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Welcome to Wellness Jocks, where athletes meets wellness Innovations, starring
rich Walker and Russ Allen.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Good morning everyone, My name is Richard Walker. Where it
was placed to have you here another Saturday morning, and
I am here today with a very dear friend of mine,
mister Russ Allen, a k a. The Willderness Crash Dummy,
and he is here to enlighten us on so many
different topics as it could take us to the battle
against sobs. The Russ stakes for joining us today.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Richard, as you say, we're dear friends, and this is
such a joy to be able to spend this time
with you. And the people are often to ask Russ,
how did you get that name? So why don't we
start with that?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And absolutely yeah, I'm sure everyone's listening wants to know
who is the Willness crash Dummy? Right any why are you?
Why should we listen to a dummy?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
The answer is, Richard, I have. I've been a businessman
since I was twelve, and I always felt tremendous responsibility
to bring home the bacon. And honestly, by the time
I was thirteen, my parents were borrowing money from me
because we didn't have a lot, and I worked real hard,
and as I raised my family, I put a lot
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of pressure on myself. So I had a lot of
pressure in my life and as a result, I ended
up with a heart attack in my early fifties and today,
the more I learned about these things, the more that
your internal state can affect tremendously the hormonal cascade of
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events that happens in your body and the metabolic results
of that kind of stress. So I ended up with
two stamps in my heart and that wasn't much fun.
And I started to look around and say, it's time
to take some changes because if I didn't, life was
going to deal with me. And so I ended up
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changing my career and went in in about twenty ten
to really the wellness business. And so I've been involved
in wellness for the last but thirteen years and have
learned a lot. My background in college was I was
an exercise physiology and psychology major at UC Berkeley in California,
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and I was intrigued with healing and health and actually
was thinking I was going to go originally into medicine.
Then when I found out that medicine wasn't interested in me,
because medicine that stage is like nineteen seventy two and three.
I remember my first aid UCLA. They brought everybody that
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was pre med into a meeting and they said, everyone
is here that wants to go into medicine because you
want to help your fellow man in their moment of need.
And I was in the second row having a Sally
Field moment, waving my hands. That's me and that's me.
He said, met us is a business. We don't care
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what your motivation is, and we're going to get rid
of everyone that doesn't fit our mold. And I did
the instant equation, and I realized that I shouldn't let
the door hit me in the butt. So I ended
up transferring from UCLA to Berkeley. And in my junior year,
I had been a volunteer on campus trying to learn
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about physical therapy and the different departments in the hospital.
And met up with a couple of guys who are students,
but they lived in wheelchairs because they were They had
broken their necks and so they were trauma badriplegic. One
had broken his neck in a football game in San
Francisco and the other had broken his neck. He was
a world class high jumper, and he flipped his van
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down near San Diego, and Tim and Bill and Russ
moved into a house together four blocks off Telegraph Avenue.
So I played the good wife and did the cooking
and the cleaning in the shop, and they paid the
rent because they had Social Security money coming because they
were severely disabled. And that was right at the point
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when America was beginning to mainstream severely disabled. So I'd
had a Forest Gump moment and I did. I was
at the city and said, got the first eighty a
laws enacted in the state of California, And yeah, I
don't know if you've ever been around someone with for
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ebel palsy, but they have a seizure that results from
that condition, so they have these aspastic movements that quite
honestly make people pretty uncomfortable. So one of the assemblymen
in the state of California was dragging his feet on
this legislation, so we pulled him out of his chair
and left him in front of the door of that assemblyment.
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Leaderss to say that law got an active faster than
any law in the history the state of California. And
I went on from there to actually starting a little
company to build equipment for me enabling a disabled person
to do whatever they needed to do. And they I
would sit down with them and they tell me I
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wanted to be able to take a leek or I
want to be able to open that door. They wanted happiness,
they wanted to film it in a career. They wanted
to feel good about getting up every day. And all
of that doesn't change if you have a traumatic accident.
And so as I began to look at that, my
guess spiritual went off on my quest and ended up
living like a monk and ran started a food bank
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that I ran for seven years in East Okeland, And
so I was a little white kid right around these
boat Clifton and I would go and arrange for farmers
and wholesalers to give us donations a quote, and we
ended up shipping food all over the world and it
was a great experience. So my life, as it took
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this change, I started looking for more and more solutions.
Meanwhile my own health, I had gained a lot of weight.
I had sleep avenue for gosh, thirty years, thirty five
years now, which is in itself a very It's a
difficult thing people don't realize so serious for some people. Anyway,
I would sleep apne. I would literally get so tired.
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If I had lunch, I had to stand up the
rest of the afternoon because I was getting so little
sleep at night, I'd literally fall asleep sitting down.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, and when you're driving a car that's extremely dancy,
absolutely four kids in them. So anyway, I faced all that,
went through that art attack, and then subsequent to that,
had another heart So I've had two of them, and
I will tell you neither one were fun and I survived,
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fortunately thank got both of them. But in the process,
I began to learn more and more about what's going
on with my body and how to change my life
going forward. And so that said, I still lived like
this kind of wild young guy as I got older.
It didn't change. People They look at me and they go,
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you're seventy hour. It just doesn't wash because my energy
ever turned down. I don't know what the problem is.
But so as I began to learn more and more,
things began to change. But also I had to because
I had the heart disease. I had to deal with
medications and a diminishing strength in my heart. So I
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was fortunate to be able to connect with a wonderful
doctor who used a device on me called external counterpulsation.
And that device you lay on it and it basically
has a routine. It runs, and it was able to
strengthen my heart muscle and open up much of the
vessels in my home. And so I began to recover
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and began to look for more and more ways to
do that. Now, in the process of developing heart disease,
they begin to give you all these medications you don't
really know white all you need to know. And I
was prescribed one medication that I was supposed to be
taking it twice a day, and I was only taking
it once. So in my late sixties, I was diagnosed
(09:15):
with prostate cancer. And this was an interesting moment because
I had a PSA that was elevated. So I went
to the doctor and said what do I do? He said,
you're watching you wait and wait for what you wait
for the cancer to get bad enough, we can do
so for you.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Wow, And I said, there you go.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I felt like a cow at a feed line and wait.
Butcher went through the whole thing. Things got worse. I
tried this tree bark from New Mexico, different extrasmes. I
tried everything to not have a radiation treatment or a surgery.
Things did get worse and ended up doing twenty eight
(10:00):
rounds of radiation. Now I will tell you that's not
something that you really want to look forward to. And
as a result of that, of course, as you age
and lay that on with some heart disease and high
blood pressure and everything else, you inevitably develop ed. I
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don't for a minute understand the complexity of the human body.
And what I've grown to learn is nobody else says
either pieces of it. And that's why doctors specialized, because
it gets so complex and so evolved that they really
can't And of course that's why we go to medical specialists.
Problem is you don't get to see those guys to
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prevent the disease. You get to see those guys when
the intern is general practitioner says, yeah, you got this,
go zm or and that's a little thing. And so
what I insided was, well, then what we need is
a business, a wellness model that incentivize physicians to keep
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us well. It pays them more to do that. Then
wait until we're Sitlet's move the cheese from herror over
to here. And that seems like this most obvious thing
to do, and it is. You know, you look at
the nation of Japan. They see the doctor four times
more often, and they spend one seventh what America does,
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and their healthcare one more time. They see the doctor
four times more, but they spend one seventh what America does.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Because they're more focus on the front end.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
They prevent the disease formation and they lived five years longer. Now,
you have a genetically selected pool of people and they
live on an islands, so they're big on fish and
doing a lot of healthy things, and Americans aren't. Our
health is somewhere in the lower middle and not really
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in the middle. We're Americans are not healthy people. In fact,
we're dying younger as we go.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, So this is an interesting dynamic that you brought
up for us the unfortunate state of affairs as it
pertains to the overall way that we approach wellness in America.
There's that dynamic of the cost factor, which unfortunately we're
at the versity of the insurance companies and they have
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a business that they run where they collect the premials
and they want to do whatever they can for the
long game to premit you from cashing in and utilize
the benefits. So what is it that we can do
as Americans to turn the boat. What is it that
we can do on a personal basis to improve our
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overall wellness.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
With that in mind, let me add something to what
you just said. To start. Insurance companies by legislative action
could only make more money based on the gross not
on a net profit basis. So what do I mean
by that? Means the only way they make more money
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is you spend more. They can't increase their margin. That's
fixed supposedly, I don't believe it. But so they're incentivized
for their costs to go up. Is if they want
to make more money, the costs got to go up, right,
So if you're fixed at three percent, you're at one
hundred million, you're three million dollars rappit, right, but fixed.
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But if you're a billion, then it's all good. So
it's even broken that way, Richard. That was to your
point the insurance companies, and they're not incentivized because people
change their insurance company every two years two to three
years on average, So they don't even do long term
thinking around you because you're not gonna be around. So
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everything is in this financial model that works against the
interests of the individual. In fact, I came up with
what I hope will be adopted although I'm not a
doctor by healthcare professionals as a new oath and it's
do what is optimal. Doctors used to be the highest
rated trusted people in America, and now they're way down
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there at carsills. So everybody goes and asks the nurse
because she has no financial interest in what's going on.
So they used her as the fly in the wall.
If doctor leaders their room, they paid the nurse and
started and they're trained not to answer questions.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
And I think that's the fuel behind your vision and
your passion, and that's also the motivating factor. I think
that encourages you to reach out to help others. So
fast forward and you and I be at the radio
road during the Super Bowl in Los Angeles when the
Rams and the Bengals met. And at this point in
my life, I am well over four hundred and twenty pounds,
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Like I had a scale that stopped at around four
twenty and what I stepped on it, he used to
say error, So I'm not even sure what the actual
number was. I know that I weighed more than I
was over the four twenty because my scale stopped working.
So I'm walking through the damn you know, the area
the radio. The green room where all the radio talents
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go to take a break and eat snacks, and they
serve lunch and all that stuff. So all the get
Care had like a while bag and we just got
out to here and I'm starving and I'm just taking
whatever I can get my hands on. All the chips, cooked,
these crackers, candy, you name it. I got. I had
well cargo, I remember I had on. I had cargo
pants on, and I had pockets everywhere, and like each
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pocket was like filled with all types of goodies. And
if you remember that the cartoon series The Grinch, when
he stole all the food from the villagers, That's that's
how I was behaving to the green room, like I
was just taking here for myself, soda cans in my pockets,
all kind of stuff, and out the corner because this
guy approaches me and I'm like, he's gonna bust me
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for taking all the food to what And so we
just started talking and the entire conversation was just centered around, Hey,
this is what I do. I run a wellness program.
Would you be interested to enjoy it? And for the
back of my head, I was like, hey, this is
something that I really need to do because I tried
and filled so many times or so many different fan dies,
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and I tried everything I knew I needed to lose
the weight, but I just didn't have an actual game play.
But going through the wellness challenge and going through having
all the different seentsus the high blood pressure, I had
recurring gout issues. I was actually in the middle of
a gout attack when I got back on the air.
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I couldn't even walk to the car. It took me
like an hour to make what should have been like
a ten minute walk because I had a gout attack
that happened while I was on the air. After eating
all that junk food, eating the two or three steaks,
I was a soda add it. I was so bad.
I would have three twelve packs of soda and I
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would refuel every week. So every Sunday I'd go to
the store and buy three twelve packs, one for the
car and one for the house, one for the office.
That's how bad it was. So through the course of
the wellness program that Russ and I worked on, I
was able to educate myself, motivate myself, keep myself on track,
and lose ninety one pounds in just over six months,
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and immediately all of the comorbidity start going away. My
blood pressures drop. I go to my doctor and he's
what the heck are you doing? Man? Whatever, it is
great because I'm going to take this blood pressure medicine
away for me. I run a blood panel, which I
had no idea I was pre diabetic, and my A
one C dropped below five point seven, which is back
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to a nogo state. I haven't had a gallon of tack, says.
Then I say that to say that the intervention literally
changed the course of me because we tried everything from
even from a medical perspective. They changed my dosages from
my blood pressure. I was selling and my wife and
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I were joking about the other day. She was like,
when I had all the text, they would just treat
me with the steroid packs. So they were just prescribed
and stereoid packs, and I would say some for later. Okay,
I'm feeling a little better now, let me say these
four or five steroid tablets in case I have a
really bad way of getting down the road. So the
case I'll have time to go to the doctor. So
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I would run around town with steroid tablets in a
car in case I need to pop a couple of
them when my knee or my ankle starts acting up again.
Having a change in nutrition, there's definitely a correlation between
that and your willness. I was speaking for Testamon. Can
you can you speak on that where it's about the
correlation between what we eat and our willness.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, let me address something else, Richard. What really worked
was you had a coach, Yes, and it changed the dynamic.
If you try, and I will tell this everybody that's listening,
if you try to diet on your own, try to
change your behavior around food on your own, your chances
are one in ten of succeed. The skill you should
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have been looking at was your percent body right. All
of those loss and coal morbidities fundamentally is because you
would reduce your body fit and that's the real gold
standard for understanding how healthy you are. And what I
would will tell you is that when you look at
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a percent body fat, but you're really looking at is
how much fathers around your organs. And to improve that
lowers all those coal morbidities that you develop that result
from the number one thing we can do, and that
I focus on the reverse financial and really do the
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sad the condition of Americans is to focus on weights.
But from a point of view of coaching, I don't
want to get you know, there are now these amazing
medications that are coming out. They have some issues, but
for the most part, people are having remarkable results. Historically,
what we did through the Wellness Challenge was we used
a meal workplacement that works, and then people have used
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just no whole food diets that they reduce their caloric
intake and adjusted things. So all of those can work.
But you need a coach, and you need to be trained,
and need to be held accountable, and you need to learn,
and then you can establish behavioral changes that will sustain you.
It's one of the things, right, I don't want to
talk out of school here, but when you stop doing
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certain things, you found some of that weight again here
it did. So what I've been working all the last
two years is a train to maintain prob because I
hit my you know, I hit one hundred and five
pounds and I've stayed within five pounds of that for
two years. And I eat a lot, but I learned
how to eat in ways. Now people look at me
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and said, well, so you could still lose a couple
of walks. Don't stop.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
What I am doing now is I'm using some supplements
I've learned about that are actually converting more and more
of my body to muscle. So as you get more musculature,
you're able to actually enjoy food more because you burned more.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Well.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Being active is no big deal because you just naturally
want to go and do things, and you don't feel
like you're gonna slot it out and push this old
donkey up the hill, but instead you can enjoy getting
around it like and doing it all.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Hey, I agree with you. I used the mindset that
in regardless to a wilderness miss it, we should reach
for the stars. And you may never touch that star,
but if you reach the top of the mountain in
the process, you're a heck of a lot better off
than you were in the valley.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Much better healthy overweight than being obese. Absolutely, and that's
really when you trip that switch and you head into obesity,
the springs start flying. Absolutely, that's really true. True, It's
really fundamentally true.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
And also you spoke on the fact that I did
deviate from the principles that got me to the ninety
one pound weight loss, But it was very easy to
get back on the wagon once your coach. Players are
going to make mistakes where people ever, people are gonna
make mistakes. People are going to deviate from the script.
That's just in life. Everyone has a discipline threshold, everyone
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has a compliant stresshold. But when you have that little
voice in the back of your head, or sometimes it's
literally the voice in your ear, in your ear of
a coach saying, hey man, what are you doing? Oh,
you know what, You're right, and you get back on course.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So that's what Let's go back and cover the basics.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
What do you do right? Drink? We're here to support you,
get you through the tough times and the rough times.
L's one of the the monikers that ourself shall say
that you go by as the willness crash gummy talking
that you've been on the show before, talking about your
media experiences with your own health issues, and then all
show your passion for pursuing health and wells for others.
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This is a very ffyfical subject, especially for men, because
we'll talk about it. There's a group of men who
have ed, and then there's a group of men who
lie about not having d and it's just it. That's
just the way it is. And there's a core morbidity.
There's a correlation, I should say, between your overall willness
and erectileness function. You have taken on the Moniker as
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the count unquote albart Stern of Ed, which I think,
So tell us about Ed, tell us about what? What
are you aware of it? And what do we need
to know about it?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Thank you Richard, and thank you howarded, because the thing
about Irish Journey's been fearlessly talking about one subject for
about fourty and I'll tell you why not. I'm seventy
years old. I'm going to put it out there. Erectile
dysfunction ed, whatever you want to call it, Limp Larry,
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it's all. There is something, interestingly enough that has actually
gotten worse while as America has gotten down the road,
and what used to be something men in their seventies
and eighties would have to address, we have men in
their forties now on thirties, even men in their twenties
who are dealing with erect heil dysfunction. I've done a
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study of it, and I've identified over twenty things that
can give you a rectile dysfunction. Interestingly enough, and I
was just reading listening to podcast today, it hormones, which
everybody thinks is the cause of a rectiulis function, but
is responsible for about three percent of a rectolis function. Now,
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what would you say to if I told you the
number one thing is diabetes?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Really?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh yeah, fifty percent I'm in with diabetes have rectals function.
The other half lie about it. So it's it is
a fair foul impact on your body when you have diabetes.
And what is the number one cause of diabetes in
this country? Oh be sa tea right. So the golden
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gift of obesity is elliptic. It really is a rectilise function.
And so what's what's hopeful is that by happling your obesity,
you actually liberate your ability, in many cases, to have
a joyful life of healthy sex.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Now, a lot of the.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Drugs that are used to treat the cod morbidities of
obesity cause ED. Probably the number two is heart high
blood pressure. Is when a man reports CD to a doctor,
the first thing he wants to do is check his
heart disease. One of the earliest symptoms of heart disease
is a rectile dysfunction. So when you started adding up
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and then quite honestly, men they don't want to talk
about it, but performance and anxiety becomes to be its
own triggering event to cause a rectile dysfunction. Interesting, now,
so we self sabotage because we can't achieve proper erection
and we can't have full intercourse. So then guess what
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You've prophesied your own doom. So what I've learned about it,
what I'm learning about it is and again my need
really didn't start until I went through my proseit cancer. Somehow,
twenty eight thousand bouts of radiation. You come out the
other end with all kinds of things not working, one
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of which is the direction, but a lot else didn't work.
You have urinary function issues and obviously being able to
hold your whatever, just can't make it to the bathroom
in time, and all kinds of things. And unfortunately, the
ninety plus percent of men, if they live long enough,
will develop process cancer. The inevitability for men, and seventy
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percent of men at seventy have the d to start with,
even without the coorbidity, because the vessels weaken, the herd weakens.
What has What's interesting about the erectile function is it's
like you've got a road. Then there's all these lights
in the road. Yes, for all the work, all those
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lights have to be in the green. So what we do,
of course, as we get older, is you start hitting
those yellows and there's some boy you just get the
red and it ain't gonna work, And so you begin
to and which red light. It depends on where you're
at in your life. But what you can be certain
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of is if you're OBEs, you are fighting city all
from the goat because you have a high risk of
diabetes heart diabetes three to four times a risk for
heart disease. Diabetes an ED, it's the same word. They
call it diabeesity. Type two diabetes is the result of
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in ninety percent of the cases, obesity. So part of
the best way to treat your ED is to lose your.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Weight, right. I tacked the underlying cause absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Now there are other treatments you can do, and I've
gone through some of them. There's a sound wave therapy
that they treat the vessels around the growing area and
on the penis, and they open up those vessels to
make sure that the blood is growing properly. The other
thing was use it or lose it if you stop.
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And at different times in our life, my case with
protistate cancer, they give you a hormone that drops your
testosterone to single digits to me, and the goal is
to prevent answer for the progressive.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
And would I'm just thinking out loud as well. When
you're obese, you're probably less likely to engage in a
physical activity like sex. So your amount of shall we say,
full contact or the not only the frequency but also
the length of it is shortened because you just you're obese.
(29:58):
You can't just can't perform like that. So wouldn't that
Also it's like an avalanche or effect where you gain weight,
you start to have the real life issue as you mentioned,
then you don't have a lack of frequency, which it
just kind of continues to revolve itself.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
All that and as your bodies slow down, which happens
when you're obese, flow in your vessels slow also calcify
those vessels, and again all of which creates the inability
of the penis to normally respond to stimulation. Nothing is more.
(30:37):
The brain is your number one sexual and if you
don't feel confident either an initiating sex or completing it.
Guess what you are going to sabotage it? Tie it again.
And just as you mentioned, if you're obese, you don't
feel that confidence. So even if every of a plumbing
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is all working, let's just give that, the brain is
still gonna nail you because you're just you're not going
to get the arousal is. You're gonna be worried about
what is she thinking? Or I can't or I can't breathe.
I can't, you know, because or I can't exert myself
as I normally would to create the friction to make
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the magic happen. My heart won't hold up. And what
they say, talk to your doctor, make sure you're helving
up for sexual activity. They're not kidding. That is one
of those barriers is that your actual physical health can
prevent you from being able to achieve erection and complete
the sexual function. So and you're missing a lot of
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good stuff. Life is meant to be joyful throughout and right, honestly,
that's part of it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
So this is a very touchy and uncomfortable subject. So
how do you approach you? We'll start with the fillis,
because of course we're difficult. How to get to a
point where you except that, all right, well, I have
a problem, so that the God asked listening that you know, I.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Had to reach a point where, first of all, I
was ready to tell myself, I get a problem and
I got to deal with it. And given that I'm
involved in the walls industry and I just run my
mouth non stop anyway was okay, Alan, you got to
deal with the fact that things aren't happening. And because
I was taking this armor suppression for two years, Richard,
(32:30):
two years, I had a hormone testoteral level in the
single digits. Normally you want to be in the seven
under eight thousand, but I had seven.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, And remarkably things sometimes even work wow, not always
into the last and then obviously as you get older.
So what I've learned though, is that you can recover
This is the most spiring part of the whole thing,
is that you can recover sexual function. Not everybody, but
(33:06):
you've got to find out which of those lights has
gone red and which ones are yellow, and which ones
aren't even on the road because you're not even looking
that far. Now, I would encourage there are doctors who
are specifically involved in sexual help, and I'm seeing one.
She's a seventy year old lady from WordNet from Jamaica,
(33:30):
wonderful gal, lover and no nonsense, smartest whip and is
really straightforward with me and very helpful. And I'm very
fortunate to have found her. And you've got to find
somebody that is your coach, you know, Richard. When she
saw my survey, when I first went to her, and
it was like, you have this scoring thing and it's
(33:53):
probably one to ten and if your score like twenty
or that is, we got a shot here. At thirty,
I was a score of about six.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Side was really really.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I wasn't gonna lie to her, and I wasn't go
lie to myself, so that we just a quick side note.
My wife of forty one years, right after she quit
her law practice, she found out she had a brain
children and fortunately he was not cancerous and they were
able to remove it. But after they removed it, she
(34:32):
looked in the mirror and she went, I'm obese, and
she made up her mind that she was going to
lose that weight, and she went and lost seventy pounds
at seventy years old.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Incredible, but she.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Had to lose her brain children, because that mental block
that's in our minds is a big part of what
we have to address. So whether it's your obesity or
your ed or whatever else is holding your health back,
you have to be you have to be frank with yourself.
And again, having a coach, whether it's just weight loss
(35:07):
or in wellness, is an extremely valuable thing. Now we
tell people, take your body fat, that be your weight,
cut it in half, and drink that many ounces of water. Okay,
So Richard, you should have been drinking like two hundred
and fifteen ounces of.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Water, right you were.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
It was all terrible soda. It's a pride, right great,
It wasn't water, and it wasn't just nonploric, it wasn't anything.
It was remotely healthy.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So great.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Part of what helped you lose all the weight you did,
you stopped drinking all that. So that was like number
one in my name, I stopped drinking in the alcohol.
Help me lose weight, help me keep it all Because
alcohol is basically sugar. So part of what we train
you to understand is the cycle of sugar in your body,
(35:59):
and that's that to evolve for this conversation. But your
body runs on sugar. That's it's natural fuel called gekos,
but it's sugar. And everything in processed foods is some
form of sugar. They go it enriched wheat, flour and
this thing and that, but it's really sugar. Now, the
(36:22):
interesting thing is your body has different energy sources protein, carbohydrates,
and fat, and we teach you about those things, and
we teach you about protein timing, We teach you about hydration,
We teach you about night stress eating. We teach you
all those sakes.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
So you've mentioned you actually did mention the importance of
managing intate to make a pun of it. So you
have to manage your sugar if you want to get
some sugar. That's right. It's interesting that no one really
highlights the correlation between these three monsters, so to speak.
(36:59):
You have the high blood pressure, I has to say
the blood sugar regulation issue. You have the obesity issue.
And in that those two monsters FEEDD. They're very heavily.
I would never have thought that the number one reason
for v D would be obesity, and I think there
should be a lot of awareness around it.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
The reality is obesity causes high blood pressure. What you
get is another major culprit. It creates a higher risk
for our disease. Another major culture. There are two hundred
colabidities of obese two hundred. So basically, if you want
your engine to quit working, you could pour some sand
in or just get it over pretty much it. So
(37:44):
that's what we have to learn is that and America
used to be a lot trimmer.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
What happened their lifestyles?
Speaker 2 (37:53):
So they must have passed out of fact bill because
since the sixties, remember Jimmy Stewart, it's a beautiful live
water fly or waters a whimp. What happened in the
sixties we started mass production of highly processed That's what happened.
So now I'll where there. We're eating that processed food
(38:17):
and it's causing so many of these problems to emerge.
So power train you to do is howat how when
did when to hydrate? How to deal with things? Look,
if you have some drinks, what do you do? I
just drank a bunch of sugar, so you hydrate more.
So yeah, we drink, you drink two glasses or whatever
(38:38):
of water of some kind. And and people don't they
go the other way. They start to think of the
water because they go they want more of that, and
the impact of the alcol a lot that I ever
did that, and.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
As the clients still need no way, in.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Fact is another big ed factor, another red light. And
Elzard drugs another red light. So supposedly good drugs, all
the bad drugs, it all screws up. So as you
learn where are the red lights? What is causing my idea,
first and foremost is your mental state, and it'll be
(39:16):
there at the last as well, because you've got to
get past the fact that you're dealing with it. So
that's like the first red light in your head. And
then at the end you've got to get past the
fact that you've struggled with it. And now you've got
to reapply yourself and deal with probably some moments of
failure or less than spectacular performance, and work with your
(39:38):
partner to find ways where now your body responds this
way is that The other thing is that I was
talking to my way the other about I said, honey,
used to be somebody shucked the door and the web.
(40:00):
So well, what we learn is that as we age,
everything changes, and you know, we have to be different
for our partner. You didn't need the same lover you
gotta be. And it's interesting because there are so many
things that change in her body and a ring and
her willingness and and again you know all of that.
(40:23):
I mean, you know the happens in this sequence of
green lights.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
So you get all the way up to that last light,
and if someone so on dark signe in front of
you as you're trying to cross the US. I think
that analogy is gonna stick with a lot of people.
It's gonna be driving through city traffic thinking what the
real lights? Man? This is a there's a reason why
they call you to oust the VD man. That's some
very eloquently put this whole dynamic between ed and obesity.
(40:56):
It's just it's just a crazy dark thing even think
about man too. We are talking today about our future,
the youth, the youth of amerror uh and we know
that Reesa's studies have shown that we have a very
significant issue with childhood obesity in a mirror studies showed
(41:17):
that on average right now, we're currently training at about
a forty percent obesity rate amongst our youth. So who
are broad Russey used to talk about this topic? So
russ tell us, what are your thoughts on The The
issue with that's how little BC in America today?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, about forty percent of our children are either overweight
or obese, twenty percent or in the obese range, and
as they get older, it goes to thirty percent of
adults are overweight, and now forty percent of adults are
in the obese range. So the question that comes to mind,
how is this happening? Why is this happening? Is there
(41:51):
something in the air. Did we drop a bomb somewhere
we didn't know it happened. The reality is, in about
nineteen sixty, we being the entered this hotty process into
the American diet and what we saw as a result
of that is a hockey stick of the average weight
of Americans go up. And when you start thinking about it,
(42:14):
when did McDonald's show, When did Duncan Dulgut show ring happen?
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Now, back then.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
You drove to McDonald's, who was a big thing. I
remember as a kid calling to McDonald's, this big thing
and got to get your shake and you get then
Wendy's opened up. Now a Wendy's frosty used to be
something you just about to have a cosmic experience eating.
The reason is that as seventeen sugar spoonfuls of sugar
(42:42):
in a small one, wow, in a small one, And
so you are mainlining sugar. And so what's happened is
are as parents. And I don't want to guilt trip
the parents, because we've all been led down the road
here by what I call the medical industrial complex. It's
(43:04):
give us the food, we get sick, fix us with
the medications, we get sicker, and it just goes around
and a running, and our costs of healthcare have gone
up right along with our weight. So our children now
today are the worst part is they're not nearly as active.
(43:24):
One of the things Richard, when you lose weight, people forget.
I have to become more active as I lose weight
or I won't continue to lose weight. That has been
the reality. Also, what we've got to learn is that
processed foods are the culprit our. Children need to learn
(43:46):
from their parents' example how to eat healthy. Otherwise do
as I say, not as I do will never work,
absolutely never work. And so as adults and as parents,
and it's just people in the community if they see
us chopping down on the bag of chips after we
ever soda, our big cheeseburger. What are they thinking. The
(44:10):
other things is that it becomes normative, meaning if everybody's
obese or overweight, then I'm just fitting in. And so
my family with Daddy and mommy are obese and overweight,
and it's just natural. I was in Arizona with the
Super Bowl last year. I worked a little bit with
the Indian tribes there and I learned that some of
(44:34):
the Native American communities, they have the highest rate of
diabetes in America and one of the highest rates in
the world. And the children in these tribes literally talk
about when they become diabetic. It's a discussion one as
it's simply inevitable in their life that they will become diabetic.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
That's so unfortunate. Yah, so unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, well, and creates a drug dependency, like it or
not that you have to be on a drug to
keep yourself from your limbs, from faring wealth, from going blind,
from your heart disease, for me, from the nerves stop
working in your feet, all those impacts of diabetes. And
what the most easy disease to cure it in this
(45:19):
country is to type two diabetes. And it is sort
of addressing the underlying cause of obese. So with our children,
what of the there's really a two proper attack you
got to have. What is they going to learn how
to eat it too? They got to increase their activity,
and the way to do it is you lead them
by example. And I'm sorry that's a terrible thing to say.
(45:41):
As a parent. I fall short on that many times
in my life have bests, art disease. You know why
am I the crash on me? If I gave you
the list of all the things. I've got two art attacks,
but a stroke, cancer. I've been all these differentalities during
my life, and many of them were stress related and
(46:02):
not eating prively. So as I've seen the light, so
to speak, that I'm learning every day. What I'm learning
is nothing impacts people like a good example.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Absolutely, and I think there are beyond just a poor
group of our youth. The future is impacted by this,
the pipeline for so many different caveats of society or
impacted by this. One of course, is the US military.
And I recently saw a ted X talk that General
(46:35):
Mark Hurtling did where he who literally said that the
obesity issue with our youth is a concern of national defense.
He feels as though it is a national defense threat
to us because the future pipeline soldiers is very quickly diminishing.
And he expressed that currently the US Army is seen
(46:59):
about sixty percent rate of people who wanted a list
of the military who simply can't because they're obese. And
we're talking young men and women around the age of
eighteen to twenty. They want to listen to the military,
but they can't. And it starts with them being obese's children.
They grow through their teen and puberty years and their
abe says young adults, and they're unfit.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
To serve because of that, and they cannot be on
any kind of medications and serve because you're going to
be ready to go into battle if you're in the military.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
It's just not so.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yes, I think it's a huge problem with and honestly,
the more where OBEs, the more are cognitive function diminishes.
It's not good for the brain, and it's obviously not
good for our bodies and are longevity and our activity levels.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Yeah, that's an interesting point that you bring up, because
I know that they're so ueen listened their parents out there,
they're saying, hey, I get it. I understand. I know
that I work nine to five sometimes, especially given our
the dynamics of this economy that we're in, sometimes nine
to five looks more like nine to nine or eight
to nine or six to nine, just to get the
(48:12):
bills paid. And you got the kids, so you have
to You don't have time to prepare a nutritious, healthy meal,
so you grab fast food restaurant. A I'm not going
to put them out there. When you grab a fast
food restaurant, you feed your family and get them, drifts
back to bed, hustle and bustle, do it again five six,
seven days a week. So there's that dynamic. How do
(48:33):
you as that parent that has that incredibly busy lifestyle.
You have all these moving parts? Do you have the
children dynamic when they have activities? And then, as you mentioned,
the lack of activity with the phones, computers, the technology,
these kids are out played anymore. How impactful is it?
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Typical public sorry, physical education out of the school?
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
So now we got a mainstream eret get you ready
for college. If you don't have a healthy body, what's
where you going? And that's really unfortunate. Man, I can't
even think of not having pe during high school. It
was every day you went out and you worked out
and ran around, screw around, talked to your friends or whatever.
But you got some movement now, then nap it.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
For the most vivid example of this that I recall,
I recall visiting my son's school one day and what
they call quote unquote physical education. It's not like, well,
we used to light up and do squad thrusts and
sprints and we run track and play basketball, football and
(49:40):
tag and flag football and soccer and very active sports.
It's almost like it's just outdoor classroom environment. And what
I'm with this was a group of young kids sitting
in a circle on their phones texting each other. Oh
like just absolutely coindterproductive, like the whole talking to each
other there talking to each other. They're they're in a
(50:02):
circle and they're giggling and laughing and they're sharing whatever
it was they're sharing in a circle on their phones.
They had their phones and they were out texting each other.
And we're talking about high school kids in they're in
like ninth to tenth grade. So that's just a it's
an unfortunate dynamic. How do we break out So that
parent just listen to this, wondering how do we break
(50:25):
out of this? What's the game play? How do we
get out of it.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
One of the things that we discussed, Richards, is the
possibility of doing kids and activities like flag football, which
is it's a great team sport people get to and
we're going to be involved in that, and we'll do
a future episode about that. But and a lot of
parents are incredibly conscientious and getting their kids out and
getting them as involved as they can and after school
(50:48):
programs and it's not all bleak and whatever. The reality
is though, there is those that can of those that can't.
And so what we want to look at is ways
of which it is a longer discussion because it's really
a societal change. It's going to happen. It's it's not
that simple. But as individuals, we could set a good
(51:09):
example that on its own we can do. Now, Richard,
you at one point told me you were drinking thirty
six scans of soda per week, per week, so we
fingered decision that you aren't going to do that. Nobody
made that for you, Nobody told you're a bad guy,
and nobody You just said, this doesn't make sense anymore,
(51:29):
I am I going to do it? So as individuals, we
can look at our lives and say, what am I
doing that I shouldn't be And what is a decision
I need to make to then do something different? And
I do that different. So that's pebbles in the pod,
that ripple effect. You can't necessarily know how that's all
(51:50):
going to wash out. What you can do is make
a difference. And so part of coaching people for me
is to encourage them to do what they know in
the first place, and then from there, from there then
we can really do something.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
Absolutely, it is so critical, folks to get coaching. We're
speaking from testimony, not for theory here. When in Russ
and I hit at the Super Bowl in Los Angeles,
I was well over for twenty pounds. I don't know
what the actual number was because my skill stopped at
four in the twenty. It can't when I step on
(52:27):
a steal, it would just say to be continued. I
would probably have to go to another skill to get
the number since that bad. But getting coaching is what
really changes the dynamic, where not only do you have
the accountability, you also have the information. There's so much
that you can learn about proper nutrition, about protein timing,
(52:48):
about proper hydration, and also about dealing with the other
variables in your life, about dealing with the stress, about
getting proper sleep. Those are two things that I never
thought about chaotic my average day was, and how to
control that. We know we spoke about the fact that
you know our military, for example, you know they're they're
(53:09):
struggling to find recruiting. We know that there is a
heavy correlation between obesity and productivity in the workforce. Having
a healthier workforce at a younger age is gonna We're
gonna see a healthier, stronger workforce in the future. And
these are our future leaders. So we need to invest
in them. We need to pour into them, we need
(53:31):
to support them, we need to love on them, and
we need to take care of them. And it starts
with things such as helping them to manage their wellness
at a young age and when they learn those core principles,
even if they veer off the path, which we sometimes do.
We're human. We're not expecting a little job or JD
to have a six pack there from the from the
(53:52):
sixth grade into the grave. But we know that at
a minimum, they will at least understand what's going in them,
and they will understand how to control and maintain your willness,
and they will have long, healthy lives and they'll be
great contributors to society. So think of that as your
legacy point. I'm going to pour this into my child,
(54:14):
I'm going to pot this into my family, and these
are the type of this is my brick on the
road to society. Is my contribution through wellness, We're able
to do some great things in society. I just think
this is a very dynamic opportunity for all of us.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Wonderful I great Richard, fantastic season.
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