A Thing and a Mess

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, Hey, it's shar and this is Denver, and we're
just like that, Welcome to the unofficial recap podcast for
Max's original series. And just like that, We're so excited, Denver.
You're ready, I'm ready, all right, so let's get things started.

(00:24):
All right, we are back Denver. We are at episode
ten already.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I can't believe it. It's flying better than you know.
It's interesting.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I've seen a lot of discourse about this season and
how campy it is and how kind of like difficult
it is to watch. And I've seen like a lot
more articles about just how people are kind of like
hate watching it.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Right, They've been doing that for three seasons now, it's
it this season.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I feel like it's more intense this season. But I
say all that to say I think in the last
week or two I've seen people watching it on different
social feeds, and people have been people have been really
liking it, at least the last couple episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
So maybe I will say.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
That I'm always shocked when when someone who I would
not expect to watch it, I see like a hot
take from yeah, like, oh you watching just like that?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, you know, I think more people are watching it
than I think want to admit it to the public,
but they.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Really do get on my nerves with that. I remember
our last season of doing this show, we had gotten
a few comments about that, and I don't know if
high Kenzo, if you're like me, like, there's not anything
that I hate watch, I don't think, like I have
better things to do with my time.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, I'm trying to think. I don't think there is either. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I mean my thing is if I don't like it,
I'll stop it and then I just won't pick it
back up.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I try to watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I tried to watch The Old Guard too the other day,
and it just it took so long, and it's been
so long since the first one.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I was like, you know what, I just don't care anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
And as much as I love to be a part
of the conversation, there are so I don't have to
be a part of everyone. Like I missed the Game
of Thrones bus, you know that that wasn't my cup
of tea.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
You know, I don't watch Love Island. I never seen I.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, I missed the Love you know what. At one point,
I was like, I'm gonna just do the synopsis, you know,
there's like YouTube synopsis videos, because I just learned this
morning that that show came on every weekday except Wednesday.
I can't. The same with Big Brother, I can't. I
can do once a week, once a week, I can't.
I can't watch even the shows that I love, I

(02:21):
can't unless it's a talk show I can watch five
days a week.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
But anyway, nevertheless, never.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I would shout out to those of you on YouTube.
The YouTube comments have been blowing up something Denver. You've
responded to a few. You all are hilarious on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
They cracked me up, hilarious And it's so funny because
I'll have like a I have a tap up from
when I uplow like the last episode, and I just
keep up on my computer just because, And so when
I'm closing out of the stuff I'm using, I'll see
it and then it's a refresh and I'll say, oh,
there's actually comments here, and now go through real quick
and yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, last week was was kind of crazy. So if
you all aren't watching, head on over to our tube
and check us out. And if you know you're maybe
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anywhere you get your podcasts, so check us out. Are
you ready to get into our one and only speak
pipe this week?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
You only got one. This is from Cameron.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Hi, Sharon Denver. Finally it is hot than me. I'm
so excited. Carrie finally stood up and told that man
to pack his duffel and go back to Virginia because
what was he bringing to the table other than that
coffee table. He was manipulative, He had family drama, like

(03:40):
the d couldn't have been that good. I do have
a question for y'all.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I'm wondering, have.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Y'all ever watched the extras, like the behind the looks
that they do for every episode. I saw for this
episode at the very end when Carrie's went in that
dress and she's meeting him at the at the little
restaurant meaning the girls, She's wearing this dress with this
like I said that you said it was a oversized
boyfriend sweater, but it looks like the sweater that Duncan

(04:08):
is wearing. They were like it was just a coincidence,
But I don't know. I mean, Carrie needs to get
out of denial and realize there is something there with Duncan.
Whatever it is. I think she's gonna try next episode,
but we'll see. All right, let me get into this review.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Thank you, Camra, Thank you Camra, and I mean you're
you're quite the fortune teller. Go ahead, Denver.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
I normally don't watch them, but for some reason, well
not from her, not for some reason, but my Instagram
feed will give me like little snippets and tidbits of
like the extras. And I did see they had like
a side by side of Duncan's cardigan and then there
was the same cardigan that Carry was wearing.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I was up, I think you sent that to me.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'm almost They.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Were like it was just a wardrobe decision, nothing more.
And I was like, that would have been cute. Yeah,
it's something to work with.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
It would have been cute. But that that was not
the case. I noticed that. Yeah, my algorithm has been
There's been a whole bunch of and just like that,
theories and means and hot takes and articles. And I
did see that the cast three of the cast members
from Next Gen NYC on Bravo. We're on watch what

(05:13):
happens live, and Andy asked them, does gen Z care
about and just like that, and they were like, what's that.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
One of the girls, I think one of those is like, well,
some of my friends watch it.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, Jia, Teresa Jiudice's daughter said.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
That, which makes sense because she's grown anyway.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
So yeah, yeah, well are you ready to dive in?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Thanks Cameron for uh for calling in and to answer
your question. I didn't. I don't think I answered. But no,
I don't watch the extra. It's few and far in between. Denver.
You never. You still haven't gotten around to get in
the house tour.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I started it, though, oh you started it. I started
it and then happened. Then I had to like stop.
I think an email came in and then my mind
switched to something else.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
So it's a lot happening.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I just realized my mic was far from my mouth,
so I hope I don't across the room. Okay, So
here we go. We open up this episodead and I
felt it was so appropriate because the seasons are changing.
We are transitioning from summer to fall. We know, we
know that August first starts tomorrow, even though in LA
Fall doesn't hit until Halloween.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, I was talking to somebody yesterday I can't remember who.
I think it was the dentist. He was talking about
how we haven't really gotten like our big hot La summer. Yeah,
it's coming, it's just everything's delayed.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
It's delayed.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Everything's delayed October November. It's going to.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Be an inferno.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Just like they say we don't have a summer song,
and I say, the summer song is Darling Home. Nothing
be subject to holiday.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
You might be right, right, that's the song of the summer.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Because when I was on TikTok, I share every last
one of those that I see except one one of them.
I was like, I had to scroll so fast because it.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Dealt with the people doing it in the office.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
No, it was a rat. It was a rodent oh
popping out on someone. And I was like, I can't.
I couldn't even watch it. I couldn't even watch it.
But so, yeah, the seasons are changing, and it's like
I said, we're transitioning into autumn, and Carrie is narrating
and this is she's she's basically reading aloud to us

(07:14):
her book still as she's been doing this season, and
This episode started out with the mantra, if you will,
she had done all she could, She had done all
she could. She had done all she could, which is
how she ends one of her chapters. Duncan is giving
her feedback. I should mention that he is over he's
over her place.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So he's over there, he's over there, and it's furnished.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I didn't realize that it was fun.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Maybe there's chairs, there's tables everywhere, there's rugs, there's accent pieces.
She's been putting in some work in that house.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Well, I mean, part of the spiel was that you know,
she she was launched into being super productive, which I
was like girls saying, and I know that I conquered
the world after a heartbreak.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
And the hair was laid as usual. Something about the
hair this season has been taking SENTI me through and.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I wonder if they got a new hairstylist. And I
noticed that Duncan, of course, was being his usual self,
being highly complimentary to carry like he's complimenting he's got
all the good things to say. One thing that I
did notice is in his feedback of this chapter, there's
a line that says that the man that the characters
in love with the man, made it back from the

(08:21):
war but died from a wound from the previous battle.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah. I thought that was so smart.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
And I just want to say about the entire episode,
I think they're writing this episode was fantastic. Yeah, it
was fantastic. But that that line in particular, I was like,
I said.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh, you pick it. You're picking up what we're putting down, which,
by the way, I saw you laughing on on one
of the YouTube comments that said Aiden thinks about Big
more than Carrie does.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
In the and he did.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
He does Carrie Big. John James Preston has not crossed
Carrie Bradshaw's mind since season one. Well, no, sinse Yeah,
because remember she was reading her book and the last
last season the book was about grief and so.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
But this quip to Anthony time, I was never married,
neither was I, you know, which.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Is about Yeah, talks about Nonetheless, Duncan mentions that he's
approaching his deadline and he's a little behind because he
spends so much time helping Carrie, and he mentions how
many pages she's been able well, she mentions how many.
He mentions how many pages that Carrie's basically been able
to crank out within these past few weeks because Sis

(09:26):
is locked in right like she kicked into being productive
motivation now. Also in this scene, I have this in
my notes. I don't think I've ever tasted scotch really?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Have you?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah? Oh yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
What does it taste like?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Is it light or dark?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's dark.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's really refined whiskey like it's scotch. There's a couple's
like Irish one that I've had.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I've had Irish whiskey, like James.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Said, Irish scotch too. Maybe not Jameson.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Jameson has gotten me in trouble. We gotten me in
a lot blackout trouble.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
No.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean Scotch is usually expensive, so that when when
it's like it's scotch worthy, I'm like, that's right.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Gotcha, gotcha. Maybe I'll make that part of my that
feels like that doesn't feel like a summer drink. Maybe
I'll add that to my to my fall roster. Try scotch.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
That'll be all my I mean, if you ever go
out with the man he likes cigars, then you end
a bit of cigar bar And don't ask me how
I used to end up at cigar bars all the time,
but happened.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Won't be there. I'm very aiden when it comes to smoke. Okay,
unless it's you know, the the marijuana, but that's that's
a hard I don't even like the hood rat side
of me that that this audience doesn't.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Know what's in that cup right there.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh, this is just some jasmine tea with honey. That's right, Yeah,
it's very appropriate. I have to be Before we started recording,
I was telling Denver, I have to be up so
early tomorrow for for something I'm doing for work, and
I don't know what I'm wearing. So no, I'm not
indulging in any anything.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm dry.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Oh no tequila for you tonight.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
No, I haven't had to kill it two episodes.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean I took over the
weekend and then okay, that was it, shody. But one
thing about this scene I noticed is his voice in
this particular scene really like it's something about it.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
It just it was getting to me. M I don't
know what.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, Duncan went ahead and put it out there that
he said I wonder and then he kind of drew back.
He kind of withdrew Carrie's like, no, what is it?
And then he says, I wonder what I'd be reading
if Aiden was still in the picture basically, and then
you know, apologized if he you know, stepped over the line.
And Carrie says, I have no idea, but she does
acknowledge that she wouldn't be as far in the book,

(11:43):
in the book writing process as she's gotten if Aiden
was still in the picture.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
And that was cute because it was right after like
their little like kind of banter back and forth. I
was like, I wonder what he would be reading if
Aiden was still in the picture, because he kind of
got her together a little bit.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, because the woman would be doing something different chapters.
And I do like the way that that Carrie and
Dunk and flirt. It's very quippy. It's very fast on
your toes, it's very it's it reminds me of people
who use arguing as flirting. This is what they think they're.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Doing exactly, and it's not that exactly.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Like you're legit arguing with me, you're insulting me.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Actually, I'm supposed to find it cute.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
This is what you think you're doing, but you're not.
It's an art to this.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
There is an art and during this, you know, when
when they kind of separated at the end of their
little conversation, I was wondering, like, I wonder how Duncan
feels like going back down to his dungeon now that
he's been up and carry his grand palace.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Well, he hasn't gone upstairs yet.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Let me see there you get yeah, you see.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's so like yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I would
be instantly ordering some some lamps and some but I
mean he's about to leave anyway, So.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Like, why haven't we been doing this up here this
whole time? Well but we don't why.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
But you know, sometimes you you want to be able
to man's we know, Carrie. So our next scene, Steve
is back Miranda. That's immediately who I thought of that
girl who goes viral imitating this actor. Steve is back
Miranda Brady. The whole family's together and they are gearing
up for a lovely family dinner that Brady was in

(13:19):
their slave and over. It's like, now, I didn't shard
and write down the menu this time, but I remember
something like black and cor Rocallini.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
It yeah, it looks good, it looks great.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Actually it did, it did, and the portions the plating. Okay, Brady,
And so Brady reveals that he's quitting Scout, which is
his father's restaurant, and he's going back to school instead,
and he's enrolled in culinary school. And I love that.
I love when this show references real life, real world things.
Because Steve, of course credits this to The Bear. He's

(13:51):
like it said, Damn, show.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
The Bear with another one, another one I've never seen.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I saw the first season, and I have not felt
compelled to. But I liked the first season, but I've
not felt compelled to, Like, Damn, I gotta catch up
season two. Like I feel like I saw what I
needed to see, which, by the way, I screamed. A
new movie that's coming.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Out, which one I don't know what can I talk
about it?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, I mean it's coming out. Iowa Debriss in it.
You know, she's in The Bear as well. It's the
new movie is called like After the Hunt. It stars
Julia Roberts, Iowa Debris, Andrew Garfield. It's a wild ride wilde.
It's not a thriller, it is. It's kind of artsy, fartsy.

(14:35):
It takes place on the campus of Yale. There's lots
of books, alcohol and cigarettes, wats and no, is that
her other film when she's like the music journalist or something. No,
and luckily this was this is more.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Of like a drama because yeah, I'll just leave it there.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I enjoyed it for what it was. But nevertheless, so
he references, you know, the Bay and uh, Miranda makes
a joke about I think she says, doesn't she say
something about DNA, and Brady's like, I'm glad that you
want to bring this up. And I'm so tired of
hearing things about DNA and genetics and damn you, Sidney Sweeney, damn.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
You ended the video. I use that sound. I did
a video of me and Kenzo about how jeans are
passed down. I didn't go.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I was like, maybe I shouldn't do this because people
are really really upset about it.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, I mean, and rightfully so, because if you squint,
and then I don't know what the hell dunkin Donuts
was doing as well.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
I mean, I mean I get it in context of
the commercial, you know, like the Brookshields reference, Like, I
get right, of course, but when you said it in
today's climate, it's like, mm.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
She's blond haired, blue eyed, and then white House came
out in her defense and there was she didn't push back.
She still hadn't said nothing. So I'm like, don't ruin
euphoria even more for me. I'm already like on a
on the ledge with that show, and I'm anticipating the
final season because Hans Zimmer is composed the music right,
so like but nevertheless, so she makes this joke and

(16:05):
Brady just kind of casually drops, like he reveals that, oh,
I should mention that Steve got ecstatic and mentioned the bear.
But Miranda is bouncing off the wall. She's like, yes,
my baby about to be degreed. Like her reaction. She
wants him in school and not working at Scout of course.
But then Brady reveals that he got someone pregnant. Damn, Brady,

(16:27):
he is twenty years old. We should mention he got
someone pregnant. It's a girl who he hooked up with
maybe once or twice. He was highly intoxicated both times.
It happens, and he only knows her first name.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Also, it happens, yeah when you're twenty. Yeah, I'll say
when you're twenty.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Things like that can happen. Things like that can happen.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I think that, I uh, I mean, well, I got
a posey there because Miranda in the nun Hello, Well.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, Mary, I like to know. I'm not a fan.
I need to know name, like it's a safety thing
for me, just in case I got to track you down,
you know.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
But yeah, Brady's out there living his best New York
City life. We learned that this girl's name is Mia,
and Miranda is instantly stressed. Steve is upset, and Miranda
gets puts her lawyer hat on and starts this line
of questioning how far along is she? Are you sure
it's yours? And Steve b rates, like Steve, I've never

(17:28):
seen Steve that angry.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Before, neither. I didn't even know the guy who played
Steve had that range. I don't know he could go there, yeah,
because he and he's never been that mad with Miranda.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
No, no, he is not. And he went off and
I thought about conversations around things like this, because he
kept driving home like you just ruined your life, You
just ruined your life, which I think for Steve, the
character Steve, was a primal response. Of course, there was
no thought behind this he really hurt Brady's feelings, but

(17:59):
I did kind of jumped back when he said, if
you shrug one more time, I'm gonna lay you out.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I said, well, well, I mean I can't say that.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
You know, my momma wouldn't have had the similar reaction.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Honestly, I wasn't expecting that from Steve, though.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I mean it's in New York.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Wait, you said your family had that reaction two years ago.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
No, no, no, no, no, I said, some of my family.
My family wouldn't have had that same, more similar reaction
twenty years ago. You know, maybe not so much now
because you know, therapy and growth or whatever, but.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, I mean same, same, and so uh yeah. But
what I thought was funny is this scene, of course
paralleled the origin story of how we got Brady.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
And I didn't really clock that until Steve kept.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Going on and on about uh huh, you know, having
a she's having a baby by somebody, she does want
to be with another.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
But then he shot back and said, I loved your
mother and I knew her last name. You have messed
up your entire life, and then I have dinner is over.
Miranda has clearly lost her appetite she pushes her plate
away and dinner is over.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah he should have told her after dinner, told them
after dinner.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah he should Yeah, he should have. I agree, I
didn't think about that. He should have.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
He should have.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Our next scene is one of my favorites of this
entire episode. One of my favorites, but it's the three
way call between Miranda, Charlotte, and Carrie. I just loved
this scene. I loved the lighting, I loved the optics,
I loved the music. I loved the conversation and Miranda,
which I also thought was funny. I don't know if
you're like this, but like I'm facetiming my friends. I

(19:37):
cannot remember the last time I was on a group call.
I've been plenty of group facetimes, though.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we've talked about this. I
don't FaceTime. You're probably one of the only people. Yes
that's face time is me, and I answered, I will FaceTime,
but I don't.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
I don't FaceTime. I'll call for.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Sure, big, big, big facetimer. I cannot recall the last
time I spoke to like my mama or my sister,
like my family, my father on the phone. Every single
call is a FaceTime and I know for me it
started in lockdown, it started five years ago, and I
just it's something that I never let go. It's one

(20:12):
of those things for me, like you never know when
the last time you're gonna see somebody like I like to,
I don't know. It's connective tissue for me, better than
a phone call.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
I saw this thread. It was either on threads or
Twitter or something, and a teacher was saying, how jen
Alpha is going to save us? Because she asked her
classroom with eighth graders how they communicate and they don't text.
They either call or FaceTime and she asked why, and
I guess they were like, number one, it's a lot faster. Yes,
you can understand tone that doesn't come across the text.

(20:43):
One girl said, you know, if I'm telling you something,
I don't want there to be a record of what
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
So if I tell you you can't try it.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I guess because we're in a surveillance state, the kids
are kind of wise enough. Yeah, yeah, the shit that
we knew. And I thought that was interesting. I was like,
is a pendulum going to swing back the other wayossibly,
especially with AI and shit.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
We can't trust on the internet.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
You know, you got to pick up the phone and
get somebody face to face to know what they mean.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
And even then, where we're going, you don't know if
you're going to be talking to them or you talking
to a damn scammer, because I've definitely read stories about
people who have gotten scammed with fake face times. I'm
talking about bank account liquidated, you know so. But I
do love that, and I agree I prefer face times.
I mean, I prefer phone calls or face times when

(21:30):
I need an immediate answer. I don't need you. I
don't need to hear back from you in two hours.
I want to know now you know so? And you
can you can, really what's the word I'm looking for?
You can just shorten the conversation something from Towers can
go to thirty seconds, you know, instead of going back
and forth.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Get it done.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
But now, yeah, so she's telling them the t Charlotte,
of course, is dramatic, like they all lean into their stereotypes.
Charlotte is dramatic. Carrie gets very analytical, like Carrie's the
grounding in this conversation. I love that, love that scene.
So then we get our next scene, which is Giuseppe
and Anthony. They're getting hot and heavy jump scared.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Really baby, I look down at my notes of type.
I looked up and I just had Anthony's asked in
my screen, and I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's not bad for a fifty sixty something year olds.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
No, it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
It took me a second. I think I was taken
it back by the idea, and once yeah, it was,
my eye settled. I was like, okay, all right, cool,
not that bad.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, this this scene was hilarious to me because there
was a sharp knock at the door, and Anthony's like,
it better not be that damn girl with them thin mints,
you know, because the girls scalps. They are real foot soldiers. Honey,
they do not wait around. It doesn't matter if it's morning,
noon or night. They gonna sell you them cookies.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
He said, don't answer the door hard, That's.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
What math is like. So Anthony's trying to adjust, and
of course when he answers the door without looking through
the peep hole, but answers the door, there's this tall
hot ire fighting and instead of down boy, it's a
ten hut. You know it's up in the air. But
in the scene we learned that the building is evacuated
because there's a gas leak. A neighbor was trying to

(23:12):
mount and mount a TV and busted a pipe, and
Giuseppe says, instead of we don't have to get a hotel,
we can go to my apartment. And Anthony is clearly
dreading this idea because I never even thought up until
this scene that Giuseppe had roommates. I assumed he lived alone,
especially all that big big talk in GEO was doing.
I thought that he lived alone.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Two things.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
When was talking, she was basically saying like, we got
to find you a decent place, you know, because I.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Guess yeah, she was looking for losts for him.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
This was terrible. And then Anthony's apartment. I remember I
commented on the kitchen last episode and I was like,
why it's so small. I think, you know, he would
have something better and bigger or whatever whatever. That's all
his apartment this episode.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I was about to say, I forgot to bring that
up because I was watching and I was like.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Apartment, It's not as bad as I thought, but it's
hard to tell. Yeah, you know, but they get you
with still trash, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
The kitten as most of them are. Well, yeah, we
learned that he has one roommate and he's an artist
who works the night shift at Whole Foods. Then we
get our next scene, which is LTW and Herbert. They
are getting ready for a press breakfast for his campaign.
Shirley the Hamster is there, which I love that LTW

(24:25):
made a joke about transference because her daughter gave her
the Hamster to watch because she's not spending enough time
with Shirley the Rodent. And we learn also in this
conversation that Friday night, this upcoming Friday night, is when
the election results will come out, and Herbert's mother is
coming to town. Mother Wexley is coming to town. LTW

(24:51):
also mentions that she's overbooked. She feels like Shirley on
a hamster wheel overbooked. And then that season ends. I mean,
that's scene ends, y'all can tell I'm tired.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Herbert didn't make a joke about fitting it in, which
kind of made my ears perk up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
But yeah, I hate well, I shouldn't say I hate him.
I don't know Herbert.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, I have a soft spot for Herbert.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I don't know why he's such a meathead.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Because he's like Tom Bald.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Maybe so he does not I mean, he's not unattractive.
I just don't like him. It's just as Carrie later says, meanness,
my meanness. I don't like him.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
So then now it's morning time and we are at
Giuseppe's place, and Anthony and him are laid up naked
in the room, and that's when we meet Giuseppe's roommate Andrew,
who walks in without knocking to show Giuseppe a marrionette
puppet that he made in Giuseppe's likeness. Crotch and all,

(25:55):
bulge and all.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
There's just no way, there's there's just as absolutely no way, Anthony.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, it's it's creepy. There's no there's no other way
to slice it. It's creepys. And I must say that
when Giseeppe mentions that his roommate is this artist that
works the night shifted whole Foods, my mind went to
someone long hair, kind of Adam, like seem as Adam,
like you know, and I wasn't thinking like artists in
that way, of course. My mind went to painting or

(26:27):
drawing or abstract art. Not no damn Geppetto, Geppetto and
Giuseppe under the same roof.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
You know, I thought that was such I can throw
away comment. I didn't.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
I didn't expect the roommate to like come into play,
like for real, for real yea, not even conceptualize him.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Until and also i've had roommate. As someone who's had
roommates before, maybe it's cultural, I've never entered a room
without knocking and getting approval and permission first. I've never
been that comfortable, not even with my siblings. Do I
do that, you know? But yeah, Anthony is freaked out
because Andrew is elderly. That's his main thing, and he

(27:06):
thinks that he, you know, got a thing for Giuseeppe.
But Gieppe reveals that Andrew that he is Andrew's muse
and Andrew's asexual. Our next scene, Charlotte is getting some
renovations done. They're banging in loud. Harry's in the other
room with the TV volume up to its maximum, yelling

(27:27):
at the screen, and Charlotte has an upcoming zoom call
with rot Ronda Portante. A psychic energy cleanse like a
psychic energy woo wool, which struck me that Charlotte didn't
go the traditional route and go to like a therapist,
right just looking at her character or.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
The aren't they like don't they? They're Jewish, right, don't they? Yeah,
it's like the rabbi when I talk to somebody.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, Charlotte's this kind of is antithetical to her traditionalism
that we've come to know her from for. But you
know that's that's what she wants to do.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
This.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
We should mention that Ronda is rude. I thought now
was Ronda time was her? And I can't remember the
actress's name.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Right now, but she thought I would, but I didn't.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
So I was wondering why they withheld it. Someone's gonna
jump on me for this, I think, if I'm not mistaken,
she's the same actress. Let me look on my phone.
She's the same actress from Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Loud Mouth, another show I've Curb is good.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I like Curb. She's loud mouthed. She's Joy Behar's best friend.
I can't think her name is drawing a blank for
me right now. Susie Esmond was that her.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I don't know what the name sounds familiar.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Uh, I couldn't tell because she's got the same Yeah,
and there's no news for her.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
This is this is her, This is Susie.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I think that's her. Yeah, it looks like her.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Well yeah, so so you weren't mad at Rhnda for
being a little rude.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Not at all.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I'm taking my time. We have an appointment. I'm doing
this for forty dollars. You have all this clanking and banging.
We can't start like.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
What I will say is if I'm getting any service
done of that nature, your camera gotta be on. Don't
play with me. I'm not talking to a black string
with your name. Your camera has to be on.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
It has to. I mean, I don't think so. I mean,
like tele it therapy, just turn it off and just talk.
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
When I did tele a therapy with therapists, I had
to look at them and I needed them to look
at me.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I put you on speakerphone, put on the table, and
I paced back and forth and just get it out.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Let us know. Are you more like me or more
like the slash were? Just like that, I'm going to
take it. You all have been very comfort with the
YouTube comments, which, by the way, have you checked out
Spotify lately? I have not.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
No, I have not.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
It's such a weird platform, right, you know. Well, no
shade to the Spotify girls lovey on desk.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, we love y'all. I don't want to derail the
conversation about the surveillance crap that they're trying to do.
But just as Charlotte's guided meditation starts, Rock and Henry
are immediately outside her door, tap dance and preparing for
the school play.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Of course they are.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Of course they are loud as hell. So Charlotte uh
asks for an extension. We should mention that this session,
what is it like fifty minutes?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, she can't find no peace. But then we get
our next scene, and I had to take a deep
breath because we are at Adam's house. My god, yea
god on high.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
John dropped.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
He is not living like I thought he would be living, Like,
how is.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Your apartment cleaner than your body?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
I do wonder what it smelled like in there.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
I mean, I don't know. He had plants, so there's
oxygen flow, windows, open air.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
It was so books gorgeous. Seema's in there asking all
the right questions. And then I screamed when I found
out that he pays nine hundred American dollars a month
for rent.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Right because and I feel like we should point out
that it was his family's apartment back in the day.
They moved in when he was ten years old and
the mom died and it went to him mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
And I was just made me was ahead.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I was just saying it was him. I believe his aunt,
his mom and his sister.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
And I was just thinking about, you know, you think
about generational wealth, and you know, things that get passed down,
you know, if your family get an opportunity to make
some money or get stable or whatever, and just how
much of that so many communities miss just by not
being able.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's such a nice way of saying that. I thank you,
thank you, because you're absolutely correct, and.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
That's it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Let me think about, of course, the fires and Altadena
and the black communities to a displaced and how a
lot of those houses have been passed down for generations
that are now gone and now they either have to
wait to rebuild or sell it and people buying it up,
and you know, just things that you don't really think about.
When I heard that nine hundred dollars price tag on
that gorgeous apartment, I just wondered how many people in

(32:22):
New York are so lucky to actually have that.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
We should also mention, not only are you correct right,
because corporations are buying up Altadena, you would be hard
pressed to find a room in New York City for
nine hundred dollars. Rooms are going for sixteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
So it's just it speaks to a whole bunch of
systemic things. It speaks to. It reminds me of this TikTok,
this brilliant TikTok that I saw, which I knew I
already knew about. But I feel, like so many of
our people, it needs to be put on the loudspeaker
because financial literacy courses are not going to save us.
We need more money, like we didn't have that to

(33:02):
your point, that generational aspect, but such any more money just.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
A lifestyle boost.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
I mean, how amazing would it be to have a
nine dollar apartment that you can afford by being.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
A gardener or a poet?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Right?

Speaker 3 (33:17):
You know, your housing is basically next to nothing, so
that you can actually live you can live why kind
of secured?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, yeah, you know, like it's.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
A girl can dream.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Well.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Also within this this beautiful living room, Adam tells Sima
all about his mother, who died of cancer when he
was twenty. And I put in my notes that this
woman was the o g Gwyneth Paltrow, I mean Birkenstock's
Essential oils, vagina, candles, all of it, Gwyneth Paltrow. Baby

(33:50):
would shout out to her.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Shout out, shout out to her that commercial.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
That was funny, I mean pure comedy. So Sema mentions
that she wishes that she could have met his mother,
and he introduces her to a plant. Now, when I
saw this, I have this in my notes when back
when I worked for an unscripted TV for Buna Murray Productions,
one of my colleagues, this was maybe ten years ago,

(34:18):
maybe eleven at this point, maybe even twelve. One of
my colleagues was preparing This was the first time I
had heard of something like this, but she was preparing
her mother. They were doing like the eco friendly burial
where you become a tree.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
She doesn't want to do. Oh my god, that's what
I want to do.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
That's I had never heard of that until my colleague.
We were crossing the street from lunch and she was like,
this is what my mother wants to do. Her mother
was sick and on her way out, and I don't
know if she got around to doing it because the
season that we worked on had ended before you know,
any news update. But I had never heard of anything
like that. So when Adam first pointed out this plant,

(34:55):
I was like, did you plant a seed and her
ashes and throw some dew grow on it?

Speaker 3 (35:00):
That's so funny. That's so funny because I saw that article.
I's an article about the tree thing like years ago.
It was like ten years ago, and I'd always had
it in the back of my mind, and it wasn't
until just recently, I want to say, maybe like a
year ago. I don't know how we got on the conversation,
but I had my mom and I had Johnte together
at the table and we were just talking about just
some random stuff, family stuff. But it was like a
really casual It just came to like over dinner. Yeah,

(35:21):
I was like, yeah, I want to be a tree,
and I kind of went through the whole thing. I
was like, you know, I don't want a funeral. I
don't want any of that. Just turn me into a tree.
Take whatever you would spend on a funeral, go on vacation,
like go just enjoyers like I don't want.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I don't want any of that.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, And if the tree thing is int feasible for
whatever reason, maybe they don't do it. Maybe it's some
stupid ass process just creaming me and go just sprinkle me,
like use me to fertilize something, and then just going
about your way.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, I'm a big fan of the cremation as well.
There is something I know that this is just a
vessel and the spirit leaves. There's just something about the
idea of burial that freaks me out.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Like I could see that, I can see it.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Just I'm like I h and also just have a party,
my best head shot. Yeah, and the party, you know,
and I gotta be all let hooping and holland and
because that's not what I would want you to do.
We talked about grief in an earlier episode, and I
always think about my friend, and you know, I allow
myself to feel what I feel. But I'm also I
also laugh sometimes because I'm like he's probably laughing at me.

(36:24):
Right now. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I thought that was
a sweet moment.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah yeah, I thought I thought she was in the plant,
like literally.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, at first I was like, oh, because of course,
because that goes along with Adam and his whole lord.
His name is Adam Karma, for God's.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Sake, and he's a gardener. Put her in the in
the plant.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
So then our next scene semen and carry her out
for a drink that looked so good. You know, I
love a good Martini child, good black of Martini. And uh,
they're just catching up. Seema is predicting that her relationship
will fail because she foresees possible issues with Adam, and
this scene was kind of funny to me because Carrie
shoots back and says, I don't see what the problem is.

(37:08):
Families that are living, that's the real threat, and seems like, yeah,
but when they're dead, they enter sainthood. They're saints, you know,
also true. Carrie then shares about Duncan and how she
could get used to having a writing partner Seaman choirs
if it could be more. And I loved this scene.

(37:28):
You know, the little the little journalist in me. When
Carrie launched into I've never experienced a man see me
as smart first, sexy, yes, cute, yes, but that's limiting.
Duncan respects my thoughts and he sees my meanness. There's
so many women yearning for that. And that's not saying

(37:49):
don't find me hot and sexy and cute. But I
think that a bedrock of respect and mutual respect is
viewing someone. It could be dehuman to be reduced to
physical attributes, right, it could be so dehumanizing and so
and there's so many men that in particularly like women

(38:10):
for one thing and one thing only. There's no respect,
there's no real care or real intimacy there outside of
sexual things. And so this is this is a conversation.
This ain't a new conversation. So I'm sure that Duncan
is like a needle in a haystack. He's tall, he's attractive,
he's accomplished, and he sees you. He really like we
see in these scenes, Duncan is locked and he hangs

(38:32):
on to carriers every last word and showers her in
compliments like that is like open the skies. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Well, and to you, I mean, to your point, I
think something that I also liked and respected about Duncan
is he saw Carrie without external validation, which we'll kind
of see later, like he was able to clock how
smart carry is, and you know, appreciate that without somebody
else having to say, hey, that you know who you're
dealing with. And of course again we'll get to it later,

(39:00):
we will, but I appreciate that. I appreciated that aspect
of just their connection.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, we also see in the scene. We also see
in the scene that seem office to carry a ride home.
She's back in business, rock Os back.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
She's good for her, and I think we should break here.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
All right, sounds good?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Cool, all right, and we are back.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, it's a quick break, and I think now we
are at Miranda and Charlotte headed down the street, and
I think you know something about what we're dealing with
in this scene. I particularly like because it's not often
that we get to see white women dealing with baby
mama drama. No, so I'm gonna let you set it
up and kind of say where we're going.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
And it's not often that we get just Miranda and
Charlotte and scenes together. Sure, that's not that common, but
as you mentioned, they're doing a walking talk and they're
going to go check out Miya, and Miranda mentions that break.
He got so mad at Steve that he moved out
and moved back in with her, and she's understandably upset

(40:05):
because she's like, what the fuck he gets this girl
pregnant and I'm a mother again, because you.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Know what's gonna happen rights just to get in her
groove back.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, just someone. I wish I could pull up the tweet.
Someone's tweet went viral because they posted a picture. Someone
tweeted a picture of Miranda and Steve back from the
OG series, and a girl retweeted and said she had
a baby that she didn't want to have, gave up
corporate law, da da da da. She listed all this
stuff and she said only for her to end up

(40:33):
being a homeless, nomadic lesbian or something like that. So
you were talking about how important it is hilarious to
really make sound decisions because Miranda, it kind of reminds
me of Lynette from Desperate Housewives. How Lynette was like
this working, you know, and then Tom comes in and
she has eight kids and never returns to corporate life
and doing what she really wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing, like you can do
everything that you think that you're supposed to do, yeah,
in your life at one point in your life, and
you get to a later point in your life and
be completely unhappy and feel like you need to blow
it up and do something else.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I have a lot of conversations like this. I met
about this when I think about the state of the
world and certain things, right, yeah, certain things in our
generation I do not. I have to free myself of
looking at them as a personal failure, because they are
a structural failure. There are systemic failure because I did
everything that was required of me, and you know, it's like,
this does not look like I thought it was going

(41:28):
to look.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
No, the world that we did them all in is
not the world that we.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Exactly, so exactly exactly isn't exactly does it exactly?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Still trying to redo stuff and let go of stuff
from twenty eighteen that just ain't. We're in a different
world now, shar Like. Nevertheless, Yeah, we get in. Once
we get into the salon, we're greeted by the receptionist Emily,
and Miranda did not do her research because she is
in there singing me as praises and saying that you know,
she heard Mia does great work, and that's what she

(41:58):
wants to see. And so eventually, you know, the receptionist
is like, it's odd that we get requests for the
shampoo girl. We should also mention that we meet Emily,
and I mean we meet Mia in this scene and
that's when we learned that she's a shampoo girl. And
she mentions that her she works there, you know, part time,
but she's really her her passion is in developing this
wellness app. I should mention that she's so stereotypically, so serious,

(42:22):
stereotypical gen z. There's vocal fry, there's a bit, there's
some airiness to her. You know, she probably does stare
gentrified gentrification.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's another way to put it.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, well, I have in my notes in all caps,
bitch Mia is gassy af because what was happening at
that shampoo ball I.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Have I have She's gassy and she's nasty. Yikes, she
is nasty.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
And so in this well while Miranda's getting her hair shampoo,
she launches into a conversation with Mia, and Maria always
takes it a step too far, like I'm a Miranda defender.
But Miranda sometimes she doesn't know how to It's like
once she jumps off the deep end, she never knows
how to swim back to shore.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
So you said, what that was a good way to
put that. Yeah, I know a lot of people like that.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
It's just too much. She takes it one question too far, right,
So she's asking her all about everything going on, and
and you know, Mia is talking about her gas and
her pregnancy, and I have in my notes that uh.
She she mentioned that she was going to get an
abortion until she realized that the baby's going to be
a double Libra.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
I don't know how to feel about that.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Oh, you're not a fan of libras.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
No, I mean I only know like two. One's my
mom and one's like a really good friend of mine
who we connect really well.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
I mean I like them. I can find them irritating sometimes,
but like I don't know what means. I mean, they're
my opposite.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
What do you call it?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
The polar Oh the sister sign. Yeah, yeah, you're either
gonna despise them or love them.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
I love like Lady Libra's not my favorite.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
I've never met a Libra that I don't like. I
like them, and I'm a Capricorn. But I always say
that Libras ain't nothing but a Leo without a mirror child.
They the same thing.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Oh that's crazy, because I love Leah. It's like I'm
surrounded by him all day long. So maybe that's why
I like the boy.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Unfortunately, so so, Miranda starts asking about the baby daddy
a little bit too much, and that's when Mea clocks her,
and Miranda confesses that I'm the fuck buddy's mother. And
that's when Mia lets that that hose, that shampoo bowl

(44:51):
hose do the talking for her because she waterboarded.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Miranda, sure did, poor lady.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah, and then throw a tall leadder and said, you
have to be a Taurus, like this girl is great.
I think Miranda is a Taurus.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
If I'm not a mistake, I'll google it, as I know.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
If she's not a Taurus, I know without a shadow
of a doubt, she is an Earth sign. I know
that much. So Yeah, Miranda pleads her case with Mia
and says, she hopes that you know the family, that
her family can have some sort of connection or involvement
in this little girl or little boy's life. And Mia
takes offense to that because it's just so binary. You

(45:30):
don't know what I'm having. That's so binary.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
So a couple of things. This says that Samantha is
a Taurus. Oh, Carrie is a Libra, Charlotte isn't Aquarius,
and Miranda is a cancer.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I do not agree with Miranda and Samantha.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I'm both big and j d as are areas.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I could see that. I could definitely see that for Chay,
so much for for for Big, Samantha definitely gives fire
sign energy. Nothing about her gives Earth sign nothing.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Sima and Harry, I said to be Leo's.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
I could see that for both of them.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Actually, Lisa is a Scorpio. I could see that, and
Anthony's a Capricorn.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
I could see. I could see that. And I'll stop
there opinionated and talk too much. Yeah, Samantha is very
fire sign energy and Miranda is Earth sign energy. She
don't give me no damn water sign. But thank you
for sharing that, by the way.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Yeah, So I just I was looking for one and
they all just kind of came up. But I heard
you go over the your sub binary comment, and I
was yeah, and I was just kind of wondering, like,
is it wrong to like identify a child for sake
of ease before they're old enough to like have enough
agency to identify themselves.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
You know what I mean. I don't think it's so bad.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I don't think it's wrong. I know people there are
extremes with this. It doesn't seem to be a middle
ground when it comes to something like this. I don't
think it's wrong. I'm not really a fan of gender
reveal parties because I look at them as a waste
of time that could be incorporated in a baby shower.
But also like you might gag you're doing a gender
reveal party, and you might gag in ten fifteen years,

(47:23):
like it just.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I mean, and I think that's fine.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
And a lot of people have died when people don't
really be dying with baby showers, gender reveal parties. I
see in the headlines on a yearly basis, planes crashing,
people losing hands, fingers, fireworks, But like it's just it's
just not a good idea.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I mean, I don't I don't like the.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Ceremony of it all, but I understand like the excitement,
you know, and it's not so much like a siting.
It's like, you know what you expect you know what
I mean, Like, oh it's you boy.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
You see one parent, one of the two parents having
a damn tantrum.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Well, that's just ignorant.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
I don't like that all the time. Like I've seen Viraul, Yeah,
because they're having little girls. I've seen women disappointed, not
because they're having little boys, but because they're having little girls.
I'm like, these babies don't even know what they what
they going into. You should just want. My view on
it is, you should just want a happy, healthy baby.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Wait a minute, because I've seen somebody and get in
trouble for that. Somebody was in the in the living
room saying, we don't care if it's a boy or girl,
we just want a healthy baby. And then somebody in
the comments was like, well, parent of an unhealthy baby,
unhealthy babies deserve love too, and it was like the
thing of whatever.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
It's like, you can't even say you want a healthy baby.
There's nothing wrong with.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
A happy baby. I want to happy you. We want
a happy baby. Because I understand that argument as well.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Get it.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
You could have an unhealthy baby and it might be
a result of because people when they see and I'm
using air quotes when I say not a healthy baby,
they look at that as a reflection of the other's
failure or something. And it could be an active patriar,
it could be any.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
I mean, if you break it down. But I think
you know, a good A good part of media literacy
is context and you know what that person saying.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
You know what I'm saying. So you're but in.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Social media land, everybody's always looking for a fight. That's
where we are today.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Everybody's because I don't play those games anymore.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Don't I used to.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I used to. I used to go back and forth
with the best of them. But now, okay, you have it.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
It's rage bait. And when you realize that, it really
boils down to so many people being unhappy and they
want you to be unhappy as well. Like that's that's
how I look at It's so many people are and
rightfully so for some of them, but to project that
it is crazy. So I ignore them as well. But
where are we at? Okay, So, so the binary comment,

(49:50):
and then we get Mia storming off, farting like hell,
like she is just too, to the point where one
of her co workers goes, Jesus, Mia.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
I mean, I'm somebody said it.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. So now we're back at Carrie's place.
Duncan is over again. And now what I do have
in all caps. I don't know if you notice this,
so let me know if you did. But there's a
new table. Yeah, there's a new table. The Aiden table
is gone. The girl was that.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
I didn't even think about that until I was like,
wait a minute, something in here, don't.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah, I saw they zoomed out. Duncan's down there waiting
on Carrie. She's upstairs fussing with the printer. And when
they zoom out, I said, that's not the Aiden table,
like sister cleared, She cleared it. Okay, So but she's
upstairs taking a long time visiting with that printer. And
this is when Duncan takes it upon himself to go
upstairs to fix the printer.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Of course, you got to be real comfortable to do that.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, but I feel like they've been spending so much
time together because we've had a fast forward with the
season or whatever. And so Yeah, goes up there to
fix the printer and they're in her office and that's
when he starts exploring and she gives him a tour
of her most prized possessions aka her closet, in her
shoe closet. I said, oh right, oh, even Aiden had

(51:14):
to ask permission.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Shot. Well.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Something I thought was interesting is he stopped just at
the entrance. He didn't just walk in. Yeah, okay, so
that's a gentleman. That is a good man right there.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Yeah, yeah he did.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
He commented on her clothes and she's like, yeah, it's
New York. We go out. And also in this scene,
he invites her to a party Tuesday that his publishing
house is throwing, and of course she accepts. Our next scene,
we see Gabby, the Wexley's daughter. She's rummaging through a
drawer in her parents' room. Poor baby, and she is
looking for Shirley child. She looking for Shirley because this

(51:48):
baby didn't let Shirley out for a walk.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Now, how did that hamster get the name Shirley? Is
it historical? Like? Is it did the baby name it?
Did the mom name it?

Speaker 1 (52:01):
With the Wexleys, you never know if it's historical. You
never everything's got a root cause it could be named
after Shirley Chisholm for all we know.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
That's what I'm thinking. That makes the most logical sense
to me. But then like, why did the girl name
it Shirley? So well, Lisa, did.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
You name it?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Shirley's out on the loose? She let her out for
a walk, and LTW snaps understandably right because as she
mentioned this this big, big house, there's a rodent. I
can't go to sleep because there's a rodent running rampant into.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Like it's a rodent, but it's a hamster.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
I mean, I know, but still didn't imagine being in
sleep and it's come forth like I just on top
of that bother me. Also it's elt for me. I
don't want to be around no gerbil, no hands and
none of it. None of it.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I stole on once story.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
No did it live?

Speaker 2 (52:49):
No, I probably brought it back.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
So when I was a kid and we would go
to the mall, my mam will go to the nelcelan
and she would like give me twenty dollars.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
I'll just walk around them all. There's a petsol would
aways go to that was.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Back in the day where you could like reach in
and like they had like mice and guinea pigs, and
I don't know, one day I decided to just grab
one and take it with me. So I took it
and I put it in my pocket. Is that a coat?
And I took it with me just around the mall,
and I had the mouse in my pocket.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Did you know?

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Did you did you just finish watching Stuart Little or something?

Speaker 2 (53:18):
No, I don't know, because I was young and stupid.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah, I had this mouse in my pocket and I
was like, I don't have any place to put it.
I don't have any food. I can't keep it. I
don't even know if I want to keep it. So
I just walked it down and put it back. But
I guess I didn't crazy sorrow.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
I used to like going in little pet shops like that,
little novelty shops like that. And I remember when I
first saw chinchilla, it freaked me out, like it scared
the shit out of me. I mean, I ended up
touching it, but it just it's big, like I don't know,
just freaked me out. Them big eyes. It's a beautiful animal,
but it just freaked me out. I wasn't expecting. I
had heard about chinchillas and you know, the music and stuff,

(53:56):
but seeing I'm like, how could you make a coat,
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
It tasts like a thousand and to make a jacket.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
You.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
No, I don't want to. I don't want to hear that.
I don't want to hear that because he is murder murder.
But yeah, LTW snaps and like I said, understandably because
she also mentions, what if, what if Shirley die? There's
nothing like you gotta use your nose to find Shirley? Like,
don't nobody want to do?

Speaker 4 (54:20):
You?

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Do you do?

Speaker 1 (54:22):
She's so little? And yeah, you'd have to use your
nose to find her, and so damn it? Where am I? Yeah,
she's She snaps and she screams Herbert. What I loved
in this scene with him is that he actually showed
up and comforted lt W.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
And he does in his own way.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
I mean, like he's kind of a dick, but sometimes
Big Herb pops out and he you know, doesn't need
what he needs to do.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
You know, I'm a big Herd for Big Herb.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
I'm big Herb when he's on it, when he's like
on his ship, I'm like, oh yeah, yeah. Then he's
acting like a little baby, like okay, little her but
big her I love Big.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Herb and then that witch of a mother in law
comes in and has the nerve to refer to LTW
as mommy dearest. I thought that was rich.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
That was rude.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Now we're back at Adam's house and Seema is in
the kitchen for a smoke break m and she opens
the window to let the smoke out, and she opens
the window and we get a beat of Mama just
hanging out in the window and then Mama plummets to
her death. She falls out of the window.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Bless her heart.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Then, since we're going scene by scene, we're back at
Charlotte with Charlotte, who's over Carrie's place for her set.
Which I thought this was weird because, oh, I don't
have the confrontation happens in that scene, right the plant
falls out of and Seema runs upstairs to tell some
reason I didn't write that down, but yeah, so that's yeah,

(55:56):
that's the button on that scene. She's freaking out. So
now we're at the next day and Charlotte is over
Carrie's place. Oh no, it's see, this is what trips
me up. It's still the same day.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
What's not.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Well? When Charlotte gets on this call, the lady mentions
that she only has twelve minutes.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Left, right because she was scheduled. But then like the
back and forth and trying to figure out.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Okay, so I was confused. Okay. So it's the next day,
Charlotte is over Carrie's place for her session with the psychic,
and then Charlotte clocks the very nice Vivian Westwood dress
that Carrie has hanging up, which shout out to the
movie which I bring up every episode because the wedding
dress that Carrie selected in that Click Flash Sierra scene

(56:36):
was Vivian Westwood, gorgeous wedding down with the bird, I
put a bird on my head. And that's when Carrie
tells Charlotte all about the party, and she confesses that
she hesitated excepting going because of Miranda, and she mentions
how she got defensive with Miranda and went off on her.

(56:57):
So spicy Carrie is checking in because we I mean,
he heavily criticized her for this.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
We did, and I mean kudos to Carrie for having
the self reflection to realize, yeah, he was defensive and
that was that actually triggered her to a point where
it's affecting her months later. Yeah, you know, to take
it all the way back to that that's impressive.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
And then we get my favorite version of Charlotte grounding
Charlotte who mentions to Carrie, listen, you know how true
you were to Aiden, but you know that's over. He's gone,
like you got this girl. I can't tell you what
to do, Miranda, can't tell you what to do. You
gon't have to lean into whatever, like you can't worry
about whatever. And I feel like that's a beautiful message

(57:37):
with just trusting we have to Well, I'm gonna group
us all in this. Sometimes things happen where we question
or learned, we start second guessing ourselves instead of leaning
in headfirst and living life on our own terms. And
because I know that this definitely happened to me, and
it is one of those things where it's your life.
You're the main character. You have to be unafraid to fail.

(57:59):
You have to be I'm afraid to you know, skin
your knee. You can't live in a bubble. You have
to try new things. You know you have to. I
can't tell you what to do. You can't tell her
what to do, like, you have to do it for yourself,
otherwise you're going to be in what is it called
functional paralysis.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Where you just yeah, I don't know, addicted.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
To playing it's safe, where you never make a move
in life.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Yeah, that's never been my story.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
But I definitely that's never been mine either. I have
gone through periods in my adulthood where I felt like
I'm in functional freeze because it's you know, when it
happens succinctly, when it's like God, I really need to
win and things just keep happening. It's like the body
learns to just predict the outcome and you just kind
of end up frozen for a few months or whatever.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
See.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
I think for me, like I've always been like the
one person I always trust myself the most. I'm always
trusted just whatever whatever I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do it.
I've been like super sure in my decisions. But I
think that as I've gotten older, that stayed the same.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
But my.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
I guess putting myself in certain chances of situations where
I had to trust myself became fewer and further in between.
I didn't lose that trust. I just I got to
a point where I didn't have anything to trust myself
in any If that makes sense o that.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
That does I stopped taking the risks. Yeah, that makes
it so.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
I feel like I'm just now at a place where
I'm getting back to like doing riskier things and just
kind of seeing what happens, which I think is cool
for me.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
It's interesting that you bring that up, because for me,
it has been the more viewpoints I taken right, the
more I was second guessing myself. I can think of
instances like one in particular, I was looking for someone
to tell me I was wrong, and so I ran
it by the whole world and everybody was like, no,
you were right, because I'd grown so conditioned to gaslighting myself. Essentially,

(59:51):
like I had wound up. I don't know how I
landed there, but I had wound up. Just like I said,
I was taking in too many, too many cooks in
the kitchen, the kitchen being up here, too many viewpoints
too to the point where I was not making a
decision without running it by eight people and getting you know,
trying to weigh it out, like just feeling very fragile
in that way, and trusting more people than I was

(01:00:13):
trusting my own. Like I had to redo my relationship
with myself because of years of emotional abuse, you know,
in varying forms and gas lighting and people telling me
it didn't happen, but it did. But what would make
it full circle is I would feel instinctively like, let's
say I felt something about somebody, like some may write
with her, some may write with her, then everybody like

(01:00:34):
you trip and da da da da da. I always
a vindicated. There's not really been a time where I
haven't been vindicating people instances like I'm like, you got
the juice, bitch, like you are discerning, you know what
you did, just follow it and run towards it, and
be unafraid to be like, don't do no silly stuff, but.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Like to stand firm in your convictions, like this is
how I feel, this is what I think, and this
is where I am now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
And so I will not participating in this. Call me
when y'all not doing this, because I don't want to
be around that type thing because I'm always vindicated. But nevertheless,
so yeah, she's over there. And what I loved about
this this scene is Carrie. You know, she's going back
and forth and really detailing out kind of like the

(01:01:22):
shame around you know, Miranda finding out about this and
Charlotte goes, fuck Miranda.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Okay, yeah, I don't know this, Charlotte. She said like
it was it was like a her like a negative way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's like girl, lean into, do you
do you? Because Miranda's gonna do her each and every time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
As we've seen, there are some friends who you have
to kind of take that tone with because they're always
going to have opinion, you know, they're always going to
think the worst, assume the worst. Yeah, because they do
it for themselves, but they'll do it for you too.
They'll put the fear in you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Yeah, I've had listen, I've had seeds playing doubting and yes, family.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Too, and yeah parents, yeah, grandparents, And it usually comes
out of love, you know, like they was afraid for
something bad happening to you, so they kind of put
that on me. But sometimes you kind of have to
say fuck whomever to people really close in your life.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. So Charlotte joins her her session
with this psychic woman and there's twelve minutes left to spare,
and that's when the waspy psychic woman like Charlotte, like,
the woman's like, oh what is it? You're breaking down
about painting your walls, and Charlotte confesses, like about the
hairy stuff and how she had to keep it locked in,

(01:02:41):
and that's when the woman turns on her camera and
her tone totally shifted. Now she's offering compassion. She apologizes
because on Zoom it's easy to dismiss people and not
that's why you have had that in person. It's different
when it's in person.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Now, I don't really know why this was stuck in
the middle of this episode. This felt like one of
those like lessons, like somebody needed to make a point
about something that we just don't quite it's that writer's room,
Like I don't somebody is that writer's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Room when you're giving me notes on Zoom.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Bitch, somebody somebody to get something out. And I don't
think as viewers we're in on that, yeah at all. Yeah,
because it just it felt so out of place to me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
I'll listen to the podcast and see what they gotta say.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Yeah, please let me know, because I was like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
So, now we're at Seema's office and Adam is there.
He popped up on her because she's been icing him
out out of embarrassment, and he gives her part of
the plant and she's like, I'm not good with clans
and he's like, I'll be here to water it. Cute
cute seeing cute couple.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Wow, what's the assistant's name?

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Oh, I can't remember. I don't think it's Robby. Robbie
was the boyfriend's name, so that it's something like art something.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
He's kind of hot. I just I don't think I
realized that and tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
And he's funny too, right because when Sea was like
I killed your mother, He's like, I just took out
a two year lease. Girl, like I need this job
so which I love that everyone is talking about the rent.
Remember the the last assistant at SEMA's old group was
like when Sine was like you want to come out,
and you know, she gave her the Jerry Maguire speech

(01:04:17):
and she's like, girl, my rent is three k a month.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Everybody has a nine control department. Hello, God, that's such
a dream.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
That's that's what that's That's what I'm saying before we
have that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
And it's a good It's not a hole in the
wall apartment. It is stunning and exquisitely decorated like a dream.
I'm going to listen to the Writer's Room podcast to
see what they have to say about this, because I
feel like this was rage bait, Like they intentionally look
like we're gonna do this glamorous apartment in the sky
and say Adam Pay's nine hundred dollars rent control. They

(01:04:52):
know everybody pissed about it. So now we're at we're
with the Wexleys and they're getting dressed and rushing out
the doors Friday night apparently because selection result night, and
I love that this scene. We didn't really have to
sit through election night because just as quickly as the
elevator door closes, it reopens, and that's when we learned
that Herbert has lost the election for comptroller. Little Henry

(01:05:18):
was like, we were five points ahead. The little daughter
is like, well, the working class swayed the vote. He
was really gagged. Everybody was and his let me just
get to this part. So LTW is offering him compassion.
His mother isn't That's what stood out to me in this,
Like his mother is a witch.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
She said, how did you enter an election or a
race that you had the chance to lose or something
like that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Isn't that every single thing we did?

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
What a thing to say number one, yeah, number when.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
He worked so hard with that campaign. He was part
of a barbershop quartet at the beginning of the season,
like he worked hard.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
I mean I didn't realize how triggered I was from
Kamala laws because so this whole like interpolation thing kind
of like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
And they were really driving that point home.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
I was like, was his election riad somewhere? And I
was like, then she did her whole book thing today
and I was like, great.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Which I I am on the fence. I know that
I will probably get that book. Will I read it
though I don't know if I'm there yet. No, don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
They're going to put all of the parts I need
to read, just you know, in what we do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
And also no, yeah, I would have to read it
because if I ever meet her, I want to say
in full confidence, I read your book one hundred and
seven days.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Oh, congratulations on the book, and you know just.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Well Now, what I do love is that LTW comforts
Herbert by reminding him. But she reminded him what he
reminded her earlier in the episode, which is you're human
and so you didn't win You're human. No, it didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
It didn't. Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
It was cute for what it was. It was so
now our next oh, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
So she looked a little disappointed that it didn't land.
So I wonder if that's going to play to next
suit's episode.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
But I just need Herbert on his best behavior, Jesus.
So now Carrie is dressed. We see Carrie dressed in
this skirt blazer like skirt soup combo and she is
heading heading down the steps, heading the Duncan's party. When
she stops herself midstep and go I mean, granted, the

(01:07:31):
outfit was cute, it just won for the party. It
was not for the party.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
It was the business affair attire.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
But I think that that that's part of what I
got from this scene is that Carrie is done lying
to herself, right, She's done psyching herself out because if
she were with aid and she definitely would have worn
that outfit to establish that this is a business thing
for me. Right, That's what that skirt suit said. And
I'm like, I've done this before, where you got something.

(01:07:57):
It's a lesson in following your first mind. Were you
yea something laid out? Like I remember one time I
went to what party? Did I go to. It might
have been someone's birthday party, and I was gonna wear
I had like two rompers laid out because this is
a summer birthday party, and they both were patterned and elaborate.
I think I got them from New York and Company
at the time, and one of them was cuterer than

(01:08:20):
the other, and that's the one that I planned on wearing,
Like I flocked to that one naturally, but for some reason,
I ended up putting on the other one. And as
I was heading for the door, I was like, I
don't feel my best in this, so I'm gonna change.
And when I tell you, when I got to that
birthday party, I was so glad that I changed because
there was another girl there in that wropper that I
would have walked out the door, another girl like, oh

(01:08:41):
my god, I would have had to do that weird twinsies.
Let's get a picture girl.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Now, this thing just reminded me of like back and
back in the day when you're going to like to
meet up with some guy or whatever, and it's like,
am I gonna put on like a full outfit or
am I just gonna go on like basketball shorts and
a T shirt because what's what's happening? So you get
dressing and I want to be all cute.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Like I want to make a good impression, and then
time you know it, I'm no.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
The second visit is when you show up in the
leggings and the T shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Child, Oh no, I'm gay. So that's visit number one. Okay, Anthony,
I rebuked that in the name of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
So yeah, she stops and changes into that Vivian west
Wood dress and that's when we get the scene Denver.
You recall when they were in the midst of filming
this season, this scene of Carrie in this outfit bronzed
upside part glistening, walking to this party went viral. For
those of you who missed it, it's available on socials.

(01:09:46):
Paparazzi were actually outside on location and got video of
Sarah Jessica walking and she's eating it in the video,
so I knew she was going to eat it in
the scene whenever we saw it. It's not disappointed she
there was no disappointment, And I feel like it's one
of those things that only carry brash I could pull
off because it didn't have hangar appeal, and when I
got to look at it, it's cute on her. I

(01:10:08):
couldn't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Well, when we saw it in the cluset, she was
like something I'm putting together, and I'm like, okay, it's
clearly in progress. Yeah, lo and behold, No that was
it and it just looked great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Yeah and and and as you mentioned, she's strutting and
as a nod to Jennifer Lewis, who guest starred earlier, Uh,
this scene reminded me I have in all Cats, which
is Jennifer Lewis is one of her morning mottos mantras
which his shoulders back titty's front. Yes, that's how you
walk into the room with confidence. And so a lot

(01:10:39):
of times I do shoulders back titty titty's front, and
I love that. Well, Titty's never go I'm never gonna
have the caved shoulders and titties in. Like when I'm competent,
I'm five to nine, I wear tall heels. I'm not
walking in with my head held held low. It's gonna
be held And I love how go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
No, it's gonna say. Just think about the entire episode.
Now that I think about it, she was kind of
on point this whole episode. I feel like since Aiden,
she's been putting a lot more into her appearance. Isn't
that every every every time we've seen her step out
or step in with Duncan, like she's just been like
on ten.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
But isn't that how it goes? I know that's how
it goes for me?

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Well, I don't know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Know, I'm I haven't been post break up in a
very long time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
So yeah, yeah, fair, I'm asking the wrong person. Well,
those of you who are out there, isn't that how
it goes? But I love that when Carrie enters this
this party, she commands the attention, which is also I'm
I'm an apologetic when I say it. That's a goal
of mine, especially when I step into like industry events
or things with peers. I'm like, yes, I'm showing up

(01:11:49):
in as my authentic self. But I'm gonna be looking good,
I'm gonna be smelling good, and the outfit's gonna be cute.
There's gonna be some type of statement, shoe statement, perse
yus when I walk in, all eyes on me. I
didn't do all of this for nothing, hello, So yeah,
I love commanding the attention of her own and I
love the name Imagen image Imagen. Yes, Duncan's ex wife

(01:12:12):
and publisher. She is gagged, which also helped carry Right.
She walked into this party, She's like, oh my god,
Very is eating. She never comes to our parties. I
always invite her.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
And I know how cool Duncan was during this whole interaction.
He was just like, really, do tell me so fine
at this party, baby.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I don't know what it was about the stage lighting
or whatever, but I was like, damn.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Duncan, Yeah, I'm telling you he was so fine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
The hair was good, the outfit was good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
I was like, whoa, he did it for carry He
got all dressed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Yes, I missed the innocence of of of when the
energy is new, the courtship, Yes, when it's new. And
this little unspoken like I can tell that you put
some effort into getting ready because I did too. And
when you looking and smelling good too, mm hmmm. So

(01:13:03):
Duncan greet's Carrie, of course, showering her with compliments, and
she's flirty and sharp. You know, she's doing that classic,
that witty flirtiness. And then we're back at Giuseppe's place.
And this is when Anthony suggests that they move in
together and Giuseppe turns him down. He's like, no, not
right now, moving a little too fast. Then Giuseppe has

(01:13:25):
to go pee, and on his way back from the restroom,
Andrew's door is cracked and Andrew is sitting there viciously
masturbaby to the marionette puppet that he made in Giuseppe's likeness.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Creep creepy, disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
All right now, I've had my share of weird roommates
in LA especially when I moved here, when I first
first moved here, but never nothing like this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
I mean, the the puppet thing wouldn't have even checked
out for me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I'm not staying in no place with no puppet making.
This isn't I read too much Goosebumps in my formative year,
not at all, just tales from the crypt bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
You know, there's a lot of art you can make,
you could draw.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Yeah, I'm not doing no doll collectors either.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
That freaks me out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
And there's no shade to those of you or who
are out there who are do the collector's items. The
only thing I would accept is maybe Funko pops if
you collected those and kept.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
No no la boo booso store the other day yesterday.
Actually it's Centry City. They have a store or the
Popmark store where they sell them all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
And what are they? Five thousand dollars at boo boo.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
There's a big one that it was two hundred. That's everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
How would you want a big one?

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Cute?

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
That is terrifying.

Speaker 5 (01:14:51):
Those things are scary for you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
No la booo for you. You. So that's when Zeppe
he burst back into his room and he's like, yeah,
I'm ready, I think it's time for me to move, which, yes,
good call, Yeah, good call, because this is.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
I find it hard to believe with the roommate that creepy.
That's the first weird encounter that they've had.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Oh yeah, if.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
You're going to leave it or open to do that
and bargin like that, then I'm sure there's been a
bunch of weird ass signs that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
But something tells me that Geeppe is a big green.
He's a big green.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
The fact that man even walked into Guseeppe's room without
knocking like that would have been a boundary that I
established the first time you tried to pull some stuff
like that, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's a
big green. So yeah, now we're back at the party
and Duncan and Carrie they're talking about books and they're

(01:15:45):
talking about this with Immagen, And we also learned in
this conversation that Duncan leaves for London in a week,
so his time is up. Oh oh eh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
And I think this is this is the part where
we learned that this was his.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
X Y ex wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I had
literally written in my notes, is this his ex wife?
And then literally by the end of the scene it
was mentioned. And I like their relationship. I think that
the fact that they don't have children is what keeps
them cordial in a working like they seem like legit friends.
I don't think that would mean the same if they
had children in the picture.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
I mean, it could have been maybe they just didn't
work out for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Very mature or as they say in the Baptist Church matula.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
But Duncan, Duncan gives me that he's very mature.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Yeah, he gonna stare the ship. Then we get this
little flash scene of Miranda at her place. Brady is
in the second bedroom, and he's sleep he's falling asleep
and it's a little throwaway yeah, as he prepares for
his baby. Then we get Duncan and carry they arrive home,
and that's when things get a little mixy. I think

(01:16:53):
the book is wonderful. I think you're wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Hmm hm. We tap dance and kinda. I mean, I
feel like that was as direct as they've been, Like
that was.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
For sure, for sure, And that's when Duncan cuts to
the chase and says, do you want to come downstairs?
And to be clear, I'm done writing for today.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Whoa No, I think, yes, God, I got stuck on
the your thing and I'm a mess.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
I'm a train wreck in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
That I'm like til my head phones.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
I'm like that was so sweet yea, And Carrie says, wait, rewrite,
You're not a mess. I think you're wonder bars and
uh yeah, So Carrie turns him down. He invites her
downstairs and she says I'm okay, and I mean literally

(01:17:50):
a call back to the episode with her getting ready
for the party and she changed her mind. Now she's
getting ready to go home and she changes her mind.
And in this scene, I noticed I did not notice
this when she was doing her power walk to the party,
but she has on the shoes that he was playing
with in her closet. She wore those shoes with that
Vivian Westwood dress, so when.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
I didn't realize it either, but they cut to them.
They cut to the shoes. Yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
She's feeling a girl you're picking out personally, which made
me smile ear to ear because there are things like,
let's say I got complimented on something like I will
like if I know I'm gonna see you, and you
know is that yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh. I love when
men talk about my perfumes. I haven't had an Adam

(01:18:35):
moment yet where a man has been like I left
that that girl because of you. Please, because I says,
if you do it to her, you do it to me,
and you don't have permission to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Subscribe to that, but teachers them?

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Do you subscribe to how you get them as how
you lose them? Shout out to Wendy. I don't know.
I've seen the great circle of life, Simba. I don't know.
But nevertheless, we're at the end of the episode. Carrie
changes her mind as I mentioned, and she darts down
the stairs and runs into Duncan's arms, and cut to

(01:19:13):
the next morning.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
She got Duncan's pipe, and I remember saying, I hope,
I hope we get Duncan's pipe or Carrie gets Dunkin's
pipe for.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
What it's worth, for what it's worth. In this scene,
I was like, I'm glad that she got her a
piece of that, but I don't need a relationship from them.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
So when she said no, when she turned them down,
I was like, you know what, smart girl, because you know,
just sometimes you kind of need to leave things as
they are, yeah, things any further, especially if you are
still working on your book. I'm like, your book's not finished.
Don't fuck this up while you're still working together, because
you don't know how that's gonna, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Getting peer review and stuff. Because see, typically things that
happen like this. You sleep with a neighbor and the
shit is sweet and it's been this build up. Then
next thing you know, you see Duncan bringing a woman home,
and now you're looking out the window looking crazy right at.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
The last, and then when she turned around, and then
when she turned around and went downstairs, I was like,
you know what, if that's what she wants to do.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
The wharee it is yellow? You leaving a week yollow?

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Well here's the thing. He was leaving a week before
he got it. Now he might want to stay.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Oh my sublet my sublet's up. Can I come and
stay with you?

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Upstairs? You have all that room?

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Oh please?

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
What is he gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Call her big money next? Because she got seven best
sellers and he got five. I but yeah, in this,
in this scene, I was like, I'm glad that that
they got themselves some pieces, But I do not need
a relationship from this. Yeah, I don't need that to
start dating. I don't agree. It's cute for what it is, cute,
little rebound. Best way to get over man is get

(01:20:57):
get under a new one. Go ahead here and so.
But also in this scene, I love that Duncan says,
what's gonna happen to the woman? Do you have the
ending yet? Carrie's joking talking about smallpox, big pox, you know,
talking about killing her off, and Duncan rejects that and says,
I hope that she lives. She's such a unique character

(01:21:19):
and it would be a shame to end her.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
I mean, I thought again. Back to the writing. Like,
I thought it was so sweet and so poetic, and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
It got real corny when he said, I've missed a deadline,
but you have given me a lifeline. No, that would
have been round two for me.

Speaker 5 (01:21:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
I don't disagree. I don't disagree.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
That's such a sucker for the corniness of it all.
That would have been round two for me. And so
the show ends. The episode ends with Carrie in her
rat free garden remodeled garden, and she is reflecting on
her summer.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Damn, girl, Damn.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
I mean finally, yeah, finally, finally. And I hope that
to your point, I hope they end here.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
I feel like it's a nice closing of the Duncan chapter,
no pun intended, and I think that Carrie can just
focus on her friends and her book and you know,
finishing that house.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
So how do you rate this episode?

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
I'm going to give it a nine. And like, I
really really enjoyed this episode. I think the writing was great.
I think the pacing was great. I think it was
weirdly satisfying. I think for everyone, it gave.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Us a nice break that everybody wanted. We were so
fed up with Aiden and Carrie.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Oh my god, my friend Chris on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Shout out to Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
He said that this was probably the most sex and
the City episode of the season you've.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Gotten, probably, and I would agree, Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
I agree as well. I give it an eight. I
give it an eight only because the last two episodes
that felt like Carrier episodes for me didn't really. I
enjoyed last week's episode more than I enjoyed this week's episode,
but it was still a beautiful episode.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
But yeah, we got out of heart in this one
between you know, Adam and he's an alchel of your
plans and the I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Glad that the that the vertigo is over for Charlotte,
we're not talking about that anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Sure, I mean I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
I did see on Reddit because I get emails from
like reddits that I visited, and certain some people are mad.
They say that they think that the writers are trying
to make Sema too much like Samantha, which I disagree.
I think was her own. I don't think Semas anything
like Samantha, and they've been calling her Seamantha like they've

(01:23:58):
merged the names.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
I thought that at first, like me too.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
I think we talked about that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Yeah, Wesma kind of stepped into her own her own.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
She's nothing like Samantha nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
No, but she's still my favorite edition. And I can
watch an entire episode of Jema.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Yeah, I think it's just what people relate to is
the bad bitchery of it all. And there's plenty of
bad bitches in New York City running around with drivers
and owning businesses and power suits and like, there's plenty
of that, you know. I'm just saying, like, that's not
a Samantha exclusive thing. So with that on that, this

(01:24:35):
concludes season three, Episode ten, Better than Sex. We will
see you all next week. I will be out of town,
so I'll be doing this from a hotel room next week.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
And then the week after that Wi Fi. Well, week
after that we'll be switched.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
I'll be in an hotel room and I'll be back.
So we'll keep it rolling.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
We will keep it rolling. We will keep it rolling
until then. You all know where to f find us Speakpipe,
dot com, slash We're just like that. Leave your comments
on YouTube. I'll check the Spotify and leave us a message.
That's the best way you're going to be heard on
the show we love hearing from you all, and we
will see you next week for Upsode eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Sure all right, bye guys,

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