September 11, 2025 • 46 mins
9043771196 magnoliaBwellness.com In today's episode Dedicated to Charlie Kirk & his family we discuss what is happening in society Tolerance & Derangement. Tolerism the new word covering the landscape of behavior that needs treatment and intervention. Learn how to gain ground to help intervene and work through red flags of concern for mental health and get help. Acute Stress from recent events how to heal. God help & Bless Our Nation. Standing Strong Speaking Out in the Face of Evil.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Now, Hey, good afternoon, and welcome to another episode of
Wellness and Censored. My name is Patty G. I am
a psychiatric nurse practitioner, and I am here today to
share just a really heavy heart in talking with all
of you about what has happened, what has happened to
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this country, what has happened to this world as we
all have experienced and in some way or another morning
loss of Charlie Kirk. Afternoon, I was just getting into
my car and I always turn in some afternoon talk radio,
and when I started to hear what the announcements were,
I just couldn't even believe what I was hearing. It
was fairly surreal. And as the hours passed, and you know,
(01:14):
shortly thereafter, as I was listening to the newscast on
a couple of different stations, it was he's alive, He's alive,
He's in critical condition, And then there were mixed reports
of it he was actually alive or if he was passed,
and everybody wanted to be the first to the story
with the news. And as I listened to it all unfold,
it was just it was so surreal and the outcome
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we were all holding on for what the possible outcome
was going to be, and it really shook me. You know,
I'm in the world. I'm in the business of psychiatric health,
mental health, mental illness, and I've been talking to you
for the last few weeks about some of the actual illnesses, disturbances,
irregular patterns of behavior that we have all come to
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treat with social acceptance of people being different and divergent
and woke, and yet we have become so desensitized to
shootings and killings. And yesterday, right after this all happened,
I stopped my car in a shopping plaza and was
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watching people come and go, and it became very clear
to me how desensitized people have become. And I'm going
to give them the benefit of the doubt, because when
I called back over to my office, nobody really knew
what happened. Because we're so busy, we're taking care of patients,
we're not listening to the news or the TV or
the radio, but yet looking around me, people were going
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about their life, and I really found that disturbing. You know,
today we mourn over nine to eleven. Do you all
remember where you were? I remember specifically where I was
in a classroom teaching nursing students, and they rolled the
TV in to the classroom and we all stood in
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disbelief as we watched the second plane hit the towers.
Of course, now here we are years later, and we've
learned so many things more about the explosion and the
crash and whatever you want to call it, and I'm
sure years from now, hopefully not years, hopefully hours or days,
we're going to find out what really happened and how
Charlie Kirk was assassinated yesterday around just before twelve noon
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in Utah at a college in a predominantly calm, nonviolent
city and state. And yet it's happening all over the country,
and so it shook me enough that I felt it
would be important. My friend and colleague Mick Rosatto does
a podcast as well. I was just on her show
(03:50):
a few minutes ago. We spoke for the last almost hour,
and I wanted to bring her on today because there's
so much that we want to talk to you about
in terms of one heal and we've got to start
to look at this with fresh eyes. This is not
the new norm, and we need to really get our
priorities straight. But while we're dealing and reeling with the
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math and the aftermath of what's happened and kind of
calming our persons down and calming our family down, and
what do we tell our children, I wanted to talk
today just about some of the things we've heard, hopefully
to help many of you. This is a trauma, this
is a shock to many people. Yet there were actually
people out there mocking and saying very unpleasant things, kind
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evil things, and we wanted to talk about that too.
So I wanted you to enjoy hearing from my friend Mick. Matt,
why don't you come join us, tell us a little
bit about all that's near and dear to you. Tell
us what you were thinking, what went through your mind
yesterday as we learned about Charlie Kirk. Where were you,
what was going on and what what did this shock
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wave bring to you?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
So I was at home and I was working on
a few things that I needed to get done. As
we're trying to get criminal investigations open into the COVID
hospital protocols. I'm connecting with attorney generals, I'm connecting with legislators.
I'm connecting with anybody who will listen and who will
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help us as we move forward to ensure accountability and
justice occurs in that, you know, this whole thing, this
whole debacle which COVID, that's another story for another day.
But the aftermath of that, when I heard the news
that Charlie Kirk had been shot, and of course I
just started going through all of my chats, I started
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looking at news. I started, you know, trying to you know,
there was the like you said, there was a lot
of back and forth. People were saying already that he
had died. There was that graphic video that came out
where you could see that clearly he had been shot
his artery, you know, is carotid artery or his jugular
just you know, you could just tell when he was
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shot that it was going to be devastating. And I'll
tell you the very first thing I did was I prayed.
I prayed that Charlie Kirk would be okay, and I
prayed for his family. I prayed for those people who
were there at the Utah University because at that time
I didn't know if this was just one It sounded
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like one shot, but we don't know you like you said,
we're kind of in a crazy world right now. And
then after that I started posting because you know, I
was like, wait, wait, now, this seems like you know,
this is tragic, this is you know. I mean, yes,
there's a lot that needs to be sorted out. But
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one thing that ran true to me was that they
were Charlie was someone who was definitely about having a dialogue.
He wanted to have constructive diet with people. He brought,
He went to their campuses, He offered them the microphone,
he allowed them, he talked to them, he engaged them.
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To me, this was automatically in my head, is like
they did they kill him to silence him? Did they
assassinate him to shut him up or shut him down?
And whether it was for Charlie himself and it because
I believe this was a targeted political assassination, or whether
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it was a message to be sent out to all
that was my first thing is that we have to
find the strength within ourselves to pray and to grieve,
but we have to understand that this is something that
is happening across the nation and we cannot allow it
to shut us down and make us fearful and bring
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some sort of psychological bioterrorism like they did during COVID,
so that we all retreat back. No more retreating back.
Charlie Kirk wouldn't retreat back. And I think he brought
a lot of wisdom and discernment to the youth, and
I really pray that they that as the days go forward,
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that that turning point, USA moves forward under under those
who learned and were mentored under Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, thanks for that. I think that's just so true.
I mean, you know, you and I are both nurses,
and we've we've been through so much over the years
in healthcare and trauma and tragedy. You know, you did
mention and we won't focus on the pandemic today, but
this has become a culmination. It was a precursor of
all the traumatic events that have happened to people in
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our world and in society. And what is just most
shocking to me is that we've become so desensitized and
in doing so that citization. We just people were just
going about their day and going about things that you know,
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we got used to things with COVID, we got used
to masking, not that many of us liked it, And
now hear a voice of life, of God of the world,
and he was assassinated and people actually mocked it, people
actually said things. It's just incredible to me. It's just
incredible to me. And you know, I just don't understand
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how anybody couldn't have been moved yesterday. I just don't
understand it. And yet with all that has gone on
in the world, does anybody else besides us? I mean,
I know there's a lot of people out there. The
tolerance has got to stop, the tolerance for dysfunctional behavior,
and we've allowed it. We talked on your show just
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a few minutes ago about all the types of murders
and killings, and it's happening and happening and happening. We
keep saying we've got to stop it, but we've allowed
people that are ill. And I won't even say ill
as an excuse. What happened to Charlie yesterday was a
calculated assassination and that is not an illness, because when
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you're ill, you do things you don't realize. This was
planned and planned by multiple people. The girl from the
Ukraine on the subway. Yeah, Irena, Marina. You know the
guy had fourteen prior convictions, So what made you think
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this number fifteen was never going to happen. So, folks,
we as adults know that we've got to take a
stand beyond political We have a Christian foundation in America
and that's where I think we have to get back
to family, faith, unity, the right thing. It's just incredible
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what happened. And you know, I go back to here's
one thing that Charlie said and I wrote it down.
It was just so profound. If you believe in something,
you need to have the courage to fight for those ideas,
not run away from them or try to silence them. Now,
it doesn't mean radical harm. That means good beliefs, good faith,
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ethically and morally, and that's what he stood behind. What
are you say about all that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, absolutely. I mean Charlie Kirk was an incredible speaker,
He was an incredible motivator, and he had a connection
on those campuses. He was able to bring people information
without he was never I mean, I've watched so many
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of his videos. I've been watching Charlie Kirk for years
now as he's kind of, you know, come come up
thirty one years old. What he's accomplished was incredible. But
one of the things that I always noticed about Charlie
Kirk was he never went off and was like, oh
dear good. I mean, even when some of these people
would just say things and they would be really rude
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and kind of, you know, very forceful, he let them.
He empowered them to say there, you know, to be
who they were. He didn't shut that down. But he
would come back to them and be like, okay, now
let me speak. This is why, and this is where
this comes from. And he could lead them in that direction.
And I think that's why he resonated with so many
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of them, is because he came from it as a
point of sensible and he came from it rationally. He
wasn't like, oh my goodness, you're so stupid, shut up,
you know, or once they started talking, now you know,
as they kind of shout into your face. He never
did any of that. I think it was just incredible
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what he's done. And I really do pray for those
who were in Turning Point USA. You know that that
they that they move that forward, that they take that
spirit of Charlie Kirk and push that forward, because we can't.
We can't let that stop. We can't let what happened
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here bring fear, to shut people down, to silence people.
Nor can we tolerate it or normalize it and say, okay,
well we can't go on campuses or whatever, and we
can't have fear. We can't be afraid. You know, we
have to stand forward and move forward. But Charlie Kirk
was an incredible person and his influence upon those will
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only make his legacy stronger. They may have assassinated, I
believe with all my heart this was a targeted as
fascination of Charlie Kirk. But what they did is they
he is a martyr. He stood up for his beliefs,
He stood up for what was right. He did not
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back down, he did not do it and hate. He
brought forth the best of what there was and they
killed him for speaking truth and for free speech. So
we have to be boldened because Charlie would have been boldened.
I bet Charlie would have been out there if this
was somebody else Charlie would have out there today saying okay,
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move forward, you know, don't shut down, don't shut it out,
use this, Let's move forward.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And that's what rebel. Can you put the picture up
of Charlie, the picture they have of him under the tent.
I want to see this picture. I'm going to read
something and share this with you from a dear friend,
doctor taw Bram. He said, maybe the most startling thing
about Charlie's death is so few of the mainstream majority
realized this was yet another attack on Christianity. It was
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an attack on a spokesperson and a leader, a role
model of Christian life. Over the few years, churches and
Christians around the world have been attacked, burned to the ground.
They are acts of organized global terrorism. It's not just
the attackers that need to be hunted down and stopped,
it's the leaders. If you look at this picture, folks,
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what does that say It does prove me wrong? Well,
so far we haven't proven him wrong, have we. And
what we do need to do, like you just said, Mick,
we need to carry on, stand strong, and we need
to drive this mission even harder. So if you think
you're going to take down Charlie Kirk, come on and
bring it. You're going to have to take down all
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of us, because it is this one nation under God
and my watch, on your watch, and anybody else who
wants to stand with Charlie and turning point, come on
and bring us down, because we're not going to go down.
Bring it no way, prove us wrong. Love that, yeah,
and I'm bring it. Bring it big, man, bring it big, because.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
You know what, there's too many of us.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
We just have to be faster than the slowest runner.
And by God, baby, you know I can run and
I will run and fight the fight. This man was
thirty one years old. He was just about to come
upon another birthday, and you all stole it from him.
You stole his life, You stole his family's life, you
stole his future. But everything that he spoke on and
this we talked about this earlier today. Now we need
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to lift him up even more. Share the videos, there's many,
Share these with your children, Share these with your friends.
Don't live in fear, live in faith, And how can
we heal forward from this? You need to stand with Charlie.
You need to lift him up, and you need to
be bold. Tears. I get it, but get past the tears.
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Be bold. There is one nation under God. We do
not have to be the melting pot of religions that
are not bound in faith and in God only. And
if they are, go back to where you want to
practice that faith. But we are a Judeo Christian society
here by our forefathers, under the Constitution, under the flag,
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under God. That's where we are indivisible. And that's what
I do want to share with people. You know, there's
a couple things more we want to share. But if
you're hurting, if you don't know what to do, if
this is terrorizing to you, this is the worst part
because this is what they want, just like pandemic. Here
we go, folks, here's another shot of fear. Yesterday was fear.
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Today's the memory of nine to eleven. Fear, fear, fear.
You know what you do to fear? You fight it?
What did Trump say? Fight? Fight? Fight? Kirk say fight,
and he fought, he fighted. They took him down down.
And if you haven't gotten yourself the latest copy of
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a Bible, y'all need to get yourself won and you
need to start reading it because if you think Charlie's wrong.
Even my dogs are acting up to it. They're like, yeah,
Mommy speak that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Represent mom, that's right because they know.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
What it soap ups. But you have to live in
faith books. That's where you're again. You know, we've done
a lot with COVID, you and I apparently gotten I
apologize folks. However, it's one hour a week. In the
one hour a week they've decided to let us know,
you need to stand strong in your faith, and you
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need to I can't even believe it out of the mouths.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Of dogs, that's right.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
While I while I quiet them down, take it away.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Okay, you have to say, well, you know what I
what I did want to talk about, and I'm trying
to pull this up right now.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
There's a few things that you know, I think need
to kind of be evaluated as as we're moving through
and we're talking about all of this, the murder of
you know, assassination of Charlie Kirk and and and really,
I mean, you know what happened here? How did that happen?
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They're still looking for the killer, and I just kind
of wanted to bring this out because this is a
couple of things has come up, and I think this
is kind of a weird o rama. I wonder if
any of the people out there in your audience might
actually have any information on this. But it says that UH.
And this has been multiple multiple people that have said
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there was UH and they showed it online. They showed
the receipts. New York Times and LA Times reported that
Charlie Kirk was shot on September ninth, the day before
his assassination. There was Amazon books that had been posted
on nine to nine the day before, and it was
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the shooting of Charlie Kirk. There was a gentleman who
they showed in the crowd. Now, maybe he was just
somebody who really wanted to just he hated on Charlie Kirk.
The moment that he saw that they pulled Charlie Kirk off,
he's like waving his arms and he's like yeah, you know,
I mean, it's just it's just weird. This is odd behavior, Patty.
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You know these people who eyewitnesses in the crowd, Now
this is claims from Alex Jones. People in the crowd
claimed they knew that Charlie Kirk was about to be killed.
And then of course I think a lot of us
have seen the post of that one gentleman who said, oh,
Charlie Kirk's coming to my town. You know, we hope that,
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you know, something really bad is going to happen. It's like,
are you are you kidding me with this? I mean,
this is ridiculousness. So I think that's something that we
need to kind of maybe touch on because you know,
we're is this a sigh up? What's happening here? Is
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that the FBI? Is it the CIA? Are they actually
taking him down? I mean, to me, this was a
silence of free speech. He was speaking the truth truth?
But wow, how does that happen in Amazon?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And was it a slip? Was it somebody on the
inside who was part of what was going on and
just wanted to get the word out about Who knows?
But you're right, how do these things happen? And we
always said tell a vision something was remiss, something just
didn't add up. And the video I think I shared
and you guys could probably find it on Facebook. But
you know, there's actually a video where somebody caught this
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guy next to Charlie and there's a couple of hand
signals and it was not sign language as if he's
motioning to the guy. And then there's another video that
actually shows Charlie appeared to have a bulletproof vest on.
We don't know. It appeared like the bullet hit the
vest and deflect into his neck. One we don't know.
I'm not a science friensic specialist, but there's so much
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we don't know. But yet it was calculated, It was sinister,
and it wasn't some pimple faced college kid that's angry
with the little bag and blue hair. Was it to
drive that group of people to go, yeah, fight for us,
you know? I mean, I don't know, but it definitely.
It just it speaks volumes of what goes on well
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above us folks, in a level that probably none of
us would ever even be aware or exposed to. And
it does make you wonder, like you said, neck, really,
where where did all this come from? Where did all
this come from?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
That's crazy and it is Oh, go ahead, I'm sorry,
it is.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I was just going to say, you know, when you
were talking about it, and I just say, you know,
God Family Country, you know, I mean, you know, bring
God Family Country back, you know, when you're talking about that,
I mean I think that this goes back to that.
I think we need to have faith. We need to
be a people of prayer, We need to be a
people of faith, But we also need to be a
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people of wisdom and discernment. And I think we need
to look at everything that goes on around us. I
think we should question everything that goes on around us
and really what's going into the world, you know, social media,
whatever it be. But I so think that in this
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moment in time, this speaks volumes to those of us
who are in the movement. I think it says volumes
to say, do not be afraid. I have to keep
going back to that move forward. We can't stop, we can't.
We have to be Charlie. We have to. You know,
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his shirt said freedom. We are free if we shut up,
if we back down, if we are silent and do
not bring up any of this and go on the
full you know megaphone with it, then then his death
was in vain. And so I don't think we can
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do that.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, let's show this clip, Rebel. This is one of
many of Charlie's videos, and I want to show you
how he touched lines. Take a listen to this and
we'll talk right after.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Hate you, but just ask you for some advice. I
married my beautiful wife last year at the age of
twenty two, and I just want to say I respect
and admire I've been watching from a distance how your
ability to lead your family, your beautiful wife, your beautiful children,
and as a young man pursuing a marriage, I just
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want to ask if you had any advice on how
I can pursue and maintain a God centered marriage for the.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Well life, and thank you for that. Number One, God
must always come first. From your spiritual disciplines, honor the Sabbaths,
and turn off your phone for one day a week.
Go to a church, a good Bible based church. We
have many of the pastors here that teach the Word
of God verse by verse. And also understand that it's
external things of the flesh like alcohol or porn or
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drugs or other temptations that will take down your marriage.
You as the husband, must constantly be at guard of
things and also over shopping, over indulgence, too much credit cards,
idolatry of vacations. You must guard the family from those
things seeping in. So understand the order. It's God and
then the marriage and those things will bless your marriage
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from the devil who tries to undermine it and usurp
your holy union.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I love it, Thank you God, bless you Man, Thank you.
And I'm not here to debate you.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
But that's it. How could anybody be against that? Who
against that? That's the problem with our society today. A
man is the inherent issue. We've stopped the nuclear component
of being a man and woman and raising up our children.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Right, yeah, yeah, destroy the destroy the nuclear family. Take
God out of everything, and and you will unravel your society.
And and we are we see an and unraveling that
has happened, which I think is so important. Why we
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need to go back and come at things from a
biblical perspective and use this as the ability to lift
our voices higher. You know, I I think you know
that was one of the things when there was a
video clip and I don't have it on me right now,
but the gentleman said, hey, you know, tomorrow, you know
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what would what what do you want your you know,
he didn't say tomorrow, but he said, what do you
want your legacy to be? And Charlie said, what you
mean if I And they were like yeah, and he
was like, I want to be known as a man
of faith, a man who held to his faith. And
I think that sums it all up. We have to
be people of faith. We have to come back to God,
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be a praying people. Have no fear. God didn't give
us the spirit of fear. You know, he didn't give
us the ability to be timid. No, you know, he
wants to love our neighbors, you know, love ourselves, you know,
go out, make disciples, talk to people. And that's what
Charlie did. You know. People might not say, you know,
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he wasn't preaching at them, but he was giving them
the principles to build and to look at what they're
doing in their lives and to answer their questions. And
I think we're going to find out that he really
did touch thousands and thousands and thousands of youth across
those campuses.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I think so. And you know, not only that, but
his legacy now is going to live on. We will
now make him even greater than he was because like
Martin Luther King, like John F. Kennedy, like people that
lost their lives for speaking the truth. You can't show
me anything that Charlie hadn't said on video or in person.
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That isn't making someone a better person or a better family. Nothing.
He didn't judge people. They tried to misquote and take
things out of context to try to say, well, he
said this, but you didn't listen to the whole story,
you know. And so I think that's what we need
to do. We need to lift him up. And I
think I said it on your show, what would Charlie Do?
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I'm going to get me a T shirt what would
Charlie Do? And I'm going to wear it proud to
be in the faces of people. And like we also shared,
you know, when we're dealing with people that would actually
mock or laugh or have anything joyful about what happened yesterday,
you've got to really look in the mirror. And those
folks have some type of mental instability to have any
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rational thought taking another human life through that means, you know,
it's just it's immoral, it's unethical, it's heinous, and those
are the demons that live among us. And with respect
to the mental health community, you know, I applaud people
who come and get help, and I applaud people who
know when they're not feeling themselves. And we do have
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to treat them, and we want to treat them. But
if we develop this tolerance, oh that's just you know
Bo and he has a hot head. Oh you don't
want to make Marry or Bill angry because they'll punch
a wall or they might hurt you. If we have
to back away from people because we're afraid, it's tolerance.
We need to stand strong. We need to be calm,
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we need to be confident. We need to guide these
people to get help or guide someone that they know
that's close to them. Hey, do you know what they've
been sane lately? Perhaps maybe you can help them. And
let's start with God first and forem go to church.
It doesn't cost you anything. Sit in a chair, sit
in a pew, listen to the message. Maybe that's your
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first step to mental wellness. Get right with God. It
truly is. I have no comparison to some of the
people who've had loss or trategy in the world, But
for every ounce of my being, people ask me, well,
how did you get so positive? How do you stay
so strong? Faith and faith alone? Because my own weakness,
it'd be easy for me to kind of roll over
(30:29):
and crumble, but I won't. I refuse to. And that's
why I'm so glad you and I partnered up today
because this is exactly what we're about. I'm certainly not
a Charlie Kirk, but we two or more together, we
confirm it, we speak it. We will make a difference,
however small, one person each day. But folks, if you're upset,
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if you're afraid, if you're sad, if you don't know
what to do, bring something forward to help someone else.
Bring your kindness, bring your joy, bring your faith. And
if you're weak, if you're weary, if you're sad, if
you're low, reach out, get help. It's also National Suicide
Prevention Month. That doesn't mean if you're at your last
(31:13):
wits end, dial ninety eight, reach out. Someone will talk
to you. It's the first step. No one will come
to your door, no one will take you away. But
we have got to solve this mental derangement problem with
good borrows and values, and we have got to face fear.
Don't turn your back on fear, folks, that's what they
(31:34):
want you to do. I think we mentioned, you know
in the subway murder. She got into the subway and
sat down and was on her phone. Right you don't
do that when you're in a public place. Again, not
because you want to think everybody's a bad person, but
let's just face it, you've got to use your eyes
and ears to be smart. You've got to be somewhat
(31:55):
street smart. There's just a lot of people in the
world today. Perhaps had she sat another chair up, or
she sat up and she was looking around. You know,
when I go out from a dark, darking lot at night,
I walk with my shoulders up and my arms out,
and I have my arms free in case I need
to turn quickly an elbow or chuck or knee up
or whatever. Why because nobody's been taking you down without
(32:18):
a darn good fight, you know, and you have to
protect yourself. But we have to be smart. We have
to teach our kids how to be smart, you know,
young girls, young boy. We've got to start teaching our youth.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
And no one how to do something, how to do something,
you know, just like Irena, you know who was on
the light rail, the lady who was burned to death
in the subway, you know, and nobody does anything, Nobody stops,
you know. They the children. Not this last shooting in Minnesota,
but I think it was the Tennessee one where they
(32:53):
were videotaping the children who were on the ground, and
I'm like, they're just walking by videotaping, and I'm like,
we have got to learn that. We have got to
stop the desensitization. We've got to stop the tolerance. We've
got to stop normalizing this and get involved. I can
(33:14):
tell you right now my husband hates it because I
will just if I see something going on, like I'm
jumping in the middle of it, you know, And he's like,
you know, Mick, don't do that. But you know, you
you have to do something. We can't just allow people
to be out there who were hurt, who were hurt
and defenseless, just like Irena who was sitting there, you know, frightened,
(33:38):
and everybody just kind of walks past her and she
bleeds to help, you know, No, no, stop, And let
me just say this. I'm just gonna go one further.
The guy who was out in the crowd, and look,
I'm not trying to say be vigilantes. Okay, that's not
what I'm saying here, you know, But what I am
saying is the guy who was out in the crowd
who's like, yeah, when Charlie Kirk, whether he understood or not.
(34:04):
Can somebody please get around this gentleman and say, wait
a minute, why why are you sele? Somebody was just killed?
You know, is there something going on in this people,
in these people's heads, you know, somebody rangement? Yes, yes,
we have to point these people out. Hey, that guy
(34:25):
right over there, he's yelling and jumping and carrying on.
He's celebrating the death. Maybe there's nothing to it, but
come on, you know, I mean then it's all over
the internet. Who is this guy? Who is this guy?
People around you need to see something, say something, do
something your seriously. I can tell you right now. If
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you if Patty, if you were on the subway and
I saw something happen to you, I'd be like, wh
you know, coming after it, because that's what we used
to do.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, I broke my hand in eighth grade. For another girl,
take a look at this quote. I pulled this up
off of a Facebook and I just thought it was
beautifully written. When a man is silenced by bullets for
dare to speak. The lesson is not to quiet ourselves.
It's to understand that conviction is worth any cost. Power
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fears the voice that refuses to bend, because a single
truth can outlive the body that carried it. To speak
what you believe in the face of threat is not defiance.
It is survival of the soul. And if your words
are enough to be hunted, then they are too important
to be buried in silence. Rest easy, Charlie. I love that,
(35:44):
and all of us who stand with Charlie need to
take that. Be bold, be strong, because what other purpose
is there for us in life but to make a difference.
People that don't want to make a difference. When to
sit back and collect a check and have somebody take
care of them. That isn't me, And if it's anybody
out there, well that's a pretty boring existence. We are
(36:05):
here to make a difference, folks. We are here to
make a difference. And I love that quote. I think
we should all live by it. I did want to
give recognition to his to his mother and father, we
haven't heard a lot about them. I did read that
his mom was a mental health counselor. I did read
his dad as an architect. But I will tell you
that young man was given some good foundation. And with
(36:28):
that good foundation, let those parents be proud they raised
a hero, They raised a man of God, and God
bless his wife and his two kids also. But I'll
tell you what, Mom and Dad, What a shield to carry?
What a shield carry? That's what we should be grieving for.
If anybody out there is grieving because they're afraid again,
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take a look in the mirror. What did you lose yesterday? Okay,
it's hard, it's painful, and I cry for Charlie. But
what I do cry for is what a beautiful man
they raised. And someone or a group of someone took
the life out of him for speaking the truth. And
that makes me angry. That makes me stand up for Charlie,
(37:12):
and I hope we all stand up for Charlie. Carry
his name on and carrie everything that he shared, get
the videos folks throw all over, and I think that
can be a wonderful way to heal. What better way
to heal than to learn from some of the things
he shared. You know why, here's the best part Nick
think about it. I am not as smart as Charlie,
(37:33):
but when I heard how he fought back against some
of the things people said, it was very helpful because
now when somebody challenges me on certain things, I'm going
to say, oh yeah, what about that? And what about that?
And he had the gift of just good debate, but
he had facts.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
It was beautiful, it was he had. He did a
lot of what I call constructive dialogue. It's really kind
of a form of conversation. It's where you have people
with different perspectives and they just want to kind of
understand each other, so they don't abandon their own beliefs,
(38:11):
but what they do is in order to coexist, to
learn and to live from each other and with each other,
you have these conversations and it's very It's a tool
that's used when you're discussing things that are important or complex,
or you know, things that often divide people. And Charlie,
(38:33):
you know, jumped into those areas and God bless him
for doing that. That's what he was doing. He was
simply doing constructive dialogue. He was communicating, and for that
he was assassinated. So, you know, going to those campuses
and engaging in open debate with all of them, encouraging
(38:58):
and empowering them to speak. I really do pray that
we can all be like Charlie, Charlie Kirk and move
this forward and never let it be silent, because never
let us be silenced. Because Charlie Kirk even said it
himself that you know, he goes on college campuses and
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he talks to these people because when dialogue and when conversation,
when discourse starts, that's when killing starts. And so we
can't let it stop.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
You know, you got to wonder, and if rebel you
can pull up that last video, you got to wonder.
He must have really pissed off somebody big, somebody big
to be very threatened. If we can take a look
at this video, folks, I just love what he shared
to this thirteen year old little girl. Take a listen.
That's my friend, Louisa Clary. She pulled it up.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
What advice do you have for me as I move
into adulthood in order to become a more informed and
involved citizen.
Speaker 7 (40:06):
Well, first of all, thank you for being here, and
I have hope thanks to people like you. How old
are you again? Thirteen thirteen? Here's a couple of things
I want to encourage you to do. Learn something new
every single day, and focus on what it means to
be a good person and a person in a strong character.
Aristotle said that courage is the ultimate virtue about it,
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there are no other virtues. If people aren't courageous, you
don't have honesty, you don't have justice, you don't beauty,
you don't have wonder. And so, at age thirteen, I
want you to commit yourself to a life of courage.
Courage is doing the right thing when you don't know
how it's going to work out. Courage is committing yourself
to the correct course of action, regardless of the cost
associated to it. Every human being, I believe, is made
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in the emitts of the divine, is sacred, is unique.
And if we get away from this principle as we have,
we not only have moral degradation, we not only have
the collapsing society around us, but it's bad for that
being itself. That being its elf is unique, that being
has rights. And who are we to say, just because
we're older, that we get to murder it.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Thank you, She's precious, isn't that something? It's just precious.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Every ounce of his being was trying to help people
find the light through faith, and that's what we have
to carry on. I hope that we can inspire people
today to lift up, Charlie, lift yourself up, get yourself
up and get yourself out, start getting involved, and don't
be tolerant. I want people to just find a way
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daily to connect with God and don't back down on faith.
It's that important. It's that important. Nick. Anything you want
to add before we close out the day.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
I just want, I just want to echo that. To
not be afraid. You know, you may have people who
you know speak badly to you on social media, or
speak badly to you on at your face, or they
shut the door in your face when you're trying to
talk to them or whatever screen you down. It doesn't matter.
(42:14):
Keep going back, keep being a light, but protect yourself.
Please be aware of what's going on around you, and
if you can, double up. Don't go alone. Don't be alone.
I know I go and do these move ons and
all of these little you know, they're no Trump, you know, king,
(42:36):
no kings or whatever, and people go, don't go by yourself,
and you know I probably will start taking somebody with
me because we can't stop. Do not be afraid. Do
not be afraid.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Aimen to that A sorry, yes, Charlie. We are going
to carry on, and I know Turning Point is definitely
going to carry on. In even bigger ways. And I
think through sadly, the untimely assassination of Charlie is going
to bring on even a bigger movement, bigger than MAGA,
(43:10):
and so it's really going to make the enemy mad.
And I think, again, folks, we got one life, We
got one life to live. I would rather be bold
and go out with the blaze than just lay there
and wait for the clock to tick until I turn
one hundred and twenty four, because I got a lot
to do and hopefully I'll get a lot of time
to get it done. But I really think that if
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you're out there and you're hurting, if you don't know
what to say to your children, if you don't know
what to do, share the videos of Charlie. Let Charlie
speak with the videos out there. You watch the videos.
If you're struggling, if you're hurting, if this is only
exacerbated or further trauma for you, if you're alone, get
with someone, Get with a counselor get with a therapist.
(43:53):
We talked about ninety eight eight. There's lots of things
that we can suggest for you on this show or
prior shows. You know, we're live today, but these shows
do get recorded. You can always tune into them on iHeartRadio.
Just google up wellness and censored with Patty g. Being
in the mental health profession has been one of the
biggest blessings for me because through life and through some
(44:15):
of the difficulty that I've been through, people can be
very cruel and whether you've been in a workplace issue,
a family issue, an emotional relationship issue, mental health, there's
really good people out there to help you get strong
and get on your feet again. And it's so important
(44:35):
to build your faith, not build your tolerance, not to
build your fear. And I think if we add anything
to the rest of the story today, that's the bigger
message is Charlie tried to tell us, and we're going
to continue to live through what he did share and
we're going to go from beyond that. But build your faith.
(44:56):
Money comes and goes, friendships may come in go, but
if you start right with your faith, you can build
everything from there. And again, if you don't have someone
to talk to, look for a counselor there's lots of
different groups out there that you can get one. I
know that with Charlie. One of the other things was
to lead you led a good spirited life and you
(45:18):
talked about college. He didn't mean it in a bad way.
But you don't have to be the rocket scientist to
be a good person, right, And so because of that,
I want you guys to just take a second look,
look in the mirror, and what can you do to
live a good life like Charlie? And what can you
do to spread the word. We're just going to leave
(45:40):
it there, and in the last moment, if you guys
need to reach out, that's my QRS code. You can
find me at magnoliabwellness dot com And the QRS code
actually talks a little bit about my book. My book
is they call me Harriet, and that's my journey of
faith not fear. And when you tie all that we've
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been through in the last four or five years, it's
important to know that through all of this we have
to be able to stay strong, stay the course. My
dogs are preaching it, and you guys have a wonderful
rest of your day. Look for us next Thursday, three
pm Eastern Wellness uncensored, Be well, be strong, and like
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Charlie and Trump, say fight fight, fight, God bless you all,
God bless you Charlie
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Now, Hey, good afternoon, and welcome to another episode of
Wellness and Censored. My name is Patty G. I am
a psychiatric nurse practitioner, and I am here today to
share just a really heavy heart in talking with all
of you about what has happened, what has happened to
(00:51):
this country, what has happened to this world as we
all have experienced and in some way or another morning
loss of Charlie Kirk. Afternoon, I was just getting into
my car and I always turn in some afternoon talk radio,
and when I started to hear what the announcements were,
I just couldn't even believe what I was hearing. It
was fairly surreal. And as the hours passed, and you know,
(01:14):
shortly thereafter, as I was listening to the newscast on
a couple of different stations, it was he's alive, He's alive,
He's in critical condition, And then there were mixed reports
of it he was actually alive or if he was passed,
and everybody wanted to be the first to the story
with the news. And as I listened to it all unfold,
it was just it was so surreal and the outcome
(01:38):
we were all holding on for what the possible outcome
was going to be, and it really shook me. You know,
I'm in the world. I'm in the business of psychiatric health,
mental health, mental illness, and I've been talking to you
for the last few weeks about some of the actual illnesses, disturbances,
irregular patterns of behavior that we have all come to
(02:01):
treat with social acceptance of people being different and divergent
and woke, and yet we have become so desensitized to
shootings and killings. And yesterday, right after this all happened,
I stopped my car in a shopping plaza and was
(02:22):
watching people come and go, and it became very clear
to me how desensitized people have become. And I'm going
to give them the benefit of the doubt, because when
I called back over to my office, nobody really knew
what happened. Because we're so busy, we're taking care of patients,
we're not listening to the news or the TV or
the radio, but yet looking around me, people were going
(02:43):
about their life, and I really found that disturbing. You know,
today we mourn over nine to eleven. Do you all
remember where you were? I remember specifically where I was
in a classroom teaching nursing students, and they rolled the
TV in to the classroom and we all stood in
(03:03):
disbelief as we watched the second plane hit the towers.
Of course, now here we are years later, and we've
learned so many things more about the explosion and the
crash and whatever you want to call it, and I'm
sure years from now, hopefully not years, hopefully hours or days,
we're going to find out what really happened and how
Charlie Kirk was assassinated yesterday around just before twelve noon
(03:29):
in Utah at a college in a predominantly calm, nonviolent
city and state. And yet it's happening all over the country,
and so it shook me enough that I felt it
would be important. My friend and colleague Mick Rosatto does
a podcast as well. I was just on her show
(03:50):
a few minutes ago. We spoke for the last almost hour,
and I wanted to bring her on today because there's
so much that we want to talk to you about
in terms of one heal and we've got to start
to look at this with fresh eyes. This is not
the new norm, and we need to really get our
priorities straight. But while we're dealing and reeling with the
(04:11):
math and the aftermath of what's happened and kind of
calming our persons down and calming our family down, and
what do we tell our children, I wanted to talk
today just about some of the things we've heard, hopefully
to help many of you. This is a trauma, this
is a shock to many people. Yet there were actually
people out there mocking and saying very unpleasant things, kind
(04:33):
evil things, and we wanted to talk about that too.
So I wanted you to enjoy hearing from my friend Mick. Matt,
why don't you come join us, tell us a little
bit about all that's near and dear to you. Tell
us what you were thinking, what went through your mind
yesterday as we learned about Charlie Kirk. Where were you,
what was going on and what what did this shock
(04:53):
wave bring to you?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
So I was at home and I was working on
a few things that I needed to get done. As
we're trying to get criminal investigations open into the COVID
hospital protocols. I'm connecting with attorney generals, I'm connecting with legislators.
I'm connecting with anybody who will listen and who will
(05:18):
help us as we move forward to ensure accountability and
justice occurs in that, you know, this whole thing, this
whole debacle which COVID, that's another story for another day.
But the aftermath of that, when I heard the news
that Charlie Kirk had been shot, and of course I
just started going through all of my chats, I started
(05:42):
looking at news. I started, you know, trying to you know,
there was the like you said, there was a lot
of back and forth. People were saying already that he
had died. There was that graphic video that came out
where you could see that clearly he had been shot
his artery, you know, is carotid artery or his jugular
just you know, you could just tell when he was
(06:05):
shot that it was going to be devastating. And I'll
tell you the very first thing I did was I prayed.
I prayed that Charlie Kirk would be okay, and I
prayed for his family. I prayed for those people who
were there at the Utah University because at that time
I didn't know if this was just one It sounded
(06:26):
like one shot, but we don't know you like you said,
we're kind of in a crazy world right now. And
then after that I started posting because you know, I
was like, wait, wait, now, this seems like you know,
this is tragic, this is you know. I mean, yes,
there's a lot that needs to be sorted out. But
(06:46):
one thing that ran true to me was that they
were Charlie was someone who was definitely about having a dialogue.
He wanted to have constructive diet with people. He brought,
He went to their campuses, He offered them the microphone,
he allowed them, he talked to them, he engaged them.
(07:09):
To me, this was automatically in my head, is like
they did they kill him to silence him? Did they
assassinate him to shut him up or shut him down?
And whether it was for Charlie himself and it because
I believe this was a targeted political assassination, or whether
(07:30):
it was a message to be sent out to all
that was my first thing is that we have to
find the strength within ourselves to pray and to grieve,
but we have to understand that this is something that
is happening across the nation and we cannot allow it
to shut us down and make us fearful and bring
(07:52):
some sort of psychological bioterrorism like they did during COVID,
so that we all retreat back. No more retreating back.
Charlie Kirk wouldn't retreat back. And I think he brought
a lot of wisdom and discernment to the youth, and
I really pray that they that as the days go forward,
(08:14):
that that turning point, USA moves forward under under those
who learned and were mentored under Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, thanks for that. I think that's just so true.
I mean, you know, you and I are both nurses,
and we've we've been through so much over the years
in healthcare and trauma and tragedy. You know, you did
mention and we won't focus on the pandemic today, but
this has become a culmination. It was a precursor of
all the traumatic events that have happened to people in
(08:47):
our world and in society. And what is just most
shocking to me is that we've become so desensitized and
in doing so that citization. We just people were just
going about their day and going about things that you know,
(09:09):
we got used to things with COVID, we got used
to masking, not that many of us liked it, And
now hear a voice of life, of God of the world,
and he was assassinated and people actually mocked it, people
actually said things. It's just incredible to me. It's just
incredible to me. And you know, I just don't understand
(09:34):
how anybody couldn't have been moved yesterday. I just don't
understand it. And yet with all that has gone on
in the world, does anybody else besides us? I mean,
I know there's a lot of people out there. The
tolerance has got to stop, the tolerance for dysfunctional behavior,
and we've allowed it. We talked on your show just
(09:56):
a few minutes ago about all the types of murders
and killings, and it's happening and happening and happening. We
keep saying we've got to stop it, but we've allowed
people that are ill. And I won't even say ill
as an excuse. What happened to Charlie yesterday was a
calculated assassination and that is not an illness, because when
(10:18):
you're ill, you do things you don't realize. This was
planned and planned by multiple people. The girl from the
Ukraine on the subway. Yeah, Irena, Marina. You know the
guy had fourteen prior convictions, So what made you think
(10:40):
this number fifteen was never going to happen. So, folks,
we as adults know that we've got to take a
stand beyond political We have a Christian foundation in America
and that's where I think we have to get back
to family, faith, unity, the right thing. It's just incredible
(11:01):
what happened. And you know, I go back to here's
one thing that Charlie said and I wrote it down.
It was just so profound. If you believe in something,
you need to have the courage to fight for those ideas,
not run away from them or try to silence them. Now,
it doesn't mean radical harm. That means good beliefs, good faith,
(11:27):
ethically and morally, and that's what he stood behind. What
are you say about all that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, absolutely. I mean Charlie Kirk was an incredible speaker,
He was an incredible motivator, and he had a connection
on those campuses. He was able to bring people information
without he was never I mean, I've watched so many
(11:56):
of his videos. I've been watching Charlie Kirk for years
now as he's kind of, you know, come come up
thirty one years old. What he's accomplished was incredible. But
one of the things that I always noticed about Charlie
Kirk was he never went off and was like, oh
dear good. I mean, even when some of these people
would just say things and they would be really rude
(12:19):
and kind of, you know, very forceful, he let them.
He empowered them to say there, you know, to be
who they were. He didn't shut that down. But he
would come back to them and be like, okay, now
let me speak. This is why, and this is where
this comes from. And he could lead them in that direction.
And I think that's why he resonated with so many
(12:43):
of them, is because he came from it as a
point of sensible and he came from it rationally. He
wasn't like, oh my goodness, you're so stupid, shut up,
you know, or once they started talking, now you know,
as they kind of shout into your face. He never
did any of that. I think it was just incredible
(13:03):
what he's done. And I really do pray for those
who were in Turning Point USA. You know that that
they that they move that forward, that they take that
spirit of Charlie Kirk and push that forward, because we can't.
We can't let that stop. We can't let what happened
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here bring fear, to shut people down, to silence people.
Nor can we tolerate it or normalize it and say, okay,
well we can't go on campuses or whatever, and we
can't have fear. We can't be afraid. You know, we
have to stand forward and move forward. But Charlie Kirk
was an incredible person and his influence upon those will
(13:50):
only make his legacy stronger. They may have assassinated, I
believe with all my heart this was a targeted as
fascination of Charlie Kirk. But what they did is they
he is a martyr. He stood up for his beliefs,
He stood up for what was right. He did not
(14:10):
back down, he did not do it and hate. He
brought forth the best of what there was and they
killed him for speaking truth and for free speech. So
we have to be boldened because Charlie would have been boldened.
I bet Charlie would have been out there if this
was somebody else Charlie would have out there today saying okay,
(14:34):
move forward, you know, don't shut down, don't shut it out,
use this, Let's move forward.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And that's what rebel. Can you put the picture up
of Charlie, the picture they have of him under the tent.
I want to see this picture. I'm going to read
something and share this with you from a dear friend,
doctor taw Bram. He said, maybe the most startling thing
about Charlie's death is so few of the mainstream majority
realized this was yet another attack on Christianity. It was
(15:02):
an attack on a spokesperson and a leader, a role
model of Christian life. Over the few years, churches and
Christians around the world have been attacked, burned to the ground.
They are acts of organized global terrorism. It's not just
the attackers that need to be hunted down and stopped,
it's the leaders. If you look at this picture, folks,
(15:24):
what does that say It does prove me wrong? Well,
so far we haven't proven him wrong, have we. And
what we do need to do, like you just said, Mick,
we need to carry on, stand strong, and we need
to drive this mission even harder. So if you think
you're going to take down Charlie Kirk, come on and
bring it. You're going to have to take down all
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of us, because it is this one nation under God
and my watch, on your watch, and anybody else who
wants to stand with Charlie and turning point, come on
and bring us down, because we're not going to go down.
Bring it no way, prove us wrong. Love that, yeah,
and I'm bring it. Bring it big, man, bring it big, because.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
You know what, there's too many of us.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
We just have to be faster than the slowest runner.
And by God, baby, you know I can run and
I will run and fight the fight. This man was
thirty one years old. He was just about to come
upon another birthday, and you all stole it from him.
You stole his life, You stole his family's life, you
stole his future. But everything that he spoke on and
this we talked about this earlier today. Now we need
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to lift him up even more. Share the videos, there's many,
Share these with your children, Share these with your friends.
Don't live in fear, live in faith, And how can
we heal forward from this? You need to stand with Charlie.
You need to lift him up, and you need to
be bold. Tears. I get it, but get past the tears.
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Be bold. There is one nation under God. We do
not have to be the melting pot of religions that
are not bound in faith and in God only. And
if they are, go back to where you want to
practice that faith. But we are a Judeo Christian society
here by our forefathers, under the Constitution, under the flag,
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under God. That's where we are indivisible. And that's what
I do want to share with people. You know, there's
a couple things more we want to share. But if
you're hurting, if you don't know what to do, if
this is terrorizing to you, this is the worst part
because this is what they want, just like pandemic. Here
we go, folks, here's another shot of fear. Yesterday was fear.
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Today's the memory of nine to eleven. Fear, fear, fear.
You know what you do to fear? You fight it?
What did Trump say? Fight? Fight? Fight? Kirk say fight,
and he fought, he fighted. They took him down down.
And if you haven't gotten yourself the latest copy of
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a Bible, y'all need to get yourself won and you
need to start reading it because if you think Charlie's wrong.
Even my dogs are acting up to it. They're like, yeah,
Mommy speak that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Represent mom, that's right because they know.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
What it soap ups. But you have to live in
faith books. That's where you're again. You know, we've done
a lot with COVID, you and I apparently gotten I
apologize folks. However, it's one hour a week. In the
one hour a week they've decided to let us know,
you need to stand strong in your faith, and you
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need to I can't even believe it out of the mouths.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Of dogs, that's right.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
While I while I quiet them down, take it away.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Okay, you have to say, well, you know what I
what I did want to talk about, and I'm trying
to pull this up right now.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
There's a few things that you know, I think need
to kind of be evaluated as as we're moving through
and we're talking about all of this, the murder of
you know, assassination of Charlie Kirk and and and really,
I mean, you know what happened here? How did that happen?
(19:23):
They're still looking for the killer, and I just kind
of wanted to bring this out because this is a
couple of things has come up, and I think this
is kind of a weird o rama. I wonder if
any of the people out there in your audience might
actually have any information on this. But it says that UH.
And this has been multiple multiple people that have said
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there was UH and they showed it online. They showed
the receipts. New York Times and LA Times reported that
Charlie Kirk was shot on September ninth, the day before
his assassination. There was Amazon books that had been posted
on nine to nine the day before, and it was
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the shooting of Charlie Kirk. There was a gentleman who
they showed in the crowd. Now, maybe he was just
somebody who really wanted to just he hated on Charlie Kirk.
The moment that he saw that they pulled Charlie Kirk off,
he's like waving his arms and he's like yeah, you know,
I mean, it's just it's just weird. This is odd behavior, Patty.
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You know these people who eyewitnesses in the crowd, Now
this is claims from Alex Jones. People in the crowd
claimed they knew that Charlie Kirk was about to be killed.
And then of course I think a lot of us
have seen the post of that one gentleman who said, oh,
Charlie Kirk's coming to my town. You know, we hope that,
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you know, something really bad is going to happen. It's like,
are you are you kidding me with this? I mean,
this is ridiculousness. So I think that's something that we
need to kind of maybe touch on because you know,
we're is this a sigh up? What's happening here? Is
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that the FBI? Is it the CIA? Are they actually
taking him down? I mean, to me, this was a
silence of free speech. He was speaking the truth truth?
But wow, how does that happen in Amazon?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And was it a slip? Was it somebody on the
inside who was part of what was going on and
just wanted to get the word out about Who knows?
But you're right, how do these things happen? And we
always said tell a vision something was remiss, something just
didn't add up. And the video I think I shared
and you guys could probably find it on Facebook. But
you know, there's actually a video where somebody caught this
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guy next to Charlie and there's a couple of hand
signals and it was not sign language as if he's
motioning to the guy. And then there's another video that
actually shows Charlie appeared to have a bulletproof vest on.
We don't know. It appeared like the bullet hit the
vest and deflect into his neck. One we don't know.
I'm not a science friensic specialist, but there's so much
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we don't know. But yet it was calculated, It was sinister,
and it wasn't some pimple faced college kid that's angry
with the little bag and blue hair. Was it to
drive that group of people to go, yeah, fight for us,
you know? I mean, I don't know, but it definitely.
It just it speaks volumes of what goes on well
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above us folks, in a level that probably none of
us would ever even be aware or exposed to. And
it does make you wonder, like you said, neck, really,
where where did all this come from? Where did all
this come from?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
That's crazy and it is Oh, go ahead, I'm sorry,
it is.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I was just going to say, you know, when you
were talking about it, and I just say, you know,
God Family Country, you know, I mean, you know, bring
God Family Country back, you know, when you're talking about that,
I mean I think that this goes back to that.
I think we need to have faith. We need to
be a people of prayer, We need to be a
people of faith, But we also need to be a
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people of wisdom and discernment. And I think we need
to look at everything that goes on around us. I
think we should question everything that goes on around us
and really what's going into the world, you know, social media,
whatever it be. But I so think that in this
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moment in time, this speaks volumes to those of us
who are in the movement. I think it says volumes
to say, do not be afraid. I have to keep
going back to that move forward. We can't stop, we can't.
We have to be Charlie. We have to. You know,
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his shirt said freedom. We are free if we shut up,
if we back down, if we are silent and do
not bring up any of this and go on the
full you know megaphone with it, then then his death
was in vain. And so I don't think we can
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do that.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, let's show this clip, Rebel. This is one of
many of Charlie's videos, and I want to show you
how he touched lines. Take a listen to this and
we'll talk right after.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Hate you, but just ask you for some advice. I
married my beautiful wife last year at the age of
twenty two, and I just want to say I respect
and admire I've been watching from a distance how your
ability to lead your family, your beautiful wife, your beautiful children,
and as a young man pursuing a marriage, I just
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want to ask if you had any advice on how
I can pursue and maintain a God centered marriage for the.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Well life, and thank you for that. Number One, God
must always come first. From your spiritual disciplines, honor the Sabbaths,
and turn off your phone for one day a week.
Go to a church, a good Bible based church. We
have many of the pastors here that teach the Word
of God verse by verse. And also understand that it's
external things of the flesh like alcohol or porn or
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drugs or other temptations that will take down your marriage.
You as the husband, must constantly be at guard of
things and also over shopping, over indulgence, too much credit cards,
idolatry of vacations. You must guard the family from those
things seeping in. So understand the order. It's God and
then the marriage and those things will bless your marriage
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from the devil who tries to undermine it and usurp
your holy union.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I love it, Thank you God, bless you Man, Thank you.
And I'm not here to debate you.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
But that's it. How could anybody be against that? Who
against that? That's the problem with our society today. A
man is the inherent issue. We've stopped the nuclear component
of being a man and woman and raising up our children.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Right, yeah, yeah, destroy the destroy the nuclear family. Take
God out of everything, and and you will unravel your society.
And and we are we see an and unraveling that
has happened, which I think is so important. Why we
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need to go back and come at things from a
biblical perspective and use this as the ability to lift
our voices higher. You know, I I think you know
that was one of the things when there was a
video clip and I don't have it on me right now,
but the gentleman said, hey, you know, tomorrow, you know
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what would what what do you want your you know,
he didn't say tomorrow, but he said, what do you
want your legacy to be? And Charlie said, what you
mean if I And they were like yeah, and he
was like, I want to be known as a man
of faith, a man who held to his faith. And
I think that sums it all up. We have to
be people of faith. We have to come back to God,
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be a praying people. Have no fear. God didn't give
us the spirit of fear. You know, he didn't give
us the ability to be timid. No, you know, he
wants to love our neighbors, you know, love ourselves, you know,
go out, make disciples, talk to people. And that's what
Charlie did. You know. People might not say, you know,
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he wasn't preaching at them, but he was giving them
the principles to build and to look at what they're
doing in their lives and to answer their questions. And
I think we're going to find out that he really
did touch thousands and thousands and thousands of youth across
those campuses.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I think so. And you know, not only that, but
his legacy now is going to live on. We will
now make him even greater than he was because like
Martin Luther King, like John F. Kennedy, like people that
lost their lives for speaking the truth. You can't show
me anything that Charlie hadn't said on video or in person.
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That isn't making someone a better person or a better family. Nothing.
He didn't judge people. They tried to misquote and take
things out of context to try to say, well, he
said this, but you didn't listen to the whole story,
you know. And so I think that's what we need
to do. We need to lift him up. And I
think I said it on your show, what would Charlie Do?
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I'm going to get me a T shirt what would
Charlie Do? And I'm going to wear it proud to
be in the faces of people. And like we also shared,
you know, when we're dealing with people that would actually
mock or laugh or have anything joyful about what happened yesterday,
you've got to really look in the mirror. And those
folks have some type of mental instability to have any
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rational thought taking another human life through that means, you know,
it's just it's immoral, it's unethical, it's heinous, and those
are the demons that live among us. And with respect
to the mental health community, you know, I applaud people
who come and get help, and I applaud people who
know when they're not feeling themselves. And we do have
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to treat them, and we want to treat them. But
if we develop this tolerance, oh that's just you know
Bo and he has a hot head. Oh you don't
want to make Marry or Bill angry because they'll punch
a wall or they might hurt you. If we have
to back away from people because we're afraid, it's tolerance.
We need to stand strong. We need to be calm,
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we need to be confident. We need to guide these
people to get help or guide someone that they know
that's close to them. Hey, do you know what they've
been sane lately? Perhaps maybe you can help them. And
let's start with God first and forem go to church.
It doesn't cost you anything. Sit in a chair, sit
in a pew, listen to the message. Maybe that's your
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first step to mental wellness. Get right with God. It
truly is. I have no comparison to some of the
people who've had loss or trategy in the world, But
for every ounce of my being, people ask me, well,
how did you get so positive? How do you stay
so strong? Faith and faith alone? Because my own weakness,
it'd be easy for me to kind of roll over
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and crumble, but I won't. I refuse to. And that's
why I'm so glad you and I partnered up today
because this is exactly what we're about. I'm certainly not
a Charlie Kirk, but we two or more together, we
confirm it, we speak it. We will make a difference,
however small, one person each day. But folks, if you're upset,
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if you're afraid, if you're sad, if you don't know
what to do, bring something forward to help someone else.
Bring your kindness, bring your joy, bring your faith. And
if you're weak, if you're weary, if you're sad, if
you're low, reach out, get help. It's also National Suicide
Prevention Month. That doesn't mean if you're at your last
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wits end, dial ninety eight, reach out. Someone will talk
to you. It's the first step. No one will come
to your door, no one will take you away. But
we have got to solve this mental derangement problem with
good borrows and values, and we have got to face fear.
Don't turn your back on fear, folks, that's what they
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want you to do. I think we mentioned, you know
in the subway murder. She got into the subway and
sat down and was on her phone. Right you don't
do that when you're in a public place. Again, not
because you want to think everybody's a bad person, but
let's just face it, you've got to use your eyes
and ears to be smart. You've got to be somewhat
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street smart. There's just a lot of people in the
world today. Perhaps had she sat another chair up, or
she sat up and she was looking around. You know,
when I go out from a dark, darking lot at night,
I walk with my shoulders up and my arms out,
and I have my arms free in case I need
to turn quickly an elbow or chuck or knee up
or whatever. Why because nobody's been taking you down without
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a darn good fight, you know, and you have to
protect yourself. But we have to be smart. We have
to teach our kids how to be smart, you know,
young girls, young boy. We've got to start teaching our youth.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
And no one how to do something, how to do something,
you know, just like Irena, you know who was on
the light rail, the lady who was burned to death
in the subway, you know, and nobody does anything, Nobody stops,
you know. They the children. Not this last shooting in Minnesota,
but I think it was the Tennessee one where they
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were videotaping the children who were on the ground, and
I'm like, they're just walking by videotaping, and I'm like,
we have got to learn that. We have got to
stop the desensitization. We've got to stop the tolerance. We've
got to stop normalizing this and get involved. I can
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tell you right now my husband hates it because I
will just if I see something going on, like I'm
jumping in the middle of it, you know, And he's like,
you know, Mick, don't do that. But you know, you
you have to do something. We can't just allow people
to be out there who were hurt, who were hurt
and defenseless, just like Irena who was sitting there, you know, frightened,
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and everybody just kind of walks past her and she
bleeds to help, you know, No, no, stop, And let
me just say this. I'm just gonna go one further.
The guy who was out in the crowd, and look,
I'm not trying to say be vigilantes. Okay, that's not
what I'm saying here, you know, But what I am
saying is the guy who was out in the crowd
who's like, yeah, when Charlie Kirk, whether he understood or not.
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Can somebody please get around this gentleman and say, wait
a minute, why why are you sele? Somebody was just killed?
You know, is there something going on in this people,
in these people's heads, you know, somebody rangement? Yes, yes,
we have to point these people out. Hey, that guy
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right over there, he's yelling and jumping and carrying on.
He's celebrating the death. Maybe there's nothing to it, but
come on, you know, I mean then it's all over
the internet. Who is this guy? Who is this guy?
People around you need to see something, say something, do
something your seriously. I can tell you right now. If
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you if Patty, if you were on the subway and
I saw something happen to you, I'd be like, wh
you know, coming after it, because that's what we used
to do.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, I broke my hand in eighth grade. For another girl,
take a look at this quote. I pulled this up
off of a Facebook and I just thought it was
beautifully written. When a man is silenced by bullets for
dare to speak. The lesson is not to quiet ourselves.
It's to understand that conviction is worth any cost. Power
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fears the voice that refuses to bend, because a single
truth can outlive the body that carried it. To speak
what you believe in the face of threat is not defiance.
It is survival of the soul. And if your words
are enough to be hunted, then they are too important
to be buried in silence. Rest easy, Charlie. I love that,
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and all of us who stand with Charlie need to
take that. Be bold, be strong, because what other purpose
is there for us in life but to make a difference.
People that don't want to make a difference. When to
sit back and collect a check and have somebody take
care of them. That isn't me, And if it's anybody
out there, well that's a pretty boring existence. We are
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here to make a difference, folks. We are here to
make a difference. And I love that quote. I think
we should all live by it. I did want to
give recognition to his to his mother and father, we
haven't heard a lot about them. I did read that
his mom was a mental health counselor. I did read
his dad as an architect. But I will tell you
that young man was given some good foundation. And with
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that good foundation, let those parents be proud they raised
a hero, They raised a man of God, and God
bless his wife and his two kids also. But I'll
tell you what, Mom and Dad, What a shield to carry?
What a shield carry? That's what we should be grieving for.
If anybody out there is grieving because they're afraid again,
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take a look in the mirror. What did you lose yesterday? Okay,
it's hard, it's painful, and I cry for Charlie. But
what I do cry for is what a beautiful man
they raised. And someone or a group of someone took
the life out of him for speaking the truth. And
that makes me angry. That makes me stand up for Charlie,
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and I hope we all stand up for Charlie. Carry
his name on and carrie everything that he shared, get
the videos folks throw all over, and I think that
can be a wonderful way to heal. What better way
to heal than to learn from some of the things
he shared. You know why, here's the best part Nick
think about it. I am not as smart as Charlie,
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but when I heard how he fought back against some
of the things people said, it was very helpful because
now when somebody challenges me on certain things, I'm going
to say, oh yeah, what about that? And what about that?
And he had the gift of just good debate, but
he had facts.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
It was beautiful, it was he had. He did a
lot of what I call constructive dialogue. It's really kind
of a form of conversation. It's where you have people
with different perspectives and they just want to kind of
understand each other, so they don't abandon their own beliefs,
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but what they do is in order to coexist, to
learn and to live from each other and with each other,
you have these conversations and it's very It's a tool
that's used when you're discussing things that are important or complex,
or you know, things that often divide people. And Charlie,
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you know, jumped into those areas and God bless him
for doing that. That's what he was doing. He was
simply doing constructive dialogue. He was communicating, and for that
he was assassinated. So, you know, going to those campuses
and engaging in open debate with all of them, encouraging
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and empowering them to speak. I really do pray that
we can all be like Charlie, Charlie Kirk and move
this forward and never let it be silent, because never
let us be silenced. Because Charlie Kirk even said it
himself that you know, he goes on college campuses and
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he talks to these people because when dialogue and when conversation,
when discourse starts, that's when killing starts. And so we
can't let it stop.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
You know, you got to wonder, and if rebel you
can pull up that last video, you got to wonder.
He must have really pissed off somebody big, somebody big
to be very threatened. If we can take a look
at this video, folks, I just love what he shared
to this thirteen year old little girl. Take a listen.
That's my friend, Louisa Clary. She pulled it up.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
What advice do you have for me as I move
into adulthood in order to become a more informed and
involved citizen.
Speaker 7 (40:06):
Well, first of all, thank you for being here, and
I have hope thanks to people like you. How old
are you again? Thirteen thirteen? Here's a couple of things
I want to encourage you to do. Learn something new
every single day, and focus on what it means to
be a good person and a person in a strong character.
Aristotle said that courage is the ultimate virtue about it,
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there are no other virtues. If people aren't courageous, you
don't have honesty, you don't have justice, you don't beauty,
you don't have wonder. And so, at age thirteen, I
want you to commit yourself to a life of courage.
Courage is doing the right thing when you don't know
how it's going to work out. Courage is committing yourself
to the correct course of action, regardless of the cost
associated to it. Every human being, I believe, is made
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in the emitts of the divine, is sacred, is unique.
And if we get away from this principle as we have,
we not only have moral degradation, we not only have
the collapsing society around us, but it's bad for that
being itself. That being its elf is unique, that being
has rights. And who are we to say, just because
we're older, that we get to murder it.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Thank you, She's precious, isn't that something? It's just precious.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Every ounce of his being was trying to help people
find the light through faith, and that's what we have
to carry on. I hope that we can inspire people
today to lift up, Charlie, lift yourself up, get yourself
up and get yourself out, start getting involved, and don't
be tolerant. I want people to just find a way
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daily to connect with God and don't back down on faith.
It's that important. It's that important. Nick. Anything you want
to add before we close out the day.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
I just want, I just want to echo that. To
not be afraid. You know, you may have people who
you know speak badly to you on social media, or
speak badly to you on at your face, or they
shut the door in your face when you're trying to
talk to them or whatever screen you down. It doesn't matter.
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Keep going back, keep being a light, but protect yourself.
Please be aware of what's going on around you, and
if you can, double up. Don't go alone. Don't be alone.
I know I go and do these move ons and
all of these little you know, they're no Trump, you know, king,
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no kings or whatever, and people go, don't go by yourself,
and you know I probably will start taking somebody with
me because we can't stop. Do not be afraid. Do
not be afraid.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Aimen to that A sorry, yes, Charlie. We are going
to carry on, and I know Turning Point is definitely
going to carry on. In even bigger ways. And I
think through sadly, the untimely assassination of Charlie is going
to bring on even a bigger movement, bigger than MAGA,
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and so it's really going to make the enemy mad.
And I think, again, folks, we got one life, We
got one life to live. I would rather be bold
and go out with the blaze than just lay there
and wait for the clock to tick until I turn
one hundred and twenty four, because I got a lot
to do and hopefully I'll get a lot of time
to get it done. But I really think that if
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you're out there and you're hurting, if you don't know
what to say to your children, if you don't know
what to do, share the videos of Charlie. Let Charlie
speak with the videos out there. You watch the videos.
If you're struggling, if you're hurting, if this is only
exacerbated or further trauma for you, if you're alone, get
with someone, Get with a counselor get with a therapist.
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We talked about ninety eight eight. There's lots of things
that we can suggest for you on this show or
prior shows. You know, we're live today, but these shows
do get recorded. You can always tune into them on iHeartRadio.
Just google up wellness and censored with Patty g. Being
in the mental health profession has been one of the
biggest blessings for me because through life and through some
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of the difficulty that I've been through, people can be
very cruel and whether you've been in a workplace issue,
a family issue, an emotional relationship issue, mental health, there's
really good people out there to help you get strong
and get on your feet again. And it's so important
(44:35):
to build your faith, not build your tolerance, not to
build your fear. And I think if we add anything
to the rest of the story today, that's the bigger
message is Charlie tried to tell us, and we're going
to continue to live through what he did share and
we're going to go from beyond that. But build your faith.
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Money comes and goes, friendships may come in go, but
if you start right with your faith, you can build
everything from there. And again, if you don't have someone
to talk to, look for a counselor there's lots of
different groups out there that you can get one. I
know that with Charlie. One of the other things was
to lead you led a good spirited life and you
(45:18):
talked about college. He didn't mean it in a bad way.
But you don't have to be the rocket scientist to
be a good person, right, And so because of that,
I want you guys to just take a second look,
look in the mirror, and what can you do to
live a good life like Charlie? And what can you
do to spread the word. We're just going to leave
(45:40):
it there, and in the last moment, if you guys
need to reach out, that's my QRS code. You can
find me at magnoliabwellness dot com And the QRS code
actually talks a little bit about my book. My book
is they call me Harriet, and that's my journey of
faith not fear. And when you tie all that we've
(46:02):
been through in the last four or five years, it's
important to know that through all of this we have
to be able to stay strong, stay the course. My
dogs are preaching it, and you guys have a wonderful
rest of your day. Look for us next Thursday, three
pm Eastern Wellness uncensored, Be well, be strong, and like
(46:24):
Charlie and Trump, say fight fight, fight, God bless you all,
God bless you Charlie
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