Carrie in the Cvntryside

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Pop passed away the actor that played him Harry's father,
and we'll get into it. I don't know if it
was recent or if.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
So, I just was it was ten days ago. Oh damn,
it was June.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Tenth, so he didn't even get a chance to see
his episode.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I mean hopefully they got to send it to him beforehand,
because right, I would hope.

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Speaker 2 (02:44):
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Speaker 3 (02:47):
Hey, you, I'm so glad you're back. I could not
wait to see if you were reviewing this season. I
was always refreshing a podcast, So thanks for being here
for us Sex and the City fans. And I just
wanted to point out that I noticed, like, how phallic.
That's the best word I could use to describe it.

(03:09):
That Miranda and that cat furniture thing. How she was
just twisting and turning that around. I thought that was
so funny, and it just looked like phallic and a
not too her, not liking man anymore. So wondering what
you all thought about that seed which he was fooling

(03:32):
around with that cat tree all right until next week?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Bye, I didn't even notice that, you know, neither and
I always noticed the phallic something Okay, now, but I didn't.
I didn't. I didn't catch up on that.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I didn't catch that either again, But I wonder if
that was just the genius of Cynthia Nixon or if
it's by happenstance, because I mean, you know, they do
slide in, they slide and like I remember last season
when they did the toast to Stanford Blatch when it
was Anthony and Carrie drinking the cosmos like Sarah Jessica.

(04:09):
Her downing the cosmo was not in the script like
sometimes they do little stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
So maybe that's a distres just like habitual, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Okay, but Cynthia Nixon is a lesbian in real.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Life, I mean true, true, So I was thinking about myself.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Well, it would be habitual in that case. Well, our
second one is from Cindy and this is what Cindy
had to say.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Hi, Denverynshar, my name is Cindy, and I'm so glad
you guys are back for us for a third seath in.
I just have two quick things to drop off. First,
someone who was Team Aiden Aiden CEO high for the
OG series. I am so over him now in the reboot,
I was honestly a when I saw that he was
billed for season three. I'm just ready for Carry to

(05:04):
be single again, especially now that there's been enough time
since Big has passed so she can fully date without
that baggage and seemas single, mirandas single. So it could
even be kind of reminiscent to the OG series. So
I really hope they don't drag him all throughout the season. Second,
I currently live in DC, and as I was listening

(05:24):
to the last episode, I was on my leisurely afternoon
walk and happened to walk by a dead rat. So
I'm just here to confirm what shar said a few
weeks ago about the rats in DC. Thanks, guys, can't
wait for the rest of the episodes.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, well, well, I may tell a joke, but I'll
never tell a lie. The rats in DC are out
of control.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's crazy. I did not see a single one.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
They run that town. But also, I'm glad that everybody's
jumping on board. Granted, I know that this is just Cindy,
but everybody's jumping on board about you know, Aiden waking
up to Aiden not being like being a mismatch for
Carrie in this current station in her life.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, and I mean to her point, I was really
hoping we would get rid of him. And I know
last week I made a lot of predictions and I
was I think they all came from a place of
like wanting him to fuck up so badly that we
did get rid of him. Yeah, and as we see
in this episode, we'll get into it. But that just
didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Let me ask you this, would you have preferred Aiden
to leave or Chay to leave? Oh, you have to
choose one.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'll leave, I'll just stop watching.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
No. Yeah, yeah, I say the same. I say the same.
I've read a headline. I didn't get a chance of
reading the story, but there was a headline where Sarah
Jessica was honestly shocked at the amount of people that
hated Chay Diaz. Like I said, I didn't get around
reading the interview, but like she was genuinely surprised that,
like damn, people really hated this character. So that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
That's crazy because they were around for two seasons.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, they were, and they gave us hell.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, they gave hell.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
So are you ready to jump into yeah before.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, let's do it. What was the name of this
episode apples to apples Apples to Apples. You know, I've
never played that game.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I have it either, but it sounds like it's just
a game of like matching the cards. It's like a
hybrid of so many different games like Cards against Humanity. Yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. So I builded this episode, you know, nightmares
come to life, because there were a series of nightmares
coming to life. I have to say Carrie had me

(07:45):
laughing out loud during this this episode for nothing in
particular other than like nonverbal communication.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Absolutely, I feel like her reactions were so real.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
They were so real like I felt. I definitely felt like,
you know, my skin crawling, like this is how I
would be reacting in this situation to just kind of
wanting to disappear into the wall.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
So because when I look at my notes, I think
I have like oh no in caps like ten times, like.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
No, this this episode was a pure nightmare. Oh no,
Maybe you should name this episode.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Oh no, Well, I was gonna go with obviously wild
cunt because.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well, I don't think we can put cunt in the title. Denver,
I'll figure it out. But maybe be CV you I
mean c V and T like how they do on Twitter. Yeah,
or a Little House on the Carry either or like
it varies, but it opens with Carrie. We get Carrie.
She's in Virginia. She's just now waking up. She was asleep,

(08:54):
and the boys are already awake, and they're with Aiden
and they're outside doing some painting. Carrie is sitting there,
she's listening, smiling. I was wondering if Carrie was entertaining,
like if she was genuinely feeling good or like picturing herself,
how she would fit into this equation because she can
hear the family dynamic outside and uh, of course Wyatt

(09:17):
is looking into the window the bedroom. I just saw her.
She's awake, mind your business.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I mean, I was trying to figure out if Carrie
was going to decide whether she was actually going to
go out there just.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Like, Yeah, I think that had he not clocked her,
she might have stayed in bed a little longer.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I think I would have preferred her to have
stayed in bed and just like quietly.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Just left, like left Virginia.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, absolutely, well in the guest house. So in my mind,
like we're done, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, sister should have pulled the plug this episode. But nevertheless,
Carrie is in this gorgeous dress. I learned just a
few minutes ago on the just like that instagram that
the same strappy heels that we see her emerging from
the room and are the same shoes that she wore
in the promo for Sex and the City to the

(10:14):
movie when they went to Abu Dhabi. So they've been
doing a lot of like repeat outfits, Like I get
like those instagram suggestions from fan pages and it's like, oh,
Carrie wore this sweater season three, episode twelve, and she's
wearing it of Sex and the City and she's wearing
it now again type things.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, were we talking about her? Did I watch a
video where she said that in her contract she has
everything that Carrie's ever worn in her eye?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah? I think I don't think we talked about it,
but I was. I've seen I've heard her say that
in interviews.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, so she was saying that when they build out
their Carrie's closet for the season, they like to go
back and just kind of pool pieces since she has
them all. I was like, how fire is that? Like
I would love to put that in a contract for any.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Show, but also, how do you not fuse that wardrobe
with your own things can get so lost in the sauce.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Like I mean, I feel like over the years it
probably has become.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Her own true, true, you know, true, because she had
the relationships with Manolo Blanik. I can't remember what podcast
I was listening to at the inception of Sex and
the City. That's how they like, she took a chance
on him when he was an up and coming fashion
designer and they became friends, and so that's how a

(11:24):
lot of stuff was leased to them in those first seasons.
It might have been one of them Kristen Davis episodes,
you know. Yeah, so we see that Homer loves Carrie.
Wyatt does not see it for the doll at all.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
No, Homer was so nice, Like, Homer was so nice.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
And friendly and welcoming, and later when we get Tate
in the episode, he seems a bit indifferent. So yeah, yeah,
everybody's got something going on over in that Aid and family.
But Carrie is musty, and so she trying to figure
out what next move is going to be. The luggage

(12:02):
is gone. She needs aiden speed stick and Homer has
offered her some of his clothing.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
And I have speed stick. Who the fuck uses the
speed stick in twenty twenty is.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
For a white man in rural Virginia.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
That's disgusting.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
He probably still has some old spice too. I'm a
met old Spice. I am traumatized from boys after Jim
Glass Old Spice and Acts, just clouds of it.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Acts is terrible. I saw something on my timeline on
Instagram doing a a brand deal with Acts, and I
was like, I hope the check was good.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Like, I hope they're still around.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
They're still around, and I think they're doing like the
whole full body thing that everybody else is.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Doing, the full body deodorant.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Shut up.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
By the way, have you been watching Next Gen NYC?
You know I have?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
You know I have, no I have.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Oh I know that's another show, but uh wow, some
of those hygiene practices. So when I was on the
red covering the awards, I forgot to mention, you know,
Candy Burris loves me. She may not know my name,
but she loves me. I'm not sure that she knows
my name, but she loves me. So Candy and Riley
weren't doing press, so they were walking past and I said, Candy,

(13:17):
you know, I'll catch you next time. And she ends
up teetering like we were teetering, like Wendy and her
heels up to each other and gave each other a hug,
and she was like, I just love you. And I
was like, congratulations, Candy, like you look great. And so
as Riley was walking past, I said, Riley, you have
a new fan in me. I want to shake in
that girl's hand either, and she like fell over last,

(13:40):
I want to touch that girl.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
No, that was so different show.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
We'll talk about her different show, but yes, so so yeah,
and then we get Miranda. This next scene Miranda, it's
a little throwaway scene, but Miranda sleeping Carrie's bed and
she was in the kiddy condo. And I found this
funny because you know, I like cats, and this is
part of some of my for you page algorithm on TikTok,
because when it's breakfast time, it's breakfast time, and she

(14:07):
was letting her know that you've overslept and it's time
to get up and perhaps feed me in scoop a
litter box. You're in mind.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Absolutely, He's like, my mama, don't do this. So yeah,
you're not about to do it either.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
You you not about to do it?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
You're not doing that. No, sorry, that.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Was a fun scene. I liked that. But then we
get to LTW and Herbert. They're chatting as they get
dressed for the day, and Herbert informs her that she's
been talking in her sleep lately. LTW is three weeks
behind on picking an editor to replace Grace, and the
stress is coming through. Do you talk in your sleep?

(14:42):
I've just heard you say it happens.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
It happens not often, but I've been woken up because
I was like screaming and talking and doing all types
of stuff. But it normally only does happen when I'm stressed.
It would I have like something underlying?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, I know people that have night tremors. I would
never know if I talked in my No one's ever
told me. But I also sleep alone, so I wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Do you do you remember your dreams when you wake up?
Because some people don't ye so vivid they have like
plot lines like they are sometimes they're crazy. But I
can remember every single detail, sites, smells, colors. I've written
songs in my seat that I've woken up and like
had to just kind of like get out because like
they're that vivid like it's caam I.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
What I typically do? You know, everybody knows listening. Everybody
should know by now that how much I journal. And
so typically that is what I will do. If I
have a dream, no matter if it's a nightmare or
just a regular dream, I will typically wake up and
as soon as I open my eyes write it out
so I don't forget any details, and then I'll consult,
like I'll look, you know, see what the internet says,

(15:46):
like I dreamt about this, this, this, and so yeah,
I try to. I try to and I try to
get meaning from it because I'm one of those woo
woo girls. I'm woo woo adjacent where I want to know,
like is this what's through for me? What's coming up
for me? So I like to I don't believe anything
is by happenstance. Really yeah, I don't either, especially when

(16:08):
you dream about people that you hadn't seen or spoken to,
or people from the past or who might have gone
on like are deceased, Like I write all of that down.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, same, So back to this, I want
to my notes I have that she's three weeks behind,
and I've come to realize that LTW is just not
good with time management, and she's just not good with
respecting other people's time. Because again, we're already eight years
out and now it's three more weeks, so you're just
not You're just not not good.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
She's really trying, she's pining and wringing her hands over
picking the right kind of editor. She wants a black woman.
Three weeks is kind of crazy, especially when Grace a
trusted friend and colleague, and Sourus gave you a list
of people, Like that's I can see if she was
looking from from scratch, right, Yeah, you said it's also.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Money, money, time is money. Three weeks, three weeks? So
what you go on payroll? Are they on pawns? Are
they like furloughed? Like, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Oh furlough that's a trigger word for me, shout out
to lockdown. So yeah, then we get the next thing.
Charlotte is with her family and they're starting the day
we learned that Harry's father is in town. Pop is
in town. Lily reveals that her boyfriend Diego is coming

(17:31):
to dinner, will be will be joining them for dinner,
And the funniest thing, you know, the lady in ten
f apartment ten f She is all about community, okay,
she's all about using a resource guide and she's looking
for a banana on the message board. Rock is all
up and through this.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
That would be too You know what. My old building
has a Facebook group that I'm still in just because
I like to see all of the happenings that go on,
because the building was chaotic and it's still chaotic. But
I'm so nosy. I just like to kind of keep
time to listen.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Do you have you ever been on next door?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah? I hate next door?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah I didn't. I didn't follow through with it because
I didn't like the whole confirmation and sending me the
postcard and use the QR code. It felt like, why
can't I just join? Like too much surveillance.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Even the ring doorbell has a community thing and I
don't read those just because it's too it's too broad. Yeah,
now what I am Some squirrel was on the sidewalk
and had a sign. I'm like, nobody gives a shit.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well, some people will listen. You got elderly people part
of that stuff too. One thing that I am part
of is I'm a part of a few neighborhood watch groups.
And I'm able to be discreet in them, like on Facebook,
either in my neighborhood or like surrounding neighborhoods. And in
all honesty, what's been incredibly tough is that they have

(18:56):
been used more recently to alert people of ice raids.
And so I've seen how close. Yeah, I'm in these
Facebook groups and I'm seeing where they're popping up, which,
by the way, have you ever heard of something called
a First Amendment auditor?

Speaker 3 (19:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
So I looked it up and it's like this group
that harasses people like they were just at the Trader
Joe's near my house on the sidewalk and they it's
like they challenged the first you got to look it up.
I can't.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I think I've seen like videos like a guy who
just go out and start filming.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, and they antagonize me like harassment, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, stupid.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
How bored do you have to be? How privileged you
have to be to just go outside and just piss
people off?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Some harass people like It's it's been crazy at some
of the updates that I've been seeing. But uh, nevertheless,
we get uh, as I mentioned, yeah, you know this
lady is all about community. She wants. You know, Harry
is imitating her like anybody got a spare assault see,
and we later meet her in the episode. I should

(20:03):
note that Rock is tasked with clearing up Pop Pop's iPad,
and I have in my notes that I knew that
this spell trouble. I knew that this spell trouble. I
just shelter it, shelled it. I felt I was like
this an old man with a corrupted iPad. It's either
going to be online gambling or pornography. Those are the

(20:27):
only thing giving you.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Like Charlotte's dog situation, I thought we were just going
down some I.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Think we're past that. Can we not, uh ever reference
the season three premiere ever? Get that's such a rogue episode.
It just didn't fit. It's not they're knocking it out
the park. Yeah, they're knocking it out the park now
that premiered. No, ma'am, I don't know what they were thinking.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Weren't.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
So then we get Charlotte is so enthused that Lily
wants the family to meet Diego, so we know how
she reacts to things like this. Our next scene is
Carrie having breakfast with the boys and Whyatt is mean
mugging her with his stress ball. Homer asks how long
Carrie plans on staying, and Aiden jumps in and says

(21:12):
that Tate's birthday. Tit is coming up from UVA on
Wednesday to celebrate his twenty first birthday, and he was
hoping that Carrye would stay for that. I have in
my notes not only did he blindside her, but he
definitely put her on the spot because she was not
prepared for this.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I have qualms with this entire thing too. First, you
can't come in the house because it's going to disrupt
what my kids.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Got to talk about it. Talk about it.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Then they can find out what's going on before I
wake up and be so comfortable that they can actually
look into my guesthouse window and not be bothered.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
And then not only are they not bothered that I'm there,
but then you have me at breakfast. Yeah, and not
only am I at breakfast, you're asking me to stay
until Wednesday. So in the span of like eight hours,
it went from to ask you to stay, you can stay.
You got to stay in the guest house too, Can
you stay here until Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I should? I also want to latch onto that because
what what can't be erased from the conversation is when
Aiden told Carrie that they kind of planned their days
out the night before, like the boys don't like surprises.
You can't come in the house because they didn't know
you were coming. I'm going to tell them. But now
over breakfast you can just sporadically, you know, mention, you

(22:26):
know you want me to stay? And why wasn't this
discussed the night before?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Right? Right?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
So yeah, I just think Aiden's so full of shit.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
This whole episode. This this it fueled my aid and
hate to the things I like him.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I never thought I'd reached a point where I did
not like Aiden, but I cannot stand him from.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Go ahead, No, I'm saying it went from me not
liking him for Carrie to me not liking him just
as a person.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Right because for me, it represents a very very very
specific brand of manipulation and a very very specific like
if you blink, you miss it. You got to have
some lived experience and there in order to clock someone
like Aiden, because you'll miss it.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
You'll miss it because it's wrapped in in care.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah and kissing you on the forehead and.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Okay, well we got some things we do I also
have at breakfast. The younger kid I forgot his name,
is super helpful and why it's a cunt and it's
so funny. And it's so funny because I wrote that before, not.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Knowing that would wild cunt.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yes, but I think that's why it is actually kind
of a cunt.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah. Yeah, But Carrie needs clothes and suggests Target, but
you know Target is an hour away, so she says
she wants something closer, and then enters Daisy's dress shop,
which is a mile away. Homer offers to take her,
but Carrie says she can walk. I found this to
be out of character because a mile in New York
City is not the same as a in Rule of Virginia.

(24:01):
You just saw Carrie running from rats. There's wildlife, it's
hot fly swarming. I don't imagine, like I just looked
at this as out of character. I don't imagine a
city girl like Carrie. Well.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I thought it was trying to be all easy, breezy
and not disrupt what they got going on.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Fair fair you can't no, you could like be so serious.
But I didn't notice, and I know this this gets
addressed in the next scene. I was like Why didn't
Aiden offer to take her? Why is his son's feeling
confident enough to just jump in and he's just sitting
there flipping flapjacks.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, I mean I think that speaks to aid this
entire episode.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, actually yes, yeah, and so, but Carrie ends up
taking an ATV, which I thought she looked so cute
and cunt on. She got on, you know, in her
heels and in Homer's close with his little creeping jerseys
and stuff creeping on the ATV quick an hour point two.

(25:01):
In fairness, she doesn't have a helmet, and she also
doesn't know how to drive.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Helmet on she did, and did she? It was like
a little red helmet.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Oh I just miss that. Well. Aiden says he would
take care of himself, but he has to supervise Wyatt
and keep him occupied. I have that in my notes.
Then our next scene, we get LTW at work and
she's waiting. She's waiting to meet miss Marian. Now, what
I will say is this was a June teenth treat, thank.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
You, and just like hey, okay.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
On top of that, my mind, you know, my mind
just goes all over the place during this scene. It
went to ll cool Jay's character on in the House
because his name was also Marian. And this was what
this was literally out of, like the premiere, like the
pilot of that show, with Debbie Allen's character thinking that

(25:54):
she's meeting a housekeeper with a woman named Marian and
then comes in ll cool. So I just looked at
those parallels there. But my god, we I'll let you
take it.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'm stuttering Mary well, no, no, no, no, no, So I
have Marion Walks in all caps his fine ass. I mean,
shout out to my Coon Brooks, because that man's been
fine since True Blood, you know, and he doesn't do
He doesn't do a lot, at least a lot that
I watch. You know. He'll pop up in something like

(26:27):
every couple of years. But it's just it's nice to
see him.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
He has maintained his sexy yeah mustache, I said, Now
you know, I don't like those mustaches.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
See it works for me.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah. Because you're gay, you're gay. Clap if you're gay.
I feel like that is a very like there's a
lot of game that are getting into the porn stash,
that's what I call it.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, And I have a strong theory as to why
it's not for this show. It's a it's a very
interesting conversation this show. I mean it can be no, no, no, no,
I can't be. But there seems to be and I
was reading this on threads or Twitter, one of them,
but there seems to be a push amongst CIS gay
men to not necessarily reclaim spaces, but there's a push

(27:19):
towards masculinity, like performed masculinity, because a lot of the
LGBT spaces they once held have become queer, okay, and
so they become more encompassing of the non binary and
the gender knocking forming and this and that, and so
what's happening is this is men they're basically butching up

(27:40):
to separate themselves from these spaces and people of the community. Interesting, Yeah,
it's it's interesting. So we're getting a lot of so
we host getting a lot of sports bars. Mustaches are
coming back. You know, you see people getting a bit
more muscular who weren't previously, Like people are trying to
perform their idea identity harder.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
So this is what I find interesting about this because
and this is not to derail too far from the show,
but as someone who is always you know, I have,
it's no secret. Maybe it is to the listeners. I've
rejected the term queer for myself because that is a
term that felt like I woke up one morning and
it was just a sign to me. No one talked
to me about it. People just were calling me that.

(28:22):
And also I grew up with queer being a pejorative
and being a slur. I also looked at the culture
was not reflective of the intersectionality of blackness as it
shows up in that space. The culture has never been
reflective of that. And so what I find interesting is
there was this, it almost seems like this push that

(28:43):
everybody got on board for to make everything queer. And
now do you think that this is a direct result
of where we are politically? Why is everybody trying to
like separate themselves and reclaim their letter Now?

Speaker 2 (28:54):
I mean, I think it started a couple of years ago, honestly,
But I just I think that with queer spaces becoming
fewer and fewer, I think their importance is becoming I
guess the value of the importance is I guess becoming
greater to some people. And so they're just trying to
hold on to like the spaces that they have.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I wonder when the discrimination is going to kick in, Yeah,
when they say, you know, this bar is for masculine
gay men only, because.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I mean, that's why we was getting a bunch of
like sports bars and a lot of the you know,
the white gays. They're going to silver Lake now, you know, yeah,
doing the whole whatever you want to call it, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Well, God bless, we'll do that on the after show.
We'll talk about that on the after show.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
But tequila for that one, because I feel like I
feel like I'm tripping over my words because I'm trying
not to get to it.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
No, you're it's cohesive. But we got to stick to
the show. That's why I say we got to because
even I just beard off course. But I find that
interesting because I am not a fan of those mustags
as I feel like it's not for me though, it's
not for me, right break here, Yeah, let's take a break. Yak,
We're back. So the what I want to leave off

(30:12):
with with Marion is he would have made me compromise
what I was supposed to be doing because he is flattery, okay,
like he is giving, He is flattering her. He seems compassionate,
he can manage small talk, like he's checking off all
of my boxes as shar and my achilles heel is.
He's a fan of her work, like don't play with

(30:33):
me any man. That's like I thought you did so well.
I watched that. I watched that segment, or like you
got me wrapped around your finger.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Not only is he a fan, but he also knows
grace if that if they couldn't get any more perfect
mine they played softball together.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yes, and he said the directors it was the directors
and the editors versus the editors with the directors are
always in charge. This is your baby, he told lt W.
I think lt you're gonna slip up. She should, I
think she's gonna slip up. I think that I should
also mention that when this storyline was introduced about her

(31:09):
talking in her sleep, I was like, this is a
recipe for disaster because I can see where it's going
right or where it could go.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
And we could just go and pray for my lin.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Pray, and we're gonna pray.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
So then I can get right right, so then we
get yes, I have that. LTW is apprehensive but smitten,
and she tells Mary and that she needs another night
to think about it. Then we get our next scene,
which is Carrie at Daisies. She's in the dress shops,
the sister Wives dressed with all the ruffles, surrounded by

(31:46):
ruffles and floral prints, and she's filling Miranda in on everything.
You know. They're having this conversation and Miranda tells Carrie
that she has been invited back on the BBC and
she was personally requested by Joy. Okay, I'm like, okay,
I'm very Miranda in this. Like if a guy I

(32:09):
was crushing on was like personally requesting me, I'd definitely
be on the phone with the girl.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
He's like, see, I'm so checked out in Miranda dating
from last you know we talked about the last episode.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, because you're not letting. You're not letting my sister breathe.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Oh she's breathing. She's breathing too much.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
She's figuring it out, he said.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
She's never I heard that completely wrong, but keep going.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Figuring it out, big big, I got you, I got you,
I got you.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I wasn'tven thinking about that. But also both both do apply.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
I was about to say a double make it a
double on Tandra shout out to Jennifer Lewis. So then
we get the next scene and Seema is informed that Ryan,
Sirhant is in her office. Now this exchange was spicy.
I don't like Ryan. I don't think anyone.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Does the show.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
In the show. Oh okay, I don't know this actor
outside of this role.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Oh he's not an actor. He's an actual real estate
person in New York. He's one of the top realtors
in the country, in the world probably, but he owns.
He used to be on a million dollar listing and
then he got his own show on Netflix I think
last year, and now he's not so he's playing himself. Yes,
sir hand it's a massive, massive company.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Did not know that.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
So what of course, my dog wants to go and
get water right now. So if you hear like incessant, okay,
well good, and I was gonna edit it out anyway, but.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Give him a kiss for me. Now what was his reaction?
He looked up, Oh, Ryan is really trying to recruit
uh Sema, She's uninterested, so he essentially fires her and
gives her to the end of next week to collect
your things and vacate because that's the dick move that

(34:04):
that apparently she was waiting on. And Siema was initially
prepared to leave in thirty days, but that's just simply
not happening now she has essentially a week.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
And I noticed it was the first time we actually
saw the name of the company I think on the wall. Yeah,
and it pissed me off. I was like, you know what,
if I were Seema and I was going from a
place where my name was on the door to not
I would I would definitely feel a way.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
I wouldn't be able to look at that. I'd be
so offended, like I don't want to come in and
see that now. But then we get our next scene
and Carrie and aid and are in bed after sex
and she asks him, she says, now that I have
your attention, what was wrong with that damn dining room
table that I sent you? And as long as she's
not holding that in but you know what, been there,

(34:47):
been there. I'm not even mad at Carrie. Been there,
now that I have your attention, and you know you
can't go nowhere, and you know I don't have to
wait on a response now that I have your attention,
and we're in a vulnerable state, right, because we just
had some fun. Now it's time for Barbara Walters tell
me everything, which I'm so excited about.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
But only Carrie would.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Do in Charlwood as well, no shade.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Okay, well that tracks I would.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Too, I would too, Tracks, And so Aiden it takes
him a minute, like he doesn't even realize what she's
talking about, and he casually explains that nothing was wrong
with the table. She just wanted a quick answer and
so that that was the quickest. And Carrie is so
disappointed in this because she's invested. See again, this is
this is a visual aid of Carrie's investment and Aiden's

(35:38):
lack of investment in this Grammarcy house, in this future
with this lady.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Right, she's romanticizing everything and every thing like it doesn't
mean absolutely nothing to him.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's why when she does finally break up with him,
I hope that she doesn't beat herself up because she
could be better with her communication. But she aside from that,
she's in it to win it. She's in it to
win it.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
She well, I mean, here's a thing, and when we
see it throughout the episode. But Aiden has a capacity
to care and to pay close attention and to nurture
it's in him. He does it with that, with that child.
He just doesn't give it to her.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
That's what makes it manipulative.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
You know it had been had it been whyat asking
about the table, he would have gone picked it up,
you know, dressed same day.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Because that's what's keeping Carrie romanticizing this because she sees
those qualities. But if it's not geared towards you, sister,
you got to get up out of there. And he's
not showing them towards you at all, on top of
the insult of asking you to wait for five years.
But he then asks her can she do him a favor?

(36:47):
And she responds. I noticed that she's responding and said,
oh my god. Another one. Another leaning onto Carrie making
some sacrifices and Aiden like trying to keep it copoesthetic
and Aiden. It just keeps asking for more. There's never
there's never a bottom to his requests. It's just more
and more and more. So then is basically a get

(37:09):
to know me day. That's just a Carrie boiled it
down because he says, if I give the boys off tomorrow,
can you spend some time with them? And Carrie's like,
isn't won't it be obvious that it's a get to
know me day? But I did also note that in
this scene, Carrie says that she doesn't play games because
she's not good at them. And I have your favorite
word ominous scene in the writing, very very ominous, and

(37:34):
it's a callback to last week's episode.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
It is the game playing it is, and I'm glad
that even in her willingness to appease Aiden, something still off.
You can sense that she's still kind of like, okay,
I mean, I guess I will.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
And the actors the performances are painfully awkward, like I
feel like I'm in this relationship, you know, like I'm
in the room with them.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
And I don't know how we got here.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
We got here because we're dealing with two people who
are afraid to throw in the tile. But the tiles
should have been thrown in a while back. And I
think that sometimes when you invest so much time, you
you ignore the obvious until you can ignore it no longer.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
That happens all the time. So then she asks him
and she'll be sleeping in the guest house again tonight,
and he says no, she'll be with him. So good. Okay, Carrie. Oh,
I should mention that in this scene he had timed
it because he was supposed to be out swimming. Remember
he told him he's going out on the swim taking.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Yeah, okay, girl, girl, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Next scene. So I have in my and I okay,
So I had to bring this up to you. I
was very excited to bring this note that I have
written down up to you as a fan of comedic
films like I am, and a fan of a j
Lo rom com. Okay, my favorite lt W sleep talking. Uh,

(39:05):
this scene reminded me so much of Jane Fonda and
Monster in Law.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yes, yes, yes, absolutely, it really didn't.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yes, She's like when Viola Fields, whose Jane Fonda's character
asks j Loo's character can she sleep with her night
in the sheet ends up slapping and she's like, ohh no, no,
you know that's one of my favorite film.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I watch it again.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
It's so good. I just you know, I just made Anthony,
my friend Anthony, watch it last year. He had never
seen it before. And I said, I'm coming over and
we're having a movie day. And we had a movie day,
and I was like, you You're going to have such
an appreciation for this film when you see. This's so good.
If you've never seen Monster in Law, watch it, it's
so good.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah. I second that.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
But yeah, so that's what this scene. I was like,
I think Denver will enjoy this, this reference that I
have because lt W talking in her sleep just reminded
me of that. And Herbert is worn out, so he
you mentioned this earlier. He ends up gathering his things
and going to the guest room to sleep, and.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I feel like that was an appropriate thing to do. Yeah,
in the moment.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, I mean, he has a career, he has his
own responsibilities, and he also wants to get sleep. And
if your partner is and these aren't subtle sentences, Ltw's
like shouting in her sleep and she's.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Sleep, but she needs her sleep too, So I mean, yeah,
once once, I get.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
But this is like the third or fourth time.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
The next morning she's refreshed and awake, and Herbert reveals
that he slept in the guest room and LTW isn't
having it, she said.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
And I understand, And I understand that too, and I yes,
I understand his desire to do it, but her reaction
I'm like, yeah, I would feel the same way.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
So I used to be a proponent and I don't
know where I stand with this, but I was such
a proponent on separate bathrooms. I think that's where I
land with it. I could do that, and that was
one of the first debates on my old podcast, like
literally ten years ago that we had because people were
also getting separate bedrooms because of design choices and things

(41:15):
like that. I think where I am today is I'd
like to sleep with my partner unless there's something gross
going on, like super super gross excessive sweating.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, I mean, it always needs to be together. Yeah,
I could see separate rooms for like stuff, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Right right right, And totally I'm still still I'm still
a champion for separate bathrooms.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I don't want to share a bathroom with the man. No,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Okay, Well, I mean we share like stuff, face stuff,
so that's a little hard. But I do have like
a separate bathroom where I kind of like shave and stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't need to share a
bathroom with the man. Eva that's another podcast. So even
even game in bathrooms are yeah, they can who Like
I said, that's that'll be in the book, right, So
then we get that little scene of Carrie in that
ugly dress and saying little house on the carry, and

(42:11):
and Aiden making corny jokes and the boys are like
rolling their eyes and like so annoyed at these corny jokes.
But that was just a little cut in scene because
then we get Miranda on the set. She's she's about
to do her stand up for the BBC, and in
this scene she invites Joy out to dinner. But Joy
already has plans. She's already booked. She's going to be

(42:34):
meeting friends from the UK at Gramercy Tavern, which is
perfect for Miranda because she is currently house sitting Carrie's
house in Gramercy Park. So she invites Joy over for
a NAT. I said a nat a night cat.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Is this the drinking tea and combo?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yes, the drink tea and combo?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I might use it. I might use that. Actually, mm
I almost told some of my business, but I'm not.
Let's move on. There're thirty seconds from going live, and
once Miranda begins her live shot, everything is going fine
until until the wild cunt tree side.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I mean, it wasn't really that bad of a hiccup
when she finished it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, I mean you have to when you're doing stuff
like that, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah. I mean I wonder did old girl kind of
like set her up or get in her head because
you told her if you get find yourself going too fast,
just take a break. Yeah, and I think she was
trying to kind of practice that, internalize that, and then
it kind of messed her up, and then we got
wild cut, Treetside.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Wild count tryside. I also was thinking, well, I'll address
that when the meme comes up. But that happened, and
to me, as someone who's a broadcaster, that's not that
big of a deal. I would if this would have
happened to me, I don't think I would have given
it a second thought. I certainly wouldn't be expecting a
viral moment. Mean, like, there are far worse things. You
could have a booker hanging out your nose, You could
trip and fall like in today's climate, like I could see, okay,

(44:17):
here's my thing. I could see if this show, if
we were watching this through a twenty eleven or twenty
twelve lens, where this would have potential to become a meme.
But given that this is current like present day, there's
no way that wild cunt countryside, I don't think would
make a splash, even though it seems to be a
roll of the dice. You really don't know what will
become a meme and what won't.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I mean, this was such like and I have it
in my notes like an older person's joke, like only
somebody you know their age would even think about meming
that this would be even funny.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
No, yeah, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
We don't care as a youth.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
So then we get the next scene, and just.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Like that, which wild cut tree side, we went straight
to it.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Correct. Carrie cracks a joke about salmon, you know that
does She hopes that some salmon's out there because that's
the only fish she knows how to cook. Which I
was like, girl, if you know how to prepare salmon,
you literally know how to prepare anything. Like fish is
not hard to season. You disagree.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
I disagree, because salmon's a little bit hardier. So if
you overcook salmon a little bit, it's it's fine, But
any other fish it starts to get all flaky. Yeah,
like salmon, and salmon can take a beating.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah you see that. I agree, really can't. It's still
just a it's just a matter of of of heat,
temperature and timing. Like fish. The point I'm trying to
make is if you can prepare one form of fish,
you can do them like. They're not that complicated. They're
fish in season and whatever. But again, Whyatt isn't having it?

(46:03):
Carrie asks him what he wants to do instead of fishing,
and he wants to go to the mall to kill
zombies and one of those virtual reality places.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Not only is he not having it, he's being a dick. Yeah,
like he's he's being a complete dick because.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
This is Virginia, not Alaska, bitch.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Well, the funny thing is, as he was right before
he said it, in my mind, I'm like, salmon wouldn't
be in a pond. Salmon don't they swim upstream? Like
that was in my mind. And then he said what
he said, and I was like, see, you don't have
to say it like that.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
But then Homer was like, she's being funny, like relax,
bring it on down. Okay. So now we get Miranda.
She's preparing something to eat at Carrie's in Carrie's kitchen
when she gets a text from Brady and now enters
the wild Cunt meme, Sure, she calls him she's panicked.

(46:53):
I was like, I would have enjoyed them for this
wild Cunt meme to leave like white Twitter. And it
would have been nice if they would have incorporated a
beat in here, like I would have loved to hear it,
like a Vogue beat will cut well cut, Like that's
more realistic of mean culture anyway. Yeah, true, it's it's

(47:15):
just more realistic to me. But yeah, people, Yeah, who cares?
And Brady was right. The next time a celebrity says
or does something stupid like this is gonna leave. And
even if a celebrity didn't say or do anything stupid,
this is not gonna last in like the meme of
sphere or the new cycle too long, like you got
about twelve hours, mom, Bring it on down, relax.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Have you have you ever been memed?

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I have never been meaned before. I have created gifts.
I think I have like one or two gifts out there.
Is that how you pronounce it, gift jiff, But I've
never been meaned. I've never done anything mean worthy. I
think I'm too buttoned up. Yeah, even though my face
tells a story. That's one thing I can't like. Don't

(47:59):
have me like debating someone like my I can't like
my face, these eyebrows. Everything tells a story. So have
you ever been happy?

Speaker 2 (48:07):
No? No? I mean I think people have used like
a picture yeah, actually like friends, you know, not.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Like yeah, oh please, My friends have so many unsolicited
photos of me, screen grabs from FaceTime. They mean me
in group chats and and things like that, but not
on a public sphere.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
I've been dragged publicly.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Yeah, that munch time too. Yeah, people disagree. You get
dragged when you have an opinion.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I mean, I'm get dragged her now. I think what
I said. Then, I wish that Halle Bailey would stop
trying to be Indi iri and give us the Jena
Jackson bobs we deserve.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
And thank you all so much for joining us this episode.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Uh, just like that, I'm gonna catch and the clone
and Hollie stands are they're not happy with me right now?

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Well that that seems to be the cycle. What platform
did you say?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
The song? So it's crazy is I was cooking last
night and I was you know, I bounced back and
forth between Blue Sky. So, I'm Blue Sky. I'm active
on threads, I'm active on Twitter. I'm mostly read only
saying I don't like somebody. I know that I have
to like. Yeah, I feel like I need to respond to.
So I mistakenly and I was also listening to new music.
So I was listening to, uh, Cardi's new one and

(49:22):
then some other stuff, and I'm mistakenly music out right, Well,
that's where it came from. So I made a tweet
about I was posting about a Cardi's song, and then
I went to Halle's and I did them both on
Twitter or x or whatever. And then I was like,
oh shit, I just realized I'm in the wrong app.
And I tweeted that too, because I'm meant to do
it on the other one. And I was like, but

(49:42):
you know what, it's out there, I'm leaving it and
lo and behold.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Followers of.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Doo Dooo garbage.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yes, but yeah, dragging happens. I've never been a maze.
We then can get the next scene. We get them.
It's at the VR place, right, Oh yes, yes, we're
at the VR place, and Wyatt hits Carrie on the
head by accident, and I think it was an accident,

(50:18):
but a word to the ominous writing quote, I was
just trying to step in and save my dad. I
didn't mean it.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Now this scene pissed me off. This scene really sent
me over the edge of Haighten, like Carrie, get out
of there and break up with them and leave.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Well. Thing number one, Aiden cusses quite a lot. Yes,
I don't think I knew that.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
He's like, you are going to go kill any fucking
zombies without me?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Like he was. He was letting them out even when
he was shooting them. I mean there was a lot
of yeah, expetives flying around.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Well, his boy, his boys got the mouths of sailors too,
as we'll see towards the end of the episode.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Well, it made me think, well, it's whyat uh uh
a reflection of his father.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah, aren't we all, in some way, shaped form or
fashion an amalgamation of our parents, of the people who
reared us.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah, that's true. Well, and the second thing, which I
think is what you're about to talk about, and I quote,
I don't have to make him feel bad.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah, he's not a violent kid. You don't have to
make him feel bad, and Carrie's like, damn, I feel
like I can't even soothe my head now. And that's
when Aiden steps in and tries to comfort her by
kissing the boo boo, and she's not feeling it. I
would have been over.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
It too, touch me, Oh, you don't have to make it.
And I can't react in front of a grown child.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
And I also can't can't remember why it's problem. I
remember that he like crashed the car and was on substances,
but I can't what did that meant he was?

Speaker 2 (51:56):
He was he was troubled, right.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Right, so he was trouble. But I don't understand Aiden's
emphasis on like shielding him from all screen time.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
I mean, I think that's just his parenting style because
we find out later, you know, he doesn't want well
we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah we're going to be painting houses instead of taking
life saving medication.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
But in watching Wyatt throughout the episode, I'm I believe
there's some neuro diversions.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Oh for sure, there's so sure, not just.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Not just you know, the ADHD, which I have a
bone to pick with that too, because what we're seeing
that is not ADHD.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
He that's layer.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
We're onto some some bigger things.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
That's that's the name.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
But yeah, they didn't say specifically.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Well, so yeah, Aiden pissed me off with that. And
then we get the next scene. It's now time for
dinner at Charlotte's house and Miranda calls Charlotte as she's
getting you know, ready, Charlotte. Miranda's trying to just you know,
shoot the ship with Charlotte. And then of course Rock says, tell, Aunt, Miranda,
I saw her mean, like she said.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
You said, shoot the ship as if she wasn't on
the toilet.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
That is true. She tried to come into the bathroom,
which is also very common for cats. My dogs never
tried to do this. I was raised with both. But
my cat always loved trying to tiptoe in the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
When I was in the bathroom, Kenzo will sit at
my feet.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Well that's because he's obsessed with you. Yeah, true, Like
he is obsessed with you and always has been. Yeah,
so I have in my notes said it's a bit
chaotic over at Charlotte's house. You know, Pop Pop is
looking for cream soda and then the lady from ten
F comes up for her banana. Cha that's what I
got in my notes. This is a double entendre a banana.

(53:42):
Her name is Marylyn and Pop Pop's name is Morris.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Okay, see your names you and names.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Maryland wants, Maryland wants to spare everything. Maryland's like, I
loved that. I can't remember. I think it was Lily
made or it was either Lily or Rock that complimented
Charlotte's brisket and Marylynd was like, you got some barbecue
sauce sauce.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Like, ma'am all he's supposed to be here.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
And also Harry getting mad because because Pop Pop complimented
Charlotte's brisket, and he was like, you know, my sisters
thought you'd never be a real polite like why would
you tell Charlotte? You know, Charlie about to think about
this for forty right, why would you do that? But yeah,

(54:35):
Maryland asked for the barbecue sauce. Now this is when
we get Diego chatting and we find out that, which
I also loved the scene when Pop Pop asked, you know,
young man, what have you been up to? And Anthony
answers and he's like, don't brag. I wasn't even talking
to you.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah, I did enjoy this scene just as a whole.
It was yeah, a good way, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
It was good. I just noticed we got two fam
only dinner scenes. Yeah, there's the theme this episode. Well, Diego,
you know, pop Pop says, back in my day, boy
ballet dancers didn't have girlfriends, they had boyfriends. And Diego
broke it up by saying, oh, I have a boyfriend too.
Charlotte gagged too. I did too, gag what I love.

(55:22):
What I thought was so funny is Lily reveals that
Diego is Polly, and instead of addressing Lily directly, Pop
Pop says, rock you know all the new things.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Rock?

Speaker 1 (55:37):
You know all all of the new words and turns
and stuff. What is your sister talking about? Now, Denver,
don't reach through the computer and slap me when I
say this. Okay, I don't think I've ever heard of
poly sexual.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Well wait, because, having my notes, I don't think that
they explained that right, because pan sexual is attracted to
all genders sexual right if you're if you're in a
polyamorous relationship, I believe that you have the capacity to
love a bunch of people same time, like date them.

(56:18):
But if I'm not mistaken, and if you're listening and
you want to correct me and sending the speak pipe.
But you can be a polyamorous pan sexual. But I
don't think polysexual is a thing. Wouldn't that just be?

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Well, it might be, and you and I just might
be behind.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
It's possible. It's possible. I just kind of stick to
the rivers and lakes that I used to. You know,
I was so, I was like, I'm going to google
right now. I should have done the last night. I
just didn't care enough. But yeah, right now.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
I gagged though.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
See, a polysexual person is someone who is sexually and
or romantically attracted to multiple genders, being bisexual or pan sexual.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
So why not use polyamorous because it's just sex and
amorous implies actual like relationship.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Wait wait, wait, here's here's here's the nuance. Polysexual refers
to an attraction to multiple genders, while pan sexual refers
to an attraction to people regardless of gender.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Right, hearts, not parts, right, that's what they say for
pan sexual.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
I've heard while some pan sexual individuals might identify as polysexuals,
not all polysexual individuals are pan sexual, and polysexual individuals
may not be attracted to all genders.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
I guess sounds like I need to take a gender study.
Of course, you know, I'm very vanilla. I am a
serial monogamist and tragically heterosexual.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
My mind is like I don't care what you do.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
So I just don't care, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
I'm open to it all, sure, sure, Jan, but.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
We have to know the terms because we had we
we get roped into conversations. Yeah, so we have to
know the terms as time.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
But I mean we know them and they change and
they expand and you know, was bisexuals and evolved into
polysexual and pan sexual and we you know, we're just
adding letters to this acronym.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Okay, campus, So I'm like, hold on, what's crazy is
I heard?

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I heard how that sounded as it came out, and
I was like, wait.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Yeah, I saw you take a paw.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
That's was like, that is not what I'm what I
mean at all?

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Don't know and love you know that you don't mean
it that way. It's just the way. That's why I
let the air kind of just be dead right there,
because I clocked it to.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Like, okay, no, what I no, no, No, What I
mean is we keep adding to them faster than we
can learn what they actually are.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Correct, that's what, that's what I know.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
That is another podcast for another day. That's the after show,
because there are some theories I have that are not
appropriate for We're just like that. So then we get
the next scene, and it's bedtime and LTW and Herbert
they're getting ready for bed, and Lisa tells Herbert not
to worry about her sleep talking because she ended up

(59:34):
hiring Marion, so there's nothing to worry about, and you
can go to sleep. Please go to sleep in here, baby.
He agrees to go to sleep, and then LTW spends
her entire night staying awake, basically.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Which I mean, that's love, I guess, but I mean
my I didn't like him automatically defaulting to the guest room.
I feel like that was.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
I don't mind you solving a problem, but I don't
like you preemptively assuming there's going to be one, because
that's just that well he's going.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
To You understand where he's coming from, though, he's grown
accustomed to expecting that you're going to be in your
sleep talking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
About not after I said sleep divorce. That means you're
okay with sleep divorce, like you're you're you are sleep
separating from me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
We know one thing we know about Herbert Wexley is
he's always going to prioritize himself. He comes first. Yeah,
I just I just didn't like it. Well, So, like
I said, she spends. She spends all night, and then
we get our next scene, which is Sema packing up.
I love this scene because she gives this impassioned speech

(01:00:41):
to her assistant Keiki, and she extends an invitation for
Keki to join her Casima's branching out on her own,
and Kekey's like, uh, that's cute and all, but my
rent is three thousand dollars. And it wasn't really that impassioned.
It looked like she was trying to figure it out,
like kind of grand I saw you, and I believe
I took for someone to believe in me and so

(01:01:02):
and now I believe in you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
You're just full of shit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah, but my rent is three thousand dollars. I'm not
leaving this cushy job with Ryan. Then we get our
next scene. Aiden is setting the table as Tate pulls
up with Kathy and boyfriend Bob. Kathy comments on how
thin Wyatt is looking because she made him some macaroni
and cheese and she's begging him to eat it because
you need to carb on up. And he says that

(01:01:26):
Aiden is overworking him. Aiden jokes and says, call social services.
I didn't find this funny, but not all humor is
for me. I was like, what is this?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
So I was actually surprised that Aiden kind of took
that stance, just because he does kind of baby Wyat.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Yeah, he seems to be walking on eggshells with him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
So for him to kind of give a smart ass retort,
I was like, oh, okay, so you can like not
baby your son. Good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Now, what do you think about Tate? Do you think
he's being facetious or for real? When? Why when Aiden
was like Tate, you remember Carrie and He's like, no,
I don't, Oh no, I think it's being funny. Oh okay,
Because I was like, damn no.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
He seems to have he seems to have a good
sense of humor. From what I got though, he seems
to be pretty level, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Well, then we get Kathy thanking Carrie for bringing the
adderall and then suddenly Miranda calls Carrie steps away to
talk to Miranda. Carrie has seen the meme, which is funny.
I'm guessing Miranda sent it to her, and she steps
away to calm Miranda's nerves about this viral moment she's having,
and Miranda reveals that Joy canceled on coming over to

(01:02:39):
the Grammarcy house after dinner, and Miranda's beginning to spiral.
This happens sometimes we drum up narratives in our head
and instead of being balanced, we run with whatever narrative,
like our brain is always looking for confirmation bias. So
of course she's not speaking to me because she gave
me this opportunity and I just messed up so bad.
And I love that Carrie was girl. Only you are

(01:03:01):
thinking about that, like, it's not that it's not making
that big of a splash. But Miranda is totally like
borderline crashing out about this spiral. Yeah yeah, But then
Carrie gives her the idea to invite Joy and her
friends over to have a drink.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
After right, but not after clocking that what you mean,
are you invited her to my house? Which I have?
That would been my immediate question, yes, my initial what
do you mean for pause?

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Certainly especially given that you were, you know, finger banging
in my kitchen. Okay, I'm just saying we real comfort,
were real comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
We really have to be. You have to be real
comfortable to a cat sit in my house, and I
have to trust your judgments to bring whoever you're bringing
over to my house.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I do think that there is some symbolism in Carrie
not having furniture.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Yeah, oh for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
A house is not a home. A chair is still
a chair.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Chair.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
But I mean that ties in it comes back up
at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
It does, it does? So then oh yeah, I have
in my notes right here, I have a question to
ask you, which I feel like we kind of well,
do you think Carrie will stay at this grammar Sy
house ultimately or do you see her moving again?

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Mmm?

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
I think she'll stay. Okay, I think she'll stay, and
I think it. I mean, here's here's my honest thoughts.
I think that she will stay for the time being.
But at the rate Carrie likes to make a decision,
the show will be canceled before she gets a chance
to move out of that house.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Mm hmmm, hmm. Yeah, yeah, I'm moving in such a pain,
but she wouldn't have much to move. I just see
her downsizing, like the boys aren't coming. Her and Aidan
are about to break up. I don't see the room,
the need for all that space and spending all that
money to furnish that huge space when she can. It's
just her and Shoe. It's just her and Shoe. But nevertheless,

(01:05:00):
we get the next scene and Bob is chatting with Carrie,
telling her how long it is, how it took him
four years to break into this tight knit family. Like
that's a huge red flag. Aiden doesn't like Bob to
have opinions, which I kind of understand. I mean, they
didn't say how good and Bob have been dating. But
Bob is a boyfriend, not a husband. Yeah so I

(01:05:24):
get that. Understand that, Yeah, yeah, I get it. But
he also reveals that, you know, he totally sides with Kathy.
Aiden doesn't want Wyatt to take the adderall.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
So it's interesting, I think in my in my I
don't penchant for shock value TV. I mean, all these
predictions like oh, she's going to be the crackhead and
this that that, and hoping it would be something as
your man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
I thought Aiden was an addict. That was my prediction last.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
EPI come to come to find out it's weird because
it's a lot more normal. One parent agree is that
the parent doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Agree, which is common. It's very common, which is common,
especially in divorce.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
So I mean Aiden's and anti vaxx.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Are two I wouldn't would you be surprised? No, Aiden
probably stormed the damn capital probably, I mean surprised, like,
come on now. Carrie then goes to confront Aiden about
how she wouldn't have brought the adderall if she knew
he didn't approve. He abruptly cuts her off and says, Carrie,

(01:06:23):
not tonight, it's Tater Tot's birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Let me get our next scene. Joy and her friends
arrive for the drink. The friends recognize the wild cunt Miranda.
Miranda says it was taken out of well, she said context,
but the gay friend is like cunt test context. They
were just riding her ass. I mean, it's her moment,
and I wish Miranda would have leaned into it. I
know this is a mistake that's haunting her, but just

(01:06:50):
lean into it, girl, because it leans to it for
care less prone some people are less prone to to
lool about it if you lean into it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Yeah, but some people just genuinely do not like being
the butt of the joke.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Mm hmm. You know, just and mind you this is
coming from me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Probab would have taken them Miranda route and been panicking.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Yeah, now, I would have answer the door like hello, it's
me the wild cun I would have sucked all the
air out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Yeah. Yeah, before they could even make a punchline to
beat them to it. We didn't get the next scene,
Harry and Charlotte are attempting to have sex and he
can't seem to get it up. Harry is also obsessing
over old age. Charlotte happened to him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Sorry, but didn't this happen to him before?

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
I feel like it did? I feel like it did. Yeah. Yeah,
Charlotte comforts him in ways that only she can, you know.
With the warranty and how there's they will still be
Harry and Charlotte regardless of of of a sexual life.
And that's when Rock knocks on the door and reveals
that pop Pop's iPad was corrupted by poorn down loads.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Which is interesting because that actually, if it's an iPad
that doesn't happen, you know, just a little texted bit
and the file system is different. Yeah, but you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Don't know what he was looking up though all she
saw was pouring up. You don't know what type of
deviant sites he was on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Well, I think what kind of got me was even
after this whole pornhub thing, when they were getting out
of the room, they were just kind to let her
take the iPad with her.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
She was supposed to be going to go give it
to Pop Pop. Charlotte's mentioned nothing about this. Wait what
remember Charlotte was like, don't say anything to him, just
put it in back and just give it back, to
give it back, and she was like, well, he's not
even here. He went to and said, don't wait up right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
But but then after that they were like, just go,
just take it, just go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Yeah. Yeah, I think they trust Rock more than they
trusted Lily. Rock seems a bit more grounded. Lily's a
bit more erratic like her mama. Yeah, I don't know,
maybe Rock is I don't know, I don't know modern parentings.
What I say. This is the same woman who went
out in the snow to go in a snowstorm to
go get condoms. So it's like maybe it's yeah, maybe

(01:09:08):
it's not so uh. Then we get Joys. I have
in my notes Joys, obnoxious friends and Carrie's tiny kitchen
because they were up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Not just not, they were very clearly having way more
fun than Joy was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Yeah. Yeah, I noticed that Joy was not a funny acting.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
And that happens. I hate when that happens. It's rare.
But like, you know, when you're out with a bunch
of people and for some reason you're just like not
on the same yes everywhere. You might be tired and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
You're ready to go battery depleted.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Yeah yeah, but you're there trying to support and do
the thing, but you're just like all right, uh huh,
it happens.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
I hate when it happens. But yes, I have been
on I have been the I've been Joy, and I've
also been the friends. Yes, depending you know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
So now we get to the explosive scene of the episode.
It's Tate's birthday dinner. Everybody's gathered around playing Apples to apples,
and during this game, Carrie has unique explanations for all
of her choices. Whyatt is getting so upset because no
one is picking his clues right like, and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
This is when it started to click that Okay, there's
there's some deeper underlying yeah it yeah, diagnosis going on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
And something needs to be done because the older brothers
are fed up. And that's typically how it happens. Right
when there's problems with siblings, the other siblings are going
to be fed up, typically before the parents are, especially
if the parents aren't doing anything like much of anything.
It's like adultification of kids because we're walking on eggshells
around a sibling, like we can't rely, you know what

(01:10:47):
I mean. It's like being considerate, but at what cost?
If y'all ain't gonna do nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
You can only do this for so long. At some
something's gotta change.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Exactly. The brothers are Homer and Tate are fed up with.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Wyatt and I have in my notes Bob is the
MVP for me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I was like, I'm going to sit over here with
I already know. I've been here for four years. Yeah,
I know I know where this is going to go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
I know exactly where this is. I'm over here with
with my Sir Davis Neat.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Yep, exactly. I can't do anything. I can't have an opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
I'm just not even gonna subject myself to it at all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Nope. He was also he was just very funny in
this scene.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
You guys raise your school shooter.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
No shape, that's what Whyatt is giving down. Damn Denver,
that's what why it is giving down. Like that's a
recipe for disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
I mean he broke a window.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Well, yeah, Wyatt, I have in my note why it
has an outburst and ruins the game because Jennifer Lawrence
played mistiqn x men, and I should mention that he's
cursely like these are the most white Virginian curs When
anytime someone says Jesus fuck, I'm like, oh, I need
to get up out the room. Hello, this isn't the
room for me to be.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
At fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
At fourteen girl shawam. But then the outterall debate is
sparked in front of everyone. This is Kathy versus Aiden,
and this is when the ADHD diagnosis is brought to surface.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
And then and that ADHD and somebody with it. What
I was looking at that was not that's by itself.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
No, yeah, by itself. We shouldn't know that by itself.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
By itself.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
No, Carrie is so visibly uncomfortable, And even in this
chaotic scene, I still was laughing at her too, because.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
It was so pa me too, it was hopeless.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
It was like she her whole life was flashing in
front of her eyes, like is this something? And this
It also reminded me of how they say, like, when
you marry a person, you also marry the family, Like
it goes beyond the person. When you date a person,
you date the family, like depending on how close in
proximity people are and how frequently they come together and
meet up for reunions and celebrations. And it's like it

(01:12:53):
just seemed like Carrie's whole life was flashing before her
eyes because is this something I want to deal with?

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
She just want?

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
But you do have? This is fucked up. This is
very fussed up, and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
You don't seem to have control over it. No, that's
the thing, And I would be scared of that. Why
it would harm me? No, shape, I'm sleeping with one
eye open because he already don't like me, and we're
experiencing violent outbursts like this. No, ma'am, no, ma'am. So yeah,
Carrie's so uncomfortable whyatt breaks a window and runs off,

(01:13:28):
and that's that scene. We then get Joy leaving Miranda
and Miranda. What I love about this scene is Miranda
confronts it. Because Miranda could have let Joy leave and
just crashed out like Miranda could have spiraled. But it
serves you just rip the band aid off.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Miranda confronts her, say.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
It like you mean it. And what I love is
Joy's problem. Of course, this is the problem when we
when we adhere to our own narratives instead of seeking clarification.
Joy's problem isn't what Miranda thinks it is. It has
nothing to do with the meme, but instead it's because
she likes Miranda, and when she realizes that she's attracted
to somebody, she tends to shut down.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
That's sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
It's also very self aware. Yeah, because this happens every day.
Do I questioned whether or not I've turned into this girl?

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
I don't know if I'm activated and I like someone. No,
I think I actually get more activated. Actually I think
it a little nervous, you know. Yeah, No, I need you
to know what time it is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
I think that for me, it's contingent on whether or
not the energy is reciprocal. Mm hmm. If I feel
like it's one sided, I think I'm going to disengage
and shut down. If I feel like there's something there
I'm picking up on. I'm activated, I'm tuned in. I
think got you see, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
I'm so I'm so detached anchalon most of the time,
but when that's you're I'm really good at pulling your
locked in oh baby, oh oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
I also loved you know, Joy saying I'm a horrible
kisser and Miranda's like, let me be the judge.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Of that, and then she went for it. I live
like it wasn't even like Miranda leading that kiss. It
was Joy And I was like, this could either be
great or it could be terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
I live.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
What does Miranda know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Miranda's figuring it out, but I'm happy for her.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I mean, anything's better than JDS.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
So my god, let's get cha on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
No no, because they have to be mean to her face.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
It's rosy on the show. She ain't doing nothing in Ireland.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
I'm leaving it there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
We get to our final scene. Aiden and Carrie are
talking in the room. Aiden thinks Carrie is breaking up
with him. I have in my notes that she should
have and I was also hoping that she would have.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Well, I'm so glad. First of all, I'm so glad
that carry went back to the guest house.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
She said, you know what, my eyes have seen everything
that I need to back. Yeah, you do, Carrie said, WHOA,
that'll do it. You don't have to worry about me.
I also have in my notes that in this conversation,
Carrie and Aiden are having this tough conversation, and he
reveals that he asked her to stay technically out of
obligation because he felt bad for shutting her down in

(01:16:25):
the way that he was treating her in former episodes
like you didn't. He didn't want her to stay because
he wanted her to stay. It was to appease her.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Or you feel bad now you feel bad. I don't
like the entire family crumble.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Yeah, I don't. I don't like you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Back.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
She ends up giving him this damn key quote use
it when you can, use it when you need, but
don't use it out of guilt. I would have never
given him a key.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
The should have been the should have been the exit stage.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Left, yes, and she's leaving it too vague?

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Well, and she was like, you know, first I didn't
really understand why he needed to be here, but after
seeing it, I know you need to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Yeah, I don't need to be involved in this. And
I know the boys aren't coming up. I got them
mattresses in the hallway, like there's no need to design
a room for them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
So it was it was kind of like a breakup,
but also like keeping the door open. I just I
didn't I didn't understand class. I can't stand didn't understand
a SIY, do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Not leave this man. Don't give him this this this
life raft where he can just pop up in New
York and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Go to the whatever you have going on whenever he wants.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
To see refuge in your home and in between your
legs and back to Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
When you're dealing with somebody who's going through what Ry
is going through, it's kind of a lifelong situation. It's
not something that's going to resolve.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
No, No, that's not going anywhere. I was not breaking
it off.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Though, yeah it was. I don't know. But in this
just like a line of question marks, what like we're
breaking up, but here is a key.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
So but this is Carrie Bradshaw, This is classic Carrie Bradshaw.
It pissed me, isn't she a libra like girl? Puck
a make a decision? But also in this conversation, Carrie
makes a reference to game playing again, and she reveals
that she's been waiting on Aiden to make a move forward,
like she's calling out, she's speaking the red flags and

(01:18:23):
she has not gotten thumped upside her head to realize
that she needs to exit stage left out of this nose.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
She's a red flag too, She is a walking red flag.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Yeah, she's just a hopeless romantic who I just carry.
You've learned too many lessons. We've been following you for
twenty years. There's no reason you should be in your
mid fifties and still doing a lot of this same stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
I mean, I just wonder how many times is she
going to do this. Let's go down to Virginia and
do with the family and pray we don't have an outburst,
I mean, and.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Lock in for five years. And this boy is being
mugging me while doing his squeeze his stress ball, like
I can't even relax. Well, no, we In our final scene,
we get carried. She's landed in New York and you know,
the voice comes in, continuing this period piece novella she's writing.
And what I noticed about this episode is we did
not get a teaser for next week.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
No, we didn't. That's interesting, which I normally turned this
off anyway because I kind of like to go in blind.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
No, I like to see coming up next week on in.
Just like that, we did not get a teaser. How
would you rate this episode?

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
What is the last week at eight? I would say
seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
I give it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
I don't think I was as entertained as last week,
but I think I like well with cod so.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Right, this episode felt like it served a purpose of
just moving storylines forward. That's what it felt like to me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Even carinading like they move forward, but I feel like
we're still in the same are where are we?

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Well, hopefully we'll get Gardner Aiden, I mean Gardner Adam.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
I hope so, I hope so, And I did. I
did note that when she did at the end go
to buy that table that she that she loved, the
table that she wanted to put in her house. She
went to get it and.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Bring that up. Yeah, that that you carry you better
lock in. I feel like the universe has given her
all different types of signs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
You better lie, if you don't, if you don't move
on something that you want, you're gonna miss it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
So hopefully she took that lesson. If the man can't
teach her, maybe a table can.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
No really really really well with that? With that, I am,
I am satisfied with this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Satisfied. Listen, it's another episode with no mention of Samantha,
which I'm also happy about.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Yeah, I don't think we'll ever hear about Samantha good.
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We're just like that. We left hearing from you and
until next week

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Until next week, all right, bye all bye guys

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