Assassinating Hookupships

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, well, what's going on people? This is influence one
of your hostess of the podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
What we're thinking? Unto my right? As usual, I have Brison.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hello. I used to focus only y'all hurts. I had
many gifts, but that was my own curse. But hold up,
wait a minute, stop that. I need to focus on now,
not that.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Get your mom right here and your money's like you,
what's going on with you today?

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Oh man?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
What's going on with me today? Oh man? What's going
on with me today? I got my.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Fiber in, got your fire ring?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Mostly, I got like I got like, uh what, thirty
two grams in right now, multi grain bagels from dunk
dunkin Donuts, toasted clean. I try to cream cheese today.
I don't know if I stick with that or not,
because as you said, it has a lot of fat
in it, the cream cheese. But true, getting plenty of

(01:03):
fiber is important and that's been helping. I've been doing
pretty good eating bis. I've been having been to the
gym in like three weeks, so I gotta somehow get
back on that. I think I need more sleep and
then I'll be able to get back in there.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Sleep is sleep is important, extremely important.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
What's going on with you today?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Not much was working, trying to work. I wanted to
talk about the the mishap today that they had.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, okay, yeah, the cyber not attack.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I guess an error they said there update was erroneous.
I guess CrowdStrike, which CrowdStrike is a cybersecurity.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Firm that a lot of people use.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
So it's it was kind of alarming, and it kind
of shows what could happen if something happens for those
that are living under rock. There was a I guess CrowdStrike,
the cybersecurity network had uploaded a update for Microsoft and
it crashed Microsoft. So anybody that used anything Microsoft was affected.

(02:23):
However that some people were affected more than others. Like
I heard the mall was closed because all the stores
registers used I guess a form of Microsoft and they
couldn't run their registers. Now we were affected, but I
could still have my email and teams was working unfortunately,
Like damn, you're gonna crash something, crash all of it,

(02:45):
like crash it all.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Like I still have meetings. I still had the email
up going them.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
So yeah, whoever did that, y'all was getting fired anyway,
you might as well just crash the whole thing, like
crash all that shit too. So I ain't had to
do no work today. But I think it's they're trying
to resolve it now. But like I said, it was various.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I think the biggest impact was the airport. I saw
a lot of planes grounded. I know, my nephew get
home safe. Uh he's stuck in l A right now.
He's a flight attendant. So they was nobody flying. I
don't think I saw the airport was was mashed up.
Just crazy eventful, an eventful event, I guess was it?

(03:32):
Did it affect you any Oh?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
I mean I was at a truck stop and uh,
their system was down. They couldn't take any cars. They
couldn't even take the rewards cars, and the and the
the shower rooms were they weren't being used because you
know those are the access to them is you know

(03:55):
electronic too.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
It really highlights what could go wrong like with our
system because we rely so heavily on electronics and that
stuff like computers and everything. I mean, there's nothing you
could do about it really, like we're in it now.
Like people are like, oh see, we can't like, we

(04:20):
can't go backwards.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
We're here.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
We just got to hold these firms more accountable with
our data. I mean, there's always data breaches going on
and all that stuff like that. That's terrible, but this,
something like this could have been catastrophic if it was
somewhere else. Like I'm sure our military operates a system
probably looped like it's probably a closed system most of it. Anyway,

(04:48):
I'm sure some of it probably uses an open system.
But you know, I don't know too much about that stuff,
but I'm hoping anyway that they use like a closed
system for like any weapons or any of that stuff,
like any any of the important ship should be on
the closed system, I would think, But then again, who knows.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Government is always the smartest good thing.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I was able to go down to the next truck
stop where they actually had a good old fashioned key
to get into the.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Charity that they probably get stuff every day for having
that good old fashioned key, and today was the day
that they were like, see, this is why we got
the key.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Far as news goes, like, Okay, the attempted assassination on Trump.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, that's a that's a big one.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
So I mean, I didn't want to talk about that,
and we can talk about it now, but I do
want a preference because I'm probably gonna be making some jokes,
but i do want to say that there was a
death and somebody else in critical condition, and I'm not
joking about that, no matter what his political views were,
and no matter you know why he was there and

(06:00):
and more than likely don't align with my political views,
but it still was a death. And you know, he
was a father and he was a husband, so he
left all those people behind. So I don't want to
if I do joke about it, I don't want people
to think that I'm joking about that particular situation.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
And there were other people I heard that were.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
That got hurt.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sending peace to them. But we can
get into the assassination intempt and the Maxi pad that
he had on his ear at the at the convention,
and a couple hours after he was golfing with nothing
on his ear.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
So this dude is sucking nuts.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I can't say that I was glad that the shooter missed.
I was glad that the shooter missed because because yeah,
that would have been like there would have been a lot.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
No I'm joking.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I never wish that on anybody, no matter how much
of an asshole and stupid fuck they are, I would
never wish death on them.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
So I just put that.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I'll say that, yeah, all the jokes, all the jokes
I'm about to make.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
And that would have just been crazy for us to
see too. That was live.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, that was wild because I was watching it.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I actually I for some strange reason, No, you know what,
I take that back. I wasn't watching it live, but
it was very shortly after it happened. It was on YouTube,
and we just me and my girl just got done
watching something and I turned I just turned on YouTube,
just because it's a habit, because that's what.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
I normally do. And I saw.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Like minutes ago, you know, so I was like, what's
going on now? I thought it was some bullshit, and
you know, they showed her, they showed it all, they
showed everything that happened, and I'm like, yo, this is wild.
So I continue to watch. But then later on you
saw the videos of like the dude climbing up and
everybody yelled. That's what makes me That's one of the

(08:13):
reasons why I preferenced it with what I preferenced it with, because.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
The ship looked fishy to me.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I'm not a conspiracist theory or a conspiracy theorists. I'd
to say I said that wrong, not as much as
I used to be when I was in my twenties.
But at the same time, he's just the narcissists that
would do something like this.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
So it just looked.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
It looked crazy at the very least, a lot of
people didn't do their jobs. Put it that way because
the videos I saw of there's mad videos of everybody
that was there taking videos. There's this one in particular
where it's a bunch of people yelling at the cops
and pointing, and you see the the guy's on the

(09:00):
roof and he's laying down and he's trying to hide,
and they're like, he's up there, he's up there, And
even the interviewer like they interviewed these people and they're like, yeah,
we was telling them, were telling the cops, were telling
the Secret Service that there's somebody up there.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
He's right there. You can see him. He climbed up.
And then there's a ladder that.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Was already there that like, why is there a ladder
already there, just you know, And I mean it could
have just been coincidence. I got my tenfoil hat on
right now. But but he would be just the narcissist
to do something like this and not care like it
was a real shooting.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Like we can say that it was a real shooting.
It wasn't fake.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Somebody's dead behind it, and and he got injured. Now
it's up for debate. He keeps saying he got shot.
Secret service said it was a cut from glass. Yeah,
he said it was a cut from the glass from
the prompter. Which it makes a lot of sense. Why

(09:59):
to do missed too, Like because there's there's a clear
prompter in front of him that has the words.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Of everything that he's going to say.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's always it's always like that, And and it's the
people looking at it can't see it.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well, you can see it.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
But I would suspect maybe that's why I missed, Like
it might have hit the prop and the bullet. You know,
the bullet changes your trajectory no matter how much. Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
But these are all theories. These are all allegedly.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Let me let me say that I'm just throwing ship
out there, but I do know that the Secret Service
in the beginning said that the cut was from or
the blood was from a cut from glass. Now I
need to hear from the doctors. I have not heard
from a single doctor saying anything. I'm sure they told

(10:54):
him not to say shit, but that's even fishy, Like
why ain't the doctor saying what it is? Like, I
haven't heard, and maybe they have. Maybe I'm just not
as uh, how the kids say. I don't know what
the kids say. I was about to say something that
I don't even know if the kids say that, but
tapped in tapped in as much as because I'm not

(11:16):
I'm not tapped in with politics or anything like I'm
I'm very interested in politics, and I usually stay tapped in.
But I'm just fatigued. So I don't want to talk
about this too long. Was it a cut? Was it
a shot? Because he's gonna milk this forever, like he's
gonna he got it and if he did get graized

(11:37):
in the ear by a fucking bullet, like, man, he
got some some shit to milk, like you do, got
some shit to milk, because I would probably talk about
that shit forever, like maybe not bringing up but somebody
be like what happing? Oh yeah, man, they were shooting
at me, like they were shooting at me. It was crazy,
Like he's gonna be he's gonna be hard hard are pressed.

(12:01):
But the calt like behavior of Maga, man, I just
don't understand it. I know everybody's different, everybody has different
political views, but like seeing all the people at the
convention with the pad thing on their ear, like that
shit is crazy to me, Like it's it's just it's
caught like behavior.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Really, Like who does that?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Like you think anybody back in the day, you think
people came, well, Kennedy actually got assassinated, but you think
people like came with rappings around their head to show
how muche to Kennedy and people loved him, you know,
like and people ain't do that.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Like it's I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
That shit is wild to me when I see it
because it just kind of shows the mentality.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
And it ain't everybody.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I'm not saying it is everybody, because I know Republicans
that don't fuck with him, you know, because the to
be fair, most people are kind of in the center anyway,
you know what I mean, Like Republicans are in the
center more right, but in the center, and most Democrats
are in the center but more left, like so it's

(13:15):
the extreme that we see a lot on both sides,
and but some of that, but he's the extreme like
him and his followers are the extreme right.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
So it's crazy. But yeah, some wild ship though.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, I like what you said, you wouldn't with stuff
on anybody, And like I said, I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, I see people.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
And you know he didn't die or he wasn't killed.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, yeah, I see people. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
It don't rub me the right way when I see
people saying. People make jokes and it's funny to me,
Like I laugh at some of them, like the joke
when the dude was like, uh, everybody to the one
dude and they had the date when it happened and
it's that dude that's like.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
And I'm like, that's wild and I laughed at it.
It was funny to me.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
But at the same time, I don't feel that way,
like I really don't, just because I don't think anything
good comes out of wishing death on anybody. I don't
care how huh.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, I don't know people that do ship the kids, I.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Don't want to go there. But yeah, I might. I
might wish them death on them. Maybe not wish death,
but they might deserve it. But uh yeah, I don't
know that we could go down a rabbit hole with that.
Let me rephrase that. I think there are some people

(14:55):
that may deserve death. But again, I'm I don't think
good car was coming out of me wishing death on them.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
What's funny is I don't know if I should say
this on the podcast, but we.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Can cut it out if it's too terrible, but just
say it's not terrible.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
It's just that the place it happened, that I go
there every week and deliver it. I went there the
other day and I just and there was two people
that I was delivering. There was an officer and there
was a lady from the kitchen, and I just fell in.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
I shouldn't bring that up.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Oh yeah, I probably wouldn't because that's in the vein
of political ship.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
And then I thought about it after I left.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
I'm like, how would I feel at the at the
if an ex president came to my town and somebody
from my town.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Tried to kill him. I think I might feel embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Because I mean, you're not responsible for that at all,
you know, And that's not a reflection to the whole town.
It's kind of like, you know, I mean, it's kind
of like our town, Like it's a lot of shit
that goes on that ain't great. But and I know
people do use it as a reflection. You know, I'm

(16:18):
not gonna be sit here and be super optimist and
just be like, oh yeah, ain't nobody.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Gonna feel any type of way.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
You know, people do look at towns like that, like
I'm sure there's a little stain on that town now.
But I don't think personally people should should look at
it personally or feel embarrassed personally. But everybody, but I mean,
you know you can't. You also, that's your emotions. So
if that's how you feel or how you would feel,

(16:48):
that's how you feel. Like it's not I don't think
it's too much that you can do about that. I
just don't think you.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Should feel that.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
There's been a lot of music out switch topics a
little bit. There's a lot of music out recently. I
was kind of like, damn, it's too much for me
to keep up with. There hasn't been that way in
a while, because most of the stuff that come out
I'm not I'm not.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Interested in.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
So I know, Marshall Ambrosious, is that how you said
her album came out a few maybe like a month ago? Now,
I mean we oh, and that's that's the elevent in
the room. We ain't have a podcast last week because
I was painting in our podcast area and I ain't
get done, so so we had to skip a week.

(17:36):
But we were going to talk about a lot of topics.
If we're laid on some stuff. We was gonna talk
about a lot of topics then, but we're talking about
them now. So anyway, Marcia and Brosi's album came out
like a month ago, and.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I really like.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
It a lot, and I listened I've been listening to
it a lot, and Dre produced it, but I didn't
even see the liner notes yet. But a lot of
the songs, or some of the songs, not a lot
of the songs. There's songs on there that definitely sound
like Dre. But there's a lot of songs on there
that don't sound like Dre like as far as production wise,

(18:14):
So I don't know if he had help.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I mean, I'm sure he had help.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
But I don't know if like other people produced those
songs and he was just like executive producing or given direction.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I don't know how much involvement he was in. Did
you hear that album?

Speaker 3 (18:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
No? Yeah? That album is. I really liked that album, and.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I really liked the last song, last song I think
is my favorite song.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
And she's like.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
She's killing that shit because she's doing interpolations of a
lot of old school R and B and other songs
throughout the whole song. But it sounds so cohesive, like
it's weird. I don't think I've ever heard anybody do
that before. Like there's so many songs, some of her songs,
some other people's songs that she resonates with her that

(19:08):
she talks about in the song.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
She talks about like like.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Listening to Marvin Gaye, Freddie Murcer, rig like like she
goes through like a list of Joe to C Like
she goes to a list and it's a gambit.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
She's like dr E and but just how she.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Does it, it sounds so cohesive, but each part sounds
like the fucking song, the original song, like it's it's.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Wild, and I just like, Yo, that shit is talent.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
She does her song like say yes, and then she'll
go into some other song and each song sounds like
the actual song, but it sounds like one Coesa song.
So I think that's just dope. But the whole the
whole thing is is good. I really like it. I've
been I've been jamming to it. As the old people say,

(19:57):
I'm one of the old people. Eminem came out with
a new album.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
You heard you heard that?

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, I heard it.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
What you think about it?

Speaker 4 (20:04):
With this album?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
So sometimes I listen to a new album right and
initially I have a negative reaction to it because I
need to spend more time with it, and and then
and then uh, eventually I feel differently, like, oh, I
actually liked this album, and that's why I want to
like like, uh, I want to not give reviews right

(20:30):
away on stuff, spend some time with it. Yeah. But
with this album, the opposite happened. When I initially listened
to it, I was texting you. I was like, now
this is a fucking album.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
I was the same way. Oh yeah, yeah, I feel
with you about to go ahead.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, I enjoyed it, and uh, I enjoyed the the the.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Metaphors and the rapping and the rhyming and the.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Lyrical ability, and there's some of this stuff he said,
the stuff he said on the album. Initially, I didn't
take that seriously and I even laughed a lot with
what he was saying. So and I was really feeling it,
you know. Then as time went on and I kept
listening to it, like certain things stood out to me

(21:20):
that I didn't agree with, Like and you know, for example,
the first thing that I listened to that, I was like,
you know what, I don't agree with that where he
was saying something about transgender people and I just didn't
agree where it's you know, part of what he was
saying and this is all under the guys I think

(21:44):
of this is slim shady saying it. But I still
think like, personally, I just felt like it's still irresponsible
because everybody's not going to look at it like that.
They're just going to say, you're saying this, and I
agree with that, or it may influence something in some way.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, I wasn't like his transgender comments. I wasn't feeling
the only thing he said on there that I agree
with was he said. He said, he's all four transgender rights,
but he then he went on to say, but I
wouldn't have sex with him or and I can't see them,

(22:28):
which I think he was referring to transgender women as
I can't pretend that they weren't men. And so my
thing about that is those those two things are valid feelings.
There's nothing wrong with those feelings, but to put those
in the they should have rights, but it's like contradicting
is they don't need his preference.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's what I was going to say, because I was
going to ask you, you know, you don't feel like
that's valid, but you said, you said, you're saying putting
it all together, yeah, it kind of validates.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well he said, yeah, first no, I can. I can
agree with that. I can.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
And it's funny because stuff that resonates differently with different people.
Like you said, there's people out there that feel that way.
So it's gonna resonate with them like that, like they're
gonna be like yeah, you know, like yeah, they ain't
even gonna care about the other part where they should
have rights, Like they're not gonna care about the bar.
And I don't know if it's me getting older or

(23:27):
I mean, I'm sure it plays a part. I don't
want to be the old man yelling get off my lawn,
but it happens, Like I can see that your taste
changes when you get older, and it's just something that
you can't I don't think you can do anything about it.
Because I felt the same way with you, Like the
first listen, I was enjoying the rapping and everything. And

(23:50):
one of the first things that kind of took me
aback was when he said, I don't really want to
say it, and when he said, are.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Don't know that there ares and.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
That's not true, you know what I mean, like people
with disabilities. And the reason it resonated with me is
because I'm a social worker for people with disabilities. So
that part like honed in, like I kind of even
though I'm you know, I think everybody should have rights,
like the other stuff didn't at first, didn't resonate with

(24:29):
me as hard as that one, because I do, you know,
I help people that have disabilities that people consider that,
you know, and there's some that are extremely smart. They
know they have a disability and they know they're different.
They know, you know, something ain't right. Even the ones

(24:51):
that may not be as high acuity have or I
shouldn't they have a high as high have an IQ,
they still know, you know, most of them still know that,
you know, they have a disability and there's something going
on and that people make fun of them, people say
stuff about them, people use that And that's why they

(25:12):
don't use that word no more, because it's derogatory rope word.
They use it as derogatory roape word as you can see,
like we've always used it growing up, like as a
derogatory word.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
And this just didn't know and that's a word that
actually offends the people that there's people are saying it about.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, yeah, and you know, I don't agree with Like
I've seen some campaigns say like this is our N
word and stuff I don't I don't like that. I
don't like when they try to equate different stuff to
the N word, because I don't think there is no
equation to that word in a derogatory sense when it's

(25:55):
considered derogatory, like me being in the field I'm in
that resonated with me and that it kind of turned
me off, Like I kind of turned that song off
because I was like he don't know what he's talking about, like,
and people might really think that like that you can
just say whatever you want, because that's what it sounds
like to me, Like he was saying, they ain't gonna
get offended because they don't know, you know. So, But

(26:18):
again that's under the guys, that's slim Shady, but I'm not.
I don't look at it like that, like it's still him,
you know, it's still I think he has dual personalities
that he that's what it it. That's what his album
is set up as, like he has this dual personality
that he can't control. But I don't believe that.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
But he did say that Slim City is just saying
things that he thinks but he wouldn't say.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Because even in that one song when he talks about
when he's he's being both and he's like, no, you
shouldn't do this.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's why I took this off this song.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Sometimes that's even worse than me, because it's obvious that
he understands. Like when you talk about Christopher Reeve, he's like,
I took it up. I took it off because he died.
And it's like, well fuck him, you know, Like I
don't know exactly the lyrics, but it was something like that, and.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Sometimes that's bad. I say all that to say I
think my taste has changed. Like I used to really
like eminem and that shit.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Like I used to really like that shit. Like I
used to be like, oh, yeah, he's bucking the system.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
He's being you know, he's saying whatever fuck he wants
to say, like it's cool, and it was at one time.
Maybe it wasn't to other people. And I think about
that too. That guy had a different mindset, so maybe
it wasn't ever cool. I mean, I mean, obviously people
protested him forever. However, now I just don't want to

(27:52):
hear that.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
I think I used to think he didn't really mean
the stuff. He's just saying the stuff to be shocking.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I thought he really meant it, Like, I didn't think
he was being shocked. I thought he was being mean.
But it was cool with me, you know, I was
all right with it because I'm like toughen up, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
But my views have changed a lot. You know.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I used to be like, why everybody getting getting offended
with everything? Like I used to be like that into
a certain degree, I'm still like that, but it's arbitrary
stuff that I'm like that, not not with stuff that.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Could be offensive. Like if first of all, I look
at it, I've changed.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
My views a lot, like I look at it now,
like if somebody tells you they're offended by something, they're
offended by. Like, if somebody tells you something, that's what
it is, right, you.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Like like people were quick to be like, why are
you always getting the offended of something?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
If it's offensive, it's offensive to them.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
That's that person you can't say, you know, you can't.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah, And the thing is you don't understand it because
you're not in.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
This Yeah, you're not in their shoes.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
And that's the thing, Like like that line might have
not resonated, you know.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
The other line resonated.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
With you, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
But that line you might have not even thought about
or even the.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Thing about it is, I'm glad you said what you
said because I didn't know that what you just said.
I could have thought that maybe what he was saying was.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
True, Okay, And that's the thing, Like that's and that's
the thing that you're saying too, Like people you know,
there's different people, so they might just look at it
like that and be like, oh yeah that's it.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
But yeah that and that's that's why it offended me.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
It And it wasn't like a first hand defensive It
was just like, Okay, you're saying something ignorant for one,
which I mean, you're on brand, like so I can
look past the ignorance, but then you're saying something that
one hundred percent ain't true, and it kind of it
is not only I mean, I know that's what ignorance is,

(30:06):
but it's not nowhere near true and you're saying it
like it is like so, I don't know, but there's
other stuff throughout the album that I just I don't know.
I just didn't want to hear and I don't think
I want to hear anybody say it.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
It's not just him, Yeah, it's like it's like, yeah,
it's like these are people like these you're saying certain
things as if these aren't people. It turns me off.
My favorite thing on the album is his verse on
the what you call it that versus crazy, like his

(30:43):
skill and the rhyming and the wordplay and yeah he's
still nice, Like he's still nice but yeah, the other
stuff I can't I can't get into. I love the
song to his Daughter. That's my favorite song on the album.
I've been hearing about that song, yeah from Fathers.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, I love that song, like and it's really like
that song is almost emotional for me because I've thought
about doing something like that and it kind of made
me think, like is he okay? But then I'm like,
maybe he's just doing it, you know, just to have
it because maybe he knows this is his last album.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
I didn't understand it because I mean I was like
I felt like he was doing it in the concept
of this album, like.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Oh, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I thought it was like he was saying, slim Jady's dying,
so when I'm not coming back?

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Maybe or both, I don't know, but maybe it was
like maybe he maybe he wrote it from the perspective
of you know, when he had the overdose.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, that's what I mean. He wasn't gonna make well.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
I thought it was the future personally, and that's what
made me think, like listening to it, because.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
He said I didn't get to walk you done in,
but he did.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Do that with Haley.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Did he walk her down? Yeah? Okay, well, yeah he was.
I mean it was at a wedding, but I ain't
know if he walked over. I don't know that. But yeah,
so I thought he didn't because maybe he came late.
I don't know. I don't know, but that would have
to be explored to see if he was, you know,
telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
But that's why I thought it was present day, like
he's making this song for when he dies so you
have something to listen to.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
And you know, I've.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I've dealt with like thinking and thinking like that, like
should I.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Like really like I was like, should I record a video?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I was going to record a video and put on
YouTube and schedule it for like twenty sixty you know
what I mean, Like like I thought about that, and
I still think about it, Like I still might do that,
you know, just just they have it pop up one
day like after I'm gone, like hopefully they're still around,
you know, and they might see it.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Hopefully you do still around.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
But I thought about that because I know how I
feel with people that are close to me that past.
You know, you feel like you want that last conversation
like you ain't get and I know it's always gonna
be like that, Like it's not you could have had
a whole conversation with them the day before and you're
still gonna feel like you want that last conversation, you know.

(33:38):
But yeah, that that song is deep and I think
that's to me, that's one of the best songs on
the album.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, I really, I really do you know, like the
hook on that one that because it's just in my experience,
like it's true what she's saying in the hook.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
It's funny too because I didn't know that was kyl
of Great for a long time, long time.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Because I listened to the album.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I was listening to it down here while I was painting, actually, and.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
I listened to it.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
I kept I probably listened to it like four times
in a row, and it did sound like her because
I listened to her albums. I listened to her sometimes.
But what's funny is when he said I started thinking,
I'm like when he said he got Skylar Great pregnant

(34:32):
in the song earlier, you know he said on the album,
because because when he said it, I was like, I
don't know exactly what he said.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
He said he gave I think he said he gave
a great hepatitus.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what he said. That's
what he said. That's wild. But when he said that,
I wanted.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
To be wondering how people feel that he worked.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
With Megan Fox had just recently said when she worked
with him, she was scared as hell, not because he
was you know, she said he was a gentleman, he
was very nice, but she was scared she was gonna
say something wrong, and she was gonna put her in
the album and in this song or something like the

(35:12):
next album that he did. So he said she said
she was walking on egg shells because of that, and
I thought it was funny. But then I thought about
it and was like, Yo, that's wild, because he does
do that. She was in one of his videos. They
broke up. Oh yeah, they broke up, but that might

(35:32):
have fueled some of it.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I don't know if it was before or after, but
she was in one of his videos.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, So I.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Don't know if he did that on purpose after or
if maybe that fueled some of it.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I'm not sure, but yeah, she.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Said she she was walking on egg shells the whole
time that she was around him, and she was like,
I don't want to do nothing wrong and piss him
off and then I'll be in this album the.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Next Yeah, but you ain't gotta do that.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
That's what I said. I was like, you ain't gotta.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Do that wrong.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Maybe they just take it as funny, like a joke
or something.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Well, he probably know he worked with her a lot,
so they probably know each other personally. She probably don't care.
She probably like whatever. She probably like this motherfucker again.
But yeah, that's that's my take on the album. I
think the rapping is is. He's still I keep seeing
I still keep seeing debates about him. I saw debate

(36:29):
the other day on TikTok. A girl said that he
was not in the top twenty five at all, and
I'm like, you bugging top twenty five. I can understand
if you don't put him in the top ten, top five,
not top ten, he's in the top ten, but of
what the top five of? She said, lyricists, And I'm like,

(36:51):
top twenty five lyricists, and that's the category you're gonna
pick and not put him in, Like that's wild to me,
Like you can, you can do other shit.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
You know, you might not like it. Subject matter.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
You might not like what he talk about, you know,
I mean that's one of the same thing. But might
not like his voice, you know how he sounds his delivery.
But you're gonna put him. You're gonna say he ain't
in the top twenty five lyricist, Like, that's that's ludicris.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
You know what's understaying.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
What's a guy I like to watch on YouTube? He was.
He was actually like seemingly turned off by you know
when eminem like starts rapping fast and gets real complicated
and you gotta really pay attention to get it. He was.
He was kind of like, uh, if you want to
do that, but I only retained a little bit of that.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
But yeah, I mean there's a lot of people like that. Yeah,
and I think I think there's a lot of people
like that. And there's a lot of people that and
granted he does do this at times, but there's a
lot of people that think he's just saying nonsense.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
He does do.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
He doesn't say nonsense. Sometimes he does rap.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
He does have songs where it's just fucking nonsense what
he's rapping about. But he has songs where it's not nonsense.
But you just can't understand it or take it in
I guess I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Or you got to listen to once or listen to
it closely, Like it's in that Shoel verse where he
was like, you know, consequences, you know, he says a
bunch of stuff like that sound like that, you know,
And but if you listen, if you really listen to it,
you can kind of like make it out. But it
kind of goes it's just like just just wonderful. Yeah,

(38:35):
when you hear it's like wow. But if you like
listen to it, you can kind of make it out.
But I like, as somebody who used to like, you know, rap,
like I really like that. I really like it's respective.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
No, that's my bag, Like that's what I like, you know,
and everybody ain't like that.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Some people constant compliments give me confidence.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Another couple albums came out.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Loupe came out okay and uh, Childish Game You Done
came out.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Loupe.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
You already told me your feelings on LUPA. You said
you don't like it. I didn't listen to it. I
tried to listen.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
To you said you turned it off.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
No, I tried.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
There was a video I guess maybe before the album
came out that I tried to listen to and I
just wasn't into it, Like I wasn't into it, I
think so honestly, I think I think a couple of things.
I think something happened that disappointed me with Lupe. Maybe
a couple of things. And I don't know if that's

(39:45):
that's in my mind, but it's like I feel like
I was disappointed with the whole Royster five to nine
in him thing where the podcast ended, because they got
into their thing, you know, and I'm like I expected
expected both of them to be more involved than that

(40:06):
to end the podcast because they want to have a
rap battle, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, Well, Royce did say there's no correlation between murder
and maturity, which is wild.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
But I wasn't as disappointed in Royce because eventually the
way Royce responded is he didn't even go too deep
end like he didn't even like he responded. But and
then also I seen an interview after that where he
was like.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
That's why he stopped responding with records after that first
after that one he put out, Yeah, roy said he
just didn't want to do it.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
And he even said he was on the Joe Budden
podcast and he was like, I like Loupe, you know,
and he respected even if even if Lupey felt he
was wrong, he respected that Lupe stood on whatever his
his stance.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, whatever you felt.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
But I was just disappointed because I I just expected
more from Loupe than that, Like as a fan of
I mean, he's human, you know, but I just just
just him being so even him count some of the
comments he made about the drink and Kenzler more just

(41:22):
that the rep whole rap thing and I'm so great
at rapping thing being so important to you.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
This was like, like, I don't know, disappointing to me.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I understand because I get like that sometimes. That's why
I don't follow nobody on Twitter no more like like people.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I barely follow, I got.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
I got a few people I like that I following,
I g because it's less talking. But even then, like
I see some shit posting and I'm like this motherfucker,
so and it does. It does affect the way you
look at the people. So I can understand that it
just didn't affect me that much because I just looked
at it as a conflict between two.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I mean, I guess they.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Weren't friends friends, but there's a conflict between two people,
and maybe that was the problem that they weren't like
really tight friends friends. But he's had conflicts, Race has
conflicts with Eminem like they pieced it up. But I mean,
and I ain't saying that to say that it's his fault.
I'm just saying that, you know, you being a tight,

(42:22):
tight friend doesn't really it doesn't always help with those conflicts,
but it can. I but I didn't let that affect
me for some reason.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
With Lupe.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
His last I don't know if it's an album mixtape.
I liked some of the songs on this album, and
it's funny. It was the opposite again for me. When
I first heard it, I heard it two times in
a row in the car. It's a short album, so
I don't know where I was going, but it wasn't
far where I was going, and I ran through the

(43:01):
album like twice in a row, and I think, like
forty minutes. I really liked it. I definitely liked the rapping.
But then when I listened to it again, I got
in the car and went to work and was listening
to it, and I started skipping some songs, and I
think it was the music on those songs because he's

(43:24):
spitting on like every song he's spitting.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
But I don't know. For some reason, the music.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Wasn't resonating with me after the first or second listen.
I don't think it's a bad album. I actually liked
the album. I see a lot of people saying that
it's really good, like they really like which I'm surprised.
I know people, well, I know his fans fuck with him,
but it seems like a lot of people don't fuck
with Lupe for some reason.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I could be wrong. It just feels like that to me.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Like on social media, I don't see people talk about him.
I see people leaving like crazy comments on his pictures.
I don't know what that is. I don't know if
it's because he's beef with those people's fans. I mean,
those people are who's fans of artists they beef with
or what. But it just seemed like like a lot

(44:15):
of people don't fuck with him like that, and that
could be maybe he felt that way too, so maybe
that's why he sometimes seems extra to me when he
responds to stuff a chip, like you have a chip
on your shoulder. It's sort of like what Kanye does,
but he goes off the deep end with stuff, but
Loope does it a different way.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
But he still seems to me.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
And I can't say I was gonna say he overreacts,
but it's his reaction, Like you can't say somebody's overreacting
because they don't know how they feel.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yeah, I don't know what in his life he's experienced
to make him say, you know, kind of like saying
like the line about Royce where h basically he said
he wish you would have died, Like, yeah, that's not cool, right,

(45:06):
but yeah, I don't like you said. I don't know,
like for instance, like when Ryce called him a bitch,
I don't know, like.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, that could have triggered something. And that's the thing.
You don't know what people went through in their lives.
Maybe he's been bully maybe you know, growing up. I
don't know, like this is all legit, uh or stuff.
I'm just thinking.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
But it's like I think they both in that instance
on that line, they both offended each other.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
I think sometimes when I see Lupe get into it
with people, and again I don't want to diminish his feelings.
I try to step carefully. It feels like an overreaction.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Though, But I mean, who else has he oh uh Cutty.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Right, yeah, Cuddy, There's been a couple of people I think.
I don't know if he got into it with Mickey Fact.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
I thought that was man it is, but maybe maybe
they were just like maybe they just got into it,
you know.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Not real like like not a real like maybe they were.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Just arguing, but it was like friends arguing.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
But seeing from the side, inn that's how you look,
you know.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Another thing for me is he had it seemed that
he wasn't rapping for a long time, so I didn't
even know he was still.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
See I've gotten his last few mixtapes, and that's not
been that long ago, like during COVID okay some stuff out, yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Not too long after his last album.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, I don't think. Okay, yeah all right, And and
he was spitting on there.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
But again he's talking that ship that some people don't
want to hear, you know, that educational type ship. So
but again I think the album's dope. I think it's
worth for listening to tell you the truth.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Might be for everybody. Of course, nothing is.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
Maybe I'll give it a listen. I used to his
first three albums.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I really really yeah, I did too, and.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Then I still even paid attention after that a couple
more albums.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
So yeah, he used to be.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
I thought he was a genius, like especially the first
two albums, and I was mad at his label for
interfering with the third one, even though it still came
out kind of good. Yeah, yeah, but I was like, man,
like lead that alone, like let him create.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, I think he is. Like he's a lyrical genius
for sure, like in musical I don't care what anybody says,
like his lyrical ability and not just lyrical ability, the
coherence that is in his verses, you know what I mean,

(47:53):
and shit he's talking.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
About, and.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
How much sense some of the ship makes even still
being like extremely lyrical, Like that's not an easy thing.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
It's time for me to be immature because you're saying
all of that. But who was better him or Royce?
Who won? And that ex changed? Who you like better we?
As far as what they put out.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I don't know, I'm biased. I think.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah, I'm voiced by I ain't gonna lie I'm rooics biased.
I think Royce is one of the nicest ever and
that song he put out was a technical display and
he did that on purpose, but I think it didn't
get the uh it didn't be It.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Wasn't received as he wanted it to.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
And I don't know if that had something to do
with his him stopping, you know, kind of like That's
why I said before, I was like, did it first,
like when they thought I did gold, But I don't
know if that had anything to do with it. But
I just think it was too technical for people, like
they didn't want to hear that ship.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Yeah, some people like respected that.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
You know, I respected that ship, and I thought that
shit was insane.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
I think me personally, I think I like Lupe's song
more and it was more direct.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
I think it was more direct.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
That's the thing, Like his was Royce's wasn't. I mean,
it was direct, but you had to think about that,
you know, sometimes battling you don't want all that ship.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
I mean, look at hit him up.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
You know that ship is so rudimentary, the lyrics half
of us talking.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
But but it does as two technical rappers. You know,
maybe was trying to prove a point.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah, that's what I think. That's why I think he
did it. I think he did it for him, like listening.
That's that's what I think it was. But I just
think it was too technical. Pea always been nice. People
be sleeping, But I mean he's been getting he's I'm

(50:12):
glad Royce is still in the game. Like Roy's been
in the game for a minute, like a long time,
and I'm glad he's still Like as he got older,
he started getting more accolades and and more respect from
his peers.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
I think so. I mean slaughter House helped that a
lot too.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
That's that makes me think, like imagine if he didn't stop.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Back and forth, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Because
I I mean they're both nice, like they both hard
to handle lyrically, and they both know they know what
the fuck they're doing.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Like they know what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I'll say that because people can rap and people can
can be racol but it don't always come together right,
don't always make sense, and both of them have a
high IQ when it comes to rapping.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
But I think, you know what now that I think
about it, like, I think the reasons that I like
Lupez so much. It had nothing to do with better
ONLN he just was nice without like I didn't need
like he was nice without saying he was nice. That's
how I felt about him first two hours. He was
the best without even saying it.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yeah, when I heard him on Kanye, Yeah, I'm like,
I like, I don't know who the fuck this dude is.
But even though this is like a party song, like
you could tell you know what I mean, like you, Yeah,
that's the first thing I heard him on I think,
and I was like.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Who the fuck is this dude?

Speaker 1 (51:49):
And I actually it's weird because I thought he was
just gonna come and go to tell you the truth?
Because I was like, who this random ass dude on
his song? He nice, though, but he ain't going nowhere,
like because I ain't hear him on nothing else. You know,
I didn't hear nobody fucking lone BOWLD. I ain't know
he was cool with Jay Jay executive produced that one

(52:10):
album for a couple of albums, a couple of albums.
But yeah, he's nice. So let's move on to Childish
Gambinos album. Now, I haven't heard this, but I know
you have. And that's your boy. That's your mains. Yeah,
I know what you think of that.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
I'm a fan of child to Scam being a Ordonald
Clever both period.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Like, yeah, me too.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Uh, you know, I was just thinking about this earlier. Now,
I haven't consumed everything he's been a part of, Like
I never got into thirty Rock like that, or like
I watched a few episodes or Swarm. I didn't want
to watch Swarm the girl killing.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Oh that was good.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
That was good.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
But those are the kind of the only things that
I've seen, you know, mister and missus Smith, all of
the movies he's been in.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Mismith, I like that. Yeah, I like that too. I
like that too.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
At first, I didn't think I was gonna like that
because I was like, why ain't fucking with it?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Like just leave it alone, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
And it's stupid that they know about each other. But
I like the way they did it. They really did it.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
I think they did it right, and I like I
like the like I just like the combination.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Of him and the Asian woman I don't know her
name apologized hat calling people by their nationalities, but yeah,
I mean that was part of it.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
But and the action was good the action was great.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Even back to Derek Comedy. I went back that far
and seeing the stuff on YouTube with this comedy group.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Oh yeah, yeah something.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Yeah, they did a bunch of sketches on YouTube, and
it's like they're very good, very good. Uh what else?
Like the stand up comedy all of that, and didn't
like So He's child's game being on has six projects.
This is the sixth one, and let me just get
to it. Respect to Donald Glover, he's one of my

(54:12):
favorite favorite creatives, but that's never good. I don't like
the album. I don't like the album. This is his
only album I don't like.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
I mean, that's a good that's a good track record. Yeah,
you know, it's just I don't like everything everybody does.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Yeah, and my experience, I like one song, what one
and the Possible.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
It's probably hard to admit that too, right, Yeah, I
feel it probably pains you.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I mean, I know how. I'm just saying that because
if NAS came out with an.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Album that I don't like, like, I don't know how
we feel like it would make me feel weird.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
I mean I don't feel weird. It is what it is.
I gotta be honest with myself, but I don't want
to offend you. I'm not that he's going to see this,
but I don't want to, you know, offend him.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
You know, No, that's understandable world artists.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
They both understand people's art are extension of them. So
it don't matter what it is, like, it's going to
be offensive somebody. They don't like it, right, But I mean,
it's honest. You know why you don't like it? You
ain't hating, No, that's I think that's all you can ask.
Because everybody's not gonna like everything that you do. So

(55:29):
you know, I just hate the people that hate for
no reason. They don't even know why they don't like it,
you know.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
You know, I want it to like it, but it's like,
and here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
All of the equality of the music and stuff sounds good,
but it's just that I don't like like most of
the songs. Like seventeen tracks, I think, damn and I
like one for sure and the possible. The one I
like it's called No Excuses, and that's mainly because the
instrument on it, it's just a vibe. It's like a

(56:02):
jazzy vibe. It's like seven minutes and forty three seconds.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
It's you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna listen to it.
I wish I would have listened to it, because I
was joking earlier saying I probably like it because we
like different We we like different stuff a lot. Yeah,
it's hilarious that that how we go back and forth
with stuff sometimes. But yeah, I'm I'm gonna check it
out just to see what it what it is what

(56:27):
you do.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
And for me, it's like, okay, so this is how
I put it to you earlier.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
To me, it just what did I say?

Speaker 3 (56:37):
It's just dang, I forgot what I said.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
To me. It just sounded like so to me, the
other albums meant more.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
The other YEA said that it just sounds like he's
just like vibing like that product like resonated with you.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Yeah, like I wonder, I wonder if it's the the
chance to rap her like kind of thing where you know,
you get real happy and like your music is not
as interesting maybe to other people, like maybe he's just
happy with his wife and kids and uh, you know.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
And that's what that happens.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
I mean, it's just like with jay Z's album four
four four, like there's people that didn't like that, and
I don't want to hear that ship.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
I don't want to hear his family, Like, I don't
want to hear him.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I gotta understand not being not relating to the millionaire
and talk billionaire talk now, but I understand not relating
to that.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
But a lot of people are like, I don't want
to hear that.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Let's talk about you know, you got the people that's like,
why you keep talking about selling drugs? And you got
the people that's like, why you stop talking about selling drugs?
Like because I don't know more, you know, but I
feel I feel that, and that's what happened. That's what
Snoop said, was like, it's hard for me to rap,
like when I'm just chilling, Like what.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Am I talking about? Going to these different that's like,
you know, the only talk about something. I think.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
That's why I went Snoop with out that other album
he had. It was like a compilation album with mad
people on it, which it was a dope album. But
not to get too sidetracked, but yeah, bandos Stone in
the New World, that's what the album is called. Yeah
that's the movie too, right, Yeah, Okay, so I thought I.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Was, so this is I think this is like the
soundtrack to the movie too, but it's an album. Oh
but yeah, that's the thing where I feel like, I
felt like I felt like the album wasn't about nothing.
Now I might be wrong, but I didn't get really
anything like a central theme. Like I kind of got

(58:46):
that from the other albums, like they stood for something,
they were about something, they meant something you know what
I mean to me, or they just meant something period,
and they showcased uh ability, his abilities, different abilities each project,
and this one doesn't. I don't really get anything new
from him or this Like even though this is different,

(59:09):
this album is different from his other album, it kind
of like doesn't showcase a different tone of his you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
I understand, I understand exactly what you mean. And it's
like and that that's you know, that's really concrete. Like
I don't know if many people could put that in
the words, but that that's that's real.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Other ones seemed more artistic to me, like they were
like like they had a like a central theme or
feel to him.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
You know, Now do you think he do you think
this is on purpose? Because the music goes with the movie.
And maybe that's why the music is a certain way,
because he something that goes with the movie, because.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Yeah, it's a lot of it is really a lighter feeling,
like and I did hear him say he wants to
do something that's just fun for people, you know. I
did hear him say that, So it could have something
to do that. But we haven't seen the movie yet,
so we're just going on, Yeah, we wouldn't know what
the music is. Yeah, and actually there's skits, there's pieces

(01:00:23):
of the movie throughout the Oka Click. I'm a big fan.
I hope, I hope I liked the movie. But I'm
a big fan and I've liked every other Charter's game
be No Project, but this one I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
So you been watching any of the Olympic trials, any
Olympic stuff? Okay, yeah, I've been watching. I love the Olympics.
I used to love the Olympics when I was younger.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I don't know if everybody feel like that or I'm
not sure where my love of the Olympics came from.
But I used to just love I know, my cousin,
my cousin Jay shut out Jay. He uh, he used
to love the track and field, so he would watch it.
I would just watch it because I'd be I'd be with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Him or whatever. But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
I don't know how I started loving Olympics just because
I think because there was the sports that I've never
seen before. You know, there's breakdancing and Olympics this year.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Yeah, breakdancing is in the Olympics. First year, I thought
that was dope. Like see hip hop is everywhere everywhere
and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Simone Bolls, Oh man, Yo, she's a beast.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
She I was just looking at her work ethic or
thinking about I guess thinking about her work ethic because
it can't really I mean you can see it, of course,
but like she messed up on the balance beam and
that's like one of her strongs than she ain't mess
up where she's not gonna go on the Olympics or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
But she made a mistake and you could tell like
she was fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
She was mad as fuck when she got over that
shit and they was interviewing her and just like seeing
that passion after all the shit she's accomplished.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
She like the no one gymnasts in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
She they them band shit that she can do because
can't nobody else do it and it's dangerous so they're
not allowed to do it, and like stuff like that,
which is crazy to me. That's that's insane, Like you
gonna ban a trick because can't nobody do it and
then they might get hurt trying it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
But she can. That's fucked up. That's fucked up people
whoever you are that did it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
But anyway, just like seeing her work at it, Like
I think that's my biggest thing. We can watch pro athletes,
we can watch college athletes, but it's something about the
Olympics that bring out any Olympic athlete, like I guess
because you're on the world stage and just I don't know,
it's just a passion and something for their craft because

(01:03:06):
it's it's only every four years and it's a big
accomplishment to be Olympic medalists and just to see these
people that are like elite in their sport and a
lot of sports that don't get a lot of coverage,
a lot of stuff, I mean curling and stuff like that,
like stuff that you won't see regularly, like you can

(01:03:29):
probably find it sometimes. But I mean even breakdancing, like
having breakdancing, Like where else do you want to see
breakdancing that where you can win a gold medal in
the Olympics, you know, like it there's not a breakdancing league.
I'm sure there's there's well I don't know if there's
a breakdancing league, but it's not national. Put it that way,
like you ain't turn on ESPN and seeing breakdancing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
But these people that are at the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Top of their breakdancing game can go display their their
shit to the world, you know. So, man, I don't know.
It's just something about the Olympics. I love watching the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
That's interesting, Like I kind of want to see that
and wonder how they judge it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
And yeah, I don't know anything about it. I don't
know how they judge it. I don't know what the
scoring is. I'm waiting to see, waiting to see because
I've been like I said, I've been watching all the
other stuff like Shikari Richardson killing it in track. Just
just a lot of a lot of things, even in basketball.
I watched the basketball game the other day and they

(01:04:32):
were getting who did they play? They played whoever Djokovic
is from, because he played for the other team and
they were neck and neck and the other team was good.
I don't even know what team that is. I'm sorry,
I hate that I can't remember, but they they were.
They were balling, both both teams America and then and

(01:04:55):
then it was just like another notch and I'm like,
we still the best in the world at basketball, even
though a lot of foreign people are great, but they're sprinkled.
You got a bunch of NBA players playing sprinkled great
foreign players like they still.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
In USA has been beaten, you know, in years past.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
But just watching that game, it was crazy because they
were neck and neck, tie tie game, I think until
the half.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Then carry out there shooting shit from half court. Damn near.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Lebron out there wallin like crazy shit stuff he was
doing when he was twenty, like behind the back dunking
and all the all the craziness, and they got it.
I think they won that game byt like thirty five
points or something like that. But yeah, so the Olympics.

(01:05:50):
Watching the Olympics was great. You've been watching any of
Bronni's games.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
No, I've been hearing a little bit about.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Him yeah, he was. He was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
He was being trash the first few games. No offense.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
I mean, I guess it's hard to not take offense
to somebody saying he's trash. But it's not personal. I'm
just saying the way he was playing was trash and
he wasn't great, and everybody keeps talking about it. But
then the last couple of games, I saw the highlights too,
because that's all dudes, watch the highlights on YouTube. I
don't know where to watch full G League games at

(01:06:24):
probably NBA TV. Oh the G League game. Yeah, he's
in the G League, right, Well, no, it's summer League.
It's summer League. It's not G League. I'm sorry, it's
Summer League. Like all the newer people, people that need
some work, they put them in the league, so they play.
It's like the teams, you know, it's the Lakers and

(01:06:44):
whoever and the you know, the real team names. But
it's just like all the new draftees and all the
people like the end the e bench, people that need
work and so they're playing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
So, yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I think a couple of games he had like zero
points and maybe a couple couple assists or something. But
he couldn't like he was like, oh for thirty like
the first five games and then the game the next
game he was I think he got twelve points, a
couple of assists, and the most recent game or the
most recent highlights I've seen, I think he scored sixteen

(01:07:20):
and like two assists, a couple couple of steals. So yeah,
it looks like and he was looking way more comfortable.
I think he was super nervous, you know, not saying
that he's gonna be spectacular star right away, because like
I said, I think he needs some work. But everybody

(01:07:42):
can't wait to crap on him, Like everybody can't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Wait to be like, yeah, I told you I you
ain't shit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
That's what was going on doing doing these games. So
I'm hoping he gets his footing and he gets.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
It going too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Yeah, I just want to improve everybody wrong, Like hard work,
hard work. I mean he got talent too, but work
or be talent. So you put in that work. And
now he got access to everybody, not just his dad,
you know what I mean. Like I'm sure his dad
was working him out, but now I got the best
of everything to get out there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
So yeah, I think it will be all right, cook.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Up culture and is it worth it anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
I don't know about it. Like I can't talk about that,
so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I don't know. You know, it's past my time of
being out there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
So yeah, I'm thinking about Yeah, keep this in. I'm
thinking about falling back from it, man, because you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Know, I can imagine it's a lot, especially as you
get older, there's a lot of juggling, a lot of
I mean, the good thing is you're single and you
know it ain't like you're doing anything wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Or like in my case, like the things can get
a little dry right now, a little dry.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Right there, dry spell.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
So it's like that, you know. Let me I don't
think about getting off the apps. I lose a lot
of sleep, honestly, like being on certain.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Apps that ain't good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Yeah, and now like it used to be more beneficial.
I was meeting people or hooking up, but now I
ain't really been meeting people, so like, well, I'm doing this.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Let me go to sleep somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Words need to sleep. Sleep is important, talk about sleep.
Sleep is important for your health.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
I definitely like I've been, like I said, I haven't
been to the gym in three weeks. I feel like
if I start getting more sleep, I be more motivated.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Go to the gym and it the help and it
a work like the gym session is trash if you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Go to sleep, Like if you don't sleep, if.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
You don't have great sleep after you work out, it's
not going to be beneficial.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Like you're just working out for nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Basically you might lose a little weight or whatever, but
for your body to recover, you need to sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Oh no, I'm gonna I'm gonna sleep after that workout.
I'm gonna be tied. Okay, I ain't gonna feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Sleep all night and you sleep for a long time,
like eight hours, at least seven hours. I mean everybody's different.
Everybody's different. I mean there's some people that can get away.
I think it's a fallacy that you have to sleep
eight hours, like they always like you gotta get eight hours.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
I don't think so. I think everybody's different.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Everybody's body is different, but you should at least get
like seven, seven to nine. I think some people need
more sleep, some people need less sleep, but you're getting
any less than seven or even six.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I've been there for years so yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
I think I'm kind of kind of kind of they're
on the weekends especially.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Less sleep, I think. So see, when I'm off, I'm
getting all to sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Because I'm trying to have fun before I got to
go back.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Yeah, I mean, I want to have fun too, but
but I'm gonna get I'm gonna sleep until eleven o'clock,
like if I can, if I don't have nothing to do,
which is most weekends, I'm not doing much before eleven.
I'm not a morning person at all, but I stay
up late, so I kind of balance it out by
sleeping late.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
I mean, but you know, now, not thinking about it,
I'm forty two. I've had my fun out here in
these streets.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Yeah, your fun in these streets.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Maybe maybe I should, you know, maybe it's fall back,
just like I said, like, I can't do it forever.
Well some people can. Some people do. Everybody's different. If
it's if it's serving you, yeah, that's it. It's not
serving me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
That's that's a good point. And that's what everything. You know,
everybody's different. Everybody has different levels of whatever. And but
the thing that you gotta ask yourself is whatever that
is is a servant and If it ain't, that's it's
time to change.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Give me some toys. I already got a couple of toys,
adult toys. Maybe getting get a couple more, you know
what I mean, because I can be consistent with myself.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Okay, Well, I mean, hey, you gotta do what you
gotta do. You gotta lots of ship drink, gotta worry
about with the toys.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
So I mean, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Hey, that's true. It's all. It's all good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
In your experience of when you have been single and
being out in them streets, have you ever like, have
you ever been in this, well maybe not in the
who hook up culture when you're like, you know, you know,
you're communicating with somebody for the first time and they

(01:13:02):
actually send you a video of them doing stuff with
other people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Yeah, I ain't never experienced that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Oh yeah, I'm like, oh man, yeah, I've experienced that
shoot times.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
And I'm like, man, like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
See, I don't know nothing about hookup culture.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Like, ok you know, I mean I think that I
would assume that's fairly new, okay, or last maybe ten years,
eight years.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Maybe. Actually I don't think it's new. Actually I don't
think it's now. I mean maybe it's always been. I
mean the means. Let me put the means of it.
So you got phones, you can send pictures, you can
do all that shit, like all that is new new work.
I mean it's been around for years. But when I
was single, it was going out like you had to

(01:13:47):
go out and meet people like it was. It wasn't,
you know, I mean, you still had apps.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Ain't gonna sit here like I'm old as hell and
just been been in relationship for twenty years. It ain't
that like I had. There was apps, but it wasn't.
I don't think it's to the degree that it is now.
So I'm kind of glad that I ain't out there
because it looks like looking from the outside in, it

(01:14:13):
looks like a mess that they drew. It looks like
it's a lot of work and there's a lot of
I don't know, it looked crazy personally, I wouldn't even well, no,
that's what I mean. It's easier, it's easier access, but
it just looks it just makes it just seems like
that's more work, like because it's like you said, you

(01:14:36):
ain't sleeping, you know what I mean, it's more it's
more in your face, you have more opportunity, so you're
always it's kind of the paradox of choice, like you well,
sort of sort of the paradox of choices really when
you have too many choices and you can't pick one

(01:14:56):
because there's too many.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
So you just like it freeze like you freeze up.
That's kind of paradox. It's a choice. But that ain't
what this is all the way. But it seems.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
I don't know, it just seems like it's a lot.
I just look at people like so on social media,
and I see what people say when they're out there
and they're single and they're just trying to whatever, Like
it's it seems.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Like a lot. There's a lot of stuff going on, what.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
You mean, because when you say that, I'm like, no,
it's not a lot. It's actually like kind of simple.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Well I guess it is, but that's that's a lot,
Like that's a lot you're dealing with. You're dealing with
a lot of different people at different times, and there's
a lot of stuff, Like there's a lot of stuff
that comes with that, you know, So it just seems
like too much, Like even if I think even if
I was single right now, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
I wouldn't be like that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Because it just seems like it's just too much. There's
a lot of shit going on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
And then like, honestly, if you do have all these obtions,
like can you really I mean it depends on the person,
maybe can you really keep up with all of it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
And then I'm like, that's I mean when I'm saying
it's a lot, it just seems like it's too much.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
And then but maybe to us because I'm forty two.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Yeah, I mean I'm old like people younger people was
probably they grew up in it. This is how they
meet people like, this is what they do, so they're
probably used to that shit just like anything else, Like
you grow up in it. It's not it doesn't look
foreign to you. I mean, that could be why it's
a lot of young people that ain't in relationships because

(01:16:46):
of this. You know, it's a lot of young people.
I see a lot of young people that's like I
ain't getting in a relationship, Like I ain't getting in
a relationship like women and men. It's a lot a
lot of young people that I know that don't dat
since opa not even that they just don't date. I
see a lot of a lot of people, a lot
of teenagers that don't date. They just get right to it,

(01:17:08):
not even that like they they I mean they might
be event like every now and then, but I see
a lot of them that's just not like they're not
they're not like actively participating in dating and hooking up
with people.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
And you know, I can relate to that, like because
I'm at that point well hooking up, Like I'm into that,
but I'm not into.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
Relationships right now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
I feel like I'm good if I never be in
a relationship again, I'm good. I don't necessarily want it. Yeah,
I hear that and the things that the negative things
that can come with it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
I think that's why I was like, if I ever
if even if I was single, like being going through
life like after you get you get older, Yeah, over
what do again? Like you know that's that's it's a lot,
it's a lot to go with it. So I can
understand somebody not wanting to and.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
I know there are benefits of having somebody like.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Yeah, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
I mean, I've been in love can it can be great,
But then I'm also when it goes wrong, I'm going
through that too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Yeah, definitely, I mean it's definitely not for the week.
And I think that's the other thing, Like these days,
a lot of the younger people are all about convenience,
and this shit ain't always convenient, you know what I mean,
Like this shit ain't always flowers. So it's as soon

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as that stuff comes. Because I was like that back
in the day, like soon as soon as it's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Not that, I'm out, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
But you got to mature sometimes and be like you
gotta really sit down and with yourself and ask yourself
what you want to do.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Well, I mean, I know myself too. Also another reason
is I have certain issues so far as insecurity, jealousy,
like to where if I'm in a relationship, it can
be kind of like self torture, like misery I'm putting myself.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Oh no, I've been there too, Okay, So I can't
understand that. Like it took me a long time to
get out of that, like a long time, a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Of work because I used to be jealous. I used
to be.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
I mean I can even say somewhat controlling, you know.
I didn't look at it as controlling, but it was
all stemming from jealousy and insecurity that I was controlling,
but like it took a long time to get away
from that in some therapy. But now i'm good, like

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and you're right when you're like that, like that can
torture yourself every little thing you could torture yourself with that,
I'm good now like I don't. And I think a
lot of that comes with trust too, Like if you
trust somebody wholeheartedly, it's like whatever, And that's the thing,

(01:20:15):
because somebody could, uh, you know, really technically they could uh,
what's the word I'm looking for, they could betray your
trust anywhere anytime.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Like it's you know how people be like I don't
go to the club, you going?

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
You know, they could go to work, Like they could
go to the grocery store. Like, if you're that insecure,
it could happen anywhere. But if you really trust a person,
you're not caring about anywhere, you know what I mean.
It's the same thing. It's two sides of the same coin.
And that feels good to not feel like that, you

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know what I mean. But also I think some of
that is on the other person too, like if they're
doing stuff that made you not trust them, that's something else.
That's but sometimes sometimes the stuff they're doing, your insecurities
is making you not trust them, not because of what
they're doing, Like yeah, or it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Could be like you have insecurity, that's insecurities that stem
from what's someone in the previous relations.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Yeah, and that's that's hard, that's baggage, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Or you can have insecurities that stem from stuff you
are currently.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Doing, that too. That too.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
There's a lot of a lot of people that have
insecurities because I know a lot of men like that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
I'm not saying women aren't like that, but there's a
lot of men that are doing stuff they ain't supposed
to be doing, and then they turn around and like, well,
what are you going here? Because they know they went
there and did whatever they did, so then they're like, well, why.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Are you doing why are you going there? Why are
you doing that?

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Like I see that a lot with men.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Like I said, not saying that women don't do it,
but I'm just talking about men that i've seen, you know,
do that because they were doing ship you know, and
so that insecurity is partially guilt. Yeah, I'm glad I'm
free from that because, like that's the worst. And I

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know exactly what you mean, Like, I know exactly what
you mean, like that jealousy and ship man, like it
feels it feels good to be in this place where
you don't you know, don't get jealous like that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
I experienced it from not being in a relationship. You
experienced it while you're in a relationship. So you you've
become free from that, yeah, while still being in a relationship. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
And I know a lot of people that think jealousy
is supposed to come. Now there's a certain piece, like
you know, when you're supposed to be jealous, like if somebody,
you know, somebody was advancing in front of your face
to your woman and and she was reciprocating someone like
that different, I think you have a valid it's her

(01:23:02):
and a valid jealousy. There's a valid jealousy there. I'm
not talking about valid jealousy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
But you know I've.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Experienced, like just insecurity jealousy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Yeah, me too, you know, me too, Like I want
there to be a camera on you on your forehead,
and I want to see everything.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
And you know that jealousy and that's controlling, you know,
And jealousy goes with control. And that's why I think
a lot of men are controlling because of the jealousy
and because of them knowing them, knowing what they did,
knowing how they conducted themselves in relationships.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Now, I have been in a relationship where I was
on the phone all the time with somebody. I was
told to chat all the time with somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
So you felt like it was all right, It wasn't
doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
I think. Yeah, I think in ways that was that
seemed we both had insecurities and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Y'all both was on the phone all the time because
of that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Yeah, But honestly, let me say, just in case the
person is watching, they had insecurities because of my some
of my actions.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Okay, so that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
That's good insight that you can you can understand that
that you've done ship that caused them to have insecurity.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's good insight.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
But it's like, okay, because we were both like like
like like that the relationship kind of to me worked
in a way and less in a way.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
But also yeah, because y'all both were suspicious about each other.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Yeah, it's like what do you doing? Okay, let's be.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
On the phone four hours. Yeah, you know all day,
like you're on video chepe. You see the the person
is doing and they they they were in a situation.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Where that ain't good. That's not healthy though.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
Yeah, but see eventually, yeah, that started to show. The
unhealthy parts of it started to show. So when like
we couldn't be off the phone, you know what I
mean without somebody think.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that kind of like reinforced it. Probably, yeah, yeah,
because the only time you knew for sure was when
you was on a phone.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
But then also to me, that started to develop a
kind of trust in that person. But see, what I've
found out in relationships is even once you get to
a point where you start to trust somebody, that person
can still betray you and.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
You not know it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
I Mean that's what trust is. Yeah, you're trusting that
they're not you know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
You feel like they're not. But then like they could
You ever like be in a situation where a relationship
is kind of coming to an end and now this
person is telling you this stuff that they did or
saying they did this stuff that you ain't know about it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Yeah, I've been in the relationship like that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Now sometimes I don't know if it's real or if
it's because of anger, right, yeah, but still yeah, I've
been I've been there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Yeah, so that's what makes me say that because it's
like because then that that happened to me, and then
the person later said, nah, they ain't really, but then
how you know?

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, people say dumb ship when they're
mad a lot. Not to excuse it, because you still
should think about ship, you say, but I've done it.
I've said stupid shit that I didn't mean. Yeah, like
being mad and ship like and it's dumb. It's stupid

(01:26:59):
because you're not nothing but fucking up the connection you got,
you know what I mean? Because who knows if that
person is gonna you can say some ship. I know
for me, somebody can say some ship that had totally
turned my fucking whole feelings around, you know, so you
could do the same thing. No, you once you say

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some ship is out there and it can't be taken back,
you know, they heard it. It's up to it's up
to them if they're gonna take it for whatever, you know,
whatever it is or whatever is not. I should say.
But yeah, I mean, relationships are hard, so I don't
I don't fall anybody don't want being one.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
Yeah, I just uh.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
Yeah, I just I feel like it's probably best for
me to stay out of it. I just have.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
But that's a good thing that you know yourself like,
that's that's one of the biggest things I think in
life to not enough people do that or be real
with themselves, I should say, because you can easily be like,
oh no, I don't want to be in a relation,
and you probably feel that way from time to time,
but you probably think to yourself, like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Lately, I haven't felt that way. But it's like like
like when when we're talking about it right now, thinking
like maybe a healthier way, but maybe get therapy. Maybe
get therapy and then try it again. But then it's
like I've been in situations where I've said this before,
I ain't getting in a relationship no more. Then I
do it again, turn out bad again.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
Yep. So it's like now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
It's like I've said it many times, Like I'm saying
that many of times, you know, and something always happens
and you're right back into into the fire, you know,
And that's what it is. Just need more good days
and bad that's the key.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Yeah, trust is important because.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
You can't know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
It's super important. That's one of the most.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Yeah, you ain't gonna be with your partner.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Yeah, And people people don't under like I know, people
don't I know currently people don't understand how like this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
I'll give an example.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
When my lady went to uh Bahamas or somewhere she
you know, she goes on trips with her girls. I
feel nothing negative about that, Like she goes out with
her girls. I don't feel anything negative about it. And
back in the day, I would have like I would,
it would be a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
But but I don't, you know, I feel like everybody
deserves their alone time. Everybody deserves their time with their
friends and whatever that looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
And if you trust on me, trust them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Like I said, hicka aving I work, Chicka aving anywhere
at the grocery store.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
It doesn't necessarily be at the club or where her
at dinner, or or on the trip or anywhere like im.
It can happen anywhere, So why be mad at like
I seen dudes like oh, I owed to take no
girl's trip, but the girl cheating on the man at work?

(01:30:18):
Like whoever? It's wild. It's it's not easy, Like it's
not easy to get here. But the thing that people
I don't think people understand is even when she's away,
like I don't feel the need to constantly call her,
constantly check on her, you know, I text her text
the but but some people like when you're away, they're

(01:30:39):
like video calling there, you know, just to make door
everyone to see wholeheartedly trust her where you know, whatever
she says she's doing, that's what she's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Now, people, I think that's that's what it has to be.
Like you're always gonna put yourself out there to be
hurt like that, you know, you're always people always like, oh, well,
you got to protect yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
There's no way. There's no way to protect yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Yeah, exactly, there's no way to protect yourself if you're
in a relationship and trying to give it your all,
you know, there's no way, Like either you trust the
person or you don't, and if you don't, you need
to reevaluate that situation. But I mean, that's that's one
aspect that of relationships that I've conquered. Now there's a

(01:31:31):
whole bunch of others that I have not, and I
need work but anybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
As someone who I need a lot of work insecure.
How did you get to this point?

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
I'm to tell you the truth, I don't one hundred percent, No,
I really don't. I mean, I've been in therapy before.
I've or on several occasions, different therapies. I've been the
counseling for.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
That in particular and not in particular.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
But I've been in relationship counseling before, and I've been
in private.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Counseling, like just just alone and then tell you true.
I don't know. It wasn't no switch, it just one day.
I'm just like, yo, I.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
Gotta trust this person, and I free myself like it's free,
you know what I mean. Like that's why I said,
I know what you're talking about, Like I know, I
know how you feel like that ship is like being
in jail yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
And I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
I couldn't tell you how I got to this point,
but I'm glad I did because it's like I said,
it's free, it's free not to and you got to
be with a trustworthy person that too. I don't just
trust off the bat. I got trust hard. I mean
I got trust.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
No one on my own. You know, I don't really
feel that way no more, but at one.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Time I did feel that way, and my trust was
because my trust been betrayed so much, like not even
in you know, just being in the street for one,
in relationship too. But what I was saying, oh, yeah,

(01:33:21):
you know, having a trustworthy I think it starts with it.
Having a trustworthy person, a person you feel is trustworthy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
I think that's where it starts at.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
So when you said that to yourself, you were good
with it, like you were. There was no conflict because
because if you if you say, I'm in this, I
gotta I'm gonna just trust them. But if you don't
really trust the.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, it's yeah, it's gotta be
real or you're just lying to yourself and it's still
gonna feel the same, you know. But and it has
nothing to do like people people always has nothing to
do with feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
That's the thing. You got to take that out of
the equation.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Like some people think you're supposed to get jealous, you're
supposed to be untrusting or you don't feel something for
that person, and that ain't it. That has nothing to
do with it. You know what I mean, I'll funck
somebody up behind Brenda, you know what I mean, Like
it doesn't it's not it is that has nothing to.

Speaker 4 (01:34:28):
Do with it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
I'm happy, I am because I know how it was
like for years, you know, every relationship was the same.
Now there's other other things I need to work on.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Like I said that, I know I need to work on.
But that ain't want them.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
That's good. That's good. That's good. Like you, that's a
good thing. Like you're free of that and you have love,
So have the love without without that conflict at least
that yeah problem.

Speaker 4 (01:35:04):
Yeah, that's a good.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
Thing if I could trust somebody and not feel those feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
But that's the thing you gotta I mean, that's where
it comes down to. You gotta trust the person first.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
It sounds weird because that's what we're talking about, like
trust and jealousy and all that, But you have to
It has to be a person that you feel like
you can trust before you can trust them. You know,
it sounds like it sounds rudimentary, but it is real,

(01:35:42):
Like you gotta have somebody that you feel like is
trustworthy to trust them.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
But you know the problem is, what's that when you
have enough experiences to make you feel like that tattoo
trust no one.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing, like you gotta
you gotta take. The thing is you got to take
each person as their own person.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
It's easier to said than done. I mean, I'm saying
that like like you can do that shit, and like
I don't bring none of the baggage, and I got
other stuff, you know what I mean. There's other stuff
that is there that's not good, but that's just not
one of them. If you find yourself keep dealing with
people that are similar, that's the other thing. If you

(01:36:32):
keep dealing with people that you don't trust because of
certain things that they may do or may be, that
may be where you're going wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
If I really think about it, I may be getting
people that are like me, you know what, which is
like if they're like me in a certain way, it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
Good, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
And not only that, like you're bringing in your baggage too,
not just baggage from past relationships. I mean, it is
baggage from plast past relationships, but it's your baggage.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
It's the stuff that you've.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Done bringing in thinking you know, you got that in
your head and that that's that's hard to get over.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Yeah, that's hard to get over. Like, have you cheated
in every relationship?

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
I think I have and see? But also I think.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
You know I'm not. I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
I don't want to be judging. Yeah, I don't want
you to feel like I'm judging you. I was just
asking you a question like that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
But I think also, I don't know one hundred percent
either most I don't want to say all most I've
probably been.

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
I would.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
I feel like I may have been cheated on too
in most and most.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
Why you feel like that, you feel like because you
know you feel like that, because okay.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
Let me let me go through one. I know, the
other one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
It's pretty good evidence I've seen, you know, pretty good evidence.

Speaker 4 (01:38:13):
Other one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
Uh the other one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
Just yeah, pretty pretty pretty good evidence to that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
Uh that one. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's things and
with me.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
I feel like I have, but for the most part,
I don't feel like I have most of my relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:38:40):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
I don't feel like that you've been and I didn't like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
I've never been that type of person, like not, you know,
like I said, I'm not judging you, like there's stuff
you got work on, yes, but I've never I've always
been my own person for one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Yeah, like I've never been and.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
Really like influenced as much by the actions of my friends,
because I do have friends, you know, other friends.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
That are wild you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
And you know how they say people flock together and
they're the same. But that's not been true in my case,
and I know it hasn't been true. It's not true
for everybody, but people just like to say that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
I just I think from the beginning, I've always been
like super monogamous. Now I don't know if that's the
best thing for everybody. I don't think, like maybe that's
why you're struggling. Maybe you're not supposed to be monogamous.
Maybe you maybe you need to be in an open
relationship or a poly relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
I mean, everybody's everybody is their own person. Like I said,
I don't judge nobody for what they You know what
two people that agree are doing, like Loan's both parties knows.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
That this is an over relationship and not you know,
not wilding out like I don't judge that. I don't
think I could.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
I don't think yeah, no, I don't think I could
do that, Like if we were just talking about insecurity
and jealousy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
Like, but maybe that would help with that, if you know,
like some of the insecurity may be coming from not knowing,
like maybe if you if you knew.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Nah, that turns me off to think about my partner
with somebody else. Like just even when I was saying,
like these people, some of the like a few of
the people that I met on dating that sending me
videos of them doing stuff with other people, I'm like,
I don't think I really want to do nothing now
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
You know, you're thinking they don't do nothing with other people, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
No, but just just but just seeing it, you know,
even hearing about it, Like I've had a couple of
people talk to me about the other people they deal with.
I'm like, I want to hear that. I realized that
I don't really want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Through hearing it, well, that might be yeah, you might
have to work on some of that too, Like I mean,
don't that don't bother me? Like so not if it
was before me or whatever, Like I mean, I don't
care situation, I don't know, like I don't. I ain't
saying I want to see it, but if I was

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singing I'm trying to put it's hard to put myself
in these shoes because it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
So far from my reality.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
Like, but.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
I would think I wouldn't care, especially if it's somebody
I don't really know like that and just we're just talking,
like I know they've been with people before me, But.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
To see it, I.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Mean, we ain't that connected yet and you're still smashed.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying if you see.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Her sucking, I'm not you see a video of her sucking, yeah,
and now you like you want her to suck your dick,
like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
I mean, I don't, like I said, I'm so far
removed from that, but I don't know, like it wouldn't.
I don't think it would bother me. I don't know,
just like brand New, I don't think it would bother
me brand like a brand.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
I think, I think, honestly, I want that. I want
to not like no too much.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
That's part of the insecurity. That's part of your insecurity.
Because I'm not saying.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
Cool with cure, Like, I don't know if that's secure.
If so, there's there's someone I've been hooking up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
Why wouldn't you want to know? I mean, why wouldn't
that be a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
It's not that I'm thinking that that they're they're not
hooking up.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
No, I'm not even saying that. I'm just saying, like,
but I don't want to see it. I don't even
want to hear about it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
Like you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
So can they talk about their actions?

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
Wait, so we're talking about two people that are just
hooking up with.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
No, I'm saying hooking up or whatever, like talk about
the excess, oh, or people that they've hooked up with.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
I've been in situation and relationships where people have talked
about the excess where I've talked about my exes. But
it kind of, uh, it kind of like leaves a
bad taste or like it's better, it was better when
we didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
Well, we both we both didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
Okay, Okay, I mean, like I said, everybody's different, everybody's different.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
With that, like sometimes it would be okay, but then
like like especially when you tell somebody something and in
a moment of anger, they bring it back up.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
Well, yeah, that's something different, Like that's something different that
I think, that's a different issue, Like that's you know,
I don't like that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
I want to say to give myself some credit because yes,
I have cheated in all of my relationships, but my
very first relationship, uh you know in college I was
faithful for two years until I found out that she cheated.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
Oh guy, so you wanted to get back. I want
to get your licked back.

Speaker 4 (01:44:32):
Yeah that's what you did.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
That helps, no, because I started wild out, like it
just wants to have started something.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
Like yeah, and knowing knowing yourself Like if you knew now,
you probably break up with her. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's
what I want to do. And that's that's knowing yourself.
Like you you try to stay with her, but you
wasn't with that. I wasn't didn't feel good.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
I tried to be the bigger person to stay with
her and love her through that, but that just wasn't
the right move.

Speaker 4 (01:45:04):
That wasn't the right moved.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Like true, that's all part of knowing knowing yourself. Like
I said, that's a good thing. That means you're growing
at least. I mean everything everything you said in this
in this conversation means you're growing and learning about yourself.
I think that's all you can do. Like you don't
want to try not to be stagnated in where you're at,

(01:45:29):
Like you you you saying, just you saying that you
don't think your relationship material or feel like being in
a relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
I mean, that's that's growth, growth, and that's knowing yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
So I mean, it's true, it's true.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
And I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
I ain't mean to cut you off, but I was
just gonna say that. And you can change your mind
at anytime, ye Like, it's not you know, it's not
a thing that you gotta be like. Oh oh well
I said it, so now I gotta stay by it.
Like you can change your mind, you can be different,
you can you can be a different person tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
I don't know if I will though, No, I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Ain't saying you will, but maybe in two years you will.
Who knows, Maybe when you turn fifty you will, like who?

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Who knows?

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Never know? I don't know. Is that a song? Never
never never never never? No no no no no, that's
a baby face.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Oh okay, I don't know if that's the song I
was singing. No, I don't know. I don't know where
I got different, but that might be a song though,
probably somewhere somewhere in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
Away hey check one two?

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
Oh nice that came from that? Yeah okay, but yeah,
so yeah, that's how I'm even like that about my
porn now little.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
I mean, I don't understand that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:05):
I think it might be trauma.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Ya. Maybe it's trauma. It could be because I've had some.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
Yeah, I mean, it's one thing if it's like I
gotta understand, like your your woman, your wife or your
girl whatever. Like I understand that you know, not wanting
to see after y'all are in relationship whatever, But if
you're just not with this person, like and y'all just
trying to go.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
You know what, though, I think it is trauma because
and I wonder how many people experience this in this
new internet age and stuff. But I've seen after bad breakups,
I've seen video like purposely let me see one two

(01:47:50):
purposely Two of my exes either post it or posted
videos where they knew I was going to see it
of them suck and dick.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
Jesus Christ and yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
I mean, I don't know you're posting it anyway, like
that's that's not for me. I'm not gonna judge anybody,
but yeah, that's I mean, that's that's a revenge thing
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
They wanted to do that, then, yeah, they.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
Wanted to do that. And also to to.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
I mean, okay, I get what you're saying now. It
took me a couple of seconds, but yeah, that is trauma.
Yeah yeah, that is trauma. I understand it now. I
can understand it more now because that that is some trauma.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
Yeah, yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
It's funny, like how I felt uncomfortable with what I
was about to say.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
Because I felt more uncomfortable with what he was about
to zell. Okay, because then what you said, I felt
even more uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
So Jesus because it's like what some people.

Speaker 1 (01:49:04):
It's funny though, because I don't want to come off
like homophobic, you know, at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
Times, but people.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
Don't take it like like you know what I mean,
I'm glad you said that because that's how I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
I do think it's two different things. Like you you
ain't gotta be.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Homophobic to feel uncomfortable around something that you're not used
to being around. You know, we're talking about like that's
normal to me, but a lot of people think it's homophobic.
And I'm like, it's something that's foreign, you know what
I mean, Like it's something that's foreign, anything that's farn
ain't gotta be that, like anything you're uncomfortable around like

(01:49:42):
that that you don't really you know, know the ins
and out and everything, you know. For one, you I'm
trying not to say anything wrong, you know what I mean,
because I know how that goes, you know. But at
the same time, like it does make me feel uncomfortable
because you know, not ingratiating it, b it's just.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
And then me, I feelt a little uncomfortable because it's
not like some people. I can talk about that when
they get it and they you know what I'm saying.
I mean, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
Want you to feel that way though, Like that feels
bad for you to feel that way, you know what
I mean, Like like I understand why you feel that way.
Oh wait, so I can just talk about with you. No, no, no,
But I mean it is what it is. I'm probably

(01:50:41):
more comfortable than a lot of people, but you know,
I'm still uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
That's why do I feel like that? Like you know
what I'm saying, but we don't usually talk about that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Yeah, and that's that's probably why. Yeah, yeah, I want
to make it clear. I don't judge you. You know
what I mean, I don't you for none of that
ship like you know, I don't want you to ever
think that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
But you know if if no, I don't. If I
look uncomfortable, it's because I'm uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (01:51:10):
But you know what, I man, I don't want you
to be uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
There also maybe more things I would say to you
if we weren't, you know what I.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
And maybe that's why I'm uncomfortable too. I don't know,
like like who knows?

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
So, but let me say it. So I just you,
But but that's I don't know, Like so I don't
know just my I don't. I think it's trauma and
then I don't know. Maybe my tastes have changed somewhat.

(01:51:45):
So like Poort that I used to watch a lot
of when I was younger, maybe because there was no
trauma behind it, I.

Speaker 4 (01:51:52):
Could just enjoy it for what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
Yeah, true, Now it's like I don't really want see
that that could be.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
I mean it's probably probably for the better.

Speaker 4 (01:52:04):
Yeah, yeah, because I used to be a pouring addict.

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
Yeah, and I just it wasn't it wasn't a great feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
No, I got, like I told you earlier, I got
this video on addiction, and that's everything all addictions, you
know what I mean, social media collection. I'm really talking
about collection collecting addiction. But uh, you know, drugs, whatever
it is, it can all be the same.

Speaker 4 (01:52:32):
Do you feel like you have a collection addiction?

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
No, but I feel like at one time it could
have been there, you know, And I think it's uh,
I think a lot of people in the community. Do
I actually have the I think one of the things
that helps is I actually have some of the disposable

(01:52:55):
income to take part in this. And there's a lot
of people in the community that I see that don't
and still are buying up ship. And I think about
that and I'm like, damn, Like it feels weird sometimes
because I'm like, am I contributing to this ship?

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
Like I'm making these videos? Like people want this ship?

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
But that's why I wanted to make it, because I
see and I see a couple of people talk about
it online too, and say they're getting out because of
it because they feel like they're addicted to it. So
they'll stop collecting all together, not buying ship because their
life ain't right, you know, like their life falling apart
from buying this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
And I'm like, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
True addiction, Like when you when you when it's disrupting
your life, Like that's a true addiction, no matter what
it is. So you do it anyway, even if it's
disrupting your life and putting your relationships in jeopardy all
that ship. You know, that's that's true addiction. It's just
traditionally it's been drugs and alcohol, but it could be anything.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
So they feel like, gotta have this, I gotta I
gotta make this suppose.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
Yeah, they ain't even ain't even gotta have it, like
they buy it just off of women. Then they don't
even Some people don't even open and ship. They just
got boxes and ship and they room boxes of toys
and stuff and they're not even opening. It's deep. It's
deep because like I said, anything can be an addiction.
You're just replacing whatever is missing. What's the why, the

(01:54:27):
why why?

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
Well, in the beginning, it's it's wholesome.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
You know. It's like the collecting and having no nostalgia of
your childhood.

Speaker 3 (01:54:36):
That's why I collect, you know what I mean. The addiction,
what would be the why? Like what are they getting
out of? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
You just fall fall into it, just like anything else,
Like people do drugs. Don't want to get addicted to it.
They like that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:48):
So there's a feeling of buying this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
Yeah, okay, just like anything.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
How you feel when you buy something you really want
and you get it, you know what I mean, Like
like anything shot. I mean, you can have shopping addictions
all that, all that stuff, but I just want to
talk about the collection action.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Yeah, that's all it. That's all everything is.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
It's just chemicals in your brain, serotonin, dop with me,
all that shit. Like it's just making you feel good
when you do certain things, and so you keep doing
it and then it gets depleted and you need more
and more to make more in your brain. So just
like anything but excuse me, but yeah, that I mean,

(01:55:30):
that's a big addiction. Like porn, especially now, it's a
big addiction, and it can affect your relationships, you know,
it can. It doesn't have to like like with everything.
There's good and bad stuff with it, just like with everything.
There's people out there that can totally use it responsibly

(01:55:51):
and be fine and have good relationships and be fine
and it doesn't mess with them. But you know there's
people a lot of people out there that it does
because it called not the one intimacy you know what
I mean? Oh yeah, like it cause you not to
crave intimacy because you're getting it from this, so then
you just.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
Like fuck it. While we always we always get deep
before we're about to go.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
We always get deep at the last like it seems
like the last subject.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
We always get deep on on shit.

Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
And this morning can be said about that too, like
you watching that, or a person watching that and then
wanting to go out and do something, or just being
too when you're out in the world, being too horny.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
Well yeah, and not only that, it's unrealistic. You know,
a lot of stuff is unrealistic and it can make
especially in a younger person, it can make you them
think that's how it's supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
It's just like movies.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
It's like movies, like romance movies, how they make it
look like a lot of people feel like that's how
it should be.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Always be oh, oh we see each other.

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
Oh, like, you know, it can be that sometimes, and
it can be that, you know, it can be that,
but it's not that all.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
The time, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
And there's spells where it might not be there for
a lot a lot of the time, you know, but
people don't the movie don't show that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
The movie don't show show that hardship.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
And it's the same with that, it's just extreme, you know,
and some and and again there's things that's done in
that that can be done and real life that some
people like. But like I seen the statistics saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
The amount of.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
Men that choke women now have went up so far,
and the amount of women that don't want to be choked.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
Is still like the same.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
So they get scared because it's like the choking thing
is like mainstream, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
Like there's a lot of memes, a.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
Lot of stuff, a lot of people sharing stuff on
social media.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
Sexually.

Speaker 4 (01:58:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:01):
Yeah, Like there's a lot of women that don't like
that shit, but men are still doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
And at the moment, like women are like, you know,
what I'm supposed to do, Like, you know, we're in
the moment. So a lot of women feel like, damn,
like what the fuck is happening, Like why the fuck are.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
You doing this?

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
But they don't say doing that, yeah, because they're looking
at it as every woman likes that so because of
what they see either porn or on social media or whatever.
And that ain't the case. That's what I mean with
unrealistic and others and stuff for other like unrealistic stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
And it works both ways too.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
I'm sure there's women out there that thinking all men
like a certain thing from seeing posts and maybe porn
and whatever, and you know, having a certain mindset, and
they don't. You know, like everybody's different. Everybody likes different stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
Like I have a.

Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
Conversation like that slapping fast head. I have a conversation
about this ship slow down.

Speaker 2 (01:59:09):
I got cringing my neck.

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
That's funny, speeding guns out. But I think we're gonna
get ready to get it up out of here, so
I ain't parting words for the people.

Speaker 4 (01:59:30):
Thank you for tuning in.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
I hope you enjoyed this uh as as much as
we have. I think this was a good one, you know.
I'm looking forward to to watching it myself. And uh,
y'all take care and be safe and and and have
a good time and enjoy enjoy yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
Yes, and I second that everybody out there be safe,
have a great time, and.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Just be nice, be nice to each other.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
It's a lot of shit going on right now period,
this election and stuff, and just be nice.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
Be a nice person. Doesn't take much, you know, like thing.

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
Know like thing o thing know. As long as you alive,
you can give another

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
Track and take a grill high if you want to know.