Show Me Where I Want to Live

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Hey, Hey, it's shar Hey, this is Denver, and we're just
like that. Welcome to the unofficialrecap podcast for Max's original series, and
just like that season two. We'reso excited Denver. So you're ready,
I'm ready, all right, Solet's get things started. And it's that
time. We are back with anotherepisode of We are just like that,

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the unofficial recap podcast for Max's Andjust like that, I'm Devashan, I
am joined by my lovely co host, shar D'sel and it is a beautiful
Thursday. And it's a beautiful Thursdayin Los Angeles. Yes, new episode
came out at midnight last midnight.I'm so glad Denver. For what it's
worth that it's like not excruciatingly hot. It's not, No, it's last

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week was worse. Last week wasgone all last week. I missed it.
Oh excuse me, No, No, I'm just saying before we jump
into this episode, you know,we got some Carrie's Closet confect and I'm
so excited speak pipes. But Ido want to say that I you know,
we noticed different things. I sentyou the memes that I saw about
people talking about Aiden apparently coming backfrom war and that damn jacket that you

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hate it, I knew it.I also saw a funny meme that I
was like, Wow, I neverI don't think I ever thought about it
this way. But someone's tweet wentviral because they said that Carrie is Aiden's
mister Big Carry is Aiden's mister BigOh shit, I gagged U. But

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before we get into this episode,when I think I don't know what what,
I guess We'll see what title wecome up with by the time this
is over. But I'm definitely thinkingmy man, my Man to be the
title of this episode. Um,but let's get into Carrie's closet confessions.
You're ready, okay? Our firstspeak pipe comes from Jellybean. Let's take

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a listen, And just like that, I fell in love with your podcast,
Denver and shar you to our fabulousThank you for doing this show and
for doing it so well and somuch better than how so many others are
trying to do shows about sex andthe city. And just like that,

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I found you on accident weeding throughsome of the other like just problematic podcasts
about these shows. I've listened toevery episode and I'm caught up now and
can't wait to hear what you saythis week. I am a fan for
life. I wish I would havefound you sooner before I wasted time listening
to these other podcasters just get soobsessively nitpicky, just like so volatile towards

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things. Just there's so much internalizedmisogyny and racism and just hatred towards non
binary people and like not being willto think out of the box and look
at something different because you might havenever seen it before. And I could
just go on and on agism andall that. You guys have the perfect
balance. You're funny and smart andmindful and just interesting and you hold my

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attention and I can't wait to hearmore episodes. I'm calling from Buffalo,
New York. We're guess what,we got slammed by the Bomb's clone slammed.
So thanks for doing what you do. Can't wait to hear more episodes.
Thanks. I don't know, I'mspeechless. Thank you, Jean you

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that was the sweetest message ever.And we appreciate you, of course for
listening. You know I always tellDenver and I think I might have said
it on the show. I thinkI haven't even seen other shows or heard
of them other than the Writer's Room. But I think one of the main
things that sets us apart. Ofcourse, we have unique perspectives, but
we don't hate watch the show.No, like we actually like. We

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have our critiques, of course,of course, but there's so many people
who hate watch the show. Ever. We came here, like we said
before, you have fun, Yeah, come to nitpick. We didn't come
to you know, bash anything.We just want to shoot the ship.
And I think I remember the bombcyclone hitting Buffalo, New York. Remember
people who are like frozen inside theirhomes, yes, and couldn't get out.
I remember that. That was verysweet. I don't even it was

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so nice. That was very sweet. And we are very very, very
very appreciative. So thank you somuch, jelly Bean. Our next one
is from Reese, who we've heardfrom before. Yes, let's take a
listen to what Rees has to say. I hope I'm pronouncing that right if
we sing, Hey, Sharon,Jennifer, it's reached from DC. I
just finished listening to last week's podcastepisode. Um, I want to say

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a couple of things. First,completely agree with y'all that hopefully this professor
Morning Show and Miranda thing is nottrue. They don't need to get together
completely agree that Charlotte did not loseherself, or seems like she did not
lose herself. So it was asurprise to you say that. I was
wondering if I was the only onewho noticed that the host at the original
restaurant that Carrie went to is theone who told her that Aiden has had

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a reservation there. So it wasbad on him for not even tell her
she was that there wasn't a reservationthere. She was at the wrong restaurant.
And then I also just wanted tosay, shar I changed my phone
number for one day as well,and Panick didn't changed it right back reached
baby listen, let me tell yousomething. I think the man at that
restaurant was so happy to have somebodyin there, he would have said,

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well to get her at a table. Yes, I genuinely believe that I
found out while listening, because sometimesI listened to the Writer's Room podcast,
like on the weekends, and Ipurposely listened to it on the weekends in
an effort to not color my ownperspective with what I'm going to say on
our show, and that story wasinspired by a real story that happened with

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Michael Patrick King who's the show's showrunner. Okay, and Chris Knows who
played mister Big. They were meetingup for a meeting I guess in preparation
for season one, and that literallyhappened at those two exact same restaurants.
Wow, that's cool. Yeah,that's that's a fun, fun tid bit.
And also Reach, I also,I'm glad that you own the team.
You remember, it's no Naia,no Morand. And we didn't get

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Nia this episode. She must havebeen caught up at work at the morning
show. She must have been producingher ass off her second job. I
love that people actually call her that. Yes, um, what was the
other point that oh about Charlotte losingherself? Thanks reech our. Next and
final, Carrie's closet confession comes fromNash, who we've heard from Nash This

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Nash, the third episode in arow calling we love it. Though we
love it, let's listen to whatNash have to say. Hey, guys,
Nashigan, I feel like I amthe unofficial co host in Wendy Williams
audience. But look, I hadto pause the episode just to make sure
that I made it in time toget to y'all. That Carrie. That

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Carrie is one bold son of agun. Do you hear me? She
said, what with a straight faceafter busting some nuts. Oh now,
I know that I'll make it starttalking crazy, But that crazy I can't

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believe. And you know what,I purposely go by Nash because my first
name is said main character's name.If she brings me some ashamed sometimes I
don't even want to go buy that. But oh my goodness, I cannot
wait to hear how y'all, Ijust can't hear. I can't wait.

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Okay, let me get back tothe episode by y'all. So that's all
the more reason I guess for thisto be called Carrie's Closet. Let me
say something. Go ahead, Ifeel the same way about Harry. Get
there today. Listen. We ofcourse want to thank you all again,

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Jelly Bean, Riese and Nash Yesfor calling in and participating in this segment.
Now, if you want your voiceto be heard, head on down
the speakpipe dot com slash. We'rejust like that, and listen, We're
open to it all. So letus know what you think. I think
we only got about what three moreweeks of this left? I think I
have no idea like the final episodecount? Oh, I think maybe two?

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Really, because this is episode eight. Isn't it ten episodes this season?
I don't know. They haven't reallysaid, have they. No,
they haven't. I just I thinkseason one had ten episodes. Well you
never know, and I mean longgone are the days. It's not Gray's
Anatomy where we're getting twenty four.No, I mean it could be anywhere
from eight to ten. So we'llsee. But this we know, this
wasn't the finale and this was eightright, Okay, Well let's hope we

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have two more. Oh so thatmeans those of you who've been holding back
give us a call at speakpipe dotcom slash. We're just like that.
Yes, Also, you got anote I did, I did, and
someone who wanted to remain anonymous msand tweets. I've gotten a couple.

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I've gotten a couple, but theone I shared with you was actually very
nice. Um, it's kind oflong, as I don't know if I
want to read the entire thing.Um, But there was a comment about
Aiden popping up in the second movie. Right, we didn't forget about that
though, right, we didn't forgetabout that. I didn't I know that
she met an Abu Dhabi and Charlottewas really questioning her, like, girl,

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is this something you want to do? And Carrie put on her dark,
smoldering eyeliner and went to go meetwith that man for dinner. Which
is funny that was brought up beforethis episode because I feel like we see
a lot of that happen in whatwe're about to talk about. So I
think we should just get into it. Let's get into it. Okay.
So the episode opens up the softmusic playing basking in the afterglow. Okay,

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Carrie and Aidan are locked away ina hotel room. Baby. Oh,
and we also learned that it's beena little over a month since last
just a little over a month,and they are in their own little world.
Listen. She said something about whatthey ate yesterday or closing the blind
yesterday and the day before, theday before, and I was like,
oh, they've been fucking all week. Yeah, I need a weekend,

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Like, have you ever had awell, of course you have. I
am trying to think I have beenlocked away with it, but it's been
years since I've done something like that. It doesn't even appeal to me nowadays
with me, No, that doesn'tappeal to me right now. I just
think you have to do the rightperson. That's what it is. That's
what it is. That's because theright person will have you in the bed

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for days. Oh, you don'tgotta tell me. I didn't believe the
food on more than one occasion,okay, but yes, and they She
also references the twenty six, whichis somebody who travels all the time hotel
food and those prices is something Iwill never get over. No, and
they keep going up and you don'treally have a choice, that is true.
It's like, what are you goingto order from the hotel? It's
always going to be a eight dollarsside of bacon, a twenty six dollars

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drink, and it'd be good too. Um. I didn't really pick up
much from this conversation other than youknow, Aiden has chickens and and he
has rolled or it's aid Carrie.I don't know if I did. I'm
meant to put carry in my notes. Anyway. There's a romanticization that's happening
about this Virginian country house that's happeningin this scene, and then they just

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kind of established that Carrie's going toVirginia. She wants to go, she
wants to meet the kids, whichwho is this woman? For one?
Who is this woman? But fortwo? As I was listening to Aiden
tell this detailed story about the chickenland and eggs and in his youngest son's
bed, I in my mind wasexpecting somebody around eight, nine, ten,

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eleven years old. But and threeboys are like twenty one grown seventeen.
I'm imagining a kid. That's wheremy mind went, um. Same.
But the next thing I have tosay, because I have in my
notes this is a sharp move.For sure, I feel like that's not
going to be your only time sayingthat, Oh no, no, no,
no, it's in here a coupleof times. It's a couple of
times. So we get to carry, and she's at her house googling what

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to expect from Aiden's house. Yeah, well, man, she's totally in
the Bible completely. After a week, she can see the window that she's
gonna hang out of, the lookout of like and like you said,
who is this woman? Because thecarry that we know is a tried in
true New Yorker and in the city, her columnist sex in the city.

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But she's never, not once entertainedthe thought of leaving New York. So
she is smitten right now. Sheis smitten. Okay, um, Oh,
it's funny. She's letting her imaginationrun wild. That's what I had
in my notes. But then weget lunch with Seema, Charlotte and Miranda
and Carrie, and I have tosay, Seema shed she kind of let

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me down to in this scene becauseI didn't know where we were going.
Okay, So okay, let's let'sget there. So the entire damn conversation
at lunch is about aiden. Fromfrom the Ruta to the Tuta, it
is about a then and you getCarrie's excitement. It's the honeymoon phase.
She's reconnected. This is the mostexcited we've seen Carrie, you know,

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about dating throughout this entire series,and it's a you know, there's there
is a comfortability and a familiarity thatcomes with maybe sometimes revisiting things of the
past. Um, but this wholeconversation is about him. Now she does
mention that, oh, as Ihave in my notes said, everyone is

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thrilled in this conversation except Seema.So I thought two things. Okay,
these are the two things I thought. I thought based on the title of
this episode, which I forgot tomention, Season two, episode eight,
one hundred years ago, I thought, either Seema knows something that we don't
know, or she was feeling sometype of way. And based on the

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title, I'm like, did shean aiden? Might you know have a
run in years ago? Like that'swhat I thought. That was her reaction.
So Karrie was romanticizing the house andshe was talking about it. Seema
perked up, but she was like, let me see right, Yeah,
once she started showing her then shekind of got engaged in the conversation.
So I thought, being a realtor, there was going to be some like

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revelation or you know, something toconnect some type of dots. That didn't
happen. Um, what do youhave to say about her facial expressions because
she was shifty. Yeah, absolutelynot here for it. Not interested almost
like I want to see like ahat friend, but a gay off,
like very strong hate friend. I'mglad you mentioned that term because I'm gonna
I'm going to bring that up laterbecause I'm glad that you actually used that

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term because I challenged myself to reframeand not you use that term in this
specific situation. Oh, I'm sayingshe was a hater friend. And I
don't think she was a hater.Well, I don't knowing what I know,
but I'm saying her reaction to Carrie'sstories, Yeah, she was saying
it gave off a very hater friendbibs. You know, like she's a
single friend. She you know,all of a sudden, her single friend

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is in love with this man.And it's also all of a sudden,
and now she's googling houses and goingto the country and it's like, also,
what we're going to talk about later, of course, is Carrie has
totally forgotten about her summer plans withSeema and there's no acknowledgement. So that's
also probably affecting the reason as well, for sure. And she don't want
to reign on the parade and say, well, what about the vacation in

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the Hamptons this summer, right,which I'm like, I said, we
don't get to that later. I'msure we're gonna have some disagreements that at
the top of all off beforehanding thephone back Seema did find a problem,
because it felt to me like shemight have been looking for a problem.
Okay, she did, and shefound the negative and it's that Carrie was
looking at houses in the UK Norfolk, England. Yes, baby moving too,

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Damna asked. Which I found wasa theme that is a thing you're
moving a little too fast? Givingvery sweet sixteen by Destiny's Child's on the
walls. Charlotte's always on board andI love that for her. Yeah,
he's just a down ass bitch thisentire series. Well, her kids or

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her husband are carried. Yeah,you know what also was brought up?
Uh gosh, what was it?It was like last episode where Charlotte asked
Miranda, and we're going to getback on topic, but we remember when
Charlotte asked Miranda like about love.Remember it was February fourteen, and Miranda
was saying she doesn't know what sheis. They had this very common like
nuanced conversation around spectrums. I totallyforgot the way in which Charlotte reacted season

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one when they were at the park. Remember she went off on Miranda when
Miranda revealed that she was in arelationship with Chay and just like how Charlotte's
like in a different place now.I was so distracted in that season one
scene, mainly because it's gonna soundso bad, but the lighting kept changing
in every shot they would do thewhite shots and the like. The lighting
was just completely off. It wasout there all day. But I do

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have in my notes Carrious to somethingat the table when she was like,
why slow it down? And forwhat? Which is a fair question.
But I'm as I'm watching, I'mlike, what in the Lamar and Chloe
is going on here? I mean, is that maybe just something that happens
as you get older, you realizethat you don't really have time to waste.
So if we're feeling this and we'rehappy, why not I definitely thinking
in my thirties, so I canimagine being yeah, knocking on sixty,

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like, yeah, I have haveI ever thought I'd never felt like that
about someone. But I know thatI also I know that it's trauma informed
in the name of self awareness.I never want to like miss anything,
So it's like it's gonna take someoneto like come along, and really I
don't want to say throw me offmy game, but like catch me off
guard for me to be moving thisfast because I just I don't know.

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I just always think men are upto something. True, it's some nefarious
Why are you so thirsty? LikeI like you, you like me?
Bring it on down? Yeah,but they were, they were meeting each
other right where they were. Yes, the energy was matching. Absolutely,
no projections there. Um. Sothen we get Aiden. Oh what I

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have in my notes is that Aiden. It seems like Aiden came back in
Carrie's life and she forgot about everythingand everyone. Yeah, okay, it's
not like she had a lot goingon anyway, that is true. But
they're talking about this film titled Howard'sEnd. I've never seen it, of
you, no book, No,it was a movie. I thought it's
a movie. Okay, I don'teven think I missed that little detail.
Carrie reveals that she and Aiden wantto take the ladies out to dinner one

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of these Thursday, I think itwas next Thursday, And I was like,
this is kind of weird. Whydo you find that weird? Because
I think the speed of which theyare moving, that's something I feel like
they should kind of keep to themselves, not like keep it to themselves,
but like it's one thing for thepeople in the relationship to move fast.
But all of a sudden, it'sbeen you know, a week or two
weeks or however many weeks, andnow you want to wrote my friends in

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this fast. I just feel likethat's a recipe for disaster. But don't
you think that the friends are matureenough to handle it? M I don't
think it's about really handling it,and is it roping them in if they
all have prior history with him too? They all know him, they all
know of Aiden. He's an AbuDhabi, he's in the series. They
know him. Seem as the onlynewbie. Yeah, no, still too

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soon? Really, I disagree?I disagree. Yeah we need like another
month, even with a blast fromthe past. Yeah, okay, because
he didn't work the first time.I would hate to get my friends all
invested again only for it to blowup. Baby, these women are used
to it. Within he used toIt's a carry brash shot. The next

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scene, we get Miranda and carrycatching up. They're walking down the street
and Miranda's feeling carrying about her internshipat this law firm, and I thought
that this was a classic sex inthe city. Uh. I don't want
to say, like trope or scene, but it's it's one of those things
that hearkens back to the original seriesand the dynamic between Miranda and Carrie's friendship.
When Miranda suggests that maybe Carrie shouldtake a beat because she's moving very

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fast, and that's the Miranda I'mused to, And I said, note
this, Note this, because Ithink this is not the first time that
about like Carrie's speed in this relationshipwas brought up in this episode. And
I think that that is by design. Really, I think that is by
writer's own design. Okay, AndI'm not gonna say Aiden gonna gag her

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or something, but I don't Idon't see this wrapping up when we get
to the finale of season two withCarrie and Aiden riding off into the sunset.
I don't think. I don't thinkit's either. But it also reminded
me that Miranda is really good atgiving advice to everyone but herself, of
course, and I ain't got nothingto say about that, of course,
but I like that Miranda. Itshows that balance as well, like Charlotte

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is not approaching things critically, ofcourse, and Miranda's gonna if you get
too high up in the stratosphere ofMiranda. Don't say not hold all.
Now, she's gonna, you know, encourage you to caution. I think
with the new job, I think, like lawyer Miranda might be kind of
crying. I didn't think about that. She might be back in the mindset
of like, well let me lookat this. Yeah. Yeah, I

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also haven't here. I don't reallyknow a lot about New York because I'm
an other guy. Um, butthat church was really pretty, and I
wondered if that church was significant whenthey walked past. Yeah, it was
such a wide shot because it's pretty. Or is it significant? I meant
to google before the show? Okay, I probably go laughter, But was
it the show? Do you thinkit's the church that? Um? Like,
what if they were on the streetthat when Big in the movie was

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like stop the car, like like, you know, I wonder if that's
like an easter l I don't knowwho knows. I just threw that out
there. But Carrie mentions that sheis not living in the past. She's
living in the present and she's havingamazing orgasms. I have in my note
that sister is gone. Sister hasgone out of here. She is saying
that she's having the best orgasms ofher life, even with having been with

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Aidan in the past. Ass theseare like mind blow. I don't know
what that man is doing, whatthat norfolkman is doing to our girl,
but she is gone, she flonggone. Good for her, good for
her, for her, good forher. You absolutely cast um. So
this is the part that Nash wastalking about, and I'm sure we're going

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to have a lot to say aboutthis. Carrie is reflecting walking down the
sidewalk with Miranda, and she suggeststhis is a very introspective moment. But
she suggests that maybe she's been holdingwas holding herself back because of Big,
like the prospect of Big, becauseBig was so in and out of her
life and of course, you know, was playing games, emotional manipulation,

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bread crumb and gas lighting, allof that stuff. But she suggests that
because of that, she wasn't fullypresent in her other relationships and her connections
like Miranda, Yeah, I wascompletely gobsmacked when this came out of her
mouth. Well then she asks herselfand she said, it ain't even right,
which is not the first time thathad things in this episode. But
friends provide a safe space where sometimesyou know you just lay it out there.

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She's like, this ain't even right, but was Big a big mistake.
We're gonna give you all some deadair space on that, because baby,
how can she say that? Baby? Like? How like in what?

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In what mind? So this iswhat I was on my drive over
to your lovely apartment. This iswhat I was thinking. I was thinking
because you know, sometimes love showsup in different relationships and in different interactions
at different frequencies. There's different experiencesthat people have with partners, and I
think there's a freedom that being withAiden allows her that was not provided with

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being with Big. And that's notto say that the love wasn't there or
that she didn't love him, butit is a different relationship. Just but
she's laughing more, there's more hairtosses. She was a bit more structured.
Yeah, when she was John JamesPress, Absolutely. I mean,
I don't think that we have lifemistakes like that, right, And I
think that it's really annoying for Carrynot to realize that had it not been

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for her life with the Big,I don't think she would be able to
recognize or appreciate what come out withAidan right now. No, absolutely not.
You know what I'm saying, shewould appreciate this man. So for
her to even say that, it'slike the most unh unhinged carry I've seen
in a very large sister is ina state of euphoria and with all the
dopamine from them orgasms, like shethis is literally I have in my notes

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that she's gone. She's gone.And I gave her a break when she
said this, because I was like, well, maybe she's just having a
moment with Miranda and they're just talkingabout it. But then we'll get to
it. And there's such thing asyou know, actively processes, right,
So it's like when it comes out, you know you're going to walk with
a friend, you're That doesn't meanthat this is her destination. There's an
ellipsis there, like the title ofthe show, and just like that,

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it live sists, not a period, but it comes up again later and
we'll get there. Yes. Sothen we get Charlotte announcing to her family
that she's going to Kasabian full time. No one cares. Lillian Rock are
thrilled that Charlotte will be gone more. She will not be home when they
get home from schooltime. She gonnamiss dinner, they don't give a shit.
Then we're at we're Miranda's internship,and I have to shout out.

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I think the actress is named Courtney, which is that the black girl.
She also starred in Anything's Possible,which is Billy Porter's directorial debut. I
consulted in post production on that film, not pre and not during production.
So if you decide to hop overthe prime video and watch it, she
know I was on the back end, but shout out to her. She's

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a she's she's great and she's sogreat at at playing mean girl. So,
uh, But we're at Miranda's internshipand she meets Serena and Sloan.
They're filling her in on how Rainaruns the operation. You know, there's
empty promises about taking notes with people, don't ever have to do that,
and grunt work. They're doing allthis grunt work, like internships can sometimes
suck. Like I did two internshipsin college, and one I really loved

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and one I really hate it.They were polar opposite experiences for the same
field. Well, at least you'vegot the experience. Yeah, I guess.
You know, Miranda is trying torelate to these girls and you know,
she mentions her thirty years prior experienceone of the girls office here a
cookie, a girlt chocolate chip cookie. Let's talk about this. Let's do
it now. I love cookies myweakness. Like whenever I cut alcohol before

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like a trip or something, mybody craves chocolate and cookies. You know,
that's not uncommon. Like when Iwent sober temporarily, I was flying
through the sour patch kids. Yeah, I think I came over here and
brought candy from the alcohol that yourbody is used to. It tries to
get another and I don't even drinklike that, but but my body,

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and you know, sugar is eighttimes more addictive than like controlled substances or
something like that, elicted drugs.I don't know, but so so you're
a go ahead, you're a cookieeastuff. I don't know if I would
ever eat a garlic chocolate chip cookie. I would try it. I think
I might take a like a nibble, but it doesn't even sound good.

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And it was thick. It almostlooked like a protein cookies. I hate
those, yeah, cookies that arelike so thick. No, I'm a
very specific chocolate chip cookie type ofbitch, and that would not tickle my
fancy. Yeah, I would tryit, though, I would try a
little bit of it because I thinkabout like the savoriness that comes with the
little sea salt sprinkled on. Ilove a sea salt, yes, but
and also garlic can overpower the whole. It just doesn't sound, you know.

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They say, like banana be whoopingeverybody's ass in the smoothie, not
just like garlic. I remember puttinga banana in a lunch box. In
your entire lunch tastes like banana sandwich, Like everything in the box. I
have not even thought about that.That is so irritating. Separate Banana really
do be whooping everybody's ass and thelunch pail everything tastes like banana. So

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m Raina then emerges the boss andwho is pregnant and gorgeous. Shout out
to who inclusion. Yes, wegot a lot of that this episode.
The US mission wants a meeting inabout an hour, and she wants Miranda
to be the NoteTaker, and Serenaand Sloan jump on more of those citations

(28:23):
because they had done about five hundredof it and they were gagged. They
were gagged. Miranda was too.I would have been to because it's like
she literally just started yeah, andyou know what, And I will say
that at first I definitely was onthe intern side about privilege, which is
a conversation that which is an interestingtalking point throughout this episode. But I

(28:45):
think now with your going to break, okay, and when we come back,
we will talk about the return ofJDS Lord Have Mercy. Welcome back
to where Just like that the unofficialrecap podcast of Max's original series, And
just like that, I'm sure herewith my lovely co host and friend Denver,
and we are currently discussing season two, episode eight, one hundred years

(29:11):
ago. I think that's what it'scalled. I think I did watch with
the Captains on today. Okay,hey, you've been doing them a lot
more lately. You know. Itwas by accident when I hit playing they
were just on. I think theremote slipped in between the couch cushions and
I was trying to take notes,and I was like, you know what,
we'll just let it helps if you'retaking notes to have those on.
Yeah. So now we get Carrierolling up on Chay at the vet,

(29:34):
which nice to see that she's stillworking. Now, can I just be
honest, which nice to see thatthey're still working. Now you want to
do? Can I just be honest? What you promise? What does Twitter
say? You promise you won't judgeme? Can I say something with that
job? I mean, I won'tand I'll meet it. So I actually

(29:55):
like Chay in this environment. Ithink I really enjoy Chay without more and
to being part of the Cha equation. Okay, okay. I want to
make sure it wasn't just me,but I was like, Chay kind of
cold. I was not annoyed bythe scene at all me either. I
was like, is this Chase redemptionarc? As long as Miranda ain't in
the picture, as long as themtwo together, I should say, because

(30:17):
I'm not gonna blame Miranda for Chasebehavior, even though she did enable it,
But as long as those two arenot Because I like Miranda without Chay
and I like Chay without Miranda,I will say I was surprised to still
see Chay in this episode. Ithink we're gonna get her for the remainder
of the series. I know weare. I mean, well, yeah,

(30:37):
they loved them, they loved himsome chey um. But I was
just hoping quish, which, bythe way, I recently did not meet
in person, but was in communication, I'll say, with the non binary
person who is Chase showrunner on theABC show. Oh, like recently,
Yeah, how was that fine?Fine? Nothing like their character? Yeah,

(31:03):
but I should mention it wasn't likein person. It was like I
instantly recognized them because it's like samehaircut, kind of same aesthetic. Was
like, oh my god, that'sJad has a showrunner. Oh my god.
Nevertheless, um, I loved thelittle quip with the Carrie didn't want
to interrupt, you know, becausethe dog getting something done and the turtle

(31:26):
is worried about the dog, andCarrie's reaction, like Sarah Jessica Parker is
so good at like yeah, yeah, I know, I was going to
say something, but yeah, shelike, baby, I don't I can't
be bothered. But Carrie, ofcourse has an ulterior motive. She has
a proposition for Chay and she wantsthem to rent to her because she and

(31:48):
Aiden are running a tab up withthese NYC hotels, which, considering that
Carrie has all this money, Ididn't think that she would even be concerned
about a hotel bill. But it'sthat not indicative, but of how often
they've been hotels for twenty six dollarsomlet that too. But then also,
you know, you realize that peoplewho typically have a lot of money aren't

(32:08):
necessarily as frivolous as we would thinkthem to be. Yeah, and Carrie
certainly isn't She still uses a travelagent. Like Carrie is still very you
know, she had to upgrade thatMacBook. Yeah, but I think about
that apartment that she was going tobuy last season, and you know that
was a damned twenty million dollars apartment, And so I'm like, what do
Yeah, what are we doing?Trying to hold on? And we don't

(32:29):
know Aiden's income either. He doeslive in Norfolk, true, and has
chickens and the country in Norfolk.He's not like he in the business district.
Yeah, that's true. So uhso Chase like down for it?
Of course I would be, becauseshe need the money. By the way,
I love what's Judy say. Ilike Judy because she is in this

(32:52):
conversation. Judy's ad to win it, Judy's in it more Judy. So
then our next scene we get Anthonyat the baker and baby Lorraine is on
the line looking for Giseppe. Lorraineis on the line. I love you
know Anthony's quip about Loraine. Irarely say this. I don't never say
this to people, but you're eatingtoo much bread. Have a protein,

(33:14):
And I'm glad that's where he leftit, because I thought it was going
to go somewhere very nasty. Idid, I did? I mean knowing
Anthony, especially like sex in theCity Anthony. Yeah, we're in twenty
twenty three. So Giuseppe walks inand Anthony's beating the bread, and Giuseppe
basically shows Anthony how to love thebread. Oh. There were also jokes

(33:36):
about Nana. Nana says, youcan taste my love through my cooking,
and Anthony's like, my Nana justsaid, you know, take off my
heels. Your father's on his wayhome or something. Now, let's bread
scene, let's talk about it.Go ahead. As the resident gay on
the show, Well, I guesswe found out in this scene that Giuseppe
was game. Yes, As Anthonytalks about Lorraine, like really just obsessed

(34:00):
with Giuseppe, Gizeppie says, Iit's bread and it's real intimate and which
I'm sure caught Anthony off guard,especially if he knows and understands Gizeppie to
be straight. You couldn't even seestraight he I mean, the bread basket
was touching him, shout out toDrew Barrymore, and so he Giseppe reveals
that, like he keeps telling Lorrainethat he's gay, and Anthony's like,

(34:22):
you shouldn't have to lie. Hesaid, I ain't why how I'm doing.
But then I kind of figured thathe was you did how so?
And don't say the whole poet thing. No, no, no, not
the poet thing. I mean thatis a dead giveaway. But I just
felt that from the very beginning,like he wasn't really into the job.
He wasn't really into like the DrewBarrymore the like, he was just there,

(34:45):
you know what I mean. AndI feel like only a gay would
walk around with a dick that bigand pants like that and not feel some
kind of way. Oh I didn'tthink about that. Yeah, we're kind
of a ceedy bunch. Well,I mean listen. Anthony fires him immediately,
as should have, yes, andhe said something to the effect of
like go where Burgundy and do otherpoet type things. Then he Also when

(35:06):
when Giuseppie brings up a lawyer,he said, Okay, it's probation pending
firing, but you have to go, which was smart. Yeah, I
think it was things. I don'tthink he wanted to get lizz out.
Oh my dear God. Sorry toosoon, Yes, too soon? Sorry
um, but yeah it's again.Shout out to self awareness, Anthony.
Okay, he knew. And thenas Giseppe leaves, he says something in

(35:30):
Italian and it translates to girl,take a chill pill. See he got
sassy m now he's doing so.Then we get Charlotte and LTW they're shopping
these outfits. I mean I wantedto know what was up with the sales
lady. Like everybody, every shopthat Charlotte goes to, the sales people

(35:50):
don't like her. Well, Ithink Charlie goes to a very specific that
is shop the cats to a veryspecific that is true. Um, Charlotte
tries on the dress that she likesand hates how she looks in it.
She immediately begins picking herself apart immediately, And what I liked about this scene
is as someone who also picks herselfapart, you all, we always see

(36:12):
things on our bodies that other peopledon't see. Oh, absolutely, at
least until we draw attention to it. Then people know, you know,
you can't une it. But Ithought that that's what LTW. It was
like, Charlie, you look fine, but she's just like obsessing over her
menopause stomach. So you know whatI thought at first, I didn't think
it was a menopause issue. Ithought it was you thought it was a
new baby kind of. I meanthat considering that Harry just got his shooters

(36:37):
back. Oh god, I didn'tthink about that. The fourth of July
is back, yes, so Iwas like, oh, wait a minute,
But also a minute. I dolike that they're doing a storyline about
the physical aspects of menopause, becauseoftentimes the menopause is it's entered into the
conversation. It's really just you know, hot flashes. Yeah, but it's

(36:58):
like, no, sometimes you findthat you and it's harder to lose it.
Shout out to Erica Jane, whatshe gained weight? Well, no,
no, no, she was onand watch it happens Zyve the other
night. You know she's super skinny. Yeah, and everybody's like and she
was like, no, um,it's menopause. But she said it in
a way where people were like,wait, you lose weight menopause, you
gain weight, But she said,no, no, no, I gained

(37:20):
all my weight on menopause and Iwent to the doctor and I got it
off hormonally. So I guess thewhatever weight she gained during menopause, whatever
she did, yet part of it. But people were like, balanced her
hormone hormones, basically kind of likewhat Samantha was doing in Abu Dhabi with
all the yams. Yes, butpeople took it to me and like,
girl, you lost all this weightbecause of menopause. And so those have
been the headlines for the last threedays. Oh yeah, because no one's

(37:42):
buying that. The sales lady thenbrings Charlotte some dresses and she is offended
as she should have been shapeless capesis when she brought her. And I
understand that's with respect to like differentcuts. I just think that sometimes there
sensitivity that that needs sensitivity training thatneeds to go on. Like if I

(38:05):
pick out a specific cut of addressand I don't like how I look in
at the alternatives, you grab needto be as close to that cut the
woman. She was like trying tohelp. We didn't know that though,
because was different cuts that are moreflattering to hide areas that were not that.
When Charlotte asked that lady, whatdoes she think? She just walked
away and LG dummy was like,whatever she's going through is don't take it

(38:28):
personally, honey, because Charlotte wasgonna have a fit. I was a
little concerned in the scene because Ithought for a second this was going to
turn into like a weight shaming typeof thing. I wasn't sure. Oh
but it did. But it wasCharlotte on herself correct And when the um
when she stormed off and she wasthe waitress was sitting there talking to Lisa

(38:50):
just kind of like what did Ido wrong? You know? And Lisa
was like, you're just twenty five, you said, waitress waitress? I
mean what attendant. Yep, I'mlike, what scene are you talking about,
Lisa? One that note table today? Yes? Yes, yes,
what do you sales associate? Salesassociate? There we go. Um,

(39:13):
sorry, we're gonna make me laugh, okay, Um No, I was
saying that. I just I thoughtthe scene really worked. Yeah, I
think that it was a very umimportant conversation. It was about women and
getting older and changing bodies and howthat relates to youth. And it didn't
really feel like Forster preaching. Yeahit didn't because it wasn't. It was
fleeting a big young god situation likethis. This really worked and I really

(39:37):
enjoyed it. So then in ournext scene, oh, we get our
teaser, are warm up for nextepisode because Charlotte is going through old photos
and we see the picture of theO G four with Kim Catrall aka Samantha
included. And I have in mynotes. You're gonna roll your eyes probably,
But this kind of made me wantphysical copies of all my memories in

(40:00):
my phone. Really, I enjoythe consolidation of digital, but also I
think with all of the conversations goingon right now, just you know how
fleeting digital stuff can be, evenif when you back stuff up, like
if a system goes down. Werely a lot on digital copies. But
it's also like save the trees.Oh, I'm torn, global boiling girl.

(40:25):
But this made me want But alsoit was like more clutter. If
I had a tub of pictures thatyou have more clutter. I don't need
any more books in my apartment,not even a photo album. Get it
like a digital one? Oh yeah, like one of those refrigerators that has
the slideshow still digital. You saidthat track regerators, I said, my

(40:49):
lord, oh yeah, I wasabout to say that was definitely something I
do. But Charlotte see's a versionof herself. I'm guessing this is like
from twenty years ago when she wasin her thirties, and she really aspires
to get back to that version ofherself, which I mean, who hasn't
done that? You know? Butyou you have to honor space and hold
space that you The likelihood of yougetting your seventeen year old body back is

(41:10):
slim to now what my seventeen yearold body, But there are people who
did know that's what I have money. I really couldn't relate to this because
I look at my old pictures andI'm like, oh, thank god,
I don't look like that anymore.There are people who who look at pictures
of them twenty I mean, I'mthis from now. Maybe I'll be like,
oh, I wish I had mythirty something body right, which is
more reasonable. But I know peoplewho aspire for their high school shapes and
things like that pre love handles andall of that. But I'm like that

(41:32):
woman think, um, yeah,it has to be because men aren't there,
typically aren't in their physibulkiest or physicalpeak. I don't want to say,
hold on, we're not gonna dolem me. I'm not saying that
women are at their physical peace.Oh god, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no no no. I just
want to be clear, that's notwhat we're saying. For some who may
view themselves at their physical peak inhigh school, they can probably relate to

(41:55):
this scene if they are in theirthirties. She's stenbur, you almost had
us in some shit up here.Us not what we're saying. For the
love of God, I didn't evenrealize that anyway. Um So then we
get Aiden and Carrie. Oh excuseme, I mean Brad and Janet.
They are. They arrive at Chay'sapartment, as as their cousins, kissing

(42:21):
cousins kissing cousins. The neighbors decide, ee, no, I was just
saying, of course, you know, Aiden is just over speaking. That's
how you can always tell when peoplein some stuff like he ain't smooth,
You're just talking too much, providingtoo much information, unanswered questions. That's
the country, yeah quick? Andthen I love the they them of it

(42:44):
all. Yes, yes, yes, yes, he tried, he tried,
he tried, and I love thatCarrie corrected him a true ally when
he's like, how do you knowit? She's like you and it was
casual. It wasn't It wasn't abig deal. It wasn't any this is
what we need in question. Itwasn't talking about how we need this in
more shows. When it comes toLGBTQ representation, not everything needs to be

(43:07):
a soap box pulpit, preachy,teachy moment. It can be reflective of
real life where it's just a casualtalking point, sucking it up, she's
correcting it, and it's and we'vemoved on, thank you. We do
not need all these grant all thisgrandstand and all the damn time. But
this neighbor who keeps crossing their path? Yes, why I thought it was

(43:27):
the guy from Half and Half atfirst. I want to know, why
is it that it's Carrie and Aidenwho keep getting the signs from the neighbors
and not the terrible tenants that Chasehad before. Well, so what I
got from this is maybe there's beena slow build, so maybe it's not
his first run in with Chase Airbnb'sgiven that it's been like a month,
and I think that's ultimately why thephone call was placed. Like that,

(43:51):
Carrie and Aiden were the charlote brokethe camel's back, like us, two
new faces in here. Okay makessense to me, m And we know
that apartment buildings are ever on boardfor Airbnb, not at all ever,
So they get in Chay's house andCHA don't have nothing, which is I
can't stay in an Airbnb like that. I've never been in a situation like
this. In Airbnb's they've always hadeverything, nothing right, you know.

(44:15):
But I've been in most Airbnbs thatI've been and have had at last everything.
Yeah, that's the kitchen has hadthe things. But to Aiden's point,
you cannot have a proper kitchen withoutsalad tongs and a pepper mill.
I agree, I feel you.I agree. I like every type of
appliance unit too, even if Idon't know how to use it. I
like looking or I like knowing thatit's there, Like I'm such a home

(44:36):
person, which is why we gotto the next scene and I was like,
cretan barrel. But what I wassaying is that also Chay has no
hankers. That's what Carrie was concernedabout. And they were wired. So
then they're shopping for kitchen gadgets myfavorite type of story. They was getting
on my nerves really because Carrie's toofar gone? Are we high on how

(44:59):
swears? Yes, girling shopping?She they're in a honeymoon era. Absolutely,
but I feel like Carrie's more fargone than a like Aidan is.
Don't get me wrong. Don't getme wrong before y'all go to speak pipe.
I'm not saying that Aiden ain't matchingenergy. I'm not saying that Aiden
isn't equally as invested, because heis. These two are on the same
wavelength. But maybe it's something specificallyabout Carrie that got under my skin.

(45:22):
She just seemed too far gone.I felt Carrie because those stories aren't be
so happy. I was like,yeah, we need this and you need
that. Ye too? Oh thecutting board remember when you made a cutting
board? Yeah? Girl, heremember around the time you broke up with
him to chase big. Oh mygod, let's getting very much like we're
moving in together. Yes, thatis what it is like the next step

(45:45):
I mean, like I said,for a week Chloe and Lamar, that's
mostly for lesbian's right, isn't thattheir stereotype? The second data is a
U all truck. Is that myjoke to make? I think I saw
a lesbian make that joke? Imean, okay, second date involves a
U haul um. So then weget Sema in her office. She gets

(46:06):
a text from Kerry that she ignoresand I did not like this at all
because it was specifically about dinner.Dinner Yes, Sursday. Yes. Then
her colleague Elliott comes in with theproposal. There's a Marvel film actor who
needs a place to rent for ninemonths. We learned that his name is
Robbie Godry. He is straight andsingle. Yeah, yeah, definitely seemas

(46:29):
type. Seema said, a demandingstraight is worse than a picky gay,
which I have to agree. Ihave to agree. I don't really hang
out around a lot of demanding straights. I don't at all. Yeah,
I have to think about that.I don't know any demanding straits. No,

(46:49):
but I did like seem as Littlementioned about firing the HR. How
he fired HR because they had nosense of humor, which is totally something
that I would do, but alsothat that speaks to that. Also,
I felt like that's two jokes inone because HR isn't supposed to have like
HR supposed to go by the book. That's why they're hired. If they
loosen it up in one area,they're gonna have to loosen it up in

(47:12):
others. And then the whole pointof view being there is maintaining order in
this workplace. So I get that, but I do believe that as a
society, I will say this,we have gotten two. We've gone a
little too far. I feel likenot every joke is intended to be personally.

(47:32):
We talked about this in our premator. We talked about this unrelated to
the show, but what try tobe careful here because I don't want to
get yeah, because that's where we'vecome to. But my response when we
talked about this again, we talkedabout this um before we record it today,
but it had nothing to do withthem. Just like that, there's

(47:52):
intent versus impact, and we cannotproject our senses of humor onto other people.
We don't know people's triggers, histories, none of that. So you
can intend for it to be justa fly by the seat, you know
comment, but for somebody else thatmade weigh heavily on them. And that's
where I think things get sad.I would probably try to hire people with
my sense of humor. Oh god, they can't be Hr. They can't

(48:16):
be Hr. They'd have to beElliott. But back to Sema and this
man, Yeah, he comes inand he said something. He said,
Sema, show me where I wantto live. And if I wore panties,
they probably drive, they would havedropped. Seema is a bit uh.
I think she was unfazed by thatbecause she has walls Bill. She

(48:39):
was intrigued. She's intrigued because theredefinitely was some flirty energy there because she
was like, what about personal drama? Yeah, yeah, yeah, she
was intrigued and I want that forher. I do too, especially after
seeing her reaction to which we're timingto get carried. We're gonna get too,
because like I said, I feellike you and I are about to
get into Let's take a break,we feel this team, and then we

(49:00):
will come back and get into it. All right, all right, welcome
back to We're Just Like That,The Unofficial recap podcast for Max's original series,
And just like that, I'm sure, and I'm here with Denver and
we are recapping season two, episodeeight. Hell yeah, we are.
What's the title of this episode onehundred years, a hundred years ago or

(49:21):
something that was one hundred years ago? We'll look after. Yeah, I
kept it's at the top of mynotes, but I'm so deep in my
notes. You don't want to losethem. No, I don't want to
lose my place. So now wehave Miranda back at the internship and the
interns are pissed. She's joining Sloanand Serena for lunch and even brings a

(49:42):
peace offering, which is the chocolategarlic cookie chocolate chip garlic cookies. But
it's a shady set. Now,why do you think that they gave her
the cookie in the first place thefirst time? Was it just to be
nice? Would you take this fromme? Because she said you'd be doing
me a favor? Okay, Sowhen she said that, I thought that
that was rude in some of theweight issues that have been the theme of

(50:02):
this episode. So if it were, which I thought it was too,
as Miranda, why then would yougo and give a cookie? If she
already made it clear to eat thecookie, but she didn't necessarily say that.
She said these are our favorite fromdownstairs. So Miranda already like they
sighed eye in her after Raina islike, you're the boss bitch of the

(50:25):
interns. And I think that shewas genuinely just trying to make you said
this is your favorite and here's atreat for me to you during lunchtime,
and I get that. I justthink that it was in poor taste,
knowing that she gave up her cookieand you were doing her a favor.
I think she was just trying tobreak the ice. Now here, girl,
hold the sandwich so I don't eatit. Okay, Hey you want
this sandwich? Like, yeah,girl, we've already done this. You

(50:46):
know, Miranda's a mature woman becauseshe calls them out. But I think
Miranda sex in the City would havecalled them out too, And it was
in a jokey, joke way,like I feel really it's secure because I
feel like y'all holes are texting aboutme in front of my face. Oh
oh no, it's something else.It's not a I feel like this is
happening. It's this is happening.Yeah, I wish you would have approached

(51:07):
it from I'm not an idiot,yes, the Joki joke, But again,
Denver, you when you assume,you make an ass out of yourself,
because what if they what if theywere like, why what are you
talking about? And flip the textmessage around, and they were talking about
Sloan's sick grandmother and what she's gonnado about it when she gets home,
Like you don't know without sure,but you know, you know what?

(51:30):
You sat down and looking up andgiggling and texting each other silently and very
ready for war. I don't know, I don't know. I just don't
know without a shadow of a doubt. I don't need a shadow of a
doubt. Okay, something about thisagave and this tea bag is tasting like

(51:54):
it tastes good, but it's thelemon of the tea and the agave I
might have too much in it.It tastes like a warm soda, a
warm flat soda, like the syrup. I'm not gonna tell y'all who gave
Denver. They's damn tea bags.She already got enough on her plate.

(52:15):
She already got enough on her plate. But uh, anyway, I'll tell
it. I'll tell you what ifyou want me to tell you where I
got these tea bags, call andleave us a message? Yeah, what
is it? Speakpipe dot com slashwere just like that. Yes, if
I get two or three people askingto know, I'll reveal, Well,
let's have a little fun today.So so Raina then comes into the cafeteria

(52:40):
praising Miranda. The notes stellar amatter of fact, you can send them
to my boss, the executive,so you can find us his email.
What does she say on outlook orwhatever? Again the sea, Yes,
Sloan and Serena are seething. Well, maybe if they weren't text to yeah
and focused on their work, maybethey would get to compliments like that too,

(53:04):
instead of sitting there being a littleassholes. Yeah, I imagine it's
so mundane though, if you're athirsty intern and you just you're just filing
what is it complaints all day orconsolidating paperwork all day and you don't want
to do and do that in frontof somebody who's genuinely just trying to do
a good job. That's work,I think, and that's probably why you're
still an intern doing grontwork. Thatnow, that is true you got a

(53:28):
nasty spirit about you. Because Mirandadidn't come in here vindictive or holicious.
She was cool. Y'all greeted hera good Yeah, it's very catty and
childlike, uh and taking notes.Honestly, I don't know if it's the
worker being me, but that wasone of my favorite aspects of my first
internship, sitting in the newsroom andseeing the reporters and producers and news directors.

(53:51):
We're from the bullpit and like,I'm oh, I loved it.
I loved it. But nevertheless,and it was by hand too. It
was my own little shorthand see,And I think that's why we work for
this show as I feel like yournotes are so detailed, like you're able
to walk through scene by scene withall of these like really intricate details,
and mine are just kind of like, yeah, so we got Charlotte Harry
in the kitchen, but no,I love that. But you also noticed,

(54:15):
like you, we watched the showin different ways because you bring up
outfits and I'll be like, Ithink I'm more invested in the emotions and
the storylines and you are as well, but you notice details. Look at
that, Yeah, so then weget what was that quote with Erica and

(54:36):
when she was like, you talktoo much shit and I talk about important
shit or something like that. Whosaid this Erica Jane to read I can't
remember season I do. I wasupset. Those are two of my face.
Yeah, a lot of people don'tlike to read. Now eric looks
and the makeup and the hair andstuff. Why can't wait for this upcoming?
We cannot wait? Which, bythe way, another Capricorn who with

(54:59):
divorce the capricorn and started leaving theirmates this quarter. Justin Trudeau. What
Justin Trudeau is separating from his wifetoday yesterday? He's a Capricorn him,
Tina Knowles, Ricky Martin. There'sa few like when I was going down
the little charts, a lot ofCapricorns are saying, I'm out of here.
Could think I'm on a Capricorn.Good thing. I got a man.

(55:22):
Nevertheless, so then we get,uh, now we're back at Charlotte's
work. Well, we're at Charlottegetting ready for work and she's hating how
she looks again, she's picking herselfapart. And that's just like one little
blip of the scene. Then weget Carrie and Aiden back at Chay's apartment
and they run into their neighbor again, Oh excuse me, it's not Carrie

(55:45):
and Aiden, it's Doug Brad andJane. Doug Brad and Channing m then
chase that Carrie's apartment, going throughall her stuff. She got eye patches,
they got eye patches on and sprayingfragrance, and and then they get
a phone call from the management ofthe building because now the neighbor has apparently

(56:06):
filed a complaint, which I mean, would you Well, these two things
running through my mind right now.One, I don't know if I would
want Ja Das roaming in my closet. No, I would want my medicine
cabinet, much like Lisa was protectiveof her closet. I part of me
thought Carrie would kind of be thesame way. Carrie is gone. I

(56:30):
told you that our sister is gone. My sister didn't burned too many bridges,
and there's nothing I can do forher. Now, speaking of that
closet, I saw on Twitter,and I forgot to tell you somebody was
questioning where the hell she's kept thatcoat. Oh yeah, this is when
our episode was fresh. Someone tweetedyou about that, and I was like,
see, Carrie Bradshaw has to havea storage unit. She has to,

(56:52):
but I also don't see her goingto it. But nevertheless, Jay
is having the time of their lifeand Area's apartment. Like I said,
they got on eye patches, theyspraying fragrance, they picking up heels,
and the management company calls questioning themabout Doug brad and Janning, which prompts
you to go do a pop up. Jay doesn't pop up. Funniest lines.

(57:13):
Management is concerned. Good thing you'rewhite. Well, oh you're don't
answer my question? Would you havereported this? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
you take your time one yeah,yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I
can't even try to make it allwarm and fuzzy. Absolutely, And I'll

(57:34):
tell you why. I've been inbuildings where I've had Airbnb units on my
floor, and it is very unnervingwhen you have just a bunch of random
people in and out of the floor. Right we're in LA. You know,
the building is five accessed. Alot of shit goes on, and
I just I like to know whomy neighbors are. It's a safety concern,

(57:57):
really, it can be. Imean not to sound Karen, but
I do have like an eighth ofKaren in me. Um, but it
can be, especially if you getpackages at your front door, like you
just you you truly never know.I don't want to sound like Karen either,
but it's like there's a security inknowing that, like Jim is weird
and Jim lives in that apartment.Correct, Correct? I mean you can't
choose your neighbors, no, butyou can't choose where you live. And

(58:22):
I think by choosing to live inbuildings that are security controlled and fob this
and you know, like those thingsmatter just to me, but too a
lot of people. And so whenthings start to to birth that where you
have tenants who may not have passedthe background check, they may be into
some unsavory things or whatever, youstart to kind of you really don't know
what's happening next door, and peopleare fucking crazy. So anything that I

(58:45):
can do to eliminate the crazy nearme. What's the guy's name, I'm
all for Milwaukee. What what's theguy's named? The blonde murderer guy?
Yeah, how you know that thatain't the airbnb? You know, like
Dahmer can't get qualified for an apartmentanywhere in the city, and so he
has to Airbnb because there's no backgroundchecks and he's in the next unit chopping
people exactly. And now you nisNash over there smelling stuff through the vent,

(59:08):
and that's kind of my my thing. I mean, you know,
you know what happened in where Ilive currently, Yes, things like that.
Oh god, I forgot all aboutthat that one time I came over
here and yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, pop my butt, pop,
pop my butt. Shut out hazily. No, we're taking it back.

(59:29):
Um. So then we get u. Chad meets Aidan and notices all
of the kitchen appliances and there's chiliand beer going on, which also is
not Carrie Bradshaw. That is notCary Bradshaw. Chili and beer. Well,
Aiden's cooking. I'm just watching babyand opening them beers. Very honeymoon

(59:53):
phase. I'm thinking about the firsttime Carrie went over there, when Lyle
was there, and how different theseare two different people. Yeah, these
are two totally different people that arein that kitchen, right, uh uh
huh. Chay is just observing Carrie'sgone carrying the honeymoon phase, and then

(01:00:15):
Chay asks, why did this notwork out the first time? Do you
think that was invasive, I asked, you know what, I don't because
that's something I would do. That'ssomething that is a question I would ask
without even like knowing aiden Yes,you'd ask them both and like, no,

(01:00:36):
okay, now, to be fair, that's something I would ask Carrie
herself, right, why when Igot her to a moment by herself because
they were all they were inseparable inthat apartment. Yeah, that's something when
Carrie come back to my job atthe Veterinarian at the Humane Society. You
guys are so cute the other night, Yes, okay, yes, I
would not ask that hammer like Iwould not because you don't know if the

(01:00:57):
story is bad. Yeah you don't, you know, but I want to
kill the mood. Carrie then respondsand says, because I've made a mistake.
Jesus fucking Christ, who, No, you didn't, John James Preston
is rolling over in his peloton,and I hate that she feels that way.
Yeah, yeah, I think.Do you think it might be one

(01:01:21):
of those sobering things with you knowwhat I can imagine because of course I'm
not in my fifties, but Ican imagine as you're reflecting over your life,
like how many years she gave thisman. Maybe she's realizing that Big
was not even though there were greatmoments, he ultimately was not good for
her. But it's so disrespectful justto your life and for all of the
years that you've lived, for everygood moment that you've had, they've been

(01:01:43):
in part because you were with thatman. Yea, that is true.
You know, whatever decision experiences thatshe's to basically like throw out or discount
a good portion of your life becauseyou are all of a sudden happy with
this man. Like it's so yeah, it's a big but to her,
Yeah, I agree, Like Igenuinely feel that way. I agree as

(01:02:04):
someone who's been in in situations.I'm not comparing anything to carry in big
or anything to you know, butas someone who's been in some yo yo
type situations with some people. Andwhen I say yo yo, I mean
like the toy, not like hiphop. I don't take away from the
good moments, it's just that thenot so good moments outweighed the good moments.
Yeah, I mean, I thinkI've been really portunate, Like I've

(01:02:24):
had really good relationships and like mylast one was it was great carry don't
have me turn into Seema on thepodcast. Well, but no, I
mean, and it comes up.I mean, I have been really portunate
to have some really really good lovesin my life right and my partner now
is the most exciting. Like Inever knew that I could love in this

(01:02:45):
way. It's the best version oflove that I've encountered in my life.
But I wouldn't know that, orI wouldn't be able to receive that,
or I wouldn't even be able toappreciate it had I not had a different
did the walk to say that thelove that I was in prior was bad,
it was also beautiful, just asdifferent. Like I said, it's

(01:03:05):
just different, and it's a differentfrequent as a mistake just because I didn't
work out. You need to sitdown with let's go to lunch with Kerry.
I want to. We can't dothat in the mouth. Oh you're
very What do you think, mama? Did you notice that when Carrie responded
and said, because I made amistake, Chay is thinking, yes,

(01:03:30):
they want that old thing back.Denver is getting his ass whooped over here
today. Baby. Uh, butthey are think king. So then our
next scene, we get which Ithought was hilarious because I've also been in
situations like this one, especially whenI was younger. But Charlotte and Anthony

(01:03:52):
are like siblings and they are havinga vent session that happens to be two
different conversations conversation. They're talking tothemselves on the phone. It's like they're
each other's teddy bears. Just toknow your presence is there. Because Anthony
is talking about Giuseppe, he hasrattled about Giuseppe, and Charlotte is complaining
about the changes to her body.Yeah, and they're having this full on,

(01:04:15):
very separate conversations together. There hasto be some sort of comfort there.
That's how I look at it,because neither one of them got off
the phone feeling unfulfilled, and that'sjust fine, get it out. He's
like, my food's here, youknow, these two Anthony and Charlotte's no.
I think that's a healthy relationship,even though it's kind of weird.

(01:04:36):
I did note that Charlotte is sippingher bone bra and she mentioned being a
gallerina. Everything that ends in enais tiny, like a ballerina. She's
really just spiraling with this, andI feel sad for her. You do
I do because I feel like it'sa lot of pressure. Yeah, it

(01:04:57):
is, especially under the patriarchy.You can watch. I'm excited for it
to hit streaming so i can watchit again too, he said, I
think no fall in the Fall.Yeah, you know, I never saw
the Mario Brothers movie and today today, Yeah, I'm gonna watch that.
And then I saw Guardians of theGalaxy is on Disney Plus the third one
something. Okay, M go backto this show. Here comes the moment

(01:05:21):
that I'm sure you all have beenwaiting for it. We're at Juan Jose's
salon and Seema and Carrie are gettingtheir hair washed next to each other.
But Carrie doesn't know. Seema onlyknows because she hears Carrie's voice. Seema
gets up and tries to leave.She's clearly avoided. And this is when
I knew it was deep for Seema. Yeah, Becauseema was not an avoidant

(01:05:43):
type of person. She is notof a very headstrong con But this is
all I'm going to deal with thisright now type of bit. I think
that the beauty in showing this aspectof her is again highlighting what I've been
saying since we started this show,and why I love and just like that
is it shows how people are multifacetedand multilayered. And also you never know
how you're going to respond to differenttriggers and stuff until you're confronted with them.

(01:06:08):
You know. That's a popular talkingpoint on the socials right now.
Are you healed or have you justnot been around your a trigger? You
know, Like that's why they sayit's a there's no destination. Healing is
an ellipsis absolutely so with that beingsaid, Carrie stops her and asks if
everything is okay because she hasn't heardfrom Seema at all. She've been texting,

(01:06:29):
calling, Sema hasn't responded. Semasays, in order for us to
have this conversation, I need acigarette, which I appreciated so much.
Yeah, because she didn't run fromthe conversation, which again, like I
thought about instances in my own lifewhere I've had to have difficult conversations.
I just was on the phone witha friend this past weekend telling them about

(01:06:49):
they're in a situation that I'm like, the only way to get over this
is to have a conversation with thisperson, and it's going to be uncomfortable.
Yeah, but I think that me, I can talk about that person
situation. But with me, Ithink I've gotten more comfortable with having uncomfortable
conversations because I'm uncomfortable. Before Ifeel like you could have a conversation about

(01:07:10):
anything, Well, it all depended, it all depended. And now it's
like, instead of letting things fester, I'm just gonna say it. I'm
not also going to be around peopleor situations that don't align with me as
far as like on a moral highground or how I feel I'm just not
doing I'm not stomaching that type ofstuff. And so I have always been

(01:07:30):
a bit confrontational, but there arecertain things like when I reflect on like
a former friendship that I had,it was like Shari, I think about
like four times I could have saidsomething about a behavior that was bugging me,
but I was enamored, you know, I was having a good time.
And then also Denver, before welaunch into this conversation, it's one
of those things where and I knowthat I've talked to you about this years

(01:07:56):
ago, where in my twenties andmy teens and growing up I was very
black and white, very rigid,and then as I've gotten older, in
conversations with peers and therapy, peopletalk about gray area and nuance, and
I think that sometimes clouds things forme where it's like sometimes I will situations
will be prolonged because I'm trying togive grace instead of being so black and

(01:08:17):
white in and out. Because lifeis full of great absolutely, but it's
one of those things. I wasjust with a friend yesterday and telling them
about something with somebody else that isa friend of mine. I consider this
person a peripheral friend, if youwill, And my friend was asking me
we are at lunch, and hewas asking me, like, why are
you giving this person grace? AndI was like, I just feel compelled

(01:08:39):
to because I know this person's backstoryfrom the top of the show is it's
a different conversation this it's kind ofits kind of sort of but I'm listen
to my point. So I'm like, I know this person's backstory, so
I'm giving grace. I know theirbackground and their upbringing. And my friend

(01:09:00):
what pinned me up against a whileas my friend said, okay, and
they know yours too, and that'snot stopping them from acting a certain way.
Hello, And I said, Inever thought so it's like, I
know, I got a bit ofa savior comp I don't know what it
is, but it's like, youknow, giving people I don't know,
I don't know. Like that reallyrattled me yesterday because I'm like, damn,
this person does know, you know, things that don't make me feel

(01:09:21):
good and aspects of my story andwhat I wouldn't agree with, and they're
moving as if they don't give aday, which I've fallen prey to.
And and this isn't me victimizing myself, but I've noticed this has been a
pattern for me. See I amdo I have a humiliation cake? What
is going on? No? No, never that, never that. Yeah,

(01:09:42):
I'm a little different because I likethe confrontational conversations jo I nearly enjoy
them, and I'm good at them. But I think getting older, I
just kind of need to take abeat to figure out what exactly it is
I'm trying to say, Because forme, I'll talk and I'll have the
confrontation from like a really, ifI'm angry, right, the conversation will

(01:10:04):
just come out of straight anger andit's not really that productive. But in
reality, if I just were tosit with it for a day longer.
I actually have a conversation about howhurt I am and this is why.
So that has kind of been mylesson in just typical conversations and navigating them.
Just take I have to take aYeah. So I thought that this

(01:10:24):
we're going to talk about this scenenow because I thought it was a beautiful
display of what friendship looks like.It's a beautiful like it won't always be
roses. But nevertheless, they gotaside for a chat, and I love
that Seema assures like Carrie is likeholding her breath, and Seema assures Carrie
that this convo is nothing catastrophic becauseCarrie's like caught off guard by this,
like, Okay, we are outside, it's raining, our hair is what

(01:10:45):
what are you about to tell me? She reveals that she's happy for Carrie,
but Carrie seemingly forgot about their Hampton'sgetaway trip, which Carrie did.
Carrie's gagged in this moment because shetotally forgot about that, and Seema was
just very transparent with saying she can'tbe a third wheel. It's not the
summer she signed up for. Carriethen says that she understands, but aiden

(01:11:09):
won't be there every week. NowI have question marks around this. Do
it? Let's go, because whenwere you planning on telling Seema that Aiden
was going to be there to beginwith, or asking the Hampton Summer conversation.
Yes, I gagged at that.I didn't I didn't understand that.
I thought that that was so inconsiderate, And so I have in my notes

(01:11:30):
also that she's not responsible. Carrieis not responsible for Seema's management of emotions.
But given the origins of the trip, she sounds inconsiderate because Siema has
laid out to you about feeling likea third wheel, and she's grateful.
Remember when they were planning this andshe proposed to carry. So Carrie knows
contexts, but she's so lost inthe sauce she's being inconsiderate, Like,

(01:11:53):
think about the origins of this tripcarry. I hear you, I hear
you. Believe I'm still on whatwe were just talking about. Carrie forgot
but then made excuse for Aiden tobe there, and all in the same
conversation, because which is very CarrieBradshaw. He's not going to be there,
Remember you're already planning on him beingthere. Yep. And then the
next line, Carrie says, youwill love him. Seema says, I'm

(01:12:14):
sure I will, but I won'tlove how I feel about myself when he's
there. I wrote that down towe're gonna leave y'all with some more dead
air sway wore me out, honest, self aware, honest, mature,
mature, I love mature. Umwow, yeah, and then she mentions

(01:12:41):
that carry your Carrie mentions as theywant to take Sema to dinner, and
Sema says, Carrie, you're alreadya wee, which was another red flag
for me. Here we are againrevisiting how fast Carrie is moving. Miranda's
talking about take a beat, Carrie. It opens up with Carrie about to
go to Virginia. She wants tomeet the boys. And I want to

(01:13:02):
remind everyone that's listening to this showthat it's only been about five weeks.
Okay, So that's why I saidthey own Chloe and Lamar time, because
it's only been about five weeks.And Seema says, you're already a wee
and um, Seema gets honest evenmore yes, And that's where we get
the other moment, like I ain'tgonna say it, but you have to

(01:13:23):
say it. Carrie's like, pleasejust say it, which I'm glad that
she encouraged Seema, because you wantwhen you have difficult conversations, you want
to lay it all out on thetable. You do. You never want
to leave and have anything stored up, because then it's gonna resurface in other
ways and then you're gonna look crazy. And to my point earlier, I

(01:13:44):
think that this is an example ofSeema taking a beat and figuring out what
conversation that she needs to have.Yeah, I feel like her talking points
and what she had to say,well, it came from such a place
of just security in terms of like, this is how I feel, this
is my personal boundary, this iswhere I'm comfortable. This is where I'm
not comfortable. And it wasn't necessarilyan attack on Carge. It wasn't you
did this, you did this,you did that, which matters when you're

(01:14:08):
yes, when you're having I don'tdo that anymore. I don't do that.
But I think because of that grayarea, because I'm like, I
think about one bad argument I've hadwithin the past, like a couple of
years, like post pandemic with someone, and I tried to be objective because
I was still so committed to givingthis person grace that I'm like, I

(01:14:29):
know I'm not perfect, which I'mnot, but I also knew that in
that situation, I was totally screwedover. No, my first reaction is
this is where you had me fuckedup? Yes, oh they knew what
they did. Then it's I feelbad and this is why, yes,
so and I And for me itwas like I missed the mark because I
and this isn't me blaming myself becauseI refused to do that. But as

(01:14:54):
far as like, sure, youcould have said something earlier, or you
could have walked away sooner. Soit's it's layered. Yeah, uh loved
this line. Seema says, fromeverything I've heard, this isn't to sound
petty or a pathetic carries like youwon't just say it, Seema says,
from everything I heard, it soundslike you've had these two great loves and
I've had none. And carried aboutto interject, but Seema says, don't

(01:15:15):
say I will because I might not, And I can live with that,
but I can't do this summer.Wait, but I can't do this summer.
I could, but I don't wantto back to your point. So
this part, I was like,who's been spying on me? Because one
of the and I might have evensaid it on this show, but one
of the realizations that I've come towithin the past two years, or one

(01:15:36):
of my challenges rather and this isfor the listeners because Denver already knows all
of this, but it's been mechallenging to kind of restructure the hierarchy of
relationships and who's informing that. Soit's like, for me, it's been
a challenge to restructure that romantic relationshipsare not the end all be all.

(01:15:58):
Like I live a very charmed life. I have very great I have friends
that people friendships and connections that peopleenvy that they can never have. I
also know people in shitty relationships.But because it's about me, it's like,
under the systems that the interlocking systemsthat this nation, this world has
me in, we are of courseconditioned to be like, oh, if
you're not in a romantic relationship,you ain't shit. Something's wrong and that's

(01:16:21):
not the truth or it's not alwaysthe truth, not at all. And
so I've been making peace, whichI thought was so funny with Seema saying
this because I'm like one of theI guess cruelest realities of this life is
no one has guaranteed romantic love.And I think it's one thing to accept
it. It's another thing to makepeace with it, because it's like,

(01:16:42):
God, I feel like I'm trippingover my words on today because okay,
so because the thing, it's like, I do believe that what I desire
also desires me. Like he's outthere. I do believe that. So
I don't want to make it seemlike I'm a Debbie down or my Charlotte,
my inner Charlotte is like he's outthere. I just got to trust
the timing of my life. It'llcome, I guess when it's supposed to
happen, with the timing of mylife with this you know, timeline of

(01:17:04):
my life, however, and theevent that it doesn't show up, I
need to be at peace with itnow because I also don't know how much
time I got left. And I'mof a very charmed life and I'm a
very happy woman. But I don'twant to be distracted by something that's beyond
my control, because you can't makenobody day chill, right. So it's

(01:17:26):
like I'm not. I refuse tobe distracted by something that is beyond my
understanding or control, and I'm notabout to change anything like So it's a
layer conversation with me. But thatline that Seema says where it's like she
can live with the entertaining the thoughtthat she may never have this some great
love of her life. And Ithink if more people entertain that, we
wouldn't be having all these toxic podcastsand trending topics every day because you're not

(01:17:49):
old a romantic relationship. I wantpeople to really sit with the realization,
yes it'll be interesting, you know, accept this earlier. Well, if
you read enough books. I feellike I got my information through conversations therapy
books, And it's really not thathard of appeal to swallow. If you

(01:18:10):
are a good person, you havegood people around you. True, like
I'm fulfilled platon like it would benice like I. But I also when
I tell you, I know thatthere are people that envy my platonic relationships
because they just don't have that.They don't have that, But it's not
about them, It's about me.And yes, I want romance, but
it's also beyond my control. Sowhy waste time, twiddling my thumbs,

(01:18:32):
changing myself own treadmills, doing this, doing that. When there's a like,
well, I shouldn't say a likelihood. There's a chance. Come on,
there's a chance that it may not. And I'm okay, I'm at
peace with that. I haven't acceptedit, but I'm at peace with it
because I still want to baby,I'm still manifesting. Um. So yeah,

(01:18:57):
carry Carrie pulls out. She's like, I just I don't want to
spend a fortune on this house,having this feeling. And I'm I don't
want you losing money. Carrie's like, I'm not worried about losing money.
I'm worried about losing you, whichwe knew, which they both got money.
But again, I do love thefact that Seema already just made moves.
Yeah, I wouldn't do just likehow she got the house and just

(01:19:23):
flattered Carrie, like, what doyou think about this one? Like?
This was um and so Seema needsspace, Carrie objects. I love this
line too. You know what spacegives friends more space? And that's real,
it's true, that's real, it'strue. That's why I like to
have the conversation because if you don'tYeah, longer it goes, the more
awkward to get and the more becausepeople, we all people didn't create stories

(01:19:46):
and then apply it as to whyyou distant and white? Like yeah,
yeah, um but Sema, shesays, Sema, please don't pull away.
Seema assures Carry that they will befine. She just needs some space,
which also speaks to that boundary.I believe her, I do think
at this point did you believe her? At this point? Did I believe
her? I did? I didwhen I think back with the episode,

(01:20:11):
I did only because but the finedoesn't mean the same. And there are
friends that you take some space from, yeah, and when you get back
together, it's just different. Imean, don't you find that with most
interactions if there's a difficult like,things don't go back to what they want
were because now there's a heightened awarenessof you can't do that anymore. Yeah.

(01:20:35):
But then what is fine? Becausefine to me is it's very vague.
Yeah, So to be fine,it's like, but don't you think
that's contingent on carry? No?Because I mean I think that Sena was
already dealing with some internalize stuff,so I don't think she would approach carry
the same way knowing that Carrie canget so aloot with the man and I
might lose my friend, you knowwhat I mean? Like, I just
but the reason why I say it'scontingent on carry because it's I feel like,

(01:20:57):
because Carrie now has a new additionto her life, it's incumbent on
her to keep up with her friendships. Not saying that Seema shouldn't put an
equal effort, but if I can'thave a moment with Carrie by herself without
this new we then maybe we doneed some space. Yeah, but then
it's different because Carrie's perspective on thethings that we enjoy and talk about,
it's it's going to be shifted oraltered by the fact that she now has
you know what I'm saying, Like, it's never going to be the same.

(01:21:20):
Wow, we talk about this forhours. Gona be a whole different
show. Let us know, ofcourse, let us know what you all
think. We love different perspectives.And it's not necessarily a bad thing.
It's just different, exactly and dynamic. And I think that that's the mature
take. It's not a bad thing. Yeah, it's just different right speakpipe

(01:21:42):
dot com slash. We're just likethat again speak pipe dot com slash We're
just like that. Let me tellthem the last friend I gave space.
We're still giving each other space.Yeah, I gave a friend some space.
Now it was three years ago.See mine was years ago, and
then there was a reconnect and thensomething happened and I gave them space at

(01:22:08):
the top of this summer. AndI have not seen them since the top
of this summer, and we've talkedlike maybe once a month, so it's
like but there was already space there. So it was like, I'll tell
you off air. I mean,in part of me hates when this happens
because I feel like the more spaceyou take back, the more you start
to look at people and you startto notice things you didn't really notice before,

(01:22:28):
and that just creates an entire differencethat also does you favor. That's
a that's a blessing true. Imean, depends on how you look at
it depends on and every situation isso different. That's why we're talking in
circles with making these points. I'mthinking about like twelve different then and I
did do this at this one person, but then this bitch has to go
like you so sorry, if thisshow seems a bit more ramply than usual,

(01:22:53):
it's just it's yeah, you aregetting a lot of tangents today.
But we just like the characters ofthis show. We know we ain't the
only ones having these conversations or goingthrough these things. That's why we want
to hear from y'all. Moving on, so we get back to what Charlotte
in the closet. Yeah, shapewear, Baby Charlotte is putting on every pair
of skims and spanks. I waswaiting for like a bona fide full skins.

(01:23:15):
Cameo, Oh yeah, I mean, if they're doing product placement for
Pattern Beauty, you know what ltI was prepared. I don't see how
Kristin Davis, the actress who playsCharlotte, did this. I hope that
they were just regular shorts that shewas putting off because the shapewear is abusive.
It can be, especially when youlayer it. Um take it to
someone who has layered it before.Hey, sometimes the dress calls for,

(01:23:40):
you know, shout out to powerMan show whatever she calls it. Oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, umgosh, I keep getting lost in my
notes. So Anthony, so wesee her getting ready in the shortness of
breath, she doesn't give Lillian rocka hugs. They're confused. They're like,
do you have a sword throw?She's like, no, I just
Mabbie has to go to work.So then we're back at the bakery.

(01:24:00):
Anthony is suggesting that Lorraine gets help. Loraine is gone back on the line
again. Loraine is stay, shewon't hus some Giseeppe okay, and then
gi Zeppie appears, Yes he does, and he wants clarification on that firing
text. It's crazy. It's nothis first language. It's not his first
He was reading, you know,he was, Gizeppie was reading. Anthony

(01:24:23):
is so serious about getting him upout of here, like Athne's so serious
that he's given this man a month'ssalary and a very generous bonus. Yeah,
but he kept it real as towhy. So we're gonna get to
that. I say, he wantshim gone. Gieseppe ends up asking Anthony
what his issues are because he pointsout that point of that part of the
text, and you're right, hedoes keep it real. He explains that

(01:24:44):
he cannot work well, he said. He explains that he can work with
straight Giseeppe, which I thought thatthis was interesting because most of mine,
well, yeah, i'd say mostof my gay friends are like this when
it comes to like, oh he'sstraight, like they're it's a grossness that
comes with straight men. I wouldn'tsay it's a grossness, but it's of
like I can't do anything with it. Yeah, you know, I can

(01:25:06):
admire maybe, but like I'm notgoing to pursue. No, it's a
waste of time. Yeah, likeit's not it's not for me. But
there are others that totally overlook that. And so he says that he can't
he can work with straight Giseeppe,but he can't work next to a gorgeous,
sweet, hot, way too youngItalian from Italy with a huge heart.

(01:25:31):
So are none of the other whatdo they call good fellas hot fell
fellas gay and hot? But Ithink he was turned off by with them
being juice heads, all of them. I don't know. I don't know
either. I think there's a gentlenessof sweetness that comes with Gizeppie that the
others just and I get that becausethere's no way that Anthony's whole payroll was

(01:25:54):
assists heat men. No way inhill. I don't think so, so
just fire them all. I guess, well, he was very h and
I put in my notes come onself awareness. And then Giuseppe shoves his
tongue down Anthony's throat and says,I quit. It's good for him Anthony,
not GJISEPPI, because now he's backto making poet money and that ain't

(01:26:15):
good. Yeah, maybe or maybenot right? Maybe not? Maybe you
can take Rock's place on the RalphFlord campaign. My god. So then
we get Charlotte arriving at work,feeling gravely and secure. She removes the
belt, the pink belt altogether,and adjusts her coat, like Charlotte is
so uncomfortable, and to be fair, when she took the belt off,

(01:26:36):
I was like, oh it did? It looks better with the coat.
I was like, okay, youshould have done this a long time ago.
That's when she meets Anastasia and Kaiand Leela arrives and Leila is the
answer to Charlotte's prayers her visibility.So I have here in my notes,

(01:26:56):
is this one of those good thingsor a bad thing Leila? Because I
think, yeah, I think it'sone of those things you could take away
from it, what you take awayfrom it, Like I think, on
looking at it through one lens,it's, oh, I'm comfortable in my
size because there's a bigger girl here, so I'm not the biggest one in
the room. You can read itlike that, or it's oh, all
sizes are represented here. I feelcomfortable. Let me just say that took

(01:27:17):
it as the ladder. Knowing Charlotte, she probably took it as the ladder.
Well, I was kind of confusedbecause I could definitely see how people
would take it. The first one. God, she came down the stairs
and she's obviously a fuller figured womanand so mid section now. And as
soon as she did that, Charlotte, you know, take can I take
off my coat? I'm still comfortable? And you wonder is that kind of
problematic not to be that person?No, I see, I didn't think

(01:27:41):
about that until you plan at thedamn Sea. Well, Twitter has fucked
up my brain. Same. SoI did laugh at this line though,
because this is definitely something that Iwould say. When Leila turns to Charlotte
and says, Charlotte, Charlotte's Webbis my favorite book. So I always
like people named shar of course thatis like, yeah, that sounds like
some some Sometimes my mouth moves fasterthan my brain all the time, and

(01:28:05):
that's oh yes, it does dragme. Um so, but I didn't
make note that. Leela tells Charlotte, come on in, girl, make
yourself comfortable. Then in the nextscene we get Charlotte in the bathroom.
She has removed her shape where andshe's comfortable in her skin, cozy with

(01:28:26):
who she is. I liked thisscene. I did too. I'm glad.
As soon as I thought, girl, you're gonna throw that away,
she grabbed that one back. Imean everybody. I don't want to say
everybody needs one piece of shape whereit was shape where it can make or
breaking outfit. I don't care whatsize the outfit is. It can make
or breaking outfit, clean lines,clean lines, smoothing, yes, yes,

(01:28:47):
yes. Um So. Then weget Miranda. She said work and
she's double checking her notes when shenotices that's Serena. When I guess when
she was translating in, Serena leftapart out ye and Miranda caught it.
I guess you're just perfect, Miranda. And then the funniest line of the

(01:29:08):
whole episode did you write it down. Actually, I'm a sexually confused alcoholic
who's in the midst of a divorce. See, and this is why I
love you. Because my note forthat Miranda dumps all her ship. Well
that's when Sloan was like, oh, that's my cue to get like it
is time to go. Cynthia's deliveryof that line, it was perfect.

(01:29:30):
And then the next line, ofcourse that she says when when Raina comes
out and I'm not skipping ahead,but when she apologizes about the compost,
I'm really trying. It's a newworld. This office culture is different.
So um. From there, Rainatells Miranda to go home, and Miranda
is gag because she can't stay aftersix pm. They're getting big trouble.

(01:29:53):
Miranda's like, oh, I'm notin Kansas anymore, honey. She tells
her to go, but before sheleaves, she Miranda know that maternity leave
is coming and it starts Monday.Now I missed that the first because you
know, I watch the episode twice. The first time I watched, I
miss that it's starting Monday. Howdare you? That's now that's a little
unfair to Miranda, you think,But because it's Miranda, she'll be just

(01:30:15):
fine. I don't think she expectedMiranda to be so good. Yeah,
well, she tells her the maternitystarts on Monday. Basically her her labor
is being induced and she has chosenMiranda to be her cover. The Miranda
feels bad and mentions her privilege.But this angle was rooted in identity politics,

(01:30:36):
which I thought was interesting. Yeah, and Randa tells Miranda that girl,
it ain't it's it's not that,it's the resume. That's why you
have this. Yeah, you goodat what you do. You've been doing
this longer than they've been alive.Basically, it just reminds me of you
know, and this isn't to takeaway, but you know, very well

(01:30:58):
meaning white women and how sometimes youknow, it's always great to be self
aware of your privileges, for sure, But Miranda makes sense in this scene,
like makes sense. Well, Icould definitely feel how Miranda would be
weird about it. I mean,yeah, yeah, she was treated and
to be fair, like, yes, you have thirty years experience in law,
but you don't have thirty years experiencehere. True, and it would

(01:31:20):
be different, it would have beentotally different dynamic if Miranda was not brought
in as a peer intern. Ifshe was brought in, and it was
established from day one that she isbeing trained for Sloan's replacement, because who
was going to replace Sloan? Imean not Sloan. Excuse me, Raina.
Well, they hadn't planned on itbecause the maternity leade wasn't supposed to
happen. Whch is getting induced onMonday? And so I wonder how this

(01:31:43):
is going to affect workplace culture withMiranda being the boss of Sloan and Serena
really have two more episodes, sowe might not even see it, well
we might not, but it's justlike they've had not mess up they internship
being Caddy and trying to mess upMiranda's reports and stuff. But I did
appreciate what's her name, Raina forjust laying it out there. Yeah,
she's like, girl, don't worry. He's so serious right now. Um,

(01:32:06):
because at first Miranda like objected toit, like I guess she's like,
guys, where are you about togo? So then, um,
it's dinner time. Yeah, yes, it's dinner time, and it's dinner
with Aiden and Sima. Eight eight. He was having conversations he was all
bubbly. He knows them like hewas a homegirl. Yeah, he knows

(01:32:28):
them, absolutely, he know.And something tells me Aiden loves lunchtime mess.
It's a good carry because the wayhe just kind of seamlessly blended into
that table, I was like,oh, John James Preston could never,
could never, and Charlotte never likedthe man. So it's um eight sema
eight. She ends up showing upand I was like, oh, because
her and Carry are communicating non verbally, but then she said something. She

(01:32:54):
said, thanks for the space.Almost lost it. It's like a little
dumb shit like that that always makesme emotional, but I almost lost it.
So this made me take a heartlook in the mirror. Really and
I'm going to tell you why.Oh, let's just end this because then
Carrie's packing up. She grabs abook which I thought was Howard's Ends.

(01:33:15):
It was not Okay, well Idon't think it was, wasn't Well apparently
it's not a book, so Idon't know. I think it's a book
and a movie. Maybe it is. Maybe she did grab it, but
she says and just like that,wait and just like that, Oh,
I've got a typo it happens,it saysn't just like that to Aiden's farm.
I think that's what it is,And just like that, I'm off

(01:33:36):
to Aiden's farm. It wasn't Howard'send. It was better. It was
our new beginning. So the reasonwhy that scene now we can, we
can rewind. So this would mademe take a heart look in the mirror,
because, in all honesty, ifI were carry in that situation and
had that conversation with Seema, Iknow, and you know what, this

(01:33:58):
has been a lesson for me withinthe last few years as far as trusting
my instinct, trusting my gut,because I I my mind was being too
flooded because I was taking too manytrusted opinions. But you know, when
you get a second opinion from afriend, sometimes it can add a different
dynamic or a different layer. Andso I was thinking to myself, had
Seema said that to me in thatvery raw, honest moment, I probably

(01:34:21):
would have talked about that with afriend, and that might have altered how
I would have interacted with Seema withthe space especially, And that's why I
veered away from the hater word,because I'm imagining calling a friend and being
like, Hey, so my homegirl, Like I really like her, and
she says that she just needs somespace, and it's kind of like da

(01:34:42):
da da da da. I couldsee someone planting a seed. Not anyone
in my personal life, but I'msaying I can see it happening with someone
being like girl, she sounds likea hater. You can't be around people
like that, and I'm not ana new relationship. And then that with
then color how I interact, Likeso for me, this spoke, she
like, sometimes when there's hiccups withfriends, it's an a B conversation.

(01:35:05):
Well, I mean, let meclarify, because that's a hate friend at
the table in the very beginning.Okay, I genuinely did. But then
when she had the conversation she intendedto have, and I realized, oh,
she was just processing things kind ofin a real loud and real time,
real time, and what she theplace she landed was nowhere near being
a hater friend. In fact,it was like, send me some friend

(01:35:29):
that you could you could have.Yeah, right, she was. You
know it's not you I need space, I don't. It was about her,
yeah, And so no, shewas never the hater friend. Yeah,
Okay, I see, okay,but that's what I thought, that's
where I thought we were going.You got a man, she's gonna be
different. And you know, yeah, if you just shifted it, because
that's so common, right, Butbut I mean it's also she's got a

(01:35:49):
man, she's going to be different. But I'm reacting to it so and
and and I think that that that'sthe knee jerk reaction because oftentimes people do
you get a new relationships, andthey don't nurture their platonic relationships. Then
if something goes wrong in the romanticrelationship, you're looking for the platonic relationship
that you put on the shelf tohold you up and dry your tears.

(01:36:11):
Like that's a tale as old astime. Yea. No matter what community
you're a part of, people dotend to do things like that, as
if they can't multitask and still goto lunch with the girls on Saturday and
then be all up under that manevery other day, every other time,
you know. But people make timefor what they want to. So that's
what it boils down to. Andthen you throw in different dynamics like because

(01:36:31):
you know, I date men,my partners a man yeah, so we
often have the same friends yea together, but sometimes you know, he doesn't
have friends that really aren't that closeto me, which is healthy. But
I'm the person who I like myclose friends are kind of like family.
So it's like everybody together because I'mlike, yeah, my friends are your
like, I don't do that.Still, don't you think it's still healthy
to have your own friends. Yeah, I'm people to talk to you outside

(01:36:55):
of Yeah, if you do oneof them or you know whatever, by
all means do what you need todo. Don't make me look crazy,
right, So that that part didmake me look in the mirror, and
it wasn't a hard look in themirror, but it was like, damn
Carrie, like really, I guesshonored space and kept that between she and
Seema and they were able to justmove on. Maybe that's a sign of

(01:37:15):
maturity because, like I said,I something happened along the way where I
stopped trusting myself. And I wroteabout this in my essay when I turned
thirty three. If you all wantto read it, it's on my medium
account. I can't remember the title. It's Emotional Recourse and Resurrection. What
my Jesus you're taught me, butsomething happened along the way where I learned

(01:37:39):
to not trust myself or trust myintuition. And that's how that trusted friend
group type thing. And there's nothingwrong with that, but you still need
to just ultimately make your own decisions. It's your life. So there's nothing
wrong with consulting friends. But youalso don't need to consult all of your
friends because then you're gonna be itsence you spiraling even further because now you've
got twelve additional opinions. Have youthought about this way? And do you

(01:38:00):
know? Like so yeah, yeah, see I don't consult friends about other
people. I just consult them aboutme. Well, no, it is
about me. But it's like situations. Yeah, but it's am I.
It's hard to explain. Okay,I'm hard to explain, but I'll do
my best. Like if I'm goingthrough something with a friend, like I
don't go to another friend and explainthe situation that's going on with a friend.
It's I'm having this reaction to thisparticular thing, like you know,

(01:38:25):
it's my reaction doesn't make sense Okay, yes, yes it does, Yes
it does. And see I'm someonewho will go I don't always name drop,
but I will say I'm having youknow, there's something that popped up.
Should have been like I felt this. I've of course done this with

(01:38:46):
you where I've been like you know, she said this, and I was
like, like, you know,to get like an additional perspect I do
think additional perspectives are healthy. Butif you do not trust yourself, or
if that trust and intuition is rocky, it can be a slippery slot.
I know, it's usually like thishappened to me, this is now reacted?
Did I go too far? Yeah? And you gotta you can't be
afraid to make mistakes. They're inevitable. They are part of life. You

(01:39:09):
have to make your own choices.Hello. So with that being said,
next week, I think it's nextweek our Samantha cameo. Is that why
Charlotte was teasing us with the picturethis? Uh? This episode? Well,
they said the Samantha cameo was afinale. Oh it's a finale,
that's what I heard. Oh,well maybe we're getting bread crumbs maybe with

(01:39:30):
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This episode is like two hours.
It's fine. There was a lotto cover, it was and a lot
of and I have at the end, I think this might be my favorite
episode of the season so far.I was about to say so far,
um, trying to think, gosh, there's been so much information. It

(01:39:53):
wasn't really that fun per se.Yeah, but it was very honest,
it was very real. It wasvery um. I think we got to
see a lot of people differently episode. I agree, we we were fans
this week, you know. Iagree. I think it highlighted she got

(01:40:13):
back to her normal self, youknow, Charlotte was dealing with her you
know. Yeah, I guess thiswas the episode that othered everyone or it
showed the full spectrum of of personality. Yeah. I liked and I appreciate
the carry and seem a moment.That was the highlight for me. I
agree, that was that was ahighlight. Like what an example to take

(01:40:34):
with you say it like you meanyes. And with that being said,
thank you all for joining us foranother episode of we see Oh We're just
like that up her titles, thankyou all for joining us for another episode
of Weird just like that the podcastthe unofficial aftershow of Max's original series,

(01:40:57):
And just like that, I guesswe've ran for so long. Bye.
Y'all. We'll talk to y'all nextFriday.

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