Mental Heath with NAD & Hormone Therapy

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Any health related information on the following show provides general
information only. Content presented on any show by any host
or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
or treatment program.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to everybody joining us today. This
is Wellness and Censor with Patty G. Tayket, yourick nurse practitioner.
I want you all to feel welcome and comfortable. We
are going to be doing a fantastic show today talking
about other alternative ways to really help to balance your health,
help you feel good physically, emotionally, and we're going to
bring on some exciting guests with us today. This show

(00:56):
is primarily out here today for all of you to
really help consider other ways to really get yourself to
be back on track to be healthy. You've got to
explore what's going on with yourself and your life and
in your world before you can really help anybody else.
So it's time for some self care. Turn yourself in,
take a look, see what you got, turn it out,

(01:17):
reach out, and hopefully this will help you to be
a little bit more educated in tune with some things
that you can get involved with that are going to
make you feel great. Some of the stuff we talk
about today when we talk about hormones and health, it's
not just for older folks. Hormone health is really important.
And we're going to be bringing on our special guests
Carlos and Christina Conde from Castle Rock Hormone Health. And

(01:40):
I know we've got Carlos. I think Christine is holding
down the fort, but wanted to welcome Carlos into the
show today and we're going to talk about all things
related to and not just including hormone health.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Hey, good to have you here.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Thank you, Patty, thanks for having us. Great to be back.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, So tell us a little bit about you know,
you guys have and run the clinic Castle Rock for
you're coming up when you're one year anniversary, aren't you.
So tell us a little bit about that journey and
what you've explored, what you've uncovered, and how important it
is for people to optimize themselves and then we'll dive
into some specifics from there.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Fantastic. So a little bit of a backstory. My wife,
Christina and I started this clinic of our success as
patients and our experience was patients and being on hormone treatment.
For me in my mid forties, I started the plateau
physically at the gym. I was a multitasking entrepreneur with

(02:36):
a million things on my plate a growing family, and
just a lot to juggle, and quite frankly, I hit
the wall. I hit the wall, and I was frustrated
because I had high expectations on a daily basis. I
like to perform at a top level, and I just
couldn't get over the hunk. And I spoke with a
good friend of mine who said, if you had your
hormones checked, And at the time I thought that that

(02:57):
was something for female patients, not for me patients, and
so it was a bit eye opening, and I asked
him what you meant exactly. He said, if you had
your testoster it checked, and that had never even blipped
on my radar. Move forward A couple of weeks later,
I went by their clinic, I had my hormones tested.
I was at a critically low level of testosterone. I

(03:18):
was in the high two hundreds. To give you an idea,
normal ranges, even with the MD say a normal range
would be is typically between three hundred and eight hundred.
I was below that three hundred. So through some testosterone therapy,
I was able to regain and optimize my levels, and
quite frankly, it started to reset life in the way

(03:41):
I was accustomed to it being all the way from
more clear cognitive thinking, obviously recovery and results at the gym.
It really helped with my brain fog. I was falling
into a bit of a depression because of all of
those things. And it also increased my libido, which never
hurts up absolutely.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Hey, and you know, you mentioned a couple key points,
and that's kind of why I think, you know, we
all kind of even got together, because brain health is
where a lot of things happen that I see with
patients and some of the symptoms you mentioned, you know,
male and female when they start thinking about brain fog cognition.
I must get twenty or thirty people through my doors
a week that say, oh I have ADHD. Less than

(04:21):
three to four percent of the adult population truly have
ADHD in terms of the classic symptoms, and so much
can be done to really maximize and optimize their health
through hormone therapy. Things like you mentioned, depressive symptoms, anxiety,
all those things, And I would say, it's much better
to be involved in normalizing your hormone balance than it

(04:44):
is to just taking medications to manage a symptom. So
that's kind of why I think it's so important, Carlos
that we talked to folks today, because I'll have people
that they automatically think testosterone, oh.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'm going to bulke up. You don't want to buke up.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Or a woman would say, oh, estrogen ya, that's not safe.
I don't want to have breast cancer. And yet they
won't consider that if their levels are low, and many
of them come to me with the same thing you
just said. I went to my primary here and they said, oh,
my levels are a normal range. But normal range. You
might want to share a little bit. You know, we've
seen patients and I've sent patients over to you. They're

(05:20):
about three hundred, maybe three twenty, but that's low may range. Yeah,
what happens when people come to you and the range
is like I'm low.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
So a lot of the patients come in and first
of all, they're just a bit lost, right, they lost
they've lost their confidence. They're not getting specific advice from
their PCP or from their general doctors, their OEGI in
not because they don't want to help in that arena,
but because they don't specialize in that arena, so they
treat those systems with broad strokes. Well, as you know,

(05:52):
medicine has advanced in such a way and so have
science that now we've really been able to dial in
where those deficiencies are, how they affect the page, and
what we can do to get those people back to
optimize levels of hormone they want. In a clinic, they're
typically fatigued, a decrease libido for females, hot flashes and
night sweats and irregular periods, skin changes, and they just

(06:17):
feel off and they go to the doctor and the
doctor tells them, well, everything looks normal. Let's be clear.
As a patient, you know when you feel good, and
you know when you feel normal or not normal. And
so they come in and what we like to start with, Patty,
and I know that you're a big advocate of this
as well, is data, and so we try to gather
as much data as possible by doing a robust a

(06:38):
lab form try to find out everything that's going on
with them from liver function, the kidney function, red blood cell,
white blood cell, testosterone free testosterone, sex hormone, all of
these data points to give us the opportunity to really
see where they need to help. What we're finding is

(06:58):
is that more and more low testosterone seems to be
a bit of an epidemic. And where we're seeing it
more and more prevalent is in two spaces with our
female patients. Our female patients that a lot of them
without testosterone is only for men. They didn't realize that
they carry five times more testosterone then they do estrogen

(07:19):
on a regular basis before menopause. So it's a big
surprise for them the effect that testosterone can have for
our female patients. The other is we are seeing an
increasing number of young patients walk through that door, young
patients in their late twenties and early thirties with just
critically low testosterone levels, and so they walk in there

(07:43):
feeling off. They think, at their age, they shouldn't be
suffering from these symptoms, they shouldn't have one of these diagnoses.
But sure, we do the blood tests, we get the
data back, and we're seeing those deficiencies in a much
younger patient base and we're trying to face and that's
increasingly too.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
That's incredible, and you're right.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
You know, I think I've noticed over the years, you know,
especially the last five years, people were more sedentary. Diets
have changed. You see how they've manipulated some of our
food sources, you know, straight down to the egg and
all those things considered. You know, I don't think our
younger population of patients, or you know, even the folks
here that tune into our show realized that, you know,

(08:26):
in those early years twenties and thirties, you really need
to get your hormone levels checked because if you're not balanced,
a young man who should normally be athletic and you know,
active and feeling good have virulency, is actually just low
on testosterone and possibly high on estrogen.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I think that was one of the points we talked
about just before the show. And you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Really important for people to kind of see where they
are today so they can feel their best without having
to rely on medication.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Agreed. And so this isn't a medical term, but one
of my patients came in any talk to me and
use this term, and it really resonated with me, and
so now I use it with everybody else. That the
things that we really see across the board with low
testosterone excuse me, your hormone and balances is the loss
of want to Now. Want to is not a medical term,

(09:16):
but one is the thing that affects us a lot
in our lives. The want to work an extra hour right,
the want to to get up earlier and go to
the gym, the want to to make it to the
kids' sports games, or initiate intimacy with our partner. And
it's not a drastic change, it's just that one little
second of decision making. And what we're finding is when
we optimize patient's hormone levels that we're seeing a much

(09:40):
better result, a much better engagement in their day to
day life and activities and the return of that wants to.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
And it's pretty easy to do, I know, just from
what we've talked about with patients as well. You know,
some of the replacement therapy can be done through the
little sublingual trocies trustos, usually an injection and tell us,
why do you do the injection like testosterone twice a
week for more optimal balance?

Speaker 4 (10:04):
That is a fantastic question. So what a lot of
people will see is that there's options in the hormone
replacement market, right, and so it starts with pellet injections
is one. So some people pellet injections, other clinics do
a weekly testosphone injection intermuscular. We choose to do microdosing

(10:25):
in a subcutaneous injection treatment. And the reason that we
choose to do that is because as we introduce testosterone
into the patient's body, we always see elevation in the level,
and so we'll also see as the days go by
in a week period of time, we'll see the levels

(10:45):
start to drop and diminish a little bit, and so
their range. Let's say that we got them to a
one thousand level and their range on the day of
treatment go up to one thousand. If by the time
it's time for them to treat against seven days later,
they may be done to eight point fifty, and so
there's a bigger fluctuation. Micro we're able to ensure to

(11:07):
keep those patients within one hundred point window for the
males and a twenty five point window for the females,
which really gives you the optimization and the zone where
they're feeling their best at all times. You know, those ebbs,
lows and peaks and valleys are hard to deal with
sometimes because you feel great some days and not so
good other days. And I think that's one of the

(11:28):
real concerns with the pellet treatments that we're seeing Patty,
which is it's the easiest. You don't have to do injections,
you just have plant, and so everybody says, this is it,
this is the one size, fix all solution. And what
we're seeing with those patients is a elevated testosterone level
initially in the week or two after the pelots are implanted,

(11:49):
and then as the pellets are dissolving, we see the
levels just diminishing a little bit at a time. The
problem is when we get to two or to week
ten of that implant, their levels are lower and we're
unable to treat until those pellets have fully dissolved. So
these patients are on a roller coaster and they're treating

(12:09):
ease of use, or what they consider to be ease
of use, or for the results that they're really looking for.
And so for us, we really want to optimize our patients.
We want to give them every competitive advantage to succeed.
We want them feeling well, and for patients feel well,
you've got to dial them into that particular zone. And
in this case, two injections, two treatment injections subcutaneous, smallest

(12:34):
little needle there is insulin needle in our patients, the
most consistent result throughout a week's period of time.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, no, I think that's fantastic. And you know the
stuff I've seen with the pellets. Unfortunately, people may not realize.
You know, a lot of times those pellets either they
don't dissolve completely. Sometimes they actually seek or ooze back out.
The body rejects them. And then if you are physically active,
especially if you're someone who works out or you work
out a lot, they eat up the testosterone so much

(13:04):
faster that you have to either get more frequent pellets
where they don't get their levels managed and just like
you said, they dip down and they don't know why,
Oh it's not working. So this is the most timely,
least invasive, very quick, painless, and I don't know any
questions that people come your way that you can share
that to make them feel comfortable, especially like the women

(13:25):
with the thoughts of using you know, testosterone or estrogen
things like that, because we're balancing it to their own
natural level that they have in their bloodstream already.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
I think you just snailed. You just sailed. It's that
it's not the first show, is it, Patty. You know,
I think people need to understand that hormone replacement therapy
is not meant to turn you into ormal schools maabor
not meant for you to become a competitive bodybuilder. It's

(13:55):
really meant to give your body all of those advantages
that you naturally had since the beginning it. So what
we're trying to do is give you all of the
functions at the highest level that you start to lose
over time. And so when you can give your ability
to function at a certain level, when you can give
all of your problems, when you can give all your symptoms,

(14:16):
when you can give that brain fog, when you can
get the low energy, when you can find a solution
that isn't extreme, then I think worth really looking into.
And I think one of the approaches that's important with
hormone therapy is that if you're a clinic that's doing it,
and I'm not saying others do it the wrong way,
we're doing it at a very high level. They're going
to try to introduce the least amount of medicines into

(14:41):
your protocols and regiments as possible, because the goal is
to get you on medicine. The goal is to get
you feeling your very best, and so we do that incrementally.
We start to make small levels of testosterone for our women,
estrogen and progesterone if those are needed as well, but
we start to introduce it at a small level and

(15:02):
then slowly climb until we're able to get you to
those levels without overburdening the body with all of these
new medicines and these week protocols. So I think that's
one of the real differences.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, No, I think it's important.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
And everybody that I've shared this with, you know, I've
had people here locally come to see you guys as well,
and they're all getting really fantastic results. You guys actually
can reach anybody really across the country. So I want
to make sure we get a chance to share with
people too. Do you want to share how easy it
is for them to get in touch with you, either
by the website or your phone number.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Or thank you so very much, our phone number very
easy to remember. Eight three three four tests that's eight
three three fo R test. We service patients throughout the
United States, our particular clinic primarily in Florida, although we
do have some patients in other states. We're part of
the national franchise, and between the franchise we cover all

(15:55):
fifty states, and so our website is see our ha
h STA dot com. And we're happy to help answer questions,
help educate. I think a big part of this process,
and you do a very good job of this two
is education. Right when something new like hormone health or
the new era of hormone health, let's say, comes into play,

(16:20):
people have questions. And now we'll live in a place
that you can google anything or weatherm do to everything.
You're going to find data to support almost any stance
that you take, whether you're pro HTR or anti HTR,
whether you're pro tibe or anti pet tide. So what
I think the most important thing is have information, dissiminate

(16:40):
that information, and make the best decision for yourself as
a patient. And so what we're really focused on, I
know is something that you work hard to do as well,
is how do we get the message out there? How
do we taboo of hormone health, how do we break
the taboo of mental health. How do we break the
taboo of speaking about these things that have a real
effect on quality of life day to day. And so,

(17:03):
whether it be a young man walking in the door
at his late twenties that just doesn't have that raw
that he thinks he should have, or whether he be
a middle aged female that comes in it's in perimenopause
and all of a sudden everything feels off. I think
it starts with education. It starts with education. It starts
with them understanding why they're feeling that way, and then

(17:23):
it goes to the data that we talked about, right,
so educating them on why they're probably feeling this way,
what some of the areas could be, but then gathering
the data, putting those two things together and helping them
decide on their own best sealth journey. So I think
that again, education is really what it's about. And I
encourage all of your listeners and watchers if they're not

(17:45):
feeling their best, if they feel a little bit off,
look into it. Invest in yourself a little bit, get
the information, read about it a little bit, and come
with the hard questions. Whether it's a therapist, whether it's
a hormone clinic, whether it's your piece, educate yourself, ask
the partner to make sure you're satisfied with the answers
that you're doing, and then they.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Do, Yeah, No, that's perfect, That makes perfect sense. And
I think people find you know, not just you guys,
but you know, in terms of getting this type of treatment.
I know you both are very approachable, very you know,
full of knowledge and information. It's a welcoming environment, which
really makes it easy. Another reason why I reach out
to you guys too, is because I've spent a long
amount of time working with patients that have had from

(18:27):
post COVID syndrome, you know, long haulers and people Even
before COVID, there was this development of a long haul
type syndrome with respiratory inflammation and blood pressure, you know,
erratic blood pressure, you know, ups and downs and things
like that, chronic fatigue. And I was so excited when
you guys started offering an a d maybe share a

(18:49):
little bit about what happened with your son and how
he had the results.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
That you brought it up.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
That's the first thing that came to my our son
incredible human being, an academic miracle, just way smarter than
most children. In his age, just graduated University of Florida,
but two years ago came out with COVID, And he
had had COVID before and got through that fairly easy.

(19:16):
But the second time that he got COVID, it was different,
and it hit him different and just wasn't getting better.
And eight months later and twelve months later, he would
call home and he'd say, Mom, Dad, something's wrong. I'm
not retaining information the same way that I'm used to.
I'm not multitasking the way that I used to. My
projects are more difficult. I don't have energy when I

(19:40):
go try to play basketball with my friends, I can't
as long. You know, I don't have the salmona that
I was used to having. And we tried so many
different treatments. Along that path, we met this lady by
the name of Patty Gen who introduced us to the
idea of glued on in NAD treatments and the same

(20:03):
way that I recommended for listeners and watchers. I started
to read up on it, started to see what some
of the benefits of introducing these treatments that help with
the free radicals and that help get you on the
better side of the long Hauler's syndrome symptoms, and so
we started introducing NAD treatments for our son. A glue

(20:27):
fact pushes of our son and very happy to share
with you that over the last eight to ten months,
incremental change for the better. Incremental change for the better.
And now almost a year later, he says he's feeling
about ninety percent. And so there are treatments like an
NAD peptide. We're starting to hear about it now because

(20:49):
it was on the Kardashians of offits patty.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
It must be so, it must be so.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
It must be a thing, right, And so is a peptide.
It's a co enzyme that's found in all living cells
and it's essential in the creation of energy, and it's
also essential in the regenerating DNA and strengthening DNA. And
what we've seen is it really does increase cognitive thinking,

(21:20):
It lowers inflammation, it helps reduce stress. And I myself
have been using NAD for the last three months. And
to tell you what it's done for me, there's one
adjective that I share with people and they laugh a
little bit, but I think it's a good explanation. NAV
returns your thought processing to precede. Everything's a little more viitted.

(21:46):
You're sharp again, you're processing faster, you're sleeping better, you're
not carrying as many oxidants in your body or free
radicals in your body. So it's been absolutely fantastic, not
only for our sun with long COVID and this incremental
treatments and change, but just as a whole and restoring
cognitive thinking and overall function.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, I mean I don't go a day without having
either my anydiv I usually try to do those once
or twice a month. The injections are phenomenal, and what
you guys offer is really great because you can ship
these things to people and they can just do these
in their home. They don't have to come in and
be treated in your clinic.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Correct, correct, absolutely correct, And we want patients to have options.
You know, we live in a world where everyone needs options.
Everything is instant these days. Our schedules are more packed
than ever. Nobody can appreciate that more than you or I,
and trying to make everything fit in our active lifestyles
can be a challenge. So for us, it's real benefit

(22:47):
to patients that we can treat them in the clinic obviously,
but then we can also send their treatments to their
homes and they can self treat under our guidance obviously,
But it's important to be able to to be a
part of people's lives and not an interruption into people's
lives because but at the most part, they're coming to
us because they're want their life back. Able to give

(23:08):
them that.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, no, And glucathion is amazing as well. I mean
that's the body's natural detox or our body produces it.
And you know, just a quick tip for people out there.
You know, people are always quick to go for pain
releaders using thil andol. Every time you use thilinol, you
turn off your gluc withthion for about twenty four hours,
and so you're turning off the body's master detoxifiers. So

(23:30):
gluc with ion did Carlos and Christina have to offer
to folks. You know, it's just a natural way to
enhance what you already have or may not be pushing
enough of to really keep your body at its optimum
performance and really clean it out. Like you mentioned, the
free radicals. All the things come in our way in
our environment and in our life today. The food getting

(23:51):
out some of the not just the process piece, but
some of the preservative piece. The scions are a master
detoxifier and you guys have that as well.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Microplastics are also a big part of the diet problem now, right.
You know, diet used to be the solution. I remember
fifteen years ago that how do you get better, how
do you know your cholesterol, how do you improve your thinking,
how do you get your energy levels up? Help the libido?
It was all diet oriented, right, and now wing is
a diet is one of the problems, is one of

(24:20):
the things that's instigating all of these patients having to
come in. Specifically going back to the younger patients again,
those that living now, those that are eating through the
drive through two days, two times a day, those that
are the prepared that aren't natural foods, And so it's
just important that everyone understand that with some of the

(24:42):
new challenges of the modern world that we live in,
of the diets that may not be as nutritionally based
as we would like them to be, that there's other
things that we can do to help with that, and
so any who define on they can all be excellent
ways to help battle some of those setbacks. That we
may accounter through diet, through just the natural aging process.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, no, I think it's phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
And you know a lot of times too of folks
that have listened to you know, to myself, to some
of the other speakers that we've had. I know you
guys were on a little while back as well. But
you know, people come in oftentimes they're completely drained, you know,
they don't feel good, but yet they really haven't taken
the steps to look at nutrition, to look at exercise,
to look at what sleep looks looks like, and if

(25:28):
you can jump start them with giving them a boost
to really start to optimize, you know, through the use
of you know, peptides or hormone treatment. It's going to
be that what was the term you used, the not
the why, but the want to want to. It's help
that want to and who doesn't have a want to
write like well I want to, but I want to,

(25:50):
but well I want to and there's always the pause.
We want to get rid of the pause. You want
to want to go see Carlos and Christine. That's that's
kind of how it is. Tell us a little bit
more because you do have some of the more what
I would call revolutionary and controversial things that I think
can really benefit people too. With some of the semi
blue Tide, retroblue Tide and all that good stuff.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Well, I think it all ties into what you were
just saying. So I'm going to pigback that we want,
or people expect these days, everything to happen fast. Right,
Information happens fast, and so everywhere we have access to
everything fast, So it's natural that we want things to
happen quickly, maybe more than they would happen in a
natural setting. Medically guided weight loss, like any of the

(26:33):
GLP products, we want to lose weight. It's hard to
lose weight. It takes discipline to lose weight. If you
could just give them that little bit of extra at
the beginning so that they can accelerate that weight loss initially,
I think you really start to see their motivation ticket
rights oriented. So the same as people on hormones. When

(26:54):
you see that young man that's not getting the results
at the gym, or when you see that person in
their early fifties with myself that weren't getting those same
results at the gym, or we're unengaged in their lives
at home with their children, or with their spouse or
their partner, their significant other. I think getting that Joe
start it's really important because it builds confidence the same

(27:15):
way that you start to lose confidence when you get
these deficits. Whether you're talking about which create depression, that
would create anxiety and create mood instability. I think it's
with the help, with medical help and medically guided help.
Whether it's a symagnetype for weight loss, whether it's a
testosteroneestrogen or progesterone, or whether it's a peptide therapy. There

(27:38):
are a lot of ways to accelerate the results that
you want and to really give you that boost of
confidence that you can achieve and get your walk to back.
And so through that process, I think it's important that
everyone knows we love to help at our clinic. We're
happy to answer questions, we're happy to take on a
new patience. However, it's more important if you just look

(28:01):
into it as a whole, and if it's not our clinic,
then it's another clinic that you go to where you
feel comfortable and where you see that the health is
available because it's real now and science has changed, and
then the research behind a lot of these treatments has changed,
and so now we're starting to see the correlations between
mental health and hormone We're starting to see the correlation

(28:23):
between diet and horrmone health. We're starting to see the
correlation between not only diet, but diet exercise, and whatever
other deficiencies you may have in weight loss. And so
now it's not just a one lane vertical. Now I
think all of us are kind of pushing collectively in
the same direction to get one proactive health. Again, I

(28:45):
think it's really important that accountability takes its part in this,
and I think that if you can make people understand
that you can be in control of a lot of
these things, and it doesn't always have to be being
at the gym for three hours, it doesn't always have
to be running a marathon every weekend. There's ways to
get your jump started, and there's ways to get you

(29:05):
going so where you might want to go to the
gym more, where you might want to go to the
kid's game that weekend, where you may want to get
that extra hour of work and make it a little
bit more income. And so I think it's really nice
to see all of the different avenues of health take
a proactive shift and say, hey, you don't have to
wait until you feel terrible to help. If you're going

(29:28):
to spend X amount of dollars on your health, do
you want to send those dollars and making sure every
day is a good day and you get the most
out of every day, or do you want to send
those dollars after you've tanked out, gotten chronically ill or
one of those things and trying to fix yourself to
get back up. Well, nine out of ten people are
going to tell you I'd rather spend and invest into

(29:49):
feeling great and some proactive shift that. Collectively, as healthcare providers,
we've all kind of attached our labs to.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
It's I can't get people to understand quick enough or
well enough the idea that you know, we do have
ranges for some things. And when they go to a provider,
usually a multi specialty provider, I kind of call them
the jack of all trades, master of none, and why
it's so important that they go to some place like
what you guys have to offer. You've got medically trained professionals,

(30:22):
But when they go to a OBI or a family practitioner,
while they can provide guidance and certainly help get you
on your way. There is no money in hormone therapy
in the regards of keeping someone well. They want to
keep someone having a reason to come back. With hormone therapy,
you know, we balance people, we keep them well. And

(30:43):
so with the ranges, that's kind of what I always
go back to people when I tell them to come
see you guys, if you're off the scale or if
you're at the bottom of the scale, you know, it
doesn't mean that you're optimized. And so a primary care
isn't going to push to say, well, yeah, let's just
get you a little bit of a you know, a
test job boost, or maybe we'll get you some peptides
so you're feeling better. They're going to say, well, you know,

(31:05):
everything looks good. Just go home and eat right, maybe
take some walks. They're not in the model to help
people be well. They're in the model to keep them
coming back. And so people will often ask me, you know, well,
you know, is it covered by insurance? And sometimes I
just want to say and I guess I can say
it here because I can say anything I want. I

(31:26):
want to say, you know what you get what you
pay for. Look at me look at you. I'm optimized,
you're not. Do you want to look like this? You know,
I'm pretty good for my age, and so I'm willing
to spend the money. Now people will say, but I
don't have that kind of money, And then my other
point to them is listen for the money that you're
going to spend meeting your deductible. Many insurance programs will

(31:49):
let you turn something in for re reimbursement if you
can do that. The others offer HSA cards, and I
just think it's so important that you get what you
pay for in the long run. Like you said, I'd
rather not end up with diabetes. If it's going to
cost me a couple hundred dollars every few months and
I'm going to feel great. I'm not going to need

(32:09):
to go get myself some insulin. Get on the medical model.
It's priceless. It's priceless, and it's not.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
How much it's going to cost you monetarily. What's it
going to cost you in the day's miss what's it
going to cost you when you couldn't go to the
kids football game? What's it going to cost you when
you just don't have the energy to go on a
walk on the beach with your wife. And so I
mean the cost far exceed monetary costs. And so when
we're talking about costs, and I'm glad we're addressing this now. Yeah,

(32:37):
I think it's important to you can look at it
as a cost, or you can look at it as
an investment. And I think that that we happen to
look at it as an investment. We look at an
investment for ourselves because first and foremost I am a
hormone replacement patient. But we also look at it from
a clinic ownership perspective as well. And it's important to

(32:58):
identify and as and have these conversations with patients or
anyone who's interested in these types of therapies and treatments
to understand you're investing in yourself. And the same way,
the amount of money that you put into your four
oh one K, the amount of effort that you put
into the investments that you make outside of that four
oh one K is what you get as a return
of investment. Absolutely, personal health, whether it's the gym, whether

(33:23):
it's nutrition, and oh I can't go to Whole Foods.
It's just that much more expensive. Well, there's another option.
You can go to the farmer's market, or you can
go to these other places. There's always an alternative, there's
always a fix that they have their head around investing
in their own results, in their own best life. And
so we can call it a cost. I call it

(33:45):
paying for that ticket to live my best life.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
If that's what a cost, make me feel as good
as I do. You know, we chat sometimes offline. You know,
I did a nine K last weekend. I did a
fifteen K a few months ago.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
You work as many hours as I do.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I start at seven am yesterday, went till ten thirty
last night. Today we started way early in the morning,
and we're going to be going and going and going.
You know, you can't do all this and not have
some level of health and wellness. And I tell you what,
I couldn't attribute it to anything else other than the
things that I put into my body. And likewise, you know,

(34:19):
for you and Christina, so we are living, breathing examples
of when you put the best in your body, you're
going to get the best results.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
As you said, as we do talk pretty frequently. I
don't think your listeners or viewers have any idea of
how athletic you are, and so about running your five
k's and nine ks. We'll tell them what your miles
will be and run at because it'll be embarrassing for
all of us, and we will this much, absolutely practice

(34:47):
what you preached. That's one of the things I admire
about you, this advice that you're giving to all of us.
This conversation that we're having right now is a conversation
that you and I have as peers all the time.
But it's a conversation I see you consistently having with
your peer group. So it's not a hey, join my podcast,
I'm going to talk about some stuff. It's a let

(35:09):
me talk to you about what's working in my life
and what we are seeing collectively across a patient base
of val patients, and so a lot of these conversations
are really important because patients or perspective patients may never
have had this thought process, may have never had the
base information to further investigate for themselves. But the data

(35:31):
is there. The information if you just want to learn
about some of these different options are there. But equally
as importantly so other results and hopefully individuals like you
and I can serve as examples of what it is
to live a proactively healthy lifestyle. I'm in my early fifties.

(35:51):
I still can run around with my twenty five year
old athlete boys. We still live actively, go to the
gym together, do all of the those things. And I
know people my age, they quite frankly can't and simpically
break my heart to not be able to get the
most out of these so important years with my family,

(36:12):
in my career and personally, and so it's been a
total life changer. Again, I think it's important that people
know we live this. We're not just.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Preaching a man. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
You know a couple of folks who are asking and
I think you're asking for the technical term NED. It's
nicotinamide adamin di nucleotide. That's the long word for the
peptide for what we call NAD. So I know somebody
out there was asking about NAD and it's naturally occurring.
Our body makes less and less of it as they

(36:46):
get over and so we can jump start it. The oh, lucathion.
I mean, I don't know if you want to jump in,
but glucathion. Yeah, that's exactly what Carlos and I were
speaking about.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yeah, I think he's essential in a sense says a
key neuro transmitters like serotonin and dopamine. It's so it's
important to know that NAD supports a lot of those
functions and as our body wears, as we age, or
if we're abusing our bodies, So let's talk about that
as well. You know, NAD has been fantastic in some

(37:18):
recovery programs as well, And so for those people who
have some challenges who can't get over the hook, nadmail
is something that they can look into to help them
kind of reset things internally and start to gain a
different advantage on their recovery and repair.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, you know, and I've shared folks, kind of the
whole inception of this show. But after recovering from COVID
and getting back on the track and kind of going
down through the psychiatric pathway in life, the NAD was
one of the foundational molecules that I used to be
able to get off oxygen and to be able to
retrain and repair my body and going from you healthy

(37:56):
to very sick, very debilitated, and now back, I'm probably
better now than I was before I had COVID in
many ways. So NAD is exceptional and anybody who doesn't
really understand it really needs to spend some time looking
at how they can best benefit. There's ways to get it.
You can get it, you know, capsule, and you can
get it with some injections, but the injection way and

(38:17):
IVY the wonderful ways to really get a powerhouse of
nutrients in and while it's rapidly used up. That's why
what Carlos and Christina offer with thenad injections, you can
do them more frequently, you can do them in the
comfort of your home. It's absorbed quickly and it's just
like an ATP powerhouse, you know, in your body. There
was one last question that I saw on the screen

(38:38):
for about magnesium steerrate and what's interesting and it brings
up a really important point about inflammation.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Magnesium steerrate.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
It's often used to create a way to cleanse the
bowel or to get the vowels moving if they're constipated,
and if any of you've ever experienced it, you know
it definitely does the trick. But when you use magnesium steerrate,
it in intensely inflames your mucosa, and so many people
don't realize that part of why they feel sluggish, tired,

(39:07):
just uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Bloated, irritable.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
All those dooom gloom kind of feelings that are more
physical or physiological is because your body could be reacting
with an inflammatory process, and that's really where your problem lies.
And if you can calm down the inflammation and heal
the inflammation and get your body to not be so inflamed,
you're going to be really feeling much better on the
road to recovery. And then when you start putting additional

(39:33):
things in like the NAD and the glucathion and you
do some hormone therapy, that inflammatory process will be calmed
down and you're going to feel so much better. People
do sometimes use magnesium supplements, but it's usually like a
magnesium glcinator, magnesium citrate. Those magnesiums are used more for

(39:54):
relaxation and calming. But the one that we have up
on the screen with a magnesium stery does generate a
lot of inflammation and because it's trying to clean out
something that's there, so it creates an irritability, and inflammation
is an irritable response to the body not liking what
it's got in there. So what Carlos and I have

(40:14):
been talking with you guys about today are really ways
to just heal and energize and to calm different areas
of the body and the brain so that you feel
and optimize optimize yourself.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
But yeah, great stuff.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
So, Patty, I like to use the example of our
cars in the way that we treat our cars, right, Oh, yeah,
we're fanatical about our cars. We make sure that the
tire pressure is an X amount, and we change the
oil every three thousand miles, and we use a high
optane because it says only use a maybe three plus optane,
and then the trans fluid and all these different parts,

(40:52):
and we do that so that it can perform the best.
Why do you not want to do that for yourself?
Why would you not want to do that for your body?
I really believe the body is a miracle waiting to happen.
And if you can give your body the support that
it needs, if you can get your levels where they
should be, where they're supposed to be, for you to

(41:12):
perform at the very best, no matter what that is.
And it's important that you realize this. I came out
of the world of tech, cybersecurity and tech many years.
It's equally is important if you're sitting behind the desk
and you're analyzing data as it is working outdoor labor,
physical job, and so the benefit is don't lock you

(41:33):
into a certain pole. There's benefits for everybody, no matter
what type of lifestyle, no matter what type of career,
whether you're a thinker or whether you're a professional doers.
Ways to maximize your results by giving your body back,
not more, but giving your body back all of the
things needed to perform when it has it. It's very best.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Absolutely, And you know, I forgot to earlier in the show,
and it's kind of one of the reasons why I
wanted to try to highlight a lot of really good
things to do for your body this month. But it
is May is Mental Health Awareness month, and I think
everybody needs to do a self check, right And maybe
you don't have the typical classical symptoms of anxiety depression PTSD,

(42:20):
or maybe you don't think you do, and maybe there's
things you haven't considered. But inflammation has a phenomenal way
of kind of getting into the weeds of all that
we do. And like Carlos you just mentioned, when you're
not thinking clearly, when you're stressed at your job. You know,
a lot of this can come from the way we eat,

(42:41):
or the or the lack of their eating anything good.
I have so many people that do not put anything
in their body before noon. And so if you're not
getting enough fuel, like you mentioned about the car, I've
got it. People the same thing. I go your motherboard,
your brains, your motherboard, and then you start connecting. But
it's May as National Mental Health Awareness Month, and it's

(43:02):
so important to know that you have got to fuel
your body, and if you're not fueling correctly, take a
you know, take a chance and start thinking about things
that you could be doing to be healthier. And one
of the things is really let's look at your labs,
let's look at your hormones, let's look at your you know,
where you are with the use of glucathion and NED
some of the other peptides. I don't think we've really

(43:23):
touched on all those yet, but some of the other
peptides can really jumpstart you to get you going and
get you feel your best. And it helps with decreasing
QUARTERSOL levels because when you have a higher QUARTERSOL level,
the body does tend to hold on to the things
that we usually most want to get rid of, especially
in the weight department, and it's just so important to
get those quarters all levels low and to really help

(43:45):
to optimize yourself. So I think in many ways you
guys have a one stop shot focus on the whole
total person, total being, and you know, think about those things,
especially because a lot of times I say to folks,
each month is another month that you can work on
something to optimize, being that it's mental health awareness month.
Let's focus on the brain. Let's focus on healing and health,

(44:09):
de inflammation and really feeling good to feel your best,
you know, your best self. What other stuff did we
want to mention some of the stuff about the weightless
products that you guys have as well.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Sure, so we have the whole spectrum of the GLP products,
some magnetide kids at the Tide and read through Tide.
What I would tell you is that glps can be
an absolute blessing for people that are trying to get
over the home. They at one stop solution. They are
a big boost on the way to obtaining your goal.
And so what I tell you is if you're trying

(44:41):
to get if you're falling depressed, because you get the
weight off or you're not performing with this, if you're
carrying stress because of those things as well, they start
to accumulate together, right, and it starts to get worse
and worse and worse. And so sometimes what you need
is that springboard to break you out of that situation
that you're in, that mental funk, because that mental funk

(45:04):
contributes just as much to your results as some of
the physical things, right and some of the levels. And
so what I would tell you from my personal experience
is when I knew that I needed to change something,
the first time that I got my levels checked, I
was under so much stress and I was battling depression.

(45:24):
And I was battling depression because I just didn't understand
what was happening with my body. And so get a
little bit depressed, you start to lose your confidence, right,
it starts to create more stress, and those all just
kind of balloon into one big problem. What I'll tell
you is that whether it's hormones, whether it's any of

(45:46):
the GLP weight losses, whether it's PEP time therapy, it
is unbelievable in your field. I'm sure you can talk
about this for a long time. It's amazing what the
slightest bit of hope us for patients, it's amazing with
the slightest bit of confidence and seeing results does in

(46:07):
instigating and igniting that fueling that fire within the patient
to find them the best selves again. So what I
would tell everybody listening and watch you today is simply
that hope matters and us and depression can lead you
down some really dark pathways. So if there's something that
can break that, if there's something that can help you

(46:28):
accelerate your way out of that, that can help you
see a little bit of light in the darkness and
help you reach your goals and find that bells self again,
you should look into it. Right And so I think
the conversation we're having today is really about options. It's
really about taking control of your own life. It's really
about understanding that a lot of these things that you

(46:50):
may be feeling or experiencing are more normal than you
may think they are, or that we would like them
to be. But the important part is that there's hope,
there's solutions, there's science, there's medicine, whish research to support
all of the things that you and I are talking
about today. And although we only have a little bit
of time to share with the viewers. It's just important

(47:12):
that they understand it's the truth because we've lived it.
And so again, as a patient and a clinic owner,
I can tell you from my personal experience, the most
rewarding part is seeing a glimmer of hope in our patients. Again,
So if you're feeling hopeless, and I know with your
patients as well, when you see a glimmer of hope

(47:34):
in that paper, when you see that first ten pounds
of weight loss, or when you see them come in
and their body in deex has changed and they've added
lean muscle and they've dropped visceral fat, or when they're
getting a full night's sleep, or when they're taking walks
with their wife again, or making it to the kids'
games again, or working those extra hours and making that

(47:54):
extra money, that tiny bit of hope from some of
these solutions that we're thing about today, and so it's
important that everybody know out there and that's very real.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah, I well said.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I couldn't have even said it better. I love the
idea of hope. We have one last question. We're gonna
have to close it out for today, but the question
was about silica and what does it do silica? You know,
it's kind of a controversial thing. Generally, silica is used
to help repair with collagen if you've got like brittle

(48:27):
nails or teeth and gum issues. Silica can be a
very useful supplement to use. Not something that we generally
talk about here too much, but maybe on the next
show we'll talk a little bit more about it. It
is helpful in ways to repair, you know, the cartilage
and tissues. But silica is definitely something that our body needs,

(48:50):
and there's different forms to be able to get it all.
But I did want to just take a few minutes
and say thanks so much for joining us on the
show today, Carlos Castle Rock Hormone Health. It's just an
amazing place. Tell us one more time. What's the best
way for people to reach you? All right?

Speaker 4 (49:04):
You can call us eight three three four tests that's
eight three three f O R T S. Or you
can find us on our website c H c R
H h's SCA dot com. And I would like to
just tell everybody something that you tell me all the time.
Self care important. Take the time to care about yourself.

(49:25):
If your glass is overflowing, because you're full. Now you
have enough to give everybody else that needs from you.
So take that moment, give yourself a second ad grace
and in the words of Patty Gen practice.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
So aimen to that well. With closing up the show,
I just want to say thanks to everybody.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
We're going to have an amazing guest on next week
since it is Mental Health Awareness Month. We are going
to have a survivor who actually tragically lost a brother
during the pandemic in some of the hospital protocol problems
that went on that we've talked about over the past
few seasons. So look forward to seeing Ellie with with
her story. She's going to share a wonderful but yet

(50:03):
very sad story, but we want to expose and offer
information to people. I'm so excited to have folks like
Carlos and Christina on who help us drive health and wellness.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Myself, I'm Patty G.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I am headed off to Orange Theory right now for
self care because I didn't get it in this morning,
so I'm.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Going to run.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Everybody, have a great weekend, Love you all from Wellness
and Censored and we'll see you next Thursday at three pm.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Have a great night, win the day,