August 21, 2025 • 47 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Wow, Hey, welcome back everybody to another episode of Wellness Uncensored.
I am Patty G a psychiatric nurse practitioner. I'm your
host here today, and I'm going to welcome you back
every week. This is actually entering into our third season.
I can't believe it. We are here for you because
of you, and to help you to really hear a
(00:52):
lot of what's going on out there that you may
not hear on the mainstream media. And like they all say,
tell a vision, a lot of times you're going to
hear things that maybe don't make sense or you think
there's really something big and scary coming up. And it's
great that you all tune in to other alternative listening
stations of podcasts like ours, because we're out there out
(01:13):
on the street, living life, working and finding different things
that are actually going on amongst all of us that
we just don't seem to get the space or the
airtime on those national news media sites, and I really
don't think they want you to know about things that
we talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So we are here.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It kind of came as an evolution from that pandemic,
one that I hope we never have to encounter again.
Don't think we will, because many of us now have
been able to spread the word and there's a lot
of new information coming out to deal with all the
misinformation that we had gotten over the past five years.
But what this website and the show generally is trying
(01:51):
to get you as things to heal forward. So many
people I knew were going to be affected during the
pandemic and after with just different ways to do the things,
wor coping skills, anxiety depression, kids growing up with masks
on their face, breathing in just you know, absolute dirt.
And here we are today and it's now like, Okay,
everything's fine, everything's normal. So today I have the wonderful
(02:14):
pleasure of having my post with me Gail Sailor. Gail
is actually a survivor like myself. She was on our
podcast a little while back, and you know what with
Gail has driven in terms of just getting the word
out has been phenomenal and her story will we'll definitely
have her on again to share her story. But today
(02:34):
we want to talk about a lot of different.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Things that are going on.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
We've got a great new website with our group and
a lot of the things that we're doing out there nationally.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
And internationally for everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And Gail's got a lot of great information that we're
sharing on X. So we're going to talk to you
about jumping into some of those X spaces and so yeah,
so all that stuff and more.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I will share a little bit about my book.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
If you really want to hear a lot of the
behind the scenes information, you can pick it up. It's
a they call me Harriet from me feeling like I
was running an underground for almost four years during the pandemic.
You can get it on Amson or you can get
it on my website. It's Pattigilliano Wellness at oh Patigilliano
Wellness dot com. I was thinking of an email, but yeah,
(03:18):
Pattigilliano Wellness. So yeah, so Gail, come on and join us,
let's talk. Let's talk what's going on today.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Welcome, well Oh, thanks for having me on. This is
a great topic and I like I'm really glad we're
talking about just the whole psychological effect and how to
heal from that, because you see a lot of well,
we see a lot of people still needing that support
dealing with loss or you know, just the whole family
(03:48):
shattering of families that has happened, that is still healing,
and that's very emotionally devastating for people.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It is.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You're right, you know, the shattering of families. I think
there's a big aftermath that many people may not even realize.
And I can't imagine that it didn't affect more households,
and though maybe we haven't touched on them all yet,
I just I happened upon a person on LinkedIn and
I'm hoping to get him on to share his story.
But yet another fellow survivor from what we finally call
(04:15):
is rem Death of your Dale survived.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I survived.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So many people were survivors, but so many people also
were murdered. And the aftermath of people and families. Whatever
side of the fence you may be on, there really
shouldn't be sides, but people are just struggling with what
really happened, and it has broken up families, it has
devastated people in loss and grief.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
So yeah, so, I.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Don't know, do you want to talk a little bit
more about where we've come from and our group and
the website.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And then yeah, sure. So so we started Betrayal Project
USA dot org. It's a five A one C three
and we started it. It's it's a victim it's a
victim run, victim driven organization. And so there are eleven
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board members. I happened to be the president and every
single board member. You can find the profiles under board
members and about us on the website, the Trail Project
USA dot org. But they all come to the board
with different experiences, right and so, but but it's also
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it's different experiences, but it's a shared experience. And so
we truly believed that it should be people who have
this shared experience, who had skin in the game, who
understand exactly what happened. So like you and I are survivors,
we understand what happened on the inside. Whistleblowers understand what
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happened on the inside. Many of the family members who
are on the board or that we serve do not
understand what happened on the inside, and they're left with
a lot of questions, a lot of chaos. They can't
put the pieces together, and we want to kind of
help do that by connecting them with people with that
(06:15):
shared experience. So we formed because, you know, after years
of involvement in many initiatives, an investment of time, talent, resources,
the efforts sometimes diverted from the original mission, which because
there's so many things to deal with in the in
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the world, and so we really felt like something that
was victim led, victim driven, would continue to stay focused
on that that need for accountability and transparency because like
the topic you know the name of your of the
show today, right, learn from the past, not to repeat
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the future. If we don't have transparentarancy first and foremost,
we'll repeat this over and over and over again. Because
it didn't start with COVID and it's not going to
end with COVID. So we we finally have to have
some level of transparency as to what happened, why it happened,
what went wrong, How did doctors and nurses even lose
(07:19):
their virtue? Right, I mean, I mean and get away
from the care of patients. There's so many questions and
so many things that still need to be out in
the open, so we'll be we're working for that. And
I always hesitate to use the word demand justice, but
we do want accountability, we want we want the truth
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first and foremost, we want the truth and the transparency
because there's a lot of confirmation bias out there and
we need that transparency and truth for victims to heal.
They will always wonder, am I crazy? Am I right?
Did I experience what I experience? You know, those types
of things, and so they deserve that transfer parency, They
deserve to not be gas lit, but to be you know,
(08:05):
confirmed that it you know the truth, you know the
truth confirmed. But I always say accountability because there is
a need for accountability. There are people that need to
be held accountable. So we're going to still strive for that,
and then of course for the change, you know, getting
rid of the prep Act, which I call the purp Act. Right,
(08:26):
So I like that, Sure, I mean not a bunch
of perpetrators, Truly, we are not all created equal. If
some groups of people have immunity, right, I don't have
immunity for anything I did during COVID. If I robbed
a bank during COVID, I'm like, oh, COVID brain. I
can't like do that, you know, so nobody should have
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immunity for manythings so that we are all all created equal.
And then also, you know, there's other types of change too,
simple things like in Texas, for example, the Special Session
is going to have a bill to make ivermactin over
the counter rights. Things like that can be done very quickly,
(09:09):
very easy, and there's no reason to not do them.
I think enough everybody's admitted now that you know, millions
of people were made better with these protocols, and so yeah,
so we're gonna be you know, we want to collaborate
with other organizations who have similar who have similar missions,
(09:33):
you know, because there's there's groups on the vaccine side
that have been fighting for medical freedom for decades. There
are groups that I connect with that have been trying
to reform hospice. There are groups that have been talking
about the you know, the falsifying brain death and whether
(09:54):
brain death is even a thing. Right, So we're uh,
there's groups that are fighting the euthanasia move meant, you know,
the medical assistance in dying that's in Canada and really
it is it is in the United States too. In
many states, I learned something about you know, how euthanasia
(10:16):
isn't even technically a climb in some states. In Texas,
I assisted suicide is a misdemeanor. I don't know if
you can do that. I was shocked. So it's tough
to believe.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But you know, it's just all in how you decorate it.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, So there's a lot of like minded trying to
you know, we're going to work with pro life groups
that have been fighting. The different states have different laws
around taking patients, you know, giving up on patients basically
is what I call it. Texas had the ten day rule.
(10:57):
In ten days, if the patient wasn't going to come
out of a coma, then they could just take them
off of life support, starve them, not give them water.
Until the baby Tinsley case several years ago, many years ago,
that fought that ten day rule and she was eventually
allowed to live. She was two years old. Now she
(11:19):
is recovering. Yeah, and so Texas changed it to the
twenty five day rule. But we're still fighting the twenty
five day rule because it's still life is life is
life right, and there's one author of life and death.
So that's gott.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Amen to that.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But yeah, so, yeah, so how can people you know,
we talk about how people can reach out to us.
You know, the website is beautiful and I think more
people need to get a chance to take a look
at it. But you're right, it's got everybody's information on there,
and it talks a little bit about you know, what
the group as an organization we do, but yeah, tell
us little more about that.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, so there's so many ways people can help us
to like achieve our mission. Our our mission statement is
out there, but there's you know, if like you can
share the stories that are out there, the real stories
of both protocol, either Protocol survivors, Protocol deaths, COVID shots,
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injuries and deaths, or other medical betrayal. So share the
stories that are put out there. It will get the
message out. Just share them, Share them, Share them. If
you have a story of that nature, tell your story publicly.
I know it takes a lot of moral courage to
do that, but it's also healing. And a lot of
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people tell their stories and they don't know if they
can do it, and then when they do it, it
empowers them and they've told this, you're suffering with that,
what happened anyways, right, and so you are. You can't
deny the rumination. Everybody knows if they have a story
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that they're ruminating about it, and so tell it, tell
it publicly. We'll guide you through telling it. It's not
like we're just going to make you cold tell it.
It's a very easy process. We make it easy. So
tell your story. If you know somebody who is afraid
to tell their story, help them tell it, help them,
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help them submit, help come on the interview with them,
and even help them be their support, you know that
will that's the way you can help us get the
message out. You mean you can. There's a volunteer part.
You can give your time or you and your talent.
We have a lot of people, talented people volunteering doing
things with media or you know other Everybody wants us
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to be on the media creative team, but you know
we we have other boring teams to like accountability and
things like that that you can if you're passionate about,
you know, working with legislators, whatever it is. Just tell
us what you're passionate about and we'll find a place
for you. So time, talent, and treasure, donate, you know,
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donate every little bit helps you know, we're we're all
just volunteers staying engaged. We will put action items up
there so stay informed. We are going to put things
that are going on locally and global, or locally and
mostly nationally, so that you know what's important in the news,
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what's happening in different states, what you can do, calls
to action. We're going to be putting a lot of
that out there, getting you know, stay engaged with us.
On our social media. We have an X spaces my
ex account. The X account is right there. It's at
Betrayal Underscore p r o J we do. We are
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doing every Saturday from one pm Central, it's two pm Eastern.
It's about a two hour space we do, and we
do a space on different topics that have to do
with medical freedo them. Come on and engage with that.
Share our spaces, share our X account. It is where
we can get a lot of information out right now.
(15:10):
We're gonna be starting a podcast soon called a Nation Betrayed.
Hopefully that will launch next week. Let's see so so
engagement we're going to have. We have a sub stack
we can engage with that. We have a Facebook group,
we have support groups if you need support, there are
support groups for you. We have a Monday night support group.
We have the PTSD workshop that you lead on Thursdays
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and everybody is like, amazing, is amazing. We have a
men's support group because men deal with things differently. You know,
we we want to give you support because we know
that they're walking wounded who need to get better, to
move forward into to take action, you know, become a
story ambassador, you can, you can even sponsor a story.
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We know people who will do a documentary, you know,
they they cost money. But help people collect their medical
records if you know something about that, because that there's
a lot of answers are in there. If you know
how to read medical records, help somebody read their medical
records and answer questions that are in there. Connect us
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with ethical allies, doctor, ethical ethical nurses, doctors, legal experts, whistleblowers,
anyone who's influential in this freedom movement, in this medical
freedom movement. And then you know, pray for us. You always,
you know, pray for us and speak boldly share our mission.
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We really are fueled by faith. And pray for the
victims because they really need it, especially as we go
into this time August through January, because twenty twenty one
was a devastating mess of death and it was intentional
and there are a lot of people. There are a
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lot of widows, parents, brothers, sisters, daughters and sons. There
are people who are really suffering as they come into
August through January, and people need to kind of understand.
There's grief and trauma, as you know, and then there's
disenfranchised grief and trauma where people are like, oh, come on,
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that didn't really happen, right, like you know, I mean,
they did the best they can. It's just misplaced grief,
pat pat pat right on the head. And so people
are suffering with that and and that is probably the
most difficult kind of grief. And so for survivors who
are out there, they need to tell their stories because
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we know what happened from the inside, and we can
help that disenfranchised grief because we can put pieces together
that they don't have. So that's my long ramble about
how you can help us.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
And it was kind of all encompassing too, because you
touched just about on every wheel of everything. That's why
the group needs so much help and support. And what
I love too, I mean shared it beautifully. There are
a lot of other people out there with specific needs groups,
whether it be the what you talked about with euthanasia,
with people going into hospice. There's a lot of information,
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false beliefs, and inaccuracies of things that are done. And
while there are people who are victims of a lot
of different things. You know, we moved from the COVID
pandemic into the whole vaccine injury thing. There's so many
of us, it makes sense that our group are dealing
primarily with victims and survivors and in that role, yeah,
some other people can cross into it, but this is
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an enormous pot. What you mentioned too about sharing the stories,
you know, a lot of what I do with that
trauma group, part of trauma therapy is to do exposure,
exposure to the traumatic event, and when people share their story,
it's actually a form of that exposure therapy. To speak it,
write it, read it, project it, and it actually does
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help to heal. So it's an absolutely profound way to
help people that have been suffering in silence while the
rest of the family goes around. You know, come on, Jamie,
it's been three years. You should feel better.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Now Jamie doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
But yeah, there's so much that our group does, and
there's so much that I think if we had the
right momentum of more people gathering and joining and helping
us in whatever way they can, I think would be
really profound and extraordinarily helpful. There's lots of ways to get,
you know, involved, there's ways to just tune in. If
you join in on the X space this Saturday at
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one pm Central, you can learn. All you have to
do is jump on the X space and just listen.
You don't have to speak, Nobody will see her face,
but come in and learn about what's really going on
out there in the world. It's really that important.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And you've got a cop.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
If you want to speak, you know, certainly you can
teach us something, right.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, that is where I found some of the most
amazing people. I had a scientist jump on once and
he's in somewhere down I don't even want to say
it wrong, but it's one of those countries way over
by China, and while he works on a lot of
different things, he was one of those reverse engineers for
some of the biogenetics. So a lot of people come
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on the gentleman that I met on LinkedIn. I'm really
hopeful to get him on here he is. He put
his picture of himself on high flow oxygen getting room
de severe, but yet here he is today. He survived.
So I'm so excited. We've tried to connect this past week.
But I want to hear his story. I'd love for
him to speak and talk about it. But there's so
many people like him, like you, like myself, and we're
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all out there, and the more we gain momentum and
learn and share. The one question someone asked about is
you know, do you feel that they're going to try
to plan another plandemic? Absolutely. When you drive fear through
any type of socialized you know, a country and culture,
beer is the greatest thing to shut people down. It
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just decompresses them. And there's so much I know, Gail,
you were just talking about some of the stuff. You
want to mention what they're doing in the schools.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I hadn't heard about.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
That in Illinois, but they're going crazy with indoctrinating.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It's our kids.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah, so I'll do that, And I just want to
one thing on the future pandemic is they're already starting
to raise alarms in Texas about a new strain of COVID,
and at the same time, it's like COVID is Dad,
And I will tell you Doctor David Martin spoke at
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an event that we had in Oklahoma at the Capitol
and at dinner afterwards, he said, we have a very
short period of time to get our PhD in this stuff,
because there are sixty eight pathogens that are patented and
can be deployed at any time and patent by the DoD,
just like this one was. And he said, COVID was
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a big test and we failed fear drove what we did,
not only what we did to ourselves, but what we
did to each other. And so we don't have long
And he's been looking at this since the rise and
attacks in two thousand and three in Tokyo. That's how
long he's been involved in following these things and investigating
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as far as the schools. So Saturday's Saturday's Spaces is
going to be a bit focused on these health centers,
these public health centers that they're setting up in the
school system. And so there's a lot of danger there
for these health centers being run by the public education system.
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And it's already rearing its head in Illinois because they
passed legislation to require your third grade and up students
to have a mental health exam. And if if you
don't see where that's going to lead you, just you know,
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look at some of the first of all, just from
a big, big harma, big pharma perspective, big arma, You're
you're looking at a lot of kids that are going
to get stuck on drugs, right, Like I mean, everybody
can display a little depression, right or anxiety, especially if
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you're examining kids. So you're gonna you're going to be
looking at You're going to be looking at parents who
are falsely accused of things. You're going to be looking
at kids getting put on these psychotropic drugs. You're going
to be looking at if you listen to any of
the d transitioner kids that can have been testifying, you know,
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as to why they thought that they were trans you know,
you you there's a documentary that Epoch Times did and
one of the girls. It simply started with her telling
her school counselor that her brother had an easier time
adapting to high school, and that turned into she wants
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to be a boy. They convinced her it is because
she wants to be a boy, because they worked on her.
This is this is danger danger, danger zone. And then
you go into you know, they're they're going to have
the right to give your kid birth control pills if
you whether you want it or not. Vaccinations. I think
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it was for mont that had the child that was
vaccinated against his parents will with the COVID vaccine. They
took it to court and the court sided with the school.
So that is a problem, right that they could you know, well,
your child said they wanted it, right, and so there's
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you know, you're just going to have all level this
is going to take it to a new level of
psychological grooming of kids.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
It really is, it really is.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
You know, sorry, you know as a mental health professional,
how easy it is to manipulate a kid's mind.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
It is easy. It's scary, and that's why you.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Know, the whole parental structure, you know, we we we
water down the whole parental structure, you know, with kids
having kids, and then you know, who's a good parent,
where's the role models, where's the morals, where's the values,
where's any kind of faith in any of this? And
again not to try to like cram it all into one,
you know, one religion. The idea is when you grow
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up and you're raised to have highness, compassion, a moral compass,
now it's anything goes. And if you don't let your
child try and experience, experiment and do different things, now
the question becomes, why are you not allowing to do this.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Kind of stuff?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
And you know, then they had the transvestites, you know,
reading in the classroom, the kindergarten classroom. It's just been
an indoctrination. And then let's go to didn't earn it
DEI was to be so accepting of everyone and all
and whatever we wanted to do, deviant behavior and all.
And that's not okay. It's just not okay. So as
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get you started to pull it back, they're kicking and
screaming and they're going for our children.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, they're going for the kids for sure. And it's
you know, and there's and and even if if you
think about like how many times they've tried to change
the definition of pedophile, right, things like that to minor
attracted minor attracted persons so that it didn't sound so
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criminal while it is criminal. And at the same time,
They've tried many times to bring the age of consent
for sex to ten years old, pen that has been fought.
I mean, we've had to fight that battle in Texas
even and we you know, we've even had to fight
rules like this was back in two thousand and five
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where I've been involved in the medical freedom fight for
a long time, but where they wanted to make it
a law that said if a school teacher, principal, a
school counselor, or school nurse recommended a child to be
put on psychotropic drugs and the parent didn't do it,
the state shall remove the child. They tried to pass that,
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and so many parents went down and testified. And that's
what parents need to do. They need to get involved,
and they need to be down at their school boards,
down at their They need to be calling their legislators.
They need to be they need to be protesting, they
need to be quite honestly, I'd have my kid out
of school already, Like my grandkids are homeschooled. They're homeschool
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for a reason because this stuff is crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It is crazy, and a lot of people have taken
their kids out of schools, and a lot of parents
are doing that. But you know, again, I think there's
people that are just they're blind to all this. One
person asked, you know, why do so many people turn
a blind eye?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
And you know what is it?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
If a kid refuses?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
You know, this is where parents and children need to
have conversations. Parents need to be involved in hearing what
their kids stressors and concerns are. You know, peer pressure,
and there's all kinds of emotions that go on with kids.
And you know, it's the truth. A lot of times
when I get kids, you know, it's because the parents
just haven't taken some time to listen, or the kids
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haven't developed that relationship with the kids. Sometimes that when
they're in trouble, the child will know to come to
the parent. And we've got to foster that. We've got
to build that strength because kids meet adults to help
a lot of times they can't make some of these decisions.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
They do, and sometimes it does come down to the parents,
like a lot of times. Right, So today we live
in a world where everybody's chasing the almighty dollar and
motherhood has been demonized and you know, oh, you're just
a mother, like you know, so you know, the most
important role in the world and This is done so
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that the state can raise your child, and then you
have the divorce rate that skyrockets, and parents are too
busy fighting each other. Even if they agreed, they would
disagree just because they don't want to agree and co parent,
and they forget that the children are not chattel. They
are actually human beings that you're that you only have
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a short period of time to develop within them what
is within them, and sometimes you do have to put
aside everything for the sake of those kids and teach
them the values. Like I hear sometimes different arguments like, well,
how will they learn how to deal with these situations
if I don't just stick a in there? Well, they're
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not prepared sometimes, like social media, we let social media
raise kids, right, we're not even prepared for sometimes the
fights that happen or the meanness that happens on social media.
How is a nine year old or tent You see
a lot more suicide right in kids because of social media,
bullying and different things that they can't handle. And you know,
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I know more than one parent who has had a
child kill themselves, who regrets spent you know, they've never
I've never heard anybody say I wish I would have
spent more time at work. It's always I wish I
would have spent more time with my kid, with my
family member, right.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
So true, and we will be talking about that too,
because as you mentioned, like the time of year, it
was like the killing fields from COVID in twenty twenty
one and suicides. I lost several staff to suicide. September
is National suicide Prevention Month, and yeah, you know it's
I Also, when dealing with a lot of adults, I
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can't tell you how hard it is to hear stories
of adults that are thirty, forty, fifty years old that
have had such trauma, neglect and abuse. Some of these
folks now had gone on to have their own children
and proliferate that trauma, neglect and abuse. And so it
is a cycle, and that cycle has not been broken.
The only problem is is now we have more and
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more and more families and children, and we've really got
to get back to just foundations of good parenting, good
relationship building, good morals. And I'm sorry, but I think
you need to bring faith back into the focus.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Oh, you absolutely do. There's an old saying, deal with
your deal with your own demons or they will raise
your children.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, and that's a pretty scary thought. That is a
pretty scary thought.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The one person asked about what's the legal what is
going to be the legal age of consent if they
can say what they want, even if it's against the
parents' wishes. I mean, right now, it's kind of up
in the air because some states are giving kids some voices,
but it's currently eighteen that I know.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, I mean, but they've ignored that and stepped all over, right,
I mean, I think I think the kid that at
the Vermont was like, I think he was only six
or seven years old and the parents student lost. Yeah, Like,
so I know that there're a lot of a lot
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of the kids like that were transitioned. They were just
removed from their parents home at fifteen or sixteen. If
they wouldn't affirm, like so, I they've been giving, they've
been they've been deteriorating that legal age of consent, right, So,
(32:54):
I think I think if you look up, for example,
age of consent for sex in many states, it's fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, right,
So it's all different things, right, medical procedures, Yeah, I mean,
but they'll bully the parents into you know, you don't
want to lose your kid, do you. We'll call CPS
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or we'll call you know what I mean. They bully
the parents into these into psychotropic drugs.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
One well, and you know, here's the psychotropic drugs. Here's
an interesting fact. Now he's an adult, but he was
a minor when his mom suggested he gets some therapy
because he was just really going through some stress, graduating
high school, starting college, YadA, YadA. The psychiatrist, in their
infinite wisdom, just slapped him on with not only heavy medications,
(33:47):
but very high doses of medications that I know I
would never prescribe. Starting out, well, they're on his record.
And guess what. He comes from a good family. He's
got a very strong ethic. He's played football through high school, college,
but now decided he wants to go into the military.
Guess what I had to re explain why perhaps another
provider made a bad choice seeing a child for one time,
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and now that could have destroyed his career. And it's
those life choices that get me so upset when I
see they make dramatic choices wherever they fall, children, adults,
whatever it is you make these life choices and you
don't realize their repercussions. It's got to get back to
foundational work of one. How about it you mentioned about
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the moms. You know, we demonize moms. How about maybe
some people are just doing too much. I have people
coming to me for stimulants because they work two jobs.
They get tired driving from one job to the next.
They want to live the Jones life and they need
a medication to do that. I'm like, so we're just
going to jack you up. That doesn't make sense to me.
People are over over, over committed, and nobody's really looking
(34:56):
at what's going on, especially to our little people. Kid. Yeah,
you know, I think that's a foundational, a foundational issue
that we're just people aren't looking at.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
You know.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
That's always not to always bring it back to faith,
but it's kind of like Martha, Martha and Mary in
the Bible, right, choose the better thing? Are you going
to choose to be busy? Are you going to choose
to have the devil keep you busy? Or are you
going to choose the better thing? And I would choose.
I was one of those moms that always had to
chase the dream, thinking I was doing it for my family.
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And if I could do life over again, I would
choose the better thing. I would choose less of the
luxuries in life and the career building and the you know,
all of the things I thought were necessary because Cosmopolitan
told me so, you know, like the magazines said I
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should be that kind of a woman. But I would
I would choose the better thing, and I would have
choose to spend more time being a mother because my
I thought my mother, being a stay at home mother,
didn't know what she was talking about, that she chose
that she wasted her life, when really she spent you know,
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sixty eight years in the most beautiful marriage ever ever made,
and she did the most important work, and that was
raising children and taking care of her home and loving
her husband and he loved her, and you know, so
like it was all backwards, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I think people really are chasing something, and what are
you all really chasing? You know, I do want to
give a couple of quick tips and then we're going
to jump right back into this. But you know, again,
preparation we're going to September is going to be you know,
kind of a fast forward to nurturing and healing the
mental side of things. But a lot of you are
probably wondering, like, well, what do we do? How do
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we get off the wheel? How do we like make
this better life that you want. You really have to
pick your priorities, and your priorities should start with when
you wake up every day, find something that you're grateful for.
Start with gratitude. Say you know what, thank God I
got up today and I don't have any aches and pains,
or thank god I got up today and I can
smell the coffee ruin and it smells so good. Thank
God I got up today, and I can smell the
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rain falling outside. Thank God that I got up today.
And I'm just going to try to make one person smile,
because a lot of times when people are hurting, many
folks in our group, the trauma group, they have found
such healing in helping someone else because they can't take
away the pain that they feel. So I talk about
gratitude self care, and we'll talk more in different shows
(37:37):
about what self care looks like. But nurturing all the
things that I teach people to do in trauma, about
breeding and journaling and positive affirmations. I can't stress enough
to folks, how do you start to change the process.
You have to start with nurturing yourself first, to start
filling in the gaps and healing where you need the
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most work. And it has to start with you, because
if you can't help you first, you can't help anyone else.
And whether it be you, your spouse, your children, your grandchildren,
take care of you and then you'll be great to
other people. But think about self care. And self care
is very simple. My triangle. I tell people nutrition, sleep,
and movement. I gently call it movement because people, you know,
(38:20):
they hate that word exercise, but your body doesn't know.
If you do jumpin jacks, or if you're on a treadmill,
or if you're walking with you know, soup cans in
your hand. Your body likes movement. It releases great endorphins.
So just a tip for all of you. This is
kind of where Yale and I want you to get to.
But we also want you to know about how to
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get connected and how to understand a lot of the
stuff that's going on around you that you may not
be aware of. And you know, the Betrayal Project USA
dot org is a great place to start.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
So Yeah, it really is. You know what I've learned
about smiling. You can confirm whether this is true or not.
Probably that I learned it. It was part of a
Sunday sermon that when you smile at somebody, it triggers
the same effect in their brain as when they smile.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
So, like you can literally affect somebody's emotional state just
by smiling at them. And I love that because I'm
always smiling at people. I'm like, I like this little
kid came up to me one time and said, ma'am.
He said, you look when you smile, you look like
the sunshine just burst out of your face. I was like,
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his mom was like, I'm so sorry. I'm like, no,
that's so. That's like the sweetest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
It's the truth.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
And you know, that's such an important point, Dale because
when you think about the pandemic, we put masks on
everybody and we.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Took away emotion.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I want to share something real quick because it's in
the book. But I wrote this probably around March of
twenty twenty when I was working and we're all like
locking ourselves away and throwing cloth masks on our face.
And it's very quick It goes like this. It says
the eyes beyond the mask. I look at you, but
you do not return the stair. I see you, but
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I seem invisible to you. Do you know what I feel?
Do you know what I'm thinking? Do you know I
had a rough night? Is it possible we'll ever exchange
a word? Have we forgotten the human connection? Would you
know if I needed help? If I did not call out?
I now have eyes without a face. My thoughts are hidden,
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my smile buried. Yet I learned to connect with the
human spirit and compassion. The face is lost, but the
eyes will take you to the soul of someone. If
we cannot smile on the outside, we must connect. Let
it be through our eyes, showing reverence to each other
and all that we do, until one day we can
smile to each other's face. And it's that human emotion.
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The smile is so important.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
And laughter.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
They did a study six year old's laugh smile about
two hundred times a day. Yeah, maybe fifteen. And I've
talked to other adults that are like, are you kidding?
I don't even think I smiled once today. Wow, I
have to drive that process, we really.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
Do, man, I smile all the time, even when I'm
even when things are hard, I ye have advises smile
and I'm you know, yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Wow, that's it's very I think the masks are one
of the things that really did I mean, it did
affect mental health so deeply, you know. I just and
just the human connection too that they they ended. You know,
my father was in a nursing home and when and
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he he is very much he used to be. He
was very used to being around family and connecting. You know.
Him and my mom were married since from when she
was fifteen, right, so we up until he whe when
there's home and they sat on the love seat and
still held hands and watched TV together. So they yeah,
(42:05):
so they you know, but it it almost killed him
just to be away, just for them to be away
from each other, and her having to go to his
window to look in at him and talk to him.
And the first time they got to see each other,
he had to wear a mask and he was crying.
(42:26):
He just wanted to kiss his wife, right, and he couldn't.
Like it was it was very I still have that
video of him reaching for her and he was in
the hospital and so they let her in and he
was reaching for her, and he was crying, and he
kept having to pull up his mask, and just the
fact that they couldn't smile at each other, touch each other,
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Like all of those things affect your mental health. I
don't know about you, but I know for me as
a survivor, the hardest thing was the isolation. The isolation
was out of all of the abuse and everything that
almost killed me until Huckleberry rescued me. It was the isolation.
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And I have heard from many survivors where they say,
I feel angry because of the abandonment, even though now
they know they truly weren't abandoned. They that their family
was locked out. It's the isolation was the worst. It
messes with your head, it does, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
And at the hospital I worked at when I was
in ICU, and even on the med Sarch floor, my
husband was in facilities there at the time, and my
CEO threatened him and any other employee you had a
family member, you cross the lines and go see a
family member and you will be terminated.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Wow, And unfortunately you know you do.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
You're like you are like ball and chain because you
need your income, right, we have no ability to do
anything without an income, and so he chose to just
guard and be safe and have other people tell him
how I was doing. But that isolation, Yeah, I mean,
and that's what was So it was maddening, it was
it made me angry, but it was also inspiring. And
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I thought, by God, if I get out of here,
and you know we've talked about it, that was my prayer, God,
if you get me out of here, I will make
a difference every day for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
And that's what I had tend to do. That's why
the book came to be.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
It's raw, and you know in there I have stories
about I will never forget the patients. I will never
forget them. You can only help so many people at
a time. It's like when the ship's going down. You
can't save everyone, but you try to save as many
as you can hold in the hands of Nancy. And
I see you, and you know those darn nurses in
the unit, they thought I was there to watch them.
I couldn't even believe it. Like I don't know who
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else gets a leader to come into a hospital at
eleven o'clock at night on a Saturday night and stay
a whole shift and just be with one patient. It
made one nurse's life a lot easier. But she's swore
I was watching her. But that one patient, all she
wanted to do was hold hands because she was afraid.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
She was scared, and.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
They wouldn't let her son, you know. And there's other
stories in there like that, and we let people die
alone in an isolation and it did.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Not have to be.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
It was all all make believe. So we have to
be smarter, folks. We've got to be smarter. Gail, myself,
the team, you know, Betrail Project USA dot org. We're
out there. We're out there on X. We want you
to hear, we want you to be involved, share your stories.
We want to help you heal, we want to help
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you to know more. We've only got a few seconds left.
But Gail, what else would you like to share before
you Just engage?
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Engage with us, follow us, share our content. It's growing
and growing and growing. Right now, it's not ready for
mobile phones, so you got to use a computer. But
it will be in the next two weeks. It will
be all set for every every type of advice that
you can can use. But I appreciate you all you do.
(46:06):
Patty you too, Gail.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
I mean, look, we would have never got to know
each other if it hadn't been for this tragedy.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
But I'm so grateful, and that's one piece of gratitude
that you can start with.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It absolutely is. Listen, folks, we're here every Thursday, three pm.
Tune in. It'll be very provocative and riveting, sometimes more
than others, but I hope we were able to share
something that brings reality and life to you. Our children
are our future. You are our future. But you got
to be connected and be plugged in. Tune into us
wherever you can look into Betrayal Project USA dot org.
(46:39):
You'll get a lot of great information. Tune into the
X space this Saturday and you all know how to
reach me. My website's up there. I will see you
all next Thursday. Have a wonderful weekend, and remember speak gratitude.
Start the day grateful and the rest of the day
you'll be smiling all day.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Take care everybody. Have a great one, but
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Back to have
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Wow, Hey, welcome back everybody to another episode of Wellness Uncensored.
I am Patty G a psychiatric nurse practitioner. I'm your
host here today, and I'm going to welcome you back
every week. This is actually entering into our third season.
I can't believe it. We are here for you because
of you, and to help you to really hear a
(00:52):
lot of what's going on out there that you may
not hear on the mainstream media. And like they all say,
tell a vision, a lot of times you're going to
hear things that maybe don't make sense or you think
there's really something big and scary coming up. And it's
great that you all tune in to other alternative listening
stations of podcasts like ours, because we're out there out
(01:13):
on the street, living life, working and finding different things
that are actually going on amongst all of us that
we just don't seem to get the space or the
airtime on those national news media sites, and I really
don't think they want you to know about things that
we talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
So we are here.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It kind of came as an evolution from that pandemic,
one that I hope we never have to encounter again.
Don't think we will, because many of us now have
been able to spread the word and there's a lot
of new information coming out to deal with all the
misinformation that we had gotten over the past five years.
But what this website and the show generally is trying
(01:51):
to get you as things to heal forward. So many
people I knew were going to be affected during the
pandemic and after with just different ways to do the things,
wor coping skills, anxiety depression, kids growing up with masks
on their face, breathing in just you know, absolute dirt.
And here we are today and it's now like, Okay,
everything's fine, everything's normal. So today I have the wonderful
(02:14):
pleasure of having my post with me Gail Sailor. Gail
is actually a survivor like myself. She was on our
podcast a little while back, and you know what with
Gail has driven in terms of just getting the word
out has been phenomenal and her story will we'll definitely
have her on again to share her story. But today
(02:34):
we want to talk about a lot of different.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Things that are going on.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
We've got a great new website with our group and
a lot of the things that we're doing out there nationally.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
And internationally for everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And Gail's got a lot of great information that we're
sharing on X. So we're going to talk to you
about jumping into some of those X spaces and so yeah,
so all that stuff and more.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I will share a little bit about my book.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
If you really want to hear a lot of the
behind the scenes information, you can pick it up. It's
a they call me Harriet from me feeling like I
was running an underground for almost four years during the pandemic.
You can get it on Amson or you can get
it on my website. It's Pattigilliano Wellness at oh Patigilliano
Wellness dot com. I was thinking of an email, but yeah,
(03:18):
Pattigilliano Wellness. So yeah, so Gail, come on and join us,
let's talk. Let's talk what's going on today.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Welcome, well Oh, thanks for having me on. This is
a great topic and I like I'm really glad we're
talking about just the whole psychological effect and how to
heal from that, because you see a lot of well,
we see a lot of people still needing that support
dealing with loss or you know, just the whole family
(03:48):
shattering of families that has happened, that is still healing,
and that's very emotionally devastating for people.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
It is.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You're right, you know, the shattering of families. I think
there's a big aftermath that many people may not even realize.
And I can't imagine that it didn't affect more households,
and though maybe we haven't touched on them all yet,
I just I happened upon a person on LinkedIn and
I'm hoping to get him on to share his story.
But yet another fellow survivor from what we finally call
(04:15):
is rem Death of your Dale survived.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I survived.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So many people were survivors, but so many people also
were murdered. And the aftermath of people and families. Whatever
side of the fence you may be on, there really
shouldn't be sides, but people are just struggling with what
really happened, and it has broken up families, it has
devastated people in loss and grief.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
So yeah, so, I.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Don't know, do you want to talk a little bit
more about where we've come from and our group and
the website.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And then yeah, sure. So so we started Betrayal Project
USA dot org. It's a five A one C three
and we started it. It's it's a victim it's a
victim run, victim driven organization. And so there are eleven
(05:10):
board members. I happened to be the president and every
single board member. You can find the profiles under board
members and about us on the website, the Trail Project
USA dot org. But they all come to the board
with different experiences, right and so, but but it's also
(05:32):
it's different experiences, but it's a shared experience. And so
we truly believed that it should be people who have
this shared experience, who had skin in the game, who
understand exactly what happened. So like you and I are survivors,
we understand what happened on the inside. Whistleblowers understand what
(05:54):
happened on the inside. Many of the family members who
are on the board or that we serve do not
understand what happened on the inside, and they're left with
a lot of questions, a lot of chaos. They can't
put the pieces together, and we want to kind of
help do that by connecting them with people with that
(06:15):
shared experience. So we formed because, you know, after years
of involvement in many initiatives, an investment of time, talent, resources,
the efforts sometimes diverted from the original mission, which because
there's so many things to deal with in the in
(06:35):
the world, and so we really felt like something that
was victim led, victim driven, would continue to stay focused
on that that need for accountability and transparency because like
the topic you know the name of your of the
show today, right, learn from the past, not to repeat
(06:57):
the future. If we don't have transparentarancy first and foremost,
we'll repeat this over and over and over again. Because
it didn't start with COVID and it's not going to
end with COVID. So we we finally have to have
some level of transparency as to what happened, why it happened,
what went wrong, How did doctors and nurses even lose
(07:19):
their virtue? Right, I mean, I mean and get away
from the care of patients. There's so many questions and
so many things that still need to be out in
the open, so we'll be we're working for that. And
I always hesitate to use the word demand justice, but
we do want accountability, we want we want the truth
(07:41):
first and foremost, we want the truth and the transparency
because there's a lot of confirmation bias out there and
we need that transparency and truth for victims to heal.
They will always wonder, am I crazy? Am I right?
Did I experience what I experience? You know, those types
of things, and so they deserve that transfer parency, They
deserve to not be gas lit, but to be you know,
(08:05):
confirmed that it you know the truth, you know the
truth confirmed. But I always say accountability because there is
a need for accountability. There are people that need to
be held accountable. So we're going to still strive for that,
and then of course for the change, you know, getting
rid of the prep Act, which I call the purp Act. Right,
(08:26):
So I like that, Sure, I mean not a bunch
of perpetrators, Truly, we are not all created equal. If
some groups of people have immunity, right, I don't have
immunity for anything I did during COVID. If I robbed
a bank during COVID, I'm like, oh, COVID brain. I
can't like do that, you know, so nobody should have
(08:47):
immunity for manythings so that we are all all created equal.
And then also, you know, there's other types of change too,
simple things like in Texas, for example, the Special Session
is going to have a bill to make ivermactin over
the counter rights. Things like that can be done very quickly,
(09:09):
very easy, and there's no reason to not do them.
I think enough everybody's admitted now that you know, millions
of people were made better with these protocols, and so yeah,
so we're gonna be you know, we want to collaborate
with other organizations who have similar who have similar missions,
(09:33):
you know, because there's there's groups on the vaccine side
that have been fighting for medical freedom for decades. There
are groups that I connect with that have been trying
to reform hospice. There are groups that have been talking
about the you know, the falsifying brain death and whether
(09:54):
brain death is even a thing. Right, So we're uh,
there's groups that are fighting the euthanasia move meant, you know,
the medical assistance in dying that's in Canada and really
it is it is in the United States too. In
many states, I learned something about you know, how euthanasia
(10:16):
isn't even technically a climb in some states. In Texas,
I assisted suicide is a misdemeanor. I don't know if
you can do that. I was shocked. So it's tough
to believe.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But you know, it's just all in how you decorate it.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah, So there's a lot of like minded trying to
you know, we're going to work with pro life groups
that have been fighting. The different states have different laws
around taking patients, you know, giving up on patients basically
is what I call it. Texas had the ten day rule.
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In ten days, if the patient wasn't going to come
out of a coma, then they could just take them
off of life support, starve them, not give them water.
Until the baby Tinsley case several years ago, many years ago,
that fought that ten day rule and she was eventually
allowed to live. She was two years old. Now she
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is recovering. Yeah, and so Texas changed it to the
twenty five day rule. But we're still fighting the twenty
five day rule because it's still life is life is
life right, and there's one author of life and death.
So that's gott.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Amen to that.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But yeah, so, yeah, so how can people you know,
we talk about how people can reach out to us.
You know, the website is beautiful and I think more
people need to get a chance to take a look
at it. But you're right, it's got everybody's information on there,
and it talks a little bit about you know, what
the group as an organization we do, but yeah, tell
us little more about that.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, so there's so many ways people can help us
to like achieve our mission. Our our mission statement is
out there, but there's you know, if like you can
share the stories that are out there, the real stories
of both protocol, either Protocol survivors, Protocol deaths, COVID shots,
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injuries and deaths, or other medical betrayal. So share the
stories that are put out there. It will get the
message out. Just share them, Share them, Share them. If
you have a story of that nature, tell your story publicly.
I know it takes a lot of moral courage to
do that, but it's also healing. And a lot of
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people tell their stories and they don't know if they
can do it, and then when they do it, it
empowers them and they've told this, you're suffering with that,
what happened anyways, right, and so you are. You can't
deny the rumination. Everybody knows if they have a story
(12:58):
that they're ruminating about it, and so tell it, tell
it publicly. We'll guide you through telling it. It's not
like we're just going to make you cold tell it.
It's a very easy process. We make it easy. So
tell your story. If you know somebody who is afraid
to tell their story, help them tell it, help them,
(13:19):
help them submit, help come on the interview with them,
and even help them be their support, you know that
will that's the way you can help us get the
message out. You mean you can. There's a volunteer part.
You can give your time or you and your talent.
We have a lot of people, talented people volunteering doing
things with media or you know other Everybody wants us
(13:42):
to be on the media creative team, but you know
we we have other boring teams to like accountability and
things like that that you can if you're passionate about,
you know, working with legislators, whatever it is. Just tell
us what you're passionate about and we'll find a place
for you. So time, talent, and treasure, donate, you know,
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donate every little bit helps you know, we're we're all
just volunteers staying engaged. We will put action items up
there so stay informed. We are going to put things
that are going on locally and global, or locally and
mostly nationally, so that you know what's important in the news,
(14:23):
what's happening in different states, what you can do, calls
to action. We're going to be putting a lot of
that out there, getting you know, stay engaged with us.
On our social media. We have an X spaces my
ex account. The X account is right there. It's at
Betrayal Underscore p r o J we do. We are
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doing every Saturday from one pm Central, it's two pm Eastern.
It's about a two hour space we do, and we
do a space on different topics that have to do
with medical freedo them. Come on and engage with that.
Share our spaces, share our X account. It is where
we can get a lot of information out right now.
(15:10):
We're gonna be starting a podcast soon called a Nation Betrayed.
Hopefully that will launch next week. Let's see so so
engagement we're going to have. We have a sub stack
we can engage with that. We have a Facebook group,
we have support groups if you need support, there are
support groups for you. We have a Monday night support group.
We have the PTSD workshop that you lead on Thursdays
(15:34):
and everybody is like, amazing, is amazing. We have a
men's support group because men deal with things differently. You know,
we we want to give you support because we know
that they're walking wounded who need to get better, to
move forward into to take action, you know, become a
story ambassador, you can, you can even sponsor a story.
(15:59):
We know people who will do a documentary, you know,
they they cost money. But help people collect their medical
records if you know something about that, because that there's
a lot of answers are in there. If you know
how to read medical records, help somebody read their medical
records and answer questions that are in there. Connect us
(16:19):
with ethical allies, doctor, ethical ethical nurses, doctors, legal experts, whistleblowers,
anyone who's influential in this freedom movement, in this medical
freedom movement. And then you know, pray for us. You always,
you know, pray for us and speak boldly share our mission.
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We really are fueled by faith. And pray for the
victims because they really need it, especially as we go
into this time August through January, because twenty twenty one
was a devastating mess of death and it was intentional
and there are a lot of people. There are a
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lot of widows, parents, brothers, sisters, daughters and sons. There
are people who are really suffering as they come into
August through January, and people need to kind of understand.
There's grief and trauma, as you know, and then there's
disenfranchised grief and trauma where people are like, oh, come on,
(17:24):
that didn't really happen, right, like you know, I mean,
they did the best they can. It's just misplaced grief,
pat pat pat right on the head. And so people
are suffering with that and and that is probably the
most difficult kind of grief. And so for survivors who
are out there, they need to tell their stories because
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we know what happened from the inside, and we can
help that disenfranchised grief because we can put pieces together
that they don't have. So that's my long ramble about
how you can help us.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
And it was kind of all encompassing too, because you
touched just about on every wheel of everything. That's why
the group needs so much help and support. And what
I love too, I mean shared it beautifully. There are
a lot of other people out there with specific needs groups,
whether it be the what you talked about with euthanasia,
with people going into hospice. There's a lot of information,
(18:24):
false beliefs, and inaccuracies of things that are done. And
while there are people who are victims of a lot
of different things. You know, we moved from the COVID
pandemic into the whole vaccine injury thing. There's so many
of us, it makes sense that our group are dealing
primarily with victims and survivors and in that role, yeah,
some other people can cross into it, but this is
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an enormous pot. What you mentioned too about sharing the stories,
you know, a lot of what I do with that
trauma group, part of trauma therapy is to do exposure,
exposure to the traumatic event, and when people share their story,
it's actually a form of that exposure therapy. To speak it,
write it, read it, project it, and it actually does
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help to heal. So it's an absolutely profound way to
help people that have been suffering in silence while the
rest of the family goes around. You know, come on, Jamie,
it's been three years. You should feel better.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Now Jamie doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
But yeah, there's so much that our group does, and
there's so much that I think if we had the
right momentum of more people gathering and joining and helping
us in whatever way they can, I think would be
really profound and extraordinarily helpful. There's lots of ways to get,
you know, involved, there's ways to just tune in. If
you join in on the X space this Saturday at
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one pm Central, you can learn. All you have to
do is jump on the X space and just listen.
You don't have to speak, Nobody will see her face,
but come in and learn about what's really going on
out there in the world. It's really that important.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And you've got a cop.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
If you want to speak, you know, certainly you can
teach us something, right.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, that is where I found some of the most
amazing people. I had a scientist jump on once and
he's in somewhere down I don't even want to say
it wrong, but it's one of those countries way over
by China, and while he works on a lot of
different things, he was one of those reverse engineers for
some of the biogenetics. So a lot of people come
(20:24):
on the gentleman that I met on LinkedIn. I'm really
hopeful to get him on here he is. He put
his picture of himself on high flow oxygen getting room
de severe, but yet here he is today. He survived.
So I'm so excited. We've tried to connect this past week.
But I want to hear his story. I'd love for
him to speak and talk about it. But there's so
many people like him, like you, like myself, and we're
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all out there, and the more we gain momentum and
learn and share. The one question someone asked about is
you know, do you feel that they're going to try
to plan another plandemic? Absolutely. When you drive fear through
any type of socialized you know, a country and culture,
beer is the greatest thing to shut people down. It
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just decompresses them. And there's so much I know, Gail,
you were just talking about some of the stuff. You
want to mention what they're doing in the schools.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I hadn't heard about.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
That in Illinois, but they're going crazy with indoctrinating.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It's our kids.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Yeah, so I'll do that, And I just want to
one thing on the future pandemic is they're already starting
to raise alarms in Texas about a new strain of COVID,
and at the same time, it's like COVID is Dad,
And I will tell you Doctor David Martin spoke at
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an event that we had in Oklahoma at the Capitol
and at dinner afterwards, he said, we have a very
short period of time to get our PhD in this stuff,
because there are sixty eight pathogens that are patented and
can be deployed at any time and patent by the DoD,
just like this one was. And he said, COVID was
(22:05):
a big test and we failed fear drove what we did,
not only what we did to ourselves, but what we
did to each other. And so we don't have long
And he's been looking at this since the rise and
attacks in two thousand and three in Tokyo. That's how
long he's been involved in following these things and investigating
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as far as the schools. So Saturday's Saturday's Spaces is
going to be a bit focused on these health centers,
these public health centers that they're setting up in the
school system. And so there's a lot of danger there
for these health centers being run by the public education system.
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And it's already rearing its head in Illinois because they
passed legislation to require your third grade and up students
to have a mental health exam. And if if you
don't see where that's going to lead you, just you know,
(23:13):
look at some of the first of all, just from
a big, big harma, big pharma perspective, big arma, You're
you're looking at a lot of kids that are going
to get stuck on drugs, right, Like I mean, everybody
can display a little depression, right or anxiety, especially if
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you're examining kids. So you're gonna you're going to be
looking at You're going to be looking at parents who
are falsely accused of things. You're going to be looking
at kids getting put on these psychotropic drugs. You're going
to be looking at if you listen to any of
the d transitioner kids that can have been testifying, you know,
(23:59):
as to why they thought that they were trans you know,
you you there's a documentary that Epoch Times did and
one of the girls. It simply started with her telling
her school counselor that her brother had an easier time
adapting to high school, and that turned into she wants
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to be a boy. They convinced her it is because
she wants to be a boy, because they worked on her.
This is this is danger danger, danger zone. And then
you go into you know, they're they're going to have
the right to give your kid birth control pills if
you whether you want it or not. Vaccinations. I think
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it was for mont that had the child that was
vaccinated against his parents will with the COVID vaccine. They
took it to court and the court sided with the school.
So that is a problem, right that they could you know, well,
your child said they wanted it, right, and so there's
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you know, you're just going to have all level this
is going to take it to a new level of
psychological grooming of kids.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
It really is, it really is.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
You know, sorry, you know as a mental health professional,
how easy it is to manipulate a kid's mind.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
It is easy. It's scary, and that's why you.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Know, the whole parental structure, you know, we we we
water down the whole parental structure, you know, with kids
having kids, and then you know, who's a good parent,
where's the role models, where's the morals, where's the values,
where's any kind of faith in any of this? And
again not to try to like cram it all into one,
you know, one religion. The idea is when you grow
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up and you're raised to have highness, compassion, a moral compass,
now it's anything goes. And if you don't let your
child try and experience, experiment and do different things, now
the question becomes, why are you not allowing to do this.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Kind of stuff?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
And you know, then they had the transvestites, you know,
reading in the classroom, the kindergarten classroom. It's just been
an indoctrination. And then let's go to didn't earn it
DEI was to be so accepting of everyone and all
and whatever we wanted to do, deviant behavior and all.
And that's not okay. It's just not okay. So as
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get you started to pull it back, they're kicking and
screaming and they're going for our children.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, they're going for the kids for sure. And it's
you know, and there's and and even if if you
think about like how many times they've tried to change
the definition of pedophile, right, things like that to minor
attracted minor attracted persons so that it didn't sound so
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criminal while it is criminal. And at the same time,
They've tried many times to bring the age of consent
for sex to ten years old, pen that has been fought.
I mean, we've had to fight that battle in Texas
even and we you know, we've even had to fight
rules like this was back in two thousand and five
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where I've been involved in the medical freedom fight for
a long time, but where they wanted to make it
a law that said if a school teacher, principal, a
school counselor, or school nurse recommended a child to be
put on psychotropic drugs and the parent didn't do it,
the state shall remove the child. They tried to pass that,
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and so many parents went down and testified. And that's
what parents need to do. They need to get involved,
and they need to be down at their school boards,
down at their They need to be calling their legislators.
They need to be they need to be protesting, they
need to be quite honestly, I'd have my kid out
of school already, Like my grandkids are homeschooled. They're homeschool
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for a reason because this stuff is crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It is crazy, and a lot of people have taken
their kids out of schools, and a lot of parents
are doing that. But you know, again, I think there's
people that are just they're blind to all this. One
person asked, you know, why do so many people turn
a blind eye?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
And you know what is it?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
If a kid refuses?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
You know, this is where parents and children need to
have conversations. Parents need to be involved in hearing what
their kids stressors and concerns are. You know, peer pressure,
and there's all kinds of emotions that go on with kids.
And you know, it's the truth. A lot of times
when I get kids, you know, it's because the parents
just haven't taken some time to listen, or the kids
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haven't developed that relationship with the kids. Sometimes that when
they're in trouble, the child will know to come to
the parent. And we've got to foster that. We've got
to build that strength because kids meet adults to help
a lot of times they can't make some of these decisions.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
They do, and sometimes it does come down to the parents,
like a lot of times. Right, So today we live
in a world where everybody's chasing the almighty dollar and
motherhood has been demonized and you know, oh, you're just
a mother, like you know, so you know, the most
important role in the world and This is done so
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that the state can raise your child, and then you
have the divorce rate that skyrockets, and parents are too
busy fighting each other. Even if they agreed, they would
disagree just because they don't want to agree and co parent,
and they forget that the children are not chattel. They
are actually human beings that you're that you only have
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a short period of time to develop within them what
is within them, and sometimes you do have to put
aside everything for the sake of those kids and teach
them the values. Like I hear sometimes different arguments like, well,
how will they learn how to deal with these situations
if I don't just stick a in there? Well, they're
(30:01):
not prepared sometimes, like social media, we let social media
raise kids, right, we're not even prepared for sometimes the
fights that happen or the meanness that happens on social media.
How is a nine year old or tent You see
a lot more suicide right in kids because of social media,
bullying and different things that they can't handle. And you know,
(30:25):
I know more than one parent who has had a
child kill themselves, who regrets spent you know, they've never
I've never heard anybody say I wish I would have
spent more time at work. It's always I wish I
would have spent more time with my kid, with my
family member, right.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
So true, and we will be talking about that too,
because as you mentioned, like the time of year, it
was like the killing fields from COVID in twenty twenty
one and suicides. I lost several staff to suicide. September
is National suicide Prevention Month, and yeah, you know it's
I Also, when dealing with a lot of adults, I
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can't tell you how hard it is to hear stories
of adults that are thirty, forty, fifty years old that
have had such trauma, neglect and abuse. Some of these
folks now had gone on to have their own children
and proliferate that trauma, neglect and abuse. And so it
is a cycle, and that cycle has not been broken.
The only problem is is now we have more and
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more and more families and children, and we've really got
to get back to just foundations of good parenting, good
relationship building, good morals. And I'm sorry, but I think
you need to bring faith back into the focus.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Oh, you absolutely do. There's an old saying, deal with
your deal with your own demons or they will raise
your children.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, and that's a pretty scary thought. That is a
pretty scary thought.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The one person asked about what's the legal what is
going to be the legal age of consent if they
can say what they want, even if it's against the
parents' wishes. I mean, right now, it's kind of up
in the air because some states are giving kids some voices,
but it's currently eighteen that I know.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, I mean, but they've ignored that and stepped all over, right,
I mean, I think I think the kid that at
the Vermont was like, I think he was only six
or seven years old and the parents student lost. Yeah, Like,
so I know that there're a lot of a lot
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of the kids like that were transitioned. They were just
removed from their parents home at fifteen or sixteen. If
they wouldn't affirm, like so, I they've been giving, they've
been they've been deteriorating that legal age of consent, right, So,
(32:54):
I think I think if you look up, for example,
age of consent for sex in many states, it's fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, right,
So it's all different things, right, medical procedures, Yeah, I mean,
but they'll bully the parents into you know, you don't
want to lose your kid, do you. We'll call CPS
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or we'll call you know what I mean. They bully
the parents into these into psychotropic drugs.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
One well, and you know, here's the psychotropic drugs. Here's
an interesting fact. Now he's an adult, but he was
a minor when his mom suggested he gets some therapy
because he was just really going through some stress, graduating
high school, starting college, YadA, YadA. The psychiatrist, in their
infinite wisdom, just slapped him on with not only heavy medications,
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but very high doses of medications that I know I
would never prescribe. Starting out, well, they're on his record.
And guess what. He comes from a good family. He's
got a very strong ethic. He's played football through high school, college,
but now decided he wants to go into the military.
Guess what I had to re explain why perhaps another
provider made a bad choice seeing a child for one time,
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and now that could have destroyed his career. And it's
those life choices that get me so upset when I
see they make dramatic choices wherever they fall, children, adults,
whatever it is you make these life choices and you
don't realize their repercussions. It's got to get back to
foundational work of one. How about it you mentioned about
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the moms. You know, we demonize moms. How about maybe
some people are just doing too much. I have people
coming to me for stimulants because they work two jobs.
They get tired driving from one job to the next.
They want to live the Jones life and they need
a medication to do that. I'm like, so we're just
going to jack you up. That doesn't make sense to me.
People are over over, over committed, and nobody's really looking
(34:56):
at what's going on, especially to our little people. Kid. Yeah,
you know, I think that's a foundational, a foundational issue
that we're just people aren't looking at.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
You know.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
That's always not to always bring it back to faith,
but it's kind of like Martha, Martha and Mary in
the Bible, right, choose the better thing? Are you going
to choose to be busy? Are you going to choose
to have the devil keep you busy? Or are you
going to choose the better thing? And I would choose.
I was one of those moms that always had to
chase the dream, thinking I was doing it for my family.
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And if I could do life over again, I would
choose the better thing. I would choose less of the
luxuries in life and the career building and the you know,
all of the things I thought were necessary because Cosmopolitan
told me so, you know, like the magazines said I
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should be that kind of a woman. But I would
I would choose the better thing, and I would have
choose to spend more time being a mother because my
I thought my mother, being a stay at home mother,
didn't know what she was talking about, that she chose
that she wasted her life, when really she spent you know,
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sixty eight years in the most beautiful marriage ever ever made,
and she did the most important work, and that was
raising children and taking care of her home and loving
her husband and he loved her, and you know, so
like it was all backwards, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I think people really are chasing something, and what are
you all really chasing? You know, I do want to
give a couple of quick tips and then we're going
to jump right back into this. But you know, again,
preparation we're going to September is going to be you know,
kind of a fast forward to nurturing and healing the
mental side of things. But a lot of you are
probably wondering, like, well, what do we do? How do
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we get off the wheel? How do we like make
this better life that you want. You really have to
pick your priorities, and your priorities should start with when
you wake up every day, find something that you're grateful for.
Start with gratitude. Say you know what, thank God I
got up today and I don't have any aches and pains,
or thank god I got up today and I can
smell the coffee ruin and it smells so good. Thank
God I got up today, and I can smell the
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rain falling outside. Thank God that I got up today.
And I'm just going to try to make one person smile,
because a lot of times when people are hurting, many
folks in our group, the trauma group, they have found
such healing in helping someone else because they can't take
away the pain that they feel. So I talk about
gratitude self care, and we'll talk more in different shows
(37:37):
about what self care looks like. But nurturing all the
things that I teach people to do in trauma, about
breeding and journaling and positive affirmations. I can't stress enough
to folks, how do you start to change the process.
You have to start with nurturing yourself first, to start
filling in the gaps and healing where you need the
(37:57):
most work. And it has to start with you, because
if you can't help you first, you can't help anyone else.
And whether it be you, your spouse, your children, your grandchildren,
take care of you and then you'll be great to
other people. But think about self care. And self care
is very simple. My triangle. I tell people nutrition, sleep,
and movement. I gently call it movement because people, you know,
(38:20):
they hate that word exercise, but your body doesn't know.
If you do jumpin jacks, or if you're on a treadmill,
or if you're walking with you know, soup cans in
your hand. Your body likes movement. It releases great endorphins.
So just a tip for all of you. This is
kind of where Yale and I want you to get to.
But we also want you to know about how to
(38:41):
get connected and how to understand a lot of the
stuff that's going on around you that you may not
be aware of. And you know, the Betrayal Project USA
dot org is a great place to start.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
So Yeah, it really is. You know what I've learned
about smiling. You can confirm whether this is true or not.
Probably that I learned it. It was part of a
Sunday sermon that when you smile at somebody, it triggers
the same effect in their brain as when they smile.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
So, like you can literally affect somebody's emotional state just
by smiling at them. And I love that because I'm
always smiling at people. I'm like, I like this little
kid came up to me one time and said, ma'am.
He said, you look when you smile, you look like
the sunshine just burst out of your face. I was like,
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his mom was like, I'm so sorry. I'm like, no,
that's so. That's like the sweetest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
It's the truth.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
And you know, that's such an important point, Dale because
when you think about the pandemic, we put masks on
everybody and we.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Took away emotion.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I want to share something real quick because it's in
the book. But I wrote this probably around March of
twenty twenty when I was working and we're all like
locking ourselves away and throwing cloth masks on our face.
And it's very quick It goes like this. It says
the eyes beyond the mask. I look at you, but
you do not return the stair. I see you, but
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I seem invisible to you. Do you know what I feel?
Do you know what I'm thinking? Do you know I
had a rough night? Is it possible we'll ever exchange
a word? Have we forgotten the human connection? Would you
know if I needed help? If I did not call out?
I now have eyes without a face. My thoughts are hidden,
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my smile buried. Yet I learned to connect with the
human spirit and compassion. The face is lost, but the
eyes will take you to the soul of someone. If
we cannot smile on the outside, we must connect. Let
it be through our eyes, showing reverence to each other
and all that we do, until one day we can
smile to each other's face. And it's that human emotion.
(40:50):
The smile is so important.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
And laughter.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
They did a study six year old's laugh smile about
two hundred times a day. Yeah, maybe fifteen. And I've
talked to other adults that are like, are you kidding?
I don't even think I smiled once today. Wow, I
have to drive that process, we really.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
Do, man, I smile all the time, even when I'm
even when things are hard, I ye have advises smile
and I'm you know, yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Wow, that's it's very I think the masks are one
of the things that really did I mean, it did
affect mental health so deeply, you know. I just and
just the human connection too that they they ended. You know,
my father was in a nursing home and when and
(41:45):
he he is very much he used to be. He
was very used to being around family and connecting. You know.
Him and my mom were married since from when she
was fifteen, right, so we up until he whe when
there's home and they sat on the love seat and
still held hands and watched TV together. So they yeah,
(42:05):
so they you know, but it it almost killed him
just to be away, just for them to be away
from each other, and her having to go to his
window to look in at him and talk to him.
And the first time they got to see each other,
he had to wear a mask and he was crying.
(42:26):
He just wanted to kiss his wife, right, and he couldn't.
Like it was it was very I still have that
video of him reaching for her and he was in
the hospital and so they let her in and he
was reaching for her, and he was crying, and he
kept having to pull up his mask, and just the
fact that they couldn't smile at each other, touch each other,
(42:49):
Like all of those things affect your mental health. I
don't know about you, but I know for me as
a survivor, the hardest thing was the isolation. The isolation
was out of all of the abuse and everything that
almost killed me until Huckleberry rescued me. It was the isolation.
(43:13):
And I have heard from many survivors where they say,
I feel angry because of the abandonment, even though now
they know they truly weren't abandoned. They that their family
was locked out. It's the isolation was the worst. It
messes with your head, it does, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
And at the hospital I worked at when I was
in ICU, and even on the med Sarch floor, my
husband was in facilities there at the time, and my
CEO threatened him and any other employee you had a
family member, you cross the lines and go see a
family member and you will be terminated.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Wow, And unfortunately you know you do.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
You're like you are like ball and chain because you
need your income, right, we have no ability to do
anything without an income, and so he chose to just
guard and be safe and have other people tell him
how I was doing. But that isolation, Yeah, I mean,
and that's what was So it was maddening, it was
it made me angry, but it was also inspiring. And
(44:14):
I thought, by God, if I get out of here,
and you know we've talked about it, that was my prayer, God,
if you get me out of here, I will make
a difference every day for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
And that's what I had tend to do. That's why
the book came to be.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
It's raw, and you know in there I have stories
about I will never forget the patients. I will never
forget them. You can only help so many people at
a time. It's like when the ship's going down. You
can't save everyone, but you try to save as many
as you can hold in the hands of Nancy. And
I see you, and you know those darn nurses in
the unit, they thought I was there to watch them.
I couldn't even believe it. Like I don't know who
(44:50):
else gets a leader to come into a hospital at
eleven o'clock at night on a Saturday night and stay
a whole shift and just be with one patient. It
made one nurse's life a lot easier. But she's swore
I was watching her. But that one patient, all she
wanted to do was hold hands because she was afraid.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
She was scared, and.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
They wouldn't let her son, you know. And there's other
stories in there like that, and we let people die
alone in an isolation and it did.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Not have to be.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
It was all all make believe. So we have to
be smarter, folks. We've got to be smarter. Gail, myself,
the team, you know, Betrail Project USA dot org. We're
out there. We're out there on X. We want you
to hear, we want you to be involved, share your stories.
We want to help you heal, we want to help
(45:37):
you to know more. We've only got a few seconds left.
But Gail, what else would you like to share before
you Just engage?
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Engage with us, follow us, share our content. It's growing
and growing and growing. Right now, it's not ready for
mobile phones, so you got to use a computer. But
it will be in the next two weeks. It will
be all set for every every type of advice that
you can can use. But I appreciate you all you do.
(46:06):
Patty you too, Gail.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
I mean, look, we would have never got to know
each other if it hadn't been for this tragedy.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
But I'm so grateful, and that's one piece of gratitude
that you can start with.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
It absolutely is. Listen, folks, we're here every Thursday, three pm.
Tune in. It'll be very provocative and riveting, sometimes more
than others, but I hope we were able to share
something that brings reality and life to you. Our children
are our future. You are our future. But you got
to be connected and be plugged in. Tune into us
wherever you can look into Betrayal Project USA dot org.
(46:39):
You'll get a lot of great information. Tune into the
X space this Saturday and you all know how to
reach me. My website's up there. I will see you
all next Thursday. Have a wonderful weekend, and remember speak gratitude.
Start the day grateful and the rest of the day
you'll be smiling all day.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Take care everybody. Have a great one, but
Speaker 3 (47:05):
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