F1 Dutch GP Race Review | Piastri’s Grand Slam, Rookie Hadjar Joins Podium, & Ferrari Chaos

In this episode, we break down all the drama from the 2025 Dutch Grand Prix at Zandvoort!

Oscar Piastri delivered a Grand Slam victory — pole, fastest lap, every lap led, and the win — extending his championship lead in dominant fashion. Max Verstappen returned to the podium at home, while rookie Isack Hadjar stunned the paddock by becoming the youngest French driver ever to stand on the podium.

But it wasn’t smooth sailing for everyone. Norris, Leclerc, and Hamilton all suffered DNFs, shaking up the title fight. Meanwhile, the midfield stole the spotlight with Albon’s P5, Bearman’s career-best P6, and Haas pulling off a rare double-points finish.

We also dive into Antonelli’s penalties, Ferrari’s strategy questions, and what this all means heading into Monza.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Let's talk about Hitler. That'll make sense later. I'm immaculately conceived.
I don't know what to do. I swear I'm not
stupid take it or lead that. Sometimes you just want
to leave it. I got to bar my mom's underwear.
I'm bar winger underwear.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
You just yeahs to jar Jar Beaks.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm not gonna edit it out.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Like I I got, it's pretty great suck. Why are
you saying with a question mark clap? Bitch? All right? Three? Two?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
What?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Actually? And we're live? I'm in it and I'm Jessica
it is where're yelling? Welcome back to another F one
race review.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Finally, we have been on a hiatus from race reviews.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
For the last month. Yeah, it's been it's been rough.
We're finally through the summer break.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
We done forgot everything we ever knew about Formula one.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, apparently the drivers did too, so it just all
around felt like we were all like, wait, what's the
sport again? Like what's how who are our front runners? Yeah?
Like what, I just forgot everything. I'm like, Max isn't
leading win apparently for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So we are going to be reviewing round fifteen of
the twenty twenty five Formula One season, the Heineken Dutch
Grand Prix.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
The track was the is it just Zanbort Dinort Support Circuit,
Danboart Circuit. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I like this track just in general. It looks really cool.
The banking is nuts. I thought it presented some interesting
moments for the race. Oh yeah, interesting, not in like
the best way for us personally.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
No, we were we fell victim hard this race. We
I feel it was a personal attack. Yeah, that was horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I think that the Zandbort track because this is uh,
this is Max's home race. He's from the Netherlands, and
I feel like all of his main ops were cursed
at this track because we had DNFs from people we
don't typically get DNFs from. We had Lando Norris, Charles
Leclair and Lewis Hamilton all DNF They were the only

(02:10):
three DNFs and they're all Max ver Staffins main opponents
or main rivals or have been at some point in
the past five years.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Russell should be offended. He's not a me not and
Mac was like, I didn't curse. I didn't do any
voodoo curses on you.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
So yeah, this was an interesting race. Some interesting results
and you're gonna tell us about those.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I am so our race podium. It was Oscar Piastree,
max Ver Staffen and Isaac Hutjob. That was so exciting.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
That was super fun. He was so excited, like that
was excited. That was great. I'm another one of max
Ver Staffin's adoptees. Yes, his little race rookies that he
his old ducklings. Yes, got a podium.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I was so excited for him. So with Isaac getting
his podium, that has moved racing Bulls from eighth to
seventh in the constructor standings, pushing Kicks Sober down to eighth.
So yeah, I was very excited for him. He is
just that. So he's our now our second rookie to
take the podium. So drivers standing wise, Isaac Kajar is

(03:21):
now in the top ten and he knocked out Oh
con Oh cool? Do you know that?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Like looking at the standings, I would have assumed that
Racing Bulls would have been ahead of Sober prior to
this because Isaac had such consistent finishes and Liam got
a couple of points finishes in there once. He kind
of found a little bit of a groove. I I
just I was so had been so impressed so early

(03:46):
in the season with Isaac. I thought he would have
the team as a whole, because we even have the
conversation about is the Racing Bulls car like overall a
better car than the Red Bull car, And it seemed
like it was because the two teammates for Racing Bull.
No matter who the two were, we're consistently performing similar
to each other and again consistent for race to race.

(04:09):
So I just thinking that the car is better, the
team is better. I would have assumed they were ahead
of Sober, but I guess with Nico getting that podium finish,
you know, several races ago, I guess that would have
bumped them up quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, and then Bortoletto, he's got a few points at
this point ever since they did that upgrade a few
races ago. And uh, I took Gleam a little while
to find his footing and he did have some d in.
I think he had at least one d nough for sure,
not too long ago. And yeah, so that was just
I was just very excited for Isaac. I'm like, oh yeah,
and then the joke's online. Everyone's like, bruh, whether you

(04:43):
want that red Bull contract or not, is common.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Is common, And the thing is, it's so unfortunate that
it's viewed this way because if Yuki had been left
in racing bulls and not been bumped up to the
red Bull seat, I think Yuki again could have still
been performing a similar level to Isaac at racing bulls.
But it's like, now that he's in this red Bull car,
it's just like there's not much he can do with it.

(05:08):
And you know, justice for Sergio Perez who had been
saying for a long time, it's not me, it's the car.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
This car is evil. Yeah, And speaking of Sergio Perez,
over summer break, we now know who the Cadillac drivers are,
which we pretty much said, well not what am saying.
The community as a whole pretty much already suspected it
was going to be Sergio Perez and Valtari Botas.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
And those selections make a lot of sense for a
brand new Formula One team coming in, they would want
some people who are a little more established, have some
experience in terms of developing a team, leading a team.
I think that those are two smart, safe selections, but
also they're proven race winners that you know, you give

(05:48):
them the car to compete and they can do great
things with it.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
We've seen that.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I mean, we've seen Sergio Perez do wonderful things on
other teams besides red Bull, where he was able to
put that you know team a car from a lower level.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Team racing point right. Yeah, yeah, he was able to
do great things with that car.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
And I mean both us again, is a race winner,
He's I feel like he's like an institution at this
point in Formula One.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
He's just there, he's part of it. Yeah, I mean,
and they're both drivers that have supported world champions and
been a part of that, and I just it'll be
I think it's a great pairing. And I kept hearing
the commentators talk about I know a lot of people
are saying, why not bring in young talent? And I'm like,
first of all, I've seen nothing of that online. But
granted I haven't been online as much as normal. But

(06:35):
we have enough. We have a they're on a young talent.
We need no more rookies on the grid. At the moment.
We're good. I think we're good, got plenty, and.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I get the idea that, like, you know, oh, bringing
two more seats to the F one grid should mean
we're bringing in two brand new person or. I get
that idea of people wanting that it should bring in
two brand new personalities, not bring two drivers we've already
seen on the grid before and who had you know,
some lackluster seasons or performances before. I get that perspective,

(07:09):
but I just don't necessarily.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Agree with it. Yeah, I like, I can, I can
see it. I just yeah, I just don't agree with it.
So yeah, but so that happened over summer break. Yeah,
and now you can tell us the fun facts. Oh yeah,
we did you do all the constructor steelings? Oh well
that was that was Nothing's changed, Yeah, nothing's changed besides
racing bulls stealing seventh everything else. Yeah, everything else stayed

(07:31):
the same, which means McLaren is still first and no
one's catching them.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, so they're the clear favorite. So for or, they're
the runaway winner.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah. For the constructors, they're going. So who's second? Right now?
I think it's I think it's still Ferrari. I will
vertify that though, still Ferrari even after two DNFs. But
so Ferrari has two hundred and sixty points and Mercedes
has two hundred and forty eight points.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Okay, so dang even with the double DNF and then
the they also what is it a double disqualification in
China for Ferrari.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, but Kimmy, I mean he had several dfs. Yeah,
he had some issues and then I mean he had
he got penalized, so I don't think he finished even
within the points.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah for races. So okay, I'm trying to like balance
it out of my head. Okay, where were we making
up and missing points?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Se because I mean, after all his penalties and stuff,
even from this race, he finished sixteenth, so no points.
So I think too with you, you realize like, oh, yeah,
they finished the race, doesn't mean they get points, but
like when you see Mercedes, you're like, no, they finished first,
their points up? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Moving into our fun facts, which is my favorite section
of every F one race review. This was Oscar Piastre's
ninth career victory, which ties his manager Mark Weber's career total.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
That's fun. Yeah, that's nuts.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
This was Pastre's first career podium finish at Zanbort They're
calling it a Grand Slam win for him because yeah,
he took Poll, he won the race, he got fastest lap,
and he led every lap of the race, making it
the first. But they call it a Grand Slam win
for a McLaren driver since Mika hiking In in the

(09:14):
nineteen ninety eight Monaco cron Prix.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
I thought there was another one because someone else, maybe
somebody else had a Grand Slam though, and we were
talking about it because so this was for a McLaren driver,
for McLaren driver, Okay, well, because I remember we were
talking about someone else had a Grand Slam cause I
remember I was like, what's that and we talked about it.
So I don't remember who it was. No, it wasn't
a Grand Slam. It was a.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
There was another word for it, okay. But they basically
got Poll, won the race and got fastest lap. Okay,
that was it was. There was another word for them.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Oh okay, it was a hat trick. Hat trick, that's what
Patrick was those three.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So the Grand Slam is the four Oh yeah, it's
a it's like a tennis term too, I think. Okay,
grand Slam is when they win like the four turn major,
like turner, it's like the racing he got. Yeah. But yeah,
so this one was Paul won the race fastest lap
and led every lap of the race, which I believe.
I also saw that this is the first time Oscar

(10:09):
has done that where he's led every lap of the
race where he then won. Okay, so Oscar Pastri is
the first Australian since Jack Brabham to take a Grand Slam.
Jack Brabham would have gotten a Grand Slam in Belgium
nineteen sixty and Great Britain in nineteen sixty six.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Wow, well nice Oscar.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Just to say that Oscar led from starting to finish
for the first time in his career and he now
leads the Driver's championship by thirty four points.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah that poor Lando.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, so thinking about like just Oscar's race in general,
he I mean, he just did the thing.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
He did what he needed to do.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, he held the lead at the start of the race.
He maintained it. There wasn't really ever a point where
he was under attack.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Not too bad.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Lando for a little bit was kind of catching up
to him, but he was never really in that good
window to be able to overtake him. So I don't
think he was ever really under threat from Lando, other
than maybe the pit stop strategy.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
They could have tried to.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Do something there, but ultimately, I mean Oscar just had
a really good weekend.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, Which it was funny because I think Lando was
like the favorite McLaren driver going into the weekend because
he just had like an overall before the rates like
a better weekend. It was like seemed like the better
or the stronger driver of the two. And then just
qualifying Oscar, I'll qualified him, so I mean he did well.
I don't know that we'll know what would have happened.
Obviously Lando didn't have the failure that he had on

(11:36):
the car, but that sucks.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I think someone said that.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
In order for for basically at this point in the season,
it's we're pretty much looking at McLaren one two finish
for every race. They're going to be the favorites to
be one two finish. The problem with that for Lando
is that in order for him to surpass Oscar in
the driver standings, if they're both one two finishing, Lando

(12:04):
has to finish in first every time every time for
the next like five races, and then he would be
one point ahead of it.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
So really, and some of the that's of Oscar is
even finishing second. So yeah, and I think it was
joryland Palmer saying basically that that's why he he really
needs a Ferrari and Mercedes and Red Bull and just
get up in there and make it harder for Oscar.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, they need to, We need some of their opponents
to be in the mix a little bit more if
Lando has a chance to really get in there. So,
I mean, you know, and we've talked about this in
previous episodes, I feel like people keep expecting for this
to be Lando's season and it's just not shaping up
to be that way, and they keep expecting, you know,

(12:49):
keep going into weekends.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Oh, Lando's the favorite. Lando's the favorite.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
But if you look at qualifying and you look at
race wins, and you look at racecraft, it just seems
like Oscar overall is doing better as a driver this season.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I mean, he's the prodigy.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah and yeah, but people just keeps it Landa's the
favorite to win it, And I'm like, at what point
is Oscar the favorite to win it?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Oh? I think Oscar is the favorite to win it.
I think it's just peace again. It's just and then again,
it can just change the drop of a hat.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I know. All it takes is like we saw here,
it takes one engine failure, one thing out of your control,
one mistake that something goes unlucky your way, and then
you know you're the fight is back on for the
championship exactly. Thing like that's I mean, you know how
Formula one is.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
They just remember the most recent thing that happened, all
of a sudden over summer break. For over summer break,
it was all Lewis Hamilton is, Oh my god, it's horrible.
It's like like he hasn't been in the top ten
every single race basically besides time. Yeah, he's washed up
and he's done. He's horrible and I'm like, what the Yeah,
I have the chick. But yeah, so you know that's

(14:02):
just how the fandom goes. Yeah, So moving on to
he too.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
We had Max for staff in he ended his longest
run without a podium since twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, so
he went, this is his longest run without a podium
since that was four races. So we ended that streak,
which was a bad streak. We don't like that streak. No,
he has never finished lower than second in his homegrown

(14:28):
person that's right.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Hold up, this isn't this is Brazil last year. But
I got my MAX shirt on. You can't see the back,
but yes, it's cool. It's a it's a MAX for
staff and it's a MAX for Staff shirt. I was
very happy about that. Let me tell you though. At
the start, I was like, get him you. Oh, I
just hate to see Max for Steff and coming. I mean,
I love to see him coming, but they gotta hate.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Seeing him coming because I'm like, he's gonna get you.
So let me set the scene for you of me
watching the start of this race. Okay, So I was
planning and I did wake up like well before even
like the pre race show, and I was planning to
watch that, make my coffee and my breakfast and then
sit down. And you know, the keyworder I heard was planned.

(15:13):
I did wake up and fell promptly back asleep. Was
a wait for like thirty minutes, fell back asleep. So
I then wake up about five minutes before the race
is supposed to start, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Like, ah no, I still need my coffee. I at
least have to have my coffee with me on during
the race. Tap to me and tell I have my coffee.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
So literally, I'm like rushing in my kitchen trying to
make my mum little cup of coffee.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
And then I hear I hear Alex Jake say.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
And the green flag has waved to the back, and
I'm like, ah, and so I mean like turn around
and face the TV.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I just I just stand there and I'm like staring
at the TV, like what's happening.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
And so then I'm sitting there, standing there in the
mid of my kitchen watching this happen, and I'm screaming.
I'm like, mix like all the embarrassing noises.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I'm not embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I'm just screeching because it was I mean, Max just
fully sent it. I'm like he's lost his mind. He
was like, I'm not, I'm not back in all.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I think if me and you watch, like actually watched
the twenty twenty one season, we would be like, oh,
that makes more sense because I got never like I
didn't watch that full season obviously. I mean my coverage
came from Drive to Survive and Travis telling me about
it while it was happening. So and I see clips
of Max from back then where it's like, oh my god,

(16:28):
that's a scary dude, he's so, I'm like, man's no
fear now, was not hesitating? Somebody somebody went, he is
not driving like he has a wife and kids at
home for real. Yeah. He he just fully sent it.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
He had a little bit of a wobble. He recovered beautifully.
I was like Max, and I mean, he just took
that place from Lando. And then they asked Max about
it in the post race press conference and they're like, so,
just take us through kind of that move, and you know,
did you think at any point like that you could
maintain that lead in front of Lando? And Max was like,

(17:03):
you know, I knew my only chance really was to
go start with this offs and make my move at
the start and try and get the place, and I did,
but ultimately, like the pace just wasn't there, which you know,
we saw when Lando was able to catch me and
he never took me and did a really good job
and Max said, uh, And even the during the race,
the F one commentators were like, it doesn't look like

(17:25):
Max was really putting up much of a fight because
we know Max.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
We know that if he doesn't want to give up
his position, he won't. He won't, he just literally won't
he just won't do it. You're both gonna crash.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, and so uh, Max just kind of like let him.
He didn't really put up much of a fight, and
they asked Max about that. Max is like, like, I
just really didn't have the pace to maintain that position.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Uh, and I knew that, Like, it doesn't make sense
to try and put up a fight and fight that
hard for a lap or two to defend that position
when ultimately, like it's gonna happen at some point, Lando
would overtake me. He's like, but you know, I wanted
to have some fun, so I made a couple you know,
I made the pass at the start, and I just,
you know, just might have some fun.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
And I'm like, I like it.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
It like that perspective. Yeah, I just to this day,
and I know sometimes it sounds like I'm a drive
to survive hater. I just think it's so funny that,
like in the within the F one community, for the
most part, everyone loves Max, Like the people that actually
like that follow him like he's such a like, especially

(18:27):
because I've watched some of his like outside documentaries when
it comes to the sim racing stuff and to just
see how passionate he is about like he just he's kind,
like he's he seems very kind, and to just see
him betray its like the meanest person like satan himself
and drive to survive. I'm like, dude, that's not on
the track when he thinks or when he's like in

(18:48):
the car, that's gonna win. Yeah, but anybody would be Yeah,
all the.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Drivers have Like you heard so many drivers say that,
like once you're on the track and the helmet's on
and the visor is down, we're not friends. Like we're
all bloodthirsty sharks and we're going for the win. Like
that's why we're here, that's why we do this.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Like when we went and go karting, I was like,
you better move sis, get out the way, take no prisoners,
huh huh. And so it's like that's all right.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
So like they're doing that to like the nth degree,
like it's just exponentially more and I get it. But
like outside of the car, like people like the people
that know Max and that have interacted with him directly,
like other drivers, people in the media, they have pretty
much nothing but kind things to say about him. Yes
he can be direct, Yes he can be blunt, but

(19:38):
he's never like unkind.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
No, I think, yeah, I think, and I think, you know,
if you take the bluntness as rude, then you're allowed
to do that. But I think at this point I
think too, it's like he's been around enough for if
you're there covering the sport, you know his personality. So
if you ask him something dumb and you get that

(20:02):
sort of blunt sort of response, you do not really
allowed in my opinion, to be like to get your feelings.
You're my god, Well what do you expect, bro? It's
Max for seven. Yeah, why'd you ask that I was dumb?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah? He uh, he will call it a dumb question
or say, you know, I already answered that. He goes
why though, he'd be like you know, or he'll say,
you know, I don't really want to talk.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
About that, or it'll be uh he'll or he'll give
like the snarkiest little response and hope he puts the
mic in his lap and he's like next, it's just
this closed mouth smile. Yes, oh it's so funny. But no,
I was so I was super excited to see Max
up there, and then he just was there. There really
wasn't anything else after Lando, you know, passed him. He
was just kind of there. Yeah, he was just holding

(20:42):
holding the spot. Yeah. I know they were talking about, oh,
is Isaac gonna is Isaac gonna overtake him or is
he gonna be told not to? And I'm like, I
think that one that shouldn't even be ready radio communication
which is allowed anyway because they're supposed to be separate teens,
which is Joyl and Palmer kind of talked about during
the race. But it's like, I think if Isaac has

(21:03):
the chance, he'd probably do it. Yeah, But I just
don't think it was there.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I think it's a different It would depend on the
position that they were in and what they were fighting for, right, Yeah.
So if this was if it was a case of
like Max's fighting like last year when he was fighting
Lando for the title, and if red Bull is fighting
for a constructor's like win like the number one position,
if they're in a very close fight, that maybe an

(21:30):
instance in which some sort of communication happens where they're like,
let's not, we're sister teams, like let's not.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Which part of me hates on, Like you shouldn't be allowed.
I agree you should not be but I get that
it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, but in this scenario, when Max is not in
the title fight, when Red Bull's not in the constructors fight,
I think that it's just like let him race because
at this point, doing anything else, to giving any sort
of team team to team orders, it's just bad look. Yeah,
it's a bad look publicity wise.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
But speaking of Isaac Hadjar, we already expressed some of
our joy on his path. So Racing Bolls rookie Isaac
Hajar took P three to become the fifth youngest podium
finisher of all time, behind Max Verstappan, Lance Stroll, kimy Antonelli,
and Lando Norris Nice. So he's twenty years old. He's
the youngest French driver to stand on the F one podium.

(22:27):
The previous record was Pierre Ghastly at age twenty three
in twenty nineteen. This was the sixth podium finish for
Racing Bulls in their team's history. That includes like when
they were known as other team names, so they didn't
have any podiums when they were known as Minardi. They
had three podium finishes as Toro Rosso. They had two

(22:48):
podium finishes as al Fatari and one as Racing Bowls
Isaac I was so excited for Yeah, so he tied
the best result for a rookie this season. So Kimmi
Antonelli also finished p three in Canada.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I just love that. It's like he had like the
start of the season was literally rough, like this first
race that was sad, that sucks so bad.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
He on the formation lap in Australia, didn't even get
to start the race and was just very upset, like
visibly you could, oh, we didn't see, but he kept
his helmet on, head down, walking all the way.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Benny Hamilton intercepted him and was like, it's okay, yeah,
so he was. And to go from that to just
your audio medium finisher in your rookie season to Max
first sapping too, like that's legit. And I love that
both Kimmy and Isaac got to finish on the podium
with Max there too, because Max is again he's kind.
He makes sure that like the people who achieved first

(23:45):
in the sport, like he's very congratulatory and like happy
for them and expresses that. So you know, Max being
up there got to spray the champagne on Isaac and
really like make a moment up. Do you see the comparisons.
They said, that's how you do a first person's podium
and they compared it to McLaren's with me go Hulkenberg
And I was like, the pictures and videos say enough.
I don't have to comment.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, and oh I did love that they had a
to accept, like the Constructor's Trophy.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
They had a woman up there. McLaren had a woman.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
It was their chief I think finance officer, their CFO
was on I was like, who she Yeah, it was
their CFO, which I love seeing that parents I think
I saw somewhere where she's only the twelfth woman to
accept an award, like up on the podium on behalf
of the team.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
That was cool. Yeah I noticed that. Well, yeah, I
saw her up there. I just wall I didn't know
who she was. Yeah, but uh I did like seeing
too that.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Speaking of women on teams, when they were showing the
Racing Bulls team celebrated so many girls.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
There's so many women on that team.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
When me and Trials were watching and I'm like, there's
a lot of there's a lot of girls. Yeah, And
I was like, are you hiring do you want some
more girls, We're down. So that was very nice to see.
So it's one of those things where it's like, I
know some people are likeation blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
And I'm like, no, it kind of does matter because,
like I see something like that, it's not a pandering moment.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's just a genuine I think that's well in the
moment sort of thing. Yeah. I think that's what it
boils down to is when anybody reacts so like coldly
to feel like they're being preached too versus like it
all goes back to show, don't tell. Yeah, you just
see a bunch of women and then that was it.
It wasn't like, oh and look at the garage, look
at all the girls, like you know, no one was
commentating talking about it, throwing it in your face. They

(25:27):
just were And so I was like, I was like,
that was really cool. That was very cool.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Finishing in P four was George Russell for Mercedes. That
was Mercedes best finish at Zandbort since twenty twenty two. So, uh,
George Russell, he what was his race? He had a
moment with somebody, was it Charles Charles overtook him?

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh yeah, girl, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Okay, here it
comes back to me. I was like, what happened with this?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Oh yeah, Charles sent it on George. Yes, and I
think they touched wheels. I believe they like mang And
I don't even know if like Charles was fully on
track still when he made that move, and I know
people were like, oh, they're going to investigate that, but
like looking at the the replay on that, he didn't

(26:14):
overtake while he was off track. He was still a
little bit behind George when he was fully off track,
it was he was back on track once he did
gain the position.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
So I don't know how that basically they said that.
When I looked it up later, both drivers went they
pretty much neither of them from all from all the
different angles could really present any of like evidence or
whatever that show Charles did this or show George did that,
because whatever, So they there was nothing. Yeah, they basically
just they were like, whatever it happened, They're like the

(26:46):
other Mercedes wrecked you anyway. So yeah, basically they dropped
it because Charles got into a moment with Kimmy. So
I mean, to be honest, is kind of good that
they didn't because then that would have carried over to Manza,
which is what's happened to our other Fari driver, which
we'll get to later. Yeah, So moving on to P.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Five, Alex Albin finished P five for william Oh my gosh, Alex.
It was Williams's first top five finish at Zanbort since
Keiki Rosberg and Derek Daily Dally in nineteen eighty two.
It was Album's tenth points finish of the season, his
most in a single season since joining Williams.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, Alex, he did a really hill job and I
have that I screenshotted that graphic because there was so
make there were people that gained so many places. It
was crazy. Yeah, it was. This race was actually super
interesting from like a strategy. Alex Album gained ten places. Yeah,
he started crazy. He started P. Fifteen, made his way
up to P.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Ten and they did an interview with him after the
race and they were like, what was going on and
he was like, I don't know. He's like, we all
went on summer break, we came back and it was
just chaos. He said, it was like the sea's opened
up and I just went for it.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
He literally was like, I started P.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Fifteen at once I made it up to and then
I just stayed on the track and then somehow ended
up P five.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, he was like, I don't really know that what happened.
Oh no, I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Finishing P six was Oliver Barman. It was a career
best finish for the host driver who started from the
pit lane. I would say Oliver Bearman is in contention
for Driver.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Of the Day. That's a good call.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
He's in contention there because he was again someone who
was kind of like, I don't know what happened. They
talked to him after the race and they're like, he's like,
the last two hours, I blacked out.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I don't even know. Yeah, He's like, I just was there.
I don't really know what happened.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I guess they just made the right calls for tires
or they took advantage of safety cars in the right way,
and we don't really know. He just was there.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
He was like, I was there and I was cool
with it, which I mean, that's just a great result
for him.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I know he's had some moments of struggling as well
this season, so that's got to be a confidence booster
for him for sure, especially after qualifying not great yeah.
I mean overall, Haas is a team didn't qualify great
like Estebon okon, he finished P ten, so it was
a double points score for HAS.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
But I think Esteban started eighteenth on the grid okay, yeah,
I can see gny eight places.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, and then finished P ten. So again, both the
HASH drivers were kind of like, I don't know what happened.
We just great job, great job team. So this for HAS,
this was the third time they've had a double points
finish this season.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
They're pretty like, if they can get some qualifying stuff down,
they're a pretty solid midfield team. So it's really the
qualifying that's been yeah, the big struggle for them. Yeah,
I mean Barman was literally the only rookie that didn't
crash in silver Stone, so or like, you know, he's
the only one that didn't DNF.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
So we had another person that qualified really terribly and
started at the back of the Grand Lanched.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh you know what, you got to give him his flowers.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Started from nineteenth on the grid to finish seventh for
Aston mart He did good.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Honestly, I'm gonna be so real. Couldn't tell you anything
that I don't know that they mentioned him the whole time. Nope,
but all I saw I said, wait a minute, twelve places,
I almost want to go and watch. I'm gonna have
to rewatch the thing to be like, wait where it happened.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I need to see his driver highlights from the race
because I'm like, oh, was it all taking advantage of
safety cars?

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Did he make any good passes? Like he was on
mediums for a little while. No, he did a two
stop race. He was on mediums and hard heart. Huh
without a soft? No softs? Him and Alondo didn't have softs.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, So, I mean, I just Lance Stroll is what
we talked about earlier in the season. He's sort of
an anonymous driver to us because a lot of people
just don't They just don't.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Cover Palmer is a certified Lance Stroll hater. And I
loved doralin Palmer, but he is a hater a lot
of people.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
I think their opinion of Lance Stroll is colored by
the fact that he is an EPO baby. His father's
a billionaire, owns the team. The reason Lan Stroll got
in a seat in Formula one and maintains a seat
in Formula one is I mean, you can say it's
because his father owns a team and his father wants
him as a driver. However, I have arguments, however, looking
at his record in his finishes, being able to score points,

(31:27):
He's gotten a podium in his career, Like, he's not
a horrible driver.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
So first off, that's his They're on practically all of them,
besides probably Lewis Hamilton is a NEPO baby. Yes, a
lot of all of them. A lot of them have
connections to this sport. I mean, Max verstefan Is is
arguably probably the best in the world and might be
the best there ever really has been. But he was

(31:54):
raised by his Formula one driver father. His mom also race,
I'm not sure. I mean if she did, it wasn't
Formula one, but I mean his father was a Formula
one driver, teammates with Schumacher. And obviously, yes, jos V
Stappan is not a world champion, but he raised his
son because he knew what it would take to be
a world champion if that's what Max wanted, and he

(32:16):
did it a good job. So it's like that. So
that aside the whole Netbo baby thing with Lance's Yes,
his father's a billionaire. Yes, his father owns that team. However,
you still have to get the points on your super
license to be able to raise a Formula one car,
so he still had to go through feeder series. You
can't just hire somebody off the street with no experience

(32:37):
whatsoever and put them in a ne F one car.
You're literally not legally allowed to do it. So it's like, yes,
he's there because of his dad, but he had to
have something to even get there at all. So Lancetrel
is just funny to pick up. To be honest, Borrow,
I mean, the worst part is everything about him online.
He seems really nice. Yeah, he seems really nice. I'm like,

(33:00):
you know what I'm gonna I'm just gonna be one
of those people online that I'm gonna be the contrarian.
I'm like, you struck your mouth, all right.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
And apparently he's actually really good friends with Esteban Ocon
and Esteban is one of the few Formula one drivers
who is not an EPO baby who came from like
basically similar story, I would think to Lewis Hamilton in
that not the most money and his parents had to

(33:28):
like sell I think his dad sold his was a
regular car mechanic.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Had to sell his business.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
They sold their house and like got an RV and
took them around, like really sacrificed a lot so he
could do this and pursue it as a career. So
but Esteban is apparently good friends with lant Stroll and
likes him a lot, And I'm just like, ah, okay, well,
I mean, I guess he seems nice enough, but I
did fact check. So Max Verstappen's mother, Sophie Marie compan Cumpin,

(34:00):
was a cart She raced carts and she also raced
like regular cars.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
So she was began her career in kart.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Racing and she won the Andrea Margutti Trophy in nineteen
ninety five. Racing in the Karting World Championships. She became
the third woman in history to win a major international
karting title.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
That's really cool.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
So she retired from racing after Max was born, but
then returned to racing in twenty thirteen, competing in the
for Meadow Swift Cup in the Netherlands before suffering a
career ending injury at Sandborn.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh no, yeah, wow, So Matt Max was bred to race, y'all. Literally,
I was like oh you sure. I heard his mom.
I heard his sister carted with him and then she
had stopped or whatever and so but anyway, the NAPA
baby thing, I don't think if you're a Formula one fan,
to be honest, if you're a fan of majority of
the drivers on the grid, most of them are so

(34:58):
we just need to toss the not If you are
fan of Formula one, you don't really get to be
mad at NEPO babies.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Most of them are NEPO babies, all right, Like you
can't judge Lance Stroll for being a NEPO baby if
but then also be like the hugest max ver sapid
fan like it and not take that into account as well.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, it's like, if you want to complain about other
stuff about him, yeah, if you want to just the
net bo baby thing, just drop it. But yeah, so
you know what, big ups to Lance Stroll. You deserve
your flowers. Lance. I don't know how you got up there.
I'm gonna have to go watch the highlights, and I'm
gonna blame the broadcast.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, because they just apparently are Lance Stroll haters and
did not show it. They hardly ever mentioned him unless
he's like ramming into the back end of.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Daniel Riccardo or Ricardo. I will say I was a
hater then, but that's because I am a Daniel Ricardo lover.
So Lance Stroll now leads teammate Fernando Alonso uh thirty
two points to thirty in the Drivers Championship. Alonzo, let's
get it now. I want him on the podium so bad. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
He Alonzo took P eight and race. He has scored
in six of the last seven races.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I love Alonzo. Red Bulls.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yuki Sanda finished in P nine to end a seven
race streak without a point. Thank god. It was Yuki's
first ever points finish at Sindboard. Good job, Uki, Yeah,
we'll take it. I mean, any any point scoring finish
is good at this point for him in the rib Bowl.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yes, And you know it's interesting. I wonder if Yuki
feels more relaxed now because of who the team principle is.
He has a good relationship with him, or it seems
that he has a good relationship with him. They've spoken
like highly of each other. If some of the pressure
has been taken off of like Drolin Palmer talked about
this before where it's like putting so much pressure on
I have to perform or I don't have a seat,

(36:47):
and then basically that's the reason you're not able to
perform because that's so like clouding your brain versus like
you're not a comprehending the cars you should be. So
it makes me wonder if now that Christian Horner is gone,
if there's been a level of relaxation finally hitting Red Bull,
relaxation being like maybe some of that just iciness or
maybe that added pressure may be gone. Now.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Well, there's a you have to balance anytime you're leading
a team or leading people, you have to balance the
amount of pressure or applying to people. And it's different
from person to person. So like there's a certain level
of pressure that you put upon people that motivates them
and it increases their performance. I think Mercedes would be
a good example of that. Yeah, and there's a level

(37:31):
of expectation and you know, there's a good pressure where
it's like I want to live up to this expectation,
I want to contribute to this team. I want to
you know, but then there reaches a certain point. It's
a balancing because it reaches a certain point where if
you apply too much pressure, too much expectation, then it
starts to negatively affect their performance and it's not doing

(37:51):
any good anymore. And there are certain people that put
a lot of pressure on themselves already and they do
not need extra external pressure applied. They need something else
to help support them. It's like, I'm not lacking in
motivation to do well. That's what to me pressure does,
is it is a form of motivation. Yeah, but if

(38:13):
you already have internal pressure that you put on yourself
to do well, then you need something else.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
You need support. You don't need more pressure. I think
McLaren's good at that because you know, Lando has spoken
publicly about how much pressure he puts on himself, and
he's talked about mental health before. And I feel like McLaren,
at least publicly, whenever they've spoken, they've never really it
seems like they just support him, you know, whatever he needs.
If they can help, they do, you know, they kind
of help guide him, or it seems that way. So

(38:40):
I'm like, it just the environment that a team chooses
to cultivate. I'm like, and that might be one of
the main reasons Christian had to go. I don't know,
I mean, but I don't know. I'm happy for Yuki
to be in the point so and I hope that's
someone encouraging for him, encouraging for the team that whatever
direction they've started to go into, because I mean, he
started like twelve or thirteenth, tut to be twelve because

(39:04):
he finished ninth and he getting three places, So I'm like,
so we'll see, hopefully we'll see in Mansa how things go.
Franco Cola Pinto finished P eleven. That's his best so far.
I was very happy for him.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
It was the best finish of the season for this
Alpine chassis by either the Argentine driver or the man
he replaced, Jack Dowan.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
So in this particular car, this is the best finish
that I was I know, I was looking at you
this way because you said chassis and not chassis, so
I was like, it's okay. Tomato, no tomato, tomato, potato,
I don't tomato, potato, carrot, whatever. They're all vegetables and
they're roots.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I don't know, they're root vegetables LIKEXPT potatoes that grow,
tomatoes that grow on vice.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I don't know. You know this metaphor, this isn't sience
class gone off the track?

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Liam Lawson finished p twelve for racing balls and was
the only Red Bull backed.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Car to not score points. That probably really goes one
of his I don't know, Carlo Science and him had
a moment. Yeah, so they both basically deep. Well, the
argument is that Liam didn't leave enough space, but then
Carlos shouldn't have done that anyway, because he has more

(40:16):
of a view of Liam than Liam has of him,
because he's Carlos at the time with a driver behind. Basically,
they both dB and they both had to pit because
they hit each other. Yeah. So yeah, and then Carlos
got a penalty. Oh that was crazy. He was like me,
I got a penalty. What, Oh, I'm talking to them. Yeah,
he went full let me talk to your manager, yes,

(40:37):
And he was not happy after the race.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
His post race interviews, he basically was like, you know,
the FIA always said and the steward say that their
doors open if we ever want to come to them
and talk to them about penalties or decisions that they made.
That He's like, I just got a message that they
don't want to talk to me right now, and I
want to see them and for whatever reason, they don't
want to talk to me.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
So that's frustrating.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
And basically, Carlos said that talking about the actual incident,
he said that, you know, I've done moves like that
with other drivers, knowing that they'll leave a space and
basically and trusting and there's a level of trust and
respect for drivers that you leave the space and stuff
like that. And he basically was like, with this particular driver,

(41:19):
he would never say his name, but like say Liam's name.
They said, with this particular driver, that wasn't the case.
And this is the first time that this has happened.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, I guess on the radio too, he said, it's
always yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Where basically he's like, you know, the with other drivers,
I've done the same move in the same sort of
corner so many times and it's fine. And he's like,
with this particular driver, that's not necessarily the case, and
da da da da. And I'm like, okay, get I
hear what you're saying, but it sounds to me like
what you're saying is that Liam just drove the car
and that he did what drivers do, which is try

(41:53):
to race and not Maybe I don't know how much
I appreciate the argument of like driving respectfully or leaving
a healthy amount of space.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Well, I'm so it's like, for one, you were at
no point in time were you ever ahead of Liam?
Two I under see. I get the argument because when
I'm wrong, that's an argument I would use, yes, and
I have used and probably will use later in my life.
And it's like, yes, those drivers left room, but if

(42:23):
they didn't, were you wrong. That's the thing that it
boils down to, is you were That argument one hundred
percent has probably happened where you did have done a
similar move, but it never came up because you were
left the room to make the moon make the move.
But if that drive, the other driver, any other driver,
wouldn't have left you that room and you would have

(42:44):
hit them, would you have got the penalty. So it's
like we're that's not really an argument because basically you're
saying he didn't leave me room, Well he didn't have to.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
You're saying he didn't get out of my way when
I tried to make a move. Well he's not supposed
to get out of your way.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
No he didn't.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
And it's just he if he's defending or if he
can't see you like, that's not his job, get get
out of your way.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
His job is to grace. And I think to someone
had said that they didn't know that this isn't like
a purposeful thing. How well Carlos had established himself for
Liam to really have spatial awareness of where he was.
There's no universe where Liam's like I'm gonna hit him, yeah,
because that just messes up his race. Obviously he did
was not aware now whether he should have been or not,

(43:27):
probably went into account when they were reviewing it. So
it's just kind of like, I know there have been
multiple people that have complained about Liam, but I also
am just like in this particular instance, I don't really
know that there was I love Carlos. Kind of just
seemed like a hymn thing though.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah. I mean they've made very clear that if the
FIA has in the marshal or not the marshals, sorry,
the stewards, when they're dolling out penalties and reviewing incidents,
they've made it very clear that if you are the
car ahead, you are not at fault. Many instances like
if you are clearly the car ahead, I.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Think there's nances where like don't run someone off the truck.
You know, I think there's there's instances, but in this
one it's like no.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
But in the case if there's a collision, if you
are in the car behind, is your responsibility because you
have more visibility and awareness of the car in front
of you, is your responsibility to not hit the car
in front of you, which low.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Key was really surprised Charles did not get a penalty
for hitting George.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
To be honest, I was like, if they come out
with one, I'm gonna be like, well, I kind of
see it. But they didn't, so thank god.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
So Mercedes driver Kimmy Inintonelli finished sixth on the road,
but dropped down to p sixteen after fifteen seconds of penalties.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yep, I assume from the incident with Charles Leclaire ten
for that. And then he was speaking in the pit
lane five speaking of the pit lane. First of all,
they upped the freaking how fast you can go anyway
in the pit lane? So why y'all speak?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah, Well, there's a button that they literally can push
on the steering wheel. That's the pit lane.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
It may limit it. Maybe when he entered, he could
have entered too fast and didn't hit the button, so
it could have enough, yeah, something he could have been
something like that, but I was like, well that sucks.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah. So they talked to fe TV talked to Total
Wolf after the race, and we're kind of asking his
perspective and about Kimmy's race in general. And you know,
for Kimmy, I would think it's a bit of a
confidence boost because again, he had a series of rough
races where he was not finishing so great and had

(45:39):
some DNFs and so you know, to finish sixth on merit,
you know in the actual race itself has got to
be a good confidence boost. But then he's making mistakes, like,
you know, making a bad judgment call when it comes
to the Charles Lclair incident, which Toto was basically like
it was, you know, driver error. It's like, he's young,
it's a mistake. Herobably shoudn't have gone for that move,

(46:01):
and he's inexperienced.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
And there's no universe he should have went for that, and.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
So he's like, you know, it's just something to learn from.
And you know, we always said that this first season
with Kimmy was not We're not trying to win a championship.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
This season.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
This is a learning season, and we want him to
make mistakes. And he was like, well, we don't want
him to make mistakes, but we want him that if
he's going to make a mistake, make it now this
season so we can learn from it and not repeat
it again next season when we're in you know, his
second season with us.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
So you know, because they asked him.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
You know, the speeding in the pit lane thing, that
is not something you should ever get a penalty for
because there's literally a button on the steering wheel to
limit your speed in the pitlanes.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
You don't get a penalty for that. So, you know what,
it happens more often than people think, though, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
It's one of those things where it's like a it's
a procedural sort of thing where like you have to
almost like with the there's very specific rules about what
you can or cannot do with certain phases of like
the start of a race, oh yeah, yeah, or whatever,
you know, so you kind of have to have some
of those things drilled into you. And the hit button,
the pit lane limitter button, like that's got to be
one of those things that like is automatic. That was

(47:06):
a poor Kimmy, Yeah, so that was that was unfortunate
that he that.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Yeah, it was very unfortunate. We'll get to it, don't worry.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Uh So in p seventeen for Alpine, we had Pierre Ghastly.
He was the last classified finisher for the second consecutive race.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Less. I feel like he was doing okay at the
end of last season, beginning of this season, and then
he's just He's normally the lead Alpine driver, So me
wonder what was going on. Yeah, there's something going on
with him or this car. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
He's just not been doing so hotly, which is unfortunate
because he's a decent driver. Yeah, he should be a
solid driver on a decent midfield team and Alpine has.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Just been sucking lately. Sorry about it. Yeah, not great.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
So looking at our DNFs from this race, we had
three of them we mentioned earlier, So we had Landram
Norris Dina for McLaren. Was his first mechanical retirement since
Brazil twenty twenty two. So landover in the I think
there was maybe twenty or so laps fifteen twenty laps
left in the race.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Maybe was it fewer than that? It was not a lot. Yeah,
from what I recall. I recall it because I mean
it was basically like, oh, was it less than ten?
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I don't remember, but it was toward the end of
the race. He basically reported on the radio that there
was a weird smell and like something was burning and
there was a weird sort of chemical smell and that
was not good. And so it ended up I think
I heard someone say that there was like an oil
leak or something like that that was burning. I don't
know if they found that that was still true after fact,
but basically had a mechanical failure, which they were saying

(48:41):
that a lot of drivers or a lot of teams
take new power units at Manza, which is the next.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Race, yep.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
So, and I assume that they do that because at
this point in the season is about if you haven't
changed your power unit yet, you probably.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Need to Manza. It's also it's the fastest track yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
On the and your power unit will have been worn
down by this point. So a lot of teams strategically
plan to do that. And so he just ended up
having a mechanical failure that was a weak early Yeah,
that was horrible, which he was just he looked so sad.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
I would have been depressed. Yeah, I would have been
so sad. And it's because it's a case of like,
there's nothing you can do. No, it's just bad luck.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
There's nothing that he did or the team did that
caused this problem. It's not like they had a bad strategy.
It's not like he made a mistake. It just happened, yep,
and he was he was on pace to finish second
on that podium, and that just really sucks for him.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yeah, it sucks just but it sucks too because it's
just so many heat, everyone's so critical of him, and
for something like this to happen that's completely out of
his control. It's just like more pressure to an already
like really tense situation. So hopefully he'll bounce back, and
he'll bounce back. We'll see what happens with them. But yeah,
our other two DNFs, though.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
My heart hurt so Charles Leclair, Lewis Hamilton both had dns.
Lewis's DNF was, as we mentioned earlier, caused by he
just had a moment taking the line.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
It was the banking I think I think it was
turned three. Yeah, it's the super bank corner Yeah, it's
like really hot.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
And for those who don't know, banking on the track
just means like imagine a bowl with the slope sides
and then you get to the bottom of the bowl.
Some racetracks have slopes going to either side of the
track so it's at an angle.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
And dan Board is known for having these like really
steep banks. It's basically like a sling shot.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah, and so it normally you would take the outside
line going up into like the top of the bank
and then kind of like tun down to the other side.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah. Normally you'd be trying to take like the apex
of a corner, but with that particular corner, you're just
staying like on the outside and you're just letting it
basically slingshot you out.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, And he was trying to take the line. He
had a little wobble. Some people were saying it was
the paint.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yeah, because it was like it was a little wet.
There had been spots at that point, and so if
it had rained there, they were saying, like the white
pain in particular can be a little more slippery, and
it just he had a wobble and then just ended
up in the barrier. He almost saved it, but then
that tired as clip it was done.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah, he kind of he had a wobble, tried to recover,
but he kind of ran out of road at the
angle he was at and just clipped the barrier and
that was it for him.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
And so it was like, I was, oh, it was
horrible though, because like everything was fine and then all
of a sudden yallow flag and then it cuts to
Lewis's on board and I was like you wha, Yeah, yeah,
that was hard. I was rough, not happy.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, And so then we also obviously had Charles Leclair
for Ferrari his moment with Kimmy clipping him.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Basically, Charles, he was on the line he was supposed
to be at, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
And then Kimmy just made a bad decision about the
line he was taking and just ended up touching his
the same corner, Yeah, same exact corner, ended up touching
his tire and Charles kind of spun out, had a
moment he ripped his whole front nose of the car gone.
He ended up facing backwards in the middle of the
track as William Lawson was right there. Liam Lawson coming

(52:08):
around that corner like uh, and he even said, so
his engineer came on the radio and me it was
like double flag where you are, like double yellow flag.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Where you are.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
And so Liam immediately, you know, starts to slow down
and he was like, oh my god, dude, you just
saved my life because I could not I did not
see him. Like literally, that radio call his engineer made
came just in time.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yeah, like that, and he was like oh. And then
his engineer was like all good, all good. And then
Charles like flung the car in a safer spot, like.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
He had to like whip it to get into the
grass so he wasn't in the middle of the track.
And uh.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Then he was just stuck in the middle of the
track for the entire race. And every photographer known to
man was like, yeah, so, Charles.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Usually the drivers will get out of the car, climb
over the barrier and then they either walk back to
the garage or they'll get a lift from somebody a
golf car or a scooter or something scooter of shame. Yeah,
and uh, but to do that, you have to cross
the barrier to the outside edge of the track. Think
of a donut. You want to be on the outside

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of the donut. Charles went over the closest barrier to him,
which was on the inside of the donut, and then
you could see there was a moment where he was gesturing.
He's talking to one of the marshals on the side
of the track, and then he gestures like across and
points to the other side, and the marshall does like
a gnawfam sort of wave like no, you can't do
that gesture, and so I think Charles was asking if

(53:32):
he could cross back over, and then Marshall was like,
you're stuck here, bro, And so then Charles just had
a chill in the grass for the last twenty laps
of the race. Yeah and uh yeah, So that was
very unfortunate. And then so right right after that incident happened,
and before Charles got out of the car, he sat
on the radio. I don't understand basically why we had

(53:53):
to do that. He wasn't talking about or why that happened.
He wasn't talking about Kimmy hitting him. He was talking
about why we even had to change tires in the
first place, because he said the tires felt good.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Yeah, and so him pitt it.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
If he had just stayed out there, he could have
been fine, but because he pit and exited right ahead
of Kimmy when he did that, than Kimmy than him,
And so there was some conversation after the race where
some people were saying, well, you know, we don't really
have all the facts. We don't know why the team
made the call to change tires at that time. They

(54:27):
have a lot more information than we do watching the race,
so there could have been a bunch of different factors
as to why they would have pitted right then. And
they asked Charles after the race, and Charles was like, look,
that shouldn't be the headline for the story, you know,
me questioning or our strategy. You know that what actually
caused this incident wasn't our strategy call. It was it

(54:48):
was Kimmy making a wrong choice exactly.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
So yeah, so prior to this, Ferrari had a one
finishing record before today, which they did have a double
disqualification in China, but they did finish the race in China. Yeah,
So both Ferraris had finished all races up to this point.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yeah, And Lewis has a five place grid penalty going
into Manza because of an infringement where basically it might
have been during one of the practice sessions, or maybe
it was qualifying. Long story short, it was supposed to
be a double yellow thing when they were coming back
and long Lewis slowed down, but it didn't slow down
enough and so it was infringement on that and five

(55:31):
placed grid penalty. Lewis Hamilton has scored no points in
the last two Grand Prix. What do you Gonna Do?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
This was his first DNF for Ferrari and he has
had one DNF due to an accident in each of
the last five seasons.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Fun facts. Yeah, it's fun for some mone not for you,
not for me or or Lewis. Oh man, that's rough
and that is the end of our effects. Rough.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
It was. It was.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
It was very fun, yeah, I mean at times, other
times it was just depressing.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
It was distressing and depressing when we had our for
our crashouts, and it was depressing and distressing when Lando
Norrish's had his little had to sit on a little hill.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
But it was exciting when Max was like no, yeah,
So there were some there were some great moments in
this race. I think it's a fun track.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
I think that it lends itself to interesting strategy choices
because I feel like there's some there have been some
races where everyone's basically on the same strategy more or less.
I like that this race and even the previous one,
where it's been like a it could be a one stop,
could be a two stop.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Because of Perelli. Yeah, they changed the compounds that they
had before this track because they were like they pretty
much were trying to force a two stop. So yeah,
teams and drivers might hate it, but sorry, it's fun
for us. Yeah, it allows for more interesting things to happen. Yeah,
while that means now that fun facts are over and

(57:06):
we've basically covered everything we can get into our rookie report.
It has been a month. Now we get to cover
our rookies. Okay. So Kimmy Antonelli, he qualified eleventh, He
finished sixteenth, so zero points. Kimmi Antonelli climbed from pete
eleven with an early undercut, but his race fell apart

(57:28):
after contact with Charles Leclair at turn three, which left
him with a puncture and a ten second penalty for
causing a collision and another five second penalty for speeding
in the pit lane, ending what had looked like a
promising run. He apologized and said that the pace was encouraging.
It is now focused on bouncing back at Manza, which
will be his second home race. Isaac Khajar. He qualified

(57:53):
fourth and he finished third, so he got fifteen points.
Hajjar started a career best fourth and drove a flawless
race under heavy pressure, staying with forstappin laid on and
inheriting third when Norris retired to claim his maiden podium.
It was an impressive result given he lost most of
FP two with an engine issue, and afterward he said

(58:16):
it felt incredible to achieve one of his dreams, making
his family in the Red Bull family, and he hopes
to carry the momentum into Manza. Lewis was also really
supportive of him, which I know probably made him really
excited because he's said multiple times Lewis is like his idol,
and so it was cool to see Lewis even though
he had a horrible race. He supported Isaac Franco Colopinto.

(58:38):
He qualified sixteenth and he finished eleventh, but so zero points,
but it is his career best finished so far. Colopinto
took a gamble on soft tires at the start and
used the latter safety cars to climb back through the field,
narrowly missing out on a point after running out of
laps of challenge ocon. He said it was his best
finish of the season so far and felt he drove

(58:59):
well and is taking confidence from the improved performance as
he looks ahead to Manza, the track where he made
his Formula One debut last year with williams Ali Beharman.
He qualified nineteenth from but he started from the pit
lane and he finished sixth so eight points. Woo Bharman

(59:21):
started from the pit lane after changing power unit parts,
but made most of the strategy staying out through the
early safety cars and gaining track position. He fought into
the points, passed Ghasly for seventh and was promoted to
SIS after Antonelli's penalty, calling it a lucky but rewarding
day and praising the team strategy in pace. So you
know have most of the time with a safety car,

(59:42):
you're like, oh, pit, pit, pit, but you could gamble,
you can stay out and it worked out for him.
Gabrielle Bordoletto, he qualified thirteenth, He finished fifteenth, so zero points.
Bordileto's race unraveled after a clutch issue at the start
dropped him to the back and despite recovering towards the points,
he was forced into a late stop that left him
outside of the top ten. He described it as a

(01:00:04):
frustrating day with missed opportunities and some damage from contact,
but congratulated Hjjar on his podium and said that the
focus now shifts to Manza. Liam Lawson he qualified eighth,
He finished twelfth, so no points. Liam was running in
the points at Zandvort before contact with Carlos Science gave
him a puncture and dropped him out of the top ten.

(01:00:25):
He called it a frustrating incident that ruined both of
their races, but was pleased for Hjjar's podium and said
the result shows the car's potential as he turns his
focus to Manza. So I'm sure he had a lot
more he wanted to say, but chose to say that.
So our last and our favorite rookie, Fernando Alonso. He

(01:00:46):
qualified tenth and he finished eighth, so four points. Alonzo
had a tough race after a poor start which left
him stuck in traffic in an ill timed pit stop
between safety cars, dropped him down the order. He recovered
as others stopped and just managed to salvage points, later
saying the car had good pace but that the safety
cars cost him a better result, and once again focusing

(01:01:09):
on Manza coming up. So sounds to me like all
the rookies are basically like it's over now looking ahead.
But yeah, so that wraps up our rookie report and
we can now jump into our best and worst segment.
So driver of the Day I immediately was like Isaac Kajar,

(01:01:30):
but then you made some good points with Oliver Barman.
I'm sticking with Isaac because he got a podium. Yeah,
but it's a lot to be said about Oli Bharman
literally trying for the pit lane and finishing where he did,
so yeahs pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
I would still also go with Isaac Hejar for a
Driver of the day because we know how he got
a podium. He qualified really well, maintained PEO four throughout
the race, and then with Lander Norris having his engine
failure or his engine issue, picked up a podium at
P three, so and he had to do a lot
to qualify that high and then maintain that position.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
So I mentioned missing out on most of FP two,
so it's like, you know, missing out on our practice
sessions bad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Yeah, Whereas with Oliver Barman even he didn't quite know
exactly what happened or how he ended up where he
ended up, but he did, so I think it's a
case of like I don't know enough about how his
race went or the strategy behind it, and in terms
of like how much was intentional on how much was
just luck? Yeah, So for me, driver the day comes

(01:02:32):
down a little bit more. It's not just about the
end result, it's about what was your performance like to
get there. So yeah, I would go Isaac jar for
sure for Driver.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
My biggest let down, I'm gonna go Kimmy Antonelli because
he took out my guy, Charles Leclair and he also
got a fifteen second fifteen seconds of penalties and could
have could have finished P six and ended up finishing P.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Sixteen, So that would be my biggest letdown. I like
that better than just saying Ferrari again because I'm like,
it wasn't really Charles's fault and it was Lewis. Had
a moment with Lewis, It's like I don't think he
let me down as much as it was just like,
well that was weird. Yeah, that doesn't happen. I mean, Kimmy,
let me down. That's a good point, Kimmy, you let

(01:03:21):
us down. Bud. That's all right, you'll bounce back. It'll
be fine. Just please don't hit anymore if you're just
please definitely don't hit any more Fried drivers. Please thank you.
You know what's funny is someone made the point that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Both Charles Leclair and Max Verstappen have been terrorizing George
Russell on the like in races, and then both were
later taken out by Gimmy Antonelli.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
By his teammates. Yeah, and I'm like, you know what,
I'm not saying, it's like there and I was saying,
it's pattern. It's kind of a coincid.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
It's like, you know, if I had a nickel for
every time that happened, i'd have two nickels, which isn't
a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
But it's weird that it's happened more than once. Yeah,
that's true. Well, with that being said, we can look
at this coming weekend our next race teaser. So the
next race will be round sixteen at the Auto Dromo National.
What the hold on? Do we need? It's Manza. But

(01:04:27):
I was gonna say it. I was like, I was like,
how do I said, like an Italian autodromo nahiza, no nazionale,
najonale monza. Is that right? Oh? Wait, are you supposed
to do this? I think I think it's like a
big deal to talk with your hands. If you're Italian.

(01:04:48):
I think you can offend them greatly if you speak
with your hands a certain way. Okay, so are no hands?
No hands? Okay, I'm sorry. So our next race it's
Manza Round sixteen aka the Temple of Speed, also known
as the Italian GP. So our last year's podium was

(01:05:08):
Charles Leclair, which was magical, Oscar Piastre and Lando Norris.
I mean, the pictures from then are still like burned
in my brain. He had the black suit on. It
was at the blackened like the yeah, oh yeah, it's
really good, amazing. So that was where he gambled on
the one stop, I think, and it just worked and
it was great. So here's some stats about Manza. The

(01:05:31):
first GP was in nineteen fifty. It is fifty three
laps long. The circuit length is five point eight kilometers
just about which is about three point six miles. The
race distance is three hundred and big seven kilometers I'm
rounding up, which is about one hundred and ninety point
six miles. The race lap record is held by Rubens

(01:05:57):
Barrichello in two thousand and four, which was a minute
and twenty one point zero four six seconds, And it
has two DRS zones. So the thing with Manza, So
what's the track like? It is Formula one's most iconic
circuit pretty much. It's been on the calendar since nineteen fifty.

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It is known as the Temple of Speed. It's the
fastest track in the sport, with car spending nearly eighty
percent of the lap at full throttle and averaging over
two hundred and sixty kilometers per hour. It's it has
very long straights, heavy breaking zones. It demands low down
four setups, leaving car slippery in the corners but lightning

(01:06:37):
quick on the straight. So it's going to be a
blast to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
So the Manza track is shaped funnily enough like this,
so if you do the hit, it's got like the
DRS zone here, right, It's like, yeah, it go.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
There's a DRS zone here. There's a little bit of
a curve.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
There's another little curve here in this second DRS zone
is here on the thumb of the hand, and then
we go back around here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
So it's just very funny that it's like it Allian,
We're kidding. So now, once again, the biggest question is
always can we overtake? Yes, Manza is one of the
best overtaking tracks on the calendar. Because of its long
straights and heavy breaking zones. Drivers can line up moves
with slip streams and DRS and then attack in the chicaanes.

(01:07:25):
So we should have a very exciting race. I have
said this for a while now, and I'm going to
stick to my guns despite him having a five place
grid penalty. No matter where he qualifies, this is going
to be Lewis Hamilton's race. He's going to be on
the podium. I think he will win, and I'm saying

(01:07:46):
that now. Okay, I've said it and I'm not changing
my mind. You're hard manifesting because I'm likes something special
was going to happen to Lewis Hamilton at Manda because
it literally has to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go for Charles Leclair in this
one because like he won last year here and he
just there's certain tracks, he just comes alive, and I
think some of that has to do with the atmosphere
and the support from the fans. So obviously Monico is
one of those tracks. Manza is another one because like

(01:08:22):
the Ferrari support and fans is very strong here. I
think that he gets a little extra boost from that.
And so yeah, I'm I think Charles Leclair has got
this one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
I think it'll be a Ferrari weekend. But I'm still
sticking with I think that energy. You can hear the crowd,
there's something magical about it, and I'm like, this is
gonna be it. It's gonna be a boy Lewis That's
what I'm calling. Okay, I really hope I'm not wearing
a clown outfit. Should probably get on Amazon order. Oh

(01:09:00):
they's go to Spirit Halloween is that time? But yeah,
so that wraps it up. We are still trying to
find our groove. We're not good at taking time off,
so yeah, we were like, okay, how do we do
this again? We're like what is this? So all right, guys,
let us know who your driver of the day was
your biggest let down in any predictions you have going

(01:09:21):
into the weekend. And we will talk at you after
Lewis Hamilton wins Manza. Byye, it's gonna be Charles Claire.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
We'll see