June 8, 2025 • 49 mins
There’s no better way to set up this week’s episode other than labeling it ‘as classic as they come’ because Seema’s dating life is at a standstill, Miranda is (really) trying, Charlotte is crashing out, LTW is managing, and Carrie’s garden could use some retooling. SEND HELP!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, Hey, it's Shar Hey, this is Denver, and We're
just like that. Welcome to the unofficial recap podcast for
Max's original series. And just like that, we're so excited Denver.
So you're ready, I'm ready, all right, so let's get
things started. Hey everyone, and welcome to another episode of
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We're Just like That. Now, what you'll notice about this
week's episode is Denver unfortunately could not make it. Listen.
There's a lot going on right now. It's Pride month.
He's traveling, I'm traveling, and so in order to honor
our recording schedule and get you all out an episode,
it'll just be me, Shar Jasel, your other co host,
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flying solo, and I'm so excited to dive into season three,
episode two, the rat Race. I should know Denver will
be back next week. He will, so everybody calm down
before we get started. I do want to play one
of the one of my favorite callers. I have to say,
Marvelous is back. We have a speak pipe and so
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we're gonna take a listen and then react high.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Denver, Hi, shar Marvelous is back. It's spent almost two
years and I missed you both terribly so let's get
to it now. Sister Mary the Virgin was a thirsty
nigga and she fucked a shit out of Miranda with
that good strap energy. Y'all know Rosie is very much
so butcher and she will fix your car. Okay, she
got a sturdy gait. She want nobody's pillow. Princess Miranda
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was being mean by not responding to her. If you
don't like her, just block her, get her closer to
what she wants and needs. Okay. Now Charlotte is giving
me camp. She's giving me nerdy. Her and Miranda are
just not cool anymore of their moms and something happens
when you're a mom. Just not cool no more. And
it's okay, Okay, y'all want to see her cut up,
y'all see her Bebrooke on Nauro's place. Now, that was
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a twisted bitch, Carrie. You playing a dangerous game. Five
boo five years. If you're gonna give him five years,
you need to be fucking other man. Don't be stupid.
He's playing a twisted game, a twisted get back mesh
for that broken engagement and her cheating on him. Keep
a watch on him. Pull a Bunion, Lisa Todd Wexley.
If you don't want Herbert Pitch, I will take him now.
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I woke up when he was singing Okay, that man
was in Hamilton and it was a little boring on
the first watch. But when I woke up, I said,
oh my god, who is that? Okay Macod Brooks. Now,
y'all know he's for the boys the girls at the dolls. Now,
if you know, you know shadow tags, she's playing a
dangerous game and he's gonna do the licky lick. Keep
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a watch on him. I'll be back, y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Love you, and again, thank you for marvelous. We can
always count on you to give us a comprehensive breakdown. Now,
those of you listening, if you want to let your
voice be heard, be sure to head over to speakpipe
dot com slash. We're just like that, Denver and I
love hearing from you all. So that's how you can
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let us know how you're feeling, how you're doing, and
your thoughts on the episode. Now, I must say I
enjoyed episode two way more than I enjoyed the premiere.
Oh my gosh, this episode was fun. I didn't it
didn't feel like homework to rewatch it. I thought that
the writing was funny and poetic and we're gonna get
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all into it. But I do want to remind you
all to like, subscribe and share, tell a friend about
the show. We're doing good things over here. I also
have to acknowledge that twenty seven years ago this past week,
Sex and the City premiered the show Our Show, Our
Baby SATC. The origin is almost thirty years old. That's
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kind of crazy. Also Remarvelous noted that you know Herbert
was a Broadway star, and I have to shout out Pamela,
who DMed me on Instagram and was kind of like,
shar girl. You don't know who Christopher Jackson is. He's
part of the original cast of Hamilton, and honestly I
did not know because listen, guys, I enjoy musical or two,
(04:04):
I could not. I didn't get a chance to see
Hamilton live and I know that it's available on Disney Plus,
but for whatever reason, I could not get into it.
So now I'm inspired. I don't know if the original
cast is what's on Disney Plus, but I'm inspired to
really buckle down, sit down and see what Lynn mil
Menuel Miranda, you know, has got to say to us
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about Hamilton, because when my friends tried to show it
to me a few years ago, I just couldn't connect
with it. I struggled to connect with it. So I
will check that out and shout out to you, Pamela. Also,
I should note that the crazy Karen from last week's
episode who accosted Charlotte in Central Park about the dog
I saw on a Sex and the City fan page,
that that same actress is the woman who threw the
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red paint on Samantha in Sex and the City the movie.
Remember Samantha had on the white fur coat and a
woman comes and throws red paint on her and says
her is murder, murder, and then Samantha's like, God, I
miss New York. So allegedly that's the same actress and
she plays crazy so well, So shout shout out to her.
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I also final shout out before we dive into the
episode Kristin Davis, and I'll talk to Denver about this later.
Kristin Davis, girl, you are knocking it out the part.
Kristin Davis. For those of you who don't know, she's
the actress who plays Charlotte York, Golden blat on it
just like that. She had Lena Waithe on her show
and Meghan v. Stallion. That was a fun episode. I
didn't get a chance to listen to Lena's but I
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listened to Megan because you know, Meghan's been making her rounds.
She's kind of a new Sex in the City fan,
and it was just fun to listen to one of
my favorite rappers speak to one of my favorite, you know,
TV character actresses. So if you all are not listening
to Kristin Davis's podcast, are you a Charlotte and you
are a Sex and the City fan, or you want
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to know what's going on behind the scenes within just
like that costume design and things of that nature. Check
that out. I encourage you to check that out. I
just wish that the visual aid was uploaded at the
same time as the audio, but that's not the case.
So you gotta find it wherever you get your podcasts,
because I don't know if it's you're gonna find it
on the YouTube. But nonetheless, now that we got all
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of that out the way, let's start with the episode.
So this episode opens up, I gotta say, carry looked
amazing in this blue Hello somebody, blue glittery shoulder padded dress,
like crossing that street, I was like, this is what
I watched this show for. She looked amazing. And she's
headed to meetless Set at a bar where they both
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of them end up catching up with what's going on
in their lives. I have to say, it's nice to
see lis Set. I like that she's woven into this
story and she's managed to last, you know, three seasons.
And while they're catching up, Carrie refers to her house.
She says, the Grammercy House, and she talks about all
of its history. We learned that this house was built
in the eighteen forties, and she loves the history of
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her house and enjoys picking all of the women that
have lived there before her. And this makes me wonder
as I'm listening to Carrie talk about this is and
this question kind of gets answered later on in the episode,
but like, is this house the main inspiration behind whatever
this book is that Carrie is writing, Especially since this
season we have noted that she's speaking in third person.
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We're not getting like those classic and just like that taglines,
she's speaking in third person. So then Lisette goes on
a rant about the dating pool. Now you know Denver
is partnered, I am still a single Sally out here,
you know, shout out to Sema. You know she was
singing my song this episode for Lisette goes on a
rant about the dating pool and she says, you know,
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my phone is who I'm in a relationship with. You're
so lucky that you met Aiden before this list. That
sounds like me talking to some of my friends and
family who met their partners prior to all of the
crap that those of us that are single and that
might be looking looking for love. Because admit, I'm not
always looking for love. I gotta you all. I have
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to compartmentalize my life, and I gotta do that in spurts. Okay,
it won't always be. I don't have the energy to
always look for it, but sometimes, you know. I should
also note that I've sworn off dating apps. Oh my god,
I haven't been on dating apps in maybe three years now.
I just refuse to get on another one. I think
it's a very particular personality, especially as a woman who's
looking for romantic interactions with a man. It's a very
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specific personality that is on the apps. And I just
had two cousins get married, well, one is engaged to
be married and the other just got married, and both
of them met their partners on dating apps. But they
also are not on the West Coast or the East
coast or like you know that, like they're down south.
So I also think the culture is a bit different.
I'm not sure those of you who know the no
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let us know it speakpipe dot com slash, we're just
like that. Let me know your thoughts on dating apps.
I've sworn them off personally. I am looking forward to
a meet cute. Okay, I want to be at Costco
getting you know, my chips or you know, a bag
of romaine and look up and I lock eyes with
with mister Wright. But nevertheless, so Lisette gets so frustrated
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that she ends up chucking her phone across the bar.
Now this was odd to me because who does it?
And it's not generational, right, So I want to know
it doesn't matter if you're gen Z, millennial, gen X,
Boom or what have you. Anyone that chucks their phone
across the room, your immediate reaction is to go get it.
So the fact that she's in this crowded bar, she
chucks her phone across the room and apparently we don't
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see it, but we hear it, right, we hear this.
She assaults, the phone hits somebody, and she's just like whatever.
I was like, Okay, that's not realistic. That's not realistic
because dating apps, aside our phones, for many of us,
are our lifelines. Like without your phone, you just feel naked.
You feel naked. So Lisette reveals that she invited carry
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Out to drinks because she has a gift for her,
and she presents Carrie with what I thought was so beautiful,
like this homemade chain link. You all know lis sat
as a jewelry designer, like this chainley key chain that
has two four or five on it, the numbers two
four five, and that's a tribute to Carrie's old address,
two forty five East seventy third Street. I thought that
was a thoughtful, fun gift. And who doesn't like guests.
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But that's when the victim of the phone throwing comes
up to the ladies, the guy who got hit, and
he gives list at her phone back and offers to
buy them drinks. I thought that was a cute little
opener episode. I mean, excuse me, opening scene to the episode,
and then we get the next scene where we get
as I call them, Lucy and Ethel Honey, LTW and Charlotte.
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They're leaving the school that their kids attend. When they
overhear Ainsley, who's I guess one of the moms, and
some other moms and they're discussing college admission consultants and
this woman named Lois Fingerhood aka the Finger aka the
Ivy Whisperer. She's brought up. But the ladies are very
very tight lipped about this, and they end up lying
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to Law and Charlotte like, oh hey, girl, you know
it's a nice day to day. Charlotte and LTW are
so flustered by this that they end up barging into
Principal Greg's office to tell him what's going on. Now
this I love this scene because Principal Greg put on
his tactical gear. Honey. He didn't know what was going on,
but he was ready to go out there and I
guess fight the good fight. I'm not sure, but he
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did it. Of course because of how dramatic they were
when they burst into his office, and as he noted,
you got the big Charlotte eyes. Like, y'all know, Charlotte
does a lot, right, she does a lot. And so
they also bring up this other college recruiters name this
woman named Debbie. And Debbie is good at her job,
she's fine, but she's no Lois. Lois has managed to
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get nine kids into Princeton and I guess that, like
when their main complaint to the principal a I guess
they have very specific recruiters through the school that they
use for college admissions. And Lois Fingerhood aka the Finger
you know, she's out of this network. They were going
to go tell but it's like, can the principal intervene
in that way? That's like a matter that has nothing
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to do with him. It's interesting. Then we jump to
the next scene, Carries in her backyard. Now, this scene, y'all, y'all,
this scene almost made me turn off the episode. Carries
in her backyard of the Grammercy House, her home. She
has her MacBook and a cup of coffee. It's a
very romanticize, Like you all know that. I love stuff
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like this. It's like poetry in motion. It's beautiful. The colors,
the just ugh, the little table, I just I love it.
It's like a painting in motion, and we hear more
of her writing about this woman. You know, she's working
on some writing and again in the third person, which
I'm gonna keep reiterating, she's getting some writing done, and
she's romanticizing the moment. It is so pretty in her backyard,
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like I said, almost like a fairy tale. She's giggling,
there's birds chirping, a squirrel comes by to say hi
on the branch. Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
Oh my god, oh my god, a gang of rats
run from a bush towards carrie feet. Carrie's feet, excuse me.
And you know she understandably freaks out. Who wouldn't freak out? Now,
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what I tipped my hat to her for is that
she had sense enough to grab her laptop, because the
way shar Jossela is set up is all of that
shit would have been left there. I don't do rodents.
This was one of the most New York City scenes
that I've ever seen depicted on script at TV, and
I have a deep fear for rodents, and like I said,
almost turned the episode off. It made me cringe and
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squirm so hard. I just couldn't do it this squeaking,
and they were in a gang. It's bad enough when
there's one. And I should mention that we also have
issues like this in Los Angeles. We are not, you know,
the bee's knees, but it's not as bad as New York.
And you know, some of you all may take offense
to this, and that's okay. I frequent New York. I
have a family that lives there. You all know. I
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pop my head into the Tammer and Hall show in
the view and like that's where all my good talk
shows are. And the last time I went to New
York was year ago. I was there for a Memorial
Day and I spent three days in New York and
then from New York, I went to d C. And
what I gagged at is that I did not see
not one rat during my New York trip last year.
But oh my god, when I went to d C,
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that was my first time in d C. When I
tell you, they were everywhere, veryware, to the point where
I would be leaving an event or leaving the club
and I'm in my uber and we're at a red
light and I see something move out of my peripheral
and they're just everywhere. They're scaling people's fences, They're at
the front doors like you know of like the nice
you know, the good two two seven Brownstones, like they
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were everywhere. And I was like, what is DC doing
about this? They're every I'm like, I'm cringing. I'm cringing.
So I just want to note that that is not
a New York, you know specific like d C was
by far worse than New York, at least the last
time I was out on the East Coast and I
explored those two cities. But again I tipped my hat
to carry and the screaming, and she managed to run
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up that spiral staircase and she didn't trip. Okay, hello
and heels and stilettos. We get our next scene. You know, Miranda,
she's at work in the breakroom making herself a cup
of tea and her younger colleagues are watching this show
on their phone and it's called by Bingo and it's
very similar if you all watch the episode, it's very
similar to a Love Island type show. But Miranda's interest
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is peaked. Then we hop to the next scene. Her
Nesto is working on Carrie's backyard. This is who she called,
you know, she she needs this problem rectified asap. And
I get it. And or Nesto didn't tour carries backyard
up y'all. She asked him to get get you know,
cleared out from anywhere the rats might be hiding, and
and or Nesto told Carrie they were everywhere. So now
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this beautiful, gorgeous, scenic backyard at the Grammercy House that
we just saw a few beats earlier is now like
a gray, dirty, like concrete square. Like it's just it's
a mess. You know, there's some concrete, some dirt, but
it's just ugly. That's my point that I'm trying to make,
Like the beauty is gone from that backyard. But it's
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a metaphor. It's a metaphor. But we'll get to that.
I believe it's a metaphor. Then we get Carrie in
her house and she is, you know, at one point,
Carrie contemplates she's doing voice to text sending aiden a
message about what's going on in the backyard, and she
deletes it. She deletes it. She writes out this whole
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paragraph and deletes it. But then we get Carrie in
her house and she is looking at tables, she's looking
at furniture, and something brushes past her leg But it's
just shee shoe, the kit and shoe, the cute little cat.
But Carrie jumped, She's shocked, She's surprised, only to then
turn around and Aiden's standing there in the doorway. Now,
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I was like, now, where the hell was the alarm
system here? Where the hell was the ding ding ding fault?
Front door? Like? Where was the alarm system here? Like?
That's scary because if Aiden can get in, Carrie, I'm
guessing anyone can get in Hello. So Aiden surprises her.
He's there because why it is with Gabby, his ex wife.
He's with Gabby's family, and Aiden feels bad about the
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way he shut carry down. You know, Denver and I
talked about this last week when Carrie was like, you know,
hot and ready and trying to do the phone sex
and Aiden was like, girl, I can't do this. I'm
laying next to my son right now, can't I can't
do this. So he's there in person in New York
City because he feels bad about the way that he
shut carry down the other night. But he's only in
town for one night, he apologizes, and then they have
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sex instead of phone sex. They get the real deal.
Shout out to that, you know, how y'all doing. Then
we get to our next scene. Charlotte and Anthony are
walking down the sidewalk and Charlotte is spiraling in classic
Charlotte fashion, and she is contemplating contacting Lois Fingerhood you
know again for the eighth time today, and she is
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so distracted and busy in her own mess that she
can't even focus long enough to see that Anthony is
trying to show her that he's opening his first brick
and mortar flagship, Hot Fella's Bakery, Okay, And when she
does see it, Charlotte goes, oh, no, you know, someone
stole your idea. And He's like, girl, this this my store,
this is my bakery, Come on in. And I just
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love Charlotte's childlike wonderment sometimes because she's like, oh my god,
bread handles, you know, like she's little things excite her.
So I love that because little things excite me too.
I think that it is important that we all, you know,
let little things excite us as we navigate this rough terrain,
this rocky terrain of this thing called life. I think
that a child like wonderment. It might be annoying to some,
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but it's valuable. It really is valuable. That's my personal opinion.
The next morning, we get Carrie and Aiden. They're having
a conversation in the kitchen and the first thing that
I noticed is how tiny carries a kitchen table is.
But again, this is a table for one person. It's
just Carrie living there. But they're having a conversation in
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the kitchen when she mentions that she wants to honor
the space that he requested, you know, so he could
be with his sons and help with his family. But
she told him sometimes she wants to update him on things,
but she feels that she cannot text him. He responds,
that's crazy, you know. I M what can I say
about this? Take it from me, y'all As someone who
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has been there before, I've encountered various versions of this
where there seems to be sometimes a conditioning that takes place,
and clarity is always the best approach for moving forward,
otherwise you'll drive yourself crazy. And when I say conditioning,
I mean, you know, sometimes I have found myself in
whether it be romantic situations or platonic situations where you
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know it's approached and it's under the guise of like
equal footing and equity, and you know we're two people,
you know, figuring it out. But it's like, after a while,
I've noticed that I don't feel safe to come to you.
I don't feel safe to say certain things. There's certainarameters,
whether they be spoken or unspoken, that are put up
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certain boundaries. And I'm not saying boundaries are bad. Boundaries
are super super important, super super important. But when you're unclear,
it can get in the weeds of this. Right, there's
no reason why we should be in a romantic relationship
and I don't feel like I can reach out to you.
That's weird, especially at our big age of being in
our fifties, Like, like, that's just weird. That's why I'm
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not a cool girl. I'm using air quotes. I'm not
the cool girl who's gonna go with the flow. I'm
gonna rip the band aid off girl. I am a
fan of confrontation because you know, shout out to Ts
Madison and Craig Down on their show, Communication is our partner,
Clarity is our friend. Hello, But they both mentioned that
they're kind of lost. Note this. Note this. They're both
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carry and Aiden both mentioned that they're kind of lost.
This is in the midst of this conversation, and Aiden
has a moment of transparency, mentioning the guilt that he
has for being in New York City with Carrie the
night of Wyatt's accident, and he admits that he might
have went a little overboard with his requests, and he
encourages Carrie to reach out to him more frequently. And
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let's jump start this. I love that Carrie uses her
garden and uses that backyard as a metaphor, because that's
also going to pop back up in this episode. But
she uses her garden as a metaphor and stating to Aiden,
you know, she thought it was perfect, but underneath all
of the beauty was basically a rat infested mess. And
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I put in my notes that's similar to their relationship. Then,
you know, Aiden goes to step outside and Carrie says,
don't let the cat out, don't let don't let shoo out,
and Aiden says, well, why does she try to escape?
Carrie's response because her boyfriend is in Virginia. Huh huh.
Y'all paying attention y'all paying attention. It's just me speakfip
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and then we'll be back to complete the episode. Sit tight,
all right, we are back. Let's wrap up and finish
this episode. Now we're in Miranda's office where she is
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having lunch and secretly watching by bingo. She's watching the
show that was exposed to her, you know that her
coworkers were watching, and so she's watching that. And then
we get Carrie meeting up. Wait, excuse me. I have
Carrie in this table. Okay, she's looking at the furniture
she was This is the same table she was looking
at when Aiden surprised her earlier in the week, and
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she writes out a detailed message to him about it.
So keep in mind, I just told you. In the kitchen,
they have this conversation where he's like, oh, you know,
that's crazy, don't be ridiculous, you know, reach out. So
Carrie writes this detailed message out to him. It's fun,
it's flirty, and she does say, let me know what
you think about this table. Aiden responds with an emoji
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and that would have pissed me off my sister. You know,
Carrie be tripping sometimes with my sister won tripping. In
this episode, she won tripping. That's my humble opinion because
Aiden responding with an emoji just that that might have
been my thirteenth reason, because are you serious right now?
Are you serious right now? You can't be serious. I
know you messing with me. You can't be serious. But
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then we get our next scene and Carrie's debriefing with
Sema and Miranda. They're out to lunch at this Mexican restaurant.
I'm guessing it's a Mexican restaurant. But she's venting to
them about Aiden's response, and Seema ends up, you know,
she weighs in on her dating life, and that's when
the waitress arrives with their mild spice. It's a mild
spice table side guacamole. Miranda begins talking about by Bingo,
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the show that she's been watching, and she and this
waitress seem to hit it off like there's a connection there,
bonding over the show and the joy of hate watching.
And that's when Sema slides in a joke about maybe
she's hate Maybe that's what she's doing with men. You
know what, SEMA's sister me too. Maybe that's what I'm doing.
I try to approach dating with love, but you know,
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it's kind of weird out here. It's kind of weird
out here. We then get a montage of Sema on
various dates, and she's knocking these dates out the park.
She's predicting what they're gonna say. It's so uninspiring and boring,
which sometimes that's what dating is, like, uninspiring and boring.
Like you just and I should mention, we don't know
how Seema's meeting these men, because she makes no mention
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of being on a dating app, So I wonder how
she's meeting these men to go on this montage. But also,
Seema is a baddie, so she might be getting meet cutes.
And it's New York City, right, so it's all different
types of people from all different walks of life. Seema
might be getting hit on. I know that I get
a lot of attention in New York City, and I'm
no Sema. I'm sure, but Seema could be getting hit on,
you know, quite frequently. She is a certified baddie. Then
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we get our next scene where Miranda gets a visit
from Joy the brit That's what I have in my notes,
Joy the Brit and she wants all the tea of
Miranda's personal life. Now I laughed out loud at this
because I was like, oh my god, how much of
a hot mess must Miranda's personal life? I mean, we
know because we watched the show, right, we we know
how much of a hot mess her life is. But
could you imagine someone like no, no, no, no no, I don't
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want to get caught up on work. What's new on
the Miranda Show? What type of shit you got going on?
You know? And so Miranda ends up, you know, telling
her about sister Mary, you know, one night stand, and
you know, there's this funny scene where Joy closes the
door and they end up having a conversation like literally
the hot topics, the tea, the hot table talk, that's
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what that's what they end up having. So then we
get this really quick scene of Charlotte getting help from
one of her younger colleagues, and now she's like following
Lois Fingerhood's personal Instagram page. And that's when we also
see LTW. She's in the edit bay for her documentary
and she gets a call from Charlotte and they see
that Lois is at her son, her son's little league game,
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and so ltw and Charlotte they decide to go so
they can catch this woman in person and you know,
state their case. Now, this scene was just so classic
sex in the City to me because and I say
that only because of the optics. Right, So, at this
little league game, all of the parents are dressed like
in Denham and north Face. And then we get these
very fashionable women showing up in stilettos and serving high
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fashion and I loved it. I love the optics, you know,
stay true to the brand. Ladies. They're walking across dirt
and like stilettos. It's great. But they approach the finger
and they state their case. They got thirty seconds to do. So.
Then we get the next scene and it's Lily playing
piano and Diego's there, you know, Lily's new love interest
of this season, and they are locked in to the
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point where Diego's instructor is like, baby, you need to
focus on the dance. You need to focus less on
Lily Golden Black and more on the dance and the curriculum.
But it's so clear that Lily and Diego are feeling
each other. And you know, we see that Charlotte is
calling Lily and Lily's not answering. But in fairness, Lily
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was playing that piano, she was working. She could not answer,
She's in school. And then Charlotte, where am I in
my notes? Charlotte catches them, She catches them kissing passionately
in the stairwell, and Lily, of course goes off because Lily.
Here's the thing. As much as Lily sometimes annoys me,
I love the way that her character is written because
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it shows how she is a function. She is a
direct result, like all of us are for the most part,
but of our parents. We are nothing more than a
rendering of the people who raised us. So if Lily's
crashing out and being snappy and freaking out, I think
it's a symptom. The grace comes in is because Lily
is not only a teenager, but she is also Charlotte's daughter, right,
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So the crashout is gonna be there, It's gonna be epic,
it is going to be uncalled for because I mean,
look at her mama, Look at her mama, And so yeah,
you know, all of this is time sensitive LTW. She
pulls up on Herbert Junior at lacrosse practice and lets
him know that the Thursday is the big day with
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Lois Fingerhood. We then get the next scene, Seema's at
work and she's telling her assistant, you know, because one
of the guys in Seema's dating montage was this guy
named Wolf whose real name was Stan and Sema goes
off on him. But I guess he's trying to like
get her back, and Seema's like, no, tell him to
kick rocks, you know. You know, people in hell will
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be served ice water before I ever respond to him
type thing. And that's when her boss overhears her and
he's like, I hope you're not talking about a client
and she's like, no, I'm talking about this guy when
on a date on and SEMA's boss has a private
meeting with her. Now, how would you all react to this?
I'm curious to know how you would react to this.
I could not imagine a boss or someone that I
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answer to having a private meeting with me about my
personal life in this way, in the way that that
he notes it. Because her boss says that basically, baby,
I'm gonna hook you up with Sidney. Okay, Sidney. Now
Sema does not know that Sidney is a matchmaker, but
I'm gonna hook you up with Sidney because you know,
at this point your love life has pained me in
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physical ways. My head hurt, my hip hurt. I've known
you for too long. This is this is wild and
what I think is again speakpipe dot com slash, We're
just like that. I personally do not think that Seema's
expectations are anything crazy. I don't think her requirements are
anything crazy. And it strikes me as odd that it
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feels like everyone around her is like, oh you you tripping.
You got a little bit too much dip on your chip. Like,
Seema has the right, based on who she is, what
she does, and how she carries herself, she has the
right to have certain you know, checks and balances in
place for for men that she wants to be with.
I don't view Seema as a difficult or complicated woman personally.
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Now if you all disagree, let me know. I do
not view her as a complicated woman. She's a woman
who knows what she wants and it's not her fault
if that's not being reflected back to her I don't
think so, I'm not saying I don't think the Seema's guy,
you know, does not exist. But the fact, I gotta say,
it's not giving me too much hope. The fact that
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she's struggling so much to find someone is just like
whoa okay, because all her cards are on the table,
you know, But nevertheless, shout out to Sydney. I can't
remember her last name. Was it Clusterfuck or something like that,
I can't remember. But she's played by comedy legend and
Saturday Night Live alumnus Sherry O Terry Okay, the icon
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and so but we'll get to that scene, I think
a beat or two after this, because now it's Thursday
and we're back with LTW and Charlotte and their kids
are in a private meeting with Lois food, and Lois
leaves the room to go to the restroom, and so
of course LTW and Charlotte go in to check on Herbert,
Junior and Lily and the kids are in distress. The
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kids are not all right. They are freaking out. They
are full on anxiety attacks and hyperventilating, Lily breathing into
a bag, Herbert laying down on the cat like it's
not good, and so they end up explaining Lois's advice.
I guess, in order to get into these schools, and
to get nine kids into Princeton, you have to tell
them what to turn down and turn up. So it's like,
I guess. She tells Herbert that she needs more authentic
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black experiences. He comes from such a place of privilege.
And I'm like, that's coded language. Okay, that's very coded language,
because there is no quote unquote black experience. While there
are things that connect all black people together, I believe,
like certain cultural and universal threats that connect us together,
there is no singular one Black American experience. And I'm
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saying American because I'm talking about Black Americans. We are
all so diverse and so different. But she even tells Lily,
you know, don't bring up you know, pianos mundane, and
don't mention that you're Asian or adopted. Charlotte of course
crashes out, fuck Lois, fucking finger rock. I have that
in caps. But as Charlotte is crashing out, Lois is
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done in the restroom. Honey, Lois is in the doorway,
and she hears all of this, and she leaves and
you know LTW and Charlotte. They're kind of scrambling. Do
you want your truffles? You know, oh, I miss folk.
And Lois is done with them. She walks out and
she says, good luck with Debbie. And you know, Debbie
is the lesser of the two, at least in these conversations.
Lois is the creme de la creme. You know, Lois
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is that bitch and Debbie that's that on Debbie. Then
we get our next scene. Seema is on a date
with a man named Jake, and you know, in her
consultation with Sydney, Sidney, you know, kind of critiques Seema's
personal style of you know, her metallics and her animal print.
But that's to me, that's cultural. I don't look at
Sema is not a tacky woman. To me, I'm gonna
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defend her, okay. But it's interesting because on this date
her hair is strained, so that wave isn't there that
we're used to seeing Sema with. She has a blowout
and it's a bit it's more of a conservative blowout, right,
It's not the blowout that she got in previous seasons,
Like this is more of a bit of a conservative
blowout and she's in her pearls, in her pastells, and
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it seems like Sema is really giving this a fair chance.
But we know she can tow up because this is
this is inauthentic to who she is. She's a type
a personality, you know she is. She is an alful woman.
I hate that phrase, but she is an alful woman.
And I noticed that Jake says during this date, he says,
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I feel like I've been talking the entire time. You're
a wonderful listener. And again I hate Well, you know,
I'm gonna weave myself into my own damn show. Okay,
I have heard this. I also know in my personal
experience that men loved to talk about themselves. They love
to hear themselves speak, and so I know that that
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has been when I reflect on some of my past experiences. Honestly,
that's been the function of some of them. And the
function what I mean when I say that is like
literally me being a sounding board or an armchair therapist,
and there's no reciprocity there. There's no reciprocity because I
might not feel safe enough like this is me years ago,
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or that's just the precedence that's set with the relationship
is that I serve to sit across from you, or
be on the phone with you, or spend time with
you in the capacity of someone to bounce ideas off
and be a sounding board and an armchair therapist. And
you don't give a damn what I got going on.
That's not a good feeling. That's not a good feeling.
But I took note when he was like, you know,
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you're such a wonderful listener, Like he doesn't see anything.
This is the type of woman that he wants right
as we'll see. But Sema, she ends up breaking do
this because, as I mentioned, it's inauthentic to the core
of who she is, and she admits that she's not
normally this quiet and agreeable. She lays all of her
cards out on the table and she hates the cabernet
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he chose, and Tara Massou is, so you know, yesteryear,
what have you? This is something that I want to
ask you all, because Denver is not here to copilot
with me today. How do you feel about people ordering
for you on dates? I think about white chicks, of course,
when you know Terry Cruse is out with Marlon Wayne's character,
and he's like, for the lady, perhaps a salad. She's like,
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perhaps not, and she goes to order half the menu.
But I'm curious to know what you all, regardless of sexuality,
regardless of gender, how do you feel about being, in
particular romantic dates in someone ordering for you, especially if
there is no prior discussion as to like what you want.
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If before I give you my opinion, maybe we'll touch
on this next week. I want to know what you
all think about someone ordering for you. And you can
also write in and say it. But yeah, that's just
something something that I noted. But yeah. So she ends
up putting all her cards out on the table and
he thanks her. He says he admires her honesty. This
is a direct quote. There's nothing sexier than an honest woman.
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And then he excuses himself to the restroom. And I
have in my notes that I knew some bs was
afoot when he excused himself to the restroom. I didn't
fully trust that. But as soon as he goes to
the restroom, Sidney appears. Sidney's there on the date, and
Sema has no idea, seems like, what are you doing here?
And Sidney's like, I go on all of the dates,
the initial dates that I hooked my clients up with.
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But while Sidney is talking to Sema at this table,
she gets a text message like Seema's like this is
going great. Jake just actually just excuses himself to the restroom,
like he'll be back, and Sidney's like, no, he won't, No,
he won't. He text her and he actually ended up
leaving the date and he told her he has enough
challenge at work. I guess he's not looking for that
in his personal life. But also, Seema dodged a damn
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bullet because this was so cowardly. You're a grown ass man.
If you want to excuse yourself from the date, you
need to use your words, right. You said, I'm such
a good listener. You spent up most of the time
of this date talking about yourself. So if you want
to excuse yourself, or if this is not going in
the direction that you would have preferred it to go,
or you're not enjoying yourself, you need to be a
man and put your big boy pants on and tell
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me that. You need to face me and tell me
that don't excuse yourself to the bathroom and stick me
with the bill you lose her, Like I was, like,
Seema dodged a bullet. But anyway, Seema ends up going off,
well she doesn't go off, but she basically dumped Sidney,
the dating coach, the matchmaker, and she leaves. You know, Sidney,
you can stay here. I'm not doing this. I'm not
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compromising who I am at my core to Like, love
is important to Seema, but I don't think it's that
important where she could trade in who she is for
the sake of having a man. And there was a scene,
you know, so it was unspoken. There was nothing really
said during the scene. But a few beats earlier, we
see Sema, you know, doing her nighttime routine. But she's
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headed to her bed, you know, after putting on her
moisturizers and motions and potions, and she stops in front
of her bed and looks at it because it's just
an empty bed. It's an empty bed. It's just her
climbing into it. So I think that was a sobering moment,
and it speaks to the desires of her heart. It
speaks to what she wants, you know, what she wants
for herself. So yeah, We then get the next scene.
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Carrie and Miranda are back at this Mexican restaurant I'm guessing,
and they're having tableside guak prepared by the waitress. We
learned that the waitress's name is Ava in this scene.
But Carrie clocks, she clocks in real time that, oh,
this isn't a real lunch date, Mariah, I said, Mariah,
Miranda just has me here as a wingwoman aka a
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guacamole beard, so that Miranda can chit chat with Ava.
Miranda's clearly like smin and you know, she's chit chatting
with Ava and they're having a great time. I should
mention Miranda and Avar are totally locked in about this show.
Carrie is still ruminating on the communication hiccups and frustrations
with Aiden, and understandably because I should mention Aiden after
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he sent that thumbs down emoji. There's been no correspondence,
no follow up, no solution, no compromise, no. Well, this
table gets a thumbs down from me, but what about
this is the one that I like? You know, it's
a thumbs down, Like it's just I don't know, I
do not like Aiden. Let me go on record and
say that now. Oh my god, Oh my god. You
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see how the wind changes. Like I was a fan
of Aiden in the Sex and the City Show, but
in just like that, at this current station in chapter
that he is in his life. At one point I
was excited about him and Carrie, and now I'm ready
for him to go, like I'm tired of him because
his priorities. And I get it, trust me, I get it.
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I am not diminishing the relationship or priority between parent
and child or or parent and kid if you will,
or young adult. But this is just not a fit
for Carrie. I will put it that way. I'll put
it that way. I do not like Aiden for Carrie.
So I'm not gonna say I don't like Aiden. I
don't like him for Carrie. This is just a clear
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mismatch and they both need to cut their losses and
move on because they're wasting time. They really are. So
she's still frustrated. She's still frustrated, and Carrie then excuses
herself to the restroom and from there this is where
things go left. And of course I want to hear
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from you all with this. But Miranda ends up going
in for the kill with Ava, and what I mean
when she says goes in for the what I mean
when I say goes in for the kill? Miranda invites
Ava like she hits on her, and then invites her
out on a date, like invites her out, would you
like to grab drinks? Sometimes? And that's when Ava drops
the ball. She drops the bomb if you will. She
reveals that she is straight, and she is married and
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she has two kids. And Miranda said, oh, oh, you know,
I assumed that you were queer because of you know,
by bingo and ave a snarkily response that, like it's
a TV show, babe. I watch The Walking Dead and
I'm not a zombie. In my notes, I have ouch
ouch I mean, and I'm curious to know how people
also deal with this. Like you, we can't assume anything.
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I don't think it's safe to assume much in this
life personally. This is why you know, you gotta ask questions,
gotta do some digging. But also I felt for Miranda.
That was like taking a bullet Miranda's sister. She just
keeps striking out. I want Miranda to get her happy ending.
And I am so pissed at what the last few
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years of Miranda's life has looked like, you know, I'm
I just want her to get her happy ending, because
I feel I love her character, I love Miranda, and
I feel like she she deserves that, and I don't
feel that like what's happening to her, especially so far
two episodes in. I don't necessarily and I don't h
I don't. I don't necessarily look at any of this
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as her fault, like it's not. It's not your fault
when you keep striking out, like I feel like she's trying.
She's trying throw her bone, throw her a bone, cut
her some slack. Yeah. So then we get Carrie in
the bathroom and she is trying to gather her thoughts
to send aiden you know this message, but she ends
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up conceding to just sending an eye roll emoji, which
I mean, girl, I get it, I get it, I
get it. And now as we round out the episode,
we get you know, the classic walk and talk with
Miranda and carry they're chatting. I should also mention I
really liked Carrie's outfit during this day, like the she
was wearing like this, like kind of like tan nude shirt.
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I liked the dinner, like I really liked this outfit,
Like that's something I would wear in my personal life. Truly,
I loved Carrie's outfit. She looked so fab But they're
walking and talking and Miranda reveals that she has a
crush on Joy. Remember Joy is the British woman from
earlier and so. But Miranda says she doesn't like mixing
business with pleasure. Carrie tells her she's over thinking it.
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People meet through work all the time. So my train
of thought with this is I align more with Miranda.
That's just my personal thought. I do not believe in
shout out to TJ. Holmes and Amy Robot. I don't
believe in it. Like things at work can get so sloppy,
and as Miranda notes, like if she opens a door
to something with Joy, she can't just like stop coming
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to Joy's restaurant, Like they work together in a professional capacity,
and there is something scary about that. And I do
know that love requires risk and vulnerability. But I'm like,
maybe I've missed out on some of my blessings because
work is just off limits to me. It's just off limits.
I don't know if I'll ever now I'm not planning
my feet in the sand with that because like I said,
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you just never know if things might get so impassioned
or you look up and at the copy machine and
there's a meat cute. You just never know. And I've
seen it happen. I've seen success stories. I know people
in LA that have met at work and who are
you know, engaged or married? Like it's possible, but is
it worth the risk? Like I feel like we have
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it's our responsibility to be discerning, and I guess it's
case by case. Scenario is case by case, work situation,
case by case, city and environment. But for me, it's
just I don't know if that's the capricorn and me speaking.
I just even though Michelle and Barack met it work
and she was like his supervisor, like he answered to her, Hmm,
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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I
just I'm more of the train of thought with Miranda,
with this like joy would totally be off limits to me,
totally totally, especially with like I'm not initiating. I might
entertain if joy knocks, I might answer, but I'm not initiating.
Maybe that's what it boils down to for me. I
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don't know, I don't know. Nevertheless, we get Carrie, where
am I at? In my notes? We're wrapping things up,
you all, we're wrapping things up. Carrie is headed home
and she can't well. Now she is at home and
she can't seem to find Shoe. Remember we can't. She
keeps trying to get outside and we can't let Shoe
out and she runs into a cute man. I should
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mention that she goes home. She leaves Miranda to go
meet with a garden contractor because remember her backyard is
busted and dusted and crusted, and she wants to bring
that romance air quotes. She wants to bring that romance,
that moving art, that beauty, those colors back into her backyard.
So she goes home to meet this this garden contractor,
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and she can't find you. And then that's when she
meets I think this guy's name is Adam Gardens. Did
I do a typo? I don't know. But she meets
Adam Gardens and he has Shoe and that happens to
be the guy that she has the meeting with, and
there's some light flirting going on, which sometimes happens. I
didn't notice in this scene that Carrie did not once
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bring up Aiden right, it's now my house, my backyard,
my garden. It's not all of the us in our conversation.
And I do think I have a prediction that Carrie,
we're gonna gag because the alarm password is gonna be changed.
Remember in episode one, the password to turn off the
alarm was carrying aiden. I think we're gonna gag. And
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I don't know if it's gonna be overt. I think
we're just gonna look up and you know, Miranda's gonna
be like, oh, shoot, what's the password? The alarm's going off,
and Carrie's like Carrie one on one, you know type thing.
I don't know. I don't know. I'm just throwing stuff
out there. But anyway, again poetry in motion, call me Corny.
So she meets this cute guy. He is cute. There's
some light flirting going on, and I said in my notes,
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I said, could this be something new with carrying a
new love interest. He mentioned that he's a native New Yorker. Well,
she mentions that, like Ah, a native New Yorker, he's
Greenwich Village born and raise. And I have these quotes because,
like I said, call me Corny, I'm still a girl
I relate to girls like Carrie and like women like
Jennifer Lopez. Right, they don't let life slow them down.
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They believe in love, and they're unafraid of risks. So
I'll read these quotes to you because I thought that
they were I was like that damn writer's room. H
they know how to tuget my little heartstrings. So this guy,
Adam asked Carrie. He said, Carrie, what's your ultimate vision
for this space? Carrie has no idea, and Carrie responds,
I loved everything it as it was, but now that's
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all changed, so I don't know what comes next. Sorry.
The lover girl in me is squealing because these are
it's metaphors, it's metaphors. And he responds by saying, I
think that's exciting because what's meant to be has the
space to show up. My god, my god, my god,
my god, my god. That is some excellent writing. That
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is some excellent writing. Ugh, I love it. I love it.
And then you know, Carrie then goes up her winding
stairwell and we get this long stanza, this long third
person stanza that I didn't care to write down. But
the episode ends. The episode ends. Predictions you know what.
In the name of time, and because my co pilot,
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my co host, Denver is not here, I am going
to save my predictions and instead this is a call
to action for you all listening to let me know
your predictions. I know I've prompted you all like twenty
times during this episode, but it's because I'm flying solo,
so just call in. You know, we air them all
unless they're wildly inappropriate. But yes, let us know your predictions.
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I rate this episode. This episode was a solid like
eight point five out of ten for me. I really
enjoyed this episode and I feel like it got the
motion moving right, Like if this is episode only, episode two,
you know, the season seems a little promising, so it
got it moving. In the meantime, be sure to like, rate, subscribe,
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hit us up, let us know what's going on. And
until next week, Denver will be back and we will
be co hosting, and until next week we will we
will chat then okay, and just like that, we're out
of here. Remember speakpipe dot com slash We're just like that,
all right. Bye,
Hey, Hey, it's Shar Hey, this is Denver, and We're
just like that. Welcome to the unofficial recap podcast for
Max's original series. And just like that, we're so excited Denver.
So you're ready, I'm ready, all right, so let's get
things started. Hey everyone, and welcome to another episode of
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We're Just like That. Now, what you'll notice about this
week's episode is Denver unfortunately could not make it. Listen.
There's a lot going on right now. It's Pride month.
He's traveling, I'm traveling, and so in order to honor
our recording schedule and get you all out an episode,
it'll just be me, Shar Jasel, your other co host,
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flying solo, and I'm so excited to dive into season three,
episode two, the rat Race. I should know Denver will
be back next week. He will, so everybody calm down
before we get started. I do want to play one
of the one of my favorite callers. I have to say,
Marvelous is back. We have a speak pipe and so
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we're gonna take a listen and then react high.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Denver, Hi, shar Marvelous is back. It's spent almost two
years and I missed you both terribly so let's get
to it now. Sister Mary the Virgin was a thirsty
nigga and she fucked a shit out of Miranda with
that good strap energy. Y'all know Rosie is very much
so butcher and she will fix your car. Okay, she
got a sturdy gait. She want nobody's pillow. Princess Miranda
(01:34):
was being mean by not responding to her. If you
don't like her, just block her, get her closer to
what she wants and needs. Okay. Now Charlotte is giving
me camp. She's giving me nerdy. Her and Miranda are
just not cool anymore of their moms and something happens
when you're a mom. Just not cool no more. And
it's okay, Okay, y'all want to see her cut up,
y'all see her Bebrooke on Nauro's place. Now, that was
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a twisted bitch, Carrie. You playing a dangerous game. Five
boo five years. If you're gonna give him five years,
you need to be fucking other man. Don't be stupid.
He's playing a twisted game, a twisted get back mesh
for that broken engagement and her cheating on him. Keep
a watch on him. Pull a Bunion, Lisa Todd Wexley.
If you don't want Herbert Pitch, I will take him now.
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I woke up when he was singing Okay, that man
was in Hamilton and it was a little boring on
the first watch. But when I woke up, I said,
oh my god, who is that? Okay Macod Brooks. Now,
y'all know he's for the boys the girls at the dolls. Now,
if you know, you know shadow tags, she's playing a
dangerous game and he's gonna do the licky lick. Keep
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a watch on him. I'll be back, y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Love you, and again, thank you for marvelous. We can
always count on you to give us a comprehensive breakdown. Now,
those of you listening, if you want to let your
voice be heard, be sure to head over to speakpipe
dot com slash. We're just like that, Denver and I
love hearing from you all. So that's how you can
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let us know how you're feeling, how you're doing, and
your thoughts on the episode. Now, I must say I
enjoyed episode two way more than I enjoyed the premiere.
Oh my gosh, this episode was fun. I didn't it
didn't feel like homework to rewatch it. I thought that
the writing was funny and poetic and we're gonna get
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all into it. But I do want to remind you
all to like, subscribe and share, tell a friend about
the show. We're doing good things over here. I also
have to acknowledge that twenty seven years ago this past week,
Sex and the City premiered the show Our Show, Our
Baby SATC. The origin is almost thirty years old. That's
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kind of crazy. Also Remarvelous noted that you know Herbert
was a Broadway star, and I have to shout out Pamela,
who DMed me on Instagram and was kind of like,
shar girl. You don't know who Christopher Jackson is. He's
part of the original cast of Hamilton, and honestly I
did not know because listen, guys, I enjoy musical or two,
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I could not. I didn't get a chance to see
Hamilton live and I know that it's available on Disney Plus,
but for whatever reason, I could not get into it.
So now I'm inspired. I don't know if the original
cast is what's on Disney Plus, but I'm inspired to
really buckle down, sit down and see what Lynn mil
Menuel Miranda, you know, has got to say to us
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about Hamilton, because when my friends tried to show it
to me a few years ago, I just couldn't connect
with it. I struggled to connect with it. So I
will check that out and shout out to you, Pamela. Also,
I should note that the crazy Karen from last week's
episode who accosted Charlotte in Central Park about the dog
I saw on a Sex and the City fan page,
that that same actress is the woman who threw the
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red paint on Samantha in Sex and the City the movie.
Remember Samantha had on the white fur coat and a
woman comes and throws red paint on her and says
her is murder, murder, and then Samantha's like, God, I
miss New York. So allegedly that's the same actress and
she plays crazy so well, So shout shout out to her.
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I also final shout out before we dive into the
episode Kristin Davis, and I'll talk to Denver about this later.
Kristin Davis, girl, you are knocking it out the part.
Kristin Davis. For those of you who don't know, she's
the actress who plays Charlotte York, Golden blat on it
just like that. She had Lena Waithe on her show
and Meghan v. Stallion. That was a fun episode. I
didn't get a chance to listen to Lena's but I
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listened to Megan because you know, Meghan's been making her rounds.
She's kind of a new Sex in the City fan,
and it was just fun to listen to one of
my favorite rappers speak to one of my favorite, you know,
TV character actresses. So if you all are not listening
to Kristin Davis's podcast, are you a Charlotte and you
are a Sex and the City fan, or you want
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to know what's going on behind the scenes within just
like that costume design and things of that nature. Check
that out. I encourage you to check that out. I
just wish that the visual aid was uploaded at the
same time as the audio, but that's not the case.
So you gotta find it wherever you get your podcasts,
because I don't know if it's you're gonna find it
on the YouTube. But nonetheless, now that we got all
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of that out the way, let's start with the episode.
So this episode opens up, I gotta say, carry looked
amazing in this blue Hello somebody, blue glittery shoulder padded dress,
like crossing that street, I was like, this is what
I watched this show for. She looked amazing. And she's
headed to meetless Set at a bar where they both
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of them end up catching up with what's going on
in their lives. I have to say, it's nice to
see lis Set. I like that she's woven into this
story and she's managed to last, you know, three seasons.
And while they're catching up, Carrie refers to her house.
She says, the Grammercy House, and she talks about all
of its history. We learned that this house was built
in the eighteen forties, and she loves the history of
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her house and enjoys picking all of the women that
have lived there before her. And this makes me wonder
as I'm listening to Carrie talk about this is and
this question kind of gets answered later on in the episode,
but like, is this house the main inspiration behind whatever
this book is that Carrie is writing, Especially since this
season we have noted that she's speaking in third person.
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We're not getting like those classic and just like that taglines,
she's speaking in third person. So then Lisette goes on
a rant about the dating pool. Now you know Denver
is partnered, I am still a single Sally out here,
you know, shout out to Sema. You know she was
singing my song this episode for Lisette goes on a
rant about the dating pool and she says, you know,
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my phone is who I'm in a relationship with. You're
so lucky that you met Aiden before this list. That
sounds like me talking to some of my friends and
family who met their partners prior to all of the
crap that those of us that are single and that
might be looking looking for love. Because admit, I'm not
always looking for love. I gotta you all. I have
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to compartmentalize my life, and I gotta do that in spurts. Okay,
it won't always be. I don't have the energy to
always look for it, but sometimes, you know. I should
also note that I've sworn off dating apps. Oh my god,
I haven't been on dating apps in maybe three years now.
I just refuse to get on another one. I think
it's a very particular personality, especially as a woman who's
looking for romantic interactions with a man. It's a very
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specific personality that is on the apps. And I just
had two cousins get married, well, one is engaged to
be married and the other just got married, and both
of them met their partners on dating apps. But they
also are not on the West Coast or the East
coast or like you know that, like they're down south.
So I also think the culture is a bit different.
I'm not sure those of you who know the no
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let us know it speakpipe dot com slash, we're just
like that. Let me know your thoughts on dating apps.
I've sworn them off personally. I am looking forward to
a meet cute. Okay, I want to be at Costco
getting you know, my chips or you know, a bag
of romaine and look up and I lock eyes with
with mister Wright. But nevertheless, so Lisette gets so frustrated
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that she ends up chucking her phone across the bar.
Now this was odd to me because who does it?
And it's not generational, right, So I want to know
it doesn't matter if you're gen Z, millennial, gen X,
Boom or what have you. Anyone that chucks their phone
across the room, your immediate reaction is to go get it.
So the fact that she's in this crowded bar, she
chucks her phone across the room and apparently we don't
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see it, but we hear it, right, we hear this.
She assaults, the phone hits somebody, and she's just like whatever.
I was like, Okay, that's not realistic. That's not realistic
because dating apps, aside our phones, for many of us,
are our lifelines. Like without your phone, you just feel naked.
You feel naked. So Lisette reveals that she invited carry
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Out to drinks because she has a gift for her,
and she presents Carrie with what I thought was so beautiful,
like this homemade chain link. You all know lis sat
as a jewelry designer, like this chainley key chain that
has two four or five on it, the numbers two
four five, and that's a tribute to Carrie's old address,
two forty five East seventy third Street. I thought that
was a thoughtful, fun gift. And who doesn't like guests.
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But that's when the victim of the phone throwing comes
up to the ladies, the guy who got hit, and
he gives list at her phone back and offers to
buy them drinks. I thought that was a cute little
opener episode. I mean, excuse me, opening scene to the episode,
and then we get the next scene where we get
as I call them, Lucy and Ethel Honey, LTW and Charlotte.
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They're leaving the school that their kids attend. When they
overhear Ainsley, who's I guess one of the moms, and
some other moms and they're discussing college admission consultants and
this woman named Lois Fingerhood aka the Finger aka the
Ivy Whisperer. She's brought up. But the ladies are very
very tight lipped about this, and they end up lying
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to Law and Charlotte like, oh hey, girl, you know
it's a nice day to day. Charlotte and LTW are
so flustered by this that they end up barging into
Principal Greg's office to tell him what's going on. Now
this I love this scene because Principal Greg put on
his tactical gear. Honey. He didn't know what was going on,
but he was ready to go out there and I
guess fight the good fight. I'm not sure, but he
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did it. Of course because of how dramatic they were
when they burst into his office, and as he noted,
you got the big Charlotte eyes. Like, y'all know, Charlotte
does a lot, right, she does a lot. And so
they also bring up this other college recruiters name this
woman named Debbie. And Debbie is good at her job,
she's fine, but she's no Lois. Lois has managed to
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get nine kids into Princeton and I guess that, like
when their main complaint to the principal a I guess
they have very specific recruiters through the school that they
use for college admissions. And Lois Fingerhood aka the Finger
you know, she's out of this network. They were going
to go tell but it's like, can the principal intervene
in that way? That's like a matter that has nothing
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to do with him. It's interesting. Then we jump to
the next scene, Carries in her backyard. Now, this scene, y'all, y'all,
this scene almost made me turn off the episode. Carries
in her backyard of the Grammercy House, her home. She
has her MacBook and a cup of coffee. It's a
very romanticize, Like you all know that. I love stuff
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like this. It's like poetry in motion. It's beautiful. The colors,
the just ugh, the little table, I just I love it.
It's like a painting in motion, and we hear more
of her writing about this woman. You know, she's working
on some writing and again in the third person, which
I'm gonna keep reiterating, she's getting some writing done, and
she's romanticizing the moment. It is so pretty in her backyard,
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like I said, almost like a fairy tale. She's giggling,
there's birds chirping, a squirrel comes by to say hi
on the branch. Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
Oh my god, oh my god, a gang of rats
run from a bush towards carrie feet. Carrie's feet, excuse me.
And you know she understandably freaks out. Who wouldn't freak out? Now,
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what I tipped my hat to her for is that
she had sense enough to grab her laptop, because the
way shar Jossela is set up is all of that
shit would have been left there. I don't do rodents.
This was one of the most New York City scenes
that I've ever seen depicted on script at TV, and
I have a deep fear for rodents, and like I said,
almost turned the episode off. It made me cringe and
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squirm so hard. I just couldn't do it this squeaking,
and they were in a gang. It's bad enough when
there's one. And I should mention that we also have
issues like this in Los Angeles. We are not, you know,
the bee's knees, but it's not as bad as New York.
And you know, some of you all may take offense
to this, and that's okay. I frequent New York. I
have a family that lives there. You all know. I
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pop my head into the Tammer and Hall show in
the view and like that's where all my good talk
shows are. And the last time I went to New
York was year ago. I was there for a Memorial
Day and I spent three days in New York and
then from New York, I went to d C. And
what I gagged at is that I did not see
not one rat during my New York trip last year.
But oh my god, when I went to d C,
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that was my first time in d C. When I
tell you, they were everywhere, veryware, to the point where
I would be leaving an event or leaving the club
and I'm in my uber and we're at a red
light and I see something move out of my peripheral
and they're just everywhere. They're scaling people's fences, They're at
the front doors like you know of like the nice
you know, the good two two seven Brownstones, like they
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were everywhere. And I was like, what is DC doing
about this? They're every I'm like, I'm cringing. I'm cringing.
So I just want to note that that is not
a New York, you know specific like d C was
by far worse than New York, at least the last
time I was out on the East Coast and I
explored those two cities. But again I tipped my hat
to carry and the screaming, and she managed to run
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up that spiral staircase and she didn't trip. Okay, hello
and heels and stilettos. We get our next scene. You know, Miranda,
she's at work in the breakroom making herself a cup
of tea and her younger colleagues are watching this show
on their phone and it's called by Bingo and it's
very similar if you all watch the episode, it's very
similar to a Love Island type show. But Miranda's interest
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is peaked. Then we hop to the next scene. Her
Nesto is working on Carrie's backyard. This is who she called,
you know, she she needs this problem rectified asap. And
I get it. And or Nesto didn't tour carries backyard
up y'all. She asked him to get get you know,
cleared out from anywhere the rats might be hiding, and
and or Nesto told Carrie they were everywhere. So now
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this beautiful, gorgeous, scenic backyard at the Grammercy House that
we just saw a few beats earlier is now like
a gray, dirty, like concrete square. Like it's just it's
a mess. You know, there's some concrete, some dirt, but
it's just ugly. That's my point that I'm trying to make,
Like the beauty is gone from that backyard. But it's
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a metaphor. It's a metaphor. But we'll get to that.
I believe it's a metaphor. Then we get Carrie in
her house and she is, you know, at one point,
Carrie contemplates she's doing voice to text sending aiden a
message about what's going on in the backyard, and she
deletes it. She deletes it. She writes out this whole
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paragraph and deletes it. But then we get Carrie in
her house and she is looking at tables, she's looking
at furniture, and something brushes past her leg But it's
just shee shoe, the kit and shoe, the cute little cat.
But Carrie jumped, She's shocked, She's surprised, only to then
turn around and Aiden's standing there in the doorway. Now,
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I was like, now, where the hell was the alarm
system here? Where the hell was the ding ding ding fault?
Front door? Like? Where was the alarm system here? Like?
That's scary because if Aiden can get in, Carrie, I'm
guessing anyone can get in Hello. So Aiden surprises her.
He's there because why it is with Gabby, his ex wife.
He's with Gabby's family, and Aiden feels bad about the
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way he shut carry down. You know, Denver and I
talked about this last week when Carrie was like, you know,
hot and ready and trying to do the phone sex
and Aiden was like, girl, I can't do this. I'm
laying next to my son right now, can't I can't
do this. So he's there in person in New York
City because he feels bad about the way that he
shut carry down the other night. But he's only in
town for one night, he apologizes, and then they have
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sex instead of phone sex. They get the real deal.
Shout out to that, you know, how y'all doing. Then
we get to our next scene. Charlotte and Anthony are
walking down the sidewalk and Charlotte is spiraling in classic
Charlotte fashion, and she is contemplating contacting Lois Fingerhood you
know again for the eighth time today, and she is
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so distracted and busy in her own mess that she
can't even focus long enough to see that Anthony is
trying to show her that he's opening his first brick
and mortar flagship, Hot Fella's Bakery, Okay, And when she
does see it, Charlotte goes, oh, no, you know, someone
stole your idea. And He's like, girl, this this my store,
this is my bakery, Come on in. And I just
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love Charlotte's childlike wonderment sometimes because she's like, oh my god,
bread handles, you know, like she's little things excite her.
So I love that because little things excite me too.
I think that it is important that we all, you know,
let little things excite us as we navigate this rough terrain,
this rocky terrain of this thing called life. I think
that a child like wonderment. It might be annoying to some,
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but it's valuable. It really is valuable. That's my personal opinion.
The next morning, we get Carrie and Aiden. They're having
a conversation in the kitchen and the first thing that
I noticed is how tiny carries a kitchen table is.
But again, this is a table for one person. It's
just Carrie living there. But they're having a conversation in
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the kitchen when she mentions that she wants to honor
the space that he requested, you know, so he could
be with his sons and help with his family. But
she told him sometimes she wants to update him on things,
but she feels that she cannot text him. He responds,
that's crazy, you know. I M what can I say
about this? Take it from me, y'all As someone who
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has been there before, I've encountered various versions of this
where there seems to be sometimes a conditioning that takes place,
and clarity is always the best approach for moving forward,
otherwise you'll drive yourself crazy. And when I say conditioning,
I mean, you know, sometimes I have found myself in
whether it be romantic situations or platonic situations where you
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know it's approached and it's under the guise of like
equal footing and equity, and you know we're two people,
you know, figuring it out. But it's like, after a while,
I've noticed that I don't feel safe to come to you.
I don't feel safe to say certain things. There's certainarameters,
whether they be spoken or unspoken, that are put up
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certain boundaries. And I'm not saying boundaries are bad. Boundaries
are super super important, super super important. But when you're unclear,
it can get in the weeds of this. Right, there's
no reason why we should be in a romantic relationship
and I don't feel like I can reach out to you.
That's weird, especially at our big age of being in
our fifties, Like, like, that's just weird. That's why I'm
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not a cool girl. I'm using air quotes. I'm not
the cool girl who's gonna go with the flow. I'm
gonna rip the band aid off girl. I am a
fan of confrontation because you know, shout out to Ts
Madison and Craig Down on their show, Communication is our partner,
Clarity is our friend. Hello, But they both mentioned that
they're kind of lost. Note this. Note this. They're both
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carry and Aiden both mentioned that they're kind of lost.
This is in the midst of this conversation, and Aiden
has a moment of transparency, mentioning the guilt that he
has for being in New York City with Carrie the
night of Wyatt's accident, and he admits that he might
have went a little overboard with his requests, and he
encourages Carrie to reach out to him more frequently. And
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let's jump start this. I love that Carrie uses her
garden and uses that backyard as a metaphor, because that's
also going to pop back up in this episode. But
she uses her garden as a metaphor and stating to Aiden,
you know, she thought it was perfect, but underneath all
of the beauty was basically a rat infested mess. And
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I put in my notes that's similar to their relationship. Then,
you know, Aiden goes to step outside and Carrie says,
don't let the cat out, don't let don't let shoo out,
and Aiden says, well, why does she try to escape?
Carrie's response because her boyfriend is in Virginia. Huh huh.
Y'all paying attention y'all paying attention. It's just me speakfip
(21:52):
dot com slash. We're just like that. Let me know,
let me know. I'm gonna take a quick break here
and then we'll be back to complete the episode. Sit tight,
all right, we are back. Let's wrap up and finish
this episode. Now we're in Miranda's office where she is
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having lunch and secretly watching by bingo. She's watching the
show that was exposed to her, you know that her
coworkers were watching, and so she's watching that. And then
we get Carrie meeting up. Wait, excuse me. I have
Carrie in this table. Okay, she's looking at the furniture
she was This is the same table she was looking
at when Aiden surprised her earlier in the week, and
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she writes out a detailed message to him about it.
So keep in mind, I just told you. In the kitchen,
they have this conversation where he's like, oh, you know,
that's crazy, don't be ridiculous, you know, reach out. So
Carrie writes this detailed message out to him. It's fun,
it's flirty, and she does say, let me know what
you think about this table. Aiden responds with an emoji
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and that would have pissed me off my sister. You know,
Carrie be tripping sometimes with my sister won tripping. In
this episode, she won tripping. That's my humble opinion because
Aiden responding with an emoji just that that might have
been my thirteenth reason, because are you serious right now?
Are you serious right now? You can't be serious. I
know you messing with me. You can't be serious. But
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then we get our next scene and Carrie's debriefing with
Sema and Miranda. They're out to lunch at this Mexican restaurant.
I'm guessing it's a Mexican restaurant. But she's venting to
them about Aiden's response, and Seema ends up, you know,
she weighs in on her dating life, and that's when
the waitress arrives with their mild spice. It's a mild
spice table side guacamole. Miranda begins talking about by Bingo,
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the show that she's been watching, and she and this
waitress seem to hit it off like there's a connection there,
bonding over the show and the joy of hate watching.
And that's when Sema slides in a joke about maybe
she's hate Maybe that's what she's doing with men. You
know what, SEMA's sister me too. Maybe that's what I'm doing.
I try to approach dating with love, but you know,
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it's kind of weird out here. It's kind of weird
out here. We then get a montage of Sema on
various dates, and she's knocking these dates out the park.
She's predicting what they're gonna say. It's so uninspiring and boring,
which sometimes that's what dating is, like, uninspiring and boring.
Like you just and I should mention, we don't know
how Seema's meeting these men, because she makes no mention
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of being on a dating app, So I wonder how
she's meeting these men to go on this montage. But also,
Seema is a baddie, so she might be getting meet cutes.
And it's New York City, right, so it's all different
types of people from all different walks of life. Seema
might be getting hit on. I know that I get
a lot of attention in New York City, and I'm
no Sema. I'm sure, but Seema could be getting hit on,
you know, quite frequently. She is a certified baddie. Then
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we get our next scene where Miranda gets a visit
from Joy the brit That's what I have in my notes,
Joy the Brit and she wants all the tea of
Miranda's personal life. Now I laughed out loud at this
because I was like, oh my god, how much of
a hot mess must Miranda's personal life? I mean, we
know because we watched the show, right, we we know
how much of a hot mess her life is. But
could you imagine someone like no, no, no, no no, I don't
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want to get caught up on work. What's new on
the Miranda Show? What type of shit you got going on?
You know? And so Miranda ends up, you know, telling
her about sister Mary, you know, one night stand, and
you know, there's this funny scene where Joy closes the
door and they end up having a conversation like literally
the hot topics, the tea, the hot table talk, that's
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what that's what they end up having. So then we
get this really quick scene of Charlotte getting help from
one of her younger colleagues, and now she's like following
Lois Fingerhood's personal Instagram page. And that's when we also
see LTW. She's in the edit bay for her documentary
and she gets a call from Charlotte and they see
that Lois is at her son, her son's little league game,
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and so ltw and Charlotte they decide to go so
they can catch this woman in person and you know,
state their case. Now, this scene was just so classic
sex in the City to me because and I say
that only because of the optics. Right, So, at this
little league game, all of the parents are dressed like
in Denham and north Face. And then we get these
very fashionable women showing up in stilettos and serving high
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fashion and I loved it. I love the optics, you know,
stay true to the brand. Ladies. They're walking across dirt
and like stilettos. It's great. But they approach the finger
and they state their case. They got thirty seconds to do. So.
Then we get the next scene and it's Lily playing
piano and Diego's there, you know, Lily's new love interest
of this season, and they are locked in to the
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point where Diego's instructor is like, baby, you need to
focus on the dance. You need to focus less on
Lily Golden Black and more on the dance and the curriculum.
But it's so clear that Lily and Diego are feeling
each other. And you know, we see that Charlotte is
calling Lily and Lily's not answering. But in fairness, Lily
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was playing that piano, she was working. She could not answer,
She's in school. And then Charlotte, where am I in
my notes? Charlotte catches them, She catches them kissing passionately
in the stairwell, and Lily, of course goes off because Lily.
Here's the thing. As much as Lily sometimes annoys me,
I love the way that her character is written because
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it shows how she is a function. She is a
direct result, like all of us are for the most part,
but of our parents. We are nothing more than a
rendering of the people who raised us. So if Lily's
crashing out and being snappy and freaking out, I think
it's a symptom. The grace comes in is because Lily
is not only a teenager, but she is also Charlotte's daughter, right,
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So the crashout is gonna be there, It's gonna be epic,
it is going to be uncalled for because I mean,
look at her mama, Look at her mama, And so yeah,
you know, all of this is time sensitive LTW. She
pulls up on Herbert Junior at lacrosse practice and lets
him know that the Thursday is the big day with
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Lois Fingerhood. We then get the next scene, Seema's at
work and she's telling her assistant, you know, because one
of the guys in Seema's dating montage was this guy
named Wolf whose real name was Stan and Sema goes
off on him. But I guess he's trying to like
get her back, and Seema's like, no, tell him to
kick rocks, you know. You know, people in hell will
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be served ice water before I ever respond to him
type thing. And that's when her boss overhears her and
he's like, I hope you're not talking about a client
and she's like, no, I'm talking about this guy when
on a date on and SEMA's boss has a private
meeting with her. Now, how would you all react to this?
I'm curious to know how you would react to this.
I could not imagine a boss or someone that I
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answer to having a private meeting with me about my
personal life in this way, in the way that that
he notes it. Because her boss says that basically, baby,
I'm gonna hook you up with Sidney. Okay, Sidney. Now
Sema does not know that Sidney is a matchmaker, but
I'm gonna hook you up with Sidney because you know,
at this point your love life has pained me in
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physical ways. My head hurt, my hip hurt. I've known
you for too long. This is this is wild and
what I think is again speakpipe dot com slash, We're
just like that. I personally do not think that Seema's
expectations are anything crazy. I don't think her requirements are
anything crazy. And it strikes me as odd that it
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feels like everyone around her is like, oh you you tripping.
You got a little bit too much dip on your chip. Like,
Seema has the right, based on who she is, what
she does, and how she carries herself, she has the
right to have certain you know, checks and balances in
place for for men that she wants to be with.
I don't view Seema as a difficult or complicated woman personally.
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Now if you all disagree, let me know. I do
not view her as a complicated woman. She's a woman
who knows what she wants and it's not her fault
if that's not being reflected back to her I don't
think so, I'm not saying I don't think the Seema's guy,
you know, does not exist. But the fact, I gotta say,
it's not giving me too much hope. The fact that
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she's struggling so much to find someone is just like
whoa okay, because all her cards are on the table,
you know, But nevertheless, shout out to Sydney. I can't
remember her last name. Was it Clusterfuck or something like that,
I can't remember. But she's played by comedy legend and
Saturday Night Live alumnus Sherry O Terry Okay, the icon
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and so but we'll get to that scene, I think
a beat or two after this, because now it's Thursday
and we're back with LTW and Charlotte and their kids
are in a private meeting with Lois food, and Lois
leaves the room to go to the restroom, and so
of course LTW and Charlotte go in to check on Herbert,
Junior and Lily and the kids are in distress. The
(31:11):
kids are not all right. They are freaking out. They
are full on anxiety attacks and hyperventilating, Lily breathing into
a bag, Herbert laying down on the cat like it's
not good, and so they end up explaining Lois's advice.
I guess, in order to get into these schools, and
to get nine kids into Princeton, you have to tell
them what to turn down and turn up. So it's like,
I guess. She tells Herbert that she needs more authentic
(31:33):
black experiences. He comes from such a place of privilege.
And I'm like, that's coded language. Okay, that's very coded language,
because there is no quote unquote black experience. While there
are things that connect all black people together, I believe,
like certain cultural and universal threats that connect us together,
there is no singular one Black American experience. And I'm
(31:54):
saying American because I'm talking about Black Americans. We are
all so diverse and so different. But she even tells Lily,
you know, don't bring up you know, pianos mundane, and
don't mention that you're Asian or adopted. Charlotte of course
crashes out, fuck Lois, fucking finger rock. I have that
in caps. But as Charlotte is crashing out, Lois is
(32:17):
done in the restroom. Honey, Lois is in the doorway,
and she hears all of this, and she leaves and
you know LTW and Charlotte. They're kind of scrambling. Do
you want your truffles? You know, oh, I miss folk.
And Lois is done with them. She walks out and
she says, good luck with Debbie. And you know, Debbie
is the lesser of the two, at least in these conversations.
Lois is the creme de la creme. You know, Lois
(32:39):
is that bitch and Debbie that's that on Debbie. Then
we get our next scene. Seema is on a date
with a man named Jake, and you know, in her
consultation with Sydney, Sidney, you know, kind of critiques Seema's
personal style of you know, her metallics and her animal print.
But that's to me, that's cultural. I don't look at
Sema is not a tacky woman. To me, I'm gonna
(33:00):
defend her, okay. But it's interesting because on this date
her hair is strained, so that wave isn't there that
we're used to seeing Sema with. She has a blowout
and it's a bit it's more of a conservative blowout, right,
It's not the blowout that she got in previous seasons,
Like this is more of a bit of a conservative
blowout and she's in her pearls, in her pastells, and
(33:24):
it seems like Sema is really giving this a fair chance.
But we know she can tow up because this is
this is inauthentic to who she is. She's a type
a personality, you know she is. She is an alful woman.
I hate that phrase, but she is an alful woman.
And I noticed that Jake says during this date, he says,
(33:44):
I feel like I've been talking the entire time. You're
a wonderful listener. And again I hate Well, you know,
I'm gonna weave myself into my own damn show. Okay,
I have heard this. I also know in my personal
experience that men loved to talk about themselves. They love
to hear themselves speak, and so I know that that
(34:06):
has been when I reflect on some of my past experiences. Honestly,
that's been the function of some of them. And the
function what I mean when I say that is like
literally me being a sounding board or an armchair therapist,
and there's no reciprocity there. There's no reciprocity because I
might not feel safe enough like this is me years ago,
(34:29):
or that's just the precedence that's set with the relationship
is that I serve to sit across from you, or
be on the phone with you, or spend time with
you in the capacity of someone to bounce ideas off
and be a sounding board and an armchair therapist. And
you don't give a damn what I got going on.
That's not a good feeling. That's not a good feeling.
But I took note when he was like, you know,
(34:50):
you're such a wonderful listener, Like he doesn't see anything.
This is the type of woman that he wants right
as we'll see. But Sema, she ends up breaking do
this because, as I mentioned, it's inauthentic to the core
of who she is, and she admits that she's not
normally this quiet and agreeable. She lays all of her
cards out on the table and she hates the cabernet
(35:11):
he chose, and Tara Massou is, so you know, yesteryear,
what have you? This is something that I want to
ask you all, because Denver is not here to copilot
with me today. How do you feel about people ordering
for you on dates? I think about white chicks, of course,
when you know Terry Cruse is out with Marlon Wayne's character,
and he's like, for the lady, perhaps a salad. She's like,
(35:33):
perhaps not, and she goes to order half the menu.
But I'm curious to know what you all, regardless of sexuality,
regardless of gender, how do you feel about being, in
particular romantic dates in someone ordering for you, especially if
there is no prior discussion as to like what you want.
(35:57):
If before I give you my opinion, maybe we'll touch
on this next week. I want to know what you
all think about someone ordering for you. And you can
also write in and say it. But yeah, that's just
something something that I noted. But yeah. So she ends
up putting all her cards out on the table and
he thanks her. He says he admires her honesty. This
is a direct quote. There's nothing sexier than an honest woman.
(36:20):
And then he excuses himself to the restroom. And I
have in my notes that I knew some bs was
afoot when he excused himself to the restroom. I didn't
fully trust that. But as soon as he goes to
the restroom, Sidney appears. Sidney's there on the date, and
Sema has no idea, seems like, what are you doing here?
And Sidney's like, I go on all of the dates,
the initial dates that I hooked my clients up with.
(36:42):
But while Sidney is talking to Sema at this table,
she gets a text message like Seema's like this is
going great. Jake just actually just excuses himself to the restroom,
like he'll be back, and Sidney's like, no, he won't, No,
he won't. He text her and he actually ended up
leaving the date and he told her he has enough
challenge at work. I guess he's not looking for that
in his personal life. But also, Seema dodged a damn
(37:05):
bullet because this was so cowardly. You're a grown ass man.
If you want to excuse yourself from the date, you
need to use your words, right. You said, I'm such
a good listener. You spent up most of the time
of this date talking about yourself. So if you want
to excuse yourself, or if this is not going in
the direction that you would have preferred it to go,
or you're not enjoying yourself, you need to be a
man and put your big boy pants on and tell
(37:27):
me that. You need to face me and tell me
that don't excuse yourself to the bathroom and stick me
with the bill you lose her, Like I was, like,
Seema dodged a bullet. But anyway, Seema ends up going off,
well she doesn't go off, but she basically dumped Sidney,
the dating coach, the matchmaker, and she leaves. You know, Sidney,
you can stay here. I'm not doing this. I'm not
(37:47):
compromising who I am at my core to Like, love
is important to Seema, but I don't think it's that
important where she could trade in who she is for
the sake of having a man. And there was a scene,
you know, so it was unspoken. There was nothing really
said during the scene. But a few beats earlier, we
see Sema, you know, doing her nighttime routine. But she's
(38:08):
headed to her bed, you know, after putting on her
moisturizers and motions and potions, and she stops in front
of her bed and looks at it because it's just
an empty bed. It's an empty bed. It's just her
climbing into it. So I think that was a sobering moment,
and it speaks to the desires of her heart. It
speaks to what she wants, you know, what she wants
for herself. So yeah, We then get the next scene.
(38:31):
Carrie and Miranda are back at this Mexican restaurant I'm guessing,
and they're having tableside guak prepared by the waitress. We
learned that the waitress's name is Ava in this scene.
But Carrie clocks, she clocks in real time that, oh,
this isn't a real lunch date, Mariah, I said, Mariah,
Miranda just has me here as a wingwoman aka a
(38:52):
guacamole beard, so that Miranda can chit chat with Ava.
Miranda's clearly like smin and you know, she's chit chatting
with Ava and they're having a great time. I should
mention Miranda and Avar are totally locked in about this show.
Carrie is still ruminating on the communication hiccups and frustrations
with Aiden, and understandably because I should mention Aiden after
(39:12):
he sent that thumbs down emoji. There's been no correspondence,
no follow up, no solution, no compromise, no. Well, this
table gets a thumbs down from me, but what about
this is the one that I like? You know, it's
a thumbs down, Like it's just I don't know, I
do not like Aiden. Let me go on record and
say that now. Oh my god, Oh my god. You
(39:33):
see how the wind changes. Like I was a fan
of Aiden in the Sex and the City Show, but
in just like that, at this current station in chapter
that he is in his life. At one point I
was excited about him and Carrie, and now I'm ready
for him to go, like I'm tired of him because
his priorities. And I get it, trust me, I get it.
(39:54):
I am not diminishing the relationship or priority between parent
and child or or parent and kid if you will,
or young adult. But this is just not a fit
for Carrie. I will put it that way. I'll put
it that way. I do not like Aiden for Carrie.
So I'm not gonna say I don't like Aiden. I
don't like him for Carrie. This is just a clear
(40:17):
mismatch and they both need to cut their losses and
move on because they're wasting time. They really are. So
she's still frustrated. She's still frustrated, and Carrie then excuses
herself to the restroom and from there this is where
things go left. And of course I want to hear
(40:39):
from you all with this. But Miranda ends up going
in for the kill with Ava, and what I mean
when she says goes in for the what I mean
when I say goes in for the kill? Miranda invites
Ava like she hits on her, and then invites her
out on a date, like invites her out, would you
like to grab drinks? Sometimes? And that's when Ava drops
the ball. She drops the bomb if you will. She
reveals that she is straight, and she is married and
(40:59):
she has two kids. And Miranda said, oh, oh, you know,
I assumed that you were queer because of you know,
by bingo and ave a snarkily response that, like it's
a TV show, babe. I watch The Walking Dead and
I'm not a zombie. In my notes, I have ouch
ouch I mean, and I'm curious to know how people
also deal with this. Like you, we can't assume anything.
(41:22):
I don't think it's safe to assume much in this
life personally. This is why you know, you gotta ask questions,
gotta do some digging. But also I felt for Miranda.
That was like taking a bullet Miranda's sister. She just
keeps striking out. I want Miranda to get her happy ending.
And I am so pissed at what the last few
(41:43):
years of Miranda's life has looked like, you know, I'm
I just want her to get her happy ending, because
I feel I love her character, I love Miranda, and
I feel like she she deserves that, and I don't
feel that like what's happening to her, especially so far
two episodes in. I don't necessarily and I don't h
I don't. I don't necessarily look at any of this
(42:04):
as her fault, like it's not. It's not your fault
when you keep striking out, like I feel like she's trying.
She's trying throw her bone, throw her a bone, cut
her some slack. Yeah. So then we get Carrie in
the bathroom and she is trying to gather her thoughts
to send aiden you know this message, but she ends
(42:25):
up conceding to just sending an eye roll emoji, which
I mean, girl, I get it, I get it, I
get it. And now as we round out the episode,
we get you know, the classic walk and talk with
Miranda and carry they're chatting. I should also mention I
really liked Carrie's outfit during this day, like the she
was wearing like this, like kind of like tan nude shirt.
(42:48):
I liked the dinner, like I really liked this outfit,
Like that's something I would wear in my personal life. Truly,
I loved Carrie's outfit. She looked so fab But they're
walking and talking and Miranda reveals that she has a
crush on Joy. Remember Joy is the British woman from
earlier and so. But Miranda says she doesn't like mixing
business with pleasure. Carrie tells her she's over thinking it.
(43:09):
People meet through work all the time. So my train
of thought with this is I align more with Miranda.
That's just my personal thought. I do not believe in
shout out to TJ. Holmes and Amy Robot. I don't
believe in it. Like things at work can get so sloppy,
and as Miranda notes, like if she opens a door
to something with Joy, she can't just like stop coming
(43:31):
to Joy's restaurant, Like they work together in a professional capacity,
and there is something scary about that. And I do
know that love requires risk and vulnerability. But I'm like,
maybe I've missed out on some of my blessings because
work is just off limits to me. It's just off limits.
I don't know if I'll ever now I'm not planning
my feet in the sand with that because like I said,
(43:53):
you just never know if things might get so impassioned
or you look up and at the copy machine and
there's a meat cute. You just never know. And I've
seen it happen. I've seen success stories. I know people
in LA that have met at work and who are
you know, engaged or married? Like it's possible, but is
it worth the risk? Like I feel like we have
(44:15):
it's our responsibility to be discerning, and I guess it's
case by case. Scenario is case by case, work situation,
case by case, city and environment. But for me, it's
just I don't know if that's the capricorn and me speaking.
I just even though Michelle and Barack met it work
and she was like his supervisor, like he answered to her, Hmm,
(44:39):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I
just I'm more of the train of thought with Miranda,
with this like joy would totally be off limits to me,
totally totally, especially with like I'm not initiating. I might
entertain if joy knocks, I might answer, but I'm not initiating.
Maybe that's what it boils down to for me. I
(45:00):
don't know, I don't know. Nevertheless, we get Carrie, where
am I at? In my notes? We're wrapping things up,
you all, we're wrapping things up. Carrie is headed home
and she can't well. Now she is at home and
she can't seem to find Shoe. Remember we can't. She
keeps trying to get outside and we can't let Shoe
out and she runs into a cute man. I should
(45:23):
mention that she goes home. She leaves Miranda to go
meet with a garden contractor because remember her backyard is
busted and dusted and crusted, and she wants to bring
that romance air quotes. She wants to bring that romance,
that moving art, that beauty, those colors back into her backyard.
So she goes home to meet this this garden contractor,
(45:45):
and she can't find you. And then that's when she
meets I think this guy's name is Adam Gardens. Did
I do a typo? I don't know. But she meets
Adam Gardens and he has Shoe and that happens to
be the guy that she has the meeting with, and
there's some light flirting going on, which sometimes happens. I
didn't notice in this scene that Carrie did not once
(46:05):
bring up Aiden right, it's now my house, my backyard,
my garden. It's not all of the us in our conversation.
And I do think I have a prediction that Carrie,
we're gonna gag because the alarm password is gonna be changed.
Remember in episode one, the password to turn off the
alarm was carrying aiden. I think we're gonna gag. And
(46:26):
I don't know if it's gonna be overt. I think
we're just gonna look up and you know, Miranda's gonna
be like, oh, shoot, what's the password? The alarm's going off,
and Carrie's like Carrie one on one, you know type thing.
I don't know. I don't know. I'm just throwing stuff
out there. But anyway, again poetry in motion, call me Corny.
So she meets this cute guy. He is cute. There's
some light flirting going on, and I said in my notes,
(46:48):
I said, could this be something new with carrying a
new love interest. He mentioned that he's a native New Yorker. Well,
she mentions that, like Ah, a native New Yorker, he's
Greenwich Village born and raise. And I have these quotes because,
like I said, call me Corny, I'm still a girl
I relate to girls like Carrie and like women like
Jennifer Lopez. Right, they don't let life slow them down.
(47:10):
They believe in love, and they're unafraid of risks. So
I'll read these quotes to you because I thought that
they were I was like that damn writer's room. H
they know how to tuget my little heartstrings. So this guy,
Adam asked Carrie. He said, Carrie, what's your ultimate vision
for this space? Carrie has no idea, and Carrie responds,
I loved everything it as it was, but now that's
(47:34):
all changed, so I don't know what comes next. Sorry.
The lover girl in me is squealing because these are
it's metaphors, it's metaphors. And he responds by saying, I
think that's exciting because what's meant to be has the
space to show up. My god, my god, my god,
my god, my god. That is some excellent writing. That
(47:57):
is some excellent writing. Ugh, I love it. I love it.
And then you know, Carrie then goes up her winding
stairwell and we get this long stanza, this long third
person stanza that I didn't care to write down. But
the episode ends. The episode ends. Predictions you know what.
In the name of time, and because my co pilot,
(48:20):
my co host, Denver is not here, I am going
to save my predictions and instead this is a call
to action for you all listening to let me know
your predictions. I know I've prompted you all like twenty
times during this episode, but it's because I'm flying solo,
so just call in. You know, we air them all
unless they're wildly inappropriate. But yes, let us know your predictions.
(48:42):
I rate this episode. This episode was a solid like
eight point five out of ten for me. I really
enjoyed this episode and I feel like it got the
motion moving right, Like if this is episode only, episode two,
you know, the season seems a little promising, so it
got it moving. In the meantime, be sure to like, rate, subscribe,
(49:02):
hit us up, let us know what's going on. And
until next week, Denver will be back and we will
be co hosting, and until next week we will we
will chat then okay, and just like that, we're out
of here. Remember speakpipe dot com slash We're just like that,
all right. Bye,
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