Ferrari Folds After Pole & McLaren Dominates Again | F1 Hungarian GP Race Review - Why Are You Yelling?

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Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm Anna and I'm Jessica, And this is why are
you yelling? Welcome back to another F one race review.
We are talking about round fourteen or the twenty twenty
five Formula one season, the Lenovo Hungarian Grand Prix at
the Hunger Row Ring, hung.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hungaro Ring, Hungaro Ring. Yep, Okay, you're welcome. We we
made sure to spell it right.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, it's spelled right.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
This time we sat down and we realized we spelled five.
I'm saying it was just her.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I spelled Belgian wrong on our board.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
There was just no l didn't notice. Didn't know this
the whole time. I was editing. I just happened to.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Look over and I was like, said, begin beg and
I was like, that's not right. Listen, nobody's perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Nobody's perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yes, okay, So our race podium was Lando Norris, Oscar
Piastree and our dark horse returned George Russell. He was
just gone for a minute and he has now returned.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, the cooler weather was definitely a bigger factor for
Mercedes doing well because Keimi Intinelli kind of had a
little bounce back and then even Aston Martin. So the
cooler weather cloudiness in Hungary was really good for them.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I think it was that. And they also got rid
of like an upgrade that So I was like, okay
for our constructor stay Aston Martin has jumped from eighth
to sixth and that was the only change, and I'm like, wow,
they're killing it.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, they just had a really good weekend. I mean,
even Lance the double points finish, Even Lance Stroll, like
we talked about in previous episodes that he's sort of
like not a driver. We talk about a lot, but
he quietly is like consistently getting points or finishing up there,
so I mean, yeah, good on good on Aston Mark.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, he did good. So for our drivers standings, the
main three changes we have Fernando Alonso he went from
fifteenth to eleventh, Lance Stroll went from thirteenth to twelfth,
and Gabrielle Bordoleto went from nineteenth to seventeenth. So seeing
some changes in the midfield, yeah, very exciting for them.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, and I know the gap between our first and
second place in the constructors I think it closed. It
was at twenty two points, I believe, and then it
closed down to nine points. Yes, so Oscar is still leading,
but only by nine points.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah. Oscar Piastre has two hundred and eighty four points
and Landon Norris has two hundred and seventy five points. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, so this is looking like it's still gonna be
a race to the finish, you know, in terms of
who's gonna win it out between the two McLaren's. I'm
very interested to see how it's going to play out
the rest at the season.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, it's interesting to see the different strategies, to see
how they're kind of treating each other, to see like
how the or how the garages are treating each other
really like how they're kind of handling that. I'm like,
it's just very interesting.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
You kind of at a certain point, and again we
talked about the last episode, at a certain point, you
kind of have to run your own race, you know,
when you're at.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Certain points you want to work together as a team.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
But then another points, it's just like, it's a great
while of China, we got a divide, and then we're
going to maximize.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
They're so far ahead and the constructors it's not even
a concern. They could literally both wreck and not finish
for like two, like for multiple races, and they're.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, well, Zach Brown was asked about it.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
He did an interview with FE TV and they basically
we're like, they're just asking him about, you know, where
we're at in the championship and you know, letting the
drivers go racing, and if that was still good, if
there would be a point in the season which they
decided that they were asking him, will there be a
point where you tell them not to go racing?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
And he's like, I don't really see that happening.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
He's like, you know, we were so far ahead in
the constructor standings that he's like it's kind of just
if we were to change the way that we go
racing now, it would cause a lot more problems, yeah,
and would alter things in a negative way. And he's like,
there's no point in doing that, so we just let
him go racing.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah. I mean they have they really don't have much
to worry about. So I mean it's no one's even close.
So I mean they have five hundred and fifty nine
points and Ferrari is second with two hundred and sixty.
They are very comfortable at this point.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Okay, my turn. Yeah, so we're gonna jump into our
fun facts.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
So this race saw the closest winning margin in a
green flag finish in twenty twenty five, at zero point
six nine eight seconds oh between like first and second.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah. Yeah, that was intent.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, the whole battle, all the way up until the end,
was a lot for my poor heart, like because normally
the race is like I'm okay throughout most of them.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, but like legitimately.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Was on the edge of my couch like finger like
steeple finger steepled like prayer hands in front of my face,
like like my heart rate was accelerating.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I was like, oh my god, Oh my God, what's
gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (05:31):
You were like texting me to play by play, and
I was like, I already watched it.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, I didn't start the race later, so basically it
was already finished by the time, like hours before I
even started watching it, so she had already seen it.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I was giving your some updates as I was.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, she was letting me know. She's like, this has
just happened. This just happened. I was like, I watched
it earlier.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I know, but I have to share. I had need
an outlet. I have to share it with somebody.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Felt I felt like, I felt like, well, I cannot
I don't know what to say. So I just kept
sell sending the eyeball emoji because this is the safest
bed at this point. I can't be positive. I can't
be negative. I don't want to mislead you because you
were like, oh my god, Charles, and I was like,
oh wait, just wait, fuck, I'm sorry. So I just
was like, eyeballs.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
It was a great race, especially the second half. It
just I mean, nail biter finish. I was sure like
Oscar was gonna get.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Him, and he did not.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
He did not, And then I was like.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh well, okay, I mean no, I guess.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Here it was a little row. Yeah, good, good on Lando.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
So this was McLaren's fourth consecutive one two finish for
only the second time in the team's history. The last
time they accomplished that was with Alan Prost and Ayrton
Senna in nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
That was a fact last time. Mm hm, that's crazy.
Well it was like it was like a different fact
that it was.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Basically it was comparing them to that same driver pairing
in that same year. I think the last stat was
something about like the number of one two finishes for
McLaren in a season that was like the second most.
The current season is the second most they've ever gotten,
and Alan Prost and Ayrton Senna are the most they've

(07:18):
ever had in a single season. So McLaren won their
two hundredth World Championship Grand Prix today, making them only
the second team to do so in F one history
after Ferrari.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Wow. Wow, Yeah, they've been around a minute, I mean
a really long time.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Actually, McLaren is one of the like only a couple
Formula One teams that have had the same name since
they began, because you have is Ferrari, McLaren and I.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
What I say, Williams Williams.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, I think those are the only three that have
retained those names since they began. And I think McLaren
and Ferrari have been around the longest.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I think. So I guess you could say Red Bulls
kept its name, but it's not nearly as old.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, it's well, but they didn't start out as Red Bull.
They bought the Jaguar team. So like when the when
I'm not talking about even like teams acquiring other teams,
I'm like literally when a team was created and brought
into Formula.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
One again would be we'll see if Cadillac keeps its name.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, because I mean everyone else changes either. I mean
you have like Alpine used to be Reno and before
that it was something else. Like they keep changing names.
Sober Jesus Sober has changed names one hundred million times.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
This was McLaren's thirteenth.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Hungarow Ring, Hungaro Ring, Hungaro Ring.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Victory, six more than any other constructor. So McLaren does
well apparently around Hungary. So Lando Norris finished second in
the twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four Hungary Hungarian
Girl Prize, but he won this one, so he and
I want to I think I remember them saying he
typically does really well around Hungary. It's one of his

(09:05):
like he's auspicialist, he's a hungry special. Lando had a
one point nine second pit stop today and it is
the fastest pit stop of the season to date. Previously
it was I believe Ferrari that held the fastest. It
was like two seconds.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, because right now they have that over their garage
or whatever, they're like fastest pit stop.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
So no, I'm like Lando's was on it.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Although Ferrari's two pit stops today, for at least for Charles,
I didn't remember seeing Lewis's, but Charles's two pit stops
they were on it.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
They were like flawless.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I remember Ruth talking about how Ferrari really took the
time on the effort to like get that down, and
I'm like, yeah, I mean you can tell they have
for the most part, pretty decent pit stops, like they're
always kind of on it.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
I feel like the pit stop is one of those
things that.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
You don't realize how much of a like race killer
a bad pit stop can be until you have one.
You know, people just take for granted like a fine
pit stop, but it's like, oh no, no, no, it really
really matters and you got it. I think Red Bull
is a great example of a team that like really
drilled in like executing pit.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Stops perfectly, and it really is like a plus.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
In terms of like I think not just for like
race day itself, but overall team mentality. It's like it
shouldn't be just the driver's chasing perfection. It should be
executing like everything perfectly on a race day. It should
also be like the team mentality of like everyone involved
in the race itself.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, So McLaren finished one, two and Hungary for the
second consecutive season. So last season this was like the
controversial Oscar's first win in Formula One, but it wasn't
really because like Lando had it but then gave it
back and it was a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
It was a whole It was a horrible pit stop
strategy executed by McLaren because it was like Oscar, I
guess had the pace and essentially they just messed up
the pit stops and so Lando ended up in front
of Oscar and they're like Oscar's like what and.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
It felt like it wasn't intentional by McLaren that it
ended up happening that way last year, but it was
definitely intentional this year that they executed the pit stops
in that manner.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well, because like they're not like really working together at
this point. Yeah, so yeah, for sure. So Oscar Pastri
finished second last season. He passed Lando for victory on
lap sixty eight of the Grand Prix, which you know
we talked about very controversial. And Oscar now has eight
wins and eight second place finishes in his F one career. Yeah,

(11:37):
it's like he's like hitting so like he's already beating
other people's like milestones in such a short period of time,
and I'm like, this kind of sucks. I mean, let's say,
great for him, Yeah, but I'm like, you have more
wins than Danny Rick. WHOA, No, he's been out the
favorite Australian Listen.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
It's a perfect storm of a driver with the talent
in the mindset and the right car in the right team.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yes, that's all it is.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
George Russell's P three for Mercedes was his sixth podium
finish of the season. Mercedes Ben's power units locked out
the podium and Hungary for the second year.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
In a row.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Mercedes is there. I mean it are pretty reliable. Yeah,
that really had a lot of problems that don't know.
That's why I was a little concerning what a few
races ago it was like every two seconds there seemed
not every two seconds, but there just was more issues
with their power unit than we were used to seeing.
We're like, oh, they're probably seems fine.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, they figured it out, I guess.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
So with Charles Leclair taking P four for Ferrari, it
meant the polseitter failed to win it in Hungary for
the fifth consecutive year. Leclair has only won one of
his last sixteen starts from pole, and that was Monaco
twenty twenty four. Leclair had only led twenty laps all
season before today.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
These are awful stats.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's how it felt not too long ago, when all
the stats round about Lewis were just like bad and
I'm like, these are just mean.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, Charles bless, let me say something. Saturday was great.
Saturday was a great day. Like I was watching qualifying
and then out of nowhere, Charles gets his poll position.
He didn't even know how it happened. We don't know
how it happened, but it.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Was just great.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I like teared up legitimately, like was so excited. I
started to like my eyes started tearing up, and I
was like, why.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Why am I so muchal?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
What's happening?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
What's epening? I was just so excited. Uh.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
And then I was very optimistic heading into this race.
And the race started and I was like, okay, Charles, same, Okay,
we kept the lead. We kept the lead through the
first lap, and I was I was feeling optimistic, and
even through the first round of pit stops, I was like,
we got this. We had we executed a great pit stop.
He came out ahead of I think it was Piastre
at that point, it was one of McLaren's. Yeah, he

(13:49):
came out ahead after that, and I was like, Okay,
we're sitting pretty were we have a net p one
right now because other people in front of us haven't
pitted yet. And then something happened to his car and
he just like in the second And it wasn't just
us that noticed, because even in the cool down room,
our podium finishers were like, what the hell happened to Charles?

(14:11):
Because he was doing fine? And then all of a sudden, randomly,
he just started slowing down.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
And George Ross was like, and then he tried to
hit me, what the heck.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, So Charles got on the radio at one point
when he was losing all that speed, and uh, he
was complaining, like monologuing.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
He like monologued once. Then he took a break, and
then it got worse and he really just went in
and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
And basically he was trying to say in as coded
of a way as he could on the radio that
he was like, Yo, y'all need to listen to me,
and this wouldn't be happening. And it was either would
have been something to do with the setup on the
car or the strategy. It's one of those two things.
He would have been referred. I think it's got to
be a set up on the car. Yeah, And so

(14:56):
he was complaining about that. And then after after the race,
they took a look at and I guess they debriefed
on what happened and why he lost all that speed,
And basically there was something that happened to the chassis
of the car and that is what affected his speed
so drastically. Andy when he was doing interviews and they
asked him about it. He was like, yeah, so what

(15:17):
I was complaining on the radio about ended up not
actually being the problem. So it was like and they
asked Fred to in an interview after the race, and
Fred was kind of like, you know, he's like, I
need to review it further. But what Charles was complaining
about on the radio was affecting like tense of a second,
you know, it was tense on his time. He was

(15:38):
losing way much more time than that. So the thing
that he was talking about and complaining on the radio
wasn't what was affecting his time because it was a
much more drastic loss of time. But then he was like,
you know, we kind of have to look at it more.
And then Charles did his interview and was like it
was the chassis, So my bad tho.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
One of those things that I'm like, I wonder though,
if they talk and they're like, you gotta go out
there and say this, yeah, it could be you never know,
because uh it would be interesting, yeah it. So I
was like, oh, Charles go, and then that's the second
that the second that Oscars engineer said all right, like

(16:15):
it's time to like pick it up. And then he did.
I was like, oh, shoot, man, like they haven't even
been trying.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, So it was very clear that I want to
say it was around lap seventeen is when the FETV
commentators came over the broadcast and said, so, basically, all
the teams are now figuring out that the degradation of
the tires is within the window that Parelli basically told them.

(16:43):
So it was like they weren't degrading faster or slower.
So they were like, now we can basically commit to
a strategy knowing that the information.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
We have is accurate. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
And so then right around lap seventeen when they were like, oh,
we can commit to our strategies now and we actually
know what the tires are capable of. That's literally when
they said you're going to see people start picking up
the pace.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
They were all holding back.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Almost all of them were just not even trying, like
because they are trying to manage in their kind of
entire management mode at that point because they don't know yeah, yeah, yeah,
and yeah that's when like Oscar really picked up the
speed and like put down the hammer and it was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
God, that happened. I was like, oh, well, yep, okay.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, And it was interesting because again even in the
first you know, fifteen laps, he was he tried to
he was pushing hard the first one or two laps,
and then he way backed off to within a back
three seconds. It was about two and a half to
three seconds. And they're like, oh, no, he's doing that
intentionally because he's trying to get out of the dirty
air of Charles Leclair and so he's maintaining that gap intentionally.

(17:49):
If he wanted to be closer, he would be and
I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yes, he would.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
He's like, oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
So today for Charles was just not a great day.
It started off hopeful, optimistic, and then all went downhill
after the second pit stop. Yeah, it was really like
around like right around halfway around that forty or so,
and then it was I was like, okay, well, we
just have to accept that is we me as a

(18:15):
Charles leclaren for our fans.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Gotta take that one on the chin.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
And now we're gonna focus on Oscar and Lando's battle.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, I got We'll talk about Lewis. I guess in
a second I got really zeroed in on like his
race because I was just like this is not correct.
This is not what should be happening. Everybody knows it
and what is happening, Like why is this happening? But
I'm sure it's gonna bleed into Lewis next.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, uh so.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Fernando Alonso's p five finish was Aston Martin's best result
of the twenty twenty five season. So far, Alonzo has
scored points in thirteen of the last fourteen Hungarian Grand Prix.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I think this was also his first win that he
ever got was at the Angaro Ring because a lot
it's up pair. It was also like ocon's like a
lot of drivers is like their first track, their first win.
I was so happy for Alonso, and uh it was
it was sort of miserable because, like you, we were
watching qualifying and I was like a few minutes behind,
and You're.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Like, oh my god. I was like shut up.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
And then as I got there, I'm like, oh, I
thought he was gonna like be on pole, and then
I thought he'll be on the podium and then they
took it from him. But it was still great. Yeah,
and I'm like more to come. He's gonna get on
that podium. That's what I'm gonna see. This season. I
don't know either. He's he's gonna be on it. I
can't tell you what position, but he's gonna finish. He's
gonna finish. He's gonna get a podium. It's gonna get
a podium, and it's gonna be glorious. Yeah, because I

(19:37):
need to see that.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Uh So.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Gabrielle Bordoletto finished p six for Kicks Souber and this
was his third points finish in the last four Grand Prixs.
It was Sour's best Hungara ring results since Nick had
heat Feld Hidefeld finished third in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Wow, he's been doing really well ever since those upgrades came.
And yeah, I mean he's just been showing off, showing out.
I'm like, good on you.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
So rewind at the beginning of the season when we
were like, Gabrielle board Letto, he's supposed to be a prodigy.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Better, you said, better, get to prodigy, and that's.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
What I said, and he did so he listened. He
must have heard.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I'm like, great for him. Love that.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
So P seven was Lance Stroll for Aston Martin. He
has finished seventh twice in the last three Grand Prixs.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Good on him, Yeah, again.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
We mentioned earlier Linz strolls just quietly just in the
points all the time. Never really talk about him that much,
but he's there. I kind of want him to like
show out a little more, you know. I kinda would
like to see him elbows out, have a moment and
do something to like.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Get people talking.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, just because he's so just kind of like quietly
there just doing his thing.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah. I mean, it would be interesting to see. It's
kind of like, you see him, you go, oh okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
He's just never really showed on the broadcast.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
And I don't know if he I couldn't tell you
if he's making overtakes or making moves or getting elbows
out or really defending well I.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Could I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, I don't either.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I don't know what his driving style is, Like, I
just have no idea.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
No. I feel bad because most of the time whenever
I saw Lance, I feel like he was just hitting somebody,
And then.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I was like, what the what's wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Like, stop hitting Daniel Ricardo and quit blaming him for it.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
So every other time he's been in like headlines or
talked about, it's been for like.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Negative see that's the meaning or he's been injured.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Well, I mean, honestly, they're all kind of a little
I don't know, maybe facetious towards him, because like even
like Joylyn Palmer, like at the Canadian GP, he said
some stuff, but I'm like, leave him, just drop it
all right, like we get it. Like we got it.
That's like what Alice, who was doing one of the
free practice sessions with them, a commentator she normally does
the feflne Academy commentating, she was like, well, I mean,

(21:51):
why would you even like say that basically, And I'm like, exactly,
some thing's just keep to yourself.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
So Liam Lawson's Racing Bulls was the highest finishing Red
Bull owned car with.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
P eight R. I don't like how that was worded.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Well, I mean they got two teams, so he finished
above Matt finished above Max oh my god, and Yuki
and Isaac but Max, oh my god god.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
So uh Liam finished eighth for a second consecutive Grand Prix.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
He' said pretty good.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
So yeah, I think Liam's kind of like starting to
find his footing finally and like settling in kind of
with the team.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
And I mean, good on him. For keeping Max at bay.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
I guess I feel like that's I feel like that's
a good battle.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
That would be a good battle watch like Liam and Max.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh, I mean Liam's gonna get out of the way.
I mean at least, I mean that they were on
the same team, But I don't Liam doesn't come across
at least at this point, because he's still trying to
make sure he's like gonna be a part of this team.
He's not gonna do anything to mess up the guy's race.
Who is going to stay. He is red Bull at
this point, Max is Red Bull. So I'm like, I

(23:08):
think it would be interesting to see if they both
had that like comfortability to fight. Yeah, but I don't
see that happening anytime soon. I feel like he's pretty
much if like if Max is within drs of him
and is like on the ass and he can't overtake him,
and Liam could fight. I don't know that he's gonna
fight that much, not with Max anyway, But I think
it would be good because he mean, his first race,

(23:29):
he was fighting with like Perez or Alonzo. He's fighting
with like these legends, making enemies like his first race
last year.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Well, yeah, when he when he first got into made
the step up to Formula one, and there was a
couple of races he was in where it was like
he was elbows out, like fighting with people.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, and I'm like, where'd that go? Can we get
that back?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Please?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Because that was entertaining at least.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
He said, I just want some points. I just want points,
and I want to stay right here.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I want to stay in by seat.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I want to stay I want my seats, and I'm like, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
So, speaking of Max verstaff In, he finished p nine
for Red Bull and he was one minute twelve seconds
behind the race winner, So that's like almost a full lap.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I think they were doing.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Laps like a lap time around like one minute twenty
seconds or so.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
So, yeah, it was not great for Max this weekend.
It just wasn't it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
He has not finished on the podium in the last
four Grand Prixx.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
But didn't he win the sprint or he's on the
podium in the sport of the sprints.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, but okay, but shut Grand Marix.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
The sprint matters. Se see both of my World Champions
of one sprints, only them alone.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Gimmy Antonelli's P ten finish for Mercedes was only his
second points finished in the last eight Grand Prix. Yeah,
I think that his last scoring thing was in Canada,
got the podium, I believe. So yeah, yeah, So, I
mean I guess he's you know, this will be a
good boost for his confidence. I know he was struggling

(24:58):
quite a bit the last several races, so hopefully this
and the summer break he can kind of have a
reset and come back a little in a better friend
of mine, because he looked real down beaten the last time.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
I remember seeing his his.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Teary eyes in his face the camera in the second
racing Bolts car asak Hegar finished in p.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Eleven.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
His only points in the last five race weekends came
in the Belgium Sprint. So Isaac, he's been qualifying still well.
I think he's still the only person that hasn't that
has made it to Q three every race so far.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, so he's been qualifying fine. Yeah, just the actual
race itself.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
One oh one time one point in time his car
had issues and then there was just Silverstone. I mean
all all the rookies were pretty much out but except Bearman.
So yeah, it's just kind of been a he'll be
I'm not worried about Isaac. I think he's gonna be fine,
just kind of some circumstances maybe out of his control.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Uh So, finishing Pe twelve of Sir Lewis Hamilton for Ferrari,
this was his worst Hungaro Ring result for fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yep. He's literally I think they said there wasn't a
more successful driver at a track than Lewis was here
and I was like, you know, we don't have to
say that.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
This He finished in the same position that he started in.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, I mean there's that. I mean that was so
I mostly just paid attention to Lewis this entire race.
I had the main broadcast on the TV, I on
my iPad, I had his on board, and then I
had like the stats and the sectors and stuff like
that on my phone. And so because I'm looking up
and I can hear the broadcast, but I'm watching Lewis

(26:38):
because I got really into just wanting to watch him
because he had I mean, he was he had pace
is what was kind of annoying, But like how this
particular track is is like it's really hard to overtake.
And then not only that, because he found places to
overtake on, and he was finding success, but then he
got stuck in a DRS train with Isaaca Jar and

(27:00):
Kimmiy Antonelli and it was just it was like there
was just there was like nothing else he could do.
It just got so yeah, it was kind of lame.
I mean, I was really hoping he was gonna get
up in the points and I'm like it just the
tracks that you can't overtake on are annoying. I'm like,

(27:20):
I get that, it's like that track is like you know,
people they like certain race tracks. That's completely fine. But
I'm like, oh my god, I just it sucked. And
then it was then I felt even worse because the
second Charles complained about the car, I was like, god,
because in a way, I'm like, I don't want it
to look like Louis just can't drive, can't drive. And
then I'm like, okay, we'll see what there's an issue here.

(27:44):
He is now sad boy.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Usually Charles is our sad boy, and now it's sad
boy Lewis.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
It sucks that like he could even feel that way
about himself.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
He was so down, like it really was almost like
worse than when he was at the end of his
with Mercedes, because he was also very down on himself
and kind of negative a lot with Mercedes in his
last season there, and this felt almost like worse than that,
like he's like, I'm useless and they just needed for

(28:14):
our needs to get a new driver, because clearly the
car is fine because Charles put it on pole.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
So and I'm sure they discussed later what probably even
led to that once they can like look at the data,
look at how the track was, like he can go
back and see that. I mean, him and Charles both
struggled in Q two and real realistically like there was
a there's a universe where Charles didn't make it out
of Q two with him. So it's like it's the
margins are so thin. It's like, but yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
And then they interviewed him after the race today and
they were kind of like, so, what's the mood today,
because you were kind of, you know, how are you feeling.
You were kind of really down and being a little
hard on yourself yesterday after qualifying, and he was like,
it's the same, I feel exactly the same as yesterday.
And it made me laugh because I'm like, oh my gosh,
he's really like really sad. Yeah, he's And the person

(29:09):
interviewing him was like, you know, I think you're being
really hard on yourself, and I kind of wish you
would go a little easy.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
It's so like, and part of me.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Is like I get feeling that way, but like, you
gotta tell everybody.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
That you think you suck.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I think I Lewis is in this really weird place
where he was supposed to have an eighth title and
it was like out of his control in a way
that it was gone, and it's like still at the restaurant,
you know where, it's like that was supposed to be mine.

(29:44):
I earned it, essentially, and I was just pretty much told, no,
we're gonna manipulate it for entertainment purposes. And it's nothing
against Max whatsoever, but that's just how twenty twenty one
kind of is known for at this point. And if
there wasn't a mistake made, the guy wouldn't have been
fired like a few months later, the director or whatever
or the press whoever made the call. So it's like

(30:04):
he's I feel like he's in this state of like
he performed very well that season and then the regulations
changed and then Mercedes just a straight ass made a
horrible call like this, they didn't have it. And then
but red Bull did you know? And it's like that
was the guy you were battling with, and all of
a sudden, your car is ass, his car is great,

(30:25):
and he's went on to now be a four time
world champion and you're still like and then all of
a sudden, the narrative is like he's washed up, he's this,
he's that, And then he switches teams and I think
you know him and Fred underestimated how it's going to
be changing into the team and then maybe overestimating what

(30:47):
you can help the team with. And it's a I
think it's just a lot and and it's done now,
like you know, you kind of have to just make
it work because it's not like you can just go
home to Mercedes. I mean maybe it could, I don't know,
I don't know how much money all that would be,
but it's just I feel like Lewis, though, is the
type he's going to have a break and hopefully he'll

(31:10):
talk to whoever he needs to talk to, and he's
going to come back like rejuvenated and just needs to
needs to accept this isn't the year. It's it's not
the year.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
You have to I think I think the summer break
would be a good time to readjust goals and expectations.
You know, it's fine to go into the season having
certain goals, but you have to reevaluate a certain point
that you're not on trajectory to meet those goals. But
even then, I'm pretty sure he said that like coming
into the season like this is not going to be
the year, Like it's not.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, but it's one thing to say yeah, and then
one thing to probably really it's like one thing to
say it, and then if it was that year, you're like,
that's right, because you don't want to say it's the year.
And then it like when it really isn't the year,
and you're just like, oh, well, it really isn't. So
I don't know, but he I feel like he'll figure
it out and he'll be positive when he comes back,

(32:01):
I think. And those are just disappointing. Yeah, of course
you wouldn't even know how to handle him.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Of course, a driver like him who's used to winning
and fighting for world titles, you always in the back
of your mind, even if it's not a stated goals.
You want to win always, always, So I think taking
a hard look at the expectations, doing a reset. And
we've talked about this before. I think about like the
definition of success. It's different for different people who are

(32:30):
at different stages in their lives, their careers. So you know,
maybe you know your definition of success used to be
winning races and ultimately winning the championship, but now we
need to redefine what success looks like for us as
a team this year and for him as a driver,
and maybe success for them going the second half of
this season. The second success is scoring points and races.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I mean points wise. Lewis is the only one ask
for Oscar who every race he's scored points, and I
think he needs to. If I'm him and I'm thinking
of what my goal is, I would think my goal
needs to be how to understand and adapt what I
need to adapt, because clearly I can't drive this car
how I want to drive this car. So I need

(33:14):
to make my goal. I need to adapt how to
drive this car more than maybe I anticipated, and understand
why the things that I want this why it's not
doing what I want it to do. How do I
make it do what I want it to do, even
if it's different than how I would normally get to
that point.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
And so well, it's the same for anyone who is
You have your daily car that you drive all the time.
You know how the sensitive the brakes are and how
it reacts, and you can perfectly stop. But as soon
as you get into like your friend's car or your
parent's car, or someone else's car that you're not.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Used to driving, yeah, it takes a minute.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
It takes you know, good fifteen twenty minutes of driving
around in it before you're not like eat, like hitting
the break weird or whatever. Like it takes a little adjusting.
Oh yeah, drive it because you can't. You can't change
the car. There's nothing you physically as the driver can
do to change this car fundamentally in the way.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
That it behaves. So you have to adapt.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, and I mean I think that as well. It's like,
I mean, it's a whole new a whole new steering wheel,
a whole new where the buttons are located where you know,
maybe the Mercedes I would have went to, I would
have made my break bias this going into a corner.
And then the Ferrari responds differently and because it responds differently,
my breake bias needs to be this. So there's so
much that you're almost having to just relearn that. It's

(34:35):
they don't just hit the gas and hit the brake
Formula one. Yeah, all those buttons on that steering wheel
control so much. A lot of that. It's way more.
There's engine modes, there's the battery, there's the break bias.
All of that are things that like they get to
decide when to deploy, when to save up, and how
to adjust it mid race, like their break bias and

(34:55):
through multiple corners on one racetrack or not, it's not
the same and they're constantly adjusting it, and so it's
just it's a lot to learn. I couldn't even imagine
doing it in a car that I thought I understood,
let alone being with a team for thirteen years and
then like having to learn a new team. So I
don't know, but if anyone can do it, it can
be Lewis. He just he'll have some R and R

(35:18):
and then he'll come back and he'll be happy, and
then he's gonna win Manza and it's gonna be fine,
and it's gonna be glorious. Could you imagine, though, I mean,
I think we'd be able to hear Italy from here.
I think we can just go outside. We can hear it.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
So like it's like at certain football stadiums in the
US when they play, oh, what's that one where they
play like inter Sandman is like the and everyone in
the stadium jumps up and down and it registers like
the thing that monitors like tectonic plate ships and earthquakes.
I forget what I think it's called, but it registers
on the scale like they can sense the movement in
the ground because of how many. I'm like, that's what

(35:54):
for the Italy would do. Like to the sound barrier.
I feel like, you're justful it's gonna register.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
It's going to and it's gonna happen. I'm like, Louis
is gonna win Mons. That's all. It's all I know
to say. Okay, it's in my heart and it has
to happen.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Now, it's in my heart.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's in my heart, and I predicted it and it
wasn't a force. I just I was like, yeah, that'll happen,
so I just know it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
So Sauber's Nico Hulkenberg took P. Thirteen and has not
scored at the Hangaro Ring since twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
That wasn't a very fun fact.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
No, that's not fun. That's mean. It's okay, Niko, you
got your podium. But you know what, that's it. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
You've achieved what you needed to.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Like, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
So Alpines, Franco Colapinto finished in P. Seventeen and Pierre
Ghastly finished in P.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Eighteen.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
They were the last two classified finishers finishers in the race.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, Alpines just they're struggling, man, Like.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I mean, Pierre he extracts what can be extracted from
that car, but I mean he can only do so much.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, they just taken a real nose dive. Like toward
the end of last year, it seemed like Pierre was
starting to get somewhere.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
With the car, and then just this season has just
been crap.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I mean there's even moments this season where I'm like, oh, wow,
look at him. There he is. But yeah, I mean
there's the consistency is definitely not there.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
No for sure.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
And their last fun fact, Oliver Berman's DNF for has
was the only retirement in the last two freeze.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yeah, that sucked.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, it seemed like they were saying he was having issues.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
And then the next thing, I know, he's like out
the car in the garage and they're like, oh, yeah,
he's out of the race now, and I'm like wait, literally,
like it felt like seconds.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah. I heard him go this car is broken, and
they were like, yeah it is. And then a few
seconds are they're like, retire the car. And I was like, oh,
that was very fast. Now. Granted, I know, I mean
all those radio messages are delayed. Yeah, so I'm like, oh,
but you know so the biggest things that I thought

(37:52):
was interesting or the things that stuck out to me
was the fact, I mean the frariy pace was just gone,
but I mean we already talked about it, and the
McLaren strategy. I mean, once again, they're just like those two.
The only two they're battling are each other. Even like
when they asked Oscar a question about Charles, he was
just all about Lando.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
He was like, I don't care about Charles.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, He's like, I'm not even like I want to
be literally in my rearview, I don't care. And I
was like, oh, because.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
At that point, I don't know if Oscar was even
he wasn't concerned about winning the race. He was concerned
about finishing in front of Lando to preserve his championship
lead and to extend it. That's what he cared about.
And I'm like, yes, sir, that's that's the championship mentality.
So we talked a little bit earlier about how they were.
Most of the teams were kind of waiting the first
fifteen to twenty laps to see what the tires were

(38:40):
going to do before they kind of like committed to
a strategy or we're trying to more had more of
an idea of what strategy they were going to go with.
And I think it was on like lap and I
made a note because that took some notes. It was
on lap nine that Oscar's engineer asked him if he
thought a one stop was possible, because some of the
competitors were talking about doing one stop, and Oscar was like, bro,

(39:04):
I don't know, it's too early, Like I can't tell you.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
And I'm like, bro, it's been nine laps. Chill out.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, I remember that, and he's like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, I just I understand. Again, I understand that the
driver feedback does play a role in determining the strategy
for the teams, but sometimes I think they are overly
reliant on drivers making a call, not saying that necessarily
happened this time, because there there was a you could
do a one or two and either could work yeah

(39:35):
to win it, So not necessarily saying that that happened
this time. But I have noticed to me it seems
anyway that sometimes they're overly reliant on drivers making a call,
when it's like they just they gotta you need to
tell them what.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
They're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
I mean, I think that's just yes and no, because
I'm like, I feel like, you know, I feel like
MAXIMU know what they want and if they get what
they want, and the way that happens, like they they
make better calls than maybe the team can in them all.
But I think that's just so much experience. But I
think too, I mean, they probably asked because they're like, hey,

(40:14):
are we just like being fed information? So we're trying
like are people trying to get in our head? How
do you actually think the tire? Can you even tell?
Like they're bringing this up already, so like cause they're
even merit to and he's like, I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, I mean, just the it was interesting to see
McLaren both sides of the garage just doing their own thing,
very separate and trying to decide what they were going
to do to under overcut each other and how they
were going to max. Like they were just running their
own races at that point.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, I mean, and that's interesting. Was interesting because they
were very much like they weren't treating each other like, oh, yeah,
we're fighting like you said, we're not. We're racing ourselves.
But I'm treating you like I would treat any other person.
And so that was very interesting, except when they disc
kind of start to battle and then they were like, hey,
remember y'all can go a racing, but don't hit each other.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
They're like, remember how we go racing, and it's like.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
They're like, it's either clean or it ain't happening.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Because Oscar had was gaining and gaining and gaining on Lando,
and then there was one moment where Oscar was thinking
about making the move, but he had a lock up
in the corner and then that's they were like, chill out,
bro he.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Was getting a little desperate.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, he was doing a little much.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Yeah, but uh yeah, I mean it just it's so
hard to overtake on that track that they asked Oscar
about that. They're like, do you think give any more laps,
like do you think you would eventually caught him? Or
they were asking like how much do you think that
that lock up affected your ability to then try to
keep making a move or attacking or whatever, And he
was like, I don't think the lock up really affected it.

(41:43):
He's like, it's one thing to catch up to somebody,
which Oscar did very quickly. He closed the gap super fast. Yeah,
it went from like ten seconds to less than one
very quickly.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
He said, it's one thing to catch up to somebody,
but then to make the move and pass them, it's
a completely different thing. And he's like, I don't even
know if given more laps, if I could have done it.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
It's just so hard to pass on that track.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
See, maybe that that should be a track that's just
like rotated, rotated and spos should be there all the
time every year forever.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
I want track. I want wide tracks that are good
for overtaking. That's what I want.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, it's just m.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
So highlight stuff. I mean, we already talked about Aston
Martin kind of killed it. Somebody who did definitely stood
out to me for a while was Gabrielle Bordoletto. He
defended against Max and he was also behind Alonzo, and
just seeing those three in that like little drs. Train
they had going for a little bit and seeing like
Gabrielle be like, uh huh, I know, like ture Max

(42:46):
for stepping.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
I'm not moving. He's like, but I'm Gabrielle Bordiletto, bitch yep.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
And so that was really entertaining and fun and also
like they're all pretty close with each other, so that
was like really funny too. So yeah, no, I mean,
yeah he was. He was showing why he was put
in Formula one so that I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
He's getting elbows out a little bit, uh, and yeah,
Max was. Max was making moves, he was trying his
hardest to make something happen. He made several overtakes, and
part of that was they're pitting. The when they chose
to pit, they put him out into traffic and so
he was like what is this?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
He goes, why am I out in all the traffic?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah? He's like that was not a good decision. He's like,
what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
No? And then at one point he overtook Lewis, but
it was a weird place to overtake, and he had
it looked like from that particular angle that he basically
ran Lewis off the track, And I immediately knew where
my loyalties lie the second I thought it happened, and
I was like, I am a Lewis Hamilton. Early I
was like, well.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Max, what the happit? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:45):
It was a from that angle during the race, it
looked like that's just what happened.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
It was a very fast corner, if you even want
to call it a full corner, like it was a
he they were going very fast at that point on
the track. Yeah, and he just and was like committed
to his line and was going on the inside and.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
He wasn't like beside him, he wasn't ahead of him,
And I was like what. But then I guess later
on they determined it was fine, but they were investigating
it after the race and apparently Lewis didn't even go.
He like forfeited his right to go because I guess
he either just didn't care at that point at that point,
He's like, it's not gonna make a difference to what
do I hear his race?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah, He's like, it doesn't it doesn't matter, Yeah, which
I kind of like thought, I assume. I mean, there
could have been radio messages. I didn't here because I
didn't actually have his radio pulled up listening. I mean,
they didn't. If he would have said something, they would
have played it for the drama of it, and they didn't. So,
I mean, I feel like Lewis was just more focused
on just trying to get himself in the points. I mean.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
So James Henchcliffe was one of our F one TV
commentators presenters, Yeah he was. He did one other race
earlier this season, but he's been doing busy doing any
car and I guess he had a break from that
and so he, like Caven, joined us at F one
and it was he an interesting point that I kind
of agree with in the post race show where he

(45:05):
was like, He's like, you didn't ask for my opinion,
but I'm gonna give it to you anyway.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
He's like, I.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Think that when we're giving out penalties for for things
that drivers do during your race, that that could potentially
affect safety when it comes to drivers safety and other
people on track. He's like, I think you have to
make the penalties like worth something. So, you know, and

(45:30):
the particular thing they were talking about was they give
a five second penalty to.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Somebody. I forget who.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
It was, and it didn't Gastly get a penalty, but
I don't.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Remember science maybe I don't remember, but and they may
have been talking about the Lewis Max thing, but I
feel like they were talking about specifically a penalty that
had already been given. It was a five second penalty.
Oh it was Charles, That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, So Charles and George Russell had a moment where
Charles was losing speed and George was on you know, basically.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Charles d had the pace and Charles just didn't want
give it.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Yeah, and Charles was kind of desperate at that point
and he made a late lunch and you know, they
George was like moving underbreaking and it was the whole thing.
And so he got a five second penalty for driving radically.
And so James Hinchcliffe made the comment about, you know,
when it comes to driver safety, like the reason you
can't move underbreaking like that is a safety thing, and

(46:27):
so if you're just going to give someone a five
second penalty, he's like, the next car back from Leclair
was I think outside of that five second range.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I think it was like twelve seconds behind him.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
So he's like, you give him a five second penalty,
it doesn't affect anything. So he's like, when it comes
to certain things, like it can't just be a time penalty.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
It needs to be.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
He's like, I think it should be like a good
place penalty or something more.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
That Actually the big argument, yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Means something it affects the result, because then you're really
going to discourage people from doing things that aren't safe.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Well, that was always the big I mean, especially with
how the rules are written currently and how Max interprets
them and uses them, which I mean where it's worked
has kind of been like a five second penalty for
like give going or I think it's normally a ten sec.
Even a ten second penalty in this it's not good enough, yeah,

(47:17):
for like going off track and getting it an advantage,
or running a driver off track, like at this point
in time that those seconds may have mattered a lot
more in previous seasons, But how it is now it
needs to be bigger than that because it's not it's
not mattering, like especially like when Max was killing it
and he could have a five to ten second twenty

(47:38):
second penalty at times and it's gonna affect any.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Because he could out drive the penalty.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah. So it's like if you you need to make
it to where it's almost impossible to outdrive it.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Or it needs to be like you get a penalty
that affects the next race, so you get like a
grid place penalty after qualify and or whatever. Yeah, uh yeah,
I mean I agree, there's certain things that are just
like egregious that it's like you cannot do that, yea,
because people's lives are at state.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I mean I agree, Yeah, I think I think he's right.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
So speaking of people getting injured as a cat jar god, yeah,
he his.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Hand, his poor little hands. Yeah, he had.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
There was a moment in like the opening laps where
some gravel was sprayed and he got some gravel spray
to his left.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Hand and he was like ow.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah, And there were certain points where his hand wasn't
even on his steering wheel because I.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Assume it was just in too much pain.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
It hurt.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah, and then the only other thing I had on
my list was that Hulkomberg got a penalty for moving
in his grid box before the start.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah. And then they were talking about how it could
have been like a slip of the clutch or something,
because it was like because when you look at the video,
I'm like, I mean, it doesn't look it doesn't look
like he was obvious or anything. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
So basically there's a certain point like where you can
still do things as the lights are coming up. So
they were like, when there's only you know, there's basically
that there's five lights that pier.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Like beat beat beat, beat beep, and.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Then when they go out, that's when they can go
that's when the race officially starts. So they were like,
there's certain things you can still do up until like
three of those beat beat beeps, but then you get
to the fourth red light that comes up, you cannot
move it all. Once that fourth light is up, like
your your car cannot even roll in the grid box.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
And so basically they.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Looked at the onboard footage and they said, you can
see there's a spot on the tire.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
You can see where the tire.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Barely like millimeters rotates a little bit in his grid
box and they said that could be because of like
the incline or whatever of.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
That portion of the track.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
They were like, it could have been because of that
the car moved very little, tiny bit, but it.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Is what it is. I'm like, who even there has
to be some automated thing where I'm like, who even
noticed that?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Well, I know they do have sensors on the car
that can tell.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
So I wonder if there was. Yeah, So I'm like
I had to be something like that where it was
a very technical thing because I mean, it wasn't obvious.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
That they or they have competitors that are watching their arm.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
But we would have hurt. Oh yeah yeah yeah, but
I hear complaining or that's true. Yeah, they could have complained.
I was like, leave Nico alone. At that point he
got the penalty and he was like in last place,
and I was like, leave him alone.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
And when they told Nico that he got a penalty
for moving before the start over the radio, he was like,
what are you talking about. He's like, from my end,
I did not move. I don't know what you're talking about.
And then yeah, yeah, he just fractionally rolled forward a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah, I was like, what the heck? Dud okay, that
just leaves the rookie report. So Kimmy Antonelli he qualified fifteenth,
He finished tenth, so one point. Kimmy Antonelli scored a
point in Hungary with a strong drive from fifteenth to tenth,
making it a double points finished for Mercedes. At a

(50:50):
track known for limited overtaking. He managed to work his
way forward and pulled off a forty eight lap stint
on hard tires to hold position late in the race.
The performance marked return to form after recent struggles, helped
by setup changes that restored his confidence in the car.
Isaac Khajar qualified tenth, finished eleventh, so no points. Isaac

(51:12):
Kajar narrowly missed out on points in Hungary after a
tough start dropped him out of the top ten. He
was caught in the midfield on lap one and took
a hit to the hand from gravel. Running a one
stop strategy, he showed strong pace and stayed in the
fight for p ten, but blue flags and the final
laps disrupted his charge. It was a frustrating result, but
the pace was there throughout the weekend. Franco Colopinto qualified fourteenth,

(51:37):
finished eighteenth, so no points. Colopinto had a tough race
as Alpine struggled for pace and strategy. After a solid launch,
he lost ground on the opening lap and was switched
to a two stop strategy with an early pit stop.
Both of his stops had delays, and the second one
dropped him further down the order. Rear grip issues and

(51:57):
time loss to the blue flags added a frustrating afternoon,
leaving Alpine at the bottom of the standings with no points.
Olie Bharman he qualified eleventh. He didn't finish the race
because of a DNF, so no points. Ali's race in
Hungary came to an early end after he picked up
floor damage that forced him to retire. He had started

(52:20):
solidly in the midfield and ran as high as P
ten during the opening stint, but struggled with oversteer throughout
as the car. As the race went on, the handling
worsened and a noticeable drop in performance signaled the damage
that eventually ended his day. It was a disappointing outcome
after a promising qualifying and first slap bomb.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Hey that's my line, I know, Bob.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Oh my bad Gabrielle Bordoletto. He qualified seventh. He finished
sixth so eight points. Heyoh, so we said that he
needed to start prodigying and he has delivered.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
So.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Bordoletto secured his best finish of the season in Hungary
with a strong drive that saw him finish between the
two Aston Martins. He got a clean start, jumped ahead
of Stroll and held off Verstappen in the early stages
with some impressive defending. That early effort allowed him to
commit to a one stop strategy, which paid off as
he managed his pace well to the end. It was
a solid result for both Bordoletto and Kicksalber as they

(53:22):
continued to close in on Aston Martin in the standings.
Liam Lawson he qualified ninth. He finished eighth, so four
points yay. Liam Lawson developed another strong performance in Hungary,
finishing ahead of a two stopping Verstapin. After executing a
well timed one stop strategy. He made a clean getaway

(53:44):
and stayed within the points early on, despite briefly coming
under pressure from Verstapin. The team's call to one stop
proved crucial, allowing Liam to maintain track position and bring
home a solid result. It capped off a consistent run
on form heading into the summer break and finally our
favorite rookie, Fernando Alonso. He qualified fifth, he finished fifth. Yeah,

(54:07):
so that's a bitch excited. I got excited of there.
So ten points, yay. Alonso had a clean and controlled race,
finishing fifth after starting from the same position. He made
a strong start getting ahead of Norris, but didn't fight
too hard when the McLaren came back through a few
laps later. With limited tire options, Aston Martin committed to

(54:30):
a one stop strategy, which worked smoothly as Alonso managed
his pace in track position well. It was a solid,
trouble free drive that delivered valuable points and marked a
clear step forward in performance for the team. So there
goes a rookie report. So I mean, you can see
who's the kind of the consistent ones you see the

(54:51):
more sporadic ones. I'm just got Alonzo's getting points to
be honest.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Now moving on to our best and worst segment. I
don't have a driver of the day. I have like
a team of the day because nobody by themselves impressed
me that much. So I'm going this with Aston Martin Okay,
I think they did really well considering last EXPA was
just not it for them and it was kind of
like looked like a setback. So to see them have

(55:18):
a really good weekend, it's comforting. Hopefully this will continue
the rest of the season. And me and him and
Lancetroll really just did a good job.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
So yeah, my driver of the day is Lando Norris.
He in the opening lap was down lost position, it
was down to p five. Somehow someway, by the grace
of the McLaren gods, he ended up winning the race.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
He did.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
I mean, they made a solid strategy call and it
ended up being the right one. And then you know,
he was able to hold off Oscar, which Oscar was
not taking it easy on him at all, no, and
so I mean he just was able to, you know,
wrap it up with a bow.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, he did a good job. My biggest let down,
I don't think it's a surprise to anybody. It's just
Ferrari in general. It's truthfully so painful it hurts. It's
frustrating when you see two drivers who are clearly super
talented and they're not given a car that showcases that talent.
Like I would say In my opinion, Lewis is the goat.

(56:21):
He's the best driver on the grid, and he's not
able to show people that. Charles I think is one
of the best drivers on the grid, and I think,
you know, we have these moments with him where we
see that that's the case, and then we just see
Ferrari just somehow take it away.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
It's clearly not a driver issue what they have. It's
a team issue. It's the cart whatever it is. And
so I don't know, I mean, once you once you
hire Lewis Hamilton, and you are still having these same
problems that you've pretty much had before, like Carlo's. Yes,
Carlos Signs did great, but Carlos Sience also had issues

(57:05):
at Ferrari. So we can stop with the whole narrative
online of AhR. Y'all really happy with this? Like, listen,
this team is known to just have issues. It had
issues with Vettel, it had issues when Alonzo was on.
It has had issues that have well before Carlos Sience
was ever part of that team. So it's just like,
now you've hired the most successful driver, they decorated driver anyway,

(57:30):
you know, factual best driver in the world, or like
in Formula one history, and you're still having these issues,
so clearly it's you.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Yeah, it's uh.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
When you have so many problems in so many areas
so consistently, it's it's just you cannot you can't expect
to win the World Championship when every single time where
the drivers are putting you in a position to win
it and to win races and to achieve success, every
time the drivers are putting you in that position. Somehow,

(58:00):
some way, either the car messes up, the strategy is wrong, Uh,
something happens with a pit stop, Like there's too many.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Things wrong going wrong.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
In too many different areas that a driver can't do
it on their own, No, they can't, Like the team
needs to figure it out. And like Ferrari fans, we
are known to go through the cycle of it's over,
it's so over, it's like we're never gonna win again.
And then something happens, like Charles getting a surprise poll

(58:32):
and then we're.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Like, we're back. We're so back, baby, We're.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
In it, championship back on, let's go, Orri like and
then now this happens in the race and we're like,
it's over.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
We're so it's so over.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
So it's a vicious cycle that and you know it's
like the highs are truly high because the lows.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Are so yeah. See, I don't like it. I want
to go back to Mercedes.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Let me tell you, I was so excited and happy
on Saturday when when he got the surprise pole that.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
I was moved. I was so excited.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
I was moved to tearing up, not full on crying,
just tearing up. I was so so happy.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
I was happy for him. I was cheezing.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I was like, and then and then this happened in
the race, and yeah, so yeah, So my biggest letdown
was Charles Leclaire's and he's my boy, Charles is my guy,
and it was just such a huge lightdown after the
high of getting the surprise pole.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
So yeah, I'm but you know, I'm gonna stay positive
because I do feel I'm like, you know, I think.
I know Lewis is clearly not happy, but he has
a champion mindset and he just needs some R and
R to get back into that. And if anybody, if
anybody who is currently on the grid right now who

(59:54):
has enough grit and determination to whip this team into shape.
I think it's Lewis Hamilton, so oh yeah, that's where
I'm at with it. All right. Well, our next race
we have three weeks off, so summer break time. But
when we return we will be at Zandvort, the Heineken

(01:00:14):
Dutch GP, so this will be Max's home race that's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
In the Netherlands.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yes, yes, So last year's main race podium was Lando Norris,
Max Verstappen and Charles Leclair. So here are some tracks stats.
The first GP was held in nineteen fifty two. It
is seventy two laps long. The circuit length is four
point two five nine kilometers, which is about two point

(01:00:40):
six miles. The race distance is three hundred and six
point five eight seven kilometers, which is about one hundred
and ninety point five miles. The race lap record is
held by Lewis Hamilton. That was set in twenty twenty
one and that was a minute and eleven point zero
nine seconds and it has two drs zones. So something

(01:01:00):
about zan Vort. It's wild, it's fast, it's super twisty.
It's built right into the sand dune, so the whole
track feels like a rollercoaster. The corners flow one into
the next and there's a ton of elevation change. They've
modernized it a bit like adding some serious banking to
turn one, but it still has that old school no
room for air vibe, so it's a proper it's a

(01:01:23):
driver's track. Drivers like this track and it's always a
fun one for us to watch. Now, the biggest question
is always can we overtake here? Yes, but it can
be challenging due to the fact that it is a
narrow track with high speed corners. Tarzan Corner, a hairpin
at the end of the start finished straight, is known
for overtaking. There are some other areas on the track
that because you can be a little creative with your

(01:01:45):
lines on it, we can see some overtaking there, so
we can you can overtake here, But it's gonna be
creative and full of skill, so I think it'll be fun.
And with this, the girls will also be racing against
F one. Academy will return as well because they've been

(01:02:06):
on break a while, so we'll start that championship back up.
But yeah, so we have three weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Yeah, we'll be We'll still be putting out episodes on
F one related things and topics during that break, so
we'll still be posting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
We're not going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
We're not going anywhere, so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
We're for once not taking a summer hiatus.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, we've done really well. If you whoever's watching now
probably doesn't. They probably weren't following us before. But we
have the ten we have the tendency to just go
on like breaks.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Yeah, on summer hiatuses especially.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
So but yeah, we're we're.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Gonna be putting out some F one stuff in the
next couple of weeks, topical obviously not race reviews because yeah,
it's not another race for quite a while.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
But yeah, so be on look out for those. And
I think that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
That's it, all right, we will talk and well we'll
see you, but race review wise, we'll see you in
three weeks, all right? Bye? Why did I do this? Bye?
Three weeks? Oh? Oh, hold on, okay, so we will
talk at you in three weeks. Bye,

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