False Alarm

Season 3? Oh yes!

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Listen as Shar and Denver unpack the Season 3 premiere of And Just Like That.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, Hey, it's Shar and this is Denver and we're
just like that. Welcome to the unofficial recap podcast for
Max's original series. And just like that. We're so excited, Denver.
So you're ready, I'm ready? All right, so let's get
things started.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
All right? Well, we are back Shar for another season.
Can you believe it?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yes, we are back. It is season three of them.
Just like that. Outlook good. We're back with no Chadeas
and no Professor Morning Show. But we're here.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
It makes me so sad fresh not DS Shade and
Kake Rocks.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I know. I have to ask you, though, Denver, have
you been checking out? Have you heard any of Kristin
Davis's podcast? Are you a Charlotte?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
No? No, no no. I mean I know you've sent me
some clips and some people have sent me some clips,
but I haven't been watching. What am I missing?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I mean, you're not really missing much. It's just fun
behind the same stories and she has everyone on from writers, producers,
costume designers, and cast. She had Cynthia Nixon on, she
had SJP on. It was it's cute. It's a cute
little podcast. I like it a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, is there anything like specific that you've learned, there's
something that I think I would find interesting outside of it.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I mean, it's it's almost too much. It's almost too
much a recap because she's watching the episodes and bringing
on guest stars as it's unfolding. So it's it's just like, oh,
this episode, it was really rainy that day and we
covered it up type things. So it's just little things
like that. Nothing to report back though, But it's a
cute show. I think you should check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Okay, So it's like a blonde recap of sex and
the City.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Or yeah, they're doing sex in the city.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh thank god? Okay, cool, you know what, I'm sorry,
I don't feel like there needs to be another and
just like that recap, I think we got I think.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah that's an official companion. Yeah yeah, we're officially unofficial.
That's that's the line I'm stealing from Kim Coles and
Erica Alexander with their Living Single their Reliving Single podcast.
We're officially unofficial.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Right, Hey listen, let me have a remixed intro, you know,
with the music, and we have yet to be sued,
so I think we're doing okay.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Okay, Also do you before we jump to this episode,
have you seen that Sarah Jessica Parker claims that she
reads two books a day. Do you believe that? Because
I posted and people wrote me and was like, oh,
this is total cap, this is total bs.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Do you believe insight? Isn't she a judge for that thing,
that literary whatever it's called.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, it's like booker or something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I mean if that's the case,
I could believe it. I could believe it. Yeah, I mean,
and let's be honest, what else does she have to do?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean, true, that's I say, she's a lady of leisure.
She's not performing. If she's not working or on stage
or on set, you know, she can afford maybe to
clunk out two books today. I don't have the focus
for that, though. I still have my large safety pins
as I mean, my large paper clips.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
That's bookmore one. I still have one. But I know
I was gonna say, I mean, maybe we're in a
new age, you know, I think a lot of time
is passed. Not I think. I know a lot of
time has passed since we did the show, since and
just like that came back and maybe she's feeding these
books into AI and they're just like telling her what's
going on, and that's how she's getting through two books today.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Maybe. So I do want to remind everyone listening as
our you know, our honorable third co host way in.
You know, we still are available if you want to
chat with us, if you want your voice to be
heard on the show where it's speakpipe dot com slash,
We're just like that. That's speak pipe speak pipe dot

(03:46):
com slash. We're just like that, And leave us a
voice note and maybe you can hear yourself on the show.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Hi, shar and Denver. Uh, this is Kelly, And I
was curious now that the season three of and Just
like That is out, are you both going to go
ahead and recap the season or do a watch and

(04:12):
broadcast about this new third season? Would love it because
you're your podcast is so light and bright and fun.
So I hope you guys do.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, and shout out to everybody who you know has
been listening in between seasons and has been tweeting us
and what is it called?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Now?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
What did it say?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
On Excellent?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I'm not even on Twitter anymore, posting us blues, guying us,
commenting saying I'm with you off the show and encouraging
us to come back, because that is truly, truly why
we're here.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yes, yes, so do are you ready to jump in?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Let's do it all right? Well, this season premiere opens up.
We see shoe in the window, and we're in Carrie's new, gorgeous,
spacious home. It's a really good home.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I know, know, it's stunningly beautiful. And shoot, Lotus I
think is their actual name in real life, ohka cat.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, and we see that Carrie's filling out a postcard
and then this what I did. What I do want
to note about this show, about this particular episode is
Denver and I are going to you know how we
all we typically go seen by scene. There were a
lot of jump cuts, so just bear with us. It
was a lot of like abrupt scene endings. And then
you know, there's a lot of back and forth. So

(05:30):
they start out with her doing the postcard, and then
we jump to the girls at a lady bar to
support Miranda.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Which I thought was so cute. I mean, it's cute
to their gathering at a place where Miranda can kind
of do her thing. Yet the ladies, because I don't
think we've seen that. I know we've seen them go
to gay bars. I don't think we've ever seen them
in an actual lesbian bar, have we.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Right, right? I mean, well, it's in fairness, even in
real life, you know, lesbian bars are damn near like unicorns.
So much of LGBTQ plus or queer or whatever you
want to call it culture is dominated, specifically geared towards
white gay men, and so it's it's interesting. I remember
I went to a lesbian bar when I was in

(06:11):
I think I was in Dallas. It was like New
Year's right after New Year's twenty seventeen. I went with
one of my homegirls and that was the biggest lesbian
bar I'd ever been to. It had two floors and
it was a damn good time, a damn real time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I even have any here in La that well, I
mean that I know of.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Can no. I think all of the bars here, maybe
there might be lesbian night like they give us negro nights.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oh yeah, I've stumbled into lesbian night on accident. And
let me tell you, I did not have the same
experience that you had in Dallas. You said, what so
I did not have the same experience you had in Dallas,
I will tell you that much.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh it wasn't fun.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, no, not for me. And one thing about me
that I've burned over the years is I am very
very very much into boys, into men. I like looking
at huh, like being around them. I enjoyed the presence
of them. And so at the time when I was
there stumbling through, it just didn't really have the energy
that I was going out looking for that night.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Gotcha, you had you had a certain vision for your
night and it's not yet.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And it was not. No, and the music's different, and
the people were lovely, of course, and everybody was having
a great time. It just wasn't the night that I wanted.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, Miranda, Miranda is not getting any play at this
bar so far, but then she spots a woman from
across the bar, but before she approaches her, Aiden gets
brought up by Charlotte and Carrie reveals that they've been corresponding.
So this is you know this This goes back to
a few minutes ago when the episode just opened up,

(07:42):
because Carrie reveals that they've been corresponding via postcard because
he asked for no communication while he irons out things
with his family.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
And I'm sorry when I as soon as I saw
the postcard in my mind, I said, you know what,
this is something Charlotte do with her paper clip and
her bookmark, and she would very much be that girl
to write a postcard. And I don't know, if you
could just get away with just a heart, I feel
like you would have some things to say, But I
don't very much your bread.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, I just don't know. Like I give my sister grace,
but a man asking me to wait five years for him,
and also for me, it would be a red flag,
like the no communication when I'm with my family, like
that would not work for me personally. But our sister's
dealing with what she's dealing with, so.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
And I just don't get it, Like there's just there's
there's so much dick in New York, even over fifteen
and you're still going back and forth with this man
who has he waiting for five years.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
This show just highlights, and we've said this before, it
just highlights how the mess is never ending. A lot
of these same conversations and situations unless you actively avoid
them and dodge them. It's cyclical, you know, we see
the unfold. Yes, I can't get past it's it's really crazy.

(09:04):
But so she mentions that to them, And so what
I loved about this scene is it was so clear
that Miranda and Charlotte both had things to say, but
they withheld. And I have in my notes that it's
a callback to the take a Sip from Sex and
the City Too when they went to Abu Dabbi, because
they both nonverbally looked at each other and they took
a sip of what they were sipping on.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
So, which is funny. I had I had a moment
like that last night. A friend made a revelation and
everybody was kind of like, all right, take a sip
was wrong. Here to support and love and cherish it, right,
and so go ahead. Carries were up to at this bar.
It look like young and flirty.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Oh yeah, I liked. I liked her dress too, it
was it was good. So Miranda then makes her way
to the woman across the bar who she was looking at,
and it turns out Miranda ends up gagging because this
woman catches her guard by saying her name, Hey Miranda,
and it turns out Miranda doesn't remember her. But this
is Brady's former babysitter, Cassandra.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, that would have gagged me too, Honestly, I don't know.
I don't know how it would have reacted, but in
our face would have just been cracked.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
And Miranda's I mean pretty much it was. But I
love that we get a catch up as to what's
been going on, because Miranda reveals in this conversation that
she is living in an airbnb. The Brownstone has been sold,
and Brady now lives in a loft with Steve. What
do you think about this update on her life?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
First of all, Miranda, what are we doing? I mean,
I'm glad she's in the program. As she said, I'm
hoping that that means we will see a lot less
of Brady this season. We don't care about him and
that girl and their sex life, Like I don't who cares?
And Steve can go too, like I think after last season,
now that I've start with it, like, I want all
of these girls to kind of move on, Yeah, completely,

(10:56):
So I hope that that's a nice way of just
kind of haying up some things so we can focus
on other things.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Right, And Miranda has been put through the ringer the
past two seasons. So she deserves a fresh start, for.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Sure, she does, she really does.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
So Miranda has her mocktails, and you know, Cassandra's girlfriend
walks into the bar. That's the end of that conversation.
Now what I loved about this is I think I've
told you this story, and I don't know if I
said it on the podcast, because Miranda orders a phony
Negroni And the first time I ever had a Negroni
was at a party for Grey's Anatomy and my crush

(11:32):
on the show at the time. He gave me a
sip of his and I gladly took this before he
was married. Okay, he brought his mother to the party,
but he put his name is Giacomo, and his name
is Giacomo and he played doctor Andrew de Luca on
Grey's Anatomy. I had the biggest crush on him. And
I had never heard of a negroni, Like genuinely had
never heard of an agroni. This had to have been

(11:53):
like twenty seventeen, and he was next to me at
the bar. He orders it, and then he offers me
a sip. I gladly took a sip. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
I mean, what the hell even is the phone? I
like Negronia's, but I mean without it, it's just like
apparol and bitters.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I mean, why eh l it sounds so nasty.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
No years. I think it was in the scene where
she was like I ran up a thirty seven dollars
mocktail tab was that this scene, I was a girl,
You're in New York? What is that? Like a drink
and a half?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah? I mean the drinks are are ridiculous. I saw
people openly complaining from I guess DC Pride was recently
and they were people were posting their receipts about how
cocktail was twenty five dollars. I'm like, oh, our pregame CHII.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
You know one time John Tay and I we were
at fucking Levane in New York and we had two
tequila on the rocks. Now that it was seventy two dollars.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Wowway robbery. Wow.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I was livid and the tequila wasn't the tequila we ordered.
We had to take it back, and you know, I
hate being that person, but I was like, seventy two dollars,
you don't make my drink?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, And I know that you're you specific about your
cocktails too.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
So I am, I am, I am. I've cut back
driking a lot, but when I do drink, I want
to drink exactly what I want.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know Denver. I
feel like I don't know you anymore.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I mean, I mean, girl, I still drink. Don't get
it twisted. I just I less less wine, less sugar. Yeah,
you know that whole thing, not for any other reason.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well, congratulations on that.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Oh girl, you know congrats is La beauty standards twisted?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yes, we wouldn't listen, we have to. Okay, we got.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Outside stressing, hungover right now, so trusts me that not
too much has changed.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
You said you're hungover right now.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, girl, I went out last night. I got into
like six this morning.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Oh my god, Denver, happy bride, happy freaking pride. So Seema, Seema,
we get our girl, Sema. This is her introduction to
the season, and she is clearly struggling in this new
relationship with Rovey. They haven't spoken in over a week,
and and you know she's ready for some sexy time.

(14:03):
He's not available.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I mean, Titty's good hair is good, like, I mean,
everything looked immaculate.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Everything was tossled and the bed was nice. And Robbie's
not available, you know, he's filming, and Sema does something
very dumb that I've never even thought about because I'm
not a smoker. But she lights a cigarette and lays back,
and I guess she dozed off and her bed caught
a fire.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
And now when I saw her put out that cigarette,
my first reaction was, ill, cigarettes in the house. That's nasty. Yeah,
And then I was like, wait, cigarettes in the bed,
that's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
And lo and behold, I've literally never heard and I'm
sure that people have burned down their entire homes and
probably died. Oh, this is not something that I've ever
heard of. I've never considered because like, no one in
my family and my immediate family smokes, like I just
wasn't around it. So it's not just a you know,
I don't know, I've never factored this. Ind but this

(14:57):
woman ends up singing off three inches of her hair.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Okay, now, how would you feel?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Oh, you know, I'd be livid. Whether it's one of
my wigs or my natural hair, I would be livid.
I love my hair. Now, Okay, at least her face
wasn't damaged at least I'm wondering.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
At least she was alive.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, but I'm like, when you smell that, like, I
don't know, I don't know, but beyond me. Also, when
you're exhausted, you know, stranger things have happened when when
you're exhausted. We're back at the Lady Bar, though, and
love is a losing game is playing in the background,
and this is where we meet one of the many

(15:39):
guest stars that is going to be that's slated for
this season. Rosy O'Donnell's character, as I call Miranda, has
a few nicknames for her, but I call her sister
Mary Lazarus. And the reason I call her Lazarus is
because Miranda woke that thing up from the dead.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Okay, I have so many I don't even know what
to say. Like, I knew Mary was gonna be an
awkward bird from the moment I saw her standing in
that bar. Correct, everything about her was just awkward.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Correct. I should also mention, because you know, I'm a
fan of Rosie, I should mention that Rosie O'Donnell. I
was watching an interview and Michael Patrick King, who is
the creator of this show the showrunner or what have you.
They used to do stand up together. They were like
on the stand up comedy circuit together, so he tapped
her to do She's only in one episode and they

(16:28):
caught her before. You know, Rosie is not a state
side anymore. She lives in Ireland now, so that's where
she went. I found out that she's one hundred percent
Irish on both sides of her family, so she went
back to her motherland. Okay, and that is where. But
I'm such a Rosie fan, even in all of her
wack of doodleness, like I enjoy her now.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
See when I saw me, I wasn't sure if it
was like my weird feelings about Rosie being projected onto
the character, if she was just weird, she was just weird,
nor even though my notes, you's just a rosiecause it's
rosy Mary.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, Rosie's a little cooler than Mary, like Rosie in
her real life. I feel like, I don't know if
it's like the I don't know. I just look at
her like Mary was giving mortuary tease like she I.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Would say, they're on opposite size of the spectrum, but
I feel like that might be inappropriate. She was.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
She was very pedestrian compared to Rosie in real life.
Oh but I thought, I have in my notes, I
thought Mary was the killer. I was surprised that Miranda,
because she's so painfully awkward. You're there when the bar
is closing down, and you mentioned like I have a
hotel room, like want to come over, Like I would
have thought that she was like the mass murderer.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Person, so that would have worked on you.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
I'm surprised Miranda went over there.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
That would have worked on you.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
No, that would not have worked on Ooh no, no, sir, No, sir.
And she's only in town for a week visiting from Canada.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I believe, Yeah, I wouldn't worked on either, especially in
my fifties. Oh no, it's Miranda that down bad to
where that actually is even an option.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I think this would have worked on me in my
early twenties and even then. I like to imagine that
I was a bit discerning, Like I was never a
silly girl. Okay, I have been silly, but I've never
been defined as a silly girl.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I feel you.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
But we're gonna see more of Mary. We then jump
to lt W and Herbert. It is four am and now, Jenniverer,
is this our first times as viewers? Is this our
first time seeing the Wexley's kitchen, because it's.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Sick in all caps in my notes, Oh my god,
that when I you know, you know, I love interiors
and how I watch howse youtubes.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
It's just all day long.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, I'll tell you my job dropped. I was like, yeah,
and their way to show it off in different scenes,
like there's another scene where he goes and gets a
drink and lifts that cabinet up again.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I'm living right, these people are living love. I also
have in my notes that I'm still so obsessed with
the artwork in their home, Like their artwork is just
so next level. And we see LTW she is prepping.
It's she's nervous as four fifteen in the morning and
she is preparing for her documentary presentation for production and
these execs and yeah, it's four fifteen in the morning.

(19:21):
And I have some notes about her that are going
to be reflective of last season, some observations that I
made about her and Herbert's marriage that's still annoy me,
but that'll come later.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Love that, I love that. In my notes, I literally
have you know.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Wait, you went out. You went out a little bit.
I missed what you were saying.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, oh, I was saying that I have in my
notes set. I thought that they would be in a
better place when we picked up, and their relationship still
annoys me. I just have annoys me. Yeah, you said
that they're annoying because they almost seem like they don't
like each other. Yes, they but they do, and it's
like this weird kind of power struggle. Yes, and I
don't know if that's ever going to resolve or if

(19:58):
it's something they've just accepted each other mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
But you know what, it's a reflection of so many
different marriages and romantic relationships. That's settling and that not
liking each other, but we're familiar with each other, and
this is just what it is. That's a reflection. You know,
the spark. They say, Eventually, the spark does die if
you don't if both parties don't make a concerted effort

(20:21):
to keep the fire alive, the spark eventually goes out.
And also things change when children are in the picture.
You know, you never know how someone's going to be
or how the relationship is going to go until that
dynamic shifts when there's a baby and kids in the picture.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
So now we're back in Mary's hotel, where Miranda and
her have just had the house down and Mary reveals
that she was a version prior to the electric and
natural night that she had with Miranda, and Miranda said, oh,
this is your first time with the woman, and Mary said, no, baby,
this is my first time with anyone. I am a nun.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I never, never in a million years would I have
seen that come there, Like, I don't even have the words,
And you know what kills me. What kills me is
Miranda that that down bad that she didn't realize that
she was a virgin as they were doing it, Because
I feel like I would know.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
You said, she's that down bath, that she what.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Didn't realize that, oh girl was a virgin as they
were doing it, Because I feel like I would know.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I feel like I would too. I feel like I
would to.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
If you don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
I feel like I would too.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
But who's to say Miranda is a down top because
there's just no way I was just.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
About to say, who's to say that they both were
in service to one another? Maybe Miranda was was the
one doing the do oh.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
For sure, it's giving Mary was a pillow princess down.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Uh huh, yes, Mary.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Ruined for the rest of the day. I just and
the velvet virginity thing. I I that would have made
me so uncomfortable. But next morning, I don't think that
I've ever knowingly taken anyone's virginity. Yeah, I think that
would make me feel very weird.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I know what, I don't think. I don't think I've
done that either. But I do know that I am
the you know, I've been with men before who I'm
I'm their first, you know girl like me that they've
been according to them. Who is to know? You know,
men lie every day, but I can typically tell much
to your point. I can tell by the way that
they move, you know. I could tell by the level

(22:32):
of I don't want to say comfortability, but I could
tell by the approach, you know. So I'm like, oh, yeah,
here we go. How you doing.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
There's a certain like assertiveness in a movement like right,
I've been here before, not.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Here right exactly. That's a good way of putting it.
I don't know how I would have reacted to this,
but I'm like you know, like I said, there have
been stranger things and.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Take it up with Jesus.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Oh, she's gonna take it up with Jesus later. But
now we're in Central Park with Charlotte. Now, to me, Denver,
this is a storyline that we could have done without.
It felt very to me. This storyline with Charlotte and
Richard Burdon spoke to the wackiness of the of the
writer's room sometimes, just like Miranda and the nun Mary.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I'm glad you said that because I literally have I
hate this Charlotte storyline. I hate it. It's every fiber
of my being.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
It's Charlotte LTW and her dog, Richard Burden, and we
get this crazy Karen, right peanuts Mama. It's crazy Karen
that's yelling and screaming and you know, making up stuff
accusing Richard Burden of being violent and saying essentially that
Richard Burdon attacked Peanut. And then this woman demands that

(23:49):
Charlotte pays for peanuts.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Mri.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Maybe the way I would have just turned and walked away,
like I would not have entertained that for a second.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
So that's funny, because you know what I have in
my notes, I said, Kenzo, what would you do. Let's
say you're walking Kenzo and this crazy, deranged Karen approaches
you accusing Kenzo of assault.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Well, first, I know my child can get it because
there's a chance that he could have done it.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I was about to say, bitch, knowing Kenzo, bitch and
it's a chance he could have done it.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Did you do this? But you know what, no, I mean,
Kenso is reactive, right, So I know as a dog
owner that there are just certain things that I just
don't do. Like when there's a certain another dog coming,
I'm moving to the other side elevator. He's little. I
just picked him up, you know what I mean. Like
I'm responsible enough for Kenso to avoid those things happening
around people. You know, I give people, you know, warnings

(24:41):
and how to you know, deal with him, and you
know that whole thing.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
So kens be unpredictable with me. Some days I feel
like he loved me, and other days I feel like
he like, why is this bitch here too?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
And goticking out. Oh you know, yeah, he got like
a bunch of tea taking out, so his front teeth
are gone now, oh yeah, I mean he stays a lot.
Don't get me wrong, but he's old, like his little
cheeth are falling out.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I mean it happens. He's only he's my best friend.
When I got a little salmon snack for him.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
That's my best friend, your best friend. But also same
you feed me right, I will be.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Your best friend, no shade. So then we get the
next scene, Charlotte is ranting to her family. This is
when we see the family for the first time this season,
but she's ranting to them about the incident. But also
in this scene, it's revealed that Lily got a little
crush on somebody in the ballet class. I said, Lily,

(25:37):
don't keep stressing her mama out. She just goes keeps
stressing her mama out.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Is the last boyfriend? Did they break up at the
last season? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I believe so, because wasn't if I didn't rewatch last season,
but I can I feel like Lily was heartbroken. All
I can remember from last season is Lily selling all
of her clothes and Charlotte losing it and trying to
go get the clothes back.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
And there was it wasn't like a.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yes, Remember Charlotte went to go get the condoms in
the snow. Yes, yeah, they just brighten anything for Charlotte child.
But but then we get Seema and Carrie. They're walking
and eating sorbet. Sema reveals her new haircut and she
is talking about now this conversation, they're just talking about
loving confidence and dating in their fifties because Sema is

(26:22):
so uncomfortable and she's like, oh, Carrie, Carrie is like,
I feel like Carrie is. This is one of those
scenes where Carrie's saving face because she feels uncertain. Yeah,
she's full of shit. She's full of shit. She's full
of shit because she's like, eat it. And I we
just get each other. We don't, you know, we don't
talk about things.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
And we're like, yeah, girl, I know I can't leave
go over there on going through that. But everything's fine
every year.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
But as for me and my man on this five
year plan, we get it. Then we get LTW in
a meeting with executives for her pitch. They are forty
five minutes late, and then we get Herbert's media randomly
calling her to ask is he cool?

Speaker 2 (27:07):
And he's not cool.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
No.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Let me just state up for the record, he's not.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
No, but you not You're not cool, but again interrupting
lt w's day. But he assumed the meeting was over,
but the but she reveals that Cheryl and Anisia were
forty five minutes late. Cheryl and Anisha, that's what I
have in my uh no I think is the black one.

(27:33):
I don't know. I just I just was laughing because
the Asian executive was sitting up there snacking down. And
when these ladies leave, the black exec says, do you
want to grab lunch? And the Asian woman says, I'm fasting. Girl.
You was just in there chomping down in that room.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
That's hilarious. They pussed me off, though.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
So Cheryl and Ansia they wait, what were you saying?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Oh so they pissed off both of them together.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, because they're asking for an impossible ask. Michelle Obama,
former First Lady forever first Lady to some of us,
and I wrote in my notes, because you know, some
things are under wraps. You know, do you think we're
gonna get a surprise cameo from Michelle Obama? Maybe on zoom,
if not in person.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I would gag. That wouldn't really surprise me at all,
especially with the way this season kind of shaping up.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, and in Michelle Obama is she's rapped by Cia.
I believe like she's she's out here doing the.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Things, you know, exactly exactly. But one thing I will
say about the scene that pissed me off was the
fact they wanted her to include Michelle Obama at all.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah. I don't know why, because she doesn't fit into
the grander scheme of ltw's vision for this documentary.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
No, that's one of those things where I feel like,
you know, certain even people of color, fellow people of color,
they have this thing where I gotta be careful about
how I say this. There's a certain no, can't say that.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Way either, take your time, take your time.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
You know, it's frustrating, you know, having worked in the
rooms and working on projects, and you know, you do
something that's very specific, very for a very specific audience,
and somewhere down the line somebody wants to make it
just a little more palatable for white people.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yes, just a little more, you know, Yes, And.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I think, especially working in entertainment and media, you.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Know, that's the name of the game.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
There's an audience you always have to account for, Yes,
even if it's not the audience you're trying to reach
and that frustrated me to my core.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, I mean it really does amplify. It really does
amplify what a lot of us say as black creatives
and people who work in this industry where we where
we are required to be hyper aware of specifically white
audiences and white people's sensitivities while they just get to
railroad and exploit ours and we're just expected to turn

(29:57):
a blind eye to that. Like, it is incredibly frustrated
when you put it that way, because it's a reality
of like literally everyday life. It doesn't matter the project,
the network, the publication, the production, it is being hyper
aware of. It's this hyper awareness that's never demanded from
the other people.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Right right. And I think what made it even more
frustrating is because because it was the Asian black women
demanding it, It's like, you know what you're trying to do,
but you're.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Still they know, but they also know what their boss
is the boss exactly. They know what their boss's boss's
boss wants as well.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, this is real black Can we just add the
black lady that all the white people know so that
don't watch it? Okay?

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Cool?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Thanks exactly, And that just.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
From there.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
From there we get Carrie us in her closet when
her alarm goes off, and what a journey to get
down to turn off that alarm. Did you think someone
had really broken in when when the scene happened.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
No, No, they're trying to show off that big ass house.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
That's all. I mean, they got it. That house is
in all honesty, I don't know if I would feel comfortable.
It's in a good location, but I don't know if
I would feel comfortable. I would need like shoe isn't
even enough. I'd probably have to get two cats and
a dog. Like it's just too much space for one person,
in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
And I feel like that's kind of what they're trying
to set.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Us up for, okay, because I also supposed.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
To be the house with Aiden and the kids, and this.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Right right, so I have this in my notes. I
have this in my notes. When the alarm goes off,
I said, I wonder if it's a metaphor. And the
reason I say that is because Carrie's password is Carrie
and Aiden to turn off the alarm. And then we
get Carrie slipping and falling and the notorious legendary line
from Life Alert Help. I fallen and I can't get up.

(31:51):
Miranda comes over, and you know, it turns out to
be a false alarm, and I have in my notes
this is a direct quote. The alarm was false because
Carrie says, my sensors are off and they're sending someone
to fix it. And that's why I said, I wonder
if this is a metaphor, right, because my sensors are

(32:12):
off and they're sending someone to fix it. It's Carrie
going to get a new love interest to fix it,
and her censors about this relationship are off. I hope.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
So as you know, I am not team Aiden. It's
never gonna happen for me. But why does she call
Miranda again? I don't was it just out of reflex?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Like?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Could you really not get up?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
On?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I feel like she could?

Speaker 1 (32:39):
You feel like she could what get up?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I feel like she could have gotten well.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
She she did get up, but she called Miranda. I
think Miranda was already scheduled to come over to begin with.
Oh okay, that's what I got from that scene and
got and Miranda tells this is one of the many
nicknames she came up with Mary. She called her sister
Mary one night stand in this scene, and she reveals
to Carrie what she's been up to and that this

(33:04):
woman is a tourist, which I was kind of cracking
up at the banter there because I I really like
when you live in big cities, like we're going to
see later on in this episode that you know, Mary
is at the eminem store, she just saw Wicked. And
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I
was like, this is the equivalent of someone like, you know,

(33:24):
saying that there Ripley's believe it or not on Hollywood
Boulevard or Madam Tussoud's or the TMZ tour, like if
they were to come to La or I'm at Runyon.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I mean, and there's nothing wrong with that, but don't
ask me if I want to do it.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
No, No, And New York is so New York is
inherently a bit more hectic than a city like Los Angeles.
So asking me to navigate Times Square are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Absolutely not, especially not for a nun a virgin nine.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Wow, Well she's not. She's a vision no more, okay.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I mean, you're a version until you know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
In my eyes, oh okay, now y'all respond to that
Speakerpike dot com slash. We're just like that. So our
next thing we get ltw and Herbert in the family.
Herbert is trying to be cool. It's annoying the hell
out of me. And I have that ltw Is is
spiraling right, she's cooking dinner, she's monitoring the kids. Eugenia

(34:18):
the doll is out smelling like pork. You know, Herbert
reminds Lisa about her initial vision. I did enjoy this
dynamic with them because I love a man that can
can center you, right. I love a man that can
that can bring it back to home base. And he
was really championing for his wife in this scene, like
why is Michelle Obama part of the conversation? And you're

(34:40):
getting away from You're letting these execs get you away
from from your initial vision and maybe you should double
down on what you presented.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
See And that's when I realized, Oh, okay, so they
are stronger than what I gave him credit for initially.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Knowing somebody in your corner would know how to be
in your corner and.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Do reminded me. I read, I listened to the audiobook
and also read Tina Knowles's book Matriarch, and it kind
of reminded me a little bit of how she described
she and Matthew's dynamic, like he won worth a day.
I'm like, Matthew is a serial cheater, but one thing
he also was good at was championing her, believing in her,
investing in her in a in an emotional way and

(35:21):
in like a financial way. Like I mean, both of
them are Capricorns, but like Matthew was Tina's ultimate cheerleader,
and we see that reflected in you know, Beyonce and
Solange's career. And so that's what I know. There are
two Capricorns, I know, Beyonce and Solandra surrounded by by
capricorns because Blue is a Capricorn.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Could you be in a cap cap.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
I actually have been before. One of my best relationships
was with a capricorn man. But I was a teenager.
We both were teenagers, but he was a year older
than me and he was That was one of my
best relationships.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
But just communicating, like hell.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yes, we were communicating and debating and it was good,
but everything every aspect correct. You know me, didn't know me,
know me. It was it was a good relationship. It's pretty.
But what was so crazy is none of my girlfriends
liked him. But that's typical with men that I like
or men that I It's very rare that like my
friends like go up for them. So I don't know,

(36:21):
but it always goes down in flames typically, So maybe
my friends be onto something.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Get you a fire sign. I'm telling you, well, I.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Am kind of feeling a fire sign right now. I am, actually,
of course.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, So we're always fun to feel, to feel.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
I don't want to say too much, but but fire
signs have also almost had me in a fifty one
to fifty hold, So it's a it's a give or take.
It's just most men that I find myself when I'd
be like, damn, what's your name, they end up being
a damn fire sign. I'm like, what the hell?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, I'm a Leo Magnet.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Oh well, thank got him. I'm not that. Nevertheless, we
get what's this next scene? Okay, so we get Carrie
and Giuseppe and Anthony. They are at the met for
the ballet. Charlotte cannot attend because the dog walker quit
right because Richard Burden is apparently you know, w reckon havoc.

(37:20):
But Anthony brings up Aiden and Carrie having no plan
or communication and quote unquote going with the flow because
it's not making sense to him. It's not making sense
to any of us really, And he was bothered.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
He was he was bothered. I don't think I've ever
seen him that invested in anything Carrie has going on.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, and Carrie, I mean, the subject changes. You know,
they end up going into the to the ballet, and
you know, he asks Rock, Anthony asks Rock, you know,
which one is it that Lily's into. We see the
guy and you know, jasebe kind of leans forward. I
love that Anthony said it's ballet, not grinder. I felt
that was a cheap shot, you know, from the writer's room,

(37:59):
but it works for their relationship. And I mean I
love that. Yeah, I mean it was pretty. I also
love that we see Lily smitten, totally smitten in this scene,
Like that's that young love right there, see see Denver,
that's that young that's that young infatuation, that's that young crush,

(38:23):
like Lily hadn't lived enough life. Right to me, that
represented a naivete that I feel like we all have
been there before. In our youth, but that's before you
get to live in life and life living you oftentimes.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Okay, listen, I will give her grace. Yeah, I was like,
girl down, put it away.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
And I think that it's best that Anti Carrey was
there because Lily, being that locked into that boy, Charlott
would have freaked out if she were able to attend.
Carrie is the right one because she's still locked in
the damn and no mention as to why Harry wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Oh yeah, it's probably working. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
So then we get another jump scene where Richard Burdon
has become a pariah and Charlotte is like, you know,
shopping around for a new dog walker. Okay, that's that scene, right.
You know we see her to walk him into the
babysitter and the guy's like, no, we can't take him
for daycare. Peanuts here and we heard about Joe dog.
It's all over Instagram, you know, it's he on the

(39:28):
shape room, right, he's getting slandered. So Richard Burden ain't
aloud have been here. Then we get Anthony. He's not
letting up on interrogating Carrie about the status of her relationship,
and he angers her because he flat out as like
bitch one plus one equal into in so many words.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Right right, And this is what I was saying. I
think I can bind the scenes in my mind. But
I've never seen him that invested in her shit. I
mean he wasn't wrong per se. Yeah, definitely the wrong messenger. Yeah,
Carrie doesn't respond to well to that.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
She does not see. That's why step Stanford Blatch was
was her best game, right, because he would have handled
that differently. And that is why you see why someone
like Anthony and Charlotte are friends, why they're besties. You know,
everything's a five alarm fire with them, you know. And
so we get to Zeppe kind of wheeling Anthony in

(40:18):
and cautioning him to think before he speaks. I said, oh, oh,
does that be coming with the sense that a poet?
Why do I have Carrie eight ball here?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
When ends up happening because she went home and show magic.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yes, the equivalent of of tarot cards like she's But
to me that was a sign of like, Carrie, you
you talking about the good ship and you not even
you're not even solid in how you feel about this relationship. Right,
And then we get aid and calling three beers in
and in his pickup truck in the middle.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Of a field. I can't talk about this. This was
probably I think the most awkward.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Oh my god. So we have to have we have
to harken back to one of my old shows, Kiss
and Tell, and we have to have a conversation about this,
right because Aiden is horny and he wants pham sex.
I did crack up when his knee hit the horn.
Oh my god, that really was hilarious to me.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Literally in his truck, honking his horn.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
So wait, what did you drunk?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I said. He was clearly in his truck honking his horn.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, honking his horn and drunk. And what I saw,
what I wrote in here is I am actually surprised
that Carrie participated in this, right, just the Cary that
we know, like this is this is new for her,
Like we have not seen this side of Carrie.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Well, I mean I think she realized five years Like,
what the hell else am I going to do? I
just I just so.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
So here's my thing. This is where I'm not good
and I will never entertain Well I shouldn't say never.
I am not interested in entertaining long distance relationships because
I'm not going to do this. There have been guys
in my past who have wanted to, you know, do
it on FaceTime that don't feel right to me, that
don't feel natural. I'm also, even though I am an
award winning journalist and quite the word smith, I'm not good.

(42:22):
It's not that I'm uncomfortable with sex. I'm just not
good at sexting. Like I'm not I'm not good at
describing to you what I want to do to you.
I can show you better than I can tell you.
It's just something about documenting it or saying it. Like
there have been men that have tried to have phones
and try to have this very moment with me right
where there want to have and I'm just I've just

(42:44):
never been that girl. I'm gonna fake it regardless.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I can. I can't do the phone says now FaceTime
I can do. I'm a visual person, you know, I
can okay and show and tell. But that whole sit
there and moan on the phone like.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
What I feel stupid it And and it also speaks
to their age that they didn't FaceTime right, It speaks
to the age crew. But yeah, I'm gonna I'm going
to the dash No no, but I did. I wanted
to know your thoughts about that, So thank thanks for sharing.

(43:15):
I'm just I'm not, no, yeah, awkward, I don't know,
so awkward, and the vibe was kind of killed. I
love that Carrie, like because I was not expecting Carrie
to like finish herself off, and so I was glad
that she was kind of there, like mommy, mommy, what
you got going on? And so it took carry out
of the moment and she fakes it. Now what pisses

(43:37):
me off about? Carrie? And we're going to talk about this?
This shows up later in the episode. Is this weird
like over sharing honesty thing that she has with men
in her life? And I say this as someone who
as I was packing. I went to New Orleans last
weekend and when I was packing, I just needed something
to watch. So I watched, of course, Wicked, but I
also pulled up Sex in the City to Abu Dhabi

(43:58):
and Carrie. You remember she she kissed Aiden in that
movie and Samantha told her, like, girl, let it go.
It was a kiss, and she was hell bent on
telling Big and it was like, girl, you didn't have
to drop him that.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
No, there is some shit you can just take to
the grave and it is okay.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
And I'm not encouraging infidelity. I'm not encouraging sneakiness or
untrustworthiness amongst romantic partners. But I just it's something about.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Her point sense has to prevail, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, it's nothing, you know, it's small, like it's
not anything, especially.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Because I never trust it.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Big.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I don't think that when Carrie was an Abu Dhabi
for the week that Big was monogamous. This is the
same man who wanted two days off from their marriage.
You know, he wanted to Like, I just don't anyway,
that's a whole other conversation. But it's gonna show up later,
so that's why I bring it up. So she fakes
the orgasm and that's the end of that scene. And then,
as I mentioned earlier, you know Mary, sister Mary, it's

(44:57):
sending Miranda photos.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Well, I mean, I mean, let me go back to this,
because I think the funniest thing in the phone sex
scene to me was like, girl, the cat made you stop.
But do you think the cat can tell you're faking it? Oh?

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Maybe so, because they're animals, think so.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
No, No, it just was it doesn't have a no
animal in the room policy, like I don't do things
in front of my dog at all.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
So craziest. Okay, so I'm going to touch on that.
But Carrie didn't even sound believable, and Aiden was like
so horny and locked in that he won't even paying attention,
like that was the laziest.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Like oh well, I mean, thank god, because honestly, I
don't think I want to hear s JP moan like
that was awkward to me and like it pushed her.
It was I'm not used to seeing her sexual in
that way. Oh yeah, this is this is kind of.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
We have never even seen Carrie have sex, have we well,
yes we have, Yes, we have at the end of
season season two finale.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, it's always very you know, sensual, like they kind
of cut away and come back right in an action
sexual activity. I don't I don't think I've seen that.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
I know she has a no nudity clause from season
one of Sex in the City and I laughed thinking
about like someone like Miranda, who always got her titties and.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Ass out would.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Chargeing more. So, uh so then we get Mary, well,
we get Miranda leaving Carrie this voicemail because sister Mary
is sending her photos. Mary is locked in.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
And to be clear, that was a voice in mail
and not a voice note, right.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yes, yes, yes, now you know I'm not a post
I will leave your ass a voicemail. I've left you voicemails.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, the only one who does.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah, I will leave you a voicemail.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
When I was I was where was I I think
it was flying. I was somewhere We're taking a nap
that I woke up.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
I was like, I left you a FaceTime mail.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
I was like, bitch, I don't think I've ever gotten
one of those. If I did, I think it was
from you before Mary.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
So I am not opposed to it. I want you
to know that I called, and I want you to
know what I was calling for. And uh, it relieves
some of my nerves. I am not opposed to. I
am a millennial who is not opposed to a voicemail.
And I know the gen z cringes at the thought
of that. Oh my god, they're probably pulling their hair
out at the thought of having it. Voice note with

(47:15):
a quickness, Yeah, they will. And a novel.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
To me, it's the same thing.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
A novel what we're doing right now, this minute, this
forty eight minute podcast, we almost an hour. They will
send voice notes that that's just like.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
This, And my favorite thing is to transcribe. When I
see you pop up, I just read it. Yeah, I
respond via text. I'm not sending you one back. I'm
just not there.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
I don't like long voice notes, by the way, they
can't be too long. I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, I don't like voice notutes at all, but a
lot of my frenzies them.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah, testing I like them, but they I don't need
them to be six minutes. But nevertheless, we get Sema
and ROVII and he is there early. He arrives early,
and he comes bearing gifts. Of course, forgot why she
cut her hair, which comes up later in the episod.
He notices her haircut but totally forgot why she had
to cut it, and he invites her out on a date,

(48:06):
but first he has to location scout three different locations.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Now, when you said it, I was like, oh, here
we go. And then I saw that band and I
was like, oh hell no.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yeah, I could tell this was doomed. I could tell
this was doomed. I could see if it was one
location three before lunch, like you're wearing me out.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
I'm gonna tell you, and I'm gonna tell you because
it's gonna come up. But I am surprised she entertained it.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I'm not. She got in the van, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
There's a thing she said. I guess I'll just give
my head because it's easy.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
It didn't end well, as we know. Yeah, and she said,
you know, but hey, I tried it or something like that,
and I was like, you know what, growth you sure did,
because there's no way in hell.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
I So that's the thing. We know that Sema wants love.
We know that she wants a romantic relationship, and sometimes
you know, that includes compromise, That includes sacrifice, and that
includes stepping out of things that you would have traditionally
or normally done to do things differently. And I'm not
surprised that she went along with this at all, because

(49:10):
she wanted to believe that there was a future with
Rovey until she had to confront the unavoidable, which is
this isn't for me and the buck stops here.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, sometimes you just have to be honest with yourself. Yeah,
So gotten older just kind of oh.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
If you're not honest with yourself, it's gonna cost you
in the end. Ask me how I know you gonna
end up paying a price. So so then we get
Richard burdon his ig is being docked and Charlotte and
LTW are talking about everything going on with him. But
then he gets a hold of Eugenia, the collector's item doll.

(49:50):
And this is when I questioned, because at first I
was like Richard Burden and whatever happened to Elizabeth Taylor?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Did she die?

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I can't remember because Charlotte had two dos, but this
is when I questioned. And I think this is when
Charlotte really questioned, because at first she was emphatic that
Richard Burton would never do anything like that, but when
he got ahold of Eugenia, she said, wait.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
A minute, but you know what, to be fair, like
I've seen some dogs hear some shit up. A dog
was playing with that, like it wasn't even like doing anything.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yeah, because they ended up getting it back from him
really easily, and it wasn't damaged.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
I wasn't an aggressive you know, I'm gonna tear this
shut up type of dog activity.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
And a dog tearing up a doll is not indicative
of them assaulting another dog. That those two things are
unrelated to me in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
So, as you mentioned, we kind of skipped ahead. You know,
Seema is at this pier with Rivey and she calls
Carrie to vent because you know she did she hadn't
had lunch, right, she'd had Sprite and Cool Ranch Dorito's.
She's location scouting. Yeah, she's angry. And I also noted
in here that you know, Rivey by the time he

(50:58):
settles on the location, I said, art imitates life. You know,
that's the quote. Because they've missed the lunch reservation and
the dinner reservation. Like, nigga, how long are we out
here for?

Speaker 2 (51:11):
And again I'm genuinely surprised that she let it go
along for as long as she did. Yeah, I mean,
you know that's not giving it a valiant effort, even
gonna make me miss lunch and dinner.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah, and you got me snacking on Cool Ranch Dorito's
and Sprite. And to me, this just showed like, if
you're not again to your point, if you're not honest
with yourself, you're gonna pay the price in the end.
Because this showed that Robbi's priorities are is clearly his career.
Seema is not a priority. And it makes me think
of mel Robbins in the book Let Them that I
read earlier this year, where she said something that I

(51:45):
will carry with me till my days are over. You
are either a priority or a convenience. And it is
not always that binary. But that tugged at my wig
so hard because it put everything into perspective. I had
a Raven Baxter moment where I was able to look
at every interaction I've ever had with whether that be
friendship or or romantic, and it's like, some things are

(52:09):
aren't as complicated or as nuanced as we want to
make them seem. You're literally either a priority or a convenience.
And that stings, but it's the truth in a lot
of situations when you boil it down to the root.
You know.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, I mean, what I will say is that I
liked seeing this power dynamic kind of power couple relationship
kind of fizzle because it's in contrast to LTW and
her Man. Yeah, they're both you know, strong independent people,
whereas LTW and her Man they kind of work together
in a way, right, And Robbie, you know, the two

(52:45):
they're they're moving in different directions with their power and
just saying that sometimes it works and sometimes it's just
it just doesn't.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I also love this quote. It was it was really
good when when Robbie goes, Damn, I lost track of time,
and Seema goes, you also lost track of me, or
maybe I lost track of me, and I think she did.
That was so good she breaks up with him. I
should also mention we kind of skipped a miss the
scene where Charlotte meets up this Karen approaches her, and

(53:14):
Charlotte is willing to concede after she sees what Richard
Burton did to Eugenia. So she's willing to concede and
pay the bill of the MRI for Peanut, and this
woman is totally unhinged. But then the real culprit, the
real dog that attacked Peanut, shows up, and this woman
is like doubling down. There's no concession here. She's like,

(53:35):
your dog is off the leash. It's like, are you
that blind? You need your glasses that bad that you
can't see that this isn't my dog. That Richard Burton
is right here on the leash.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Two things seen One, I would have recorded everything. Oh yeah,
because any proof that this is not my dog. I
don't know why Charlotte didn't not have been step one,
Step two, I'm sorry. Thing two. This is so dumb
and this is just it's just so dumb. Yeah, like
everybody'storyline is kind of moving along. This is just it's dumb.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
This was a dumb storyline, Like, it's so dumb for
the premiere. I just I don't know, I could have
used something a bit more creative. There's so much to
be done that we can do with Charlotte, and I
should mention, you know, giving grace. You know, this is
only the first episode and this I don't think we'll
be done with this podcast until like mid August, so
there's a lot to unfold potentially here.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
But I think it's like for a four premiere episode,
like where does where do we go from here? Like
there's nothing to build on now, it's just a waste. Yeah,
there's no development in her.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
No, I have no investment in Charlotte your Golden BLAT's
storyline as of this episode. None.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Bring System Morning Show back, profess in Morning Show.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
I know. I hate that she's gone, I'm going to
miss her, and I love that, you know, there's no acknowledgment.
And I believe that this episode picks up like two
or three months after the finale, and so I find
that kind of weird that there's like Naya is just
not part of the conversation, Like it's like Miranda was
just staying in this woman's house and having breakfast with

(55:06):
her and listening to her half sex and now. But
also that's a reflection on life. Sometimes shit happens that quickly, right,
I don't know. So now we're at the Red Rooster
with the Wexleys, and LTW seems stretched so thin. This
is what I have in my note. She's doing a lot,
she's dealing with Chauncey, the campaign manager. She's doing a

(55:27):
lot while doing her own things. And she mentions that
she had a four day ultimatum to put this together.
And she said that earlier. I believe, when when she
was cooking the Chinese food with her family, that it
was either this Red Rooster event or TikTok, And you know,
Chauncey was like, no, So this woman is stretched pretty thin.
And this is what I was mentioning at the top

(55:48):
of our episode. How this is a clear reflection of
last season with just how much LTW takes on in
this family. It's like Herbert is a child, which I
think so many women in particular can relate to, so
many married women and so many women who are in
heterosexual romantic relationships. It's like the man your partner can

(56:10):
morph into another an extension of the children. What are
you doing?

Speaker 2 (56:18):
I well, absolutely right, Well, you know, the.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Girls are there, and Carrie ends up revealing to Charlotte
and Miranda that Aiden called and they had phone sex
and you know, she faked, and Miranda's like, so what,
I faked real sex? I think they all have faked
like actual sex. But then Carrie says that their sex
life is the most honest thing about their relationship.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
A girl, girl, you know what I feel like, just like,
there's some things you need to tell your Signithian other,
there are some things you don't have to tell your friends.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
There's some stuff you really can just keep to yourself.
If your sex life is the most honest thing about
your relationship, sister, and he has you on hold for
five years, that's the point of even pursuing an actual
romantic relationship. Instead of just having the occasional drive by
until you all figure out what this is. What's the
point of I just I don't understand, Carrie. I don't understand.

(57:11):
I don't either. Is it delayed grief? I don't know
all of the lessons that she's learned. And we've been
with her since what since she was like thirty two?

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Like, it's just it isn't the great like the lesson
from the main lesson from season one, wasn't it like,
you know, people die, life is short? Yeah, don't waste
her time? Yeah, well, so much for that, So much
for that she's wasting her time.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
I mean, hey, sometimes the lessons stick, and sometimes you
go through them over and over until you learn until
it really sticks.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Oh my god, could you imagine if Aaden dies this season?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Oh my gosh, I'm gonna be like, I'm now I'm
gonna have to personally call up to the HBO Max
offices and say not now, hold on now. Which, by
the way, Jennifer Lewis is in this season. I'm excited
to see what role she plays.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Nevertheless, so Herbert and this five alarm choir for morehouse.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Up in Harlem singing, I recently.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Found out that Herbert is like does Broadway because I
have in my notes like was he really singing?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Because it looks like and meant to look it up,
so I was gonna ask you if you knew, but.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
I don't know. It looked like a bad lip sync,
but it actually might have been him singing because it's
a stage actor as well. I don't know what he
does on the stage, Like I don't know. I love
that Harry gets too Harry gets too excited and it's like, hell, yeah,
you know, stands up in Charlotte's like will it in
Baby Wheel it in?

Speaker 2 (58:38):
As I did not like what Anthony's Harlem globetrotter joke
for some reason, I wasn't a fan.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Of Wait, I missed that. What was the joke?

Speaker 2 (58:49):
He showed up but he was like, it's me You're
gay Harlem globetrotter or something like that, and I was like, oh,
hold on, I don't know if I like that.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
I don't know, well he is I tell in New
York City, Honey oh Gone. When they started singing can
you Stand the Rain, my mind went back because I
also just recently rewatched Best Man Holiday, and I.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Was like why would you rewatch that? The movie is
so sad?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
You know it is so sad, But I was I've
been looking for movies to pass the time, like when
I'm doing tasks, like they've become movies that I've seen
before have become like a timer of sorts, if you will, like, Okay,
the run time is one hour and forty minutes. By
the time this movie is over, I'll be done with
this task. It plays in the background type thing. And so, yeah,

(59:36):
that movie is terribly sad, but I love that franchise.
Did you know that they have a book. I'm thinking
about buying it. I know, I think it's Harper's book.
They actually released it as like a book book, and
I'm like, that's cool. I think I'm going to read that,
even though you know everything that happens. But nevertheless, Anthony
apologizes to carry quote, please don't cut me out. It

(59:57):
took me so long to get in. I don't know.
I think that's a reflection of them becoming closer. And
he took into account with Giuseppe's feedback about how he
needs to think before he speaks. He's so opinionated. I
should also mention that Patty Lapone who who is rightfully
so under so much fire right now. She plays Anthony's

(01:00:20):
mother this season, and so I think we're going to
see where Anthony gets it from, if you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
What at first glance, I thought the dog Park Lady
was her first glance at least that Pat don't know
stipend Oh crazy white lady, all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Right, someone else just barking up the bone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Honey, just mad at her from the whole the currents game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this old. I just what a disappointment,
and I just I didn't get a chance to interview her.
But she attended the Glad Media Awards this year, and
so I saw her and I spoke to her. I
was anticipating interviewing her, but she didn't. She didn't stop
for an interview. I wonder why. I won'st teculate she
has not. She has mm hmmm, she has not, and

(01:01:02):
I doubt that she will. Honestly, no, she won't. I
love that Carrie notes that, like, you're not the only
one with opinions about us, You're just the only one
that's saying them out loud, which is true because Carrie
knows her homegirls.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Okay, very true, which makes me, which leads me to
believe that like she kind of appreciated it almost.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Yeah, I think so too. I think so too. But
it's also a reflection of her being in denial. I
think that Anthony calling her out forced her to put the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Mirror up, you know, bitch, wake up. Mm.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
So then we get Chauncey confronting LTW running to her
like reveals, you know, like I didn't know anything about
you know this this choir like literally like she's the mom,
Like literally LTW is the mom. And in this conversation
he reveals that he used to work at the White
House ding ding ding ding ding.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
And I hope this works out for her because I
feel like she could use a bone, Like somebody somewhere
needs to be able to make this just a little
bit easier for her. And I'm hoping that he can
do it. Yeah, yeah, because she deserves it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
She does. She needs a break.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I just she needs a break.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
But I did see that there's going to be a
distraction coming in. Did you see who was coming in?
So I have a little spoiler about well, it's not
necessarily a spoiler, and I'm sure I could. I mean,
the interviews are out there. But God, his name just
escaped me that fact. Mccod Brooks is coming in, and
all I know is that she's going to be caught

(01:02:40):
off guard because I believe his character's name is Marian
and she's expecting a woman, and fine ass ma cod Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Shows I would let him catch me off guard too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
I'm interested to see where their relationship, where their marriage
ltw and Herbert's marriage goes. With this interruption of the
fine ass man who's going to be paying a close attention,
I would just have to start breaking my work home. Yeah,
I mean, we got to practice some discipline here. Then
we get Mary texting Miranda to meet her at the
eminem store in Times Square because Mary just finished seeing Wicked.

(01:03:17):
She just got out. She was with Alphaba and Glen
to Honey. Miranda meets up with Mary, and Mary mentions
that this week in New York has been the best
week of her life, and she gives Miranda what she
calls custom Eminem's Mary and Miranda. It's so corny, but
that's that's tourism it is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
And I will say, you know, I know that I
was really harsh on Mary earlier, but this scene kind
of softened me a bit. Yeah, that was like, oh,
you know, just all like I wish, I wish they
were like mundane things that got me that excited.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Yeah, you know what I mean. It shows just how
green she is, and there's something there's something scary but
a little novel about her naivete in my opinion, like
it's like, oh the down trod and Mary, you know
it's actually it was really cute. What I love you
right right, right, right right right. What I love about

(01:04:19):
this scene is that Miranda finally lets marry down gently
and Mary takes it well right, And I think that
that comes with age because oftentimes people's first sexual experiences,
they can become a little obsessive, right, And Mary was
coming on kind of strong. Yeah, throughout this week she's
a nun.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
So like what you gonna do, like turn up like
you know what I mean, Like in the whole thing,
just compassion and forgiveness and all that blah blah blahlah blah.
So I expected that from her.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Now. What made me scream in this scene is when
Miranda said, don't leave God for me, and Mary said, Miranda,
I would never leave God. We're Mary, We're married. She
said you can never you could never do the Holy
Ghost Bunney. I was like, okay, here we go, Sister Mary,
here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Oh And if I were Miranda, I would have felt away.
I'm like, oh, okay, well fuck you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Well she listened. She's still a nun What also sent
me is Mary Mary randomly breaking out in song from
the Wicked soundtrack. But what's funny is Rosie O'Donnell in
real life is such a Broadway bait, like she loves
Broadway that it was like, I wonder if that was improved.

(01:05:40):
And I'm being so serious. She said, I have been
changed for good because I knew you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
I said, sing Mary, okay, I'm glad. That's where she
started and stopped. I wasn't prepared for like an entire
burse or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
She should have said, she should have said, something has
changed within me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Something is I have a confession.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
I have yet to watch Wicked the movie. I haven't
seen it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Have you lost your mind?

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
I know, I know I've been meaning to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
What's stopping you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
I think Wicked fatigue? I think, like you know, I've
seen it. Of course, I've seen the show a million times.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yes, but.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
I think when it came out, I just was busy,
and then it was everywhere, and I was like, I'll
get around to it, and then I just haven't done
for it is so good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
I think I saw it in theaters maybe four times,
and I've watched it at home maybe two or three times. Literally,
the movie is so good. You have to watch it.
You have to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
And then I think, like I wanted to watch it
at home, you know, I wanted to be comfortable because
it is so long.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
It is so long. But also it worked really really
well in theaters, like I did not feel like to me,
I didn't feel in theaters like, oh my god, when
is this gonna end? Personally I didn't. I know that
was some people's feeling, but I was so wrapped up
in the story and the colors and the performances. Everything
is just so good. But promise me you will carve

(01:07:18):
out time in the month of June at least to
watch alphabe Englinda, Cynthia and Arianna did such a knockout job.
Such a knockout job.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
June is busy girls month, so maybe July maybe July.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Understandable married. So we're we're we're we're changed for good.
And then we get Carrie putting shoe out of her
room because now Carrie is ready to flick the bean,
flick the bean, and she calls Aiden, and it's really transparent.

(01:07:54):
This is what I was talking about earlier, that irritating shit,
like why do you have to tell him that you
faked it? Like girl, like stand up Carrie Bradshaw, goodness gracious,
and she's ready to jump back in. So she's she's
locked and loaded, and Aiden says, hold hold on, you
got a little bit too much dip on your chip
because I'm in bed with Wyatt. He didn't have a

(01:08:15):
good night.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Now this is weird to me, and not in like
a perverted kind of way, because you know, it's it's
not that. Yeah, it's just sir, you're a grown ass man.
Like if he's knocked out, so if you really wanted
to do it, get back in that truck.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Correct, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Like, just the whole thing didn't make sense to me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Correct, you can go to I'm sure there's other rooms
or places in the house. Don't he have a barn?
Like there's just places that you can excuse yourself to.
You live out in the in the boonies. You don't
have neighbors, you know. I think when he was in
that truck, what didn't he say he was on a
on a hill in the backyard, Like, yeah, there's there's
ways you can you can knock that out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
And and your girl quote unquote just you know, confessed
to something to you. If you're feeling bad about it,
you have nothing, you have nothing to give. But I'm
in bed with my son.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
This speaks to their dynamic because Carrie has always with
every man that Carrie has been with. Now I'm not,
I'm not, she's no saint, she's nowhere near perfect. But
Carrie has always accommodated and overcompensated for their needs and
been met halfway when it comes for her concerns to
be addressed and for her needs to be met. In

(01:09:26):
my view, Yeah, but as this happens to my earlier
point about that damn metaphor, my censors are off. The
alarm goes off again. I said, Oh, I wonder if
this this is putting a bowl on it for me,
because this just happened, and now you know, fault kitchen door.

(01:09:48):
The alarm's going off again.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Okay, I mean you might have been onto something.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, yeah, and so and so. To wrap things up, now,
I didn't note that Carrie can't sleep. She's tossing and turning,
and then she gets up to write. Now, what's interesting
is that if you remember back when they were at
the met with Anthony and Giuseppe, Giuseppe asked Carrie, has
she been writing? And she said no. So I wonder
if that ties in, like, does she have writer's block?

(01:10:17):
What is her writing at the end of this episode
and cracking open that laptop for the first time this
season at the very end, in the final few minutes,
what does that represent? What does that symbolize, especially after
the call that she just had with Aiden.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Yeah, you know, I wonder if, like Sema, you know,
I think maybe she realized she kind of lost herself
for a bit. You know, she moved out of the
apartment and she has this house and she's you know,
and she's like, I've been busy. I've been decorating in
this that and the third blah blah blah blah blah.
I think she kind of got caught up in the fantasy,
you know. Yeah, what hear and Aidan couldn't be or

(01:10:53):
should be held the phone sex fantasy. You know, I
think she Yeah, she woke up, like literally woke up. Okay,
this is who I am. I need to write, this
is what I like to do. M Let me just
stop being dumb for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
What I didn't know and I agree with you with that.
With that point of view, what I did notice this
episode ended and there was no and just like that
I figured it out. It ended with the woman wondered
what she had gotten herself into. What are your thoughts
on this, because this is not only in third person,
but this is such a departure from the first two seasons.

(01:11:33):
Is this gonna unfold as a story?

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Like I'm curious, we're getting a new bookcase somebody did
ask about Anthony asked me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
I think it was Joseeppe. No, it was Jeseppe.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yeah, I think we're going to get a new book.
And I think the only time she did say and
just like that is when she was arguing with Anthony
and she.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Was like and just like that, I'm not I forgive
you or something or yeah, yeah, something like that. I
didn't think about that. Maybe this is the new book unfolding,
and maybe she's maybe she's venturing from her own testimonials
to maybe writing a novel or some some fiction.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Yeah, I don't know, romance, fantasy, perhaps, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
But what do you rate this as a as a
season opener? What would you rate it on a scale
from one to ten?

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
You know what, I was kind of late watching it
because I was traveling, and I was really nervous going
into it because I had seen some not some nice
things about it online and I remember texting you I
was getting ready to watch it, and I was nervous.
And when I finally saw it, I was like, you
know what, I'm not mad because most things made sense,
most Charlotte most most, and it kind of felt like

(01:12:45):
the writers kind of know what they're doing a little
bit except for Charlotte. I mean, I feel like everybody's
characters kind of grounded enough to where they can really
kind of get into some actual stuffing to establish everybody's
storylines or what have you. Yeah, So as an opener,
I'll give it a seven. I think it would have
gotten an eight. Have we not wasted Charlotte on the dog?

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Mm hmmm? And I'd have to say the same for me.
You know, I watched the episodes twice. This one did
feel like a bit of a chore though, Like it
wasn't my favorite, so like I watched it just for
as a fan, and then I watched it a second
time the next day to take notes for this show.
And I will say I enjoyed it more the second

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time that I watched it, but it didn't I wasn't
racing to rewatch it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
And I was like, hmm, any episode without Jdas is
an automatic six. So I think that all things considered,
I think we're good. Yeah, I think we're good.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I think it's a good setup and I'm anticipating to
see where we go this season. And for the usual
those of you listening Denver, and I want to hear
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speakpipe dot com slash for just like that so we
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hosts back into the show. I got some dms from

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people we've been publicly you know, contacted on socials, as
you said about the show coming back, where we are back,
and we want to hear from you all as well.
And I also love when people point out things that
we might have missed, and so and so you y'all
know the routine. You know where to go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Yes, Now before we go, I have to ask, what
are you hoping to see this season? Totally? Do you
have any specific predictions for anybody?

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
I don't know what I'm hoping to see this season.
I guess more of the sloppiness that comes with life,
because that's been my favorite aspect about this shows, as
I've mentioned one hundred times over, is that it shows
that like a lot of the things, and it's reflective
from like what I hear from like ants, and like
when I hear some of the like their friendship drama

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for example, it's like, oh my god, this shit never ends.
Like this shit like everybody's got traumas that they're working through,
Like yeah, it's you know right now, I'm like, we
too grown. You know, I'm thirty seven and I'm like,
huh uh, we too grown for this? And that sentence
will I'm gonna be saying that for the rest of
my life, I feel, so I love. I just want

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to see the twists and turns and the character development.
I hope that we don't get anything too ridiculous. I
predict that Carrie and Aiden will break up. I predict
that LTW and Herbert's marriage will be tested in ways
that we can't predict. And I don't know what I
foresee for Miranda, Charlotte and Sema. I don't know where

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their storylines are going to go, but those are two
things that stand. I don't think that Carrie will Let's
stand out because I don't think that Carry and Aiden
are going to last. I don't see this going anywhere.
But I also don't know what that means for Carrie
in this big ass house with just her and her cat,
like you know. So that's some of my predictions. What
about you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Well, based on the first episode with the alarm and
the trailer, I mean, I think Aiden's gonna break in
or come through the kitchen door, and that's going to
be a mo oh. And I hope that it's when
they break up, and then I hope it's an episode two.
I hope, you know. I saw some people wanting another

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Samantha Jones cameo, but honestly, I can do without. I
actually kind of hope this season finally moves beyond Samantha
Jones and we actually don't hear about her at all.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
And I think I think that it will. What happened, Yeah,
I think that it will. I think that just like
we will not hear from stand about Stanford Blatch because
you know, he's a monk. You know. Often it's almost
like the same thing like phasing out, and it's and
it's a reflection about life because people will filter in
and out. It's an uncomfortable reality for some and an

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unfortunate truth for others. But it's part of life, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
And I think Giuseppe is gonna want kids, a kid.
I think that's gonna come up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
What you think what's gonna come up?

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Giuseppe's gonna want a kid. I think we'll have a
baby conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Okay, that'll be interesting because I don't see Anthony as
the type that wants to be a father at all,
But I can see it interesting interesting. I hope that
what I will say as we wrap is I hope
that this season is easy on Miranda. She deserves a
damn break. I hope that she finds the happy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
No, she doesn't, because I'm still traumatized by that fingerbang
in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Wasn't that season one?

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
I don't remember what season it was, so I hope
she never finds peace.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
No, I want Miranda to relax. She deserves some of me.
Life has been so sloppy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
No, she has been a hot pocket and I had
been that wholeheartedly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Wow, talking about a play on words, Brady to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
J d as to last season, wasn't it like some
news anchor she went out with at the very end
some corseponds.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Oh, which, which, by the way, you would be very
pleased to know, because you brought this up last season
on our show, and I had never seen the show
and I recently binged it at the top of the
year Younger. I watched Younger, so I saw the intermingling
of casts because Darren gosh, Darren what's his name?

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Darren what Darren star star?

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
I think it's star. Darren Starr created both shows. And
so the weird guy that Carrie was in the relationship
with or dated for like one episode, I just saw
how it connected. But that news anchor, that woman that
Miranda hooked up with was the boss, was the Hillary
Duff girl and the boss. So I was like, oh, okay,
we're giving them jobs. And I found out that she

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wasn't in the final season of Younger because something. I
don't want to say that she was anti vax, but
it was something about her not wanting.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
To Yeah, something like that. I love that show. It's
can't be in short and there's some kind of bridges,
a gap between sex and the city, and just like that,
for me, it kind of sits in the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
And for me it had some trans allegory up in there.
But in this essay, I will for a later episode,
different show. Yes, yes, yes, the show.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
All right, this has been a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Same, we're back, We're season three. Buckle up kids. Oh
and also one more thing. I hope Mary's done. Oh
she's a one and done.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Yeah she is. Rosie O'Donnell said that she did one
episode in the interview that I saw, so we won't see.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Any more of her good and I can't take it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
She was great though. I loved her in the role
Rosie played that she played that because I've been changed
for good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
And on that note or collection of notes, we're get
in this.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
We gave you all along when a juicy one. So
we'll see you next week.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
We'll see you next week. Bye everybody, Bye,