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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Wellness Jocks, where Athletes meets Wellness Innovations, starring
Rich Walker and Russ Allen.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Hey, listen up, this is coach Walker. We have a
very special show for you again today. So that being said,
I do want to bring on my teammate because we
don't do guests around here. We do teammates, and this
is the ultimate teammate. This is the man who got
me started on this journey. I had the opportunity to
meet Russ when I was covering the Super Bowl in

(00:49):
Los Angeles. When we're gonna go very deep into that story, Russ,
how are you doing today, Richard?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
So the first thing I want to do is just
share with everyone because you and I have we have
such a unique relationship. So I want to go back
to that moment where you and I met at the
Convention Center in Los Angeles. At the time, I'm well
over four hundred I don't even know how much I wait.
When I finally started losing weight and I went to
the doctor, I weighed in at four hundred and twenty

(01:17):
five pounds. I was bigger than that before that when
you and I met. So let's talk about that experience.
What do you call from our first meetia?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
First of all, to give the audience kind of an understanding,
the Super Bowl has what they call Radio Row or
Media Row, and what they do is they take a
huge convention room and they fill it with literally one
hundred and fifty to two hundred media outlets, each of
which have something as simple as a table and a mic,

(01:45):
to where they have elaborate boosts and extensive like Fox
and Serious and so on. In the middle of all that,
they have a green room where members of the media
can go up and get something to eat and relax.
Got it back because it's intense being in that room
just being in the room, let alone the constant interaction

(02:06):
that you experience. So anyway, I'm up there chilling and
trying to get my where do I go? Next? Thing going?
And Richard sits near me, and I just chat him
up a bit and I tell him what I'm doing,
and he says, you know, I'm getting married. I think
I could do what you're talking about. And I'm looking
at it.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Shared's full of chips and all this stuff in front
of him, and I'm going and he stands up and
Richard's six to six and I'm on a good day
five to six, and I'm thinking.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Oh yeah. So anyway, he got back in touch with
me and said, I'm serious, I'm going to do it.
So I coached him, we got him set up with
a meal replacement program, and the rest is history. We've
become very close friends as well as business partners. And
Richard lost on a meal replacement program over ninety pounds
within about six months. And we did it in many ways,

(03:02):
but just getting rid of the terrible abage that he had,
and Richard, you can elaborate on those.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
It was just a matter of, as I mentioned in
the preamble, making free agent acquisitions. And one of the
things that I learned through this journey and I want
to share with all of you guys, is that there
are alternate ways to live without having to make huge sacrifices.
As I mentioned before, I'm a postave guy, i'm a
rights guy, I'm a sweet guy. So these are things

(03:32):
that I had to find a way to substitute. So
the players that I had working for me on my
roster prior to this wellness journey, simply weren't getting a
job done, or they weren't getting a job done as
far as an obesity perspective, but they were not good
for me. So I had to cut those players. I
had to get rid of them, and I replaced them
with things such as monk fruit sweetener and non process substitutes.

(03:59):
So you have to do some homework, you have to
do some research. The information is out there, and once
you make these substitutes and it becomes a part of
your routine, then you see the sustainable results. And that's
what allowed me to stick to the plan, because, be honest,
everyone is tried. It failed so many times because they

(04:19):
try to put themselves in a box and they say,
I'm only gonna eat salad and chicken for three months.
And some people may be able to do that, but
the first time you get a slice of pizza or
a candy bar or something else, you're gonna deviate back
to who you're working for. So you have to instead
of changing your playbook, you change the personel. That's the
mindset that you have to adapt force. This will stand.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Just to add to that, The Wall Street Journal Today
ran an article about the addictive nature of ultraprocessed foods
and that it is literally to your body. Is if
you are taking a drug and it stimulates the brain
in a very similar fashion to drugs, which create an

(05:02):
addictive response because it releases endorphins and dopamine and that
feels so good. And remember Lays potato chips. They used
to go, bitch, you can't eat just one. They don't
do that anymore because they know that they know one, yeah,
and they know they're selling you addictive foods. So unfortunately,

(05:23):
as Americans, our diet now has gone across the world
and everywhere they adopt the Western diet, people get fat,
people gain weight, people lose control. I don't care if
it's Asia, India, Africa, it doesn't matter. If you start
incorporating these off processed foods in your diet, you're going

(05:44):
to gain weight and you're going to lose control because
you have this addictive response to those foods. Richard used it,
how much so did you used to drink a week?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
It was I used to drink three twelve packs per week.
So every Sunday, like clockwork, eight nine am or so,
I get up in the morning, I go to the
grocery store and I purchase three twelve packs, went for
the office, went for the house, went for the car.
Now there's that addic type behavior. I don't know what is,

(06:14):
Like I had to have soda in my vehicle. I
purchased a portable cooler that worked with my cigarette lighter,
so I keep my beverages cold when I'm driving. Just
addict like behavior.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, that is. It's a great example though of and
again just switching to diet soda doesn't resolve it because
there's there's an addictive nature of the diet soda as well. Unfortunately.
So there is, as you say, some learning and some
habitual behaviors that you have to change or nothing changes.

(06:47):
So that's why we stress a lifestyle weight loss because
it's really that's what it's about. You have to begin
to change your lifestyle and then you have to inherit
these things that you learn in that chain process. I
went through a process where I really tackled my obesity
using a meal replacement program which was really five about

(07:10):
one hundred calorie meal supplements and then what they call
a lean and green which is five to seven ounces
of lean protein, a couple of cups of vegetables and
a lot of water, the single most important ingredient in
a healthy lifestyle and one that helps you retain your

(07:31):
weight goals, because that's the key I've having gone through
the process to lose the weight. I've really focused on
is how do I how far can I cheat and
still not gain weight? And what are the hacks I
can use to not gain the weight back. So now
I'm about three years into this and hydration is my

(07:53):
biggest ally and I'm right now trying to train myself
to just drink water. I used to and I still
do a little bit of ocean spray with their five
calorie It's really good, but it's really processed food. And
I've got a Burky water filter which is great. You
just put the water in, it goes through these limestone filters.

(08:15):
You get incredibly good water and you never buy a
plastic bottle again. And so but now I'm trying to
get it to I just drink water, and that is
that's a different that's a different step where you can
just enjoy the water and do it. So now that's
this is my latest thing. My wife Kay joined me
on the journey after she had actually retired and found

(08:39):
out through her doctor that she had a brain to
so once that was removed, unfortunately it was not cancrous.
She looked into the mirror and she went, I'm obese.
And this woman just took it on, did the same
basic program and lost seventy pounds on that program. And
it is pretty much kept it all off, which is
you always get a little bit once you hit your

(09:01):
low point. Typically you're going to bounce FORTI five pounds,
which is acceptable. But what now, what I do is
I weigh myself at least every other day because you're
going to cheat the things you like, right so that
but where you really lose is if you don't keep
yourself accountable at least every other day. And during my

(09:23):
weight loss, I actually weighed myself every day. And not
everybody says to do that, but for me, it was
a way to hold myself accountable every day. And also
it was like, man, I'm holding on, I'm not eating
and I'm doing this thing and not whether you're doing
INNMN fasting or you're doing this kind of meal replacement program,
you will find that you're looking at that clock, when

(09:44):
is my next opportunity to eat? And what am I
going to enjoy? And because again the thing about food
is it is a drug. Even good food create an
endorphin response. Now all to process foods created an addictive
response and feeling full. So one of the best things
about hydration is you can feel full. And so Richard

(10:06):
and I met just to circle back at the super
Bowl and he began to track and work and then
as he I got to know him and is his
background and his abilities, I began to explore how to
work together. Now we own our own business together and
we've really but and about six months ago, Richard called
me and said, britt Russ, I'm ready to get married.

(10:28):
I proposed to my wife. She's accepted, and so we're
putting together the wedding and I'd like to invite you
as a groomsman on my wedding. And it was such
a as a golden moment, and we really have really
bonded together. And really it's such a thrill to wake
up every day to help other people.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
That's one of the things that really He'll propelled me forward.
And when I reached a point where I got towards
the i'd say a halfway point of achieving the initial goal,
because you don't ever want to say achieving the goal,
because you should always have something else to pursue. Favor.
One of my favorite Tom Brady quotes is that Ashton
was his favorite Super Bowl championship. He said the next month,

(11:10):
you should always have a goal to prepare you for us.
But as I got halfway through, I was like, this
is so great, Like it would be so selfish in
me to keep this to myself. So I start and
I noticed some people that I annoyed, but I started
telling everybody that would listen, Hey, gosh, you gotta do this,
you gotta do this. Then it became a passion. And

(11:30):
what developed from that is I've always I always say
I have one of the biggest miles in the Western hemisphere,
and it comes from being that locker room guy. It
comes from being in the hotel, it comes from being
on the field and on bus tours with teammates. I've
always been one of the guys that's been the voice,
and that transferred with me when I went into media,

(11:50):
and so I'm able to use the gift that I
have with a platform to share this information. So this
is one of the things that drives me is that
I know that I'm not just doing this for me.
I'm helping others. I literally get people that reach out
to me that says, man, I've been following you, or
they call and ask a question. I have some great

(12:11):
friends that were inspired by me, and I didn't even
ask them or approached him. One of them, and I'm
able to speak his name with Patrick Cragon my your friend.
He used the host of lay Hits on ESPN. Now,
he said, vive here in Houston. Patrick saw my journey
and he saw when I got to the seventy eighty
nine pound mark. He was like, dude, you are just
so inspiring. He's I just want you to know I

(12:33):
started my own journey and he lost sixty pounds because
he was inspired by me, and he was able to
drop his diabetes man's and he got his able and
C right and he was able to eat all blood
pressure mensin. So that's the kind of stuff that fires
me up, is hearing these wonderful testimonies from people that
you never know who you're gonna touch. So one of

(12:53):
the things that will help keep you going is to
share your story with others, share information with others, ask me,
ask questions, and most importantly, having an accountability partner, having
a coach or someone. If you don't, it's critical.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
You can lie to yourself for years. Right, that's really true.
I feel like Andy Reid here, I got a coaching
drig going right.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
You know the reason that a lot of people feel
is that they just they think they could do it themselves,
or in some cases especially men were hard headed and
we don't like to reach out for assistance because we've
been conditioning that we got the warrior mindset. We can
do this all alone. No one has ever accomplished anything
great by themselves. Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Muhammad Alli, you

(13:44):
name it. They had a coach. They had someone that
developed them along the way, someone that coached them, someone
that kicked them in the rear end on those days
where they didn't want to do things, someone that pointed
out their flaws. Michael Jordan had a sixty something point
game and Feel Jackson after the game toelding them, Oh yeah,
that was nice. It's an ego stroke. Yeah, you had

(14:05):
a sixty some point game. You could have had seventy
point game had you made a couple of free throws
that you missed. So the same type of mindset goes
towards your willness. You got to have someone that's that
voice in your ear to keep you going and this
is what keeps you on track. And when you also
provide that to others, it keeps the fuel going in you.
So this is just just feedback that we're.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Sharing with your win well, you know, positive feedback where
you are making results. So think about when you begin
to get control of your way. Is people do reach.
They just speak up and say look good, and that's reinforcing.
But the real question is I feel good and do
is my body making the changes that I need to

(14:51):
protect my wellness. Because one of our guys that I
worked with is Ojis Anderson and in his first challenge
was just da back in twenty fourteen, we sat down
with the doctor and she pointed out a major piece
of his banker has no longer worked because of his lifestyle,
because of his way. Richard's working on different cities with

(15:13):
me and we're going to expand this out and hopefully
within the city of New York, I'll be able to
reach a greater audience as well. And we were able
to get some TV coverage on it, and we're going
to expand this whole notion because at the end of
the day, it doesn't matter if it's March or April
or May or June, it still applies. You need to

(15:34):
learn how to tackle obesity, and it's obesity. I remember
the doctor who looked at my chart and went, oh,
you're obese, and I went what And it was like
he could have was like cold water on my face,
on my old body, and that shortens your life. It
increases the possibility of heart disease. You're almost guaranteed to

(15:57):
get type two diabetes, which quadruples your heart disease risk.
So it's one of those things that you've got to
be aware of. So I got involved because one of
our leaders, bart Oates, called me and said, Russ, you
ran this wellness challenge before, can you come do it
now for the NFL alumni. Absolutely, bart, So we did
it and then our first year we had eighteen guys

(16:18):
and sixteen, no fifteen of them lost thirty five plus pounds.
So that was a big hit and the alumni really
got behind it, and our sponsor, Novo got behind it,
and then we've expanded it so every year it got
more and more kind of inclusive and farther reaching. In
that first year, when we did an email to NFL

(16:42):
alumni members, one of our members Dick Buckets, who is
all everything legendary. You run out of superlatives for Dick,
but anyway, he said, I want to do it, and
so I actually went out to California and met with
him at his home and I set up Dick and
what to do, train him how to do it, and
pretty much got out of the way because he then

(17:04):
went on and at seventy nine years old, lost forty
seven pounds and it was amazing and he kept it
off unfortunately until he passed or this last year. But
Dick really set an example for people, and he inspired
so many people, and he really benefited from it himself.

(17:25):
So let's get our guys well to now let's inspire
the world to tackle obesity themselves and empower people to
do it. So we're partnering with a lot of different
folks to do it. Reach out and communicate and train
and inspire people and then support them in their journey,
which is really crude. Now we're going to really communicate

(17:46):
obesity is a medical condition, not a character fall. Richard.
That's something people when they're fighting obesity. It's you do
tend to point it yourself and think because you have
to hold yourself. The question is how do you do
it in such a way that you put the problem
over here and then just a coach, Okay, who do

(18:09):
I put in to beat that? I love the way
you're able to create these analogies of life and what
we're doing around football, because it really makes it makes
it easy and it takes the pressure off, and it's
very happy about that.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Absolutely, we're going to take a real quick commercial break.
We're going to continue this conversation because there's a lot
that we have to talk about. This is Richie Walker.
I am here with my teammate. It's great russ Outen.
We'll be back in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 3 (23:57):
And we are back and again. I want to say
it one more time. Obesity is a medical condition. It
is not a character flaw. It's important that everyone really
understands that. And it's something that I had to learn
to understand as well as I went through my journey

(24:18):
because I thought that and I'm just I'm no different
than anyone else. The common misconception about obesity is that
it's a lazy person's disease. But I had to take
a step back and think, if it's a lazy person's disease,
why does it impact some of the athletes, because when

(24:41):
you think about athletes, that's the exact opposite of lazy.
You guys have any idea what type of a commitment
it takes to be a professional athlete at any level.
We're talking years on years with hours of constant workouts,
recovery strategy. Lazy an athlete goes together like oil and water.

(25:06):
It does. That's that's definitely not what you're describing. Even
the guy who in the practice squad, the guys like
myself who never even had a cup of coffee on
the field in the NFL, you even get looked at
by the NFL team. So to me, that's the one
thing that, in my opinion, totally kills the misconception of

(25:26):
obesity being a lazy man's disease. And so I want
to start off by digging into that. Russ and I
want to talk about what are some of the facts
versus fans as it pertains to obcit.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
I have a whole video we call the Seven Habits
that Tackle Obesity. But at the end of the day,
there it comes down to habitual behavior and when what
you do again and again is going to be resulting
in what you put in your bank, your wellness bank.
So if you're doing things like drinking three twelve ounce no,

(26:00):
three packs twelve packs of twelve ounces of soda a
week on top of your pizza and everything else you're doing,
that is habitual behavior. That's what you're put in the bank,
and that guess what, that's what causes the body then
to respond to that flip side. If you hydrate properly,

(26:21):
you get the activity you need, you get you take
very careful food choices. All of that again is money
in the bank. He how do I do it and
not lose my stride? And that's where learning about things
like hydration. The thing is if you eat something sugar,

(26:41):
if you hydrate well after that, the body will pass that.
If you let it sleep with you. The body stores
your fat at night, especially at night. Interesting, the body
has three sources of energy carbhdrates, fats, protein, Okay, its

(27:01):
first choice is carbohydrate. The body will store up to
four days of carbohydrates in your body, and it'll store
for every ounce of carbohydrate, it'll store four ounces of water.
That's why when you work out, what happens, you sweat,
you release all this sweat because you're using all those
carbo hydrates, which then release that water that it's holding

(27:23):
onto and the body needs it, of course to move
out all of the waste product that is generated from
you using that energy. Now, okay, so when I go
a diet, what happens? Okay, there's many different kinds of ways,
but at the end of the day, for us to
lose weight, you need to create a caloric deficit of
some way. You can intermit fast. You can do a

(27:47):
Keto like approach where you eliminate carbs, because what happens
when I do keto. Okay, the first three days you're
using up the carbs you've stored. But then you go
into what's called tosis. Then the body switches over to
fat being the source of energy versus carbohydrates. Now, interesting

(28:09):
thing about fat, and this is called the thermogenic effect
of food. That's a big word, but it really means
the body is really efficient in some ways. Now, if
you're going to take carbohydrates and use them as your
primary source of energy, what happens. Your body uses about
ten percent of that food to burn those carbohydrates. Okay. Meanwhile,

(28:37):
if you eat fat, right, the body uses one to
three percent of that calories in the fat to metabolize.
The fact that's why you can smell fat middle go body. Now,
if you combine a high carbydrate meal with a bunch
of fat, body goes thanks for the carbs. I'm just

(28:57):
storing that fat because I'll need it later. Because human
beings grew up as a specie in an environment where
one day we got a lot to eat, and then
the next day nothing was around eat, and then the
next day was some stuff, but next day nothing again.
So the body was trained and is trained to very
carefully hold on to what it needs to sustain itself

(29:20):
during those periods. So when we go into a weight
loss program where we want to really get somewhere, ultimately
we have to reach a point where our body is
using the stores are fat that it has. And again
you can use it. There's a lot of different ways
to do it, but at the end of the day,
you're doing the same thing. You've got to get a

(29:40):
hold of that fat and use it instead of the
carbohydrates that the body really does like to use.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Absolutely one of the things that people ask all the time.
As I mentioned, I've tried to feel some time, there's
so many different ways to approach this a beautiful thing.
And also, I guess you could say that the complicated
thing about is that there are so many different ways
to tackle obesity. So I wanted to talk to you

(30:09):
about some of the different methods to tackle obesity because
it's not it's not a one size fits all approach.
There are meal replacements, which I did. There are some
people who just go to a low fat diet, there's
some people who need medical options. There are a number
of different ways to approach this. So I want to
talk to you about what are some of the different

(30:31):
ways that people can approach their weight loss and when
at what point do they should they consider switching to
a different option if it's not working.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Interestingly, when you are in a program whatever, and let's
just use a meal replacement program to start, Okay, what
is a meal replacement program? That's where you set a
color threshold that you're going to stay under each day, right,
and then you space out the food during the day
so that you can get through the day and not
go above that colorkat shoulder and still stay sane. It's

(31:02):
not fasting, And if you do it right, you're timing
those meal replacements in such a way as that the
body is able to use them and get you to
the next time that you can eat. And so that's
a very it's a very effective way, and a lot
of doctors use that with their patients. Now what happens

(31:24):
now is you have these GLP one or semi blue
tide medications that people can use, and you can use that,
but if you start losing weight and you don't increase
your activity level, you will plateau. So what happens People
reach a point where they go, I'm not getting anywhere.

(31:46):
I'm the one I'm supposed to be doing. Yeah, but
you haven't increased your activity. So one of our experts,
and she's really an amazing person, doctor Holly Lofton. She
has the patients that she will with. He has them
increase as they lose weight their activity because the body

(32:06):
becomes more efficient, you have more muscle, you have less fat,
you're able to but all of a sudden it becomes
more efficient. So you'll hit a flat. Now you've got
to ramp the activity. So one of the things Richard is, Okay,
if I'm hit a plateau, am I going to increase
my activity level to then get spark some continued weight loss.

(32:29):
Otherwise you need to consider other methods because at the
end of the day, not everybody can do the workouts,
not everybody is motivated that way. I did the numbers.
About fifteen to twenty percent of Americans have a gym membership,
but about five percent of Americans use that. Okay, So
it's you cannot buy wellness. You have to invest in

(32:53):
orders you can get it, and it is an investment,
and it isn't just necessarily money because really helped diet.
It's not always so easy because in the inner city
I'll give an good example where stores are easy to
get to, they fill those stores with sugary items, okay,
and the stuff that is really healthy is pretty expensive.

(33:15):
So one of the things that I think needs to
happen is we need to encourage actually the EBT cards. Right,
I'm advocating that for people who are buying vegetables from
a local grocer, a local farmer, or meat or fruit,
their dollar doubles because then the local farmer gets paid

(33:39):
twice as much the local grower, and meanwhile, I'm getting
a great deal for my dollar. Now, people love a
great deal for their dollar. I was a student at
UC Berkeley and this is one hundred years ago. In
nineteen seventy and I went on my spiritual quest and
I started a food bank in East Oakland, which I

(34:00):
did for seven years. And I ran that program for
seven years and it was so great. It was such
an awesome experience. We gave away millions of pounds of
food and it was always free when I was doing it.
So when I left, the fellow who took over from me, Jeff,
he said, we got to support this. So we're going
to charge ten cents a pound, no more, but ten

(34:21):
cents a pound. Now, when I ran it, the way
you got food was you volunteered. But not everybody was
willing to do that and spend the time. But people
knew a good bargain. So I can get good, healthy
food for ten cents a pound, I'm going to get it.
So in the same way, if we can use programs
that are already in place, and this is a little

(34:42):
bit off the target, but anyway I want to get
on the record, we can do something like this where
your EBT card has twice the value if you're buying
from a local farmer or grower. And then if you
do it in the supermarket, the supermarkets aren't going to
really like it. But the reality is it's going to
be a limited amount of competition that the local guys

(35:03):
are able to really create. But the power of the
dollar is the power of the I always call money
like gravity. You just can't escape it. And if I
can get twice as much for for what I'm spending.
And the reality is, locally grown food isn't always the
least expensive because it's hard to do it and when
you're you don't have big farms and all the ability

(35:26):
to scale. So it's one of the things that I'd
love to see and be part of. The other is
people are now waking up to. I can't believe how
much people are waking up to the whole thing about
ultra processed foods. Okay, now, whenever that whenever you go
into this whole witless wellness journey, like yeah wellness lifestyle,

(35:48):
they tell you shop the edges of the grocery store
because that's where all the fruits and vegetables are, that's
where the meats are and the dairy and then stay
out of the middle, whereas where all the highly processed
foods are not always that way because they put the
bakeries there they put these gross Now, yeah, they'll trip
you up. So just like you said, so, my wife

(36:09):
and I shop together and it's not always the moment
of perfect harmony, right because we're holding each other accountable
for what we're buying. So one of the things that
people can do is shop with their accountability coach. That way,
what's coming to the house is what should be coming
in the house. And then and then you can support

(36:30):
each other, encourage each other, and and inspire each other.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
You've told them out thunder for my next question, because
one of the things that is a huge inhibitor is
when you have distractions within the household if you're on
a wellness journey. Now I'm not saying that everyone in
the house has to be on a on a meal plan,
but you can't be introduced to things that are unhealthy

(36:57):
when you're trying to stay focused on a willness drink.
And it's a very difficult conversation to have with your
loved ones. One of the things that we have as
a habit in this country is that we celebrate with food.
Think about all of the occasions weddings, birthdays, graduations, holidays,

(37:18):
family visits. We do what we eat.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
And drink and which alcohol you can in modration, it's
up to you. But alcohol is full of one thing, carbohydrates.
So now you drink, you drink it your nice wine
or whatever, and then you're challenge down on some food
that has got a lot of high fat. Those two

(37:42):
to go together. So the body is saying, oh, thanks
for all the carb hydrates, which is what the alcohol
is made of, the potatoes. But then let's put some
gravy on it. All that stuff so your self sabotage.
So one of the things you can learn how to
do is you can portion control, because this is the thing.
Actually Kevin belluted to it on his little segment the
Food He Stay Fit Kevin Valley, he said, you can

(38:04):
have an oreo or something like that. You're not going
to throw yourself off if it's one oreo. It's one thing.
If it's oreos. And that's the thing is that if
you have the ability to eat one and one and done,
and that's one thing. But most people one or that
is not get it. And having their spouse or the
other people in the house support them is. And it's

(38:27):
hard to it's hard to say, guys, I'm dealing with this.
You I need your support, whether they're challenging down on whatever,
they're challenging down on right. And so it's one of
these things where we all have to get aware of it.
It isn't just the individual who's dealing with it. And
so the other thing is what you Richard, is people

(38:48):
to express love with food, giving someone food. Oh, I
cooked this for you. It's so beautiful and I know
it's your favorite dish. And what do you say, No,
it's not in my diet. You can't say that she's
done it or he's done or whatever. And all of
a sudden, you don't want to reject their love because
that's a love offering. The challenge, again, is for education,

(39:09):
and that's where what we're doing. The Huddle is all
about educating the public about techniques and really habitual behavior.
And Richard, you just pointed out one huge one. When
yours partner is expressing their love through food that is
not healthy, that is self defeating, and it's a form

(39:31):
of sabotage because you've got this horrible decision. Do I
reject the offering and their love or do I simply
eat it? And then I've lost three days my progress there.
I tried for many years a kito diet, very unsuccessful.
Here are a biglio diet for me because I would

(39:53):
get enormous cravings. The one thing I would say is
that I've learned that when you eat protein act of
the thermogenic effect of food. Right protein, When you eat protein, okay,
thirty percent of the energy in the foods you're eating
is used up in eating that protein. So now that's interesting.

(40:15):
So if I use a small amount of protein, it's
even a lesser amount of calories than what I eat
because fundamentally, the body doesn't want to eat protein. Your
muscles are made out of protein. It's like the last
food source your body wants to go through. So when
you go through a starvation process, the first three to
four days, you're going through all the carbs. You're done.

(40:37):
Then you go into your fat. Then your body flips
into a keytoteesis and it uses fat.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Men.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Meanwhile, at the end of that road is your body
starts eating its muscle. And the thing you need to
realize is that if I carefully use protein in my diet,
doesn't have to be meat, but it can be. And
I'm a meat eater. I have a problem with it.
You can actually it's a good if you will. You
can have a little more because it's protein and you
have to eat it. But if you combine fats with it,

(41:07):
a lot of carbohydrates of it so great. I got
a nice pieces of little piece of steak here, But
if I put my potatoes and my gravy on it,
a little piece of steak didn't even matter. I eat steam,
vegetables and I have my miracle noodles and a little
sauce on it. Whatever. So that's the kind of learning

(41:29):
you have to do to be able to trick the
body and keep the body. You train to maintain and
that's a big part of what we really try to
offer people is training and maintain because hundred diferent ways
to lose weight, all of them have their good sides
and bad sides. But now with these new medications, you
people losing weight that literally struggled for their entire lives

(41:53):
were able to. But it's not all roses and peches.
But there are a lot of people don't feel well
when they're on it, or have trouble going to the
bathroom or this sort of thing. But those drugs treat
the brain. They treat the brain process along with the
digestion process and the way your body mapulations food to
it's a multi prong attack. You can do the same

(42:15):
thing if you build an offense with all the right ingredients.
So as you go through a wellness program that allows
you to lose weight, you want to establish a team
that is part of your living a bitual behavior going forward.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Absolutely, and this is one of the things that Coach
Wheeler pointed out guys that tuned into the show what
she was on here. She and her husband Quentin, they
had bypass surgery. But in addition to that, it's more
than just a surgery because people fail with the bypass surgery,
so you have to change the way that you eat
in order for it to be successful. So that was

(42:52):
a journey. She talked about the fact that when she
started her journey first and Quenton was bought in, So
she's trying to eat. I think she's eating salad, and
he's coming in with burgers and fries and hey, here,
try some of this, and so that was a battle.
Me personally, I experienced some of somewhat of a battle.
Put my wife on glast here and it's not as
though she was being benefitive, it's that sometimes you forget

(43:17):
about your loved one's journey. And she likes to go out.
She likes to she's new to the city. She moved
here to be with me in Houston, and so she's
trying to get her feet under her as a Houstonian
and trying to get out and do things. And I'm
trying to avoid going out as much because I know
when I go out, I eat, so I'm being a
homebody and she's being trying to get out more. So

(43:38):
there was a bit of that back and forth. I
having to say, not only has she brought in, she's
lost fifty pounds as well or her journey. So this
is what it's like when you have that teamwork approach
where there have been days where I was like, you
know what, I'm gonna go to get me a Burger's.
I know you're not. And there's been days that I've

(43:59):
held her so habits that support system, especially within the house.
You're critical and it's an uncomfortable conversation, but it needs
to be had because at the end of the day,
when you understand why, it motivates you to get through
those tough times in those rough times and ultimately I
want to do this because I want to be here
longer for her and vice versa. Yeah, so please, by

(44:22):
all means, definitely had a conversations with your partner. Deputize
your partner to be your accountability coach, because that's going
to be critical if you to be successful in your Turney.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
It's a delicate balance in a relationship. It's not easily accomplished,
but it's critical. It really is critical because otherwise you're
constantly faced with choices that are overwhelming, and you don't
want to put it on the other person that you're
the reason I'm not succeeding in this. But at the
same time, if they do help you, you're the wind

(44:54):
beneath my wings. You're making it happen. And in my case,
k watch me lose my weight. It wasn't until she
had this aha moment after she had her brain search
and then she went looked at the mirror and went,
I'm obese, like duh. But I could never say to her, darling,

(45:17):
what happened?

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Right?

Speaker 4 (45:19):
It was it because even after it and I watched
this one Megan Kelly show, and she had a young
woman had lost two hundred and thirty five pounds on
a meal replacement program, and her mother saw her lose
all that weight. Her mother was clearly needed to address
the issue herself. It didn't dawn on her till her

(45:39):
daughter had lost all of that weight. That was something
she should do. And it was like, so part of
it is when you're with somebody all the time, it
doesn't hit strike you. When you see somebody Richard, who
knew you when you were found twenty five plus pounds.
Now they go, what happened? It disappeared?

Speaker 7 (46:01):
Man?

Speaker 4 (46:01):
But and again you your spirit is so much brighter.
That's the thing about getting control in this area of
your life. You're more optimistic in your mindset because now
this demon that's been tracking you for all these years.
I every New Year's I always read wrote, I'm going
to be one hundred and eighty pounds of this and

(46:22):
it's never got control until I actually I had a
doctor reach out to me over LinkedIn and said, hey,
you want to try this, dude, you own a wellness company.
You've better get her to the control of this. So
he coached me. It worked and it was simple, but
it was a challenge. And again during that period k
wasn't on it. I went through my whole weight loss

(46:43):
program and then it was So everybody has to get
the tumor in their brain out, if you know what
I'm saying. So you can't do that to somebody you
consider a great example, and they can actually be read
to support you. But at the end of the day,
everybody has to have their own time to what they
can sell with it, and they do it. Richard, in
that green room, you made up your mind. But you

(47:05):
made up your mind because you really love winning. I'm sorry,
you love her, your wife, and it was a motivator
for you to set that goal to be able to achieve.
And you've done it and now this is an actual
part of everything you're doing, which is so exciting.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
To use another football now, g one of the things
that you know as fans, we are all in tune
with stats, and I think the same is true with wellness,
but unfortunately we don't have enough detail as it pertains
to stats. The one stat that everybody focuses on is
the W word. It's the way, yeah, But there are

(47:42):
other measurables that are key key performance indicators as it
pertains to your willness.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
So talk to you much more important as your percent
body fat, because if you're muscular, you will quote a
quote be obese on the BMI scale, and you're not.
And there are people that are skinny fat, which means
they're actually skinny, but they actually have a lot of fat,
which is wait a minute, what's that? But that's the reality.

(48:08):
So percent we like to use percent body fat. If
you're going to focus on a single kbi, now the
reality is you've got blood pressure, you got all these
other lipid levels and also on that can be part
of the things you measure, and particularly a one C.
People don't realize that they can cure type two diabetes
by getting control of their weight. Cure it. Never have

(48:29):
to deal with your friend then you mentioned cured it,
he got rid of it, and that is Diabetes is
a train wreck for your body, it really is. And
to be on those medications and to be in that
situation not easy. So we're getting close, Richard, You're going
to do a wrap up here.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Absolutely, to just touch on that T is food for thought.
If you go based upon BMI only, I think everyone knows.
Dwayne Johnson aka The Rock. If you based upon be
and my only he's more of the le obese. I
think it's pretty fair to say that it's not the case.
That's not the case. It is always and will continue

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