May 22, 2025 • 51 mins
Today on the podcast we are joined by Brian Smith from leadership group 6. Brian is an awesome man and we get into deep discussions around the ludus', religion, and a whole lot more. Enjoy this episode with Brian and as always, don't hesitate to reach out to him directly and get to know another member of this amazing brotherhood.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to the We Are the Day Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am your host, Jimmy Rex, the founder and CEO
of We Are the They, and this podcast has been
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(00:27):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
And with that, let's get to today's episode. All right,
welcome back to the We Are the Day Podcast. Today
we are joined by Brian Smith from Group six. Brian,
how you.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Doing doing well? Man? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm doing good? Good? You know. Second one of the day.
I was cranking out a couple of podcasts every day,
just grinding over there, bro, Yeah exactly. I got one
later tonight too, So that one's different though. That was
just talking about sports. That easy. That's easy, right, that's light. Yeah,
all I can talk about sports for five hours every day,
I'd be perfectly fine. So well, thank you Brian for
coming on the podcast. Asked, I think you were actually
(01:01):
supposed to come on with Parker, right, Yeah, I was
a month ago or so.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, Like work just got in the way.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I couldn't make it down. But Parker was like, such
a good dude. It's such a good dude. I'm sure
you've you know, you know, you had an hour at least,
if not more with him.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I've had more with Parker. I loved such a good dude,
such a good love that guy. I it was it
was fun to have Parker on because it was like
Parker he o says this. I think he says he's
the second most connected person in the community behind me,
just because I host the podcast. And I'm like, dude,
I don't know, I feel like you might be more.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I mean, I don't know who I put some money on.
It's either you or him, for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's it's pretty close between Them's.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Very a very social dude, and it's like it's who
he is.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Just an incredible guy that way. Yeah, well, Brian, let's
get into it true what podcast fashion. We have to
start off with your story, how you found out about
what and then why you decided to join.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, so I mean, I guess I kind of knew
who Jimmy Rex was at a certain point, you know,
like a few years ago, just kind of heard the
name and didn't really think.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Much of it.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
But I ended up dating a girl who knew Jimmy
and this last like I guess it was May so
ten months ago, she was like, hey, you should look
into joining we are the day and I was like, oh, okay,
Like I didn't, I had no idea what men's groups
were or you know, like anything.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I was like, okay, whatever, And so I kind of looked.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Into it, and I'm I was too far behind the deadline,
and I think applications for the program weren't really for
Group five. For Group five weren't open, like they were closed.
So I was just like, okay, whatever, and it was
just in the back of my mind.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And then.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Fast forward, you know, five months or so, because I
think Jimmy opens it every six months, or at least
he has historically. And at that point, like I was,
I was going through some things like personally and mentally,
it was it was a rough time. And randomly enough,
I think, you know Danan Lake, he's in your during
group four, right, he just reached out to me, like
we went to high school together, Dan and I did,
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and I mean we were kind of friends, weren't We
didn't hang out on the weekends.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
But we played sports together, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And he kind of just randomly reached out to me
and he's like, hey, dude, like I joined this group.
It's really great, and I think you should look into it.
And as he kind of sent me the link, I
was able to connect or connect the dots between what
he was sending me and what this girl that I
was dating was telling me to.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Do, right, And so I looked into it and I
was like, it's.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Just not my thing, Like I'm I'm I don't want
to do it. I just don't.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
And I was back and forth probably for like five
or six weeks, honestly, just like this battle inside my head,
just like do I really want to do this? Do
I Is it really going to be worth the you know,
the investment? Am I going to really benefit from this?
And I just I couldn't shake it. I could not
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be like cause like I would be like, you know what,
I'm done, Yeah, I don't want to do this, like
it's not me. But then it would just come back.
It would come back, and then Dan would call me,
he'd face time, he would Marco pull on me, and
we had all these conversations and he was like, let
me have Jimmy reach out to you personally. So Jimmy
tried to reach out, and I'll be honest, Jimmy, I'm sorry,
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but I screened your calls like two or three times
because I was like, dude, I don't want to talk
to this guy, like he's just gonna.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Sell me, Like come on.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
But anyway, like I finally answered one of his calls
and we had a good conversation and then I was
on the fence and didn't commit.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
He called me a week later, and it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Was actually really crazy because he called me. We had
a good conversation and I was like yep, like I
need to do it, Like on the phone, I was like,
I'll do it tonight, I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, I'll sign up.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
And then that night I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I have my kids and so it was just chaotic
night as most school nights are with my kids. And
that night I had a dream and the dream like
this is kind of crazy, Like the dream was like
you have to join we are the day you have
to wow, and so I kid you not. It was
like two thirty in the morning. I wake up, wide awake,
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get on my phone, sign.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Up right then. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
And that was probably like I don't know, maybe a
week and a half, two weeks before first loutis Yeah,
and here we are, and it was I mean, it's
only been three or four months, but it was one
of the best decisions I've ever made.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, I think your guys group is unique in that
way where it's like you made the decision. You guys
went straight to mo.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
App Oh yeah, yeah, because I think if I remember correctly,
most of the groups, like you had like a three
month kind of just calls and you didn't really get
to know the guys, and.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Our group had three months. Some of the other groups
a lot shorter real Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
But yeah, I mean it was great, Like I mean
we had one call before, yeah, you know, we did
the tribe call and then we did their group call
and then next thing we know, we're in.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
We're there just grinding out.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Just getting thrown into the experience.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It was. It was incredible.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, I think that's super cool. Like I said, with
Group six, where it's like you guys just signed up
and got to be a part of it right away.
Talk to me about that experience of going into moapp
with you know, you had a dream that said hey,
I got to join this, yeah, and now you're just
thrust in that position. What was your mindset going into
it and saying, hey, I got to be a part
of this, I got to do this, Like how do
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you throw yourself into that situation?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
And it was it was tough to be honest, like
my biggest hesitation and this goes back to, you know, my.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Childhood, my upbringing, really my whole life.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
But I just I've never felt worthy of love or
worthy of success. Yeah, and one of the one of
the components of that is like my profession, my career, right,
like how successful I am financially all those types of things.
And the reason why I don't like these types of
like I guess Jimmy's group is very, very different. But
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of course, you know, if you think of like a
men's group, you typically go to like networking and who
has the most this and who's done the biggest thing
here and all that kind of thing, And that just
doesn't it well with me because of my up career,
not that I haven't accomplished things, but I think i've
I feel like I should have done more. And so
going into it, I was I was very like I was.
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I was super anxious, Like I was like, dude, do
I just bell Like I just not go? And then we,
you know, we carpooled down and with three other dudes
that are super super solid dudes, love all three of them,
but like even still like the first you know, I mean,
I guess from from here, it's like what three hours
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to Moab or.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So it's a pretty good drive, right, And so I
was just kind of like, who are these guys? Like
what do I have to offer?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
You know?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And they're telling me about their careers and what they're
doing and all these things, and I just felt so
like honestly like insecure. It was like, and this was
something I brought up to Jimmy. I was like, I
don't know if I have anything to offer. I know,
there's only you know, a certain number of spots that
are available for this group. Like I don't want to
be they do that's super selfish and just takes and
(08:03):
takes and takes but doesn't have anything to give. Yeah,
And so I was very skeptical and very reserved, you know,
on the on the drive down. But as we got
into it, like it was like Jimmy did such a
good job at creating a safe container where it was
and setting the expectation that like, hey, this isn't the
who's hopefully I can say this, whose.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Dick is the biggest? Right? Like it's like, that's not
what A mean.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Like we're not trying to one up each other, Like
we're honestly here to grow and to become the best
versions of ourself. And it was very apparent that first night,
that first Thursday, that that's what this was about. Yeah,
And at that point my whole mindset shifted and I
was like, dude, I'm I'm in, Like let's let's go.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, that's the best part about that Thursday. Anyone who's
gone through Moab knows what that Thursday is, and it's
the Badass List.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, it is getting rid of the imposter syndrome, exactly
everything that you felt on the car drive there, saying
I don't know what I have to offer you break
that wall down the first night you are there, you
do because I think that's probably I think Jimmy and
most people in the group would probably say this, that's
probably the number one thing that people go in there
with that insecurity of do I belong here? Yeah, and
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you break that down immediately and you do the badass
list and you say, yes, I belong here exactly. So
I think that's super powerful.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, No, I loved it. It was such a cool experience.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
And then I mean kind of just piggybacking off of
of that first loutis like I don't know what he
calls it, but the step in the circle exercise, those
that have been there nowhere exercise.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It was so powerful for me.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Caused me to like really search deep into who I
am and how I feel about myself. And the takeaway
from that was incredible, and it was the fact that
like number one.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You are worthy.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah right, I never felt worthy in my entire life,
but you are worthy. You're worthy of whatever you want,
and you're worthy of life exactly. And it doesn't matter
what's gone on, doesn't matter what's happened you know prior
to this.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You are worthy. You are enough how.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You are and who you are right now.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And that was I mean, if that was it, if
that was the only takeaway I ever got from joining
wha it would be worth.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
It, exactly be worth it. Yeah, that's kind of how
a lot of people feel. Yeah, you get kind of
that one thing and you're like, that's it. Uh huh,
that's where it clicks.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I think MOAB is probably a lot of.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
People's I think so, dude.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I think a lot of us that join this group
like whether we know deep down or we're kind of
suppressing it, like we're we're kind of struggling a little
bit with a lot of things, you know, and it
takes an environment, a container, a safe space like that
to really let your guard down and to do that
inward soul searching to allow you to kind of know,
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you know where I am, who I am, what do
I need to do?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Carrying that momentum from Ab, obviously you go three months,
you know, you're part of the calls, you're getting more
connected to the brothers, you're kind of feeling that out.
Let me ask you this, how was that first three
months for Group six, that first three months of like, hey,
mo AB's done, now it's just time for us to
connect and grow. How was that kind of going your
guys as separate ways and just kind of developing those
relationships on your own.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, And maybe this is more you know, my perception
versus the entire group, but I feel like there have
been enough things that have been said that we kind
of struggled a little bit honestly, Like you know, like
the I'm assuming most groups have a Marco Polo channel
or threat or whatever you want to call it. Right, Like,
we got called out multiple times by mo and by
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Jimmy that we're not active enough on there.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
We're not, you know, like, and.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
So I think like it was really really great to
connect and be in person super quickly into the program. Yeah,
but it was like and for me when I came
home from Moab, I was like mentally an emotional just
drained right to take that Monday off, like damn, dude,
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like I need to just chill for a minute.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's a lot.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And I think kind of like and we had your
accountability partners and you send your gratitude lists and the
weekly calls.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But I feel like we kind of.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Again this is just my perspective of the group, like
we didn't really have that connection, Like we connected, yeah
in Moab, but then we kind of just let it
fizzle a little bit. But our second lootist was just
a couple of weeks ago down in Saint George or
Pine Valley, and I feel like that three days was incredible,
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Like the connection, the emotional tie have to all these
dudes was I mean astronomical compared to where it was
when we left Molab, Right.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's why, Like, it's why I
set up the question that way, because you guys just
got back from your second lootist, and anyone who's gone
from the first loose of the second lootis probably feels
that exact same way.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I know, our group was terrible, that really terrible on
that first months, and Jimmy has openly kind of came
out and said like he kind of scared us straight
in a way of not trying to get together too much. Yeah,
and he regrets that a little bit, but it was
kind of all resolved at that second Loutis where it
was like, all right, here's the connection, right, here's how
we lift each other up, literally literally lifting each other
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up with the rock exercise.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
That would exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, So talk to me about that second Loutis because
you guys just got back from that about two weeks
ago or so, But you talked about how much that
strength of the connection, how important has that been for
you as a group, at least in your experience on
just saying hey, we're here together. We still have eighteen
more months of this, right, something like that at this
point for you guys, So how do you come out
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of that and say, hey, we still got eighteen months
of this, let's grow, let's continue to grind, and let's
figure this out and be more connected.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, Now, I mean that Friday morning exercise where you
kind of go on the hike mo leads it, you
pick up a rock, you're carrying different people in your group,
Like that was very telling.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
That was very inspiring.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I guess I should say for me about you know,
it didn't matter that you know, we were in groups
of six and there's fifty people, so clearly you're you're
not experienced this with everybody, but of course we're all
there together, and so it wouldn't matter if you replaced
any of the other five guys in my group with
any of the other forty four people, Like I would
have felt the same way. But it's like I would
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do anything for these guys, right, I would do anything
to not be a liability to be able to help
and to lift them up to support, to inspire, and
that was that was a really really cool experience for me.
And you know that, even though it was just the
five guys plus myself in that group, I felt like
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collectively I felt more drawn and close to the to
everybody just by that exercise, right, Yeah, And you could
kind of see the group in front of you, you
could hear the group behind you as you're like hiking
up this trail and you're carrying the heaviest two dude
UDEs and all these like it's it's a crazy thing,
it is, right, but like you can you can understand,
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like you know, we're all in this together. Yeah, you know,
we have different backgrounds, different paths, it doesn't matter, you
know what that is. We're here for one purpose and
that's to connect and to grow exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And I love that.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And then we got back. We did the ice bath,
which was cool. I mean, I guess no punitent it was.
It was freezing, yes, of course, But but then we
had a lot of great conversation and one like I
we talked a lot about the father wound, and I
didn't feel like I had anything like the first two days,
I was just like like okay, like I must have
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a great.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Relationship with my dad, you know. But then.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Saturday there was an exercise where we had to write
a letter to our dad and I can't even remember
what we were supposed to tell him. All I remember
is like everything just unloaded, Like it was just like
floodgates were open.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I was just I was, I was feeling a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, And it was a it was a It was
a really great opportunity for me to do some soul searching,
right to reflect, because I think for so long, like
not only with you know, father wound, but with a
lot of things like I just deflect, like I just
shove it under the rug. But this gave me an
opportunity to really sit in it and fill it and appreciate.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And then you know, like I had, I had.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I had a pretty big breakthrough. Honestly, like.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
We did, I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
You probably did the fire. So did you guys not
do the fire? Our group has not done the Saint
George Luis.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Oh you haven't.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You guys just did a second Okay, okay, we we
did a second. Lootus a little bit differently. At Eagle Mountain,
it was just kind of a test run, I guess
more or less, it didn't really work out very well,
so ours was a little bit different. But we did
do we did do the rock exercise and then wed
a couple others.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
So well, the end of this, like the last night
we had this exercise where we're all just kind of
stood around this fire. Yeah, and it was you know
that there are many different things that people talked about,
but for me, it was kind of letting go and
accepting the fact that I for so long felt that
I'm unworthy of love and success and the life that
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I want. And I made some connections on where that
was coming from. A lot of it had to do
with my upbringing, how to do with the religion that
I was brought up in, trying to please other people,
Like there was a lot, you know, and it was
cool to kind of stand around the fire and just
share a quick little recap of my story and where
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like connecting the dots from this is my childhood, this
is my adolescence, this is my young adult life, this
is where I've gotten and this is why I feel
the way that I feel and now being able to
do something about it right, be able to to understand
that and then take the necessary steps to heal and
to become, you know, truly authentic to who I am
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and who I want to be.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, I love that. I think it's super special that
the first lootis you really start to break through a
lot of those walls for yourself, and then once the
connection builds, it really starts to open up the flood gates, right. Yeah. Yeah,
it's almost like that first lootus you're kind of you know,
breaking through the exterior, You're kind of cracking it everything
(18:34):
slowly but surely. And that second lootis once the connections
start to come through, that's what really allows the floodgates
to open.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Because you're with people that you love and care about,
who you know love and care about you, and it
just gives you that even more like it's just it's
I don't want to say vulnerable state, but it allows
you to be in that mod exactly. It allows you
to be in that space more and in that mindset
of just being like, hey, I can be open, I
can my experiences, I can share what I'm struggling with,
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and I can present that to the other people around me,
and they'll be able to support me how I need
to be supported.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Sure, So I love that. Yeah, no, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I remember the first lootis like you're always sizing everybody up,
you know, I'm sure everybody does the same thing, like, oh,
this guy's kind of a dick, or this guy might
be like whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Sure a lot of people thought I was a dick.
I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But like one one dude that.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We talked about, Parker earlier, like before I met him before,
we're just the you know, a couple hours. You get there,
you check in before dinner, and everything starts like you're
I was looking at him.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I'm like, okay, this guy, he and I might not
get along. We just might not vibe right.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
And then for whatever reason, you create your bad badass list,
and then you break into smaller groups and you read
your badass lists and everybody cheers you on.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And so he was in my group. I was like, okay,
cool whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You know, like all right, this guy, this guy exactly Parker.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I love you.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
But we were going downstairs the stairs, and I was
like walking down the this you know, the couple half stairs,
I don't know how to explain that. He was kind
of at like the landing in between the two staircases
and you could just I could just see he was struggling,
like he was. I was like, Okay, maybe I prematurely
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judge this guy, Like maybe I need to just chill.
And then we got into the exercise and then we
got into the rest of the weekend, and it's like,
Parker's probably the coolest guy I know, Like I love
that guy. And I think to your point going back
to the vulnerability is like a lot of times we
have our guard up and we can't put those walls
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down because we're scared of you know, judgment or reprimmendation.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Or whatever it is exactly.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
And you know, like the second lootis you're like, okay,
like we're all we're all g's, Like we're all homies.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
This is great. It doesn't matter. Like they're gonna be
as vulnerable as I want.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
And I know that there's going to be no judgment,
there's going to be no shame, there's gonna be no
you know, looking down or finger pointing, because we're all there,
we've all been through it, you know, to one degree
or another.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Exactly. I think it's it is special, right, like being
able to just see those connections forming and seeing them
just fester and bond and figure out what figure out
what relationships are going to work for you in different
ways too, write like shout out Dan Lake or we're
just shouting out the same like two people on the podcastlessly,
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but like Dan Lake and I have such a great
relationship of just being able to reach out at the
perfect exact times, kind of like you did with you. Right,
It's one of the gifts that both of us have
gotten in this life, which is we know when to
reach out. Sure, we know how to reach out. Yeah,
I think it's something special that you know, we have
had that connection in that way and we've been able
(21:57):
to develop that into so many more things. I think
that's super cool. And you just get to see that
through these lyticism You just get to see that progression.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
So I'm sure, like to your point, progression.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
It's snowballs, right, it's probably exponentially so. Right, here's the
first one, second one, by the third, fourth, eighth one.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
You guys are just like vibing. You guys are family.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Right like you one hundred percent love like we talked
a lot about the three AM friend, you know, and
it's like, yeah, like I would, you know, go to
bat for any of these guys.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, you know, you call me, you text me, you
need me, I'm there, Yeah, you know, And that's really
really cool.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, there's a lot of power in that because I think, like,
as men, a lot of times we put on this
facade of like having to be stoic and not vulnerable,
and we have to just have a stiff upper lip,
which I think in a lot of cases is true. Right, Like,
as men, you have to do that, But there's also
the other side of us that we do feel, we
do have emotion, you know, and tapping into the feminine
(22:55):
energy that we all have, right like, and being in
a group of very successful and powerful men, but creating
a space where you can be vulnerable and you can
feel and express emotion.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I think that's so powerful. Yeah, percent agree. I love that.
I want to dive a little bit more into detail
on one thing that you talked about, which is kind
of the religion aspect and coming from the church. We
were talking about this beforehand, but I'll preface this by
saying that you know we are the day is a.
(23:32):
It's a nationwide community and people all across the country.
I know there's people all across the country in your group,
people all across the country. In our group, there's people
all across the country. And the tribe's it's all over
the place. But there is something about this hub in
Utah and kind of the culture of Utah and what
Utah brings with the Church of Jesus Christ, flattery Saints,
and how a lot of people grow up in that.
(23:52):
I know that your story kind of evolves similar around that,
but I'm curious your thoughts on you know, you you
have since left the church, correct, Correct, And so I
think there's a good amount of people who have since
left the church, not just because and I mean not
because of what right some people lead before then some
people you know, discover during it is what it is. Yeah,
(24:13):
But it goes back to one thing that Connor Delann
talked about on this podcast, which is I don't know
if what is the one thing that I can say
is the catalyst for a lot of this in my life,
but it's definitely a part of it. And so I
think coming back to the church side of things, I
think what is definitely something that people look at and
they go, hey, I need to rediscover this about myself.
I need to rediscover that about myself. Yeah, I'm curious
(24:35):
your thoughts on the you know, LDS influence within what
and the fact that we are in Utah there are
so many people who are either current members ex members
still figuring that out. I'm curious your thoughts on where
the church kind of belongs in a community like this,
and and just the relationship to a higher power in general.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, let me share my story, my story, and then
we can get into that. Said well, I mean, I
grew up in a very loving home. My mom and
dad were great, love them still to this day. But
there was a very high expectation of you live this religion,
like there was no alternative, and you did everything. We
(25:20):
were all in right, And from a very very young age,
I felt like it didn't connect with me. And I
didn't realize it at the time, like as early as ten,
right like or twelve, Like I didn't want to read
my scriptures, I didn't want to go to seminary, I
didn't want.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
To do any of these things. Like it just didn't
sit with me.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Of course, however, there was this and like I said,
I didn't realize it at the time. I didn't know
the feelings that are feeling I was feeling they and
and that didn't resonate with me. I think that's the
big thing I've been able to kind of uncover, is
that at that time, like it's like even today, where
it doesn't resonate with me feeling those same feelings at
(26:01):
a you know, super young age ten, eleven, twelve, but
I didn't know how to handle those. I wasn't emotionally
aware enough or intelligent enough to know what are these
feelings saying? Plus I had this influence from my parents
where it was and the greater community, right, Like I
grew up in.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
A small town.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I grew up in Delta, Utah, where I would guess
ninety five percent of the population is.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You know, lds.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's kind of just what you grow up.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
And so if you kind of just don't know anything else, right,
and so like you start to question as like Okay,
maybe I don't want to do this, but.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Then there's all this outside influence.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
It's like, well, if you question or if you don't
want to do it, or you do this or this
or that, like something's wrong with you, You're not worthy.
And so for a long time, you know, most of
my childhood I was I was in that dilemma of like,
I don't want to do this, but I feel like
I have to exact, Like I don't have any other choice.
(26:56):
And so I wasn't living authentically to who I was.
And I mean most I would assume most teenagers probably
don't even know what living authentically means.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Or how you do that.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
It's all just a circumstance or it's all just an
influence of your circumstances, right, Yeah, And so anyway, I'll
try to keep this brief. So I was just fighting
that constantly. I was a good kid, you know, listen
to my parents, but deep down I was like, I
don't want to do this. I don't want to go
to church, I don't want to descemer, I don't want
to do any of things. Yeah, And I graduated high
(27:30):
school and four days later I moved from Delta to
Cedar City, Utah to play American Legion baseball, and I
got my own apartment. I had a couple of roommates,
and at that point that was the first time in
my life where I felt liberated. Right like where I
was just like I didn't have my parents, I didn't
have the religion. I could do whatever. If I wanted
(27:50):
to go to church, I'd go to church exactly. If
I never wanted to step foot in that building again,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I was just going to do what I felt was
right for me in that moment.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And it was such a great It was like, you know,
four well probably five six months, Like I played summer ball,
then I was going to I had a scholarship at
SUU to play baseball and so start a fall ball
and I was just thriving, like socially, mentally, emotionally, like
I was just in such a great spot. And then,
(28:24):
you know, probably midway through October, I got an eight
page letter from my dad about like basically guilty me
into going on a mission. Wow, just saying, you know
this is what you need to do, you know this
is what is right, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah,
And so at that point, like my goal was.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
To play professional baseball.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
And I feel like at that time, had I stayed
on my trajectory, had I been authentic to what I wanted,
I could have done that like honestly, I could have
and a lot of people will say that or people
will listen and roll their eyes, but like because everybody's
like I could have done this, could have done that,
but like legitimately, like I was, I was a late
bloomer and so like I was super good in high school,
(29:09):
but then I started to get muscle, I started to mature,
grew get stronger, and that just you know, canapulded my
success on the baseball field. Yeah, but anyway, I it
kind of like this, after reading this letter, it tied
back into my you know, this this inner childhood wound
that I wasn't worthy enough unless I did this exactly.
(29:32):
So I decided to go on a mission and came
back and baseball didn't pan out. And then kind of
just similar things like I you know, met my ex
wife and she was she kind of said like, hey,
if you don't do these things, meaning live in accordance
with the standards or the expectations of the LEDs Church,
(29:53):
like you can't date. And so I was like, okay,
like whatever, I'll I'll conform basically, I'll do it. And
so I did that for you know, twelve thirteen years
and eventually I was just like, I can't do this anymore,
Like it's just not who I am. Like I got
into depression. I got into I was to the point.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Where I was I was suicidal, like I had a
note written.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I was ready to just check out one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
But then I kind of realized, like, hey, religion doesn't
define me, and my worthiness isn't tied I say this,
like I knew that.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
How do I say this?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Like logically it said, my worthiness isn't tied to what
I do, Like I'm worthy regardless of whatever happens in
my life, the choices I make, et cetera. So logically
I knew that, and that's kind of what catapulted me
to distancing myself from the church.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, but it's taken me.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You know, that's been over six years ago, and it's
taken me a long time to kind of like connect
the emotional and the logical right like truly believe, Yeah,
you are worthy.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
It doesn't matter exactly. And so that that's kind of
my experience with the church.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
And I you know, I look at our group and
I can just speak from that experience, and there's I mean,
we're probably fifty to fifty in terms of people that
are LDS and those that aren't.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And I think it's great, Like I think if it
serves you perfectly, like do it, go for it. And
it goes back to exactly what you said, where like
you didn't feel like you were living you're authentic y
right exactly, And I think that no matter what you
believe in, if you're living your authentic life, that's the
thing that's really exactly there exactly. Whether it's you know,
(31:44):
whether it's the LDS religion, whether it's you know, whatever, whatever,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Like if you're being authentic to who you are and
how you feel and you're living that life or you're
living your life to that standard and that you're trying
to reach your potential, I think you're great.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, I think that's all that you can do. And
I think what's interesting for me is like I look
at my family and I'm the only one that's not.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Still active in the LDS church, right, Yeah, they're all
very very active and it serves them. They love it,
like they thrive, and I'm great, I'm happy for them,
Like I don't you know, I'm not going to argue
with them. I'm not going to say you're wrong, I'm right,
like whatever, Like, if that serves you and that causes
you to feel you know enough, or feel worthy or
have purpose or whatever, it is, great, go for it. Yeah,
(32:32):
but then also allow me to have the same flexibility
and freedom to do what I feel like is going
to give me those same things. Yeah, and just because
it's not we're not congruent, doesn't mean that I'm right
or you're wrong or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, And that point is so crucial, And I think
that point actually ties in a lot to want in general,
which is like a lot of people look at it
from the outside and you're like you're in a men's group,
Like what is that doing for you? Like what's the purpose?
Then I don't understand what that is. Right, you're paying
for your friends, Like is that what you're doing here?
Like it serves me, right, it serves everybody in this group.
(33:10):
So do whatever works' serving you? Yeah, I agree one
hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
You know, whether it's religion, whether it's relationships, whether it's
your job, hobbies, Like, if it doesn't serve you, like
life's so short and so precious exactly that we don't
have time to kind of dick around, you know. Yeah,
like you like, I wasted a lot of my life,
you know, and I look back on my life and
I love it, you know, like it was. It is
(33:35):
who I am, and it's helped me get to where
I am now and the person that I am. But it, yeah, it,
I don't know, like it. If it doesn't serve you,
then you shouldn't be doing it. And I'm a I'm
a one hundred percent advocate of that.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, I love that. Do you think that's been your
biggest takeaway from what you've learned so far throughout this
journey is how what serves you the most? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I think so, I think, and I think like the
reason why it resonates with me is because I was
I was in a dark spot, bro like the whole
you know, growing up feeling that way, going on a mission,
not being able to almost sacrificing my my dreams for
someone else or for something else, the church, a mission,
et cetera, exactly that, and that was hard because growing up,
(34:21):
like my identity was on tied to being a baseball player. Yeah,
It's like, I don't it doesn't matter what else, I'm
a baseball player, and that didn't pan out right, and
then you know, growing continuing my time in the church
and living the standards and doing all the things the
requirements like it, it just wasn't who I was. And
(34:44):
it just felt like this every single day there was
just more and more pressure and weight on my shoulders
of feeling like I'm not good enough, Like why why
why don't.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I enjoy this?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
If this is what I'm supposed to be doing, how
come I don't find joy? How come doing all the
things that you know, living the standards, serving in your callings,
doing whatever it is?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Like, I just didn't.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Feel good, Like it didn't help me, you know. And
because of that, and then and I think too like
so like again it's all going back to authenticity, right,
Like I wasn't being authentic to who I was.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
And then I was married to a.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Famous influencer, and everything that we posted, everything that we
put out on our social media or her social media
was it was fabricated, bro Like, it wasn't real, Like
behind every single picture or story or video, like it
looked like we had this picture perfect family, right, but
(35:46):
we didn't. Like bed I bet you I could go
back through every single post and remember Okay, this is
what happened here.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
This kid was crying.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
We were screaming about this, we were fighting about that,
Like it just wasn't authentic, it wasn't real, and all
those things kind of just like led me, you know,
being in that state of inauthent in authority is that
the right word, or unauthority whatever, not being auth this
like that, not living true to who I was, Like
that took a huge toll on my mental health.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, and I was, Yeah, I mean it does for
most people. And I think that's one of the things
that I'm.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Very passionate about and I want to create awareness around,
is your mental health is directly related to who you
are and your ability to either live to that or
feel like you have to live and be something different.
And for me, like I got to a point where
I was I was ready to check out one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, I had a note, I had a plan, I
had a day, like everything I was ready to be done.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
And I attribute that all back to not being authentic,
to not being who I was, not living true to myself,
not listening to what you know, my my inner thoughts
and cares and all the things that were trying to
tell me this is who you are and this is
what you need to do. But then feeling, you know,
(37:12):
like feeling a sense of on acceptance or on being
unlovable because I didn't align with what I was taught
or with what the mainstream expectations were exactly.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
If that makes sense and it resonates with me, I'll
share a little bit about my story. One of the
things that I've dealt with was I had always dealt
with anxiety, and depression kind of popped its head in
different ways. Yeah, one of the things that I dealt
with was being in a sales role. I felt like
(37:49):
I had to put on a completely different personality to
overcome my anxiety, which then translated into everything else in
my life. Sure, right, And so I was probably working
that job for two and a half years, and I
realized one day that it was basically my entire personality.
My personality was a salesman. I was just trying to
get my way anyway I could, right. I think a
(38:11):
lot of salespeople relate to this. So that all being said, basically,
what HA ended up happening was I was bedridden for
like three months because I couldn't look myself in the
mirror because I didn't know who I was. And it's
that exact same thing, right, I had become a person
completely different to my authentic self, and I struggled with
(38:31):
dealing with that and literally living with that. Like I
I would get on my bed, I would go to work,
I would come home, and I would be in bed.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I didn't I want to see friends. I didn't I
see a family. I didn't want to do. I didn't
want to see anyone because I didn't want them to
see me for someone that I wasn't. But I also
didn't know who I actually was, and so it was
this constant battle back and forth of how do you
figure out who you are but also try and show people.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Who you are exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I think that's one thing that this group does really well. Yeah,
it allows you a space, a safe container for you
to figure out who you are, and it provides a
great community to then show who you.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Are to exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I was just gonna say that, Yeah, you're able to
come and there, you let all your.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Guards down exactly, be.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Authentic, exactly who you are, and there's no judgment, right
because all of like what's crazy is like all of
us in our group are that same way. Like I
would bet that most of us came in with some
sort of imposter syndrome or you know, reservation or we're
not going to be vulnerable like whatever. Right, But now
(39:39):
it's like we're all in this, we understand, we're all
in the same boat. And I think it's kind of
like a microcosm of society. I think most people you
know are like they have this this shell, these these
masks that we wear, right because we were scared or
(39:59):
we're of what people are going to think or maybe
what we want to do or who we truly are
maybe not may not fit with the mainstream media or
what's acceptable or whatever. Yeah, and that could be like
there's a spectrum on that too, right, Like it could
be very severe, it could be little.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
It could be not too big of a deal at all.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
But end of the day, like we're not being true
to ourselves, we're not doing the things that serve us,
out of fear, out of trepidation, out of worry, you know,
not wanting to be judged, whatever it is. And it's
like that's not how you live a good life. Yeah,
Like you can't truly be happy if that's the facade
(40:39):
you're living.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Behind, exactly exactly. Yeah, I love that, beautifully said, I
feel like we keep going on this time. What's let's
let's kind of and this here. What's your hope for
the rest of Group six's journey at least from your
what you're looking for?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Yeah, so I love I love the cans, right, I
love I've loved getting to know more of the guys,
like and I'm assuming this is how it's going to be.
But like the first lotis you kind of had a
few guys that you talked to, especially the people you
drove down with, and then you had a little bit
more time with certain people individuals. Just how it works
(41:19):
with fifty guys right times limited you've got structure, et cetera.
The second one, you know, there were people that I,
you know, obviously introduced myself to, kind of knew their names,
but didn't know anything about them. And it's just like
what I'm hoping number one is just to grow so
that all fifty of these guys, like I feel like
I know you and I can reach out to you,
(41:40):
you can reach out to me. I know your family,
I know your job, I know what your interests, are
I know what your goals are, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
But on a more selfish note.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Like for me, it's continuing this journey of self worth
and self love, right, like the two takeaways, Like if
I could boil it down to one thing that I
took away from both of these the first two lootises,
it was self love and self worthiness exactly. And so
for me, like, I mean, it's pretty apparent that's where
I struggle, that's what I need help with. And I
(42:12):
think that as I continue down, you know, this path
and continue to interact with the guys and join the
calls and attend the loutises and those types of things, like,
my hope is that I'll be able to develop and
learn the skills necessary to truly see myself in the
(42:35):
proper light, right, the proper lens. And again I don't
I maybe getting back to this second loutis, you may
may not have done this. There was an exercise that
was called chod right, yeah, and it was it was
kind of like you would go up to your peers
and you would either you know, essentially you would just
tell them things that you saw that hurt you in them.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
And maybe that's not a good explanation of it.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
But anyway, exercise was like a lot of people came
up to me and they're like, it hurts me that
you don't value or see yourself the way that the
rest of us do. Yeah, And because you see that,
you're holding back and you're withdrawing, you're not giving, you're
not as forthcoming of your experience, your energy, your love,
(43:21):
et cetera. And that's causing us in this group to
be to potentially not be able to reach our our potential. Yeah,
And so that was that was a big big thing
for me, is like again trying to see myself as
somebody that is worthy, that is acceptable, that can be loved.
(43:44):
And then once I see that, then that's where the
true power comes. Right, That's when I can then help others.
Whether it's my kids, you know, a relationship, friends, this group,
it doesn't matter. Like that's that's the catalyst, that's the
tipping point. That's the first step is loving yourself, accepting yourself,
(44:04):
understanding that you are worthy, and then leveraging that knowledge
with your skills, your talents, your experience to then go
out and change the world and to make those around you,
you know, and the things around you the people around
you much better.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That's a greater experience, right for all. Yeah, exactly. I
love that. And I feel like the two tie hand
in hand really well, right, the individual purpose and the
group purpose. Where it's like, if you just love yourself,
you're going to want to give more. Yeah, and you're
going to want to show up for people more, and
so you're just going to get more out of it.
(44:46):
You're just going to be able to create those friendships. Right.
It's one thing that Parker does so well. Yeah, he's
so intentional with creating these relationships, and he's intentional with
creating new relationships, right. Yeah. Like that's the other thing
is you got to be intention with these with these groups,
you got fifty guys, it's exactly right. If you're not intentional,
you're going to go back to the same ten people
(45:07):
that you always.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Go back to. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
But if you're intentional about it and you go to
different people, you're going to explore more.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah. I love that. Yeah, you know, I love it.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Yeah, And I think, yeah, it's one hundred percent, one
hundred percent right, Yeah, And just one thing that came
to mind. I don't really know if this ties in much.
But change require like radical change requires radical change, right,
whether that's in your relationships, whether that's in your life, financially, career, whatever,
and so again in this group, I think that's where
it kind of like something you said was like, if
(45:37):
you if you just don't give and you're not intentional,
and then you just kind of fall back to your
normal patterns, right, But if you want to expand you
want to grow, that requires change exactly, and that change
will then spark and spawn change.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
YEA, love it.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
So let's wrap this up. Okay, buddy, let's go ahead.
Let's give a shout out. Who's first person that come
to your mind? Give him some love? Well, honestly, there's
there's there's a lot that I could think of.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
It's been a it's been a rough week actually, So
all the boys, I'll just kind of group you all together,
all those that send me the the daily gratitudes within
the group sixt I won't list off your names because
I'll probably leave somebody out, but there's probably like ten
or twelve of you guys that ye consistently over the
last four months have reached out, you know. And I'll
(46:26):
be completely honest, like I struggle with that exercise. Yeah,
that's a tough one for me to you know, not
to not because I don't want to reach out because
I have a hard time seeing what I should be
grateful for, right, That's something I need to to change.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
But yeah, so all all of you. And then again,
like we've talked about him already, Dan Lake, like he.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
With that without his guidance or his I should I
don't want to say pressure, but without his pressure, I
wouldn't have been in this group. I wouldn't have been
in what I wouldn't have been Leadership Group six.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
And that.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Just makes me sick to think that maybe I could
have possibly missed on this opportunity to grow and to
be a part of this incredible organized organization and all
the men that are just so talented and have so
much experience and there it's great, Like it's it's life changing.
And so Dan, if you're listening, I appreciate you. Thank you,
(47:28):
Thanks for thanks for being persistent. Sometimes I can be stubborn.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Thanks for being Dan exactly.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
I'll give a shout out, Uh, who's who's going to mind?
There's quite a few. I'll give a shout out to
Dallas and Braden Brain's my roommate. Dallas just started a
podcast together, so I was on their podcast. They're having
a good time with it. Derek Tuyamaga, if this comes
out and you haven't started your podcast yet, I'm putting
pressure on you. You need to start your podcast right now.
(47:56):
I just I love seeing the guys in what either
start podcast or just want to go on as many
podcasts possible, right, Like you hit me up because you
wanted to be on as many as possible. We had
chance dunking on a couple of weeks ago from Group five.
He wanted to go on a lot more. It's just
cool that people want to share. Yeah, and just people
(48:16):
want to be a part of this and to get
their story out there and to have in depth conversations
with people they may not even know.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
We haven't met before now, so well, and what's crazy
is like maybe this is getting a little off key,
but like I.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Feel like you and I have an incredible connection.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
I met you literally an hour ago, you know, and
it's like how I feel like we're homie is doing
and it's all because we have that common goal, that
common purpose, that kind of that that that thread that
binds us together, right, and that's what But also I
think it's deeper than that.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
It is it's that we want to be.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
The best versions of ourselves exactly, and we want to
be able to to facilitate that for ourselves, but also
for everyone that's around us, family, friends, colleagues, employees, et cetera.
And I think that's what's cool, is like having the
same you know, like like mindedness, Like we're all like
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minded in one way or another, and probably in a
lot of ways more than than just one, you know,
And that's what we're that's what we're doing. We're striving,
we're striving to become the best people that we can.
And I think that's what I love about what the
three pillars you know that Jimmy has, Like if all
of us could live to those like society to be
so incredible, you know.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
And it's so unique too, because like just any guy
and wat it's just unspoken. Yeah, it's just we know
what we're here for exactly everything that you just said.
We know that everybody knows that, Yeah, exactly something. That's
just the best part.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Yeah, it's nothing new, it's just who we are. Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
I love that, all right, Brian. If anyone wants to
reach out to you, where can they reach out?
Speaker 4 (49:50):
Yeah, so you can find me on Instagram Underscore b
Smith fifty nine underscore.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Same with TikTok perfect. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
I'm starting to golf apparel excess for company Relentless Golf Co.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
So check that out as well.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
I'll get a little plug in there for me. Yeah exactly.
But uh yeah, man, that's how you can find me.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
And anyone who has the WA app you can go
look at the Brian Smith. I'm surprisingly the only Brian Smith.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Surprising very unique name. Yeah exactly, So, Brian, thanks for
doing this man. I'm looking forward to us seeing the
rest of your as a journey play out.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
All right, Thanks Nick, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Man, Thank you for listening to another episode of the
We Are the Day podcast. If you want to join
this incredible community, this incredible brotherhood of men, you can
go on Instagram at mister Jimmy Rex or at watmovement
dot com. Click the link of the bio you can
join the tribe. To tribe is open right now. Directly
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
And with that, let's get to today's episode. All right,
welcome back to the We Are the Day Podcast. Today
we are joined by Brian Smith from Group six. Brian,
how you.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Doing doing well? Man? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm doing good? Good? You know. Second one of the day.
I was cranking out a couple of podcasts every day,
just grinding over there, bro, Yeah exactly. I got one
later tonight too, So that one's different though. That was
just talking about sports. That easy. That's easy, right, that's light. Yeah,
all I can talk about sports for five hours every day,
I'd be perfectly fine. So well, thank you Brian for
coming on the podcast. Asked, I think you were actually
(01:01):
supposed to come on with Parker, right, Yeah, I was
a month ago or so.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, Like work just got in the way.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I couldn't make it down. But Parker was like, such
a good dude. It's such a good dude. I'm sure
you've you know, you know, you had an hour at least,
if not more with him.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I've had more with Parker. I loved such a good dude,
such a good love that guy. I it was it
was fun to have Parker on because it was like
Parker he o says this. I think he says he's
the second most connected person in the community behind me,
just because I host the podcast. And I'm like, dude,
I don't know, I feel like you might be more.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I mean, I don't know who I put some money on.
It's either you or him, for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's it's pretty close between Them's.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Very a very social dude, and it's like it's who
he is.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Just an incredible guy that way. Yeah, well, Brian, let's
get into it true what podcast fashion. We have to
start off with your story, how you found out about
what and then why you decided to join.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, so I mean, I guess I kind of knew
who Jimmy Rex was at a certain point, you know,
like a few years ago, just kind of heard the
name and didn't really think.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Much of it.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
But I ended up dating a girl who knew Jimmy
and this last like I guess it was May so
ten months ago, she was like, hey, you should look
into joining we are the day and I was like, oh, okay,
Like I didn't, I had no idea what men's groups
were or you know, like anything.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I was like, okay, whatever, And so I kind of looked.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Into it, and I'm I was too far behind the deadline,
and I think applications for the program weren't really for
Group five. For Group five weren't open, like they were closed.
So I was just like, okay, whatever, and it was
just in the back of my mind.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And then.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Fast forward, you know, five months or so, because I
think Jimmy opens it every six months, or at least
he has historically. And at that point, like I was,
I was going through some things like personally and mentally,
it was it was a rough time. And randomly enough,
I think, you know Danan Lake, he's in your during
group four, right, he just reached out to me, like
we went to high school together, Dan and I did,
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and I mean we were kind of friends, weren't We
didn't hang out on the weekends.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
But we played sports together, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And he kind of just randomly reached out to me
and he's like, hey, dude, like I joined this group.
It's really great, and I think you should look into it.
And as he kind of sent me the link, I
was able to connect or connect the dots between what
he was sending me and what this girl that I
was dating was telling me to.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Do, right, And so I looked into it and I
was like, it's.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Just not my thing, Like I'm I'm I don't want
to do it. I just don't.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
And I was back and forth probably for like five
or six weeks, honestly, just like this battle inside my head,
just like do I really want to do this? Do
I Is it really going to be worth the you know,
the investment? Am I going to really benefit from this?
And I just I couldn't shake it. I could not
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be like cause like I would be like, you know what,
I'm done, Yeah, I don't want to do this, like
it's not me. But then it would just come back.
It would come back, and then Dan would call me,
he'd face time, he would Marco pull on me, and
we had all these conversations and he was like, let
me have Jimmy reach out to you personally. So Jimmy
tried to reach out, and I'll be honest, Jimmy, I'm sorry,
(04:11):
but I screened your calls like two or three times
because I was like, dude, I don't want to talk
to this guy, like he's just gonna.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Sell me, Like come on.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
But anyway, like I finally answered one of his calls
and we had a good conversation and then I was
on the fence and didn't commit.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
He called me a week later, and it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Was actually really crazy because he called me. We had
a good conversation and I was like yep, like I
need to do it, Like on the phone, I was like,
I'll do it tonight, I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, I'll sign up.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
And then that night I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I have my kids and so it was just chaotic
night as most school nights are with my kids. And
that night I had a dream and the dream like
this is kind of crazy, Like the dream was like
you have to join we are the day you have
to wow, and so I kid you not. It was
like two thirty in the morning. I wake up, wide awake,
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get on my phone, sign.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Up right then. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
And that was probably like I don't know, maybe a
week and a half, two weeks before first loutis Yeah,
and here we are, and it was I mean, it's
only been three or four months, but it was one
of the best decisions I've ever made.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, I think your guys group is unique in that
way where it's like you made the decision. You guys
went straight to mo.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
App Oh yeah, yeah, because I think if I remember correctly,
most of the groups, like you had like a three
month kind of just calls and you didn't really get
to know the guys, and.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Our group had three months. Some of the other groups
a lot shorter real Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
But yeah, I mean it was great, Like I mean
we had one call before, yeah, you know, we did
the tribe call and then we did their group call
and then next thing we know, we're in.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
We're there just grinding out.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Just getting thrown into the experience.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It was. It was incredible.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, I think that's super cool. Like I said, with
Group six, where it's like you guys just signed up
and got to be a part of it right away.
Talk to me about that experience of going into moapp
with you know, you had a dream that said hey,
I got to join this, yeah, and now you're just
thrust in that position. What was your mindset going into
it and saying, hey, I got to be a part
of this, I got to do this, Like how do
(06:14):
you throw yourself into that situation?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
And it was it was tough to be honest, like
my biggest hesitation and this goes back to, you know, my.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Childhood, my upbringing, really my whole life.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
But I just I've never felt worthy of love or
worthy of success. Yeah, and one of the one of
the components of that is like my profession, my career, right,
like how successful I am financially all those types of things.
And the reason why I don't like these types of
like I guess Jimmy's group is very, very different. But
(06:49):
of course, you know, if you think of like a
men's group, you typically go to like networking and who
has the most this and who's done the biggest thing
here and all that kind of thing, And that just
doesn't it well with me because of my up career,
not that I haven't accomplished things, but I think i've
I feel like I should have done more. And so
going into it, I was I was very like I was.
(07:11):
I was super anxious, Like I was like, dude, do
I just bell Like I just not go? And then we,
you know, we carpooled down and with three other dudes
that are super super solid dudes, love all three of them,
but like even still like the first you know, I mean,
I guess from from here, it's like what three hours
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to Moab or.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So it's a pretty good drive, right, And so I
was just kind of like, who are these guys? Like
what do I have to offer?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
You know?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And they're telling me about their careers and what they're
doing and all these things, and I just felt so
like honestly like insecure. It was like, and this was
something I brought up to Jimmy. I was like, I
don't know if I have anything to offer. I know,
there's only you know, a certain number of spots that
are available for this group. Like I don't want to
be they do that's super selfish and just takes and
(08:03):
takes and takes but doesn't have anything to give. Yeah,
And so I was very skeptical and very reserved, you know,
on the on the drive down. But as we got
into it, like it was like Jimmy did such a
good job at creating a safe container where it was
and setting the expectation that like, hey, this isn't the
who's hopefully I can say this, whose.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Dick is the biggest? Right? Like it's like, that's not
what A mean.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Like we're not trying to one up each other, Like
we're honestly here to grow and to become the best
versions of ourself. And it was very apparent that first night,
that first Thursday, that that's what this was about. Yeah,
And at that point my whole mindset shifted and I
was like, dude, I'm I'm in, Like let's let's go.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, that's the best part about that Thursday. Anyone who's
gone through Moab knows what that Thursday is, and it's
the Badass List.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, it is getting rid of the imposter syndrome, exactly
everything that you felt on the car drive there, saying
I don't know what I have to offer you break
that wall down the first night you are there, you
do because I think that's probably I think Jimmy and
most people in the group would probably say this, that's
probably the number one thing that people go in there
with that insecurity of do I belong here? Yeah, and
(09:15):
you break that down immediately and you do the badass
list and you say, yes, I belong here exactly. So
I think that's super powerful.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, No, I loved it. It was such a cool experience.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
And then I mean kind of just piggybacking off of
of that first loutis like I don't know what he
calls it, but the step in the circle exercise, those
that have been there nowhere exercise.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It was so powerful for me.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Caused me to like really search deep into who I
am and how I feel about myself. And the takeaway
from that was incredible, and it was the fact that
like number one.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You are worthy.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah right, I never felt worthy in my entire life,
but you are worthy. You're worthy of whatever you want,
and you're worthy of life exactly. And it doesn't matter
what's gone on, doesn't matter what's happened you know prior
to this.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You are worthy. You are enough how.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You are and who you are right now.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And that was I mean, if that was it, if
that was the only takeaway I ever got from joining
wha it would be worth.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
It, exactly be worth it. Yeah, that's kind of how
a lot of people feel. Yeah, you get kind of
that one thing and you're like, that's it. Uh huh,
that's where it clicks.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I think MOAB is probably a lot of.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
People's I think so, dude.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I think a lot of us that join this group
like whether we know deep down or we're kind of
suppressing it, like we're we're kind of struggling a little
bit with a lot of things, you know, and it
takes an environment, a container, a safe space like that
to really let your guard down and to do that
inward soul searching to allow you to kind of know,
(10:53):
you know where I am, who I am, what do
I need to do?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Carrying that momentum from Ab, obviously you go three months,
you know, you're part of the calls, you're getting more
connected to the brothers, you're kind of feeling that out.
Let me ask you this, how was that first three
months for Group six, that first three months of like, hey,
mo AB's done, now it's just time for us to
connect and grow. How was that kind of going your
guys as separate ways and just kind of developing those
relationships on your own.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, And maybe this is more you know, my perception
versus the entire group, but I feel like there have
been enough things that have been said that we kind
of struggled a little bit honestly, Like you know, like
the I'm assuming most groups have a Marco Polo channel
or threat or whatever you want to call it. Right, Like,
we got called out multiple times by mo and by
(11:40):
Jimmy that we're not active enough on there.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
We're not, you know, like, and.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
So I think like it was really really great to
connect and be in person super quickly into the program. Yeah,
but it was like and for me when I came
home from Moab, I was like mentally an emotional just
drained right to take that Monday off, like damn, dude,
(12:04):
like I need to just chill for a minute.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's a lot.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And I think kind of like and we had your
accountability partners and you send your gratitude lists and the
weekly calls.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But I feel like we kind of.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Again this is just my perspective of the group, like
we didn't really have that connection, Like we connected, yeah
in Moab, but then we kind of just let it
fizzle a little bit. But our second lootist was just
a couple of weeks ago down in Saint George or
Pine Valley, and I feel like that three days was incredible,
(12:36):
Like the connection, the emotional tie have to all these
dudes was I mean astronomical compared to where it was
when we left Molab, Right.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's why, Like, it's why I
set up the question that way, because you guys just
got back from your second lootist, and anyone who's gone
from the first loose of the second lootis probably feels
that exact same way.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I know, our group was terrible, that really terrible on
that first months, and Jimmy has openly kind of came
out and said like he kind of scared us straight
in a way of not trying to get together too much. Yeah,
and he regrets that a little bit, but it was
kind of all resolved at that second Loutis where it
was like, all right, here's the connection, right, here's how
we lift each other up, literally literally lifting each other
(13:19):
up with the rock exercise.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
That would exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, So talk to me about that second Loutis because
you guys just got back from that about two weeks
ago or so, But you talked about how much that
strength of the connection, how important has that been for
you as a group, at least in your experience on
just saying hey, we're here together. We still have eighteen
more months of this, right, something like that at this
point for you guys, So how do you come out
(13:42):
of that and say, hey, we still got eighteen months
of this, let's grow, let's continue to grind, and let's
figure this out and be more connected.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, Now, I mean that Friday morning exercise where you
kind of go on the hike mo leads it, you
pick up a rock, you're carrying different people in your group,
Like that was very telling.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
That was very inspiring.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I guess I should say for me about you know,
it didn't matter that you know, we were in groups
of six and there's fifty people, so clearly you're you're
not experienced this with everybody, but of course we're all
there together, and so it wouldn't matter if you replaced
any of the other five guys in my group with
any of the other forty four people, Like I would
have felt the same way. But it's like I would
(14:22):
do anything for these guys, right, I would do anything
to not be a liability to be able to help
and to lift them up to support, to inspire, and
that was that was a really really cool experience for me.
And you know that, even though it was just the
five guys plus myself in that group, I felt like
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collectively I felt more drawn and close to the to
everybody just by that exercise, right, Yeah, And you could
kind of see the group in front of you, you
could hear the group behind you as you're like hiking
up this trail and you're carrying the heaviest two dude
UDEs and all these like it's it's a crazy thing,
it is, right, but like you can you can understand,
(15:06):
like you know, we're all in this together. Yeah, you know,
we have different backgrounds, different paths, it doesn't matter, you
know what that is. We're here for one purpose and
that's to connect and to grow exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And I love that.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And then we got back. We did the ice bath,
which was cool. I mean, I guess no punitent it was.
It was freezing, yes, of course, But but then we
had a lot of great conversation and one like I
we talked a lot about the father wound, and I
didn't feel like I had anything like the first two days,
I was just like like okay, like I must have
(15:44):
a great.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Relationship with my dad, you know. But then.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Saturday there was an exercise where we had to write
a letter to our dad and I can't even remember
what we were supposed to tell him. All I remember
is like everything just unloaded, Like it was just like
floodgates were open.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I was just I was, I was feeling a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, And it was a it was a It was
a really great opportunity for me to do some soul searching,
right to reflect, because I think for so long, like
not only with you know, father wound, but with a
lot of things like I just deflect, like I just
shove it under the rug. But this gave me an
opportunity to really sit in it and fill it and appreciate.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And then you know, like I had, I had.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I had a pretty big breakthrough. Honestly, like.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
We did, I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
You probably did the fire. So did you guys not
do the fire? Our group has not done the Saint
George Luis.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Oh you haven't.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You guys just did a second Okay, okay, we we
did a second. Lootus a little bit differently. At Eagle Mountain,
it was just kind of a test run, I guess
more or less, it didn't really work out very well,
so ours was a little bit different. But we did
do we did do the rock exercise and then wed
a couple others.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
So well, the end of this, like the last night
we had this exercise where we're all just kind of
stood around this fire. Yeah, and it was you know
that there are many different things that people talked about,
but for me, it was kind of letting go and
accepting the fact that I for so long felt that
I'm unworthy of love and success and the life that
(17:24):
I want. And I made some connections on where that
was coming from. A lot of it had to do
with my upbringing, how to do with the religion that
I was brought up in, trying to please other people,
Like there was a lot, you know, and it was
cool to kind of stand around the fire and just
share a quick little recap of my story and where
(17:48):
like connecting the dots from this is my childhood, this
is my adolescence, this is my young adult life, this
is where I've gotten and this is why I feel
the way that I feel and now being able to
do something about it right, be able to to understand
that and then take the necessary steps to heal and
to become, you know, truly authentic to who I am
(18:11):
and who I want to be.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, I love that. I think it's super special that
the first lootis you really start to break through a
lot of those walls for yourself, and then once the
connection builds, it really starts to open up the flood gates, right. Yeah. Yeah,
it's almost like that first lootus you're kind of you know,
breaking through the exterior, You're kind of cracking it everything
(18:34):
slowly but surely. And that second lootis once the connections
start to come through, that's what really allows the floodgates
to open.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Because you're with people that you love and care about,
who you know love and care about you, and it
just gives you that even more like it's just it's
I don't want to say vulnerable state, but it allows
you to be in that mod exactly. It allows you
to be in that space more and in that mindset
of just being like, hey, I can be open, I
can my experiences, I can share what I'm struggling with,
(19:02):
and I can present that to the other people around me,
and they'll be able to support me how I need
to be supported.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Sure, So I love that. Yeah, no, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I remember the first lootis like you're always sizing everybody up,
you know, I'm sure everybody does the same thing, like, oh,
this guy's kind of a dick, or this guy might
be like whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Sure a lot of people thought I was a dick.
I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But like one one dude that.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We talked about, Parker earlier, like before I met him before,
we're just the you know, a couple hours. You get there,
you check in before dinner, and everything starts like you're
I was looking at him.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I'm like, okay, this guy, he and I might not
get along. We just might not vibe right.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
And then for whatever reason, you create your bad badass list,
and then you break into smaller groups and you read
your badass lists and everybody cheers you on.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And so he was in my group. I was like, okay,
cool whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You know, like all right, this guy, this guy exactly Parker.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I love you.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
But we were going downstairs the stairs, and I was
like walking down the this you know, the couple half stairs,
I don't know how to explain that. He was kind
of at like the landing in between the two staircases
and you could just I could just see he was struggling,
like he was. I was like, Okay, maybe I prematurely
(20:22):
judge this guy, Like maybe I need to just chill.
And then we got into the exercise and then we
got into the rest of the weekend, and it's like,
Parker's probably the coolest guy I know, Like I love
that guy. And I think to your point going back
to the vulnerability is like a lot of times we
have our guard up and we can't put those walls
(20:45):
down because we're scared of you know, judgment or reprimmendation.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Or whatever it is exactly.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
And you know, like the second lootis you're like, okay,
like we're all we're all g's, Like we're all homies.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
This is great. It doesn't matter. Like they're gonna be
as vulnerable as I want.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
And I know that there's going to be no judgment,
there's going to be no shame, there's gonna be no
you know, looking down or finger pointing, because we're all there,
we've all been through it, you know, to one degree
or another.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Exactly. I think it's it is special, right, like being
able to just see those connections forming and seeing them
just fester and bond and figure out what figure out
what relationships are going to work for you in different
ways too, write like shout out Dan Lake or we're
just shouting out the same like two people on the podcastlessly,
(21:36):
but like Dan Lake and I have such a great
relationship of just being able to reach out at the
perfect exact times, kind of like you did with you. Right,
It's one of the gifts that both of us have
gotten in this life, which is we know when to
reach out. Sure, we know how to reach out. Yeah,
I think it's something special that you know, we have
had that connection in that way and we've been able
(21:57):
to develop that into so many more things. I think
that's super cool. And you just get to see that
through these lyticism You just get to see that progression.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
So I'm sure, like to your point, progression.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
It's snowballs, right, it's probably exponentially so. Right, here's the
first one, second one, by the third, fourth, eighth one.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
You guys are just like vibing. You guys are family.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Right like you one hundred percent love like we talked
a lot about the three AM friend, you know, and
it's like, yeah, like I would, you know, go to
bat for any of these guys.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, you know, you call me, you text me, you
need me, I'm there, Yeah, you know, And that's really
really cool.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, there's a lot of power in that because I think, like,
as men, a lot of times we put on this
facade of like having to be stoic and not vulnerable,
and we have to just have a stiff upper lip,
which I think in a lot of cases is true. Right, Like,
as men, you have to do that, But there's also
the other side of us that we do feel, we
do have emotion, you know, and tapping into the feminine
(22:55):
energy that we all have, right like, and being in
a group of very successful and powerful men, but creating
a space where you can be vulnerable and you can
feel and express emotion.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I think that's so powerful. Yeah, percent agree. I love that.
I want to dive a little bit more into detail
on one thing that you talked about, which is kind
of the religion aspect and coming from the church. We
were talking about this beforehand, but I'll preface this by
saying that you know we are the day is a.
(23:32):
It's a nationwide community and people all across the country.
I know there's people all across the country in your group,
people all across the country. In our group, there's people
all across the country. And the tribe's it's all over
the place. But there is something about this hub in
Utah and kind of the culture of Utah and what
Utah brings with the Church of Jesus Christ, flattery Saints,
and how a lot of people grow up in that.
(23:52):
I know that your story kind of evolves similar around that,
but I'm curious your thoughts on you know, you you
have since left the church, correct, Correct, And so I
think there's a good amount of people who have since
left the church, not just because and I mean not
because of what right some people lead before then some
people you know, discover during it is what it is. Yeah,
(24:13):
But it goes back to one thing that Connor Delann
talked about on this podcast, which is I don't know
if what is the one thing that I can say
is the catalyst for a lot of this in my life,
but it's definitely a part of it. And so I
think coming back to the church side of things, I
think what is definitely something that people look at and
they go, hey, I need to rediscover this about myself.
I need to rediscover that about myself. Yeah, I'm curious
(24:35):
your thoughts on the you know, LDS influence within what
and the fact that we are in Utah there are
so many people who are either current members ex members
still figuring that out. I'm curious your thoughts on where
the church kind of belongs in a community like this,
and and just the relationship to a higher power in general.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah, let me share my story, my story, and then
we can get into that. Said well, I mean, I
grew up in a very loving home. My mom and
dad were great, love them still to this day. But
there was a very high expectation of you live this religion,
like there was no alternative, and you did everything. We
(25:20):
were all in right, And from a very very young age,
I felt like it didn't connect with me. And I
didn't realize it at the time, like as early as ten,
right like or twelve, Like I didn't want to read
my scriptures, I didn't want to go to seminary, I
didn't want.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
To do any of these things. Like it just didn't
sit with me.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Of course, however, there was this and like I said,
I didn't realize it at the time. I didn't know
the feelings that are feeling I was feeling they and
and that didn't resonate with me. I think that's the
big thing I've been able to kind of uncover, is
that at that time, like it's like even today, where
it doesn't resonate with me feeling those same feelings at
(26:01):
a you know, super young age ten, eleven, twelve, but
I didn't know how to handle those. I wasn't emotionally
aware enough or intelligent enough to know what are these
feelings saying? Plus I had this influence from my parents
where it was and the greater community, right, Like I
grew up in.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
A small town.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I grew up in Delta, Utah, where I would guess
ninety five percent of the population is.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You know, lds.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's kind of just what you grow up.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
And so if you kind of just don't know anything else, right,
and so like you start to question as like Okay,
maybe I don't want to do this, but.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Then there's all this outside influence.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
It's like, well, if you question or if you don't
want to do it, or you do this or this
or that, like something's wrong with you, You're not worthy.
And so for a long time, you know, most of
my childhood I was I was in that dilemma of like,
I don't want to do this, but I feel like
I have to exact, Like I don't have any other choice.
(26:56):
And so I wasn't living authentically to who I was.
And I mean most I would assume most teenagers probably
don't even know what living authentically means.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Or how you do that.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
It's all just a circumstance or it's all just an
influence of your circumstances, right, Yeah, And so anyway, I'll
try to keep this brief. So I was just fighting
that constantly. I was a good kid, you know, listen
to my parents, but deep down I was like, I
don't want to do this. I don't want to go
to church, I don't want to descemer, I don't want
to do any of things. Yeah, And I graduated high
(27:30):
school and four days later I moved from Delta to
Cedar City, Utah to play American Legion baseball, and I
got my own apartment. I had a couple of roommates,
and at that point that was the first time in
my life where I felt liberated. Right like where I
was just like I didn't have my parents, I didn't
have the religion. I could do whatever. If I wanted
(27:50):
to go to church, I'd go to church exactly. If
I never wanted to step foot in that building again,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I was just going to do what I felt was
right for me in that moment.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And it was such a great It was like, you know,
four well probably five six months, Like I played summer ball,
then I was going to I had a scholarship at
SUU to play baseball and so start a fall ball
and I was just thriving, like socially, mentally, emotionally, like
I was just in such a great spot. And then,
(28:24):
you know, probably midway through October, I got an eight
page letter from my dad about like basically guilty me
into going on a mission. Wow, just saying, you know
this is what you need to do, you know this
is what is right, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah,
And so at that point, like my goal was.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
To play professional baseball.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
And I feel like at that time, had I stayed
on my trajectory, had I been authentic to what I wanted,
I could have done that like honestly, I could have
and a lot of people will say that or people
will listen and roll their eyes, but like because everybody's
like I could have done this, could have done that,
but like legitimately, like I was, I was a late
bloomer and so like I was super good in high school,
(29:09):
but then I started to get muscle, I started to mature,
grew get stronger, and that just you know, canapulded my
success on the baseball field. Yeah, but anyway, I it
kind of like this, after reading this letter, it tied
back into my you know, this this inner childhood wound
that I wasn't worthy enough unless I did this exactly.
(29:32):
So I decided to go on a mission and came
back and baseball didn't pan out. And then kind of
just similar things like I you know, met my ex
wife and she was she kind of said like, hey,
if you don't do these things, meaning live in accordance
with the standards or the expectations of the LEDs Church,
(29:53):
like you can't date. And so I was like, okay,
like whatever, I'll I'll conform basically, I'll do it. And
so I did that for you know, twelve thirteen years
and eventually I was just like, I can't do this anymore,
Like it's just not who I am. Like I got
into depression. I got into I was to the point.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Where I was I was suicidal, like I had a
note written.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I was ready to just check out one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
But then I kind of realized, like, hey, religion doesn't
define me, and my worthiness isn't tied I say this,
like I knew that.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
How do I say this?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Like logically it said, my worthiness isn't tied to what
I do, Like I'm worthy regardless of whatever happens in
my life, the choices I make, et cetera. So logically
I knew that, and that's kind of what catapulted me
to distancing myself from the church.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, but it's taken me.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
You know, that's been over six years ago, and it's
taken me a long time to kind of like connect
the emotional and the logical right like truly believe, Yeah,
you are worthy.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
It doesn't matter exactly. And so that that's kind of
my experience with the church.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
And I you know, I look at our group and
I can just speak from that experience, and there's I mean,
we're probably fifty to fifty in terms of people that
are LDS and those that aren't.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And I think it's great, Like I think if it
serves you perfectly, like do it, go for it. And
it goes back to exactly what you said, where like
you didn't feel like you were living you're authentic y
right exactly, And I think that no matter what you
believe in, if you're living your authentic life, that's the
thing that's really exactly there exactly. Whether it's you know,
(31:44):
whether it's the LDS religion, whether it's you know, whatever, whatever,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Like if you're being authentic to who you are and
how you feel and you're living that life or you're
living your life to that standard and that you're trying
to reach your potential, I think you're great.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, I think that's all that you can do. And
I think what's interesting for me is like I look
at my family and I'm the only one that's not.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Still active in the LDS church, right, Yeah, they're all
very very active and it serves them. They love it,
like they thrive, and I'm great, I'm happy for them,
Like I don't you know, I'm not going to argue
with them. I'm not going to say you're wrong, I'm right,
like whatever, Like, if that serves you and that causes
you to feel you know enough, or feel worthy or
have purpose or whatever, it is, great, go for it. Yeah,
(32:32):
but then also allow me to have the same flexibility
and freedom to do what I feel like is going
to give me those same things. Yeah, and just because
it's not we're not congruent, doesn't mean that I'm right
or you're wrong or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, And that point is so crucial, And I think
that point actually ties in a lot to want in general,
which is like a lot of people look at it
from the outside and you're like you're in a men's group,
Like what is that doing for you? Like what's the purpose?
Then I don't understand what that is. Right, you're paying
for your friends, Like is that what you're doing here?
Like it serves me, right, it serves everybody in this group.
(33:10):
So do whatever works' serving you? Yeah, I agree one
hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
You know, whether it's religion, whether it's relationships, whether it's
your job, hobbies, Like, if it doesn't serve you, like
life's so short and so precious exactly that we don't
have time to kind of dick around, you know. Yeah,
like you like, I wasted a lot of my life,
you know, and I look back on my life and
I love it, you know, like it was. It is
(33:35):
who I am, and it's helped me get to where
I am now and the person that I am. But it, yeah, it,
I don't know, like it. If it doesn't serve you,
then you shouldn't be doing it. And I'm a I'm
a one hundred percent advocate of that.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, I love that. Do you think that's been your
biggest takeaway from what you've learned so far throughout this
journey is how what serves you the most? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I think so, I think, and I think like the
reason why it resonates with me is because I was
I was in a dark spot, bro like the whole
you know, growing up feeling that way, going on a mission,
not being able to almost sacrificing my my dreams for
someone else or for something else, the church, a mission,
et cetera, exactly that, and that was hard because growing up,
(34:21):
like my identity was on tied to being a baseball player. Yeah,
It's like, I don't it doesn't matter what else, I'm
a baseball player, and that didn't pan out right, and
then you know, growing continuing my time in the church
and living the standards and doing all the things the
requirements like it, it just wasn't who I was. And
(34:44):
it just felt like this every single day there was
just more and more pressure and weight on my shoulders
of feeling like I'm not good enough, Like why why
why don't.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I enjoy this?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
If this is what I'm supposed to be doing, how
come I don't find joy? How come doing all the
things that you know, living the standards, serving in your callings,
doing whatever it is?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Like, I just didn't.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Feel good, Like it didn't help me, you know. And
because of that, and then and I think too like
so like again it's all going back to authenticity, right,
Like I wasn't being authentic to who I was.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
And then I was married to a.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Famous influencer, and everything that we posted, everything that we
put out on our social media or her social media
was it was fabricated, bro Like, it wasn't real, Like
behind every single picture or story or video, like it
looked like we had this picture perfect family, right, but
(35:46):
we didn't. Like bed I bet you I could go
back through every single post and remember Okay, this is
what happened here.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
This kid was crying.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
We were screaming about this, we were fighting about that,
Like it just wasn't authentic, it wasn't real, and all
those things kind of just like led me, you know,
being in that state of inauthent in authority is that
the right word, or unauthority whatever, not being auth this
like that, not living true to who I was, Like
that took a huge toll on my mental health.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, and I was, Yeah, I mean it does for
most people. And I think that's one of the things
that I'm.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Very passionate about and I want to create awareness around,
is your mental health is directly related to who you
are and your ability to either live to that or
feel like you have to live and be something different.
And for me, like I got to a point where
I was I was ready to check out one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, I had a note, I had a plan, I
had a day, like everything I was ready to be done.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
And I attribute that all back to not being authentic,
to not being who I was, not living true to myself,
not listening to what you know, my my inner thoughts
and cares and all the things that were trying to
tell me this is who you are and this is
what you need to do. But then feeling, you know,
(37:12):
like feeling a sense of on acceptance or on being
unlovable because I didn't align with what I was taught
or with what the mainstream expectations were exactly.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
If that makes sense and it resonates with me, I'll
share a little bit about my story. One of the
things that I've dealt with was I had always dealt
with anxiety, and depression kind of popped its head in
different ways. Yeah, one of the things that I dealt
with was being in a sales role. I felt like
(37:49):
I had to put on a completely different personality to
overcome my anxiety, which then translated into everything else in
my life. Sure, right, And so I was probably working
that job for two and a half years, and I
realized one day that it was basically my entire personality.
My personality was a salesman. I was just trying to
get my way anyway I could, right. I think a
(38:11):
lot of salespeople relate to this. So that all being said, basically,
what HA ended up happening was I was bedridden for
like three months because I couldn't look myself in the
mirror because I didn't know who I was. And it's
that exact same thing, right, I had become a person
completely different to my authentic self, and I struggled with
(38:31):
dealing with that and literally living with that. Like I
I would get on my bed, I would go to work,
I would come home, and I would be in bed.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I didn't I want to see friends. I didn't I
see a family. I didn't want to do. I didn't
want to see anyone because I didn't want them to
see me for someone that I wasn't. But I also
didn't know who I actually was, and so it was
this constant battle back and forth of how do you
figure out who you are but also try and show people.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Who you are exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I think that's one thing that this group does really well. Yeah,
it allows you a space, a safe container for you
to figure out who you are, and it provides a
great community to then show who you.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Are to exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I was just gonna say that, Yeah, you're able to
come and there, you let all your.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Guards down exactly, be.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Authentic, exactly who you are, and there's no judgment, right
because all of like what's crazy is like all of
us in our group are that same way. Like I
would bet that most of us came in with some
sort of imposter syndrome or you know, reservation or we're
not going to be vulnerable like whatever. Right, But now
(39:39):
it's like we're all in this, we understand, we're all
in the same boat. And I think it's kind of
like a microcosm of society. I think most people you
know are like they have this this shell, these these
masks that we wear, right because we were scared or
(39:59):
we're of what people are going to think or maybe
what we want to do or who we truly are
maybe not may not fit with the mainstream media or
what's acceptable or whatever. Yeah, and that could be like
there's a spectrum on that too, right, Like it could
be very severe, it could be little.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
It could be not too big of a deal at all.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
But end of the day, like we're not being true
to ourselves, we're not doing the things that serve us,
out of fear, out of trepidation, out of worry, you know,
not wanting to be judged, whatever it is. And it's
like that's not how you live a good life. Yeah,
Like you can't truly be happy if that's the facade
(40:39):
you're living.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Behind, exactly exactly. Yeah, I love that, beautifully said, I
feel like we keep going on this time. What's let's
let's kind of and this here. What's your hope for
the rest of Group six's journey at least from your
what you're looking for?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Yeah, so I love I love the cans, right, I
love I've loved getting to know more of the guys,
like and I'm assuming this is how it's going to be.
But like the first lotis you kind of had a
few guys that you talked to, especially the people you
drove down with, and then you had a little bit
more time with certain people individuals. Just how it works
(41:19):
with fifty guys right times limited you've got structure, et cetera.
The second one, you know, there were people that I,
you know, obviously introduced myself to, kind of knew their names,
but didn't know anything about them. And it's just like
what I'm hoping number one is just to grow so
that all fifty of these guys, like I feel like
I know you and I can reach out to you,
(41:40):
you can reach out to me. I know your family,
I know your job, I know what your interests, are
I know what your goals are, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
But on a more selfish note.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Like for me, it's continuing this journey of self worth
and self love, right, like the two takeaways, Like if
I could boil it down to one thing that I
took away from both of these the first two lootises,
it was self love and self worthiness exactly. And so
for me, like, I mean, it's pretty apparent that's where
I struggle, that's what I need help with. And I
(42:12):
think that as I continue down, you know, this path
and continue to interact with the guys and join the
calls and attend the loutises and those types of things, like,
my hope is that I'll be able to develop and
learn the skills necessary to truly see myself in the
(42:35):
proper light, right, the proper lens. And again I don't
I maybe getting back to this second loutis, you may
may not have done this. There was an exercise that
was called chod right, yeah, and it was it was
kind of like you would go up to your peers
and you would either you know, essentially you would just
tell them things that you saw that hurt you in them.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
And maybe that's not a good explanation of it.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
But anyway, exercise was like a lot of people came
up to me and they're like, it hurts me that
you don't value or see yourself the way that the
rest of us do. Yeah, And because you see that,
you're holding back and you're withdrawing, you're not giving, you're
not as forthcoming of your experience, your energy, your love,
(43:21):
et cetera. And that's causing us in this group to
be to potentially not be able to reach our our potential. Yeah,
And so that was that was a big big thing
for me, is like again trying to see myself as
somebody that is worthy, that is acceptable, that can be loved.
(43:44):
And then once I see that, then that's where the
true power comes. Right, That's when I can then help others.
Whether it's my kids, you know, a relationship, friends, this group,
it doesn't matter. Like that's that's the catalyst, that's the
tipping point. That's the first step is loving yourself, accepting yourself,
(44:04):
understanding that you are worthy, and then leveraging that knowledge
with your skills, your talents, your experience to then go
out and change the world and to make those around you,
you know, and the things around you the people around
you much better.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That's a greater experience, right for all. Yeah, exactly. I
love that. And I feel like the two tie hand
in hand really well, right, the individual purpose and the
group purpose. Where it's like, if you just love yourself,
you're going to want to give more. Yeah, and you're
going to want to show up for people more, and
so you're just going to get more out of it.
(44:46):
You're just going to be able to create those friendships. Right.
It's one thing that Parker does so well. Yeah, he's
so intentional with creating these relationships, and he's intentional with
creating new relationships, right. Yeah. Like that's the other thing
is you got to be intention with these with these groups,
you got fifty guys, it's exactly right. If you're not intentional,
you're going to go back to the same ten people
(45:07):
that you always.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Go back to. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
But if you're intentional about it and you go to
different people, you're going to explore more.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah. I love that. Yeah, you know, I love it.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Yeah, And I think, yeah, it's one hundred percent, one
hundred percent right, Yeah, And just one thing that came
to mind. I don't really know if this ties in much.
But change require like radical change requires radical change, right,
whether that's in your relationships, whether that's in your life, financially, career, whatever,
and so again in this group, I think that's where
it kind of like something you said was like, if
(45:37):
you if you just don't give and you're not intentional,
and then you just kind of fall back to your
normal patterns, right, But if you want to expand you
want to grow, that requires change exactly, and that change
will then spark and spawn change.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
YEA, love it.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
So let's wrap this up. Okay, buddy, let's go ahead.
Let's give a shout out. Who's first person that come
to your mind? Give him some love? Well, honestly, there's
there's there's a lot that I could think of.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
It's been a it's been a rough week actually, So
all the boys, I'll just kind of group you all together,
all those that send me the the daily gratitudes within
the group sixt I won't list off your names because
I'll probably leave somebody out, but there's probably like ten
or twelve of you guys that ye consistently over the
last four months have reached out, you know. And I'll
(46:26):
be completely honest, like I struggle with that exercise. Yeah,
that's a tough one for me to you know, not
to not because I don't want to reach out because
I have a hard time seeing what I should be
grateful for, right, That's something I need to to change.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
But yeah, so all all of you. And then again,
like we've talked about him already, Dan Lake, like he.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
With that without his guidance or his I should I
don't want to say pressure, but without his pressure, I
wouldn't have been in this group. I wouldn't have been
in what I wouldn't have been Leadership Group six.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
And that.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Just makes me sick to think that maybe I could
have possibly missed on this opportunity to grow and to
be a part of this incredible organized organization and all
the men that are just so talented and have so
much experience and there it's great, Like it's it's life changing.
And so Dan, if you're listening, I appreciate you. Thank you,
(47:28):
Thanks for thanks for being persistent. Sometimes I can be stubborn.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Thanks for being Dan exactly.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
I'll give a shout out, Uh, who's who's going to mind?
There's quite a few. I'll give a shout out to
Dallas and Braden Brain's my roommate. Dallas just started a
podcast together, so I was on their podcast. They're having
a good time with it. Derek Tuyamaga, if this comes
out and you haven't started your podcast yet, I'm putting
pressure on you. You need to start your podcast right now.
(47:56):
I just I love seeing the guys in what either
start podcast or just want to go on as many
podcasts possible, right, Like you hit me up because you
wanted to be on as many as possible. We had
chance dunking on a couple of weeks ago from Group five.
He wanted to go on a lot more. It's just
cool that people want to share. Yeah, and just people
(48:16):
want to be a part of this and to get
their story out there and to have in depth conversations
with people they may not even know.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
We haven't met before now, so well, and what's crazy
is like maybe this is getting a little off key,
but like I.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Feel like you and I have an incredible connection.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
I met you literally an hour ago, you know, and
it's like how I feel like we're homie is doing
and it's all because we have that common goal, that
common purpose, that kind of that that that thread that
binds us together, right, and that's what But also I
think it's deeper than that.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
It is it's that we want to be.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
The best versions of ourselves exactly, and we want to
be able to to facilitate that for ourselves, but also
for everyone that's around us, family, friends, colleagues, employees, et cetera.
And I think that's what's cool, is like having the
same you know, like like mindedness, Like we're all like
(49:12):
minded in one way or another, and probably in a
lot of ways more than than just one, you know,
And that's what we're that's what we're doing. We're striving,
we're striving to become the best people that we can.
And I think that's what I love about what the
three pillars you know that Jimmy has, Like if all
of us could live to those like society to be
so incredible, you know.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
And it's so unique too, because like just any guy
and wat it's just unspoken. Yeah, it's just we know
what we're here for exactly everything that you just said.
We know that everybody knows that, Yeah, exactly something. That's
just the best part.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Yeah, it's nothing new, it's just who we are. Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
I love that, all right, Brian. If anyone wants to
reach out to you, where can they reach out?
Speaker 4 (49:50):
Yeah, so you can find me on Instagram Underscore b
Smith fifty nine underscore.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Same with TikTok perfect. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
I'm starting to golf apparel excess for company Relentless Golf Co.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
So check that out as well.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
I'll get a little plug in there for me. Yeah exactly.
But uh yeah, man, that's how you can find me.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
And anyone who has the WA app you can go
look at the Brian Smith. I'm surprisingly the only Brian Smith.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Surprising very unique name. Yeah exactly, So, Brian, thanks for
doing this man. I'm looking forward to us seeing the
rest of your as a journey play out.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
All right, Thanks Nick, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Man, Thank you for listening to another episode of the
We Are the Day podcast. If you want to join
this incredible community, this incredible brotherhood of men, you can
go on Instagram at mister Jimmy Rex or at watmovement
dot com. Click the link of the bio you can
join the tribe. To tribe is open right now. Directly
through there, you could also go to join Watt dot com.
(50:46):
That is j O I N w A T T
dot com. You could also go to WATFID dot com,
w A T, T V I D dot com to
go watch the We Are the They documentary as well.
If you have any other questions, feel free to reach
out to Jimmy directly or hit us up on Instagram.
Thank you again for listening to the podcast, and it
is that time once again for me to bid you
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