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January 10, 2025 50 mins
What a Creep
Hulk Hogan
Season 27, Episode 12

Are you ready to talk about Hulk Hogan, brother?
Wrestler Hulk Hogan was everywhere through the ’80s. He appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated, TV Guide, and PEOPLE. He had his Saturday morning cartoon show and was the most-requested celebrity of the ’80s for the Make-A-Wish foundation. He also had a run of movies in the 80s and '90s. But now, he’s mainly known for lying, for a leaked sex tape filled with his racist and homophobic rants, and for being one of Predator Trump’s few “celebrity” endorsements. What a creep.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to What a Creep, The show with Margot Donni
and Sonya Mansfield talking about creeps from the past.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
To the present. This is your quick guide to the
biggest creeps, jerks, assholes and losers, the best of the.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Worst from two nice ladies who want the world to
be a little less creepy.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Welcome back to What a Creep.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
This is Margo Donihue and my cohort in Creepitude, as always,
is the amazing Sonya Mansfield. Hey, Sonya, Hello, my friend, Hello,
my friend. We are the podcast that talks about creeps
from the past to the present. Today's creep not as
creepy as they usually are, which is a good thing.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
We wanted to do something a little more.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Lighthearted than you know, the maminering and the essaying all
over the place.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, I mean if you find racism and homophobia to
be uh but you know what I mean, y'all know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yes, as we go along, it's just one of the
darker ones.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yes, right, it won't haunt you like some of our episodes,
unless you've seen his sex tape. That might hont you.
Oh yeah, Noank, you was that Bubba the love spongeoo
is his wife. Yeah, Okay, we'll talk about that. We'll
get into that in this show. Here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
We talk about crimps in the past of the present,
and we end the show with somebody who is not
a creep. And we have a really good list today
for not creepy charities to contribute to. For all the
folks in the LA area, we're thinking about you. Uh,
they've had a lot of fires in northern California. Sonya
has good friends that lost their home up in was
it Paradise, California.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, I was up in Paradise, and I have a
lot of friends down in southern California who have been evacuated.
And it's really really scary down there, and there's been
bananas winds and that's blowing the fire everywhere, which is
why it's spreading so fast. It's really scary and we
just want everyone to be safe and we're looking for
ways to help like we always do so.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
But if you're looking for something to take your mind
off of the fires and the misery, we hope we
can help you with that.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
We got you, We got your back.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
But we're always looking for suggestions for our creeps and
non creep so you could find us. We're on Facebook.
We'll see how long this section this conversation might be
completely shortened by the ones that social.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Media we don't follow anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
But as of right now, in the Year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five January, we have a private Facebook group.
We have a public fan page, but that's where people
go to complain about our language.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
This is your warning.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
We use salty language in this program and today's creep
is a total asshole.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
So there you go. I got that.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yes, shit, fuck damn, there you go. We have a
private Facebook group. You type in what a Creep Podcast Group,
ask to join. Answer the questions. The most important one
is promised not to be a creep when you're in
the podcast group and on Facebook, and we'll let you
come on in.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
And it's nice.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
For now, we've been keeping in a really nice safe
space for people to hang out, for our peeps to
hang out. We're on Instagram, threads and blue Sky do
those my peak at what a Creep Podcast? And we
have an old timey email, what a Creeppodcast at gmail
dot com and.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Sonya, yes, can you tell them about the website? Yeah,
go to what a creeppodcast dot com and it's everything
you want to know about the podcast but we're afraid
to ask. You can open up each of those little
blog posts and you'll see our show notes. Because we
source everything we do, we're not making any of the
stuff up. We want to give people credit for the
work they do. So if you want to do a

(03:32):
deeper dive on our creeps, fabulous place to start. And
it's just a great place to find us because social
media is a little all over the place right now.
So if you're like, hmm, maybe I don't want to
be on Facebook, you could go there if you want to,
but maybe we need to bring my space back, I
don't know, and figure out like where we're going to

(03:55):
napster while we're there. Yeah. In the meantime, though, whatever's
going on at Facebook does not impact our group because
we are all very good about fact checking ourselves there
and we have a no assholes policy, So anyway, do that.
There's all also on our website. There is a link
to our merch shop where you can get t shirts
and tote bags and journals and all kinds of fun stuff.

(04:17):
And we have our logo and we have our maybe
next year, which never goes out of style. And there's
a link to our Patreon. You want to tell him
about that, Margo.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yes, pat Rio n you type what a creep podcast
and ask to join sign up for us. You can
sign up for free because occasionally we put clips there
for free. But that's where we have our first nine
season and that's only for Patreon members and we have
some really good shows there. And then we also put
out two bonus episodes a month, and that's where Sony
and I basically shoot the shit. We just talk about

(04:48):
stuff in the news and like brief, you know, more
bite sized creepitude. We kind of go through that and
that's on our Patreon wall. And I want to thank
Carolyn and Cynthia who recently signed up for that. Thanks,
thank you both very very much. And uh, I think
that's it, Sonya, did I mention everything?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I think? So? Oh our and our email what a
creeppodcast at gmail dot com? I don't think.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
So we have an old timey email, what a creepodcast
at gmail dot com, so you can say, email us
your suggestions.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
That's actually probably always going to beat.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
There will always be there, So that's that's a great
place to reach out and you want to reach out
to us. Somebody sent me a really nice note last
week asking for stickers. If you'd like some stickers, we
will drop the mail for you and I will reply
to your email. I just forgot about it the other day. Okay, sonya, Yes,
let's star today.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yes, all right? Are you ready to talk about Hulk
Hogan brother? Okay, we are going to do that. Trigger warning,
racism and homophobia. Sources, Biography, Eonline, MSN, People Magazine, We
Love Our People Magazine, Rolling Stone, The Sportster, and Wikipedia.

(05:56):
Hulk Hogan was the biggest wrestling star of the eighties.
You probably, even if you're like I don't watch wrestling,
you probably know who Haul Coogan is, or you could
at least recognize him right. It's like blonde hair that
appeared to be receding even when he was very young,
Like Handlebeyer, mustache tends to get really red when he's

(06:16):
all worked up. He was everywhere everywhere in the eighties.
He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated to be
Guide People. He had his own Saturday morning cartoon show.
He was the most requested celebrity of the eighties for
the Make a Wish Foundation. He had a run of
movies in the nineties or eighties and the early nineties,

(06:40):
like Mister Nanny. I know when I'm aware of like
suburban commando stuff like that. I've never seen his movies,
so I can't speak to their quality that I have
a feeling I know that they're not very good. He's
no Dwayne Johnson. He is no Dave Baptista right. He

(07:00):
is mainly known nowadays for lying his leaked sex tape
that was filled with racist and homophobic rants. He's one
of Predator Trump's few quote unquote celebrity endorsements. He's what
a creep. So we're going to start at the beginning.
Terry Jean Boleya his real name, it is I looked

(07:26):
it up even how to pronounce it Bleya born August eleventh,
nineteen fifty three and Augusta, Georgia. His family moved to
Florida when he was a little baby, so he's mainly Florida.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Florida makes sense, and that yeah tracks, and we like
our Florida listeners, by the way, we love our Florida
listeners and our biggest listeners, we love you.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
But yeah, he got a weak shit going on. Yeah. Actually,
if you saw like a picture of him, he is
like Florida man. Yeah, like there definitely is the yeah
that look about him. He's the youngest son of Pete,
a construction worker, sorry, construction foreman, and Ruth. She was
a homemaker and a dance instructor. He was He got

(08:11):
into wrestling in high school. He loved to watch it.
This was this would be in like the early seventies,
like late sixties, early seventies. There was like a wrestling
star named Dusty Rhodes that he loved to watch. But
he was also a musician. He played the bass, I
really know this, Yes, and he played a lot of

(08:32):
like a lot and several different like Florida based bands
at the time. He went to the University of South Florida,
but he dropped out pretty early on because he's his
band name, which was called Ruckus was the name of
his band. Yeah, I got a little traction in Tampa
Bay and so he was like, I'd rather be in

(08:54):
my band than in college. I would rather do that too, Yes, yeah,
totally valid. So the music gigs started to take up
more of his time, so he dropped out. While performing
with his band, he met uh these two wrestlers, So
Jack and Gerald Briscoe, their two brothers who used to

(09:14):
wrestle like in the Florida region. I guess they were
like a tag team and during his spare time, he
would work out at the local gym that they owned.
So that's how he started to get to know that
that beautiful body of his. Yes, that's how he that's
how he got that beautiful body, and it's how he

(09:35):
started to meet He looks all these other yeah, I
mean just he's a super asshole, and he's you know,
he's super strong, he's got his big muscles whatever. Encouraged
by these two brothers, he got into wrestling. He started
doing like little wrestling gigs on the smaller circuits, and

(09:56):
then he started training with this Japanese wrestler name Hero Matsunda.
And this was just a man who is known for
training wrestlers in the Championship Wrestling from Florida group like
this big wrestling right. Okay, So during the first session,
uh Hero broke Hulk Hogan's leg. Oh god. After ten

(10:20):
weeks of rehab, Hogan returned to train with him, and
dude tried to break his leg again. Sweep the leg,
Johnny sweep the leg put him in a body bag?
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
You know?

Speaker 3 (10:34):
People because the karate kai, I don't. I don't watch wrestling.
It's not forber kai. Sorry, tobra Kai.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I know, like I know a lot of people who
love wrestling and like it's just not my jam. But
like and people will be like, well, it's fake and
it's this and it's that, and it's like you could
still get really hurt. Oh. Absolutely, they ruined their bodies. Yes,
so just keep that like he's doing all these things

(11:06):
and it's like, but you could get really really hurt.
And it is important to like train and be strong
and hit your marks and all those things because people
could get really really hurt. So, yeah, he tried to
break his leg again because that dude sounds like an asshole.
And so for years, like Hogan bounced around from like

(11:26):
different wrestling orgs to other orgs and I'm not going
to list them all because there were a.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Lot of regional It was very regional. Yes, so it
was around North America. You could go to these different
wrestling yes, yeah, and they were all competing with each other.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yes, Because we talked.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
About not Jim McMahon, Vince mcman, Vince McMahon.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's Jim McMahon. We talked about Ed McMahon. Oh, we did,
no Vin Vince Vincent McMahon. So speaking of in nineteen
seventy nine is when Vince McMahon saw hul cogin and
was like, hmm and at the time, you know, he's
the promoter owner of the World Wrestling then known as

(12:09):
the Federation. Eventually it was changed to Entertainment, so the WWE,
and that's the most prominent wrestling league in the Northeast
at the time. Now it's like Worldwide or something. But yeah,
so he gave hull Cogan like an opportunity to join.
And because hul Cogan, by the way, he was still

(12:30):
going by like what was his name again, Terry Boleia
at the time, but it was Vince mcmain's idea that
was like, you kind of looked like the Incredible Hulk,
so you should be Hulk. And then for some reason
McMahon's like, and I want you to be irish, so Hogan,
and he actually wanted hull Cogan to like dye his

(12:53):
hair red, and hull Cogan's like, no.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Shamrocks is all around him and he's like, my lucky charms.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't know what the deal was, but hull Cogan's delicious.
My hair's already falling out. I'm not doing that, so
he's like, I'm blonde. So he hence the name hull Cogan.
He made his debut and about with Andre the Giant,
who maybe we've talked about before.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I don't think he was a creep. No, no, no
is a non creep. I think we might be love it. Yeah, yeah,
So he.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
And he won the match in that like made him
like really very famous around the country with wrestling fans.
And that's when he caught the attention of Sylvester Stallone,
who then cast him in Rocky three, which is how
I found out about hull Cogan because I used to
watch Rocky three all the time because it was on

(13:51):
HBO like every day, right, And if you asked me
what my favorite Rocky is, I would tell you it's
Rocky three.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Is Rocky four the one that has Apollo and it
has James Brown, Yes, that's Rocky four.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
That's what I like. Yeah, yeah, Rocky four is the
he fights Dolph Lundgren and just like he takes on
the Russians. Rocky three is he fights mister T.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
And so and Sylvester Stallone is a Trumper and uh yes,
Trump likes Russia.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
So this is all starting to make sense. Yes, it
all ties together. So after Rocky three, because Rocky three,
by the way, huge hit. Those Rocky movies used to
make a shit ton of money, that's when like like
hulk Mania like takes over. That's when this whole thing starts.
So he draws a lot of attention to professional wrestling.

(14:50):
Also on top of that is MTV and like Cindy
Lapper is like really into the wrestling thing and she's
using the wrestlers and her videos and all that stuff.
And so now professional wrestling is becoming like more mainstream.
And so night we're talking like eighty three and eighty
four we get like Hulkamania, I think is what they

(15:11):
were calling it, and it was just this weird you know.
He would just do all of this stuff and he
was like everything was about like he would give this
like lifestyle advice. He's like, make sure you train and
say your prayers and eat vitamins and believe in yourself,
and you too could be a wrestler. Brother, you know,
all this kind of thing, and then he had like
his exaggerated like rituals in the ring, you know, and

(15:34):
his like signature moves and all that stuff, and he
just becomes like the face of professional wrestling, and as
it like moves into the pop culture, then you get
like rock and Wrestling on MTV, and there's all these
pay per view events and like in total, like Hulk
Hogan becomes like a twelve time world champion, like six

(15:57):
times with the WWE and another six times with the
World Championship Wrestling. And also during that time is when
he meets Linda and they were married in December nineteen
eighty three, and then they have two children, Brooke and Nick,
and we're going to talk a little bit about them
and a little bit a few other things. In the eighties,

(16:20):
there was Richard Belzer the Bells. I remember the Bells. Yeah.
He used to have a talk show and he had
a hull Cogan on and hul Cogan put him in
a chokehold and caused him to pass.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Out and cut his head open. Yes, live and it
was live on TV.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, Yes, and Bells are sued and they settled out
of court.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
And he said that's why I have a home in
the South of France.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
He would do that all the time. I love Richard.
He was the best. The Bells was the best. We
love him. Yeah. And also during this time he was
very active with like the Make a Wish Foundation, which
is great. We point out when our teachers do good things,
you know, on the cover of all these magazines, the

(17:05):
Sports Illustrate, TV Guy people, the cartoon that he had
on Saturday mornings. I didn't watch it, but he was
on the Tonight Show, you know. And then he ends
the eighties, like in Hollywood. He makes a movie called
No Holds Barred. He does another one called Suburban Commando,
he does Mister Nanny, he does one called Sanna with mussels.

(17:27):
I've never seen any of these, so there's all of that.
But then he kind of stepped away from wrestling in
the nineties because it was revealed that he used steroids.
You don't say what a broad Mark McGuire, no way,
no way. So he actually took the we have a

(17:50):
whole episode about Vince McMahon, but he took this. Hul
Cogan took the stand in a trial against Vince McMahon
about like that. He was giving illegal star aeroids to wrestlers,
and like hul Kogan's like, yeah, I did take steroids.
It was fairly common.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
He was pretty blunt around it. But and it wasn't
a big surprise because I mean, if you look at pictures,
you're like, yeah, yeah, it's reord rich that he's feeling.
Yeah yeah. And and he did lie about it, like
he would just at the height of Hulk Mania, right,
he was like, it's all about training and saying your
prayers and eating vitamins and all these things, and you

(18:29):
too could be big and strong and like, people hate
that shit when you lie. Right, It's like, now we
have a lot of celebrities that are using no zempic
and that's oh oh oh zip.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I love that song, and now it's making me crazy
because I think I'm want to watch that commercial. It's
just people walking in the park, stuck in my head
eating at trees, and it's stuck in my head. I
say it for no reason, just oh oh oh oh zip.
That was genius on their part, the drug maker, And
it's genius on the band that put that song, the

(19:01):
songwriter whoever put that out, because that's that's that's hard
cash coming in.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's catchy, but like now celebrities use a zempic and
then they're like, I'm just eating right and exercising and
you're like, no, you're you're not eating because you're on ozempic. Yeah,
and it's like again, do whatever you want with your body,
but don't pretend that you're doing something else. So it
pissed people off. So at this time, he he kind

(19:26):
of takes a step back from wrestling and he starts
getting into like endorsements, and now he's like, you know,
I he invests into like restaurants. It's a bunch of
restaurants in Florida. He had a blender called the Hulk
Hogan thunder Mixer. Ye buy my energy drink. Brother, I'll
make you a smoothie. You want a smoothie? You want

(19:47):
a smoothie?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Brother?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
What protein powder do you like? Pee pee? I'll make
a pea powder. So he starts doing all of that
and then so like we had the Osbourne's, the reality
show The Osbourne So great, so after the Osbourne's, but
before the Kardashians, we had Hogan Knows Best, which is

(20:11):
Hulk Hogan did reality show in the early two thousands.
It was two thousand and five to two thousand and nine,
four years. That's like, yeah, four years, Jesus believe it
or not. Four years. So it was about like the
daily lives of hul Cogan, his wife Linda, and then
their two children. They were teenagers at the time, Brooke
and Nick. I never watched that show, Did you Die?

(20:36):
I know, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I saw clips of it on on talk soup or
yes suits how whatever that in the Kardashians. That's how
I learned about them.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, don't. I didn't watch that one. But so it
ran for four seasons. But during that time, like all
kinds of shit went wrong. So like it was revealed
that like he was cheating on Linda, Like Nick was
involved in a very serious car accident. He was under
the influence and actually left his passenger, his friend John,

(21:05):
with like lifelong brain damage from this accident. Nick ended
up pleading no contest to felony reckless driving. He did
an eight month prison prison sentence. Linda filed for divorce
they had been married for twenty four years at that point,
because she was saying that he was cheating. He says

(21:25):
he wasn't. She did I am. She won a very
hefty divorce settlement, which makes me think she had proof.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Receipts, timelines, green shots, she had everything.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
She received seventy percent of the couple's assets, forty percent
ownership of the companies. He ended up paying her three
million dollars for property settlement. She received almost eight million
dollars of the ten million dollars that they had in
the bank and investment accounts. Like shel she did really well.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Now, so you have to be with Hull Cogan for
twenty four years, have sex with him and Berth his children.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Cloud doesn't see there's a trade off. Not worth it
to me, but you do you, Linda. So after the divorce,
they they're not doing the show anymore obviously because shit
went horribly wrong. But they did have a spinoff show
that was Brooke Knows Best, which was the oldest Daughter
and like her attempt, I was singing Career Lesser Heart Yes,

(22:34):
which was funded by her father's money and it didn't
really work out and only on the two million left. Yeah,
and she she's not really talking to the family anymore
from what I've seen in the things I've read, like
she she did defend him for quite a long time,
and she now doesn't really follow any of them on Instagram.

(22:58):
She's trying to lead a private life. Good for her, Yeah,
and I was like, that's probably the healthy thing to do.
So yeah, So hull Koga gets divorced, he loses a
lot of his money, and now he doesn't have his
reality shows. But don't worry. He learned to love again
and again. He got married to someone named Jennifer McDaniel

(23:19):
in December twenty ten. They divorced twelve years later. Then
he married a yoga instructor named Sky Daily. That can't
be her real name, but maybe it is. Ground Weekly
is my name. Yeah. She is twenty five years younger
than him, sure, and they were married in September twenty

(23:41):
twenty three, so not too long. They're normly weds. Sonya,
they're practically newlyweds. Yeah, So I think that means she's
like he's seventy one and she's yeah, and so she's
like in her forties or something, so she'll outlive him
still for sure. So Okay, now here's the part where

(24:04):
we all like take care of yourselves because try not
to vomit. We have to talk about the sex tape.
So in two thousand and six, Hulk Hogan was videotaped,
because it was videotape back then, having sex with someone
named Heather Clem. Now Heather Clem was the then wife
of radio personality Bubba the Love Sponge, which is a

(24:26):
real name I did not make up. Oh yeah, he was.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
I used to pitch radio stations for interviews for people,
and I think that's the Tampa market. That show was very,
very popular, Like you wanted to get your people on
his show.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, so he he was on the show all the time.
Their friends he Yeah, and both Hogan and Clem claimed
that they were unaware that they were being filmed. Hulk
Hogan was their friend, like he was on the show
all the time. He was a family friend. And he

(25:02):
actually served as the best man at their wedding, which
was a year after this sex tape was filmed. Apparently
they had like kind of a open thing. Oh and
so I didn't know any of this. So Hul Cogan
went on the Howard Stern Show and he said that like, yes,

(25:25):
like you know, he slept with he slept with Heather.
Yes he did, because you could see the tape and
he did it with Bubba's blessing and encouragement, because he
was so burned out from the trauma of his upcoming
divorce that he finally gave in to the relentless commons
from Heather, like fine, oh fine, I'll fuck you. Like fine,

(25:49):
I'll take my blue pill. Yeah, smoothie, I'll be ready
about an hour. Yes, where's my blender? Let me make
a smoothie, brother, and then I'll fuck your wife. So
it turns out Bubba was filming it without at least
his consent, without Hulk Hogan's consent. She says she didn't

(26:10):
know either. Maybe she didn't know. I don't know who knows.
It sounds like Bubba's seen her fuck other guys.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I don't know what they It's like that's his thing.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Right, Yeah, some guys have that kink they want to
watch or people. Some people like to watch their romantic
partner fucking someone else, which.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Fine, do you you do? You man? So, but you
don't film people without their knowledge. So he gets his
little video camera, makes his film, puts it on a DVD,
marks it, literally writes Hogan on it, puts it in
a drawer in the desk. Bubba and Heatherwold later divorce.

(26:50):
By the way, so like I know boo. So six
years after the video, after the sex tape is filmed,
somehow Gawker editor a j Dealario, I think that's how
you pronounce it, gets the footage. I don't know, gee,
how would he possibly get that.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Docker was a website and there was also Jezebel and
maybe I think it is Gizmodo a part of it too.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, they were all a part of like a Gawker
media company.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Right, And uh, Gawker was very kind of New York
New York media, very snarky, and they were and they
would talk about people, if this person has some you know,
revenge porn pictures what we call now revenge porn pictures,
they don't want you to see this, and then they
would show it and it was different people and it
was and that that shit. I don't appreciate it all.
So I'm not on Gawker's side with this. No, it's gross.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
So they published like two minutes of the video on
their website. I never watched it because if I'm going
to watch porn, I wanted to turn me on, not
make me sick. So I didn't watch it, but I'm
sure I'm sure, I'm sure a lot of people did.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
So.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Hogan sues Gaker and he gets some financial help to
file this lawsuit by Peter Thiel, who we have a
whole episode on. He's a big Silicon valley like billionaire
co funded PayPal. He invests in this because he is
mad at Gawker for like publishing a story about him

(28:24):
being gay, and he was looking for.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Revenge, right, And they would out people too, yes, and
and they would do with a tone of like this
isn't bad at all, We're totally okay with, you know,
people being gay. But then they would like write this
language that was very fiery and whatever, and they would
say this man is having sex with this person and
these are their pictures, you know, their office pictures that

(28:47):
they have their office ID pictures. Yeah, and then like
this is the hotel they're at and blah blah blah,
and not even think for a second like that other
person is a private person. That other person has a family,
They're going to be Yeah, anyway, I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
This is time, This is no. This is how we
get something like Gawker is how you get to TMZ, Right,
Like you.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
They called so Tz could get in a bulldozer and
has kill us all exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
And I think, if I remember correctly, Gawker's whole thing
was Peter Thiel was investing in like causes that hurt
gay people, like and they're like, you're a gay person,
what are you doing? And he's like, I don't like that.
So he gets in on this lawsuit and it works,
like he gets his money's worth right because the jury

(29:36):
rules in favor of hul Kogan. He gets like one
hundred and fifteen million dollars in damages, sixty million for
emotional distress. It's a shit ton of money. Now stay
with me here, because during this trial, like the sex
tape is admitted into evidence and there's a transcription from

(29:58):
the sex tape and all this. And in July twenty fifteen,
the National Inquirer and the website raider Radar Online run
articles about the racist rant that Hogan does on the
sex tape, Like they don't.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
He's doing that when he's sleeping with somebody, like like
he's like.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Talking to her beforehand, where he's like and he's like
really just he's expressing how disgusted he is that Brooke
is dating a black man. He drops the end bomb
multiple times. Did you just see his sopranos. That's a
very similar story. Mean, member, maybe he is. Maybe he's aid,

(30:40):
don't sue us, Maybe he isn't. He even says in
the video like I'm racist to a point, which is
also known as being racist. He also used a bunch
of homophobic slurs in the sex tape, and then after
that came out, like a couple of days later, it
out that when he was visiting Nick in prison, those

(31:03):
phone calls are recorded, and he would he dropped the
ed bob multiple times in there and hoped that his
son wasn't going to be in prison with any black men,
you know, and using the N word and all this
stuff so gross. So, despite admitting that he's racist to
a point, Hogan quickly releases a statement that's like that

(31:24):
he's wrong, and he apologized, and those words don't align
with his values. The words that you use don't align
with your value.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yes, in a private conversation that you don't know is
being recorded, Okay, yes.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Right, exactly makes sense. So and even with that totally
heartfelt apology, uh, the you know, WWE's like, no, thank you,
and they terminated his contract and they remove him from
like the website, the Hall of Fame, they remove his
merchandise like everything was gone. Don't worry, it's all back.

(31:56):
It's all back, y'all because cancel cultures. Like by twenty eighteen,
all that shit was back on the website for purchase,
like it doesn't matter. But other businesses also were like,
no thank you, so, like his action figures were taking
all his various merchandise removed from like Target, Toys, r Us, Walmart,

(32:18):
no thank you. So after he wins his case against
Goker and getting almost one hundred and fifty million dollars
from it, Wow, he filed another lawsuit against Goker for
leaking the sealed court documents to the National Inquirer and
Radar Online that outed him as a homophobic racist, and

(32:40):
he won that one too, Wow. And that's what put
Gawker out of business. So wow, he got he got
another thirty million dollars in cash from that. Yeah. Yeah,
and that put that puts Cocker out of business. But
by it wasn't very very long after that. Hogan is

(33:01):
now like he has his lavish lifestyle and everything in
his divorce and all of that it like nearly bankrupted him.
So like there goes a lot of his money, you know.
But you know, saying racist and homophobic things doesn't get
you kicked out of show business, as we know, because
then we wouldn't have a podcast. So he was back
on TV. You know, he showed up on American Idol.

(33:27):
He uses his name for video games, his image his
name or in video games. And because he's a racist
who loves other racists, he's a big supporter of Predator Trump,
which means he gets to appear on Fox News and
with the other washed up showbiz types like the Scott
BeOS Watch Bayo Watch and Kevin Sorbo, you know, Hollywood's

(33:52):
brightest stars, the real think tank there. You know, he
was on Fox News just last year sharing his the
that's about gender roles, because who doesn't want that from
Hulk Hogan And I could do my whole Cogan impression.
You know. It's like, well, brother, at the end of
the day, there's a chain of command our Lord and savior,

(34:14):
the wife and the husband and the kids. And at
the end of the day, the mother is to nourish,
but the man is to protect and servant pervide okay, okay, sure, yeah,
time for your meds, Grandpa. He spoke at the like
Nazi palooza rally that Trump held at the Madison Square Garden, right,

(34:38):
you know, he did the whole like, I don't see
any stinking terrorists here. I only see a bunch of
hard work in men and women, the real American's brother.
And then he tried to like rip his shirt, but
it like fucking didn't work for him, so it looked
like he was like really struggling his shirt up. You know.

(34:59):
He also said a bunch of shit about uh be
about Vice President Harris's like race, and of course he
did yeah. And then so most recently he's on Raw
like a wrestling event on Netflix. It's like their hard
launch of their new wrestling's going to be on Netflix.

(35:20):
They bring out Whole Cogan and everyone booze and they
bow him so hard that I heard it and I
wasn't even watching it. That's how like they're like booing him,
like they just hate his fucking guts. Like, and he
he comes on because he wants to promote his Real
American Beer brand. That's the name of his beer brand,

(35:43):
Real American Beer for God's sake, So who's the real American?
I don't even want I don't I hate when people
talk about like who's a really mirror game? I would
be embarrassed to drink that. And I drink zema back
in the day. Like gross, So he he gets booed.

(36:03):
He hates that. Obviously the wrestling people don't love that either,
because they thought it would be this big nostalgia thing
like We're gonna bring out Hull Cogan and everyone's like
fuck that guy boo. And then actor Dave Baptista, who
is in like Guardians Galaxy movies, which he's so good in,

(36:25):
so like, uh, what was the other one? Cabin in
the not cabin in the woods. It was like he
did he did a really scary one last year that
was really good, something about a cabin in the woods. Anyway,
He's very good, uh and an overall delight You should
follow him on social media. He rescues Pitbulls's delightful anyway. Uh.

(36:48):
He posted something on social media that was like, Hey,
I'm glad that like wrestling fans did the right thing,
like good on you kind of thing, and h Hule
Cogan responded, is this irrelevant man? And still talking about me, like, yes,
he's an actual movie star exactly. I'm like, you're washed

(37:10):
up former wrestler slash actor, slash spokesperson who just got
booed off the go off loser like whatever. So I'm
gonna wrap it up with this. Hul Cogan is such
a liar, a notorious liar, that there's a section of
his Wikipedia that's just for his lies, and I think

(37:32):
that's worth calling out. So multiple times, Hulk Cogan claimed
that he was one of the last few people to
see Carrie von Eric before his death. Is how he
pronounced his name. The guy from the Iron Claw? What's
the Iron Claw? The wrestling movie with oh Zac Efron.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I'm sorry, I haven't seen that one yet. Everybody tells
me it's really good. I should see it. I just
haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Sorry. Okay, First of all, it is really really good,
but it is very very sad, very sad. I thought
I was going to see a fun wrestling movie. Lol,
I was not playing Buriel's wedding.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
You think it's gonna be about a few girls that
hang out in Australia, that's fun.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I saw it. I literally I sobbed and at one
point I actually said out loud, Jesus fucking Christ because
it's like not prepared. So anyway, it's a bull. It's
a terrible lie. What else did he do? He claims
that he was scouted by the by Major League Baseball,

(38:34):
but he suffered an elbow injury. Sure, and that's why. Yeah,
that never happened. He played okay. Yes. He claimed that
he played in the Little League World Series when he
was a kid with a batting average of point seventy
one four. That's a really good batting average. The Little
League Baseball is like, No, he never played at those events.

(38:58):
He claimed that Elvis Presley was a big fan of his,
but Elvis Presley died two years before ho Cogan ever
made his appearance. He claimed that the Rolling Stones and
Metallica have asked him to play bass for their bands. Lol.
He said that Andre the Giant weighed over six hundred
pounds when they wrestled. That's not true. He claims he

(39:21):
was offered the starring role in the film The Wrestler
that he turned it down was Cage one, No, the
one with Mickey Nicky. That's what I'm thinking, yes, right, yes,
And also he once claimed to have a ten inch penis.
But during the Gawker trial he had to admit that
that wasn't true and that when he said that, he

(39:44):
was speaking as the character hul Cogan and not as
his real person, Terry Bolea. So sorry, ladies, only hul
Cogan has a genus. Terry is a grower, not a shower,
and that is our creep hole Cogan. Good job, Sonya

(40:07):
beg you. Yeah, he's a bit of a turd. There
a turd, that's what a turd. Listen to listen to
our spin off. Well, we always end the show with
somebody who is not a creep.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
But when something like what's happening right now the Los
Angeles fires, Sony and I like to talk about you know,
you feel really helpless when things like this happen.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
And we both.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Feel like when you're feeling vulnerable, be of service. That's
like the best way that you can feel like you're
actually doing something you could feel whatever. So I was
following somebody on Blue Sky and I'm going to bring
her up right now, and she listed a bunch of
Susan l she's part of the Harris Walls team. I think,

(40:56):
oh okay, but she put she lives in South in California.
So she'd listed in no particular order, a bunch of organizations.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
So I'm going to bring them up for you now.
So there's World Central Kitchen. Yes, they're always a good one.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
That's always a good one. So and the links are
in our show notes. But they're providing. First. They have
a relief team of responders in southern California for the wildfires,
and the wildfires, like we're saying, they're just hopping around
because of the wind right now, this is just completely terrifying.
We have Pasadena Community Foundation, which is it's been in there.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Let me sorry to bring this up. It was established
in nineteen fifty three.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
It's a tax exempt public charity created for and by
the people of Pasadena. So if you're if they can
help you out there. We have Los Angeles Regional Food Bank.
They're always looking for donations. We have one here for
the California Fire Foundation. There's also the Red Cross of
othern California Wildfires has their own little tab on their site.

(42:04):
There's also the California Wildlife Center because unfortunately we have
so many animals out there. I mean, it's that's just
the most upsetting thing that we're left belge.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
I've seen yeah, I've seen some footage too of some
of the wild animals running into the cities. Yes, because
they don't know what it's all. They're terrified. Yeah, there's Yes,
it's awful. And then there's a link here, and this
is through Act Blue. You could split your.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Donation for the Los Angeles Fire Department Foundation, the United
Way of Greater Los Angeles, and the Los Angeles Regional
Food Bank. There we have all these links in our
show notes.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
There's another one I want to throw in there too,
and I'll throw the link in there too, is for
the Pasadena Humane Society. Oh, they've taken in a lot
of the other Humane Society's animals and they are overrun.
They are overrun, and they are asking for any at
all donations and how help to help with all the

(43:02):
additional animals they've taken on.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
I'm sure there's going to be a foster situation going on.
They're going to need people to help bring in these
poor animals. Yeah. I don't think like deers and like,
you know, raccoons or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I think they'd be I mean, I mean, I would,
I would, I would love to take in some raccoons
and possums. But I don't think Max and Toby would
approve it. But your son would think it was awesome.
I know he'd be like, this is amazing. It's the
best thing of my life. But those are in his room.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
But those are places you can go, you know, to
do that. And yes, you know, we encourage you reach
out to you anybody you know that's out there, people
you know you with in northern California, you've had a
bunch of fire uh occurrences that we've had.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
There's like a whole town that goes away. Yeah, all
of Paradise got completely wiped out a couple of years ago.
It's it is so awful. And I know that we
have a lot of listeners down there. I have a
lot of friends and family down there. And if you
know people, they're just check in. Yeah, just make sure
that they're okay, Like and some people don't want to

(44:07):
ask for help and they're proud. Just put yourself out
there and ask like, do you need help? Are you okay? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I think Bethany Frankel from Real Housewives for her Be
Strong foundation, she's sending out gift cards, cash cards. They're like,
you know, a credit card, but it's got cash. I
don't have credit cards. Gift guy, Yeah, yeah, but they're
giving that to people. So if you need like a
couple of hundred bucks, like to just get some diapers
and whatever, they're they're bringing it out there. We were
talking off the air like some of the really shitty

(44:35):
takes that are going on right now. First of them
politicizing this and blaming Gavin News. I mean, the woman
that was following Gavin News and like, my.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Daughter's school for down. Are you gonna fix it?

Speaker 3 (44:43):
He's like, yeah, I'm calling the president right now. Well,
can I talk to him too, because we have He's like, yeah,
bye bye, I got a thing going on.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
But people are also saying things like, oh, these millionaires
lost their big house. Wait, please remember they're all kinds
of people that live there and work there, and most
of them are middle class, yes, you know, and their
home is their big equity in their lives, and it's
also their fucking home and these are your home is terrible.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
These aren't all like famous movie stars allionaires. There are
people who work in the restaurants, work in different service industries, there,
constructing some of these some of these firefighters, the teachers,
like all of these people. And it's not just oh,
they lost their furniture or whatever, like they're losing everything,

(45:35):
like and their all those memories and their photo albums,
and they're like all the birthday cards they've saved from
the grandma or whatever. Like it's absolutely awful. And to
pretend that I don't know that they somehow deserve it
because there's gay marriage. Yeah, like, you know, it's just

(45:58):
fucking bullshit and it's off. And I know that a
lot of our politicians like to pretend that climate change
isn't real, but we're seeing that it's it's literally changing.
It's snowing in Atlanta today. It never snows in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Right, And the planet is at the hottest this year
that it's been in many many years. And you could
look at like what the storms were like one hundred
years ago versus now and even just last thirty years,
how much it's changed. Yeah, I think al Gore mentioned,
I think.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, there was like a whole movie about it, you
get was old document hold documentary. But there all these
people are going to lose all their stuff, and then
on top of that, like a lot of insurance companies
are going to find reasons to not pay out right,
so it's going to be really, really shitty. And again,
we just need to take care of each other, So

(46:49):
try to be kind, lead with kindness if you can, please,
or just shut your mouth, or just shut your builthy mouth. Brother.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
That's our show today. We'll be back next week with
a new episode. And if you like the sound of
our voices, and by golly, if you've listened to this long,
you do look like the sound of our voices. We
co host a show called Dorking Out, where Sony and
I dork out about movies and movies we love. And
there's also sometimes you do movies we love to make
fun of. And then you and I we have our
favorite category, which is Margo and Sonya ruin your Childhood,

(47:27):
where we talk about a beloved film, like saying almost Fire.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
That's one of our famous ones. Yes, and we torch
it for what it is. Yeah, what are we covering next, Sonya? Yeah,
I take no pleasure in this one, but we are
going to talk about sixteen Candles. It's just it's time.
We've put it off long enough. It's time to talk
about it. So we're going to talk about it, and

(47:51):
I think it's gonna be pretty epic. I think we're
gonna have a good time with that one. I think
so too.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Remember you can rink that out, check that out, and
remember you can send us your suggestion questions and all
those places I mentioned at the top of the show.
The social media wise email will always be there. We
could tell you that we got that much for you.
What a creep podcast at gmail dot com. And thank
you all of you that have been asking for stickers.
I'll definitely try to get those out to you. If
not next week, I'll get it out to you next week. Sonya,

(48:16):
where can they find you?

Speaker 2 (48:18):
You can find me at the Sonia Show dot com
and the Sonia Show on Blue Sky and the beads
and Instagram, uh and uh the TikTok for as long
as that's the thing that might be going too, I know,
yeah so, but my website will always be there, so
if you want to find me the Sonia Show dot com,

(48:38):
Sonya with an E, where can people find you?

Speaker 3 (48:39):
My friend, I'm at Brooklynfitchick dot com. I'm at Brooklynfitchick
for threads and Instagram. We'll see how long that goes,
and my Brooklyn Margo with Blue Sky and also for
the TikTok as long as that happens, and then my
YouTube is at my name Margo Donahue.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
All right, everyone, thank you so much for listening.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Remember, be safe, be kind, don't be a creepy, a
creep brother.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Thank you for listening to us talk about creeps. You
can follow us at What a Creep Podcast on Facebook, Twitter,
and Instagram, but don't follow us too closely. You can
email us your creepy stories at what a Creeppodcast at
gmail dot com.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
But please keep your dick thixt to yourself.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
The Paplan a cap and a tabar a pink band,
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