KCAA: Wellness Jocks (Sat, 3 May, 2025)

KCAA: Wellness Jocks on Sat, 3 May, 2025

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Welcome to Wellness Jocks, where Athletes meets Wellness Innovations, starring
rich Walker and Russ Allen.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
We are so glad to have you on the show.
Who are so glad to have all of our wonderful
teammates past at present. If you know anyone who needs support,
who is in the battle against obesity, have the joined us.
I want to focus on our two amazing teammates that
I brought off today. One of them is our og,

(00:55):
the man who has been there from day one, mister
Russ Allen. He is the brains out of the Tackle
of BC program. He's the one that I bit in
Vegas when I was born, ships cracktors the cookies near
thing at four hundred plus ponds, and here I am today,
So I'm so grateful to half of here. Are we
doing today, right, Richard?

Speaker 6 (01:14):
I'm doing fantastic and so is so great to see
you and be able to share the things we're learning
about backling our obesity. My story was I lost fifty pounds,
but before picture was literally in front of the sign
and death.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Valley, so you could do it.

Speaker 7 (01:30):
After that, my wife lost seventies. So as a couple,
we really took this on together and it's really taken
a new direction in my life.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
And just like you, I had a transformative journey and
it really is such an honor.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
To be here, absolutely, and it is a pleasure and honor. Guys,
bring out your no parts, drop courses in a chat.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
If you have any email.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Us we'll get the courses to doctor Mantillo to provide
you answers. He is a gurup in this battle against
obesity from the perspective as a medical professional. Obviously he's
a cardiologist, He's got infinite amount of experience dealing with
people that are dealing with this obesity crisis. But he

(02:16):
also has a personal pivot to this as will and
I'm gonna let him talk about that as well. He
is a trusted medical professional in his business, has been
dealing with patients in there, the co morbidities of obesity.
So it is such an honor to have you here Greg,
and tell this is the last time I will use
this word because now you're our teammate. We're no longer
going to call you a GIFST. You're now a teammate,

(02:37):
our new teammate dot Greg.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
And Shredchhert and thank you Russ. It's been a pleasure
to work with USS and tackle obesity and fight against
diabetes for a couple of years now. And thank you
so much, and proud of both of you for what
you do with all the people you're helping is fantastic.
And it's a beautiful day, and we should start out
with some gratitude and know why we're here or have

(03:00):
the mindset, and why we're here is to improve. Actually,
we're here not just to prevent and not just to
better manage, but to reverse chronic disease. And writing it out,
we're flooded with an epidemic of chronic disease in our country.
And what that means is it's the leading cause of disability,

(03:21):
greatest reason for health care spending, greater than ninety percent
of health care spending, and greatest cause of premature death.
And we're talking about things like stroke, heart attack, Alzheimer's dementia,
premature dementia, obesity, diabetes, hypertension, kidney disease, and actually all

(03:45):
these things are a symptom of the flame that's out
of control inside us from the exposures we have all
the time. And what I want to do is make
this very real to people, because the purpose of this
today is to tell you how we can do this.
It's very doable. It's just oftentimes we're not aware of things.

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And at the NFL alumni are legends, models for society,
models for kids, and have a tremendous impact. And each
of us suffers with one chronic illness for another, our families,
to the people around us, and there's a lot that
we can do to help ourselves and help other people.

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And that's what we're going to go through today.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
Doctor Nattello, I'd love for you to share a little
bit about your own experience as a youth and struggling
with type two diabetes and yeah, we'll leave it, let
you go for us.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I'll tell you when I was in my early teenage years,
I had diabetes and my mother, who grew up on
a farm but worked as a professional waitress in Philadelphia
at the pub, and my father was a barber, and
my mother just wouldn't stand for it. My mother went
out of control when the doctor said, here's it at

(05:01):
age I don't know, eleven or twelve, and I would
very overweight. I was obese, and my mother just wouldn't
have that. And my mother imposed on me her lifestyle habits,
having grown up on a farm, and actually reversed my diabetes.

(05:21):
And at the time, it's interesting because at the time
it was called adult onset diabetes versus like one diabetes. Right,
type one diabetes about five percent of people, but overwhelmingly
ninety five percent of diabetes is type two. And at
the time we didn't know that that doctor said, oh,
you're going to die without insulince. My mother took a

(05:43):
risky chance and straightened my life out on what I
eat and what I ate and what I was exposed to,
and actually resolved me of diabetes, which has come back
at times we're threatened to come back in my life.
But I lost the obesity. I lost the diabetes for
good pretty much, and I'm forever grateful for that. And
I'll show you though as we go on, and I'm

(06:04):
just going to show a few slides, but I'll show
you as a college football player versus later on as
a busy interventional cardiology carrying winkies around in my pocket
and drinking cokes and not sleeping for years. But the
different same bm I. But I'm going to show you

(06:25):
the difference between health and illness. And then and again
in my adult life, I Richard and Russ. I was, Oh,
there was something wrong with me, and I had to
go to one doctor after another, and everybody said, Oh,
you're just working too hard. Don't worry about it, You're
just working too hard. And I said, no, there's something
wrong with me. And actually I was pretty sick. And

(06:48):
finally I got a diagnostic label. And then they tried
to just put different layers of paint on the hood
without addressing the engine under the hood, and without getting
I mean that the heart of the matter. And they
all meant well. And then I was privileged because I
could go back to everything I had learned but maybe
didn't learn during my education into Cleveland Clinic. Over the

(07:12):
last years of the history. They set every day to
save lives and care for life. So I went back
and was privileged to go back and get re educated
rather than just putting stens and heart attack patients, which
is fantastic and honorable. But even the first doctor that
the doctor that did the first bypass surgery or a

(07:34):
Fa Bolaro Cleveland Clinic, said athoscrosis is a disease, and
I can do bypass surgery, but I'm not treating a disease.
And we know that because we do a bypass and
someone comes back with the stroke where they still have
a high blood pressure. They're all different faces of the
same internal inflammation. And Richard, I don't want to bore

(07:55):
your audience with OX. They distress at immune dust regulation,
but there's an internal flame that gets out of control
and then it's manifests as chronic diseases, of which there's
all a handful of which obesity and overweight are major issues.
At about forty percent of Americans are overweight, and if

(08:19):
you combine about three out of four Americans are either
overweight or obese. About forty five percent or obese. And
we'll talk about what obesity means a little bit as
we go on, but yeah, I have had the walk
to talk. I've had to learn and go back and
get enlightened repeatedly and at many years doing that, Richard,

(08:40):
and had to change my whole career focus, my whole
vocational focus, and get enlightened. Unfortunately, I had the resources
to go do that and save my own life as
well and then learn a better way to help people. Actually,
in the way that I view life now is to

(09:00):
help people with their lifespan, their health span. Right, It's
not just how long you do, but you want to
have a health You want to be vigorous, if you
want to go out and you want to pick up
your chut, your grandchildren or your kids or whatever you
want to do. You want to be able to do

(09:21):
that for as long as possible and have a vibrant, exciting,
happy life. Right. So that's about and that's what we're
going to talk about today. How to do that. I'm
glad you.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Brought up to the fact that you you had to
re educate yourself on what obese is and specifically to
you how you treat it.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
So I noticed is.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Sort of a pain with a broad brush. But how
do we re educate our medical community because I think
a lot of the people that are in practice right now,
if you give me the I'm just speaking here, but
it seems like a lot of people that are in
practice are dealing with the backian versus prevention. So how
do we turn that curved where we're educating our medical
officials to focus on prevention versus treatment.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
That's a good point, and Richard, the way I look
at it, it's not just prevention, okay, it's also about
improving how we manage chronic disease and furthermore, reverse it,
reverse it. Reverse that scrossis put diabetes and remission, get
rid of things that are driving these chronic diseases, and

(10:29):
turn chronic diseases around and turn lives around. But to
answer your question, I don't want to be derogatory or
negative at all, but we're talking about things that have
been going on for generations now, and what we've developed
since World War Two is a hamernaiwl Okay, everybody's in

(10:52):
a hammer now, and it neglects the biologic differences between you,
me and Russ and the things that are driving that
and those faces of chronic disease. So we really have
become very siloed. And I could talk all day about
we have guys that are into the brain thing, we
have guys that are into the GI microbiome. We have

(11:13):
guys that are in hypertension. But we've not been educated
to listen to what we've already learned since the nineteen forties,
that we are what we are in life every day,
and how we feel and how we function, how long

(11:35):
we live is due to how well our orchestra works.
They're all pieces in the symphony in our body. And
we call it systems biology, and it's all connected. Your
gut is connected to your brain. Your gut goes faster
as your brain than your brain goes to your gut.

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But all these things are so intimately related, and that
determines who we are, Richard, and how we feel and
function every day. And I'm going to give you some
a group of common things that holds the answer to
how we can optimize that and optimize our function and
vibrance in life. Terrific. One of the things that we

(12:22):
really try we probably didn't answer. But what we're doing
now is we have it's not just medicine, but you
can't give someone this in a fifteen minute office visit.
Doctors are really pounded now and again the medical schools
are starting to implement this a better education. But then

(12:45):
as far as delivery, it's not possible to deliver this
in brief office visits, let alone have and a doctor
may not have time in her life to go back
and relearn or gain a more enlightened perspective now, but
certainly they have an obligation I believe, to provide access

(13:09):
to a system that will help them a patient learn
that and put those things into their daily life in
a happy, joyous way. And it's not about restricting or
you can't eat this. It's about opening the abundance of
life giving and life saving things that people are not
aware of. Unfortunately, we live in a society today that

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things are upside down and inside out, meaning that everything
that is health adverse has been presented to us since
the nineteen eighties and nineteen seventies and nineties. That's been
presented to us as normal, and it's not normal. So
things are upside down and backwards, and people have been

(13:55):
programmed like kids think Tony the Tiger is a wonderful thing.
When flags and sugar right and again, I'll say thirty
or forty years ago to three hundred and fifty products
in the grocery store today there's thirty five thousand, but
if you really look at it, if you really look
at it, ninety five percent of them are all the

(14:17):
same thing. There're feed oils make it six things heavily
priced ult what we call ultra processed food, and we
have finition for that. But a way to look at
that would be if you take an apple and then
you compare it to getting the apple pie and McDonald's.
There's no correlation with the nutritional intention of the apple,

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but yet people are buying that. Or you think about
kids are getting apple juice, they're getting the balls to
sugar and ib sugar ballster instally goes up chronic insulin
and then for years you develop insulin resistance, which is
a precursor to it's chronic inflammation, and it's the precursor
to pre diabetes, at obesity, at all those things. So

(15:04):
what I'm trying to say is, but yet people think
I'm going to see my kid apple juice. It's a
wonderful thing. It's not. You're hurting your kid. And there's
so many things, but you think you're doing the right thing.
So our society has really misled us, and it's economically
driven by the four or five food companies basically that
we have in the world, and so we really have

(15:26):
to just help people get an awareness, but more importantly
than we have to show them the abundance of things
for their life that they don't know about.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Absolutely, that's a great point. That's where I was going
with the next question is that one of the things
that we really emphasize on this show and through all
of our content is that I like to use the
saying that your food is your medicine, and if you
don't focus on it that way, then your medicine will
become your food.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Absolutely, and in fact, it's interesting Richards through more are
some groups of medicine, the functional medicine people, which I'm
one of them, and I'm also American College of Lifestyle
Medicine kind of person. And so there's a big emphasis
now to bring these every day things that we do
every day in our life, to bring these things into

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what becomes our habits, our mindset, our emphasis. So we're
trying to do this, and unfortunately, if we had all
the leaders in our country, because this is it's a
global issue now, but if we had all the people
in our country, all the leaders for health and business
together and make a stand. It would make a fast difference.

(16:45):
For right now, it's going to depend on the individual.
It's going to be personal accountability and awareness, and we
can go through some of the things we need. You
have to know why does this matter to me? Okay?
And what am I living for? And then we have
to know how to do it? Yeah, to me.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
Some slidespurs today that you can dig into run.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Thank you so much. Yeah, let me pull them up
just to give you an introduction. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
And for those of you that are listening on our
podcast networks and also on our three radio stations KSEAA
one O two point five, one oh six point five
station leads the listener behind fifteen eighty the Phonetic and
w c KG. We have these slides. We will have
them available on our website so you can go tackle
BC dot com well hosted.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
There you see those old video and his.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
Whole videos will be available on our YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
All right, on this slide on the top left, what
I'm trying to show you and I we could talk
about data rade later, but actually all right, let me
divert for a minute. Sure, Okay, Nixon to get elected
had to come up with something big. He came up with,
if we want to make food cheaper and more readily available,

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and that was a major platform for him, and that
really changed the industry. And then when Gatorade got sold
from the Gators, the National Championship Gators to Pepsi, they
put fructose in that. And we can talk about fructose
is toxic and a major issue here with obesity and
liver disease that's epidemic now. But the point is that

(18:25):
as all the exposures we have in our lifetime at
the top, whether it's autoimmune disease, diabetes, type two diabetes, asthma, autism,
our chronic disease has exploded over the years. Our genes
haven't changed, but what's changed is what we're exposed to
in our bodies every day over here as slide chronic

(18:47):
diseases in America. And if this doesn't make Russ fault
to share nothing, well, but Richard, look at this. Six
out of ten Americans is unbelievable chronic disease, four and
ten a half two or more chronic diseases. And there's
only a handful and there are all different phases of

(19:07):
the same underlying inflammation, but chronic disease lading causes death
and disability, and it counts for greater than ninety percent
of health care spending. And then I'm going to go further.
I'm going to show you the younger population. Even this
is unbelievable. One out of two people age eighteen to
thirty four have more have at least one chronic disease.

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One in four age eighteen to thirty four have at
least two chronic diseases. And every day there's new data
the cancer and we're changing guidelines doing colonoscopy, earlier mammograms,
earlier cancers happening in the thirties, and no on set
diabetes would change the type two diabetes because kids get

(19:53):
it and have type two diabetes as a kid like
I did, you have earlier complications of premature death and
heart attacks are happening in age twenty and thirty. And
then we'll go to another slide. I want to give
you the background of what we're dealing with. This is
a great study. There are two great studies. Top left.
What I'm showing is less than one in ten percent

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of Americans are metabolically healthy because with obesity, that's What
we're talking about is metabolism, the physiologic process that are
bodies that help us function and keep us alive and
ineligible to serve in the military. Richard and russ seventy
percent of people in the United States, young people would

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they're not qualified with their health to serve in our military.
Minded about doctor Cosgrove, former CEO and president of my
professional home based Cleveland clinic. The state of our nation
is only as good as the state of our health.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
We actually hear, sorry General Mark Hurdling about the fact
that our obesity rate is a national security issue and
they have to spend six times as much to recruit
one soldier now because of obesity, because most of the
recruits fail to even make it to boot camp. And
then even front than that, they're graduating about forty percent

(21:19):
of the boot camp candidates that actually make.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
It the boot camp.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
That's bringing back and get them to meet the B
and R standards in the physical standards that they can
pass the PT portion to even make it the.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Boot camp, absolutely, Richard. In fact, they've done two things
now in the military. They've reduced the standards, but the
other you've done is they have a pre boot camp
trial where they try and get you healthier so that
you do meet the standards. But again, that's pretty frightening,
and that's a very good point. It is a national
security issue. And I'll just this is made briefly. This

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is me as a little kid, Gregory, the Italian little kid.
Hatch my chicks and give me a I had shake
in my head. But when I got diabetes, my mother
just couldn't handle it, and God bless her, and she
made sure that we I implemented what I was eating
and had a lifestyle more like horror. And then in

(22:15):
the middle picture here I'm showing you me Getty'sbrough College,
just football player. And to the right of that is
me as a busy cardiologist, putting in stents all night.
Heart attack, Richard, how many? How many was it?

Speaker 8 (22:29):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Lodus? What was it? You used?

Speaker 5 (22:32):
I was drinking thirty six cheerry cokes a week, three
toilve pecks, went for the house, went for the office,
went in the car, Richard. I'm sorry, at least at
least through six. Because sometimes I will go to the restaurant,
have one, or we bring in lunch at the office,
I have another one, or stop by.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
The bending machining. So yeah, minimum thirty six per week.
And Richard, I share that passion. I had the same
mid year. Sure it GOCU is my favorite. And oh
my gosh, but yes, I don't want to get carried away. Guys.
Let me just tell you what we're showing. What I'm
showing here is a left hand column of vibrance, love life,

(23:14):
picking up their grand children. Do whatever you want to do, Richard,
I don't know about you, because sometimes I go find
a field, I hit the sled. I can still do it. Yes,
go do sprints. But the point is, and I'm not
even as healthy as I should be yet, but the
point is we always have to work on it. And
I'm showing you a column that gives you a long,
vibrant life and health. Spin liver disease. You don't know this,

(23:39):
maybe you do, but there's a thing called fatty liver
disease and it was first discovered in nineteen eighty. Okay,
this is unbelievable. And it was discovered in kids. And
I said, wait a minute, you have alcoholic liver disease.
But you're eight years old. You're not drinking alcohol, are you?

Speaker 1 (23:54):
No?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Oh? Wow, you have this thing called fatty liver disease,
which now now you know, effects like a gigantic number
of kids, a gigantic number of adults. For a long time,
it's uh silent disease. Doctors too often don't look for it.
It's discociated with diabetes and has a lot to do

(24:16):
with what we eat, like fruit toasts and sugar is
glucose and fruit toase. Fruit TOAs goes right to your
liver and starts poisoning your liver, okay, and leads to
you know, chronic liver disease. What is the most common
cause of chronic liver disease and is becoming the number
one reason for liver transplants in the world now in

(24:38):
this incredible fatty liver right, and it's all associated with
obesity and diabetes, inflammation, all this stuff. It's all in
there together. And so when I see when you and
I are sitting on a park bench, Richard, at hanging
out Houston or Atlanta, I don't know. I just look
around and I see everybody with the big waste, thinking, God,

(25:02):
I got to have a talk with you because I
love you. And then when my waist gets big, I said,
oh God, what are you doing? And I can always
find out. But so one is we call nutrition, but
it is what we eat, it's what we drink. We
should be drinking water. It is purified reverse osmosis. Green tea, okay,
and I get green tea to decaffeinated and green tea

(25:25):
is really healthy, but in a decaffeinated a certain way
Swiss water method, not with all the toxic chemicals and
what we drink the water out plastics. So this will
scare you. It's a real thing, Okay. But a study
came out a couple months ago where prodded artery surgery
patients right half of them had plastic, and the prodded arteries, Wow,

(25:49):
and the plastic and the protid arteries predicted you're gonna
die earlier. You're gonna be sicker than the persone who
already has a bed horse because they have proddat disease
but didn't have the plastic. So what I'm trying to
say is what we put on our skin, the water
we drink, all this what we might wave things in.

Speaker 7 (26:11):
You wave your food and plastic, you're heating it up,
moving those molecules into.

Speaker 6 (26:16):
The food You've gotten class or ceramic cannot use plastic.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Right, glass all the time, and I packed everything in
glass on the refrigerator. Very important. Now I got a
water filter, I got this, I got that. But I'm
not crazy. What I'm trying to say is I used
to think this was crazy stuff, but now I know
the biology of it, and I know the data. But
the other thing, Russ, thank you for pointing out. It's

(26:43):
not just the food we're talking about. And the best
food is the food that doesn't have labels. It's hidden
in the corner of the grocery store. And we have
to teach people Christialer's vegetables. There's a gazillion of them,
I put anyway. Anyway, we have to teach people and
that there's an abundance of wonderful things out there, abundance

(27:07):
if we just let people know that, and then how
to prepare it and what cooking oils to use and
not to use, like like olive oil is improves your life.
All these other the Omega three, but all the Omega
six oils are very harmful to your health. But also
the packaging is what I wanted to mention. The packaging

(27:27):
is full of poisons and things were called toxins and chemicals. Again,
eating at home with the community and all that love
also is all molecules of emotion and your biology, Okay,
and that also improves your health. And eating out is
a very treacherous road if you're going to do that

(27:48):
a lot. Yeah. So that's a little bit on nutrition.
And then I want to talk about I don't use
the word exercise, and I don't use the word did
it ever because talking about dietary patterns, right, not dying it.
Diets are not sustainable. They don't work. You can be
able to thousand diets. You have to get a healthy

(28:10):
dietary pattern and whatever we call it, if we call it,
it doesn't matter. The Blue Zone diet or the Mediterranean
dietary patterns all the same. They're all commonalities. What I
told you, Okay, there's no difference here. And but and
then joyous movement is the point. I don't like the

(28:30):
word to use extra. Yeah, I'd like the glorious movement.
And wherever you are, if you need to get off
the couch, if you need to go walking, And yeah,
I have my warror ring. Okay. That tells me heart
rate variability. It tells me how I'm doing, and if
I wake up, it says, Greg, You're gonna feel terrible today.
It's right, But I like it Richard and Russ, because

(28:52):
it tells me how many steps I walk a day,
and most importantly for me, by contrasts with a lot
of the other things avail. It tells me about heart
rate variability, which is a balance of my red battery
cable and my blue and my black battery cable. We
aught our bodies run on two cables, and it's called

(29:13):
the automatic nervous system. And that's why my blood vessels
constrict when I stand up and I don't pass out,
and that's my heart rate, and my pupils get big
and small. I sweat or don't sweat. It's the two
cables in your body, the automatic nervous system, and it
impacts everything. And we have to have that imbalance. And

(29:34):
then that's another thing Bagel tone we could talk about
and too much. We live in a life where we're
in the room with the lion, so our rocket fuel,
our et benephrine is going sky high all the time,
and that hurts our brain and our body. It causes
accelerating aging and premature debt, heart failure and other things.

(29:58):
So we have to have a balance to the bag
old tone, the rest and digest and regenerative phase. And
that's what my heart rate variability monitoring tells me. The
numbers aren't important. What's important is to trend over weeks
and months anyway. So joyous activity, we could talk about
it all day, but it's essential. It prolongs your life,

(30:21):
and no physical activity in itself will not get you healthy.
It's fantastic and all these things are synergistic. But if
you're eating all the stuff that's not good for you
that we talked about, you can exercise all you want,
it's not gonna matter. Now. The other thing I want
to talk about is stress, real fast stress is a

(30:43):
physiologic thing, and whether you're aware of it or not,
and whether it's physical stress or emotional stress, bad relationships,
toxic relationships. This is all biology pouring into you and
forms of stress we're aware of it or not.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
Not.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Sleeping is a terrible form of stress. Stress, disrupture, metabolism
and all the things we talk about that are critical
for life, your mitochondrial function, this and that. So it's
truly important that are we're aware how to manage stress,
is my point, and that has to do with the

(31:23):
balance and the autonomic nervous system and things we can
do to increase our vagal tone. The other thing that's
really critical that people don't get is restorative sleep. One
of the most important things for health and obesity and
everything else. And when you don't get the sleep that
you need on a routine basis, This is all biology.

(31:47):
It's not somebody's opinion on the street. But it will
make you eat. It changes all the hormones and nerves
in your body. It changes everything that you makes you
who you are. You can't do it affective leap without
restorative sleep, and we have an all course on sleep.
Breathing is important. The other thing I wanted another pillar

(32:10):
is social connection. And we know that we have an
epidemic now isolation in America. Okay, people on social media.
We're on social media. Now, don't tout this, but one
hour a week, one hour week.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
But this is this is this is a good thing, though, doctor,
because we're doing film study and breaking this.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Now.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Don't think it that way. You just think we're in
blocking roles. Yeah, we're going through the actions and note
that's what we're doing exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I'm with you, guys. But the point I'm getting that
a social connection isolation is now been declared a major
public health crisis. It also leads to chronic disease and
premature death. So all these things are real biological issues. Yes, Russ,
I want to add hydration.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
And you mentioned a filter that uses I have a
Burki filter, so it uses a stone to sandstone to
filter the water.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Yes, it eliminates ninety nine percent of the toxins and
so on, costs nothing once you buy it last forever.
I don't have to throw away all those plastic bottles
that held my water in him and gotten hot and
cold and hot and cold. So whatever that plastic was shedding.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
At that time went into that water.

Speaker 7 (33:26):
Instead, I get it from the tap, which came from
the reservoir through the filter.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
It's about as healthy as you're going to get, absolutely,
and Russ to support that that there are systems that
I think are wonderful. I'm going to get one that
I can put under the sake so I can use
tapwitter again and get rid of plastic. I used to
buy the glass bottles with the pollogrino, but that's difficult
and all that. So I'm going to go with topwitter

(33:51):
that I know has a good filter. The problem I'm
finding is I can't find a good filter that I
can count on to get all the plastics. And you
have no idea. I will just share with your audience
what's in drinking water. There's everything from depic code and
anti seizure medicines and estrogens and poisons and plastics and

(34:13):
forever chemicals. So you really need and the best filter
so far mechanism is reverse osmosis. And I hate to
say it, but there is one product of plastic bottled water.
When I have to do it, I go to that
because it's reverse osmosis. Whether they get it from a
tap or wherever they say they get it. Most of

(34:34):
these spring waters are nonsense that are from the paths somewhere.
But as long as they have reverse osmosis.

Speaker 7 (34:41):
And what is for our audience, what is reverse osmosis?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
It's just a mechanism by which they purify water. I
don't think. Okay, yeah, it's just a mechanism by which
they do it. Just for mechanisms by which they decafinate things.
But the TWITTER method is real and non chemical. But anyway,
I will just and then I'm going to just go

(35:07):
through this briefly, but I'm going to say social connection, okay,
community love, spirituality, all these things are critical to who
you are biologically and how you are expressed every day
in life, and we all need that. And also it

(35:29):
also has to do with again, when I was growing
up on my Italian relatives driving me crazy talking, but
the meal went forever and my cheeks got pinched a
thousand times. Actually, when we eat slower and we eat
with intention, and we eat with community, everything physiologically and

(35:52):
biologically is better. Is the point. It's not someone's opinion.
This is all evidence based science. And spirituality also makes
a big difference in how we feel and how we
function and how long we live a healthy life. The
last thing I'll say is avoiding things that are risky.

(36:14):
And here's the question. This is the real challenge to
educate people between health promoting and health adverse because most
of us don't know that, and there's so many things
in our everyday life. I don't want to get carried away,
all right, but I'll just think about what I've gone
through over the last couple of years. It's not crazy stuff.

(36:37):
My father was a fireman and a barber, so I
saw people die from house fires. Today they don't do that.
What I mean is emerger responders. Firefighters don't put out
of fires today. What they do is they save lives
with CPR and healthcare issues. Right. The point is everybody

(36:59):
has a bed, and most people don't realize all the
toxins and flame retardant stuff that's in a bed. And
then you'll realize they can get an organic bed without
all that stuff for less expensive than they can get
a toxic bed. But the point is, Wow, you're creating
products that we use or the stuff that we put

(37:19):
on our hair and our skin, and all those things
keep adding up over lifetime to cause over time, it's
all these things that add up to hurt your biology
and hurt your metabolism, and all these things then lead
to high blood pressure, obesity, and all these things are symptoms,

(37:40):
they're not diseases. I know. If you're not feeling well,
please don't ever accept that you're okay because your lab
is okay. That just means you're in the wrong place.
Are you with me? Yeah, your doctor's looking in the
wrong place. And if you're always looking under the light,

(38:00):
and you're only gonna see what's under the light. But
most of us have stuff that's in the dark. Try
to shine the light into the dark and keep looking.
And I just wrote a chapter in a best selling
book I was so privilegial of mental health. It came
out last week, and maybe I can give Russ a
copy of that chapter. But it has all this in there,
because mental health is the same thing chronic disease. It's

(38:24):
all the same mechanism, and you have to be careful. Richard.
I want to warn your audience about supplements. And again,
we're sold a bill of goods by a lot of people.
A lot of supplements are actually harmful. Yes, there are
some supplements, I think, but again, if there's a compelling

(38:47):
clinical situation, and I know it's a clean supplement, I
know who makes it. I've looked at the certificate of authenticity,
so I know there's no toxins and heavy metals and
poisons in it. I know it's not rancid fish oil.
I know it's a good product because I saw it
with my eyes. The company showed that to me. But

(39:09):
I think if you have a measurable deficiency and you
can't correct it with food, and you're looking into the
reasons why you couldn't correct it with nutrition, then the
supplement is really helpful for a period of time, the
appropriate supplement to correct a measurable deficiency. Why you're really

(39:31):
working on what matters? Why is stor a measurable nutritional
deficiency and what am I doing to really correct it?
The point here is to accomplish sustainable health, and there's
no fast bullet. It's a matter of what we do
over time in a cumulative way that makes the difference.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
I have a couple of questions Russ, all right, One
really quick one is there is a chart that shows
per sent by fat and what age groups.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
As you age, they.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
Ramp it up in terms of what is considered a
healthy percent body fat. Is that a valid notion or
is it in fact should be the same thing no
matter what age you're.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
No, it does change because we get older. Oftentimes people
lose muscle mass. Unfortunately it's and if it's too much
muscle mass, it's called charcopenia, and that it's dangerous in itself.
Brus I think you have to look at the whole picture.
And again there's a lot of thin people that you
and I would look at and say that person's thin

(40:37):
where they're small. But if we measure their waste and
do the waste to have ratio waste to hype ratio
or just their waiste, we say, wow, you have that
inflammatory organ in your tommy that's causing you to be
sick and reflecting that you're sick. So that's a very
simple thing that everybody can do and then other people can.

(40:59):
But yes, it's probably a good thing to look at
percent body wat but body weight, but too often we
get carried away like a dexas scan is the best
thing right that they do frosteoporosis as they do the
right program to look at percent body fat. But what
I'm saying is, Russ, I don't really need that to
tell me when my body fat is not good or

(41:20):
my muscle mass is not good that I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (41:25):
We can't paint the brush with the world of the
Tello brush there, you.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Know, he rush Russ, Russ, I'm not going to accept
that at all because it's not the Nintello brush. It's
your opinion. And what I'm saying. What I'm saying is
I'm giving you medical based facts you've not been Russ.
You've not been in my boots taking care of patients

(41:52):
and being a patient at the same time. Again, wait,
did you see this? Oh black mother? Way that two
more flying we get there penalties in your boxes. Okay,

(42:12):
because we're looking for truth here, Russ. Okay, Now, if
you want to have a talk on per set body
weight and being my we can do that in our time.
But I remember in past years, I've had the flight
with you to get rid of this being my bullshit right,
and they gave and sourst a lot of people in
bars what we can't that's been my but it's started

(42:35):
payrush for Uss. I haven't spent years saving my own
life going back to the Cleveland clinic all the time.
I haven't done that to paint and the tallow paper.

Speaker 7 (42:46):
Missed my effort, Doctor Ntel, you missed my inference.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
What you missed it completely? Maybe you should express it
more accurately.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Anyway, ee again, just let me finish the notion.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Oh go ahead, Ross.

Speaker 7 (43:06):
It was really simple. Your expertise and experience is what
I was referring to. So many people are ignorant of
so many things. I'm sitting here writing notes and I've
been studying this for quite a while and I'm learning
things today, so I wouldn't consider myself Okay.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Well for us, I'll tell you what really turned my head. Hey,
when I looked at the Irvine Page, I'll tell you what.
He's a guy that talked about athos crossis and when
FDR was dying from essential hypertension another misnomer. Okay, always
essential to stay alive, and the world said you're dying,

(43:44):
and yet the Russians took him to took advantage of him.
Then he was having heart failure and strokes. But what
I'm trying to say is an even Irvine Page who
then started the field of hypertension at Cleveland Clinic, and
we owe so much to today. But he's the one
really said everything is interconnected biologically and hypertension, and that

(44:06):
led to the concept of what we know now. Hypertension
is a symptom of inflamed blood vessels. Athos grosses is
a symptom of inflamed blood vessels. So I'm trying to
show you how Saul interrelated is my point, that's all.
And it's not my paint brush. It's stuff that I
had to go back and I could put Stenson all night.

(44:27):
But doctor Fabularo, as doctor Fabulau said in nineteen sixty
seven when he started bypass surgery at the Cleveland Clinic,
this is a palliat of procedure. We're not treating a disease.
So the point here is to treat what's under the
hood so people can have sustainable health and vibrance and
a wonderful health span, not just how long you live,

(44:51):
but how long you live with vigor and love and
life and that kind of Absolutely, and I'm trying to
say it's biologically. It's all biology. It's the biology of life.
And again r Us and again, how frustrated I was
privileged to be there all night putting in bloom pumps
and stands and devices somebody having a heart attack. There's

(45:11):
no greater feeling in the world to leave that cath
lab and say we did something good. Okay, but I
can do a lot better for the world with this
different approach. And by this different approach, we know that
we can reverse chronic disease, we can improve management of

(45:33):
diabetes or wait, and we can prevent it as well.
So I'm trying to give you some of the six
keyp great sir. Yeah. Again, and for NFL alumni, you
have all paid the price. You've all been through it
where you had a mindset and an awareness and a presence,

(45:56):
and now we just need to redirect that a little bit.
And again we could even be having the same talk
about prostate health, okay, and about nutrition and prostate cancer,
whether you've been treated or not treated. So this is
something that just the whole medical world. That's not how

(46:17):
we've gotten the practice with the hammer and nail thing
or treating tip of the iceberg symptoms without getting what's
under the iceberg. Okay, that's the medical system we're stuck
with right now, and so we have an obligation to
each do our little part and have In fact, I'm
going to amplify this. I'm going to try and bring

(46:40):
a whole ten week program, twelve week program based on
my life experience and what I learned with from the
Cleveland Clinics program for Life. I'm going to try to
bring that online in the fall. Richard and Russ wonderful. Yeah,
So again there's a way to help people. But what
I'm trying to say it may be it's a great thing.

(47:02):
We don't want somebody to have a heart attack, but
if they do, we want them to be able to
reverse that chronic disease so then three months later they
don't get a stroke and that kind of thing. And
I'm not score. And the last thing I'll say too
about obesity is that it reduces how long you live

(47:25):
by about fifteen years guys.

Speaker 9 (47:28):
By about fiften to fifteen years and an incredible So again,
this chronic disease epidemic of which obesity, mental health, crisis, overweight.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
And I've listened to your shows, Richards are fantastic. You're
hitting on all these things is tremendous. Thank you and
Russ your efforts are fantastic. But I think it's important
that we really get what matters here, and it's not
somebody's opinion. And we have so many opinions us out
there that unfortunately aren't really based on real life, on

(48:06):
real things, on science, on evidence based right, So that's
what we have to really be careful of and be
critical of before we go and ask people to apply
it to their lives. And that's why I'm trying to say,
is just the six or seven pillars of health, and again,
these chronic diseases that we have are just a few,

(48:29):
and they're all different faces of the same. What we
have medical terms for internal immune dysregulation and oxidata stress,
and that's what we mean by chronic low grade inflammation.
And now we know what feeds that, right sort of speak,
and we know how to stop that process, and then
we know how oftentimes we can repair the damaged metabolism

(48:55):
from those things. And that's what we're all here to do. Absolutely. Yeah,
And Russ forgive me. I don't forgive me, Russ, I
don't care. This is locker room talk, Doc, there's no
forgiving in the locker room.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
We notice memes that are successful. Figure it out in
the locker room. They figured it out in the film room.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
We get on the.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Whiteboard, we all have to agree. Sometimes we get a
little chippy, but we got we have the same mission,
we have the same mindset.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Work it out. We're gonna work it out when we
get on a few And Richard, I'm with you. And
it's funny how we've been influenced by a lot of
the same people. And it's interesting. Again. The whole point
here is if you look back in your life at
the people who have touched your life, okay, And it's
the same thing they have influenced to our biology and

(49:45):
who we are, just like all the things that we
eat and if we're sedentary or have joyous movement in
our life. And yeah, those film rooms taught me a lot.
Richard a guy like me who had no and went
I had no room to cheat. So if I didn't
do the technique, I'm not going to succeed. And that's

(50:05):
not we're on the field.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
At least you were on the field here, it's just
left out.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
It's probably better off not on the field, because I
got to tell you when Joe Mowglia, Okay, he's a
d now at the Coast of Carolina, but he was
at a Fordham at FORID and prep at Fordham University
and his first job he applied to two hundred and
fifty six schools to be a head coach out of
college at high school. Only one school took him. What

(50:35):
a blessing. Archberr Academy in Delaware, claim my Delaware. But
and I know we still care about it. Russ. Maybe
you're better off not on the field. Why I say that,
because we had sticks and stones and rocks and broken
class and I know we hate people to do that
at night on our practice field no turf. But the

(50:56):
point is all these are good lessons in life and
we're all here to help you, but we have to
do it in an honest way. And we're really overwhelmed today.
Like I've heard Richard say, before you walk into the
grocery store and it's overwhelming, right, I could just all
made to feeling to us. And I know I've heard
Richard and the team talk about food labels, and I

(51:20):
know this is important to me. But like in the
nineteen nineties, people like doctor Castelli from Freming in Art
Study and Dean Rnish a bunch of people, they fought
to get any food labels on. They fought for that
for years. For us, this thing with obesity is a disease. Yeah,
I could go on about that all day, and it's

(51:42):
been recognized as a disease for a long time. And
what we've tried to do here is talk about causes,
multiple causes and as Richard said, cumulative over time. And
again this other word with comorbidities. We have to get
rid of that because these aren't comorbidities, they're different faces

(52:05):
of all the same abnormal biology. Whether you call it obesity, hypertension, diabetes,
they're all just a few different fases of the same
internal metabolic derangement with the same causes. So again, when
you're treating the whole person and you're improving your biology,

(52:29):
that's why if you treat one or two of these things,
then you're risk for all these bid things that goes
down dramatically. And again the point is that it takes time.
But I'll give you an example, high blood pressure. Right,
if we apply just some of these things to people

(52:50):
with high blood pressure, we could dramatically de prescribe, take
away their need for multiple medications just with If you
want to call this a better lifestyle, if you want
to call this functional medicine, it doesn't matter exactly.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
But this is all phenomenal information. And we have one
heck with squad that we're putting on a field against
the Battle of Lasi. We thank you so much to
our our teammate, doctor Greg Matillo. Again, the great Russ Allen,
we call him the Mountain of muscle, always a critical
player and all this, and we thank you for.

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