want to
be again the cornerstone for that for everybody to still
keep getting getting together and doing stuff and then bringing
in the new guys, like somebody when Group six just started,
let's bring some folks over from group six. Yeah, and
integrate those guys in and you never know what you
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happen from that, so exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I love it. Well, let's let's touch on a little
bit more of what you do with the group. One
of the things that I do want to talk about,
and I was going to have you on just individually
for this, but Kirsten Kurston's here too, so we'll have
you guys both be a part of this. But one
thing that we focus on so heavily is the O
shak goals. And I think it's really cool and it's
a unique thing. How long have you been doing that
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with the group?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Last two years?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah? Yeah, I started that you have two years ago,
started with Group two, I believe. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Talk to me about how important the oh shit goal
is and how you everybody should have this. Everyone who's
listening to this should know what the O shit goal is.
If you don't know what it is, it is a
I mean, let's put it simple. It's a activity or
thing that you do that you look at and you say,
oh shit, I just did that right, and something that
is incredibly bad ass. Yeah, talk to me about how
important that is to have, like to have different members
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have those o shit goals and to see.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Them through, I mean, in my mind, is critical. It's
it's that should be.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
It's an annual thing that every person must do, you know,
like the masogi, Like that's what we're going to go
do this weekend or something in similar to masogi. And
that's that's kind of part of where creating the old
Ship goal came from. Like it came from me signing
up for iron Man and I would sign up and
get the the get the acceptance email and oh shit,
I can't fake this, like I have to train and
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it's something that just absolutely scares the shit out of
you that you can't even even fathom doing right now.
But that's what that's what drives you to dedicate yourself
to your health, your fitness, your hydration or nutrition, your
stress management, your self talk. And when you can conquer
something like that, like man, I've watched people you know
finishing iron Man that didn't that couldn't do you know
that a year prior they maybe could run a five
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k and they dedicated themselves to that process and then
from that they became a better husband and a better wife.
They can they were more confident in their business. So
when you can accomplish something like that that's physical, it
just it plays over and bleeds into everything else in life.
So and it's it's always you know, if you if
when you stop moving, and that's when you start dying.
And you always have to challenge ourselves. Age is a number.
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I just turned fifty and I don't feel like it.
I'm still doing the same thing as I was doing
in my thirties, just as fast, just as good. And
we're only as strong as our mind allows us to be.
And when you can set an o shit goal and
you can do something like that, at least on an
annual basis, you always have something to look forward to
and you always have something to drive towards, and you
can bring your family into it, you can bring your
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friends into it. It's just there's nothing better than the
completion of something that you didn't think you could do.
There's no comparison to it. There is no feeling that
beats that.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, I love that. And to flip this on its
head back to the relationship side of things, Kirsten, when
you see you know, Mo doing all of this crazy
shit that Mo does, to say the least, what does
that mean? To you is you can show up for
him and you can just be that rock and that
support that is needed in a relationship.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
It's when I first met him and he shared with
me all the things that he did and was doing.
It's more so inspiring.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, of okay.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
This is somebody who is not just doing one thing
and then calling it quits, but it's an actual lifestyle
and going to what we talked about are the little things.
It's showing up for him and going to Florida in
a podunk town for tactical games, you know, or going
to he did a pre selection and literally watching him
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the family or your partner is able to come to
like the last hour of pre selection and they're getting
hosed down, yelled at in their face, like spat in
their faces, and it was just such an intense thing
to watch as the person who you love, this person
going through this, and you're like, they're putting themselves into this,
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so I can't feel too bad, but it's just the
the proudness that you have for somebody who dedicated so
much time I'm to looking after themselves and getting themselves
prepared and ready to do this thing and then follow
through and do it, I think is incredible because you
have so many people out there who want to do
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these really big things and have these desires or dreams
to do and challenges they want to do, but something
stops them and they allow that to stop themselves, and
there's those excuses that are created. And so to see
somebody who from the very beginning is Okay, I'm going
to do this and then sees it through is inspiring
to watch as an observer, and then it gives you
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that much more excitement to support that.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, I love that. And that's the cool thing about
the OSHA goal, right, is that you can say I'm
going to go do something badass, right. You can go
say I'm going to go do an iron Man, But
if you don't have people around you supporting you, you
might not even end up doing it right. Like having
that support, having the community, having the brotherhood. I wouldn't
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have done the I would have done the Spartan race
if the whole entire group wasn't doing it right like
that was my Oshit goal and I was able to
do it with so many brothers who wanted to go
do it and have a good time. And then you
have you know, stories of family members, right. I huge
shout out to Nick Bryant when you guys did the
rim to rim to rim. I know how important it
was for his wife to go out there and see
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him at the end of that, right, And so to
have that support around you, I think is so special, right,
And whether it be a relationship, whether it just be
this brotherhood, this community that's around you. The oshit goal is.
It's bad ass on its own, but it's even more
badass when you can do it with people that you love.
So I love that side of things right now. Talks
about that all the time, right, So yeah, I love that.
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The little things let's talk about it because you mentioned
it a little bit, and I love the little things
talking about this talk to me because this was a
big part of your guys' actual you know speech that
I really took away, which was focusing on the little
things in the relationship. Talk about how important that is. Kirston,
I'll have you go first.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
It's we always think that to impress somebody, or to
show up for somebody, or to show that you care
or love someone, it's these big to do's. I have
to throw this big birthday party, I have to get
this person, all the presents for Christmas, I have to
show them in almost like a how can I show
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that I am worthy type of way. Yeah, bringing it
back to those little things, it's like the micro movements
and the micro things that add up to so much more,
and those are usually the more meaningful things, like showing
up or picking somebody up from the airport. Even that
just yes, I can easily take the uber and it
makes it that much more special when somebody says, no,
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I'm gonna leave work, or I'm going to leave what
I'm doing and just pick you up from the airport,
or help the you know, take over the kids for
the day and you can go do whatever you want
to do. Not that we have kids, but I know
a lot of people listening to so it's it's these
little pieces that carry so much weight. Yet those are
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the ones that we are quickly to forget.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Exactly all your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah and exactly and to the kid's point, you know,
it's doing things like that without holding that over them
at some point.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Like well I took care of the kids today.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
No no, no no, Then you just negated everything you just did,
you know, for example, like when she was gone on
one of her trips, just because I wanted to do
this for it and because I know how good this feels.
I want her to come home to I went, I
took her car, got to wash, filled up with gas,
cleaned it out for so when she came home, she
had a clean vehicle full of gas and she was
ready to go.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
And it's little things like that like I talked about
on stage, like I wake up first. I like to
make coffee early for us. And I know what she
she you know, she has sensitive teeth. She doesn't like
to drink hot things. So I know if I make
it early enough, as soon as she gets up, she
can enjoy the coffee, you know, listening to the right
type of music, having the right type of setting in
the house, and those little intentional things that they stack
up over time. It doesn't have to be this like you,
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like you said, this grandiose event. Those are cool to
do occasionally, But when we're talking about life, when we're
talking about the law longevity in the partnership and the relationship,
it's just what can I do on a daily basis
to serve you because I love you and I want
to show you I care, and I do this with
intention and attention and it's felt, you know. It's just
like you can read people's energy, you can feel energy.
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You can feel when you do something little, when it
comes from a space of love.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, and that's it.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I think that's important to distinguish. It's the intention behind it,
because you could say, oh, I know this makes this
person so happy, so I'm just going to do this,
and so they don't like, yeah, like wine trying not
to guess, bitch and moan, like when somebody I'm doing
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this so they don't do X exactly. Is the wrong
way to come to something if it's I'm doing this
because I know it makes them happy, and I know
it's not even something they are asking for. It's just
something that I know would make their life easier. It's
it's that intention. And something else you said is serving. Yeah,
how can I almost serve this person and serve our relationship?
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And that's that third pillar. I'm serving this relationship so
we can make it as strong as it can be.
And it's not necessarily doing it for brownie points.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
And like I mentioned on stage, and we had to
we rust a little bit because I looked at the
clock and when it started, they started it at twenty
eight minutes and.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I was like, oh god, we got to hurry. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
But like with the country dancing, like I know, there
were several guys that I know that were so nervous
about doing that country dancing and they didn't want to
do it. Man, But you know, your wife loves to dance.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
And you don't have to be perfect at it. You
don't even have to be good at it.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
In fact, the more you suck and you just go
out there and play like you're having fun. That's what
my partner wants. She doesn't want me to go out
there and spin around and be you know, like I'm
on Dancing with the Stars. She wants her guy to
show up with full intention and just play. And if
you can allow yourself to be seen oftentimes, especially speaking
to you guys, not as is the masculine man, but
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just be a dude that can't.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I don't know what the hell I'm doing right now.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
I feel like I have three left feet, But I'm
gonna have some fun that is more attractive to her
than if I'm like, I don't dance. Yeah, I'm gonna
do this, but I really don't want to, or you're
out there and you're so nervous you can't allow yourself
to just let go, you know, when you let go
and just be in the moment, like I don't. As
long as I'm with her, I know I'm safe.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I'm gonna have fun.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
And hell, she leads me half the time we dance anyway,
because she's she's such a beautiful dancer. I mean, I'm
pretty damn good too, but she's more technical, so I
know how to I know how to just allow her
to move and I'm like, cool, let's go, man, I'm
flowing with you.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
And that's all we care about.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, just being there, Yeah man, and that's all matters,
like when you're and that's the key, when you're there,
Yes there emotionally.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Well, I like what you said earlier, which was it's
not only about the intention, it's about the attention, right, Yeah.
Paying attention to those small little details and figuring out
those little things that are important will lead you to
living in more intentional life. Right. When you're intentional about
the things that you pay attention to, I think that's
what's really going to lead you down the road a success,
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especially in a relationship.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Yeah, and like what he said with the you know trying,
I don't dance or I don't do this, or I
don't do X fill in the blank. I've met so
many guys who specifically around dancing, who are friends and
people i've dated, dear, but just guys in general. There's
so many blocks of I have to show up in
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a certain way. And that's another thing that we talked about,
is letting go of the mask and removing the mask
that thinking you need to show up in this certain
way in order to be respected, in order to be
seen as better or you know again fill in the blank.
But when you're able to just have fun and be
your complete self with somebody, it's whether it's with your partner,
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your kids, your friends at work. Like, when you are
able to show up in everything of who you are,
that's when things start happening for you. That's when love
can be become so much more full in your life.
And it's it's almost palpable because you're not hiding behind anything.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I love that beautifully said the Masks. I want to
talk that, talk about that a little bit more more
because it's one thing that we've been talking about in
our current group and Group four, that's been our main
focused conversation. But in the relationship, I think it's almost
even more vital to be removing those masks because you
want your partner to see you who you are. Right,
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talk to me a little bit more about you know
what it takes to truly remove those masks.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
No, it takes, it takes safety, It takes feeling comfortable
being open with your partner.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You know, it's scary.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
You know, I'm not I'm kind of overusing the word vulnerable,
be really honest with you, I think if I'm open
with Kirsten, and it is, but it's scary though, you know,
like We've had a couple of conversations where I've come
to hear with some stuff and you know, I was
hoping that I got the response that I did, but
I needed to be able to do that because if
I didn't, I'm wearing this mask of I've got this
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or I'm not going to share this with you because
I want to protect you while I'm wearing this mask of.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Denial.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
And when I can take that off and just be
raw and real with her, she sees me and then
she trusts me more when she knows that I don't
have all my shit together man, and I don't pretend
like I do. And when I can open up about
those things, then then she sees me and then she
trusts me more. So it's really important that, Yeah, you
have to allow yourself to be seen as who you
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are because it's going to come out eventually. Man, when
you're in a relationship with somebody, whether you're dating, then
you get married, like, it's going to come out. And
if you don't allow yourself to take off the mask,
it's it's it's going to fester. It's almost like you know,
when you're angry and you don't let it out, it's
going to show up some way, shape or form. It's
going to come off. It's going to come off between
you two. It's might come out as rage as arguments.
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But also so if you've ever read Body Keeps a Score,
we know that we manifest and we hold things in
our body. If you hold shit in and you're hold
If I'm wearing this mask for however many, however much time,
that can literally manifest into disease in my body.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So then what good am I for my wife? None?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Then she has to take care of me, so you
It is critical that when you start a relationship you
take the mask off, like we literally did it. I mean, hell,
the first night we met, we started just but here
I am, here's me, and that's I feel like that's
what drew us together so fast? Is I mean, I
tell this story, it's so funny. You're like, we knew
each other for like four hours and she was like,
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just so you know, if we do this, I.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Want to get married eventually. Well shit, I'm not even divorced. Shit,
but I liked you a lot and you were like
everything I was looking for.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I was like, okay, well, also, I still love my wife,
my ex wife. I'm not in love with her, but
I always tell our lover, you'll understand if that's a problem,
this isn't going to work. So if I would have
worn that mask of like of like I'm secretly if
I talked to my ex wife, hey, I love you
and she hears me, what.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
The fuck is that?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, you know, I'm like, no, no, I'm gonna get I'm
gonna let you know exactly who I am.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I'm gonna let you know everything about my relationship.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Is that way, there's nothing for me to hide from you,
and it's just been that's one of the things that's
allowed us to just grow so quickly together.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Yeah, it's a transparency.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
And Lauren and Matt talked about this in their stories
when they shared each one of their upbringings and what
had actually happened, and and through that transparency of saying,
you know, here is the full me. Yeah, that you're
not you're not having to hide by any behind anything else.
And we had a in a in a another group
setting that we were at another event and a woman
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said stood up and said, how much should I share
about my past on dates or if people ask? And
we said, share whatever you feel comfortable with, but share openly. Yeah,
Because if you're trying to hide something, and if you're
trying to keep something hidden in your past, but you're
trying to develop a relationship with some of the foundation
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is trust or part of the foundation is trust. And
if somebody can't trust that you're telling that you're not
opening up completely or or not telling them the truth
of something, then that's going to be an an energetic barrier,
whether they know it or not. So it's so important
to have that transparency and when things come up. Hey,
I don't exactly know the solution to this, but this
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is what's happening. Okay, cool, let's figure it out together.
And that way, you guys are creating a solution together
rather than somebody holding back and saying I have to
figure this out alone and then make sure everything's fine,
then bring it to my family or bring it to
my wife. For example, like finances.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, you hear it.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
So often that you know, finances are one of the
biggest things that breaks couples up because they are not
having that conversation of what are we going to do,
how are we going to do this, what does it
look like? Who takes care of? What are we able
to agree on that? And it's usually not usually, but
sometimes one person, if it's you know, if it's a
turbulent time and space in their finances, is trying to
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figure it out without the other person knowing what's actually
going wrong. Yeah, and that energetically you could feel as well,
and you're not showing up to you know, date night,
or you're not showing up for your kids, or you're
not showing up completely as you present because your brain
is leaking energy back here trying to figure out.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
What you're going to do.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yeah, and to the point of being the receiver of
that information, have compassion. Yeah, because like I said before,
like it's it's scary as hell opening up somebody, being
open and being vulnerable enough to share what you're terrified
of that you don't want to, you know, because you're
we're afraid of judgment. That's why we have the mask,
you know. So it's there's nothing she can come to
me and tell me that. I'm gonna be like, why
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didn't you say that before, or judge her about it,
because I know I know what it feels like on
the other end of that to have to open up
about something and it is terrifying. And when she read,
when she receives it with compassion and love, and I
can just see. That's why I said on stage and
I told her about Brute Force. We knew Bruforce are
going to close at some point.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
But when I when I told her that and we
were with that retreat in ConA, and she just looked
at me. She was like, we're going to be okay,
we got this, And I was like, oh my god,
thank you. It was just a thousand pounds lifted off
my body and that's what you need. So from the
receiver's end as well, that it is your job and
your duty to receive that information with love and kindness
and acceptance.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, and for anybody listening to when you do have
something to share, you can preemptively say, hey, this is
this is difficult for me to share, so that other
person listening can you're setting the tone. Yeah, you're setting
the tone. So I need I need your heart right now.
I don't need your fixing. I don't need And we
talked about this. I think a few different speakers spoke.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
On this as well.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
What do you need and what do you need in
that moment. I need you to listen. I need your
heart open. I need you to be non judgmental. I'm yesterday,
I was even talking to him. I just need you
to listen, and I don't need your personspective. Yeah, and
then then we can have a conversation to kind of
help me wrap my mind around this. But all I
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need you to do right now is listen and no perspective.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah. Wow, I love that. And it's funny because I
was going to ask you guys about the opposite side
of or the other side of the mask too, where
how can you show up and help with the other
person remove that? And you guys already answered that, Yeah,
And I think because I think that's so important. I
think it was Stephan Marco when we did the exercise
with the couples, and one of the things that she
had was one person says what they need more of
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from the other person, the other person, you know, sends
it back, right, And so I think that part of
it is so unique where it's like, hey, we're trying
our hardest to be intentional to take these masks off,
but if the other person isn't really respecting that or
giving us the container to allow us to do that,
it's kind of hard to keep being open with it, right,
trying to remove those masks.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
So it takes it definitely takes two to tango. Yeah,
and even initially, I I know that we said removing
it with your partner, but the first step is to
truly be able.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
To see yourself.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
And there's so many people who are ashamed or who
are carrying these self judgments from their past, and until
those are you don't even have to remove them right
away with yourself. It's just starting to work on that
and starting to accept yourself for who you are, because
you know, everybody talks about the importance of self love.
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In my opinion, self acceptance is the first step to
self love, which is one of the steps to removing
those masks. Yeah, it just seemed like I understand that
I did this with whatever tools I had at the time,
and whatever information and knowledge I had at the time,
and I made the best decision I could then, and
I recognize that in myself, and I accept who I
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was then and I accept who I am now, and
now you get to create from there.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah, I love that. There's so much that you guys
can provide. Stop, it's amazing. And you guys do your
relationship emergin retreats, right, that's what they are.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yes, talk to me a little bit more about that.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
So people know, you know, more of what they can
get from you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Love.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Yeah, So it's April seventeenth through the twentieth. Yeah, we're
going to be in big Bear and that is whether
you're in a relationship or not. We're going deep into
the self, which, obviously, like I said before, the self
is the critical point, and then building that into how
you're connecting in your relationship and what does that look
like in the steps to take you there. So a
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lot of it is going to be experiential, a lot
of it. We have really fun things planned outdoor activities planned,
but then also a lot of internal We're going to
go or do breathwork, ropes, course, we're going to be
out in these beautiful mountains, cold plunge. So it's incorporating
all the different aspects of what the human needs individually
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and then what the relationship needs.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
That goes into what she was talking about at the
Conference of the Three Pillars exactly. You know, it's the
it's it's me her and then us together. So it'll
be beautiful because there will be a point where I'll take
the men, she takes the ladies. Then we come back
together and we we converse, and then we'll switch. I'll
take the ladies, She'll take the men. That way we get,
we get the both and the different perspectives.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
That's awesome And Big Bear is a beautiful place to that.
Big Bear is one of my.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Favorite Yeah sports, I've never been there yet.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, Like Big Bear is up there with Park City
for me.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I love them so much. Yeah, and this is beautiful space. Man.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Her good friend is that she is a wedding planner
reading cordner, Yeah, read reading wedding retreat planner, and this
is the beautiful space. And they were they were they
used to hold weddings of this resort in the in
the summertime and they wanted to transition into more of
a retreat space, so they offered it to us.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
And it's it's just it's incredible. Men, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
And Kirsten, I want to ask you, because you know
you moved out here, you're part of this community. Now,
I know you've got a lot more going on with
your coaching, your classes. I want you to describe a
little bit more of what that looks like.
Speaker 5 (43:57):
Sure, yeah, I have something that I'm in the next
two months. It's called School of Badass or for women
specifically to remember who they are and really, like we're
talking about, take off the masks and figure out who
they are at the very core so they can show
up for themselves, their partner, their family. There's so much incorporated.
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It's almost like a holistic way of looking at this self.
So what aren't you following through on? What can you
do in preparedness for yourself, a lot of embodiment, a
lot of mental fortitude, but then also finding this this
grace along with your grit of how you can show
up and just be whatever badass means to you. And
(44:42):
it's like fem fetal type character. You know that you
get to show up as like the most coolest human
you can be for yourself and others.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
I mean, I've been watching her work on this for
the last few months and it's absolutely incredible. Like the attention,
the detail, the death of what she goes to program
these things out is like it's it's the highest professional
grade that I've ever watched in by work under.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I mean, it's just beautiful.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
It's in So any woman that's listening to just you
do yourself a service and look into this group because
she has put a lot into it and it's going
to serve a lot of humans.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
And if you're a w guy listening out there, share
that's with your wife, yes, because I'm sure there's a
lot of white Wak guys who know MO and basically
anything that most as we go with uh and so yeah,
listen to this. Go follow up where can they what's
the best way of them reaching out? They're interested?
Speaker 5 (45:38):
So if they're interest interested, Instagram is a great place.
My call sign, your handle, my handle pilot right now.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I kind of want to be I just want to
have the title.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Yes, is Kirsten dot Asher dot brosett and you can
just send me a message there. The website is School
of badassree dot com.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Perfect And if they want to reach out for the
relationship commversion, what's the best place for that too?
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Same they can contact us through Instagram. They can look
on both of our links are and our bio for
the registration and all the information about the retreats there
love them.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
What's the name of the app? I forgot to ask
you about your app?
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Oh yeah, it's so when you look at it, it's
it's ever Fit, but it's it's stay Ready. That's my
that's my mottol. That's how it trains so I live
and that's how I coach people.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Yeah, they'll get the app. I downloaded it for the
first week for Masogi training. Yeah, it's gonna be exciting Masogi.
If you guys are listening to this on Thursday, all
of us are probably flying out there. So there might
be a few good group for you guys listen to
us on the flight. So yeah, if you guys are listening,
we're ready excited for it. It's gonna be fun. Thank
you guys for coming on the podcast. We always end
(46:47):
this we O the Day podcast, which is given love
giving a shout out to someone first person that comes
to your mind. Kirsten, do you have someone?
Speaker 5 (46:54):
Yes, Jacob, Jacob. We just want to say that our
hearts are with you. I know that this is a
difficult time and just know how thought about and how
loved you are, and how wanted you are, how much
impact you've made. And I know Mo has so much
more to say, but even just meeting you for the
(47:16):
short times that I have you definitely leave a big impact.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
Yeah, Jacob, his soul is so pure. Just every conversation
I have with that man is just so wonderful. Like
I love his gratitudes, I love his intention, I love
the depth, I love his growth, and you.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Know my heart is just broken for him right now.
It's just yeah, but I love you man.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, I'll give love to Jacob too, said up a
Law of Tax message last night. But can never give
enough love in these situations. So Jacob, you're incredible. The
man that you are developing yourself into and becoming and
will continue to progress towards is something admirable. So we
love you. Just wanted to give you all, just want
(47:59):
to give you a shout out before we end this podcast.
So thank you guys for coming on. We appreciate it.
We'll see you guys later. Thank you, thank you, thank
you for listening to another episode of the We Are
the Day podcast. If you want to join this incredible community,
this incredible brotherhood of men, you can go on Instagram
at mister Jimmy Rex or at watmovement dot com. Click
(48:19):
the link of the bio you can join the tribe.
To tribe is open right now. Directly through there, you
could also go to join Watt dot com that is
j O I N W A T T dot com.
You could also go to watvid dot com w A
T T v I D dot com to go watch
the We Are the They documentary as well. If you
have any other questions, feel free and reach out to
(48:40):
Jimmy directly or hit us up on Instagram. Thank you
again for listening to the podcast. And it is that
time once again for me to bid you.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
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