October 12, 2024 • 48 mins
All-new EXCLUSIVE conversation with a man who’s guarded some of our top Hip Hop, R&B and various genres of stars! From what happens when outsiders offer him $50 million dollars for the stars ‘secrets’, to the REAL danger he experiences every time he guards a client! You don’t want to miss this conversation! Support the host ‘Dee Shields’ by listening, sharing and keeping the conversation going! Talk back via social media: IG/X/Threads @iamdeeshields ! Media, contact the host if you need any additional contact information to invite the guest on your shows as well!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Lovis, thank you for stopping by the studio. I
am your host, D Shields, and I have an exclusive
conversation and interview with the bodyguard from the industry. We
are on a phone call and you're gonna hear it,
go in and out. I'm gonna fill you in on
all the parts that you cannot hear. Thank you for
stopping by. You're not gonna want to miss this conversation. Hey,
(00:23):
I'm thanks so much for stopping by. I am your host,
D Shields, and I appreciate you guys for coming back
for another conversation with D Shields. We're talking today to
an industry bodyguard. As I told you before, you've seen
him on Prime in one of the videos. We're talking
to him regarding what's most popular in all the topics today.
So we're talking about the industry and are we going
(00:44):
to be making a change in hip hop.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Based on the way that the industry goes.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Let's just see what it's like from the life of
We've heard from different artists.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We've heard from hip hop, from rap to heavy metal.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We've even heard from an actor this week who had
his things to say.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So now we're.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Gonna talk to a bodyguard? What is it really like
in that industry? Thank you for stopping by and say
hello to my listeners. Okay, so we go into a
conversation where he's saying hello.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So look here we are again, you and I over
a decade having a legendary conversation on my other platform.
We had a conversation over a decade ago. A lot
of time has passed, a lot of things has happened.
We're in twenty twenty four now, and this year it's
really been a lot, especially when it comes to the
type of industry that you seem.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
To be around all year long.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So let's talk a little bit, beginning with what it
is that you do. Share your humble beginnings with the listeners.
What was life like before being a bodyguard?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So, although much of going to be shared in The
Bodyguard's upcoming bug, after the curtain closes, we do capture
a glimpse of his life among hip hop and we
talk about the industry's top stars that he started out.
I asked him about his beginnings and just getting a
glimpse as to where he started and what type of
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artists that he started with and I've been you know,
friends with him for a while, and I was shocked
at even some of the parts of the story. And
even I've been a part of, you know, as he's
getting his whole you know thing together for the book,
and I'm learning a lot of his story right along
with you all. So I appreciate you stopping by. Make
sure you connect with me. I am D Shields. You
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can find me on x and you can also I'm
gonna bring you back into the conversation, but you can
find me on social media. I am D Shields and
if you want to hang around on TikTok, you can
find me at I AM D Shields CEO. So I
am D E E S H I E L D S.
And I'm going to bring you guys back into the
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conversation as we continue to talk about the beginning part.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Of his life.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And then once we get to a round a few
minutes more into the conversation, the audio is a little
bit better and I don't have to interrupt this much,
but I'm going to take you guys into that part
of the interview. You know what, you don't start bigger
than fifty cent, So that was you know.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Like you know how you start a business and you
hope you get maybe.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Like ten customers to come in, and all of a sudden,
the opening day, a thousand people stop by. That's what
it's like to start with fifty cent, especially to who
he is today. Right. So here he's agreeing with me
and we're talking about fifty cent was one of the
first artists.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
He said.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
He was working with Anton and they were working at,
you know, a club that needed some people to protect
the artists because this you know thing is getting bigger
now and they have some big names. So he gets
to start out with fifty cent as one of his
first fifties. Environment at this time, he says, was violent
because a lot of people were trying to get at it.
(03:55):
Like I've seen so much, you know, I follow fifty
for a long long time, so I've seen him tell
his story. I've seen the Oprah interview. I've seen a lot,
and he has overcome a lot in that world.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Is no joke.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Shout out to atl That's where my deceased husband was
killed in the war. He's from Atlanta. In the streets
of Atlanta or no joke. Those that are there will
tell you that on any day so you're you're doing
some industry you know that includes bow Wow, right, so
you're you're in the hot heat part of it.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You're getting a lot of experience at this point.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So to say the industry is a constant moving entity
would probably be an understatement. How many artists and venues
have been a part of your bodyguard and assignment aside
from fifty bow Wow and some of the ones that
you just mentioned, what do you think over the industry time,
how many have you worked with? So he's going on
(04:51):
to talk about some of the people that he's worked with,
you know, we're going to talk about that in a minute,
you know, some of the artists that he's worked with.
And so again about fifty, he said, is that fifty
was one of the first big clients at the height
of his career where he you know, he was wanted
by everybody.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And this is at the start of fifty's career where he.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Had to guard him against a lot of danger that
was happening to fifty at the time.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So he says, for.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Those of you, you know, we just talked about how
it's been heard and seeing in different articles and interviews
and stories about that time. So we talk about that,
and he shares how he went on to guard bow
Wow at the height of bow Wow's career, and he
also was at the height of Sierra's career. You know,
he's gone on later on in his career to bodyguard
(05:35):
Kerry Hillson, the Baby Country artists R and B and
so many other artists from multiple genres.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay, and so then here's the deal here.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Who would you say gets the Who is that the
most difficult or most large crowd.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Out of everyone that you've worked with.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I mean, everybody thinks they have a big crowd, right,
But who's a difficult crowd to you out of all
the artists.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So he had to think about it for a minute.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And then of all, and you know, it's no surprise
that he says when it comes to the challenging crowds
and the crowds with the fans or fanatics as he
further describes him, he definitely says that it's rapple.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
How when we're doing rap artists opposed to doing the R.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And the artist right, right, And I can only imagine
when it comes to that lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You know, you got to you got money many a
little baby off.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Thanks You're doing.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
All these guys got friends, so that stage gets packed
with all kind of gangsters and people and do all
the time. And a lot of times these guys haven't bet,
so you have to at the all time.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
And you've seen it in on some.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Films where gods get on stage and get at the artist.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
So we're always gonna alert.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
What you're doing to be dealing with you know what,
I was watching the film that one of the films
that you're featured in on Prime, and just in that
film alone, I can see what you guys. You know
that the crowds are vicious. You know, it's one thing
to be a fan, but to be a vicious crowd
because you love the artists, it's just a whole different thing.
So before we go further, let's just talk about that.
(07:38):
Is it as simple as being a security guard in
a corporate office building somewhere or is it more similar
to the challenges that law enforcement face every day?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
What now, comparison to a mall guy in the ball
on the threat level is way different. So they're they're
pretty much uh, carrying the area and making sure the
whole area is safe. And what's somebody gonna come in
and Robert Store, maybe a Robert person.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
When you have when you're a personal protecting your.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Artists, you're with that person all the time, and the
threat level is ten times higher. So I would probably
go more closer to uh a police officer because the
threat level is better and more.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
And let's say you have.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
An artists affiliated with a game, and now you've got
to deal with no game situations, You're gotta deal with
street situations. You might have pieces you gonna happen, you know,
you guys, so I would happen to uh uh uh
king King King Von people like that. You know, you
have to want to learn it all the time that
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was gonna come from. You don't never know when your
box right across.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
The cliff from And even in the film, you guys
have you know, Missy Elliott, she's no problems in those streets.
You know, she's no problems, but then her whole us
get shot up while bodyguarding her. So yeah, you just
it seems to be like, you know, I would agree
that it's more like law enforcement on any given Sunday.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
There ain't being an artist you got jifous somebody telling
us that she didn't use their song in the videos.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Sometimes, so you never know. And you go in a
different city and somebody want you your your your.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Your tour schedule. I can pull it up on Google.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So if I want to get at you, I know, Okay,
she's gonna get a Chicago this day, you're gonna be
a mythic.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
This day, we're gonna do it. We're gonna get her
a mythic. And you don't know that. So you the
way you move has to be stratifically.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Done all the time. You gotta be on the point.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
You gotta make sure your autist's safely all the time
at every city.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So festivals like right now this weekend, we're on the
second weekend of Austin City Limits Festival. Right you have
huge like Chaperone and some huge artists that have hit
the stage, Queen Hervey, et cetera. Those festivals are almost
unpredictable because they're outside these trees.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Are those more challenging?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So is there more challenging because the security levels are less?
You gotta remember these security guards that these will make
paying twelve thousand dollars and most of them didn't want
to just company the show, So a lot of things
give by.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Undetected in the festival and.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Then back dage is usually always uncontrolled and in general
what city brand, So movement of your client is very critical,
accessible because of outdoors un controlled. So if somebody wants
you bathroom, they can still be on the fence and
pick you up they want to, or they can get
a gang of twenty people, or Russia defense will come.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
And get you.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
They need to get to you always, Yeah, move you.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Want to get their data?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Who you gotta do and you.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Gotta get out?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, I can't Okay, So I can't even you know,
I can't even imagine because like when you just said
that part that the security of just some minimum wage
workers that want to see the star themselves, that they
are not helping you at any point.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
So that, yeah, that is my challenging for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
You know. Let me go into the next question, what
exactly is a bodyguard to the stars.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I mean, it's kind of plain English, but what would
you say it is.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Somebody Sometimes you have to just.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
About yourself because you don't want most most part we
are retali and so your job.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Is that's the situation.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And usually that's why advanced thing, the venue are wherever
you guys going to be at advance the course? You
want to go there? You want to see where we're
going to park at, Where where the hell is?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Where is the bath?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
How we're gonna get in, how we to get out?
They're gon supposed to be there? Who's sitting next to us?
Who else is on the bill? So now I have
a whole h knowledge of what's going on. Now move
my article tetically so we can have left business bill
by and left huh, contregating around people, so we get.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
In and out right, and then not to mention, you
may even have I'm taking it all the way back
to the nineties.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You may have a puff and should and they write
the same venue at the same thing and they got
bee for each other.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, that's over time. That's working over time as a
bodyguard at that point all the time.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, that's why I ask a questions, who's gonna be here,
This person's gonna be gonna be here, there's a good chance.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Should gonna show up, right, stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Right, So now you that you that you ask for people,
what do you guys, what's your crme here for letting
people in, you know, and then when they do they
have that is they don't have that, you know, So
it's somebody.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Like I should n They're gonna let him in. He
come there with thirty.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
People, who goes off right exactly, of course, because he's
making your money in the door doll right exactly. And
most people they tend to give themselves a reputation, and
some people are wouldn't even challenge him, be too terrified
to challenge him at the front door.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
So yeah, I've seen that happen.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Challenge nobody coming there with thirty people. You know, they
trapped that I made four dollars a dollar exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
They're gonna kill the radio. They're gonna say, old man,
the night come.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
But now for you to secure your artists are getting
them out of whatever is that you're gonna do. And
most artists not gonna pour gold their money because shut
Knight shows up man for to make money.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Your job was to protect me from him. That's where
he stepped in.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Right, Okay, So moving, you know, in in the direction
of but is there social media seems to think that
there's a difference. Oh, a hip hop you know concert
is less violent than a heavy metal concert. You work
in the industry, what do we you know? Are we
talking problems could happen in any genre of music.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, problems can't happen in any giant But it's the
it's the different problem that may happen.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
You know, most rock.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Fans, younna have somebody high or some ex some pills
or drunk and gonna do some drunk stuff. At a
at a at a at a rap concert, You're mostly
gonna have somebody drunk and how they want to do
some violent stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
At a country western concert, it's gonna be some.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Drunk person that wants to get close to faith, you know,
you know, or if you if you have a country
I mean R and B, it's gonna be some little
wild girl that want to touch Michael Jackson. He goes, hey,
I don't want to get a hold of the tape.
I don't want to hurt paint or I just want
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him to hug me. I want to get you know,
that kind of stuff. So the threat level and the
situation that may happen is different. You go to a
app cost if the dude that might get drunk and
want to actually shoot the cop shoot your artist. So
the difference of the threat is different.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
But the threat that we could still can't be the same.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
So from Karen right to Reba mcintie to Jelly Roll,
you just never know what could happen.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Right back, and Tyre might have a dark She's beautiful, right,
just some old guy have been following her for twenty
years now to get a chance to go to the
show and get a take it to the meet and greet.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Here's my chance with Reba McIntyre. There's one chance. I'm
gonna grab a kiss in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's something awful.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah, if you are a rap artist.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I got a little knife in my pocket and I
hate god. That ain't fifty here's my chance.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah, that was the thing.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
It's just that the kind of giant that you have,
your your actual uh.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
All right, So you know we you know, I'm from Texas.
You know, Texas baby as the ton of saying. So
we we keep our law enforcement assisting you guys the best,
you know, in my opinion, So what city is more
difficult to guard? I would feel that North Texas, Dallas, Austin,
you know, San Antonio week pretty much you don't play
(16:23):
you come to Texas on vacation. You're gonna leave on probation.
So a big venue probably isn't gonna have any problems.
But Miami to Houston, Africa to Germany to Amsterdam, which
crowd is the most challenging.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
When you come to the United States. I don't think
that the city it's all the bat you know, unless
you got gang related situation like Chicago and the New
York and the lads. That's more gang related of rel
kind of stuff. Other people just local, you know, local
thud life.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Before the crowd control. The wildest people I have to
say Africa because you have to remember they don't get to.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
See us as much and they love us over there,
so they're nails so much higher and they don't mean.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
No harm, but they are blood. They are buck wild
and uh they'll do anything anything to get to get a.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Glimpse, to get a touch of an artist. Right, So
I would say the most wildest I would go.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I'll have to go African, Okay, okay, yeah, And you know,
like you know, being a fan in loving the artists,
you know, and just saying if I could just get
close to them, there's one thing. But you know, I'm
writing a book on call demeanor, and you know, I'm
talking about mood regulation.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
People have to get their minds right for concerts.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You don't know if it's going to go to the left,
like the concert in Houston where a bunch of people
got trampled. You don't know what's gonna happen. So you
got to not just be out there too crazy. I'm
I'm a I'm a fan of the artist Black. I
went to his concert last year. I'm friends, you know,
best friends, good friends with his dad. And I just
saw the fans going crazy, and I'm like, you got
(18:19):
to have a little bit of common sense when y'all
go to these concerts.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
But you know that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You remember, you remember fans short, fan is short for fanatic,
and fanatic does have a little crazy with our sen
girls wait outside the venue.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Half neckad a bikini waiting just the artist passed by.
Is in the cars they can and it's thirty degrees, right.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I think fans our thing. Fans don'g gonna jump on
top of cars. I had a fan jump on one
of our artists butt and and grab. I'm talking about
a bus.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
You crambed at the back of the bus. And she said,
I'm not leaving her see him. So I had to
feel her. I had to go up there like king
call and grab her down and bring her down.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I mean, fans do a lot that they jump in
front of the in front of your car, you know
they they Then you got.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
The sneaky fans who find out what hotel you in.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
They'll get a hotel room in the same hotel, and
there's always somebody who leaks will flow in and it's sitting.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
On the floor waiting for our waiting for the artist
to come. I mean everything.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
That's why we do back entrance and we go up
in service ele favors so nobody can see that the
fan that the artist is there, that.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You know what. And then it just it feels like
they almost I just almost feel for the start every
time I hear that some friends would flow and you know,
friends with you, and I just hear all the time
like it seems like these artists don't have lives. But
we're not going to get into that yet. We're gonna
talk about the bodyguard. But almost just like how that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I just want to get on the microphone and saying,
but then I got to go all the around just
to live to get to the microphone. So that's a
crazy light, that's a crazy.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Life the territory, and that's why you have to try
to make it as.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Normal as possible, exactly exactly because that some of them
can't handle it.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
The industry isn't for everyone.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And we've seen the small to the great fall, right, Okay,
So I want to go ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And get to the elephant in the room with you, bodyguard.
So listen.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
With recent news, we saw a singer and model Cassie
file a lawsuit against the industry's largest star in Mobile Diddy.
Diddy responded in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
To the lawsuit and he settles almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
And then in twenty twenty four we see the fence
rate three of his homes. Seeing In somehow oddly obtained
the video of the abuse that Cassie mentioned. A lot
of people stood behind him, but then the video came
out on seeing In somehow and people started turning against Diddy.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
The conversation, the conversation just got real real, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So September twenty four rose around, did he for his
attorney arrives in New York for the reason of turning
himself in the FEDS, blindside him in the hotel lobby
and take him to the jail the night before.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Media has been in a frenzy. A lot has unfolded
in the news.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Okay, so what do you feel bodyguards are experiencing with
all of this?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
As a right now, we in experiencing nothing. What went
on with Diddy went on with Diddy and his crew.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
So far as the bodyguard business of bodyguard, our job
has not been affective. Now what the bodyguard are saying,
tell me his ex bodyguards are saying, you know, that's
a different story. And I'm just gonna go on. I'm
just gonna tell you about me. I add one hundred
(21:52):
percent on lord. Loyal key is what I've said on nice.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
You know. Uh in twenty three years, I think I'm signed.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Only two nbas and that's because people know that my
word and my loyalty comes forward.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Anything.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You don't never have to worry about Harvey telling your business.
If I did, I wouldn't be in this industry that long.
So if something happens my uh, let's say my client
does something that I don't like.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
That he's doing what she's doing.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Leave quick, there you go.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Because you signed up for this, and sometimes your job
is not just to protect the artist.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Sometimes you tell to protect the artists from the extent.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Now, this probably only one thing that I probably can't condone.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
That I might. I might tell her if you deal
with some pedophilia, I ain't with that.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Your grandfather.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Now, as far as you freak off saying you freaking
keep on, you sat and say with guys or girls
or whatever, that's your business, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
take that to the grave.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
So the guys that are shooting the beans are making
the bath for people like us because you have you
will against the cold right. You know I signed when
I signed up the first time, you give me a
check on the first time I sign up to good
with you. I'm telling you I'm gonna protect you.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I'm gonna text your image, I'm gonna protect and I'm
I'm gonna I'm a bound.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
That without my word. So I don't have to sign
on NBA. They know they when they have me, you
guys sign Indian with.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Him, He stiled.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
You can give me fifty million dollars to say something
about any one of my clients. I'm gonna turn it down,
I get that check and I look in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I have to be able to be true to myself
and say, I'm cool, how I just bought this house,
and I won't knowing that.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
You did something in front of me, knowing.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I'm not gonna say nothing, and I don't win for
TMZ because they give me.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Fifty right where.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You know, you have to have some boundaries. You know,
I work in corporate spaces for over twenty years. I'm
now a paralegal. You have to be loyal to the
privacy that a CEO and an attorney needs, and they
don't want someone working for them that's going to step
outside that front door and tell all the business that
oftentimes cannot be talked about, could ruin billions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
So yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yours is the loyalty. And then the simple thing.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That you said when you can't handle if that was
honestly what your situation was, speaking myself to a former bodyguard.
If you couldn't handle that, then why didn't you leave?
It's every interview I've seen I'm going, well, why didn't
you leave? You know, you're talking about stories from the
early nineties.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I finding it hard to think that it was.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That bad for you.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
You know, then right because you said them about it.
If you can't handle the heat, they have to kid you.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
That's been the industry. It's a lot of weird, I
can tell y'all.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Okay, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
And that's just not to say, you know, I have
my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I have my opinion when it comes to a black
man in the industry being taken down for if if
they were only taking him down for say, the crucification
in the in social media has been about the baby
y'all and the freak offs. I don't think the feds
are coming for just that. But if that were to
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be the only thing, come on, I've seen white parties.
I've hell, I'm from Texas. Have you seen what happened
when cowboys go on the trail with their horses and
all the women that follow along on the trails and beds.
We want to go take a look at some of
those events. Like I mean, people being freaky is not
a crime. But if there is something going on and
like you said, and it was something that went against
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what you stood for, then you just walk away or
or call that person out and say Hey, I can't
stick with you because X Y Z right.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Yeah, I do believe being.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
But on the other hand, a lot of times we
put ourselves in a situation because or whatever, you know.
And if he is doing something as far as putting
something people's drink to make him boosts.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Out the crime, it's crime. It's a crime as much
as it was a crime for Bill Cosby. And if
you do something like that, you you know, you may
get away with something like that for for a few
but karma's gonna come around. You can't do people like that,
and don't I can't ever victim blame because once a
person is under the influence, they are not who they are,
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so you can't say victims at all.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
The individual with the control is the.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
One that would manipulate how a person is going to
behave for the next few hours, So that would always
be the person.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, for you, I don't know how religious you are,
how religious your your your.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Listeners are extremely wearing the Bible belt. No, but no,
I'm more spiritual than anything.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
But grew up.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
It was the devil waited after Jesus Fater for forty days.
He took him upon the highest point and he's said.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
If you bowed out to me, I would give you
all of it, all these lands, everything belong to you.
But what forget is the devil's job. While he was
in heaven, he was the angel of music and entertainment.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
He was the.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Entertained God himself almighty, and he knew that when I entertained.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
When so you guys, a little bit of sound out if.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
What they call the gods that draw.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
So the devil thought what he Manfaca thought of the God,
the creator in a trash for what I was saying,
I'm thinking, he so God, oh God. So he had
the devil down, and well people don't know where he
has the demo down with.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
His angels at.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
So when he did that, he left the angel. I
mean he left the devil with his same power. So
what did the devil do with heaven? He was a
massive entertainment would so now he come to earth and
he had taken over the da work.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Now what's going on now is you can call the
little mina, you.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Can call it whatever you want. What it what they
did was didn't he didn't the same thing the devil did. Hey,
jay z I you bow down to me, I'll forgive.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
You all is right.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
A lot of people, it only happens with a few,
and that is still biblical in a sense that it's
only gonna be a few. And you know, one thing
that I will say about jay Z after following and
watching him for so many years, Jay has always said
he on any given day, he knows it could all
be taken.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
So to know that there's an individual.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That has all of that yet is still fully aware
that at any given day they could take it from him,
it's so Malcolm xent in a sense to me. Because
Malcolm X said it, you know they're gonna put you
at the top pedalstal and tear you right on down right.
So yeah, And for those that are not believers, if
you're not religious, and if you're not religious and you're
(29:49):
not a believer, sorry about that. But I'll say this
to the listeners, if you're not religious and you're not
a believer.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Go watch The Adjustment Bureau.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
That film will carry out the exact same thing that
that the bodyguard just told you. So if you can't
find it from the Bible perspective, go watch that movie.
It'll give you the exact same point that he made.
It's literally gonna happen like that. If you've never seen
the adjustment Bureau, go watch it. Okay, continue, What were
you saying.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
That they give it to him here?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
They get the God confidence down here.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Well it gets to the point where he called his
help over, you know, Kanye with that, I'm Jesus.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
It's just everybody God on him.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
He changed the d because they get the God conflict.
Oh y'all listen to me, So that makes me God.
It's the same thing that ain't nothing different.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
This world we just passing through, right, so you know,
and that when I've been following, like I used to say,
and you know, for people that listened to me alone
time ago that my accountability. I used to say that
Puff and Russell Simmons were mentors of mine, you know,
because they were so the hustle was just so real.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
But I think that there is a point in a.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Time where you do get beyond yourself all what we
see it happen with some of the top CEOs. Have
y'all looked at twenty twenty four, Some of the major
CEOs of major companies are stepping down, and.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
It is because of that God complex.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
God beyond themselves felt untouchable and next thing, you know,
everything comes crashing.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Just look at Red Lobster.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We got a young black kid taking over Red Lobster
at thirty five years old because of a god complex
of giving out free shrimp and not understanding that that
would destroy the financial of a major enterprise. You know.
So too many people get beyond themselves with the riches.
So I'm gonna stand with you on that. So can
I move forward with another question?
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Yep? All right?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So what mini miss is that the bodyguard really has
a voice in a lot of this So your voice
matters in this industry. We talked before you sign NBA's
you don't Does that cause you to hold back or
is it just what you just said, it's your loyalty.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I don't need to turn of Indeed, when I when
I find on with you, what I'm saying is what
you do, stay between me and you no matter what.
But if it gets to a point where I don't
like it, I'm gonna come to you first. If you don't,
if you want to keep going, you know, to me
(32:26):
decide if I'm gonna leave it, if.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I'm gonna stay.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So I'm gonna ask you the same question that they asked.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
The current Vice president of the United States is running
for president in twenty twenty four, she was asked are
you armed?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
So I'm gonna ask you are you armed?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
All the time? I'm arming everything a city that I'm
legal to kill it.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
That's how dangerous the job is.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yes, because I hear I have been a shootouts, I
have been as farms. I have been in pitulations where
our life was threatened. So yes, I have. I do
carry a fire on all times.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
And depending on what kind of artist I have at
a threat level, I may have a bigger job.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I might go to an ak. It depends on what
we're doing, where we're doing, and what it is.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Regarding do I've seen you guys in the direct line
of fire when I was on Prime video watching Bodyguards
Secret Lives from the Watchtower. I've seen the training that
you guys have, so you're not not anything to be
fed with. It's what I'm thinking, m H.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
If you're gonna be serious about your job like anybody else,
if you're gonna be a serious teacher, you're gonna get
all the educational degrees and PDD.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
You can get.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
If you want to be a track star. You're gonna
go out there and run, run and run and work
out everything. If you're gonna be a bodyguard, you're gonna
do everything that you can do to make your craft
or to make you a better person for you so you.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Can so you can be elite in your craft. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I do take classes, Yes I do shoot. Yes I
stayed working out, I stay in shape. Yes I met ititated.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Yes I pray. Because you got to have a mind.
You can't just snap on everybody.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
You have to strategically, mentally, systematically get yourself out of
the situations without us to goup. I don't want to
shoot nobody right. I'd rather talk to you out of
the situation. And that's where I'm good at. I can say, hey, bro,
it ain't worth it now. Sometimes that ain't gonna work.
Sometimes I try to practice by fire, and.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Sometimes you guys are working for artists, mood regulation is
what I see that you do well, and I see
discipline that you do well. The particular artists that we've
been talking about over the last year, we've watched him spies.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Out and have lack of mood regulation.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
One thing that my father taught me when it came
to just getting into a street fight, because you have
to do that sometimes in these Texas streets.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But he always said, you're gonna lose if you're angry.
You can't You can't win a fight if you're angry.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
They tell boxers all the time when you you have
to you have to be able to get hit. If
you get hit and lose lose.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Your concentration on your focus, you're gonna lose canal. You've
lost all your discipline. I got you when I come
out here. There's guy that call me nigga bitches and
you're a punk in everything. If I lose it, and
if I put my hands on anybody, I gotta ask
myself first, is a business or a person?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Business is if you put your hands on my client
or threatened my client personally, if you put your hands
on me or custom.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Of me and call me out my leave, I have
to be with you. Keep that.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
You want to call me a pump whatever. Now you
wanna call him, Okay, cool, you're gonna keep on walking.
But the minute you put your.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Hands on me or my yeah, you're gonna get another
another person.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
See, I have a child that works in law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And I raised him on exercising patience, and I raised
him on mood regulation. He gets called every you know
how people are when they're drunk and getting arrested, daymn mad,
you know, so you get called everything in the world.
One thing that my child does well is mood regulation.
Who cares about what those people are saying. You can't
be triggered by words. And I'm watching, you know, that's
just my personal opinion, you know, And I know that
(36:12):
he you know, his people may not like it, but
if they were really just to look at at Diddy
and look at who he was as a person, that
lack of mood regulation and getting mad and going off
in spasm definitely is meeting It's karma for sure for
those of us, those of.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Us who've seen him over the years.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
So any other thoughts that you want to add in
regard to bodyguards sharing, you know you already said where
you stand with that, untold stories, or anything else that
you want to add on what we're talking about in
the media today.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Just mainly to understand the industry. Is that a lot
of judge to give you what the devil Jesus Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
To understand put that understand in your head, so you'll
understand what these people are going through. The only difference
is between these high ranking.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
All these money people and Jesus is Jesus didn't do it.
They took. They took what the devil was offering.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
So if you're gonna take what the devil is offering,
that means that he is now your God.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Right, and that's what's going on now. The only hue
saying you're here. You can say, okay, he he, he
is your God. But the people are under a trans
under a fault.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
God is a false authority. Year I give I give
you that, but you gotta remember, just like some of
you guys are.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Controlled by God, these people are controlled by the devil.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
They chose the deal that the devil gave on and
now they're reaping the bed. The consequence, he's gonna get worse. Yet,
it's gonna be a lot of people is gonna fall
behind this God always committed. Hey, everything that comes and
goes it a little dark gonna come to the life.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Do we have to change him up?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Do we have to you know, change change in what way?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Lyrics?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
What we're talking about, what we're presenting in videos, in lifestyles.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
No, because that's an agenda, and that's another whole podcast.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
The agenda is the fall of us.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
You know, if you ever go back to where rap
we're talking about positive stuff and you know, black power
and in education and change.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
The the white people didn't want that. They purposely went
in and changed. That's why y'all are here from.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
The heavy deeds and the public interv all the mother
and they don't want them no more.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
They purposely want rappers to talk about guns second violence
because that's what we listened to and we're gonna do
that and it's worked. You can see it's working.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Are young generation don't care about nothing but making some money,
killing up, getting the hide right and selling and selling
your body to give money from a guy. I love
making a value, but.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
I hate the messages.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
You know, we've seen the recent Glory Gloriala and we've
seen even Sexy Red say recently, well you know what
I did, what I had to do to get my
family up, But you know at what costs?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Will how far will artists go?
Speaker 5 (39:19):
The dog and then everything to your music if you
to get your money, what do you think they're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Because rights and how that's presented to the young girls.
And how do they know right from mom when they're
listening to that type of music.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
It's hard. But a mama cannot raise no little boy.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Not at all, not by herself.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
She needs a mentor in the community. Yeah, you need
a dad, You need a man tour, Yeah, because.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
You can't tell a little girl wouldn't like.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah. I was that, you know, when my husband was
killed in the war, I was an individual that was
left with having to gather all the men and the
community stood up for me. The support came from me.
The men stood up and said this. He has to
have guidance. And and I wish that for every single
mom you know that has children. You you need discipline,
(40:35):
you need guidance with your voice. It just has to happen.
If the future is you know, yeah, the world know going.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
On right now? Right now I don't want to happen.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
But now the lifting and I hope you guys to
see what's going on. And and I'm even with the
r Kelly situation, that's not a lot of blame on
r Kelly. There's a lot of dog walt.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
That need to be As I've said it from the
beginning with R.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Kelly.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You're not gonna talk to me about R. Kelly until
you come for those parents.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
So if you yeah, yeah, a fourteen year.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Old daughter with R.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Kelly have a secret meaning that any contractual musical whatever with.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Me, that's fat And I'm gonna.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Tell you from truth though some of the parents was
living in a house with Kelly.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I've heard it, and I've heard that directly from a
woman who was on my show and she was temporary
She wrote a book, but they shut her book down,
but she was temporarily married to R.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Kelly as well. So yeah, she told me that on
my show, the exact same thing. So yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Stuff we did, but the more playing they need to
be spread out a little bit, right, There ain't no
where in the world you're gonna have our fourteen fifteen,
fifteen year old daughter ain't no trick.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Wait, so you know what to wrap it up, Let's
say this.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
You know, the industry has to have support, So let's
stop for a moment, and who whose concert should we
go to because it is almost the end of the
year and I need a hot concert.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
So who do we need to be seen? Who who
has the best performance?
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I know you don't get to watch your bodyguard, but
what should we be going to see in this time?
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Okay, I'm not on tour right now. On an actual
it's the Natural Jazz and October Nothing.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Jaze October.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
I heard that was really really good. It's over.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Oh, I heard that was the best. I hate understand.
I hope it becomes a film. I want to see it.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yeah, you know, I think you who are you like?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
But don't don't don't hold what you think they're doing,
because I can tell you something.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Bad about everything you buy anybody, something about the person
you gotta go like.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Whatever I'm playing Kelly, I'm gonna tell you right now,
people can hate me from day one. I'm playing Diddy,
I'm playing r Kelly. I'm playing I'm watching Bill Cosby episodes.
You're not gonna take the art from me. You can't
take because the art came about for a reason and
God gave it to us, and you're not taking that
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art away from me.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
And I'm listening to that music.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
The one I'm on really good.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
I was surprised me, but it is the Maxwell tour.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
It's a really good one.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
He said, we are in we are.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Is it at the half half? Or how many how
many more months do we have to catch it?
Speaker 5 (44:02):
Uh, we're going all the way to October twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Oh we have time.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Okay, we have time.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
We got we got here, we got we got.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Louis Mephist Orleans, Vegas.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
When you've worked with.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Some of the greatest of artists and and I am
definitely I am the disciplined fanatic fan.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I go to the concert and I act right.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I don't give y'all hearts, you know, but thank you
so much for coming on and sharing the stories and
anything else. You know, you have a website. Anybody people
you want to shout out or you want to cut
it off from.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
He follow me on epigram at uh Guardian Security Atlanta
Guardian writing the book. The book is gonna be called
U after the curtain closed it for that contact, that's
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the way to get a hold.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
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them covered the United States and overseas.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
That'll cover over these out of states and let me
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Security dot Com is our website and you can go
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Speaker 2 (45:22):
Always the best conversation with these shields.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I appreciate you stopping by, friend, and I hope you
guys have a safe weekend.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Phenomenal conversation. Thank you so much for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I'm going to repeat those websites that he says on
my ex on my Twitter, so I will make sure
that I share those out again when I share the
link here for.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
All of you that are listening in and make sure
that you reach out.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
If you have a huge event coming up and you
need some security on top not level security where they're
going to do exactly what is needed to keep the
artist safe, which is very important for your venue, then
please make sure that you reach out via those links.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
And get ready again. As he shared, he has a
book coming up.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Okay, so we're going to be talking about the book
and definitely going to bring him back to talk more
about the book in the future. I wanted to make
sure that we go in there and after the curtain closes,
was the book going to make sure we repeat that,
So write that down, get ready for that after the
curtain closes.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Once you see the promos start for that.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
You already know that was the interview with that bodyguard
that D Shields had on and I want to get
more in debt as to what he's you know, shares
and seen and what that lifestyle is like and everything
that he has experienced in his personal life and industry
life while bodyguarden, as you heard, some of the top
stars in the industry. So we are excited about supporting that.
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So share, share, share, so that we can get this out.
So when that book comes out, you guys are making
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next time.
Hey, Lovis, thank you for stopping by the studio. I
am your host, D Shields, and I have an exclusive
conversation and interview with the bodyguard from the industry. We
are on a phone call and you're gonna hear it,
go in and out. I'm gonna fill you in on
all the parts that you cannot hear. Thank you for
stopping by. You're not gonna want to miss this conversation. Hey,
(00:23):
I'm thanks so much for stopping by. I am your host,
D Shields, and I appreciate you guys for coming back
for another conversation with D Shields. We're talking today to
an industry bodyguard. As I told you before, you've seen
him on Prime in one of the videos. We're talking
to him regarding what's most popular in all the topics today.
So we're talking about the industry and are we going
(00:44):
to be making a change in hip hop.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Based on the way that the industry goes.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Let's just see what it's like from the life of
We've heard from different artists.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We've heard from hip hop, from rap to heavy metal.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We've even heard from an actor this week who had
his things to say.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So now we're.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Gonna talk to a bodyguard? What is it really like
in that industry? Thank you for stopping by and say
hello to my listeners. Okay, so we go into a
conversation where he's saying hello.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
So look here we are again, you and I over
a decade having a legendary conversation on my other platform.
We had a conversation over a decade ago. A lot
of time has passed, a lot of things has happened.
We're in twenty twenty four now, and this year it's
really been a lot, especially when it comes to the
type of industry that you seem.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
To be around all year long.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So let's talk a little bit, beginning with what it
is that you do. Share your humble beginnings with the listeners.
What was life like before being a bodyguard?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So, although much of going to be shared in The
Bodyguard's upcoming bug, after the curtain closes, we do capture
a glimpse of his life among hip hop and we
talk about the industry's top stars that he started out.
I asked him about his beginnings and just getting a
glimpse as to where he started and what type of
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artists that he started with and I've been you know,
friends with him for a while, and I was shocked
at even some of the parts of the story. And
even I've been a part of, you know, as he's
getting his whole you know thing together for the book,
and I'm learning a lot of his story right along
with you all. So I appreciate you stopping by. Make
sure you connect with me. I am D Shields. You
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can find me on x and you can also I'm
gonna bring you back into the conversation, but you can
find me on social media. I am D Shields and
if you want to hang around on TikTok, you can
find me at I AM D Shields CEO. So I
am D E E S H I E L D S.
And I'm going to bring you guys back into the
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conversation as we continue to talk about the beginning part.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Of his life.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And then once we get to a round a few
minutes more into the conversation, the audio is a little
bit better and I don't have to interrupt this much,
but I'm going to take you guys into that part
of the interview. You know what, you don't start bigger
than fifty cent, So that was you know.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Like you know how you start a business and you
hope you get maybe.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Like ten customers to come in, and all of a sudden,
the opening day, a thousand people stop by. That's what
it's like to start with fifty cent, especially to who
he is today. Right. So here he's agreeing with me
and we're talking about fifty cent was one of the
first artists.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
He said.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
He was working with Anton and they were working at,
you know, a club that needed some people to protect
the artists because this you know thing is getting bigger
now and they have some big names. So he gets
to start out with fifty cent as one of his
first fifties. Environment at this time, he says, was violent
because a lot of people were trying to get at it.
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Like I've seen so much, you know, I follow fifty
for a long long time, so I've seen him tell
his story. I've seen the Oprah interview. I've seen a lot,
and he has overcome a lot in that world.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Is no joke.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Shout out to atl That's where my deceased husband was
killed in the war. He's from Atlanta. In the streets
of Atlanta or no joke. Those that are there will
tell you that on any day so you're you're doing
some industry you know that includes bow Wow, right, so
you're you're in the hot heat part of it.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You're getting a lot of experience at this point.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So to say the industry is a constant moving entity
would probably be an understatement. How many artists and venues
have been a part of your bodyguard and assignment aside
from fifty bow Wow and some of the ones that
you just mentioned, what do you think over the industry time,
how many have you worked with? So he's going on
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to talk about some of the people that he's worked with,
you know, we're going to talk about that in a minute,
you know, some of the artists that he's worked with.
And so again about fifty, he said, is that fifty
was one of the first big clients at the height
of his career where he you know, he was wanted
by everybody.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And this is at the start of fifty's career where he.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Had to guard him against a lot of danger that
was happening to fifty at the time.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So he says, for.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Those of you, you know, we just talked about how
it's been heard and seeing in different articles and interviews
and stories about that time. So we talk about that,
and he shares how he went on to guard bow
Wow at the height of bow Wow's career, and he
also was at the height of Sierra's career. You know,
he's gone on later on in his career to bodyguard
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Kerry Hillson, the Baby Country artists R and B and
so many other artists from multiple genres.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay, and so then here's the deal here.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Who would you say gets the Who is that the
most difficult or most large crowd.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Out of everyone that you've worked with.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I mean, everybody thinks they have a big crowd, right,
But who's a difficult crowd to you out of all
the artists.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So he had to think about it for a minute.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And then of all, and you know, it's no surprise
that he says when it comes to the challenging crowds
and the crowds with the fans or fanatics as he
further describes him, he definitely says that it's rapple.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
How when we're doing rap artists opposed to doing the R.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And the artist right, right, And I can only imagine
when it comes to that lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You know, you got to you got money many a
little baby off.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Thanks You're doing.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
All these guys got friends, so that stage gets packed
with all kind of gangsters and people and do all
the time. And a lot of times these guys haven't bet,
so you have to at the all time.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
And you've seen it in on some.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Films where gods get on stage and get at the artist.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
So we're always gonna alert.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
What you're doing to be dealing with you know what,
I was watching the film that one of the films
that you're featured in on Prime, and just in that
film alone, I can see what you guys. You know
that the crowds are vicious. You know, it's one thing
to be a fan, but to be a vicious crowd
because you love the artists, it's just a whole different thing.
So before we go further, let's just talk about that.
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Is it as simple as being a security guard in
a corporate office building somewhere or is it more similar
to the challenges that law enforcement face every day?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
What now, comparison to a mall guy in the ball
on the threat level is way different. So they're they're
pretty much uh, carrying the area and making sure the
whole area is safe. And what's somebody gonna come in
and Robert Store, maybe a Robert person.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
When you have when you're a personal protecting your.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Artists, you're with that person all the time, and the
threat level is ten times higher. So I would probably
go more closer to uh a police officer because the
threat level is better and more.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
And let's say you have.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
An artists affiliated with a game, and now you've got
to deal with no game situations, You're gotta deal with
street situations. You might have pieces you gonna happen, you know,
you guys, so I would happen to uh uh uh
king King King Von people like that. You know, you
have to want to learn it all the time that
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was gonna come from. You don't never know when your
box right across.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
The cliff from And even in the film, you guys
have you know, Missy Elliott, she's no problems in those streets.
You know, she's no problems, but then her whole us
get shot up while bodyguarding her. So yeah, you just
it seems to be like, you know, I would agree
that it's more like law enforcement on any given Sunday.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
There ain't being an artist you got jifous somebody telling
us that she didn't use their song in the videos.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Sometimes, so you never know. And you go in a
different city and somebody want you your your your.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Your tour schedule. I can pull it up on Google.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So if I want to get at you, I know, Okay,
she's gonna get a Chicago this day, you're gonna be
a mythic.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
This day, we're gonna do it. We're gonna get her
a mythic. And you don't know that. So you the
way you move has to be stratifically.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Done all the time. You gotta be on the point.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
You gotta make sure your autist's safely all the time
at every city.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So festivals like right now this weekend, we're on the
second weekend of Austin City Limits Festival. Right you have
huge like Chaperone and some huge artists that have hit
the stage, Queen Hervey, et cetera. Those festivals are almost
unpredictable because they're outside these trees.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Are those more challenging?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So is there more challenging because the security levels are less?
You gotta remember these security guards that these will make
paying twelve thousand dollars and most of them didn't want
to just company the show, So a lot of things
give by.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Undetected in the festival and.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Then back dage is usually always uncontrolled and in general
what city brand, So movement of your client is very critical,
accessible because of outdoors un controlled. So if somebody wants
you bathroom, they can still be on the fence and
pick you up they want to, or they can get
a gang of twenty people, or Russia defense will come.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
And get you.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
They need to get to you always, Yeah, move you.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Want to get their data?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Who you gotta do and you.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Gotta get out?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, I can't Okay, So I can't even you know,
I can't even imagine because like when you just said
that part that the security of just some minimum wage
workers that want to see the star themselves, that they
are not helping you at any point.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
So that, yeah, that is my challenging for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
You know. Let me go into the next question, what
exactly is a bodyguard to the stars.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I mean, it's kind of plain English, but what would
you say it is.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Somebody Sometimes you have to just.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
About yourself because you don't want most most part we
are retali and so your job.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Is that's the situation.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And usually that's why advanced thing, the venue are wherever
you guys going to be at advance the course? You
want to go there? You want to see where we're
going to park at, Where where the hell is?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Where is the bath?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
How we're gonna get in, how we to get out?
They're gon supposed to be there? Who's sitting next to us?
Who else is on the bill? So now I have
a whole h knowledge of what's going on. Now move
my article tetically so we can have left business bill
by and left huh, contregating around people, so we get.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
In and out right, and then not to mention, you
may even have I'm taking it all the way back
to the nineties.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You may have a puff and should and they write
the same venue at the same thing and they got
bee for each other.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, that's over time. That's working over time as a
bodyguard at that point all the time.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, that's why I ask a questions, who's gonna be here,
This person's gonna be gonna be here, there's a good chance.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Should gonna show up, right, stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Right, So now you that you that you ask for people,
what do you guys, what's your crme here for letting
people in, you know, and then when they do they
have that is they don't have that, you know, So
it's somebody.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Like I should n They're gonna let him in. He
come there with thirty.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
People, who goes off right exactly, of course, because he's
making your money in the door doll right exactly. And
most people they tend to give themselves a reputation, and
some people are wouldn't even challenge him, be too terrified
to challenge him at the front door.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
So yeah, I've seen that happen.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Challenge nobody coming there with thirty people. You know, they
trapped that I made four dollars a dollar exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
They're gonna kill the radio. They're gonna say, old man,
the night come.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
But now for you to secure your artists are getting
them out of whatever is that you're gonna do. And
most artists not gonna pour gold their money because shut
Knight shows up man for to make money.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Your job was to protect me from him. That's where
he stepped in.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Right, Okay, So moving, you know, in in the direction
of but is there social media seems to think that
there's a difference. Oh, a hip hop you know concert
is less violent than a heavy metal concert. You work
in the industry, what do we you know? Are we
talking problems could happen in any genre of music.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, problems can't happen in any giant But it's the
it's the different problem that may happen.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
You know, most rock.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Fans, younna have somebody high or some ex some pills
or drunk and gonna do some drunk stuff. At a
at a at a at a rap concert, You're mostly
gonna have somebody drunk and how they want to do
some violent stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
At a country western concert, it's gonna be some.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Drunk person that wants to get close to faith, you know,
you know, or if you if you have a country
I mean R and B, it's gonna be some little
wild girl that want to touch Michael Jackson. He goes, hey,
I don't want to get a hold of the tape.
I don't want to hurt paint or I just want
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him to hug me. I want to get you know,
that kind of stuff. So the threat level and the
situation that may happen is different. You go to a
app cost if the dude that might get drunk and
want to actually shoot the cop shoot your artist. So
the difference of the threat is different.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
But the threat that we could still can't be the same.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
So from Karen right to Reba mcintie to Jelly Roll,
you just never know what could happen.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Right back, and Tyre might have a dark She's beautiful, right,
just some old guy have been following her for twenty
years now to get a chance to go to the
show and get a take it to the meet and greet.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Here's my chance with Reba McIntyre. There's one chance. I'm
gonna grab a kiss in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's something awful.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah, if you are a rap artist.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I got a little knife in my pocket and I
hate god. That ain't fifty here's my chance.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah, that was the thing.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
It's just that the kind of giant that you have,
your your actual uh.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
All right, So you know we you know, I'm from Texas.
You know, Texas baby as the ton of saying. So
we we keep our law enforcement assisting you guys the best,
you know, in my opinion, So what city is more
difficult to guard? I would feel that North Texas, Dallas, Austin,
you know, San Antonio week pretty much you don't play
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you come to Texas on vacation. You're gonna leave on probation.
So a big venue probably isn't gonna have any problems.
But Miami to Houston, Africa to Germany to Amsterdam, which
crowd is the most challenging.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
When you come to the United States. I don't think
that the city it's all the bat you know, unless
you got gang related situation like Chicago and the New
York and the lads. That's more gang related of rel
kind of stuff. Other people just local, you know, local
thud life.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Before the crowd control. The wildest people I have to
say Africa because you have to remember they don't get to.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
See us as much and they love us over there,
so they're nails so much higher and they don't mean.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
No harm, but they are blood. They are buck wild
and uh they'll do anything anything to get to get a.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Glimpse, to get a touch of an artist. Right, So
I would say the most wildest I would go.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I'll have to go African, Okay, okay, yeah, And you know,
like you know, being a fan in loving the artists,
you know, and just saying if I could just get
close to them, there's one thing. But you know, I'm
writing a book on call demeanor, and you know, I'm
talking about mood regulation.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
People have to get their minds right for concerts.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You don't know if it's going to go to the left,
like the concert in Houston where a bunch of people
got trampled. You don't know what's gonna happen. So you
got to not just be out there too crazy. I'm
I'm a I'm a fan of the artist Black. I
went to his concert last year. I'm friends, you know,
best friends, good friends with his dad. And I just
saw the fans going crazy, and I'm like, you got
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to have a little bit of common sense when y'all
go to these concerts.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
But you know that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You remember, you remember fans short, fan is short for fanatic,
and fanatic does have a little crazy with our sen
girls wait outside the venue.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Half neckad a bikini waiting just the artist passed by.
Is in the cars they can and it's thirty degrees, right.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I think fans our thing. Fans don'g gonna jump on
top of cars. I had a fan jump on one
of our artists butt and and grab. I'm talking about
a bus.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
You crambed at the back of the bus. And she said,
I'm not leaving her see him. So I had to
feel her. I had to go up there like king
call and grab her down and bring her down.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I mean, fans do a lot that they jump in
front of the in front of your car, you know
they they Then you got.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
The sneaky fans who find out what hotel you in.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
They'll get a hotel room in the same hotel, and
there's always somebody who leaks will flow in and it's sitting.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
On the floor waiting for our waiting for the artist
to come. I mean everything.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
That's why we do back entrance and we go up
in service ele favors so nobody can see that the
fan that the artist is there, that.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You know what. And then it just it feels like
they almost I just almost feel for the start every
time I hear that some friends would flow and you know,
friends with you, and I just hear all the time
like it seems like these artists don't have lives. But
we're not going to get into that yet. We're gonna
talk about the bodyguard. But almost just like how that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I just want to get on the microphone and saying,
but then I got to go all the around just
to live to get to the microphone. So that's a
crazy light, that's a crazy.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Life the territory, and that's why you have to try
to make it as.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Normal as possible, exactly exactly because that some of them
can't handle it.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
The industry isn't for everyone.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And we've seen the small to the great fall, right, Okay,
So I want to go ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And get to the elephant in the room with you, bodyguard.
So listen.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
With recent news, we saw a singer and model Cassie
file a lawsuit against the industry's largest star in Mobile Diddy.
Diddy responded in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
To the lawsuit and he settles almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
And then in twenty twenty four we see the fence
rate three of his homes. Seeing In somehow oddly obtained
the video of the abuse that Cassie mentioned. A lot
of people stood behind him, but then the video came
out on seeing In somehow and people started turning against Diddy.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
The conversation, the conversation just got real real, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So September twenty four rose around, did he for his
attorney arrives in New York for the reason of turning
himself in the FEDS, blindside him in the hotel lobby
and take him to the jail the night before.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Media has been in a frenzy. A lot has unfolded
in the news.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Okay, so what do you feel bodyguards are experiencing with
all of this?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
As a right now, we in experiencing nothing. What went
on with Diddy went on with Diddy and his crew.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
So far as the bodyguard business of bodyguard, our job
has not been affective. Now what the bodyguard are saying,
tell me his ex bodyguards are saying, you know, that's
a different story. And I'm just gonna go on. I'm
just gonna tell you about me. I add one hundred
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percent on lord. Loyal key is what I've said on nice.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
You know. Uh in twenty three years, I think I'm signed.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Only two nbas and that's because people know that my
word and my loyalty comes forward.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Anything.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
You don't never have to worry about Harvey telling your business.
If I did, I wouldn't be in this industry that long.
So if something happens my uh, let's say my client
does something that I don't like.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
That he's doing what she's doing.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Leave quick, there you go.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Because you signed up for this, and sometimes your job
is not just to protect the artist.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Sometimes you tell to protect the artists from the extent.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Now, this probably only one thing that I probably can't condone.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
That I might. I might tell her if you deal
with some pedophilia, I ain't with that.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Your grandfather.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Now, as far as you freak off saying you freaking
keep on, you sat and say with guys or girls
or whatever, that's your business, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
take that to the grave.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
So the guys that are shooting the beans are making
the bath for people like us because you have you
will against the cold right. You know I signed when
I signed up the first time, you give me a
check on the first time I sign up to good
with you. I'm telling you I'm gonna protect you.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I'm gonna text your image, I'm gonna protect and I'm
I'm gonna I'm a bound.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
That without my word. So I don't have to sign
on NBA. They know they when they have me, you
guys sign Indian with.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Him, He stiled.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
You can give me fifty million dollars to say something
about any one of my clients. I'm gonna turn it down,
I get that check and I look in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I have to be able to be true to myself
and say, I'm cool, how I just bought this house,
and I won't knowing that.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
You did something in front of me, knowing.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I'm not gonna say nothing, and I don't win for
TMZ because they give me.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Fifty right where.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You know, you have to have some boundaries. You know,
I work in corporate spaces for over twenty years. I'm
now a paralegal. You have to be loyal to the
privacy that a CEO and an attorney needs, and they
don't want someone working for them that's going to step
outside that front door and tell all the business that
oftentimes cannot be talked about, could ruin billions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
So yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yours is the loyalty. And then the simple thing.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That you said when you can't handle if that was
honestly what your situation was, speaking myself to a former bodyguard.
If you couldn't handle that, then why didn't you leave?
It's every interview I've seen I'm going, well, why didn't
you leave? You know, you're talking about stories from the
early nineties.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I finding it hard to think that it was.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That bad for you.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
You know, then right because you said them about it.
If you can't handle the heat, they have to kid you.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
That's been the industry. It's a lot of weird, I
can tell y'all.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Okay, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
And that's just not to say, you know, I have
my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I have my opinion when it comes to a black
man in the industry being taken down for if if
they were only taking him down for say, the crucification
in the in social media has been about the baby
y'all and the freak offs. I don't think the feds
are coming for just that. But if that were to
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be the only thing, come on, I've seen white parties.
I've hell, I'm from Texas. Have you seen what happened
when cowboys go on the trail with their horses and
all the women that follow along on the trails and beds.
We want to go take a look at some of
those events. Like I mean, people being freaky is not
a crime. But if there is something going on and
like you said, and it was something that went against
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what you stood for, then you just walk away or
or call that person out and say Hey, I can't
stick with you because X Y Z right.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Yeah, I do believe being.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
But on the other hand, a lot of times we
put ourselves in a situation because or whatever, you know.
And if he is doing something as far as putting
something people's drink to make him boosts.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Out the crime, it's crime. It's a crime as much
as it was a crime for Bill Cosby. And if
you do something like that, you you know, you may
get away with something like that for for a few
but karma's gonna come around. You can't do people like that,
and don't I can't ever victim blame because once a
person is under the influence, they are not who they are,
(26:50):
so you can't say victims at all.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
The individual with the control is the.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
One that would manipulate how a person is going to
behave for the next few hours, So that would always
be the person.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, for you, I don't know how religious you are,
how religious your your your.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Listeners are extremely wearing the Bible belt. No, but no,
I'm more spiritual than anything.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
But grew up.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
It was the devil waited after Jesus Fater for forty days.
He took him upon the highest point and he's said.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
If you bowed out to me, I would give you
all of it, all these lands, everything belong to you.
But what forget is the devil's job. While he was
in heaven, he was the angel of music and entertainment.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
He was the.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Entertained God himself almighty, and he knew that when I entertained.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
When so you guys, a little bit of sound out if.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
What they call the gods that draw.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
So the devil thought what he Manfaca thought of the God,
the creator in a trash for what I was saying,
I'm thinking, he so God, oh God. So he had
the devil down, and well people don't know where he
has the demo down with.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
His angels at.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
So when he did that, he left the angel. I
mean he left the devil with his same power. So
what did the devil do with heaven? He was a
massive entertainment would so now he come to earth and
he had taken over the da work.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Now what's going on now is you can call the
little mina, you.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Can call it whatever you want. What it what they
did was didn't he didn't the same thing the devil did. Hey,
jay z I you bow down to me, I'll forgive.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
You all is right.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
A lot of people, it only happens with a few,
and that is still biblical in a sense that it's
only gonna be a few. And you know, one thing
that I will say about jay Z after following and
watching him for so many years, Jay has always said
he on any given day, he knows it could all
be taken.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
So to know that there's an individual.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That has all of that yet is still fully aware
that at any given day they could take it from him,
it's so Malcolm xent in a sense to me. Because
Malcolm X said it, you know they're gonna put you
at the top pedalstal and tear you right on down right.
So yeah, And for those that are not believers, if
you're not religious, and if you're not religious and you're
(29:49):
not a believer, sorry about that. But I'll say this
to the listeners, if you're not religious and you're not
a believer.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Go watch The Adjustment Bureau.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
That film will carry out the exact same thing that
that the bodyguard just told you. So if you can't
find it from the Bible perspective, go watch that movie.
It'll give you the exact same point that he made.
It's literally gonna happen like that. If you've never seen
the adjustment Bureau, go watch it. Okay, continue, What were
you saying.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
That they give it to him here?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
They get the God confidence down here.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Well it gets to the point where he called his
help over, you know, Kanye with that, I'm Jesus.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
It's just everybody God on him.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
He changed the d because they get the God conflict.
Oh y'all listen to me, So that makes me God.
It's the same thing that ain't nothing different.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
This world we just passing through, right, so you know,
and that when I've been following, like I used to say,
and you know, for people that listened to me alone
time ago that my accountability. I used to say that
Puff and Russell Simmons were mentors of mine, you know,
because they were so the hustle was just so real.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
But I think that there is a point in a.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Time where you do get beyond yourself all what we
see it happen with some of the top CEOs. Have
y'all looked at twenty twenty four, Some of the major
CEOs of major companies are stepping down, and.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
It is because of that God complex.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
God beyond themselves felt untouchable and next thing, you know,
everything comes crashing.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Just look at Red Lobster.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We got a young black kid taking over Red Lobster
at thirty five years old because of a god complex
of giving out free shrimp and not understanding that that
would destroy the financial of a major enterprise. You know.
So too many people get beyond themselves with the riches.
So I'm gonna stand with you on that. So can
I move forward with another question?
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Yep? All right?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
So what mini miss is that the bodyguard really has
a voice in a lot of this So your voice
matters in this industry. We talked before you sign NBA's
you don't Does that cause you to hold back or
is it just what you just said, it's your loyalty.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
I don't need to turn of Indeed, when I when
I find on with you, what I'm saying is what
you do, stay between me and you no matter what.
But if it gets to a point where I don't
like it, I'm gonna come to you first. If you don't,
if you want to keep going, you know, to me
(32:26):
decide if I'm gonna leave it, if.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I'm gonna stay.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So I'm gonna ask you the same question that they asked.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
The current Vice president of the United States is running
for president in twenty twenty four, she was asked are
you armed?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
So I'm gonna ask you are you armed?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
All the time? I'm arming everything a city that I'm
legal to kill it.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
That's how dangerous the job is.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yes, because I hear I have been a shootouts, I
have been as farms. I have been in pitulations where
our life was threatened. So yes, I have. I do
carry a fire on all times.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
And depending on what kind of artist I have at
a threat level, I may have a bigger job.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I might go to an ak. It depends on what
we're doing, where we're doing, and what it is.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Regarding do I've seen you guys in the direct line
of fire when I was on Prime video watching Bodyguards
Secret Lives from the Watchtower. I've seen the training that
you guys have, so you're not not anything to be
fed with. It's what I'm thinking, m H.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
If you're gonna be serious about your job like anybody else,
if you're gonna be a serious teacher, you're gonna get
all the educational degrees and PDD.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
You can get.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
If you want to be a track star. You're gonna
go out there and run, run and run and work
out everything. If you're gonna be a bodyguard, you're gonna
do everything that you can do to make your craft
or to make you a better person for you so you.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Can so you can be elite in your craft. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I do take classes, Yes I do shoot. Yes I
stayed working out, I stay in shape. Yes I met ititated.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Yes I pray. Because you got to have a mind.
You can't just snap on everybody.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
You have to strategically, mentally, systematically get yourself out of
the situations without us to goup. I don't want to
shoot nobody right. I'd rather talk to you out of
the situation. And that's where I'm good at. I can say, hey, bro,
it ain't worth it now. Sometimes that ain't gonna work.
Sometimes I try to practice by fire, and.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Sometimes you guys are working for artists, mood regulation is
what I see that you do well, and I see
discipline that you do well. The particular artists that we've
been talking about over the last year, we've watched him spies.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Out and have lack of mood regulation.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
One thing that my father taught me when it came
to just getting into a street fight, because you have
to do that sometimes in these Texas streets.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But he always said, you're gonna lose if you're angry.
You can't You can't win a fight if you're angry.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
They tell boxers all the time when you you have
to you have to be able to get hit. If
you get hit and lose lose.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Your concentration on your focus, you're gonna lose canal. You've
lost all your discipline. I got you when I come
out here. There's guy that call me nigga bitches and
you're a punk in everything. If I lose it, and
if I put my hands on anybody, I gotta ask
myself first, is a business or a person?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Business is if you put your hands on my client
or threatened my client personally, if you put your hands
on me or custom.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Of me and call me out my leave, I have
to be with you. Keep that.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
You want to call me a pump whatever. Now you
wanna call him, Okay, cool, you're gonna keep on walking.
But the minute you put your.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Hands on me or my yeah, you're gonna get another
another person.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
See, I have a child that works in law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And I raised him on exercising patience, and I raised
him on mood regulation. He gets called every you know
how people are when they're drunk and getting arrested, daymn mad,
you know, so you get called everything in the world.
One thing that my child does well is mood regulation.
Who cares about what those people are saying. You can't
be triggered by words. And I'm watching, you know, that's
just my personal opinion, you know, And I know that
(36:12):
he you know, his people may not like it, but
if they were really just to look at at Diddy
and look at who he was as a person, that
lack of mood regulation and getting mad and going off
in spasm definitely is meeting It's karma for sure for
those of us, those of.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Us who've seen him over the years.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
So any other thoughts that you want to add in
regard to bodyguards sharing, you know you already said where
you stand with that, untold stories, or anything else that
you want to add on what we're talking about in
the media today.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Just mainly to understand the industry. Is that a lot
of judge to give you what the devil Jesus Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
To understand put that understand in your head, so you'll
understand what these people are going through. The only difference
is between these high ranking.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
All these money people and Jesus is Jesus didn't do it.
They took. They took what the devil was offering.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
So if you're gonna take what the devil is offering,
that means that he is now your God.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Right, and that's what's going on now. The only hue
saying you're here. You can say, okay, he he, he
is your God. But the people are under a trans
under a fault.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
God is a false authority. Year I give I give
you that, but you gotta remember, just like some of
you guys are.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Controlled by God, these people are controlled by the devil.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
They chose the deal that the devil gave on and
now they're reaping the bed. The consequence, he's gonna get worse. Yet,
it's gonna be a lot of people is gonna fall
behind this God always committed. Hey, everything that comes and
goes it a little dark gonna come to the life.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Do we have to change him up?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Do we have to you know, change change in what way?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Lyrics?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
What we're talking about, what we're presenting in videos, in lifestyles.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
No, because that's an agenda, and that's another whole podcast.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
The agenda is the fall of us.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
You know, if you ever go back to where rap
we're talking about positive stuff and you know, black power
and in education and change.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
The the white people didn't want that. They purposely went
in and changed. That's why y'all are here from.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
The heavy deeds and the public interv all the mother
and they don't want them no more.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
They purposely want rappers to talk about guns second violence
because that's what we listened to and we're gonna do
that and it's worked. You can see it's working.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Are young generation don't care about nothing but making some money,
killing up, getting the hide right and selling and selling
your body to give money from a guy. I love
making a value, but.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
I hate the messages.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
You know, we've seen the recent Glory Gloriala and we've
seen even Sexy Red say recently, well you know what
I did, what I had to do to get my
family up, But you know at what costs?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Will how far will artists go?
Speaker 5 (39:19):
The dog and then everything to your music if you
to get your money, what do you think they're gonna do?
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Because rights and how that's presented to the young girls.
And how do they know right from mom when they're
listening to that type of music.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
It's hard. But a mama cannot raise no little boy.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Not at all, not by herself.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
She needs a mentor in the community. Yeah, you need
a dad, You need a man tour, Yeah, because.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
You can't tell a little girl wouldn't like.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah. I was that, you know, when my husband was
killed in the war, I was an individual that was
left with having to gather all the men and the
community stood up for me. The support came from me.
The men stood up and said this. He has to
have guidance. And and I wish that for every single
mom you know that has children. You you need discipline,
(40:35):
you need guidance with your voice. It just has to happen.
If the future is you know, yeah, the world know going.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
On right now? Right now I don't want to happen.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
But now the lifting and I hope you guys to
see what's going on. And and I'm even with the
r Kelly situation, that's not a lot of blame on
r Kelly. There's a lot of dog walt.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
That need to be As I've said it from the
beginning with R.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Kelly.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You're not gonna talk to me about R. Kelly until
you come for those parents.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
So if you yeah, yeah, a fourteen year.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Old daughter with R.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Kelly have a secret meaning that any contractual musical whatever with.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Me, that's fat And I'm gonna.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Tell you from truth though some of the parents was
living in a house with Kelly.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I've heard it, and I've heard that directly from a
woman who was on my show and she was temporary
She wrote a book, but they shut her book down,
but she was temporarily married to R.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Kelly as well. So yeah, she told me that on
my show, the exact same thing. So yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Stuff we did, but the more playing they need to
be spread out a little bit, right, There ain't no
where in the world you're gonna have our fourteen fifteen,
fifteen year old daughter ain't no trick.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Wait, so you know what to wrap it up, Let's
say this.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
You know, the industry has to have support, So let's
stop for a moment, and who whose concert should we
go to because it is almost the end of the
year and I need a hot concert.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
So who do we need to be seen? Who who
has the best performance?
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I know you don't get to watch your bodyguard, but
what should we be going to see in this time?
Speaker 5 (42:36):
Okay, I'm not on tour right now. On an actual
it's the Natural Jazz and October Nothing.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Jaze October.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
I heard that was really really good. It's over.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Oh, I heard that was the best. I hate understand.
I hope it becomes a film. I want to see it.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yeah, you know, I think you who are you like?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
But don't don't don't hold what you think they're doing,
because I can tell you something.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Bad about everything you buy anybody, something about the person
you gotta go like.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Whatever I'm playing Kelly, I'm gonna tell you right now,
people can hate me from day one. I'm playing Diddy,
I'm playing r Kelly. I'm playing I'm watching Bill Cosby episodes.
You're not gonna take the art from me. You can't
take because the art came about for a reason and
God gave it to us, and you're not taking that
(43:39):
art away from me.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
And I'm listening to that music.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
The one I'm on really good.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
I was surprised me, but it is the Maxwell tour.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
It's a really good one.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
He said, we are in we are.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Is it at the half half? Or how many how
many more months do we have to catch it?
Speaker 5 (44:02):
Uh, we're going all the way to October twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Oh we have time.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Okay, we have time.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
We got we got here, we got we got.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Louis Mephist Orleans, Vegas.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
When you've worked with.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Some of the greatest of artists and and I am
definitely I am the disciplined fanatic fan.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I go to the concert and I act right.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I don't give y'all hearts, you know, but thank you
so much for coming on and sharing the stories and
anything else. You know, you have a website. Anybody people
you want to shout out or you want to cut
it off from.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
He follow me on epigram at uh Guardian Security Atlanta
Guardian writing the book. The book is gonna be called
U after the curtain closed it for that contact, that's
(45:01):
the way to get a hold.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
And so when they need a mighty bodyguard, you have
them covered the United States and overseas.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
That'll cover over these out of states and let me
know if I can't do it personally. We have a
whole team and a whole company fully ensure Guardian Professional
Security dot Com is our website and you can go
down and check everything out.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Always the best conversation with these shields.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I appreciate you stopping by, friend, and I hope you
guys have a safe weekend.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Phenomenal conversation. Thank you so much for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I'm going to repeat those websites that he says on
my ex on my Twitter, so I will make sure
that I share those out again when I share the
link here for.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
All of you that are listening in and make sure
that you reach out.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
If you have a huge event coming up and you
need some security on top not level security where they're
going to do exactly what is needed to keep the
artist safe, which is very important for your venue, then
please make sure that you reach out via those links.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
And get ready again. As he shared, he has a
book coming up.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Okay, so we're going to be talking about the book
and definitely going to bring him back to talk more
about the book in the future. I wanted to make
sure that we go in there and after the curtain closes,
was the book going to make sure we repeat that,
So write that down, get ready for that after the
curtain closes.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Once you see the promos start for that.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
You already know that was the interview with that bodyguard
that D Shields had on and I want to get
more in debt as to what he's you know, shares
and seen and what that lifestyle is like and everything
that he has experienced in his personal life and industry
life while bodyguarden, as you heard, some of the top
stars in the industry. So we are excited about supporting that.
(46:59):
And you know, we could do big things and big
big things in big numbers when we all do support,
So share, share, share, so that we can get this out.
So when that book comes out, you guys are making
sure that you are a part of making that book
become the top bestseller. All right, thanks so much for
(47:20):
stopping by. I always appreciate when you love is do
that for me, Continue to support the show and I'll
be back again if it's not on what D Says
the podcast. You know, we are already breaking down some
of the hottest lyrics that are out right now and
some of the past lyrics as well, so you can
check me out on lyrics breakdown. And if you're following
me on YouTube, you know I am on my Manjaro
(47:43):
to Zeppeetide journey and I am sharing with you the
results for everything that's happening up until we get to
the year mark or maybe beyond, and sharing with you
everything that's coming along with that. So thanks so much
for supporting the show, and I'll see you guys again
next time.
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