What To Do When It's Too Late - 01/15/25

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
What to do when it becomes too late for humans
to correct their behavior? Author researcher, professor, and climate change
expert David Hawk says such a question implies a need
for change, and herein an argument is presented that humans
believe in their own immortality, but a price is paid

(00:42):
for support of that belief. Humans protect themselves from change
via culture, and it's implied changelessness. As summers bring intolerable
heat that increases and storms that eliminate insurance companies, humans
began to think of change. Please welcome the host of

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what to do when it becomes too late? David Hawk.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh, good evening, my friends, It's nice to be here again.
Nice to see you tonight. We're going to deal with
this question of is it too late? And so I'm
going to be a little bit maybe ironic, maybe even

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a little bit cynical relative to a presentation. Thus the
question would be his climate change a hoax? And as
many of our leaders in a number of countries, particularly
this one called the United States of America, or at
least the incoming leader more or less guarantees as that

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climate change is a hoax, we should bury it, forget it,
move on. And thus forget about this notion of too late.
Oh is it too late? Because if it's a hope,
how can to be too late? So, for example, maybe
we look at California and look at those fires that

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are raging across California, and if I'm sitting in Washington,
d C. I can make an interesting presentation on how
those are simply the fires are simply part of a
Hollywood movie, typical California stuff. They were made to a
terrorI isue and also put insurance companies off the hook.

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So insurance companies really would no longer need to ensure
against storms, floods, fires, or angry neighbors, whatever insurance companies
traditionally would insure against. And so all they'd really have
to ensure against is, oh, perhaps against somebody that drives

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by and accuses your house of being ugly. Then of
course you could use that as a way to talk
about the value was lowered, thus the insurance company should
make up the difference. Forget about that other crap relative
to climate change, in essence destroying the idea of insurance

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being affordable. Ever, and Mike mention that twenty years ago
I gave a presentation on how Florida and California would
be initial targets of climate change consequences. And back then
I use the term sacubed to talk about climate change consequences,

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and that consequences in some ways were more helpful to
listeners than just simply climate change. Anyway, I was wrong, sorry,
that presentation twenty years ago was simply wrong. I claimed
that Florida would be the first to go first to
demonstrate the horrors of climate change. Indeed it appears to

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be California. But of course that's presuming climate change is
not a hoax. And in essence we need to discuss
whether it's too late to prepare or diminish, or even
soften climate change. Let's take a look at the first light.

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So here, for example, is a picture of fires raising
across developed human area, for example California. And at least
a few years ago, the numbers we put together were
that these fires threaten one third of US residents and

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buildings across the nation. That's a big deal. Since that time,
they've now expanded it to perhaps a half, certainly more
than a third. And so yeah, the numbers were someplace
between four hundred billion dollars for the cost from the

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destruction to around a billion dollars I'm sorry, four hundred
billion versus about nine hundred billion dollars a year relative
to the cost of dealing with climate change relative to wildfires.
Of course, that was some years ago. Now I think
the numbers are particularly since California popped up, are significantly higher.

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Quite tough, let's go on to the next image. So,
in essence, this image on the left implies that climate
change is not a hoax, and most Californians now except

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that climate change is not a hoax, no matter what
people might say in Washington on the opposite edge of
the country. So in essence, as we've talked about before,
some tipping points have been reached, and now in California
we've gone beyond reaching some of the tipping points to
being either burned in them or buried under them. Of course,

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if you'd like to continue with the idea of climate
change is a hoax, why be so negative? Why don't
you be positive? So, in essence, the image on the right,
which I've shown both of these before, these are just
reminders of where we came from. But in essence, on
the right we have more optimism, and so an essence

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on the great ship Titanic, which the iceberg and went under,
which we still talk about the belongings on it. In fact,
during the last week they dug up some even more
interesting items within the sunken ship. But this comment is

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I think quite good for those that believe climate change
is a hoax. We don't have to worry about icebergs
anymore thanks to climate change next image. And so if
I've been right since nineteen seventy five or more recently

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on my concern about climate change consequences and what they
would do to civilization, to humans, to life in general,
and human lives in particular, then we really have to
find a way to move on to business as unusual
in that business as usual is the major generator of

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climate change. So we really must move on and find
discover develop somehow we need business as unusual, and young
people are quite excited about looking for that. We elders,
I'm not so sure if we have an idea of
what that might mean, but it's well worth you sitting

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back with a cup of coffee and think, okay, or
even Scotch, sorry, class of wine, and think about what
would business as unusual be like if indeed we begin
to have some respect for nature, for life, for the planet,
for the cosmos. That's quite an agenda, right. Anyway, Let's

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go on to the next because if indeed we continue
with business as usual, I pretty well guarantee you you'll
see a world of no business, and that meant in
a bad sense. So, as I promised tonight, we would
go into the world of different dimensions, and I'm going

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to talk about mostly about five dimensions, although there is six,
and these dimensions are a pretty exciting field just now.
And the next book I've now started on has to
do with the study of dimensions for the simple reason
that if you know what dimension a person is standing in,

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you pretty well know what they're thinking, and you certainly
know what they're going to be talking about. So for
those that are talking about climate change as a hoax,
sitting in California with a house burning around them, we
pretty well know what they're going to say if we
know what dimension they're speaking from. So tonight I'm going

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to do another run through dimensions. I looked at these before,
maybe back in Session twenty one, So if you ever
go back to Session twenty one, you'll see much more
about dimensions, and indeed some of these slides come out
of session twenty one. So we started the zero dimension,

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which in essence is a doct a point, a whole,
the beginning, and in essence it's somewhat like Stephen Hawkings
Black hole. And if you remember Stephen Hawkings, he made
this famous comment about humans on a TV program I

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think back in maybe ninety five ninety six, where he commented,
humans are nothing but chemical slime on an unimportant planet
at the edge of the universe, and beyond our planet
there are billions and billions of galaxies, And in the
last couple of months they have challenged him talking about

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billions of galaxies and they now believe that he was
a bit shortsighted. In fact, there are billions and billions.
There are many more billions than Stephen Hawkins imagined of galaxies.
So if you keep that in mind, the Earth is
a pretty trivial little piece and these funny little humans

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crawling around at it are also a bit funny. Next image.
So that was the zero dimension that we stand on,
and then we go on to two dimensions second dimension,
and the second dimension really is a line. So just

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as zero dimension is a point. And when I talk
about that point, I talk about people that don't know
and don't care. And in many case I mentioned names
of politicians than an essence. Many of the politicians we
deal with in the world these days and even in

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the US, are people that don't know and don't care,
and they simply stand on their point and try to
figure out where things are going to make sure they'll
have power over others. And so they draw on the
second dimension, I'm sorry, on the first dimension in order
to find that out. And the first dimension has to

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do with a line. And if you need a metaphor,
Teter Totter is a great one. So on two ends
of the line, you simply have two groups of people,
and the politicians look at that line and see which
end has more people on it. They don't really care
about the point in hand, as you can tell what

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they say when they answer questions to the Senate or
the House, that an essence they're looking for, whether master czar,
and so they go with one end or the other,
the Teeter Tarter, because that way they'll get reelected or
popular or in a non democratic country, not that we are,
but in a non democratic country at least they'll have

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more access to money and power. And so that was
the first dimension. Maybe we should take a break and
then we will go on to the second dimension.

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Speaker 2 (15:47):
And now if we could move on to power point six,
which is the beginning of what we call the second dimension.
That before, if you recall, talked about the zero dimension,
which is a point and has a person standing on it,
normally called a politician who's proud of not knowing, not caring,

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just wants to have more power over others. And that
person in the zero dimension watches the first dimension, which
is a line which is the basis of digititis, which
is the basis of computer science as we now know it,
or as it was brought to us by the logic
of Aristotle, which I've talked about before. So, in essence,

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Aristotle put everything in a digital format. And we continued,
and so a straight line is the basis for a
digital format where you study the two ends. But now
we move on to something more significant called the second dimension.
And the second dimension, essence, is a flat plane, and
so it has no depth, but an essay, it has

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height and width. And what I often use is our
legal system, in essence, is based on two dimensions, which
is the notion that it's all based on the law
as written. Supposedly, that's a lie, but they keep saying that.
So in essence, you look to the law, you look

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to the written document for what is the truth. And then,
of course, if you're the Supreme Court of the US,
then you can quickly ignore the truth or at least
the truth of fifty years ago, one hundred years ago,
two hundred years ago. But you have this two dimensional
stuff in front of you. And if you need to

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go deeper and wider into two dimensions, maybe go back
and read about Plato's allegory or the cave where people
were trapped underground, where I mentioned before, they have their
headlocked in place, their body locked in place. They could
only look above them at the ceiling of the cave.
Behind them was a campfire, So in essence, what they

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were seeing were their shadows on the ceiling, which became
their only reality. So in two dimensions, everything they thought
was reality were their shadows cast on the ceiling by
the lamp or the light the fire behind them, and
the hell of a life. And if I remember previously,

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I mentioned that in the Allegory of the Cave, Plato
talked about a few of them being set free, and
they were sent outside to see the sun, to see plants,
to see earth, to see life, and they went all
freaky for a long time. They could not believe what
they came out of relative to what is. And then

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one or two, unfortunately went back in the cave to
inform the rest that they were all wrong and there
was a better life out there. And of course those
two were killed by the cave dwellers. And so the
second dimension is a big deal. If you want to
pursue more, I recommend a book called flat land. And
if you want to go even deeper, have a look

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at people that watch TV all the time, or that
look at their cell phones all the time, or that
are reading papers all the time. They avoid the third dimension. So,
in essence, I think it's easy to say that we
are more and more trapped into a two dimensional world,
such as cell phones, TVs. Whatever. Okay, let's move on

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the next image. After we leave these two then we
get to the third dimension, which is a masterful dimension,
which is a fantastic dimension, which is the one that
people that escaped from Plato's cave went out and saw,
and they were really they were shocked by what they found.

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And the third dimension I have always called mother nature,
and it's always in essence, I have long preferred the
leadership of women, in part because I love my mother
so much, But in essence I trust a female leadership.
I trust feminine values much more than masculine. Nonetheless, mother

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nature is the essence of the third dimension, and so
in essence, it's the nurturing process and it's integration. Okay,
let's go on to the next slide. Let's forget that
optimism about the third dimension and nature and beauty and
why mothers are wonderful and why children could be wonderful

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but sometimes go astray. Now we've made it to what's
called the fourth dimension. Whereas the last one I talked
about as Mother Earth, this one we're calling father Time.
Father Time is the fourth dimension that many people say
is the home of time, But in essence, I think

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it's different than that. I believe it's the home of entropy,
where entropy defines time, time does not define entropy. Entropy
is much more powerful than time, and I think every
major physicist and cosmologist that I know of that has

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encountered entropy considers it the most powerful rule of the universe.
That in essence, it is the essence of lawful order,
as opposed to a legal order, which you hear about
if you go see a lawyer or a judge. Lawful
order is the order of the cosmos of the universe,

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and entropy is the big deal in the universe because
everything tends towards detegration. So if you look at this
little image here, this is the pickup truck that you
saw on TV about thirty years before, which very shiny
and very nice, very inviting, and the sales brochure or

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the TV ad simply talked about if you buy this pickup,
you'll have a wonderful mode of transportation. But in essence,
the neighbors will be very jealous of you. And in
the commercial they never mentioned the oil needs change, the
carding's worst, or that even if you do all those things,

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the pickup will deteriorate over time. So this is a
later stage of the entropic process. And I'm simply asking
now you understand entropy, and in the universe, entropy is
never reversed, never avoided. It is simply the process since

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Big Bang theory of the universe and all parts in it,
including humans. So if you like to think that you're
immortal an essence, you believe in a negative enter and
negative entropy for me is one of the great jokes
of humans and an essence it's the basis for religion,
most religions embedded about twenty five hundred years ago, three

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thousand years ago. An essence began with men, of course,
the masculine, and they were defined as a negative entropy
rule in order to bypass or ignore or reverse entropy.
So in essence, you were born in essence on a

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road to death. But if you adopt a religion, then
you become immortal and you don't die. You go off
to heaven, which is the essence of negentropy, which by
definition cannot exist. So this is an image for you
to think about when you want to understand what is
entropy in its process. This is a very big deal.

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Next image place then, going on from the fourth dimension
and the fourth dimension I talk about relative to masculinity,
because the essence of the fourth dimension is what got
exaggerated by industrialization. Industrialization was a very manly routine of

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setting up machinery to use ful, to use fuel, to
use minerals to make stuff for people to buy or
leave around or maybe whatever they do with it. For example,
we grow a lot of food, and it's supposedly to eat, right,
so we use industrialized agriculture to produce an abundance of food,

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such an abundance that last year, based on the testing,
forty percent of the food produced was not consumed. It
was thrown away vis of the industrialization. And many of
the clothes that are produced vis of e the industrial
also are either never warren or warren once. And so

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this manly approach using masculine values at the heart of
industrialization and its machinery, in essence, is the major cause
of climate change. It is the essence of where our
problem came from. But in essence, that came out of
the fourth dimension. Now what's this fifth dimension, and hopefully

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you've been reading these little words on the side. It's
a very very different domain. It's very spiritual. It's by
definition non rational. The fourth is by definition and rational,
because the industrialized basis came out of the rationality of

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designing machines, using machines, consuming minerals, by consuming energies. So,
in essence, the fifth dimension is very different. We've moved
on to something quite quite different. It doesn't mean you're
body is going to go there, but it certainly means
there's a mentality that will go there. The spirituality, not

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spirituality in a religious sense, but in a much more
powerful sense. So in that spirituality, there's no hierarchies, no
digital dimensions and divisions, no lines like Teeter Totter's forgive me,
no idiots in the fifth dimension, and of course no

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assholes as far as I can tell. There's also no parts.
There's no analysis of parts, and that which appears to
be different in essence includes a lot of humor, which
is a good thing. So differences are used for humor,
not for something for killing each other, over having a war,

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over spitting at someone, or wasting a lot of money,
because of difference. In essence, difference is humorous. And then,
of course the fifth dimension contains all of the above,
plus a great deal more. And next time we're going
to go a little deeper into the fifth dimension and
round off a little more of the first five that

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I had talked about, and the occupants of zero through
fourth dimension. But keep in mind third dimension, mother Nature,
fourth dimension, Father Time, fifth dimension, the essence of spirituality.
And I came across this decades ago because I was

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trying to understand why we knew things before they happen,
that I know I'm not alone, and having encountered knowing
something was going to happen, and by God it happened,
a government study done on me was wondering why I
tend to know things are going to happen about fifteen

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years before. They thought fifteen is a very strange number.
So this David Hawk is a very strange person, So
how do we understand why he tends to be right
about things, but fifteen years too early. So in essence,
I really believe we know things. So for example, as

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you remember, I built this house, I've worked on this house,
rebuilt this house, repair this house, And in one rather
fateful occasion which was probably meant to be deaf but
got interrupted, I put a major beam across the edge
of the house, which I think I mentioned before, two

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by eight fifteen sixteen foot long beam to try and
get a sense of where the deck should be, what
should be the level. And as I tack that onto
the edge of the house, I was thinking, this is
going to fall off on me, isn't it. I continue
to tack it on, and then I went down and
started working underneath it, knowing that beam would fall on me.

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And guess what, It fell on me, and it cracked
my skull open, and I think I mentioned before, required
one hundred and fifty stitches to put my skull back
together again, And supposedly according to the doctor doing the surgery,
I had about forty five minutes yet to live as

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they were working on me because of the blood loss. Anyway,
how could I know that beforehand? And it happened? And
also how could I not have avoided that which I
could have. So each of you have things which you know,
events you know, And in fact, I think all forms
of life, trees, plants, animals, humans, all have this sensitivity

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to spirituality. They're all part of the same system. And
there's no major distinction as Darwin would like to make
between some the and spa smarter than others, better than others,
fatter than others, taller than others. Those distinctions go away
within the world of spirituality. But I do believe all

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aspects of life, all forms of life, tap into that
spirituality and know a great many things. And in fact,
that's probably why so many people currently are so angry
at each other, because they more or less know what
each other's thinking. They more or less know what's unwinding

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around climate change. They may enjoy calling it a hoax,
but in essence they do know it's coming, and they
do know that it is not a hoax, it's not
a joke, and they know that from the spiritual world,
which is a world where all forms of life. And
in one of my lectures one I was given with

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back in nineteen eighty with another friend colleague, we got
interrupted at the end on this little piece by saying
that why don't you include minerals and rocks, that indeed
they also are part of spirituality. You think you learn

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a lot by going back into the history of humans,
you'll learn much more going back into the history of rocks.
And so this fifth dimension is a very big deal
for me, a very big deal for understanding climate change,
a very big deal since nineteen seventy five when I
first began to learn about climate change coming upon us.

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So the fifth dimension is quite something, and it's spirituality,
but not spirituality, as religious leaders would tell us, as
long as you keep giving them money and pray for
them and pray, they'll be wonderful and handsome and in
charge and dictate your life, maybe more lest your children.

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Maybe not, depends on their religion. But nonetheless, I'm talking
about a very different dimension. And next time we'll go
just a bit deeper in this. Sorry for being late
this time, have a very nice weekend. See you next week.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
This has been what to do when it becomes too
late with host David Hawk. Recent studies conclude that about
eighty five percent are concerned with their being a human future.
They begin to sense that short term gains come at
a longer term price. Many are foregoing the idea of

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immortality via having children. Tune in each week as David
talks about these and other important global issues Wednesdays, six
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