Lighter Discussions of the Mind

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I used to focus only y'all hurts. I had many gifts,
but that was my own curse. But hold up, wait
a minute. Stuff that I need to focus on now,
not that.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Get your mom right here. Andy's like you, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey hey, welcome to the smooth Jazz section of the show.
I'm not well, we're thinking, and I'm one of your
hosts influence and to the writer, man, I got pricing. Hello,

(00:32):
what's on on?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
What's going on? Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Man? What's going on? As your last couple of weeks
been start the show with that?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Don't even feel like a couple of weeks in between?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, because well, I think because of when it goes up. Yeah,
you know, it's only been a week since this went up,
but it's been two weeks since we recorded. So yeah,
I tried. That was a long one, even though got
cut down a lot. We had like three hours of
stuff on there last week. So check that out. I

(01:07):
think it was pretty good. But yeah, so what's been
going on last week?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Eating? Eating better? I have to for my health, you know,
trying to get more fiber in my diet, you know,
less fat, you know, less eat and less fatty foods,
you know, I'm becoming really good at reading the back
of the reading the nutrition facts on the back of

(01:35):
things that I eat that I buy.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Okay for food, Yeah, I always look at the labels.
I've been looking at the labels for like twenty years.
Before the labels, I've been all labeling.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
But now I'm looking at almost everything on there.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it's cool. I asked. I don't know if I
was I at a restaurant, I asked, and or the
person next the table next to me asked, I can't
even remember. That's the damn saying for the nutrition. And
they came and brought a book, like a separate book,

(02:10):
just like a lall like you gotta they gotta have
nutrition facts. Now people don't know that. That's why a
lot of times it's in the menu depending on where
you go. But this place was like, you know, they
had little paper menus. They were kind of uh, pop
up upscale, I guess. And so yeah, they brought the book.
It's like everything they have all the nutrition information. So

(02:34):
that's dope.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, I've done that before. I did it at Red
Lobster and I chose oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I chose
my meal. I chose my meal.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
From the.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Booklets, the binders, the binders. Yeah, and then you know
who lass binder. Yeah, and that worked out. That worked out.
There was you know, they didn't give me no fuss,
They just brought them out.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, I won't be doing that tonight. Oh pizza, Yeah, pizza,
pizza Friday. How's your cholesterol?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
My cholesterol is shitty now it used to be. It
was last time I looked, last time I got tested.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
It was like they just sounds like such an old
question to ask.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, how's your cholesterol. I was listening to uh nas
untitled and when he said that, when he was like uh,
when he was describing the I forget what song that was,
I think n I double g e all we are

(03:46):
much more. When he's like old old women discuss their
sugar levels, I'm like, well, damn, like I'm there now.
I'm discussing levels and and cholesterol roll and blood prussure.
I got blood pressure cuff me taking my blood brushure
every day. Try to make sure I'm right because I

(04:07):
want to stay around for a long time.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
So you said your cholesterol was shitty.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, it was shitty last year I went and I
actually changed my daughter a lot since then, and I,
you know, moderation now like maybe, well it's been like
I haven't been getting pizza every week. I've been doing
it every other week. But last week I did order

(04:33):
some of Stromboli, so I fell off because it's the
cheese man, the cheese, Yeah, the cheese gotta gotta go
to cheese, the casing man and casing. I was watching
Elevation the other day, and you saw that Elevation with
Anthony Mackie and the girl that played their pool's girlfriend. No, yeah,

(04:58):
that was a pretty good movie. I was just saying,
Anthony Maggie talked too about like taking roles and and
now I know why. Now I know why. I see
all them rolls on Netflix and shit, like I see
all them different roles. What you mean, Uh, well, he
was saying diversity, like having diversity and working and like

(05:22):
there's not a lot of working actors, which I always
know like actors. People always just see stars, but there's
like eighty percent of the people aren't working. Eighty percent
of actors aren't working because there's only so many roles.
So I mean, you can even say they're amateurs, but
they're not. They work before, but they're just not working now.

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So he was saying, when you get pigeonholed into different roles,
you only got that role to as your portfolio or
roles like it, Like we do a lot of the
same roles. So he was like, you know, I went Juilliard,

(06:05):
I did this, I did that, did Broadway, I did
I did I do this, I'm this, I played a
gay man. I did you know all these different type
of roles.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
And what what did and what did he play a
gay man?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
And what movie was at? Uh? I know people was
uh criticize it too because he was like because his
brother's gay. And He's like, you know, I did a
role to try to understand my phobias and all that stuff.
So I picked this role. He was like, what is
that not to understand? What is that? And I'm like, well,

(06:39):
that's from your perspective, like his perspective, he you know,
because he said, let's be real, we grew up in
New Orleans and it was a lot of homophobia, a
lot of sexism, a lot of like growing up. When
he did, He's like, and it just is what it is,
Like that's just how we grew up. So I had
a lot of hang ups and he wanted to. I

(07:02):
was looking up the role he wanted to play. When
it came up, he felt like, oh yeah, yeah, let
me do that. Like I'm not gay, and I would
like to expand and try. And I guess people are
saying some people were like, well, gay no different than straight?
Does you like men? But I'm like, you can't really

(07:22):
say that, like when you're being conditioned a certain way
all your life and you know, not necessarily even because
I've never been told that it was it was a
bad thing from like my people's you know, my uncle
was gay. I'm sure that had something to do with it,
you know. So my mom, mom and mom my dad

(07:45):
never really say anything. But my mom, you know, she's
always been treated everybody how you want to be treated.
That was her and that's real, Like it wasn't just
a cliche for her. So I never had no or
will be growing up, you know, growing up in the community,
you hear stuff, stuff when you start getting older and

(08:06):
kids talk and say stuff, and so you do have prejudices.
You do feel a certain way, you don't you know,
you might not. You might be a good person and
get past it and be able to look at them
and change them. But still, like everybody has has those things.
So that's what he was saying. And he said he

(08:26):
took the role oh brother the brother kissing. Yeah, brother,
Well he just then in Black Mirror too. But Brother
the Brother, I mean, I can understand some of the
gay community maybe having an issue with that, you know,
because he isn't gay, so maybe he don't know some

(08:47):
of the nuances that goes on in the community. I
don't know if the other dude was or I'm sure
there had to be some consultants.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, but actors, Tom Hanks played a gay character and.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, but people can have the same Yeah, And that's
what he talked. He talked about that too. People can
still have the same feelings towards Tom Hanks as as
that too. I've never heard anybody express anything. I've never
heard everybody. Yeah, I've never heard anybody talk about Andy
Maggie's role. But from hearing like online and stuff just recently,

(09:19):
like I've seen people say stuff that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
I never heard like anybody say, oh, well, he's not gay,
he shouldn't play a gay catch.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how people feel.
I mean, i've seen people voice that, But I don't
know how many people feel it's not like a well
to me because I'm not in the community like that,
but it seems like it's not It's not looked at
the same as racer or anything anything else, you know

(09:55):
what I mean, like another nationality or from another place,
and that stuff seems more more uh. And I understand
why it's more negative when they get some eyed it's
just not totally not that to play that like that's
more problematic. I don't know how much problem you know,

(10:16):
people had a problem with a non gay person playing
gay like I don't. I just don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
I would imagine it's happened a lot. I've never thought
about it, you know, I've watched.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I have because I've I've a lot of the roles
I've seen the people were gay, So I thought I
thought about that, like I think a lot of people
think about that, though I think more men think about
it though when they see a man play gay in
a movie, a more straight man, let me put it
that way, because they wonder I because I think a

(10:55):
lot of straight men couldn't do that, Like they feel
like they couldn't play that role, and that that in
itself could be a hang up. I don't necessarily think
it's homophobia, but you know these days they call everything homophobia,
like you have any any issue with anything, and I

(11:17):
just think it's it's miseducation and not understanding.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
You know what I heard that was interesting. I heard
a young gay man express that he has some internalized homophobia.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, I'm sure, just like racism. I'm sure it's the same.
Like if you've been told all your life that something
ain't right, you know what I mean, and whatever that is,
whatever that that's across the board, and you're going to
internalize that. That's why when people people don't understand their racism,

(11:52):
sometimes when they're not intending it. Like when you grow
up in the system, in this system all your life,
which is a racist system, is built by racism, like
like it might have changed since then, but still it
hasn't changed that much. So you're going to have some
stuff is going to be there only when you confront

(12:15):
that stuff and understand why it's there and not scared
of it and not try to be like, oh no,
that ain't me, that ain't it. I got gay friends,
I got black friends, I got whatever, you know, whatever
the case may be. However you justify you know, if
you if you don't do that and you really try
to internalize and see where it's coming from, only then

(12:37):
you can get past it. But I'm sure there's a
lot of people that got you know, internalized stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, that's like with me, Like I've realized that I've
had certain feelings and behaved certain ways that I don't like.
It's like things that racism in this world has brought
about it in me, ways of seeing people like and

(13:03):
feeling a certain way that I don't like that I
feel that way.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, you know, yeah, no, I feel you Sometimes it's
it's inevitable and impossible not to like, it's a human thing.
But that and that's the thing, like people always want
to run from it, even when somebody does something.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
But there's also what can you can not, Like you said,
when you realize it, you can work on it, you
can think about it.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, only if you're empathetic and I think level hitted.
You know, there's people that embrace that stuff and keep it,
and I don't think they're good people, but there are
there out there. There's a lot of them that do
embrace it and keep it. And don't try to look
and change and see, you know, the error and what

(14:02):
what they're thinking, or maybe maybe they'll figure out that
it's not an error. But still, I don't think anybody
that thinks deeply and looks deeply into it, Uh, I
think they change. I think everybody does if they're really,
you know, really a good person, really empathetic. There's no
reason not to, despite how he was brought up or

(14:25):
taught or whatever. With the Anthony Mack thing.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, different roles, Yeah, And I just see how that
be beneficial. The more you can play, the more people
might look at you. Oh, he can play this, he
can play that. You know, that's what you're.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Saying, Because it was like and now I'm got a
married he said so, and he know what he was
getting to other stuff. He was alluding to some other things, uh,
which one of the big things I think a lot
of people had gravitated towards was when he said success
was given and not earned. I understood what he's saying.

(15:03):
I think it's not that cut and dry, but I
totally understand what he's saying. And I think he's right
about that. Like yes, there's a certain like yes, you're
not going. There are a few people that are just
sitting on the couch and just get a call and
they just get handed everything, you know, But I don't

(15:23):
think that's the norm. I think more so it's preparation
for that moment and you're prepared and then you go
on to do big things. And that's kind of what
he was saying. He was like, he does all this stuff,
and he was talking to everybody in the room too.
He's like, but somebody said you. It's like it's somebody
that could run faster than you, somebody that was behind you,

(15:47):
that could run faster than you, that probably could catch
better than you. But somebody said you, and you went
and the ten people that was just as fast they
fell off. And he's like, so why, He's like a
lot of times there's no while like, it's just that's
that's it. They said you, And it's also what you

(16:07):
do with it. But that's what he was saying. He
was like, you know, he prepared, but still it could
be people that prepared just as much and be as
prepared or even more, but they say you. So that's
that's what he was saying. When he was like, it's
given and not earned. And I do. I do see

(16:29):
that a lot. I do see that a lot.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
But for somebody to be like it's you, you had
to be there.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. And you know you had to
put in that work to get to that point.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Right, Because I was just thinking, like he was so
interesting to me that Tupac got on because a daughter
of an executive or something, a kid like I like this,
Like I like this, yeah, and so you know he
got on that way. But then look what he did
with you know, Yeah, but he had to that demo

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had to be there for her to even like it.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
But the thing is, it could have been ten people
that would have did the same thing with it. Yeah,
you know what I mean, You don't know, right because
you know, it's a decision. It's the multiverse, you know
what I mean, Like that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
And I don't I don't know, Like you may not
say you don't, you may say you don't believe in this,
But what if it was meant for him to get it?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, I mean I don't believe that, but but I
think a lot of that is the way your gratitude
and your preparation, That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
But like to to piggyback off of the Rose conversation, Like,
you know what I've thought about it a lot is
like Denzel Washington, right, his success and like most of
the time he's the good guy, right, and I think
that lends to the success of his career. I think

(18:04):
like picking certain roles like like are better for your
career than others, pick and rolls where you oh yeah,
picking rolls where you're not he's died and maybe what
three movies. Yeah, you know he's played.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
He said that he actually his first role like into
uh was it Bellefonte or uh, Sidney Sidney Poitier. I
think it's Sidney Poitier. But and that's what he told him.
He was like, should I do this? Yeah, And he's like, uh,

(18:41):
you know, your first role is gonna determine and and
that's you know, and that's in life a lot. That's
how I tell people, even like college kids, Yeah, you're
starving and you're you know, you might be broke, but
depend on what business you're in, your first job is
going to determine the rest of your career. Especially in business,

(19:03):
like the first job you take, like if you take
a really low, low paying job, it could determine the
rest of your your pay for the rest of your
career depending So it's kind of like that with with roles.
I'm sure there's people, there's exceptions to everything. So I'm
sure there's exceptions. And even after that first role, like

(19:25):
a rule like not to not to put nobody down
or or anything. But should I say a name like
there was there was so so the I don't know

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how to say his name? Who's that Bubba from First Gump? Oh? Yeah,
I don't know his name. I know it's T Williamson.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
I don't know Michael, but T Williams, right, And that
was a great role for him, right, So then he
was in one of the what's that one movie where
Final Destination? He was in one of the Final Destination movies.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, and his character was killed, right, killed in a
certain way. And I'm like, dup, like, you're you're I
don't know, I said that, Michael, you're michel Lee. T Williams,
You're m I'm sorry you missed, you're him? Why would
you take that role? And I'm thought, well, okay, maybe
he needed the money, but I'm like, yo, this role

(20:36):
in Forrest Gump like was so great.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, but it might not translated into anything. But then
like then there's some surprises. But that's the thing, like
it don't always determine.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Like, uh, what's the dude who played Ghosts and uh
the fifty cent show?

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Oh uh Chadwick or not? What's his name? I can't fine,
uh Mari Hardware, Mary Hardware. So my I'm saying Chadwick
all the time. It was last name.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
It might have been my introduction to him, or it
might have been like maybe just it just was so
what do you call it? It was just so.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Poor girls, colored girl or color girl.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, yeah, like that's what I'm like, Yeah, and you
won't like him after that? Yeah, I was like it
identified him so much with that and then like.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
That's what Brenda always says.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Oh yeah, but then he got then then but other
people know him for Ghosts, Ghosts, ghost Ghosts. So now
it's like okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
If they can't see that movie, yeah, it ain't no more.
Ain't no more twenty million dollar film stars because it's
just the money ain't out there. I don't think nobody's
getting twenty in a film, even like Denzel on those.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
It seemed like COVID had some sort of effect.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Have you not necessarily know if it was COVID. I mean,
COVID definitely affected shit.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
When COVID happened, I felt like celebrity was dead. I
probably said that on this podcast before, but I felt like.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I don't think it's COVID, though I think.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Like it celebrity rose again. But at that time, I
felt like everybody was on the even playing.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Well it was. And that's the thing when this was happening,
that everybody like it was something that never happened. When
COVID hit, it was it did. It put everybody on
the even playing field. It ain't matter how much money
you had, like you might be able to like find

(22:51):
better doctors, but if that shit wanted to take you out,
especially in the beginning, they ain't know what was going on.
They an't know how dangerous it was, and it was
more dangerous then, So a lot a lot of things.
Even now, I think people forget, like even though it's
been only been a few years, I think people's memories
are short. Like when when COVID hit, like every single

(23:14):
person on this planet it was, it was affected, so
everybody and everybody's home. Wasn't nobody doing ship wasn't.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
No.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
That's why there's all these studies that was happening during COVID,
which is cool. Like they studied, like social aspects, they studied,
They studied a whole bunch of different stuff and found
all but all kinds of things you know, with with
being social and being in the house and not going
out and all that all that stuff. Uh But to

(23:45):
your point, I can see that because that's how that's
how we was thinking, like everybody was almost everybody was
the same. I always thought that anyway.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
But it not because because people were people do now
people were worshiping celebrities and then I feel just felt
at that time it just was like, you know, you saw.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Something bigger going on. It gave Perspective's why you had people,
you know, actors stop acting, retiring, You had people doing
other shit like I'm going over here, people spend more
time with their family. Like it just it gave your
perspective of what really mattered. And I think a lot
of that shit didn't matter no more, right, you know,

(24:32):
like celebrity being famous, all that stuff didn't matter no more.
You know. I mean some people say it never mattered
or it should have mattered, But it does matter whether
you agree or not or think it should matter less.
You know that that's maybe true, but it does matter
like a less.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Celebrities like big stars and commercials like you still see
that today.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Well, I think that's always been you don't. The thing
is that I don't think people understand is how much
money you make from commercials. And and yeah it might
have it might have picked up more because they wasn't
nobody working, so they needed to do whatever they did.
But I think people don't realize how much commercials make.

(25:18):
I got much money you make from commercials. You can
make millions of dollars doing commercial like Flow. I think
she made like twenty six million dollars or something since
she's been with Progressive And she was a no name
like she she she was a I ain't gonna say
she was a no name, but she was a comedian
and just you know, just doing little improv, stand up
whatever when they found her and now she's like this

(25:43):
is it And dude Mayhem, yeah, that guy, he was
talking about it. He was like, I got best friend,
my best friends who are actors, they're not working. He's
like they they are. Some of them are struggling. He's like,
I'm not gonna say any names. And some of them
are struggling, some of them live in check the check.

(26:04):
He's like, in this commercial, don't afforded me everything I got,
he says, So I love it. He's like, I don't
care if people come up to me and they know
me from Mayhem more than any of my movies, TV shows,
all that shit he did. He's like, they know me
for this. But yeah, like commercials are lucrative, and I

(26:25):
think more celebrities were like, oh well, let me move
on over here. But I think a lot of celebrities.
I think people used to look down on it though,
but they still do. I think they still do look
down on it, Like why are they in this commercial?
Depend on the commercial?

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think that's less so now there's the I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
I don't know, it's still it's still people that look
like this motherfuck doing this commercial, Like you know how
you know how much money they're getting to do that commercial?

Speaker 1 (26:55):
But I would think, like I don't know, just from
the outside looking at it seems like it seems like
doing a commercial don't really affect so Mu's career. So
much like it's like a negative so much now, Like
I just like Jason Bateman's.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
In a commercial.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Do you think that that commercial with Jason Bateman, there's
a lot of celebrities in that commercial. There's a whole
bunch yeah, like big names, like yeah, yeah, but I.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Mean but they but places depend on what it is
they always and that's the thing that people don't. That's
how like insurance commercials. That's a testament that how much
money insurance companies make and how much they don't pay
out unfortunately because they be getting like A listers in
their commercials, and it's just what it is now. I

(27:46):
still hear I still hear people say stuff about people
in commercials, but.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I enjoyed some of them commercials like when people the
best are not known people Like I like that commercial
where the guys like the people are becoming their parents
and they trying to stop them from Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
This is funny. I'm like, I do that.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
I guess another effect of like COVID is like and
maybe this was happening before, but some stars were created
out of covid on online, you know, through the internet.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well yeah, yeah, I mean I think that was before too,
But I think just everybody has so much time that
they amplified these platforms to another level. Like I think
doing COVID, social media went like crazy, you know, because
because of that, you had so many people, for one

(28:39):
trying to figure out how they're gonna eat, and for
two trying to figure out how they ain't gonna go crazy,
you know. So it was those media, It was only
the and trying to connect with people like we couldn't
talk that we wasn't it ain't wrong with people. So yeah,
social media went crazy going COVID. I remember in November

(28:59):
hearing about it and I was like, this shit gonna
be bad. I remember saying that shit and I was like,
this shit gonna be crazy. I didn't think it was
gonna be as crazy as it was. I ain't gonna
say I predicted that, but I was definitely when everybody's
just like just non shalant, and I just kept hearing

(29:23):
because I looked at BBC News a lot in NPR,
so I just kept hearing. In the morning I have
on my refrigerator, I asked for the morning brief. Samsung
sponsor kept hearing like how it's spreading over in China
and I'm like, yo, we need to pay attention. And

(29:45):
then it spread to like Europe, and this was like
in November, November, beginning of December, and I'm sitting there like, yo,
this ain't good, Like this shit is spreading. It ain't
nobody saying nothing. Then I remember at the end well December,
that that was like the terrible year because that's when

(30:07):
my mom got sick in December. So that year and
then the following year she passed in April. But that
so that was twenty twenty. And but I just remember
in December. I think it full fledged was March. I

(30:27):
can't remember what was it March, I should remember, I
think so, yeah, I think it was March. But I
remember in the end of December a group I'm in
in Facebook, somebody posted was like, ain't by a concern
with this? Like this looked like it's spreading a lot
of places. And I was like, yeah, I'm very concerned.

(30:47):
I said, you know, I'm not. I'm not gonna worry
myself to death, but I'm keeping an eye on it.
I remember saying that, and everybody was like, nah, this
it ain't gonna be nothing. Nah, they just bullshitting now whatever,
the same old bush shit. They just fear mongering all
that stuff. But I was adamant because I just was
looking at it how fast it spread. And sure enough

(31:10):
February that's when it started, you know, started like more
all over, people getting on planes and ship. Shit just
started spreading like wildfire fire. And then it was like
Coatagian or that that movie. I just remember that movie
that in World war Z. This is how World War

(31:30):
Z was like. In the beginning, it showed that's exactly
what the COVID map looked like. And I was like, ah,
ship and then all hell broke loose. How much do
you know about these these outbreaks of measles? And how
concerned should we be about it? I mean, if you
got vaccinated, shouldn't be concerned at all, right, But a

(31:54):
lot of these outbreaks from anti vaxxers, like they're not
vaccinating their kids. You know, a lot of it is that,
like they and it's a lot of the misinformation out
on vaccine vaccines and your boy rfk ain't helping the matter,
and he he's a fucking dunce, and like it's just

(32:21):
that's what it is. Like people, While you laughing.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Why why do you say that what your boy.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
It's just an expression I said all the time. It's
just an expression, this expression your boy, your boy. I
like I'm saying your boy. You know what I'm saying,
your boy, your boy? Rfk uh. Most of the time
it's said about motherfucker that ancient boy like, so that

(32:50):
is just slang. Grew up with that. I just ain't
ain't get rid of. There's two things in America, American
medical system that they do great and as vaccinations and trauma.
Like the medical industry does vaccinations and trauma well, very well,
the American medical board uh industry. But other than that,

(33:19):
they don't do a lot of other stuff. Well, like
there's there's medical stuff that's coming back that was eradicated,
like polio, Like people are getting polio again because they're
not getting vaccinated. Okay, there's stuff that and it called
you know, measles. Measles kill a lot of kids or
they did kill a lot of kids because they're not
they're not getting their kids vaccinated. It's crazy to me.

(33:43):
Keep them motherfuckers away from me, keep your rug rats
away from me and my kids.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
But if you and yours are vaccinated, then it's not
a problem.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Right, it shouldn't be, but still mm hmm, like you know,
you don't know, might stop working. That's the other problem.
People start getting it again, I get start mutating, and
then then the vaccines that we had won't work no more.
So now we gotta make new vaccines that ain't nobody

(34:18):
that people that the same people ain't gonna take. Not
that you can't get good stuff from YouTube videos, but
do more research than that and just watch my just
watching the videos, Yeah, don't do that's gotta do better
research than that.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I do Google too.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
No, you gotta look at sources. You gotta look at
where the information come from, like where either way too.
I tell people all the time, like if something confirms
your bias, do research on that too, Like make sure
where it's coming from.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Because because sometimes I'll see conflicting things. I mean, it's
always gonna be conflicted. It's too difft uh. But I'm motivations,
as say, two different motivations. Because I give an example,
me being a vegetarian.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
I see something that says meat is great for you,
and I'm like, damn not that I'm necessarily I'm a
vegetarian because I don't want to eat too much meat.
But you know, some people are different, different reasons why
they're vegetarian and vegan, you know, But for me it

(35:33):
was health wise. But you might see an article saying, oh,
meat is the greatest thing in the world. You can
eat three meals a day red meat. And there's a
lot of carnivore dieters in different keto diets and different
stuff like that where people will.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, because I saw one and it's like very like,
it's just me interesting and it had me wanting to
do it. But then then you have other evidence saying
other stuff saying.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
No, you know that that, Like the one article I'm
thinking about was written by and I had to go
down a rabbit hole because I saw who was written
by and it's like, yeah, this person is such and
such of the National whatever. And then you look at
that organization and you see that they are a proponent

(36:22):
of the meat organization. Like they the the cow people
and whatever they're called. I don't know, but the people
that raise cows and stuff. They're paying them. So you're like, oh,
you can't take this for face value. And it's vice
versa two. I've seen where they it'll be like a

(36:44):
vegan thing, and it's like, well, this is great for
you and you don't need any extra anything, where I
know that's false, Like you do need extra supplementation when
you're vegan. You do need and I've been a vegan,
not just a vegetarian, so you do need you don't get.
There are some stuff that amino acids that you can't
get when you're just vessels. There are some amino acids

(37:08):
in meat that you can get synthetically or they take
it out and you know, they do some stuff to it.
I know some vegans don't even want that, but I
mean what you're gonna do is not a byproduct after that,
it's it's chemically changed. So it's not you know, it's
not a byproduct of the meat. It's synthesized or whatever.

(37:29):
But if animals suffer, but that's what I'm saying. It's
not taking it from an animal, so it's oh, it
didn't come out of animal. I mean it might have
came from the milk or whatever, but it's to synthesize
amino acid. Like the You could find sustainable, cruelty free

(37:49):
ways of that of getting that, so go that route.
But some some are like nope, like it's no matter what,
but some people it's and even that, like looking up
veganism and seeing the different rules, I guess rules, but
I've seen where some people won't eat candy because of

(38:13):
the byproducts in it. But some people, like some alal
people are like, this is changed because it's no longer
like chemically whatever they did to it, they pasteurized it
or boiled it or whatever they did to make it,

(38:33):
this element or vitamin or whatever it is, it's changed.
It's no longer a part of that meat system. So
they can have it like they can eat it. So
I don't know, it's just I think you just got
to do a lot of research, like everything, whatever it is,
even if it's something that you agree with, you got

(38:55):
to look and see where that comes from. Because I've
seen a lot of stuff that I agree with that
were false where I almost shared shit and I'm like,
you know what, let me look, let me look this
shit up. And I'm looking now, I gotta look deeper,
i gotta look more, look better, look at better of sources.
Like there's a hundred websites that are run by bots

(39:18):
that just got AI stories just posted just to get hits. Like,
don't get your ship from there. But people take the
first article that pop up, and don't take the sponsored
article either because they paid to be first. Like, hey,
you know, it might be a good article, but they
still pay to be first, So don't just look at
that article and be like, yoah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I just saw something. I saw something on Twitter. I
don't even know if I mentioned it, but I saw
something that said that it was a video. And I
don't know if this is a part of the files
that were released about JFK. Have those been released yet?

(39:59):
His stuff?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
I don't think so. Oh, but I saw something on
there and I don't know, they might be. I mean
some of that stuff is probably fine now, like some
of that stuff probably isn't even classified anymore.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
What I saw was a video of the driver shooting
President JFK.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Oh like, yeah, yeah, I don't think that's real. Yeah,
I've seen that conspiracy before and there was a video. Yeah,
I've seen that conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Before somebody with a blue check mark. So but it
still might not. Yeah, I mean, hey, to get that,
I would think I would think I would hear that
more places if that came out to be what it was.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
That's the thing about conspiracy theories, Like there's so many
people that got to be in on it. I don't
understand why people believe some of this, Like there's so
many people that got to be in on it, Like
the government came fucking keep keep anything secret, Like you
know that's not the back see people like, ah, they
wasn't in space. Like I follow somebody the other day yesterday, somebody,

(41:11):
and I'm like, damn, I hate when I find out
somebody I really like this stupid, Like I hate that.
I hate it. It is you know, somebody all followed
and you know it was somebody I kind of knew,
you know, they were a YouTuber too, And I met
a couple of times, and I'm like, they were like

(41:32):
they were never in space. They ain't nobody in space,
Like they went down the rat they went off the cliff.
They was like nobody in space. We ain't never go
to space and all. And I'm like, okay, I can't,
I can't.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
And I'm not saying every conspiracy theory is wrong, because
there had been a few, but people always use those
few as as a proof that these are true. And
I'm like, no, a lot of them aren't true. There's
a few, you know, there's a few. It's just like
with the vaccine, vaccines and vaccinations and stuff. You know,

(42:09):
they used the Tuskegee experiment as proof, and I'm like, no, yes,
we can use that as reasons why we don't trust
the government. And I understand reasons we don't trust the
medical field, in the racism that's in the medical field.

(42:30):
But at the same time, like, you can't you can't
be like every single thing is just like they they're
giving us ship. They're not telling us every single thing.
And the thing is with the Tuskegee experiment, a lot
of people don't even understand that it wasn't they They weren't.
They didn't give them syphiless. They just weren't treating them,

(42:51):
which is terrible, and because they were telling them they
were treating them, but they were just giving them water
to study the effects of syphiless on It was all
black people, but which is terrible enough. But a lot
of people think that they were giving them they gave
him siphless. The fuck is going on with this is

(43:12):
like looking like Trump. It was so funny that just
sent you that fixure and they said this to him
the next day, and he had like bandages all over
his face and he was like it was very distressing.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Shoot, Bill watching the Bill burd special It's good. It's
called drop Dead Years on Hulu, and he was saying, like, shoot,
when he gets when you get to his age, like, uh,
eight hours sleep is.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
The new pussy?

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Did you get eight hours sleep without nobody bothering you? Oh?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah, I was feeling I don't think I can sleep
eight hours, like I'll be having the time m hmm, but.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Like I don't know, and just wake up. I wake
up in the middle of the night every night. Oh yeah,
get on my phone and I'm up a couple hours
and that interrupts.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
My Yeah, of course, why would you get on your phone.
It's just a habit. Now. Yeah, that's terrible, Like that's terrible.
That might be worse than staying up, waking up and
getting on your phone. Yeah, your sleep, your circadian rhythm
is probably all fucked up. Circadian rhythm. Yeah, I've been

(44:34):
trying to go to bed at the same time every night,
even though it's late, like it might be like one
in the morning. Sometimes if I don't have to get
up early, like two in the morning. I try to
get to sleep by at least one when they in
every night because I will stay up past and even
when I gotta get up to go to work. So

(44:57):
it's a habit. It's not even a habit. It's somebody
post to meme the other day that say, uh ADHD people,
And I'm not diagnosed, but I do think I got
some ADHD and they're like EIGHTYHD people stay up late
as hell just to feel like they have some time alone.
And that's how it is, Like I'll be staying up

(45:19):
late because even if I do stuff by myself during
the day, like, it's not what I want to do,
you know what I mean. So when I'm here and
it's late and everybody's sleep, I feel like I got
a long time, Like I feel like it's alone. So
that's why I stay up, Like I get my four

(45:39):
hours of alone time, like I need a lot of
a loan time. But I don't get it. I mean
I do get it now. I get a whole bunch
because my ladies. And she goes to the gym a lot.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
How's that working out? Is she like getting the results
she wants? Oh?

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, she lost like forty pounds, oh since the last time.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
So she she still has a train Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, she she's training. She goes to she goes to
like spin class, like even when she ain't training, she
trains a couple of days a week weight training. But
then she she has like a boot camp class. Oh well,
they be doing some real ship and then she goes
like spin and hip hop dance stuff like that. But

(46:24):
she been doing her thing and she looked good like
she you know, she got in shape and she got right.
Do you ever want to join her? I do, but
I don't know if she want me to because that
might be heart alone time, you know what I mean.

(46:44):
I don't know. I don't know because I brought it
up a couple of times and she didn't seem to
a Thus, maybe she just ain't enthus with me right now,
So maybe that's just what it is. But I mean
like it, Yeah, I don't know. So I didn't. I
didn't in a pose because I know how that is.
Like there's certain things that I like to do by myself,

(47:05):
that I want to do by myself, so I ain't
push the issue. I think I'm gonna join the gym though,
because I'm just not getting the proper work out here,
even though I got the weights and stuff, It's just
it's not the same because then there'll be something like
I follow a regiment on body Space or yeah, body

(47:25):
building app so they have different programs. There's like four
weeks and it gives you different exercises to do every day.
But when I'm here, I'm trying to modify shit, and
I don't have the bars and I don't have all
the stuff that you need. So then I just get
discouraged and I just be cut my work out short
sometimes because I'll be like I gotta skip that, skip that,

(47:46):
skip that, and then I end up doing the same
exercises all every day. So I'm like, I got to
join the gym. There's so many gyms around here, so
I think I think I'm gonna join one of these gyms.
That's all the interview metha Man's kids like Xavierra check
her out, Xavier b h or ice Cream commos, more

(48:10):
like it dot com. But yeah, she she was interviewing
Meha Man's kids. It was cool because it's cool when
some people's kids, especially men's, because you don't see as
much like talk about their dad, like very favorably, and
I just saw the excerpt, but because she had asked him,

(48:33):
what you want people to know about your dad? And
they were both like, because it's a girl and a boy,
and they were both like, who you see is exactly
one hundred percent who he is. And he's like everything,
like everything you see on TV, like when he's not acting,
he's like, he's one hundred percent that's him. Like he's

(48:53):
a good dude, and he taught us, you know, he's
instilled in us to be that way. And I thought
it was cool because she was giving props and her
brother was agreeing, but she was talking more than him,
I think. On that clip, Yeah, it was pretty dope.
It's cool. Cool to see the only turtle I know isage.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
But it's just interesting to me. He appeared on an
episode of Popped the Balloon because his opinions on that
that show.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
He got fired from his job.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Oh yeah, and then so he got he got he
got hired on the reality TV show and he's been
like like a you know, a fixture on the internet lately.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, that's that's the thing that you care. I just
it's funny because it's funny you bring that up. Because
I just did trainings at work, and I do the trainings.
It's like the same trainings we gotta do every year.
So I just did did the social media and out

(50:02):
of work conduct training, and I was like, damn, that's
how I'm always I'm not too much anymore scared. I
used to be scared, like when we was putting out music,
Like I used to be, you know, kind of careful.
And I think that's why I didn't promote as much
as I should have at times because of my job.

(50:25):
But yeah, I mean jobs have people always screaming freedom
of speech, but that's not freedom of consequences. And if
your job has a policy about social media or your
conduct outside of the job, I mean there's nothing you
can do about it. What's in the policy. Well, in
our policy, like anytime, you know, even if you're not

(50:45):
working outside of the job, if you conduct yourself in
a way that doesn't reflect well on or that they
feel doesn't reflect well, I mean, you can be whatever disciplined,
including termination. So now, depending on what it is, like,

(51:10):
I think you could fight it, because that's very subjective,
I think. I mean, it's the same thing with dress
codes and stuff. That's another issue that's been coming up,
Like there's been a thing on TikTok where they call

(51:33):
siren siren outfits. Women go like they're risky outfits and
they're going to like business jobs wearing them, trying to see,
you know, if they'll get disciplined or if anything happened
to them. Because it's kind of like the fighting back
to the kind of like what we talked about before

(51:53):
with it's all kind of respectability politics and who makes
these rules? You know, like who it's some stuff that's
clear cut that you know probably is going to get
you in trouble if you're saying online, but other stuff,

(52:14):
you know, who's making these rules? Like one thing that
I find offensive could not be offensive to somebody else
and vice versa, and so how you know how that
stuff is navigated. But I know that one lady, everybody's
like on her, like how stupid can you be? She
had her job was like she made like two hundred

(52:35):
thousand a year and she fucking got fired from that shit,
and she was on like TikTok talking about it and
stuff because of what she wore to work, which her
outfit was, I mean, but then you can you can
look at it like it's police and women, and I
think that's what they're looking at, Like that's why they're

(52:57):
kind of doing this. It's kind of like a protest thing.
At the same time, I'm like, it's a fine line.
You gotta walk a line. Like I don't like our
dress code at work. I don't feel like it makes
me a better person because I'm dressed and I don't.
I don't. I don't adhere to our dress go at work.
And I've been there for twenty two years, so people

(53:18):
don't fuck with me too much. I'm sure if somebody complained,
I would hear it. I've had it in the past.
I've heard it in the past when I was but
that was when I was at the in Trenton, at
the main office mainly, and I still was like fuck it.
So a couple of times, you know, I had to
change my stance and I'm appropriate where it's appropriate. Like

(53:41):
I was, I was dealing with the court stuff. So
when I had to go to court days I had
to go to court, I respected the court. The court
want you to dress up, like when you wear a tie,
So I respected the court and I wore a tie
in the shirt. You know, when I was in the office,
I wore jeets, which we're really not supposed to. But

(54:01):
don't nobody come in to our office, Like it's stupid
to me, Like, why I'm dressing up for other people?
For the other workers, it's doing this, well, not the
same thing. We all got different jobs, but basically they're
are working doing the same thing I'm doing. Like why
I'm impressing them. If I go to a meeting, I
dress accordingly, got dressed accordingly. But but yeah, everybody was

(54:23):
like on her, which I can kind of understand because
I don't know if I were risk that for a TikTok.
That is kind of I don't like to call people
that ain't dumb dumb. I don't know her, like, I
don't know her beliefs. I don't know how she thinks,
so I'm not gonna call her dumb. But yeah, she
had two hundred thousand dollars a year's job and lost

(54:45):
that shit in this economy, Like whoa, come on, man,
I know people were like I wouldn't take it that far.
He was like, Man, I'll be wearing whatever the fuck
they tell me to wear. They can tell me to wear.
It is a ski mask with a top hat and
tie tie around my dick and album coming to work
with the tie flapping. He's like, listen, and I'm like,

(55:09):
you know, I wouldn't take it that far, but I understand.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
I was listening to Mark doctor Mark Lamont. He'll talk
about his ideas on prison, and he has different ideas
on it, and you know, he leans more towards alternative
uh routes, possibly like for for rehabilitation, for treatment. He says,

(55:39):
like a lot of people don't necessarily deserve to be well.
He don't think, he don't believe they should go to jail,
they should be treated.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, I mean that's what that's the whole premise of
prison in the first place was for rehabilitation. But it's
it's not that like prison is for profit. That's basically
it now like like these prisons are making profits and
and it's free labor, like they're using them for free labor,

(56:09):
slave labor basically, and that that's what it is now
is good old capitalism as with everything else. But I
agree with that, Like I agree with that. It's a
lot of people you know, working in the prison, being
in the prison, like being in jail, uh getting arrested,
Like you see a lot of stuff, uh, you know,

(56:32):
and I don't think like there's a lot of people,
especially in the county when you when you're in the county,
like it could be somebody waiting to go to prison
that kills somebody, and somebody's sitting there with a warrant
for three tickets. You know, you're all just sitting there together,
and you're all just in jail. You're just all the same,

(56:56):
and it's not like a murderer. I believe they should
be paying the price, like they shouldn't. But there's a
lot of people that don't need to be just locked up,
and especially these days, like if prison was what it
should be, there's rehabilitation and focused on that, it might

(57:17):
be okay, but it's it's not. It's not that it's
just housing to keep people away from society, and now
it's for profit and free labor. So a lot of
people shouldn't be there. And you saw that, Like we

(57:37):
talked about COVID earlier, that's what happened in COVID, and
they started letting people out that weren't non violent offenders
and that that had did most of their time or whatever,
like they even some violent offenders was getting out. But yeah,
they looked at it was like, oh, well, we don't
need all these people and just let them out, just
let them all out. And it was like, yeah, it

(58:02):
was like conducive to like the spread of career. Yeah, yeah,
from being you know, being in that close quarters. Like
it's scary. You know, I had somebody close to me
that was locked up during COVID and a whole basically
the hole to start and like until recently, not too
long ago. So and the stuff they used to talk

(58:25):
about and things is like, damn, there was a lot
going on in there because they ain't know either. And
just imagine you just in this little ass cell with
other people and you can't go nowhere and you're just
hearing on the news. They just watching the news like yeah,
this shit is spread. You should stay away from people,
like and you just in this big ass Mezsa all

(58:47):
eating with hundreds of people that had already had mad
health issues, a lot of them, and it's crazy. It's crazy.
But yeah, I agree with him. Think about it now,
like I think about going to like maybe working at
a that's really what I wanted to do, work at

(59:08):
it like a youth facility like a detention center or something.
As a social worker, I applied a couple couple of
places that didn't get hired, but then I got I
got trapped into the job I'm in. I always say
I got the state trap where like in social work,

(59:31):
this is probably the most money I would ever make
in social work working for the state. And you let
me just put it this way. When I first got
out of college, I I mean, I had a couple
of few jobs. But then when I settled with the state,
I think I was starting And this is what twenty

(59:52):
five years ago, I was starting twenty four twenty three
years ago, I was starting. Wait, yeah, twenty three years ago.
So what was my starting salary? Thirty five I think
thirty five thousand was my starting salary. That was with
the state, and every other job I applied, it was

(01:00:16):
jobs telling me and I only need a degree to
get that. It was jobs. A lot of jobs was
telling me I need a master's degree. And the jobs
that weren't telling me I need a master's degree were
like twenty two twenty three thousand dollars a year after
spending four years in college, you know what I mean?
I was like, damn, I was making that working for

(01:00:37):
a group home, like with no degree, just working and
you know, I worked over time, but still I was
making more money than that. And that's fresh out of school,
like with loans and all that shit. So I called
that the trap, like I got trapped in the state
because then you get the increment raises like every year

(01:00:57):
or so, which is built into your co track. So
then you start working so long there that it's hard
to quit because you're gonna take a massive pay cut
if you quit. And now, like it's almost it almost
would be impossible for me because I didn't go back
to get my masters or to get any further because
I didn't need it. So right now, you know, making

(01:01:20):
what I'm making, I don't want to tell my business,
but I make very good money and there's not many
places I could make that with a bachelor's degree, right
right even now with twenty years experience, they would be like, no,
I might be taking like a forty thousand dollars pay
cut if I go somewhere else. So yeah, so it's

(01:01:41):
just it's the trap. Is the money trap. Your lifestyle builds,
you know, your lifestyle builds towards with your money and unfortunately,
I mean, I'm learning now that to try to stay
the same the more money I make and try to
keep keep somewhat, you know, keep a rain on it.

(01:02:02):
But beneath your means, Yeah, I try. Oh yeah, I
just was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
I saw an A and E documentary on YouTube and
it says man's obsession with hookup apps puts him in danger.
Now that the title is click baby, yeah, because that
doesn't happen in the show, right, It's more so about

(01:02:35):
two different people who are.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
I thought, no, I didn't mean to cut you off,
but I thought it was saying they put him in
danger because he was addicted to it. But I didn't.
I didn't. I think you watched it, you saw the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Yeah, I didn't do it. I thought, oh, he was
on one of them apps and he met up with
somebody and something happened. That's and that got me to
watch the But I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Think that's why they would say it like yeah, yeah,
they do want people to think that because it is
it's probably clickbaity, but not clickbaity like clickbait is when
it has nothing to do with it with what they say. Yeah,
but I mean, that's a clickbaity title because you can't
think like that. I just thought that. I just thought

(01:03:28):
the different way, which is probably how they wanted to
word it like that for but the people that think
the other way, like something happened like somebody and then
try to kill him that, I'm sure they knew that.
People would think that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
You you thought put them in danger as it's unhealthy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's how I think,
because you know, being social worker, that's what I was
thinking about. I was like, yeah, I say it all
the time with my clients and they have you know,
they have cognitive disorders, so it's really not good for them,
but a lot of them's addicted to that ship. They

(01:04:07):
be going off like if if they ain't got their
tablet or they phone, Yeah, they fucking whild out. You know.
I'll deal with people with impulse control issues and things
like that, so they have other stuff going on with them.
But it's the same thing. It just we can disguise

(01:04:28):
a little better. It's not outward, you know, and it
might be inward like you might be feeling it, feeling
that that depression, that irritability that comes with not having
your fix.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Oh yeah, there was a so what this show is about.
It is, uh, what you're saying. There's two different people.
They look at and they they're addicted to their devices,
whether it be phones, tablet, you know. Uh and uh,
their families are trying to intervene, and they have like

(01:05:08):
you know, they have people that uh come to to
help them and put them in programs to try to
help them in order to see if they want to Yeah,
and uh so yeah, one of the guy is a
woman and the guy, and the guy was like one
of the things he said is one day he went

(01:05:29):
to work and he was just so into his phone
and stuff, and he said, I don't want to go
to work. I just rather be on the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
That's a real addiction. Yeah, that's that's like a real addiction.
Like that's one of the criterias of addiction is when
it hurts other aspects of your life. So, yeah, he
got it bad. Well, he had it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
He had they both by the end of it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I saw the girl, I mean I saw her talking
and she was like, I want to be on my
phone right or I wouldn't need my tab it right now,
Like I'm going I want to get on it right
now or something. She said I don't know. I don't
remember that part.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I do remember that the woman in it, she uh,
someone came to see her and talked to her about it,
and she agreed to spend the night off of her devices.
And it was like seventeen minutes and she was like
fuck that, Like I'm getting on my right she was
like whatever I'm getting on. She got back on her devices,

(01:06:31):
and that whole set that seventeen minutes seemed like a
long time. She looked like she was stressing out. She
probably was. I mean, it's a real addiction. You know
how many people are addicted to their devices.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
I mean I'm addicted to it, maybe not to that degree,
and I'm actively trying to control it. But like even
today I saw like while I was putting together and
putting up the hot Tail, I was like opening my
phone looking and I think it's part of my procrastination too,

(01:07:09):
for no reason, for no reason, Like there's no reason
I'm opening up the phone for no reason, Like I
just checked everything. I checked all my apps, which I
go through my little I go through the apps that
I that I look at and then check them all
and posted whatever that was it. I should have been
done and that's what I plan on door. Then I

(01:07:29):
started working, and I'm like, because I ain't feel like
doing whatever it was I was supposed to be doing.
So then I'm like, come on, miss twelve o'clock, let
me go check my email and check my email and
then come back do a little bit more than I'm
on my phone again without even realizing just and at

(01:07:51):
one point I was like, why the fuck am I
on my phone? Like I realized, I'm like, why did
I just open this for no, like no reason. I
already looked at it. What is that reason? Because I'm
addicted to it? Okay, like it it's just you know,
it's a habit, not even habits addiction because you can tell,

(01:08:13):
like when you're sitting down, what I do now is
I put my phone upstairs or I put it somewhere else,
like when I'm watching TV or I'm watching a movie
or something, I don't have my phone with me. But
I feel myself sometimes like then I'll be like, oh,
it's not even here, so I just won't. I won't
get up and go all the way upstairs to get it,

(01:08:36):
which is good, it's progress, but I got to where
i'll pick it up well, the only place is the
movies where I'm I'm very adamant about not touching my
phone at all once the movie starts. Other than that,
if I'm here, I gotta put my phone somewhere else.

(01:08:56):
But I'm not as bad as then I can I
can go. But you know, I thought, well, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
I don't think I'm as bad as them as they
were before they got better. But and I was saying
that too. But then like and part of the show
basically their average screen time each day is was fifteen
hours a day, and I'm like, that's a lot, but
I'm not that bad. And then I looked at I

(01:09:23):
got two I have two phones. And then I looked at.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
My you got two phones like that, yeah bad?

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
And then I'm like, oh snap, my screen time is
actually about that, about fifteen hours each day. Now I
drive tractor trailer. So you know, I wonder if that's
partly why. I don't know, Well, I don't know. One
day I was on a dating app. I looked at
one day I was on a dating app? Was it

(01:09:51):
last Friday? For ten hours?

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Jesus Christ? Yeah, like that's wild, Yeah, yeah, that yeah,
intervened time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
It probably wasn't ten out straight, but still like I
was surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
That's a lot. Yeah, I don't, Like I told you,
I'm I have five hours. I averaged five hours screen
time on my phone a day. Now that's not counting YouTube.
I don't use my phone to drive, I don't use
it for maps, and that's not that five hours, not

(01:10:30):
counting YouTube that I watch on TV, which I only
mostly watch YouTube on and mostly only watch it on TV.
So I look at that like I'm watching TV, which
could be bad in itself, watching a lot of TV,
but I don't look at it like I'm on my
fucking phone and screen time. I just don't look at

(01:10:52):
it like that because I'm looking at programs usually their
long form content. Usually I'm watching a movie or or
a reaction, so that's like least forty five minutes of video.
Like that's all I watch is that, And I watched
people play video games, so I don't look at it

(01:11:12):
like that. But at one time I was addicted to
video games, and like you can be addicted to anything.
People I try to tell, well, I don't try to
tell anybody anything no more, but I used to try
to tell people like you can be addicted anything. Anything
gonna be addiction in anything. It don't have to be

(01:11:34):
addiction for everybody. Like people and people, you gotta let
your biases go, you gotta let your ego go. Because
I know a lot of people that I know me personally,
when I've said that, people be like, oh man, there's
some bullshit, Like there's some boo shit because they're addicted
to this shit. They so you can be addicted anything.

(01:11:59):
Leave it at that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
What I realized from the show, and this may be
the case in every situation, is that in both cases,
with both people, there were underlying factors of why they
would go to their devices.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
One the guy it was like he found comfort in it,
and both of them really and the woman was like
running from something, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
I mean, it's just like a drug addiction. It's the
same thing, same exact thing. Like most people aren't addicted
to drugs because they just wanted to be addicted to drugs.
Like most of them were running from something or used
it as a comfort or a self medicating thing, and
they got addicted to it because it's so addicting, depend

(01:12:51):
on what it is, and that's just you know, that's
just what it is with addiction. That's always always the
underlining of addiction. Uh, you know, running, running or trying
to find comfort in it. And even with me, like
I can't admit that. I think me being on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Dating or hookup apps so much as like a way
of a way of like I said I said to
somebody before, like when I'm on there, I don't feel
so lonely or I don't feel lonely.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
It helps with help with that. Yeah, but maybe you
need that, Maybe you need to feel lonely, just like
people need to feel bored. That's the other thing, like
don't nobody can't nobody, nobody can be bored now a daze.
As soon as they get bored, they're going on their
phone or they doing something else or finding something to do.

(01:13:51):
Like being bored is and I said it in the past,
and I say it again. I keep saying it, like
being bored is basically your dopet mean, uh, the pleae
being being repped up, like you're feeling it, you're feeling it,
I should say, you're feeling your dopamine. Like that's basically
what boredom is, and it's a purpose to it. Doing

(01:14:17):
nothing like there's a purpose to it. But nowadays people
don't do nothing because even when they do nothing, they
have their phone and it's like, oh well, I can't
just not do nothing. It's a comfort. I gotta be
on my phone. That's why people I can't even imagine
how like the kids now, I don't know how many

(01:14:37):
meditate or into that. I know there's a few because
I see it see young people into some stuff, but
I just don't understand, like how how hard that is.
Probably for them it's hard period to meditate, but they
probably it's probably like ten seconds and then they like, like,

(01:15:03):
you know that that ship gotta be crazy. And and
I've felt like that before, so I know, I know
what it feels like. I don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
I don't like that feeling. I think that just the
effects that it can happen. Then I've experienced it, like
just having the brightness up and just looking at it
and then not being able to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Yeah, but I think that's one of the biggest negative
effects has had on me. I got like unopened male.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Well, I mean that too. You be you be oestrogen
it you be ostrogen your your male What you mean
is that what you call it? Ostrogen ostrogen, oestrogen. Ostrich
is the one that sticks his head and saying, right,

(01:15:55):
oh yeah, it's called I think they call it oestrogen,
but they usually use it in terms terms of finances,
like where you say, you go out on the weekend
or something, you just got the debit card and you
swipeing in there checking your account and then Monday come
and you're like I don't want you know, there's people
that be like I don't want to check the count.

(01:16:16):
So that's called ostrog where you know, it causes more
harm than good, but people feel like it's cool because
they ain't they ain't paying attention, but like it's harmful
to your financial you know, health, But I ain't doing that.
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
You know, like being on the phone so much it
can at least to procrastination or.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Is like that for me, that is procrastination, Like that's
one of the reasons I get on the phone is
to procrastinate, and that's what I've learned, Like that's one
of the owners. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
I don't think it is to procrastinate, but being on it,
I see it that I am doing doing that, like
because I'm looking at it like Okay, it's nine o'clock. Okay,
I get nine fifteen. That ain't gonna hurt nothing. Be
on nine fifteen, nine fifteen turning nine thirty yep, nine
forty five. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Yeah, See, your the vice addiction is turning into procrastination.
See I think I'm using it as a tool to procrastinate. Okay, yeah,
I think my procrastination is so bad that I feel
like I need to be doing something while I'm procrastinating,

(01:17:38):
or I feel like I'm procrastinating like it's weird. I
don't know if that makes sense to you. But if
I'm just procrastinating sitting here, I feel like shit, and
I'd be like, damn, what the fuck ain't I just
doing this? Then if I got my phone while I'm procrastinating,
I'm like, Wow, I'm mexically doing something. Mexically I'm checking

(01:17:59):
my email. Well, i'm checking, you know, I'm doing stuff.
It's business stuff in there, and it may be, but
that ain't why I'm checking. That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
The lady, the lady in the in the episode, right,
I got two phones?

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Right, she had like six tablet if it's a table lady,
she was like I got two phones and tablet.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
No, she had like six phones and the tablet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
I don't understand people that got understand two phones she
had carrying two.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Phones the display where she had like three screens, you know,
on her computer, like so she had one thing on one,
one thing on another, and whatever else she wanted on
the third. Like it was like, but it kind of
made sense because she had a background in like the
Navy or something where her job was like in tech,

(01:18:59):
like to to watch these certain screens for a long
long period of time. So it kind of made sense.
And then the dude he was like it was interesting
because he kept himself looking good, like for the internet,
you know, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like the way
he dressed his head cut like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
So he could take pictures. People.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Do I think he's did he go on four days
a day?

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Like Jesus Christ?

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
I ain't checking, but it said how many messages or
something he sends a day, right or the people he's
interacting with. But shoot, if I really, if I was
really able to keep tracking.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
See that right there, I couldn't. I could not do
like that. Addiction or not. I don't even want to
talk to the people I talked to every day, Like
I just I just do not be wanting to talk
to people, like it's weird. And I said that the other day.

(01:20:02):
I'm like, well, I posted a mean on my device,
but where I'm like, damn, what did he say? I
can't remember that. I forgot that quick. Oh it was
like I picked the people the ass job to not
be a people as person all we want to talking on.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
A wait are you a I just heard this recently.
An introverted extrovert is that it? No, I'm probably.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Uh extroverted introvert, okay, because I think I'm naturally introverted. Yeah, always,
And it's just sometimes I can be an extrovert, like
if I'm very comfortable with somebody or you know, depending
on who who it is, my friends or whatever. Like

(01:20:57):
I'm cool and out going with most people. I'm not
too that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
I'm like really really extroverted with people I'm comfortable with. Yeah,
you know, bro singing and stuff, dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
This is like the first generation or generations, some of
the first generations, who's had a phone since birth. It
is about almost and what that does to you. And
we may find that it's better, we may find that
they can deal with it better the kids because they've

(01:21:37):
always dealt with it. You know, sometimes adversity is because
it's something new, So we probably struggle with this stuff
more than they do, even though they you know, all
of it. They're saying they see a lot increasing ADHD
and stuff like that that I do think is more

(01:21:58):
the platforms than just having the phone. I think it's
more of the short form stuff and the switching and
all that that that plays into that part. But as
far as the damages that just having the phone all
the time does to like older people, I think it
would be less for younger people that that's always had it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
I mean, I don't know all, but I know I
know of some negatives when it comes to younger people,
like to where social media is like just it's like
kind of like it has to happen. You have to
have a presence on social media.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Yeah, now it's that's it, Like it's there's no way
and even and it's even like that for most most
of the people, most of the world, because I know
there's companies that only communicate through Facebook and stuff like that,
like like yeah, you almost do have to have it,

(01:23:01):
but yeah, you people.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Yeah, and it affects their self esteem, and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Well, yeah, that that stuff right there, and I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Even like so much like you can be embarrassed, like
in front of the whole school, you can be embarrassed
in front of more than the whole school. Like like
I've heard of instances where but.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Don't disappear now, don't nothing disappear now, that's the thing.
Like back when we were in school and got embarrassed,
Like we got embarrassed and it was in front of
the lunch room or whatever, or maybe the assembly, maybe
the whole school, but people forgot about it like a

(01:23:39):
couple of weeks later, like whatever. You know, it might
be lingering, maybe that one dude or bully or one
girl might say something about it all the time or
every now and then, but it was gone. But now
is you can watch it. They can watch it every
day and post it and do whatever they want with it.

(01:24:00):
Make your mean, do all that stuff. And yeah, so
so yeah, it's a lot of stuff they do have
to deal with.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
Yeah, like I've heard of like sex videos of people
being put online.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
I mean that's why they try and laws, don't you know.
I'm glad they have revenge born laws now. But like you,
it took so long for that to happen, and stuff
just moved so fast that it's so hard to get
stuff on the books.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
I can't imagine that, like having having a video of
me having sex being put and every and then I
gotta go to school next day.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Yeah, and everybody saw everybody. That's wild. That's terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
I think I think Bill Bird talked about that and
his uh it's specially he said, I'll be I'll be up.
I'll be watching people clean rugs.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
And yeah, like it's interesting. I mean it's relaxed, to
tell you truth, I've watched that. I watched you shine
videos smr shoe shine. The dude ain't talking, just shining up.
I watched that ship the relax like be watching like
for like an hour. It should be like an hour long.
Just watch him shine the fucking boots, like shining somebody boots.

(01:25:20):
Like that's wild as hell, and I'll just be sitting
sometimes i'd be feeling crazy, but it's like super relaxing.
Is the most relaxing I've ever been watching the videos.
So I watched Yeah like it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
But like speaking of like you know, not putting up
all yet eggs in one basket. I just heard a
story of this YouTuber I think his name is Wold
Maya and uh, he was talking about how his YouTuber
count got hacked and he lost like a million million,
one point six million subscribers. Now eventually he got some

(01:25:59):
help and he was able to get it his paced back.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
But that just taught him like not to you know,
to have all your eggs in one And it's hard
for you too, because there's no other platform really like YouTube,
Like there's other platforms you can use. You can make reels,
you can do tiktoks stuff like that, but there's no
real other platform like YouTube that got that draw that

(01:26:22):
got that recognition and the structure, the infrastructure, Like even
something new comes out, and I'm sure there will be eventually,
there'll be there'll be something new that that overtakes YouTube eventually,
but right now it's not. You know, I keep looking
for it though, so I can get on it, so
I could be first. That's why I'll be on all

(01:26:44):
these platforms because I'm like, you don't know what's gonna
take off, Like someone might disappear, like there's been a
few that just disappeared, but some might take off listen
Tom Tom, Tom had the right idea space time my space. Yep.
He sold my space for like five hundred million, and

(01:27:06):
now he's a photographer, like you just be taking pictures
and you can do whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Sounds like it wasn't even his passion.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Like yeah, well, I don't know because he I think
he just scaled it up. And that's what a lot
of people do with businesses though, but that's what a
lot of people feel like businesses are you scale them
up and sell them to whoever. You know, you make them,
scale them and that's what you're doing it for, to sapay.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
So he sold it, So what happened to it?

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
It's still around, Like whoever bought it, it's probably a company,
probably a hedge fund or something.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
So it's like it's like five hundred million. So it
like they didn't get their money's worth out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I don't know. I don't know what they made from
since then. But it stayed around and been around constantly
since he sold it, But it just wasn't It's not
as popular because Instagram came along, Facebook started getting more popular.
So my space is still going. Yeah, my space is
still round. You still got a MySpace space. I don't know.

(01:28:11):
I don't know if the old pages are still uh there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
You know when I was watching that uh that episode
about the people being addicted to their devices, the lady
had like six phones. I kind of like envator, Like,
oh man, yeah, I would want that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
But when it's the purpose of that, Like, what's the
purpose of having two phones? Well?

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
The purpose is like for me, one of the one
of the purposes was when one dies, I still have
the other one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Okay you know, Oh that's that's a practical purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
And then like for me, why while I'm driving? I
wasn't the only reason though, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
Huh no, no, no, no, no, Like so I can have
when I'm driving, I can have the map up on one,
oh okay, and then I can still have something on
the other one. Okay. Uh yeah, did I have any
other purposes?

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
So y'all ain't got y'all ain't got built in navigation?

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Oh no, you got to have a GPS. You have
to have a GPS and uh yeah, so I guess
they like I could even have a separate device for that,
but I used Google.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
I ain't worfect because you can on our tablet.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Well it is, it would be to have a truck GPS.
But I've been okay without it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
It seems like that you gotta update it and do
all that ship and the truck. Yeah, keep it updated,
keep it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
In my experience, I didn't. I didn't. Well, oh, I
see what you should. You should I see what.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
You're saying, Like like when you use Google and stuff,
this is constantly updated. Yeah, so you know, you know,
and ship's closed, you know, and uh, some roads change
names change for roads yearly or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
So it must be. It must be connected to the
internet somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Those those GPS is, well, some of them can can
be like so you can update them.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
What truck periodic? What truck GPS is.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
A truck GPS different from regular GBS.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Yeah. One thing they're good for us, Like you have, uh,
you have low clearances.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Oh, so tell you clearances. So they tell you that
on Google. Don't no, no, no, no. Google is set
for like cars. You know. I don't know if but
I thought they were because you still got the you know,
you still got bridges and overpasses that have you know, signs,

(01:30:50):
and uh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
I don't I don't see I don't see any notifications
of signs that come up on Google for for low clearance.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Yeah, I mean I didn't know, but I just know
their signs on the road for the Yeah, it seems
like it would. Yeah, so it seems like it would
come up on the GPS. I know on uh on
ways it does. Okay, Yeah, it give you you can
click on there and.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
But see what happens with the trucks GPS. I don't
like waves though, instead of just instead of showing you
a sign, I use it. It won't even rap you.
That the way of a low clearance okay.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Yeah, on the other way, Yeah, the only rot you
said it what your clearance is and then it around
anything that's lower. Yeah that's dope. Yeah that's how that works. Yeah.
Ways might be able to do that. But I don't
like ways because waves be really taking you the shortest
route possible. That bit to take you through somebody house
if they want. If it's short, that should it take

(01:31:47):
you through somebody backyard like this should be wild. Some
of the roads they be taking you down. So I
don't like it because some of that I only want
to go down some of them back roads and ship
it'll be taking you back no pavement road ship like
that because it's shorter, like five minutes shorter. Go this way,
go through this football field and turn left at the school.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
I mean with me, I just I got like I'm
pretty familiar with my route now, So I.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Say, you've been driving so long where you're going.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
And then if I go through a new way, like
I just try to keep my eyes, like you know,
be aware and look for signs and you know, and
if me if a road don't look right for me
to go down, I just won't go down and like
you know, like for for tractor trailer. So yeah, and

(01:32:39):
then you know I've been I've been lucky. I've been lucky.
Like there have been times. There was one time I
went this one way and I got all the way
down this road way down and there was a low
clearance and there was no clear way to just turn
around back up a while. I had to back up
a wild watch traffic.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Always wondered about that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
And then like there was finally there was a spot
where after like turn around.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
I've been watching the uh, the the bridge, the can
opener eleven eleven for eight, eight for seven, all right,
it's called eleven for eight. Uh, here it is eleven
for eight bris. There's a whole uh, there's a whole
YouTube dedicated to it. But they did everything they had

(01:33:29):
to put this still bar up. They had the Now
they got these lights that blink if you're over, like
they got sensors and ship don't nobody be paying attention?

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
And this is a box truck, like they probably, oh yeah,
that might be as told as to try to trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Yeah that's a big one, but you can get them
small ones. Oh yeah, and see it'd be flashing. People
don't be paying attention though, yeah, like you turn around,
who ain't trained for that? Like it be the rental trucks,
the big ones and the busses, like they'd be knocking
the airs off, the air conditions off the buses because

(01:34:08):
the bus can fit but the air can't, so it'll
be knocking the mutes off. I'm like, I know they be.
I wonder if they'd be getting fired.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
And I mean, like, how about like put a patrol there,
like put some kind of patrol.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
I think they used to have a cop out there
and it still wasn't helping because the cop be like
and the people, you know, it's hard for a truck
to slow down, so the truck be hauling ass and
by the time they slow down, and like I seen
a couple of when they had the cop out there
and the people just stopped and they'd be like, you know,
they ain't the ship the old ship up, but it's

(01:34:44):
like stuck. So I don't know if they had to
back up or what. Yeah, that's that's crazy. All right, people,
we're gonna bring this session to a club. Those I
thank you for joining us to day Boy. We'll catch
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