The Crown, The Mic, & The Multiverse

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, feel the girl.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Feel. I don't know if I want to say this
on the pod, but I used to focus only y'all hurts.
I had many gifts, but that was my own curse.
But hold up, wait a minute. Stuff that I need
to focus on now, not that. Get your mom right.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
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I'm one of your hosts of What We're Thinking podcasts.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
To my right, I got bricon, Hello, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Bright?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Hello, what's happening?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I gotta get that right?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Hello, Hello, what's up with you?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh? Man? You know, feeling like.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Full, feeling fool yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Man, feeling like big people noticing my weight game. You
know that ain't great shit. I went to the doctor.
I think I waited like two point fifty one something
like that. So I do want to I do want
to eat. I do want to lose weight. I'm enjoying eating,

(01:12):
enjoying eating, you know, Crab season, that's not.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
How you lose weight. I mean, you can still enjoy
eating and be healthier. But yeah, that's yeah, I gotta
tap into that. This crab season has just begun. Yeah,
the past couple of weeks, me and my mom been
enjoying some.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Crabs grabs it up. Yeah, don't eat crabs.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm allergic to crabs, and plus I don't like the
way they taste it.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
So oh no, I love it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
What else been going on?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh? Shoot? Uh? Should we get right into it?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Get into it? Thunderbolts?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh yeah, thunderboats. I saw thunder boats me too. Yeah,
it was pretty It was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah. Yeah. It was pleasantly surprised because I really wasn't
that interested in it. I didn't have much interest in
it at all, but my nephew wanted to see it,
and uh, but I don't know, I got a little interest.
Like I've been watching Black Mirror and I saw an

(02:21):
episode with was it Wyatt Russell? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I
saw an episode with Wyatt Russell and he was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah. It's funny because i've seen him. I know, when
he was in Falcon and Winter Soldier. I was like,
who is this dude? But then I realized I've seen
him and a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know who his parents are?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, Goldiehn and Kurt Russell.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah yeah, uh yeah, but I've seen him in stuff
and I didn't realize I've seen him in stuff because
when he was in facton Winning Soldier, I thought it
was the first time I seen him.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
He looked just like his dad. It's that they both
in Marvel movies too.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah. Wait, do they have any scenes together? Nah?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, because he was in Guardians Kurt Russell's and Guardians
and you know they weren't even around. H I hope
they make that happen like well Ego did so yeah.
I mean, ain't nobody really ever did in in comics?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
So am I mistaking was Kurt Russell? But wasn't Kurt Russell?
Was he two characters or one? Nah? He's the one.
But wasn't he.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Working with You're thinking the Sylvester's stallone. No, I'm talking
about in the Marvel where he was working with the Avengers.
In the real world he was wearing a suit and stuff.
Where am I thinking of somebody else?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I think you're thinking somebody else.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
He was held Ego the Living Planet and which is
Peter Quill's dad, and they killed him at the end
of spoil Alert. I mean, if you ain'ts all the
end of Guardians too, if you ain't all Guardians too
by now? But yeah, they killed him at the end
of Guardians too.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
So who's the legendary actor in the black suit that
was working alongside with the Avengers if I'm if I'm
thinking of everything right?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know who you're talking about. Okay,
it's uh the only other Like, well, there's a lot
of legendary actors in Marvel. Michael, Yeah, Michael Douglas. Uh,
that's one.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
And you have.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Oh that was the head of Shield while he was
head of Hydra. I can't remember his name. That's fucked up,
Sorry dude, but we know you're a legend though, you're
a legendary actor.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, I think that is Michael Douglas who I was
thinking of. Robert Redford.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's the other necessary actor that is in Marvel. I
mean there's a lot, you know, a lot of great
actors in Marvel, but they're like legends.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
So like, I think there was actually a scene where
he had to like fight, he had to some enemies
was coming and then it was him and some Marvel
people and he had to participate in the fight. Michael Douglas,
you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I don't remember unless it was a man three Quantomanium.
I mean he fought in that. They was fighting. I
didn't see that one. Yeah, he was fighting in that.
And then man one when he punched dude in the mouth,
but that ain't really a fight. But I don't even

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know if that was him half them scenes probably ain't.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Uh, probably doubles me and my mom was watching in
the heat of the night.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
In the heat of the night, like.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Tips, right, Tips was fighting this dude. You know you
when you watch old stuff and you're like that ain't
even him.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, listen, I saw one. Oh no, no, that was
Michael Jordan's You ever seen Michael Jordan's highlight tape? Like
he had a tape out where he used to bring
out tapes all the all the time, like Air Jordans
and and you know, just highlights and little little you know,

(06:45):
the basketball tapes back in the day, Come Fly with
Come Fly with Me, stuff like that. So he had
one where his mom was with him, don't. I mean,
I think they were trying to be funny too, you know,
but dude who played his mom that it was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
When it changed when he had to go, don't it
was like six five. He had a little air fro
like a I did, it came down and then it
was his mom, I'm like, this ship is wild.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I saw that. That's funny. Yeah, that was my come
flat with me. That was my favorite one. I used
to you know, you ever when he was a kid,
you used to have like a whole videotape memorized, and
when it come on, you could you could say the
whole thing word for word. Yeah, sing alone listen. I

(07:35):
wasn't quite sure what I've done, but you know, I
just really loved that feeling.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Damn, you sound like Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Man.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
That was the good old days. I missed them tapes
because they used to be you know that was before
and one that was before all that stuff. So that
was it. That was the only way you could really
like see something like that, whereas the showcase of one
person and all their little highlights and stuff like now
you turn on YouTube and be like highlights and then

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they got they probably got those tapes on there too.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Oh yeah, but shoot, I might have to look that
up now that you said that. Yeah, well, go back
down memory lane. I used to love that.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I see people reacting to him, uh, you know, people
that younger people don't know nothing about Michael Jordan. Let's
see him reacting to those tapes.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Let you think Lebron's gonna Do you think he's coming back? Yeah, okay,
I think so.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I was ain't never really I don't think he really
got to play with his son like you want if
that's the only reason he comes back, Like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
He got five rings, right, I was thinking about, like, okay,
so what if he gets six rings? Like what how
would the argument look?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
It ain't gonna be no difference because anybody that's I
don't I don't think it is. I don't think the
argument is ever gonna change just because of the nature
of everything. Like people whoever it's for Jordan, I don't
think they're ever not gonna be for Jordan. Like I
don't think it could ever come around to anybody being

(09:23):
better than Jordan. Stephen stat personally, I think Lebron is
better than Jordan.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Do you think Lebron is better?

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
You said, sta.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Stephen Stadt and complete basketball player, he's better than Jordan.
But like it's so much, it's so much other stuff.
It's just like having a hip hop conversation. Like it's
it's like having a hip hop conversation, Like it's so
so much intangible stuff that goes into that conversation with him,

(09:53):
Kobe Lebron, and and there's other stuff that people bring
into the conversation that can be I mean, it can
be relevant, but I don't think it's a big contention.
Like everybody, what they're gonna say when Lebron retires is well,
he played way longer than Jordan, even though they forget
Jordan played when he was forty and is uh, when

(10:17):
he was on Washington, he was trash. I mean, I
don't really what you about to say. You don't count that,
not really, no, And that's that's just what it is.
Like people are gonna be like they don't count that,
they don't count he was trash and Lebron I don't.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Know if he was stressed and he scored like fifty like.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
No, I think he did.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I think he went on that. Yeah, yeah, he went
off from one of them.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Games edited in this thing because Bryson is correct, he
averaged twenty point six point one rebounds and three point
eight assists, which is far from trash.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Always been mic for me. And I don't know, I
can't say I agree with you. You saye stat wise
and well I said, yes, the Lebron dominate the league
sixth seasons straight.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well for twenty years. Really no, but that's no, that's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
No, he didn't win championships. He didn't win even six
championships and he didn't win championships.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, championships, I mean championships and championships out of Michael
George's mouth itself, like he's like that don't matter.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
No, it matters because when when players don't have them
and they're constantly teased about nothing, That's what I'm saying, Like,
that's you know, Jordan was saying like that, that's a
mute point. Like at the time I was coming up,
it was Mike and he was just like fascinating to watch.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, I mean that's the truth. Like nobody can take
away from from that. But that's part of the intangibles.
You know. At that time, I know a lot of
you know, I know a couple of people from Detroit
and shout out to Eric.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
He's like, nah, I just know what we did to Jordan.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
So he's like he always says that, he's like, I know,
I witnessed this shit where we fucked Jordan up every year.
He couldn't get past then for a long time until
they got the pieces that Jordan needed.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
That's the other thing I always tell people.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I'm like Jordan was in losing, Like he didn't come
in like Lebron and totally change the game. It took
time for him.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
You said Lebron came in totally changed the game.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, Lebron came to a team that was thirty and
ninety and turned into a sixty and twenty team like
first season. Yeah, but straight out of high school with nobody.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Went seven years without winning the championship.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, there was a reason for that because he ain't
have zero people. He turned them into a winning team
though for the foreseeable future, until he left.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
And there was a reason he tried to stay. Jordan
stayed on the bulls. He ain't going try to join
you know, the star, other star they was his. There
was the Ops. He ain't gonna try to join the ops.
He stayed with them.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Os joined him, he saying, like they came and joined them.
He still needed people. And and that's the thing, like
if you're in a if you're in a that's why
I never I never respect that argument, because if you're
on the team and they're not giving you nothing, like

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Jordan knew running that he Jordan was running running, you
know he he had just as much say as anything.
Once that team got to a certain point.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Here's another part of the argument. Role players joined Jordan
the stars of the team didn't. It wasn't didn't all
conglomerate on one team.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, those role players would have been stars on different teams.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's the thing. Like Scottie Pippen is a star on
any other team.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
But but what I'm saying star period, Now, there.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Were there's there were stars. This is what happened with Lebron.
There were stars. They got together back then, those they
it wasn't like they were stars and then came to
the Bulls and we all stars on the Bulls like
you know, so I mean Ron, I think Robin became
a bigger star on the.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Bull because because of Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Like okay, so, so I'm saying visibility, not his skills,
Like he had skills coming right, why they brought him there,
right and and Cleveland wasn't doing that Like that's why
he left, right, But it was Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Mike can't never do nothing like you know with Boss
and Wade and Lebron all on one team, or with
Steph and k D. He never he never did nothing
like that. He stayed with that team. I don't think
that matters until that team got better and you talk
about the truth. That's what I'm saying. That's why Mike

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put on that extra weight when he got all big.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
But that's all I'm saying. He stayed on there like
Cleveland wasn't getting any better, Like he stayed there as
long as he could, asking for for true Yeah, I don't,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I don't knock Lebron.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
He stayed there as long as he good asking for people.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
I don't knock him for that. But when you when
you're trying to say he better than Jordan, I got
to speak.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I said, fundamentally, he's a better basketball player than Jordan.
I'm not saying I'm not taking anything just because you
say that. It doesn't mean like I'm taking stuff away
from Jordan. I'm just saying Lebron's the most complete basketball
player I've ever seen, period, And it's one of the
reasons he gets so much criticism for last second shots

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because he'll pass the ball because he'll make the most
and that's that's the only place where I hated that.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
But that's not complete.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
But that is complete because if he can't close it
out himself, that he can't close it out, he's making
the best possible basketball play like Jordan was, Like Jordan
was a ball. He can't clutch, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
But it's not about him not being able to complete
in the yes, and he's done it in the past.
It's not him competing in the clutch. It's in the clutch,
he making the best possible basketball play that he can make.
Where somebody like Jordan or Steph for somebody else, I
don't care, Like they don't care if he's double the

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double team, I don't care if if it's not the
mentality of Lebron.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Making that best decison, did it always turn out right?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
No, because of somebody else.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like if you make the best possible decision and the
person's wide open and he misses the shot, how you
blamed Lebron for that? Like that's what I never understood,
Like how you blame Lebron for that? Like he made
the best possible he was double team triple teams sometimes
so he passed it to the open person, open.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Situation where Lebron could have took control, could have took
that shot.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
There's a lot of situations where he did.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I mean, and I'm sure it hurt him to do
because he's like, listen, this game is easy. But the
thing that I don't think Lebron ever, one of the
things I don't think Lebron kind of understood in his
career is the fact that everybody ain't Lebron, Like there's

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only one Lebron, and I don't think he understood that.
You know, he was looking at trust in his teammates truck,
you know, and he got it later on, and there's
plenty of highlights of him taking the last last shot,
like plenty you can look it up on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I just you know, I just want to say I
don't knock Lebron at all. I like Lebron James, it's
just when it comes to comparing him to Jordan, just
for me, just for me, it's always Jordan. So that's
where the pushback comes from.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
So I grew up on Jordia, Yeah, I did too.
I mean, I've watched Jordan, like I've seen him coming
into the league, I was watching basketball religiously when he
first came into the league. You know, I was watching
even before that. So yeah, I mean, Jordan is always

(18:51):
gonna be my guy if we're talking basketball. But as
an objective observer, Lebron is the most complete basketball player
I've ever seen. So, and like I said, there's a
lot of intangibles that come with that.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Let me ask you this, and this is not a
not till Lebron James or nothing like that, because I
haven't necessarily experienced it, and I don't know if it's
I don't, But is Lebron James as exciting to watch
as Jordan was? To me?

Speaker 1 (19:32):
He is, and you can say I can understand people
saying he was, you know, I can say that, you know,
because he is forty years old and been in a
league between fifteen years two thousand and fifty years. So

(19:55):
these days he's not as exciting to watch. I mean,
he's still he still has bursts that are super exciting,
especially at his age. Like some of those playoff games
I saw, you know, I was like, oh shit, like that.
He was the only person getting me hyped in those

(20:16):
playoff games, which is why probably why they lost, because
he would take over the game, but they were playing
him the whole fucking game, Like playing forty minutes forty
minutes a game like at his age is crazy to me,
Like that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
And he's tired.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
If people people don't people, you know, he might look
like he ain't. He's still putting up twenty five a
game like all that shit. You know, still liked averaging
the most on his team ship like that is while
at his age.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
But he's still getting tired and people don't, you know.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
So I can definitely say that he's not as exciting
to watch but he was when he came in the league.
Like I think people forget because it's so long ago.
Is high school, dude.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I think, Like I think. What I can say now
is that I can't properly. I can't object objectively judge
Jordan versus Lebron like I was there when I was
like when I was younger, I was there watching every
game I could find of Jordan, like you know.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Me too. But I can be objective.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
But when when Jordan retired Jordan, I didn't watch basketball
like that, no more like the closest thing, the closest
thing after Jordan retard.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I stopped for a little while too, I stopped watching.
I got back to it.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I got back in a little bit when Cleveland and
Golden State was going back. They kept meeting in the
finals every year, like and even then I wasn't watching
it so much as like listening to it on the
radio and stuff. But but yeah, so I can't really
be objective like I like Lebron like, but like I

(22:09):
guess I'll remember how Jordan made me feel, how I
wanted to be like Mike, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, No, I mean that's that's relevant, and I think
that's part of the intangibles that I talk about in
this discussion. Like there, you know, it's just stuff that
like that that that put will put him ahead, especially
if you are from a different era and you didn't

(22:38):
really watch this era, like I can say. You know,
I was an avid watcher of basketball until the last
couple of years, where I watched everything, all games, all
especially playoffs. Like when the playoff time came, I watched
every single game that was broadcasted or every game that

(22:59):
I could. So I've been a fan forever, and I
feel what you're saying, like Jordan, Jordan's Jordan, and there
was nothing like Jordan's before Jordan. You know, people can
say it's some greats, don't get me wrong, but you know,
he came in the league like it was. It was different,

(23:22):
not even when he came in like later on, later on,
it was it was different.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
There may be some people, older people that may say
there's some older people that ain't nothing like them. Yeah,
they look.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Like Bill Russell, Kareem eleven rings is wild. But again,
like I mean, just because he got eleven don't make
him better than Jordan. Just because he got eleven rings,
I don't think he's better than Jordan.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I don't know Bill Russell. I think because somebody, somebody
older Mike could come in here and have an argument.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, they could have an art. You wasn't there. You
wasn't there looking at this. I was in the stadium.
I said, you can be in the state of all
you want. But objectively speaking, you know, I mean, if
you look at their fundamentals. Not not taking anything from
Bill Russell though, I mean Bill Russell was a beast,

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but he was big as fuck too, and that all
that stuff playing to it, all that stuff playing to it.
That's why it's hard to compare errors anyway.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
You know who's exciting though, And like I said, and
none of this, I'm not taking nothing away from Lebron.
I'm sure. I'm sure I watched Lebron and like you know,
enjoyed watching Lebron. Steph Curry is exciting. Steph Curry like.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
He's exciting to me. Sometimes sometimes the game is born
to me, but it's some I think he's exciting to
watch towards the end of the games when they are
on the line, like when the game's on the line,

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because of how he can change the game.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Unfortunately, got hurt.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
This year, so he got They team got fucked up.
They team looked like it's crazy. I mean, they wasn't
that good anyway, Like they barely made the playoffs anyhow
with Steph, but without him, they look like a fucking
bad high school game. Look like a bad high school
team watching that game, watching the game.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Are they still in it? No? They gotta put out.
For one, my opinion is somebody who don't really watch
basketball no more. I just remember some years ago when
Steph changed the game.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I mean he did he I think, for one, I
think Steph's name is not brought up enough in the
greatest conversation.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, I was. I was in Massachusetts. I was joking
with one of the guys. I was joking with these
guys at the warehouse. I was like, oh, y'all, are
y'all about to get swept? And one dude was like, no,
we got, we got we won the game. And then
the other dude was like, you can leave now. Listen,

(26:28):
they won't be playing with the with their teams. Man
to the one guy, I said, well, I just said
I didn't know the Knicks were that good. He was like,
they're not, he said, I think he said we just sucked. No,
they're good.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
He just trying to downplay the rock where they were.
I hope they because the Celtics playing better without Tatum.
Yeah that's wild actors. Uh but yeah, what what you
thought of Thunderbolts?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I thought I was pleasantly surprised, Like I said, like,
I went to see it and I was sitting in
the theater and as I was, oh, this is really good.
This is just good, like you know, and I think,
like I think said, I would give it like maybe
a four point two five out of five stars high.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, yeah, and only only that low.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Because well that high only not more, not higher because
oh no spoilers right.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Uh, don't matter. Been a couple of weeks. There's a
there's a there's a spoiler alert for anybody that hasn't seen.
I don't know where you can fast forward or try.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
But there's a scene towards the end of the movie
where it's like the different rooms of shame, you know, uh,
having to do with what's his name? Void Void? Yeah,
And uh So, although I think that is that part
is really important. I think it's a touching part is

(28:07):
the part that people can relate to, that whole thing
of you know, being at that point in one's life
where they just they're just going through the motions. They're
not really happy, they feel a void or depressed, and yeah,
you know I related to that. And I think the part,
the part coming out of the the rooms was really important.

(28:30):
When what's her name the main character, uh yeah, when
she she grabs on to him and just says I'm here.
I think that's that was really important. And they all
did that and and they they all came out of
that place. So I think that was that was important.
But what happened was the movie was building building, building

(28:53):
action like fat stuff like that's the old nineties word
fat and bringing it back, but just like awesome stuff,
cool stuff like and then it slowed down at that point,
so that kind of like you know, that's why I
wouldn't give it higher than four point two.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Fo Yeah, see I gave it, well, I did one
to ten, so I gave it a seven. Okay, Yeah,
And the only reason I gave it a seven was
some of it didn't hit for me. Yeah, it wasn't
a bad movie at all, like like seven is a
good score like I gave. I gave Captain America eight.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Okay, I don't want to interrupt you, no, but but.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I love I loved a lot of it though. I
I think it was it was a great showing of
just human a year's story, for one, but showing also
like human regular humans can relate to it, but showing
like how these heroes are real people. You know, it's

(30:08):
not like people don't even think, even the ones with powers,
they're just human beings. They may be enhanced, they may
be whatever, but they still have the same emotions as
everybody else, and they still go through stuff. Sometimes more
because you've seen your Lena how like she's just doing
her job, going through the emotions, just killing people, doing whatever,

(30:31):
and it was, you know, no fulfillment in her life
at all, and with her family issues, all that stuff
played into a part. And I think, like you said,
a lot of people can relate to that and being
in and I just think Void, you know, he went
through a lot of stuff because like how you're saying

(30:53):
in the beginning, like he wasn't special or anything like
why I don't know why you know I'm here or whatever,
like and even he seemed to think about killing himself
a couple of times, and.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Like, I think that that was powerful.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I love how they did him century Void because I
personally when I saw that he was gonna be in
a movie when I saw the previews, I don't know
if everybody, people that didn't know comics probably didn't know
who that was, but I knew who it was from
the from the first trailer, and I was like, I

(31:30):
don't know how they gonna do that ship because he's
so powerful that I think they did it perfect doing
it like this, especially he was just getting his powers.
He don't you know, he don't know where his powers
are gonna go. Eventually. I think he can control Void
and not bring him out, but I think he does

(31:52):
come out sometimes, and it's weird because he's a bad guy,
good guy, Like I don't even they say anti heroo,
but I don't even consider an anti hero because when
he's Century, he is a good guy, and when he's
Void is bad.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I don't know. He was whoopings.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Oh yeah, like he you know, he has to go.
I think he had to do that. Yeah yeah, And
I think they showed that really well, Like they showed
how easy it is for him because he has so
many powers, telling cans, flight, strength, Like how.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Do you think the old Avengers would have fared against him?

Speaker 1 (32:35):
They would have got sucked up too.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
He might have ripped thor in half like he did
the Aries. Who knows.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I mean they would have put up a fight, but
he's so strong that you know, I think he might
have beat Thanos.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Century or Superman.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's the age old question, Like that's what they always.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Centuries, Marvel Superman. Uh one of them? Did they bite?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
I don't know, because I'm not sure what came first,
because both comics bite everything. I'm assuming Superman was first.
Superman is like one of the first Superheroes, so I
would assume he is Oh that's so, that's what is
what he really looked like. Oh yeah, because I didn't
like the outfit at first. I mean, it does look

(33:25):
I didn't think they got it exactly right. It does
look cheesy, but that's what it is with a big belt.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
What are the parts that didn't hit for you?

Speaker 1 (33:40):
I don't know. The pacing was weird to me sometimes,
even though I enjoyed it, Like it's hard for me
to explain because when I when I left the movie theater,
I definitely want to see it again. I don't know
if I'm gonna go to the movies to see it again.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I want to see it because I saw it in
three D and three D.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
D.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I saw that it was x D real D three
day that's what I had the glasses on, and that
was cool. I do I do think they say, like
get some classes that like like couple all of this. Yeah,
that's why I don't like.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
I like my three D here because it does have
to wrap around so I can block the light out.
But yeah, I sometimes get a headache in the movie theater,
so I don't like doing it no more. I used
to like it, but because they had it was in
IMAX three D too. At Cherry Hill.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
It's cool seeing things in the foreground in the three D,
but then in the background, what's kind of blurry. Yeah,
that's how it always is, okay, But in IMAX is
not like that.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
It's like that.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
It is three D. Yeah, three D is like no,
not not not regular iMX Oh no.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
No, no, okay, yeah, I mean unless it unless it
depends on how the shot was, because if you're shooting,
you know, if you're shooting faces or whatever, the background
is gonna be blurry, but you know, or depending on
what shot, like you can shoot a person and the
background is always gonna be blurring.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
It's interesting because I was watching one scene it's like
it should look like this, but in three DS, like
there's one dude standing here, and there's other dudes standing
here and here and here and here, and it's like, wow,
they really look like it's three D. That's three D.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
But shouldn't it look like that even if you if
you no, because it's not three DS. That's the point
of three D. It's in the three D space. But yeah,
I don't know that. I'm trying to think of some
of the intangibles that or maybe it is intangible my

(35:49):
favorite word today. Yeah, like the some of it and
it did. It wasn't like it bored me or anything,
like I didn't get bored at anytime.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
I just.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I don't know. Just the patient was kind of it
seemed off to me even how also them uh wasting
task Master was a crime man that, like, I was
pissed off because one of the reasons I was pissed
off is because Marvel did their favorite things and in

(36:26):
the trailer when they're all standing in the tower, it's
all of them, but in the movie it was you know,
was out of it. So and I don't know why
they did that, Like it didn't make sense to me,
like they could have figured it out. I don't know.
It just it just seemed weird to me, Like it

(36:46):
seemed like they just wanted to insert her one more
time and didn't get rid of her, like not the user.
And I have no idea why she just had me, yeah,
like just to die. And like I said, it didn't
make any sense to me. It didn't make any sense
to me. So it that threw me off because I

(37:08):
thought she was gonna come back a live. I thought
maybe it was a.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Fake or I don't know, but I was like, oh,
I guess she really did.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
They really just killed her just like that.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
It just shot her.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
And I don't know if they're gonna reboot task Master.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Maybe they were.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Maybe they were hearing everybody get upset, so they're like,
all right, we're gonna bring in the real task Master
or not the real the person in the comic who's
task Master because it's a guy.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Maybe they'll maybe they'll do that because the technology is
still in there.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
No, no, they burned it up. It ain't still in there.
That shit gone with her.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
It's a lot to consider, like because I was just
thinking about that now. Well at the end, not to
interrupt you because I do, Yeah, yeah, go ahead. I
ain't done, but I wanted to say a few things.
One I like, can you google please the name of

(38:06):
the actress who plays what's her name? Yeah, yeah, she's
she's good.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
She's good.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Others, she was my favorite character in the Black Widow movie.
She just she's just her energy.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Has a yeah that like she she's great, Like she's
just a great uh.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
And see if you see this. She's like a female
van Damn to me. She looks like Van Damn. To me,
she acts like Van Damn. To me, she talks like
Van dam She probably is a better actor than Van
dam But.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Well, yeah, I don't know. I don't see that. You
don't see it, like, yeah, somebody out there can relate.
I mean she's from the same place that she is.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
She's from I think.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I mean in the in the movie, ain't he Russian?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
No, he from a Brussels. I think Brussels. Oh, I
don't want to say the wrong country, but Brussels. They
called them the muscles from Brussels. And I think he's.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Okay, Yeah, Florence Peg. I couldn't remember her now. I
want to see other stuff because she's been a lot
of stuff. She's uh, she's she's good. But I love
her as that character. Yeah, I do too. I'm glad
they brought her in. I think she I mean you
can say this was her movie.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Really, Yeah, you don't see it at all. She don't
look like talk like Vandam, at like Vandam. I don't
see like female Vandam to me, like, yeah, I don't
see it. I mean only because she's fighting.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
But no, I'm talking about looks and I mean she
got an accent, yeah, the way she talks. But yeah,
I don't I don't see it. I don't see it.
But then again, I ain't seen VANDAM in forty years.
I used to watch well when I was ten, I
used to watch.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I watch for years. I watched like I used to
watch everything.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, I loved him, but I ain't watched, not in
thirty years. Like really, but you remember, right, you remember?
I remember, but it's not ringing the bell?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Don't see it? Yeah, I don't see that. I don't
see that. The other thing is Theason was saying that
at the end. So now so the name.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Changed, Yeah, yeah, the new the New which has been
changed everywhere so people know.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
And it's like I was skeptical coming into this movie, like, oh,
do they deserve that? But the thing about it is
I really liked them, right, I really like this team
and and I think, uh, I'm mad at.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Bucky though, but why because he's not being a good
friend to Sam.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Oh, but.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
That's Bucky. That's their m though, that's their m but
who knows, Like will they all merge? Yeah, that's that.
That was my point. I think, I think they may
at one point. I mean there were two teams. There
were Avengers and New Avengers and the Young Avengers, which
they are making the Young Avengers, but eventually they have

(41:18):
to merge. But see the New Avengers had Wolverine on it,
like it was, so this is different. Bucky was on
the New Avengers, but like they it was like Spider Man, Wolverine,
Winter Soldier. It was a bunch of people. It was
a bunch of people. And they will still do that.
I mean they could, yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. Like,

(41:40):
but I don't know if they're going to combine them
to like the Avengers or And they had Avengers West Coast,
so that could happen. But I think the Wasp and
ant Man was on Avengers West Coast and the yeah
they are they're in San Francisco. Yeah, so I didn't.
I just put two and two together and now so

(42:01):
I think they're still in San Francisco, so they could
do the Avengers West Coast too, But.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
That don't really makes sense to me. The Avenger is
supposed to be for the world.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
You're on the East coast, like the only person that's
gonna be able to get to trouble on the West
Coast is uh door and and doctor Strange just like
that's it. It's just gonna be two all of them
going to the West Coast because the rest of everybody's
gotta either fly Tony's gonna take some time.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, but that long.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
That shit gonna take six hours.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Motherfucker. Building is gonna be done by day.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
They got they got to have something like that could
be like all right, well, everybody, everybody go, here's my magic.
Everybody go there.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah that doctor Strange could do that. Doctor Strange could
do that. But I mean, like, are you gonna do
that and then leave this side open or you know,
you're just gonna have a whole nother team to handle
business on the other side of the world or the
other side of the United States, not the world. But

(43:07):
and then you had then you got what's the other
the British because then you got Captain Britain and all
those Uh it's not really Avengers, but it's a team
like the Avengers. And yeah, on ex Caliber that was

(43:29):
their team because it's like night Brawler Captain Britain. I think,
what's Captain on that? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I'll be confusing. I haven't been into comics like it.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
In it in a long time. Got a lot of
my ship is I don't know all of that that
you know about it. I'll be forgetting. Sometimes it's better
that you don't because then you don't have any expectations
at all. Like even though I go into movies open
and try not to have zero Like I like this movie.
I wasn't really into the thunder Boats or the New Avengers.

(44:02):
I had some of their comics, but like I wasn't
into them. And I think the Thunderbolts were Ross's team.
I think he made them and the way they did it. Now,
you know, with the events of like he in jail,
so I mean, they might let him out, But I
think he's gonna be on the New Avengers or on Avengers,

(44:24):
the New Avengers team that Sam's making up, because I
think that's why I'm saying see him yeah, yeah, if
he if he learns how to control it, I think
he'll be on there as a red Hawk. I don't
know that they're gonna I ain't gonna say that. I
ain't gonna put that in the world because I don't
know how much longer not saying he's gonna pass away,

(44:47):
but saying I don't know how much longer he wants
to do it, like he's old. Yeah yeah, I could
my brain again. But yeah, like he I don't know
how long I would want. I guess maybe till he died.
Like he might be into acting like that, and maybe
he's like, listen, I do this ship until I can't
move no more.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
But if not like that much longer, he gonna want
to be in these movies, you know, because he's still
gotta do stuff, even though when he's hated c G. I.
So maybe they'll pitch it like that and it's less
It may be less uh strain on him, you know,
to where you don't have.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
To fly all over I hope, I hope. Uh the
original Captain of America, the super Soldier that was in
that went to jail. I hope he oh l L
was an adventer. Yeah, who knows, because he's he's up
there too. I mean, he's still strong. He still could
do it, So who knows. If if they're gonna he

(45:50):
might be like, man, fuck this, I ain't fucking with y'all.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
No more, with y'all, no more every time go to jail.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Because he was chilling for thirty years, like he was.
You know, he was like once once Buckie sent him
up or whatever or I don't you know. I guess
he helped, but like that was it. He's like, ain't
doing nothing. And then as soon as he come out
of shadows, fucking right back in jail, like listen, it's raining,

(46:22):
it's storming here.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yo. That ship was like a tornado here. It was
a tornado warning, like it.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Blew my chairs off my deck. I was like, that
shit almost hit my window. I'm glad he didn't more
money I ain't got.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
So I was joking with my mom. I said, don't worry,
it's just the aliens. They just they just a rise.
I'm on aliens. But yeah, that guy, he was one
of the best parts of that movie. Well the oh,
the dude, what's the true. No, we're talking. We're talking

(46:57):
about Captain America now Breaking New World. It's a official
like character name or title because you called him the
first first Captain America the original Super Sols.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Right, Bradley, you don't have a title.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
We talked about that movie already, but for us, the
name change the New Avengers. It's like, like I was
telling you, I like the Thunderbolts name better. It has
significance to the movie, into to the characters, and I
like it.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
It's cooler than me.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
But but but.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, but I can understand the cache that comes with
that name. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, and the fact that that you know was they
were on, like that was the team some of it,
some of them were on the team. Iron Hard is
coming out, Yeah, speaking of Marvel, Yeah, I want to see.
I'm excited for that. I hope it does well, even
though they're not promoting it. Once it come out, it's
gonna be on Disney June twenty fourth, June twenty four. Yeah,

(48:06):
I think it's It's great. She had a good comic run.
I would just employ people to look into her backstory
and her comic run. If you're saying you ain't here
for it or whatever, I know some people just ain't
gonna be here for it because they just ain't here
for it.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
But we know how that go. I'm here for it,
like because one reason is it brings back some of
that iron Man you know energy and uh like the
you know, her suit is like an Iron Man's suit.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah, basically it's the same tech. She just you know,
she's she made it whatever. But yeah, it's the same tech.
And I don't know how the movie is gonna go, Like,
I don't know if she's getting helped. Maybe she'll get
helped from the Wakandas to make a better one. I mean,
and she already has a better one. But I don't
think they I can't remember. At the end of Black Panther,

(49:11):
I don't think they let her take it. I don't
think they let her take that so for whatever reason,
but I don't it might have been so maybe that's
why they let her take it. But maybe they'll say
fuck it and give it to her, or she would
make a new I mean, I know it's different, like
the trailers out, so check the trail out. But I

(49:33):
know it's different in the trailer some of it. Some
of them are different. And it's just it's gonna be
just like all right, man, Like she's gonna make better ones.
But like the one in Black Panther that was her
first first one, the first one that she when they
were in the garage and then when she was in Wakanda.
That that's like kind of like the second iteration. But yeah, eventually,

(49:58):
I guess it's gonna I don't know what they're gonna do,
but eventually Chill had one just like him, like really flat,
really like form fitting.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
They won't be as bulky as it was.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I had a question, some of these characters from Disney
plus the Marble shows, are they going to show up
in the movies? Yeah, there will be main characters in
the movies. I don't know parts of the teams.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I don't know if they're gonna be main characters, but
they did say that they would.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Because because what's his name? The character that were right,
Russell plays He went from a US agent. Yeah, yeah,
he went from the show. Now he's the main he's
one of the He wanted the teams. Yeah yeah, I
mean he he did.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Obviously, but we got Daredevil Punisher. They supposed to forget
about They're all supposed to be. Of course, Hawkeye, I'm
mad Hawky season two ain't coming out because Marvel want
is stiffing. You saw them, look about it. They was

(51:15):
paying him half the money, like they wanted to pay
him half of what he got for the first season,
and he was like, why why not even not even
equal to what I'm getting, Like, I want more, but
you're not even gonna get me equal. He's like, why,
because I'm half a person. He's like, because I because
I felt because I got the crushed by thing. He

(51:37):
was like why, he said, I'm still good. He said,
I'm still I'm still doing my stunts. He's like, I'm
still doing everything. He said, I don't know. I don't
know why. He said, he never never understood. It's funny
because I know he wanted to blast him.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
The fuck is going on?

Speaker 3 (51:52):
I know he wanted to like blast him, but he.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Was being professional because he started talking and then he
was like, you know, it's it's still it's somebody up
in the seat, just sitting up there, not knowing anything,
saying here's this arbitrary number. Like you was to try to,
like uh talk bad about like having figure anybody. It's
just like, yeah, somebody telling them what to do. He said,

(52:15):
so they just he said, but fuck no, he was like,
not even know. He's like, fuck no, he said, so
he said, I love the character, but no, I know
my worth so which sucks and that seems to be there,
m which is insane to me. All that money they
got they should just be throwing money at these people

(52:37):
to keep these characters around, especially if these people want
to play them, because so many of them has said
they wanted to stop playing them. Oh yeah, but did
you watch Hawk Eye? Oh yeah, that's one of my
favorite Marble shows. It's not a popular opinion, even though

(52:58):
it's not the worst Marvel show, even among people that
think all this shit is bad.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
But I just think it's one of the better ones.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Also, it's a great Christmas watch because everything happens around Christmas.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
The whole thing is basically Christmas theme. I can see
there Christmas Shell.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
I know you wanted to talk about the super second
Superman trailer.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, second Superman trailer. We're taking two superheroes.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Did you watch it? I think I did see it.
I think, well, or I saw a part of it.
It was like he was he was showing more personality. Yeah,
that's what I was going to talk about.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
That's my favorite part is the fact that he's a
little emotional about stuff. And I know there's been people
saying that they didn't like that, but I think it's great.
It's a great thing to show because he is human,
not human, but he is human. He was raised by humans,
so he has all the personality traits of humans, which

(54:03):
is on his personality, him being upset, him saying having
kind of a god complex, like I'm just I'm saving people,
Like that's what the fuck I'm doing, Like that's what
I do, and that's what I'm gonna continue to do,
like not understanding some of the consequences that can come
from that or anything. So I think that's great. I
think that was a great, great trailer. That's like the

(54:25):
main point to me the trailer was that they showed
more of that.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, I think I remember, like to where they were like,
wasn't they charging him or wanting to arrest him or
something for.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Saving people? Yeah, yeah, I didn't get it myself. Collateral
damage and stuff, you know. I guess they're like, you
can't and operating, which they've always dealt with this, like
operating outside of the United States as a US citizen,
even though I mean, ain't nobody gonna tell him what
to do, like technically think you're not well nex Luthor

(55:04):
and Krypto kite. If he has Krypto Kite and all
that stuff. That's part of the reason why the government
goes to lects because they know they don't have anything.
I don't know if that's going to be the story here.
A lot of times that's the story because he has
the Krypto kite and they want him to make something
just in case, and usually he's trying to kill super Man, Like, nah,

(55:28):
not just in case, we gotta get rid of him.
I even like the campiness of some of it, which
was from the other trailer too. We're having a crypto
like that's one of the biggest things to me that
I'm like, Damn, they've never did crypto in live action,
I don't think even in I don't even know if
any of the shows or anybody. I'm sure they probably thought.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
It was.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Too kitty or too weird to do, just like how
people thought it was too weird for Rocket Raccoon for
them to do that. And James Gunn, which iron Lee
same person, was like, nah, I fuck that. We leaning
all the way into this shit. I mean honestly, like

(56:12):
when I don't think I liked it in Rocket, one
of my favorite characters. When I saw that first trailer,
I don't think I was into it. You know, it
did seem, you know, a little more like you said, campy,
but I'm interested in this movie. I want to ask
you you would have know the Superman faced this type

(56:32):
of stuff, like people trying to govern him before. It's
always yeah, I mean even man and still that was
a contention, but.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
It's like, you can only govern him if he agrees,
like you can't. Really that's the point.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
That's the point, just like a man Steell when they
had him handcuffed and bringing him in. Yeah, like and
they're like and Lois said, you you let him handcuff
you whatever, make him feel better.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
And then when he got up that because you can
see him behind the mirror.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
When the mirror he's just like.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
He got up.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
They just got a man come. He's like like it
was paper, like it wasn't nothing.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
But my thing is. And maybe there'd be more detailed
in the movie. I didn't necessarily you said collateral damage,
but they ain't necessarily show that.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Ain't show you know, if he's destroying buildings, even if
ain't nobody in there, if he's fighting something getting destroyed,
like she's getting destroyed, if he's fighting. That's one of
the reasons, Bruce. I mean that fight caused a lot
of depths and damage, and the man still uh him
and Odd fought like they was going through buildings and

(57:43):
fucking yeah, that shit was dope.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
That's like one of my favorite Superman movies.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yeah, definitely. I don't know what people be saying when
they be like that that sucks. Nah, that Man is
still the best Superman movie. I mean, feeling wise and
see this is like, you know, feeling wise. The first
Superman with Christopher Reeves is like one of my favorites,

(58:11):
but man, it still is my favorite.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And then like even with the what you call him
d and when they came like yeah, when they was fighting, Yeah,
I love.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
The way Man still looks. I know some people didn't
like it, but I love the way they convey how
fast they are, how strong they are, Like just showing
that ship in the destruction, like people be like what
the fuck? Like, i know some people didn't like it
because of the destruction, and I'm like, what the fuck
do you think would happen if this dude and strong

(58:48):
as Superman punching Superman? Where do you think he going?
You're gonna go through a building, like he's gonna go
far through ship. He ain't gonna stop. You know.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I was skeptical of this actor from the first trailer,
but watching the second trailer.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
And that's the other thing. Like I watching the second trailer,
and I normally only watched the first trailer. I try
not to watch other trailers, but I couldn't. I couldn't
help it. I saw it everywhere, so I was like,
let me click on it. And when I finally watched it,
I'm like, yeah, I like him.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
I like him.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Like I wasn't sure about him either when I first
saw it, but I was gonna give it a chance.
Though I'm not one of these people. It's just like
I hate it. Fucking sucks. Like you ain't even see
it yet. You see half, you see a piece of
a trailer. They ain't even have a full trailer out,
and you're like, it fucking sucks.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
S Thunderbolts now haves me looking forward to uh, what's
it called Fantastic four? Yeah, like just because it's a Marvel,
it's a it's a just because it's a Marvel production.
Like I just have confidence in them, like they're gonna
do it right.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
The one the one thing I ain't like is how
they with this. And I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I don't know what it was, but like they kind
of ship on Captain America Brave New World like with
their promotion and stuff because they're like, oh, this is
the best Marvel movie since Endgame. Like that was there
all their promotion and also they were like this is
the they said all types of stuff that was kind

(01:00:22):
of like that, and they didn't oh, yeah, the best
Marvel movie since the Endgame.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
That was one. One was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Marvel's Back, Like like I see the promosa, It's like
Marvel's Back. We know we've been slacking the last you
know whatever, but this is it. This is the movie
that brings us back. And I'm like, damn, you just
had a movie two months ago, like cat America.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Do you feel like even in the movie at the end,
it was a little those were kind of little shots
like when they were talking about Sam got the copyright
for the name.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Yeah, Like it was weird to me. And maybe that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Maybe they're building up the rivalry and maybe it's all
playing to build up that rivalry and then they're gonna
probably eventually have to work together or something, you know,
like fuck the rivalry. But I don't know, I don't
know if that was their plan. And that's the reasoning.
But it just rubbed me the wrong way from the beginning.
How did Captain America Brave New World?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
I mean it did great. Oh okay, it did great,
but I don't know by standards, like I don't I
don't know what it did by standards.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Like now, so I wonder where centers numbers is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Now we're fifteen worldwide right now?

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Pretty good? What was it was it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
That's out one eight, that's right, okay, Yeah, Frond the
boats their budget was one eighty two, one eighty. Well,
marketing is one hundred million and the budgets one eighty,
so like two eighty. That's the same thing with Braving
the World though, marketing was like one hundred. But what

(01:02:05):
they did two seventy two. Okay, but yeah, I'm sure
that they're going to do more.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Yeah, they're probably gonna do more than that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
I don't know why they would. Yeah, I'm confused too
about that marketing, about the marketing that that way.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Yeah, I just didn't like it, like it felt like
it was competing with their own movie, you know, And
like I said, maybe maybe that's their plan to make
it feel like that. And then they're gonna have to
come together later, and I mean eventually, they're gonna have
to come together when when Doom comes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
But uh, Sam is basically like part of the Old
Adventures and yeah, right, well he is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
But he's the only member of the Old Avengers right now.
I'm sure that there'll there'll be something come back, like
I don't I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Ever he was part of it, but he was there.
He was, he was in there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
He was I mean he was you know, everybody in
game was an Avenger, but they were yeah, yeah, everybody
in game the whole end game, the whole.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
At the end, they were all Avengers. So they all
were Avengers.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Okay, so there's still something left and then like the
Black Panther world, like we'll see where that goes. I
guess yeah. I think.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
I almost know, almost certain it's gonna be his son. Okay,
I gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Stop looking at Snapchat for they'll post stuff like they'll say, Okay,
Michael B. Jordan's gonna play Black Panther next.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Yeah, I don't know, they might, they might might get him.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I mean, that's his boy. I'm sure they're gonna get
Ryan again.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I can't see them not doing that, Like, why would
they That's the formula, so you know, why would they
fuck that up?

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
But you know, you never know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
I don't know if he'll be doing something else or
I'm sure he'll he'll rearrange his schedule to do that.
But yeah, they could it Michael B. Jordan with that fit,
but it would be his you know, he would be
playing his son. Oh no, no, they couldn't do that.
Let's they let's kill.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
The characters dead, so unless they bring him, no.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Yeah, kill Manger's dead. Yeah, yeah, never mind. I don't
know what the funk I was all about. Oh, that's
no all of them?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Oh yeah, what's the name? What's it called? Multi multiverse?

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Yeah, they could do that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
They could do that, But I think they're trying to
get away from doing stuff like that, even though it's
still happening.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
When is not that they don't I don't think they
want to do so much of it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
You know, when is Moles coming back? How many years
has it been Miles Miles Morales?

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Oh the cartoon, Oh that's coming out and twenty twenty eight?

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
I think when did the last movie come out? Last
Year's that last year or the year before it could
have been a year before, would have been a year before.
I feel like it's been so long. Yeah, they announced
it the other day. I think I sent it to you.
There is a New Spider Man coming out and the

(01:05:21):
Girl from the Bear, the girl the woman from the Bear.
Let me look it up brand New Day. That's the movie.
That's the New Spider Man come out twenty twenty six.
But they just cast somebody that they think that people

(01:05:42):
think is gonna be Rio Morales. I don't think it's
gonna be her, but it could be.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Who's real Morales? Mom?

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Miles Mom, Okay, Yeah, she's cool too. She's down really
down there. Liz Colin zaias Okay, Cologne is Lisa, Lisa
Cologne's as. I hope I'm saying that right. And the
only thing I think, no offense to her, but I
think she's too old for real unless they gonna have

(01:06:12):
it like Multiverse, and because there's all there's different stories
of Miles. You have the multiverse one where Peter dies
and he becomes Spider Man. Then you have the one
where he comes into the main universe six one six
and that's how he gets here, and there's all types

(01:06:37):
in between. There's a lot of a lot of different things.
He's always a new Spider Man. Let's it gonna make
him an older Spider Man, like he's been Spider Man
for a while and he's coming in. Then she you know,
she's fine. But if he's supposed to be a new
Spider Man, he's young. He's supposed to be young, like
his mom wasn't that old like his mom and dad,

(01:06:58):
you know, they was probably in their thirties. So yeah,
but yeah, she's a great actor, and I'm cool with
whatever role they do pick for. I mean, I think
she would play a great version of her. Actually, she
she's actually perfect for the role if she wasn't as
old as she is. Getting no offense to her. I'm

(01:07:20):
just saying, you know, it's just a matter of fact,
like the character was a younger person.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
So yeah, you heard any update on Blade, any on
the Blade movie. I'm starting to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Her that's done, not doing it. Yeah, they said it's right,
So it's canceled.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
That kind of sucks. It does suck.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I think he was gonna do a great job, but
it was a lot going on. I think it's just
too many cooks in the kitchen. Maybe because I know
he was having issues with the story, not saying he
was wrong, because from what I hear, he was right
to have those issues, and other writers were like, yeah,
shit is fucked up. So he took it over. But

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then it's just too much shit was going on. It
was always constantly. And he ain't getting no younger either.
You know, he's up there. I mean, he can still
do it, but he's getting up there too. He's like
fifty something, fifty four or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
I know he looks younger than he is, but yeah,
I mean, your body still can't be taking all that
shit forever, Like you can't be doing all them stunts.
And when I say all them stunts, I know he's
gonna have stuff, man, just like everybody else. But he
may do some stuff. He's still gonna have to run,
and I'm sure they'll ask him to do some things

(01:08:40):
that need a face, so he's still gonna have to
do physical stuff. Most most of the people in these
movies have to do physical stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
So so the only person who got to play Blade
besides Wesley is Tretch, right, Ben Trip's plain.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Yeah, that's a good little Marvel segment. Being late I
mean when I think back this stuff, I'd be like, oh,
that was ten years ago, and it's like thirty. Like
I'd be like nineteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
No, that came out in ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Yeah, ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Yeah, so I was old. I was like sixteen, Yeah,
I was. I was still into it. I was in
my room doing that day. I was slid with just
slide with me, and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
I ain't wanna hear that shit. What was I in
ninety seven? I was like twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
But see, I could appreciate that. But I still liked
Michael Jackson and I still would listen to DMX. But no, no,
that was before X came out. Yeah, that was before X.
Well actually maybe in ninety seven, a little bit before
maybe in ninety seven the mixtapes started coming out. Yeah yeah,

(01:09:57):
but I know, I know ninety eight the album came out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
But I know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
That's a lot of people thought at that time about Will.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
No, I understand I understand that. But I was. I was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I was with it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I was always because I felt like, probably because I
related it. I liked it, like I wasn't gangster, you
know what I mean. Like I wasn't a though like
some of the stuff, To be quite honest, even though
X was my favorite, at one point, it was kind

(01:10:32):
of hard some of the stuff was I was kind
of I was. It was kind of cringzy to listen
to it. It was kind of cringed for me to hear.
Or it was a hard listen sometimes to hear him
say certain things, Oh okay, now as as I because
I'm still a teenager kind of a kid. But also
but as I get older, I get used to Actually,

(01:10:53):
at one point I couldn't go back to listen to
exus old one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Well, now what is now with music is weird because
I'm like, damn, am I just getting Am I getting
too old? Because I'll listen to some stuff now from
like I've been on the kick, Like I got a
NAS not even greatest hits, it's just I call it

(01:11:20):
NAS and friends folder. So I got a bunch of
like miscellaneous songs and theveryboy nas. Some of that shit
I can't listen to just because of what he's saying.
And also got I've been on these too lately. I
got a lox a lox uh, not even a los
more like a rough Riders. But it's mostly locks because
I wanted. I wanted some of the locks old stuff.

(01:11:42):
So I got like a lot of stuff from him
and rough Riders while he wanted to And when I'm
listening to it, some of the stuff they stay and
I'm like, m like this stuff is like, you know,
even some of the terminology they use, like talking about
different things.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
I don't really want to get into it, but.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Like I was just like, oh, man, like this is
this is surely dating, Like they be canceled right now
if this is coming out right now, like stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
So I get kind of cringey.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
I'm like, oh. And then on the other hand, there
was there was maybe a play just so I can
make of excess old stuff that I can listen to. Yeah,
that I would listen to, you know, like, uh, what's
that one? The rain?

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, who we be?

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
You know. Yeah, it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Like and ship exced straight up came out and sady,
you know, sexually assault someone like that stuff is That
stuff is cringey to me, Like I used to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Doing my depressed teenage years that It's dunk and Hell's Hot.
That was that was the one. But like when I
got older and tried to think more positively, it's like
I couldn't go back and listen to certain stuff. Yeah yeah,
even though like some of that stuff is far like
from a just an artistic like hip hop point of view,

(01:13:15):
like the music just like it's far, you know, stop
being greedy, like like that's classic. The album is a classic.
I would get that classic. What do you think that? Yeah, yeah, definitely.
But were back home.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
We're back home.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
So I wanted to to talk about Kid and Play.
I've been watching a lot of interviews lately, a lot
of them with just Kid in them, but I've seen
like one or two would play in them as well,
and I've been really into them. You know. You know
when I was younger, I was you know, uh so

(01:13:55):
were you right? You were into the movies House Party.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
I was in the tape videos like getting Funky was
like I watched that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
I've remember, I'm telling you last week I had a
tape and that just happened to be the first video
on the front of the tape.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
So it was the first video I taped.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
And I think that's when I started taping videos when
that video came out, whatever year that was, I don't
know what the year that was, but I started taping videos,
and I remember taping their video first, and I always
used to as soon as I've rewind when I rewatched
the videos, I've rewind and shit all the way to
the beginning, put it in and just be always that
like I would, I wouldn't get through the whole tape.

(01:14:39):
So I think that played a part too, Like the
first three four videos were like seared in my brain
because I would definitely get past those all the time
and I would watch that shit over and over again. So, man,
Getting Funky was just so dope to me. Having a
block party and just their dancing. They was having fun.

(01:15:00):
All that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
I mean around that time anyway, all the hip hop
was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
A lot of it was.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
I mean, it wasn't that that big of a deal
to have fun, but partying on the block, just having
a block party like that. I think that's what made
House Party great because when you heard it was coming
out with House Party, it was like, damn, it's gonna
be like Getting Funky video. Basically, it's gonna be the
old thing. You know. It was more than that, but yeah,

(01:15:26):
they were. I always always look at them. Finally finally
me too, Like I think I was thinking about this.
Outcast is my number one hip hop group of all
time for me personally, I think kidding players number two
for me personally, that's me. For me, it's not but

(01:15:49):
I can. I ain't mad at that, Like I ain't
mad at it because my deepest is my favorite. Well,
I got different I got different labels because I say
duos and then I say group, like I separate group
from duos for some reason.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
I don't know why I do that. It doesn't matter, though,
I think you can say group for duo too. Their group.
They ain't a solo act, so it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
I just say duos for some reason, like mob Deep
Outcasts like mob De's number one, Outcasts is number two
for me, and I never thought about who's number three?
To tell you the truth and can play? Could could?
They definitely got a place on that list? Yeah, yeah,

(01:16:42):
they definitely do. You know where it gets a little
tricky and I had to define this for myself. It's
DJ Jazzy Jeff in the Fresh Prince. Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
They they're group their duo.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Yeah, but that's like, okay, well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Because you got.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
And that's that's the same that's on the same and
you know what, Yeah, I would have to think about
it more because because Eric is up there too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
But but I don't know if I would count DJ Jazzy,
Jefferin and the Press Prince and Eric being rock Kim
because there's one MC and every everybody has it. Everybody
had had.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
A DJ, and that's true, but there their DJ was
prominent in the group. That's why I think the difference, well,
I think the difference with.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Yeah, now hold on, Jeff is the best DJ. Now
here's here's the planet. Here's something I heard recently. Rock
Kim said. It's rock Kim said, he used to make
a lot of the beats. Yeah, but they didn't like
really publicize that like that. Yeah, so that that would
like change that a little, right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
I don't know because Eric b you gotta see what
he did, what his contributions were. I don't know all
of his contributions, Like I don't know if he mixed
some of the album. That's how Dre was. Like people
would be like Dre's the DJ or Dres a producer,
but Dre's are everything. Like if you have Dre on

(01:18:21):
your project, he's mixing, producing, mastering it. You know, what
I mean, he's he's doing all that shit, you know it.
I'm not saying he's doing it all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
I don't know his process, like if they delegate it.
But he's doing that on a project, especially his own project,
Like he's doing more than just a normal DJ or
producer would do just because of his knowledge.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
I'm not guess you would say that Rooths is definitely
a group and not everybody raps. They have like three
I see, I see, but I just yeah, it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
But I wouldn't call the thing that I would separate.
Maybe that's why I separate. I wouldn't call Eric being
Rock him a duo, right or Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince.
I wouldn't call them a duo. I would call them
a group, but I wouldn't call them a duo. To me,
a duo. Both people are kind of on front street

(01:19:23):
doing whatever usually lyrics.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Like to me, that that's and maybe that's why I
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Maybe that's why I always separated into duo or group
or solo because of that. But I think Jazzy Jeff
did way more than Eric B sounds like it, yeah,
because I mean Jeff was you know, he's a producer
like he's he's a top notch producer and one of

(01:19:51):
the best DJs ever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
So all right, let's let's start a debate. Let's start
a fake beef, right, fake beef. What Let's look it
up if we can. What came out first? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Uh? What's the DJ Jazzy Jeff Fresh part song?

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
It's just don't know the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Brand New Funk or kidd In plays getting funky? It
used to be biting, biting was the thing not to
do right, but people did it right. People did that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
People did it nineteen eighty eight, Brand New Funk came
out in March. Was getting on this album? I mean,
uh too hip? Brand New Funk? Was that on this
album Rock the House? No?

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
But I don't know. But Brand New Funk came out
in March of eighty eight. She didn't play, didn't even
come out until the twenty October of eighty eight. Okay,
so so brand New Funk was out first. Brand New
Funk was out first. Now lately, lately I've been debating, like, yo,

(01:21:03):
I'm really feeling getting funky right now? Is that because
I didn't really listen to it like that before? Is
that because I've heard brand new funk before and I'm
feeling like I'm liking Getting Funky better. I'm feeling like
I'm liking Getting Funky better than brand new funk? And

(01:21:26):
is that because I've heard it before? Or is that
because I really do like Getting Funky better than brand
new funk?

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
What you heard before? Oh, brand new funk? So you
never heard Getting Funky?

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
I probably heard if if Getting Funky is on to hype,
then I've definitely heard it before. You don't remember hearing
it now because I used to listen to the whole album.
I used to enjoy the whole album. Oh okay, but
then I had my favorites, but like, really listening to

(01:21:59):
it now, like that's a fire song that holds up
now that beat in the rapping, you know, and so
you know both songs? Yeah, yeah, which would you say
you like more?

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
I think Getting Funky holds more weight for me. There's
a lot of factors.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
I like brand new funk too, though, but yeah, getting
Funky holds more weight. Like I would pick getting funky
just because of how I don't know the word I'm
looking for, but how much how much it holds in

(01:22:48):
my hip hop history. Like it was around the time
when I first started getting like really really into hip hop,
so like that was you know that that was it,
Like that was the first video I recorded, first rap
video I recorded. That's you know, it holds a lot

(01:23:09):
of weight for me, even though I don't listen for
now even and play it in the car one time.
You keep saying I can't say that. I can't say
it don't hold up because because I've heard it so
many times, like maybe because I've just I did it.
The song, Like the song is done for me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
It's kind of it's kind of new to me because
you didn't listen to it that much, like cann play
some of this stuff. It's like some I caught on
to some stuff late, you know, Like I remember my
brother was saying like like you know, he was into
like rolling with kidd and play and like you know

(01:23:52):
when he you know, when he was younger and so
and then I went back and I listened to stuff
I got. I got that Too Hype album, you know,
after after the movie and after the movies and stuff.
I was into the movies House Party, House Party two.
I've seen House Party three. I just don't remember it, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
You don't know if I saw it. I don't. If
I did, I don't remember it at all. I ain't
even I don't even know if I remember. There was
a House Party three.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
I remember, like I remember in House Party three he's
not with Geena no more spoiler alert, matter of fact.
And House Party two was it? What did they break
it back? Okay? So but I remember they were still well.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Yeah, house Party one I can recite like like through
like House Party two, I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
I remember.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
I just didn't watch it as much.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Yeah, I remember really liking House Party two.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
I did like it. Yeah, I remember liking it, but
I just didn't watch it as much as House Party one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
House Party one. I was watching this sh all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
I know what I remember. The one thing I remember
house Party three is that so Kid is about to
get married. I think, yeah, I definitely didn't see that.
I ain't see that his fiance see he bumps into Gina.
But it was just like a nice to seeing you

(01:25:22):
have a nice life. And I think that's how he
described it, the movie nice seeing you have a nice
life type of thing. But she thought it was something
else his fiance when he saw them together. But you know,
it wasn't that. That was the thing. That's what I remember,
And I think immature was in it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Yeah, I never saw that. Yeah, I do remember that.
I remember the movie. I remember seeing them, but I
never watched it. I never saw it, never watched it, Okay, Yeah,
I just think I was done, like I was, I
was out. I outgrew them, period, and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
So I just that Class. I think what came out
for Class or House Party three, I would think Class, Yeah, yeah,
because that was that was the bomb.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
I don't remember that, you don't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
I don't think I ever watched the whole thing, watch
some of it, but I think at that time I
just wasn't into that stuff. Okay, Like I just I
don't know when that came out, but you were a
little older. Yeah, I think I was into other stuff.
It's just into the harder stuff, the harder hip hop stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
But that was yeah, that was Yeah. That that was
my probably my introduction. And then like and then they
had they had music come up come out after that,
like Ain't Gonna Hurt Nobody. That might be my favorite,
one of my favorite kid in plays so might be
my favorite. And then there's a song called Bounce you know,

(01:26:51):
uh that I liked a lot. It was kind of
more like the styles started changing, where like that was
kind of that was kind of more like more maybe
a harder sound. They weren't talking like hard in the
in the but the kids did say, ain't gonna hurt nobody,

(01:27:11):
but I will if I have to bounce.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
You know, That's what it was. He had to put
that in there. People was playing them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
For real. But yeah, man, I've been watching, uh those interviews,
but okay, so yeah, we we got to the bottom
of that. So Brand New Funk came out first. Okay,
I think right now, right now do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
You ask that? Do you do you feel like they're
similar songs? Yeah, Brand New Funk, But listen, but the
songs it's like cutting up funk. It's like and shues
with funk in the hip hop, you know what I mean.
Like they're using like like funk and you know, maybe souls.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Who you know. I was just thinking of a playful
beef like you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
You did say that, yeah, beefing. I ain't realize that's
what you was talking about. But just creating a playful beef,
but not necessarily that might not have happened. That might
who knows, I might have or or you know, who
knows it could have been. It could be a situation
where I don't know who knows it might it might,

(01:28:34):
it might have happened.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
But getting funky is is dope, you know, And right
now I like getting funky better than me than brand
new funk. I mean, I gotta say that wild. But
other than that, Yeah, I've been watching a lot of
like Kid Kid, like interviews with Kid, and I've seen

(01:28:59):
a couple of kids and play I think Kid's life
could be a movie because something I found out some
things I didn't know, like when he was when Kid
was a kid, So first of all, his mother was
Irish and his dad was Jamaican, so you know, I

(01:29:19):
think they had him in the sixties and his mom's
his mom's parents were racist. So when she even started
seeing his dad, they kind of like they wasn't with it.
And and I don't know it was it was when
when she started seeing his dad or when she got

(01:29:43):
pregnant with him, they kind of like disowned her. So
so she didn't speak They didn't speak to her like
I guess, you know, since from when he was born
to to the to the point where I think he
was non I think he was nine. There was a

(01:30:03):
car accident and suddenly so it was him his mom
and I think his mom's friend her his mom's friend,
and his mom died in the car accident. He lived,
so then he would he you know, his dad came
in got him, and he was He went from being

(01:30:26):
with his mom to being with his dad, which basically
like his life became. He went from being see me,
I don't like to use certain terms, but for y'all
to understand, he went from being with his white mom,
which his mom was like he said, his mom was

(01:30:47):
real cool, like his mom would he would be around
people of color, he would be around gay people, like
he would be around different people anyway. But his life
got blacker. Well when when his mom died than lived.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
That's natural. Yeah, that's natural. Like if you don't go
out your way, I mean that's sometimes some of my
beef with white parents that adopt black kids, like they
don't go out their way to show them their culture
and to have them around other black people. Like, if
you don't go out your way, it would be hard.

(01:31:22):
You know, it's hard for a white person. I mean
it's easier for a white person not to see black
people than it is for a black person not to
see white people. Like like, there's white people where wherever
that never talk to a black person. So if you
got if the only person black is your son or

(01:31:42):
your kid, daughter, whatever, you gotta really go out your
way to expose them to their culture.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Well, it sounds like and and it's sound like what
she did. Yeah, I see what you're saying, but I
think in her kids, I think she is sounds like
she did a good job keep him around, like or
maybe that's just who she was. She was just around.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
If you you know, if that could have just been
her or maybe she she did it consciously. A lot
of times they do have to do it consciously, that's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
And one of the things he was saying was like
black people there was accepting of him, like white people
if you had one drop of black and you like,
and I'm and I say racist, I say racist people
like racist white people. They just they they didn't want
nothing to do with him. So so he went where

(01:32:41):
he was accepted, you know. And he was saying and
he was saying that his mom's parents, who hadn't spoke
to her his whole life at that point, went to
court and got her pension, got her pension. That's wild.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
Yeah, that's wild. And then so I'm sure it was
probably easy to do. I think that she wasn't married.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
I don't think so. She wasn't with his dad because
she said he said she recognized earlier, earlier that his
dad was a player, and she just went with him. Yeah,
I mean, well what happens. But her is that this
did step in and and took him in and raised him.
And I really think either kid's life including play eventually

(01:33:36):
or them together, it could be a movie, like just
like just imagine that. I don't even want to imagine that,
Like a kid in the car with his mom and
her friend. They have an accident and they the mom
and the friend are both dead and he lives, like
just that opening scene, Like it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Yeah, I mean that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
It's interesting because I watched several different interviews and he'll
say the same stuff in several different interviews. But I
don't get tired of it, Like I don't really get
tired of it. But it's just interested in watching him,
like he's interesting to me, you know. Ah, and just

(01:34:21):
watching Aging and the hip hop, you know, just watching
just understanding that things change, and you know, watching one
of my favorites Age. You know, I didn't keep up
keep up with him all this time, you know, and uh,
just hearing about after, like because I knew at one

(01:34:45):
point when I was into kidd and Play like that,
at one point, Play decided he didn't want to be
playing anymore. You know. He he got into Jesus. Oh yeah,
you know, he got saved and and then and then
I saw I.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Saw Original Malice, Original, I saw a.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Kid on Sister Sister, and then after that, I saw
him a couple of times on there. And then recently
I learned that he does comedy too. Oh yeah, yeah,
and he's he's funny. I've been watching some of his
stuff on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Yeah I ain't seen none of it, but I didn't
know that he was doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Yeah, but yeah, I've been I've been watching a lot
of that, listening to the older music, just like listening
and ain't gonna hurt nobody, driving in my car like
it's funny, you know, like it's like wow, I don't
hear rapping like this no more this style you know
for this music, you know that's true, And this is

(01:35:49):
it's fat, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
It's fat fat, it's fat yo. You know there's some
words that stay for like dope, like dopey is like still,
I mean it's super mainstream now everybody uses it like
you'll see it in commercial So that's how that's how
main stream it is.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
And there's some stuff that just fall off.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Fat is one of them that it was one of
my favorite I've heard that's like thirty years or soil.
You just said it was fat was ship like that's
fat fat that it don't even sound right, No, right, fat,
it's fat.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
I remember I had said a rap one time too.
One of my sister's ex was like, he's like, that's
a fat run.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
That's a fat run. That's wild, fat.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Yo. You checked out love different robots, Okay, I wonder yo,
when you see this one, I'm not gonna tell you,
but I'm just gonna tell you. It's about aliens, so
you'll know when you see it that shit is so
fucking wild. And had me done like I couldn't breathe

(01:37:14):
last night. It was so fucking funny, but I don't
know if it was supposed to be funny. But there's
a part I don't want to tell.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
You so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
I ain't gonna tell you. I ain't gonna tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
But it's wild though, Like it's wild as hell, the
whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
But that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
I couldn't fucking breathe when I was watching this ship.
I was laughing so hard. Or all the episodes out
or yeah, how many episodes? Ten? But you know some
moms and the first I ain't gonna tell you. The
first episode is so dope, and I'm like, damn, mao,
this is wild, Like I want to talk to talk

(01:37:53):
to you about it when you see it. It's just
like I don't like the lymps. That's the only thing
I don't like. I wish they were longer. You know,
you got seven minutes, oh, reventeen minutes. Yeah, it's just
like the other seasons. Oh that's how those seasons were,
okay remember that? Yeah, like the like they had five
minutes episodes, black, that black episodes and that black mirror yo.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Even on that one episode with the mechanical Beast. Yeah
that was like a movie yo. Yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
I kept thinking that and then it went the length
of like damn near a movie. Yeah yeah, yeah, some
of them alone. Some of them are like movie length. Yeah,
and not tasically, that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Yeah, yeah, not just the length, just what was happening,
like like the plot in this scene, in that scene,
and like it was like a movie. I'm like, wow,
that black mirror is something else. It's like my mom, man,

(01:38:57):
it's something else. Shoot, yeah, I don't know. I'll be
on the road, so it's like I'll be waiting till
them off to wash stuff. So it's taking me some
long jam everything in the two days. Yeah I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
I mean that's that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
That's this period and you jamming everything in the two days.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
You jamming your your errands, jamming and everything like like
going shopping, going food, like whatever. They'll be your mom
like like, oh that is in two days because you driving,
you you ain't got time to do anything really while
you're driving the week two I.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
Mean depending on how well. Yeah, you're right, I mean
if you you, if you, I'm sure there's people that
drive that are multitaskers and can get different stuff done
like you know people have laptops. People truck stops have longe.
I go to sleep. I try, like when I'm when

(01:39:58):
I'm done driving.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Five what you need to do you drive in a truck,
a big ass truck, Like you probably need to go
to this sleep when it's time when you're done.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
I mean, how to catch up? Because I would have
been done with Black already probably if I could like
watch it like that, and like I said, like after,
I don't have time to be on the road to
watch stuff. I gotta go to sleep. You know, people
got TVs in the truck and all that. I never

(01:40:29):
did that. Uh you know, I might have bought a TV,
but I never hooked it up. And I just I
feel like I don't have a need for it. If
I want to entertain myself, I got my phone. Like
I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
Some people don't like watching I don't like watching it
on my phone. Okay, I need to watch something bigger
than that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
When I was when I was over the road and
I used to have sometimes I'll be sitting for a
long time. Yeah, I'll be watching movies and stuff. I'll
be watching stuff like I used to be in the
truck some long waiting to get a new load or something.
I go in the truck stop and being a driver's lower.
I never do that no more. I be in the
driver's lounge watching Law and Order or something.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
On the TV. Like, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
I never do that. I don't have time to do
that no more, because it's different now. It's different what
I do now, Like I'm a Northeast regional, so it's
like I got my route every week and I'm just
trying to do my best to uh make the best
time with my route. It's like, it's not it's not.
I'm not waiting. Yeah, and not even not even with

(01:41:38):
going to a receiver where I would have to wait
for them to unload it. Except for except for when
I go pick up a load or you know, bring
a back hall to the main warehouse. But other than that,
I'm dropping off stuff, dropping off and I go like,
I you know, I unloaded, and I go, I don't
know when I'll get to set.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
Yeah, you always say, in your brain, what's it called love?

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
Different robots? Love different robots wouldn't be a buch of
a diversion anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
No, because that's the only reason I stopped watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
Because I'm on I'm on four, Like, I only watched
the first three and they're short as fun, but I
didn't want to just speed through it, so I was like,
let me stop because you know the one. I think
the first one is like seven minutes, the second one
was like fifteen minutes, third one was like nine minutes
or something like that. I wonder what, but I'm about

(01:42:37):
to well, I'm thinking because of the time it takes
to minute for those things, like those animations or whatever
however they do it like whatever like that, when you
see number number one, I want you to let me
know because that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Is h I mean, I might start if it's only
a few minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:42:57):
Post Encounters of the Mini Con that's the one that
I was telling you about that I was dying.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
Yeah, first one six minutes, sexon one seven minutes, the
third one seventeen minutes, fourth ones fifteen minutes, fifth ones
nine minutes, ten minutes, fifteen, fifteen, eight, and fourteen. Yeah,
that's why I had to stop because I was like,
I don't want to keep I don't I want stuff
to watch, like, I don't want to run through it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
And you watched that shit in two hours.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
If you wanted to. So, yeah, I probably watched the
rest of it the night you saw. I D three
thousand gave the commencement speech in Berkeley Music.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
Oh I didn't know he did it aolready. Yeah I
sent a headline.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
Oh yeah, he did it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
It was pretty great too, Like I really like what
he was saying.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Because he he it was very human and normal because
he said when he got the call, his first thought
he was excited, but then he started doing He was like,
I do this thing that I do, start thinking why
are they asking me?

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
Like why.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Somebody that He said, if you pulled up a keyboard
right now and asked me to play an e note
in high or whatever, He's like, I couldn't do it.
He said, So why are these geniuses? These music Jesus
won their for me? So he was just talking about that.
But I didn't see the whole speech, but I saw
like ten minutes of it, and yeah, he just he

(01:44:33):
got into It's cool to see because I guess younger
people they were into it, and it's cool to see
the admiration because he was talking about he was like,
my first piece of music equipment was an NPC, and
the people was like, yeah, you know what I mean,
Like it's cool because all these music people so and

(01:44:53):
that's what he was talking about. He was like, we
was raised on synthesizers and drum machines. We didn't really
know how to play instruments. And you know, you guys
are different, like yo, different a lot of you. So
he got in, he got into that, and yeah, it
was dope though, Like it was dope to see him
give this speech and I'm like, damn, there's some good stuff.

(01:45:19):
And then your boy the pianist is mad at him.
Then that's the next headline I saw because he's coming
out with a piano album.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Oh is it?

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
Oh I ain't No, I ain't heard it, but he
dude said it was trash. He's like a classically trained pianist,
some black guy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
But I did hear, Like I was watching the podcast
and I heard a couple of people say the same
thing far as like.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
Technically, you know, yeah, you don't know how to play.
So I guess that's why dude was mad. It probably
is a little bit of hate too, which I kind
of can't understand. Like because of you having this name,
you could just put out this album. That's how he's feeling.

(01:46:06):
I believe I'm speaking for him. I don't know, but
I can kind of understand that if you've been working
all your life as something and.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
Maybe or maybe not, I don't know the guys.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
So I don't know where he is in life or
where he is with his music, but maybe you're not
where you want to be and you worked all your
life with his music. Then here comes this rapper that's
just putting out musical instrument albums that they're not even
good in your eyes or in you know, people that
know what they're doing's eyes. But he's getting all this

(01:46:39):
fanfare for it. So I can totally understand. I mean,
I'm an Andre two thousand fans, so I'm like, fuck
the hate, you know, But but I can understand where
they're coming from.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
I can understand that. I can. I think I can
understand it as well. I don't know if I should
say it, but three thousand fans and I started to
listen to the album and the piano album, Yeah, and
I quickly I didn't know it was out already.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
Yeah, that's that's wild because the fact that what he
said at that speech, I thought he said that, you know,
and and maybe it it's.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
Only been a maybe a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Yeah, it's been out then, Yeah, before that speech, I believe,
because I think that speech was like yesterday or the
day before. So yeah, that that is wild to me
that he said he had been to say that in
that speech. They you know, if you tell me where
he I wouldn't be able to play it. I thought
maybe it inspired him. That's what I thought. When I

(01:47:46):
heard he was coming out with a piano album. I
was like, oh, maybe, because I only heard that after
the speech, so I thought it was coming. So I
thought that inspired him to learn the piano, like to
learn enough to put this album them out. And I'm like, oh,
that's pretty dope, I was thinking. But now that I
know that, I'm like you, I'm gonna check it out.

(01:48:07):
But I like this flute album. I listened to the
flute album.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
I don't know if I got through. I wanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
The flu album was my music, Like, that's what I
listened to at work. That type of music anyway, is
what I listened to while I'm typing or while i'm
you know, doing paperwork or forms that I need to
concentrate on. I can't listen to words stuff with words.
So I listened to instrumentals and using classical music. But

(01:48:36):
I started listening to his album because it sounds better,
you know, not technically, but better than some of the
other stuff that I listened to.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
Just con vibe with it more so. That's why that's
the only reason I've heard his whole album multiple times.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
I don't know if I got all the way through it.
I did buy it because I wanted to support that.
I mean, you know, I bought it. I bought it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
I streamed it though I ain't downloaded for free, but
I ain't buying it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Yeah, I didn't. I don't want to buy the piano album.
And it's never it's never any Andre three thousand and eight,
I started listening to I started listening to it, and
it was kind of like because I've heard like like
wonderful piano players before, so it was just like and
I've and I did a little messing around, I had

(01:49:26):
a class, so it just I just wasn't into it.
So I turned it off. And I just had no
plans to listening to it again, and and and I
didn't feel compelled to buy it at all. And I
actually heard I heard that this is eleven years old
and he decided to put it out, and I'm like,

(01:49:47):
I wonder why.

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
Maybe he got inspiration. Maybe he did get inspiration, was like, oh,
I played the piano, it's good enough. Maybe now he's
like it's good enough. Back then it wasn't. I don't know,
I don't know. I'm with I'm with him, like, hopefully
this will lead to an album with vocals on it.
You know, he put a food album out, he put
a piano. It's getting that's all that sit together.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
But listen, I think you don't necessarily have to be
a good piano player or a good instrument player period,
or or have a lot of experience or knowledge to
be a good producer.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
Yeah, I don't think so either.

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
That Love Below album is classic and he produced that stuff.
You know, it's really well done, you know, so.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
Yeah, I mean, I mean there's a million examples, right,
people that can't you know, they're not not trained anyway,
and they you know, they teach themselves enough to be
good producers. That's the age old ship that hip hop
has been. The hate hip hop has been getting for

(01:51:00):
years anyway, like the fact that they don't play musical instruments.
That's what they heavy metal people was doing for years
hating hip hop because it was taken over and they're
like the same music.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
I mean, but it is music.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
This music.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
And then also I think also you can be good
at music, and you can be good at music. You
could be good at like there's people who can play
the piano probably that probably can't read like the notes
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of people play
by ear. Yeah, you can be great because most of
the time you're great at one one instrument. Yeah, so
you can be great at one instrument and not necessarily be.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
A good producer, right, you could you could be somebody
that needs a producer.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Yeah, or you need somebody that can do something else,
like do the drums or something.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
Yeah. This this that's like for real, almost like that
in the beginning would fix all his drums.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
Basically, Sugar Sugary Otis, I'm thinking of Sugar Sugar Otis
just came up. His dad was a musician, I think,
and he just he could he could play everything. Yeah,
he could play everything. And I remember saying that Quincy
Jones came to him like wanted to produce him. He

(01:52:25):
was like, I don't need a producer. Yeah, that's amazing, man,
Like that's something that that that's a dream for me,
like to be able to do that, Like I wish
I could could could be able to do that. Play
every instrument, play everything, put everything together, arrange everything, engineers.

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
That's one of the reasons why I always said, Prince,
that's the same, that's the same. I think that's the
same argument. Prince and Michael Jackson is the same argument
of Lebron and Michael Jordan. To me, like, that's like,
I know, I know, Michael Jackson is the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
He was super talented, he had he had, you know,
more success commercially. He's just as talented, you know, depending
on how you're looking at it. But Prince could go
in the studio by himself, make a whole fucking album
hisself and it'd be good, you know, like play every

(01:53:28):
instrument fundamentals is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:53:32):
But again, how many people will say Prince.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
Is better than MJ as far as they're like all
around or whatever, Like, there's not a lot of people
that's gonna say that because of other stuff that MJ did,
you know, like intangible stuff. Sometimes tangible stuff. But but
I think it's like two sides of the same coins.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
I think that I think Michael Jackson thinks he was
good at he was extremely good at And I think
that also there's things maybe not very well known, things
like Michael Jackson produced, like some songs and I used
to wish that he did a whole album instead of
going with Teddy Rowley or like he went with Teddy.

(01:54:24):
I think basically after Clinton, he kind of went with Teddy.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
Always needed that super.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
But I think, like I wish I wanted the album
that he produced.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
Some I would have liked to see what he could
have done because he because.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
Maybe he tried and maybe it just didn't work because
you know, having the same having one person and that
hasn't worked a lot, let me put it that way,
having a producer and uh like in a lot of
genres that had and worked a lot, having one person

(01:55:01):
produce a whole album and be the artist, Like there's
a few, there's a few that it has worked, and
even some of those, you know, there were other consultants,
there were other people on there on that you know,
helping arranging stuff like that. So it's hard to say.

(01:55:21):
It's hard to.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
You got Prince, and then we know well as far
as I know, far as I know Andre three thousand,
the level below is him. Yeah, I want I know
then Doctor Dre but he don't, right, So Doctor Drake,
I don't know. I want to say Dan is a

(01:55:46):
little bit. But I know that Voodoo was a collaborative
effort a lot of artists. I don't know about the
first album. Yeah, I don't know about uh. But but
Forrest Michael Jackson, I think earth Song was him. I
think he producer. I know, I think he wrote, he
wrote stuff, he wrote stuff before, but I don't And

(01:56:09):
Forrest producer, I don't know how involved. But then you
can producer. You don't necessarily even have to play anything.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
Right depending I mean, you know Qase Jones did of course,
and Teddy Riley they both you know, they're both heavy
in the instruments. But as a as a credit, no,
you don't. You don't have to do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
You just be.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
Just giving a little direction.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
And you could be a producer like Stranger in Moscow
earth Song, earth Song is fire Stranger in Moscow, And
there's other songs. I can't think of them all right now,
but I feel like I would have loved Michael Jackson
produced Michael Jackson album. Like some of my favorite songs

(01:56:57):
are songs that he that came from him, you know
what I mean, like all from him, you know. So
so I think what I'm trying to say is he
he was talented. Like I think a lot of it
seemed like a lot of the beats like he was
beatboxing without like you know, like doing it for shelf,

(01:57:22):
Like he would be doing that. You would hear him
doing that on the song, or maybe he'd be in
the studio and he'd be doing that. You know. I
think he was talent in that way. Maybe not as
talented at the instruments and all of that as Prince
and maybe experienced and producing and all that as Prince,

(01:57:43):
but I think he had like a great ear, you know,
And I think he had his talents, you know, Yeah, definitely,
And I mean, yeah you could, yeah, I mean you can.
To give a lot of credit to Quincy Jones. It
was a you know, collaborative effort, but Quincy Jones helped

(01:58:05):
him out a lot, and he had some his with
Teeddy Teddy Rowley too. Yeah. Yeah, And you know, back
back in the day, I didn't know he worked with
Teddy row I didn't know that wasn't as known to
me as no as knowing that Clincy Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
Was Teddy Rowley.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
He worked with everybody, No, but I just didn't know
that Teddy Rowley was behind like dangerous and like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
See I knew all that and didn't. I mean, I
was a Teddy Roley fan, so like I was a
Teddy Roley fan early, and I had all his all
his music, all all that all Backstreet.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
Yeah, like I was just a fan of this.

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
I was a fan of his producing production style just
at that time, Like, man, I beat that cey up,
I'll be Backstreet.

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
See the yup put the one with Let's Stay in
Love on it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:59:07):
Yeah that ship, Yeah, I beat that that ship. Damn damn,
that's crazy. I ain't heard nothing of these songs since.
Can't heard none of that music, said I recently listened
to I probably should. I keep getting old music pop
up on my YouTube now and I listened to it.

(01:59:29):
I see this stuff and I'm like, I don't want
to listen to it, and then I click on it
and I end up hearing the whole Like I end
up listening to the whole video because it just grips
me again. It's funny how that ship worked because I'm thinking,
I'm not thinking about the songs.

Speaker 3 (01:59:44):
It's not like I don't want to go back and
listen to them.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
But then once I hear them again, like I'm just
like and I don't think it's gonna do that to
me because I'm I don't even want to really look
at this video, like I got all this ship to do.

Speaker 3 (01:59:56):
So I see a video, I'll be like, let me
click this real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
I remember this. Then I ended up sitting there watching
the old thing and then going on to some other videos,
some old school videos.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
I was like that recently, Like I put a song on,
an older song and I was singing it, and I
thought I was like turning off, but I just kept
singing it. I kept I was into it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:18):
I was enjoying it, like I used to Joey Badass,
Joey Badass, And I don't know the guy, the other
guy that he's weeping with, Ray Vaughan. You know him.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
I know he's in on TDE. I've heard the name.

Speaker 3 (02:00:34):
Okay, yeah, I don't really know him, so I can't.

Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
Like I don't want to uh diss him, and because
Joey's my dude, like like I got him, like A
guy him in the battle, A guy him in the battle.
I guy him in almost any battle, you know. For
I think I don't know Joey be getting slept on.
He's one of the younger dudes that I.

Speaker 2 (02:01:02):
Really like.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
And I got into him late. I wasn't I wasn't
on when he first came out. I just remember Michelle Obama,
not Michelle Obama, the daughter. The daughter was like a
really big fan of his, and I remember she dropped
his name on something and it was a big thing
because they're like, oh, the president's daughter dropped Joey badass

(02:01:26):
pro error on I think she was interviewing somewhere or
something and she said that was her favorite rapper. But
he's nice. He nice, He always been nice. But the
last the few things. The first thing I saw was
the freestyle with Big Sean and a Soul.

Speaker 2 (02:01:42):
Who saw that I sent it to you, I haven't listened. Yeah,
that ship, that ship.

Speaker 3 (02:01:48):
I think he had the best verse.

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
Nothing against Absol and Big Sean because they definitely did
ay thing. And somebody said that Big Sean be bringing
the best out of people, and I can't argue it
seems that way. Like whenever somebody's on a song with him,
like they seem to bring their a game. I mean
maybe because they know because Big Zone is nice, they
regardless of how you feel about him or whatever. It

(02:02:14):
took me a long time to get into him too,
because of like sometimes his voice I don't like, or
the way it sounds sometimes I don't like. But lyrically
he's a beast. So but yeah, that that freestyle had
little jabs and it's funny because in an absold they
were in the video like he says something and he's

(02:02:36):
like whoa. Apisold's like whoa, whoa whoa? You know, but
it's kind of like playful. So I'm like, I wonder
how they feel about that because I know t ain't
tde what it was. But still like they're still all affiliated,
so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:02:55):
Maybe ABS is just like whatever, like I ain't you know, I.

Speaker 1 (02:02:59):
Say, but but I'm still in this video with him,
like I'm still I'm still working with him. So then
I saw Rayvaughn came out with it, disc I don't
I couldn't tell you what he said in it. I
heard it once. I listened to it once, but I
ain't really listen to it. But then finals he uh,

(02:03:21):
Joey dropped after you know, responding to Rayvaughn. That shit
he fucking torched him. Seems to be the consensus, though
I'm biased.

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
I know I'm biased.

Speaker 1 (02:03:35):
So anybody that's Rayvon fan of offense to him and
his fans because he seemed like a cool dude. He
seemed like he can spit. But I just don't hear much.
I haven't heard much from him, and he's not on
my radar. Really, Joey's been on my radar. I didn't
realize it seems Joey is older than he is. I

(02:03:55):
always think he older than he is. He only thirty.
Like I thought he was older because he's been in
His first album came out when he was sixteen, So
that first first time I saw him, he was sixteen.
I didn't realized that. I ain't realized that he was
he was that young. And now he's been in all
the shows and movies and and he's a beast an actor.
He's a good actor. Watch King raising kany Oh, you

(02:04:18):
don't watch that. That's the best one. That's the best.
I like that better than Power. Uh, that's the best
spinoff definitely, but I like I like you better than
the main show.

Speaker 2 (02:04:28):
Might have heard the Ray Vaughan's song, but they came
out a while ago, right.

Speaker 1 (02:04:32):
No, that that just oh well no, yeah, that just
came out after I think after the freestyle.

Speaker 2 (02:04:37):
No, I haven't heard none of it. Yeah, because while
ago Joey Badass dropped something whole error.

Speaker 3 (02:04:45):
That's that's that's the song I'm talking about. That's the
new one.

Speaker 2 (02:04:48):
Those songs I haven't heard, but I think they did
throw shots before.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
No, they have, they have been. They've been jabbing, they've
been jabbing.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
So that's because Joey Badass had the song where he
said two much West Coast dick licking yeah, and then after.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
That yeah, yeah, I think they said something from that,
And because in in the freestyle he was like this
ain't eastwards west. He's like, I ain't got nothing against
the West coast, just against Rayvaughn or whatever, and he, you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:20):
Know, go on.

Speaker 1 (02:05:21):
He said more eloquently than that, but I think he
might be right.

Speaker 2 (02:05:26):
That is where it came from.

Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
But I think he was just being general but I
guess being from the West Coast, you're gonna take offense. Yeah,
but yeah, I mean, I ain't gonna get too deep
into it because it just started anyway. But the fact
that he dropped Kendrick name, I wonder if Kendrick gonna
say something because in the freestyle, yeah, he you know,

(02:05:49):
he was like, there's no beef with none of y'all
other than him. But he was like, Kendrick, you know,
I'm always ready, so whatever. So he did say that
because he you know, he was saying like, I know
you're gonna take off for DD and I wouldn't expect
nothing less from you.

Speaker 2 (02:06:06):
Lyrically, you know, he got he got some ship he
can go. I know a song I've been listening to.
It's about a Marie. It's called Mine. It's a new
song only you something like that, something like she does

(02:06:27):
it much better? It's like, not it much better?

Speaker 1 (02:06:30):
Yeah, I'm gonna check I'm gonna check that out because
I'm a fan of hers.

Speaker 2 (02:06:33):
Recently saw her on the on the on the podcast,
and she was uh, just talking about you know, coming
back out and has you know, I think I think
I read she hadn't listened to music for like ten
years or something like that. And uh, it's just how
she used to feel when she first came out and

(02:06:56):
you know, compared to how she feels about it now.

Speaker 3 (02:06:59):
So I might have heard that song.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
It sounds kind of familiar, But then again, I don't know.
You could be singing a whole one songs at once. Song.

Speaker 2 (02:07:10):
It's good, that's cool. What's saying. Once you create something
and put it out there, people can always enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:17):
Yeah, that's why rappers always say they're gonna live forever. Hey,
you know, so many songs or rappers be like, I'm
gonna live forever, and that's what they're talking about from
their music. Now, we're gonna wind it down with this episode.
What we're thinking a lot of you alright then, No,

(02:07:42):
I had a hic up in a burp at the
same time, so that shit kind of got stuck in
my throat and I was laughing at your height beat.
But yeah, we thank you for joining us tonight today
whenever you're listening or watching, So we're gonna get out

(02:08:02):
of here. You got anything to say in closing, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08:06):
Thank you for tuning into this fat podcast, Fat Dope.
We're taking it back to the nineties, the early nineties,
you sucking smooth dope lyrics.

Speaker 1 (02:08:21):
Dope lyrics, alright, and wrap it up all right. Peace,
be safe, one love, treat everybody kindly.

Speaker 2 (02:08:33):
Two dope and seas.

Speaker 1 (02:08:37):
Thing out than out thin out.

Speaker 2 (02:08:41):
As long as you alive, you can give another trash
and take a real high if you want to know.

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