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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hey folks, welcome back. We are here live with another
episode of Wellness and Censored. My name's Patty G. I'm
here to take you through another journey of uncensored truth
and just to kind of share a background if you're
new tuning in, I think it's important to know we
are now in our third season and it's been such
a season for this, how about it three years, but
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I've got five years in going of a story that
we're still uncovering things from the pandemic, and today would
not be without remiss to share that there's still people
out there that haven't heard other stories and what I
think is fascinating and we're going to be bringing to
you in another show. I don't want to take away
from our guest today, but you know, I'm really happy
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how some of the tables are turning in the medical
health care care model with RFK and the announcement of
the TAIL and all issue. I want to just put
a little bug in your ear. Consider this, for those
of us that were withheld during the pandemic, and we
couldn't really share our stories, We couldn't get help to
the people that we knew and loved. We asked for
life saving potential medications, the right to try. We were
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denied ivermectin at pennies on the dollar, internationally known Nobel
Peace Prize, nominated for its healing properties, and it was
stripped from us under our eyes. Well, today let's turn
the tables. We've now removed thailanol, one of the most
common drug across the world. It's known for therapeutic benefits
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to help us with pain, and now that's been pulled
out from under the rug. Why I think to strike back.
That's my theory, just my theory, because why if we
went after vaccines alone, you know, there's a lot of
controversy plus and minuses. But when you hit the pharmaceuticals
where it counts, and you go after one of the
number one best selling medications of cineminifin worldwide, like ivermectin,
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I think we've thrown down the gauntlet. I think it
was creative and again it's just my theory, but that's
kind of where I stand. Just so you folks know
my story is out there. It's called They Call Me Harriet,
a book that I've published. You can get it up
on the QRS code. It tells not just from how
the pandemic started and the questions I had growing up
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as an our nurse, but as a senior executive. I
was basically duct taped and told that I couldn't share
or do more. They poop pooed all of the stuff
that I tried to share about ibermectin from leading physicians
across the country, doctor Pierre Corey, doctor Peter McCullough. And then, unfortunately,
after I tried to care for my husband who was
sick with COVID, I became so sick that I was
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in the ICU. I was given that nasty drug we're
going to talk about today, rem death of your and
so yeah, it's all there in the book, and it's
all there all the things that they told you and
lied to you and misled you. So feel free pick
it up either on my QORS code or you can
pick it up at Amazon dot com. But without further ado,
I want to share I'm just so grateful to have
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met this man across the airwaves of LinkedIn, because I'm
out there seeking and searching for people that really want
to know the truth. And when I read Craig's story,
it really inspired me because he again is a fellow
survivor who beat the odds. Craig Andrews, He's going to
be joining us in just a second. He's a US Marine.
He became an electrical engineer. He was involved in mobile
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phone design, and he turned into marketing. He's got a
multi bestseller book, can't wait to hear about that. And
he has driven nearly over half a billion dollars in
revenue during his career. So he well accomplished, well spoken,
and has an outstanding track record. In two thousand and nine,
Craig had launched his own company, and that company will
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probably hear a little bit more from Craig. It's allies
for me. But in twenty twenty one, sadly, Craig began
a three month journey in the hospital. He was in
a coma for six weeks. He nearly died during that time.
His team ran his company without him. Now Craig's going
to share some lessons from the ledge of death and
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how they applied to marketing and into his life, and
I think it can be really inspirational. So Craig, welcome aboard.
Can't wait to hear your story. Just reading that when
you shared that with me in your story on LinkedIn,
I have to tell you, it took me back because
it sounds like you fought like I did, and it
sounds like your journey was actually even worse. And once
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you're event a leader, the chances of survival are so nil.
I'm just glad that you, as a marine, are here
to tell us the fight that you had and where
you are today. So welcome, and I'm just going to
hand the mic over to you. Tell us a little
bit about you and what happened.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Well, Patty, it's such a delight to be here, and
you know, let me just kind of give a little
bit at the end of the story before I talk
about the beginning. Not only did I survive, but I
was the first one that left that ic you alive
and the and the when I talked I know some
people in that system, and my understanding is I was
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one of the very very rare survivors and it's when
I look back on it. You know, let me jump
ahead a little bit more. Six weeks out of the hospital,
I'm meeting with my primary care physician, or my former
primary care physician, and he started badgering me about the vaccines.
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And I wasn't looking like for a fight. And I mean,
I was a bag of bones at the time. I
was still in a wheelchair, couldn't really walk more than
a few feet at the time, and so I went
up for a fight anyway. But he was just coming
at me and I and I looked at him. I said,
you know, I'm not going to say his name one air,
but I said, you know, doctor, I'll just call him
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doctor G. Say doctor G. If I could go back
in time, knowing what I know right now, if I
could go back in time and do things differently, I
would have certainly taken advantage of therapeutics. And he was
all outraged and he was like, what therapeutics. I said, well,
let's start with mont clonal antibodies, which were after he
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approved they were and he was like, yeah, we had
those in August August twenty twenty one when I went
to the hospital, and I said yeah, and I visited
one of your offices. He was booked that day, so
I had to go to another one of his offices
and I said, they didn't say a word about him.
And I said, and normally that would use ivermactin and
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he he said, well, that's that stuff doesn't work, and
you know, blah blah blah. I've looked at the studies
of mobile and I said, well, you know, I've looked
into it. And from I understand, the way covid spread
was something called proteas would dock on the protein and
would split the protein, and that's how it would multiply.
But apparently ivermectin would coak both the proteas and the
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protein to prevent the docking, so it would stop the spreading. Now,
he had never gotten an answer like that.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I get. I love that.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And he looked at me and he said, well, do
you know the chemical compound for ivermectin. It's like no,
He's like, well I do, I'm a chemist. Became clear
this was about his ego. This was not about me.
This was about his ego, and that's why he's now
my former primary care physician.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Smart man, you are a smart man, but.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That's kind of the problem. I mean, if we go
all the way back, if we wind back to twenty twenty,
the one thing that became very apparent, very quickly was
they're lying. And you know, I remember thinking, you guys,
I spent six years in the Marine Corps. You guys
train me to recognize propaganda. You don't think i'd recognize
it when you use it on may And it was
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abundantly clear. And the things that made it clear were
they ridiculed you if you ask questions, and they would
cleave to this kind of high concept of science. Well,
you have to trust the science and and the the problem.
And even you know, Tony Faalci one day said well
I am the science and remember that. Yeah. But you
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know it's interesting. I had people who people I knew
personally that were critiquing me. They're like, well, you're not
a scientist. I'm like, well, yeah, actually I am. And
my my first publication was about measuring the effects of
the schemia in the heart. And I said, but the
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one thing I know about science because they made they
taught us this. I had to take a class to
graduate that was called the Philosophy of Science. What talked
about was the way science advances is by rigorous challenging.
Science must be challenged. It must It's not optional. And
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so when I have people saying, well, you know, you
have to trust the science, I'm like, well, I actually
have a couple of science degrees and I have a
publication in cardiac research, and the one thing I know
about science is it has to be challenged. If you
can't challenge science, then whatever you're dealing with it's not science.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
That's right. Isn't that the whole essence of research to
question science, to question the peko, to challenge and see
if it's absolute or not, or where it falls in between,
and is there significant statistical significance.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, well, you know, and in that class they taught
us about this case is a case of two hospitals
in Britain. You know, I forget when maybe the eighteen
hundreds and one hospital. They both were maternity hospitals, and
one hospital had a super high death rate amongst the moms,
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the birthing moms, and the other hospital didn't and they
could never figure it out. Well, one guy looked at
and he realized, oh, wait a minute, one of these
hospitals is a teaching hospital where they're working on cadavers,
then going down and delivering babies without washing their hands
because we didn't know what bacteria was at the time,
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and so the doctors were killing these moms because they
didn't know what bacteria was. Well, the guy who figured
that out started talking about and they called them a
complete nut job. They ruined his career. And now we've
kind of swung the other way. I look at everybody
running around with their hand sanitizer, thinking, you guys are
destroying your immune system. We need a few We need
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a little bit bacteria in our lives, not as much
as they had in those hospitals. But that's what happens,
and and sadly we've seen that happen again. There are
a few truth tellers that could see what was going
on that we're saying that, And unfortunately, some doctors had
their careers ruined. People lost jobs, people were denied travel
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and all sorts of things. And because science was treated
more as a religion than a what science truly is.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Oh yeah, well that's the scary part about it. And
you know what I love is, you know, while you've
got you know, information degree background in the sciences, as
far as you know, I guess parts of cardiology as well.
You're out there in the community. You know, I think
people would say, perhaps my bias is because I'm in
the medical field, But so many people like yourself were
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out there and they kept getting it was truly propaganda,
and that propaganda, you know, it just it continued to unfold.
And yet what do they say, You continue to do
the same thing and get the same results, Like it's insanity.
And we kept putting the same medication, the same protocol
and watching people die. And a lot of what I
investigated and was trying to get the word out to
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people is from the insides. It was driven by infectious
disease doctors and the pharmaceuticals, the farm des with infectious disease.
They were driving the whole organizational structure to shut down
any other thought of the right to try. And the
physicians that were actually either trying to utilize ivermectin, they
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were utilize and b one blue boxamine, several of budesinied
many other things that really helped to pull in that
decrease of inflammation. And like yourself, patients were going home
a month before I got sick with COVID. We were
successfully using hydroxychloroquine. But because all the hype that the
word was out and then all the stuff about bleach
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and everything else.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
We didn't have anybody die.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Everybody went home. That's when I was in Idaho. And
then fast forward, you know, it just grew and grew
and grew and grew, and I think that's where I'm
hoping now. I see a lot of people on social
media are throwing back because now there's this big thing
about the COVID shot, which I can't even call a vaccine,
but the COVID shot. They're going, oh, folks, you may
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have trouble getting you may have trouble getting it. And
many people now are fighting back, going you can take
that and you know where you can put it. And
it's just I'm glad that people are finally taking hold.
But now we have the aftermath. We have people like
you and I that survived. I've got a whole group
of folks, and I hope some of them are actually
tuning in today because they love hearing fellow survivors. And
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many of those folks they watched, not just many of
them were medical professionals and felt helpless, but people who
didn't have any medical background. They have this guilt ridden
belief that I should have done more, or I should
have taken my loved one out of the hospital, or
I should have I should have, I should have, And
we're trying to work with them to heal them because
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no one knew, no one could fight against this, and
so we've got to lift the guilt, and we've got
to inspire and empower people to fight through the propaganda,
seek the truth, seek results. And so that's why I'm
just so excited. I want to hear more about how
how you survived despite all those odds. I just it's
it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, let me let me address the guilt real quick.
You know, I was in a coma for six weeks
when they put me on the ventilator, and my wife
and I had talked about We knew the ventilator was
a death sentence, and so the plan was I was
going to do whatever it took to stay off the ventilator.
And the what happened was they just shot me full
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of morphine, so I quit fighting. And then they called
her in the middle of the night and they bullied her,
they woke her up. She's you know, it's twelve thirty
in the morning. She's dead asleep, and they start bullying her,
and she hears me in the background screaming, no ventilator,
no ventilator, and she tells the doctor. She says, well,
he done one and beyond the vent later and the
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doctor laughed at her and said, well, you don't put
them on. He'll be dead in twenty four hours. And
the reality was they just had me shot full of morphine,
so it reduces your respiration. Yeah, I did have promised breathing,
but just turn me on my belly because your lungs
are in the back of your chest cavity. And every
time I got on my belly, my oxygen shot darn
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near a hundred and but thees they bullied her into
the decision put her in just a horrible thing. And
when I woke up from the coma six weeks later
and she started telling me when it happened, I don't
know if I could even talk at that point, because
when I woke up, I still had a track. Oh,
I just remember feeling I found sadness decision that she
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had to make, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Owd of you here to share this, I really am.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
So I would say to anybody that's wrestling with that
grief and s thing. I told my wife, Yeah, you
were put in impossible situation. Don't carry that guilt.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
That's incredible, the survivor's guilt, and in your case, you survived.
Thank God, that is something she has to be proud
of that she did the very best she could for you.
When you have people telling you things, and these are
medical professionals, how can you not? I mean, I take
to something far simpler, far less you know, traumatic, but
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you know, imagine if you will. I have a vehicle.
I don't know what the heck's wrong with my vehicle.
I go to the experts, they tell me it's going
to be X y Z. Why do I bring my
husband or say? This is what they're telling me. Because
the experts will tell you, hopefully what they believe to
be true, and hopefully in medicine there's some kind of
moral compass. But a lot of times they're going to
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do what they want to do because they just want
to do it. And that's what happened and is still happening.
They put these things like your primary care doc, he
was poo poo and everything you said. Imagine a less
knowledgeable person or an older person. How many times I've
heard what the doctor said and these people lost loved ones.
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You know, our group Betrial Project USA dot org. That's
what we're fighting against to help people heal from yilt
and trauma because we know the rest of the story.
And I love hearing that. You know how you fought
through that, and so so how how did it go
from you know what you went through? You were six
weeks in a coma.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, I mean, let me let me back up a
little bit to a little bit the give a little
bit more of the context. So my wife and I
both we both woke up very very sick on July
thirty first, twenty twenty one. Okay, and ironically we know
who guys sick and that happens. I'm not upset with them.
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I'm upset with their smugness because they were one of
the smugly vaccinated, you know. And and that's but you
remember when the lies they said, well, hey, if you
get vaccinated, you can't transmit the disease.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Another another false narrative.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, and I want to give the details. I want
to give too many details because we still care about
this person. But when you break down the fact that
we both woke up sick meant we were exposed at
the at the same time. It went like I got
sick and then I got her sick because there was
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a delay. And when you look at the facts, are
they point very very squarely in one direction.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, they're probably shedding.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
And yeah, and and so by August tenth, my wife
was starting to get better. You know, I had started
getting better when like a Friday, August tenth was a Monday,
I'd start getting better Friday. But then I took another
turn south. And on Sunday, August ninth, my wife was
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having trouble breathing, and she jumped in the shower, opened
up her lungs and she said, hey, can you go
buy a pall sox? And so I went and got
a pall socks for and sure, her oxygen was great.
It was like ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven, something
like that. And she said, well, let's check yours. Now
I was the one that ran out because I was
feeling reasonably fine. Well, my oxygen was like eighty seven.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
And she's like, what do we do? And I said, well,
let's give it to day and see what happens. Well,
I wake up a few hours before my wife, and
I woke up before her that morning, and she had
the pall socks on the nightstand. I went over and
I checked my oxygen and it was down in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Oh my gosh, it's wonder you weren't passing out yet.
Maybe that's coming.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I'm gomory, so I'm going to say that too.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
But you guys are tough.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, And so I realized, okay, there's no talking her
out of going to the hospital. So I I came down.
I knew I started catching up once more because I
haven't been doing a lot of work. And when she
came down, she's like, all right, let's check your oxygen.
And of course I am reading to the answer, and
she's like, all right, you're going to the hospital. You're
going to the doctor. So I set an appointment, go
to the doctor, and they basically scold us there and
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talk about mont colonial anybody's They just scold us. And
what ended up happening was another not just three months,
more like I mean all the way up to my
primary care physician, another five months of scolding by these people.
And so we leave there and go into the hospital.
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She drops me off at the er and goes to
park the car, and I walk up to the desk
and I say, I have to say it in multiple breaths.
I'm like, I'm having trouble breathing. And they immediately take
me back behind the curtain and put me on oxygen.
I hear her on the other side of the curtain.
She's like, where's my husband, And they say, well, we
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have them. You need to leave because they weren't letting
family in the hospital. Well, neither of us realized it.
I didn't realize that would be another two months before
i'd see her, and she didn't realize it'd be another
couple of weeks before she'd see May. And they told
her to go out and wait in the car. This
is August in Texas. And so they had her waiting
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in the car in August in Texas. And after a
couple hours, I said, you should just go home. I
don't know what's going to happen. I texted her and
they ended up admitting me and for that was August tenth,
and I still remember it was about nine o'clock in
the evening. The doctor came into my room and he
prescribed rem deeseverr. He He didn't tell me that multiple
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studies had shown that rem deesvir didn't work for COVID.
He didn't tell me that the World Health Organization put
out a policy ten months earlier saying, don't give remdesvie
for COVID because it doesn't work. He didn't tell me
that they knew remdsvir was very dangerous because in twenty fifteen,
when they repurposed it free bullet killed fifty three percent
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of the people they gave it to.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, more than half.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, he didn't tell me I was putting my kidneys
at risk. And he definitely didn't tell me that. On
August tenth, twenty twenty one, the day they prescribed roumdsverer
to me, it was one that three drugs listed on
cms dot gov where the doctors would get a twenty
percent bonus if they prescribed that drug for COVID.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You nailed it.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So for for eleven days, I kind of thought, and I,
you know, my oxygen would dip down. I would do
different breathing exercises to get back up. Eventually I had
to start getting on my belly to get back up,
and I was fighting I was hanging in there, and
and on August twenty first, they transferred me to another room,
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a higher care room, and they increased my oxygen, which
would have been you know, it should have been great.
I had more, you know, I had a uh, you know,
high buying canula one high flow. Yeah. And and I'll
never forget a couple of things happened. Uh. The doctor
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stopped by, and I referenced him in my book. My
wife and I wrote a book called Hope that Won't Die.
And there's two paragraphs from that book. And by the way, earlier,
earlier in the book, I introduced a doctor. I say,
if Droopy the dog was a doctor, he would look
exactly like this man. It was. The guy would combine.
It would just look so depressed, oh gosh. And and
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so these paragraphs read, the doctor stopped by for a
brief chastisement. Not drop the doctor. This guy was more
like a schoolmarm with an exceptionally high opinion of himself,
and his schoolmarm duties today were to inform me of
my sins and how bad things come to those who sin.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You were unvaccinated, of course, that probably came up.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
That's that was the sid that was, and it goes
on says As I reflected on that conversation, I realized
he believed I would die in the next few days.
So his priority was to make his last words to
a dying man a chastisement. And my life was in
the hands of such a person.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That is so incredible, unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
And after he left, the nurse came in and said,
we're going to give you something will help you sleep.
Ended up being an armful of morphine, Oh my god,
which suppresses respiration. And at this point, so this is
August twenty first, I'm twenty two days into the disease.
All I have to do is make it a few
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more days and the disease will just move on. I'd
been fighting, I've been doing well, and the one thing
that's got me was that armful of morphine.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah sos everything down, Yeah everything. And I'm curious if
they even gave you any kind of you know, anti inflammatories,
like because they did use ChIL and all. And the
one thing that's so important about the Thailand on I
mentioned it earlier at the beginning of the show, Why
I've Got cracked the code, the tail and all shuts
off your glucothion for twenty four hours. That's just one
dose of it. So if you infuse ivy tail and all,
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which they were also doing, you now turn off your
detoxification process for days until you come off of it.
And what do you need to get through the virus
but your master detoxifier. So then what happened?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, and so then that's when they woke her up,
you know, six hours later, they call her in the
middle of the night. And that's why he I mean,
he's seen this playbook. He'd seen this playbook. He knew
what was about to happen. He knew I was about
to go on the vent layer. This was going to
be the last time he was going to talk to me.
And so he decided combine and chastise me.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, that's just the nail and your cross.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah. Well, and so they called her and you got
some of that story, and she asked him. She said,
how many people have survived? And he said none have survived?
And she said, look, you've basically given him a death sentence,
and so they they did that, and then fortunately she said, look,
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if he's going to die, he's not going to die alone.
And she forced her way into the hospital and they
started giving her one hour a day. And yeah, she
almost got arrested one time coming in, but they gave
her an hour a day. And she'd come in and
she'd sing to me and she'd pray over me, and
she'd say words of encouragement. I heard her.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's incredible. She sounds like an awesome, awesome wife. That
is incredible.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Amen, yeah, give up, no, and you know, and so
here we are going on the vent later August twenty second,
and she, you know, she wait, she starts texting people.
She texted my our next door neighbor and she came
over right away and sat with her. She texted my
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brother and his wife who live in Maryland, and they
said we will be there tomorrow. We're getting in the
car and we're driving and she said, well, you can't
do anything for Craig, and they said, well, we're coming
for you. And they drove straight through the night from
Maryland to Texas to sit with her and her sons.
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She has two sons. One came the first week, the
other came the second week. And labor day was approaching.
She said, you know, she had taken a couple of
weeks off work, and she realized that she needed to
figure out what life was about to look like. And
so she told him, she said, why don't you go home,
get some rest, and come back for Craig's funeral. And
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that was Labor Day twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, and her company did something absolutely amazing. I'm going
to call them out. It was NCR. They've since been
bought by a private equity, and private equity does what
private equity does, It ruins great companies. But NCR told her,
they say, hey, here's what we're going to do for you.
You're going to work halftime and we're going to pay
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you full time, take care of your husband.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
How incredible? Yeah, how incredible?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah? And so now they, like everybody else, thought I'd
be dead in a week or two. So they didn't
think it'd be that long. But they ended up doing
doing that for her from Labor Day all the way
until January third, when she returned to work.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
What I kept, there are good people out there, that's
what we have to hold on to. Yeah, And she
worked part time and she worked halftime.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
They paid her full time, and so, well, I was
still here in Austin. She you know, she'd get off work.
You know, her time to visit me was I think
at one o'clock in the afternoon. She'd come by and
then then became you know, then they so September eleventh,
they put put me on a track, and September sixteenth
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they removed the feeding tube from my nose and put
a feeding tube in my stomach. And so they're starting
to work towards.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Maybe waking you up. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, And and what's funny is I can I can
tell you where I was on the what I was
dreaming on those days. My dreams correlated with reality really yeah,
So okay, one of my dreams there were people that
died in my dreams that correlated to those who were
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dying around me. And so on September sixteenth, and my
dream I was in an agrarian village in the North
Carolina Mountains. It was down in valley, and the patriarch
of the village where it was working in the sawmill
and he died, and so they had to get him
out of the valley. And for some reason I was
attached to him for a cable going through my nose,
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and they took us up the hill with that cable
going through the nose and he was laying beside me,
and they put us on a train heading out and
I was supposed to get off on one stop, and
there was all sorts of confusion. Folks were upset. There
was somebody about five feet away from me talking on
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the phone to try to coordinate what, you know, who
was supposed to meet me, what they were supposed to do.
The train ended up moving on, pulled into Harper's Ferry,
West Virginia, and that's where they pulled me off the train.
So on September sixteenth, I had the feeding tube removed
from my nose cable. Yeah, they also transferred me. They
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downgraded me from the ICU to the IMC, and so
they were putting in another room. Now this didn't make
my wife's journal because she probably didn't know, but I'm
guessing there was some confusion that the room wasn't ready
and they were upset, and there was some tense conversation
of Hey, we have this guy coming out of surgery
and we've got to put him in a room. And
so that's that's an example of reality, you know, reality
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matching lining up with my dreams, unless there's another reason
I was dreaming about being drug up a mountain with
a cable going through my nose.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, that's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So through all this kind of where did that lead
you to the point of starting to they started to
take you off the event? What was their plan there?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah? So I was I got off the event there,
and I got off the event and I they transferred
me to a hospital in San Antonio and the and
but when they transported me, they put me back on
the event. So I was on the event twenty five
days the first time.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So you were awake and it was on your track.
So you were now invented And were you talking at
this point or now?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
No? I went talking, and from my perspective, I was light.
I was out of it. Now I was interacting with
my wife like in my world again, I can line
up things and I in my world, I was still
in harper'shirey in a weird medical commune. Uh that was
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handling me roughly. They had put a willow read in
my throat because it was make me better. And and
my wife came in to visit me, and she came
in on my right and I looked at her. I said,
you gotta get me eye here what's happening here is
not good, and what's interesting. The reason is significance. It's
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on the right is I asked her, I said, when
you would visit me, were you on the left or
on the right? She said, I was always on the left.
I said, what about September twenty first? And she said,
all that day I was in on your on the right.
And so that's where she approached me in the dream.
And I was able to line up a few other things. Okay,
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so I was aware of her, but I was I mean,
if I was awake, I certainly wasn't in my right mind.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, they probably had just so sedated and all the
mines on board. Do you know what other medications they
had you on? I mean, because people often talk about
a variety of things, not just morphine. Did you see
your medical record too? I imagine did you go back
and look at that?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I have it, I haven't looked at all of it.
I still want to go back and look at how
much morphine they shot in me. I know when I
woke up. So they transported me to San Antonio because
there wasn't ay Ltach in Austin that could take me
and would take my insurance. Okay, there, they put me
on a either there or at the acute care. They
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put me on anti narcolepsy medicine, which they forgot to
take me off of. I was awake for a month
in struggling, sleeping before they realized they still had me
on the anti narcolepsy medicine.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Oh well, yeah, it's a stimulant. They do give that
to people for an arcallpsey. That's interesting. I'm just curious.
At some point I'd love to hear what meds they
had and did they make any comments to you or say, wow,
we didn't think you'd live, but you're just your vitals
everything stayed stable, probably because you were so far along
with COVID. Your body was, like you said, those last
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few days, once they lifted off the sedation, you were healing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
So I never you know, after that doctor chastised me,
I never saw that crew again. It was lights out
for me. But the day before I left the hospital,
that same guy that chastised me came in my room
and my wife said, hey, in this wonderful you got
a survivor. And he looked at it and just said
grunted and said, well, he's really weak and then left
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the room.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Lord Bove, isn't that amazing? That's all I heard. No
one knew the survivors. All we counted were the deaths.
And I would ask that same question. I'm like, who
can we celebrate how many have made it through? They
don't have those statistics account at where COVID. I see
you ventilator's deaths all that. I think you're paid the
more that died, the more they came in.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, yeah, and it's it's crazy, you know. So here
here's one thing that we learned in hindsight. Uh, do
you ever have a relative that's waking up from a
coma assume they know nothing and tell them everything. And
so I'm sitting in San Antonio. I don't know where
I am. Actually think I'm in North Carolina. I have
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a trait, so I can't talk. And I had a
couple of people come by to visit one day, and
the second one called my wife and asked for directions.
And I'm listening to give directions and I realized, oh,
I'm in San Antonio. That was the first time I
realized where you were where I was, and you know,
and there were a few things that I meant I
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didn't know I had a trait. I knew there was
in my world. There was some weird bamboo apparatus on
my chest.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, couldn't get it all.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah. And when they would come by and do suction,
that was that was never fun.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Oh yeah, you know that's the other interesting point too.
When we put people under sedation for the you know,
going into the operating room or if you're in the
ICU and they've got used to date it on event,
hearing generally has some longevity to it, and hearing is
really the last to go. And so things that may
have connected or you may have heard sounds or different
things probably created some of this delusional type thinking or
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not clear thinking, and certainly for a good reason. And
so getting half information or pieces of information, your brain's
trying to like figure it all out and process it.
But it's interesting you heard so much and then I
guess where did you kind of get to that point?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Next?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
What's you know? You were there? You were in the
rehab facility on a tree.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah. So, and let me throw out this real quick
one thing. I remember I told you about how my
wife approached from the right. Yeah, that was the end
of the dream, but it was actually the beginning of
her visit. She made it. She was in very very
few of my dream, and when she was there, it
was at the very end of the dream. And you
know this, Our brain consumes a tremendous amount of energy,
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a tremendous number of calories. And I was in my chart.
I was anorexit. They had been starving me, and I
think what was happening was when she would show up,
my brain would say, you're safe. Now, let's shut down
a few things and rest.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
How awesome. And that's why they kept people out of
the hospitals. And I'm surprised she even got herself in,
which is phenomenal. My husband worked at the hospital that
I was in, and they forbade him from being in
the in the ICU threatened him with his job. Did
you walk through those doors, you will lose your job,
And of course you know here I'm in the hospital.
You know, so what happened? How did you get to
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the next point?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
And you so? Yeah, So I wake up in about
a week or so later, they removed the traits. I
can finally talk, and apparently I was saying some pretty
crazy things, had some warped views of what was real
what wasn't. That's something else. I was talking to a
speech therapist and she said, you know, the speech therapist
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should have told you and told your family, Hey, he's
going to believe some wacky things. It's that's why i'd
lost my mind. Yeah, nobody talked to you about that. No,
that's criminal. So you were in bed for all this
time too. You were weak.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
They probably didn't feed you as much nutrients as you needed.
So you were anorexic pulling yourself back together. And then
how how you got out? You got home? What was
that like?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah? So I finished up at the LTACH, transferred back
to Austin to a rehab hospital where you know, I
learned to walk again and do other things. My my
oot gave me a wedgie. Poor communication on my part. Yeah,
I was obviously I'd learned how to use the toilet,
toilet again with new core muscles, and so this one day,
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my first time was a disasters. Second time, She's like,
I tell you, I'll make you a deal. You stand up,
I'll pull your shorts up for you, and then you
sit back down the toilet and then we'll transfer you
to the wheelchair, and you know you've reached a new
low point in life when strange women offering to pull
your shorts up for you is like one of the
best things you've ever heard. And so I stand up.
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She pulls my shorts up. I look back at the
toilet and realize if I sit down, I'm gonna have
to stand up again. That's hard. So I just said
I'm going to go straight for the wheelchair. But I
didn't tell her, and I wasn't wearing a gate belt,
and so she sees me moving in a direction she's
not expecting. She freaks out. The only thing she can
grab is the back of my shorts. She yanks them
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up to my shoulders as she guides me into the wheelchair.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, Oh memorable moments. Oh my gosh.
So listen, Craig, this story is just incredible. You have
survived so much more than people, I think even realized
until they heard just from your mouth to our ears.
Where do you draw your drive, your determination, and what
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can you share with everybody to kind of give them
hope and maybe understanding of why we have to question things.
What do you want the world to know? What do
you want the world to know.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
So I would say the first thing is, never ever
let doctor bully you again. They are required ethically and
they are required legally to answer your questions. And you
just sit there, keep hammering away questions and be bold.
Don't trust that they have it all figured out. A
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story for another interview would be how my primary care
physician had me headed for permanent kidney damage because I
was I was doing Camp Gladiator or may for too
long and too long with hypoxya was hurting my kidneys,
and my doctor kept telling me to keep working out
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instead saying, hey, why don't we dial that back to
thirty minutes? So they're not always the doctors don't always
have it right, and so you need to advocate for yourself.
You need to ask tough questions, don't let them bully you.
And there's it's so easy to do, and there's some
science behind it. There's the Milgrim experiments that show that
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these guys just carry incredible authority in our minds and
make us do things that we don't want to do.
Don't let them do that.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I love it. What about you? How did you get
to where?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
You seem like you're back active or you're active, How
did you get to the point where you, you know,
are your best self now eating well, exercise and how
did you get back to that?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Well? Being a marine, we you know, we we we
just take it on. We tackle the tough. And so
I started going to this workout called Camp Gladiator when
I'm still in a wheelchair and still on oxygen. And
the main reason was I couldn't get I couldn't get
an ot out to the house, and I wasn't getting
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any upper body strength. And so I saw this. I'd
never been to one before, and they had free workout
at the mall next to our house. And so I
showed up one cold January morning and my wheelchair with
my ball of oxygen and started doing Camp Gladiator. And
I've been going ever since. I was there this morning,
actually this morning, I was with the original trainer that
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trained me that first time. And it's hard. My lungs
are not fully recovered. We were doing an exercise this
morning where we would do kind of like the crow.
We'd stay on one leg and we'd take a kettlebell
and put it around, you know, wrap it around our
head to work on balance. Well, I have neuropthie in
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my feet, so my balance stinks, and so there's still
a lie of recovery. But you know what, you just
got to show up.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah, and you know, we probably do need to do
another show or two because there's so much more that
I think we have to share with folks. What about
you know where you are now? That didn't stop you,
your company, that your people took over things, and now
where are you back now you're driving a company.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah. So yeah, my team's just been amazing. They stepped
up to the plate. I we don't have enough time
in the show for me to bragle my team enough.
They're just amazing. But yeah, back to work. I mean
life is when I first returned to work, I'd work
for a couple hours than nap, then work for a
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couple hours than nap, and I got more and more,
but just got to show up and do it.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, well, you do have Beeers determination and like I
always tell my patients, we don't try, we train. And
I'd love to know too, did you have any like
residual stuff with like hypertension where you're at rest and
your blood pressure shoots up, you get a high pulse rate,
any any residual trouble breathing. You're just you're still on
the road to recovery. I guess.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yeah. So my resting heart rates in the sixties right now.
My blood pressure is on the high side of normal,
but some of that's genetic. I have always been that way.
The biggest thing is I furthest I've been able to
run is just over half mile. I used to run
three miles and it's been hard to my two drops
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down the seventies when I run.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Well, hang tight, don't go anywhere. We're going to wrap up.
But I want to thank you so much. Your story
is just it's amazing. I think we need to learn
a little bit more and hear some more, especially because
you took yourselves from such a place and you're still successful.
And again I get it, you know, simplify amazing And
marine husband, I didn't ask you have kids.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yeah, my I have a son who sadly passed away
last year, and my wife has two two boys. At
some else we could talk about the drug epidemic we
have in the US.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
We will. We're going to talk just after this. Yeah,
this is National Suicide Prevention Month and with all that stuff.
But listen, I want to give a shout out. Thanks
so much folks for being patient listening to Craig's story.
I know sometimes we get questions, but I think people
are in just such awe of like, oh my god,
they can't believe what they just heard. We are here
every Thursday, three pm, Wellness and Censored. We are here
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for you, because of you, and because we're fighters. We're
going to speak the truth. We're going to fight back.
Tune in every Thursday. If you want to hear the
recorded show, you can always check us out on iHeartRadio
under podcast for Wellness and Censored with Patty G. Thanks
so much, Craig, stay tuned, don't go anywhere, and folks,
be well, have a wonderful weekend, Be blessed, stay strong,
and don't forget ninety eight to eight. If you're ever
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in an emotional time you need support and you think
there's no one there. Since it is National Suicide Prevention Month,
share that number, tell a friend, get help if you
need it. We're here for you, guys. Take care all
of asks you soon.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
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