#219 Charlie Kirk: 5 Days Later (Part 1)

Truth Hooligans… this is not just another episode. This is the beginning of a national unraveling. In Part 1 of our explosive series on the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the Nebuchadnezzar peels back the first layer of a moment that will define a generation.

In this opening chapter, we examine the official narrative, the chaotic first reports, and the identity of the first suspected shooter. As always, things don’t add up. Inconsistencies. Disappearing witnesses. Media coordination. The machine moved fast to control the message—but not fast enough for the truth to slip through.

Was this the work of a lone gunman? A political hit job? Or the opening salvo in a psychological operation designed to plunge the nation into controlled chaos?

Parts 2 and 3 will unlock even darker questions—foreign intelligence ties, deep state coordination, and whether the entire event was a false flag engineered to target dissent and silence voices challenging the matrix.

This is not speculation. This is not entertainment. This is a warning.

We’re not pulling punches. The world is watching.
Pour the whiskey. Steel your nerves.
The war on truth just turned deadly.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
P P P P.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
P P.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
P P P pat.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
The only thing we have to fish.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
And I'm Chris, and our introduction sucked.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Listen, listen, I'm the lither guy.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Dude, what dimension are you from? It will happen, I'm
sure you think so. Yeah, because people are dumb.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
But why is it always rushing guys to go smash like?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
What do you mean, mesh?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Smash it?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's a mouse.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
But I can willingly admit that I got violently too
high for my first.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
This is your last chance after this, there's no turning back.
You take the blue pail. The story ends. You wake
up in your bed and believe whatever you want to do.
You take the red pail. You stay in wonderland and
I show you how deeply rabbit.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Hole and Welcome to another episode of Whiskey, Beer and
Conspiracy Podcast. I am one of your host Big Country
as always.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
On the earth and all the way, it's.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Me boy, That is right, it's your boy, boy. Yeah,
back in the saddle for another one.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
We we recorded an episode maybe two and a half
weeks ago. I haven't released it yet, just because we
got really busy. Left the company that I was working for,
I'm back in Kansas now. We're moving into our home,
fairly moved in, so stay tuned for that. But if

(02:48):
you're watching this live right now on Rumble, you probably
know based on the line headline of the show what
we're gonna be talking about. But before we get into that,
I kind of wanted to explain some of the parameters
of how we're going to do.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
These next few shows.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
So tonight's show is going to be a hard hour
and we're basically going to walk you through the quote
unquote official narrative for what took place on September tenth.
It's gonna be broken up into like a three part episode, right,
So I truly believe that we're facing three potential scenarios,

(03:26):
and I, for me, I can't definitively say one over
the other. I might lean one way, you know, versus
the other, but that is to be seen as more
information comes out. And if you're a listener of the show,
you know our rule, right, we don't say shit about
anything for seventy two hours, you gotta wait three days. Realistically,

(03:50):
just like the launched war with Ukraine just a few
short years ago, we could have said shit in twenty
four hours now, mind you, or five days later from
the the event. So we're gonna get right into that.
So if you are watching on Rumble, thank you guys

(04:11):
so much for jumping in white Rabbits in the house. Cameron,
mick Len Mick Damn, I'm gonna fuck your name up. Sorry,
brother Cameron Mick Len Lenden, Cam. We're gonna call you
Big c Mac. You guys know me by my street
name Lil Epinephrin. So yeah, I want to get into

(04:34):
that tonight before we do that. You know, we always
kind of start with some comments. I want to go
through those real quick if I can, and we'll we'll
we'll kind of we'll jump right into it there. But boy,
what's been new with you?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Man? Oh? You know it's the same old stuff. Man,
just been working.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I got back to jiu jitsu yesterday for the first
time in a long time. Oh, immediately got injured. Ankles
are good now. My thumb got trapped in a gee
and dislocated. But other of that, I'm good, felt good. Otherwise,
the Lord was gracious to grant you another Yeah, you know,
God looking down like, hey, you took too much time

(05:19):
off and I want you to remember what it feels like,
you know what I mean. So it's all good though. Otherwise,
feel good. Kids are doing great, wife's doing great. It's
actually making some Dungeons and Dragons dice. Dom's in a
in a D and D club at school. Hell yeah.
So yeah, dude, I'm super stoked for him. He's super

(05:40):
excited about it. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna start doing
a like a monthly D and D game with the family.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
So, oh, careful, dude, you might get some demigorgs. You know,
I've seen a show. I don't know, I've seen a show.
It's pretty convinced.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
No it isn't it. No Ouiji board stuff, just just
D and D.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Just y that one user that one time that was like,
you guys should do a live show and play with
a Wigi board, And I was like, oh, you should
probably go fuck yourself.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Actually no, thanks, dude. I'm down to like go to
a haunted spot, but I'm not fucking with a Wigi board. Dude.
Yeah that's a good call. I mean, I don't I
don't think anybody would disagree. Yeah, pass, hard, hard pass.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Okay, So we do have a few comments to just
run through very quickly. These are from a while ago,
but here from episode to eighteen. Chat GPT confirms the conspiracy,
but all of them from I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
What this name.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
We might have read this comment, but the comment is
has anyone considered that? Chat GPT can't tell what's real
and what's fiction. It finds references to your questions, books, articles,
post but can't determine authenticity. So, yes, these events or
places exist, and it's shirt and it's search, But so
does Spider Man.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I think I do?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I think we did?

Speaker 4 (07:03):
We?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Do you remember that one? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:06):
I always read that one. We might be repeating these.
We smoke a lot of weed and it's been a
while since we read these, so I'm just gonna burn
through them. The user name was one ct seventy eight
g s R L r BW three n E n
o q x F seven K six l D.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
So that's a bot, dude. Chat GTP wrote that question.
That's fucking yeah, Now get out of here with that, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
GPT threw en off, thrown us off the centre, Yeah,
get out of here, goodness gracious oracles. Oracles said, I've
always had a theory that one kind that I kind
of stole from the movie Avatar. When you die, you
wake up in a pod with a VR headset kind
of a thing on, and it's just a game to
keep our minds active while we're in cryo being transported

(07:55):
to another place because Earth doesn't exist. Not sure how
that would work, but I've always played around with a
theory and thought it was kind of cool to think
about life in a different perspective. Actually, Oracle, that's fucking terrifying,
And that's the plot.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Of a matrix. I don't like it, Like it would
be cool to watch a movie based on that, you know,
where you're like, you die, you wake up and then
you're like oh, and then the doctor's like, hey, go
back to bed, and then you wake up in a
different like Avatar whatever, You're totally different.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Uh, you know it sucked, dude. What if you woke
up in a tranny? Oh god, you know that'd be weird. Yeah,
he's so weird. Paul A here says it does make
me wonder what limits and or bounds chat ept has
as far as where it can get info from. It
is grabbing from the dark web and sealed info. Obviously

(08:44):
we know the firmament is real and all the other stuff.
But I really do wonder. I bet it can even
access the secret folder on Big Country's computer that has
all of his special videos of him gagging on those
foot long dongs. And I love the I love the
background music. These turds complaining can suck a fat one
like Big Country does every night, double burn, double burn,

(09:07):
held on words, my you got me, he got me.
I was gonna say. There was one more comment that
popped up just a few weeks ago. Somebody replied to
a comment from episode two nine.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I'm trying to get to that comment. It doesn't want
to pull it up here. I wonder if the original
poster fucking deleted it. Uh, let's see Mar's works so fantastic.
Shame on you.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Oh I think okay, it was the It was the
reply to racious comment.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Shame on you.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Longtime fan lost the replies. I won't let me see
the replies. That's really weird. I can read it on
this this corner here, but it says Mike m g
b P thirteen said you'll be back in a few years.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Nice, your mind has woken up. Yeah, So thank you
guys for all those comments. Again, we do. We do
have an episode that is recorded that will be coming
out soon, so so bear with us on that one.
But obviously tonight's is, you know, a live episode. I
see Kat Jones here, I see both of you are
still repping the wrong side of the Bay Bridge.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
There's only one team in the bay.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
All right, shoot boy, hey did you see the Did
you see my story on Instagram?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
I did it. I do it every week that the
Chiefs lose. Oh dude, so I busy man. This season
it's a red it's a red background. And this week
it said oh, dash too, and then it was the
Florida state.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
And then I followed that up.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
With oh and two. I love it. I've been enjoying
the NFL season so far. Yeah, did you know the
Niners have We have two wins, very sloppy wins. I
will say, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say sloppy. They weren't
the first one. They were. They were gritty, they were
they were hard fought wins you had to get, you

(11:17):
had to go and get it.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah. I want to say, dude, that I can definitively
say as a Niner fan that Seattle should have beat
US week one.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
They should have they they definitely, Yeah, they definitely should have.
That's why I call that one a gritty one. Right,
we didn't give it away. There wasn't really too much.
The penalty has got to stop for sure. Yeah, but yeah, Seattle,
they had that in the bag and uh we had
to go and get it, you know. So yeah, no,

(11:47):
but it was good to see hey. And then and
the last six out of the last or four out
of the last six times the forty nine ers started
two and oher on road wins, we won the Super Bowl,
or yeah, went went to super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
So possibility, possibility. But the big news here, boy, September
twenty first preseason hockey starts. Absolutely and I am so
effing excited. But let's go ahead, man, let's go ahead
and get right into it. There was a comment on
Rumble that they were asking if this was going to

(12:21):
be uploaded after the fact, and yes, it will be.
Cat Kat Jones did answer for us, but yeah, Rumble
automatically US uploads it. But this will be an audio
version on our on our podcasting platform. Now, what I
will say is for parts two and three, there's gonna
be a lot of video that we're going to share,

(12:43):
so you can watch those on Rumble because those will
both be live, but if you if you miss it,
you can watch it there, or if you want to
subscribe to our channel, it's five bucks a month and
then you get everything. But that one's going to have
a lot of visual representations because there's really no way
to talk about this in lengthy detail unless you do that.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, if I can make a request, I'd like to
not see that video anymore.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Though it's pretty. It's pretty graphic, man, it's pretty. It's
extremely well.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I guess we can start with the day it happened,
right normal, last Wednesday. I gotta say, when I woke up,
I was thinking to myself on the way to work, like,
holy shit, tomorrow's September eleventh, right, So I'm like, cool man, Like,
what kind of tributes am I gonna see from some

(13:37):
of the people I follow? Because mainstream like they've all
forgotten about nine to eleven, right, and I think more
so after what happened to Charlie.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
But oh that's the new nine to eleven dude.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, And so I I you know, I'm I'm where
I'm at work with my buddy Kenny it's just him
and I at our shop. I go to the bathroom,
I come back into the office and he goes, hey,
do you see what I just sent you? And I
was like no. So I pulled my phone out and
I'm like, oh shit, and it was the far away

(14:10):
view right, and I'm like, dude, he slumped like that's
not good, man. I hope he pulls through blah blah blah.
And then I send it to another guy that I
work with and he goes, check this out, and then
that was the close up, and I was like, oh shit,
I almost dropped my phone, dude. I was out standing

(14:32):
in front of my truck in the parking lot and immediately,
because me and me and my buddy Kenny were getting
ready to leave, go down to fucking our other building
and work down there. And I run back inside while
he set in the alarm. I'm like, dude, did you
see what just got sent to the group chat. He's

(14:54):
like no, So I pull it up and he's like
fuck dude, and we just kind of sat they're stunned
for a good ten minutes, and we were like, Okay,
what the fuck happens now? Like this isn't a normal thing. Dude,
this is like MLK level for our generation and everything's

(15:15):
changing right now, you know. So after that, dude, yeah,
you know, mind you.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
We have not seen anything like that. No, I haven't
seen anything. I'm gonna say traumatic because it was. For me,
it was very traumatic. I haven't seen something as traumatic
as that since nine to eleven. And I was twelve,
and you know, I'm thirty six now, so that was

(15:45):
twenty four years ago. So it was it was really wild,
you know, And I remember I didn't know about it
because on Wednesday that day, so I had all last
week off, so we were kind of unpacking and getting
things cleaned up and moving stuff, you know, and we

(16:05):
were breaking it up so we weren't trying to kill
ourselves all in a couple of days and we had
some time, and we actually had at the time, we
have we had somebody come by and install like a
whole house water filtration system. Okay, so it's like that
salt water deal that purifies all your water coming in
and then going out. So homies in the basement doing that,

(16:27):
and at the time, I was in the basement because
we have a finished basement and the room that I'm
in right now will eventually be my studio, Like I'll
have a hole set up and built ins and a
TV mounted and all that good stuff. It's just takes time.
But I was kind of sorting through all my collectibles
and video games and stuff, stoned out of my mind, dude, chilling,

(16:51):
like boys are upstairs playing with mama, and it was
just it was just a good time. It was beautiful weather.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
A way to ruin your high dude.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, dude, I didn't. I'm not say it ruined it.
It fucking intensified it. Oh yeah, that So you sent
the link for the X video in the group chat
and and and what you said was holy shit, he's dead.

(17:18):
And I was like, damn, like because I didn't. I
didn't feel like there was no tag on it right something,
and like just a guy a fighter car crash, you
know what I mean, Dude fell off a bridge. You know,
I don't know who knows what we said. We sent
crazy ship to each other all the time. And then
I pulled it up and it's the fairly close up
view of Charlie Kirk being uh being shot. And I

(17:43):
was like, oh my god, yeah he's dead. Yeah, Like
I forget all this like and this this sounds like
extremely cruel, but like when it happened and then it
spread like wild, I mean like this was the whole
world saw this. So again, it was a nine to

(18:05):
eleven type level of mass influence because it affected us.
And when I saw that, I was like, oh my god,
he's dead. And this might sound really cruel, but like
I saw everyone posting videos about like prayer to Charlie's
prayers up to Charlie's everyone stop right now and pray.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I'm like, guys, there's no coming back from that.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I listen. The Lord is My Savior works in mysterious ways.
I've seen crazier things before. But the thing that caught
me initially was you know how in movies when someone
gets shot, they're like, but like, if you've ever seen

(18:49):
someone actually get shot, his body mechanics looked like someone
who had truly been shot, right, like the body goes stiff,
limp fell, And I was like, dude, my heart rate
was elevated for like a good two and a half hours,

(19:11):
like I was in like fight or flight. Yeah, And
truly what it what it was was watching someone be
murdered live. Who's a massive influencer who I've I've listened to.
I follow him. I stopped agreeing with Charlie Kirk a

(19:34):
long time ago. Not about what he says about Christianity,
or society or abortion. I didn't. I disagreed with none
of that. I disagreed with his uncowering submission to supporting Israel.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
And I'm like, but some of those views may have
changed in the recent weeks leading up to his death.
And we'll get to which in a later show.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh yeah, but which I want to preface this dude,
I didn't even know me either. I didn't know that
he was challenging it.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
No, Well, see son to last fucking Officer Tatum. Yeah,
I know that we're getting we're getting a little bit
ahead of the disclosures here that we're gonna make. But
everything you just said one thousand percent agreed with. The
only thing I ever really disagreed with Charlie on was
his stance on Israel, and the I still followed him.

(20:32):
I still consumed what he was putting out there because
everything else he had to say was fantastic, right, There
was absolutely nothing wrong with it. Even if you didn't
agree with him. This guy was probably as far as
his attitude towards the left goes, was the biggest moderate, right,
he was the nicest of us. Charlie was respectful. All

(20:56):
he did was debate, right, probably future politician, just because
he had that kind of influence. He was already rubbing
elbows with Trump and and guys like that. But I
think once he kind of hit the political arena, he
started to understand how is reel truly works and that
kind of changed some things. But you know, immediately, immediately,

(21:22):
like you had said, this is one of the first
things you had said was this is a political assassination.
A political hit, is what you said. And I didn't
really know what to call it until you had said that,
and then it hit me like, holy shit, Yeah, you're
one hundred percent right, this is a political hit. Now
the rules have to change, right and immediately, because you know,

(21:46):
his family's typically with him when he's doing those big
college events like that, and they were there, and it
was like it was all I could do to try
and get as much news as I could. I was.
I was convinced you was dead immediately, like you said,
I was. I was really praying that he would get

(22:07):
to the hospital and a miracle would be performed, but
you know, I my own my own eyes couldn't lie
to me. Yeah, and it was just kind of like,
holy shit, what do we do now type of feeling,
you know, super scary, super scary. But then immediately it

(22:30):
was like nobody wanted to give any official information, and
once again, you know, uh, citizen journalists were the ones
digging through. We start seeing uh videos of people cheering,
start seeing videos of people doing weird shit with their hands,
start seeing guys on top of buildings and things like that,

(22:52):
and uh, it was like the FBI trying to play
catch up with what citizen journalists were doing, you know
what I mean, Like we already we already kind of
had an idea of where the suspect was. We had
a silhouette of the suspect, and then the FBI comes
along like, yeah, that's the guy that we're looking for.

(23:12):
It's like, yeah, we know, dude, you know, have a seat.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Guy, Yeah, Cash Hotel.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah fucking dude, and Cash Betel's little fucking uh we
have the watch. Now I'll see you in Valhalla. I
was like, dude, okay, settle fucking down. First of all,
First of all, stop playing hell divers. Yeah, yeah, you're LARPing,
totally fucking LARPing right now. See you in Valhalla? Brother,
got the fuck up? Dude?

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Oh will you cash?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah you said you see you in Valhalla to like
the biggest Christian figure that we've known since fucking forever.
See you in Valhalla is what you came with. Dude,
get out of here.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
You see that? Did you see that meme that I
sent you? And it's a picture of Charlie Kirk in
Heaven shaking hands with Adaf Hitler?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, and Jesus is behind it.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Jesus is like told you and the Jews was the Jews?

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, it was the Jews and Jesus goes told you.
Damn that was that.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Was so funny when I saw that. We'll get to
that in a later episode.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
But.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, dude, yeah, from the beginning, you know, it was,
like you said, heart rate going because you weren't sure
like what was going to happen next, you know, and
then you start to think about guys like you know, Rogan,
Benny Johnson, like these guys that attend these big turning
point even Myron who's also at a lot of those

(24:39):
turning point events, and as much as I can't stand
his stance on Israel, Officer Tatum too, you know what
I mean. But you have these big conservative figures, and dude,
and a lot of them got you know, like the abolitionists,
the abortion abolitionists who are also part of Turning Point.
They go to college campus all the time and they
just preach the Word of God and how much life is,

(25:02):
you know, how valuable life is, and and things like that,
and and people are constantly telling these guys to fucking leave,
or someone should kill them, or they wish they would die.
They're constantly getting threats, whether it's online or in person.
And you know, we've spent how long just kind of going, okay, whatever, Well,

(25:24):
now it's a reality because of these fucking mk ultra
fucking kids out here, you know, pumped full of serotonin
and antidepressants and and I don't think that that gets
talked about enough. Serotonin reobtake inhibitors, well not Yeah, you
get SSR eyes. And but then you're also getting guys

(25:44):
that are on or or in the case of the
Catholic school shooting, girls that are on they're all almost on,
almost all of them are on antidepressants. They're on some
sort of fucking, you know, mood altering chemical drug that
is supposed to make them feel better, but it doesn't,

(26:06):
you know. And it's easier, in my opinion, when you're
fucking yacked out of your mind on all those things,
to be influenced and to be controlled, you know what
I mean. And people are it's crazy because I think
in the LGBT community, whether you're gay by trans or

(26:33):
you're just a friend of that group, you're all on
the same shit, you know what I mean. And I
don't think it's necessarily a trans issue. It's just that
most trans people are on a fucking cocktail of drugs
and they have no idea which ways up because they're
just fucking pumped to the gills, and people continuously tell

(26:56):
them this is affirming for you, this is what we
have to do. And then and you know, you get
a part of one group who says, hey, we should
start smoking conservatives, and then you're like, yeah, okay, let's
do it.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah. See, So that's that's one of the things, right,
Like I don't want to talk about the three scenarios
that I haven't had. We'll get to that towards the end.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Of the show.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
But let's let's let's kind of walk through the quote
unquote official narrative that we've been presented with. And I'll
do my best as I go through this to just not.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Swing one way or the other. Right where we just
want to official story.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, So twelve o'clock right in that window, Charlie kirkis
shot at University in Utah doing a speech for Turning Point.
Outside he shot his team rushes in, They grab him,

(28:04):
run him over to an suv, and I presumably rushed
him to a hospital. News catches like wildfire. I mean,
it was every single reel that I was swiping through
on Instagram for two and a half hours, like that
was everything. Yeah, of course you get like the occasional

(28:24):
like you know, sport video or what have you, just
based on your algorithm. But I kept hitting it, so
then I was trying to and and here's the here's.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
The unique thing about it.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Man, It's like when nine to eleven happened, I was twelve, right,
So I, oh shit, hold on, I gotta I gotta
plug my PC in real quick. Okay, sorry, man, I

(29:06):
was losing losing power on my laptop there, so I
wasn't old enough to could really conceptualize one what was happening.
I knew something bad was happening my mom and dad
or my mom. My mom was home with me when
I was happening. Mom was like, we're being attacked. So
I knew something that was going on right now. If

(29:26):
you listen to the show, I've told the story before
that I didn't really start questioning nine to eleven until
I was about eighteen years old at the time of
this happening. I'm shifting. I'm sifting through all these videos
right of this taking place, and all of it is
one or the other. It's stop what you're doing, Pray

(29:48):
for Charlie Kirk. That was half of the videos that
I saw, or clips or screenshots or stills. The other
half of it was citizen journalists just dumping information out there. Now,
from that point, it's difficult, at least it was for

(30:09):
me to try to rationalize in my head all the
shit that I'm seeing, because I'm already at a heightened
sense of alert right especially having kids. Dude, Like I
was pacing in the house, I was checking the backyard,
like I was all over the place, right, and then
you're seeing all this information, so you're trying to filter
what you can when you're adrenaline is pumping and you're

(30:35):
at a heightened sense of alert, so you're probably not
regurgitating everything that you're seeing. So I was like, fuck, man,
like I need to cool out. I need to chill
out before I really start to kind of open up
my mind to what I've just seen. Now, after he
is shot and they rush him away, they seemingly came

(30:59):
out with video mainstream media, we got him. I go, fuck,
that was quick. Yeah, that's the quickest apprehension of all
time ever. Because for anybody that doesn't know this, police
are not crime stoppers, they're crime investigators unless they are
there when it is happening. Like that's why cops don't

(31:20):
usually stop bank robbers from robbing banks, because they're not
in the bank.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
And it was this old dude, and I was like,
this geriatric fuck.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Took that shot. Well, he got cuffed. They were dragging
him away, and he was like, just shoot me, just
shoot me. I'm sure everyone's seen that video. And some
of the police officers were even like because people around
him were pissed. Probably part of the guys because no
matter what anybody can say, and this isn't even part

(31:54):
of like what we're gonna be talking about in the future.
Nobody can say about that video with the old man.
That was just a mistake. He was put there on purpose.
He was meant to do that. And I venture to
say that, you only probably need two or three people
around them to say that's the guy, right right, And

(32:16):
if I hear that and I'm out there and something happened,
I'm like, fucking let's get him.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Fuck this.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
What is this guy gonna do? Fucking rub Ben Gay
on his hands and get after it.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
No, fuck you, so slippery, Ben Gay bandy.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
So that's what I'll say about that, right, that was
planet on purpose. So I saw that and I was like,
well that was fucking quick, because my initial thought was
like lefty training, Yeah, right, lefty trainny.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Like, you can't say that.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
I'm not a fucking female with fits, ma'am, with my
dits and dick, I can get pregnant, sweetheart, I could
blow a massive load inside it.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
You'll never get pregnant.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
But anyways, so that was my first and thought. Then
I saw the video of the old guy and I
was like, what really weird.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
That was weird.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Right, I can even pull a bolt back, like because
I'm assuming it's it's a bolt action rifle of some
sort maybe, like you know, they always like to go
after arsa right, but like from the distance that they're
claiming that God was made from, Like that's a that's
a that's a decent shot with an ar. I can
do it, it, absolutely can do it. But anyhow, so

(33:26):
we were like, we got him, we got him. Now
all those videos, now, all those videos are coming out.
So from the time that he shot, within two hours,
they already had guy apprehended. Everyone's saying like it's this guy,
he's a leftist, blah blah blah blah. Then the tweets
come out from Benjamin Yahu. I'm really sorry to hear

(33:52):
about Charlie Kirk's death.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
He was a great friend of Israel. Trust me, I'm
the good guy. Yeah, Israel had nothing to do with
Charlie Kirk's assassination. If you feel the need to make
a video as a country to say we didn't have
anything to do with it. I got some more questions,
BB I was waiting for like laundry. I got some

(34:17):
more questions.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
I was waiting for like gigping to come out like, oh,
Charlie Cook, it was not the Chinese. Oh we love America,
not not, it was not us, right, like just all
these countries like we also did not have anything to
do with it.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Now all the other countries are looking at Israel like,
why the fuck did you put a video out?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
What an odd thing to say.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
That's very strange of you. Yeah, super weird. Right, So
immediately I'm like, huh, ears go up right, But still,
because like you said, everything's happening moving so fast. We
already had a guy apprehended. Cash Betel's already saying the
guy has been arrested, while the fucking mayor or governor
saying the guy hasn't been arrested. So it's like, okay,

(34:59):
nobody has as their fucking story straight. The director of
the FBI saying one thing, local law enforcement saying something different.
So at that point, you know, I'm trying to give
him the benefit of the doubt because it's Charlie Kirk right,
like this is a huge figurehead, and the idea that

(35:19):
they would immediately just have everything that they needed, you know, impossible, impossible.
They're going through the same emotions we are. What they
should have done was just shut the fuck up until
they got some concrete evidence. But that's that's kind of
what pushes these theories along, is these missteps on behalf
of law enforcement. They're saying shit, they shouldn't be saying

(35:41):
this early and investigation. They really don't have any proof
other than people saying that's the guy. And so when
a day goes by, right and officially we're not hearing anything,
but we're, like you said, seeing all these citizen journalists
post videos of a guy on top of building and
he's clearly holding a rifle, and you know, it's it's like, okay, well,

(36:06):
fuck man, where's that guy? And then you take a
look at the overhead view of the place and you
realize where that dude was was a huge tactical advantage
because you'd go through some woods and you're in a
fucking neighborhood. Yeah you're gone, you know what I mean?
At that point, so it was like, fuck, man, are
they gonna are we gonna have any news? And another

(36:28):
day like how long is this going to take to
find this guy?

Speaker 3 (36:31):
You know, yeah, one hundred percent, man, And it was
it was such a information overload of download and upload
that I don't care how good you are at this
or how long you've been doing this, And that's totally fine.
If you're like, I got it all figured out, well

(36:51):
you don't, because even if you could say I definitively know,
that's a positive claim and you now have to present
evidence for it. Right, nobody knew what was happening at
the time. Some people are probably you know, had they
had some inklings, they had some leanings to this, but
then more details started coming out of it. Right, So,

(37:12):
the the shot is supposedly claimed to be anywhere between
like one hundred and fifty to two hundred yards, Yeah,
somewhere in that in that window.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
So, not long after he shot, a couple hours, they've
already announced that they had the shooter. It was done.
Pray for Charlie. Then they announced that he that he died.
Then about an hour or so roughly if I'm you know,
my memory serves me correctly, then they announced that he's
that's not the shooter. Yeah, I said, well, okay, well,

(37:44):
I mean I kind of figured that.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, we knew that.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
So then they, they being the news, the mainstream media,
pose this new potential shooter Pitcher right of this young kid.
Now they've showed three photos initially of this kid. I
don't even know his name. I don't fucking care to
know his name. His name doesn't even matter. And we'll

(38:08):
get to why at the end of the show. But
it's three different fucking people.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, yeah, we've had three different people who they've claimed. Okay,
So at first it was we got him, then it
was we didn't get him, then it was we got him,
it was we didn't get him, then it was ladies
and gentlemen, we got him, right.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Okay, Paul's right there for a second. You and I
both went through nine to eleven.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
We went through the Iraq War, and we went through
Iran War. We went through Afghanistan. What did they say
when we caught saddamanus saying.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Now, let me so my buddy, Kenny, he's an army vet, okay,
and he's the same age as me. We went through
We talked about nine to eleven constantly, and especially this
close to nine to eleven. So we were watching that
press conference together and when he popped up and he said,
ladies and gentlemen, we got him. We both looked at

(39:09):
each other like shut the fuck up, dude, like saddam,
and instantly we were like, Okay, something's afoot. You know,
something don't smell right. And from that point on, it
was like, I'm gonna listen to everything these people have
to say, but I'm gonna listen cautiously because I know

(39:29):
most of this is gonna be bullshit. And so we
listened to the whole press conference they explained they had
this kid. I was hearing that they had a kid
in custody hours before they made this announcement, right, and
then we were already hearing about who the kid was,
who his family was, who his connections were. And it

(39:53):
was like they hadn't even come out to officially say anything,
and we're already ahead of the news side, you know
what I mean. Yeah, yeah, you know. It was really funny.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
I did see a post this this has come out
like a few days afterwards, right, but it was it
was more from like the left left left side of
the media. They post the pature of this kid where
he's holding it. Could it's supposed to be him, I
don't know, right, just showed a picture of a little
a little kid that's that's that kid or not right,
But he's holding like, you know, one of those like

(40:24):
daisy Ye rifle bb gunder baby.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, Dom's got.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
One history of gun activity in the family. I go,
a fucking BB gun?

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Are you shitting a BB gun in Utah? Get out
of here?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
A history of of gun usage in his life because
he is holding a red Rider bby gun. That's like,
that's a stretch. That's that's like, what's next, super soakers,
what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (40:58):
It's still not as hilarious as the dude from MSNBC claiming, well, hey,
we don't know if the shooter was actually aiming for
Charlie Kirk. For all we know, it could have been
a supporter who was shooting his gun in celebration.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
I heard that you and I was like, please, what
I understand You guys are paid to spin a specific
narrative and it's always the other end of the coin.
I get it. I fully get it. I understand. In
the wwe you have faces.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
And you have heels, right, like a well written story
and a well written story, and you can never break
from the story because that's a big no no in
the industry. Right but hopefully, hopefully you are not that
fucking retarded that when you read that, you went, now, yeah, yeah, yep,
yeah yeah. I mean, I mean, how do we know

(41:49):
it's not just someone doing a disk pop? Right?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
How do we know that?

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Come on, it's like.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Anyhow, so all this information is coming out. They had,
you know, multiple pictures of this kid, which, by the way,
like do you remember the Boston bombing, And then you
had all these dudes in the punish your hats backpacks on?

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah, the running a drill. Yeah, they're running a drill
that day. It was all over the place.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Or or like when you had like like the Roote
ninety nine shooting Stephen Paddock, and then like the one
photo that the only photo really you can find on
them is like when he's like yeah half yeah, Like
I'm like, that's the guy. That's the only picture you
can find them.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Got it?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
So three different pictures, like it clearly it's three different people.
But they're like, here's the person of suspect. I'm like,
the different three guys, Like you're you're already not spinning
a very good story here. And I understand. I understand
that once like this happens, it's not about who's right,

(43:03):
it's about who's first, And I get that. The problem
is is it is supposed to be the media's job
to be right and not first. So initially I was like, Okay,
the story's kind of already unraveling. Now let's fast forward

(43:24):
to just the overall what we're told is happening. So
this kid supposedly grew up in a Republican family. I
believe his father is a former police officer. Mother caretaker,

(43:45):
so I'm caregiver, you know, the same same kind of hospitality,
so to speak.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Industry.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Uh, they did try to push out a picture of
him wearing a Trump shirt, but that was that was
fake because the picture that they put it on, like
there was already a far away picture of that and
it was just a blank T shirt that he was
wearing in his room. And then they tried to put
like a T shirt, like a Trump T shirt on
it to spend the idea that it wasn't a leftist.
Well I don't even believe it was a leftist in

(44:12):
the first place. But the narrative is that this kid
from a Republican family lived a seemingly normal life, loving parents.
There's a bunch of stuff coming out about like his
mom posting he had like a four point zero GPA
and sky's the limit and so excited for his future.

(44:35):
Normal kid. Then they didn't like present anything in like
a like a one of those you know, those like
black and white notebooks.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Where he's just like, fucking I want to kill all
the fucking republic.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
You know, nothing like nothing like that. To my understanding,
he didn't have a Facebook. So again, that's weird kids,
these kids these days that are not in social media.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
That's very strange.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Although I mean, like.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
I'd give him a break on Facebook because most kids
probably don't have a Facebook, you know what I mean,
per se, But yeah, as far as social media goes, yeah,
they're pretty much like blank slate, you know, just like
the kid, the kid from Butler, Like, yeah, he had
no and it's like, dude, you shut the fuck up.
He at least had one or two social media accounts,
even if he didn't keep them current. Don't tell us

(45:22):
that he didn't. There was no there was no search
history on his computer. Yeah, you know, shit like that. No,
it's fucking it's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
But that he out of nowhere, like he goes to
college and then that the idea is that he's radicalized
either at college three Discord or Reddit one of three. Okay,
has a bolt action thirty six rifle with.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
An imported mouser.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Have a mouser, dude, badass going but that's yeah, so
a mouser. The Drummonds are like, we didn't do this
ship No. So he he walks to the event with
We're being told that the rifle was in his pants
and that's why he was like there's one video where

(46:20):
he's seen walking with a limp. Okay, So so the
official story.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Is this is that a mouser. Are you happy to
see me?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
He gets the rifle, shoves it in his pants. I'm
assuming there's no scope on it because that's just it's
not a fit, goes to the event, somehow scales to
the roof. There was no answer of how he scaled it.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Was it a ladder? Was it like a face ladder?
They said they found a screwdriver, so he.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
So he stood on top of it and then jump. No,
I've seen that a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
What do you mean he found he had a screwdriver?
What does that mean? So? How did he use the screwdriver?
Did he pry something open to get up the ladder?
Did he you know what I mean, like, did he
use it to fucking break in through a door access
or something?

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah? Yeah? And then now I want to say, it
was like an automotive parts store.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah. I think it was a shop. I think it
was a shop. It looked like because I remember I
saw a post you had commented on when you said
who owns, Oh, who owns that shop such and such automotive? Yeah.
I can't remember the name of it. I just saw
it on there, but I was like, who owns that shop?

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Like?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Nobody was in the building. Look, man, like on a
fucking Wednesday, they're closed. I was at work. I'm a mechanic. Yeah,
and it's noon there. That guy should have been at work.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Yeah. I mean like even even so, brother, we live
in an age of technology and you're telling me there's
no cameras at an automotive store. Yeah, at a shop?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:57):
This is like again, this is like nine to eleven,
Like give us all the videos, right, Like those videos
are ours.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Now, right, because my biggest question was the kid in
the in the photos that they're showing us in the stairwell, right,
versus the video we see of several different angles of
a guy running across the rooftop. Look look a little different.
He's wearing different clothes. And their answer to him wearing
different clothes was, well, when he got on the roof,

(48:25):
he changes clothes once he was on the roof, and
then he took his shot. Then he changed clothes again,
back into the clothes he had on before, and then
he got off the roof. What the fuck are you
talking about? Yeah, so they changed twice on the roof.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Let's walk through that real quick.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
So he gets to the automotive place, Yeah, jumps onto
the roof with his screwdriver.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
And his pocket mouser. Yeah, and his pocket. Can you
imagine climbing a ladder with a mouse in your leg
in your pants? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Okay, So he climbs to the roof in some way
or fashion. I'll give you two scenarios here, right, let's
just say for the sake of the argument, it's in
his pants. Basically, climbs up to the roof looking like
fucking tiny tim Yeah right, with one stiff ass leg.
Climbs at the top, sets up his position. I'm assuming

(49:26):
he sided in the scope because any kind of slight
adjustment and your sights are off.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
You'll fucking miss. Yeah, hopefully it didn't jiggle around a
whole bunch while he's climbing up the ladder.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Okay, or the rifle is disassembled in a backpack. Okay,
I give you either. Or Yeah, a kid who has
exceptional shooting experience with his Red Rider Babe rifle takes
a thirty six one kill shot. It's kill shot to

(50:02):
the jugular for the sake of the argument, kills Charlie instantly.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
He was dead before he hit the.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Ground, disassembles the rifle, puts it back in his backpack, runs,
jumps off the roof, runs away. Sorry, backup, he's still
on the roof in his outfit. Change his clothes.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Back into his original outfit.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
So, so everyone saw you wearing the black T shirt
and you put on let's say, a blue T shirt
to do the shooting, and then you put on the
black T shirt that everyone saw you in. Right, So
that's not that's not great, you know, you know, serial
killer esque order esque ideas.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Of course, you know, he's a kid.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
So disassembles the rifle, he just clothes, puts it in
his backpack, jumps off the roof, runs away, runs through
the woods, assembles the rifle, back leaves it there, wraps.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Oh, he had a towel in his backpack. He had
a towl that he wraps the rifle in. He read
it in town. That's right, he did wrap it in
a towel.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Makes it all the way back home. Mind you, at
this point in time, nobody knows anything about this kid.
Quote unquote, right, nothing had come out about this kid yet.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
He just.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Murdered somebody. That is shook the entire world. Massive manhunt,
so to speak, is going under you know air quotes
here is underway.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
He is Scott fucking Free, gone in the wind, in
the wind, high close mind only for a moment.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
In the moment's gone. Maybe that's what he was humming
on the way home.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Could have been gets home scot Free.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Yeah, none the wiser. No one would suspect him. He's
a good kid, smart kid, future ahead of him, Republican
mother and father, normal household, and goes, hey, mom, dad,
guess what I did it? Yeah, NARC's on himself.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Well apparently apparently his dad said, hey, is there something
you want to tell me? Kind of deal, and he
was like, yeah, I did it, and so he was like,
all right, let's go to the police station. He's like, now,
I'm gonna kill myself. So his dad said, hold off,
let me get our youth pastor and you can talk
to him. Apparently this youth pastor also has ties to

(52:50):
the ATF. So so he's like, he's like talking to
the youth pastor, and then the and the youth pastor.
The whole time is like move, move, move move.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
We got him.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, we got him. And so so
then they they he turns himself in or whatever from there,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
So, oh, but check this out, dude. Do you remember
when they said that they had arrested that kid was
the next day, right, Yeah. So when they said after
well it was the governor of Utah.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
This said it.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
He said after thirty six long hours, well thirty three
to be exact. And I'm like, oh, here we go.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, yeah, there it is.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
He said, the man is over. We got him. No,
you didn't. He fucking walked.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
You didn't. You didn't get him.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Yeah, this is me. You're looking for me. Yeah, this
guy right here right now, I did read just yesterday,
he pleaded not guilty. And I read the report that
said he pleaded not guilty, and it says everyone around
him is cooperating, but he's not weird. So now I

(54:06):
want to know more about the father. I want to
know more about the mother. I want to know who
owned the automotive shop. I want to know where all
the video is from the automotive. What I'm going to
say is that as of right now, and this is
again just part one, this is just the breakdown overview
of everything that took place, and we'll go through all
the holes on subsequent parts two and three. There's one

(54:31):
thing that had always bothered me about the shooting that happened, right,
and this is a big point. Now, this is not
my original idea. We'll share the all of it right
in length on the next parts. But this is one
thing that really bothered me. So I hit up you
remember while Bill, right, Yeah, guy's extremely knowledgeable about firearms.

(54:53):
And I started asking him. I said, you know one
thing that really bothered me about this, I said, hundred
yard shot thirty six. Let's assume he I was just
posing this to him. I said, let's assume it was
an FMJ. Straight to the jugular right, it's not a ricochet,

(55:16):
it's not spaulding, it's not any stuff. Do you know
what y'aw is? Yeah, y aw Right, when the bullet
spins like, not this way if you're watching on it's
not this way. It spins horizontally.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Now, depending on the distance, there's a lot of different
things that in you know, influence that type of caliber, distance,
wind dropage, the actual distance of the target. Right, so
like the speed of the earth spinning, okay effect, people
fucking say that you are actually retarded. But like the

(55:58):
generally speaking, like the longer the distance you know you
have bullet drop, you have all these different variables.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Right, Yeah, the longer the distance, the more all those
varrels can pound the shot. Correct.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
So he replied with, well, it's probably not an FMJ.
It's probably a different type of caliber, not caliber, but
different style of round.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
You could be one hundred forty five grande hundred sixty
grain whatever. But the shot was actually reported as one
hundred and forty five yards.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Now it's even closer. I said, what are the chances, right,
what are the chances that someone gets shot at one
hundred and forty five yards and a very vulnerable part
of the body, right the neck.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
And the the.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Insertion of the bullet creates a perfect hole. There is
no exit wound. There is no bacterial spray on the
white ass background behind him. And I said, like, just

(57:18):
the entrance, like the entrance woman is so perfect. Like
do you remember when Kennedy was shot?

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Yeah, like kill shot right, like small entrance wound, massive
exit woes.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah. Now, to be fair, it was in you know,
Charlie's shirt, so we don't know what it looked like
underneath his shirt, you know what I mean? But I,
like you said, I was fully expecting exit wound to
just boom right, so it had to have been a

(57:57):
hollow point. But I'm still a thirty out six traveling
that fast like you're going to find a way out,
you know.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Yeah, so that was something that always really bothered me.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Now let me because let me look at the time here,
fifty eight minutes. So let's wrap it right here. We're
doing a hard hour, not a hard r but a
hard hour.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
I'm letting a band for that one.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
And be all right, I want to give you my
three scenarios. Okay, if you have more than these or
the same. We're good, but we'll wrap it here and
then we'll you know, be in preparation for parts two.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
In part three.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Here's my three scenarios. Scenario one is that Charlie Kirk
was killed on September tenth by a professional assassin, and
the kid is a patsy. Scenario two, right, is that

(59:05):
it was the kid they shot him, right, the story
is fucking wonky, chaos ensues he actually did all these things.
Scenario three and and and I'll share which one I
kind of lean between, because you know, as I said
in the beginning of the show, like I can't definitively

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say I can tell you which way I'm leaning right now.
Possibility three and and listen, for all the hooligans and
Julian Hooligan that's out there, I say this reluctantly. I
say the whole thing was staged. That's scenario three. I
think those are the three possible scenarios that we're looking at.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Either it happened the way that they said that it did.
He was assassinated by a professional shot with the patsy
planned and it was a political assassination by the State
of Israel. And scenario three is the whole thing was staged.
Those are my three scenarios I am at this point.

(01:00:12):
I've completely ruled out possibility to I am between one
and three. The hardest part for me with either of them,
when you really talk about it, is I feel like
you always have to contribute or attribute I should say motive, right,

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you have to attribute a motive. Now, you can pick
a motive out of you know, thin air and try
to make it stick, but when you really logically walk
through it, like, it's got to make sense to me.
And That's where I'm kind of at right now, like
I don't know which way I swing on this, and
five days is past, so I'm I'm not sure because

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I'm I can't pin a motive yet. But but BOYA,
what say you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
It's I don't think it was staged at all. I
think we all really saw Charlie kirk dye and he
was shot. Now, I would have two scenarios, which both
are on par with yours. The kid actually did it,
I believe, regardless whether the kid is a patsy or

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the actual kid, he was radicalized. That's what college campuses
are for. He has a tranny roommate slash boyfriend, he
was in the furry community, He all of all of
the you know, he has the Antifa writings on the casings,

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all of those things. In my mind, definitely say he
was a socialist. I wouldn't call him a leftist because
anti was a bit different, but I would definitely say
he was Antifa sympathizer at the least. And I think

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the more likely scenario is that he was complete MK ultra.
They convinced him that this was what he was going
to do. They convinced him that this rifle is going
to shoot actual rounds. He did get on top of
the building, he did shoot that rifle. It was more

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than likely blank rounds. He only expended one cartridge. Apparently
there was still four chambered. And I'm leaning more towards
the idea that this kid was made to look like
the one that did it and that there were several
people involved. It's too weird to have the guy telling

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the cops shoot me, shoot me, shoot me. Weird to
have the guy cheering immediately afterwards.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
It's the dude running running away with the gun guy
running away. It's it's too weird to have uh, a
kid ask a question about transshooters, and that kind of
to me felt like it was the trigger. I don't
give a ship what that guy that the one that
asked a question says, And I don't give a ship
what the guy who claimed that he's just a very

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happy individual and happened to be cheering.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Both of them are fucking liars. And I think it
goes deeper than that. I don't think those I don't
think maybe the happy, cheering guy was involved. But that
kid that asked a question, it seemed like he might
have been put there to uh, you know, kind of
like the flare, right, And I think the things will
we'll probably get into this later in later episodes, but

(01:03:53):
the airplane thing very strange, and his uh his walkbacks
on a lot of the Israeli stuff are more than
likely to blame here. But yeah, I think, for for
sure at one happened. That kid was most definitely there

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in the areas that they said he was in, but
I'm not convinced that it was just him. I'm not
convinced it was he was the one that took the shot.
Just like the kid and Butler. They've got him on
a roof, right, but they also see a guy on
a water tower and the building that the kids on
is empty, but it has a perfect view of you know,

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there's a building that has a perfect view of the
top of the building that the kid and Butler's on,
and there was Overwatch team on there. You know what
I mean. There's too many missed opportunities by these professionals
that citizen journalists are picking up. And the professionals have
no way to answer any of these questions. For us,

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we have no We have no choice but to drive
the narrative ourselves, and as a community, millions of people strong,
we're figuring out the details, you know. So it's it's
a lot harder for me to listen to Cash spew
his bullshit and the governor spew the same bullshit that

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Cash is telling them to spew. I think that the
kid was definitely involved, but more than likely not the
one that pulled the trigger, and we can get into
that on the next episode.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Yeah, there is there is one thing I do want
to say real quick, and we're going to end the
show here and again stay tuned for part two and three.
This is probably not what everybody was anticipating. As far
as you know, Part one goes but this is just
a rundown of the official narrative. There's there's a million
podcasts doing Charlie Kirk episodes right now. It's all they've
been doing for the past five days. I do want

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to say this, This was actually a point. I saw
this in a comment section and it was it was
made by Conman podcast. So shout out to those guys.
They've been they've been following us for a while and
we definitely need to get them on the show. But
they made a very interesting notation, and it's like, how

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did I not even see that? So you know how
there's multiple camera angles of what took place, right, Well,
there's one that's on the side of Charlie, like to
his to Charlie's right side, so you know how the
crowd is kind of like in a U shape, right, Yeah,
so like if Charlie's facing out, it would be on
his right hand side. It's a cameraman. I never even

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thought to think of this. So Charlie makes a comment
of you know, are we talking about gang related to Gundes,
puts down the mic, Bah slumped over everyone ducks. Cameraman
didn't move. Watch the video. He didn't move. He didn't flinch,

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he didn't duck. He was like, like, I don't give
a fuck how good you are. It's just natural reaction.
Balloons popping fucking makes me jum, you know what I mean. Like,
it's just a loud noise that people react to. Right,

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that cameraman didn't fucking move right, And I was like,
how did I not even see that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Great? I didn't see that video. I'm not sure if
the cameraman was had ear pro on for his job
or whatever that may have contributed to not flinching or not,
but I saw I guess I also saw some people
making some claims about some hand gestures that were being

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made by his security team. I don't think his security
team was involved. I believe that those communications between team
members are solely for the team, right. You know, hey,
watch the guy in the red hat or whatever it
may be. You know, but there's there's definitely like an

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overload of theories going on right now. We just kind
of got a wade through him. I know. My main
theory mine is, you know, as far as my my
theory chart goes, my main theory is that the little
hat people had a hand in it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
So and we are going to unpack this all on
parts two and parts three and just a catalyst in here.
He said, these are all really good points because I
didn't think the kid did it. These are all legit.
He says, his wife is in on it. He is dead.

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It was Israel mic Drop is the kid's last name,
Oswald Chance, right, And then he asked a question here
not on a tripod. Now, even if the camera was
on a tripod, he holds the shot steady, so either
it's auto panning for him or he ducked and was

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just accurately moving the camera, which I fucking don't buy
for a second, because then there's a there's there's there's
video from the other side, from the side that he
got shot on, And if you look closely without it
being zoomed in, those cameras never move either.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
So it's really really interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Now I don't even know if the cameraman that that
video came from was a cameraman or could have just
been a cell phone video or what have you. I'm like, like,
I literally have a four K camera now, Like the
quality is fucking tits, So I mean, who knows what
it was? And by the way, it's twenty twenty five.
I'm live streaming this show in my basement from a

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laptop with a four K camera, and you're still giving
me fucking blurry shots.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Yeah, from two different states, right with zero satellite delay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
That's good satellite. You're a fake, all right, man. Let's
wrap it here, like we said, stay tuned for parts
two and three hard hour tonight. I want to thank
everybody for stopping by. Please share the episode, Please like
and subscribe, boy, anything else you'd like to add?

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
No man who wigans? If you're listening, you have any
theories yourself, You have any comments, you have any clarifications,
any corrections, shoot them our way. The whole story is
forever changing until the day we die, so let us
know your opinions.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
We have a new nine to eleven, ladies and gentlemen,
so let's hit for this episode of Whiskey, Beery and Conspiracies.
We will see you on the next one. I have
been a big country. Come boy, and we'll see you
for Charlie.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Kirk five days later, Part two. Take care