KCAA: Wellness Jocks (Sat, 9 Aug, 2025)

KCAA: Wellness Jocks on Sat, 9 Aug, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
KCA Romelinda into Tham the station that did notice her behind.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome to Wellness Jocks where Athletes meets Wellness Innovations starring
Rich Walker and Russ Allen.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good morning everyone. My name is Richard Walker. Where it
was placed to have you here another Saturday morning, and
I am here today with a very dear friend of mine,
mister Russ Allen, a k a. The Wellness crash Dummy,
and he is here to enlighten us on so many
different topics as it could take us to the battle
against ob seve Russ s. Thanks you for joining us today, Richard.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
As you say, we're dear friends, and this says such
a joy to be able to spend.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
This time with you.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
And the people often ask Russ, how did you get
that name? So why don't we start with that?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
And absolutely yeah, I'm sure everyone's listening wants to know
who is the will does crass do me?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
All?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Right? Any? Why are you? Why should we listen to Adubbie?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
The answer is, Richard, I have I've been a businessman
since I was twelve, and I always felt tremendous responsibility
to bring home the bacon and honestly, by the time
I was thirteen, my parents were borrowing money from me
because we didn't have a lot, and I worked real hard,
and as I raised my family, I put a lot

(01:27):
of pressure on myself.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
So I had.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
A lot of pressure in my life, and as a result,
I ended up with a heart attack in my early fifties.
And today, the more I learned about these things, the
more that your internal state can affect tremendously the forrmonal
cascade of events that happens in your body and the

(01:52):
metabolic results of that kind of stress. And so I
ended up with two stamps in my heart and that
wasn't much fun. And I started to look around and
say it's time to take some changes because if I didn't,
life was going to deal with me. And so I

(02:13):
ended up changing my career and went in in about
twenty ten to really the wellness business. And so I've
been involved in wellness for the last but thirteen years
and have learned a lot. My background in college was
I was an exercise physiology and psychology major at UC
Berkeley in California, and I was intrigued with healing and

(02:37):
health and actually was thinking I was going to go
originally into medicine. Then when I found out that medicine
wasn't interested in me, because medicine that stage is like
nineteen seventy two and three. I remember my first aid UCLA.
They brought everybody that was pre med into a meeting

(02:58):
and they said, everyone here that wants to go into
medicine because you want to help your fellow man in
their moment of need. And I was in the second
row having a Sally Field moment, waving my hands. That's
me and that's me. He said, medice is a business.
We don't care what your motivation is, and we're going

(03:18):
to get rid of everyone that doesn't fit our mold.
And I did the instant equation, and I realized that
I shouldn't let the door hit me in the butt.
So I ended up transferring from UCLA to Berkeley, and
in my junior year, I had been a volunteer on
campus trying to learn about physical therapy and the different

(03:39):
departments in the hospital, and met up with a couple
guys who are students, but they lived in wheelchairs because
they were had broken their necks and so they were
trauma wadriplegic. One had broken his neck in a football
game in San Francisco, and the other had broken his neck.
He was a world class high jumper, and he flipped
his van down near San Diego, and Tim and Bill

(04:01):
and Russ moved into a house together four blocks off
Telegraph Avenue. So I played the good wife and did
the cooking and the cleaning and the shopping, and they
paid the rent because they had soid security money coming
as they were severely disabled. And that was right at
the point when America was beginning to mainstream severely disabled.

(04:24):
So I'd had a Forest Gump moment, and I did.
I was at the city in and said, got the first
eighty A laws enacted in the state of California, And yeah,
I don't know if you've ever been around someone with
for ebel palsy, but they have a seizure that results
from that condition, so they have these aspastic movements that

(04:48):
quite honestly make people pretty uncomfortable. So one of the
assemblymen in the state of California was dragging his feet
on this legislation, so we pulled him out of his
chair and left him in front of the door of
that assemblyment. Needless to say that log got an active
faster than any law in the history in the state
of californ And it went on from there to actually

(05:11):
starting a little company to build equipment for me, enabling
a disabled person to do whatever they needed to do.
And I would sit down with them and they tell
me I wanted to be able to take a leak,
or I want to be able to open the door.
They wanted happiness, they wanted to fulfillm it in a career.
They wanted to feel good about getting up every day.

(05:32):
And all of that doesn't change if you have a
traumatic accident. And so as I began to look at that,
I guess spiritual went off on my quest and ended
up living like a monk and ran started a food
bank that I ran for seven years in East Oakland,
and so I was a little white kid running around
the stable Clinton and I would go and arrange for

(05:56):
farmers and wholesalers to give us donations a boot. We
ended up shipping food all over the world and it
was a great experience. So my life, as it took
me a change, I started looking for more and more solutions. Meanwhile,
my own health, I had gained a lot of weight,
I had sleep apne for gosh, thirty years thirty five

(06:18):
years now, which is in itself a very It's a
difficult thing people don't realize so serious for some people. Anyway,
I would sleep atne I would literally get so tired.
If I had lunch, I had to stand up the
rest of the afternoon because I was getting so little
sleep at night, I'd literally fall asleep sitting down.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, and when you're driving a car that's extremely dancy,
absolutely four kids in them. So anyway, I faced all that,
went through that art attack, and then subsequent to that,
had another heart. So I've had juam and I will
tell you neither one. We're fun and I survived, fortunately

(07:01):
thank got both of them. But in the process I
began to learn more and more about what's going on
with my body and how to change my life going forward.
And so that said, I still lived like this kind
of wild young guy as I got older. It didn't change.
People They look at me and they go, you're seventy hour.

(07:25):
It just doesn't wash because my energy never turned down.
I don't know what the problem is. But so as
I began to learn more and more, things began to change.
But also I had to because I had the heart disease.
I had to deal with medications and a diminishing strength
in my heart. So I was fortunate to be able
to connect with a wonderful doctor who used a device

(07:48):
on me called external counterpulsation. And that device you lay
on it and it basically has a routine it runs,
and it was able to strengthen my heart muscle and
opened up much of the vessels in my house. And
so I began to recover and began to look for
more and more ways to do that. Now, in the

(08:08):
process of developing heart disease, they begin to give you
all these medications you don't really know quite all you
need to know. And I was prescribed one medication that
I was supposed to be taking it twice a day,
and I was only taking it once. So in my
late sixties, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. And this

(08:30):
was an interesting moment because I had a PSA that
was elevated. So I went to the doctor and said
what do I do? He said, you're watching you wait
and wait for what you wait for the cancer to
get bad enough, We can do so for you. Wow,
And I thought, there you go. I felt like a

(08:50):
cow at a feed line and waiting, Butcher went through
the whole thing. Things got worse. I tried this tree
bark from New Mexico, different extras armes, I tried everything
to not have a radiation treatment or a surgery. Things
did get worse and ended up doing twenty eight rounds

(09:12):
of radiation. Now, I will tell you that's not something
that you really want to look forward to. And as
a result of that, of course, as you age and
lay that on with some heart disease and high blood
pressure and everything else, you inevitably develop ed. I don't
for a minute understand the complexity of the human body.

(09:36):
And what I've grown to learn is nobody else says
either pieces of it. And that's why doctors specialized, because
it gets so complex and so evolved that they really can't.
And of course that's why we go to medical specialists.
Problem is you don't get to see those guys to
prevent the disease. You get to see those guys when

(09:57):
the intern is general practitioner says yeah you can, this
goes yeah or and that's a little thing. And so
what I decided was, well, then what we need is
a business a wellness model that incentivize physicians to keep
us well. It pays them more to do that. Then

(10:19):
wait until we're sits. Let's move the cheese from her
over to here. And that seems like this most obvious
thing to do, and it is. You know, you look
at the nation of Japan. They see the doctor four
times more often, and they spend one seventh what America does,
and their healthcare one more time. They see the doctor

(10:43):
four times more, but they spend one seventh what America does.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Because they're more focus on the front end.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
They prevent the disease formation and they live five years longer. Now,
you have a genetically selected pool of people and they
live on a nihilands so they're big on fish and
doing a lot of healthy things, and Americans aren't. Our
health is somewhere in the lower middle and not really

(11:12):
in the middle. We're Americans are not healthy people. In fact,
we're dying younger as we go.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah. So this is an interesting dynamic that you brought
up for us, the unfortunate state of affairs as it
pertains to the overall way that we approach wellness in America.
There's that dynamic of the cost factor, which unfortunately we're
at the versity of the insurance companies, and they have

(11:40):
a business that they run where they collect the premials,
and they want to do whatever they can for the
long game to permit you from cashing in and utilize
the benefits. So what is it that we can do
as Americans to turn the boat. What is it that
we can do on a personal basis to improve our

(12:02):
overall wellness?

Speaker 1 (12:03):
With that in mind, let me add something to what
you just said. To start, insurance companies by legislative action,
could only make more money based on the gross not
on a net profit basis. So what do I mean
by that? Means the only way they make more money

(12:23):
is you spend more. They can't increase their margin. That's
fixed supposedly, and I don't believe it. But so they're
incentivized for their costs to go up. Is if they
want to make more money, the costs got to go up, right,
So if you're fixed at three percent, you're out one
hundred million, you're three million dollars profit, right, but fixed.

(12:49):
But if you're a billion then it's all good. So
it's even broken that way, Richard. That was to your point.
The insurance companies, and they're not incentivized because people change
their insurance company every two years two to three years
on average, so they don't even do long term thinking
around you because you're not gonna be around. So everything

(13:11):
is in this financial model that works against the interests
of the individual. In fact, I came up with what
I hope will be adopted, although I'm not a doctor
by healthcare professionals, as a new oath, and it's do
what is optimal. Doctors used to be the highest rated
trusted people in America, and now they're way down there

(13:33):
with car sALS. So everybody goes and asks the nurse
because she has no financial interest in what's going on.
So they used her as the fly in the wall.
Doctor leaders their room, They paid the nurse, they start,
and they're trained not to answer questions.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
And I think that's the fuel behind your vision and
your passion, and that's also the motivating factor. I think
that encourages you to reach out to help others. So
fast forward and you and I meet at the radio
road during the Super Bowl in Los Angeles when the
Rams and the Bengals met. And at this point in
my life, I am well over four hundred and twenty pounds,

(14:14):
like I had a scale that stopped at around four twenty,
and what I stepped on it used to say error,
So I'm not even sure what the actual number was.
I know that I weighed more than I was over
the four twenty because my scale stopped working. So I'm
walking through the damn you know the area all the
radio the green room where all the radio talents go

(14:36):
to take a break and eat snacks, and they serve
lunch and all that stuff. So all them in get
career had like a while bag and we just got
out to air, and I'm starving, and I'm just taking
whatever I can get my hands on. All the chips, cookies, crackers, candy,
you name it I got. I have pargoed. I remember
what I had on. I had cargo pants on, and
I had pockets everywhere, and like each pocket was like

(14:59):
filled with all type of goodies. And if you remember
that cartoon series The Grinch where he stole all the
food from the villagers, that's almost that's how I was
behaving in that green room, like I was just taking
everything for myself, soda cans in my pockets, all kinds
of stuff, and out the corner because this guy he
approaches me and I'm like, he's gonna bust me for

(15:19):
taking all the food and what and so we just
started talking and the entire conversation was just centered around, Hey,
this is what I do. I run a wellness program.
Would you be interested in enjoy it? And for the
back of my head, I was like, hey, this is
something that I really need to do because I tried
and failed so many times, so many different fan diies,

(15:41):
and I tried everything. I knew I needed to lose
the weight, but I just didn't have an actual game plan.
But going through the wellness challenge and going through having
all the different septums, the high blood pressure, I had
recurring out issues. I was actually in the middle of
got attack. When I got back on the air. I

(16:02):
couldn't even walk to the car. It took me like
an hour to make what should have been like a
ten minute walk because I had a gout attack that
happened while I was on the air. After eating all
that junk food, eating the two or three steaks, I
was a soda at it. I was so bad. I
would have three twelve packs of soda and I would

(16:22):
refuel every week. So every Sunday I'd go to the
store and buy three twelve packs, one for the car
and one for the house, one for the office. That's
how bad it was. So through the course of the
wellness program that Russ and I worked on, I was
able to educate myself, motivate myself, keep myself on track,
and lose ninety one pounds in just over six months,

(16:44):
and immediately all of the comorbidity started going away. My
blood pressures drop. I go to my doctor and he's
what the heck are you doing?

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Man?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Whatever, it is great because I'm going to take this
blood pressure medicine away for me. I run a blood panel,
which I had idea I was pre diabetic, and my
A one C dropped below five point seven, which is
back to a noble state. I haven't had a gallon
of tax since then. I say that to say that
the intervention literally changed the course for me because we

(17:18):
tried everything from even from a medical perspective. They changed
my dolstages from my blood pressure. I was sewing and
my wife and I were joking about the other day.
She was like, when I had gaut of tax, they
would just treat me with the steroid packs. So they
were just prescribed in stereoid packs, and I would say
something for later. Okay, I'm feeling a little better now,

(17:39):
let me say these four or five steroid tablets in
case I have a really bad wad of getting down
the road. So the case I'll have time to go
to the doctor. So I would run around town with
steroid tablets in a car in case I need to
pop a couple of them when my knee or my
ankle starts acting up again. Having a change in nutrition,
there's a definitely a correlation between that and your willness.

(18:03):
I was speaking for testimone. Can you can you speak
on that where it's about the correlation between what we
eat and our willness.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, let me address something else, Richard. What really worked
was you had a coach, Yes, and it changed the dynamic.
If you try, and I will tell this everybody that's listening,
if you try to diet on your own, try to
change your behavior around food on your own, your chances
are one in ten of succeed. The skill you should

(18:33):
have been looking at was your present body right. All
of those loss and proverbidities fundamentally is because you would
reduce your body fit. And that's the real gold stand
for understanding how healthy you are. And what I would
will tell you is that, uh, when you look at

(18:55):
a present body fat, but you're really looking at is
how much father is around your organs. And to improve
that lowers all those colverbidities that you develop that result
from the number one thing we can do and that
I focus on the reverse, the financial and really sad

(19:16):
the condition of Americans is to focus on weights. But
from a point of view of coaching, I don't want
to get you know, there are now these amazing medications
that are coming out. They have some issues, but for
the most part, people are having remarkable results. Historically, what
we did through the Welless Challenge was we used a
meal workplace that works, and then people have used just

(19:41):
whole food diets that they reduce their caloric intake and
adjustment things. So all of those can work. But you
need a coach, and you need to be trained, and
need to be held accountable, and you need to learn
and then you can establish behavioral changes that will sustain you.
Is one of the things. Right. You don't want talk
about school here, but when you stop doing certain things,

(20:03):
you found some of that weight again here it did.
So what I've been working on the last two years
is a train to maintain prob because I hit my
you know, I hit one hundred and eighty five pounds
and I've stayed within five pounds of that for two years.
And I eat a lot, but I learned how to
eat in ways. Now people look at me and said, well,

(20:26):
so you could still lose a couple of waters. Both stop.
Now what I am doing now is I'm using some
supplements I've learned about that are actually converting more and
more of my body to muscle. So as you get
more musculature, you're able to actually enjoy food more because

(20:46):
you've burned more. Well, then being active is no big deal.
Is you just naturally want to go and do things
and you don't feel like you're going to slot it
out and push this old donkey up the hill, but
instead you can enjoy getting rounded like and doing it all.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Hey, I agree with you. I used the mindset that
in regards to a welldness mindset, we should reach for
the stars. And you may never touch that star, but
if you reach the top of the mountain in the process,
you're a heck of a lot better off than you
were in the valley.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Much better healthy overweight than being obese. Absolutely, and that's
really when you trip that switch and you head into obesity,
the springs start flying.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Absolutely, that's really true.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Rue, It's really fundamentally true.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
And also you spoke on the fact that I did
deviate from the principles that got me to the ninety
one pound weight loss, but it was very easy to
get back on the wagon once your coach. Players are
gonna make mistakes. We're people. Ever, people are gonna make mistakes,
people are gonna deviate from the script. That's just in life.
Everyone has a discipline threshold, everyone has a compliant streshold.

(22:02):
But when you have that little voice in the back
of your head, or sometimes it's literally the voice in
your ear, in your ear of a coach saying, hey man,
what are you doing? Oh, you know what, You're right,
and you get back on course.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
So that's what let's go back and cover the basics.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
What do you do right? Drink, We're here to support you,
get you to the tough times and the rough times. Russ.
One of the mon occurs that ourself shall say that
you go by as the willness crash dummy, talking that
you've been on the show before, talking about your media
experiences with your own health issues and then all show
your passion for pursuing health and wells for others. This

(22:42):
is a very fyfical subject, especially for men, because we'll
talk about it. There's a group of men who have ED,
and then there's a group of men who lie about
not having D. And it's just it, that's just the
way it is, and there's a core morbidity. There's a correlation,
I should say, your overall willness and rectile nysfunction. You

(23:03):
have taken on the moniker as the con unquote al
we're string of ED, which I think very interesting. So
tell us about ED, tell us about what what are
you aware of it? And what do we need to
know about it?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Thank you Richard, and thank you Howed. Because the thing
about Iritish journey's been fearlessly talking about one subject for
about four and I'll tell you why not. It's seventy
years old. I'm going to put it out there direct oul,
dysfunction ed, whatever you want to call it, Limp Larry,

(23:39):
it's all there is something, interestingly enough that has actually
gotten worse while as America has gotten down the road,
and what used to be something men in their seventies
and eighties would have to address. We have men in
their forties now on thirties, even men in their twenties
who are dealing with direct functioning. I've done a study

(24:01):
of it, and I've identified over twenty things that can
give you a rectilis function. Interestingly enough, and I was
just reading listening to your podcast today, it hormones, which
everybody thinks is the cause of a rectilis function, but
it is responsible for about three percent of a rectilis function. Now,

(24:24):
what would you say to if I told you the
number one thing is diabetes?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Really?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Oh yeah, fifty percent I'm in with diabetes have rectals function.
The other half lie about it. So it's it is
a fair foul impact on your body when you have diabetes.
And what is the number one cause of diabetes in
this country? Oh b saying tea.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
So the golden gift of obesity is elliptic. It really
is a rectilis function. And so what's hopeful is that
by tackling your obesity, you actually liberate your ability in

(25:13):
many cases, to have a joyful life of healthy sex. Now,
a lot of the drugs that are used to treat
the Cold moorbidities of obesity cause ED. Probably the number
two is high blood pressure. Is when a man reports

(25:33):
CD to a doctor, the first thing he wants to
do is check his heart disease. One of the earliest
symptoms of heart disease is a rectile disfunction. So when
you started adding up and then quite honestly, men they
don't want to talk about it, but performance and anxiety
becomes to be its own triggering event to cause a
rectile dysfunction. Interesting, now, so we self sabotage because we

(25:59):
can't achieve proper erection and we can't have full intercourse.
So then guess what You've prophesied your own doom. So
what I've learned about it, what I'm learning about it
is and again my need really didn't start until I
went through my proceseit cancer. Somehow, twenty eight thousand bouts

(26:23):
of radiation. You come out the other end with all
kinds of things not working, one of which is zero direction,
but a lot else didn't work. You have urinary function
issues and obviously being able to hold your whatever, just
can't make it to the bathroom in time, and all
kinds of things, and unfortunately the ninety plus percent of men,

(26:48):
if they live long enough, will develop proceit cancer the
inevitability for men, and seventy percent of men at seventy
have the D to start with, even without the coorbidity,
because the vessels weaken, the herd weakens. What has What's
interesting about the rectile function is it's like you got.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
To a road.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Then there's all these lights in the road. For all
the work, all those lights have to be in the green.
So what we do, of course, as we get older,
is you start hitting those yellows. There's some boy, you
need to hit the red and it ain't gonna work,
And so you begin to and which red light. It

(27:34):
depends on where you're at in your life. But what
you can be certain of is if you're OBEs, you
are fighting sitting all from the goat because you have
a high risk of diabetes heart diabetes three to four
times risk for heart disease. Diabetes an eed, it's the
same word. They call it diabeesity. Type two diabetes is

(27:58):
the result of in the cases will be city. So
part of the best way to treat your ED is
to lose your weight.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Right. I tacked the underlying costs absolutely.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Now, there are other treatments you can do, and I've
gone through some of them. There's a sound wave therapy
that they treat the vessels around the growing area and
on the penis and they open up those vessels to
make sure that the blood is growing properly. The other
thing was use it or lose it if you stop,

(28:32):
and at different times in our life of my case
with protistate cancer, they give you a hormone that drops
your testosterone a single digits to and the goal is
to prevent answer for progressive and it would I'm just.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Thinking out loud as well. When you're obese, you're probably
less likely to engage in a physical activity like sex.
So your amount of shall we say, full contact or
the not only the frequency but also the length of
it is shortened because you just you're obese. You can't

(29:10):
just can't perform like that. So wouldn't that also it's
like an Avalancher effect where you gain the weight, you
start to have the real lighte issue as you mentioned,
then you don't have a lack of frequency, which it
just kind of continues to revolve itself.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
All that and as your bodies slow down, which happens
when you're obese. Flow in your vessels slow also calcify
those vessels, and again all of which creates the inability
of the penis to normally respond to stimulation. Nothing is more.

(29:48):
The brain is your number one sexual and if you
don't feel confident either an initiating sex or completing it,
guess what you are going to sabotage it? Time it again.
And it's just as you mentioned, if you're obese, you
don't feel that confidence. So even if every of a

(30:09):
plumbing is all working, you just give that. The brain
is still going to nail you because you're just you're
not going to get the arousal is. You're gonna be
worried about what is she thinking? Or I can't or
I can't breathe. I can't you know, because or I
can't exert myself as I normally would to create the

(30:29):
friction to make the magic happen. My heart won't hold up.
And what they say, talk to your doctor, make sure
you're healthy about for sexual activity. They're not kidding. That
is one of those barriers is that your actual physical
health can prevent you from being able to achieve erection

(30:49):
and complete the sexual function, so and you're missing a
lot of good stuff. Life is meant to be joyful
throughout and right, honestly, that's part of it.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
So this is a very touchy and uncomfortable subject. So
how do you approach it? We'll start with the phillis,
because of course we're difficult. So how did get to
a point where you except that, all right, well I
have a problem to the guy that's listening that, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I had to reach a point where, first of all,
I was ready to tell myself I got a problem
and I got to deal with this. And given that
I'm involved in the wallless industry and I just run
my mouth non stop. Anyway, it was okay, Allen, you
gotta deal with the fact that things start happening. And
because I was taking this armored suppression for two years, Richard,

(31:41):
two years, I had a hormone testateral level in the
single digits. Normally you want to be in the seven
under eight thousand, but I had seven.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, And remarkably things sometimes even work wow, not always
that to the last and then obviously as you get older.
So what I've learned though, is that you can recover.
This is the most inspiring. Part of the whole thing
is that you can recover sexual function. Not everybody, but

(32:17):
you've got to find out which of those lights has
gone red, and which ones are yellow, and which ones
aren't even on the road, because you're not even looking
that far. Now, I would encourage there are doctors who
are specifically involved in sexual help, and I'm seeing one.
She's a seventy year old lady from a WordNet from Jamaican,

(32:42):
wonderful gal lover and no nonsense, smartest whip and is
really straightforward with me and very helpful. And I'm very
fortunate to have found her. And you've got to find
somebody that is your coach, you know, Richard. When she
saw my survey whenever first went to her and it
was like, you have this scoring thing and it's probably

(33:04):
like one to ten, and if your score like twenty
or something, is we got a shot here. At thirty,
I was a score of about six.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Side was really really. I wasn't gonna lie to her
and I wasn't gonna lie to myself. So that week,
I'm just a quick side note. My wife of forty
one years, right after she quit her law practice, she
found out she had a brainchot, and fortunately he was

(33:38):
not cancerous and they were able to remove it.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
But after they removed it, she looked in the mirror
and she went, I'm obese, and she made up her
mind that she was going to lose that weight, and
she went and lost seventy pounds at seventy years old.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Incredible, But she.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Had to lose her brain toren because that that mental
block that's in our minds is a big part of
what we have to address. So whether it's your obesity
or your ed or whatever else is holding your health back,
you have to be frank with yourself. And again, having
a coach, whether it's just weight loss or in wellness,

(34:20):
is an extremely valuable thing. Now we tell people, take
your body fat, to be your weight, cut it in
half and drink that many ounces of water. Okay, So Richard,
you should have been drinking like two hundred and fifteen
ounces of water.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Right you were.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
It was all terrible soda.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
It's a frock right, Glad It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Water, and it wasn't just nonploric. There wasn't anything it
was remotely healthy. So great part of what helped you
lose all the weight you did. You stopped drinking all that,
So that was like number one, I stopped drinking in
the alcohol. Help me lose weight, help me keep it
all because alcohol is basically sugar. So part of what

(35:05):
we train you to understand is the cycle of sugar
in your body. And that's to evolve for this conversation.
But your body runs on sugar. That's it's natural fuel.
It's called gekos, but it's sugar. And everything in processed
foods is some form of sugar. They got it enriched wheat,

(35:29):
flour and this thing and that, but it's really sugar. Now,
the interesting thing is your body has different energy sources protein, carbohydrates,
and fat, and we teach you about those things, and
we teach you about protein timing, We teach you about hydration,
We teach you about night stress eating, We teach you
all those saints.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
So you've mentioned, you actually did mention the importance of
managing intate to make a pun of it. So you
have to manage your sugar if you want to get
some sugar.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
It's interesting that no one really highlights the correlation between
these three monsters. So to speak. You have the high
blood pressure, I has to say the blood sugar regulation issue,
you have the obesity issue, and then that those two
monsters FEEDD they're very heavily. I would never have thought

(36:23):
that the number one reason for we D would be obesity,
and I think there should be a lot of awareness
around it.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
The reality is obesity causes high blood pressure. What you
get is another major culprit. It creates a higher risk
for our disease, another major culture. There are two hundred
colorbidities of obese. Two hundred. So basically, if you want
your engine to quit working, you can pour some sand
in or just get it pretty much it. So that's

(36:56):
what we have to learn is that and America used
to be a lot trimmer.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
What happened livestock?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
So they must have passed out of fat bill because
since the sixties, remember Jimmy Stewart, it's a beautiful live
waterfly or water as a whip in every hand. What
happened in the sixties we started mass production highly processed food.
That's what happened. So now I'll where there, we're eating

(37:27):
that processed food and it's causing so many of these
problems to emerge. So power train you to do this?
How do how when did when to hydrate, how to
deal with things. Look, if you have some drinks, what
do you do? I just drank a bunch of sugar,
so you hydrate more so yet for drink you drink

(37:48):
two glasses or whatever of water of some kind of
and and people don't they go the other way. We
started drinking the water because they go they want more
of that. And the impact of the alcol a lot
that I ever did that, as the clients do me
no way is another big ed factor, another red light.

(38:09):
And elizard drugs another red light. So supposedly good drugs,
all the bad drugs, it all screws up. So as
you learn where are the red lights? What is causing
my idea? First and foremost it is your mental state,
and it'll be there at the last as well, because

(38:30):
you've got to get past the fact that you're dealing
with it. So that's like the first red light in
your head. And then at the end you've got to
get past the fact that you've struggled with it. And
now you've got to reapply yourself and deal with probably
some moments of failure or less than spectacular performance, and
work with your partner to find ways where now your

(38:52):
body responds this way. Is that. The other thing is
that I was talking to my wife the other about
I said, honey, used to be so red shut the
door and the web. So well, what we learn is

(39:14):
that as we age, everything changes, and you know, we
have to be different for our partner. He didn't be
the same lover you get to be. And it's interesting
because there are so many things that change in her
body and a ring and her willingness and and again
you know all of that. I mean, you know the

(39:37):
happens in this sequence of a green lights. So you
get all the way up to that last light.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Andy, if someone so on the dark sign in front
of you as you're trying to cross the you I
think that analogy is gonna stick with a lot of people.
We like, it's gonna be driving through city traffic thinking
what to real lights when this is there's a reason
why they call you to Alastair Man. That's something very
eloquently put. This whole dynamic between ed and obesity is

(40:07):
just it's just a crazy dark didn't even think about
man te. We are talking today about our future, the youth,
the YouTube a mirror, uh and we know that Reesi's
studies have shown that we have a very significant issue
with childhood obesity. In a mirror, studies show that on

(40:29):
average right now, we're currently training at about a forty
percent obesity rate amongst our youth. So who are brought
Russy used to talk about this topic. So Russ tell
us what are your thoughts on the issue with that's
how LITTLEBC America today?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, about forty percent of our children are either overweight
or obese, twenty percent or in the obese range, and
as they get older, it goes to thirty percent of
adults are overweight, and now forty percent of adults are
in the obese range. So the question that comes to mind,
how is this happening? Why is this happening? Is there

(41:02):
something in the air? Did we drop a bomb somewhere?
We didn't know what happened? The reality is, in about
nineteen sixty we ban to introduced how he process into
the American diet and what we saw as a result
of that is a hockey stick of the average weight
of Americans go up. And when you start thinking about it,

(41:25):
when did McDonald's show, When did Duncan Dulten show r
dithing happen? Now back then you drove through McDonald's, who
was a big thing. I remember as a kid calling
to McDonald's, this big thing and got to get your shake,
and you get then Wendy's opened up. Now a Wendy's
frosty used to be something you just about to have

(41:46):
a cosmic experience eating. The reason is that as seventeen
sugar spoonfuls of sugar in a small one, wow in
a small one, and so you are main sugar. And
so what's happened is are as parents. And I don't
want to guilt trip the parents, because we've all been

(42:08):
led down the road here by what I call the
medical industrial complex. It's give us the food, we get sick,
fix us with the medications, we get sicker, and it
just goes around in a run. And our costs of
healthcare have gone up right along with our weight. So

(42:29):
our children now today are the worst part is they're
not nearly as active. One of the things, Richard, when
you lose weight, people forget I have to become more
active as I lose weight or I won't continue to
lose weight. That has been the reality. Also, what we've

(42:50):
got to learn is that processed foods are the culprit
our children need to learn from their parents' example. How
do healthy otherwise do as I say, not as I do,
will never work, absolutely never work. And so as adults

(43:10):
and as parents. And it's just people in the community.
If they see us chopping down on the bag of
chips after we have our soda, our big cheeseburger, what
are they thinking. The other things is that it becomes normative,
meaning if everybody's obese or overweight, then I'm just fitting in.
And so my family with Daddy and mommy are obese

(43:33):
and overweight, and it's just natural. What I was in
Arizona with the Super Bowl last year, I worked a
little bit with the Indian tribes there and I learned
that some of the Native American communities, they have the
highest rate of diabetes in America and one of the
highest rates in the world. And the children in these

(43:55):
tribes literally talk about when they become diabetic. It's a
discussion one as it's simply inevitable in their life that
they will become diabetic.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
That's so unfortunate. Ye's so unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, Well, and creates a drug dependency, like it or
not that you have to be on a drug to
keep yourself from your limbs, from fear and wealth, from
going blind, from your heart disease. For me, from the
nerves stop working in your feet, all those impacts of diabetes.
And what the most easy disease to cure it in

(44:30):
this country is to type two diabetes, and it is
addressing the underlying cause of obeste. So with our children,
one of the there's really a two proper attack you
got to have. What is they going to learn? How
to eat it too? They got to increase their activity,
and the way to do it is you lead them
by example. And I'm sorry that's a terrible thing to say.

(44:53):
As a parent. I fall short on that. Many times
in my life have bests our disease. You know why
am I the crash on me? I gave you the
list of all the things like true art attacks, but
a stroke, cancer, my bet. All these differentalities during my life,
and many of them were stress related and not eating prively.

(45:16):
So as I've seen the lights, so to speak, that
I'm learning every day. What I'm learning is nothing impacts
people like a.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Good example, absolutely, And I think there are beyond just
a core group of our youth. The future is impacted
by this, the pipelines for so many different caveats of
society or impacted by this. One of course, is the
US military. And I recently saw a TEDx talk that

(45:46):
General Mark Hurtling did where he who literally said that
the obesity issue with our youth is a concern of
national defense. He feels as though it is a national
defense threat to us because the future pipeline soldiers is
very quickly diminishing. And he expressed that parently, the US

(46:09):
Army is seeing about a sixty percent rate of people
who wanted a list of the military who simply can't
because they're obeses. And we're talking young men and women
around the age of eighteen to twenty. They want to
list to the military, but they can't. And it starts
with them being obese's children. They grow through their teen
and puberty years and their there abe says, young adults,

(46:30):
and they're unfit to serve because of.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
That, and they cannot be on any kind of medications
and serve because you've gotta be ready to go into
battle if you're in the military.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
It's just not so.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yes, I think it's a huge problem with and honestly,
the more where OBEs the more are cognitive function diminishes.
It's not good for the brain, and it's obviously not
good for our bodies and are a longevity and our
activity levels.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yeah, that's an interesting point that you bring up, because
I know that they're soone listening their parents out there
that's saying, hey, I get it, I understand. I know
that I work at nine to five. Sometimes, especially given
our the dynamics of this economy that we're in, sometimes
nine to five looks more like nine to nine or
eight to nine or six to nine just to get

(47:23):
the bills paid and you got the kids, so you
have to You don't have time to prepare a nutritious,
healthy meal, so you grab fast food restaurant a I'm
not going to put them out there. When you grab
a fast food restaurant, you feed your family and get
them drifts back to bed, hustle and bustle, do it
again five six, seven days a week. So there's that dynamic.

(47:44):
How do you as that parent that has that incredibly
busy lifestyle. You have all these moving parts, you have
the children dynamic and they have activities and then as
you mentioned the lack of activity with the phones, computers,
the technology these kids are out playing anymore? How impactful
is it?

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Public? Sorry? Physical education out of the school, correct, So
now we got to mainstream eret get you ready for college.
If you don't have a healthy body, what's where you going?
And that's really unfortunate. Man. I can't even think of
not having pe. During high school. It was every day
you went out and you worked out, ran around, screw around,
talked to your friends or whatever. But you got some movement.

(48:28):
Now doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
But the most vivid example of this that I recall,
I recall visiting my son's school one day and what
they call quote unquote physical education. It's not like, well,
we used to light up and do squad thrusts and
the sprints, and we run track and play basketball, football
and tag and flag football and soccer and very active sports.

(48:55):
It's almost like it's just outdoor classroom environment. And what
I'm with it was a group of young kids sitting
in a circle on their phones texting each other. Oh,
like that's absolutely counterproductive, Like the whole talking to each other.
They're not even talking to each other, they're they're in
a circle and they're giggling and laughing and they're sharing

(49:17):
whatever it was, they're sharing in a circle on their phones.
They had their phones and they were out texting each other.
And we're talking about high school kids in they're in
like ninth to tenth grade. So that's just a it's
an unfortunate dynamic. How do we break out so that
parents just listen this wondering how do we break out
of this? What's the game play? How do we get

(49:38):
out of it?

Speaker 1 (49:38):
One of the things that that we discussed Richards is
the possibility of doing kids and activities like flag football,
which is it's a great team sport people get to
and we're going to be involved in that and we'll
do a future episode about that. But and a lot
of parents are incredibly conscientious and getting their kids out
and getting them as involved as they can and after

(49:59):
school programs and it's not all bleak and whatever. The
reality is though, there is those that can and those
that can't. And so what we want to look at
is ways of which it is a longer discussion because
it's really a societal change. It's going to happen. It's
it's not that simple. But as individuals, we can set

(50:20):
a good example that on its own we can do now, Richard,
you at one point told me you were drinking thirty
six scans of soda a week per week. So you
make your decision that you aren't going to do that anymore.
Nobody made that for you. Nobody told you're a bad guy,
and nobody. You just said, this doesn't make sense anymore?

(50:41):
Am I going to do it? So as individuals, we
can look at our lives and say, what am I
doing that I shouldn't be and what is a decision
I need to make to then do something different? And
I do that different. So that's pebbles in the pod,
that ripple effect. You can't necessarily know how that's all

(51:02):
going to wash out. What you can do is make
a difference. And so part of coaching people for me
is to encourage them to do what they know in
the first place, and then from there, from there then
we can really do something.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Absolutely it is so critical, folks to get coaching. We're
speaking from testimony, not for theory here. I when in
Russ and I hit at the super Bowl in Los Angeles.
I was well over for in twenty pounds. I don't
know what the actual number was because my still stopped
at four in the twenty. It can't. When I step

(51:38):
on the steel, it would just say to be continued.
I will probably have to go to another skill to
get the number show since that bad. But getting coaching
is what really changes the dynamic, where not only do
you have the accountability, you also have the information. There's
so much that you can learn about proper nutrition, about

(51:58):
protein timing, about proper hydration, and also about dealing with
the other variables in your life, about dealing with the stress,
about getting proper sleep. Those are two things that I
never thought about. How chaotic my average day was and
how to control that. We know, we spoke about the
fact that you know our military, for example, you know

(52:20):
they're struggling to find recruiting. We know that there is
a heavy correlation between obesity and productivity in the workforce.
Having a healthier workforce at a younger age is gonna
We're gonna see a healthier, stronger workforce in the future.
And these are our future leaders. So we need to
invest in them. We need to pour into them, we

(52:42):
need to support them, we need to love on them,
and we need to take care of them. And it
starts with things such as helping them to manage their
wellness at a young age, and when they learn those
core principles, even if they veer off the path, which
we sometimes do. We're human. We're not expecting a little
job or JD to have a six pack there from

(53:03):
sixth grade into the grave. But we know that at
a minimum, they will at least understand what's going in them,
and they will understand how to control and maintain their willness,
and they will have a long, healthy lives and they
will be great contributors to society. So think of that
as your legacy point. I'm going to pour this into

(53:24):
my child, I'm going to afford this into my family,
and these are the type of this is my brick
on the road to society. It's my contribution. Through wellness,
we're able to do some great things in society. I
just think this is a very dynamic opportunity for all
of us.

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Wonderful grade Richard, fantastic set.

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