May 15, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hey, welcome to another episode of Wellness Uncensored. My name
is Patty G and I'm your host here for today.
In case I sound like a froggy five year Oh
my gosh, what happened to my length? Can y'all see me?
Oh no, what is going on with a computer today?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
There we go. It looked like my screen went dead.
All right, I think we're back, or maybe I'm back.
This is the kind of thing that happens. I don't
know if things have ever gone haywire in your world,
but you just kind of have to learn to fly
and roll with the punches. We've had some interesting technology
issues today. So anyway, without further ado, as long as
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I'm good, I don't know, rebel am I good?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Wanted to welcome everybody back. I am so not techy
and that's just how things go. But you know, we're
here to welcome you guys. It is May May fifteenth
and May is National Mental Health Month, and so we
brought to a few interesting guests the first first show,
and today we've got a wonderful guest too. I'm hoping
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is able to join us once we work through some
of our own home computer technical issues that those of
us who are not in that computer world share. But
you know, with Mental Health Month, I want to bring
back a story of why and how Wellness Uncensored got started,
and it'll kind of lead into my guests, and so
hopefully we'll be able to get her up shortly. But
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you know, there's a whole reason where mental health really
triggered a lot of people. People that generally lived everyday lives,
have wonderful families, have wonderful jobs and careers, and the
world was turned upside down during the pandemic, during a
pandemic that many of us have come to learn today
didn't have to be. Now, whether you're on that side
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of the fence or not, I can tell you from
personal experience, there's a lot of things that a lot
of people didn't know probably until the last six months
to a year. And there's a whole lot more it's
going to be forthcoming and if you stay tuned and
get your popcorn, you're going to see a whole lot
more in the next probably six months to a year.
So wellness and censors started because I worked in hospital
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executive leadership way back a number of years, and at
the beginning of the pandemic in twenty twenty, I had
just launched into a new hospital and we were in
the middle of just this unknown entity of closing our doors.
And while we were closing our doors, I was looking
around me and no one seemed to think that this
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was really odd, that the world as we know it
just wasn't making sense. And so many of many of
us in healthcare actually thought, we're doing something, but are
we doing the right thing? And any of us who
questioned were shunned, shut down, relegated out to other responsibilities,
or let go from our jobs, which many folks experienced
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when they didn't get the vaccine so early in twenty twenty,
as I tried to be a voice of someone who
had well over thirty five years of experience back then then,
I was not met with support and I was pushed
out to the periphery. And during the first few months
of COVID, I tried to gather as much information as
I could, kind of downstream, behind the scenes, and I
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did connect with a few really you know, rebel in
stellar individuals, and with some of that information I had,
I thought that people would certainly start to listen, but
clearly they didn't. And back when I first heard of ivermactin,
I was astounded that if there is actually somebody out
there who recommends we try it and was pooh pooed
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off of the mainstream media, if I wasn't the only
one thinking there was something up. Surely there were menu
that were a few months in and as I was
working through the pandemic and all the things we did
was shut down and locking out loved ones into hospital
rooms and quarantining everybody, putting tape on the floor, putting
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plexiglass up, having families wave to their loved ones from
the windows outside. I just knew in my heart that
this was just something not right, something sinister, and in
the end, as it always is, the truth always prevails
and the truth comes out. So I thought I was
going to just ride the wave and do my best
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to help people as I could, both on the inside
and on the outside. And I found myself in a predicament.
When my husband came down with COVID. As he got sick,
I worried about his health because he had other comorbidities,
and after it took five days back then to get
the test results back, I started having symptoms. When I
had the symptoms, they became so severe that I went
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to the hospital twice. The first time turned away, and
after being turned away the first time, reached out to
my primary care who said, well, if your lips start
turning blue, you better go back in. No other advice
was offered each time I went in the second time,
I had asked for ivermectin and was told what is that,
We don't use that here. I asked for hydroxychloroquin and
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I was told no, that is off formulary. But yet
just two months prior, June thirtieth was the last day
of our hospital in Idaho. Allowed Oh my gosh, it's terrible.
It upsets me so and then I draw a blank
hydroxychloroquin into the hospital and I was sick, couldn't breathe.
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I was admitted to ICU. First time in my life
and probably the first time since being a nurse and
a nurse leader did I have to become succumbed to
being bathed in hippocleans to clean my body to go
into an ICU. Never before did patients when they were
deathly ill prior to hospital admission get stripped down, naked
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and washed with hippocletes. So when I tell you things
didn't make sense. Now, I got to have a first hand,
behind the scenes, actual view of what happened. And during
that time I laid in the hospital bed as people
tried to make decisions over me, and I was assured
that my husband would be notified. My husband worked at
the facility. The CEO banned him from the ICU doors,
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regardless that he was in facilities and had to take
care of the entire building. She wouldn't let him in
and threaten him with his job. Me being so sick,
I didn't really know what was going on, and I
was too sick to speak. So in that time I
made wishes of what I needed to have happened for
my family, and I basically told my husband that you
can't tell the kids that I'm sick because they all
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lived out of state. But I said, I need you
to take our dogs and make sure that they have
a good home because sadly, I knew that my husband
would be so devastated he'd rather be alone than have
their remembrance of me with our dogs there. And very
quickly he was able to find a farm that wanted
two German shepherds, and so I felt a peace that
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the dogs had a good home, and if I wasn't
going to make it out, at least everything I needed
to be in order. Plans were made, emails were sent,
and I was just going to do my best to
tough it out and fight well. I ended up getting
roomed severe and even though I'd asked for ivermactin and
explained it, my chief medical officer came to see me
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at the doorway of my hospital room and said, you know,
we're really not even sure if we should give you this.
It could do more harm than good. And I said,
I don't know, but I don't want to die, so
y'all better do something. And I said, you won't give
me ibermactin, you won't give me hydroxychloroquine, you won't calm
down the inflammation, but give me what you can give
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me because I want to live. And at that point
in time, we didn't have the statistics or the data
to show how deadly remdesevere was. And in my nursing career,
I hadn't quite remembered back the name of rem de
severe because well back when the AIDS pandemic was paramount
and we had several other severe epidemics breakout. There were
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two oh Ebola, we had two failed attempts of rom
de severe, the Anthony Fauci Remdesevere, the project, the High
School Project Gone Mad. Fifty percent death rate of anyone
who ingested remdesevere. Well, I happened to be on the
good side of the statistics because I managed to survive
the ivy. And I'm not so sure if it was
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because I was tough or I had, you know, a
good immune system even though it was under attack. But
I was also given convalescent plasma, and so with the
convalescent plasma, I think that really helped me to pull through.
And then I didn't progress. And the long and the
short of what happened with me not progressing. See, there's
one thing that I do know. Because I worked in
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the inside, nurses were allowed to not hourly round anymore,
so no one could check my status, my hydration, my ambulation,
and when you're in the ICU especially and then moved
out to a mind surge floor, it's called early ambulation
did not take place, meaning they didn't get me up
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out of bed to try to help move my lungs
and expand my chest and keep my muscles moving. And
so through all of that I wasn't able to really
stay strong, and so in that time I said, I'm
not getting any better. I really just want to go home.
I ended up in the hospital for almost fourteen days,
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and in that time I had to crawl to my commode,
and what they now provideed was cluster care. Cluster care means, oh,
we'll come see you when we can all get ourselves
together and get things done, and then we'll scurry out
of your room so we can protect ourselves so we
can help you. There was not much of a cluster.
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There was more like a flinging of somebody, a change
or shift, And when I hit my call light one day,
I needed to use the commode because any of us
who have had this type of virus, you're really not
able to hold things in too long when you feel
that problem coming, and so it was all I could
do to reach over to grab and stretch to get
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the commode and almost fell over, but no one would
have found me. Probably would have been at least another hour.
I got the commode over, I was able to take
care of things, and I was exhausted. And so after
a few more days and again not progressing, I had
talked to my husband briefly, but because I couldn't really speak,
I wasn't able to stay on the phone very long
other than to listen, and that was upsetting to me.
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So pt came in and they looked at me and said, oh,
you're too sick to really get out of bed. And see.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
These fools knew that I was an.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Experienced nurse, but they still treated me like everybody else.
I felt like I was in a hospital of zombies.
And this was in twenty twenty. So it continued, and
what my story is about to share, many others have
a story to share much like mine, except sadly, many
others were the families of the victims who didn't make
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it out of the hospitals, the families who couldn't share
the stories of what it was like to try to
help give life and support emotional support if nothing else,
or to be there to hold the hand or give
a kiss on the forehead of a loved one who
was just going to succumb to the Anthony Fauci CDC
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protocol that denied denied emergency use access of things that
could help decrease inflammation. Hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin B one, vitamin C,
several several medications, methyl steroids, several different types of steroids
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all could have had a powerful and potentiating effect. When
they did get me up and they saw I couldn't
tolerate moving, I think I got a bath seven days
after admission and they left me. I had to sit.
They brought in a commode so I could sit. I
couldn't stand. I talked to the physician and they were
very standoffish because I think they knew and understood how
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much I detested the care that I was receiving. And
I said, if this is how I'm going to be,
I said, I really need to go home. I can't
stay another minute longer. It was just upon labor day
and I said I need to go home. And I
knew because I was going to go home, I could
sit sadly my dogs were gone, but I would be
at peace, and I would figure out what I was
going to do and hopefully I would come up with something.
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I just it was like liquid cement in my chest.
The whole idea behind this was nothing was done that
was normally done for thirty five years in me give
or care, and it was all stopped and all changed
through the CDC and the protocols, and so through all
of this I was able to get them to give
me a PT test. The PT test, I have to
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tell you, is fascinating because it's the first condolized type
of protocol and it made absolutely no sense. So I
think we may have our cast. Well, they get her on,
They got me, you know, they got me up. And
my PT test to get a discharge from the hospital
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was let me just see what we can do here.
I feel terrible because Ellie has an amazing story to
share from Kentucky and it's almost you know, do all
of you believe in coincidence? I have to tell you
my computer turned off and rebooted twice before and during
the show, and then my screen popped up. Was that
when I was talking to all of you, I'm just saying, okay,
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So for any of you out there who may have
twisted the airwaves and are blocking to try to not
let this podcast through. I just want to let you know,
while it sounds a little sinister, game on, because we're
coming for you. The American people were coming for you, okay,
And that's not all I have for you. Before I
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run the risk of getting disconnected. Don't forget to take
a look at my book. It's out there on Amazon.
It's called I Am Sorry, Just got over a cold too.
One thing I will tell you, for those of you
that are tuned in pretty regularly, this woman will not
be stopped. Make no mistake. Everyone across America is going
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to hear the stories of those who have been compromised,
of those who have lost loved ones, of anyone who
had to suffer a hospital homicide, or had to suffer
from COVID as did I. And now every time I
get a common cold or a virus, this is what happens.
I'm so sorry. So everything worked out so good until
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just about twenty minutes ago. But while I was in there,
they give me this PT test. The PT test consisted
of a four minute out of bed experience with a
physical therapist. That means as long as I moved around
the room. I was good to get a discharge order.
Now I could tell you stories, and I will and
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I shall probably in several more podcasts because we've had
several of these amazing guests on over the last two
years that we've been blessed to be able to run
Wellness Uncensored. We've brought you riveting explanations of prior guest
who have shared stories of their own COVID experience or
of the high the side of their loved ones. What
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I will tell you, Oh hang on one second, okay,
so halfway through the test. Oh yeah, I've got lots
of questions. So it's so hard when you're trying to
talk and help people. Oh can you call?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So, and this is why we do this, because we
want to bring lay people to the world. You know,
how else would I have gotten connected to share my
story if I didn't learn how to connect and get
on and try to launch a podcast. It's taken two
years to reach as many people as we've been reaching,
and there's many of us. I want to encourage all
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of you to look up to fantastic websites or podcast
groups while you're out there. We've got the former FEDS group.
It's a former fedsgroup dot org. And then we've also
got the Betrayal Project, and I just want to make
sure I get the right call letters up for each
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one because these are national and I think now have
even gone international groups. Yeah, it's the Betrayal Project, and
I'll be talking about this was more later after we
get Ellie up on the show. But you know, we
started as one and we will just a moment to
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get to get started. But we were one small group
that started with about seven people and now we've grown
probably over three thousand plus in county. Ellie, do you
want to jump on me real quick while you guys
get set up and then we'll have you jump in.
I'm so glad she made it because she's got a
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powerful story and there's probably well over three thousand people
who do not have the ability to get out here
and share their story with the American public. So I'll
wrap mine up pretty quickly. I basically got through my
PT test, stood for two minutes, took a pause, and
I asked the physical therapist do I fail this test
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if I don't stay standing? And she goes, oh, no,
you can sit down. It's four minutes total. Well, I
sat my fanny down, I took a couple of breaths,
and I stood back up, and I stayed standing and
walked around the room for two more minutes. It took
another day to get myself discharged because it took another
day for them to be able to at the order
oxygen for me because I couldn't leave, I couldn't get
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out of bed. I needed oxygen de breathe. I was
on six years of oxygen and during that time I
was able to get home and I got a nice
little discharge card. Hey, wish you the best again. So
many things gone wrong, and Ellie's going to share a
little bit about hers. What ended up happening was I
got home and there was no plan of care. I
had to fight to get my way in to get
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an X ray. I had to fight to get any
other type of care that I needed. The rest of
my story is on my book they called me, Harriet.
I want you to look it up on Amazon dot com.
What you read in here is going to turn your stomach,
but it's going to hopefully open your eyes. There are
so many things that went on in the hospitals during
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the pandemic, not just with myself included, but with what
I had to go and work and walk around to
help and take care of patients. And because of that,
it was why I said before I got out of
that hospital, God, if you let me live, I will
make it my last everyday, you know, avocation to try
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to help one more person every day, And so that's
how we ended up being here. I also want to
share another book that is actually listed in the back
of my book, and it's a phenomenal read and I
don't think many people knew about it. It was written
by the illustrious Wang Zhao MD he is or was
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he may be, with doctor Fauci, now the chief physician
of the Wuhan Center for Disease Control. This book was read, published,
and endorsed by none greater than the Johns Hopkins University,
again tied with our friend doctor Fuci, and in here
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is a step by step guide. It was published You'll
never guess this March twenty twenty. It was the playbook
for all of us to know that the truth existed
right under our nose.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I pulled this.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
It was the only copy in Barnes and Noble in
obscure Meridian, Idaho. Okay, this wasn't out for people to see.
Good luck getting a copy now. If you can get
your hands on this and you read it, you scan
through and scroll and read about what it tells you
to do to fight COVID. Basically, to avoid it, elevate
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your body temperature, get fresh air, stay outdoors. Only anti
virals will work, masks won't work. And if you raise
or cause a distraction or make a scene and appear
like you're upset unwilling to follow the resistance, you will
be brought into the hospital and basically what we call
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here in Florida Baker Acted Hospital hospitalized for mental illness.
It's didn't here. Folks didn't make this up. So I
am super excited. We've got a couple questions, but what
I will tell you is, oh, I think they're gone. Oh.
I had two questions. One was about convalescent plasma. That
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is basically when someone donates plasma and they're in a chair,
they're healthy. It's a giant needle that they used to
get it out, and you can have your blood bloods
buck spun down and donate it. I used to donate
mine before I ended up in the hospital. So people
do this all the time and it's a wonderful gift
of life to help people who need plasma. That's what
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I got, and I got healthy plasma because not that
many people had COVID at the time. And then yeah,
the fascinating question here, and then we're going to imp
over to Ali just we'll be ready for you to
just kind of start to share. Why can't you leave
the hospital at your own will? Well, see, that's the
funny thing. You can, but they make it really difficult,
and when you're so sick. I was so debilitated. It
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took me two weeks to get recovered enough to say
I've had enough, I'm not getting better. I'm not going
to deteriorate and get on the vent. But then the
second thing is if you choose to leave and they
want to tell you what you're leaving against medical advice.
As long as they stamp that sticker on there and
tell you it's against their advice, your insurance will not
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pay for your entire hospital stay. So you're kind of
put in a catch twenty two. But ultimately, if you're
strong enough and able, you can get yourself out. But
we have other people that have tried to get their
loved ones out. And I think you guys know Gail Sailor,
she actually had her husband come breaker out of the
hospital and was nearly arrested by the police and find
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you know, they've they've moved on. They're sharing their story
and they're telling the world about it. So we'll get
Gail on probably in the coming weeks. But listen, Ellie,
I'm so excited. So we got started, but I want
you to have time to share. Your brother was a
victim in the hospital. Can you give us sort of
a little summary of how we went in and what
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you found, what happened. Thanks so much for being.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Here, Thanks for having me here. Is so nice to
meet you. And I've tried to get on Amazon and
order your book.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
By the way, they call me.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Harriet, it was sold out, so I'm gonna trag in today.
If not, I'm just gonna go ahead and get the
one for my phone. I'm super excited about it. But
any story is a bit different than the normal that
you get, even though he shares the commonalities of all
the others.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yea, and.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
This was in twenty twenty one that he went into
the hospital, but he work injury. In August of twenty twenty,
right around the time that we were hearing.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
About COVID, he had a very bad break on his leg.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Like the doctor's a world renowned doctor, and he stated
in the records that Andy's leg was the worst that
he'd ever had to manage. And were this doctor's you know,
he teaches classes and he writes books, and so in
October they noticed that the screws were backing out of
Andy's ankle where he had to have the ORIF, and
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that he would need surgery.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
And now in Hunts, I see, this is kind of.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
When COVID protocols and things started kind of creeping up
on us because they had then stopped the elective surgeries.
Only his surgery wasn't an elective surgery. He had screws
backing out. That would mean bone could be breaking off.
But that was in October, like I said, of twenty
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twenty December, the eighth of twenty twenty, he had an
a their surgery, which meant they needed to go in
extend the rod. They needed to change the screws because
those screws have been backing out of a lot of patients.
The doctor told us, you know, I've told the hospital
that they need to look into the different screws. But
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he came home and he was not ever the same
like so he has had all negative COVID tests.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
From we're talking about October on. But he came home.
He didn't want to wake up, really a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
He was really tired. He had a lot of pain
in his foot. He was complaining of pain. He had
went to the er in January of twenty twenty one.
Actually he had went to two ears in January and
then in February. He went to another the same year again,
which was Twin Lakes Owen's World Twin Lakes Regional Medical
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Center in Kentucky, and they he comes in.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
We were told that we couldn't be there.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
You know, they would call us and let us know that,
you know, we couldn't do anything for him. But I
do know that Andy's lifeline is his phone. I got
pictures of everything, especially, I mean our whole life. That phone,
since they came out, is his lifeline. He got there.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
The text says, I told them my leg hurts really bad.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
They told me they're not worried about my leg right now,
they're worried about saving my life, and then his leg
was never even noted in the records. That was his
prime he'd complaint. They actually though that hospital. As we're
beginning that hospital, they noted that he had just had
a severe surgery. They didn't want to over volumeize him,
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but they did need further testing that they didn't do.
So he required a higher level of care upon anologist.
He needed a Bronchi scope. We knew one in Louisville.
We got Andy arranged to be transferred. Considering he was
non COVID, he was going to be to be transferred,
but we were getting ready to get a bad ice storm.
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And that's what I say. It was just like the
perfect storm, if you will, of this whole what I'm
getting ready to tell you. So on the sixteenth, we
had scheduled for that Norton's transfer to Louisville.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
The next morning.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
And I know this because I spoke with the MS
director after Andy passed.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
But the next morning, before.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I know, it's tough, you're doing great.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
They called MS this schedule that transfer to Norton's and
the MS person, I don't want to say his name,
he told him the let me do a road check.
So he called and specifically checked on a room and
it was there and ready to Norton's, but the roads
were too bad. And at that point he was told
it was an emergency transfer. But if you schedule a
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transfer due to a test two days prior, it is
I want an emergency transfer, it is not.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So he told them to call Metavac to take Andy on.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
So they did, and the next thing I know, and
he's calling me video call on his phone and he
tells me he's got to go to Owensboro. And we're like, no, no,
you don't. And he's packing his own bags, a little
bit out of breath, his leg's still hurting, and he says,
they told me I'm going to die if I.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Don't go there, and I don't want to die. I
have to go. And I said, no, you don't. You
don't have to go.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Just tell them no, we'll figure it out. And he said, Elie,
I don't. I don't want to die. He said, I
have to go.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Ihe you or.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I'll call you or when I get there. So he
got there, there was no room. He waited until like
eight o'clock that night before he even got in a room.
And so I know that his records weren't sent with him,
so when he got to them, it was as if
he had just came into the hospital for the very
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first time. It's like the first days, the first week,
that two weeks that he had been in the hospital.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
It didn't exist.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
There was nothing, no all the way up to the
twenty third of February and he was transferred on the seventeenth.
There was no background in the medical records, none indicated
at all, so they brought him in as COVID. The
doctor de escalates his antibiotics, makes it out in his
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chart that he doesn't see any superinfection or evidence of
He wouldn't He wouldn't care to do like a bacterial panel,
he said, which I found out later on that they
were remembered like they got money for. And then he
said he also didn't see that a broncus club would
be needed. So had we knew they weren't going to
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do that test. Had Andy knew that they weren't going
to do that test, he would have never went because
he didn't want to go anyways.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But anyways, the doctor.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
They start, Andy calls us the very next stay on
the eighteenth and tells us, well, they said, I have COVID.
I tested positive for that, And I said, but you've
just tested negative, and he goes, I don't know. The
medical records show that he did test negative for it.
He was also given the convalescent plasma, but the doctor
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noted at his convalescent plasma that they were antibodies present.
It said COVID antibody negative convalescent plasma needed is what
it said. So they gave him the convalescent plasma. But
that was the days I started questioning. While I want
to see a test, I want to see a positive test.
But now I'm learning that they actually run their own
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test that does the PCR testing. So I also know
from talking to the deputy corner down there that at
that point in time, they weren't having to submit their
tests into the CDC because there was so many people
that had been tested. So right there, perfect storm, perfect murder,
perfect whatever. And I like to call it premeditated murder
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by the government.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I mean, they go on MH so.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
On the It was really weird because Andy was not
the type to take a value. Now, I'm not going
to tell you that he would never take appeal because
that not he had had some issues years and years
ago that a valium just would never be any I mean,
he would never he never did take those they actually.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Write, but this hospent on what would he want? Never?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
And the Casper report and a drug screen from the
prior hospital shows that this hospital that he's at now
their sister facility, Owensborough Health, they put that he was
a Benzo dependent and they continued to give him Lariza Pam, Lariza, Pam,
Lariza Pam, Lariza pam. And then after well, hold on,
(31:52):
I'm getting ahead. Let me get to the part where
we do need to me to be talking about the
medicine on it would be the nineteenth. He didn't have
a good day at all. He didn't look good. I
know now why, but he didn't lookod at all.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
And you got to see him through the phone, no.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
No, no video at his sickest. He had that phone
right there on a video with us. That is why
I know he.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Suspected something or another.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
But see, when I jump ahead, I get there's so
much that I can't.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
People knew when you saw him. This wasn't like you
got to.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Know, Oh no, no no, because we were told from
the very beginning, no news is good news. We will
call you. You don't have to call us, which we didn't.
We Andy was calling us through the video. That's how
we were his safe place there.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
So on. After being really sick.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
On the nineteenth and actually half the day on the twentieth,
they decide that he's better and they're gonna move him
to the COVID Medical FO which is where I'm assuming
you go when you're getting better. You still can't have visitors,
you still can't do nothing, but you're just out of
this DCU.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
So he goes out.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
We have a visitation location station set up on Facebook
where a majority of our friends and family were there
to have a video conference with him.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
It was all of us together. We did that for
about an hour.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
He got in his room at six, so seven to
eight we did a video call. I stayed with him
on a video call till ten gonted to put his
phone away, that we needed to sleep. He was getting better.
Put his phone away. I was putting my way and
I did. I put my phone away. The next morning,
I wake up to Andy tells me on a video
and he answers it.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
He says to me, laying down, still lifeless.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Once again, they they say I had a stroke, but
they don't think I've had a stroke.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
And I said what what?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh my god, so that reason or what did he say?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
What did I said, I'm I didn't give him the
chance at that point, I thought, I'm getting in there.
Just at that point, I didn't give him the chance
to say anything. I said, I'm going to call the doctor.
I'm going to call because they had told me no
news is good news. They never called us and told
us anything. So as I got ready to call, I
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wanted to get my phone out to see what time
I had talked to him last, just so I kind
of could have something to go by with them. I
had had no issues at this point really up until now.
So I got my phone and I put my phone
up at ten at ten thirty seven pm, and he
had sent me a screenshot of his face and I
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had a filter on it, and he never used filters,
and he definitely wouldn't have used the one that he used.
But in that picture his lip was his right lip
was saggy.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
So I know for a.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Fact that stroke started at ten thirty seven pm on
the twentieth, but it wasn't diagnosed until the twenty first
at one twenty a m. And no medication was given
until around almost five. Medical records jump around, they don't no,
nobody tells the same story. You kind of just got
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to read it and go with what you know and
then plug in the pieces that you know go where
they go. So I know what time his stroke that
his stroke started. I know that for a TPA, you
have like three and a half to four hours that
you can give that after a stroke for it.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
To do any good.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
And I also don't think that he should have had
a TPA, given the fact that, for one, his blood
didn't clot usually on its own. He had a leg infection,
which was a blood infection, and they waited too long.
So anyways, I call them and they tell me, you know,
at one twenty we went in there, which that's not
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what their records say. The records say when they went
in there after two, that he was trying to get
their attention. But remember this, he called us and talked
to us on a video the whole next day of
that stroke. It was not a catastrophic stroke, was not,
but we wake up, well, I stay wake up. We
take our map through the night. And I had talked
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to the nurse again, and he says, you know, his
oxygen's low. We've been working with them all day on it.
If he has, don't be surprised if in the next
twenty four to forty eight hours he's gonna need a ventilator.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
And I so, I just kind of crose. You hear
a ventilator.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
It is scary. So I said, well, what does that mean?
And you know you got to have certain rules for that.
He can't tell hisself wake me up, He can't tell
them wake me up. So Evan goes into the room
with Andy on the phone, the cordless phone, and he
has to tell Andy that.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
This could happen. And Andy says to him, who tells
them when I wake up? Who you know?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Who gets to say that? And he said, well, you're
in your right mind, you do you get to say that?
He said, that's part of it, you know, it's that's
one of the plus things. And and he said, well
it will be my sister, my sister Ellie. And Evan said,
well I figured that, but I just you know, we
just wanted to make sure just in case, he said,
and I'm going to keep working with you to make
sure you know that you don't. And I said, Andie,
(37:18):
listen to me. You have beat a lot of things
in your life, buddy. This ventilator is just a sleep.
You're just gonna let your your legs are your your legs,
your lungs rest. You're gonna let them have a minute.
You're gonna go to sleep. It's gonna be like you're
taking a nap and it's going to be time to
wake up for you. As long as you will tell
(37:39):
me you're there, I want to plug across.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
And why did they say he needed a ventilator to
help his stroke.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I don't know. We didn't.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
So what I learned was they keep you in a
shell shocked state. They let you come up for a
breath of water from being under the water. You take
a breath, and then they stalk you back down and
they hold you under till you're about ready to pass out,
and they lift you back up again to tell you
something else bad.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
And then what would they tell you?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
It was quite a wave. And one of our folks
had asked about what's TPA. That's the plotting declotting agent
that they need to try to prevent the stroke from progressing,
And it has to be given within a really short
period of time. It's a tissue plasmaage and activator. Right,
it's not given right away, then you can't give it.
(38:30):
And the fact that you said he got it, yeah,
he got it. You know again, I've never heard of
lungs having to take a rest for a stroke. The strokes.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
The doctor also told me, and I know that they
didn't give him the TPA immediately after they find after
the NRT was called, because the doctor I spoke with
had said to me, at first it was a little
little stroke.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I didn't see nothing big.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
So I said, hey off, hang off, he's young, he's healthy, young, healthy,
remember those words, And he said, but then I he
started having I guess Andy started having some speech impediments,
or he couldn't swallow, or I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
They didn't give a reason. And when they gave a reason,
they gave like fifty reasons. And so we then go
from they.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Evan had told us if he had to be ventilated,
he had done chosen me that they would call.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
They didn't call. We get up that next.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Morning from our maybe thirty minutes of sleep, and he
was on a ventilator and it was on the that's
what that was the day of the twenty third. It
would have been the fifth day, the final day of
his room. Desphere pro to call medication that they got
a grant money for if they completed the whole five days,
and once that was done, immediately after they started telling
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me he was branded.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
But I didn't believe that.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
I knew better because anytime I would ask for something
to prove it, they didn't have it. Like I said, Okay,
I want an EEG, and they said, we don't do those.
And I thought that was very weird because they're a hospital.
And not only that, a few days after Andy did
their EEG operator got in trouble for fondling a patient
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while she was on having a stroke.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
We can't declare brain death unless we do any EG.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
So on the twenty sixth, here I am. I'm fighting
every day. Every Oh that's nothing. I'm fighting every day
to think of any test I can until I can
figure out how to get to him.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
They wouldn't do a doppler at all. I'm telling him
his leg, his leg.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
The notes in the medical record say that I'm fixated
on his leg. They never would do it. But come
the twenty sixth, the doctor called and said he did
a bedside test and they declared Andy branded And I said, well,
you better under clear him because he isn't. And what
I said, did you do an EG And he said,
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we don't do those. And I said, what about a
NAPMEA test? He doesn't qualify for that. I said, what
do you mean he doesn't qualify for that. He's dead,
isn't he. If he's dead, then why is it going
to matter if you do one or if you don't
do one. So when I got their records back, the
bedside test, and it's actually the bedside test that they
ultimately end up using. The doctor even notes in that
(41:27):
bedside test that this bedside test cannot be used to
DM brain death due to patient is on a paralytic
and so that's the test they use. Ultimately, they didn't
ever do it again. He died on this on the
second of March. But this whole time, his leg's been injured,
and we've not heard about the leg doctor.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
That's because they wouldn't reach out.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
So also in the background of trying to fight for him,
I'm trying to find out how to get a hold
of this leg doctor in the midst of COVID and
when I do get his office out, they're not just
going to let some crazy sister.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Talk to him.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
But I actually did get a hold of them, and
I told to him and then he called me back
and he told me this. The doctor called me back
and he says, I'm going to Andy. I've got rights there.
I'm going pull and tell him keep him on the
vent I called. I told him keep him on the ventilator.
Doctor Seligson's coming there. And of course, right after I
get off the phone, they schedule an ethics committee meeting
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and that day, about six hours later, at five thirty
four pm, Andy was deemed his code status was changed
from one hundred percent full code to a dn R,
and he was from his ventilator and fourteen and a
half hours later he passed.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
They say, now let me tell you and folks, I'm
so sorry, because you know, Ellie's got so much more
to share, and I think what we'll do is we'll
have you back for another episode. So many things gone wrong.
You know, you put somebody who's had a stroke on
a ventilator. He bring somebody in to the hospital, deem
them with COVID and they didn't come in with COVID.
You start giving people the Razi pam for no reason,
(42:56):
no medical history in Sanity's ben Zoe dependent uh uh.
We refuse to do a test for brain death before
you start making plans to take off the event. And
then you change somebody's code status without next of ken
prior approval since he wasn't able to speak for himself.
So many things wrong with this, And Ellie, my heart
(43:16):
goes out to you, is there any last couple of
things you want to share? And then let's figure out
we could get you back next week would be phenomenal,
perfect seconds.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I just I can. I would love to come back.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I want yes, thank you, and an if you tell
the world like look out Kentucky, here she comes.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Hey, I say, I'm a plot twist. I'm a plot twist.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
They thought that they got somebody whose family was just
in a shell shock, stated I was, yeah, but I
remember every single second for him. I remember every single second.
I started recording phone calls, I started asking questions. Use
your voice, people, use your voice and go to the
Betrayal Project. Find them. They found me. And it has
(43:59):
been so at your release, I've been able to speak
his story. I've been able to find people that.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Say need it. She's not crazy. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
You know you don't chilt your head and say, oh,
I'm so sorry and say then in your head that
poor girl, well, she's got to find somebody to blame
for grief.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
So listen, Ellie, that's why you're here. You're going to
be a bright light. He will not die in Bean.
You're going to continue his legacy, and you're going to
tell a story. We'll get you back next week. I
want to thank everybody. Hopefully you got some really good
stuff this week. Tune in again next week to hear more.
Ellie's going to tell you some of the stuff she's
been doing since We'll connect you don't forget to look for.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Us on X.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
We're out there. There's two great groups Former Feds dot
org Humanity Betrayal Project dot org. You guys next week,
love y'all. Talk to you soon. Ellie, stay tuned. Don't
go anywhere, Okay. The Stan
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Hey, welcome to another episode of Wellness Uncensored. My name
is Patty G and I'm your host here for today.
In case I sound like a froggy five year Oh
my gosh, what happened to my length? Can y'all see me?
Oh no, what is going on with a computer today?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
There we go. It looked like my screen went dead.
All right, I think we're back, or maybe I'm back.
This is the kind of thing that happens. I don't
know if things have ever gone haywire in your world,
but you just kind of have to learn to fly
and roll with the punches. We've had some interesting technology
issues today. So anyway, without further ado, as long as
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I'm good, I don't know, rebel am I good?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Wanted to welcome everybody back. I am so not techy
and that's just how things go. But you know, we're
here to welcome you guys. It is May May fifteenth
and May is National Mental Health Month, and so we
brought to a few interesting guests the first first show,
and today we've got a wonderful guest too. I'm hoping
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is able to join us once we work through some
of our own home computer technical issues that those of
us who are not in that computer world share. But
you know, with Mental Health Month, I want to bring
back a story of why and how Wellness Uncensored got started,
and it'll kind of lead into my guests, and so
hopefully we'll be able to get her up shortly. But
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you know, there's a whole reason where mental health really
triggered a lot of people. People that generally lived everyday lives,
have wonderful families, have wonderful jobs and careers, and the
world was turned upside down during the pandemic, during a
pandemic that many of us have come to learn today
didn't have to be. Now, whether you're on that side
(02:22):
of the fence or not, I can tell you from
personal experience, there's a lot of things that a lot
of people didn't know probably until the last six months
to a year. And there's a whole lot more it's
going to be forthcoming and if you stay tuned and
get your popcorn, you're going to see a whole lot
more in the next probably six months to a year.
So wellness and censors started because I worked in hospital
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executive leadership way back a number of years, and at
the beginning of the pandemic in twenty twenty, I had
just launched into a new hospital and we were in
the middle of just this unknown entity of closing our doors.
And while we were closing our doors, I was looking
around me and no one seemed to think that this
(03:07):
was really odd, that the world as we know it
just wasn't making sense. And so many of many of
us in healthcare actually thought, we're doing something, but are
we doing the right thing? And any of us who
questioned were shunned, shut down, relegated out to other responsibilities,
or let go from our jobs, which many folks experienced
(03:29):
when they didn't get the vaccine so early in twenty twenty,
as I tried to be a voice of someone who
had well over thirty five years of experience back then then,
I was not met with support and I was pushed
out to the periphery. And during the first few months
of COVID, I tried to gather as much information as
I could, kind of downstream, behind the scenes, and I
(03:51):
did connect with a few really you know, rebel in
stellar individuals, and with some of that information I had,
I thought that people would certainly start to listen, but
clearly they didn't. And back when I first heard of ivermactin,
I was astounded that if there is actually somebody out
there who recommends we try it and was pooh pooed
(04:11):
off of the mainstream media, if I wasn't the only
one thinking there was something up. Surely there were menu
that were a few months in and as I was
working through the pandemic and all the things we did
was shut down and locking out loved ones into hospital
rooms and quarantining everybody, putting tape on the floor, putting
(04:34):
plexiglass up, having families wave to their loved ones from
the windows outside. I just knew in my heart that
this was just something not right, something sinister, and in
the end, as it always is, the truth always prevails
and the truth comes out. So I thought I was
going to just ride the wave and do my best
(04:54):
to help people as I could, both on the inside
and on the outside. And I found myself in a predicament.
When my husband came down with COVID. As he got sick,
I worried about his health because he had other comorbidities,
and after it took five days back then to get
the test results back, I started having symptoms. When I
had the symptoms, they became so severe that I went
(05:16):
to the hospital twice. The first time turned away, and
after being turned away the first time, reached out to
my primary care who said, well, if your lips start
turning blue, you better go back in. No other advice
was offered each time I went in the second time,
I had asked for ivermectin and was told what is that,
We don't use that here. I asked for hydroxychloroquin and
(05:40):
I was told no, that is off formulary. But yet
just two months prior, June thirtieth was the last day
of our hospital in Idaho. Allowed Oh my gosh, it's terrible.
It upsets me so and then I draw a blank
hydroxychloroquin into the hospital and I was sick, couldn't breathe.
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I was admitted to ICU. First time in my life
and probably the first time since being a nurse and
a nurse leader did I have to become succumbed to
being bathed in hippocleans to clean my body to go
into an ICU. Never before did patients when they were
deathly ill prior to hospital admission get stripped down, naked
(06:25):
and washed with hippocletes. So when I tell you things
didn't make sense. Now, I got to have a first hand,
behind the scenes, actual view of what happened. And during
that time I laid in the hospital bed as people
tried to make decisions over me, and I was assured
that my husband would be notified. My husband worked at
the facility. The CEO banned him from the ICU doors,
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regardless that he was in facilities and had to take
care of the entire building. She wouldn't let him in
and threaten him with his job. Me being so sick,
I didn't really know what was going on, and I
was too sick to speak. So in that time I
made wishes of what I needed to have happened for
my family, and I basically told my husband that you
can't tell the kids that I'm sick because they all
(07:10):
lived out of state. But I said, I need you
to take our dogs and make sure that they have
a good home because sadly, I knew that my husband
would be so devastated he'd rather be alone than have
their remembrance of me with our dogs there. And very
quickly he was able to find a farm that wanted
two German shepherds, and so I felt a peace that
(07:30):
the dogs had a good home, and if I wasn't
going to make it out, at least everything I needed
to be in order. Plans were made, emails were sent,
and I was just going to do my best to
tough it out and fight well. I ended up getting
roomed severe and even though I'd asked for ivermactin and
explained it, my chief medical officer came to see me
(07:50):
at the doorway of my hospital room and said, you know,
we're really not even sure if we should give you this.
It could do more harm than good. And I said,
I don't know, but I don't want to die, so
y'all better do something. And I said, you won't give
me ibermactin, you won't give me hydroxychloroquine, you won't calm
down the inflammation, but give me what you can give
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me because I want to live. And at that point
in time, we didn't have the statistics or the data
to show how deadly remdesevere was. And in my nursing career,
I hadn't quite remembered back the name of rem de
severe because well back when the AIDS pandemic was paramount
and we had several other severe epidemics breakout. There were
(08:37):
two oh Ebola, we had two failed attempts of rom
de severe, the Anthony Fauci Remdesevere, the project, the High
School Project Gone Mad. Fifty percent death rate of anyone
who ingested remdesevere. Well, I happened to be on the
good side of the statistics because I managed to survive
the ivy. And I'm not so sure if it was
(09:00):
because I was tough or I had, you know, a
good immune system even though it was under attack. But
I was also given convalescent plasma, and so with the
convalescent plasma, I think that really helped me to pull through.
And then I didn't progress. And the long and the
short of what happened with me not progressing. See, there's
one thing that I do know. Because I worked in
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the inside, nurses were allowed to not hourly round anymore,
so no one could check my status, my hydration, my ambulation,
and when you're in the ICU especially and then moved
out to a mind surge floor, it's called early ambulation
did not take place, meaning they didn't get me up
(09:42):
out of bed to try to help move my lungs
and expand my chest and keep my muscles moving. And
so through all of that I wasn't able to really
stay strong, and so in that time I said, I'm
not getting any better. I really just want to go home.
I ended up in the hospital for almost fourteen days,
(10:05):
and in that time I had to crawl to my commode,
and what they now provideed was cluster care. Cluster care means, oh,
we'll come see you when we can all get ourselves
together and get things done, and then we'll scurry out
of your room so we can protect ourselves so we
can help you. There was not much of a cluster.
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There was more like a flinging of somebody, a change
or shift, And when I hit my call light one day,
I needed to use the commode because any of us
who have had this type of virus, you're really not
able to hold things in too long when you feel
that problem coming, and so it was all I could
do to reach over to grab and stretch to get
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the commode and almost fell over, but no one would
have found me. Probably would have been at least another hour.
I got the commode over, I was able to take
care of things, and I was exhausted. And so after
a few more days and again not progressing, I had
talked to my husband briefly, but because I couldn't really speak,
I wasn't able to stay on the phone very long
other than to listen, and that was upsetting to me.
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So pt came in and they looked at me and said, oh,
you're too sick to really get out of bed. And see.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
These fools knew that I was an.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Experienced nurse, but they still treated me like everybody else.
I felt like I was in a hospital of zombies.
And this was in twenty twenty. So it continued, and
what my story is about to share, many others have
a story to share much like mine, except sadly, many
others were the families of the victims who didn't make
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it out of the hospitals, the families who couldn't share
the stories of what it was like to try to
help give life and support emotional support if nothing else,
or to be there to hold the hand or give
a kiss on the forehead of a loved one who
was just going to succumb to the Anthony Fauci CDC
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protocol that denied denied emergency use access of things that
could help decrease inflammation. Hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin B one, vitamin C,
several several medications, methyl steroids, several different types of steroids
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all could have had a powerful and potentiating effect. When
they did get me up and they saw I couldn't
tolerate moving, I think I got a bath seven days
after admission and they left me. I had to sit.
They brought in a commode so I could sit. I
couldn't stand. I talked to the physician and they were
very standoffish because I think they knew and understood how
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much I detested the care that I was receiving. And
I said, if this is how I'm going to be,
I said, I really need to go home. I can't
stay another minute longer. It was just upon labor day
and I said I need to go home. And I
knew because I was going to go home, I could
sit sadly my dogs were gone, but I would be
at peace, and I would figure out what I was
going to do and hopefully I would come up with something.
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I just it was like liquid cement in my chest.
The whole idea behind this was nothing was done that
was normally done for thirty five years in me give
or care, and it was all stopped and all changed
through the CDC and the protocols, and so through all
of this I was able to get them to give
me a PT test. The PT test, I have to
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tell you, is fascinating because it's the first condolized type
of protocol and it made absolutely no sense. So I
think we may have our cast. Well, they get her on,
They got me, you know, they got me up. And
my PT test to get a discharge from the hospital
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was let me just see what we can do here.
I feel terrible because Ellie has an amazing story to
share from Kentucky and it's almost you know, do all
of you believe in coincidence? I have to tell you
my computer turned off and rebooted twice before and during
the show, and then my screen popped up. Was that
when I was talking to all of you, I'm just saying, okay,
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So for any of you out there who may have
twisted the airwaves and are blocking to try to not
let this podcast through. I just want to let you know,
while it sounds a little sinister, game on, because we're
coming for you. The American people were coming for you, okay,
And that's not all I have for you. Before I
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run the risk of getting disconnected. Don't forget to take
a look at my book. It's out there on Amazon.
It's called I Am Sorry, Just got over a cold too.
One thing I will tell you, for those of you
that are tuned in pretty regularly, this woman will not
be stopped. Make no mistake. Everyone across America is going
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to hear the stories of those who have been compromised,
of those who have lost loved ones, of anyone who
had to suffer a hospital homicide, or had to suffer
from COVID as did I. And now every time I
get a common cold or a virus, this is what happens.
I'm so sorry. So everything worked out so good until
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just about twenty minutes ago. But while I was in there,
they give me this PT test. The PT test consisted
of a four minute out of bed experience with a
physical therapist. That means as long as I moved around
the room. I was good to get a discharge order.
Now I could tell you stories, and I will and
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I shall probably in several more podcasts because we've had
several of these amazing guests on over the last two
years that we've been blessed to be able to run
Wellness Uncensored. We've brought you riveting explanations of prior guest
who have shared stories of their own COVID experience or
of the high the side of their loved ones. What
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I will tell you, Oh hang on one second, okay,
so halfway through the test. Oh yeah, I've got lots
of questions. So it's so hard when you're trying to
talk and help people. Oh can you call?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So, and this is why we do this, because we
want to bring lay people to the world. You know,
how else would I have gotten connected to share my
story if I didn't learn how to connect and get
on and try to launch a podcast. It's taken two
years to reach as many people as we've been reaching,
and there's many of us. I want to encourage all
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of you to look up to fantastic websites or podcast
groups while you're out there. We've got the former FEDS group.
It's a former fedsgroup dot org. And then we've also
got the Betrayal Project, and I just want to make
sure I get the right call letters up for each
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one because these are national and I think now have
even gone international groups. Yeah, it's the Betrayal Project, and
I'll be talking about this was more later after we
get Ellie up on the show. But you know, we
started as one and we will just a moment to
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get to get started. But we were one small group
that started with about seven people and now we've grown
probably over three thousand plus in county. Ellie, do you
want to jump on me real quick while you guys
get set up and then we'll have you jump in.
I'm so glad she made it because she's got a
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powerful story and there's probably well over three thousand people
who do not have the ability to get out here
and share their story with the American public. So I'll
wrap mine up pretty quickly. I basically got through my
PT test, stood for two minutes, took a pause, and
I asked the physical therapist do I fail this test
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if I don't stay standing? And she goes, oh, no,
you can sit down. It's four minutes total. Well, I
sat my fanny down, I took a couple of breaths,
and I stood back up, and I stayed standing and
walked around the room for two more minutes. It took
another day to get myself discharged because it took another
day for them to be able to at the order
oxygen for me because I couldn't leave, I couldn't get
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out of bed. I needed oxygen de breathe. I was
on six years of oxygen and during that time I
was able to get home and I got a nice
little discharge card. Hey, wish you the best again. So
many things gone wrong, and Ellie's going to share a
little bit about hers. What ended up happening was I
got home and there was no plan of care. I
had to fight to get my way in to get
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an X ray. I had to fight to get any
other type of care that I needed. The rest of
my story is on my book they called me, Harriet.
I want you to look it up on Amazon dot com.
What you read in here is going to turn your stomach,
but it's going to hopefully open your eyes. There are
so many things that went on in the hospitals during
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the pandemic, not just with myself included, but with what
I had to go and work and walk around to
help and take care of patients. And because of that,
it was why I said before I got out of
that hospital, God, if you let me live, I will
make it my last everyday, you know, avocation to try
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to help one more person every day, And so that's
how we ended up being here. I also want to
share another book that is actually listed in the back
of my book, and it's a phenomenal read and I
don't think many people knew about it. It was written
by the illustrious Wang Zhao MD he is or was
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he may be, with doctor Fauci, now the chief physician
of the Wuhan Center for Disease Control. This book was read, published,
and endorsed by none greater than the Johns Hopkins University,
again tied with our friend doctor Fuci, and in here
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is a step by step guide. It was published You'll
never guess this March twenty twenty. It was the playbook
for all of us to know that the truth existed
right under our nose.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I pulled this.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
It was the only copy in Barnes and Noble in
obscure Meridian, Idaho. Okay, this wasn't out for people to see.
Good luck getting a copy now. If you can get
your hands on this and you read it, you scan
through and scroll and read about what it tells you
to do to fight COVID. Basically, to avoid it, elevate
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your body temperature, get fresh air, stay outdoors. Only anti
virals will work, masks won't work. And if you raise
or cause a distraction or make a scene and appear
like you're upset unwilling to follow the resistance, you will
be brought into the hospital and basically what we call
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here in Florida Baker Acted Hospital hospitalized for mental illness.
It's didn't here. Folks didn't make this up. So I
am super excited. We've got a couple questions, but what
I will tell you is, oh, I think they're gone. Oh.
I had two questions. One was about convalescent plasma. That
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is basically when someone donates plasma and they're in a chair,
they're healthy. It's a giant needle that they used to
get it out, and you can have your blood bloods
buck spun down and donate it. I used to donate
mine before I ended up in the hospital. So people
do this all the time and it's a wonderful gift
of life to help people who need plasma. That's what
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I got, and I got healthy plasma because not that
many people had COVID at the time. And then yeah,
the fascinating question here, and then we're going to imp
over to Ali just we'll be ready for you to
just kind of start to share. Why can't you leave
the hospital at your own will? Well, see, that's the
funny thing. You can, but they make it really difficult,
and when you're so sick. I was so debilitated. It
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took me two weeks to get recovered enough to say
I've had enough, I'm not getting better. I'm not going
to deteriorate and get on the vent. But then the
second thing is if you choose to leave and they
want to tell you what you're leaving against medical advice.
As long as they stamp that sticker on there and
tell you it's against their advice, your insurance will not
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pay for your entire hospital stay. So you're kind of
put in a catch twenty two. But ultimately, if you're
strong enough and able, you can get yourself out. But
we have other people that have tried to get their
loved ones out. And I think you guys know Gail Sailor,
she actually had her husband come breaker out of the
hospital and was nearly arrested by the police and find
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you know, they've they've moved on. They're sharing their story
and they're telling the world about it. So we'll get
Gail on probably in the coming weeks. But listen, Ellie,
I'm so excited. So we got started, but I want
you to have time to share. Your brother was a
victim in the hospital. Can you give us sort of
a little summary of how we went in and what
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you found, what happened. Thanks so much for being.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Here, Thanks for having me here. Is so nice to
meet you. And I've tried to get on Amazon and
order your book.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
By the way, they call me.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Harriet, it was sold out, so I'm gonna trag in today.
If not, I'm just gonna go ahead and get the
one for my phone. I'm super excited about it. But
any story is a bit different than the normal that
you get, even though he shares the commonalities of all
the others.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yea, and.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
This was in twenty twenty one that he went into
the hospital, but he work injury. In August of twenty twenty,
right around the time that we were hearing.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
About COVID, he had a very bad break on his leg.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Like the doctor's a world renowned doctor, and he stated
in the records that Andy's leg was the worst that
he'd ever had to manage. And were this doctor's you know,
he teaches classes and he writes books, and so in
October they noticed that the screws were backing out of
Andy's ankle where he had to have the ORIF, and
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that he would need surgery.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
And now in Hunts, I see, this is kind of.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
When COVID protocols and things started kind of creeping up
on us because they had then stopped the elective surgeries.
Only his surgery wasn't an elective surgery. He had screws
backing out. That would mean bone could be breaking off.
But that was in October, like I said, of twenty
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twenty December, the eighth of twenty twenty, he had an
a their surgery, which meant they needed to go in
extend the rod. They needed to change the screws because
those screws have been backing out of a lot of patients.
The doctor told us, you know, I've told the hospital
that they need to look into the different screws. But
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he came home and he was not ever the same
like so he has had all negative COVID tests.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
From we're talking about October on. But he came home.
He didn't want to wake up, really a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
He was really tired. He had a lot of pain
in his foot. He was complaining of pain. He had
went to the er in January of twenty twenty one.
Actually he had went to two ears in January and
then in February. He went to another the same year again,
which was Twin Lakes Owen's World Twin Lakes Regional Medical
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Center in Kentucky, and they he comes in.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
We were told that we couldn't be there.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
You know, they would call us and let us know that,
you know, we couldn't do anything for him. But I
do know that Andy's lifeline is his phone. I got
pictures of everything, especially, I mean our whole life. That phone,
since they came out, is his lifeline. He got there.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
The text says, I told them my leg hurts really bad.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
They told me they're not worried about my leg right now,
they're worried about saving my life, and then his leg
was never even noted in the records. That was his
prime he'd complaint. They actually though that hospital. As we're
beginning that hospital, they noted that he had just had
a severe surgery. They didn't want to over volumeize him,
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but they did need further testing that they didn't do.
So he required a higher level of care upon anologist.
He needed a Bronchi scope. We knew one in Louisville.
We got Andy arranged to be transferred. Considering he was
non COVID, he was going to be to be transferred,
but we were getting ready to get a bad ice storm.
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And that's what I say. It was just like the
perfect storm, if you will, of this whole what I'm
getting ready to tell you. So on the sixteenth, we
had scheduled for that Norton's transfer to Louisville.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
The next morning.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
And I know this because I spoke with the MS
director after Andy passed.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
But the next morning, before.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I know, it's tough, you're doing great.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
They called MS this schedule that transfer to Norton's and
the MS person, I don't want to say his name,
he told him the let me do a road check.
So he called and specifically checked on a room and
it was there and ready to Norton's, but the roads
were too bad. And at that point he was told
it was an emergency transfer. But if you schedule a
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transfer due to a test two days prior, it is
I want an emergency transfer, it is not.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So he told them to call Metavac to take Andy on.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
So they did, and the next thing I know, and
he's calling me video call on his phone and he
tells me he's got to go to Owensboro. And we're like, no, no,
you don't. And he's packing his own bags, a little
bit out of breath, his leg's still hurting, and he says,
they told me I'm going to die if I.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Don't go there, and I don't want to die. I
have to go. And I said, no, you don't. You
don't have to go.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Just tell them no, we'll figure it out. And he said, Elie,
I don't. I don't want to die. He said, I
have to go.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Ihe you or.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I'll call you or when I get there. So he
got there, there was no room. He waited until like
eight o'clock that night before he even got in a room.
And so I know that his records weren't sent with him,
so when he got to them, it was as if
he had just came into the hospital for the very
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first time. It's like the first days, the first week,
that two weeks that he had been in the hospital.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
It didn't exist.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
There was nothing, no all the way up to the
twenty third of February and he was transferred on the seventeenth.
There was no background in the medical records, none indicated
at all, so they brought him in as COVID. The
doctor de escalates his antibiotics, makes it out in his
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chart that he doesn't see any superinfection or evidence of
He wouldn't He wouldn't care to do like a bacterial panel,
he said, which I found out later on that they
were remembered like they got money for. And then he
said he also didn't see that a broncus club would
be needed. So had we knew they weren't going to
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do that test. Had Andy knew that they weren't going
to do that test, he would have never went because
he didn't want to go anyways.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But anyways, the doctor.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
They start, Andy calls us the very next stay on
the eighteenth and tells us, well, they said, I have COVID.
I tested positive for that, And I said, but you've
just tested negative, and he goes, I don't know. The
medical records show that he did test negative for it.
He was also given the convalescent plasma, but the doctor
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noted at his convalescent plasma that they were antibodies present.
It said COVID antibody negative convalescent plasma needed is what
it said. So they gave him the convalescent plasma. But
that was the days I started questioning. While I want
to see a test, I want to see a positive test.
But now I'm learning that they actually run their own
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test that does the PCR testing. So I also know
from talking to the deputy corner down there that at
that point in time, they weren't having to submit their
tests into the CDC because there was so many people
that had been tested. So right there, perfect storm, perfect murder,
perfect whatever. And I like to call it premeditated murder
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by the government.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I mean, they go on MH so.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
On the It was really weird because Andy was not
the type to take a value. Now, I'm not going
to tell you that he would never take appeal because
that not he had had some issues years and years
ago that a valium just would never be any I mean,
he would never he never did take those they actually.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Write, but this hospent on what would he want? Never?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
And the Casper report and a drug screen from the
prior hospital shows that this hospital that he's at now
their sister facility, Owensborough Health, they put that he was
a Benzo dependent and they continued to give him Lariza Pam, Lariza, Pam,
Lariza Pam, Lariza pam. And then after well, hold on,
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I'm getting ahead. Let me get to the part where
we do need to me to be talking about the
medicine on it would be the nineteenth. He didn't have
a good day at all. He didn't look good. I
know now why, but he didn't lookod at all.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
And you got to see him through the phone, no.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
No, no video at his sickest. He had that phone
right there on a video with us. That is why
I know he.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Suspected something or another.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
But see, when I jump ahead, I get there's so
much that I can't.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
People knew when you saw him. This wasn't like you
got to.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Know, Oh no, no no, because we were told from
the very beginning, no news is good news. We will
call you. You don't have to call us, which we didn't.
We Andy was calling us through the video. That's how
we were his safe place there.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
So on. After being really sick.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
On the nineteenth and actually half the day on the twentieth,
they decide that he's better and they're gonna move him
to the COVID Medical FO which is where I'm assuming
you go when you're getting better. You still can't have visitors,
you still can't do nothing, but you're just out of
this DCU.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
So he goes out.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
We have a visitation location station set up on Facebook
where a majority of our friends and family were there
to have a video conference with him.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
It was all of us together. We did that for
about an hour.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
He got in his room at six, so seven to
eight we did a video call. I stayed with him
on a video call till ten gonted to put his
phone away, that we needed to sleep. He was getting better.
Put his phone away. I was putting my way and
I did. I put my phone away. The next morning,
I wake up to Andy tells me on a video
and he answers it.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
He says to me, laying down, still lifeless.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Once again, they they say I had a stroke, but
they don't think I've had a stroke.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
And I said what what?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh my god, so that reason or what did he say?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
What did I said, I'm I didn't give him the
chance at that point, I thought, I'm getting in there.
Just at that point, I didn't give him the chance
to say anything. I said, I'm going to call the doctor.
I'm going to call because they had told me no
news is good news. They never called us and told
us anything. So as I got ready to call, I
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wanted to get my phone out to see what time
I had talked to him last, just so I kind
of could have something to go by with them. I
had had no issues at this point really up until now.
So I got my phone and I put my phone
up at ten at ten thirty seven pm, and he
had sent me a screenshot of his face and I
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had a filter on it, and he never used filters,
and he definitely wouldn't have used the one that he used.
But in that picture his lip was his right lip
was saggy.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
So I know for a.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Fact that stroke started at ten thirty seven pm on
the twentieth, but it wasn't diagnosed until the twenty first
at one twenty a m. And no medication was given
until around almost five. Medical records jump around, they don't no,
nobody tells the same story. You kind of just got
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to read it and go with what you know and
then plug in the pieces that you know go where
they go. So I know what time his stroke that
his stroke started. I know that for a TPA, you
have like three and a half to four hours that
you can give that after a stroke for it.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
To do any good.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
And I also don't think that he should have had
a TPA, given the fact that, for one, his blood
didn't clot usually on its own. He had a leg infection,
which was a blood infection, and they waited too long.
So anyways, I call them and they tell me, you know,
at one twenty we went in there, which that's not
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what their records say. The records say when they went
in there after two, that he was trying to get
their attention. But remember this, he called us and talked
to us on a video the whole next day of
that stroke. It was not a catastrophic stroke, was not,
but we wake up, well, I stay wake up. We
take our map through the night. And I had talked
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to the nurse again, and he says, you know, his
oxygen's low. We've been working with them all day on it.
If he has, don't be surprised if in the next
twenty four to forty eight hours he's gonna need a ventilator.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
And I so, I just kind of crose. You hear
a ventilator.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
It is scary. So I said, well, what does that mean?
And you know you got to have certain rules for that.
He can't tell hisself wake me up, He can't tell
them wake me up. So Evan goes into the room
with Andy on the phone, the cordless phone, and he
has to tell Andy that.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
This could happen. And Andy says to him, who tells
them when I wake up? Who you know?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Who gets to say that? And he said, well, you're
in your right mind, you do you get to say that?
He said, that's part of it, you know, it's that's
one of the plus things. And and he said, well
it will be my sister, my sister Ellie. And Evan said,
well I figured that, but I just you know, we
just wanted to make sure just in case, he said,
and I'm going to keep working with you to make
sure you know that you don't. And I said, Andie,
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listen to me. You have beat a lot of things
in your life, buddy. This ventilator is just a sleep.
You're just gonna let your your legs are your your legs,
your lungs rest. You're gonna let them have a minute.
You're gonna go to sleep. It's gonna be like you're
taking a nap and it's going to be time to
wake up for you. As long as you will tell
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me you're there, I want to plug across.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
And why did they say he needed a ventilator to
help his stroke.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I don't know. We didn't.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
So what I learned was they keep you in a
shell shocked state. They let you come up for a
breath of water from being under the water. You take
a breath, and then they stalk you back down and
they hold you under till you're about ready to pass out,
and they lift you back up again to tell you
something else bad.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
And then what would they tell you?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
It was quite a wave. And one of our folks
had asked about what's TPA. That's the plotting declotting agent
that they need to try to prevent the stroke from progressing,
And it has to be given within a really short
period of time. It's a tissue plasmaage and activator. Right,
it's not given right away, then you can't give it.
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And the fact that you said he got it, yeah,
he got it. You know again, I've never heard of
lungs having to take a rest for a stroke. The strokes.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
The doctor also told me, and I know that they
didn't give him the TPA immediately after they find after
the NRT was called, because the doctor I spoke with
had said to me, at first it was a little
little stroke.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I didn't see nothing big.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
So I said, hey off, hang off, he's young, he's healthy, young, healthy,
remember those words, And he said, but then I he
started having I guess Andy started having some speech impediments,
or he couldn't swallow, or I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
They didn't give a reason. And when they gave a reason,
they gave like fifty reasons. And so we then go
from they.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Evan had told us if he had to be ventilated,
he had done chosen me that they would call.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
They didn't call. We get up that next.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Morning from our maybe thirty minutes of sleep, and he
was on a ventilator and it was on the that's
what that was the day of the twenty third. It
would have been the fifth day, the final day of
his room. Desphere pro to call medication that they got
a grant money for if they completed the whole five days,
and once that was done, immediately after they started telling
(39:55):
me he was branded.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
But I didn't believe that.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
I knew better because anytime I would ask for something
to prove it, they didn't have it. Like I said, Okay,
I want an EEG, and they said, we don't do those.
And I thought that was very weird because they're a hospital.
And not only that, a few days after Andy did
their EEG operator got in trouble for fondling a patient
(40:21):
while she was on having a stroke.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
We can't declare brain death unless we do any EG.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
So on the twenty sixth, here I am. I'm fighting
every day. Every Oh that's nothing. I'm fighting every day
to think of any test I can until I can
figure out how to get to him.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
They wouldn't do a doppler at all. I'm telling him
his leg, his leg.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
The notes in the medical record say that I'm fixated
on his leg. They never would do it. But come
the twenty sixth, the doctor called and said he did
a bedside test and they declared Andy branded And I said, well,
you better under clear him because he isn't. And what
I said, did you do an EG And he said,
(41:06):
we don't do those. And I said, what about a
NAPMEA test? He doesn't qualify for that. I said, what
do you mean he doesn't qualify for that. He's dead,
isn't he. If he's dead, then why is it going
to matter if you do one or if you don't
do one. So when I got their records back, the
bedside test, and it's actually the bedside test that they
ultimately end up using. The doctor even notes in that
(41:27):
bedside test that this bedside test cannot be used to
DM brain death due to patient is on a paralytic
and so that's the test they use. Ultimately, they didn't
ever do it again. He died on this on the
second of March. But this whole time, his leg's been injured,
and we've not heard about the leg doctor.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
That's because they wouldn't reach out.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
So also in the background of trying to fight for him,
I'm trying to find out how to get a hold
of this leg doctor in the midst of COVID and
when I do get his office out, they're not just
going to let some crazy sister.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Talk to him.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
But I actually did get a hold of them, and
I told to him and then he called me back
and he told me this. The doctor called me back
and he says, I'm going to Andy. I've got rights there.
I'm going pull and tell him keep him on the
vent I called. I told him keep him on the ventilator.
Doctor Seligson's coming there. And of course, right after I
get off the phone, they schedule an ethics committee meeting
(42:18):
and that day, about six hours later, at five thirty
four pm, Andy was deemed his code status was changed
from one hundred percent full code to a dn R,
and he was from his ventilator and fourteen and a
half hours later he passed.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
They say, now let me tell you and folks, I'm
so sorry, because you know, Ellie's got so much more
to share, and I think what we'll do is we'll
have you back for another episode. So many things gone wrong.
You know, you put somebody who's had a stroke on
a ventilator. He bring somebody in to the hospital, deem
them with COVID and they didn't come in with COVID.
You start giving people the Razi pam for no reason,
(42:56):
no medical history in Sanity's ben Zoe dependent uh uh.
We refuse to do a test for brain death before
you start making plans to take off the event. And
then you change somebody's code status without next of ken
prior approval since he wasn't able to speak for himself.
So many things wrong with this, And Ellie, my heart
(43:16):
goes out to you, is there any last couple of
things you want to share? And then let's figure out
we could get you back next week would be phenomenal,
perfect seconds.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I just I can. I would love to come back.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I want yes, thank you, and an if you tell
the world like look out Kentucky, here she comes.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Hey, I say, I'm a plot twist. I'm a plot twist.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
They thought that they got somebody whose family was just
in a shell shock, stated I was, yeah, but I
remember every single second for him. I remember every single second.
I started recording phone calls, I started asking questions. Use
your voice, people, use your voice and go to the
Betrayal Project. Find them. They found me. And it has
(43:59):
been so at your release, I've been able to speak
his story. I've been able to find people that.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Say need it. She's not crazy. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
You know you don't chilt your head and say, oh,
I'm so sorry and say then in your head that
poor girl, well, she's got to find somebody to blame
for grief.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
So listen, Ellie, that's why you're here. You're going to
be a bright light. He will not die in Bean.
You're going to continue his legacy, and you're going to
tell a story. We'll get you back next week. I
want to thank everybody. Hopefully you got some really good
stuff this week. Tune in again next week to hear more.
Ellie's going to tell you some of the stuff she's
been doing since We'll connect you don't forget to look for.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Us on X.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
We're out there. There's two great groups Former Feds dot
org Humanity Betrayal Project dot org. You guys next week,
love y'all. Talk to you soon. Ellie, stay tuned. Don't
go anywhere, Okay. The Stan
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