August 4, 2025 • 54 mins
What a memorable afternoon that was! The Wests Tigers trounced those high-flying Bulldogs at Parramatta.
In some of the worst conditions seen at the football in recent memory, Wests Tigers raced out to a commanding lead and managed to hold on for a much-needed two points.
The 28-14 win, and with the bye this weekend, should be enough to ensure that the Wooden Spoon run is over at our club! Hallelujah!
On this edition of the Wests Tigers Podcast, Joel is joined by Steve and Nick to go over the good, bad, and the ugly from Sunday afternoon in the rain.
Some of the specific topics include:
A bit of controversy also comes up on the agenda on this pod, including the Alex Seyfarth sin-bin, and why Stephen Crichton didn't get a sit-down after his high shot.
Joel brings up some ongoing concerns over the form of Fonua Pole, Nick has a go at the effort made by Royce Hunt, and we touch on the rather silly video posted after the game by Brent Naden.
And just like the other Wests Tigers fans present at CommBank Stadium on Sunday, Steve lets our former five-eight have it with a spray for the ages!
We hope you enjoy this post-victory edition of the Wests Tigers Podcast and we look forward to this weekend's bye, and to seeing you joining us soon on the Wests Tigers Podcast Forum!
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In some of the worst conditions seen at the football in recent memory, Wests Tigers raced out to a commanding lead and managed to hold on for a much-needed two points.
The 28-14 win, and with the bye this weekend, should be enough to ensure that the Wooden Spoon run is over at our club! Hallelujah!
On this edition of the Wests Tigers Podcast, Joel is joined by Steve and Nick to go over the good, bad, and the ugly from Sunday afternoon in the rain.
Some of the specific topics include:
- The scintillating performance from Adam Doueihi
- The reports that we've now offered AD a two-year contract
- Sione and Samuela Fainu's huge contribution to the result
- How Jahream Bula adds so much to the Tiger's attack
- And the Wests Tigers remarkable 78% completion rate in attrocious conditions.
A bit of controversy also comes up on the agenda on this pod, including the Alex Seyfarth sin-bin, and why Stephen Crichton didn't get a sit-down after his high shot.
Joel brings up some ongoing concerns over the form of Fonua Pole, Nick has a go at the effort made by Royce Hunt, and we touch on the rather silly video posted after the game by Brent Naden.
And just like the other Wests Tigers fans present at CommBank Stadium on Sunday, Steve lets our former five-eight have it with a spray for the ages!
We hope you enjoy this post-victory edition of the Wests Tigers Podcast and we look forward to this weekend's bye, and to seeing you joining us soon on the Wests Tigers Podcast Forum!
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/wests-tigers-podcast--6660380/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's the West Tigers Podcast and it is a post
victory edition of the podcast. And they are always the
most fun to have. We're going to have a little
bit of fun with the one word submissions from me
in a moment. I hope it's fun. Hope it doesn't
go down like a lead balloon. We'll see how we go.
Steve's here and Nick's here. Steve one word for that
(00:45):
performance at a paramatter yesterday afternoon which you attended.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Determined Joel from kickoff to final whistle, determines all seven
named players, us a coach, coaching staff, twenty six fans
that were determined to get a victory.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah. That's a good one, yep. And that came through
on the television. I think Nick watched it on TV
as well. Your one word, Nick.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I did.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Joel unfortunately wasn't there, But Mate, I couldn't. I couldn't
settle on one word. I've got a few. I thought
intensity initially, because I thought we played with a great
deal of intensity for the whole eighty minutes. Bog was
another one to film as an absolute pig style. Wore
a gamber. Another one looked like wore a gamber. Damage
just flooded onto combat.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
There happiness.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
It's probably the happiest I've been on a Sunday for
a long time. It was just a really nice way
to end the weekend. Pride, not the rainbow flag, but
I was just had an extremely fulfilling sense of pride,
and fulfilling is the one I settled on. It was
just a really fulfilling afternoon and really happy to watch
the way we played that game against the Dogs.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's sometimes the word bog would be appropriate to use
for West Tiger's performance. All right, twenty eight to fourteen
was the final score. I've taken some liberty, as I
always do. I've got three words for my first one word,
I've got wet weather football. It was really a day
(02:12):
of wet weather football. As you say, I couldn't believe
the amount of water that was on the pitch sprinklers, Steve,
I think I've worked out how we went at Campbelltown.
What we need to do is turn the sprinklers on,
or get industrial grade sprinklers and run them for three
or four days before the Tiger's next play at Campbelltown.
It certainly I don't think it hurt the West Tigers
(02:32):
style playing in a slow.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Slogout, absolutely, Joel, and I've got that down as you know.
You know, we look at how we won that game.
We'll get into it later, so I don't want to
steal a thunder for later on the pod. But the
weather certainly helped us. It slowed the game down considerably.
And we struggle against teams that build momentum and off
(02:59):
quick play the ball and spread the ball quickly effectively,
and obviously in that game can be weren't able to
do that.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
At all, and it helped us to know end.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I've also got physicality in there. I thought our physicality
in the first half was really, really good. Maybe he
fell off a little bit in the second half. And
I've got Dumb and Dumber and Brent Nadan talking about
Lockie again. Brent Naden gets dumb and yeah, but Adam
Dewey gets dumber, and I don't mean that, I mean
(03:31):
it in a positive sense. So I'm channeling Harry and
Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber and instead of it being
you know, just when I think you couldn't be any
more stupid. In Dewey's case, it's just when I've written
you off, you go and do something like this and
totally redeem yourself. It was just an incredible performance from
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Adam Dewey Nick. I mean, I know the conditions might
have suited, but still best player on the field. I
don't know where that came from, and unless it's contract
talk that helps, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
I did hear in the postmatch interview. I can't remember
who said it. One of the Tiger's boys said that
during the week, though it might have been Jerome said
there were teasing him a training saying he was playing
for a contract this week. But he certainly played that way.
He really stood up. And one thing that I did
take note and see across the TV coverage was the
way ad was talking to the players when they're.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
In a huddle just before I went off at halftime.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
He was screaming and Jerome was just sitting or sitting
next to him Biten's tongue, you know, listening to every word.
So yeah, great game from ad.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I mean he really took this, took it by
the scruff of the neck and that I got that
in my notes to make that point. He really looked
like he was leading the team. Steve, There's I mean,
I up until last week was sort of saying, I'm
not fast if he goes We've got Madden when going
in a different direction. Now it's turned around two year
contract for Dewey. Where do you sit with it all?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
After that performance, I'm no different to what I was
last week on the pod. I said that I'd be
offering him something. I think he's you know, I wouldn't
have said seven obviously. I think he could be a
thirteen for us if he has the mindset to play
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thirteen for us, I think he could do that. His
defense has been a weakness historically for us, and at
thirteen he's got to pump out eighty minutes of you know,
a lot of tackling. So I'm not sure that he's
up for that, but he seems to be. His defense
has improved a lot this year. But he does offer
us the versatility of jumping in at half back when
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it's needed. And you know, I thought that was a
master stroke by Benji. It wasn't a Latu fe U day.
The conditions weren't going to favor him. It was an
intense atmosphere. It could have boiled over. Canterbury could have
lost it, but we also could have lost it. So
I think having that experience head out there from the outset,
(06:00):
helping Appy and Jerome lu and the other leaders of
the team was a really smart move. So yeah, I'm
the same as what I was last week. I'd be
offering him a contract. They've upped it today. They've gone
from one year to two years. I don't know if
the money is any different. I don't think so, but
I'm not sure. You know, he can start at seven
(06:22):
when we need it. I'd still prefer Feinu as our
preferred seven. I still think that's the way we need
to go, and you look at doing it at thirteen.
But if that's not working or case by case, game
by game, game plan by game plan, he's not a
bad option for seven if you need it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Nikki of the same mind, you're happy if he was
to signed a two year contractor The only only reason
I guess I'm saying or would be concerned about it
is if there's somebody that he's blocking that you want
to maybe play as a specialist in say, if we
were to buy lock all by, I mean we presume
Madden is it going to be in the argument for
(07:04):
the harvest? Like, where do you sit with it? I
still I don't want to lose him now, but I
don't know where how it plays out. Yeah, I'm the same.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I know we've been talking about ad playing thirteen most
of the year, or he'd be definitely a candidate to
play thirteen, and we haven't had a great look at
it yet. And we've always spoken about whether his defense
could hold out to that sort of role, especially for
long periods during a match, And I guess that's yet
to be seen and yet to be judged. But I
(07:34):
mean what he showed on Sunday, you know, like you said, Steve,
he's a perfect feeling in seven if we need him.
He's played seven before and for many many you know
times or many many times in the past. Gary said
he doesn't want to see in play seven again. But
he did a really good job. And I actually think
it was a pretty pretty impressive master stroke there from Benji.
(07:56):
Before that game, I did share the team I know
to Eddie in a chat yesterday before kickoff, and I
said some interesting changes there, and I know Eddie was
a bit perplexed and said, you know, I had some
question marks over what they were doing, but you know,
those conditions probably did suit a long kicker, and Ad
is the longest general play kicker in our team. We
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needed all of that extra carry on the general play
kicks to get as much you know, down the field
sort of medias as possible, and we probably needed to
show up the middle a bit too, the way that
the Bulldogs play, although you know, as we've said that
wet Track was a great level of yesterday. So i'd
like to see Ad stick around. It really depends on
what they've offered him, not so much money wise and
(08:38):
length wise, but maybe position wise, and what he's been
told that he's going to be. You know what number
he's going to have on in the back of the
jersey next year. It's not going to be starting halves.
Where else do you put him? If it's not starting thirteen?
It's a bench roll, and I don't think he's going
to want to be a bench player, So I don't
know which way it's going to go. I think he's
(08:59):
got a lot of value, so i'd like to see
him stay the wait and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, I just want to say there, like NICKI said,
like filling half. Yeah, he can be a filling half,
absolutely if we get an injury at half four or
five and he can fill in. But yesterday there was
no feeling about it. Right. It was a specific tactic
to take a bigger body with a bigger kicking game
and experienced player, a guy who talks a lot out
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into a war zone that was going to be tough
and going to be hard. And it wasn't the sort
of day where Ladu Feinu was going to excel. His
acceleration off the mark was totally totally wiped out by
the conditions. So to me, like, I'm excited about what
happened because I think it was great to see Benji
(09:46):
modify his game plan based on the conditions and the
opposition and pick a team a starting thirteen specific to
the needs on the day. Right, And I've been concerned
that he hasn't done that a lot, and I agree
with him.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Where do your partner?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I think utility fourteen he can play that now, whether
he wants to or not, I don't know. I think
he'd be a great fourteen for us, if not thirteen,
but he's starting to convince me. And look, he's done
this before, you know, and he can go and have
a month of very average football. He's got to get
that out of his system, not do that. But he's
(10:22):
starting to convince me that he can make it as
a thirteen and would be a good thirteen for us
because we do struggle when we are just dependent on
our seven and six. He gives us that, he gives
us that extra body in at first receiver as a thirteen,
maybe down the down the blind side, down the short side,
taking the first pass and just giving.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Lui and giving what's the other.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
One it's his name, Feanu Fainnure more space to get
a little bit wider and get them to straighten the attack.
So yeah, I'm more and becoming more and more convinced.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's an incredible story when you think about the injuries
that he's had and the position or changes that he's had,
that he still keeps finding another gear. It's really regardless
of what we think of him as a footballer, but
it stands to his character in his fight where he
was a couple of years ago, nobody would have blamed
him if he walked away, so it's quite a remarkable story.
(11:23):
Let's have a look at the West Tiger's podcast forum.
Lots and lots of activity in the last week, which
is great to see. So keep it coming and join
up if you haven't already, and have your say. The
one word submissions from the West Tigers podcast forum tigertown
SFS their word was Dewey. Canberra Tiger's word was boo.
And I don't think that's like a ghost, but I
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think that's like a boo because I heard a lot
of that coming through on the channel and on the
Fox coverage, and I didn't have to have the sound
turned down because it was Warren Smith and Cooper Kronk,
who I can sort of tolerate, but if it was
some other common I wouldn't have heard any of those boosts.
Mike's word was contract, give the man a contract. We presume, Mike,
(12:07):
that you're talking about Dewey. And on the rich ometer,
Mike said, we were average, and I'm okay with average.
I'm okay if we're average every week till the rest
of the year. That gives you something to build off.
Tigersman's word was inspired and inspired performance from Adam Dewey.
Natmac seventy eight contribution was team we played like one
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for eighty minutes. Tiger seventy's word was coach no doubt,
giving Benji a rap for his coaching. Caid's seventy nine
word was Gutsy had a crack and it was a
solid effort across the park. JH ninety eight's word was justice.
Osmo's seven said desire. The team showed a desire to
win over the page. Tiger Steu Dewey the heart of
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the team, and there is still some hope for a
semi finals appearance. But I don't quite know about that.
It's Tiger's du but I like your optimism.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'll just I'll just say, Tigers, you I'm with your mate,
because this morning when I was edaweet bix, I was
I was looking through the drawer.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And I was saying, you're doing the matter.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Who are the dolphins playing?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Chris's word was claws out. Tiger symmetry revenge and it
is a meal best served cold and wet. Pat Walker
moist the rain makes us play better.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
C Q.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Tiger's word was pride. Tiger fifty one to fifty resilience.
Our resilience and fight forced the dogs into lots of errors.
Rachel nine satisfaction. It was the most satisfying win we've
had for some time. I'd agree with that mercy rule.
Buller an out and out star enumerator, Adam, what a game,
Teddy s diamonds, But who knows what we'll get next week.
(13:49):
Mac Tiger's word was happiness this week and next. Yeah,
it's always good to have a win going into a bye.
That's always a lovely luxury. Redman their word was one
or their number was one. The one game we get
some calls from the ref Tiger's eye Bravo, typical Tigers win.
We couldn't put them away, and they took a couple
of years off our lives. I was getting a bit
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bit worried in that second half. Dirty Red's word was scrap.
We kept it simple, worked hard and took our chances.
Lorenzo their word was feinus. Both Samuela and Sioni their contributions.
Barra's word coached, Benji got one over Sialdo and last
but not a snake. Professional. They performed as a professional unit.
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And Nick, that's something that struck me somewhat when I
was watching the game, is that quite often when you
compare us to other teams, they look like a a team.
They look like a team that's in a They have
a synergy, they kind of know what they're doing and
they're working as won and sometimes I feel like when
not that, But in that game against the Bulldogs, I
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actually felt like there was some degree of team work,
that there was some degree of connectedness.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Spot on Joel. I was worried the first five or
six minutes when it was all the Dogs, and when
Terrell dropped the kickoff, I thought, oh, I know, here
we go. You know, I was expecting the Dogs to
be six l up after sixty seconds, But after the
first five minutes the intensity was there. I think Taruva
took a twenty meter tap restart and ran about fifteen
(15:21):
meters and I think unfortunately Skelton dropped. I think we
Skelton dropped the ball the very next play. But I
mean apart from and there were a lot of errors
on both sides, but apart from the wet weather areas
that happened across at eighty minutes, we were really good
and where we'd had deficiencies over the past, and I'm
not talking past weeks, but like past months, if not years,
like where we were weak on our especially right edge,
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and I know Skelton flipped from left to right, but
I thought we were a lot stronger defensively out wide
as well. And I guess the conditions have a bit
to do with that as well, But I didn't see
as much backing off in defense and not as much,
you know, being intimidated by the attack. And again maybe
that's just the heaviness of the of the field and
the speed that the attackers are coming at here. But
(16:04):
I thought we played with a lot more unity and
a lot more cohesion and maybe, right, maybe we just
need to flood every ground that we play, at least
every home ground that we have advantage of, because yeah,
we're clearly mud rounders.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
We'll go and play in the north of England. We
need to join the super It might be beatable.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Happened really?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah? Yeah? I was going to jump ahead and ask
the question. With eight wins now sitting on twenty points
and a buy coming our weight so twenty two points, Steve,
are you are you confident enough to say that the
wooden spoon era for the West Tigers is over.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Absolutely, we won't get the Wooden Spoon now, not not
with that. That was a four point win. Yeah, with
that and the by and we've got a couple of
very minorable games. You know, We've got the Titans again.
They playing they're playing better football, but I'm not sure
they'll sustain it. We've got Manly, We've got Cowboys, So
(17:03):
I'm expecting still a couple more.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Wins for this season.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
And I think in the wash up, when you think
of the season we've had and the you know, the
trouble that we've been through with Galvin, I think it's
probably not a bad you know, at the end of
the day, we'll look at that season. We'll look at
it two ways. We'll say what if, because we're very
close to being a top eight side, But we can
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also look at the season and say, yeah, we've done Okay.
I think we're going to finish a fair way from
the Wooden.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Spoon because the next the games that are remaining, Nick,
I think they will define our season to a large degree,
Like if we win those games, or we win we
win three out of four, whatever it might be as
compared to if we just that's it for the year.
We pack it up. We just coast home to then.
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I think that changes the whole context of the success
of the year. And I think they're really important games
for the club to get the buy to keep this
momentum going into next year.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Probably more important now than if you had of us
the same question a week or two ago, because I
know before the last pod that we did a week ago,
before the Bulldogs game, I was very concerned that we
wouldn't win another game for the rest of the year,
you know, after the way that we didn't turn up.
I suppose against Penrothorp. Perhaps we were just outplayed against Panthers.
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You know, I was wondering where we were going to
get that win from. And I know Eddie said, you know,
we should beat the Titans, and we should beat the Cowboys.
But when it's the West Tigers, you never should beat anyone.
You've got to earn a win, regardless of who you're playing,
where you see it in the ladder and most teams
as we all know above us. But yeah, I mean
it's week to week, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Now.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
We've beaten the Bulldogs, which I didn't expect. I think
a lot of people didn't expect, so now the expectations
go up. Now we're talking about you know, we should
win probably fifty percent of our games going in, but
you know what we're like. We may come after the
buy against Manly and be a little bit off and
lose that one. Hopefully not, but you're right, the potential
is there to win two or maybe three games coming
(19:09):
in and who knows, we might have been scrapping at
night if we can get that high up. But it's
looking a lot better than seventeenth.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
We win every game we can finish eighth. Don't write that.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
They getting too excited, Steve, They've.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Done the math.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Benji. Benji mentioned a lot in his press conference. I
thought it was a really good press conference, but the
one thing he said that I really stuck with you.
I thought it was fantastic, and he said, we've got
to work out why we can't do this every week.
And that's to your point too, Jol, of how we
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finished the season. You know, I've made no secret of
the fact that the last two three years, I've been
literally disgusted with the way we have finished the season.
The absolute limp way we've performed over the last month
or six weeks even where it looked as if no
(20:06):
one could give a toss, you know, and it was,
and you know, I thought to myself and umber times, well,
why the hell should I care? Why should I buy
a membership next year when I've got to watch this
rubbish right at the end of our seasons have been terrible.
It's not going to happen this year. It's not going
to happen with this group no way. Like we mightn't
we might win, we mightn't even win fifty percent of
(20:28):
the remaining games. I don't know running games, but there's
going to be effort. But this team have put in
effort every single week. But we do have to ask
that question because another word could be frustration. And we
don't want to put a negative spin on what's been
a very positive weekend, But why why are we not
able to get up? Like you can't get up that
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much every week? You can't, right, but you should be
able to Like the gap between that and where we
usually run under a field at has got a has
got a lesson, right that that GAP's got to get
closer because they're first grade football team and a professional
and you know, maybe it's the mindset. You know, they
(21:09):
ran out there with their with you know, apart from Tower,
pulling out with the best seventeen we can field. So
maybe there's a confidence there. I don't know, but they
are a good football side. They're not far away from
being a very competitive football side. Why can't they do
that week on week? Maybe the answer is in the
fact that we're still short, you know, a couple of
(21:32):
top liners and three or four backup players. Maybe that's
the answer, but it is frustrating when you see that
effort compared to, as you said, Nick, what we saw
against penrithle week before.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
One thing I was going to add in sleep, but
you covered it already is the fact that one to
seventeen and we were just about, you know, as good
as it gets on Sunday against the Dogs one to seventeen.
And we spoke about the very beginning of the year
when you put it on paper best one to seven
looks like but we all thought, I think most of
us thought, we have the capability play finals. And it
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goes back to looking at the results across the course
of the year, all those type ones that we've lost,
and yes we've lost games and we've won a few
by not many points as well. But again, if you
start looking at those games that we lost by two
or four points and convert those into wins, all of
a sudden, we're you know what.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Do we eight?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
We're very very close to the bottom of the eight.
So I think that's got a lot to do with it,
and maybe the fact that we've been so bad and
so poor for such a long period of time. Maybe
it just comes back to mentality. Maybe it just comes
back to the fact that these guys are still gelling
even though it's now what twenty five or twenty four rounds,
twenty three rounds, whatever it is. In we've had a
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lot of chop changing and positions throughout the season, and
you know, we've got to, you know, almost all the
way through a year, and maybe we have found our
best one to seventeen, with exception of maybe one or
two that could shuffle around. But we're getting there, aren't
We We're very close. I think we saw yesterday and
again there's an asterisk because of the conditions, but I
(23:04):
think we saw a lot of potential of what this
team and club can do going forward.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I think that you know, you can you can see
that Kay Piercepaul will be a nice addition, But yeah,
we're still we're still two or three. We're still two
or three in the forward pack and one on the
bench I think personally. So hopefully those players can be
can shake out of the trees somewhere, as Richo likes
to say, and hey, look what we did last offseason,
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and there's every opportunity and at least we're we're not
buying a whole team. We're just tweaking now, you know,
almost to the point where it's just tweaking, which is fantastic.
I think they're very I think also what I like
about them is that they seem to be a very
connected side. Like socially, there seems to be a brotherhood there.
There seems to be a lot of connection amongst them,
and that's something that you can really work on. It
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was a crazy when you think about the amount of
ex Penrith players that lined up for both sides yesterday.
It was like the Penrith reunion, almost like their twenty
twenty one I think it was grand final team what
was out there and the other thing just quickly Not
that it matters for us, but if you look at
the Bulldogs run. It could have been a really really
costly loss for them because they've got a really tough
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run coming into the finals. Steve your finger.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Up, Yeah, just on what you were saying there, Joel, Like,
we can't, we can't get carried away because we definitely
do still need two or three players in our starting
team to bring us in and the middle being incredibly important. Really,
but what happened yesterday was the weather allowed the game
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to slow down and we're able to compete at a level,
at a pace that we can compete at.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
What happens to us is when we get if we've
got the Bulldogs on a dry track and I watched
I was watching them the week before when they were
shifting left and right so succinctly and so quickly and
so precisely, that would have just torn us apart.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
And whenever we get a team that's got big forwards
that drive through them.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
But it's not just big forwards, it's teams that have
big forwards that land on their stomachs and get up
and play the ball quickly. And when that happens, we
just cannot compete. We go backwards, We go backwards. Our
defensive line gets frazzled and gets caught out, and then
we end up getting beaten on the edge because the
middle of our defensive line is just a mess, right
and everyone's been crammed in and that's what goes wrong.
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So until we can fix that, unless we played twenty
six weeks in the pouring range, you know, we're still
not going to be able to compete at that level.
But you know, a couple of middles and we just
might get there.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
A couple of middles and things look different. Yep.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
I actually wish we had a brought Rice Hunt back
on a dry day rather than yesterday because I had
to look at his stats. I know we've spoken to
it Rice a bit, you know, when he's coming back,
and you've got to get his fitness levels up. I
think I sorry. He played fifteen minutes on Sunday, and
I did watch the replay today, so I think he
was taken off after about five minutes into the second half.
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And during that five minute period, I think he made
one or two hit ups at the most, and that
was about three sets apart. And in between those three sets,
he basically stood in the middle and was just trotting
either back into our attacking line or up into the
defensive line. He really looked like he was just you know,
heavy forwarded, couldn't move, you know, he really struggled in
those conditions. But I love the impact that he had
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earlier in the year. I wish I hope we can
see it again before the season's done. But I really
worry about his future, especially with that mindset, you know,
coming into the club that he was talking about retirement.
So I'm worried might happen with him?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
What might happen with him? Yeah, Well, I mean if
he does retire, like and it's his decision, and that's
that's perfectly okay. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if
maybe the body shape he has is an indication of
his desire to want to continue to play in RL,
or maybe it's something that we've got to nurse him
through to the end of it, to the off season
and he can come back and regroup and rEFInd that fitness.
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But he's a better player than the experience that we've had.
Let's talk about Well, there's a couple of things, but
which way should we go. I'd like to give Siony
Feinu a rap I thought the move into Locke, he
was again excellent and Samuela. Some of the hits that
Samuela hit put on really really impressed by both both
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of those two. And when I start talking about two
or three middles, I think he only takes one of
those spots. But I am really really worried about Polly,
and I know it was wet butt to costly errors
that led to both of the Bulldogs first tries, and
sometimes Steve. There's guys that, you know, look, the goods
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have the odd game but just aren't quite there. And
I'm starting to have my concerns about Fanua.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Well, I think it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Takes time to mature in the middle. You know, it's
not a young person's position. You're not going to be eighteen,
nineteen twenty not knocking the house down in the front row,
that's for sure. So I would like to say not
quite ready yet.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
With Paulo, like.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
He's a first grade he's first grade able, he has
the talent to play first grade. He just doesn't have
the consistency in his game at the moment. We've got
to keep encouraging him, or with the coaching staff have
to keep encouraging him. To be more consistent, trot out
consistent performances that are error free and impactful, because when
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he is impactful, he's very impactful.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
It's just not consistent.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
But I just want to go a bit further with
that because I want to mention Alex tell. I thought
he was super and I think he's having a pretty
good year and he's definitely a better post meter runner
than he has been in the past post contact meter runer,
I should say, than he has been in the past.
(28:59):
I thought Samuela was awesome under the conditions. I just
love the way Lui was feeding Feinu and he was
just running straight at that little gutlass insipid player that
we're going to talk about soon, I hope. And so
I thought I thought twelve was really good. Yes, only
absolutely made typical game. The only guy I'm going to
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be negative one is Seafa. I just thought, you know,
he tries his guts out and Gi he tries his
guts out, and he did some good things, but throwing
a ball at someone's head and then because he was
in a rage in the very next set, slamming his
shoulder intoor bloke's head was absolutely brain dead. Stupid and
could have cost us the game.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
It really could have.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
We're very lucky that it didn't impact usmall more than
it did. I'm not a see if Basha. I'm quite
happy to have him off the bench in the seventeen
a lot of the time, but if he's going to
do stuff like that, like he's got a three week
suspension deservedly, but he if he hadn't got that, I'd
have dropped him if I was coached for next week
because what he did was just absolutely like, if you're
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going to talk about standards with Hunt, you've got to
talk about standards with Seafath.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Well.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
The biggest shame for me on that one, Steve, is
that was the save Fath we saw last year, in
the year before and the year before. Like, he's been
pretty good this season, and I reckon he's pulled his
head in and I actually thought he had a pretty
decent game except for that sixty seconds where he just
went completely brain dead yesterday, you know that trying to
get out of that tackle when he was on the ground. Yeah,
he was pushing, you know, Max King. I think it
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was in the head, which you know, maybe he shouldn't
have in fored a head, but he was trying to
get up and it was also you know, it was
a bit of niggle from King on Savefath too. He
had him on his back and we've talked about it before.
Players know if they target safe Fath, they'll get a bite.
And unfortunately save Fath bit yesterday and we haven't seen
that for a while. And when he put that shoulder
in the next play and got penalized, he could tell
(30:55):
straightaway he knew that he'd stuffed up because he was
banging himself on the forehead. He regretted that instantly, but
you're right, I mean, he shouldn't be doing that. I
still don't think he had a bad game apart from that,
which you're right, Steve could have been a lot more costly.
Thank god it wasn't. I think we actually came out
two points better after that ten minutes spelled that he
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was off the field too. But yeah, Shaman did that
way for him.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
It was the ten minute period where we won the
game like that. That was going to be the leak
of the lose part of the game when he went off.
Here's a liability. There's always that potential with him that
he's going to do that dumb thing. And he has
struggled against the Bulldogs. If you remember last year he
he got ten minutes against the Bulldogs as well, so
they must really know how to how to niggle him.
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But what did we think of the comparison with the
Crichton tackle and no sinbin. I was perplexed that he
didn't get ten minutes. And I know that that player
was falling Taylor May was falling Steve, but I couldn't
believe that he didn't get ten.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Now I have to admit, I have to say I
think the refere he got it right. If you're going
to use that word mitigating circumstance like he got. He
did get him in the head, so he got put
on report and I think that was fair enough. But
he did. I think that's the right call. That The
thing is that needs to be consistent, job right. You
need to be coned like when a bloke slips that
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much and then he gets it. There was absolutely zero
intent like there was intent from sea Fath. Sea Futh
deserved the temants in the binn't. I don't believe Crichton
did deserve. But what annoys everyone is we'll turn on
the TV next week and the exact same tackle will
happened to the Black will go to the bin. That's
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that's the issue. But I thought, in isolation, both those
results I felt were correct.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Nick.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I wanted to wing back to you with pole a
just just because I had the question ready for you.
He's played it for a young man, He's played a
lot of NRL and we've used him a lot more
than maybe other clubs would have for a prop at
this point, and Steve israight. It is a part of
the field where you do tend to have to mature in,
you know, would you consider, because he's had it wasn't
(33:05):
just this game, but the last couple of months he's
been a bit shanky, would you give him some time
in State Cup to your southwast comptability's confidence, to just
give him a bit of a chance to sort of
work on his game outside of the limelight.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
No, I wouldn't, because I don't think we've got anyone
worth replacing him in the NRL side. I get the conversation,
but if anything, I'd be making sure that he's only
playing off the bench and maybe playing you know, I
don't know. Twenty twenty five minutes I think he's got
a much bigger, bigger engine than that, but I definitely
think he's worth keeping around for the impact that it
(33:40):
can bring. Yeah, yes, yesterday again or on Sunday was
an ASTERIXK one with those conditions put him on a
dry track. His footwork at the lines incredible. He's so
powerful and he tends to hit the line quite low
as well, like he gets his body down low and
it makes him very hard to put down very quickly
onto his back. So what is he twenty two? Well
(34:00):
something like he's very young, right, but yeah, he's probably
what a props they say props mature at what about
twenty five, twenty six or something. Yeah, so he's got
a long way to go. Yeah, yeah, I'd just reduce
him his workload maybe a little bit, but giving little
things to improve on each week, like his poll security's
won and his defense is another. And I know Steve
Hee was at one of the ambush events that I
(34:20):
attended to come back a little while ago, and he
actually did make a comment that he knew he had
to work on his defense. So I'm sure that he
is working on that and that will come good. Give
him time, it will come good. And he will be.
He will be one of the elite props in the
competition in a few years time.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
One of the big talking points from the game was
when it was when the West Tigers team was selected
on Tuesday night. It was the first time that we
had this full spine. And then just before before the game,
Benji made sure that we didn't get the full bull
spine and there was a change. But the reinstatement of
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bringing back or the availability of Duram Buller Steve. Like
I when I first saw him, I could see the
speed and I could see the potential, but I was
a little bit worried, you know, basketball background and the like.
I thought he might potentially be a bit of a
flash in the pan. But in terms of being one
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of the better fullbacks in the NRL, you know, I
think he's continuing to rise to another level all of
the time.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah, he's like we did it. I think we did
a comparison a few weeks ago. We sort of had
him around midpack, you know, if you looked at all
the NRL fullbacks at the moment. But he I think
you're one hundred percent right. He'll keep climbing and I
think he's going to become elite. He's showing all the
signs of it. That Tray score when he took the
pass off de he I was. I watched it again
(35:53):
today on the replay. He actually when do We picked
up the ball, he was actually on the open side
and he looked up.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
He looked.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
He's a footballer, he's got football sense, and he saw
as do We took off, he saw that the defense
was going to come from the from the open side,
from the inside right, so he ran around. He ran
around to the blind side, and he actually did a
real loop to come up on on Do his right
hand side and the blind side, so that do he
could give the ball to him on that side where
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the defense wasn't going to be, which gave him a
free run to the line. It's only a little thing,
and you might say it's just common sense, but he
did it right. He saw it, and he acted and
reacted and he was so good for us, you know
yesterday coming out of our end. Just just his carries
out of him were just absolutely fantastic. And I know
(36:44):
it was wet, and there was a couple of times
there where opposition players slipped over its b can you know,
you don't even.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Run it what's in front of you.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
He was.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
He just gives us another point of attack too, right.
He makes the opposition think more about what we're doing
with the football.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
And that's that's only a good thing.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Took the words right out of my mouth, Steve. I
was just about to jump in and say the decision
he puts it in the defensive line when when he's
running around the back of a play, you can see
it like he's that dangerous and that good player that
you know. He makes the defensive teams or defensive structures
think twice about what they're going to do where they
commit to the front line of attackle whether they you know,
(37:24):
second guess and wonder what bull is going to do
out the back. But yeah, he's he's such a quality player.
I did question, maybe it might have been a month
or so ago, about whether he was worth the nine
hundred thousand or whatever his contract is, like the option is,
but I'll tell you what I'd pay it. Like he's
a player we have to keep. We cannot let him go.
It's another James Tedesco in my eyes, Like if we
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lost Buller would be up Pup Creek to put it,
you know, as simply or as politely as I can.
And the one thing I'll add on to that, Steve,
you said you watched the replay at the end of
the game when Lucky Galvin came up and you know,
he was having a shook dream Buller's hand and they
were having a great chat. And yes their ex teammates,
but they spent a lot of time talking to each other.
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If you remember, a couple of weeks ago, Buller was
photographed in the Bulldogs camp at one of the Bulldogs
games in the members section or the players are or
whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Not only was.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
He having a great, deep and meaningful with Lockey Galvin
on Sunday evening after the game, but all the Bulldogs
players came up and shook his hand and they all
said more than nice game. They also said, you know,
quite a few words to him. Just made me a
little bit scared that he's not getting in too tight
with the Bulldogs players. I'd hate Field Good to come
and up under our nose again and pinch him. He's
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wondered I would really be worried about losing m I.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Don't know if it was it really even him that
picture I wasn't one hundred percent convinced that it was buller,
but I might be wrong.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I think it was a bit grain.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, it's not a there's no no one has said
hundred percent he was there.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
No, no, a lockness monster, it's there.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Maybe we'll see what happened. We'll see what happens. I
wanted to give Naden. I'll give him one rap. I
mean he was he was enthusiastic and keen all game.
But he did one good thing in particular that I
wanted to highlight, and that was when May was going
out and he planted his feet on the sideline and
he stopped him from going out. I thought that was
(39:20):
very clever. But on the not so clever, the video
bad look for the club, I think. I mean, Steve,
do we the guy is? It is borderline first grade,
like he's fighting for his NRL career. Can you afford
to have someone like this that you just can't trust him?
(39:40):
You know, he's just got this. He has a great game,
He's played himself back into NRL contention and undoes it
all three hours later.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Okay, So I want to say something positive before before
I reply to that. And there was that moment. There
was another moment where he where there was a ball.
Canbury had the ball, they dropped it and he out
enthused two Caniby players to dive on the ball and
I think they were about thirty meters out of attacking
our line, and it was it was a pivotal moment.
(40:09):
So I thought his effort was he didn't let anyone
down yesterday. But in reference to what you're saying, we
interviewed him at the ambush at Campbelltown. This guy was articulate, intelligent,
well spoken.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Well that's articulate, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
He was.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
He had the he.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Had the audience eating out of the palm of his hand.
He was funny, he was engaging, he was enthusiastic, he
wanted to tell stories. He was possibly the best guests
we've ever had. And I wasn't expecting it. I really
wasn't what I saw on video last last night or today. Sorry,
(41:02):
was not that bloke, right. It was a total different character.
And that's the guy that's been letting the real Brent
Naden down.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
His whole career. And you can't do that stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
And I was I was in the minority when I
said that neither Taruve nor lou I should have done
that social media stuff with Lockey Galvin back around.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Around six round seven.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Whenever that happened, it was it was ill disciplined rubbish,
right from two experienced first graders. Well, this was another thing, right,
that whole scenario what they did out in the field,
Like everyone said, oh, it's nothing, don't overreact. Yeah, I
get it, I get that, but you've got to be
more disciplined than that, right, like score a try, put
(41:50):
the ball down right, turn around, job back to the
halfway and do it again right, Save all that crap
for the dressing room afterwards. And what what would Craig
Bellamy's reaction be?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, well, especially when you're coming what third eighth and
you're playing the team that's coming second. Yeah, you got
to be carried about it, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
And I don't want to be negative because there was
so much positive. But there's just been a few instances
this year of that lariism that we don't need, right,
but we don't need that in.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
The club.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
My fear, right, Like it's one thing to do it
on the field, and it was probably a little bit
over the top on the field. I get where they
were coming from. You know, they were pumped up, they
were knocking off a tall poppy, et cetera. Yeah, the
off field video that was posted was done and a
huge mistake. If Naden was playing for Melbourne Storm and
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did the same reaction on social media and that was
captured by the media and people were taking screenshots and videos,
et cetera to make sure it never is deleted. What
would the what would the action beyond Brent laden, it
would be different to the crickets that we're hearing. Yeah,
there'd be some consequences. Yeah, it worries me what may happen.
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Like you said, Steve, he's a real character and he
obviously fits in really well with the boys, and he
had a great game yesterday and more often than not
he shows brilliance on the field as opposed to the stupid,
brain dead mistakes that he makes. And you know, so
he choices but from time to time, but he's an
asset and he's still got some good footing in him.
(43:34):
But yeah, just actions like that, just you know, it
just makes you scratch your head and think, ar out,
why is this happening again? You know, it just puts
a tarnish on the wind that we should just be
sitting here talking about how good it was.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
I remember an interview josh Anakhar did years ago and
I was talking about when he left the Tigers went
to Melbourne. And I don't know whether he done this
at the Tigers or he did it at very early
stages of playing from Melbourne, but he scored a try
and as he was running the last ten meters he
put his hand up in the air and sort of
put his finger up and was signaling into the crowd,
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you know, and had the ball tucked under one arm
and he dived over the line. Well, apparently in the
wash up on the Monday of the Tuesday, Craig Bellamy
got him in the office, showed to the tape to
him and said to him, Josh, you're a great player.
You ever do that, You'll never play first grade year
and yeah, and he just said, he said, I learn
a valuable lesson there. I can be as I can
(44:31):
be as Larish and I can be myself, but if
I'm not serious out in that football field, there's no
future for me. And I hope that our coaching stuff
to have the same attitude. Steve, do you think there's
a chance that he looked engaging and charming and well
spoken simply because he was sitting opposite Gary, like.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
You know, that's highly unlikely.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
I mean in comparison, well, I suppose think in comparison
that's good.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
That's a good point, a good point.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Another point is the seventy eight percent completion, which I
think is a fantastic stat given the conditions were abysmal,
to say the least, a seventy eight percent completion. It
was probably the difference between the two teams. The Bulldogs
finished in the city was sixty three percent, and they
dropped it at some really, really important moments. One of
those important moments was dropped by Lachlan Galvin and Steve
(45:26):
sitting there desperately wanting to have a few words to say.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Well, I was going to open with gutless and insipid,
but I already used those earlier. So while you were talking,
I was writing a couple. So I just want to
say what a spinalist and cowardly performance that was by
this loud mouth, over entitled little sport brat. Right now,
I'm sorry, I usually don't don't get this fired up.
(45:51):
And what I was for you asked people sitting around
me on the week, and I was fired up because
what this guy did to us and the way he
treated Benji Marshall and the lack of respect he showed
his teammates and his coach and all that was just disgusting.
And his parents ought to be ashamed of themselves with
the fail that they've allowed him to have that sort
of behavior. But there were three moments in that well,
(46:12):
there were three things I want to point out. One
was his absolute non attempt at Samuela feinnhu as Fhonnu
across the line. He did not want to put his
shoulder in. That was cowardly. Then there was the mispass
when Crichton threw threw the ball at him and he
just pulled his hand out of the way. He didn't
want to take it in case he knocked it on.
(46:32):
That was gutless also. And I said on the day
he ran the ball into the line once I was wrong.
I watched the replay. He ran it to the line
three times in eighty minutes. He was so overawed, and
he was so put out by what the crowd were
giving him and what the Tigers were giving him was
they ran it that first twenty minutes. They just ran
(46:53):
at him time and time again. Now I have him
on recorders stating I hate the sort of garbage the
journalists and social media and fans put up against players.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
But this kid, what he did this year, he deserves
everything he got and he failed. And I'm telling you now,
if they take him into the semi finals and the
heat's on, I'm not sure he's going to be up
to it.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
It's a potential powder kick.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
Yep, did you boo him Steve yesterday?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (47:25):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I didn't boom. I was too I was too busy
because I was sitting right behind the trainers, the Canniby
trainers on just two rows off the fence, and I
was just too busy yelling out to the trainers to
give sext And the go.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
But that didn't reply.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
At a more mature note, I think it's good for
the club to get the game out of the way,
to get the It doesn't matter whether in terms of
winning or losing, but just get the game out of
the way. We can sort of now move on. I
think until you play your former club, there's always sort
of that little bit of a strange feeling. Now he's
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officially a Bulldogs fan and a Bulldogs player, and off
he goes and whatever happens from here. I am always
worried though that he who laughs last laughs best. He'll
be back. He'll order us in the future. So we
can't get we can't get too carried away. There's a
new function on the West Tigers podcast forum. I don't
know if you guys have seen it, but you just
(48:25):
hit the little microphone and you can leave audio recorded messages,
which is really good. So the invitation is out there, guys,
people listening join the forum or the people that are
already on the forum, click the button. You can leave
us a question or a comment that we may or
may not depending on us use in the podcast. So
it's a really good way to sort of introduce a
little bit of quote unquote talk back into the podcast,
(48:47):
which I think is good. So give it a go
and have a go at it. Nick, I think I
saw Joel.
Speaker 5 (48:51):
Is it a maximum of two minutes you can leave
a recording up to I.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Think that's what the setting is. Yeah, maximum two minutes. Yeah.
No good for Gary. No, No, that's I don't cover
it at all.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Can I mention one more thing about the footage job
with a different direction. I just want to give a
shout out to Girad Skelton. You know, he's he's had
a hard few weeks and that's but defensively, I thought
in those conditions he was he was fantastic. He did
in attack, he did everything asked of him, and they
peppered him with a high ball.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
He was really good.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
I just thought it was a real confidence boo because
I can't remember who I was talking to him, what
have been Rachel or Troy, one of those guys that
come to the ambush and they were saying that they
spoke to him and they said, oh, you're playing pretty well,
and he said, oh, no, defense isn't real good. I've
got I've got to improve on it. So he seems
a really humble guy and fairly.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Realist, a bit of a realist.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
So I thought to get that game under his cap
yesterday and play the way he did was a credit
to him.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, and very effective. When he comes in and puts
that hit on, when it does come off, it doesn't
come off. We've got a problem. But how did the
ambush event go? Steve?
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Yeah, Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
We had Shannon Shannon McDonald at the other.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I don't think you'll find it. Shannon McDonald Shannon Gland.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
He is the newly appointed recruitment manager West Tiger.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
So Gary interviewed him.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Gary does all our interviews and yeah, talked about his
playing days and some interesting stories out of that, which
was good. But people were really interested in him talking
about recruitment and where we're heading with recruitment, the young
guys coming through. He couldn't say enough good things about
Macassini and him coming through and a few others that
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he mentioned. So it was it was a good event
and that was the last ambush event for the year.
It's a pretty good.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
One, but big plans for next.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
Year, huge plans for next year, and we're hoping. We're hoping,
and looks like we're going to have an ambush membership
for the first time. So we are trying to get
a Burrow type experience happening at West Tigers. You have
Souse Sydney, you have the Burrow and all they've guys
sit together and cheer and carry on. So we're trying
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to copy that a little bit. And so we're going
to have an ambushed membership. So that will come out
when the memberships come out. So anyone who would like
to sit together with West Tiger supporters, I know it's
a big thing.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
You go to a game you're ready to support, and
you sit down in your seat and then someone turns
up from your position sits next to you. Nothing else
always as bad as a twenty one dollar hamburger, that one.
So if you want to be surrounded by West Tigers
like minded people, the Ambushed membership bay might.
Speaker 4 (51:45):
Be the go for you.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, and it won't be too long before memberships start
to come up on the horizon for twenty twenty six already,
and we're starting to see the end of the end
of the season, which is funny because it just felt
like it started a couple of weeks ago. But yeah,
very stressful game, that Bulldogs game. I'm very, very pleased
to have thee by this week, nicks Nick. I can't
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say that I enjoyed any part of that game other
than about the last two or three minutes. I just wouldn't.
I couldn't enjoy it. So a weekend off sounds good,
you know what, Joel.
Speaker 5 (52:20):
Apart from the first five minutes, I actually really enjoyed
that game, and you know what, I had a feeling.
I could sense it through my beautiful high sense seventy
five inch TV and the warmth warmth and drive my home.
But we were on and once we started settling into
that game, after the first five minutes was done, I
just had a feeling that things were going to go well.
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I also had extreme doubts during that second half, as
we all do. And that's just the scar tissue rising again,
right that even at twenty in front of Okay, how
long until a Bulldogs scorer and then they score again
and all of a sudden, towels are up and we're
in trouble. Well, tails are down between our leagues more
to the point. But you know, we play we played
out a really good game of footy. We've celebrated. Well,
(53:03):
we've got a week off. Life can't be any better.
I just hope the sun comes out next weekend because
all the golf courses are washed out on the weekend.
I was very upset, so bit the sunshine next weekend.
Life can't be any better.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Job, it could be better if you've got a free
high sense TV for giving them a fuck, love your
high sense.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
I remember when seventy five inches are I could have
remember those days.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Thank you guys, cheers, Thanks boys,
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's the West Tigers Podcast and it is a post
victory edition of the podcast. And they are always the
most fun to have. We're going to have a little
bit of fun with the one word submissions from me
in a moment. I hope it's fun. Hope it doesn't
go down like a lead balloon. We'll see how we go.
Steve's here and Nick's here. Steve one word for that
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performance at a paramatter yesterday afternoon which you attended.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Determined Joel from kickoff to final whistle, determines all seven
named players, us a coach, coaching staff, twenty six fans
that were determined to get a victory.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah. That's a good one, yep. And that came through
on the television. I think Nick watched it on TV
as well. Your one word, Nick.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I did.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Joel unfortunately wasn't there, But Mate, I couldn't. I couldn't
settle on one word. I've got a few. I thought
intensity initially, because I thought we played with a great
deal of intensity for the whole eighty minutes. Bog was
another one to film as an absolute pig style. Wore
a gamber. Another one looked like wore a gamber. Damage
just flooded onto combat.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
There happiness.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
It's probably the happiest I've been on a Sunday for
a long time. It was just a really nice way
to end the weekend. Pride, not the rainbow flag, but
I was just had an extremely fulfilling sense of pride,
and fulfilling is the one I settled on. It was
just a really fulfilling afternoon and really happy to watch
the way we played that game against the Dogs.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's sometimes the word bog would be appropriate to use
for West Tiger's performance. All right, twenty eight to fourteen
was the final score. I've taken some liberty, as I
always do. I've got three words for my first one word,
I've got wet weather football. It was really a day
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of wet weather football. As you say, I couldn't believe
the amount of water that was on the pitch sprinklers, Steve,
I think I've worked out how we went at Campbelltown.
What we need to do is turn the sprinklers on,
or get industrial grade sprinklers and run them for three
or four days before the Tiger's next play at Campbelltown.
It certainly I don't think it hurt the West Tigers
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style playing in a slow.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Slogout, absolutely, Joel, and I've got that down as you know.
You know, we look at how we won that game.
We'll get into it later, so I don't want to
steal a thunder for later on the pod. But the
weather certainly helped us. It slowed the game down considerably.
And we struggle against teams that build momentum and off
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quick play the ball and spread the ball quickly effectively,
and obviously in that game can be weren't able to
do that.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
At all, and it helped us to know end.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I've also got physicality in there. I thought our physicality
in the first half was really, really good. Maybe he
fell off a little bit in the second half. And
I've got Dumb and Dumber and Brent Nadan talking about
Lockie again. Brent Naden gets dumb and yeah, but Adam
Dewey gets dumber, and I don't mean that, I mean
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it in a positive sense. So I'm channeling Harry and
Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber and instead of it being
you know, just when I think you couldn't be any
more stupid. In Dewey's case, it's just when I've written
you off, you go and do something like this and
totally redeem yourself. It was just an incredible performance from
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Adam Dewey Nick. I mean, I know the conditions might
have suited, but still best player on the field. I
don't know where that came from, and unless it's contract
talk that helps, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
I did hear in the postmatch interview. I can't remember
who said it. One of the Tiger's boys said that
during the week, though it might have been Jerome said
there were teasing him a training saying he was playing
for a contract this week. But he certainly played that way.
He really stood up. And one thing that I did
take note and see across the TV coverage was the
way ad was talking to the players when they're.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
In a huddle just before I went off at halftime.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
He was screaming and Jerome was just sitting or sitting
next to him Biten's tongue, you know, listening to every word.
So yeah, great game from ad.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I mean he really took this, took it by
the scruff of the neck and that I got that
in my notes to make that point. He really looked
like he was leading the team. Steve, There's I mean,
I up until last week was sort of saying, I'm
not fast if he goes We've got Madden when going
in a different direction. Now it's turned around two year
contract for Dewey. Where do you sit with it all?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
After that performance, I'm no different to what I was
last week on the pod. I said that I'd be
offering him something. I think he's you know, I wouldn't
have said seven obviously. I think he could be a
thirteen for us if he has the mindset to play
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thirteen for us, I think he could do that. His
defense has been a weakness historically for us, and at
thirteen he's got to pump out eighty minutes of you know,
a lot of tackling. So I'm not sure that he's
up for that, but he seems to be. His defense
has improved a lot this year. But he does offer
us the versatility of jumping in at half back when
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it's needed. And you know, I thought that was a
master stroke by Benji. It wasn't a Latu fe U day.
The conditions weren't going to favor him. It was an
intense atmosphere. It could have boiled over. Canterbury could have
lost it, but we also could have lost it. So
I think having that experience head out there from the outset,
(06:00):
helping Appy and Jerome lu and the other leaders of
the team was a really smart move. So yeah, I'm
the same as what I was last week. I'd be
offering him a contract. They've upped it today. They've gone
from one year to two years. I don't know if
the money is any different. I don't think so, but
I'm not sure. You know, he can start at seven
(06:22):
when we need it. I'd still prefer Feinu as our
preferred seven. I still think that's the way we need
to go, and you look at doing it at thirteen.
But if that's not working or case by case, game
by game, game plan by game plan, he's not a
bad option for seven if you need it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Nikki of the same mind, you're happy if he was
to signed a two year contractor The only only reason
I guess I'm saying or would be concerned about it
is if there's somebody that he's blocking that you want
to maybe play as a specialist in say, if we
were to buy lock all by, I mean we presume
Madden is it going to be in the argument for
(07:04):
the harvest? Like, where do you sit with it? I
still I don't want to lose him now, but I
don't know where how it plays out. Yeah, I'm the same.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I know we've been talking about ad playing thirteen most
of the year, or he'd be definitely a candidate to
play thirteen, and we haven't had a great look at
it yet. And we've always spoken about whether his defense
could hold out to that sort of role, especially for
long periods during a match, And I guess that's yet
to be seen and yet to be judged. But I
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mean what he showed on Sunday, you know, like you said, Steve,
he's a perfect feeling in seven if we need him.
He's played seven before and for many many you know
times or many many times in the past. Gary said
he doesn't want to see in play seven again. But
he did a really good job. And I actually think
it was a pretty pretty impressive master stroke there from Benji.
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Before that game, I did share the team I know
to Eddie in a chat yesterday before kickoff, and I
said some interesting changes there, and I know Eddie was
a bit perplexed and said, you know, I had some
question marks over what they were doing, but you know,
those conditions probably did suit a long kicker, and Ad
is the longest general play kicker in our team. We
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needed all of that extra carry on the general play
kicks to get as much you know, down the field
sort of medias as possible, and we probably needed to
show up the middle a bit too, the way that
the Bulldogs play, although you know, as we've said that
wet Track was a great level of yesterday. So i'd
like to see Ad stick around. It really depends on
what they've offered him, not so much money wise and
(08:38):
length wise, but maybe position wise, and what he's been
told that he's going to be. You know what number
he's going to have on in the back of the
jersey next year. It's not going to be starting halves.
Where else do you put him? If it's not starting thirteen?
It's a bench roll, and I don't think he's going
to want to be a bench player, So I don't
know which way it's going to go. I think he's
(08:59):
got a lot of value, so i'd like to see
him stay the wait and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, I just want to say there, like NICKI said,
like filling half. Yeah, he can be a filling half,
absolutely if we get an injury at half four or
five and he can fill in. But yesterday there was
no feeling about it. Right. It was a specific tactic
to take a bigger body with a bigger kicking game
and experienced player, a guy who talks a lot out
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into a war zone that was going to be tough
and going to be hard. And it wasn't the sort
of day where Ladu Feinu was going to excel. His
acceleration off the mark was totally totally wiped out by
the conditions. So to me, like, I'm excited about what
happened because I think it was great to see Benji
(09:46):
modify his game plan based on the conditions and the
opposition and pick a team a starting thirteen specific to
the needs on the day. Right, And I've been concerned
that he hasn't done that a lot, and I agree
with him.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Where do your partner?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I think utility fourteen he can play that now, whether
he wants to or not, I don't know. I think
he'd be a great fourteen for us, if not thirteen,
but he's starting to convince me. And look, he's done
this before, you know, and he can go and have
a month of very average football. He's got to get
that out of his system, not do that. But he's
(10:22):
starting to convince me that he can make it as
a thirteen and would be a good thirteen for us
because we do struggle when we are just dependent on
our seven and six. He gives us that, he gives
us that extra body in at first receiver as a thirteen,
maybe down the down the blind side, down the short side,
taking the first pass and just giving.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Lui and giving what's the other.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
One it's his name, Feanu Fainnure more space to get
a little bit wider and get them to straighten the attack.
So yeah, I'm more and becoming more and more convinced.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's an incredible story when you think about the injuries
that he's had and the position or changes that he's had,
that he still keeps finding another gear. It's really regardless
of what we think of him as a footballer, but
it stands to his character in his fight where he
was a couple of years ago, nobody would have blamed
him if he walked away, so it's quite a remarkable story.
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Let's have a look at the West Tiger's podcast forum.
Lots and lots of activity in the last week, which
is great to see. So keep it coming and join
up if you haven't already, and have your say. The
one word submissions from the West Tigers podcast forum tigertown
SFS their word was Dewey. Canberra Tiger's word was boo.
And I don't think that's like a ghost, but I
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think that's like a boo because I heard a lot
of that coming through on the channel and on the
Fox coverage, and I didn't have to have the sound
turned down because it was Warren Smith and Cooper Kronk,
who I can sort of tolerate, but if it was
some other common I wouldn't have heard any of those boosts.
Mike's word was contract, give the man a contract. We presume, Mike,
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that you're talking about Dewey. And on the rich ometer,
Mike said, we were average, and I'm okay with average.
I'm okay if we're average every week till the rest
of the year. That gives you something to build off.
Tigersman's word was inspired and inspired performance from Adam Dewey.
Natmac seventy eight contribution was team we played like one
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for eighty minutes. Tiger seventy's word was coach no doubt,
giving Benji a rap for his coaching. Caid's seventy nine
word was Gutsy had a crack and it was a
solid effort across the park. JH ninety eight's word was justice.
Osmo's seven said desire. The team showed a desire to
win over the page. Tiger Steu Dewey the heart of
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the team, and there is still some hope for a
semi finals appearance. But I don't quite know about that.
It's Tiger's du but I like your optimism.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'll just I'll just say, Tigers, you I'm with your mate,
because this morning when I was edaweet bix, I was
I was looking through the drawer.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And I was saying, you're doing the matter.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Who are the dolphins playing?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Chris's word was claws out. Tiger symmetry revenge and it
is a meal best served cold and wet. Pat Walker
moist the rain makes us play better.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
C Q.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Tiger's word was pride. Tiger fifty one to fifty resilience.
Our resilience and fight forced the dogs into lots of errors.
Rachel nine satisfaction. It was the most satisfying win we've
had for some time. I'd agree with that mercy rule.
Buller an out and out star enumerator, Adam, what a game,
Teddy s diamonds, But who knows what we'll get next week.
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Mac Tiger's word was happiness this week and next. Yeah,
it's always good to have a win going into a bye.
That's always a lovely luxury. Redman their word was one
or their number was one. The one game we get
some calls from the ref Tiger's eye Bravo, typical Tigers win.
We couldn't put them away, and they took a couple
of years off our lives. I was getting a bit
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bit worried in that second half. Dirty Red's word was scrap.
We kept it simple, worked hard and took our chances.
Lorenzo their word was feinus. Both Samuela and Sioni their contributions.
Barra's word coached, Benji got one over Sialdo and last
but not a snake. Professional. They performed as a professional unit.
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And Nick, that's something that struck me somewhat when I
was watching the game, is that quite often when you
compare us to other teams, they look like a a team.
They look like a team that's in a They have
a synergy, they kind of know what they're doing and
they're working as won and sometimes I feel like when
not that, But in that game against the Bulldogs, I
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actually felt like there was some degree of team work,
that there was some degree of connectedness.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Spot on Joel. I was worried the first five or
six minutes when it was all the Dogs, and when
Terrell dropped the kickoff, I thought, oh, I know, here
we go. You know, I was expecting the Dogs to
be six l up after sixty seconds, But after the
first five minutes the intensity was there. I think Taruva
took a twenty meter tap restart and ran about fifteen
(15:21):
meters and I think unfortunately Skelton dropped. I think we
Skelton dropped the ball the very next play. But I
mean apart from and there were a lot of errors
on both sides, but apart from the wet weather areas
that happened across at eighty minutes, we were really good
and where we'd had deficiencies over the past, and I'm
not talking past weeks, but like past months, if not years,
like where we were weak on our especially right edge,
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and I know Skelton flipped from left to right, but
I thought we were a lot stronger defensively out wide
as well. And I guess the conditions have a bit
to do with that as well, But I didn't see
as much backing off in defense and not as much,
you know, being intimidated by the attack. And again maybe
that's just the heaviness of the of the field and
the speed that the attackers are coming at here. But
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I thought we played with a lot more unity and
a lot more cohesion and maybe, right, maybe we just
need to flood every ground that we play, at least
every home ground that we have advantage of, because yeah,
we're clearly mud rounders.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
We'll go and play in the north of England. We
need to join the super It might be beatable.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Happened really?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah? Yeah? I was going to jump ahead and ask
the question. With eight wins now sitting on twenty points
and a buy coming our weight so twenty two points, Steve,
are you are you confident enough to say that the
wooden spoon era for the West Tigers is over.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Absolutely, we won't get the Wooden Spoon now, not not
with that. That was a four point win. Yeah, with
that and the by and we've got a couple of
very minorable games. You know, We've got the Titans again.
They playing they're playing better football, but I'm not sure
they'll sustain it. We've got Manly, We've got Cowboys, So
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I'm expecting still a couple more.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Wins for this season.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
And I think in the wash up, when you think
of the season we've had and the you know, the
trouble that we've been through with Galvin, I think it's
probably not a bad you know, at the end of
the day, we'll look at that season. We'll look at
it two ways. We'll say what if, because we're very
close to being a top eight side, But we can
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also look at the season and say, yeah, we've done Okay.
I think we're going to finish a fair way from
the Wooden.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Spoon because the next the games that are remaining, Nick,
I think they will define our season to a large degree,
Like if we win those games, or we win we
win three out of four, whatever it might be as
compared to if we just that's it for the year.
We pack it up. We just coast home to then.
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I think that changes the whole context of the success
of the year. And I think they're really important games
for the club to get the buy to keep this
momentum going into next year.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Probably more important now than if you had of us
the same question a week or two ago, because I
know before the last pod that we did a week ago,
before the Bulldogs game, I was very concerned that we
wouldn't win another game for the rest of the year,
you know, after the way that we didn't turn up.
I suppose against Penrothorp. Perhaps we were just outplayed against Panthers.
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You know, I was wondering where we were going to
get that win from. And I know Eddie said, you know,
we should beat the Titans, and we should beat the Cowboys.
But when it's the West Tigers, you never should beat anyone.
You've got to earn a win, regardless of who you're playing,
where you see it in the ladder and most teams
as we all know above us. But yeah, I mean
it's week to week, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Now.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
We've beaten the Bulldogs, which I didn't expect. I think
a lot of people didn't expect, so now the expectations
go up. Now we're talking about you know, we should
win probably fifty percent of our games going in, but
you know what we're like. We may come after the
buy against Manly and be a little bit off and
lose that one. Hopefully not, but you're right, the potential
is there to win two or maybe three games coming
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in and who knows, we might have been scrapping at
night if we can get that high up. But it's
looking a lot better than seventeenth.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
We win every game we can finish eighth. Don't write that.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
They getting too excited, Steve, They've.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Done the math.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Benji. Benji mentioned a lot in his press conference. I
thought it was a really good press conference, but the
one thing he said that I really stuck with you.
I thought it was fantastic, and he said, we've got
to work out why we can't do this every week.
And that's to your point too, Jol, of how we
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finished the season. You know, I've made no secret of
the fact that the last two three years, I've been
literally disgusted with the way we have finished the season.
The absolute limp way we've performed over the last month
or six weeks even where it looked as if no
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one could give a toss, you know, and it was,
and you know, I thought to myself and umber times, well,
why the hell should I care? Why should I buy
a membership next year when I've got to watch this
rubbish right at the end of our seasons have been terrible.
It's not going to happen this year. It's not going
to happen with this group no way. Like we mightn't
we might win, we mightn't even win fifty percent of
(20:28):
the remaining games. I don't know running games, but there's
going to be effort. But this team have put in
effort every single week. But we do have to ask
that question because another word could be frustration. And we
don't want to put a negative spin on what's been
a very positive weekend, But why why are we not
able to get up? Like you can't get up that
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much every week? You can't, right, but you should be
able to Like the gap between that and where we
usually run under a field at has got a has
got a lesson, right that that GAP's got to get
closer because they're first grade football team and a professional
and you know, maybe it's the mindset. You know, they
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ran out there with their with you know, apart from Tower,
pulling out with the best seventeen we can field. So
maybe there's a confidence there. I don't know, but they
are a good football side. They're not far away from
being a very competitive football side. Why can't they do
that week on week? Maybe the answer is in the
fact that we're still short, you know, a couple of
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top liners and three or four backup players. Maybe that's
the answer, but it is frustrating when you see that
effort compared to, as you said, Nick, what we saw
against penrithle week before.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
One thing I was going to add in sleep, but
you covered it already is the fact that one to
seventeen and we were just about, you know, as good
as it gets on Sunday against the Dogs one to seventeen.
And we spoke about the very beginning of the year
when you put it on paper best one to seven
looks like but we all thought, I think most of
us thought, we have the capability play finals. And it
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goes back to looking at the results across the course
of the year, all those type ones that we've lost,
and yes we've lost games and we've won a few
by not many points as well. But again, if you
start looking at those games that we lost by two
or four points and convert those into wins, all of
a sudden, we're you know what.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Do we eight?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
We're very very close to the bottom of the eight.
So I think that's got a lot to do with it,
and maybe the fact that we've been so bad and
so poor for such a long period of time. Maybe
it just comes back to mentality. Maybe it just comes
back to the fact that these guys are still gelling
even though it's now what twenty five or twenty four rounds,
twenty three rounds, whatever it is. In we've had a
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lot of chop changing and positions throughout the season, and
you know, we've got to, you know, almost all the
way through a year, and maybe we have found our
best one to seventeen, with exception of maybe one or
two that could shuffle around. But we're getting there, aren't
We We're very close. I think we saw yesterday and
again there's an asterisk because of the conditions, but I
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think we saw a lot of potential of what this
team and club can do going forward.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I think that you know, you can you can see
that Kay Piercepaul will be a nice addition, But yeah,
we're still we're still two or three. We're still two
or three in the forward pack and one on the
bench I think personally. So hopefully those players can be
can shake out of the trees somewhere, as Richo likes
to say, and hey, look what we did last offseason,
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and there's every opportunity and at least we're we're not
buying a whole team. We're just tweaking now, you know,
almost to the point where it's just tweaking, which is fantastic.
I think they're very I think also what I like
about them is that they seem to be a very
connected side. Like socially, there seems to be a brotherhood there.
There seems to be a lot of connection amongst them,
and that's something that you can really work on. It
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was a crazy when you think about the amount of
ex Penrith players that lined up for both sides yesterday.
It was like the Penrith reunion, almost like their twenty
twenty one I think it was grand final team what
was out there and the other thing just quickly Not
that it matters for us, but if you look at
the Bulldogs run. It could have been a really really
costly loss for them because they've got a really tough
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run coming into the finals. Steve your finger.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Up, Yeah, just on what you were saying there, Joel, Like,
we can't, we can't get carried away because we definitely
do still need two or three players in our starting
team to bring us in and the middle being incredibly important. Really,
but what happened yesterday was the weather allowed the game
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to slow down and we're able to compete at a level,
at a pace that we can compete at.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
What happens to us is when we get if we've
got the Bulldogs on a dry track and I watched
I was watching them the week before when they were
shifting left and right so succinctly and so quickly and
so precisely, that would have just torn us apart.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
And whenever we get a team that's got big forwards
that drive through them.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
But it's not just big forwards, it's teams that have
big forwards that land on their stomachs and get up
and play the ball quickly. And when that happens, we
just cannot compete. We go backwards, We go backwards. Our
defensive line gets frazzled and gets caught out, and then
we end up getting beaten on the edge because the
middle of our defensive line is just a mess, right
and everyone's been crammed in and that's what goes wrong.
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So until we can fix that, unless we played twenty
six weeks in the pouring range, you know, we're still
not going to be able to compete at that level.
But you know, a couple of middles and we just
might get there.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
A couple of middles and things look different. Yep.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
I actually wish we had a brought Rice Hunt back
on a dry day rather than yesterday because I had
to look at his stats. I know we've spoken to
it Rice a bit, you know, when he's coming back,
and you've got to get his fitness levels up. I
think I sorry. He played fifteen minutes on Sunday, and
I did watch the replay today, so I think he
was taken off after about five minutes into the second half.
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And during that five minute period, I think he made
one or two hit ups at the most, and that
was about three sets apart. And in between those three sets,
he basically stood in the middle and was just trotting
either back into our attacking line or up into the
defensive line. He really looked like he was just you know,
heavy forwarded, couldn't move, you know, he really struggled in
those conditions. But I love the impact that he had
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earlier in the year. I wish I hope we can
see it again before the season's done. But I really
worry about his future, especially with that mindset, you know,
coming into the club that he was talking about retirement.
So I'm worried might happen with him?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
What might happen with him? Yeah, Well, I mean if
he does retire, like and it's his decision, and that's
that's perfectly okay. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if
maybe the body shape he has is an indication of
his desire to want to continue to play in RL,
or maybe it's something that we've got to nurse him
through to the end of it, to the off season
and he can come back and regroup and rEFInd that fitness.
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But he's a better player than the experience that we've had.
Let's talk about Well, there's a couple of things, but
which way should we go. I'd like to give Siony
Feinu a rap I thought the move into Locke, he
was again excellent and Samuela. Some of the hits that
Samuela hit put on really really impressed by both both
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of those two. And when I start talking about two
or three middles, I think he only takes one of
those spots. But I am really really worried about Polly,
and I know it was wet butt to costly errors
that led to both of the Bulldogs first tries, and
sometimes Steve. There's guys that, you know, look, the goods
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have the odd game but just aren't quite there. And
I'm starting to have my concerns about Fanua.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Well, I think it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Takes time to mature in the middle. You know, it's
not a young person's position. You're not going to be eighteen,
nineteen twenty not knocking the house down in the front row,
that's for sure. So I would like to say not
quite ready yet.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
With Paulo, like.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
He's a first grade he's first grade able, he has
the talent to play first grade. He just doesn't have
the consistency in his game at the moment. We've got
to keep encouraging him, or with the coaching staff have
to keep encouraging him. To be more consistent, trot out
consistent performances that are error free and impactful, because when
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he is impactful, he's very impactful.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
It's just not consistent.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
But I just want to go a bit further with
that because I want to mention Alex tell. I thought
he was super and I think he's having a pretty
good year and he's definitely a better post meter runner
than he has been in the past post contact meter runer,
I should say, than he has been in the past.
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I thought Samuela was awesome under the conditions. I just
love the way Lui was feeding Feinu and he was
just running straight at that little gutlass insipid player that
we're going to talk about soon, I hope. And so
I thought I thought twelve was really good. Yes, only
absolutely made typical game. The only guy I'm going to
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be negative one is Seafa. I just thought, you know,
he tries his guts out and Gi he tries his
guts out, and he did some good things, but throwing
a ball at someone's head and then because he was
in a rage in the very next set, slamming his
shoulder intoor bloke's head was absolutely brain dead. Stupid and
could have cost us the game.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
It really could have.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
We're very lucky that it didn't impact usmall more than
it did. I'm not a see if Basha. I'm quite
happy to have him off the bench in the seventeen
a lot of the time, but if he's going to
do stuff like that, like he's got a three week
suspension deservedly, but he if he hadn't got that, I'd
have dropped him if I was coached for next week
because what he did was just absolutely like, if you're
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going to talk about standards with Hunt, you've got to
talk about standards with Seafath.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Well.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
The biggest shame for me on that one, Steve, is
that was the save Fath we saw last year, in
the year before and the year before. Like, he's been
pretty good this season, and I reckon he's pulled his
head in and I actually thought he had a pretty
decent game except for that sixty seconds where he just
went completely brain dead yesterday, you know that trying to
get out of that tackle when he was on the ground. Yeah,
he was pushing, you know, Max King. I think it
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was in the head, which you know, maybe he shouldn't
have in fored a head, but he was trying to
get up and it was also you know, it was
a bit of niggle from King on Savefath too. He
had him on his back and we've talked about it before.
Players know if they target safe Fath, they'll get a bite.
And unfortunately save Fath bit yesterday and we haven't seen
that for a while. And when he put that shoulder
in the next play and got penalized, he could tell
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straightaway he knew that he'd stuffed up because he was
banging himself on the forehead. He regretted that instantly, but
you're right, I mean, he shouldn't be doing that. I
still don't think he had a bad game apart from that,
which you're right, Steve could have been a lot more costly.
Thank god it wasn't. I think we actually came out
two points better after that ten minutes spelled that he
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was off the field too. But yeah, Shaman did that
way for him.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
It was the ten minute period where we won the
game like that. That was going to be the leak
of the lose part of the game when he went off.
Here's a liability. There's always that potential with him that
he's going to do that dumb thing. And he has
struggled against the Bulldogs. If you remember last year he
he got ten minutes against the Bulldogs as well, so
they must really know how to how to niggle him.
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But what did we think of the comparison with the
Crichton tackle and no sinbin. I was perplexed that he
didn't get ten minutes. And I know that that player
was falling Taylor May was falling Steve, but I couldn't
believe that he didn't get ten.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Now I have to admit, I have to say I
think the refere he got it right. If you're going
to use that word mitigating circumstance like he got. He
did get him in the head, so he got put
on report and I think that was fair enough. But
he did. I think that's the right call. That The
thing is that needs to be consistent, job right. You
need to be coned like when a bloke slips that
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much and then he gets it. There was absolutely zero
intent like there was intent from sea Fath. Sea Futh
deserved the temants in the binn't. I don't believe Crichton
did deserve. But what annoys everyone is we'll turn on
the TV next week and the exact same tackle will
happened to the Black will go to the bin. That's
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that's the issue. But I thought, in isolation, both those
results I felt were correct.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Nick.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I wanted to wing back to you with pole a
just just because I had the question ready for you.
He's played it for a young man, He's played a
lot of NRL and we've used him a lot more
than maybe other clubs would have for a prop at
this point, and Steve israight. It is a part of
the field where you do tend to have to mature in,
you know, would you consider, because he's had it wasn't
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just this game, but the last couple of months he's
been a bit shanky, would you give him some time
in State Cup to your southwast comptability's confidence, to just
give him a bit of a chance to sort of
work on his game outside of the limelight.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
No, I wouldn't, because I don't think we've got anyone
worth replacing him in the NRL side. I get the conversation,
but if anything, I'd be making sure that he's only
playing off the bench and maybe playing you know, I
don't know. Twenty twenty five minutes I think he's got
a much bigger, bigger engine than that, but I definitely
think he's worth keeping around for the impact that it
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can bring. Yeah, yes, yesterday again or on Sunday was
an ASTERIXK one with those conditions put him on a
dry track. His footwork at the lines incredible. He's so
powerful and he tends to hit the line quite low
as well, like he gets his body down low and
it makes him very hard to put down very quickly
onto his back. So what is he twenty two? Well
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something like he's very young, right, but yeah, he's probably
what a props they say props mature at what about
twenty five, twenty six or something. Yeah, so he's got
a long way to go. Yeah, yeah, I'd just reduce
him his workload maybe a little bit, but giving little
things to improve on each week, like his poll security's
won and his defense is another. And I know Steve
Hee was at one of the ambush events that I
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attended to come back a little while ago, and he
actually did make a comment that he knew he had
to work on his defense. So I'm sure that he
is working on that and that will come good. Give
him time, it will come good. And he will be.
He will be one of the elite props in the
competition in a few years time.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
One of the big talking points from the game was
when it was when the West Tigers team was selected
on Tuesday night. It was the first time that we
had this full spine. And then just before before the game,
Benji made sure that we didn't get the full bull
spine and there was a change. But the reinstatement of
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bringing back or the availability of Duram Buller Steve. Like
I when I first saw him, I could see the
speed and I could see the potential, but I was
a little bit worried, you know, basketball background and the like.
I thought he might potentially be a bit of a
flash in the pan. But in terms of being one
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of the better fullbacks in the NRL, you know, I
think he's continuing to rise to another level all of
the time.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah, he's like we did it. I think we did
a comparison a few weeks ago. We sort of had
him around midpack, you know, if you looked at all
the NRL fullbacks at the moment. But he I think
you're one hundred percent right. He'll keep climbing and I
think he's going to become elite. He's showing all the
signs of it. That Tray score when he took the
pass off de he I was. I watched it again
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today on the replay. He actually when do We picked
up the ball, he was actually on the open side
and he looked up.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
He looked.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
He's a footballer, he's got football sense, and he saw
as do We took off, he saw that the defense
was going to come from the from the open side,
from the inside right, so he ran around. He ran
around to the blind side, and he actually did a
real loop to come up on on Do his right
hand side and the blind side, so that do he
could give the ball to him on that side where
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the defense wasn't going to be, which gave him a
free run to the line. It's only a little thing,
and you might say it's just common sense, but he
did it right. He saw it, and he acted and
reacted and he was so good for us, you know
yesterday coming out of our end. Just just his carries
out of him were just absolutely fantastic. And I know
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it was wet, and there was a couple of times
there where opposition players slipped over its b can you know,
you don't even.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Run it what's in front of you.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
He was.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
He just gives us another point of attack too, right.
He makes the opposition think more about what we're doing
with the football.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
And that's that's only a good thing.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Took the words right out of my mouth, Steve. I
was just about to jump in and say the decision
he puts it in the defensive line when when he's
running around the back of a play, you can see
it like he's that dangerous and that good player that
you know. He makes the defensive teams or defensive structures
think twice about what they're going to do where they
commit to the front line of attackle whether they you know,
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second guess and wonder what bull is going to do
out the back. But yeah, he's he's such a quality player.
I did question, maybe it might have been a month
or so ago, about whether he was worth the nine
hundred thousand or whatever his contract is, like the option is,
but I'll tell you what I'd pay it. Like he's
a player we have to keep. We cannot let him go.
It's another James Tedesco in my eyes, Like if we
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lost Buller would be up Pup Creek to put it,
you know, as simply or as politely as I can.
And the one thing I'll add on to that, Steve,
you said you watched the replay at the end of
the game when Lucky Galvin came up and you know,
he was having a shook dream Buller's hand and they
were having a great chat. And yes their ex teammates,
but they spent a lot of time talking to each other.
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If you remember, a couple of weeks ago, Buller was
photographed in the Bulldogs camp at one of the Bulldogs
games in the members section or the players are or
whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Not only was.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
He having a great, deep and meaningful with Lockey Galvin
on Sunday evening after the game, but all the Bulldogs
players came up and shook his hand and they all
said more than nice game. They also said, you know,
quite a few words to him. Just made me a
little bit scared that he's not getting in too tight
with the Bulldogs players. I'd hate Field Good to come
and up under our nose again and pinch him. He's
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wondered I would really be worried about losing m I.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Don't know if it was it really even him that
picture I wasn't one hundred percent convinced that it was buller,
but I might be wrong.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I think it was a bit grain.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, it's not a there's no no one has said
hundred percent he was there.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
No, no, a lockness monster, it's there.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Maybe we'll see what happened. We'll see what happens. I
wanted to give Naden. I'll give him one rap. I
mean he was he was enthusiastic and keen all game.
But he did one good thing in particular that I
wanted to highlight, and that was when May was going
out and he planted his feet on the sideline and
he stopped him from going out. I thought that was
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very clever. But on the not so clever, the video
bad look for the club, I think. I mean, Steve,
do we the guy is? It is borderline first grade,
like he's fighting for his NRL career. Can you afford
to have someone like this that you just can't trust him?
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You know, he's just got this. He has a great game,
He's played himself back into NRL contention and undoes it
all three hours later.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Okay, So I want to say something positive before before
I reply to that. And there was that moment. There
was another moment where he where there was a ball.
Canbury had the ball, they dropped it and he out
enthused two Caniby players to dive on the ball and
I think they were about thirty meters out of attacking
our line, and it was it was a pivotal moment.
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So I thought his effort was he didn't let anyone
down yesterday. But in reference to what you're saying, we
interviewed him at the ambush at Campbelltown. This guy was articulate, intelligent,
well spoken.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Well that's articulate, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
He was.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
He had the he.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Had the audience eating out of the palm of his hand.
He was funny, he was engaging, he was enthusiastic, he
wanted to tell stories. He was possibly the best guests
we've ever had. And I wasn't expecting it. I really
wasn't what I saw on video last last night or today. Sorry,
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was not that bloke, right. It was a total different character.
And that's the guy that's been letting the real Brent
Naden down.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
His whole career. And you can't do that stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
And I was I was in the minority when I
said that neither Taruve nor lou I should have done
that social media stuff with Lockey Galvin back around.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Around six round seven.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Whenever that happened, it was it was ill disciplined rubbish,
right from two experienced first graders. Well, this was another thing, right,
that whole scenario what they did out in the field,
Like everyone said, oh, it's nothing, don't overreact. Yeah, I
get it, I get that, but you've got to be
more disciplined than that, right, like score a try, put
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the ball down right, turn around, job back to the
halfway and do it again right, Save all that crap
for the dressing room afterwards. And what what would Craig
Bellamy's reaction be?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, well, especially when you're coming what third eighth and
you're playing the team that's coming second. Yeah, you got
to be carried about it, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
And I don't want to be negative because there was
so much positive. But there's just been a few instances
this year of that lariism that we don't need, right,
but we don't need that in.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
The club.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
My fear, right, Like it's one thing to do it
on the field, and it was probably a little bit
over the top on the field. I get where they
were coming from. You know, they were pumped up, they
were knocking off a tall poppy, et cetera. Yeah, the
off field video that was posted was done and a
huge mistake. If Naden was playing for Melbourne Storm and
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did the same reaction on social media and that was
captured by the media and people were taking screenshots and videos,
et cetera to make sure it never is deleted. What
would the what would the action beyond Brent laden, it
would be different to the crickets that we're hearing. Yeah,
there'd be some consequences. Yeah, it worries me what may happen.
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Like you said, Steve, he's a real character and he
obviously fits in really well with the boys, and he
had a great game yesterday and more often than not
he shows brilliance on the field as opposed to the stupid,
brain dead mistakes that he makes. And you know, so
he choices but from time to time, but he's an
asset and he's still got some good footing in him.
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But yeah, just actions like that, just you know, it
just makes you scratch your head and think, ar out,
why is this happening again? You know, it just puts
a tarnish on the wind that we should just be
sitting here talking about how good it was.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
I remember an interview josh Anakhar did years ago and
I was talking about when he left the Tigers went
to Melbourne. And I don't know whether he done this
at the Tigers or he did it at very early
stages of playing from Melbourne, but he scored a try
and as he was running the last ten meters he
put his hand up in the air and sort of
put his finger up and was signaling into the crowd,
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you know, and had the ball tucked under one arm
and he dived over the line. Well, apparently in the
wash up on the Monday of the Tuesday, Craig Bellamy
got him in the office, showed to the tape to
him and said to him, Josh, you're a great player.
You ever do that, You'll never play first grade year
and yeah, and he just said, he said, I learn
a valuable lesson there. I can be as I can
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be as Larish and I can be myself, but if
I'm not serious out in that football field, there's no
future for me. And I hope that our coaching stuff
to have the same attitude. Steve, do you think there's
a chance that he looked engaging and charming and well
spoken simply because he was sitting opposite Gary, like.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
You know, that's highly unlikely.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
I mean in comparison, well, I suppose think in comparison
that's good.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
That's a good point, a good point.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Another point is the seventy eight percent completion, which I
think is a fantastic stat given the conditions were abysmal,
to say the least, a seventy eight percent completion. It
was probably the difference between the two teams. The Bulldogs
finished in the city was sixty three percent, and they
dropped it at some really, really important moments. One of
those important moments was dropped by Lachlan Galvin and Steve
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sitting there desperately wanting to have a few words to say.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Well, I was going to open with gutless and insipid,
but I already used those earlier. So while you were talking,
I was writing a couple. So I just want to
say what a spinalist and cowardly performance that was by
this loud mouth, over entitled little sport brat. Right now,
I'm sorry, I usually don't don't get this fired up.
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And what I was for you asked people sitting around
me on the week, and I was fired up because
what this guy did to us and the way he
treated Benji Marshall and the lack of respect he showed
his teammates and his coach and all that was just disgusting.
And his parents ought to be ashamed of themselves with
the fail that they've allowed him to have that sort
of behavior. But there were three moments in that well,
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there were three things I want to point out. One
was his absolute non attempt at Samuela feinnhu as Fhonnu
across the line. He did not want to put his
shoulder in. That was cowardly. Then there was the mispass
when Crichton threw threw the ball at him and he
just pulled his hand out of the way. He didn't
want to take it in case he knocked it on.
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That was gutless also. And I said on the day
he ran the ball into the line once I was wrong.
I watched the replay. He ran it to the line
three times in eighty minutes. He was so overawed, and
he was so put out by what the crowd were
giving him and what the Tigers were giving him was
they ran it that first twenty minutes. They just ran
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at him time and time again. Now I have him
on recorders stating I hate the sort of garbage the
journalists and social media and fans put up against players.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
But this kid, what he did this year, he deserves
everything he got and he failed. And I'm telling you now,
if they take him into the semi finals and the
heat's on, I'm not sure he's going to be up
to it.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
It's a potential powder kick.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
Yep, did you boo him Steve yesterday?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (47:25):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I didn't boom. I was too I was too busy
because I was sitting right behind the trainers, the Canniby
trainers on just two rows off the fence, and I
was just too busy yelling out to the trainers to
give sext And the go.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
But that didn't reply.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
At a more mature note, I think it's good for
the club to get the game out of the way,
to get the It doesn't matter whether in terms of
winning or losing, but just get the game out of
the way. We can sort of now move on. I
think until you play your former club, there's always sort
of that little bit of a strange feeling. Now he's
(48:03):
officially a Bulldogs fan and a Bulldogs player, and off
he goes and whatever happens from here. I am always
worried though that he who laughs last laughs best. He'll
be back. He'll order us in the future. So we
can't get we can't get too carried away. There's a
new function on the West Tigers podcast forum. I don't
know if you guys have seen it, but you just
(48:25):
hit the little microphone and you can leave audio recorded messages,
which is really good. So the invitation is out there, guys,
people listening join the forum or the people that are
already on the forum, click the button. You can leave
us a question or a comment that we may or
may not depending on us use in the podcast. So
it's a really good way to sort of introduce a
little bit of quote unquote talk back into the podcast,
(48:47):
which I think is good. So give it a go
and have a go at it. Nick, I think I
saw Joel.
Speaker 5 (48:51):
Is it a maximum of two minutes you can leave
a recording up to I.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Think that's what the setting is. Yeah, maximum two minutes. Yeah.
No good for Gary. No, No, that's I don't cover
it at all.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Can I mention one more thing about the footage job
with a different direction. I just want to give a
shout out to Girad Skelton. You know, he's he's had
a hard few weeks and that's but defensively, I thought
in those conditions he was he was fantastic. He did
in attack, he did everything asked of him, and they
peppered him with a high ball.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
He was really good.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
I just thought it was a real confidence boo because
I can't remember who I was talking to him, what
have been Rachel or Troy, one of those guys that
come to the ambush and they were saying that they
spoke to him and they said, oh, you're playing pretty well,
and he said, oh, no, defense isn't real good. I've
got I've got to improve on it. So he seems
a really humble guy and fairly.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Realist, a bit of a realist.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
So I thought to get that game under his cap
yesterday and play the way he did was a credit
to him.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, and very effective. When he comes in and puts
that hit on, when it does come off, it doesn't
come off. We've got a problem. But how did the
ambush event go? Steve?
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Yeah, Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
We had Shannon Shannon McDonald at the other.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I don't think you'll find it. Shannon McDonald Shannon Gland.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
He is the newly appointed recruitment manager West Tiger.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
So Gary interviewed him.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Gary does all our interviews and yeah, talked about his
playing days and some interesting stories out of that, which
was good. But people were really interested in him talking
about recruitment and where we're heading with recruitment, the young
guys coming through. He couldn't say enough good things about
Macassini and him coming through and a few others that
(50:44):
he mentioned. So it was it was a good event
and that was the last ambush event for the year.
It's a pretty good.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
One, but big plans for next.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
Year, huge plans for next year, and we're hoping. We're hoping,
and looks like we're going to have an ambush membership
for the first time. So we are trying to get
a Burrow type experience happening at West Tigers. You have
Souse Sydney, you have the Burrow and all they've guys
sit together and cheer and carry on. So we're trying
(51:16):
to copy that a little bit. And so we're going
to have an ambushed membership. So that will come out
when the memberships come out. So anyone who would like
to sit together with West Tiger supporters, I know it's
a big thing.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
You go to a game you're ready to support, and
you sit down in your seat and then someone turns
up from your position sits next to you. Nothing else
always as bad as a twenty one dollar hamburger, that one.
So if you want to be surrounded by West Tigers
like minded people, the Ambushed membership bay might.
Speaker 4 (51:45):
Be the go for you.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, and it won't be too long before memberships start
to come up on the horizon for twenty twenty six already,
and we're starting to see the end of the end
of the season, which is funny because it just felt
like it started a couple of weeks ago. But yeah,
very stressful game, that Bulldogs game. I'm very, very pleased
to have thee by this week, nicks Nick. I can't
(52:10):
say that I enjoyed any part of that game other
than about the last two or three minutes. I just wouldn't.
I couldn't enjoy it. So a weekend off sounds good,
you know what, Joel.
Speaker 5 (52:20):
Apart from the first five minutes, I actually really enjoyed
that game, and you know what, I had a feeling.
I could sense it through my beautiful high sense seventy
five inch TV and the warmth warmth and drive my home.
But we were on and once we started settling into
that game, after the first five minutes was done, I
just had a feeling that things were going to go well.
(52:41):
I also had extreme doubts during that second half, as
we all do. And that's just the scar tissue rising again,
right that even at twenty in front of Okay, how
long until a Bulldogs scorer and then they score again
and all of a sudden, towels are up and we're
in trouble. Well, tails are down between our leagues more
to the point. But you know, we play we played
out a really good game of footy. We've celebrated. Well,
(53:03):
we've got a week off. Life can't be any better.
I just hope the sun comes out next weekend because
all the golf courses are washed out on the weekend.
I was very upset, so bit the sunshine next weekend.
Life can't be any better.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Job, it could be better if you've got a free
high sense TV for giving them a fuck, love your
high sense.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
I remember when seventy five inches are I could have
remember those days.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Thank you guys, cheers, Thanks boys,
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