KCAA: Wellness Jocks (Sat, 6 Sep, 2025)

KCAA: Wellness Jocks on Sat, 6 Sep, 2025

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Welcome to Wellness Jocks, where Athletes meets Wellness Innovations, starring
Rich Walker and Russ Allen.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
We are so glad to have you on the show.
We're so glad to have all of our wonderful teams
pass at prison. If you know anyone who needs support,
who is in the battle of dias obesity, have to
joined us. I want to focus on our two amazing
teammates that I brought all today. One of them is
our og, the man who has been there from day one,

(01:17):
mister Russ Allen. He is the brain shout of the
Tackle of BC program. He's the one that I bet
in Vegas when I was bording chips cracktor of the
cookies near thing at four hundred plus ponds and here
I am today, So I'm so grateful to half of
Here are we doing today.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Right, Richard, I'm doing fantastic and so is so great
to see you and be able to share the things
we're learning about backling our obcity. My story was I
lost fifty pounds, but before picture was literally in front
of the sign in.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Death Valley, so you could do it. After that, my
wife lost seventy. So as a couple, we really took
this on together and it's really taking a new direction
in my life.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
And it's like you, I had a transformative journey and
it really is such an honor to be.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Here, absolutely, and it is a pleasure and honor. Guys,
bring out your no pads, drop questions in a chat.
If you have any, email us when we'll get the
questions to doctor Ntello to provide you with answers. He
is a gurup in this battle against obesity from the
perspective as a medical professional. Obviously he's a cardiologist. He's

(02:29):
got infinite amount of experience dealing with people that are
dealing with this obesity crisis. But he also has a
personal pivot to this as will and I'm gonna let
him talk about that as well. He is a trusted
medical professional in this business, has been dealing with patients
in the co morbidities of obesity. So it is such

(02:50):
an honor to have you here. Greg and Telo. This
is the last time I will use this word because
now you're a teammate. We're no longer going to call
your GIFST. You're now a teammate, a new teammate, Doctor Greggy.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Thank you, Richard, and thank you us. It's been pleasure
to work with us and tackle obesity and fight against
diabetes for a couple of years now. And thank you
so much and proud of both of you for what
you do. All the people you're helping is fantastic. And
it's a beautiful day, and we should start out with
some gratitude and know why we're here. Have the mindset,

(03:21):
and why we're here is to improve. Actually, we're here
not just to prevent and not just to better manage,
but to reverse chronic disease. And writing it out, we're
flooded with an epidemic of chronic disease in our country
and what that means is it's the leading cause of disability,
greatest reason for health care spending, greater than ninety percent

(03:47):
of health care spending, and greatest cause of premature death.
And we're talking about things like stroke, heart attack, Alzheimer's dementia,
premature dementia, obesity, diebetis, hypertension, kidney disease, and actually all
these things are a symptom of the flame that's out

(04:09):
of control inside us from the exposures we have all
the time. And what I want to do is make
this very real to people, because the purpose of this
today is to tell you how we can do this.
It's very doable. It's just oftentimes we're not aware of things,
and that the NFL alumni are legends, models for society,

(04:32):
models for kids, and have a tremendous impact. And each
of us suffers with one chronic illness for another, our
families do the people around us, and there's a lot
that we can do to help ourselves and help other people.
And that's what we're going to go through today.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Doctor Nattello, I'd love for you to share a little
bit about your own experience as you youth and struggling
with type two diabetes.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
And yeah, we'll leave it. Let you go for us.
I thought when I was in my early teenage years,
I had diabetes, and my mother, who grew up on
a farm but worked as a professional waitress in Philadelphia
at the pub, and my father was a barber, and
my mother just wouldn't stand for it. My mother like
went out of control when the doctor said here's insulin.

(05:20):
At age I don't know, eleven or twelve, and I
was very overweight, I was obese, and my mother just
wouldn't have that. And my mother imposed on me her
lifestyle habits having grown up on a farm, and actually
reversed my diabetes. And at the time, it's interesting because

(05:43):
at the time it was called adult onset diabetes versus
like one diabetes. Right, type one diabetes about five percent
of people, but overwhelmingly ninety five percent of diabetes is
type two. And at the time we didn't know that
the doctor set you're going to die with that insult.
My mother took a risky chance and straightened my life

(06:05):
out and what I eat and what I ate and
what I was exposed to, and actually resolved me of diabetes,
which has come back. At times we're threatened to come
back in my life. But I lost the obesity. I
lost the diabetes for good, pretty much, and I'm forever
grateful for that. And I'll show you that as we
go on. And I'm just going to show a few slides,

(06:26):
but i'll show you as a college football player versus
later on as a busy interventional cardiology carrying Twinkies around
in my pocket and drinking cokes and not sleeping for years.
But the different, same bm I. But I'm going to
show you the difference between health and illness. And then

(06:48):
and again in my adult life, I Richard and Russ.
I was, Oh, there was something wrong with me, and
I had to go to one doctor after another, and
everybody said, you're working too hard, don't worry about it.
He was just working too hard, and I said, no,
there's something wrong with me. And actually I was pretty sick.
And finally got a diagnostic label. And then they tried

(07:12):
to just put different layers of paint on the hood
without addressing the engine under the hood and without getting
to the heart of the matter, and they all meant well.
And then I was privileged because I could go back
to everything I had learned but maybe didn't learn during
my education into Cleveland Clinic over the last years of

(07:34):
the history, they set every day to save lives and
care for life. So I went back and was privileged
to go back and get re educated rather than just
putting stens and heart attack patients, which is fantastic and honorable.
But even the first doctor that the doctor that did
the first bypass surgery or a five bolaro Cleveland Clinic

(07:56):
said athoscrosis is a disease, and I can do bypass surgery,
but I'm not treating a disease. And we know that
because we do a bypass and someone comes back with
the stroke where they still have a high blood pressure.
They're all different faces of the same internal inflammation. And Richard,
I don't want to bore your audience with ox the

(08:17):
distress at immune dust regulation, but there's an internal flame
that gets out of control and then it's manifests as
chronic diseases, of which there's all a handful of which
obesity and overweight are major issues. At about forty percent
of Americans are overweight, and if you combine about three

(08:40):
out of four Americans are either overweight or obese, about
forty five percent or obese and we'll talk about what
obesity means a little bit as we go on, But yeah,
I have had the walk to talk. I've had to
learn and go back and get enlightened repeatedly and at
many years doing that, Richard, and had to change my

(09:01):
whole career focus, my whole vocational focus, and get enlightened. Unfortunately,
I had the resources to go do that and save
my own life as well, and then learn a better
way to help people. Actually, and the way that I
view life now is to help people with their lifespan,

(09:24):
their health span. Right, It's not just how long you do,
but you want to have it health You want to
be vigorous, if you want to go out and you
want to pick up your chut, your grandchildren or your
kids or whatever you want to do. You want to
be able to do that for as long as possible
and have a vibrant, exciting, happy life. Right. So that's

(09:47):
what about and that's what we're going to talk about today,
how to do that. I'm glad you.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Brought up to the fact that you you had to
re educate yourself on what obesie and specifically to you
how you treat it. So I noticed is sort of
a pain with a broad brush. But how do we
re educate our medical community because I think a lot
of the people that are in practice right now, give
me the I'm just speaking here, but it seems like
a lot of people that are in practice are dealing

(10:16):
with the Baccian versus prevention. So how do.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
We turn that curve where we're.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Educating our medical officials to focus on prevention versus treatment.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
That's a good point, and Richard, the way I look
at it, it's not just prevention, okay, it's also about
improving how we manage chronic disease and furthermore, reverse it,
reverse it, reverse that astrossis put diabetes and remission, get
rid of things that are driving these chronic diseases, and

(10:48):
turn chronic diseases around and turn lives around. But to
answer your question, I don't want to be derogatory or
negative at all, but we're talking about things that have
been going on for generations now, and what we've developed
since World War Two is a hammer now. Okay, everybody's

(11:12):
in a hammer now, and it neglects the biologic differences
between you, me and Russ and the things that are
driving that and those faces of chronic disease. So we
really have become very siloed. And I could talk all
day about we have guys that are into the brain thing.
We have guys that are into the GI microbiome. We

(11:33):
have guys that are in hypertension. But we've not been
educated to listen to what we've already learned since the
nineteen forties, that we are what we are in life
every day, and how we feel and how we function,

(11:54):
how long we live is to how well our orchestra works.
They're all pieces in the symphony in our body. And
we call it systems biology, and it's all connected. Your
gut is connected to your brain. Your gut goes faster
as your brain than your brain goes to your gut.

(12:17):
But all these things are so intimately related, and that
determines who we are, Richard, and how we feel and
function every day. And I'm going to give you some
a group of common things that holds the answer to
how we can optimize that and optimize our function and
vibrance in life terrific. One of the things that we

(12:42):
really try we probably didn't answer. But what we're doing
now is we have it's not just medicine, but you
can't give someone this in a fifteen minute office visit.
Doctors are really pounded now and again the medical schools
are starting to implement this a better education, but then

(13:04):
as far as delivery, it's not possible to deliver this
in brief office visits, let alone have and a doctor
may not have time in her life to go back
and relearn or gain a more enlightened perspective now, but
certainly they have an obligation, I believe, to provide access

(13:28):
to a system that will help them a patient learn
that and put those things into their daily life in
a happy, joyous way. And it's not about restricting or
you can't eat this. It's about opening the abundance of
life giving and life saving things that people are not
aware of. Unfortunately, we live in a society today that

(13:51):
things are upside down and inside out, meaning that everything
that is health adverse has been presented to us since
the nineteen eighties and nineteen seventies and nineties, that's been
presented to us as normal, and it's not normal. So
things are upside down and backwards and people have been

(14:15):
programmed like kids think Tony the Tiger is a wonderful
thing with flags and sugar right, and in again, I'll
say thirty or forty years ago, there were three hundred
and fifty products in the grocery store. Today there's thirty
five thousand.

Speaker 7 (14:31):
But if you really look at it, if you really
look at it, ninety five percent of them.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Are all the same thing. There're feed oils make it
six things heavily prized ult what we call ultra processed food,
and we have finition for that. But a way to
look at that would be if you take an apple
and then you compare it to getting the apple pie
and McDonald's. There's no correlation with the nutritional intention of

(14:59):
the apple. But yet people are buying that. Or you
think about kids are getting apple juice, right, they're getting
the balls to sugar and ib sugar ballster.

Speaker 8 (15:09):
Instally goes up chronic insulin and then for years you
develop insulin resistance, which is a precursor to it's chronic inflammation,
and it's a precursor to pre diabetes at obesity and
all those things.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
So what I'm trying to say is, but yet people
think I'm going to see my kid apple juice. It's
a wonderful thing. It's not. You're hurting your kid, and
there's so many things, but you think you're doing the
right thing. So our society has really misled us. And
it's economically driven by the four or five food companies
basically that we have in the world. And so we

(15:46):
really have to just help people get an awareness, but
more importantly than we have to show them the abundance
of things for their life that they don't know about.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Absolutely, that's a great point. That's where I was going
with the next question, is that one of the things
that we really emphasize on this show and through all
of our content is that I like to use the
saying that your food is your medicine, and if you
don't focus on it that way, then your medicine will
become your food.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Absolutely. And in fact, it's interesting that Richards through we
are some groups of medicine, the functional medicine people, which
I'm one of them, and I'm also American College of
Lifestyle Medicine kind of person. And so there's a big
emphasis now to bring these everyday things that we do
every day in our life, to bring these things into

(16:41):
what becomes our habits, our mindset, our emphasis. So we're
trying to do this and unfortunately, if we had all
the leaders in our country, because this is it's a
global issue now. But if we had all the people
in our country, all the leaders for healthal and business
together and make a stand, it would make a fast difference.

(17:04):
For right now, it's going to depend on the individual.
It's going to be personal accountability and awareness, and we
can go through some of the things we need. You
have to know why does this matter to me? Okay?
And what am I living for? And then we have
to know how to do it. Ye have to be

(17:27):
some slidespur Us today that you can dig into run.
Thank you so much. Yeah, let me pull them up
just to give you an introduction. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
And for those of you that are listening on our
podcast networks and also on our three radio stations, KSEA
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them available on our website so you can go tackle
BC dot com well hosted. There you see those old
video and the whole videos will be available on our

(17:58):
YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
On this slide on the top left, what I'm trying
to show you, and we could talk about gatorade later,
but actually, all right, let me divert for a minute. Sure, Okay,
Nixon to get elected had to come up with something big.
He came up with, we want to make food cheaper
and more readily available, and that was a major platform

(18:22):
for him and that really changed the industry. And then
when Gatorade got sold from the Gators, the National Championship Gators,
to Pepsi, they put fructose in that. And we can
talk about fructose as toxic and a major issue here
with obesity and liver disease that's epidemic now. But the

(18:43):
point is that as all the exposures we have in
our lifetime at the top, whether it's autoimmune disease, diabetes,
type two diabetes, asthma, autism, our chronic disease has exploded
over the years. Our genes haven't changed. What's changed is
what we're exposed to in our bodies every day over here.

(19:05):
Have a slide chronic diseases in America. And if this
doesn't make Rus's fault to share, nothing will. But Richard,
look at this, six out of ten Americans is unbelievable.
At least chronic disease four and ten half two or
more chronic diseases, and there's only a handful and they

(19:25):
are all different phases of the same underlying inflammation. But
chronic disease leading causes death and disability and accounts for
greater than ninety percent of health care spending. And then
I'm going to go further. I'm going to show you
the younger population. Even this is unbelievable. One out of
two people age eighteen to thirty four have more have

(19:48):
at least one chronic disease. One in four aged eighteen
to thirty four have at least two chronic diseases. And
every day there's new data cancer, and we're changing guidelines
doing colonoscopy earlier Mammogrand's earlier cancers happening in the thirties,

(20:08):
and the on set diabetes would change the type two
diabetes because kids get it and have type two diabetes
as a kid like I did, you have earlier complications
of premature death and heart attacks are happening in age
twenty and thirty. And then we'll go to another slide.
I want to give you the background of what we're
dealing with. This is a great study. There are two

(20:30):
great studies top left. What I'm showing is less than
one in ten percent of Americans are metabolically healthy because
with obesity, that's what we're talking about, is metabolism, the
physiologic process that are bodies that help us function and
keep us alive and ineligible to serve in the military.
Richard and russ seventy percent of people in the United States,

(20:56):
young people would not they're not qualify with their health
to serve in our military. Minded about doctor Cosgrove, former
CEO president of my professional home based Cleveland Clinic, the
state of our nation is only as good as the
state of our health.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
We actually had sorry General Mark Hurdling talk about the
fact that our obesity rate is a national security issue
and that they have to spend six times as much
to recruit one soldier now because of obesity because most
of the recruits fail to even make it to boot camp.
And then even further than that, they're graduating about forty

(21:39):
percent of the boot camp candidates that actually make it
the boot camp, thus bringing back and get them to
meet the B and MY standards in the physical standards
that they can pass the PT portion to even make
it the.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Boot camp, absolutely, Richard. In fact, they've done two things
now in the military. They've reduced the standards, but the
other you've done is they have a pre boot camp
trial where they try and get you healthier so that
you do meet the standards. But again, that's pretty frightening,
and that's a very good point. It is a national
security issue. And I'll just this is me briefly. This

(22:13):
is me as a little kid, Gregory, the Italian little kid.
Hatch my cheeks and give me a headache, shake of
my head. But when I got diabetes, my mother just
couldn't handle it, and God bless her, and she made
sure that we I implemented what I was eating and
had a lifestyle.

Speaker 9 (22:32):
More like her.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
And then in the middle picture here I'm showing you
me Gettysbrough College as football player. And to the right
of that is me as a busy cardiologist putting in
stents all night. Heart attack, Richard. How many many was it? Modus?
What was it you used to them?

Speaker 5 (22:52):
I was drinking thirty six cheerry cokes a week, three
toil pecks, went for the house, went for the office,
one in the.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Car, Richard.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
I'm sorry at least at least two and six, because
sometimes I will go to a restaurant at one, or
we bring in lunch at the office, I have another one,
or stop by the vending machining. So yeah, minimum thirty
six per week.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
And Richard, I share that passion. I had to say,
Minshew Srey Go is my favorite. And oh my gosh, well, yes,
I don't want to get carried away. Guys, let me
just tell you what we're showing. What I'm showing here
is a left hand column of vibrance, love life, picking
up their grand children. Do whatever you want to do. Richard.

(23:38):
I don't know about you, but sometimes I go find
a field, I hit the sled. I can still do it. Yes,
go do sprints. But the point is, and I'm not
even as healthy as I should be yet, But the
point is we always have to work on it. And
I'm showing you a column that gives you a long,
vibrant life and health. Spin liver disease. You don't know this,

(23:58):
maybe you do, but there's a thing called fatty liver
disease and it was first discovered in nineteen eighty. Okay,
this is unbelievable. And it was discovered in kids, and
I said, wait a minute, you have alcoholic liver disease. Well,
you're eight years old. You're not drinking alcohol, are you? No?
Oh wow, you have this thing called faty liver disease,

(24:19):
which now you know, affects like a gigantic number of kids,
a gigantic number of adults for.

Speaker 9 (24:26):
A long term.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
It's uh, silent disease. Doctors too often don't look for it.
It's ecociated with diabetes and has a lot to do
with what we eat, like fruit toasts and sugar is
glucose and fruit toase. Fruit toase goes right to your
liver and starts poisoning your liver, okay, and leads to

(24:48):
chronic liver disease. What is the most common cause of
chronic liver disease? And it's becoming a number one reason
for liver transplants in the world now in this incredible
fatty livered right, and it's all associated with obesity and diabetes, inflammation,
all this stuff. It's all in there together. And so

(25:09):
when I see when you and I are sitting on
a park bench, Richard at hanging out in Houston or Atlanta,
I don't know. I just look around and I see
everybody with the big waste, thinking, God, I got to
have a talk with you because I love you. And
then when my waist gets big, I say, oh God,
what are you doing? And I can always find out.
But so one is we call nutrition, but it is

(25:33):
what we eat, it's what we drink. We should be
drinking water. It is purified reverse osmosis. Green tea. Okay,
and I get green tea. It's decaffeinated, and green tea
is really healthy. But and it's decaffeinated a certain way
Swiss water method, not with all the toxic chemicals and
what we drink the water out plastics. So this will

(25:55):
scare you. It's a real thing, Okay. But a study
came out a couple months ago where prodded artery surgery
patients right half of them had plastic and the prodded
arteries Wow, and the plastic and the prodid arteries predicted
you're gonna die earlier. You're gonna be sicker than the

(26:15):
first one who already has a bed, of course, because
they have prodded disease but didn't have the plastic. So
what I'm trying to say is what we put on
our skin, the water we drink all this what we
might wave things in. You wave your food and plastic,
you're heating it up, moving those molecules into the food.

(26:37):
You've got written class or ceramic. Cannot use plastic, right,
Glass all the time? And I packed everything in glasses
on a refrigerator. Very important. Now I got a water filter,
I got this, I got that. But I'm not crazy.
What I'm trying to say is I used to think
this was crazy stuff, but now I know the biology
of it, and I know the data. But the other thing, Russ,

(27:00):
thank you for pointing out it's not just the food
we're talking about. And the best food is the food
that doesn't have labels. It's hidden in the corner of
the grocery store. Kay. And we have to teach people.

Speaker 10 (27:15):
Christopher's vegetables, there's a gazillion of them.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
But anyway, anyway, we have to teach people and that
there's an abundance of wonderful things out there, abundance. If
we just let people know that and then how to
prepare it and what cooking oils to use and not
to use, like like olive oil is improves your life.
All these other the Omega three, but all the Omega

(27:41):
six oils were very harmful to your health. But also
the packaging is what I wanted to mention. The packaging
is full of poisons and things were called toxins and chemicals. Again,
eating at home with the community and all that love
also is all molecules of emotion and you'r bi okay,

(28:01):
and that also improves your health. And eating out is
a very treacherous road if you're gonna do that a lot. Yeah,
So that's a little bit on nutrition.

Speaker 11 (28:11):
And then I want to talk about I don't use
the word exercise, and I don't use the word diet ever,
because we're talking about dietary patterns right, not dying it.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Diets are not sustainable. They don't work. You can be
able to as a diets. You have to get a healthy
dietary pattern. And whatever we call it, if we call it,
it doesn't matter. The Blue Zone diet or the Mediterranean
dietary pattern is all the same. They're all commonalities. What
I told you, Okay, there's no difference here. And but

(28:48):
and then joyous movement is the point. I don't like
the word to use extras. Yeah, I like wreos movement
and wherever you are if you need to get off
the couch, if you need to go walking, and yeah,
I have my word. Okay. That tells me heart rate variability.
It tells me how I'm doing, and if I wake up,
that says, Greg, You're gonna feel terrible today. It's right.

(29:09):
But I like it Richard and Russ because it tells
me how many steps I walk a day, and most
importantly for me, by contrast with a lot of the
other things available, it tells me about heart rate variability,
which is a balance of my red battery cable and
my blue and my black battery cable. We aught our

(29:30):
bodies run on two cables, and it's called the automatic
nervous system. And that's why my blood vessels constrict when
I stand up and I don't pass out, and that's
my heart rate, and my pupils get big and small.
I sweat or don't sweat. It's the two cables in
your body, the automatic nervous system, and it impacts everything

(29:52):
and we have to have that imbalance. And then that's
another thing Bagel tone we could talk about and too much.
We live a life where we're in the room with
the lion. So our rocket fuel our et benephrin is
going sky high all the time, and that hurts our
brain and our body. It causes accelerating aging and premature debt,

(30:16):
heart failure and other things. So we have to have
a balance to the vague old tone, the rest and
digest and regenerative phase. And that's what my heart rate
variability monitoring tells me. The numbers aren't important. What's important
is to trend over weeks and months anyway. So joyous activity,

(30:36):
we could talk about it all day, but it's essential.
It prolongs your life, and no physical activity in itself
will not get you healthy. It's fantastic, and it's all
these things are synergistic. But if you're eating all the
stuff that's not good for you that we talked about,
you can exercise all you want, it's not gonna matter. Now.

(30:58):
The other thing I want to talk about is stress.
It's real, fast. Stress is a physiologic thing. And whether
you're aware of it or not, and whether it's physical
stress or emotional stress, bad relationships, toxic relationships. This is
all biology pouring into you and forms of stress we're

(31:20):
aware of it or not. Not Sleeping is a terrible
form of stress. Stress, disrupture, metabolism and all the things
we talk about that are critical for life, your mitochondrial function,
this and that. So it's truly important that are we're
aware how to manage stress, is my point, and that

(31:42):
has to do with the balance and the autonomic nervous
system and things we can do to increase our vagal tone.
The other thing that's really critical that people don't get
is restorative sleep. One of the most important things for
health and obesity and everything else. And when you don't
get the sleep that you need on a routine basis,

(32:04):
this is all biology. It's not somebody's opinion on the street.
But it will make you eat. It changes all the
hormones and nerves in your body. It changes everything that
you makes you who you are. You can't do it
effectively without restorative sleep. And we have a whole course
on sleep. Breathing is important. The other thing I wanted

(32:27):
another pillar is social connection. And we know that we
have an epidemic now violation in America. Okay, people are
on social media or on social media. Now, don't count this,
but one hour a week, one hour a week. But
this is this is this is a good thing.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Though, doctor because we're doing film study and breaking this. Now,
don't think it that way. You just think we're in
locking rolls. Yeah, we're going through the actions of Note,
that's what we're doing exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I'm with you, guys. But the point I'm getting that
a social connection isolation is now been declared a major
public health crisis and also leads to chronic disease and
premature death. So all these things are real biological issues. Yes, Russ, I.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Want to add hydration, and you mentioned a filter that
uses I have a Burky filter, so it uses a
stone to sandstone to filter the water. Yes, it eliminates
ninety nine percent of the toxins and so on, costs
nothing once you buy it last forever. I don't have

(33:35):
to throw away all those plastic bottles that held my
water in him and gotten hot and cold and hot
and cold. So whatever that plastic was shedding.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
At that time went into that water. Instead, I get
it from the tap which came from the reservoir through
the filter. It's about as healthy as you're going to get, absolutely,
and Russ to support that that there are systems that
I think are wonderful. I'm going to get one that
I can put under the sake, so I can use
tapwitter again and get rid of plastic. I used to

(34:04):
buy the glass bottles with the pollogrino, but that's difficult
all that, so I'm going to go with top witter
that I know has a good filter. The problem I'm
finding is I can't find a good filter that I
can count on to get all the plastics. And you
have no idea. I will just share with your audience
what's in drinking water. There's everything from depic code and

(34:27):
anti seizure medicines and estrogens and poisons and plastics and
forever chemicals, so you really need and the best filter
so far mechanism is reversed osmosis. And I hate to
say it, but there is one product of plastic bottled water.
When I have to do it, I go to that

(34:48):
because it's reversed osmosis. Whether they get it from a
tap or wherever they say they get it, most of
these spring waters are nonsense that are from their path somewhere.
But as long as they every verse osmosis. And what
is for our audience, what is reverse osmosis. It's just
a mechanism by which they purify water. I don't think. Okay, yeah,

(35:12):
it's just a mechanism by which they do it, just
for mechanisms by which they decafinate things. But this Twitter
method is real and non chemical. But anyway, I will
just and then I'm going to just go through this briefly,
but I'm gonna say social connection, okay, community, love, spirituality,

(35:37):
all these things are critical to who you are biologically
and how you are expressed every day in life, and
we all need that. And also it also has to
do with again, when I was growing up on my
Italian relatives driving me crazy talking, but the meal went
forever and my cheeks got pinched a thousand times. Actually,

(36:03):
when we eat slower and we eat with intention and
we with community, everything physiologically and biologically is better. Is
the point. It's not someone's opinion. This is all evidence
based science. And spirituality also makes a big difference in
how we feel and how we function and how long

(36:27):
we live a healthy life. The last thing I'll say
is avoiding things that are risky. And here's the question.
This is the real challenge to educate people between health
promoting and health adverse because most of us don't know that,
and there's so many things in our everyday life. I

(36:49):
don't want to get carried away, all right, but I'll
just think about what I've gone through over the last
couple of years. It's not crazy stuff. My father was
a fireman and a barber, so I saw people die
from house fires. Today they don't do that. What I
mean is emerger responders. Firefighters don't put out the fires today.

(37:11):
What they do is they save lives with CPR and
healthcare issues. Right. But the point is everybody has a bed,
and most people don't realize all the toxins and flame
retardant stuff that's in a bed. And then you'll realize
they can get an organic bed without all that stuff
for less expensive than they can get a toxic bed.

(37:33):
But the point is, Wow, there creating products that we
use or the stuff that we put on our hair
and our skin, and all those things keep adding up
over lifetime to cause over time, it's all these things
that add up to hurt your biology and hurt your metabolism,

(37:54):
and all these things then lead to high blood pressure, obesity,
and all these things are symptoms and not diseases. I know,
if you're not feeling well, please don't ever accept that
you're okay because your lab is okay. That just means
you're in the wrong place. Are you with me? M Yeah,

(38:15):
your doctor's looking in the wrong place. And if you're
always looking under the light, and you're only gonna see
what's under the light, but most of us have stuff
that's in the dark. Try to shine the light into
the dark and keep looking. And I just wrote a
chapter in a best selling book I was so privileginal
of mental health. It came out last week, and maybe

(38:36):
I can give Russ a copy of that chapter. But
it has all this in there, because mental health is
the same thing chronic disease. It's all the same mechanism,
and you have to be careful. Richard. I want to
warn your audience about supplements. And again, we're sold a
bill of goods by a lot of people. A lot

(38:58):
of supplements are actually harmful. Yes, there are some supplements
I think, but but again, if there's a compelling clinical situation,
and I know it's a clean supplement, I know who
makes it. I've looked at the certificate of authenticity, so
I know there's no toxins and heavy metals and poisons
in it. I know it's not rancid fish oil. I

(39:21):
know it's a good product because I saw it with
my eyes. The company showed that to me. But I
think if you have a measurable deficiency and you can't
correct it with food, and you're looking into the reasons
why you couldn't correct it with nutrition, then the supplement

(39:42):
is really helpful for a period of time. The appropriate
supplement to correct a measurable deficiency. Why you're really working
on what matters? Why is there a measurable nutritional deficiency
and what am I doing to really correct it. The
point here is to accomplish sustainable health, and there's no

(40:04):
fast bullet. It's a matter of what we do over
time in a cumulative way that makes the difference. I
have a couple of questions we're russ all right.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
One really quick one is there is a chart that
shows percent body fat and what age groups.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
As you age, they ramp it up in terms of
what is considered a healthy percent body fat. Is that
a valid notion or is it in fact should be
the same thing no matter what age you're No, it
does change because we get older. Oftentimes people lose muscle mass. Unfortunately,

(40:43):
it's and if it's too much muscle mass. It's called charcopenia,
and that it's dangerous in itself. Brus. I think you
have to look at the whole picture. And again there's
a lot of thin people that you and I would
look at and say that person's thin where they're small.
But if we measure their weight and do the waist
a ratio waste to hype ratio or just their waste,

(41:05):
we say, wow, you have that inflammatory organ and you're temmy.
That's causing you to be sick and reflecting that you're sick.
So that's a very simple thing that everybody can do
and then other people can. But yes, it's probably a
good thing to look at percent body fat body weight,
but too often we get carried away like a dexas

(41:28):
scan is the best thing, right that they do f
osteoporosis as they do the right program to look at
percent body fat. But what I'm saying is, Russ, I
don't really need that to tell me when my body
fat is not good or my muscle mass is not
good that I'm sorry. We can't paint the brush with
the world of the tello brush there, you know, let's

(41:50):
hear rush Russ. Russ I'm not going to accept that
at all, because it's not the Nintello brush. It's your opinion.
And what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I'm giving
you medical based facts. You've not been, Russ. You've not
been in my boots taking care of patients and being

(42:12):
a patient at the same time. Again, wait, did you
see this, oh black way?

Speaker 12 (42:20):
That two more flying pedalties in your boxes? All okay,
because we're looking for truth here, Russ.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Okay, Now, if you want to have a talk on
per set body weight and being my we can do
that in our time. But I remember in past years
I've had the flight with you to get rid of
this being my bullshit, right and then and first a
lot of people in Barns newser what we can't that's
been my But it's starting to Gellow payrush for Uss.

(42:56):
I haven't spent years saving my own life, going back
to the Cleveland clinic all the time. I haven't done that.
The paint and the Tellow paper missed my effort, Doctor Natel,
he missed my inference. What you missed it completely?

Speaker 10 (43:12):
Maybe you should express it more accurately, Richard wowing it
anyway one again, just let me finish the notion.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Oh, go ahead, Ross.

Speaker 6 (43:26):
It was really simple. Your expertise and experience is what
I was referring to. So many people are ignorant of
so many things. I'm sitting here writing notes and I've
been studying this for quite a while and I'm learning
things today, so I wouldn't consider myself Okay, Well, well, Ross,
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Really turned my head. Hey, when I looked at the
Irvine Page. I'll tell you what. Here's a guy that
talked about athoscrossis and when FDR was dying from essential hypertension,
another misnomer. Okay, always essential to stay alive, and the
world said you're dying, and yet the Russians took took

(44:05):
advantage of him. Then he was having heart failure and strokes.
But what I'm trying to say is an even Irvine
Page who then started the field of hypertension at Cleveland Clinic,
and we owe so much to today. But he's the
one that really said everything is interconnected biologically and hypertension,

(44:25):
and that led to the concept of what we know now.
Hypertension is a symptom of inflamed blood vessels. Asteros grosses
is a symptom of inflamed blood vessels. So I'm trying
to show you how Saul interrelated. Is my point, that's all.
And it's not my paint brush. It's stuff that I
had to go back and I could put Stenson all night.

(44:46):
But doctor Fabularo, as doctor Fabulau said in nineteen sixty
seven when he started bypass surgery at the Cleveland Clinic,
this is a pallia to procedure. We're not treating a disease.
So the point here is to treat it's under the hood,
so people can have sustainable health and vibrance and a
wonderful health span, not just how long you live, but

(45:11):
how long you live with vigor and love and life
and that kind of Absolutely, and I'm trying to say
it's biologically. It's all biology. It's the biology of life.
And again r Us and again, how frustrated I was
privileged to be there all night putting in bloom pumps
and stands and devices somebody having a heart attack. There's

(45:31):
no greater feeling in the world to leave that cath
lab and say we did something good. Okay, but I
can do a lot better for the world with this
different approach. And by this different approach, we know that
we can reverse chronic disease, we can improve management of

(45:52):
diabetes or wait, and we can prevent it as well.
So I'm trying to give you some of this keep
good stuff, great sir. Yeah again, and for NFL alumni,
you have all paid the price. You've all been through
it where you had a mindset and an awareness and

(46:14):
a presence, and now we just need to redirect that
a little bit. And again we could even be having
the same talk about prostate health, okay, and about nutrition
and prostate cancer, whether you've been treated or not treated.
So this is something that just the whole medical world.

(46:36):
That's not how we've gotten the practice with the hammer
and nail thing or treating tip of the iceberg symptoms
without getting what's under the iceberg. Okay, that's the medical
system we're stuck with right now, and so we have
an obligation to each do our little part and have.
In fact, I'm going to amplify this. I'm going to

(46:59):
try and bring a whole ten week program, twelve week
program based on my life experience and what I learned
with from the Cleveland Clinics Program for Life. I want
to try to bring that online in the fall Richard
and Russ wonderful. Yeah, so again there's a way to
help people. But what I'm trying to say it may

(47:19):
not be it's a great thing. We don't want somebody
to have a heart attack, but if they do, we
want them to be able to reverse that chronic disease
so then three months later they don't get a stroke
and that kind of thing. And I'm not score. And
the last thing I'll say too about obesity is that

(47:43):
it reduces how long you live by about fifteen years guys,
by about fiften to fifteen years, and an incredible So again,
this chronic disease epidemic of which obesity mental health crisis
is overweight. And I've listened to your shows, Richards are fantastic.

(48:06):
You're hitting on all these things is tremendous. Thank you
and us. Your efforts are fantastic.

Speaker 7 (48:12):
But I think it's important that we really get what
matters here, and it's not somebody's opinion. And we have
so many opinions out there that unfortunately aren't really based on.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Real life, on real things, on science, on evidence based right,
So that's what we have to really be careful of
and be critical of before we go and ask people
to apply it to their lives. And that's why I'm
trying to say, is just the six or seven pillars
of health. And again, these chronic diseases that we have

(48:47):
are just a few, and they're all different faces of
the same. What we have medical terms for internal immune
dsregulation and oxidata stress, and that's what we mean by crime,
a low grade inflammation. And now we know what feeds
that right short of speak, and we know how to
stop that process, and then we know how oftentimes we

(49:11):
can repair the damaged metabolism from those things. And that's
what we're all here to do. Absolutely. Yeah, And Russ
forgive me. I don't forgive me, Russ, I don't care.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
This is locker room talk, Doc, there's no forgiving in
the locker room. We notice memes that are successful. Figure
it out in the locker room. They figured it out
in the film room. We get on the whiteboard, we
don't have to agree. Sometimes we get a little chippy,
but we got we have the same mission, we have
the same mindset.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Work it out.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
We're gonna work it out when we get on a few.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
And Richard I'm with you, And it's funny how we've
been influenced by a lot of the same people. And
it's interesting. Again, the whole point here is if you
look back in your life at the people who have
touched your life, okay, and it's the same thing. They
have influenced to our biology and who we are, just

(50:07):
like all the things that we eat and if we're
sedentary or have joyous movement in our life. And yeah,
those film rooms taught me a lot. Richard, a guy
like me who had no talent, I had no room
to cheat. So if I didn't do the technique, I'm
not going to succeed. And that's not we're on the field.

Speaker 6 (50:27):
At least you were on the field.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Here, it's just left out. It's probably better off not
on the field, because I gotta tell you when Joe Mowglia, Okay,
he's a d n NOL at coach Carolina, but he
was at a fordum at FORID and prep at FORDNA
University and his first job. He applied to two hundred
and fifty six schools to be a head coach out

(50:51):
of college at high school. Only one school took him.
What a blessing Archberr Academy in Delaware, claim my Delaware,
but and I know we still care about it. Russ.
Maybe you're better off not on the field. Why I
say that because we had sticks and stones and rocks
and broken glass and I know we hate people to
do that at night on our practice field no turf.

(51:15):
But the point is all these are good lessons in life,
and we're all here to help people, but we have
to do it in an honest way. And we're really
overwhelmed today, Like I've heard Richard say, before you walk
into the grocery store and it's overwhelming, right, I could
just all made to feeling to us. And I know
I've heard Richard and the team talk about food labels,

(51:39):
and I know this is important to me. But like
in the nineteen nineties, people like doctor Costelli from Preming
in Art study and Dean Rnish a bunch of people,
they fought to get any food labels on. They fought
for that for years. For us, this thing with obesity
is a disease. I could go on about that all day,

(52:01):
and it's been recognized as a disease for a long time.
And what we've tried to do here is talk about causes,
multiple causes, and as Richard said, cumulative over time, and
again this other word with comorbidities, We have to get
rid of that because these aren't comorbidities. They're different faces

(52:24):
of all the same abnormal biology. Whether you call it obesity, hypertension, diabetes,
they're all just a few different faces of the same
internal metabolic derangement with the same causes. So again, when
you're treating the whole person and you're improving your biology,

(52:49):
that's why if you treat one or two of these things,
then you're risk for all these bid things that goes
down dramatically. And again the point is that it takes time.
But I'll give you an example, high blood pressure. Right,
if we apply just some of these things to people

(53:09):
with high blood pressure, we could dramatically de prescribe, take
away their need for multiple medications, just with If you
want to call this a better lifestyle, if you want
to call this functional medicine, it doesn't matter exactly.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
But this is all phenomenal information. And we have one
heck with squad and we're putting on a field against
the battle of Lasi. We thank you so much to
our teammate, doctor Greg Matillo again, the great Russ Allen,
we call him the Mount of Muscle, always a critical
player and all this, and we thank.

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