July 4, 2024 • 56 mins
Air Date - 04 July 2024
Following the recent eclipse astrologers say we can expect a tsunami of awakening. While this can only be a good thing for humanity, awakening can also be a somewhat destabilizing or challenging process for those who have no idea who to trust or where to go for the best tools and information to guide them on their journey of self-discovery.
One person who has had the prescience to address this rapidly growing need for a safe space that offers a selection of tools, techniques, modalities, processes, interviews, and information for the spiritually hungry seeker is one of America’s most celebrated new thought spiritual teachers and inspirational public speakers—the Rev. Dr. Iyanla Vanzant.
An internationally best-selling author and much-loved host and executive producer of the critically acclaimed award-winning TV series “Iyanla Fix My Life,” Iyanla Vanzant joins Sandie this week to share her latest challenge to awaken one million people and to talk about a subject that has now become a stand-alone program helping men understand and gain insights and solutions to depression and anxiety based on the actor Courtney B. Vance’s seminal book, The Invisible Ache: Black Men Identifying Their Pain and Reclaiming Their Power. |
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Following the recent eclipse astrologers say we can expect a tsunami of awakening. While this can only be a good thing for humanity, awakening can also be a somewhat destabilizing or challenging process for those who have no idea who to trust or where to go for the best tools and information to guide them on their journey of self-discovery.
One person who has had the prescience to address this rapidly growing need for a safe space that offers a selection of tools, techniques, modalities, processes, interviews, and information for the spiritually hungry seeker is one of America’s most celebrated new thought spiritual teachers and inspirational public speakers—the Rev. Dr. Iyanla Vanzant.
An internationally best-selling author and much-loved host and executive producer of the critically acclaimed award-winning TV series “Iyanla Fix My Life,” Iyanla Vanzant joins Sandie this week to share her latest challenge to awaken one million people and to talk about a subject that has now become a stand-alone program helping men understand and gain insights and solutions to depression and anxiety based on the actor Courtney B. Vance’s seminal book, The Invisible Ache: Black Men Identifying Their Pain and Reclaiming Their Power. |
http://www.awakenonemillion.com | http://www.iyanla.com
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Welcome to what is going on forNew Thought from the Edge of Arm.
Each week on home Time's flagship radioshow, veteran broadcaster, author, and
media consultant Sandy Sedgeber conducts thought provokinginterviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians,
scientists, speakers, and filmmakers whoare working at the point where spirituality
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and science meet consciousness at the veryedge of arm. Here is your host,
Sandy Sedgeber. Hello. According toastrologers, the magnificent eclipse we experienced
in April is going to release atsunami of awakening. While this can only
be a good thing for humanity,we can't ignore the fact that awakening can
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also be a somewhat destabilizing and challengingprocess for those who have no idea who
to trust or where to go forthe best tools and information to guide them
on their journeys of self discovery.One person who's had the prescience to address
this rapidly growing need for a safespace that offers a selection of the best
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tools, techniques, modalities, processes, interviews and information for the spiritually hungry
seekers is one of America's most celebratedNew thought spiritual teachers and inspirational public speakers.
The Reverend Doctor e Yandler Van Sant, an internationally best selling author and
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much loved host and executive producer ofthe critically acclaimed, award winning series E
Yander Fixed My Life on Oprah Winfrey'sown network. Dr e Yandler Van Sant
joins me now to share the excitingnews about her latest challenge to awaken one
million people. Young event said,welcome, Thank you, How are you?
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My Beloved's so good to be withyou always, Thank you, you
too, you too, Awakening onemillion. You certainly don't do things by
halves, do you know? Aimhigh Yeah, I'm awakening one million.
You know it was really divine guidance. I mean I didn't wake up over
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my coffee one morning and just say, oh, let me go wake up
one hundred, you know, amillion people. It was through prayer and
meditation that I got that as mydirective for this next season of life,
Awaken one million. You know whenthese directives come, certainly you know the
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few times they've come for me,it's a kind of no way. You
look at the picture and you thinkimpossible. I don't want to undertake that.
How did you feel well? Iwas a little more severe than you.
I said, I'm not doing that. I am not doing that.
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And then when it comes by thethird time, I've learned how to be
obedient, because if you're not obedient, then you get to sacrifice some other
part of your life. But whenI saddened when I thought about it,
I mean, what a divine opportunityto participate in the awakening, the self
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acceptance, the self awareness, thecelebration the love of one million people and
getting them to participate in their ownprocess of evolution and healing and growth.
It's really exciting. It is exciting, and it's very interesting too. And
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I don't think actually that you're goingto have much trouble with a midian because
we're watching so many people that wenever thought, you know, would even
use words like energy or spiritual ontheir doing. So they are because the
again, as you said in youropening, the eclipse, I've been telling
my students, it's a factory reset. You know, we have gone back
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to factory settings, and for manyof us that means that we have to
unlearn some things. But we havethe inspiration, the drive to learn some
new things that will replace the thingsthat we're letting go of and just really
awaken to a new way of beingand doing and having. And those who
have been walking this path for along time, organizing things like this particular
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network, you know, they've beengoing for over a decade. Now suddenly
I think that people will find theseresources you know that are going to help
them. Yeah, so the studentis ready, the teacher appears. But
when the student is really ready,the teacher disappears and the student goes on
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the search. It becomes their ownteacher. Which is the best thing,
isn't it. So what are youoffering, Well, something for everybody.
You know, when we talk aboutawakening one million, everybody is in a
different place. And what are thetools, What are the resources, what
are the books? Who are theteachers that we can introduce and celebrate and
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support at every level? So theprocess of awakening one million, we're offering
it as a year long program,a year long process that hopefully will take
you into the next five, ten, twenty years of your life. But
wherever you are on your spiritual path, your path of healing, growth,
self discovery, we have something foryou. We've got four levels. So
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there's the awaken, there's the peoplewho they didn't know a spirit if it
bit them on the foot, whatis that? You know, We've got
that basic level for people who arelooking to do things like establish a daily
spiritual practice that's easick or if youwant to know more about spirituality, what's
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the first book to read? Whois a good teacher to go to?
So at the awaken or the basiclevel, we have resources for people,
practices, processes, prayers. I'veeven done some recordings, so if you
like my voice, I can guideyou through the basics. The basics.
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Then the next level would be awakening. So those are people who've done some
work, but now they're ready togo to the next level. They want
to develop the discipline, they wantto trust Sandy. Most people shy away
from spirituality because they don't trust themselvesand they don't know that there's a higher
force, a higher mind of presencethat they can trust. That's at the
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awakened level. Awakening level. Thenthe awakened level, those are for the
people who've done some work, whohave done their work and they really want
to now dig in and make thework not something separate from the rest of
their lives. You know, peoplecan be spiritual over here and a corporate
lound dog over here. You know, they want to really make it more
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integrated and more integrated process. Theywant to be awakened. And then you've
got those awoke people, the onewho've done the work, and now we
want to support them in teaching,training, sharing. So many people walk
around with a wealth of knowledge andthey don't know how to share it.
So there's something for everybody, youknow. I remember once talking to somebody
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who had gone on a you know, two decade long journey India, studying
with gurus, et cetera. Andat the end of it, he said,
you know, yes he felt hehad found enlightenment, but then he
knew that you couldn't go and sitin a cave on his own and just
you know base, you know,based in that. He had to go
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out into the world and do somethingwith it. And I think that's that's
a directive that we all have.Yes, when you know it, you've
got to share it. And sometimesthe directive or the sharing it isn't just
about, you know, write abook, open a a retreat center.
Sometimes it's just in how you liveyour life every day and how you approach
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people every day, how you speakto people, how you deal with people
so that you are a demonstration andthey see you and they just want some
of what you have. So maybeyou can take them to lunch, maybe
you start a study group, Maybeyou go into you know, an elder
home or hospitals. It doesn't haveto be something big that gets you a
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million followers on social media. It'sjust how do I integrate practice and demonstrate
what I know and who I amin a way that serves and supports other
people? Yeah? Yeah, Areyou collaborating with other spiritual teachers? Everybody?
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Anybody? Everybody? Yes, becauseyou know I don't. I don't
I don't have it all, andI'm not for everybody. But there are
other teachers who and to know abouteverything so that we can bring things together.
There are spiritual people in politics,there's spiritual people in economics. There's
spiritual people in religion. There's spiritualpeople in education, health. You know,
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I'm looking at my relationship with God, source creators, something greater than
me, my relationship with myself,my relationship with others, and my relationship
with the world. How do Iawaken and celebrate and serve and grow and
heal in all four of those areas, God, self, others, the
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world, and there are teachers whoare masterful in all of their areas.
Some people will vibrate toward books.Others will vibrate toward music. Others will
vibrate toward you know, physical activity, be it yoga or exercise. Some
are looking for nutrition, you know, when you wake up, when you
when you're loving yourself in a differentway, you want to eat a certain
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way and you want to know whatthat is, you know. So yeah,
I'm really excited about other teachers,other perspectives. That's exciting. How
do you see your role in this? I mean, will you be presenting,
will you be conducting interviews? Willyou just be managing? I'm the
midwife. I'm the midwife. Icome, I coach, I remind you
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to breathe. You know, I'mthere, But i'm there. I'm not
there to have the baby. I'mthere to support the birth of the baby.
And the baby is the process.The baby is the program. So
I'll be there, but I'm thereto This isn't enormous undertaking. I mean,
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you know, having built websites andcreated things myself online, I know
exactly how much work is involved andhow big it's going to be. How
does that not don't you to me? I am blessed with an incredible team.
I have an incredible team, andif I have the vision, they
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find the way to execute it.And that's those divine relationships and how do
you create them. You know,so many of us in the world today
who are waking up. There arethings that we want to do, and
we think we have to do itall. We think we have to do
it all. Like I said,I'm the midwife. I'm not having the
baby. I don't have to havea pain. I don't have to suck
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ice chips. I'm there to coachyou through it. So I have an
incredible team. I've got beautiful itpeople. I've got I have a team
of people and all they do ispray. That's all they do. Yeah,
so it gets done little by little, you know, the pieces come
together. But as the midwife,I've got to know we're in labor,
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we're birthing, and the goal isto get the baby here alive. So
if I was somebody who had justwoken up and we'll discuss that word later,
and I came to your website,I could what broils around it,
have a look at everything. There'sa level that's completely free. And then
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if I want to engage, thenwe start looking at you know, cherry
picking the things that interest me.Well, you t in pathways, yes,
you take for example, one ofthe things everybody can do if they
don't do anything else, is theycan come to the website and you're going
to be asked to pick a principle. You pick a letter, and it's
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going to give you a universal principleand a definition. Maybe all you want
to do is learn how to incorporatethat principle into your life, whether it's
trust or truth, or forgiveness ornon judgment, or acceptance or celebration or
victory, whatever it is. Everybodycan get that. Then at the bate,
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the beauty of waking up is selfawareness. Where are you in your
personal growth, development, healing learning? Where are you? We're not going
to tell you that, but tobe able to look at the various levels
and see, okay, this iswhere I am. I'm interested in that.
Maybe you want to do whether you'reat level two three, whether you're
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awake, awakening or awakened, maybeyou want to do the twelve steps we've
taken the twelve steps that are ofalcoholics anonymous fame, and we've broken that
transcribe them into everyday principles, principlesfor everyday living. Are you on step
one, step four, step nine, step ten, and how do you
apply that? Maybe you want towork one step a week or one step
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a month. Twelve steps will getyou through a year. So it all
depends on where you are and howyou want to approach your living. But
everything will be laid out is laidout. You can go there and see
and you get to choose because choiceis power. I don't want to tell
you choose it. Yeah, Andso then if they graduate through one year,
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let's say they've done their twelve stepsin one year, they then have
the opportunity to go on to otherlevels and go deeper and deeper. Well,
you can do any level you wantat any time. There are workshops,
there are classes, some are live, some are pre recorded that you
can do self study over the courseof six weeks, eight week, twelve
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weeks. There's one program called fromthe ground Up for people who know that
their foundation physical, mental, emotional, spiritual is not solid. That's a
six week program self directed. Yougo in that's at the awake ging level.
You go in and you will spenda week building your physical foundation,
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your money, your relationship, yourhome, your career. You'd spend a
week doing your mental foundation. Whatare your thoughts? But how are you
thinking? What do you need todo to re program your mind? Your
emotional foundation. What are some thingsthat you're still holding the need to be
cleansed and healed? What is yourspiritual foundation? That's a self directed study.
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You can do that at any levelbecause all levels are open to everyone.
Some programs and processes have a priceothers. Don't you get to choose
the words awake, awakening, awakened, Yes, awoken. I mean these
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words have become so loaded recently andyou know, so tarnished, and it's
so sad. You know, asa journalist, words are important to me.
And when I watch words being fostardizedand turned into you know, something
awful when they're not how you know, have you had any kickback from that?
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Not really, because I have aclear intention, and we have a
definition of our intention for each ofthose words and the definition of that word.
And you know, Sandy, oneof the things that we have to
heal ourselves up is allowing other peopleto tell us what to think. You
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know, there's a very powerful statementthat those who control the words and images
control the minds of the people,and people who control the words, who
control the images are telling us thata woke is bad, that woke is
bad, that awakening and you know, the woke community. And we don't
have to we don't have to embracethat. We can restructure it, which
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we have done. So I didn'thave to invent a word. I'm not
going to line up with the cultureof the of the society. This is
what it is. If you ifyou can line up with it, fine,
and if you can't, that's finetoo. Mm hmm. You have
something that you call creating a livingvision. Tell me what that is about?
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Yeah, oh, well for people. And we've got a little glitch
going on. Is it my end, Chris? I don't know if it's
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my end or your end, butthere's a little glitch that is am I
freezing at your end? Okay?Yeah you froze. I was in a
way that I freeze. Yeah,you froze at my end. Yeah.
Anyway, just keep talking and seewhat happens. So I miss what you
said. So if you could juststart that again about creating the living vision.
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Okay, you know, one ofthe most powerful tools of self realization
that we have is our vision.You know, just think about it.
You walk around in life and whatyou see really determines what you do and
what you have. I mean,for me as a woman, it's my
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vision when I go shopping. Thattells me what I see and what I
get and what I do. Butfrom a personal growth a spiritual perspective,
vision is so important. And Ialways tell my students the vision will pull
you forward. If you have avision, if you can see it,
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it will pull you forward. Youwill know what to do. So at
the a woke level, we dosomething called a living vision. Now,
this means you've got a solid spiritualfoundation. It means that you've got a
solid spiritual practice. And what youwant to do is bring your vision to
life. Now that's a program thatI do, and I walk people through,
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step by step by step, howto take that idea, how to
take that vision and turn it intoa live, living entity, calling in
the resources, not doing doing doingdoing doing, but calling in the resources
and creating the divine relationships and makingthat vision a part of who you are
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and making who you are a partof that vision. It is a powerful
process. It's a four month process, and you're going to work because if
you have a vision, you've gotto birth in So I teach other people
how to midwife their vision into reality. You've you know, we've spoken before
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about some of your other books,which have shared some of the grueling circumstances
of your early life. At whatpoint did you understand that you had the
power to change your life last Tuesday? No, because every time I think
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my power's pumping, something else comesup. You know, I do.
I tell you, Sandy, itreally is a function of my spiritual practice
and really just being in touch withthe highest, grandest part of me as
a human being. I am crazyas hell. But at what point did
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you did you, you know,kind of understand the whole spirituality thing.
I don't know if there was apoint, as much as there was followed
dots. You do it and itworks, You do it and it gets
better, you do it and youhave more to do. You step into
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it and it unfolds. So Idon't know if there was one particular point
or a combination a collection of dotsand points and experiences when you hear something
and you are obedient to what youhear and it blesses somebody else, it
manifests in your life. I meanit's been thirty I've had my school inter
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Vision's Institute now for thirty six years, and I remember getting that instruction you're
gonna start at school and you're gonnateach people what you've learned, and I'm
like, no, I'm not doingthat. And it took me three years
to write the curriculum and the peoplewho showed up to sit with me,
and the people who brought their ownskills, and how we develop the faculty,
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And when we open the school thefirst year and one hundred and seven
people showed up to do a twoyear in person program, I was like,
oh my god, this is working. So it's really being having the
vision, being able to see it, and then being obedient to the guidance
ide I've felt. And some thingsdidn't work out, some things didn't work
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out, but I was looking forthe lesson as opposed to being afraid or
frightened because this didn't turn okay,Well what happened here? What did you
do? Oh? You didn't dothat remember you didn't do or you did
this, Who told you to dothat? Why did you do that?
So it's really about being self awareagain, accepting your missteps, accepting whatever
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shows up without judging in as bador wrong. I have to say that
part of my foundation, and thesolid part of my foundation, has been
a course of miracles. Mastering thoselessons has saved my life many many days.
When did you come across that?Nineteen seventy eight. Nineteen seventy eight,
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I saw a little ad in thecommunity paper and I was in crisis.
My life was Oh my goodness,I can't even tell you. It
was the bottom of the trash can. And this little ad in the community
paper, one of the little spiritualpapers you get in the bookstore. It
said, are you ready for amiracle? Oh? Hell yeah, That's
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the only thing that's gonna save meis a miracle, you know. So
I went to the reading. Iwas living in Philadelphia at the time,
and I got all dressed up andI went to the little meeting at the
address on the and I walked inthe room and it must have been about
maybe eight or nine middle aged whitepeople, and they looked at me,
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and I looked at them and IHey, at that point, I didn't
care who was in the room.I needed a miracle. And it was
a study group for the course ofmiracles led by a beautiful, beautiful man.
His name was Dan. And Iwent to that group. Oh my
god, almost two years and studieda course in miracles. Turned my life
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around seventy eight. Well, Ithink that you're the right person to be
talking to people, teaching you know, how to envision your life, create
you know, the living vision thatyou want, because so many people aren't
haven't lived it, but you've reallylived it. Yes, well, you
know they have lived it, Sandy, because we each get what we need
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in order to learn, in orderto heal, in order to grow.
But because they weren't awoke or awakened, they weren't paying attention. That's it.
Everybody has received exactly what they need, you know. Well, we
were talking the other day. Isaid to you, you know, I
lost both of my daughters, thefirst one twenty years ago, and it
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was I was a hot mess,ready to take my life, ready to
throw in everything. She was mydearest, dearest friend, and I just
didn't know how I was going tobreathe without her. So twenty years later,
when I lost my second daughter,before I went into the grief and
the horror, the devastation of that, I remembered what I did the first
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time. I remembered what worked.I remember what didn't work. I remember
it didn't work for me to denywhat I was feeling. It didn't work
for me to try to be strongfor everybody else. It didn't work for
me to try to make all thearrangements and it didn't work. That didn't
work. I had to look atwhat worked and what didn't work. So
when I lost my second daughter,I left pe will help me. I
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sat looking drooling on the side ofthe bed and let them do everything.
I didn't have to do it becauseit was my daughter. So I say
that because I want people to understandif you've had an illness, if you've
been divorced, if you've failed outof business, if you've lost all your
money, those are not things thathappen to you. They're things that happen
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for you, and you know howto get through it. And what you
learn going through that, how canyou apply it to what you're going through?
Now? That's self awareness. Wewant to wake up to that.
We want to wake up to theblessing in every single unpreferred experience. I
don't call them challenges and issues anymore. They're unpreferred. I prefer not to
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be divorced. But since I am, that's a good way of looking at
it. That really is a goodway of looking at it. And I
think you're are. And it's aninteresting thing because you know, grief is
one of those things that can overtakepeople very easily. And you know,
it doesn't matter how many times you'veexperienced it each time, but you're offering
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people a new way to look atit. Well, you know, it's
understanding the distinction between grief and mourning. Grief is a natural, organic process
that your soul, your psyche willmove through. Where we get stuck,
Sandy is in the mourning. Letme make the distinction. Grief is a
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natural, psychological, emotional, spiritualresponse to loss. It could be the
loss of a pet, a job, a person, a home, you
know, an object that you're goingto grieve that. Mourning is a reaction
to a loss that is grounded inremorse or regret. Mourning is I should
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have done this, Why didn't Ido that. How come I didn't know,
why didn't they do this? Whydidn't they do that? Only if
that's mourning, you're gonna get stuckin mourning. But if you grieve,
if you stay in touch with yourfeelings, admit your anger, admit your
helplessness, your hopelessness, admit thatand allow it to unfold. As a
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mom who who lost the child,one of the things that I had to
learn was that it was okay forme to be okay even though she was
gone. I didn't know that.I didn't know it was okay for me
to be okay. I thought Ihad to mourn forever, mourn, not
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regret, I mean, not grieve, but mourn. And I had to
learn the first day, when Iwas feeling happy, I was like,
oh, wait a minute, Iwas a bad mother. I should be
weeping and crying. Well, no, not. Five years later, you
can feel okay. So I thinkmany people react to the lass with regret
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or remorse and don't process through theanger, the helplessness, the hopelessness.
They get stuck and they get stuckin mourning not grieving. That's a really
important distinction. It's a really valuablepiece of information. And you should write
a book about that. You wantme to write a book about everything.
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Well, you've got a lot ofwisdom. But we're going to take a
short break. Now. You're listeningto What is going On? And my
guest today is bestselling author, internationallybestselling author and much love to host and
executive producer of the critically acclaimed,award winning series Eender Fix My Life,
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about IVTV, Oh IVTV. Youknow, having worked in television, I
just recognize how sometimes when people whoare not there every day but have a
say in what goes on every day, can limit you can limit your expression.
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And trust me, I was atthe Oprah Winfrey Network. I really
had free brain to do whatever cameacross my heart. But there were also
the advertisers, so they didn't likea particular topic, or if they didn't
like it was the way it wasbeing presented, the network had to acquiesce
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to that. So I decided,if I'm going back on television, back
in front of a camera, Idon't want. I want it to be
no holds barred. So I founda beautiful streaming network founded by Mark Cuban,
who's one of the hosts on SharkTank. And he started a streaming
platform and he invited me to bea part of that platfor for the fireside
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platform. So I started IVTV,Young levan Zant TV, inter Visions TV,
whatever your IV is, your intravenousvitamins. And this is where I
talk to authors and I talk toother teachers and we provide five seven days
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of programming. We're building it upso we have other hosts. We start
every day with every Day I Pray, where we guide people through a twelve
to fifteen minute affirmative prayer process justto start the day. And then in
the evenings we have we have asound bath one day, we have a
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shaman who does the awakening heart,we have a medium who gives people guidance
right on IVTV. So it's reallyan opportunity to do no holds barred broadcasting.
Were no advertisers to tell us whatwe can do, and we can't
get sued in. We can dowhatever feels right in the moment, and
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we don't have to do it forever, and we don't do it for ratings.
We do it for service. Theservice. Yeah yeah, yeah.
And you also have a book club, and you recently had a course that
got my attention because it was aproject that was launched for men, and
I think men are very underserved inour community. And you know that book,
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The Invisible Ake, Black Men identifyingtheir pain and Reclaiming their power.
I mean, brilliant title, brilliantbook, brilliant topic. But it's not
just black men, it's all men. Yeah. We got the author,
Courtney B. Vance, who's anacclaimed actor here in the US and husband
to our beloved Angela Bassett. Hewrote the book because at the height of
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his career, he was in anaward winning play on Broadway and he was
suffering from chronic, almost debilitating depressionwhere he would sit for hours on the
edge of the bed and they prophim up and pump him out in the
world and he'd go do his performance, and then you go back to the
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edge of the bed. And hewrote this book and it was an invisible
ache, something he couldn't name,couldn't see, couldn't touch, but it
was always there. He always feltit. And so many men have that
invisible ache of all races. Thisbook is about a black man and dedicated
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to black men, but as wedo the book club, we know that
it's the same thing. Because menaren't taught, They just aren't taught how
to first of all, have afeeling, second of all, identify the
feeling, and then talk about thefeeling and society the way men and boys
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are thrown out in the world.They're expected to be silent and to be
strong and to be whatever. Andat the root of Courtney's issue was his
father's suicide and his father suicide committedsuicide because he went through his whole life,
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married, children, everything, believingthat his mother didn't want him.
His mother didn't want him, andit became overwhelming and he reacted and took
his own life. Many many yearslater, Courtney had a godson that he
raised and at twenty three years old, that godsn took his own life and
that triggered Courtney into a depression andhelped him to identify his own age,
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which sent him to therapy, whichsent him to a radical, radical approach
to self care for men. Womenwill do self care. We'll take a
bath, we'll go to the spa, we'll do our nails, our hair.
You know our men doing that?Do they know they have time?
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But more important, Sandy, dothey know they have permission? Nobody is
going to think them wrong or bador the kryptonite for men inadequate, if
they have a feeling, if theyhave a day off, if they are
confused, if they have a fear, if they have a whatever. So
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the Invisible Ache virtue. It wasa virtual or book club for men.
Men came together every week for fiveconsecutive weeks and walk through the invisible Ache.
I facilitated, but every week Ihad a different man with me.
I had a coach, I hada minister, I had an educator,
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I had a psychologist. And whowas the other person, I can't remember
the other person. But every weekand basically what I did, I did
the prayer work, I did thebreath work, and then as a woman,
I shot there, sat there withmy mouth shut and just let them
have at it. And there weremen who spoke about things they said they
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had never spoken about from their childhood. Men who didn't know that it was
okay to acknowledge that they had beensexually abused, physically abused. Men who
felt lonely, men who felt sad, men who felt confused. But they
got up every day and they wentto work, you know, and they
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did. Men who knew how todo, but didn't know how to be
so I think we'll do it againat some point, because that is an
incredible book that opened men up toknow it is okay you have permission not
to know, to be afraid,to be confused, and there are hundreds
of thousands of other men on thatsame step with you. Yeah, I
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think, And this is a topicthat I've delved into in the past because
you know, I once wrote abook which was about understanding the opposite sex,
you know, for men and forwomen. And the research that I
did on men showed exactly this.And I think since you know, since
we stopped our natural way of livingand rights of passage, the rights of
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passage I think were so important formen, we still have them. Women
still have them, but the mendon't. And that's criminal because their identity,
you know, it takes well.They end up thinking, as you
said, that they've got to bestrong, they've got to be you know,
quiet, They can't admit to anything, and we're taking away so much
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from them. We're completely emasculating themin a way, so they can't you
know, have the masculine power thatwe want to see, and they can't
be our leaders. And that's whatwe so sorely need right now that masculine
leadership that's a unique balance of headand heart, of intellect and emotion,
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of physicality and spirituality, a newway of men to be, so that
there's a new way that they do, so that we can all have differently.
You know, it's not the grabthe woman by a head drag her
up anymore. But nobody's taught themthe new way. And it's incumbent upon
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us as mothers, as wives,as daughters, as sisters, as friends
to give our men permission and tosupport that and taking care of themselves in
a new way and learning a newway of being. And that means that
we have to lay down some ofour expectations, you know, because and
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I say this to men time,and they laugh at me. I say,
ninety nine percent of the time,when she's angry and fussing at you,
it's not that she's mad. She'safraid. Yes, she's afraid either
that you're not going to be thereor you can't be there, and then
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she's not going to know what todo. So don't think that she's angry.
Know that she's afraid, and youcan help navigate that fear in the
way you be with her and theway you speak with her. So I
think it's so important right now asa woman. I don't want to dismiss
men, demean men, dishonor men, disrespect men, and I don't want
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to keep running ahead of them.I think it's women, you know,
we're running ahead in the poor manand trying to catch up. Yeah,
and that we've got to shift that. So in addition to awakening one million
in this year, my directive isto turn my tent toward men. And
I'm grateful they trust me because Idon't want anything from you. I don't
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want anything from you, and whereveryou are, I'm going to meet you
there and I'm not going to dishonoryour dignity. I'm not going to do
that. And I've demonstrated that.So men really do trust me, Black
men and white men, all kindof men, and women trust me with
their husbands. It's interesting because therehave been several, you know, kind
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of surges of attempts to create theseplatforms that have never really stuck. You
know, there's been a bit ofinterest iron John back in the eighties,
John Blir, you know, variousdifferent men's groups that were started but they've
never quite got the traction that theyneeded. And I think now with the
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new energy, I think that there'san opportunity. Yeah. Well, you
know when men come together, theyare they come together usually to compete,
you know, and they've got toprove their strength, and they've got to
prove their whatever. And they asa Yamla, the great mother, the
teacher, they're coming to me tolearn. So I'm not gonna beat you
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up for what you don't know andcan't do. I'm going to support you,
teach you, facilitate you, andthen you do whatever you do with
it. So I think that themcoming, and as a woman, I'm
coming with heart. It's my heartthat is attracting them, not my desire
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for anything. I don't want anything, you know. I guess that's because
I'm a great grandmother now, SoI'm coming from a whole nother perspective.
And again I don't take it lightlyand I don't deny men trust me.
They trust me, and that isan honor and it's a privilege, and
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I'm very mindful never ever to abusethat. Now that doesn't mean I'm gonna
let you get away with crazy,but I'm not going to abuse you when
you show up and women send metheir husbands and their sons. He had
taken. So what was the whatkind of responses did you get from the
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men that came, whether they werepushed by their wants to attain or whether
they chose to do so themselves.I mean slow, It was very slow.
But when the ones who came,they went and got the other ones.
Yeah, they went and got theother one. See, as women,
we will just show up. Ohthat sounds good, let me do
that, put the credit card downor do whatever you do it. But
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men they're like hmm. The thingthat I love about men is once they're
in their inn. Yes, oncethey're in there in I think about myself.
I've joined the gym. Fifty sixstarts never showed up whenever they have
a special I joined the gym,but I don't go. But a guy
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will join the gym and he'll go, he'll go, he'll go. So
what happened was the ones who showedup. It was very slow, very
small, but every week it grewbecause once they got there and realized a
they were safe, e they wererespected, they weren't challenged, they weren't
judged and they could hear each other. The next week there would be more
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and more and more. So itwas really really abuse and they didn't want
to end. So I said,well, y'all don't have to end,
but I won't be here every week. Go over to Google and do something.
Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah. AndI think the hardest, you know,
the biggest heard a is for themto give themselves permission and to admit
this may be good for me.Yeah. Yeah, and you know how
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they show up, Yeah, yeah, prove it to me, right,
yeah? Yeah. So, what'sI mean. We've talked about Awaken one
million, and we've talked about thisreally really important critical subject. What is
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your take on where society is goingfrom here? Because you know, everybody
I speak to is aware that theold system's crumbling and that we need a
new way, and yet the peoplein power are continuing, absolutely oblivious on
the same track. Yeah. Well, here's what I know. Here's what
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I know. This doesn't have tobe true for anybody else. What we're
seeing in the world among our leadersin government and politics and just in the
world, what we're seeing in theworld is a function of who we are.
They're showing us who we are They'reshowing us our innermals, thoughts,
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and feelings. They're showing us oursecret with behaviors. They're showing us because
at all times, in all situations, under all circumstances, there's nobody in
the room but me. Everything Isee is an aspect of me, and
how I deal with it, howI address it, how I interact with
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it, determines my level of awakeningand my outcome. So people, how
unfortunately, are looking out in theworld and getting caught up in what the
people are doing, as opposed tosay, and oh my god, how
do I do that? How doI lie? How do I bully?
How do I not tell the wholetruth? How do I make everything about
me? How do I just denythe truth? How do I You know,
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That's what people are doing, andthey're getting caught up in those personalities.
But we're getting to a critical pointthat solely eclips that, you know,
I mean, I don't want toget into astrology, but what's happening
in the world, what's being awakenedin our genie means simply by virtue of
the environmental shift. Oh you,oh, you're gonna get clear, that
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is you boo. It is you. Everything you see is you, and
you can tell it you if itupsets you, if it angers you,
if it triggers you me Like Itold you the other day, I'm under
the bed with my popcorn looking ooh, look at that look. And I
also say, okay, I'm soglad I heal that. I'm so glad
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I'm not there. I'm so gladI'm better. And then when I see
things that trigger up something, I'mlike, okay, let me go in
and clean that up so that whenI see it out here, I don't
have to react to it. Idon't have to fight it. I don't
have to deny it. I justhave to call it what it is.
That is a lie, that isunkind, unloving. You know, recently
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here in the US we lost ohJa Simpson died and you know, he
was at once a beloved football playerand then was accused of a tragic crime.
And when the day he died,public people with a huge platform said
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things like good writtens. A newspaperprinted on the cover of the newspaper his
picture real killer Dead. I waslike, oh my god, we have
really sunk into a pit of depravity. Never mind his children, his grandchildren.
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But this was the big thing forme. When I leave this body,
I don't know where I'm going,but I'm sure when I get there,
nobody's going to ask me, whatdid you think about OJ Simpson?
You do it you think you did, And let me worry about myself and
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everything that I do. Let mebe kind and loving. What if you
passed on and somebody would upset withyou were to put on social media,
good riddance for your children, yourmother, your grandchildren to see that's not
about OJ Sandy. No, that'sabout that person's heart, and that poison
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in their heart is going to infectevery single area of their life. So,
like I said, I'm under thebed with my popcorn watching Oh look
at that. It would be interestingto, you know, come back in
three or four years and have alook at how things have changed, because
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they are changing. They have tochange. They have to. Yeah,
So tell our viewers where they canfind iv TV, where they can find
Awaken one million. Well, let'sdo Awakening one million, because I'm so
excited about that. Eyamla dot com. I y A N l A.
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You may not be able to sayit, but you can spell it.
I why A N l a yamladot com. You'll find everything about Awakening
one million and for the I vt V Fireside one word Fireside. You
go there and you'll see me,You'll see Steve Harvey, you'll see doctor
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Phil, You'll see just an incrediblearray of teachers who are sharing on this
platform. So what else are youdoing retiring? I don't see anything.
No, And and you know,I have the divine blessing of raising my
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six year old great grandson. Youknow, it's it's cultural, it's a
blessing. He's six, and sohe keeps me on my toes. You
know, that's why it's seventy.I can still wear a ponytail because I'm
raising a six year old and youhave the opportunity it is now who doesn't
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have to grow up in the sameway that others have not in the lease.
And I'm very clear that's why he'swith me. I mean, because
this little boy at six, hasbeen through a lot and he ended up
on my doorstep by accident. Okay, by accident. My daughter, his
grandmother had COVID and I went toget him so that she could recover.
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And when I got him, Iwas like, oh my God, he's
an impath. He is brilliant.He's probably about eight thousand years old in
that little body, and he doesn'tknow how to manage that, and neither
do his parents. So you know, through subversive means and methods, he's
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ended up in my home and nowhe plays Tibetan singing bowls, and he
knows how to meditate, and heknows how to breathe, and he knows
the twenty third som and he knowsfourteen lessons out of a course in miracles.
Okay, I would say you're doinga really good job there. Yeah.
End events, It's always a pleasureto talk with you. Thank you
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so much for joining us today.Thank you for having me, and thank
you to your incredible audience, andthank you for what you bring to them.
So I'm looking forward to seeing youand them in the future as we
awaken up absolutely or second that soAwakening one million. That's the name of
the new website, Portal Hub,Magic Cabe, whatever you want to call
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it, but it is definitely worthchecking out. For more information about Illender's
books, podcast, audios, events, visit her website, yender dot com.
That's it for this week. I'mSandy Sedgebier, thank you for joining
me today. I look forward tobeing back with you at the same time
next week. Until then, it'sgoodbye for me and thank you Yendler. Thank you
Welcome to what is going on forNew Thought from the Edge of Arm.
Each week on home Time's flagship radioshow, veteran broadcaster, author, and
media consultant Sandy Sedgeber conducts thought provokinginterviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians,
scientists, speakers, and filmmakers whoare working at the point where spirituality
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and science meet consciousness at the veryedge of arm. Here is your host,
Sandy Sedgeber. Hello. According toastrologers, the magnificent eclipse we experienced
in April is going to release atsunami of awakening. While this can only
be a good thing for humanity,we can't ignore the fact that awakening can
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also be a somewhat destabilizing and challengingprocess for those who have no idea who
to trust or where to go forthe best tools and information to guide them
on their journeys of self discovery.One person who's had the prescience to address
this rapidly growing need for a safespace that offers a selection of the best
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tools, techniques, modalities, processes, interviews and information for the spiritually hungry
seekers is one of America's most celebratedNew thought spiritual teachers and inspirational public speakers.
The Reverend Doctor e Yandler Van Sant, an internationally best selling author and
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much loved host and executive producer ofthe critically acclaimed, award winning series E
Yander Fixed My Life on Oprah Winfrey'sown network. Dr e Yandler Van Sant
joins me now to share the excitingnews about her latest challenge to awaken one
million people. Young event said,welcome, Thank you, How are you?
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My Beloved's so good to be withyou always, Thank you, you
too, you too, Awakening onemillion. You certainly don't do things by
halves, do you know? Aimhigh Yeah, I'm awakening one million.
You know it was really divine guidance. I mean I didn't wake up over
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my coffee one morning and just say, oh, let me go wake up
one hundred, you know, amillion people. It was through prayer and
meditation that I got that as mydirective for this next season of life,
Awaken one million. You know whenthese directives come, certainly you know the
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few times they've come for me,it's a kind of no way. You
look at the picture and you thinkimpossible. I don't want to undertake that.
How did you feel well? Iwas a little more severe than you.
I said, I'm not doing that. I am not doing that.
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And then when it comes by thethird time, I've learned how to be
obedient, because if you're not obedient, then you get to sacrifice some other
part of your life. But whenI saddened when I thought about it,
I mean, what a divine opportunityto participate in the awakening, the self
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acceptance, the self awareness, thecelebration the love of one million people and
getting them to participate in their ownprocess of evolution and healing and growth.
It's really exciting. It is exciting, and it's very interesting too. And
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I don't think actually that you're goingto have much trouble with a midian because
we're watching so many people that wenever thought, you know, would even
use words like energy or spiritual ontheir doing. So they are because the
again, as you said in youropening, the eclipse, I've been telling
my students, it's a factory reset. You know, we have gone back
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to factory settings, and for manyof us that means that we have to
unlearn some things. But we havethe inspiration, the drive to learn some
new things that will replace the thingsthat we're letting go of and just really
awaken to a new way of beingand doing and having. And those who
have been walking this path for along time, organizing things like this particular
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network, you know, they've beengoing for over a decade. Now suddenly
I think that people will find theseresources you know that are going to help
them. Yeah, so the studentis ready, the teacher appears. But
when the student is really ready,the teacher disappears and the student goes on
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the search. It becomes their ownteacher. Which is the best thing,
isn't it. So what are youoffering, Well, something for everybody.
You know, when we talk aboutawakening one million, everybody is in a
different place. And what are thetools, What are the resources, what
are the books? Who are theteachers that we can introduce and celebrate and
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support at every level? So theprocess of awakening one million, we're offering
it as a year long program,a year long process that hopefully will take
you into the next five, ten, twenty years of your life. But
wherever you are on your spiritual path, your path of healing, growth,
self discovery, we have something foryou. We've got four levels. So
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there's the awaken, there's the peoplewho they didn't know a spirit if it
bit them on the foot, whatis that? You know, We've got
that basic level for people who arelooking to do things like establish a daily
spiritual practice that's easick or if youwant to know more about spirituality, what's
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the first book to read? Whois a good teacher to go to?
So at the awaken or the basiclevel, we have resources for people,
practices, processes, prayers. I'veeven done some recordings, so if you
like my voice, I can guideyou through the basics. The basics.
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Then the next level would be awakening. So those are people who've done some
work, but now they're ready togo to the next level. They want
to develop the discipline, they wantto trust Sandy. Most people shy away
from spirituality because they don't trust themselvesand they don't know that there's a higher
force, a higher mind of presencethat they can trust. That's at the
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awakened level. Awakening level. Thenthe awakened level, those are for the
people who've done some work, whohave done their work and they really want
to now dig in and make thework not something separate from the rest of
their lives. You know, peoplecan be spiritual over here and a corporate
lound dog over here. You know, they want to really make it more
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integrated and more integrated process. Theywant to be awakened. And then you've
got those awoke people, the onewho've done the work, and now we
want to support them in teaching,training, sharing. So many people walk
around with a wealth of knowledge andthey don't know how to share it.
So there's something for everybody, youknow. I remember once talking to somebody
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who had gone on a you know, two decade long journey India, studying
with gurus, et cetera. Andat the end of it, he said,
you know, yes he felt hehad found enlightenment, but then he
knew that you couldn't go and sitin a cave on his own and just
you know base, you know,based in that. He had to go
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out into the world and do somethingwith it. And I think that's that's
a directive that we all have.Yes, when you know it, you've
got to share it. And sometimesthe directive or the sharing it isn't just
about, you know, write abook, open a a retreat center.
Sometimes it's just in how you liveyour life every day and how you approach
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people every day, how you speakto people, how you deal with people
so that you are a demonstration andthey see you and they just want some
of what you have. So maybeyou can take them to lunch, maybe
you start a study group, Maybeyou go into you know, an elder
home or hospitals. It doesn't haveto be something big that gets you a
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million followers on social media. It'sjust how do I integrate practice and demonstrate
what I know and who I amin a way that serves and supports other
people? Yeah? Yeah, Areyou collaborating with other spiritual teachers? Everybody?
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Anybody? Everybody? Yes, becauseyou know I don't. I don't
I don't have it all, andI'm not for everybody. But there are
other teachers who and to know abouteverything so that we can bring things together.
There are spiritual people in politics,there's spiritual people in economics. There's
spiritual people in religion. There's spiritualpeople in education, health. You know,
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I'm looking at my relationship with God, source creators, something greater than
me, my relationship with myself,my relationship with others, and my relationship
with the world. How do Iawaken and celebrate and serve and grow and
heal in all four of those areas, God, self, others, the
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world, and there are teachers whoare masterful in all of their areas.
Some people will vibrate toward books.Others will vibrate toward music. Others will
vibrate toward you know, physical activity, be it yoga or exercise. Some
are looking for nutrition, you know, when you wake up, when you
when you're loving yourself in a differentway, you want to eat a certain
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way and you want to know whatthat is, you know. So yeah,
I'm really excited about other teachers,other perspectives. That's exciting. How
do you see your role in this? I mean, will you be presenting,
will you be conducting interviews? Willyou just be managing? I'm the
midwife. I'm the midwife. Icome, I coach, I remind you
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to breathe. You know, I'mthere, But i'm there. I'm not
there to have the baby. I'mthere to support the birth of the baby.
And the baby is the process.The baby is the program. So
I'll be there, but I'm thereto This isn't enormous undertaking. I mean,
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you know, having built websites andcreated things myself online, I know
exactly how much work is involved andhow big it's going to be. How
does that not don't you to me? I am blessed with an incredible team.
I have an incredible team, andif I have the vision, they
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find the way to execute it.And that's those divine relationships and how do
you create them. You know,so many of us in the world today
who are waking up. There arethings that we want to do, and
we think we have to do itall. We think we have to do
it all. Like I said,I'm the midwife. I'm not having the
baby. I don't have to havea pain. I don't have to suck
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ice chips. I'm there to coachyou through it. So I have an
incredible team. I've got beautiful itpeople. I've got I have a team
of people and all they do ispray. That's all they do. Yeah,
so it gets done little by little, you know, the pieces come
together. But as the midwife,I've got to know we're in labor,
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we're birthing, and the goal isto get the baby here alive. So
if I was somebody who had justwoken up and we'll discuss that word later,
and I came to your website,I could what broils around it,
have a look at everything. There'sa level that's completely free. And then
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if I want to engage, thenwe start looking at you know, cherry
picking the things that interest me.Well, you t in pathways, yes,
you take for example, one ofthe things everybody can do if they
don't do anything else, is theycan come to the website and you're going
to be asked to pick a principle. You pick a letter, and it's
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going to give you a universal principleand a definition. Maybe all you want
to do is learn how to incorporatethat principle into your life, whether it's
trust or truth, or forgiveness ornon judgment, or acceptance or celebration or
victory, whatever it is. Everybodycan get that. Then at the bate,
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the beauty of waking up is selfawareness. Where are you in your
personal growth, development, healing learning? Where are you? We're not going
to tell you that, but tobe able to look at the various levels
and see, okay, this iswhere I am. I'm interested in that.
Maybe you want to do whether you'reat level two three, whether you're
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awake, awakening or awakened, maybeyou want to do the twelve steps we've
taken the twelve steps that are ofalcoholics anonymous fame, and we've broken that
transcribe them into everyday principles, principlesfor everyday living. Are you on step
one, step four, step nine, step ten, and how do you
apply that? Maybe you want towork one step a week or one step
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a month. Twelve steps will getyou through a year. So it all
depends on where you are and howyou want to approach your living. But
everything will be laid out is laidout. You can go there and see
and you get to choose because choiceis power. I don't want to tell
you choose it. Yeah, Andso then if they graduate through one year,
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let's say they've done their twelve stepsin one year, they then have
the opportunity to go on to otherlevels and go deeper and deeper. Well,
you can do any level you wantat any time. There are workshops,
there are classes, some are live, some are pre recorded that you
can do self study over the courseof six weeks, eight week, twelve
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weeks. There's one program called fromthe ground Up for people who know that
their foundation physical, mental, emotional, spiritual is not solid. That's a
six week program self directed. Yougo in that's at the awake ging level.
You go in and you will spenda week building your physical foundation,
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your money, your relationship, yourhome, your career. You'd spend a
week doing your mental foundation. Whatare your thoughts? But how are you
thinking? What do you need todo to re program your mind? Your
emotional foundation. What are some thingsthat you're still holding the need to be
cleansed and healed? What is yourspiritual foundation? That's a self directed study.
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You can do that at any levelbecause all levels are open to everyone.
Some programs and processes have a priceothers. Don't you get to choose
the words awake, awakening, awakened, Yes, awoken. I mean these
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words have become so loaded recently andyou know, so tarnished, and it's
so sad. You know, asa journalist, words are important to me.
And when I watch words being fostardizedand turned into you know, something
awful when they're not how you know, have you had any kickback from that?
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Not really, because I have aclear intention, and we have a
definition of our intention for each ofthose words and the definition of that word.
And you know, Sandy, oneof the things that we have to
heal ourselves up is allowing other peopleto tell us what to think. You
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know, there's a very powerful statementthat those who control the words and images
control the minds of the people,and people who control the words, who
control the images are telling us thata woke is bad, that woke is
bad, that awakening and you know, the woke community. And we don't
have to we don't have to embracethat. We can restructure it, which
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we have done. So I didn'thave to invent a word. I'm not
going to line up with the cultureof the of the society. This is
what it is. If you ifyou can line up with it, fine,
and if you can't, that's finetoo. Mm hmm. You have
something that you call creating a livingvision. Tell me what that is about?
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Yeah, oh, well for people. And we've got a little glitch
going on. Is it my end, Chris? I don't know if it's
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my end or your end, butthere's a little glitch that is am I
freezing at your end? Okay?Yeah you froze. I was in a
way that I freeze. Yeah,you froze at my end. Yeah.
Anyway, just keep talking and seewhat happens. So I miss what you
said. So if you could juststart that again about creating the living vision.
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Okay, you know, one ofthe most powerful tools of self realization
that we have is our vision.You know, just think about it.
You walk around in life and whatyou see really determines what you do and
what you have. I mean,for me as a woman, it's my
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vision when I go shopping. Thattells me what I see and what I
get and what I do. Butfrom a personal growth a spiritual perspective,
vision is so important. And Ialways tell my students the vision will pull
you forward. If you have avision, if you can see it,
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it will pull you forward. Youwill know what to do. So at
the a woke level, we dosomething called a living vision. Now,
this means you've got a solid spiritualfoundation. It means that you've got a
solid spiritual practice. And what youwant to do is bring your vision to
life. Now that's a program thatI do, and I walk people through,
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step by step by step, howto take that idea, how to
take that vision and turn it intoa live, living entity, calling in
the resources, not doing doing doingdoing doing, but calling in the resources
and creating the divine relationships and makingthat vision a part of who you are
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and making who you are a partof that vision. It is a powerful
process. It's a four month process, and you're going to work because if
you have a vision, you've gotto birth in So I teach other people
how to midwife their vision into reality. You've you know, we've spoken before
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about some of your other books,which have shared some of the grueling circumstances
of your early life. At whatpoint did you understand that you had the
power to change your life last Tuesday? No, because every time I think
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my power's pumping, something else comesup. You know, I do.
I tell you, Sandy, itreally is a function of my spiritual practice
and really just being in touch withthe highest, grandest part of me as
a human being. I am crazyas hell. But at what point did
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you did you, you know,kind of understand the whole spirituality thing.
I don't know if there was apoint, as much as there was followed
dots. You do it and itworks, You do it and it gets
better, you do it and youhave more to do. You step into
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it and it unfolds. So Idon't know if there was one particular point
or a combination a collection of dotsand points and experiences when you hear something
and you are obedient to what youhear and it blesses somebody else, it
manifests in your life. I meanit's been thirty I've had my school inter
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Vision's Institute now for thirty six years, and I remember getting that instruction you're
gonna start at school and you're gonnateach people what you've learned, and I'm
like, no, I'm not doingthat. And it took me three years
to write the curriculum and the peoplewho showed up to sit with me,
and the people who brought their ownskills, and how we develop the faculty,
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And when we open the school thefirst year and one hundred and seven
people showed up to do a twoyear in person program, I was like,
oh my god, this is working. So it's really being having the
vision, being able to see it, and then being obedient to the guidance
ide I've felt. And some thingsdidn't work out, some things didn't work
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out, but I was looking forthe lesson as opposed to being afraid or
frightened because this didn't turn okay,Well what happened here? What did you
do? Oh? You didn't dothat remember you didn't do or you did
this, Who told you to dothat? Why did you do that?
So it's really about being self awareagain, accepting your missteps, accepting whatever
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shows up without judging in as bador wrong. I have to say that
part of my foundation, and thesolid part of my foundation, has been
a course of miracles. Mastering thoselessons has saved my life many many days.
When did you come across that?Nineteen seventy eight. Nineteen seventy eight,
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I saw a little ad in thecommunity paper and I was in crisis.
My life was Oh my goodness,I can't even tell you. It
was the bottom of the trash can. And this little ad in the community
paper, one of the little spiritualpapers you get in the bookstore. It
said, are you ready for amiracle? Oh? Hell yeah, That's
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the only thing that's gonna save meis a miracle, you know. So
I went to the reading. Iwas living in Philadelphia at the time,
and I got all dressed up andI went to the little meeting at the
address on the and I walked inthe room and it must have been about
maybe eight or nine middle aged whitepeople, and they looked at me,
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and I looked at them and IHey, at that point, I didn't
care who was in the room.I needed a miracle. And it was
a study group for the course ofmiracles led by a beautiful, beautiful man.
His name was Dan. And Iwent to that group. Oh my
god, almost two years and studieda course in miracles. Turned my life
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around seventy eight. Well, Ithink that you're the right person to be
talking to people, teaching you know, how to envision your life, create
you know, the living vision thatyou want, because so many people aren't
haven't lived it, but you've reallylived it. Yes, well, you
know they have lived it, Sandy, because we each get what we need
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in order to learn, in orderto heal, in order to grow.
But because they weren't awoke or awakened, they weren't paying attention. That's it.
Everybody has received exactly what they need, you know. Well, we
were talking the other day. Isaid to you, you know, I
lost both of my daughters, thefirst one twenty years ago, and it
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was I was a hot mess,ready to take my life, ready to
throw in everything. She was mydearest, dearest friend, and I just
didn't know how I was going tobreathe without her. So twenty years later,
when I lost my second daughter,before I went into the grief and
the horror, the devastation of that, I remembered what I did the first
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time. I remembered what worked.I remember what didn't work. I remember
it didn't work for me to denywhat I was feeling. It didn't work
for me to try to be strongfor everybody else. It didn't work for
me to try to make all thearrangements and it didn't work. That didn't
work. I had to look atwhat worked and what didn't work. So
when I lost my second daughter,I left pe will help me. I
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sat looking drooling on the side ofthe bed and let them do everything.
I didn't have to do it becauseit was my daughter. So I say
that because I want people to understandif you've had an illness, if you've
been divorced, if you've failed outof business, if you've lost all your
money, those are not things thathappen to you. They're things that happen
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for you, and you know howto get through it. And what you
learn going through that, how canyou apply it to what you're going through?
Now? That's self awareness. Wewant to wake up to that.
We want to wake up to theblessing in every single unpreferred experience. I
don't call them challenges and issues anymore. They're unpreferred. I prefer not to
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be divorced. But since I am, that's a good way of looking at
it. That really is a goodway of looking at it. And I
think you're are. And it's aninteresting thing because you know, grief is
one of those things that can overtakepeople very easily. And you know,
it doesn't matter how many times you'veexperienced it each time, but you're offering
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people a new way to look atit. Well, you know, it's
understanding the distinction between grief and mourning. Grief is a natural, organic process
that your soul, your psyche willmove through. Where we get stuck,
Sandy is in the mourning. Letme make the distinction. Grief is a
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natural, psychological, emotional, spiritualresponse to loss. It could be the
loss of a pet, a job, a person, a home, you
know, an object that you're goingto grieve that. Mourning is a reaction
to a loss that is grounded inremorse or regret. Mourning is I should
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have done this, Why didn't Ido that. How come I didn't know,
why didn't they do this? Whydidn't they do that? Only if
that's mourning, you're gonna get stuckin mourning. But if you grieve,
if you stay in touch with yourfeelings, admit your anger, admit your
helplessness, your hopelessness, admit thatand allow it to unfold. As a
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mom who who lost the child,one of the things that I had to
learn was that it was okay forme to be okay even though she was
gone. I didn't know that.I didn't know it was okay for me
to be okay. I thought Ihad to mourn forever, mourn, not
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regret, I mean, not grieve, but mourn. And I had to
learn the first day, when Iwas feeling happy, I was like,
oh, wait a minute, Iwas a bad mother. I should be
weeping and crying. Well, no, not. Five years later, you
can feel okay. So I thinkmany people react to the lass with regret
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or remorse and don't process through theanger, the helplessness, the hopelessness.
They get stuck and they get stuckin mourning not grieving. That's a really
important distinction. It's a really valuablepiece of information. And you should write
a book about that. You wantme to write a book about everything.
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about IVTV, Oh IVTV. Youknow, having worked in television, I
just recognize how sometimes when people whoare not there every day but have a
say in what goes on every day, can limit you can limit your expression.
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And trust me, I was atthe Oprah Winfrey Network. I really
had free brain to do whatever cameacross my heart. But there were also
the advertisers, so they didn't likea particular topic, or if they didn't
like it was the way it wasbeing presented, the network had to acquiesce
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to that. So I decided,if I'm going back on television, back
in front of a camera, Idon't want. I want it to be
no holds barred. So I founda beautiful streaming network founded by Mark Cuban,
who's one of the hosts on SharkTank. And he started a streaming
platform and he invited me to bea part of that platfor for the fireside
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platform. So I started IVTV,Young levan Zant TV, inter Visions TV,
whatever your IV is, your intravenousvitamins. And this is where I
talk to authors and I talk toother teachers and we provide five seven days
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of programming. We're building it upso we have other hosts. We start
every day with every Day I Pray, where we guide people through a twelve
to fifteen minute affirmative prayer process justto start the day. And then in
the evenings we have we have asound bath one day, we have a
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shaman who does the awakening heart,we have a medium who gives people guidance
right on IVTV. So it's reallyan opportunity to do no holds barred broadcasting.
Were no advertisers to tell us whatwe can do, and we can't
get sued in. We can dowhatever feels right in the moment, and
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we don't have to do it forever, and we don't do it for ratings.
We do it for service. Theservice. Yeah yeah, yeah.
And you also have a book club, and you recently had a course that
got my attention because it was aproject that was launched for men, and
I think men are very underserved inour community. And you know that book,
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The Invisible Ake, Black Men identifyingtheir pain and Reclaiming their power.
I mean, brilliant title, brilliantbook, brilliant topic. But it's not
just black men, it's all men. Yeah. We got the author,
Courtney B. Vance, who's anacclaimed actor here in the US and husband
to our beloved Angela Bassett. Hewrote the book because at the height of
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his career, he was in anaward winning play on Broadway and he was
suffering from chronic, almost debilitating depressionwhere he would sit for hours on the
edge of the bed and they prophim up and pump him out in the
world and he'd go do his performance, and then you go back to the
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edge of the bed. And hewrote this book and it was an invisible
ache, something he couldn't name,couldn't see, couldn't touch, but it
was always there. He always feltit. And so many men have that
invisible ache of all races. Thisbook is about a black man and dedicated
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to black men, but as wedo the book club, we know that
it's the same thing. Because menaren't taught, They just aren't taught how
to first of all, have afeeling, second of all, identify the
feeling, and then talk about thefeeling and society the way men and boys
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are thrown out in the world.They're expected to be silent and to be
strong and to be whatever. Andat the root of Courtney's issue was his
father's suicide and his father suicide committedsuicide because he went through his whole life,
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married, children, everything, believingthat his mother didn't want him.
His mother didn't want him, andit became overwhelming and he reacted and took
his own life. Many many yearslater, Courtney had a godson that he
raised and at twenty three years old, that godsn took his own life and
that triggered Courtney into a depression andhelped him to identify his own age,
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which sent him to therapy, whichsent him to a radical, radical approach
to self care for men. Womenwill do self care. We'll take a
bath, we'll go to the spa, we'll do our nails, our hair.
You know our men doing that?Do they know they have time?
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But more important, Sandy, dothey know they have permission? Nobody is
going to think them wrong or bador the kryptonite for men inadequate, if
they have a feeling, if theyhave a day off, if they are
confused, if they have a fear, if they have a whatever. So
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the Invisible Ache virtue. It wasa virtual or book club for men.
Men came together every week for fiveconsecutive weeks and walk through the invisible Ache.
I facilitated, but every week Ihad a different man with me.
I had a coach, I hada minister, I had an educator,
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I had a psychologist. And whowas the other person, I can't remember
the other person. But every weekand basically what I did, I did
the prayer work, I did thebreath work, and then as a woman,
I shot there, sat there withmy mouth shut and just let them
have at it. And there weremen who spoke about things they said they
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had never spoken about from their childhood. Men who didn't know that it was
okay to acknowledge that they had beensexually abused, physically abused. Men who
felt lonely, men who felt sad, men who felt confused. But they
got up every day and they wentto work, you know, and they
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did. Men who knew how todo, but didn't know how to be
so I think we'll do it againat some point, because that is an
incredible book that opened men up toknow it is okay you have permission not
to know, to be afraid,to be confused, and there are hundreds
of thousands of other men on thatsame step with you. Yeah, I
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think, And this is a topicthat I've delved into in the past because
you know, I once wrote abook which was about understanding the opposite sex,
you know, for men and forwomen. And the research that I
did on men showed exactly this.And I think since you know, since
we stopped our natural way of livingand rights of passage, the rights of
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passage I think were so important formen, we still have them. Women
still have them, but the mendon't. And that's criminal because their identity,
you know, it takes well.They end up thinking, as you
said, that they've got to bestrong, they've got to be you know,
quiet, They can't admit to anything, and we're taking away so much
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from them. We're completely emasculating themin a way, so they can't you
know, have the masculine power thatwe want to see, and they can't
be our leaders. And that's whatwe so sorely need right now that masculine
leadership that's a unique balance of headand heart, of intellect and emotion,
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of physicality and spirituality, a newway of men to be, so that
there's a new way that they do, so that we can all have differently.
You know, it's not the grabthe woman by a head drag her
up anymore. But nobody's taught themthe new way. And it's incumbent upon
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us as mothers, as wives,as daughters, as sisters, as friends
to give our men permission and tosupport that and taking care of themselves in
a new way and learning a newway of being. And that means that
we have to lay down some ofour expectations, you know, because and
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I say this to men time,and they laugh at me. I say,
ninety nine percent of the time,when she's angry and fussing at you,
it's not that she's mad. She'safraid. Yes, she's afraid either
that you're not going to be thereor you can't be there, and then
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she's not going to know what todo. So don't think that she's angry.
Know that she's afraid, and youcan help navigate that fear in the
way you be with her and theway you speak with her. So I
think it's so important right now asa woman. I don't want to dismiss
men, demean men, dishonor men, disrespect men, and I don't want
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to keep running ahead of them.I think it's women, you know,
we're running ahead in the poor manand trying to catch up. Yeah,
and that we've got to shift that. So in addition to awakening one million
in this year, my directive isto turn my tent toward men. And
I'm grateful they trust me because Idon't want anything from you. I don't
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want anything from you, and whereveryou are, I'm going to meet you
there and I'm not going to dishonoryour dignity. I'm not going to do
that. And I've demonstrated that.So men really do trust me, Black
men and white men, all kindof men, and women trust me with
their husbands. It's interesting because therehave been several, you know, kind
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of surges of attempts to create theseplatforms that have never really stuck. You
know, there's been a bit ofinterest iron John back in the eighties,
John Blir, you know, variousdifferent men's groups that were started but they've
never quite got the traction that theyneeded. And I think now with the
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new energy, I think that there'san opportunity. Yeah. Well, you
know when men come together, theyare they come together usually to compete,
you know, and they've got toprove their strength, and they've got to
prove their whatever. And they asa Yamla, the great mother, the
teacher, they're coming to me tolearn. So I'm not gonna beat you
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up for what you don't know andcan't do. I'm going to support you,
teach you, facilitate you, andthen you do whatever you do with
it. So I think that themcoming, and as a woman, I'm
coming with heart. It's my heartthat is attracting them, not my desire
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for anything. I don't want anything, you know. I guess that's because
I'm a great grandmother now, SoI'm coming from a whole nother perspective.
And again I don't take it lightlyand I don't deny men trust me.
They trust me, and that isan honor and it's a privilege, and
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I'm very mindful never ever to abusethat. Now that doesn't mean I'm gonna
let you get away with crazy,but I'm not going to abuse you when
you show up and women send metheir husbands and their sons. He had
taken. So what was the whatkind of responses did you get from the
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men that came, whether they werepushed by their wants to attain or whether
they chose to do so themselves.I mean slow, It was very slow.
But when the ones who came,they went and got the other ones.
Yeah, they went and got theother one. See, as women,
we will just show up. Ohthat sounds good, let me do
that, put the credit card downor do whatever you do it. But
(46:44):
men they're like hmm. The thingthat I love about men is once they're
in their inn. Yes, oncethey're in there in I think about myself.
I've joined the gym. Fifty sixstarts never showed up whenever they have
a special I joined the gym,but I don't go. But a guy
(47:04):
will join the gym and he'll go, he'll go, he'll go. So
what happened was the ones who showedup. It was very slow, very
small, but every week it grewbecause once they got there and realized a
they were safe, e they wererespected, they weren't challenged, they weren't
judged and they could hear each other. The next week there would be more
(47:30):
and more and more. So itwas really really abuse and they didn't want
to end. So I said,well, y'all don't have to end,
but I won't be here every week. Go over to Google and do something.
Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah. AndI think the hardest, you know,
the biggest heard a is for themto give themselves permission and to admit
this may be good for me.Yeah. Yeah, and you know how
(47:52):
they show up, Yeah, yeah, prove it to me, right,
yeah? Yeah. So, what'sI mean. We've talked about Awaken one
million, and we've talked about thisreally really important critical subject. What is
(48:12):
your take on where society is goingfrom here? Because you know, everybody
I speak to is aware that theold system's crumbling and that we need a
new way, and yet the peoplein power are continuing, absolutely oblivious on
the same track. Yeah. Well, here's what I know. Here's what
(48:37):
I know. This doesn't have tobe true for anybody else. What we're
seeing in the world among our leadersin government and politics and just in the
world, what we're seeing in theworld is a function of who we are.
They're showing us who we are They'reshowing us our innermals, thoughts,
(48:57):
and feelings. They're showing us oursecret with behaviors. They're showing us because
at all times, in all situations, under all circumstances, there's nobody in
the room but me. Everything Isee is an aspect of me, and
how I deal with it, howI address it, how I interact with
(49:19):
it, determines my level of awakeningand my outcome. So people, how
unfortunately, are looking out in theworld and getting caught up in what the
people are doing, as opposed tosay, and oh my god, how
do I do that? How doI lie? How do I bully?
How do I not tell the wholetruth? How do I make everything about
me? How do I just denythe truth? How do I You know,
(49:43):
That's what people are doing, andthey're getting caught up in those personalities.
But we're getting to a critical pointthat solely eclips that, you know,
I mean, I don't want toget into astrology, but what's happening
in the world, what's being awakenedin our genie means simply by virtue of
the environmental shift. Oh you,oh, you're gonna get clear, that
(50:06):
is you boo. It is you. Everything you see is you, and
you can tell it you if itupsets you, if it angers you,
if it triggers you me Like Itold you the other day, I'm under
the bed with my popcorn looking ooh, look at that look. And I
also say, okay, I'm soglad I heal that. I'm so glad
(50:29):
I'm not there. I'm so gladI'm better. And then when I see
things that trigger up something, I'mlike, okay, let me go in
and clean that up so that whenI see it out here, I don't
have to react to it. Idon't have to fight it. I don't
have to deny it. I justhave to call it what it is.
That is a lie, that isunkind, unloving. You know, recently
(50:53):
here in the US we lost ohJa Simpson died and you know, he
was at once a beloved football playerand then was accused of a tragic crime.
And when the day he died,public people with a huge platform said
(51:15):
things like good writtens. A newspaperprinted on the cover of the newspaper his
picture real killer Dead. I waslike, oh my god, we have
really sunk into a pit of depravity. Never mind his children, his grandchildren.
(51:38):
But this was the big thing forme. When I leave this body,
I don't know where I'm going,but I'm sure when I get there,
nobody's going to ask me, whatdid you think about OJ Simpson?
You do it you think you did, And let me worry about myself and
(51:58):
everything that I do. Let mebe kind and loving. What if you
passed on and somebody would upset withyou were to put on social media,
good riddance for your children, yourmother, your grandchildren to see that's not
about OJ Sandy. No, that'sabout that person's heart, and that poison
(52:22):
in their heart is going to infectevery single area of their life. So,
like I said, I'm under thebed with my popcorn watching Oh look
at that. It would be interestingto, you know, come back in
three or four years and have alook at how things have changed, because
(52:43):
they are changing. They have tochange. They have to. Yeah,
So tell our viewers where they canfind iv TV, where they can find
Awaken one million. Well, let'sdo Awakening one million, because I'm so
excited about that. Eyamla dot com. I y A N l A.
(53:08):
You may not be able to sayit, but you can spell it.
I why A N l a yamladot com. You'll find everything about Awakening
one million and for the I vt V Fireside one word Fireside. You
go there and you'll see me,You'll see Steve Harvey, you'll see doctor
(53:30):
Phil, You'll see just an incrediblearray of teachers who are sharing on this
platform. So what else are youdoing retiring? I don't see anything.
No, And and you know,I have the divine blessing of raising my
(53:52):
six year old great grandson. Youknow, it's it's cultural, it's a
blessing. He's six, and sohe keeps me on my toes. You
know, that's why it's seventy.I can still wear a ponytail because I'm
raising a six year old and youhave the opportunity it is now who doesn't
(54:13):
have to grow up in the sameway that others have not in the lease.
And I'm very clear that's why he'swith me. I mean, because
this little boy at six, hasbeen through a lot and he ended up
on my doorstep by accident. Okay, by accident. My daughter, his
grandmother had COVID and I went toget him so that she could recover.
(54:38):
And when I got him, Iwas like, oh my God, he's
an impath. He is brilliant.He's probably about eight thousand years old in
that little body, and he doesn'tknow how to manage that, and neither
do his parents. So you know, through subversive means and methods, he's
(55:00):
ended up in my home and nowhe plays Tibetan singing bowls, and he
knows how to meditate, and heknows how to breathe, and he knows
the twenty third som and he knowsfourteen lessons out of a course in miracles.
Okay, I would say you're doinga really good job there. Yeah.
End events, It's always a pleasureto talk with you. Thank you
(55:22):
so much for joining us today.Thank you for having me, and thank
you to your incredible audience, andthank you for what you bring to them.
So I'm looking forward to seeing youand them in the future as we
awaken up absolutely or second that soAwakening one million. That's the name of
the new website, Portal Hub,Magic Cabe, whatever you want to call
(55:45):
it, but it is definitely worthchecking out. For more information about Illender's
books, podcast, audios, events, visit her website, yender dot com.
That's it for this week. I'mSandy Sedgebier, thank you for joining
me today. I look forward tobeing back with you at the same time
next week. Until then, it'sgoodbye for me and thank you Yendler. Thank you
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