August 7, 2025 • 48 mins
904-377-1196 text Magnolia Behavioral Wellness https://magnoliacellpatch.com/Pattigillianowellness.com Join my guest Sally Saxon JD author of Covid19Vaccines&Beyond. We discuss the facts, the lies, the misinformation. Learn impacts on all, the military, VAERS reports, governing bodies, corruption, how deep does this web go. Learn how to get information, treat vax injury and get to the truth. You will not want to miss . call or text in with questions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hey, and welcome back to another episode of Wellness Uncensored.
My name is Patty g I am here with you today.
I'm a say Katric nurse practitioner and excited to be
out there talking to everybody across the airwaves. You know,
we've spent the last two years. We are about to
begin our third season. I cannot believe it, but we
have just crusted into season three of Wellness Uncensored. So
(00:56):
I guess we should have a little celebration in the
next couple of weeks. But this show became as a
result of what the pandemic plandemic those last five years
really turned out to be. And I get so excited
when I can have folks come on who join me
in just the journey that we've all had. And it
(01:17):
has taken us probably all this long to start to
get the word out and share things with folks. So
you understand how you've been misled, misinformed, duped if you will.
And I've got a great guest back today, Sally Saxon.
She is a retired attorney and we are going to
have part two of her book on the COVID vaccines
(01:39):
and beyond, and so we will bring Sally out. Just
if you've tuned in and you haven't heard us before,
you know I've written a book. They call me Harriet,
and you can pick that up either on my website
or on Amazon. And I think Rebel's got our little
QRS code that will tune you into my site if
you have questions. I love when folks text in questions
(02:01):
to me. Just put in a way to get back
to you that we've got Sally on. So Sally, so
excited that you're back. We had such a hot topic
the last time. I can't wait to talk about more much.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I always enjoy well, I don't know if enjoy is
the word, but you know it's it's very important, you know,
to talk about these things, even though we'd all love
to put COVID behind us all, but we can't, partly
because there are so many people still suffering from effects
(02:33):
of it, and also because of the Pandora's box they
have leased and what it means, and there's certain there
are a lot of lessons that we need to learn,
you know, from from COVID that a lot of people
just aren't aware of because they don't take the time
or don't have the time, you know, to go into
(02:53):
the details and find out more about it. But it's
really important that they do because of you know, what
is a hit just for future preparation and protecting yourself
and your family. I mean, there's things you know that
we can learn from the whole COVID experience that we
(03:17):
need to apply in light of future things. So you know,
once we'd learned those things, then yeah, we can can
move on. But you know, it's it's too early. I've
heard a doctor say even that we won't be able
to put COVID behind us for another thirty years. So
and he's a very this is a very very smart
(03:39):
doctor who said that. I can understand you know why
he did say that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I would have to agree, you know. And it's funny,
I mean, and you've got some great points that we're
going to talk about today, because you know, I literally
just was talking with a patient this morning and they
listen to the mainstream media and so much just filtered out,
and yet we've all become such a collective voice. I
think that's it's true. Like you said, we've got to
(04:06):
continue to push what we know out there to people
so this doesn't happen again. Just this morning, I'm hearing
stories about this really bad virus again it's out in
China and how people are getting sick as if just
enough to infiltrate the airwaves of social media and beyond.
And it's like, folks, just stop watching the show, step
(04:29):
back and think about, you know, what could be going on,
and start looking into things, which is why we're here,
you know, I just I love the book. We got
to put Sally's book up. If people haven't gotten your
book yet, it's via COVID nineteen, Vaccines and Beyond by
Sally Saxon. And I don't know, Rebel, if I've got
the picture from last time, I'll have to send it
(04:51):
over so we can put it up on the screen.
But yeah, just make sure you guys look it up
on Amazon. Here we go to get a little closer
here and I'll send you that picture. But yeah, it's
it's super important, and you know, you have a point
that I think it's really what you shared, and maybe
you want to read some of these points, but you know,
the specific lies and the adverse impacts, the devastating impacts
(05:15):
on military and how the military leaders tried to cover
them up, the death rate of people over sixty five,
the extent of deaths among athletes, and two thirds of
the people who participate it in if you want to
call it afiser clinical trial for six months, you know,
to four year olds that never finished the trial, and
(05:36):
then Moderna received three hundred thousand reports of adverse reactions
in the first three months. Let's just talk about that,
Like if you put that out there on the national news,
what would people think? You know, they'd have questions, you know,
And that's the stuff that I think we need to
talk about, like all the military and why is it
now they're allowing all the folks that were discharged from
(05:58):
the military for not getting the vaccine back. I'm glad,
I think, yeah, well, you.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Need them, but you know, I've heard that a lot
of them are not interested in going back and because
of the way they were treated. And you've got a
couple of different groups there. You've got the groups that
were involuntarily discharged, and then the ones who were voluntary,
who voluntarily discharged themselves because they they weren't going to
(06:27):
take the vaccine and they refuse it, and so they
made the choice before they were involuntarily separated, thinking that
was maybe more favorable to them. But they're treated differently now,
and so you know that's not right either. You know,
that's a problem that needs to be corrected, and so
(06:50):
we're dealing with that. But when you look at uh,
some of the data uh turning, you know, the rates
of uh various diseases and conditions that occurred right after
the mandates you know, took place. We're in that year
twenty twenty one and twenty two. We were very fortunate
(07:14):
that some brave whistleblowers among the doctors in the military
bothered to look at some of the data because Lieutenant
Colonel Teres Long was I think the original one who discovered, uh,
you know that the data in the military database demit database,
(07:36):
you know, like whoa comparing the numbers, you know, for
twenty twenty one, twenty two two as opposed to twenty
twenty or earlier, even the previous five years. There was
something very very wrong then because numbers skyrocketed. Just for example,
you know, hypertension, you know, increased by over two thousand percent.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
That Yeah, diseases of the nervous system one forty eight
percent increase, Uh, neurological problems one thousand percent increase, malignant
neoplasms of the esophagus eight hundred and ninety four percent increase,
multiple eurosis six hundred and eighty percent increase, you know,
(08:28):
and I can go on on. Uh, but these numbers
were sent you know, to you know, the the military
and even the Secretary of Defense, and uh, you know
even before the lawsuits you know, were filed at the
time lawsuits were filed to try and stop the the mandates. Uh,
(08:50):
the military leaders had this information, yet they went ahead,
you know with it anyway. And in one of the
issues I just go right at the beginning of the
book that Todd Callender, another attorney who was representing hundreds
of thousands of servicemen you know, in a lawsuit over
these shots. He had said that, you know, initially the
(09:13):
military was thinking of then just forcing you know, physically
forcing people get the shots. But he was able to
stop that. And so I mean it's bad enough that
they they were threatened with their you know, discharges and
other you know, negative consequences if they didn't take the shots.
(09:35):
But then it got worse because, uh, it was Attorney
Tom Wrens initially who had uh shared some of the
whistleblower findings in a hearing uh one Senate committee, I believe.
And and he came forward with that and Ron Johnson,
(09:56):
Senator Ron Johnson, thank god for him, you know, he
and me notified the military and said, you know, you
preserve all your documents. Well they didn't. They didn't listen
to it. They messed up. They altered the database right
after all that that testimony came out, Uh, the impacts
(10:17):
on the military. Yeah, and they made it look like, oh,
there had not been any big, you know increase after
the shots came out, and we all know that's not true,
but they tried to make it look like that and say, oh,
there was a bug in the system or something like that,
(10:37):
you know. And and so it's really and nobody's been
held accountable for that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
No they haven't. They haven't, and I wonder if they're
going to be. I mean, look, I thought I heard
about you was up on trial and he still sits
he still.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, well hopefully you know there recently we've been hearing
news that certain very high officials from former administrations, you know,
have been subpoenaed and there's criminal referrals about for them
(11:12):
and grand juries being convened. So we'll see, maybe something
is finally going to happen. But yeah, there's a lot
of people who need to be held accountable. But you know,
the sad thing is is that the big harms have
already been done.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh yeah, well, like that's a really important one. How
about the young people that are dying of heart attacks
and strokes? And then you even mentioned about the death
rate of people over sixty five. You know, why do
people not notice that this is such a trend of
death that they all think it's so normalized.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, and you know, relating to the deaths of people
sixty five and older. This was from the Medicare database
and Tom attorney Tom Rends, had a whistleblower who provided
him some data. And it's interesting to me because I
don't hear I haven't heard even over these last few years,
(12:11):
I've seldom heard anyone talk about this particular set of data.
But it's still posted on his website, even though it's
moved around a few times. I have to keep changing
the link. But you know, it was really puzzling to
me because I would have thought this would have been
an issue that a lot of people would talk about.
(12:32):
But the data that the whistleblower gave him again from
the government Medicare databases, Medicare Medicaid from CMS, which I
believe is the agency now headed by doctor Oz. But okay,
so it's that database, and it's excluding people who were
(12:56):
just on Medicaid and just focusing on the sixty five
and older who were on Medicare YEA, in the first
two weeks after they got their shot, either the first
shot or the second shot, there were over fifty thousand,
five zero fifty thousand deaths. That's just for that age group.
(13:18):
And it's just it's just in that short time period,
within two weeks after. So several of those were on
the very day they got the shot, the first shot
or the second A lot more every day, you know,
people were dying, you know, during that period. And so
(13:39):
a total of over fifty thousand just in that group,
you know, all the while CDC and and you know,
some people may say, well, these are older people. They
probably had other problems they were you know, a lot
of those people were probably going to die anyway. But
I mean, who do you know, no matter what your
age is, you would take a shot if you knew
(14:01):
you were dying anyway from other causes. I mean, they
wouldn't do that, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's the thing, not only the COVID shot, but even
the CDC and CMS, I should say CMS. All the
data and all the findings that we used to check
on in hospitals was to get the best lowest scores
of sepsis, heart failure, mortality rates, surgical site infections, high
(14:28):
patient satisfaction scores. The whole table flipped during COVID and
it was ventilator rates, use of remdsevere, How many days
was somebody hospitalized in the ICU for COVID. The higher
the dates, the higher the range, the higher the reimbursements.
And now here we are and look at what they're measuring.
(14:49):
They're ignoring all the things that are showing increased rates
of things as if it was not important. There's a
common denominator. It's a shot. You know. Oh, somebody called
in and asked, you know, do you think people are
going to fall for another pandemic. I know, I sure
hope not. But there's a lot of people out there
that are just still drinking the kool aid. Yeah, well
(15:12):
hearing this.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
There are, you know, And I unfortunately, I think there
will always be just a certain percentage of people that
will just not even listen, will not will not hear
no matter what kind of data you put in front
of them, they just are not willing to accept it
(15:33):
for a variety of reasons. So I think there's a
certain percentage I don't know how big that is, but
certain number of people who are going to fall into
that category. But I think, like sneepe Kersh's mentioned, there's
a movable middle, you know, in other words, a bunch
of people who fall into this category that well, maybe
(15:55):
they aren't awake yet, or they don't realize all the
harm that's been done, all the depths and injuries that
have been caused by these shots, and all the lives
and everything. Maybe they aren't, uh, you know, fully aware
of that, but they're open minded enough that if you
show them the data, uh, and the documents, especially from
(16:18):
the government or fisers or Maderna's own documents, uh, you know,
then it's hard to refute, uh. And so there there
there is that, you know, I think a significantly large
group in that movable middle that they just especially now
after there's been a little bit of time, uh for
(16:41):
more urban evidence to come forward. More people dying, you know,
as as you look around and think, gosh, why are
all these people dying. I had a friend in the
New Zealand I was talking to and he was commenting
on how a mechanic he'd been to was commenting, people
are dying all over the place. What is going on here?
(17:04):
And New Zealand had a very high vaccination rate, higher
than ours in the US, and so people are noticing.
So I think that that has helped to wake people
up as they begin to And then other things like
the nine month bus tour that Children's Health Defense did
in going around the country to thirty different states and
(17:27):
interviewing people who were either survivors of victims of the
hospital protocols they lost the protocols, died in the hospital,
or they had serious vaccine injuries or died after the
getting the shots, and so they interviewed a lot of people.
(17:48):
So things like that that helped to I think, help
to wake people up, you know, as to what's going on.
So I think there's still a large number of people
who are re boll with the information.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, I think it is. One of the folks just
called in and I guess it's heavy shared. You know,
people do have to be a little brain dead by
this point to not know that it's bad for them.
But here's the thing, folks, what are you going to
do when you get scared? What are you going to
do when you think there's a chance that you could
be at risk. They are very creative at putting fear
(18:25):
into people's heads, and that's where we have to really
push back. Now. I do see a lot on social
media now where people are pushing back because the news
media are throwing out all these different claims. But you know,
they're very deceptive. How do you think they caught our
attention the first time? You know, it was by instilling
fear and you have to worry you're going to lose
(18:46):
a loved one. I just literally like pulled up the
other day on social media an excerpt that I had
sent out in twenty twenty, and I was telling people
stop believing the narrative. This is all a narrative and
what are you going to do? And you know, I
think people will will kind of question again almost as
if like we were talking about, how do you expect
different results if you're going to keep doing the same thing.
(19:08):
But we've got to get it in people's heads to
really pay close attention, don't let them slip by. And
they're putting it in everything. So again goes back to
eating nutrition, what you allow yourself to be exposed to
in the environment.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So many things, some things, and the new book that
I'm working on now goes into a lot of those
other things. It deals with the all out assault against us,
not just the vaccines or anything related to COVID, but
beyond that, and we're all at risk now. You know,
(19:45):
everybody's blood I think has been contaminated because of the
stuff they put in the air and the chemtrails spray
on the food. It's in the food supply, it's in
the you know, farm animals that go, you know, just
water that we eat, it's in the water. I mean,
it's every everywhere. I mean even in clothing, building materials,
(20:10):
things in the house, the household items that we use,
you know, So we can't get away from it, and
I think it's good that you brought up this issue
of fear, because in both the COVID nineteen vaccines book
and my new book, I really want to try to
encourage people why there is hope, why you don't need
(20:33):
to fear or live in fear or make decisions based
on fear. Because when you make decisions based on fear,
they're usually not good decisions. And so there are reasons
to be encouraged, you know, partly because of the different
kinds of treatments and things that are now available that
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weren't available a few years ago even and uh, when
you realize that this at its root is a spiritual
war that our own government is waging against us, that
takes on a whole different dimension because I personally believe
that our the extent to which we can all recover
(21:17):
from the COVID years, and you know, what is happening
even now and what has become and how we can
protect ourselves, you know, it depends on divine intervention. We need,
we need God, we need, you know, to spiritual warfare.
(21:39):
I mean, it really is. And my new book will
go into more of that and showing why that is
and how God has equipped us to be able to
to protect ourselves and fight against this on the spiritual
level and the spiritual ramifications of all the different ways
(22:00):
they're assaulting us.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
And why and this issue of why, because you know,
one of the issues I've heard even in recent weeks, uh,
different interviews I've listened to. Sometimes it was the most
Sometimes it was the guest raising the issue of well,
why would they, uh, why would they our own governments
(22:23):
seek to harm us? And question? And this is one reason, Yeah,
this is one big reason a lot of people have
trouble getting their heads around this idea that you know,
there's any intention behind this. And my book, even the
first book, COVID nineteen, Vaccines and Beyond, goes into that issue, uh,
(22:48):
you know, to a certain degree, you know. And it's
that understanding that there's a big picture that everything related
to COVID fits into and there an agenda behind it.
And we talked a little bit about that last time
a few weeks ago. Uh. And if if you understand
(23:09):
that there is a big picture and that there is
an agenda being carried out by a group of global
elites and everyone they can recruit, knowingly or unknowingly, to
carry out their you know, their plans. If you understand that,
then all these dots can start connecting and a lot
(23:32):
of the answers come forth to answer, well, why would
they do that? Or why would they do this? So
it'll answer all those questions and tie it all together
in a way that you know, nothing else does.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I think you're referring to chapter thirty five, and folks,
you are going to have to get Sally's book. It
really does speak about the dot connecting, about what could
go wrong, and it speaks about you know, again, does
anybody realize the massive global economy of pharmaceuticals? I mean,
even on the scale that I've been exposed to in
(24:07):
hospital leadership, and you know, now as a provider, let
me give you just a small example. I sent a
prescription to one patient a very unusual medication. Patient has
a very specific disease process that is very uncommon, but
it's in psychiatry and it develops in little girls as
(24:29):
they're just up to about eighteen months old. I'll just
tell you all what it is, you know, the big secret,
but it's called Reht syndrome. And in Rehet syndrome, the
child usually it's females develops and becomes very delayed, slurred speech,
slow speech, and is so childlike even with cognitive development,
(24:51):
has growth issues, malformations and things like that. But I
was fortunate a parent found me and I've been treating her,
and the parent wanted to try one of the rare
drugs that used for ret syndrome. So it was fine
to prescribe it. And I did some research on it
and she tried it and she really didn't care for it.
Worked for about a little over a month for her daughter.
(25:11):
Do you know by me prescribing one one time, the
sales rep found me, wanted to get my business, wanted
to educate me more. So let me tell you the connection.
It's like a web and they the whole connection from
you know, let's just say big Pharma all the way down.
It's kind of creepy, like you prescribe one med one time.
(25:35):
Maybe I did prescribe it to her for about two
three months, But this is one patient in a CE
that company sent their rep to swoop down on me,
and it was incredible. I'm like, how did you know
I prescribed it? I mean, of course, how did you know?
Because they tracked a track and isn't that what we've
done in COVID. We all got up, we all got
set up with contact tracing, we all got set up
(25:57):
with when you give your When you got COVID, they
tracked who got what dose of remdesverr. It's all tracked.
So we created this huge database that all they have
to do is go in and see who has what genetics,
who has what this, who had what drugs, who had
adverse outcomes, who's still alive? And then take that for
(26:18):
each vaccine that people got. We are like puppets to
the master puppeteer of the global elitist You know, does
that not freak people out? It freaks me out because
I don't like anybody to know what I'm doing unless
I wanted to know.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
And you know, when I first learned about the global
elites who had this master plan to create a one
world government back in the early nineties, So it's been
over thirty years since I first became aware of that,
and I can tell you I did not want to
(26:51):
believe it. I mean, it really was hard. I did
not want to believe it because consequences of that and
what were planning to do, because it would become a
totalitarian government. Uh. It's like you just don't want to
go there, your mind does not want to go there,
and Georgia will yeah. But you know, for me, I
(27:14):
mean partly because I guess truth is one of my
highest core values. So it's like, all right, I want
to know what is it about this? How bad is it?
But I was convinced, uh that this was not just
a conspiracy theory when I started looking at the documentation
(27:34):
that a particular author speaker was presenting, and he came
uh to uh to understand that this big plan existed.
And when I looked at his documentation, I mean, we're
talking about what they call primary source documents, which are
documents that you know, uh, like for government documents for example,
(27:59):
or the a particular organization has a certain agenda, a
certain plan, a certain certain mission, and you know, there
are their own documents spell out this is what we
plan to do. Yeah, And so those are the primary
source documents that they themselves wrote, or just you wrote
(28:21):
a document, you know, admitting to something that was wrong
or if I did that, you know, that would be
a primary source documents. That's some of the best evidence,
some of the strongest evidence. And so when I saw
how many primary source documents this author and speaker was
basing his his own book on that I read, uh
(28:45):
you know, that kind of blew me away and I realized,
you know this, this is true. This is what they
themselves are saying they are planning to do, and that's
going to do it. And and then you know later on,
of course, at that time they were more secretive about it.
And so that's where the term conspiracy theory comes in.
(29:10):
And when you when you learn that this group of
global elits over many many decades, actually going back hundreds
of years in your so forth, but in our country,
you know, still this has been very long in the coming.
It didn't just start up in the last you know,
(29:30):
five ten, fifteen years ye mak, Yeah, many many decades
worth that has taken to get to this point. And
COVID is significant because as the Klaus Schwab, you know,
the was until recently the chairman and one of the
(29:51):
founders of the World Economic Forum, this group of elites
that just kind of self appointed themselves to you know,
dictate how the world is going to go and what
should happen. You know, they so you know, they would
come out these statements, and Klaus Schwaid came out with
(30:11):
a book called COVID The Great Reset. And so COVID
was supposed to be because it was a very disrupted
event or series of events throughout the whole world. It
was intended to set the stage for this transition into
(30:33):
the global government that they've been planning for so long.
And uh, but the plan got interrupted a little bit
when Donald Trump got elected the first time. So I
kind of yeah, and then but these people are very determined,
(30:53):
you know, and oh yeah, yeah, and so they don't
let up, and they have stress and tactics that they'll
they'll do whatever it takes, you know, no holds barred, legal, illegal,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
And so you know, when you start to understand these
kinds of things and what it is you have to
come up against, you know, what we have in our
to our advantage is strengthen numbers. Because there are as
many people as there are who are carrying out, you know,
their agenda, there's a whole lot more of the rest
(31:31):
of us.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
So the more that know what's going on, the better
we can be prepared and stand up and just say no,
I'm not going to do that, and you can recognize.
That's why I was able to recognize back in twenty
twenty when things got started earlier in the year, I got, yeah,
(31:54):
this just looks like another one of their you know scams. Yeah,
I mean, who know where, who knew where it was
going to go or how it would end up. But
it just smell the rat right from the beginning. So
I never bought into that. And then even in twenty twenty,
I there were some doctors who were talking about the
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vaccines and the dangers of the vaccines that were in
the works and warning people not to get them. And
so I heard their warnings and thought, well, I wasn't
planning to get the vaccine anyway, but I assure as heck,
I'm not going to now. And you know, so there
was information that was available then, but you know, not
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everybody was listening to those sources that they were still
listening to the corporate media and getting their news from
there or the social media giants. So it's like, if
we really want to protect ourselves and know how we
can you know, survive and thrive no matter what they're doing,
(33:04):
you know, we have to you know, look away from
the corporate media. Look at what there's so much in
the uh, in the independent media, you know, like shows
like yours and now there's so many great interviews with
experts and so many resources and uh, just a lot
of documentary films, books. I mean, there's there's just a
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ton of information that is available to help people get
up to speed on what's really going on. Yeah, and
that's people have.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
To want to. Yeah, you like, such people that have
their head in the clouds, like they just don't even
want to really think about stuff like this, and so
you know they're going to be kind of blindsided, I guess.
But they're also going to be those folks that just
they'll not they won't understand, you know, what's happened or
what's happening or what comes over you know them physically
(34:02):
sickness and all that. And you know, but you're right,
you know, the first few, I guess, first two or
three years in, you know, there were some very sudden,
odd depths of some prominent people internationally physicians that were
speaking out against the you know, just against COVID and
about how COVID was being treated. And some of those docs,
(34:23):
you know, they just randomly appeared dead, you know, And
so the more of us that know and talk about
things and get the word out, you know, there is
kind of like that safety element and numbers, and I
think exposing stuff like like you have in your book
and you've got such great, you know, research behind it
that people can't just take this and go listen. This
isn't just Sally writing up a little conspiracy conspiracy theory.
(34:48):
You know. It is well documented with references. I mean,
like you got a whole page just on one chapter,
you know, of references. So this is well well well
documented and verified. And see like we I don't see
this on the news, but we hear narrative, we hear
rhetoric and you know, shifting off. Like I just had
a patient today telling me how they're so afraid they
(35:09):
want to flee the country because they're taking out people
that are you know, born and raised here. And I said,
what are you listening to? You know? And I said, certainly,
I can't tell you firsthand that, but I can tell
you what I'm seeing and hearing. And I'm going you're
listening to one side of the news. You're listening to
one narrative and to your point too, Sally. You're right,
(35:32):
you know, with what they put out there, propaganda wise,
it's meant to twist and coerce and put fear in people.
And we've got to look past that. If it doesn't
look right, sound right, we probably should do some deeper diving.
And folks like you and I, you know, we're not
out on a Fox News you know. I know, I
sure want to get myself out on that one of
(35:54):
those those networks. I would love to be able to,
you know, just chit chat for a few minutes. But
what we do have is we've got America's real network,
you know, real news network. That's a link X. We've
got people that are out there speaking podcasts like this.
You know, We're trying to get real, real information out
to people. That's why people have to get your book.
(36:15):
When your second book coming out, are how close are we?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Gosh, how hopefully by the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Okay, but time to read.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
This one, Yes, yeah, there's time to read this one.
And I was trying to write the second book in
such a way that it would stand, you know, by itself,
without people necessarily having had to read the first book.
But book such an important foundation uh, you know, exposing
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a lot of the specific lies and deceptions, misrepresentations, censorship,
just you know, so many things. I mean, you just
can't imagine how many ways they have to or how
many points there are to lie about or cover up
(37:10):
or yeah, press.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Well here's a question though, and you've got it written
in here. You know, the dangers of vaccinated pilots, drivers
and others. I mean, there is reason to be concerned.
You know, I'm one to try to calm a person's anxiety.
But what do you think about this? Like, because we
have had several plane accidents lately, but I'm not sure
that they've been really by a pilot going down. It's
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been through pilot sharp thinking to avoid an error or
you know, accident. But what do you think about the
drivers and pilots.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I mean, it is a real serious problem to be
considered because there have been a lot more. In fact,
there were some things, some points I had in that
chapter originally and I took them out because I thought
this is a little too much.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, once you left out, can you share any kind.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Of what other pilots are saying about what they're experiencing
with their fellow pilots in terms of adverse reactions to
the vaccines.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
And I mean while it hearsay or what can we
say about it that we can't confirm or deny.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, no, I mean because they would report like how
many different I forget what they call it, but there
would be certain number of reports every month if a
pilot was in distress or something that after the shots
came out, that number just rose exponentially.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Do you remember it? I mean you try to hide
it though this is just a random event.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, and yeah, and so the public you know, doesn't know.
But fortunately we've been very fortunate that there haven't been
more plain incidents than there have been, because there have
been some pilots who have had emergencies in the cockpit
that you know, the mainstream media is not going to
report those. But one thing I want to emphasize here
(39:10):
is both in the first book and the new book
I'm writing, you know, it's so important to encourage people
not to be fearful. You know, it's important to know
the truth though, because you can't protect yourself fully if
you don't know the truth about things. And you know,
the government and those behind this whole agenda are trying
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to instill fear because they know that people will react
to fear in a way that leads them down the
path they want them to go. But that always turns
out to be a trap. So it's like we're a
pawns in a game that they're playing, you know, and
they're using us, and you know, maybe it'll help some
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people to think of it that way that I don't
like to be used by people. You know, I'm not
gonna let them do that to me anymore, you know,
whatever it takes. But you know, especially this is and
this is where God comes in the picture. You know,
if if we know what the issues are and what
the plan is, we can be better prepared to protect
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ourselves ahead of time, because when you're prepared for something,
then there's there's much less reason to be fearful. But
if you're not prepared and something catches you by surprise,
then you're easy to be made fearful and let down
a path that you really don't want to go down.
But they're directing you down the path they want. And
(40:40):
these global globally leads do not have our best interests
at heart, you know. Period, that's what people need to understand.
They are working against us you know, their agenda seeks
to weaken us in every possible way, you know, financially, relationally, emotionally, physically,
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you name it to weaken us, harm us, disable us,
or kill us. And eventually you know that they have
a massive depopulation agenda. But you know, if you know
God and you've got a close relationship with God personally,
I'm not talking about religion, you know, I'm talking about
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a personal relation, Reid, that's a whole different thing, and
that's an adventure and that's something to get excited about
because God is amazing, but he's gotten a bad rap.
And you know when you when you read my first
book and you see all the things that they've lied
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to us about, well it makes you wonder what else
have they lied to us about? And one of the
other big things they've lied to us about is all
things God. So that's why a lot of people resist God.
They don't want to even from don't even believe he exists,
or they see God as you know, some kind of
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being that is totally different than what is it actually like.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Well, I can tell you this confidently, there was nothing
else that was going to save my button. Getting out
of the hospital other than God, no doctor, no one,
No one helped me. No one knew how to help me.
And that's why I'm here today because that was my deal.
When I prayed to God and the ICU, I said,
just look, I want to make a difference. And I
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think I told you this just one day, one person
at a time, and so yeah, we do have to
put our faith in God. I think that's extremely important
and we do. You know, you got to get back
to basics, folks. You know we all got here. We're
here for a reason. We're here for such a time.
And Sally I introduced you to hopefully you and Tom
from Alpha Omega Energy will get a chance to really connect.
(42:49):
Maybe I'll get the three of you on the show
once you guys talk. But Tom has been a resource
of information to me and a lot of times we
share because I want to leave folks with some hope
and some ideas too, you know, not to live in fear.
Tom and I had talked about using anecetyl systeine, acetic acid,
citric acid. Those are some of the things that you
can use in your daily routine. Again that he has
(43:12):
you know, been able to find ways to help break
that cycle for those that are vaccinated, and I'll have
him back on so we can talk more about But
like the suggestions are, you know, incorporate glucothione in your diet,
nitric oxide some people have gotten those in some supplements.
Always recommend nanokinase and NEAD is wonderful, wonderful naturally occurring
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transmitter in your body that we don't make enough of
as we get older, and the more you can infuse
nano NAD was very powerful in helping to heal my lungs.
I got at IV. But there's lots of things folks
can look into, and you know, there's websites that are
out there. There's all kinds of things out there. So
it's not it's not a dark message folks today. The
messages stay informed. The message is go get your resources.
(43:59):
If you want resources, I will tell you one of
the organizations if you want to learn more about all
of the madness and the betrayal, the hospital homicides and depths.
Working with the group. That's where I do. A trauma
group out of Betrayal Project USA dot org. It's Betrayal
Project USA dot org. We have launched national campaign. We're
(44:23):
getting more and more we must have over two thousand
stories of victims, and beyond that, we do a weekly
show on x We've partnered with other people that are
out there, and they're from all walks of life. These
aren't all medical people. So these are people that are
sharing stories like what we're sharing Sally, you know, and
we have all kind of come together to get the
(44:44):
word out so more and more people can link in
and learn about what we've learned and how to stay safe,
protect and protect your families. We've only got just a
few more minutes. Any final thoughts you want to get
out to folks, You got a minute to kind of
give us your words of wisdom?
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Okay, well I would I would say that because of
there are still various aspects of this agenda that are
being carried out, and uh, it's like full speed ahead,
and so we need we need to try to reach
as many people as possible who aren't yet awakened to
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these dangers and who you know, reacted in fear and
we don't want we can't have them reacting in fear.
We don't want them to react in fear again and
feeling unprepared and and and that kind of thing. And
so you know, it's it's incumbent upon like all of us,
(45:42):
to do even a little bit to try to reach
some of those people you know in the movable middle,
you know especially, and you never really know who's going
to respond uh in a favorable way and and who's not.
So you know, I want to just strongly and courage people.
You know, if you do nothing else, just share some
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kind of resource, whether it's it's my book or somebody
else's book or something can just actually put into somebody's hands,
you know, even anonymously if you need to, and you know,
and and pray you know that they will read even
a little bit, because that was why this book was written,
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you know, was to help waight people up and to
present an overview of the key issues with enough evidence
for people to see that you know, this is a
solid point. This is solid evidence. It's not just claims
that people are making that aren't based on any evidence,
or that are based on real flimsy evidence. I mean,
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this is you know, solid evidence. And so just trying
to put together the key issues, bring it all together
in one resource, and so people don't have to listen
to ten billion interviews or documentaries or Cupstech articles. I'll
try and put the key things all together.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
It is. It's packed, so you know, and again I
so appreciate you Sally. Folks. If you want to get informed,
you know, you got to get out there. Get Sally's
book on Amazon. You can get my book on Amazon
too if you want to. You know, follow up. Lots
of people seem to have questions after the show, so
just going on to the qres page that Rebel will
(47:28):
put up there and listen. Not to be outdone. You know,
we've got more exciting guests to come your way. Sally.
Thanks again, we got to have you back. We do
even more talk and I know it's piqued the interest
to people. But get her book, get the book, get informed.
Appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for being the viewers
out there. I really appreciate the feedback you guys share.
So thanks again, and we will see you next Thursday,
same time, three pm. And hopefully I will get one
(47:52):
of our infamous guests on and you'll love what our
dialogue is next week. So y'all take care, have a
great weekend. A
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hey, and welcome back to another episode of Wellness Uncensored.
My name is Patty g I am here with you today.
I'm a say Katric nurse practitioner and excited to be
out there talking to everybody across the airwaves. You know,
we've spent the last two years. We are about to
begin our third season. I cannot believe it, but we
have just crusted into season three of Wellness Uncensored. So
(00:56):
I guess we should have a little celebration in the
next couple of weeks. But this show became as a
result of what the pandemic plandemic those last five years
really turned out to be. And I get so excited
when I can have folks come on who join me
in just the journey that we've all had. And it
(01:17):
has taken us probably all this long to start to
get the word out and share things with folks. So
you understand how you've been misled, misinformed, duped if you will.
And I've got a great guest back today, Sally Saxon.
She is a retired attorney and we are going to
have part two of her book on the COVID vaccines
(01:39):
and beyond, and so we will bring Sally out. Just
if you've tuned in and you haven't heard us before,
you know I've written a book. They call me Harriet,
and you can pick that up either on my website
or on Amazon. And I think Rebel's got our little
QRS code that will tune you into my site if
you have questions. I love when folks text in questions
(02:01):
to me. Just put in a way to get back
to you that we've got Sally on. So Sally, so
excited that you're back. We had such a hot topic
the last time. I can't wait to talk about more much.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I always enjoy well, I don't know if enjoy is
the word, but you know it's it's very important, you know,
to talk about these things, even though we'd all love
to put COVID behind us all, but we can't, partly
because there are so many people still suffering from effects
(02:33):
of it, and also because of the Pandora's box they
have leased and what it means, and there's certain there
are a lot of lessons that we need to learn,
you know, from from COVID that a lot of people
just aren't aware of because they don't take the time
or don't have the time, you know, to go into
(02:53):
the details and find out more about it. But it's
really important that they do because of you know, what
is a hit just for future preparation and protecting yourself
and your family. I mean, there's things you know that
we can learn from the whole COVID experience that we
(03:17):
need to apply in light of future things. So you know,
once we'd learned those things, then yeah, we can can
move on. But you know, it's it's too early. I've
heard a doctor say even that we won't be able
to put COVID behind us for another thirty years. So
and he's a very this is a very very smart
(03:39):
doctor who said that. I can understand you know why
he did say that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I would have to agree, you know. And it's funny,
I mean, and you've got some great points that we're
going to talk about today, because you know, I literally
just was talking with a patient this morning and they
listen to the mainstream media and so much just filtered out,
and yet we've all become such a collective voice. I
think that's it's true. Like you said, we've got to
(04:06):
continue to push what we know out there to people
so this doesn't happen again. Just this morning, I'm hearing
stories about this really bad virus again it's out in
China and how people are getting sick as if just
enough to infiltrate the airwaves of social media and beyond.
And it's like, folks, just stop watching the show, step
(04:29):
back and think about, you know, what could be going on,
and start looking into things, which is why we're here,
you know, I just I love the book. We got
to put Sally's book up. If people haven't gotten your
book yet, it's via COVID nineteen, Vaccines and Beyond by
Sally Saxon. And I don't know, Rebel, if I've got
the picture from last time, I'll have to send it
(04:51):
over so we can put it up on the screen.
But yeah, just make sure you guys look it up
on Amazon. Here we go to get a little closer
here and I'll send you that picture. But yeah, it's
it's super important, and you know, you have a point
that I think it's really what you shared, and maybe
you want to read some of these points, but you know,
the specific lies and the adverse impacts, the devastating impacts
(05:15):
on military and how the military leaders tried to cover
them up, the death rate of people over sixty five,
the extent of deaths among athletes, and two thirds of
the people who participate it in if you want to
call it afiser clinical trial for six months, you know,
to four year olds that never finished the trial, and
(05:36):
then Moderna received three hundred thousand reports of adverse reactions
in the first three months. Let's just talk about that,
Like if you put that out there on the national news,
what would people think? You know, they'd have questions, you know,
And that's the stuff that I think we need to
talk about, like all the military and why is it
now they're allowing all the folks that were discharged from
(05:58):
the military for not getting the vaccine back. I'm glad,
I think, yeah, well, you.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Need them, but you know, I've heard that a lot
of them are not interested in going back and because
of the way they were treated. And you've got a
couple of different groups there. You've got the groups that
were involuntarily discharged, and then the ones who were voluntary,
who voluntarily discharged themselves because they they weren't going to
(06:27):
take the vaccine and they refuse it, and so they
made the choice before they were involuntarily separated, thinking that
was maybe more favorable to them. But they're treated differently now,
and so you know that's not right either. You know,
that's a problem that needs to be corrected, and so
(06:50):
we're dealing with that. But when you look at uh,
some of the data uh turning, you know, the rates
of uh various diseases and conditions that occurred right after
the mandates you know, took place. We're in that year
twenty twenty one and twenty two. We were very fortunate
(07:14):
that some brave whistleblowers among the doctors in the military
bothered to look at some of the data because Lieutenant
Colonel Teres Long was I think the original one who discovered, uh,
you know that the data in the military database demit database,
(07:36):
you know, like whoa comparing the numbers, you know, for
twenty twenty one, twenty two two as opposed to twenty
twenty or earlier, even the previous five years. There was
something very very wrong then because numbers skyrocketed. Just for example,
you know, hypertension, you know, increased by over two thousand percent.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
That Yeah, diseases of the nervous system one forty eight
percent increase, Uh, neurological problems one thousand percent increase, malignant
neoplasms of the esophagus eight hundred and ninety four percent increase,
multiple eurosis six hundred and eighty percent increase, you know,
(08:28):
and I can go on on. Uh, but these numbers
were sent you know, to you know, the the military
and even the Secretary of Defense, and uh, you know
even before the lawsuits you know, were filed at the
time lawsuits were filed to try and stop the the mandates. Uh,
(08:50):
the military leaders had this information, yet they went ahead,
you know with it anyway. And in one of the
issues I just go right at the beginning of the
book that Todd Callender, another attorney who was representing hundreds
of thousands of servicemen you know, in a lawsuit over
these shots. He had said that, you know, initially the
(09:13):
military was thinking of then just forcing you know, physically
forcing people get the shots. But he was able to
stop that. And so I mean it's bad enough that
they they were threatened with their you know, discharges and
other you know, negative consequences if they didn't take the shots.
(09:35):
But then it got worse because, uh, it was Attorney
Tom Wrens initially who had uh shared some of the
whistleblower findings in a hearing uh one Senate committee, I believe.
And and he came forward with that and Ron Johnson,
(09:56):
Senator Ron Johnson, thank god for him, you know, he
and me notified the military and said, you know, you
preserve all your documents. Well they didn't. They didn't listen
to it. They messed up. They altered the database right
after all that that testimony came out, Uh, the impacts
(10:17):
on the military. Yeah, and they made it look like, oh,
there had not been any big, you know increase after
the shots came out, and we all know that's not true,
but they tried to make it look like that and say, oh,
there was a bug in the system or something like that,
(10:37):
you know. And and so it's really and nobody's been
held accountable for that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
No they haven't. They haven't, and I wonder if they're
going to be. I mean, look, I thought I heard
about you was up on trial and he still sits
he still.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, well hopefully you know there recently we've been hearing
news that certain very high officials from former administrations, you know,
have been subpoenaed and there's criminal referrals about for them
(11:12):
and grand juries being convened. So we'll see, maybe something
is finally going to happen. But yeah, there's a lot
of people who need to be held accountable. But you know,
the sad thing is is that the big harms have
already been done.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh yeah, well, like that's a really important one. How
about the young people that are dying of heart attacks
and strokes? And then you even mentioned about the death
rate of people over sixty five. You know, why do
people not notice that this is such a trend of
death that they all think it's so normalized.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, and you know, relating to the deaths of people
sixty five and older. This was from the Medicare database
and Tom attorney Tom Rends, had a whistleblower who provided
him some data. And it's interesting to me because I
don't hear I haven't heard even over these last few years,
(12:11):
I've seldom heard anyone talk about this particular set of data.
But it's still posted on his website, even though it's
moved around a few times. I have to keep changing
the link. But you know, it was really puzzling to
me because I would have thought this would have been
an issue that a lot of people would talk about.
(12:32):
But the data that the whistleblower gave him again from
the government Medicare databases, Medicare Medicaid from CMS, which I
believe is the agency now headed by doctor Oz. But okay,
so it's that database, and it's excluding people who were
(12:56):
just on Medicaid and just focusing on the sixty five
and older who were on Medicare YEA, in the first
two weeks after they got their shot, either the first
shot or the second shot, there were over fifty thousand,
five zero fifty thousand deaths. That's just for that age group.
(13:18):
And it's just it's just in that short time period,
within two weeks after. So several of those were on
the very day they got the shot, the first shot
or the second A lot more every day, you know,
people were dying, you know, during that period. And so
(13:39):
a total of over fifty thousand just in that group,
you know, all the while CDC and and you know,
some people may say, well, these are older people. They
probably had other problems they were you know, a lot
of those people were probably going to die anyway. But
I mean, who do you know, no matter what your
age is, you would take a shot if you knew
(14:01):
you were dying anyway from other causes. I mean, they
wouldn't do that, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's the thing, not only the COVID shot, but even
the CDC and CMS, I should say CMS. All the
data and all the findings that we used to check
on in hospitals was to get the best lowest scores
of sepsis, heart failure, mortality rates, surgical site infections, high
(14:28):
patient satisfaction scores. The whole table flipped during COVID and
it was ventilator rates, use of remdsevere, How many days
was somebody hospitalized in the ICU for COVID. The higher
the dates, the higher the range, the higher the reimbursements.
And now here we are and look at what they're measuring.
(14:49):
They're ignoring all the things that are showing increased rates
of things as if it was not important. There's a
common denominator. It's a shot. You know. Oh, somebody called
in and asked, you know, do you think people are
going to fall for another pandemic. I know, I sure
hope not. But there's a lot of people out there
that are just still drinking the kool aid. Yeah, well
(15:12):
hearing this.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
There are, you know, And I unfortunately, I think there
will always be just a certain percentage of people that
will just not even listen, will not will not hear
no matter what kind of data you put in front
of them, they just are not willing to accept it
(15:33):
for a variety of reasons. So I think there's a
certain percentage I don't know how big that is, but
certain number of people who are going to fall into
that category. But I think, like sneepe Kersh's mentioned, there's
a movable middle, you know, in other words, a bunch
of people who fall into this category that well, maybe
(15:55):
they aren't awake yet, or they don't realize all the
harm that's been done, all the depths and injuries that
have been caused by these shots, and all the lives
and everything. Maybe they aren't, uh, you know, fully aware
of that, but they're open minded enough that if you
show them the data, uh, and the documents, especially from
(16:18):
the government or fisers or Maderna's own documents, uh, you know,
then it's hard to refute, uh. And so there there
there is that, you know, I think a significantly large
group in that movable middle that they just especially now
after there's been a little bit of time, uh for
(16:41):
more urban evidence to come forward. More people dying, you know,
as as you look around and think, gosh, why are
all these people dying. I had a friend in the
New Zealand I was talking to and he was commenting
on how a mechanic he'd been to was commenting, people
are dying all over the place. What is going on here?
(17:04):
And New Zealand had a very high vaccination rate, higher
than ours in the US, and so people are noticing.
So I think that that has helped to wake people
up as they begin to And then other things like
the nine month bus tour that Children's Health Defense did
in going around the country to thirty different states and
(17:27):
interviewing people who were either survivors of victims of the
hospital protocols they lost the protocols, died in the hospital,
or they had serious vaccine injuries or died after the
getting the shots, and so they interviewed a lot of people.
(17:48):
So things like that that helped to I think, help
to wake people up, you know, as to what's going on.
So I think there's still a large number of people
who are re boll with the information.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, I think it is. One of the folks just
called in and I guess it's heavy shared. You know,
people do have to be a little brain dead by
this point to not know that it's bad for them.
But here's the thing, folks, what are you going to
do when you get scared? What are you going to
do when you think there's a chance that you could
be at risk. They are very creative at putting fear
(18:25):
into people's heads, and that's where we have to really
push back. Now. I do see a lot on social
media now where people are pushing back because the news
media are throwing out all these different claims. But you know,
they're very deceptive. How do you think they caught our
attention the first time? You know, it was by instilling
fear and you have to worry you're going to lose
(18:46):
a loved one. I just literally like pulled up the
other day on social media an excerpt that I had
sent out in twenty twenty, and I was telling people
stop believing the narrative. This is all a narrative and
what are you going to do? And you know, I
think people will will kind of question again almost as
if like we were talking about, how do you expect
different results if you're going to keep doing the same thing.
(19:08):
But we've got to get it in people's heads to
really pay close attention, don't let them slip by. And
they're putting it in everything. So again goes back to
eating nutrition, what you allow yourself to be exposed to
in the environment.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So many things, some things, and the new book that
I'm working on now goes into a lot of those
other things. It deals with the all out assault against us,
not just the vaccines or anything related to COVID, but
beyond that, and we're all at risk now. You know,
(19:45):
everybody's blood I think has been contaminated because of the
stuff they put in the air and the chemtrails spray
on the food. It's in the food supply, it's in
the you know, farm animals that go, you know, just
water that we eat, it's in the water. I mean,
it's every everywhere. I mean even in clothing, building materials,
(20:10):
things in the house, the household items that we use,
you know, So we can't get away from it, and
I think it's good that you brought up this issue
of fear, because in both the COVID nineteen vaccines book
and my new book, I really want to try to
encourage people why there is hope, why you don't need
(20:33):
to fear or live in fear or make decisions based
on fear. Because when you make decisions based on fear,
they're usually not good decisions. And so there are reasons
to be encouraged, you know, partly because of the different
kinds of treatments and things that are now available that
(20:57):
weren't available a few years ago even and uh, when
you realize that this at its root is a spiritual
war that our own government is waging against us, that
takes on a whole different dimension because I personally believe
that our the extent to which we can all recover
(21:17):
from the COVID years, and you know, what is happening
even now and what has become and how we can
protect ourselves, you know, it depends on divine intervention. We need,
we need God, we need, you know, to spiritual warfare.
(21:39):
I mean, it really is. And my new book will
go into more of that and showing why that is
and how God has equipped us to be able to
to protect ourselves and fight against this on the spiritual
level and the spiritual ramifications of all the different ways
(22:00):
they're assaulting us.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
And why and this issue of why, because you know,
one of the issues I've heard even in recent weeks, uh,
different interviews I've listened to. Sometimes it was the most
Sometimes it was the guest raising the issue of well,
why would they, uh, why would they our own governments
(22:23):
seek to harm us? And question? And this is one reason, Yeah,
this is one big reason a lot of people have
trouble getting their heads around this idea that you know,
there's any intention behind this. And my book, even the
first book, COVID nineteen, Vaccines and Beyond, goes into that issue, uh,
(22:48):
you know, to a certain degree, you know. And it's
that understanding that there's a big picture that everything related
to COVID fits into and there an agenda behind it.
And we talked a little bit about that last time
a few weeks ago. Uh. And if if you understand
(23:09):
that there is a big picture and that there is
an agenda being carried out by a group of global
elites and everyone they can recruit, knowingly or unknowingly, to
carry out their you know, their plans. If you understand that,
then all these dots can start connecting and a lot
(23:32):
of the answers come forth to answer, well, why would
they do that? Or why would they do this? So
it'll answer all those questions and tie it all together
in a way that you know, nothing else does.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I think you're referring to chapter thirty five, and folks,
you are going to have to get Sally's book. It
really does speak about the dot connecting, about what could
go wrong, and it speaks about you know, again, does
anybody realize the massive global economy of pharmaceuticals? I mean,
even on the scale that I've been exposed to in
(24:07):
hospital leadership, and you know, now as a provider, let
me give you just a small example. I sent a
prescription to one patient a very unusual medication. Patient has
a very specific disease process that is very uncommon, but
it's in psychiatry and it develops in little girls as
(24:29):
they're just up to about eighteen months old. I'll just
tell you all what it is, you know, the big secret,
but it's called Reht syndrome. And in Rehet syndrome, the
child usually it's females develops and becomes very delayed, slurred speech,
slow speech, and is so childlike even with cognitive development,
(24:51):
has growth issues, malformations and things like that. But I
was fortunate a parent found me and I've been treating her,
and the parent wanted to try one of the rare
drugs that used for ret syndrome. So it was fine
to prescribe it. And I did some research on it
and she tried it and she really didn't care for it.
Worked for about a little over a month for her daughter.
(25:11):
Do you know by me prescribing one one time, the
sales rep found me, wanted to get my business, wanted
to educate me more. So let me tell you the connection.
It's like a web and they the whole connection from
you know, let's just say big Pharma all the way down.
It's kind of creepy, like you prescribe one med one time.
(25:35):
Maybe I did prescribe it to her for about two
three months, But this is one patient in a CE
that company sent their rep to swoop down on me,
and it was incredible. I'm like, how did you know
I prescribed it? I mean, of course, how did you know?
Because they tracked a track and isn't that what we've
done in COVID. We all got up, we all got
set up with contact tracing, we all got set up
(25:57):
with when you give your When you got COVID, they
tracked who got what dose of remdesverr. It's all tracked.
So we created this huge database that all they have
to do is go in and see who has what genetics,
who has what this, who had what drugs, who had
adverse outcomes, who's still alive? And then take that for
(26:18):
each vaccine that people got. We are like puppets to
the master puppeteer of the global elitist You know, does
that not freak people out? It freaks me out because
I don't like anybody to know what I'm doing unless
I wanted to know.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
And you know, when I first learned about the global
elites who had this master plan to create a one
world government back in the early nineties, So it's been
over thirty years since I first became aware of that,
and I can tell you I did not want to
(26:51):
believe it. I mean, it really was hard. I did
not want to believe it because consequences of that and
what were planning to do, because it would become a
totalitarian government. Uh. It's like you just don't want to
go there, your mind does not want to go there,
and Georgia will yeah. But you know, for me, I
(27:14):
mean partly because I guess truth is one of my
highest core values. So it's like, all right, I want
to know what is it about this? How bad is it?
But I was convinced, uh that this was not just
a conspiracy theory when I started looking at the documentation
(27:34):
that a particular author speaker was presenting, and he came
uh to uh to understand that this big plan existed.
And when I looked at his documentation, I mean, we're
talking about what they call primary source documents, which are
documents that you know, uh, like for government documents for example,
(27:59):
or the a particular organization has a certain agenda, a
certain plan, a certain certain mission, and you know, there
are their own documents spell out this is what we
plan to do. Yeah, And so those are the primary
source documents that they themselves wrote, or just you wrote
(28:21):
a document, you know, admitting to something that was wrong
or if I did that, you know, that would be
a primary source documents. That's some of the best evidence,
some of the strongest evidence. And so when I saw
how many primary source documents this author and speaker was
basing his his own book on that I read, uh
(28:45):
you know, that kind of blew me away and I realized,
you know this, this is true. This is what they
themselves are saying they are planning to do, and that's
going to do it. And and then you know later on,
of course, at that time they were more secretive about it.
And so that's where the term conspiracy theory comes in.
(29:10):
And when you when you learn that this group of
global elits over many many decades, actually going back hundreds
of years in your so forth, but in our country,
you know, still this has been very long in the coming.
It didn't just start up in the last you know,
(29:30):
five ten, fifteen years ye mak, Yeah, many many decades
worth that has taken to get to this point. And
COVID is significant because as the Klaus Schwab, you know,
the was until recently the chairman and one of the
(29:51):
founders of the World Economic Forum, this group of elites
that just kind of self appointed themselves to you know,
dictate how the world is going to go and what
should happen. You know, they so you know, they would
come out these statements, and Klaus Schwaid came out with
(30:11):
a book called COVID The Great Reset. And so COVID
was supposed to be because it was a very disrupted
event or series of events throughout the whole world. It
was intended to set the stage for this transition into
(30:33):
the global government that they've been planning for so long.
And uh, but the plan got interrupted a little bit
when Donald Trump got elected the first time. So I
kind of yeah, and then but these people are very determined,
(30:53):
you know, and oh yeah, yeah, and so they don't
let up, and they have stress and tactics that they'll
they'll do whatever it takes, you know, no holds barred, legal, illegal,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
And so you know, when you start to understand these
kinds of things and what it is you have to
come up against, you know, what we have in our
to our advantage is strengthen numbers. Because there are as
many people as there are who are carrying out, you know,
their agenda, there's a whole lot more of the rest
(31:31):
of us.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
So the more that know what's going on, the better
we can be prepared and stand up and just say no,
I'm not going to do that, and you can recognize.
That's why I was able to recognize back in twenty
twenty when things got started earlier in the year, I got, yeah,
(31:54):
this just looks like another one of their you know scams. Yeah,
I mean, who know where, who knew where it was
going to go or how it would end up. But
it just smell the rat right from the beginning. So
I never bought into that. And then even in twenty twenty,
I there were some doctors who were talking about the
(32:18):
vaccines and the dangers of the vaccines that were in
the works and warning people not to get them. And
so I heard their warnings and thought, well, I wasn't
planning to get the vaccine anyway, but I assure as heck,
I'm not going to now. And you know, so there
was information that was available then, but you know, not
(32:41):
everybody was listening to those sources that they were still
listening to the corporate media and getting their news from
there or the social media giants. So it's like, if
we really want to protect ourselves and know how we
can you know, survive and thrive no matter what they're doing,
(33:04):
you know, we have to you know, look away from
the corporate media. Look at what there's so much in
the uh, in the independent media, you know, like shows
like yours and now there's so many great interviews with
experts and so many resources and uh, just a lot
of documentary films, books. I mean, there's there's just a
(33:28):
ton of information that is available to help people get
up to speed on what's really going on. Yeah, and
that's people have.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
To want to. Yeah, you like, such people that have
their head in the clouds, like they just don't even
want to really think about stuff like this, and so
you know they're going to be kind of blindsided, I guess.
But they're also going to be those folks that just
they'll not they won't understand, you know, what's happened or
what's happening or what comes over you know them physically
(34:02):
sickness and all that. And you know, but you're right,
you know, the first few, I guess, first two or
three years in, you know, there were some very sudden,
odd depths of some prominent people internationally physicians that were
speaking out against the you know, just against COVID and
about how COVID was being treated. And some of those docs,
(34:23):
you know, they just randomly appeared dead, you know, And
so the more of us that know and talk about
things and get the word out, you know, there is
kind of like that safety element and numbers, and I
think exposing stuff like like you have in your book
and you've got such great, you know, research behind it
that people can't just take this and go listen. This
isn't just Sally writing up a little conspiracy conspiracy theory.
(34:48):
You know. It is well documented with references. I mean,
like you got a whole page just on one chapter,
you know, of references. So this is well well well
documented and verified. And see like we I don't see
this on the news, but we hear narrative, we hear
rhetoric and you know, shifting off. Like I just had
a patient today telling me how they're so afraid they
(35:09):
want to flee the country because they're taking out people
that are you know, born and raised here. And I said,
what are you listening to? You know? And I said, certainly,
I can't tell you firsthand that, but I can tell
you what I'm seeing and hearing. And I'm going you're
listening to one side of the news. You're listening to
one narrative and to your point too, Sally. You're right,
(35:32):
you know, with what they put out there, propaganda wise,
it's meant to twist and coerce and put fear in people.
And we've got to look past that. If it doesn't
look right, sound right, we probably should do some deeper diving.
And folks like you and I, you know, we're not
out on a Fox News you know. I know, I
sure want to get myself out on that one of
(35:54):
those those networks. I would love to be able to,
you know, just chit chat for a few minutes. But
what we do have is we've got America's real network,
you know, real news network. That's a link X. We've
got people that are out there speaking podcasts like this.
You know, We're trying to get real, real information out
to people. That's why people have to get your book.
(36:15):
When your second book coming out, are how close are we?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Gosh, how hopefully by the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Okay, but time to read.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
This one, Yes, yeah, there's time to read this one.
And I was trying to write the second book in
such a way that it would stand, you know, by itself,
without people necessarily having had to read the first book.
But book such an important foundation uh, you know, exposing
(36:47):
a lot of the specific lies and deceptions, misrepresentations, censorship,
just you know, so many things. I mean, you just
can't imagine how many ways they have to or how
many points there are to lie about or cover up
(37:10):
or yeah, press.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Well here's a question though, and you've got it written
in here. You know, the dangers of vaccinated pilots, drivers
and others. I mean, there is reason to be concerned.
You know, I'm one to try to calm a person's anxiety.
But what do you think about this? Like, because we
have had several plane accidents lately, but I'm not sure
that they've been really by a pilot going down. It's
(37:34):
been through pilot sharp thinking to avoid an error or
you know, accident. But what do you think about the
drivers and pilots.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I mean, it is a real serious problem to be
considered because there have been a lot more. In fact,
there were some things, some points I had in that
chapter originally and I took them out because I thought
this is a little too much.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, once you left out, can you share any kind.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Of what other pilots are saying about what they're experiencing
with their fellow pilots in terms of adverse reactions to
the vaccines.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
And I mean while it hearsay or what can we
say about it that we can't confirm or deny.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, no, I mean because they would report like how
many different I forget what they call it, but there
would be certain number of reports every month if a
pilot was in distress or something that after the shots
came out, that number just rose exponentially.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Do you remember it? I mean you try to hide
it though this is just a random event.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, and yeah, and so the public you know, doesn't know.
But fortunately we've been very fortunate that there haven't been
more plain incidents than there have been, because there have
been some pilots who have had emergencies in the cockpit
that you know, the mainstream media is not going to
report those. But one thing I want to emphasize here
(39:10):
is both in the first book and the new book
I'm writing, you know, it's so important to encourage people
not to be fearful. You know, it's important to know
the truth though, because you can't protect yourself fully if
you don't know the truth about things. And you know,
the government and those behind this whole agenda are trying
(39:33):
to instill fear because they know that people will react
to fear in a way that leads them down the
path they want them to go. But that always turns
out to be a trap. So it's like we're a
pawns in a game that they're playing, you know, and
they're using us, and you know, maybe it'll help some
(39:56):
people to think of it that way that I don't
like to be used by people. You know, I'm not
gonna let them do that to me anymore, you know,
whatever it takes. But you know, especially this is and
this is where God comes in the picture. You know,
if if we know what the issues are and what
the plan is, we can be better prepared to protect
(40:18):
ourselves ahead of time, because when you're prepared for something,
then there's there's much less reason to be fearful. But
if you're not prepared and something catches you by surprise,
then you're easy to be made fearful and let down
a path that you really don't want to go down.
But they're directing you down the path they want. And
(40:40):
these global globally leads do not have our best interests
at heart, you know. Period, that's what people need to understand.
They are working against us you know, their agenda seeks
to weaken us in every possible way, you know, financially, relationally, emotionally, physically,
(41:00):
you name it to weaken us, harm us, disable us,
or kill us. And eventually you know that they have
a massive depopulation agenda. But you know, if you know
God and you've got a close relationship with God personally,
I'm not talking about religion, you know, I'm talking about
(41:21):
a personal relation, Reid, that's a whole different thing, and
that's an adventure and that's something to get excited about
because God is amazing, but he's gotten a bad rap.
And you know when you when you read my first
book and you see all the things that they've lied
(41:41):
to us about, well it makes you wonder what else
have they lied to us about? And one of the
other big things they've lied to us about is all
things God. So that's why a lot of people resist God.
They don't want to even from don't even believe he exists,
or they see God as you know, some kind of
(42:05):
being that is totally different than what is it actually like.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Well, I can tell you this confidently, there was nothing
else that was going to save my button. Getting out
of the hospital other than God, no doctor, no one,
No one helped me. No one knew how to help me.
And that's why I'm here today because that was my deal.
When I prayed to God and the ICU, I said,
just look, I want to make a difference. And I
(42:29):
think I told you this just one day, one person
at a time, and so yeah, we do have to
put our faith in God. I think that's extremely important
and we do. You know, you got to get back
to basics, folks. You know we all got here. We're
here for a reason. We're here for such a time.
And Sally I introduced you to hopefully you and Tom
from Alpha Omega Energy will get a chance to really connect.
(42:49):
Maybe I'll get the three of you on the show
once you guys talk. But Tom has been a resource
of information to me and a lot of times we
share because I want to leave folks with some hope
and some ideas too, you know, not to live in fear.
Tom and I had talked about using anecetyl systeine, acetic acid,
citric acid. Those are some of the things that you
can use in your daily routine. Again that he has
(43:12):
you know, been able to find ways to help break
that cycle for those that are vaccinated, and I'll have
him back on so we can talk more about But
like the suggestions are, you know, incorporate glucothione in your diet,
nitric oxide some people have gotten those in some supplements.
Always recommend nanokinase and NEAD is wonderful, wonderful naturally occurring
(43:37):
transmitter in your body that we don't make enough of
as we get older, and the more you can infuse
nano NAD was very powerful in helping to heal my lungs.
I got at IV. But there's lots of things folks
can look into, and you know, there's websites that are
out there. There's all kinds of things out there. So
it's not it's not a dark message folks today. The
messages stay informed. The message is go get your resources.
(43:59):
If you want resources, I will tell you one of
the organizations if you want to learn more about all
of the madness and the betrayal, the hospital homicides and depths.
Working with the group. That's where I do. A trauma
group out of Betrayal Project USA dot org. It's Betrayal
Project USA dot org. We have launched national campaign. We're
(44:23):
getting more and more we must have over two thousand
stories of victims, and beyond that, we do a weekly
show on x We've partnered with other people that are
out there, and they're from all walks of life. These
aren't all medical people. So these are people that are
sharing stories like what we're sharing Sally, you know, and
we have all kind of come together to get the
(44:44):
word out so more and more people can link in
and learn about what we've learned and how to stay safe,
protect and protect your families. We've only got just a
few more minutes. Any final thoughts you want to get
out to folks, You got a minute to kind of
give us your words of wisdom?
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Okay, well I would I would say that because of
there are still various aspects of this agenda that are
being carried out, and uh, it's like full speed ahead,
and so we need we need to try to reach
as many people as possible who aren't yet awakened to
(45:21):
these dangers and who you know, reacted in fear and
we don't want we can't have them reacting in fear.
We don't want them to react in fear again and
feeling unprepared and and and that kind of thing. And
so you know, it's it's incumbent upon like all of us,
(45:42):
to do even a little bit to try to reach
some of those people you know in the movable middle,
you know especially, and you never really know who's going
to respond uh in a favorable way and and who's not.
So you know, I want to just strongly and courage people.
You know, if you do nothing else, just share some
(46:04):
kind of resource, whether it's it's my book or somebody
else's book or something can just actually put into somebody's hands,
you know, even anonymously if you need to, and you know,
and and pray you know that they will read even
a little bit, because that was why this book was written,
(46:26):
you know, was to help waight people up and to
present an overview of the key issues with enough evidence
for people to see that you know, this is a
solid point. This is solid evidence. It's not just claims
that people are making that aren't based on any evidence,
or that are based on real flimsy evidence. I mean,
(46:49):
this is you know, solid evidence. And so just trying
to put together the key issues, bring it all together
in one resource, and so people don't have to listen
to ten billion interviews or documentaries or Cupstech articles. I'll
try and put the key things all together.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
It is. It's packed, so you know, and again I
so appreciate you Sally. Folks. If you want to get informed,
you know, you got to get out there. Get Sally's
book on Amazon. You can get my book on Amazon
too if you want to. You know, follow up. Lots
of people seem to have questions after the show, so
just going on to the qres page that Rebel will
(47:28):
put up there and listen. Not to be outdone. You know,
we've got more exciting guests to come your way. Sally.
Thanks again, we got to have you back. We do
even more talk and I know it's piqued the interest
to people. But get her book, get the book, get informed.
Appreciate you guys. Thanks so much for being the viewers
out there. I really appreciate the feedback you guys share.
So thanks again, and we will see you next Thursday,
same time, three pm. And hopefully I will get one
(47:52):
of our infamous guests on and you'll love what our
dialogue is next week. So y'all take care, have a
great weekend. A
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.