KCAA: Wellness Jocks (Sat, 21 Jun, 2025)

KCAA: Wellness Jocks on Sat, 21 Jun, 2025

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Welcome to Wellness Jocks, where Athletes meets Wellness Innovations, starring
Rich Walker and Russ Allen.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
We are so glad to have you on the show.
We're so glad to have all of our wonderful teammates
past a prison.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
If you know anyone.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Who needs support, he who is in the battle of
yours obesity, have the joined us. I want to focus
on our two amazing teammates that I brought all today.
One of them is our og, the man who has
been there from day one, mister Russ Allen. He is
the brain shout of the Tackle of BC program. He's
the one that I bet in Vegas when I was

(01:15):
barding chips craftor of the cookies near thing at four
hundred plus phones, and here I am today, So I'm
so grateful to half of Here are we doing today, right.

Speaker 6 (01:24):
Richard, I'm doing fantastic and so is so great to
see you and be able to share the things we're
learning about backling our obesity. My story was I lost
fifty pounds, but before picture was literally in front of
the sign in.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Death Valley, so you could do it. After that, my
wife lost seventy.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
So as a couple, we really took this on together
and it's really taking a new direction in my life.
And just like you, I had a transformative journey and
it really is such an honor to be.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Here, absolutely, and it is a pleasure and honor. Guys,
bring out your no parents, drop questions in a chat.
If you have any, email us when we'll get the
questions to doctor Ntello to provide you answers. He is
a gurup in this battle against obesity. From the perspective

(02:16):
as a medical professional. Obviously he's a cardiologist. He's got
infinite amount of experience dealing with people that are dealing
with this obesity crisis. But he also has a personal
pivot to this as will and I'm gonna let him talk.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
About that as well.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
He is a trusted medical professional in this business, has
been dealing with patience in the the co morbidities of obesity.
So it is such an honor to have you here.
To Greg and Telo, this is the last time I
will use this word because now you're a teammate. We're
no longer going to call your gift. You're now a teavmate.
Our new teammate got the grig.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
And lect me shred shert and thank you Russ. It's
been pleasure to work with us and tackle obesity and
fight against diabetes for a couple of years now. And
thank you so much. Proud of both of you for
what you do. All the people you're helping is fantastic.
And it's a beautiful day, and we should start out
with some gratitude and know why we're here. Have the mindset,

(03:12):
and why we're here is to improve. Actually, we're here
not just to prevent and not just to better manage,
but to reverse chronic disease and writing it out. We're
flooded with an epidemic of chronic disease in our country,
and what that means is it's the leading cause of disability,
greatest reason for health care spending, greater than ninety percent

(03:38):
of health care spending, and greatest cause of premature death.
And we're talking about things like stroke, heart attack, Alzheimer's dementia,
premature dementia, obesity, diabetes, hypertension, kidney disease, and actually all
these things are a symptom of the flame that is

(03:59):
out of control inside us from the exposures we have
all the time. And what I want to do is
make this very real to people, because the purpose of
this today is to tell you how we can do this.
It's very doable. It's just oftentimes we're not aware of things.
And at the NFL alumni are legends, models for society,

(04:23):
models for kids, and have a tremendous impact. And each
of us suffers with one chronic illness for another, our
families do the people around us, and there's a lot
that we can do to help ourselves and help other people.
And that's what we're going to go through today.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
Doctor Ntello, I'd love for you to share a little
bit about your own experience as a youth and struggling
with Type two diabetes and yeah, we'll leave it.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Let you go for us.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'll tell you when I was in my early teenage years,
I had diabetes, and my mother, who grew up on
a farm but worked as a professional waitress in Philadelphia
at the pub and my father was a barber, and
my mother just wouldn't stand for it. My mother like
went out of control when the doctor said here's insulin.

(05:11):
At age I don't know, eleven or twelve, and I
was very overweight, I was obese, and my mother just
wouldn't have that. And my mother imposed on me her
lifestyle habits having grown up on a farm, and actually
reversed my diabetes. And at the time, it's interesting because

(05:34):
at the time it was called adult onset diabetes versus
like one diabetes. Right, type one diabetes about five percent
of people, but overwhelmingly ninety five percent of diabetes is
type two. And at the time we didn't know that.
The doctor said, oh, you're going to die without insulin.
My mother took a risky chance and straightened my life

(05:55):
out on what I eat and what I ate and
what I was exposed totally resolved me of diabetes, which
has come back at times. We're threatened to come back
in my life. But I lost the obesity. I lost
the diabetes for good, pretty much, and I'm forever grateful
for that. And I'll show you that as we go on.
And I'm just going to show a few slides, but

(06:17):
i'll show you as a college football player versus later
on as a busy interventional cardiology carrying winkies around in
my pocket and drinking cokes and not sleeping for years.
But the difference same, BMI. But I'm going to show
you the difference between health and illness. And then and

(06:39):
again in my adult life, I Richard and Russ I was, oh,
there was something wrong with me, and I had to
go to one doctor after another, and everybody said, Oh,
you're just working too hard. Don't worry about it. You're
just working too hard. And I said, no, there's something
wrong with me. And actually I was pretty sick. And
finally I got a diagnose label. And then they tried

(07:03):
to just put different layers of paint on the hood
without addressing the engine under the hood and without getting
to the heart of the matter, and they all meant well.
And then I was privileged because I could go back
to everything I had learned but maybe didn't learn during
my education at the Cleveland Clinic. Over the last years

(07:25):
of the history, they set every day to save lives
and care for life. So I went back and was
privileged to go back and get re educated rather than
just putting stens and heart attack patients, which is fantastic
and honorable. But even the first doctor that the doctor
that did the first bypass surgery or a five Blaaro

(07:45):
Cleveland Clinic, said athoscrosis is a disease, and I can
do bypass surgery, but I'm not treating a disease. And
we know that because we do a bypass and someone
comes back with the stroke where they still have a
high blood pressure. They're all different faces of the same
internal inflammation. And Richard, I don't want to bore your

(08:06):
audience with ox the distress at immune dust regulation, but
there's an internal flame that gets out of control and
then it's manifests as chronic diseases of which there's all
you a handful of which obesity and overweight are major issues.
At about forty percent of Americans are overweight, and if

(08:30):
you combine about three out of four Americans are either
overweight or obese. About forty five percent or obese. And
we'll talk about what obesity means a little bit as
we go on. But yeah, I have had to walk
to talk. I've had to learn and go back and
get enlightened repeatedly and at many years doing that, Richard,

(08:50):
and had to change my whole career focus, my whole
vocational focus, and get enlightened. Unfortunately, I had the resources
to go do that and save my own life as
well and then learn a better way to help people. Actually,
and the way that I view life now is to

(09:11):
help people with their lifespan, their health span. Right. It's
not just how long you but you want to have
a health you want to be vigorous, if you want
to go out and you want to pick up your chut,
your grandchildren or your kids or whatever you want to do.
You want to be able to do that for as

(09:32):
long as possible and have a vibrant, exciting, happy life. Right.
So that's about and that's what we're going to talk
about today. How to do that.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
I'm glad you brought up to the fact that you
you had to re educate yourself on what obesity is
and specifically to you how you treat it, so I
noticed is sort of a pain with a broad brush.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, how do we re.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Educate our medical community because I think a lot of
the people that are in practice right now, give me,
I'm just speaking here. It seems like a lot of
people that are in practice are dealing with the backum
versus prevention.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
So how do we turn that curve where we're.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Educating our medical officials to focus on prevention versus treatment.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
That's a good point, and Richard, the way I look
at it, it's not just prevention, okay, it's also about
improving how we manage chronic disease and furthermore, reverse it,
reverse it, reverse that. A scrossis put diabetes and remission,
get rid of things that are driving these chronic diseases,

(10:39):
and turn chronic diseases around and turn lives around. But
to answer your question, I don't want to be derogatory
or negative at all, but we're talking about things that
have been going on for generations now, and what we've
developed since World War Two is a hammer nail. Okay,

(11:02):
everybody's in a hammer now, and it neglects the biologic
differences between you, me and Russ and the things that
are driving that and those faces of chronic disease. So
we really have become very siloed. And I could talk
all day about we have guys that are into the
brain thing, we have guys that are into the gi microbiome.

(11:24):
We have guys that are in hypertension. But we've not
been educated to listen to what we've already learned since
the nineteen forties, that we are what we are in
life every day, and how we feel and how we function,

(11:45):
how long we live is due to how well our
orchestra works. They're all pieces in the symphony in our body.
And we call it systems bio and it's all connected.
Your gut is connected to your brain. Your gut goes
faster as your brain than your brain goes to your gut.

(12:07):
But all these things are so intimately related, and that
determines who we are, Richard, and how we feel and
function every day. And I'm going to give you some
a group of common things that holds the answer to
how we can optimize that and optimize our function and
vibrance in life terrific. One of the things that we

(12:33):
really try we probably didn't answer, But what we're doing
now is we have it's not just medicine. But you
can't give someone this in a fifteen minute office visit.
Doctors are really pounded now and again the medical schools
are starting to implement this a better education, but then

(12:55):
as far as delivery, it's not possible to deliver this
in brief off visits, let alone have and a doctor
may not have time in her life to go back
and relearn or gain a more enlightened perspective now, but
certainly they have an obligation, I believe, to provide access

(13:19):
to a system that will help them a patient learn
that and put those things into their daily life in
a happy, joyous way. And it's not about restricting or
you can't eat this. It's about opening the abundance of
life giving and life saving things that people are not
aware of. Unfortunately, we live in a society today that

(13:42):
things are upside down and inside out, meaning that everything
that is health adverse has been presented to us since
the nineteen eighties and nineteen seventies and nineties. That's been
presented to us as normal and it's normal. So things
are upside down and backwards, and people have been programmed

(14:07):
like kids think Tony the Tiger is a wonderful thing
with flags and sugar right and in again, I'll say
thirty or forty years ago, there were three hundred and
fifty products in the grocery store. Today there's thirty five thousand.
But if you really look at it, if you really
look at it, ninety five percent of them are all

(14:27):
the same thing. They're feed oils. Make it six things
heavily prized ult what we call ultra processed food, and
we have finition for that. But a way to look
at that would be if you take an apple and
then you compare it to getting the apple pie and McDonald's.
There's no correlation with the nutritional intention of the apple.

(14:51):
But yet people are buying that. Or you think about
kids are getting apple juice, they're getting the balls to
sugar and IB sugar balls goes up chronic insulin and
then for years you develop insulin resistance, which is the
precursor to it's chronic inflammation, and it's a precursor to
pre diabetes, at obesity, at all those things. So what

(15:15):
I'm trying to say is, but yet people think I'm
going to see my kid apple juice. It's a wonderful thing.
It's not you're hurting your kid, and there's so many things,
but you think you're doing the right thing. So our
society has really misled us. And it's economically driven by
the four or five food companies basically that we have
in the world. And so we really have to just

(15:37):
help people get an awareness, but more importantly than we
have to show them the abundance of things for their
life that they don't know about.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
Absolutely, that's a great point. That's where I was going
with the next question, is that one of the things
that we really emphasize on this show and through all
of our content is that I like to use the
saying that your food is your medicine, and if you
don't focus on it that way, then your medicine will
become your food.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Absolutely. And in fact, it's interesting that Richard's through more
some groups of medicine, the functional medicine people, which I'm
one of them, and I'm also American College of Lifestyle
Medicine kind of person. And so there's a big emphasis
now to bring these everyday things that we do every
day in our life, to bring these things into what

(16:33):
becomes our habits, our mindset, our emphasis. So we're trying
to do this. And unfortunately, if we had all the
leaders in our country, because this is it's a global
issue now. But if we had all the people in
our country, all the leaders for health and business together
and make a stand, it would make a fast difference.

(16:55):
For right now, it's going to depend on the individual.
It's going to be personal accountability and awareness, and we
can go through some of the things we need. You
have to know why does this matter to me? Okay?
And what am I living for? And then we have
to know how to do it. Yeah, some slidespurs today

(17:19):
that you can dig into run. Thank you so much. Yeah,
let me pull them up just to give you an introduction.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
And for those of you that are listening on our
podcast networks and also on our three radio stations, KSEA
one O two point five, one oh six point five
station leads the listener behind fifteen eighty, the Phonetic and
w c KG. We have these slides. We will have
them available on our website, so you can go tackle
BC dot com. We'll hosted there. You see those old
video and these whole videos will be available on our

(17:49):
YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
All right, on this slide on the top left, what
I'm trying to show you and I we could talk
about dataade later, but actually, all right, let me divert
from it. Sure, okay, Nixon to get elected had to
come up with something big. He came up with we
want to make food cheaper and more readily available, and

(18:11):
that was a major platform for him and that really
changed the industry. And then when Gatorade got sold from
the Gators, the National Championship Gators to Pepsi, they put
fructose in that. And we can talk about fructose is
toxic and a major issue here with obesity and liver
disease that's epidemic now. But the point is that as

(18:36):
all the exposures we have in our lifetime at the top,
whether it's auto immune disease, diabetes, type two diabetes, asthma, autism,
our chronic disease has exploded over the years. Our genes
haven't changed, but what's changed is what we're exposed to
in our bodies every day over here as slide chronic

(18:57):
diseases in America. And if this doesn't make Russ fault
to share, nothing will. But Richard, look at this, six
out of ten Americans is unbelievable. At least chronic disease
four and ten half two or more chronic diseases, and
there's only a handful and they are all different phases
of the same underlying inflammation. But chronic disease leading causes

(19:22):
death and disability and accounts for a greater than ninety
percent of health care spending. And then I'm going to
go further. I'm going to show you the younger population.
Even this is unbelievable. One out of two people age
eighteen to thirty four have more have at least one
chronic disease. One in four aged eighteen to thirty four

(19:46):
have at least two chronic diseases. And every day there's
new data that cancer and we're changing guidelines doing colonoscopy earlier.
Mamma Grand's earlier cancers happening in the thirties on that
diabetes would change the type two diabetes because kids get
it and have type two diabetes as a kid like

(20:07):
I did, you have earlier complications of premature death and
heart attacks are happening in age twenty and thirty. And
then we'll go to another slide. I want to give
you the background of what we're dealing with. This is
a great study. There are two great studies top left.
What I'm showing is less than one in ten percent
of Americans are metabolically healthy because with obesity, that's what

(20:30):
we're talking about, is metabolism, the physiologic process that are
bodies that help us function and keep us alive and
ineligible to serve in the military. Richard and russ seventy
percent of people in the United States, young people would
not they're not qualified with their health to serve in

(20:53):
our military. Right minded about doctor Cosgrove, former CEO and
president of my professional home based Cleveland Clinic, the state
of our nation is only as good as the state
of our health.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
We actually had sorry General Mark Hurdling talk about the
fact that our obesity rate is a national security issue
and they have to spend six times as much to
recruit one soldier now because of obesity, because most of
the recruits fail to even make it to boot camp.
And then even front than that, they're graduating about forty

(21:29):
percent of the boot camp candidates that actually make it
the boot camp, thus bringing the word that can get
them to meet the B and MY standards in the
physical standards that they can pass the PT portion to
even make it the boot.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Camp, absolutely, Richard. In fact, they've done two things now
in the military. They've reduced the standards, but the other
you've done is they have a pre boot camp trial
where they try and get you healthier so that you
do meet the standards. But again, that's pretty frightening, and
that's a very good point. It is a national surity issue.
And I'll just this is me briefly. This is me

(22:04):
as a little kid, Gregory, the Italian little kid. Hatch
my cheeks and give me a headache, shake of my head.
But when I got diabetes, my mother just couldn't handle it,
and God bless her, and she made sure that we
I implemented what I was eating and had a lifestyle
more like her. And then in the middle picture here

(22:26):
I'm showing you me Gettysbrough College as football player. And
to the right of that is me as a busy
cardiologist putting in stents all night. Heart attack, Richard.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
How many?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
How many was it? Dus?

Speaker 3 (22:42):
What was it?

Speaker 5 (22:43):
I was drinking thirty six cheerry cokes a week, three
toilve pecks, went for the house, went for the office,
went in the car.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Richard.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
I'm sorry, at least at least through and six, because
sometimes I will go to the restaurant have one, or
we we bring in lunch at the office, I have
another one, or stop by the vending machining. So yeah,
minimum thirty six per week.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
And Richard, I share that passion. I had the same Minshew,
surey go is my favorite. And oh my gosh, well, yes,
I don't want to get carried away. Guys, let me
just tell you what we're showing. What I'm showing here
is a left hand column of vibrance, love life, picking
up their grand children. Do whatever you want to do. Richard.

(23:29):
I don't know about you, but sometimes I go find
a field, I hit the sled. I can still do it. Yes,
go do sprints. But the point is, and I'm not
even as healthy as I should be yet, But the
point is we always have to work on it. And
I'm showing you a column that gives you a long,
vibrant life and health span. Liver disease. You don't know this,

(23:49):
maybe you do, but there's a thing called fatty liver
disease and it was first discovered in nineteen eighty. Okay,
this is unbelievable. And it was discovered in kids, and
it's wait a minute, you have alcoholic liver disease. Well,
you're eight years old. You're not drinking alcohol, are you?

Speaker 7 (24:05):
No?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Oh wow, you have this thing called faty liver disease,
which now you know, affects like a gigantic number of kids,
a gigantic number of adults for a long time. It's
uh silent disease. Doctors too often don't look for it.
It's discociated with diabetes and has a lot to do

(24:26):
with what we eat, like fruit TOAs and sugar is
glucose and fruit toase. Fruit toase goes right to your
liver and starts poisoning your liver, okay, and leads to
chronic liver disease. What is the most common cast of
chronic liver disease, and it is becoming the number one
reason for liver transplants in the world now in this

(24:49):
incredible faty liver right, And it's all associated with obesity
and diabetes, inflammation, all this stuff. It's all in there together.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
And so when I see when you and I are
sitting on a park bench, Richard, at hanging out in
Houston or Atlanta, I don't know. I just look around
and I see everybody with the big waste, thinking, God,
I got to have a talk with you because I
love you.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
And then when my waist gets big, I say, oh God,
what are you doing? And I can always find out.
But so one is we call nutrition, But it is
what we eat, it's what we drink. We should be
drinking water. It is purified reverse osmosis. Green tea, okay,
and I get green tea to decaffeinated and green tea

(25:36):
is really healthy, but in a steak caffeinated a certain
way Swiss water method, not with all the toxic chemicals
and what we drank the water out plastics. So this
will scare you. It's a real thing, Okay. But a
study came out a couple months ago where prodded artery
surgery patients right half of them had plastic and their

(25:58):
prodded arteries. Wow, and the plastic and the corodi arteries
predicted you're gonna die earlier. You're going to be sicker
than the first one who already has a bed of course,
because they have Croda disease, but didn't have the plastic.
So what I'm trying to say is what we put
on our skin, the water we drink all this what

(26:18):
we might wave things in. You wave your food and plastic,
you're heating it up, moving those molecules into the food.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
You've got glass or ceramic. Cannot use plastic.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Right, Glass all the time? And I packed everything in
glass on the refrigerator very important. I got a water filter,
I got this, I got that. But I'm not crazy.
What I'm trying to say is I used to think
this was crazy stuff, but now I know the biology
of it, and I know the data. But the other thing, Russ,
thank you for pointing out it's not just the food

(26:56):
we're talking about. And the best food is the food
that doesn't have labels. It's it's hidden in the corner
of the grocery store. Kay. And we have to teach
people Chrisper's vegetables, there's a gazillion of them. But anyway, anyway,
we have to teach people and that there's an abundance
of wonderful things out there, abundance. If we just let

(27:18):
people know that and then how to prepare it and
what cooking oils to use and not to use, like
like olive oil is improves your life. All these other
the Omega three, but all the Omega six oils are
very harmful to your health. But also the packaging is
what I wanted to mention. The packaging is full of
poisons and things were called toxins and chemicals. Again, eating

(27:43):
at home with the community and all that love also
is all molecules of emotion and your biology, Okay, and
that also improves your health. And eating out is a
very treacherous road if you're gonna do that a lot. Yeah.
So that's a little bit on nutrition, and then I
want to talk about I don't use the word exercise,

(28:07):
and I don't use the word diet ever, because we're
talking about dietary patterns right, not dying it. Diets are
not sustainable. They don't work. You can be able to
as a diets. You have to get a healthy dietary pattern.
And whatever we call it, if we call it, it
doesn't matter. The Blue Zone diet or the Mediterranean dietary

(28:29):
pattern is all the same. They're all commonalities. What I
told you, Okay, there's no difference here. And but and
then joyous movement is the point. I don't like the
word to use extra Yeah, I like golorious movement. And
wherever you are, if you need to get off the
couch if you need to go walking, And yeah, I

(28:50):
have my warror ring. Okay, that tells me heart rate variability.
It tells me how I'm doing, and if I wake up,
it says, Greg, You're gonna feel terrible today. It's right.
But I like it Richard and Russ because it tells
me how many steps I walk a day, and most
importantly for me, by contrast with a lot of the
other things available, it tells me about heart rate variability,

(29:13):
which is a balance of my red battery cable and
my blue and my black battery cable. We aught our
bodies run on two cables, and it's called the automatic
nervous system. And that's why my blood vessels constrict when
I stand up and I don't pass out, and that's
my heart rate, and my pupils get big and small.

(29:35):
I sweat or don't sweat. It's the two cables in
your body, the automatic nervous is and it impacts everything
and we have to have that imbalance. And then that's
another thing Bagel tone we could talk about and too much.
We live in a life where we're in the room
with the lion, so our rocket fuel, our et benephrine

(29:58):
is going sky high all the time, and that hurts
our brain and our body. It causes accelerating aging and
premature debt, heart failure and other things. So we have
to have a balance to the vague old tone, the
rest and digest and regenerative phase. And that's what my
heart rate variability monitoring tells me. The numbers aren't important.

(30:22):
What's important is to trend over weeks and months anyway.
So joyous activity, we could talk about it all day,
but it's essential. It prolongs your life, and no physical
activity in itself will not get you healthy. It's fantastic,
and all these things are synergistic. But if you're eating

(30:43):
all the stuff that's not good for you that we
talked about, you can exercise all you want, it's not
gonna matter. Now. The other thing I want to talk
about is stress, real fast. Stress is a physiologic thing,
and whether you're aware of it or not, and whether
it's physical stress, we're emotional stress, bad relationships, toxic relationships.

(31:05):
This is all biology pouring into you and forms of
stress we're aware of it or not. Not sleeping is
a terrible form of stress. Stress disrupture, metabolism and all
the things we talk about that are critical for life,
your mitochondrial function, this and that. So it's truly important

(31:28):
that are we're aware how to manage stress, is my point,
and that has to do with the balance in the
autonomic nervous system and things we can do to increase
our vagal tone. The other thing that's troly critical that
people don't get is restorative sleep. One of the most
important things for health and obesity and everything else. And

(31:50):
when you don't get the sleep that you need on
a routine basis, This is all biology. It's not somebody's
opinion on the street. But it will make you eat.
It changes all the hormones and nerves in your body.
It changes everything that you makes you who you are.
You can't do it effectively without restorative sleep. And we

(32:14):
have a whole course on sleep. Breathing is important. The
other thing I wanted another pillar is social connection. And
we know that we have an epidemic now of isolation
in America. Okay, people on social media, we're on social
media now, don't tout this, but one hour a week,

(32:36):
one hour a week.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
But this is this is a good thing, though, doctor,
because we're doing film study and breaking this. Now, don't
think it that way. You just think we're a blocking rolls. Yeah,
we're going through the actions of note, that's what we're
doing exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I'm with you, guys. But the point I'm getting that
is social connection. Isolation is now been declared a major
public health crisis. It also leads to chronic disease, mature death.
So all these things are real biological issues.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
Yes, Russ, I want to add hydration, and you mentioned
a filter that uses I have a Burki filter, so
it uses a stone to sandstone to filter the water. Yes,
it eliminates ninety nine percent of the toxins and so on,
costs nothing once you buy it last forever. I don't

(33:26):
have to throw away all those plastic bottles that held
my water in him and gotten hot and cold and
hot and cold. So whatever that plastic was shedding at
that time went into that water. Instead, I get it
from the tap, which came from the reservoir through the filter.
It's about as healthy as you're going.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
To get, absolutely, and Russ to support that that there
are systems that I think are wonderful. I'm going to
get one that I can put under the sake, so
I can use Topwotter again and get rid of plastic.
I used to buy the glass bottles with the pollogrino,
but that's the called all that. So I'm going to
go with top Witter that I know has a good filter.

(34:04):
The problem I'm finding is I can't find a good
filter that I can count on to get all the plastics.
And you have no idea. I will just share with
your audience what's in drinking water. There's everything from depic
code and anti seizure medicines and estrogens and poisons and
plastics and forever chemicals, so you really need and the

(34:27):
best filter so far mechanism is reverse osmosis. And I
hate to say it, but there is one product of
plastic bottled water that when I have to do it,
I go to that because it's reverse osmosis. Whether they
get it from a tap or wherever they say they
get it, most of these spring waters are nonsense that

(34:48):
are from their paths somewhere. But as long as they
have reverse osmosis.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
And what is for our audience, what is reverse osmosis.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
It's just a mechanism by which they purify w I
don't think Okay, yeah, it's just a mechanism by which
they do it, just for mechanisms by which they decaffeinate things.
But this Twitter method is real and non chemical. But anyway,
I will just and then I'm going to just go

(35:18):
through this briefly. But I'm going to say social connection, okay, community, love, spirituality,
all these things are critical to who you are biologically
and how you are expressed every day in life, and
we all need that. And also it also has to

(35:40):
do with again, when I was growing up on my
Italian relatives driving me crazy talking, but the meal went
forever and my cheeks got pissed a thousand times. Actually,
when we eat slower and we eat with intention and
we eat with community, everything physiologically and biologically is better.

(36:05):
Is the point. It's not someone's opinion. This is all
evidence based science. And spirituality also makes a big difference
in how we feel and how we function and how
long we live a healthy life. The last thing I'll
say is avoiding things that are risky. And here's the question.

(36:27):
This is the real challenge to educate people between health
promoting and health adverse because most of us don't know that,
and there's so many things in our everyday life. I
don't want to get carried away, all right, but I'll
just think about what I've gone through over the last
couple of years. It's not crazy stuff. My father was

(36:48):
a fireman and a barber, so I saw people die
from house fires. Today they don't do that. What I
mean is emergery responders. Firefighters don't put out of fires today.
What they do is they save lives with CPR and
healthcare issues. Right. But the point is, everybody has a bed,

(37:11):
and most people don't realize all the toxins and flame
retardant stuff that's in a bed. And then you'll realize
they can get an organic bed without all that stuff
for less expensive than they can get a toxic bed.
But the point is, wow creating products that we use,
or the stuff that we put on our hair and
our skin, and all those things keep adding up over

(37:36):
lifetime to cause over time, it's all these things that
add up to hurt your biology and hurt your metabolism,
and all these things then lead to high blood pressure, obesity,
and all these things are symptoms, they're not diseases. I know.
If you're not feeling well, please don't ever accept that

(37:57):
you're okay, because your lab is okay. That just means
you're in the wrong place. Are you with me? M Yeah,
your doctor's looking in the wrong place. And if you're
always looking under the light, and you're only gonna see
what's under the light, but most of us have stuff
that's in the dark. Try to shine the light into
the dark and keep looking. And I just wrote a

(38:21):
chapter in a best selling book I was so privileginal
of mental health. It came out last week, and maybe
I can give Russ a copy of that chapter. But
it has all this in there because mental health is
the same thing chronic disease. It's all the same mechanism,
and you have to be careful. Richard. I want to
warn your audience about supplements. And again, we're sold a

(38:47):
bill of goods by a lot of people. A lot
of supplements are actually harmful. Yes, there are some supplements
I think, but again, if there's a compelling clinical situation
and I know it's a clean supplement, I know who
makes it. I've looked at the certificate of authenticity, so
I know there's no toxins and heavy metals and poisons

(39:09):
in it. I know it's not rancid fish oil. I
know it's a good product because I saw it with
my eyes. The company showed that to me. But I
think if you have a measurable deficiency and you can't
correct it with food, and you're looking into the reasons
why you couldn't correct it with nutrition, then the supplement

(39:32):
is really helpful for a period of time. The appropriate
supplement to correct a measurable deficiency. Why you're really working
on what matters? Why is stor a measurable nutritional deficiency
and what am I doing to really correct it? The
point here is to accomplish sustainable health, and there's no

(39:55):
fast bullet. It's a matter of what we do over
time in a relative way that makes the difference.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
I have a couple of questions we're russ or right?

Speaker 6 (40:05):
What one really quick one is there is a chart
that shows percent body fat and what age groups.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
As you age, they ramp.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
It up in terms of what is considered a healthy
percent body fat. Is that a valid notion or is
it in fact should be the same thing no matter
what age you're.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
No, it does change because we get older. Oftentimes people
lose muscle mass. Unfortunately it's and if it's too much
muscle mass, it's called charcopenia, and that it's dangerous in itself. Brus,
I think you have to look at the whole picture.
And again there's a lot of thin people that you
and I would look at and say that person's thin

(40:48):
where they're small. But if we measure their waste and
do the waste to have ratio, waste to hype ratio
or just their wasste we say, wow, you have that
inflammatory organ in your tie, tell me that's causing you
to be sick, and reflecting that you're sick. So that's
a very simple thing that everybody can do, and then

(41:08):
other people can. But yes, it's probably a good thing
to look at percent body wat but body weight, but
too often we get carried away like a dexas scan
is the best thing, right that they do f osteoporosis
as they do the right program to look at percent
body fat. But what I'm saying is, Russ, I don't
really need that to tell me when my body fat

(41:30):
is not good or my muscle mass is not good
that I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
We can't paint the brush with the world of the
tello brush there.

Speaker 9 (41:40):
You know, he.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Rush Russ, Russ, I'm not going to accept that at all,
because it's not the Nintello brush. It's your opinion. And
what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I'm giving you
medical based facts. You've not been, Russ. You've not been
in my boots taking care of patients and being a

(42:03):
patient at the same time. Again, wait, did you see this.

Speaker 7 (42:07):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Black way? That two more flying?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Get the.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Three penalties in your boxes. Okay, because we're looking for
truth here, Russ. Okay, Now, if you want to have
a talk on per set body weight and being my
we can do that in our time. But I remember
in past years I've had the flight with you to
get rid of this being my bullshit right, and they
can and sirst a lot of people in barwser what

(42:42):
we can't. That's been my But it's started to pay
rush for us. I haven't spent years saving my own
life going back to the Cleveland clinic all the time.
I haven't done that to paint and the tallow paper
missed my effort, doctor Ntel, you missed my what you
missed it completely? Maybe you should express it more accurately, Richard,

(43:06):
Wow it anyway, let me move on again.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
Just let me finish the notion. Oh, go ahead, Ross,
it was really simple. Your expertise and experience is what
I was referring to. So many people are ignorant of
so many things. I'm sitting here writing notes and I've
been studying this for quite a while and I'm learning
things today, so I wouldn't consider myself Okay, Well, well, Rouss,

(43:35):
I'll tell.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
You what really turned my head. Hey, when I looked
at the Irvine Page. I'll tell you what. Here's a
guy that talked about athos crossis and when FDR was
dying from essential hypertension another misnomer. Okay, always essential to
stay alive, and the world said you're dying, and yet
the Russians took him to the took advantage of him.

(43:57):
Then he was having heart failure and strokes. But what
I'm trying to say is an even Irvine Page who
then started the field of hypertension at Cleveland Clinic, and
we owe so much to today. But he's the one
that really said everything is interconnected biologically and hypertension, and
that led to the concept of what we know now.

(44:19):
Hypertension is a symptom of inflamed blood vessels asteris grosses
is a symptom of inflamed blood vessels. So I'm trying
to show you how soul interrelated. Is my point, that's all.
And it's not my paint brush. It's stuff that I
had to go back and I could put Stenson all night.
But doctor Fabilaro, as doctor Fabulau said in nineteen sixty

(44:41):
seven when he started bypass surgery at the Cleveland Clinic,
this is a palliat of procedure. We're not treating a disease.
So the point here is to treat what's under the
hood so people can have sustainable health and vibrance and
a wonderful health span. Just how long you live, but

(45:01):
how long you live with vigor and love and life
and that kind of absolutely, and I'm trying to say
it's biologically. It's all biology. It's the biology of life.
And again, r Us and again, how frustrated I was
privileged to be there all night putting in bloom pumps
and stands and devices somebody having a heart attack. There's

(45:22):
no greater feeling in the world to leave that cath
lab and say we did something good. Okay, but I
can do a lot better for the world with this
different approach. And by this different approach, we know that
we can reverse chronic disease, we can improve management of

(45:43):
diabetes or wait, and we can prevent it as well.
So I'm trying to give you some of the six key.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Great sir, Yeah again, and for NFL alumni, you have
all paid the price. You've all been through it where
you had a mindset and an awareness and a presence,
and now we just need to redirect that a little bit.
And again we could even be having the same talk
about prostate health, okay, and about nutrition and prostate cancer,

(46:19):
whether you've been treated or not treated. So this is
something that just the whole medical world. That's not how
we've gotten the practice with the hammer and nail thing
or treating tip of the iceberg symptoms without getting what's
under the iceberg. Okay, that's the medical system we're stuck

(46:39):
with right now, and so we have an obligation to
each do our little part and have. In fact, I'm
going to amplify this. I'm going to try and bring
a whole ten week program, twelve week program based on
my life experience and what I learned with from the
Cleveland Clinics program for Life I'm going to try to

(47:00):
bring that online in the fall. Richard and Russ wonderful. Yeah,
so again there's a way to help people. But what
I'm trying to say it may not be it's a
great thing. We don't want somebody to have a heart attack,
but if they do, we want them to be able
to reverse that chronic disease so then three months later

(47:20):
they don't get a stroke and that kind of thing.
And I'm not score. And the last thing I'll say
too about obesity is that it reduces how long you
live by about fifteen years guys, by about fiften to
fifteen years, and an incredible So again, this chronic disease

(47:46):
epidemic of which obesity, mental health crisis, overweight. And I've
listened to your shows, Richards are fantastic. You're hitting on
all these things is tremendous. Thank you, and your efforts
are fantastic. But I think it's important that we really
get what matters here, and it's not somebody's opinion. And

(48:09):
we have so many opinions out there that unfortunately aren't
really based on real life, on real things, on science,
on evidence based right, So that's what we have to
really be careful of and be critical of before we
go and ask people to apply it to their lives.

(48:29):
And that's why I'm trying to say, is just the
six or seven pillars of health. And again, these chronic
diseases that we have are just a few, and they're
all different faces of the same. What we have medical
terms for internal immune disregulation and oxidata stress, and that's
what we mean by chronic low grade inflammation. And now

(48:53):
we know what feeds that, right sort of speak, and
we know how to stop that process, and then we
know how oftentimes we can repair the damaged metabolism from
those things. And that's what we're all here to do. Absolutely. Yeah,
and Russ forgive me. I don't forgive me, Russ, I
don't care.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
This is locker room talk, Doc, there's no forgiving in
the locker room. We notice teams that are successful figure
it out in the locker room. They figured it out
in the film room. We get on the whiteboard, we
all have to agree. Sometimes we get a little chippy,
but we got we have the same mission, we have
the same mindset. We work it out, work it out

(49:36):
when we.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Get on a few and you're Richard, I'm with you.
And it's funny how we've been influenced by a lot
of the same people. And it's interesting. Again, the whole
point here is if you look back in your life
at the people who have touched your life, okay, and
it's the same thing. They have influenced to our biology
and who we are, just like all the things that

(49:59):
we eat and if we're sedentary or have joyous movement
in our life. And yeah, those film rooms taught me
a lot. Richard, a guy like me who had no talent,
I had no room to cheat. So if I didn't
do the technique, I'm not going to succeed. And that's
how we're on the field. At least you were on

(50:21):
the field. Here it's just left out. Probably better off
not on the field, because I gotta tell you when
Joe Mowglia, Okay, he's a d N now at the
Coast of Carolina, but he was at a Fordham at
Forida Prep at FORDNA University and his first job he
applied to two hundred and fifty six schools to be

(50:41):
a head coach out of college at high school. Only
one school took him. What a blessing. Archberr Academy in Delaware,
claim my Delaware. But and I know we still care
about it. Russ. Maybe you're better off not on the field.
Why I say that because we had sticks and stones
and rocks and broken class and I know I eight
people to do that at night on our practice field,

(51:03):
no turf. But the point is all these are good
lessons in life, and we're all here to help people,
but we have to do it in an honest way.
And we're really overwhelmed today, Like I've heard Richard say,
before you walk into the grocery store and it's overwhelming, right,
I could just all made to feeling to us. And

(51:26):
I know I've heard Richard and the team talk about
food labels, and I know this is important to me.
But like in the nineteen nineties, people like doctor Castelli
from Freming in Art Study and Dean Ornish a bunch
of people, they fought to get any food labels on.
They fought for that for years. For us, this thing

(51:47):
with obesity is a disease. Yeah, I could go on
about that all day, and it's been recognized as a
disease for a long time. And what we've tried to
do here is talk about causes, multiple causes and as
Richard said, cumulative over time, and again this other word
with comorbidities, we have to get rid of that because

(52:12):
these aren't comorbidities. They're different faces of all the same
abnormal biology. Whether you call it obesity, hypertension, diabetes, they're
all just a few different fases of the same internal
metabolic derangement with the same causes. So again, when you're

(52:33):
treating the whole person and you're improving your biology, that's
why if you treat one or two of these things,
then you're risk for all these bid things. That goes
down dramatically. And again the point is that it takes time.

(52:53):
But I'll give you an example, high blood pressure. Right,
if we apply just somebody's things to people with high
blood pressure, we could dramatically de prescribe, take away their
need for multiple medications just with If you want to
call this a better lifestyle, if you want to call

(53:13):
this functional medicine, it doesn't matter exactly.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
But this is all phenomenal information and we have one
heck with squad that we're putting on a field against
the battle of laicity. We thank you so much to
our teammate, doctor Greg Matillo. Again, the great Russ Allen
the we call him the Mount of Muscle, always a
critical player in all this, and we thank you for

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