Shattered Glass and Michael Kors

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, Hey, it's shar Hey, this is Denver, and we're
just like that. Welcome to the unofficial recap podcast for
Max's original series. And just like that, we're so excited, Denver.
So you're ready, I'm ready, all right, So let's get
things started. Hello everyone, Hello, Hello, we're back. Yeah we are,

(00:28):
Hi Denver. Hey, Season three, episode six, Silent Mode. That's
what we're going to be recapping today. And I keep
I know that I have to greet everyone by saying hello,
but I keep forgetting about our intro music. How it
already does it for us? I should just jump right now.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's fine, it's it doesn't matter, but it's interesting. When
I saw the title for this episode, Silent Mode, I
was like, now, what the hell is this? And it
was way more significant than I expected it to.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Be, for sure, for sure. But before we jump in,
I just have to really tip my hat to all
of you all who are letting your voices be heard
in our comments. The YouTube is picking up steam. Denver.
You told me we got some fun comments in the
Spotify We did.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
We did, Thank you everybody. It's nice to know that
people are watching and enjoying.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yes, yes, and we also have three speak pipes, so,
per the usual, we're going to hear from you all,
and the best way for your voice to be heard
on the show, of course, is to visit speakpipe dot
com slash. We're just like that. Leave us a voicemail
and you get played on the show. So we have
three of them. We have three of them, so we're

(01:39):
going to address these and then hop into the latest episode.
All right, so our first one, let me turn off
my fan because I don't want anything to jeopardize on.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I'm so hot today, I am all day.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I mean metaphorically as well. I've been pissed today.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh one of those days.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Oh, I mean for obvious reasons.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Been an intense day. Yeah, it's been an intense day.
But anyway, our first week pipe comes from our friend Marvelous.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
My shaw.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Marvelous is back for another week, so let's get so.
Carry has turned on, but I just feel it and
sell am. I. I don't like Blake then, but he's
the best fit at this age since Big and he's
a nice breath of fresh air since aiding all of
his bullshit, I'm overabing. We need to get rid of him.
But this introduction of the brit is creating a nice

(02:36):
little sense of sexual tension that is going to turn
into something else, something more so I'm hoping for it
or here for Charlotte. But that was super unfair with
him to ask of her. Once you disposed a secret,
then it is no longer a secret. You know. The
damn Tints are getting all my fucking nerves. Lily, he's gay.

(02:56):
Let it go, okay, Miranda and Carrie, we're two old
biddies that did not need to live together. Miranda walking
but ass naked was not on my beingle car and
a true jumps here for men, then pants in that
three quarter lank top, the carry handle on everything. Okay,
that little pop of Samantha was just what we needed.

(03:16):
Just reading her voice was enough.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Eggs, I don't trust him or his dangly earrings. Lisa, Todd,
Wexley and Herbert. That marriage is over and done with.
This has me thinking that Eggs is definitely gonna ear out.
I wish that Tussaut was Eggs and Eggs was too
sent but should have could have went up until next time.
I loves.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'm okay, it's a lot to we have a lot
to unpack with that. What I will start off by
saying is that we re marvelous. We do not participate
in buy erasure or.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
We do not do that.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
We do not do that. That is so reductive. And
and you know those sexuality, sexualities on a spectrum. I'm
not gonna lecture. I'm not gonna grand stand on the show.
But you know better, and the listeners you all know better.
If you're feeling the same way. It's all. And I
don't think that that damn what's her? What's what's the
lle boyfriend name? I can't even remember Diego because Eric,

(04:20):
Eric is his boyfriend. Yeah, I don't think. I don't
think he's gay. But to your point, Denver eggs.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Eggs shout out to the true Blood reference. I forgot
about Tucson, but it was nice to hear his name again,
the chef since the morning Professor morning shows.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, so that was his
name to Son, Yes, who is he? You know, I
always remember that guy. I always forget that guy's name.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I don't think I ever knew it. I think ever
knew it. He's just fine.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I just was talking to Anthony about this and I
said his name and I forgot it. But yeah, he's fine.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
And if you're find enough, your name doesn't matter, it
doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
It would have been good.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I thought he you might eat her box prior to
this episode. Now I'm not so sure, but we'll get
into that later.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
We will unpack that. Our next caller, Thank you for marvelous.
Our next caller is from Donya.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Hi, Charlon Denver. This is Donya. I'm from Cleveland, Ohio.
I live for your podcast. I just love it. Thank
you so much for doing it. I have a question
for you. I was rewatching on the last episode with
Harry telling Charlotte about the prostate cancer, and I was wondering,
what is your opinion on couples, you know of one

(05:40):
of the pieces of the couple getting their own, you know, diagnosis,
going to the doctor on their own, make an appointment
like that to check out his prostate on his own
without telling Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
First.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
I know you talked about in an episode about Charlotte
going you know, overly dramatic and things like that, and
so I understand that, but I was just thinking about
my own husband and I would feel, you know, I
guess I would be making about me, but I would feel.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Some ways about him going.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
To have any suspicions, not talking to him, to me
about it, going to jack Girl's own and they're coming
back to me with the diagnosis rather than us going
through every step together. I feel like I would do
the same for him if I, you know, suspected, if
I felt a lump for something in.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
My brain, I would tell him about it first.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
I would make the appointment or ask if you wanted
to come, you know, every step of the way, I would.
I would, you know, having be a part of it.
So I was just wondering what you all think about that.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Okay, thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's question, like interesting question. Well, well, Denver,
you're the one partner, so I'll let you go first.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Ironically, there is a question that I was thinking kind
of a bit about today because I was I was
telling you today was physical day for me. So I
went to the doctor and got everything checked out, and
my partner did too. Funny enough, we actually have the
same doctor. We didn't go at the same time, but
we just had no no, there's a separation there, no
no no. But my mom's a doctor and so I've

(07:17):
always been like the one who's really down for what's
going on. Tell me, does it hurt? Here? Coffe two times.
I've almost been trained that way. So whenever anything does
go on with my partner, I'm usually the first to
know about it. You know, he can't sniff without me knowing. Yeah,
he's just really comfortable telling me and I'm comfortable listening,
and you know, we do all that stuff together. So

(07:39):
for it's something serious, I would hope he would tell
me first. Yeah, but I also wouldn't be mad if
he went to the doctor on his own. It would
be out of character for our relationship, just because again,
he can't put his nose without me knowing about it,
just because that's just how we are. But I wouldn't
be upset. Yeah, I would understand.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I definitely think that it's it's it's nuanced, which people
get annoyed when I say that, But I just think
health matters.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
What's your first you gonna say it?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
No, it's it's not appropriate, my fa my first My
first favorite in word is actually no, if we're being honest, no,
I love that. But I think that matters of health
are so deeply personal, whether you're married, partnered, whatever the
status of your relationship might be. So I think I

(08:37):
might offer a little bit of grace if a if
a man that I was with went and started this process,
because I mean, it's one of those things where you
don't know the outcome, and yes, you know you want
your partner to be there to support you in most cases.
But I just look at matters of health to be
so deeply personal, no matter how much time and space
you share with someone, it's it's it's so sing almost,

(09:01):
and so yeah, I don't know if I would feel
some type of way about that.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, especially with something that heavy, you know. I mean
if he if he had a real suspicion when was
like really afraid, that would just make all the more
sense to me as to why he didn't tell.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Me, right, because he has to process it himself, Especially
with a wife like Charlotte, he probably needed a you know,
a day or two to process it himself before revealing
to her.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
So, but the good thing is question when you're already
I do feel like I am the best person to
tell I'm the best person to go on that spiral
with you, just because I don't I don't spiral.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, and some people I know that I have the
propensity to spiral. I don't always spiral, but some people
handle news better than others, and it's it's kind of tough.
You know, there's been a lot of conversations around health
care and coverage, and you know, life comes at you fast,
and none of us are above life coming at us fast.
None of us. Anything can happen in the blink of

(09:58):
an eye, and so it's interesting navigating that, whether you're
partnered or not. But I'd love to know what you
all think about this, Let us know, and then our
final call is from Alex. So let's take a listen
to what Alex.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Had to say.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
Hey, Denver and shar this is Alex. I love you
guys' show. It truly keeps my energy up during the
heinous writing that ensues during the season. Shar I two
m a Churchill Elementary School attendee, so shout out to
you as well. My one comment on this episode, besides
Carrie and her shoes of it all is definitely LTW

(10:39):
and her husband because he was doing entirely too much
at the campsite. Like the children are very coherent.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Hurst cuts off right there. Alex, you might have to
call back. That's the end of your calm. Oh that
sounds like it was gonna be a good one, but
it cuts off right there.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, well we'll get to Harbard later because you know, yes,
we will call back and finish your first thought and
then speak on what we're gonna talk about later.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Okay again, thank you to remarvel Is, Donia and Alex.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Again.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
If you want your voice to be heard, speakpipe dot
com slash. We're just like that. Denver, are you I
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Speaker 2 (11:24):
Long show, wrong show, Denver?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Are you ready to dive into silent mode?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I am not ready to get into silent mode. Let's
do it, all.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Right, let's jump in. So the episode opens up with
Carrie and Duncan. They are having a romantic dinner. At
least I framed it as romantic. The rain is pitter pattering,
they're stew and wine. I love.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I mean it surprised me. I was at his house. Really,
I care you have all of that beautiful space upstairs.
You didn't want him at that table.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Carrie is always gonna be following up behind some man,
and that's no shape. My sister is always going to
accommodate a man, to make him comfortable always. That's just
of her nature. That's just of her nature. And I
can't say that I blame her. And I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that in a in a regressive, reductive way.
I'm saying that in a bird way. Y'all gott to
walk with me here, don't don't leave me.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
We know, we know who you are, and we love
you for it.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
You gotta watch them be words, then you gotta watch
them be words. But yeah, I looked at it as
romantic with the rain pitter pattering, but they're serving he's
serving her mudd and stew, which I had to look
up I never had, have.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
You ever had? I figured, it's a British thing, and
all that food is nasty and sore.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I mean, you know, actually, when I went to London,
I actually enjoyed the food, but I ate. I didn't
eat anything out of my range, like I had delicious
sushi over there. I went to a huh, actually did
not try Nando's when I over there. I heard that
was the chicken spot, but I wanted to try different stuff.
I went to a burger place that was really good

(13:05):
and they had like it was like they locally sourced everything.
That's what I liked about things taste different. I had
a cheeseburger and fries and they taste it fresh, like homemade.
And then I had sushi at Sushi Samba in that tower.
I really liked London. There was nothing I tasted that
I was like, uh, like I enjoyed the food.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I really restaurants, but then like I think the hotel
food was just nasty from what I.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Oh, yeah, see, I didn't eat at the hotel.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
The most in the morning, just because it was included
like breakfast. Yeah, and it's like beans on my plate.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Oh, Like, what the fuck is my god blood? Did
you have the blood sausage? No?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
But it was there. Mmm, maybe I could try it.
I think I did try it. That might have been
the only thing I ate. Actually, my god, now that
I think about it.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, they're they're having this discussion and they're basically talking
about reading one another's work. That's what I got from
this scene. I should also mention that Carrie's doing her
voice over about like with her book, like, but it's
also mirroring her life this you know, as we've been
following along. She's been narrating her life in third person.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And that chapter Swamp felt really intimate to me, way
more intimate than the dinner itself. Oh for that, can
you read my chapter? We read in mine too. I
was like, whoa, bitch down, Like, how did we get
here already? Like any how did we get here.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
As someone who has been there before in various forms,
with editing and reading over a piece before it submitted
and taking a look at her real like I was
ready to bar for really.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
You might as well just get naked at that point,
I mean, what are we doing? What are we doing? Whoa,
that's that's no no sex needed.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I mean you know what sometimes I do, and this
is a sort of conversation, but sometimes non sexual forms
of intimacy are more dangerous than sexual intimacy.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, absolutely, they are the most dangerous, more dangerous intimacy. Absolutely.
That's when people are like, oh I just had an
emotional affair. I'm like, it still counts. Girl still counts
to me anyway.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Next scene, our next scene, we get Carrie. She's on
the phone talking about the terrible meals she just had
the night before. Now, when she was on the phone,
I assumed she was chatting with Miranda.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
She's just a very homegirl conversation.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
It was a very home girl conversation. But no, no, no,
she was chatting with Aiden. And to me, that lets
me know how innocent Carrie and Duncan's interactions are at
this current time in their friendship. It has to be innocent,
because it was, like, to your point, it was very girl.
You won't believe what this man fed me last.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Night, right, that's what Who's dunking? Who's Duncan? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
So I noticed in this conversation Carrie, I have in
my notes do you not listen when I'm talking? Aiden
states that I'm a better listener in person. I'm coming
up to New York again. This this is a recurring
thing because when Carrie asked this question, my mind instantly
went back to the damn table when they were laid

(16:15):
up after connelingis in Virginia and Carrie mentions the table
and he's like, what table?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Like?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Do you not listen when I'm speaking? And these two
have such a bad, like a terrible communication pattern, which
we will get into, Oh yeah we will. But Aiden
shares that Wyatt is going to doing a Wilderness program
in Wyoming for a week, so Aiden is free to
come to New York to see Carrie.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Now, when he first said it, mynt thought was God's
gonna let that boy off into the woods. But then
he was like, we vettited and it's fine. I was like, okay,
you know what my mind is, still want to let
him off.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
You know what my mind went to. It was far
more sinister. I don't know why I don't trust Aiden.
Oh my mind went to one of those camps that
Paris Hilton survived.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh, I mean that's what he needs, Denver. What my god.
I'm not saying like the abuse part. I'm just saying
like he needs to be shipped away to learn some
values or something.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Okay, whatever that means, like boarding school, that's more. Okay,
that's okay. Now I get what you're saying. Because Paris
did a whole documentary about what she went.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Through, and you talk about I didn't watch it. I
love her to death. I didn't watch it.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh you didn't watch it.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
No, I skimmed through the memoir. I was like, I
thought I cared, so I got it. Well. No, By
the way, her life a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Great, I heard, I heard that she was down at
that place. Now have you did you? Have you checked
out the astral World documentary yet?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
No, the trailer made me. It's sad.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Denver, you have to watch this and get back to me.
It is sad. It is sad that it is one
of the wildest documentaries I've ever watched. You have to
watch exactly was yes in my opinion him and Live Nation. Yes, okay, yes,
it is a It is so wild. God, my heart
just still goes out to those victims. But that's not

(18:11):
what this show is about.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
It's not okay, keep going, keep going.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
No, what point were you going to make?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I'll just because in my mind there are so many
moving parts to a festival. There's no way Travis would
have going on. You'll see, fan, But I'm just saying
just logistically, you'll see.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
You gotta watch it. And you know, everybody who listens
and watches this show knows how much we go off
script part. It is part of the we're just like
because we are just like that.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
So then we get the next scene, Miranda Wicks at
Joy's house with Socrates and Sopho staring her in the face.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Which was so cute.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
That's cute, and so in this moment, so Denver and I,
as you all know, last week we had to re
record half or like the last thirty minutes of an
episode that was lost, and in that episode, we talked
about getting ready at people's homes, like you know, when
you go to someone's house, and we had a very
good discussion that never made air about towel etiquette, and

(19:09):
so I kind of want to revisit this really really briefly.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, because Tea.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yes, So here's my thing. I was laughing because there
was a guy that went viral because he was flying
a girl out to see him and she asked, she asked, like,
you know, before I bought this flight, do I need
to bring my own towels? And he was kind of
like offended by that, but I said, sister, I get it,

(19:35):
because I don't know how it goes down in other
cultures or whatever, like and I'm not saying this is
like this, this goes beyond race. But most men that
I know do.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Not have towels, which.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
And if they do, it's like four And I'm not
talking about gay men. I should mention I'm not talking
about gay men I'm talking about. There are men's homes
I've been over and I have not had a towel
to dry off, or if I do, it's damp because
he just dried off with it, like or the same
towel he dries off with is also where you dry
your hands. Uh. Just there's it's it could get pretty

(20:13):
it could be pretty treacherous over some guys houses.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, and all that was news to me because I
was saying, you know, when I have guests come over,
I'll go down to the sword that we're not talking
about right now because you're boycotting and just get a
brand new set of you know, cheap just so they
have towels for themselves. I wash them first, of course.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
But yes, we have this whole discussion because most particularly
most gay men that I know have everything from towels
to like even spare toothbrushes. Should you forget like you
know when I go, yeah, fresh fresh pillow case.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Like justice alert, towelets and all type of ship for people.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
And I should mention this isn't necessarily this hasn't been
necessarily common for me, and this is not every man.
I'm just saying that it is a it's.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Not adictive of the men that you date.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's a good chunk of men that and I know
that this is not a singular experience, like there were
tons of women that, of course weighed in on this
topic that can relate. I'm just laughing because I'm getting
a slide show in my head of like the times
that you know, how you break the fourth wall, like
in Abbot Elementary, like how you just look and be
like really like, there are a few times that I

(21:26):
dealt with that, with dealing with bathrooms. But then for
you even said that, you know, we you even know
gay men who keep their bathrooms kind of nasty.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
So it's like, yeah, yeah, for sure, I mean not nasty, like,
let's not, well, yeah, kind of nasty. I mean men,
we're still man at the end of the day. So like,
our personal bathroom is a bit more of a mess
than the one that people get to use.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
That I get to use, because I've never been in
a dirty bathroom in your house.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Oh no, no, no, it's always both all of them.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, that was this. It kind of
robs the magic because this conversation was better when it
was fresher. But I just wanted to bring that part
up about spending the night. Also let us know if
I'm on an island here, because this is at least
I find and I'm discerning. Okay, I think the men
that I've been with have been, you know, for the

(22:16):
most part, of a pretty nice caliber. But there is
a towel. There's a towel issue.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
So why do you think that is. Do you think
they go and buy just like one towel, yeah, or
one they have a set and they just lose them
over time and think, oh, this is fine or one.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Now. Granted, my towels in my apartment I got sets,
but I also got some mismatched tiles because I have
stolen towels from my mama house.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
So I think I have an entire stack of white
gym towels that I've stolen after the gym. Okay, I
mean I've washed them, bleach them, of course, but they're
just like miscellaneous towels for like little rags, yeah every time.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
So but the point I'm trying to make is I
will always have a towel if a visitor comes over.
But I just I don't know what it is, no
matter how much money they have or status or where
car they drive. Typically there's always a freaking towel issue.
So I thought that was hilarious because sister was flying
out here and she's like, before I head to this airport,
do I need to bring my own towels? Which is crazy.
I would not even ask if I'm flying out I'm

(23:19):
going to be expecting to. Maybe she paid her own flight,
that's not my business. However, different show, different conversations. So
then you know, Joy comes in, Rise and Shine, I
let you sleep in, and Miranda's like, girl, it's seven am.
But in this conversation, Miranda shares that Sima might have
found her an apartment, so she's excited about that and Joy,

(23:42):
and what did you feel about this conversation? Because she
was being kind of cheeky.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I couldn't read her, like, I didn't know if I
was getting that good old British Lisa Amanda pump humor.
She was kind of serious. I really wasn't sure.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
It seemed like everybody ready for Miranda to go.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
And get about. She was like, you hit the three
day limit, yeah, like damn or. And but before that
I thought that they had just been schecking up. I
didn't realize and Miranda.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Had like moved in yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I was like, oh, okay, so she's staying there. And
then I was like, oh shit. You know lesbians they
move fast. They did the lesbians, y'all move fast, And
I was like, well, she's about to just move in here.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
And then well that's the stereotype. The stereotype is after this,
after what the second date, there's a u all involved,
and Miranda even quits. She says, I'm a grown woman
with the sun. I can't become a lesbian cliche and
move in after I say hello, So I'm addressed one.
I can pick up on Joy in that moment. But

(24:42):
but Miranda mentions that she would like for Joy to
meet Brady. But Joy, I noticed in the scene, does
not seem too enthusiastic about that idea, and we will
later find out why.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Right, and I think we should hit a break here.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Let's take a break at a break here. We are
back and we're in our next now with Charlotte walking
about to enter a cancer treatment center when she runs
into someone who I just brought up last week. You
did Von Muffling aka the Hot Topics Queen of matt
Hat because she is messy in a good time and

(25:18):
Charlotte is flustered because Mitzi is coming from visiting someone
and Charlotte's like, oh no, I'm just here to volunteer.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Liar, liar, which is which is funny because again I
went to the doctor today. Yeah, you know, I was
getting you know, just like general lib work. Nothing nothing's
wrong for the listeners, like, nothing's wrong. You know, I
got all my you know, I got a vaccine and
some other stuff. But when I was leaving the I

(25:45):
was walking past a pharmacy and there were I think
two or three people that I thought I recognized to you,
I guess worked there. In my mind, I was just
thinking like, damn, I can't imagine picking up like a
serious medication and like seeing somebody I know and just
like having them all up in my personal bits like
that would be.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Ever thought about that with the pharmacy.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, I mean, you know, people know what medications are
for yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, or they could google Google if they
got a photographic memory like me.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
In our community is small, you know, oh Black La community.
So yeah, I was like, huh, I wonder how many
people's business they know that they probably.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Shouldn't well, they have, didn't They say an oath to
be ethical and shut up about it?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Camp, But what are ethics in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I mean truly, truly.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Truly, what does that even mean?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Don't piss me off, Let's keep going. Also shout out
to Charlotte for being so quick on her toes with
a lie. I would have thought I wouldn't expect this
from her, but she says she was going to volunteer.
Vizzy's like, oh, do you want me to come volunteer
with you? Aren't doing none for the rest of the day.
And that's when Charlotte changes the subject and mentions tea
time at Tiffany's an event. But she assumes that Vizy

(26:57):
has been invited to, which this has happened to me before.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
So many times.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I've been on both ends of this, by the way,
both have to.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I have to.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
And it's like I want to, I want to invite
her to that person's house for for that event, or
I've mentioned something like Girl'm gonna see at the birthday
party and they're like, well, yeah, oh so she having
a party.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
And learn yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
But you know, Bitsy in this in this dialogue, she
says She's gonna follow up with the store manager because
she didn't spend so much at Tiffany's that Tiffany owes
her breakfast lunch, and because she bought the first some
some broach or something right after the Beyonce ad. She
was the first person I love her like, I want

(27:46):
to know what Bitsy is doing, Like that's has been off, Yeah,
that has been off. Also, she would be good care
like I like her as a peripheral character, but she
also I think would bring an energy that sex and
the city fans that would bring them to this show
because everybody complains about how drab it can be, and
Bitsy's just always on one. She always got something going on.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, in this particular episode, which was kind of heavy,
I'm glad she was here.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, this episode was a little tough. I was like wow.
So then we get our next scene. Seema is in
her car and listening to Seth Love songs and it's
she gets a text in the in the car that
kind of she gets a text them. I should mention
Denver that because of time, because Denver and I are
recording this earlier than we normally would. It is Thursday night.

(28:37):
We normally record on Fridays. I did not have time
to watch the episode twice, so I watched and took
notes in real time. So denver step in. If my
narration goes.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
You know, it's lined up with mine.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
So okay, you're perfect. So but in this moment, Seema
is mourning. It appears that she's sad, and she informs Roco,
her driver, that this is their last ride together for
the time being, because she simply cannot afford the service anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
It's a breakup because her company was paying please on
the car. Yeah, and for me, ain't that just like
these flashy business people. You think they're the ones with
all of this money, living this life, doing these great things.
In reality, it's loaned, borrowed, company, car, company credit card.

(29:23):
You know, people aren't living oftentimes the lives you think
they're living.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Now learned I learned that early on and when I
got to la and especially in La Oh. Yes, everything's bagged, borrowed,
or stolen, but for Instagram curation. But to your point,
the car that seems has been whipping around in is
least to her. She asked Rocco to remove her vanity
plates before he turns it in, which is wild to

(29:50):
me because if I saw Vanity plates this Seema NYC,
I'd be like, Sema, got to your point, got it together,
and she owns this car, you know, like he's driving
her car.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
What do you mean she can't afford it? Where is
her money?

Speaker 1 (30:05):
The overhead is too much?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
As the number two broker in New York or whatever
she was, which.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
By the way, in real life, that Ryan Sir hamp
guy is a kind of an asshole from what I've
been reading in the news. You know, he recently made
headlines because he's one of those people who's against the
mayoral candidate in New York City. I shouldn't say against,
but he's like, this guy is going to ruin real
estate for me, and was like making.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
He doesn't mean anymore.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
That's fine, But he also doesn't seem like a good person.
From what I read, he's.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Called a dick. He's kind of a dick. Maybe he
makes the TV.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Makes the TV okay, because I'm like, maybe he won
acting on in just like that.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
That was very much his character. For sure.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
It's a cameo. It wasn't a role.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well what was I saying? Where's there many?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Many?

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Good?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
What was the car two hundred three hundred thousand dollars
You should at least have that in commission off of property.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, new York, you know, especially given how flashy she is.
That's a very good point because she looked depressed.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
But I get saying goodbye to the driver.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yeah, well, maybe she's really trying to to get in office.
That the office that she wants, and she has to
cut every cost because we see that later on she's
gonna be taking a train. But Seema is meeting up
with Miranda and their touring an apartment, much to my
prediction last week. A very nice apartment. Very nice for

(31:31):
New York City real estate, oh for sure. And it's
a whisper listing, which sounds cut, you know. It's not
open to the public yet, Like I love that. And
Miranda is ecstatic about this, this apartment and looking for months.
She's been looking for months with her other broker, and
he can find anything remotely close to this. But then
Miranda hits a snag because the sellers are looking for

(31:54):
one fifty over asking, and Miranda just she doesn't believe
in offer over asking. Real estate is already over priced.
Explain to me what this is.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
So basically, you have the seller who wants to like say, hey,
I want five hundred thousand dollars for this. That's why
this price, Seema, go get me this price. Seema's basically saying, hey,
for you to get this and have it be yours.
The seller wants one hundred and fifty over what they're
asking for it, it's yours.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
And we don't have to That's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Pay a premium to get it now and bypass all
the all the bullshit.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, which that to me is crazy, it is, but
it's it's capitalistic schemes. So something is two dollars. They
come to you and say you can bypass everything if
you give me eight right, right, Well, Seema informs Miranda
that this isn't a mission statement, it's an apartment, but
Miranda refuses, it's on principle she don't want to do that. Also,

(32:52):
I don't know what Miranda's finances look like right now.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Like girl working for a nonprofit.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. And some tell me that
Chay ran through Miranda's bank account like the.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Tom right now, they did sell the house, maybe.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Did sell the brownstone. Yeah. Also in this well, it
comes up later. I just thought about something and I
don't want to get ahead.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I think I know what you're gonna say.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Okay, okay, maybe so we'll keep going. Uh but yees
Sema ends this scene, wh I say while telling Miranda,
I work in real estate, not un real estate. Then
we get our next scene, which is Charlotte and Harry.
They're leaving the cancer treatment center and I thought someone
was going to spot them here, but that did not happen.
That did not happen. But Charlotte is discussing his options

(33:39):
with him, and Harry just seems totally uninterested in this conversation.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, like the g you know, He's like, listen, whatever's
gonna happen, is gonna happen. I'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah. Well, in this scene, we learned that Harry's prostate
cancer is ninety eight percent curable. He just has to
decide between long term vowel dysfunction or long term erectile dysfunction.
Potential potential, thank you, thank you. But Harry just wants

(34:09):
to undergo the surgery and get it over with and
just get it removed instead of going through I guess
rounds of radiation and yeah, then our next scene. We're
at the bakery, the Hot Fella's Bakery, and Giuseeppe is
providing a distraction.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Oh, I was about to say a faggot with the baggette,
but that might be in appropriate.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I'm gonna thank you all for joining us for another
episode of Where just like that until next week. You
can say it, you can say it. I'm not gonna wow.
I'm getting jokes that I cannot say on on this
without being in right.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
In all times.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I'm sure you're not the only one that said that
to themselves.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
No, no, no, but yees.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So we're at this bakery and Carrie, Charlotte, Seema, and
Miranda are there and Charlotte is unraveling. She's unraveling. Harry
calls and I noticed that Carrie does. I love when
s JP does this where there's that her non verbal
acting cues are just so damn good because it's just
like a split second of a look and it's like

(35:24):
Carrie has clocked Charlotte because she knows her friend, and
Charlotte is acting out a character. Because Charlotte came very much.
I just my heart goes out to her. To your
point last week with this is just so unfair to her.
She needs someone to talk to.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Seema.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
At this table at the bakery, Seema presents another apartment
option to Miranda and it's a good deal and in
a nice area in two bedrooms, but no dogs, And
Miranda implies, so that doesn't work for her because Joy
has dogs, ma'am and carry quips about doggie sleepovers. Are

(36:00):
we at that level of intimacy? Because I'm going to
ask you in your dating days, have you ever taken
Ken's Well, I've only known you to No, I'm only
I haven't known you to be a serial dater.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I'm not. I'm a serial monogamist.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, you be linked up I.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
When I'm single, I just don't commit to anything. And
then once I decide I like you, then like you're mine?
You know what I mean? There's no Have you ever.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Brought Kenzo over someone's house for a sleepover?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
No? I want to do that.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, I feel like, who talk about instruction? I feel
like you wouldn't be able to do nothing with Kenzo
with somebody.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
No. No.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
But what I found peculiar in this scene is that
Miranda reveals that Joy is meeting Brady on Friday, and
I was very surprised to learn that Carrie hasn't even
met Joy yet.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
What did you think about that? Well, we got to
back up, because why is Miranda concerned about a woman
she's dating, and why is she letting that effect where
she's going to live as a roll a woman? That's
number one.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Denver always comes in with the good sense.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
That's number one, Like, what do you mean? Because when
you're in love and then she hasn't even met your kid,
So that's another hurdle you need to overcome.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
And when you in love, you start planning your whole
life out in it virtinly.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
And if you're really going to do it, I'm sure
there's a difference between a dog living there and a
dog visiting. I'm sure. I really can't do much about that,
and they do that about it, get them registered to
service animals like everybody else.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
And also it doesn't appear that Sapho and Socrates are
noisy dogs. I heard the bark not once. I mean
they whined, but I don't think you can hear that
through the walls. But I never know what this infrastructure.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
And then what do you try and get a fine
like I'm sure she'll pay it. If it's that deep. Yeah,
you say she's gonna want to bring them over there,
like you're trying to move this girl in. Yeah. Interesting,
that's not energy drinking some long Gussie.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
I'm sipping coffee and I'm like, yeah, I had a
sandwich earlier. I'm having coffee. It's a whole lot going
on in this throat.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
It's evening, baby, it's eating. So then again it's it's
it's you went out.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
It's a whole lot going on in this gastro intestinal system. Okay,
So I had a delicious sandwich earlier, loaded with oil
and vinegar, and now I'm having coffee. Oh but I'm
curious to know what are your thoughts on Joy hasn't
even met Carrie hasn't even met Joy yet. I find
that interesting.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised Miranda hasn't met Joy yet.
Oh okay, well, I mean.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Also in this scene, Patience appears to be running a
little bit thin with Miranda, and she tells Miranda, look,
you haven until Friday evening to decide about this apartment.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Nothing to get drop to your point. The only reason
I find it's peculiar that Carrie wouldn't have met what's
her name, Joy Joy is because Joy has been in
Carrie's house.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Oh yeah, I didn't think about that. I did not
think about that. Yeah, that's a little.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
That was during her her wild Country meme. And see
how quickly that went away. Miranda was freaking out and
it's already no one's talking about it. So now we're
in the editing bay with LTW and Marion and we're working. Yes,
And while we're in this editing bay working, Chauncey, who's

(39:34):
Herbert's campaign manager, is blowing ltw's phone up. He's been
harassing her all week. I should note that she said
all week because the call that's important pertains to the
specific day. But Chauncey has been harassing her all week.
LTW silence is her phone and continues working. I don't
blame her. I do not follow her in this moment.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Me neither, because it was that deep. Somebody else should
have been doing the calling.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, and if if Herbert's campaign manager is calling me,
I'm assuming that it has something to do with Herbert
and his campaign. And I'm central. I gotta choose, I
gotta put me first. Lucius I gotta put me first.
I'm working on my my documentary. That's eight years of
nearly a decade in the making. Stop calling me. And

(40:22):
so then next scene we get eight and arriving at
the Grammercy House and he picks up a rock, throws
it at the window, the vintage French, vintage window, and
breaks it. He was trying to be romantic and recreate
their quote unquote thing. I took this whole scene as symbolism.
What's our word, ominous? It is a hominist symbolism. Carrie

(40:47):
is what I have been noticing this season. Denver is Carrie.
This is probably the spiciest, the most consistently spicy I've
seen Carrie Bradshaw.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Oh the mouth is the patients is short? Yes, this
season this season.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah, like this, this is the spiciest version of Carrie
Bradshaw I've encountered in the movies and the show. Like
she is just fed up. Possibly, I mean she is
eating her yogurt. Possibly, but car happens. Carrie says that
you know the windows. She notes that the windows survived

(41:25):
the Mexican War, the Civil War, the Draft Riots of
sixty three. That's eighteen sixty three, not nineteen sixty three
and Hurricane Sandy. That's how durable those windows are. You
see how fragile they were with Aiden being a big
do fist. And that's when Aiden almost cuts his finger,
which I have in all caps. The broom was right there.

(41:46):
Why are you on your hands and knees picking up
glass and the broom is right behind you?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Maybe he was trying to get the big pieces first. No, No,
that don't make sense.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
That don't make sense to me. Why are you on
your hands and your knees picking up glass with your
bare hands?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
He's a man.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
The big pieces the big in theory, the big pieces
are what you pick up with your hands. He down
there with the little, small, little.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
You know, maybe it was like take number seven, and
so he'd already picked them all up, just like running
through it.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Maybe so maybe it was a long night. It's a
long night. And so he notices that Carrie is barefoot
and asks why she isn't wearing shoes, and that's when
Carrie brings up Duncan in the noise. She's being considerate,
which also I was like, Carrie, why are you where?
You just had on tasteful slippers last last episode? Why
are you fully barefoot? Do you walk around barefoot in

(42:41):
your house?

Speaker 2 (42:42):
No? Because I don't and they tear my feet up.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
So no, I have hard hardwood floors in my apartment.
I do not want I have house shoes. I do
not walk around barefoot at all. And yes, I sweep
in mop It's just not my thing.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
And my shoes stay at the door. My outside shoes
stay up the door. As we mentioned last week, I
just don't It's not my thing. Well. Aiden says he'll
have the glass replaced, but Carrie insists that it cannot
be replaced. It is antique glass, delicate and wavy, made
a little rainbow the way the sun hit it, making

(43:18):
Aiden feel even worse. Aiden says he finally is just like,
why is nothing going my way? And in that moment
Carrie is like, baby, what's going on? And Aiden reveals
go ahead, no, go ahead. Aiden reveals that Wyatt would
not get on the plane. They got to the airport,
all the way to the airport, and he changed his
mind at the gate, and then he describes an argument

(43:41):
that him and Kathy got into on the way back
from the airport.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Now they forced him on the plane. So I think
when he was first saying it, I thought he just
didn't go and they made often arrangements. Right, but he
got on the plane.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
So oh he did get on?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, right, didn't he get on? Didn't they like force
him on? And then Kathy was mad about it?

Speaker 1 (44:01):
No, No, they turned around. He went home with the family. Yeah,
with the with the family.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
He went home. You know, when you're taking notes and
watching this all, you got to watch it twice.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I know, and you know the people will correct us,
because I noticed in one of the YouTube comments someone
did the time code and was like, yeah, Miranda's in
an airbnb. Because sometimes we do get turned around.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
We correct these nuts, we depend on.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
How depend on them?

Speaker 7 (44:25):
Excuse me, I depend on them to correct Denver you're
dealing with the capricorn and aries, honey, true, correct these nuts,
you can correct.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
But I was saying before that I don't blame Carrie
for being so so you can tell she was pissed
about that glass, like she was genuinely.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Like rightfully so annoyed, because why would you do that?
Why would your big grown ass do that?

Speaker 2 (44:54):
You know, it was stupid?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
It was stupid. It was stupid, the whole train of
thought being corrected. Sorry, it'll come back.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
And well carry in this scene. The scene wraps with
Carrie saying, please be careful and Aiden says, too late
for that.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Symbolism, symbolism, symbolism, all right. Then our next scene, we're
back in the editing bay with LTW and Marion. And
you know, LTW, I related to this scene because there
is nothing better than working with someone who like the

(45:34):
energy you are just Cart's sick. You can get my
vision and you know how to execute it. Like, there
is nothing better than working with someone like this. So
LTW is getting excited because he is capturing her vision
and she says, it's like you're inside my head.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
You're so intuitive, you're I wrote that down. I know
what she meant.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
She's feeling it. And then and this is a very
sharp moment, because I feel like something like this would
happen to me. Really, can I get that in writing?
Because my wife thinks I'm clueless?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Face cracked face.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
So we find out that Marian is married, but I said,
why isn't he wearing a ring as an indicator? I
didn't get a chance to see if he was. But
I don't feel like this would be a discussion because.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
I've noticed that. It's something about I've noticed in my
adult life, particularly in Los Angeles, there are so many
married men who do not wear rings. And that is
so frustrating because I am a flirt.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
And well, you know, the thinking about LA and I think,
even to Marion's point, you kind of have to work
with what you got and LA, people do flirt their
way through a lot of business.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
That's just you know, and maybe it maybe it happens everywhere.
I just live here, but I think that from Marian,
from Marion standpoint, I think that's why I think you
can get he can get further if people assume.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
He said, yes, I have certainly had men charm me.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
That's why a lot of even a lot of influencers,
content creators, they don't show their significant other's there because
their audience, their audience just gets mad. So my friend
I was.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Just saying, my friend I was just looking at the
TikTok she made where she says she hadn't followed a
guy because she thought he was cute and he was like, y'all,
I really need to get to Tim K, and he's
acting as if he's single. But then when he reached
Tim K, he revealed like his white girlfriend and and
then they flipped it into a uh and that's exactly
what she did. And they flipped it into a couple's
page and they're like making money now and stuff. So

(47:38):
he built his following under the illusion that he's single
and available and posting all his you know, pictures, and
I was I was just cracking up because there are
some some guys. I'm like, as long as I don't
see a child, a baby bump or one and there,
and sometimes they they pop out, you know, you're following
a guy and it's like.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Damn, you know right, I don't give your partnered. But
for me, you know, all my first follows, if I
see a woman, a girlfriend, a wife, a baby, maama
pop up and said, unfollow, I'm done. Yeah, the fantasy.
I don't care anymore. Like it's just again, my day's
a blessing after strapping are so over? Yeah, sorry, Well,

(48:19):
I have.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
The in fairness, I have the reaction if I see
a boyfriend. Mm hmmmmm. I have the reaction if I
see a girlfriend too, but if I see with a boyfriend,
I I am like.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
The damn m hm damn mm mmmm.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Nevertheless, so he says, we find out that he's married,
and then LTW kind of gag. She cools off, and
then there's a two second courtesy knock at the door
before it swings open, and standing at the door is Herbert.
And I felt that when Herbert opened the door and
lt W immediately stood up, that looks suspicious.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Jump.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
It looked very suspicious. But in this moment she introduces,
she's tripping over her words. She introduces Marian is married,
which is hilarious, and Herbert says that he's been trying
to reach her, but her phone's been off. Now I
didn't think this was right because Herbert, you hadn't been
trying to reach her, because Chaunceyd been the one trying
to reach her, would have been different.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
That's what I was thinking. If your wife's dad, well
we're about to find out that, yes, But if that's
the severity of the situation, come on, you pick up
that phone.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Come on, that's my thing. We would have been having
a different discussion. If it had been Herbert blowing up
her phone, she would have answered, of course she's going
to dismiss your campaign manager. I would have thought something
happened to Herbert. That's what a campaign manager calling he
But Herbert is noticeably irritated, and he reveals that Lisa's
father had a stroke, and she immediately is like, oh, okay,

(49:56):
well what hospital is he at, like so she can
go visit him, and Herbert's like, not so fast, because
he's gone. He died.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
And that sucks.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Yeah, it sucks. It's really tough, really tough.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I don't even know. I mean, you're obviously gonna feel guilty.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah, and we're gonna we're gonna get to that because
she's working through this. And so our next scene is
LTW she gets home and when she gets home, she
calls Charlotte. I have been loving the scenes that LTW
and Charlotte share. I've been loving them because to me,
they've been such beautiful illustrations of true friendship and true sisterhood.

(50:36):
Because in this scene I have, you know, life comes
at you fast sometimes and LTW it reveals to Charlotte
that her father died, and LTW starts blaming herself, blaming
herself for not being there, and her phone being on
silent mode and Charlotte talked her off the ledge, which
I thought was interesting. Shows that Charlotte has some duality,

(50:58):
as we know. And that's what I have in my
notes about loving their friendship because I know some of
my most beautiful moments, I know you've even done this
for me, Denver is in moments of like not feeling
the best. I love a perspective shift. I love when
something really lands and it's like I never thought about
it that well, you know. I think that's a true
measure of like, I'm listening. What you say means something

(51:22):
to me, what you say matters to me, and I'm
here to hold it right. I'm here to hold space
for how you feel. But also this is how I'm
viewing it. I think that's helpful and indicative of healthy friendship.
So I love that, and oh I have and he
died twice. But then LTW, oh my notes skipped. But

(51:44):
then LTW stops crying because she gets an email, and
this email is from Lucille inviting her to her own
father's funeral.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Now we were getting.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I really thought about this because my father is remarried.
My father has a wife, and if something happens to him.
I might get an email like that, We're not that dysfunctional,
but I would not be surprised, Like, you know, it
is what it is.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
He needs to say. It set lt W off.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
I think it would set anyone off that's not.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
It's been hours. How did you put this out already?
Would you call it? Would you call the family?

Speaker 1 (52:38):
That would be more tactful, that would that would be
definitely more tasteful.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
But it was an also to a funeral.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
That's also crazy, also very it's very modern as well.
I'm surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if I got a
part of.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
What I'm just I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I'm just saying, I'm just.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
A R s v P list for you know, going
me plus a one and the text reminders, don't forget tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
We've seen stranger things Denver, we have seen stranger things.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Oh my god, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Well lt W, as I mentioned, she got that email.
Then we get our next scene and Charlotte break you
want to take a break, Okay.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
All right, and we're back. We're going to pick up
right where we left off. I have calmed down from
that lively part of discussion and where are we were
with Charlotte Harry in the living room.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yes, yes, Charlotte and Harry are at home, and Harry
is focused on the game again, disinterested. Charlotte's feeling very
woo woo woo because she just got off the phone
with lt W and she's interrupting his baseball game. Honey,
that is a game, and this is.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Why he said if I'm dying, I'm going to finish
this game.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I'm going to finish this home run and in But
also in my notes in this scene, I have this
is why Charlotte needs an outlet. She's going to crack.
I literally have that in my notes. Yeah, I literally
have that in my notes.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yeah. Awome.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
So then we get when we jump to the next
scene and Aiden is researching warehouses to get where to
where to find a French windows, vintage French windows, and
he wants to take a road trip to Pennsylvania to
go get the glass, and Carrie thinks he's being ridiculous.
Plus she got something to do now.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
As a true Aiden hater, I thought this was actually
really sweet.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
No, this was very sweet, like.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
The romantic in me. It was like all it was
something I would do. Yeah, he's like, he's really dedicated
to fix against fuck up. Now I didn't realize. I
didn't realize at the time, but why he was trying
so hard to fix it.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
But there's just always.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Quiet and we'll talk about it when we get to
that part. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was really sweet. It
just it touched my heart.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
I mean, it is a it is a sweet gesture,
but it it it ultimately was more so for him
than it was for her.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah, to absolve him of that guilt. The window, uh huh.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
So she tells him to come to bed, and then
we get The next morning, she wakes up to a
post it note on the mirror from Aiden saying that
he's gone to Scranton, be back soon.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
My first hot damn, not another post it note.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Not another post it note. I thought about that. I
also thought about isn't Scranton where the Office takes place,
you know, the Steve Carrell Show, And isn't Joe Biden
Joe Biden from Scranton.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Don't ask me these things.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
I can't remember. I just know that that. Or is
he from Delaware? I can't remember. But what I also
have in my notes is a very interesting song is
playing in the background. Were you paying attention to the
lyrics of the song playing in the background. No, oh, Denver,
you have to go back and rewatch, you can come
forward fast forward to that scene. There's a very interesting song.
The lyrics playing in the background are very comminous the word.

(56:13):
So then we get our next scene. Carrie and Charlotte
arrive at Tiffany's looking fat by the way, stunning, and
we learn in this scene that time, at significant time
has passed. It's been two months since Carrie and Aiden
have seen each other, so significant time has passed. Charlotte
in they're talking about you know, everything's so fragile. She's

(56:34):
getting emotional and Carrie's like, are even emotional about my glass?

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Girl?

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Like, because of course Carrie has no idea what's going on.
Char's still bottling everything up. And then that's when we
get Bitsy walking into frame. At first, I was like,
Wendy she was giving she was giving Wendy show at
Wendy Show, which, by the way, did you see the
yeah something still No, she's not the same, but she

(56:59):
looks She looked good to me. She looked healthy.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
You know what I will say. She looked happy, and
I think that is the most important part.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yes, happy in this season, and this iteration happiness is
the most important part. I agree, Yes. But Bitsy arrives,
she greets the ladies. Charlotte mentions that in this meeting,
she mentions the towns and boats party coming up. Bitsy.
By the way, Bitsy is anti evite because it was

(57:31):
in her spam. She turns out she was invited allegedly.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
I don't know if I believe her.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
I don't know if I believe her.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
I don't think I believe her.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
She called up there and went off on that yeah
but yeah, Charlotte did another Freudian slip.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Her mind's all over the place. She cannot keep it together.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
She can't, she can't. And then we get perhaps my favorite,
the scene that puts.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I know you following.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
LTW arrives at a diner in New Jersey to greet
Lucille played by the legendary iconic mother of Black Hollywood,
Kim Locke, Missouri native Jennifer Lewis, who.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Now I know you stand so, I don't know if
you see, but they're just like that Max Instagram. They
do like a blurry picture of the guest in their
stories and like, oh, who's this guest? And they do
the little box like type if you know it, yeah,
you're like thirty minutes or so, And I, of course
I taped it because I just wanted to make sure
that somebody did because they hadn't posted the answer yet.
Then maybe like an hour later, they actually posted my

(58:39):
sticker as a reply. You know the legend Jennifer Lewis,
And I'm thinking, hmmm, is it because the white folks
didn't know who that was?

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Well, you want to hear a funny quick story. Yeah,
Back in my after buzz days when I was on
after Bus TV, once upon a time, Jennifer Lewis showed
up because she was doing an interview I believe for
Blackish at the time. And the people, the non black
people that worked at that station. This was before like

(59:09):
an hour before I got there. Jennifer was just standing
in the doorway. They buzzed her in and she was
just standing in the doorway. No one greeted her, no
one offered her water or a snack. They had no
idea who she was. And I was pissed when I
found this out, because how dare you? How dare you
are you, has everybody.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Lost their minds? That's crazy crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Oh that's a story I'll never forget. That was actually
about a decade ago, twenty fifteen Blackish era, Like when
Blackish first premiered, she stopped by for an interview and
was totally disregarded, and I'm like things.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Like wet, Well, you know, we have a society, have
to do better.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
We do. But it also it speaks and I'm not
going to grandstand, but it speaks to a point that
I always make as a working black journalist who's in
and of entertainment, we are required to know. You know,
Felicity Huh and Nea Long and a lot of my
white counterparts don't need to know who Na Along is.
I was at a conference last year and someone was

(01:00:07):
telling a story about something that happened with Sana Lathan
and someone said, who's that? Oh yes, yea ya ya
ya ya yea yea yeah yah yeah yeah. So it's
it's very infuriating, and I respect our black legends, and
I Jennifer Lewis is such an icon. She's always a
good time, she's hilarious with one end. Don't don't mess
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I've made that mistaken you've corrected me several times. So
when I put in the box, I made sure it
had one one end.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
And you know, I went to her star on the
Walk of Fame when she when she got her star
on the Walk of Fame on Jackie Washington Day, which
is coming up July fifteenth. If you know, you know,
we can talk about it, if you know, you know
those listening. So yeah, so we meet Lucille, and I
have in my notes anytime Jennifer Lewis is on screen,
there's magic because truly, I wonder how much of this

(01:00:55):
character was improv because she's always doing her own thing. Yeah,
her Lucille, I felt what was most authentic to this Newark,
New Jersey character was her pointing out that Michael corus
Perse fifty million.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Times she was not going to let you walk out
of there without knowing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
I like your purse.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
I like your purse, And so I was cracking up.
Of course, in this scene, comedic genius. You know, lou
Belle comes over to greet the women. She of course
knows LTW because I guess that's a diner that her
father and her would would go to, and she takes
their orders and as she's taking their orders. Lou Belle says,
I'm sorry for your loss, and Lucille goes there, thank you.

(01:01:41):
And I noticed that LTW just shot her daggers like
she she hates this woman.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Of course, my father life still, she said, thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
What the best years of her life?

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Do you watch still?

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Yes? I do, Yes, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
In my mind, she was screaming as I tell my
biological thought, that's my father.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Another show.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Did you did you watch Atlanta Housewives this season?

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I did?

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Did you like the finale?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I loved it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
No, I loved it only because Portia had me laughing
in her confessional scenes. She had me laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I have so many that I could do an entire
hour long show just on how fucked up this season
has been.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Now, this season was not the best, but Angela is
my work.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
And from how we got here Angela, it was a
lot about how the season came to be that we
did not oh, I know from lovely Scott dot com.
But this season was a ship show and it was
doing from the start. And we look forward to seeing
Ninni back next next season.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
You know what, not to veer too far off track, Nini,
I know she dropped out of Traders this season, but
to me, that was the master plan. That was my
master plan. Nini has to do Traders first because we
need someone to piss her off and wake up nay Nee.
Nini's too much of Karesha right now. I don't don't
think she'll be a good addition because it's not the
Nanny that we know in love.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
She's too no, no, no, we're definitely getting that I'm
too good for this. Yeah, I don't think she really
needs to come back, but I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Think that I think she's gonna let us down. Yeah,
we need memorable Nini.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Yeah, maybe it'll show up to play ball. I mean,
I don't think that turning down Traders for the pay
was a good look, you know, especially when you have
a reputation of being difficult and all.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
You got going is the Ninny Leaks show on YouTube,
which is also difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Bill. Bill's a due Yeah, and you know the network
they need. Everybody's gonna have to have a come to
Jesus moment. They need each other at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
So well you heard it here first, y'all. But in
this scene also, I noticed that this is a confrontation
for understanding, right so Lisa confronts Lucille about this email,
and Lucille goes into this entire monologue about don't bother
Lisa with this, how she spent so much time with

(01:04:14):
her with with Lisa's father, and every time Lisa's name
was brought up, her father was like, you know, Lisa's
too busy or uninterested. Don't bother Lisa with this. So naturally,
when he passed away, that's where her mind was pre programmed,
don't bother Lisa with this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
And that I felt that was fair.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Yeah, I thought it was too. I thought it was
too and uh LTW asked for hot sauce, and of
course Lucille says, Lubelle, don't bother I got hot sauce
in Michael coleas she pulls up that bottle of crystals.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
The crystal, Yes, one of my one of my favorites,
have a lot of We do love crystal. That is
my top universal hot sauce. Yeah, love we talk. You
have different hot sauces for different things, friend, hot sauces
for universal.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
So then we get our next scene. Joy and Miranda
are waiting to meet Brady, and Joy drops a bomb
in her lap as they're waiting. She admits that she
doesn't always jel with people kids, and she refers to
Miranda as her girlfriend in the same breath, and that's
all Miranda really hears.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Right, Well, I mean, the funniest thing to me was like, duh, gir,
you didn't have to say that. I think we got
that you're not the mother child type.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
But Miranda might not have gotten that. Us as the
viewer got it. But Miranda is so in the clouds
she might not have gotten that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
I thought it was, you know, an interesting, something interesting
to say, just as it's coming, like, you know, like
I never date women with children, and it's like but
also all Miranda.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Heard was you know you are my girlfriend lesbian. It's
moving fast.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
That's when Brady shows up and he totally disarms Joy
because he's such a charmer. He loves Sapho and Socrates.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
You seems so likable. Yeah, season well.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
He's he's not with that girl anymore. It seems like
he has a bit more emotional regulation. His parents are
finally not together, like that was also adding to the ankst.
And he seems stable, you know, he's working in that kitchen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Very well adjusted.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Now what I noticed,
what I was going to bring up earlier is Brady
of course got his name from his father's last name.
So then what is Brady's last name?

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
So that's your time earlier, and I was like, I
think you're gonna say, I was very confused.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Is his name Brady Hobbes? He took Miranda's last name
because it it can't be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Brady Brady because she was going to face him alone
at first.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Brady Hobbs, you go back and rewatch, Yeah,
I was confused.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
He literally has Can you can correct me on that
listeners if you know not that that I gave you permission.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
To, Yeah, because I remember there was conflict because Charlotte
was struggling to get pregnant and Miranda wasn't even interested
in Nodayne baby, and Miranda ended up getting pregnant and
Charlotte had utility issues in that kind of cause. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So he has a Beyonce Noles situation, taking a surname
and making it a first name. So then, like I said,

(01:07:18):
Brady's a charmer. I liked that scene. But then we're
back in the diner with LTW and Lucille, and that's
when LTW concedes and gives Lucille her blessing to host
not the funeral, but the home going with something simple
and respectable, respectful, nothing too theatrical, which come on, now,

(01:07:40):
come on now. I was just laughing because there was
so much drama at this table, and the Steel's like
all I have is the theater and the man I
spent twenty years, Like, I'm like, girl, are you kidding me?
You think that this lady is not going.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
To give you while dragging the kelpie right dragging it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Oh my god. It was such a good scene. And
in this diner, I was wondering if it was the
same one. It doesn't appear to be, but at first
I was like, is this the same diner from Poe's
where pray Tell and his clip used to meet up,
because it kind of looked the same to me. No,
it's not, it's not, but it kind of looked at
first similar to me, And so yeah, I just anything
Jennifer Lewis is in, I am likely going to watch

(01:08:22):
And so that was a nice little surprise. But then
Carrie our next scene, Carrie gets back home and Aiden
is in the living room, with doors. I was alarmed.
I was concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I thought, oh shit, did he make it worse? Literally thought,
did he make it worse?

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I thought the same thing. He's in there with lots
of doors. He doesn't think the window can be fixed,
mind you. In this scene, I thought that he was
going to surprise her like it was. You know, the
wood was up there and he was gonna take it
down and surprise her and reveal this fixed window. But
he's kind of obsessing. He was kind of scaring me
all that pacing, and he's obsessing about ruining the rainbow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
My notes. He's being fucking weird. That's just what it says.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
So then Carrie calms his nerves as only Carrie can,
and she they go in for a kiss, and as
they pull away, not even point two seconds from them
pulling away, Aiden blurts out, I slept.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
With Kathy and we got to stop because I rejoice, rejoice,
I is twitching. I was like, thank you, Yes, he
fucked up. He's out of here, like finally, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
I thought this was going to be the end too.
But I was like, spy, spicy Carry. Spicy Carry had
hot sauce in her bag in this scene, because he
reveals that this happened after the airport and Kathy was upset,
and he guesses that they were just trying to comfort
each other and it just happened, which, oh my god,

(01:09:57):
I if I never hear those words again, and as
it pertains to infidelity, I will not miss it. It
just happened just drives me crazy. It drives me crazy
because it did not just happen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Come on, I've I've gotten that a couple of times
in my in my years.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
He also notes that that it is a mistake. He
knows that it's astreak and and Carrie seems a little
disappointed and in shock, but she does not react as
old Carrie would react, as Carrie says, I understand how
that could happen, and Aiden apologizes he got his hand

(01:10:38):
on his head. He's like, I'm just I'm so sorry,
you know, for betraying you. And Carrie seems confused because
she said, what what what do you mean? Denver? I
was screaming at the top of my lungs in this
scene because I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Was like, actually, carry bitch, you are waiting up, Carrie.
I was disappointed. My initial reaction was disappointed. I was
like girl, you can't you can't understand this. But then
when she kept going, I was like, well, because he said.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
He said that we agreed to wait for each other
and I slept with someone else, and Carrie says I
didn't agree.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
I didn't agree to that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Denver. I was screaming at the top of I love
so you are away, Carrie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
So you're not a sleep at the wheel as we thought.
Maybe she does have some sense.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
I love this Carrie, this version of her, this iteration
where she is in her life, like the delivery is
so flawless. It's like Doctor Jekyll and mister High In fact,
yes his fans, yeah, Like I agree to that. And
so she says that she agreed that she'll be there
waiting for him until he can come to her. But

(01:11:53):
you expected me to not sleep with anyone else for
five years? Are we silly?

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Or are we?

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Are we comedians up in the here? Are you crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Dumb ass? Needed a dumb ass At the end of
that sentence, For real.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
I lived because Carrie, go out there and live your life.
Get you a piece, because I think that that's what
we all assumed because of Carrie Brashaw.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I mean words do mean things they do. And when
I almost been somewhere completely left, I'm not going to
do that because we'll be here for another thirty minutes.
But when she said we didn't, No, I'm flustered in
my head now thinking about something I should not be thinking. No, no, no, no, no,

(01:12:39):
no no no no. Does it hit I think? I think?
I think, well, I didn't agree to that sums it up.
Not for me, No, not not this instance.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Is it for me?

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
No that it wasn't. I was about to go into
a story. Okay, it wasn't my business to tell, so
I had to tie it up real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Words mean things.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Words mean things.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
This is why I always quote ts Madison's show What
is it? Communication is our partner, Clarity is our friend.
If you don't do anything in this life, you better
get Clea, would say, get Clea. Okay, you gotta get clear.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
So that's what you agreed to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Yeah, and I have in my notes in all caps.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Woo.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
I'm screaming because I was. I paused it. I was
like like I was when I tell you live being
for this version of Carrie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Well. I think what continued to get me was her
realization in the moment basically saying like, I can't believe
we haven't had this conversation until now something.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
So yeah, that that ends up that So that comes
right after that, so she she's oh, also spicy. Note
in this scene she says, that's what you agreed to
and you couldn't even do it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
That took me back to the scene with Miranda last
week with like, I keep my heels on because I
can walk in them. Like I'm like, i don't know
what miss Bradshaw is going through, but I'm standing. I
am standing. So Carrie is having a hard time trying
to figure out why they haven't had this discussion, which
would which would also irritate me as well. That would

(01:14:13):
irritate me as well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
That's something that should have been laid out day one
for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
But you have to get clear because they have the discussion,
but they both had two different interpretations of.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
What what weight mean exactly exactly was going to put
your life on hold for him, and Carrie thought, I'll
be here when you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Get here, which is so crazy to me because his
male ego also can't hap. I don't think he'll be
able to handle Carrie being like, is you sick? Like
are you crazy, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
I didn't think that until we got to the end
of this episode, and we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Well, jump to them, cut to them having sex, because
that's how that scene ends. It cuts to them in
the bed and they're, you know, on board and yeah,
so now it's time for Ltw's father is homegoing and
it's it appears to be simple and sophisticated. I said,
I love how Lucille is committed to her Michael Core's

(01:15:08):
back because she got a different one in this scene
and she she makes sure to drop that label and
racked with the logo MK. So also in this scene,
I was so annoyed because Herbert's mama is so annoying
and insensitive. Walks up in the midst of Ltw's grief

(01:15:30):
and can you seat yourself so we can begin proceedings
a funeral in the theater, Lord have mercy, Like she's
just lady.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
It's something you think, but you don't say to somebody
who just lost their father.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
She reminds me so much of one of my aunts.
An aesthetic and seriously an attitude, an aesthetic in the
whole look the whole, like she reminds me so much
of one of my aunts listen. I don't know if
she does shout out to shout out, she'll know who
I'm talking about because I'll just say a butter dish.
She is someone who if any of my family's listening,

(01:16:04):
they'll no butter dish because she don't play about the
butter dish. So that's a little jos cell lore for
you all. So, so where are we at?

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Where are we at?

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
So then the funeral gets there after taking the train.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
She's limping, SEMA's limping because those shoes are not made
for the train. And then we see Carrie and Aiden
showing up and Aiden's pants are flooding. Mm hmm, because.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
No, go ahead, no, I'm saying this. He didn't pact
funeral clothes. And the store that thought was and tall
has been turned into something else.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Which is also just I feel like any big city
goes through this. Sometimes you go to your favorite restaurant
and it's like, what happened to you know? You go
six months without going to place, and it can be
a totally different.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Yeah, I see it every day.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Yeah yeah. Yeah. So then we get that as they're
taking their seats, Miranda takes she turns to Sema and
she agrees to take the first the first apartment that
we saw the Sema toured, and she said, it'll bring
me more joy like Miranda's fully in it. I love cheesy,
look cute, but even cheesiers. As they take their seats,

(01:17:20):
Aiden splits his pants and he says, now his big
and tall ist is showing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Okay girl, and then in all.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Caps, I have Then the show begins. Lucille kicks it
off with a song, and then it it's a jump cut.
I think it's like for colored girls performing. I'm not
sure what what pizza is going on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I don't know the Rainbow Coalition, but the part and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
It was the Post Office Theater Division that was performing,
but the part that sent me because this was also
a very sharp thing. If you've ever been to karaoke
with me, then you would know. Lucille pulls a mic
out of her purse. She's emcee from the microphone out
of her Michael cores and she's mceing and she introduced.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
I wasn't I wasn't mad at so I'm not to
cut you off. I wasn't mad at her MCing from
the seat.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
It would have been too much. It would have been
too much, so uh. She introduces lt W, who who
has three minutes? You know? And as LTW takes the stage,
her mother in law says, you know, she asks her
grandson to switch seats with her because Lucille, you know.
She calls her Coretta Scott King styled by Liberaci wasn't wrong,

(01:18:38):
was not was not And LTW gets up there to
do her remarks about her father and she becomes completely overwhelmed,
and Herbert steps in and takes over. And I love
this scene because it speaks to their men like this
is teamwork, this is partnership, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
I mean, I think he may not always be there
when she wants him to be, but I think that
he knows how to be there in the important moments,
right when you're looking at the totality of a marriage.
Sometimes that can be more important. It depending on what
type of person you are.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Right right, And he doesn't always show up in the
ways in which she'd probably prefer for him to, But
moments like this means something.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
You know, you still should have been the one to
call though, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
I totally agree. On the way out, Ltw's mother in
law offers her some comforting words about you know, loved
ones passing on and how I was there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
I thought that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
I thought it was a beautiful sentiment. Yeah, about like,
if you're not there, it's because they didn't want you
to be there, they want you to remember them as is,
you know, and not see them in there whatever kind
of state they're in or whatever, which I know is
incredibly painful. I think we've all lost loved ones in
various forms.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
And that's why I don't do funerals. Funeral in god
over a decade. Really, Yeah, I just like I don't
like it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
I know, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
I loved ones. I like my memories of them. I
don't want memories of them, you know, in a casket
or being loaded to the ground. Yeah, I just I
personally just don't want those.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Yeah, I get it. I I'm someone I will.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
I was just saying I will go to the funeral.
I there are certain parts that I will skip, depending
on how I'm feeling, like I don't need to view
the body and I don't need to go to the burial,
but the celebration of life, the songs, and I like
how people have been kind of reclaiming and reframing homegoings
and not making them this drab, you know, hyper emotional.

(01:20:45):
I always think like what would this person want me
to do? Like that's when I'm grieving. I give myself
the chance to grieve. But it's also like I know
my friend. I lost a friend in the pandemic, for example,
like one of my best friends who I came of
age with, who was very instrumental in my teenage years,
and I lost them. I think it was election day
of twenty twenty, which was already just crazy, and I

(01:21:09):
still think about them, like almost on a weekly basis,
and I'm whenever I get said, I'm like, I know
he probably laughing at me, like you know, like it's
it's just I reframe things like that because I know him,
and you know he would won't be falling out and
acting crazy and stuff. So but I still hold space
for my feelings. And grief is nonlinear and it's tough
to talk about, you know, it's tough to deal with

(01:21:31):
and defined. It's tough to define too, because everyone operates
from different viewpoints and with different experiences.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Yeah, I agree. I mean I can't say that I
won't ever go to funeral, but just it's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Just not your thing. It's just not yeah. Yeah, Well
from there, we're done with the funeral, and I should
mention that Carrie and Aiden are the last to leave
the theater because you know, Aiden's pants have split open.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Overall, I think the funeral idea was cute. Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
I liked the idea for for him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Because that's the celebration of life, right like, That's what I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Loved that it was true to him. It was true
to him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
It was true to him. It's his theater. It was great,
and Lucille took a load off of ltw's back. LTW
got a lot going on right now, so Lucille really
did her a favor by taking care of all of
those arrangements. And so now we're back at uh Carrie
and Aiden. Well, y'all say Carrie and Aiden's house because

(01:22:26):
ha ha ha ha ha, we're back at the Gramercy
house and Aiden is kissing Carry goodbye, and he says,
you know, I'm about to go back home, and Carry says,
you are home. I mean it's sappy and cute because
Carrie is still they're fighting to hold on to this thing.
And then we see Aiden in the kitchen, pouring him

(01:22:47):
a cup of coffee, and Lord have mercy. Duncan shows up,
mm hmm. And Duncan arrives and leads a chapter of
his book for Carrie to read. He leaves it with Aiden,
so Aiden gets a chance to meet this Duncan. They're
around the same height, you know, similar bits.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
You noticed Aiden kind of gave him a funny look
as he was coming up the stairs.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Oh yes, yes, yes, it's very reminiscent of Herbert looking
at Marion's kind of like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
This is the writer.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Because honestly, if someone tells you that, you know there was.
We all have preconceived notions of what people look like
or what they make like. You know, if Carrie's like, oh,
I'm with Duncan, the writer who lives under me, you
might have a certain yeah, and he's British, you might
have a certain idea. And then this tall drink of
water shows up and it's like, oh oh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
But but he didn't seem bothered, though, he seemed intrigued
almost yeah to me, yeah, And I.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Was wondering what he was going to do with the
chapter of his book. But I was like, he's forced,
he can't do anything with it because Duncan. Let's say
he threw it away. Duncan would be like, well, I
gave it to the guy in the kitchen, and then
that's the whole thing. Just Carrie in her era, she's
gonna snap on Aiden. So so again symbolist because Aiden
is gone by the time Carrie wakes up and the

(01:24:04):
chapter of Duncan's book is on the table their table,
Aiden and Carrie's table.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
I was like, huh, now do you think Aiden read it? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Please? Now, he might have looked at the I think
he looked at the title, maybe like it's Margaret Thatcher.
I don't think he read that now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Do you think him putting it on their table is
symbolic of him being okay with him being kind of
in the mix, at least for Carrie after they had
a whole conversation of you know, I'm not sleeping with
anybody else, blah blah blah. Do you think that was
almost like a green light or like an acknowledge, like
if it happens, it happens.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
No, because I don't think Aiden would be okay with
Carrie sleeping with other people. You know, things are always
he he ha ha in theory until they become in practice,
especially when it comes to men dating women and women.
You know, ain't no pune. When the rabbit got the gun,
you know, it ain't no slip ups. Carrie Aidan would
have reacted the same way if Carrie was like, you know,

(01:25:06):
I slipped up and it just happened. If Carrie would
have just happened Aiden, that would have happened, he would
have crashed out. So yeah, so it's it's wow, wow,
like fatherlike son. But what I will say is I
think that I don't view it that way. If anything,

(01:25:26):
I view it as Aiden kind of like reminding her
where home is, Like here's the chapter in this book,
but this this table, you know, this us we're still
in this, you know. So I don't look at it
as a green light because I don't he's from Virginia,
he ain't. He ain't that progressive.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
And rules.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Right and so.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
And so then we get the next scene, Carrie's down
at the pharmacy and she's buying more tomus. Sister is
battling it this she's been popping have.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
A sponsorship this season? Did they front some money? She is, because.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
And that's when she clocks her best friend Charlotte, who's
in disguise at the pharmacy and frantic. Charlotte's got on
big shades and moving quickly, and Carrie's like, Charlotte, you know.
She turns and clocks her and asks her why she's
purchasing adult male depends, and that's when we get what
we have been waiting on. Charlotte cracks. She cracks, and

(01:26:30):
she reveals, she breaks the secret and reveals that Harry
has prostate cancer. Carrie reassures Charlotte that you know, I'm
your vault. You don't have to worry about me telling anyone.
And that's when I was like, Wow, this is emotionally intense,
because Charlotte collapses in the middle of his pharmacy whales
like she got a lot pent up, and that's the

(01:26:51):
scene of this episode. But go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
To your point earlier. I love how LTW is there
for Charlotte and has been you know, in her own way. Yeah,
but I was so happy that this breakdown happened with Carrie,
just because I feel like this is something or release
that should happen with a long term yes friend, like
somebody who's been there, who you know what I mean?

(01:27:17):
Somebody who you are one percent comfortable with. I was
oddly satisfied as much as last week. I think I
wanted Charlotte to crack at the SPA.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
I was so happy she cracked to Carrie.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Yeah, yeah, And I didn't realize I would be until
it happened. I was like, oh, this makes way more sense.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Yeah yeah, and she to your point, it's important because
like certain people know the context. Like that's one thing
that because you know, friendships change, they morph over time.
But there's something comforting about not having to provide all
the contexts in times of brief or in times of

(01:27:59):
of disagreement or in times of strife. Someone who just
knows who's been there for the chapters in the book
that have led up to this moment, and I can
just express myself how I need to express.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Myself, preach something so beautiful core friends situation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Yeah for sure, for sure. So as we wrap things up, Denver,
how do you rate this episode?

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
What do you give it? Last week? An eight? You know,
and I'll give us one an eight point seven. I know,
I know it's kind of heavy. Yeah, I enjoyed it. Yeah,
I think that it brought a lot to the season.
I think, mm hmmm, I'm gonna do the same.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
I'm gonna do the same thing that you did. I
rarely do I do point fives or the solid number,
but I'm gonna do an eight point seven as well,
because I think that part of the beauty of this show.
We get the whimsical nature and of course the fashion
and people falling in and out of love, but I
think it's also so I love when they just when
life just LIFs like it's a things that really happen,

(01:29:01):
and these people are in their fifties and sixties like
things and these types of things that are happening in
the show right now are also happening to peers of
ours in their third like a lot of the same stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
So it's it's maybe you think a lot about doctors
and appointments and you know, getting older and face with
decisions and questions.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
And the big bogus bill and healthcare and a lot
of stuff happened today, and it's one of those things
where it's like I find the beauty in like it's
so much more like, yes, we watch the show for
an escape, but it's not all about flashy car services
and designer shoes because life be lifing life. Life.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Sometimes you do lose your job and then you have
to come back on things. Sometimes you do get unfortunate,
you know, health diagnosed it. Sometimes you do accidentally spill
the tea about a part of you are not supposed to,
you know what I mean, like just real important stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Sometimes someone who was just in perfect health dies. Yeah,
and to Harry's point, like wasn't he almost ninety? Yes,
but also don't it matter he was in perfect health
and that could throw someone off, you know, And so yeah,
I give it an eight point seven as well. Before
we get out of here, though, do you have any
predictions for next week? No?

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Actually I don't. I feel like I'm anything can go
anyway at this point I will say, like, I don't
think that LTW and Mary and are gonna sleep with
each other. They might kiss me to your point, I
don't think it'll go any further than that. Aiden's still there,
so like now more than ever, which is annoying.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
Well, I saw the teaser.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Oh okay, tell me the teaser.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
We get Patty Lapone next week. So Giuseppe's mom comes into.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
I am yeah, well I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
I'm not mad at her. I'm just kind of like,
oh girl, like I just you know, it's it's a
little tight put culturally and politically right now. Or I'm
kind of like okay, girl. But yes, we get Patti
Lapone and we see Anthony kind of freaking out because
he's meeting you know, Giuseppe's mom and he's trying to
lie about it age with Charlotte. That's a funny scene.
But also what I noted is that Miranda clock's Carrie

(01:31:05):
because it looks like next week Carrie and Duncan are
gonna have a moment and get closer. And also Seema
and Adam carry clocks them and says Sima, what was that?
Seems like nothing, They're gonna have a moment. So we're
moving We're moving forward. You know. Episode six typically in
scripted series, episode six is a defining episode. Yep, it's

(01:31:29):
a shift. So this goes. And so with that being said,
I will remind everyone to keep your comments rolling in.
We love your interactions, and be sure on your podcast
platform to give us five stars. Leave a comment if
you want your voice to be heard, which I've also
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(01:31:50):
hear from y'all and let us know what you think
about Season three, episode six, Silent Mode. Silent Mode, and
we will see you next week.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Yes, good bye, have you one?

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
Good Bye,

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