In this episode, we break down all the biggest headlines from the 2025 Formula 1 Canadian Grand Prix! We discuss George Russell’s win, Kimi Antonelli’s first career podium, and the dramatic McLaren crash between Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Bitch? All right?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Two? What?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And we're live. I'm Mana and I'm Jessica, and this
is why are you yelling? Welcome back to another F
one race review. Today we're gonna be reviewing and recapping
and analyzing round ten of the twenty twenty five from
the one season, the Pirelli Grand Prix du Canada. Our circuit.
Our track was the circuit. Jill Villeneuve, good job, yay,
(00:55):
I got it, Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I heard it enough this week that I was like, oh,
I did say it right, And I was so paranoid
that I had said it wrong last time, and then
I just heard them say it over and over over.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I wonder if like the like the f one TV
commentators and stuff, and they just have so much practice
saying all the names of the tracks in the circuits
in the cities because they just don't even hesitate. They
just they're spitting out.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And I'm like, okay, I'm like, oh well then, okay, guys,
this is rough. It's hot in here. Yeah, it's not
as hot as it as it was at the other place,
but whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh yeah, we uh moved our studio there was everything
looks a little bit different. You might be able to
tell or not. Like our way, it looks different on
air now. It only took us three days.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
That's actually a record. Yeah, we've moved this set three
times now.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, this is the fastest we've ever done it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yes, so far, Like, I'm really proud of us.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We touched up our walls.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it was phenomenal actually what we got and what
we got done in three days. But we won't for
you with that, yause you don't care, okay. So our
podium was George Russell, Max First Stappen and Kimmy and
to Nelly aayo, I'm so proud of him.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Our little baby, Kimmy.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Say, little baby precious, So our constructor standings. Now we
have McLaren at number one with three hundred and seventy
four points, and now Mercedes is number two with one
hundred and ninety nine points, overtaking Ferrari. Ferrari has dropped
down to third with one hundred and eighty three points.
(02:27):
Red Bull is fourth with one hundred and sixty two points.
Williams is fifth with fifty five points. It goes from
hundreds of points to like half that. Haas is sixth
with twenty eight points. Racing Bulls is seventh with twenty
eight points as well, so they're tied. Aston Martin is
eighth with twenty two points, Kick Salber is ninth with
twenty points, and Alpine is tenth with eleven points.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So so for constructor standings, I would assume that if
you'd have two constructors that are tied in points, they
then go to like the whoever has the most like
first place finishes second place, finishes third, and then it
just keeps going down.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Right I would. I'm assuming it's like this right now,
because whoever reached that number first is whoever had twenty
eight points first. Is what I'm assuming is I.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Know for a fact that for the drivers standings, it's
based on if they're tied exactly, it is based on
who has more first place finishes, and then if they're
tied on that it goes to second place. If the
time that it goes to third place. So I don't
I would. I would think maybe the constructors are similar,
but who knows.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Someone let us know if you know. Put it in
the comments, because I'm curious, if you know, how do
we break ties in constructor standings, like to know who
would get above the other.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Let us know the comments, or maybe maybe I'll research
and come back next time. Maybe we'll see. Oscar Piastre
is still leading the driver's championship and now he has
a little cushion against his teammate Lando Norris because Orlando
got a DNF so.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
He had a little oopsie.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He had an oopsie, so he gained no points and
that has allowed Oscar to just kind of get a
little bit of a gap from him. And yeah, that was.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Very interesting, and now it's time for our friend facts.
The first one is that the Canadian Grand Prix previously
finished under a safety car in nineteen ninety nine and
in twenty fourteen, so apparently, and it did in this
one as all in twenty twenty five, So apparently you
can't finish your race under a safety car.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That would have been nice to know circa twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, I mean it sounds to me like they had
already established you could do that with the year being
nineteen ninety nine and twenty fourteen. Just interesting, good to know.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
George Russell's win was his fourth Grand Prix victory ever,
and he is the fourth different Grand Prix race winner
this season. That was a.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Trend last season where every single time it felt like
we were giving it a we have this many winners,
we have this many winners, and I'm like, ah shit, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
There was a stat last year that, like we they
it was the most like different number of race winners
in the like first I want to say, like half
of the season or something where it was just very
like back and forth different. I want to say, it
was like six or seven different race winners a lot.
So this was mercedes fifth victory in Montreal, but the
(05:20):
first for them by any driver other than Li was
Hamilton and George Russell has now finished on the podium
more times this season than in all of last season.
So he's finished on the podium five times so far
this season, and last season he finished the podium four times.
I feel like it was more for some reason. Yeah,
but I guess not.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I guess not.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
George Russell is the ninth consecutive Canadian Grand Prix winner
from the front row of the grid. Okay, moving on
to Max for staff. In his p two finish for
Red Bull ended history of three consecutive Canadian Grand Prix wins.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So and George Russell yoinked it joinked it away.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Max has reduced his championship deficit to Oscar Pastri down
to forty three points. Red Bull are now four racests
short of Ferrari's all time record of eighty one consecutive
points finishes. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
He's how many away Red Bull?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So Red Bull? He because Max is the only one
I know. I know. Yeah, So Red Bull is now
four races away from Ferrari's all time record of eighty
one consecutive points finishes.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Russell Emberstappen finished one two for the third time, but
it is the first time Russell's been the winner. The
other two times were in Belgium. Twenty twenty one and
Netherlands twenty twenty two. Moving on to our other Mercedes
podium finisher, Kimmy Antonelli in P three becomes the third
youngest podium finisher of all time, behind Max Verstappen and
(06:53):
Lance Stroll. So Kimmy got his first podium at eighteen
years and two hundred and ninety one were days old.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I hate that. I hate any time somebody's like, my
baby's fourteen months old, my baby's one hundred and thirty
six months. I get that for the status matter. So yes, wait,
so how old was Lentz Stroll? I don't even that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Would have been nineteen. The fact that he's even ever
finished on a podium, I'm just like, no, when I
mean the fact that he would he was clearly so
young as well, Yeah, I'm like, oh I did.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I wouldn't have expected it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I need to know this now, hold on, Like, wait
a minute. So this would have been early in his career.
So in twenty seventeen he finished third, becoming the youngest
rookie to achieve a Formula One podium. I guess at
the time, uh maybe at the.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Time land Stroll finished third the twenty seventeen oser Bajan
Grand Prix at the age of eighteen years and two
hundred and thirty nine days, making him the second youngest
driver ever to achieve a podium finish after Max for Steff. So, so
now he is the third, right, al right? Who how
old was.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Kimmy nineteen eighteen and two hundred and ninety.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Four days ninety four?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh? Okay, Yes, kimm is behind maxim plates that was
the third youngest.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay, Yeah, so that's what it was. So he finished
third and twenty seventeen and he was eighteen years old
two hundred and three nine days. H I would not
have I just wouldn't have assumed that stat Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So his first podium he got when he was racing
for Williams, and his other two podiums in twenty twenty
he got as part of a racing point.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Interesting, So Kimmi Inintonelli is the first Italian to finish
on the podium since Jarno truly truly at the two
thousand and nine Japanese Grand Prix. Wow and Mercedes, as
we mentioned, move into these into second in the team's
championship after losing that spot to Ferrari in Spain.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Come on, no man.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Moving on to McLaren, I am Oscar Piastre. He finished
p four for McLaren and marks the end of his
eight race podium finishing streak. So he and he was
one short of McLaren's all time record set by Lewis
Hamilton in two thousand and seven, a finishing on the podium,
So he didn't break it, as allard, he was one short.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Ah well it just wasn't It's just not time for
that to be broken yet.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well he was one short of I think meeting that record,
not breaking it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Ooh even better, Love you, Oscar, but I'm not ready,
not ready.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Oscar extends his championship lead by twenty two points over
teammate Lando Norris. Speaking of mister Norris, the Piastre Norris
collision was a replay the one between then McLaren teammates
Lewis Hamilton and Jensen Button in the twenty eleven Canadian
Grand Prix. Well well, well yeah, history repeats itself. I guess.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, we just watched that clip, which I don't think
I can throw up one here, but we can include
like a length to go show it to you that's
pretty similar.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
It's very identical. Like literally the two of them coming
a lo oongside each other, and then the one in
the back tries to go around this way on the
track and gets kind of squeezed into the barrier towards it,
and then like barely touches the car in front, and
then the whole front wing comes off like.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It looks like almost exactly said, you know what, I wonder,
I wonder what the penalty was for that compared to
what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, what's that?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I need to know that?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Okay, so we're back. We googled.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We had a research break because we're poorn, don't have
anybody to do it for us while we're talking, and we.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Really needed to know. But apparently when Hamilton and Jensen,
I don't know why I said Hamilton last name for
same when Hamilton and Button collided in twenty eleven, Button
did not receive a penalty for that collision, but for
the twenty twenty five rays and the collision between Oscar
and Lando, Lando did get a post race penalty, but
(10:57):
he didn't get points on his slicense.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, he got a five second host race penalty, but yeah,
no point it's interesting. I mean it was. It's so similar.
We'll put the link down there because we can't show
it in here. But it's so identical.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's crazy. Like I was very surprised, the fact the
front wing getting ripped off, just all of it. The
fact that Lewis had to retire the car, but Jensen
went on. He went on to win, but he continued
the race, just like Oscar continued the race. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It doesn't button to win that race.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, city won.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And with the collision in landon Norris's retirement, that means
that he failed to reach the checkered flag for the
first time since Austria last season, which Austria last season
was when he collided with Max or seven.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
With his best friend. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The lore, Yeah, the lore, it writes itself.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Brauh crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So moving on to our Ferrari boys, Charles Leclair took
P five and has beaten teammate Lewis Hamilton in nine
of the last ten Grand Prixs.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
This season, it feels unnecessary to say it feel like
there's one hundred other fun facts. This is not fun.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I thought it was pretty fun.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Did you did? You could have? I thought it was
fun that he got fifth. The rest of it could
have lived without with.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Samilton finished in P. Six and as thus Okay has
thus failed to score a podium finish in the opening
ten races of the season for the first time in
his nineteen seasons and Formula One moving on.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I'm sorry he can't understand what the man on the
radio saying. I can't fast fall. No, it's not whatever, man,
I'm one of those.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Fernando Alonso finished P seven for Aston Martin, which means
he has scored in consecutive races after being pointless for
the first eight Grand Prix of the season.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I don't like how that's worried either. I hate that's
something that multiple, like, that's not the first time that
has been like it is that way, and I'm like,
without points is way better than pointless.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
He is pointless, Like I hate that, but your existence pointless.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I'm like, oh my god, that's so just. But why
after being without points, I feel like that's just as fine,
Like God gets the point, that's fine, just as good,
just just fine. Like say it again, just say that
again and tell me that doesn't sound nuts.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Fernando Alonso's P. Seven for Aston Martin meants he has
scored in consecutive races after being without points in the
first eight Grand Prixs of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Before it was after he was pointless. After being pointless, like, oh,
I was happy about that.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I was like, yay, let's go a lot. So and uh,
I mean, it looks like maybe Aston Martin has turned
a corner or are they It feels like they found
some improvement. I mean, I know Alonso was super like
happy with the car.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I mean, it's he finished seventeen so well. He also was.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Recovering from a hand surgery that he was not wanting
to talk about whatsoever in the media.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I actually felt bad for Lance.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I did too. He he is never that enthusiastic. What
do you participate in the couple of like press conferences
I've seen him in, he generally is very low energy
and gives off like I really don't want to be
here sort of vibe. But I mean in this particular
pre race press conference that they did, it was just
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I mean, people kept asking about his hand, and he
he in the I think, in the politest way possible,
was trying to tell them like it's my medical history,
it's personal and I'm not going to go into detail
about it. Like he was giving them the information, like
the bare information that they needed, and they kept asking
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him like, oh well what like like to go into
detail about, like well, what was the pain like? And
when did you know there was a problem, and oh
what's your recovery been like? And do you have a
plan in play?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It's like basic, Well, they're just trying to figure out
what it is. So they're like, what does the pain
feel like? Because they're like, isn't nerve? Was it a bone?
Was it this? What was it? They're like how long
have you had it? Like what race did he get it?
So then we can go watch his onboards and figure
out what did he do, what the injury could be.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
But it's just so invasive.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's at the point where it's like he had a
hand injury, he has surgery for it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Fuck off, And he did break his hand. I believe.
I believe he broke his hand a couple of years
last season. It was like in a skiing accident or something.
It was before the season started. I think, I don't know,
or maybe it was on a break.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Hold on in quick fact check, Oh it was cycling,
it wasn't skiing. Oh so this was in twenty twenty three. Yeah,
I remember him getting injured. So he fractured both wrists
and broke a toe during a cycling accident, and he
underwent surgery on his right wrist.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Didn't he say though, that he had an injury sense
a certain race though in that press conference that he'd
been having issues with it since a certain point last year.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Well, yeah, he basically it was recurring pain, yeah, which
I mean is not uncommon. Once you break a bone,
even if it heals, it's significantly, like percentage wise, more
prone to injury than it was before it was broken. Yeah,
it's more prone to breaking again. Or there could be
nerve issues. I mean, there's all sorts of things it
could be. I mean you had your your finger thing.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, it's still numb to this day right here. Yeah
you oh yeah, that's right. I had a I might
cut this out, but we'll see. Long story short, my
dog broke my finger by accident when his leash got
wrapped around my finger and then he pulled and it
literally broke my I don't know, camera, this finger like
literally went like this like and just completely broke and
it went to the side the side. Yeah, and so
when it healed though, a bone fragment was constantly poking
(16:32):
because I mean, you can't really get a cast on
your finger.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
No, they can blend it to try and help it
heal straight. But other than that, But I didn't have
health a churan, so I didn't do that at the time. Yeah,
so you could. You can self split, but there's no
guarantee you're going to set it right.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah. So when it healed, I had a bone that
like a little tiny fragment that just I guess healed
like stuck out stuff out and it kept hitting this nerve.
So I had to have hand surgery and they shaved
it off. But to this day now it's numb, but
it felt a lot better. I mean I could literally
just touch it two hard. Now it scream because do
you have a scar on your finger.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, but yeah, but that's just to show that like injuries,
it's not just like a quick fix. And especially when
you break things, it's like you can have recurring problems
after the fact. I mean it could be like a
he broke his hand and they did surgery to correct it,
and it could be that if they used any sort
of pins to set the bones in place, because there's
so many bones in the hand that it's actually one
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of the more complex things that if you break it,
it's a little more complex to try and treat it
and heal it. So I mean, they could have used
pins to set some things in there and to attach things.
So a pin could be rubbing up on something. I mean,
it could be, like you said, nerves, pinching or rubbing.
It could be any sort of thing. But the amount
of questions that they kept asking, and especially there was
(17:43):
one guy it was one of like the more prominent
TV journalists. I forget who it was either, it wasn't Crafty.
Who's the other one, Brundle, it was one of them.
I think Brundle is a yeah, it was one of
those two that asked the question, I think, But they
basic Lance had already asked or answered several questions about
(18:04):
his hand injury at that point, and this particular journalist,
when they open the floor up to questions, he asked Lance.
He was like, so, Lance, I've noticed that you kept
your right hand, the one that was injured. I noticed
you kept your right hand in your pocket the whole time,
and you haven't taken it out during this whole like, like, look,
because he had it in his pocket and was holding
the microphone was left hand, and he was asking him like,
(18:26):
is there is it? Because that it's injured, you're not
wanting to show us, Like what's kind of going on
with that? And then Lance is like.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I'm fucking sitting here with my hand in my pocket.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Lance takes a second, he takes a beat to answer,
and you can kind of almost see on his face
that he's kind of like what the fuck kind of questions.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
That are you afraid to show us your hand? Fuck off?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And then and then I have so much respect for
Lance Stroll because he didn't remove his hand from his
pocket even then.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, because I'm like they some people don't have to.
I'm somebody who fidgets a lot. Some people don't jealous.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
But I was just like, because the easy thing to do,
or maybe not the easy thing, but the acquiescing sort
of thing to do is when your challenged like that
would be to take your hand out of your pocket
and be like, look where you're making a big deal
on nothing. But I like the fact that he didn't
remove his hand from his pocket, and he was like, no,
I'm not going to give you the satisfaction. Like they
were just being so invasive and so many questions, and
(19:20):
eventually got to the point where he another journalist asked
a question about it, and he basically he literally said, well,
I already answered this earlier, but I'll say it again,
and like he summarized, like I had old hand injury.
It started bothering me a couple of races ago. The
pain got to the point where I couldn't basically stand
(19:41):
it anymore. I went and had surgery. They fixed the problem.
I'm good now. And that's so weird, and because then
they were still asking like, oh, do you think it's
going to be recurring? Do you have any reason to
think that the pain will come back or that the
injury will come back, and all, like just so many questions,
and I was like, can you leave him alone?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I literally what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I felt so bad for him. I'm like, I it
just got to the point where it was just super invasive.
And again I understand that journalists, like their job is
to ask the questions and it's on the driver to
answer or not answer the questions as they see fit,
and they don't have to answer questions they don't want to. Yeah,
they can just say no comment and move on. But
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there's a time and a place, and well.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's like how many times I guess I just I
just don't see why keep asking the same exact thing
over and over again.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Because you think at some point they'll get frustrated and
answer the question. And I'm like, just to get people
to stop asking.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I'm just I just wouldn't say anything. No, it's gonna
be silent. I'm literally like if I just like at
that point of the questions too, but I'm just gonna
be silent, stare at you until you get the picture
to move on, m just because I'm like, I want
to make you uncomfortable as uncomfortable as you were trying
to make me with that question.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I would just say move on.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I would be like, are you sure is that here?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I would say a common response when people when you
keep getting the same quietquestion, especially in a conference setting,
is asked and answered. My question has been asked and
has already been answered.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
An answered that's centswered next, So cunty. I love that.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Uh huh. I'm like we got to get a little
more cunty Lance. Come on now, yeah, be get in
your count era. Back to our fun facts kicks. Auber's
Nico Hulkenberg finished in the top eight for the third
time this season. Why to go, Hulk, Let's go, the
first Sober driver to score in consecutive Racist since valtri
Botas in twenty twenty two when he scored in Mexico
(21:32):
and South Halo. That's exciting about Ocan finished P nine
and he scored Haas's best ever Montreal race, finished in
the team's two hundredth Grand Prix. Wow fun stuff, and
it was o'conn's fourth Grand Prix points finish of the season.
Carlos Signs finished P ten for Williams, scoring points for
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the fifth time in the last six Grand Prixs, and
Alex Alban failed to finish, meaning Kentucky retirements for him
in Spain. In Canada, Alex, my guy, we started so strong.
What's happening?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That was? That whole thing with Colopinto was weird. I'm like,
where were you going? Oh yeah, yeah, I'm like when
he like then his car became like a lawnmower and
god like to see how it bounced.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. Yeah. Oh yeah,
because at the start of the race we were talking
about how Colopinto was kind of like getting his elbows
out and being a little aggressive. And then Alex so Alex, Yeah,
he was the he like, but he went flying.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
He was never making that corner. I don't know what
he was doing. Yeah, that was nuts.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, and then I remember Alex eventually kind of just
pulling off into like a runoff aregain.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I would assume something from that had done something to
the car problem time. I mean that because it was rough.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Uh. And then our last fun fact, Liam Watson's retirement
was his third of the season four racing Bulls.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I think Daniel Ricardo has just cursed the red Bull
seat and he's cursed that seat next. Yeah, And the
only way to meant to make better of this is
to heal is to just bring him back. That's what
I mean. That's the only way to cleanse the curse.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You need it like burst some stage.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Really that's enough, it's not enough, Well, then it's a
powerful curse.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
That was the end of our effects.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Wow, this was not this. I feel like this weekend
had so much drama going into it already. The first
so like the first drama was the Max and his
penalty and hit the points on his license, and basically,
if you're not aware he can, Max has one more
point he can get. If he gets one more point
on his license, he's going to be suspended for a race. Basically,
So that was a whole thing because he got three
(23:39):
points put on his license. After the issue like that
collision with George Russell, everybody kept talking about that. Max
was getting so fed up with the entire thing. He
was like, we get it. Thanks, Like every journalist that
could ask Max about that pretty much did, to the
point that he was so fed up he was over it.
But the thing that really like surprised me because so
we've been hearing about that, I feel like everybody was
aware of that. I'm watching the weekend warm up on Thursday,
(24:03):
and all of a sudden, like Laura Winter is asking,
how do you say his name Davide? Davide is, how
do you say it's Avali? I was gonna say avals Seqi,
but I couldn't. Okay, she was asking him about the
Italian media, and because basically two very prominent news outlets
have We're talking about Fred and how they might be
getting rid of him, and how Ferrari is super dissatisfied
(24:23):
and talked about Louis talked about Charles and was just
super crazy and I had no clue about it. I
hadn't seen any of this one Instagram, hadn't seen any
of this on like threads. I'd seen it nowhere, so
I'm like, what the fuck? And at this point in time,
they were second in the Constructors and so that was
just crazy. And then Louis was asked about that in
the FIA press conference where before the weekend starts, because
(24:45):
they have two separate ones with three different drivers in
each one, and anyway, they asked Louis about it, and
basically Lewis pretty much said, I'm here because of Fred.
I don't support any decision to get rid of Fred.
And I felt like the implication was basically saying, I
don't know if I'll be here if there's no Fred.
That was sort of how I got it. It felt
very like, no nonsense, I don't know what this is about.
(25:09):
This whole narrative is ridiculous. Charles had briefly talked about
it as well. I think it was just and then
Fred was like, what the fuck hello.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, I mean, Charles and Lewis both have a really
great relationship with Fred. They've openly talked about several times.
They both were I mean, Charles started off with Fred
as his team principal when he was at Alfa Romeo
formerly Alfa Romeo. I mean, and Lewis has worked with
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Fred before so and they both really like him, and
they were excited when he was brought on to Ferrari. So,
I mean with Ferrari, they've I mean, and Fred even
made this comment where you know, Ferrari has tried changing
team principles, they've tried changing drivers, they've tried changing engineers
and still not working. So and he said there's only
(25:59):
one thing that have changed yet and he didn't say
what it was, but the uh implication is that it's
like the leadership at Ferrari. It's higher up that hasn't
been changed.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Shit. Yeah. That So that was just really weird going
into the weekend because now all of a sudden, I
felt cause I kind of just felt like, Okay, it's whatever,
and then all of a sudden, now all lies are
on Ferrari and then what was uh when Laura had
basically asked Daviday like, so you know they're saying this
is nonsense. What do you say? Because he's Italian and
(26:32):
he had like it was this might sound odd, but
he seemed like concerned. It was basically like, I think
they just need to concentrate on doing well because if
you have basically those two outlets are saying something, where
do they get that info from?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Especially if they're prominent, well respected outlet.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
The implication was he and he's like, I'm no, like
great journalist, but what I'm inferring is somebody's talking from Ferrari.
That was like I was, I don't know. That was
just super bizarre.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It would and it would have to be somebody in
the know, somebody high up up, high up up that
they would be part of those conversations.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That and also somebody that those either of those outlets
would have quoted basically like they would. It'd have to
be somebody for both of them to basically run a
big story on like they would have to know that
this person is giving them legitimate information. It's not just
some nobody at Ferrari saying yeah, So I'm like, but.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Then why would that person leak that information?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I don't know helet Marco talks a lot. Do they
have a was it helt Marco?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Who was that? I'm like, there's a conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I don't know. That's insane. So that was just a
really so then they kind of all eyes were sort
of on Ferrari again and.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I just can't even deal with it.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
So basically, if you watch the race, then you probably
saw and we talked about it a few minutes ago
Lando crashed himself, which was why it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Was so exciting because they were the build up to
this moment. It's been building up all season because we
keep chopping at the bit. We want to see McLaren fight,
we want to see the battle, right, and then this
race we've got it's like a like the Jaws, and
he was like, Dona Dona, Dona dona. Like it was
(28:28):
just there was a build up of like, I mean,
let me set this scene for you. Oh, we've got
we've got Kimmy anton Ally in p.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Three.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We've got Oscar behind him in p. Four getting within
a DRS range. We've got Lando Norris in p. Five.
He's in DRS range. He's not. He's in DRS range
he's not. He's getting closer to Lando or he's getting
closer to Oscar, and then it's like, oh, now they're
both within We've got many drs trained between the three
of them, and you've got Kimmy Antonelly holding on to
P three and he's got the pressure of the McLaren's
(28:58):
bearer like bearing down on him, and he he's got
to defend against them both right, and then we're like,
oh my god, what's gonna happen? We like, Lando's gotta
speed up if he wants to try to overtake Oscar,
and Oscar's under pressure from Lando and he's got to
speed up, and he's got to try and make a
move on Kimmy, but also defend against Lando and make
your moment like make it, make it count, and pick
the right woman. And then all of a sudden we
get side by side, taking the turns, taking the corners,
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and then it's like a back and forth and like
a Lando overtakes, but then Oscar gets back in front
of him and tries to keep it. And then at
one point they're kind of side by side and both
of them are within dr rest range of Kimmy Antonelli,
and we're like, oh my god, what's gonna happen, and
then we hit a corner. Lando tries to go around
and gets he really didn't have anywhere to go. He's
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not that he even didn't even get really squeezed by Oscar.
Oscar just took the line that I think anybody would
have taken. And then Lando just gets too close to him.
Like it wasn't that he ran out of road, he
just got a little too close and then barely tapped
the back of him with it in his whole front
wing ripped off and he like went into the barrier
and was able, fortunately to go into the grass, and
(30:02):
the barrier kind of helped anything worse from happening. Yeah,
but it was just it was rough. But to Lando's credit,
he immediately got on the radio and was like, my bad,
that was my fault completely, like just stupid mistake. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, Basically he had said he had like he had
already like anticipated, mind you, this is all this all
happened so fast for them, right, But basically I guess
from my understanding from what I was listening to him
talk and intended for other people talk, I guess he
basically assumed Oscar was gonna I guess he had been
taking a particular line the whole time, and Lando had
(30:38):
just assumed that's the same line he's gonna take. Oscar
went a little bit wider, and that's what happened. But again,
that's not it's not Oscar's responsibility to help Lando decide
what line he's gonna pick all Land, because he's Oscar's
in front, he can decide what he wants to do.
So yeah, it was just insane, and it was. It's
annoying because like I've I feel for Orlando because I'm like,
(31:04):
he was the better like outside of that obviously where
people will be like, well, if he with the better driver,
he wouldn't erect. I'm saying when it comes to pace,
he was faster.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I mean, but that's been a consistent track.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yes, And I'm just like, ye, don't I hope he's
not online right now, Just don't get online.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I mean, he seems to have been coping the last
several you know, I think he said he wasn't online. Yeah,
he said he's been seems he's been coping better with
making mistakes or you know that whole thing, and so
I think he I think he'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I think a lot of it comes down to, like,
if Max makes a mistake, I don't think Max then
has a crisis of like I suck as much as
he's like, I made a mistake. It as what it is,
and it doesn't mean that I'm a trash driver. It
just means I made the wrong choice in that moment.
And I think that can be a difficult mindset for
certain people to grasp when they allow a lot of
other people to They're looking for outside validation for their
(32:00):
side worth of themselves. And maybe Lando's finally outside of
that and can have some confidence in himself because I
feel like half of it's a confidence issue or like
I don't know, And again, I actually really don't know
a lot about Lando's career before Formula One, So I
don't know a lot about like his Feeder series career
and to see was he somebody who was battling a lot,
(32:21):
like did he have a lot of you know, on
track battles like that, Like I don't know, And some
of that I'm like, is that is that lack of experience?
In any way, I don't know about a lot about
Lando's driving style, to be honest, So I'm not sure
it makes me curious to know is the reason he's
struggling so bad because he literally doesn't have any experience battling, Like,
(32:41):
I don't know, m M, it's just rough. But then
if I'm kimming Antonelli, I'm like poosh out for real.
He was like, thank god.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, so Lando making that mistake ultimately cost him his race,
and it cost Oscar because Oscar did get tapped and
it slowed him down some but he didn't really have
any damage, but it did cause the yellow flag and
safe yellow flag and safety car to come out. Uh,
and it cost Oscar the chance to fight for a podium.
(33:10):
So he at that point, the races finished under the
safety car.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Which amazingly it can do. Wow. So during the safety car,
George Russell is first in Max's second. You know, they're
trying to keep their tires alive, do all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
In case they somehow restarted did a rolling restart of
the race, which they didn't but and.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
So then all of a sudden, George Russell like slams
on his brakes. The safety car is so far ahead
of him, and then Max it gets ahead of Org
for a second before he slams on his brakes he's
not allowed to pass George. Yeah, So then Max is like,
George just slam on his brakes, and then George Russell
over his radio simultaneously is like, Max just passed me.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
He just overtook me, and you're not allowed to do
and is a penalty.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And would probably be another point. I'm assuming I actually
don't know the rules to that, but I'm just like,
so when I saw that, I just thought that's kind
of gross because it definitely was intentional, Like I don't know,
and then what was it at the start of the
race or earlier in the day, George had said he
has a few penalty points to play with, so we'll
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see how the race goes or something like that. So
I'm like, and I know everybody was poking fun at
Mats with the penalty or with the points on his
license thing, and I'm just like, but that whole situation,
I don't know. That just feels kind of gross when
you know someone's like a point away from being suspended
you do something and do something like that, because that's
like clearly intentional and kind of malicious. So I'm like, hmmm,
(34:41):
I wonder if that's good for the children. I like
how that's associated with George Russell now as well, that
like because of that one thing he said last season
that anytime something happens, it's like what about the kids, George,
because he had said that. But anyway, so I thought
that was kind of gross. But then something that I
thought was so I kept seeing this online as well,
(35:03):
was so like we said, Lando got a penalty after
the race, like a five second post race penalty for
his collision with Oscar, and but no points on his
license and versus Max got three points on his license
when he hit George Russell and Barcelona, and people were
saying the British bias and like, well why didn't Lando
(35:24):
get a point on his license or because he did
cause a collision. Well, I don't think they're comparable. I
don't think they're the same whatsoever. And I mean, this
is just my opinion. First of all, Lando finished, I'm sorry,
Oscar finished the race. He finished, He's fine. Lando has
ruined his own race. Did he have contact with Oscar? Yes,
(35:46):
but he only really ruined himself. That being said, even
though we obviously obviously cannot say with one hundred percent
certainty that Max hit George on purpose, I feel like
it's everyone's assuming that and we're all leaning that way
that he pit George on purpose. I think it had
more to do with the intent and the unsportsmanship like
(36:08):
thing of like Leno didn't mean to hit Oscar.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
It leans more toward a racing incident.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yes, that's that's what I'm like. That leans more towards
a racing incident versus Max hit George.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, I would have to see what the I don't
know the rule, the exact rules are and the appropriate
penalties that can be given, because I know certain factors
do come into play when you're deciding which penalties to
award and if points on a license or fines are
appropriate or not. And it's all dictated by the rules,
(36:41):
but also by the stewart's discretion. Yeah, because they are
given some leeway in certain instances where if they want to,
they can, but they don't have to. And I think
that I know a lot of times the steward's in
f one will the kind of part line is like
(37:01):
there was the It's like the results of the infraction,
like the results of what happened are not what determined
if a penalty is a warded or not. It's like
breaking the rule. It's not the result of breaking the rule,
it's just breaking the rule in general, which so you know,
sometimes it can be like, oh, somebody exceeded track limits
and then they got a penalty for that, but it
(37:24):
but some people might argue, oh, well, they exceeded track limits,
but they didn't gain an advantage, so why would you
They shouldn't get a penalty for it in certain cases,
And it's like, no, no, no, that's not the rule. The
rule is if you do this, this is what you happens.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
If it's the result, which is not probably why a
lot of drivers wanted more gravel traps anyway, They're like,
just give us those.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I don't even like that penalizes you automatically.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, like we'd rather do that than have track limits
to the point that are so sensitive that it's like,
did you really gain an advantage? But no, So I
just am like I don't necessarily. I mean, I don't
know the rule book by any means. I'm not gonna
sit here like I'm some expert. But if I if
I were just look at the those two instances, I
don't really find I don't see them. I don't think
they're very similar. Besides, two cars touched max Is. As
(38:10):
much as I'm like it was what it was, I
still stand by I don't think I think the whole
people trying to categorize what he did as you think
his car is a weapon is insane. But what he
did was, if intentional, was very It was bad sportsmanship
and it's just not how you should act as a driver,
no matter how angry you are, because it could have
been dangerous, and I mean it wasn't. And Max is
(38:31):
obviously the best driver on the grid and can knows
how to drive. His is probably the safest driver, but
he knows the limbs of his cars that I'm trying
to say, and so I'm like, but it's still he
couldn't have. He really couldn't. It turned out fine, but
in reality, he couldn't. Didn't know with one hundred percent
certainty how George would react in that moment, and what
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Georgia's car, how that could have reacted in that moment,
So it could have been something that dangerous that happened.
Luckily it didn't. So I'm like, yeah, points on the
license for that. As much as I like, Max seemed appropriate,
but I don't see I don't see how it's I
don't feel like we're comparing apples to apples with those
two scenarios. It just feels like the next thing that
people are somehow it's Land And that's the other thing too.
(39:14):
It's almost like somehow it's Lando's fault that he didn't
get points on his license, you know, like the next
narrative for people to hate on Lando with. And I'm like,
I don't even think they're really comparable. Like those two instances,
whether or not you think what Max did was right
or wrong or you don't care, I don't think they're
remotely the same thing.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, it's like, why are you getting mad at the
drivers for the British bias that you perceive the FIA
or for f one or the media to have. Like,
it's not the driver's fault that this British bias exists,
if it does exist.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I'm also like the British bias where I'm like, first
of all, who are the Stewards? Don't don't they tell
you who they are? Couldn't we go find that?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Well?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
They're different at every right now, I'm saying, but like
don't they Like I wonder if you can do anyway.
I don't know. I just am like, hmmm, I don't know.
That just felt kind of like a weird talking point
after the race where I'm like, I don't know that
they're comparable though, So that was sort of I mean,
the Kimmy getting his first podium was fun. That was
super cute. It was like watching too, like on the
(40:11):
watching the podium, watching like Max and George and Kimmy.
It was like watching two divorced parents be happy for
their kid. And so that was funny because they're like
being polite to each other back You're like you hate,
It's like I'm gonna fuck you.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I like that Max just dumped it all down. George's
like the back of his suit, like all in his
mac and then George's just like mm hmm, okay, He's
like faints, buddy, appreciate. Yeah. But I did see where
I did see where Kimmy like talked about his relationship
with Bono, and Kimmy's like, look, I'm a really affectionate person,
(40:46):
which I mean him being Italian, it makes sense, he's
very like physically affectionate, like hugs, kisses on the cheeks
like yeah, and he's like Bono is not, and so
it's taken some time for him to like for us
to gel you know, and for him to be comfortable
with me giving him a hug because he didn't give
him a hug after he got his podium and stuff
like that, which is like super cute, but like it's
(41:08):
funny because like you see that picture that's like really
well known now with like Toto has his arm around Kimmy,
like and Kimmy's just like holding on a Toto and
they're just like watching the whatever's on the screen together. Yeah,
and it's like he's like holding his child and You're
like and it's like that's the kind of like affection
that Kimmy was like, Bno's like not like that at all.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
I was like, I'm he's so funny. That is really funny.
The only other thing that I saw was, I know,
red Bull, I guess protested Mercedes after the race and there,
but nothing came of it.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah. Basically my understanding is that, uh, they called Georgian
and asked him to kind of explain and his side
of it, and basically George it was able to explain
point by point how like what he did was actually
by the rules, and after the stewards took into consideration
that and they you watch on board footage, they're like, yeah, no,
he was doing what he was supposed to do. And uh,
(42:04):
because George is basically like, well, I'm trying to keep
the delta between me and the safety car. He's like,
at one point, he's like, I needed to slow down.
And because apparently at one point he gives like a
speed up sort of gesture, like trying to like, you know,
hype when you're like, come on now to the safety
car because it was going too slow. Uh. And at
one point George said that he went to slow down,
(42:25):
but you can see him checking his mirror to and
like beside him to make sure Max isn't directly behind
him before he hits his brakes and slows down. And
it's not his responsibility to even like keep track or
make sure of where like Max is, like, it's Max's
job keep the delta in position behind George. So but
basically he just gave all these reasons point by point,
(42:47):
but like what he did was by the rules, and
he wasn't like break checking Max or trying to catch
him out. I mean, fair enough, the Steward's agreed with him,
and so, yeah, it is what.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
It is, is what it is. Yeah, that was pretty
much that so, and I guess they asked Toto about
it during the f one red carpet premiere the movie
premiere in New York and then Toto's like, it's gross.
They waited so long to do it. Afterwards and like
they were all he was just you know, you know
how they are, you know, him and Christian, they're.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Like they're little terriers or one of them. What did
they call him last year? I think Toto Wolf Tot.
He's called Christian a terrier, yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I think Christians like those are great dogs.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
But you know, Christian's kind of been not super talkative
or like in the media much this season, other than
like at the very beginning there was some helmet Marco stuff,
but after the whole Liam Yuki swapping seats bit like
I haven't really seen or heard from Toto or not
Toto Christian yeah much when they were previously like it's
(43:50):
almost every week. Yeah, I wonder if that was intentional
of them being like okay, red Bulls, like okay, we're
getting too much bad press, Like we need.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
To show probably probably, I mean they fault. Yeah, did
you see which I think this is? I have to
check this. Did you see that? Like Max was like, yeah,
I'm not going to the F one premier because I'm
gonna spend time my kid. And then he's like just
kidding him at a racetrack, Well, we don't have been there.
She could have been there, That's what I saw. I
was like, she could have been there.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
I don't know that. Oh, but you mentioned the F
one movie and I keep referring to it as the
F one movie, but the actual title of it is
F one the movie. Is anyone calling it F one
the movie?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I mean, I don't know. I honestly didn't know, truth
to be told, I didn't know if it had an
actual title, Like I F one was the low key
assumed that there was a title that I was just
calling it the F one or one one. I think
F one that F one movie was like the working title.
And then people like you assume they were going to
pick an actual title and know they just went with
(44:54):
F one the movie, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
That feels lazy. I wish they would have picked something different.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Where if they have to pay so much to just
even use it's the official F One logo that they're using,
and they obviously would have they obviously would have done
everything in partnership with f One because the way they
filmed everything, you know, and even having the drivers appear
in the movie.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Which I really want to go see it.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
It's gonna be Honestly, I'm gonna say it now. I
don't have high hopes for this movie whatsoever, but I
think that the way it's filmed will be great, and
as like movie nerds, I think will really enjoy like
seeing how it was filmed and the technique just because
it's something that's never been done before. I think that
side will be super interesting. I don't have high hopes
for the plot, and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
I really want to see the cameos of all the
actual driver yes, Like I'm excited to see yes.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
And then I'm excited for that because I'm like, oh,
I think Daniel Ricardo will be in it.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, And I saw someone kind of compare it to
like if you're an actual like fighter pilot and you
know a lot about airplanes and all that stuff, and
then you go and see like Top Gun, which I
really love Top Gun Maverick. I enjoy I've seen a
(46:12):
movie multiple times and I enjoy it a lot. They've
compared it to like if you're just a general fan
of like film or the way things are filmed, and
you know, action flicks and stuff like that. They're like,
if you're just a general fan of that kind of stuff,
you should enjoy it. But it would be like if
you're a super f one fan and really about the
racing and stuff, it would be the equivalent of if
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you're like a fighter pilot going to watch Top Gun,
like you're gonna be like, you have to. It's a
different thing. It's not like a documentary. It's not an
on board of a race. It's a movie. So you
have to approach it that way. You can't be nitpicking,
Oh well, this isn't accurate, and this isn't right, and
why would you do blah blah blah blah. You can't
(46:54):
nitpick it. We'll see which to With Lewis Hamilton as
a consultant and a major part of helping steer the
direction of producer, I believe so. But with him being
a consultant on this film, and they consulted several different people,
they consulted Will Buxton, Ruth Buscomb. You would think that
(47:16):
they would make it as accurate to the sport as
they could. Yeah, he is a producer, but again you
kind of have to go into it understanding that it's
a different thing.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, we'll see. We'll just see. We can go ahead
and hop into our rookie report. Kimmy Antonelli. He qualified fourth.
He finished third, so he got fifteen points. He got
off to a strong start with a bold move on
Piastre that set the tone of his race. He held
third for most of the run, even challenging Verstaffin at times,
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and came under heavy pressure from Piastre in the closing laps.
With impressive composure, he defended his position to claim his
first career podium, becoming the third youngest driver ever to
stand on the podium.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Wo Go Kimme.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Isaac Khajar. He qualified ninth. He finished sixteenth zero points.
Hajar was aiming for a one stop strategy, but his
tires gave out late in the race, forcing an early
switch to safts just before the safety car was deployed.
The timing cost him positions and brought an end to
his streak of top ten finishes, so.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
We'll get him next time.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Champ. Yeah, I just feel like that's just one of
those weird things that happened. I don't think that'll be
a trend for Isaac. I think he's proven thus far
that he is the most like consistent rookie. He's performed
the best overall, like consistently.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
This is literally just a strategy problem. They chose the
wrong strategy.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah. Franco Colopinto, he qualified twelfth, he finished thirteenth, so
zero points. Colopinto's race fell apart pretty early after losing
a spot to an aggressive move from Hulkenberg. His first
pit stop dropped him into traffic and from that point
on he just couldn't recover or break back into the
top ten. He did have his elbows out early in
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the race, which, if you recall, that's when Alex kind
of lawnmowered. He uses car as a lawnmower on the grass,
so he was a little more aggressive than we were
used to seeing him. So that was good to see.
So hopefully he can take that energy into Austria. Ali
Bhman qualified fourteenth, he finished eleventh, so zero Points has
attempted a one stop strategy for Barman and Oconn, but
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Barman in particular spent much of the race caught in traffic.
He switched us off under the late safety car in
case there were gonna be any more racing laps, which
there weren't, so it didn't really change anything. So he
just finished right outside the points. It's all right, Gabrielle Bordoletto.
He qualified sixteenth, he finished fourteenth, so zero points. He
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finished fourteenth after a challenging race where he spent most
of it fighting in the midfield. He ran a long
stint on the hards, hoping for a safety car that
came way too late to make a difference. Basically, he
pushed early to stay ahead of the quicker cars and
it hurt his tirres and limited his pace. But he
felt there was more potential and remains focused on learning
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and improving each weekend. Like we said earlier too, Hulkenberg
performed pretty well with these new upgrades. Bortoloto has some
proven to do. At this point, I think, you know,
I mean, at this point, I think we had a
lot of benefit of the doubt because of he's in
a salbur But I think at this point, you know,
we have you know he's kind of like a prodigy.
(50:38):
It's time to start prodigy in I don't know man,
so William Lawson. He qualified nineteenth, he did not finish.
He had as a DNF, so zero points. Liam had
to start from the pit lane after taking on a
new set of power unit components, and unfortunately he also
had to park the car because of his power unit.
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So something is going on there that clearly racing bulls
are going to have to investigate and figure out what
the issue is. So no points for Liam. In our
last rookie, Fernando Alonso qualified sixth. He finished seventh, so
he got six points. It was interesting early in the
race Alonzo chose not to even try to fight Lando
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too hard, like we were just like, oh, he just
let him go by. I think he just knew where
who was, who his fight was with, and who wasn't him,
so he didn't fight Norris. But he was running well
inside the top ten. A pit stop dropped him into traffic,
forcing him to manage his race carefully, but he stayed
clean and climbed back to finish a season best P seven.
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So two races in a row, Alonso has points. Let's
keep it up. And that is it with the Rookie Report.
I guess we can move on to our best and worst.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Here's your best driver the day was Kimmy Antonelli.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
I knew it was, and that's why I had to change.
That was gonna be mine, but I changed it.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Uh. He got his first podium. He's a rookie. He
qualified P three, managed to hold onto P three. He
was defending really well against an oscar and eventually both
McLaren's bearing down on him. It was just really impressive,
and I'm like, good, good on you, Kimmy.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
I couldn't choose Kimmy because she did, but I chose
Max because everybody was giving him shit. Like it was
like everyone was like, well, Max, you're fucked because at
this point you've got so many points on your license,
you're bound to get another one because you're you. And
Max was like fuck you and fuck you and fuck
everybody and kept it clean.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yep, had a really solid weekend.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah, I had a good weekend. Kept it clean, told
some journalists off, which I enjoyed, and you know that
was it. Yeah, so go Max.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
So my biggest letdown of the weekend I kind of
had two that I could pick from. So I was
Linda Norris, Okay, I was.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Like, I only got one, pick your other one.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
So my I will go then with uh Ferrari's strategy.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
I was gonna be my other one, but I I
think I did them not too long ago, just fra.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, so I'll go with the Ferrari strategy. I mean,
I think initially they were trying to go for a
one stop, but then they called Charles in, but he's
on the radio like, I don't agree with this. Why
are you trying to pit me that I just told
you the tires are fine. I think Charles really was
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still trying to make it a one stop, and Ferrari
decided that they were gonna make it a two and
then it just it was just the clown show again
of just Ferrari just not And I think we've talked
about last time when we're talking about the strategy struggles
and communication problems, where it's like, as a as a team,
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when you're coming up with a strategy, you have to
take the driver's input into account. And yeah, okay, maybe
at that point in the race, the strategists we're seeing
something and the engineers were seeing something that Charles didn't
know about. I mean, but there does come a point
where if it happens so often, there's a breakdown in trust,
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you know, with the driver with their team when it's
like if you are if your team is consistently and
making a trend and a habit of getting the strategy
calls wrong, even when you're question especially when you're questioning
them in the middle of them making the wrong choice,
there's a breakdown in trust there. And eventually, I would
think as a driver, you know, and up to now,
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Charles has very much been a team player and a
you know, a Ferrari is my boss, and when my
boss says we do something, we do it. I can
give push back and tell them I don't think it's
a good idea. But at the end of the day,
if they still insist, it's like you got to do
what your boss tells you, right. But I think we
there may come a point when I mean, and we
saw Carlos, you know, over his time with Ferrari, was
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not afraid to tell Ferrari, no, we're not doing that,
and it ended up with him being successful in the
race multiple times where it ended up that Carlos made
the right call, and he was not afraid to question
and then tell them no, I'm not doing that. Because
if you tell your driver to come in and then don't.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Come in, or or your driver goes I'm coming in.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, you gotta be ready. So it's ultimately down to
the driver if they're going to listen or not. And
I think that some drivers are more or less willing
to listen, depending on who they are in history with
the team. But I would not be surprised if I
think it could go either way With Charles. I think
he could get to a point where he's so frustrated
that he's just like, fuck it, I'm doing what I
want because y'all are clowns. Or I could also see
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him being so ingrained into the Ferrari way that he
can't bring himself to go against them.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Ultimately, yeah, I'm hoping that's where Lewis will step in.
Lewis is the most successful Foremenalan driver there ever has been.
And at this point, did you sign him just for
like bells and whistles and look we and for like,
oh god, we've signed Lewis Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
No, you signed him.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
You signed Lewis fucking Hamilton, baby, like.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
For his expertise as a driver and to help you
change your team because at this point, what you're doing
it ain't working.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
So if you're going to bring on a seven time
world champion, I would imagine it's not just for the
extra money that it's gonna give you a bump up
your stock, you know, like you have to.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
That's like hiring the most decorated war general and then
not listening to them when it comes to strategy, Like
you literally have hired the most decorated Formula One driver.
If he's saying something's not working, take his word for it,
I think he knows what the fuck he's talking about.
And so I really I feel like it's I think
Lewis is gonna to go this fucking lay the hammer down.
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I mean, Andre time.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
We talked about last time too, how when Lewis was
with Bono at Mercedes, they have developed a trust with
each other to where they actually respected each other's opinions,
and Bono would ask Louis, what do you want to
do what or would ask very targeted specific questions because
the answer to that then would dictate what they chose
to do with the strategy. It's like use your driver
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to help you decide your strategy. Get information from them.
You can't just stare at the screens and what everyone
else is doing, like you need driver.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Input and I don't know. I mean, I know during
the course of the race there's a lot of radio
messages we don't hear. But that aside, I'm just like,
clearly there's a trend where when there's some whatever's happening
over all, that fitwall ain't working.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
Every time I hear Charles get on the radio and
say I don't think we should do this. I don't
understand why we're doing this. I don't understand that choice.
Every time he says that, that tells me that they're
not communicating with him and telling him why they're doing things. Yeah,
because if your driver doesn't understand why you're doing something.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Yeah I don't, it's not going well. My big I
sat down was Lando Norris, because he had the pace.
Should have just been smarter, and that's all. That's what
it was.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
He chose the wrong side of the track to go on.
He could have went left or right, and.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
He just was I think he was just getting antsy,
he was getting impatient. He made the wrong choice and
you know, he paid for it, so hopefully at the
end of the day, it's just it's something to learn from.
Won't happen again? Yep. Well, now that just leaves us
with our next race teaser, which I didn't fill out
the top of for round eleven, Una memento.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
It's the MSc Cruises Austrian Grand Prix. The circuit is
the Red Bull Ring. Thanks, So that's the only part
that I fell out.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Perfect, that's she's got it. So last year our main
race result was George Russell, Oscar Piastre and Carlos Science.
Speaker 1 (58:54):
And this is the same race. Where is this the
one where Lando and Max crashed out?
Speaker 2 (59:00):
Has to be because Max but yeah, because Max ended
up finishing fifth and then Lando was out of the
race complete legu Yeah.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
Yeah, so this is the one that uh, George scooped up.
He was just sitting in third watching all the action
unfold and he was like, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
And so they were. For the sprint race, our top
three finishers were Maxerstappen, Oscar Piastrian, Lando Norse Nuts.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
So some information about the Red Bull Ring. The first
GP was held in nineteen seventy. It is seventy one laps.
The circuit length is four point three one eight kilometers,
which equals about two point six miles. The race distance
is three hundred and six point four five two kilometers,
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which is about one hundred and ninety miles. The lap
record was set by Carlos Science in twenty twenty at
a minute and five point six one nine seconds. It
has three drs zones and the red bull ring is
pretty short, but it has plenty of action. The first
half of the lap is all about power, with three
straits broken up by a pair of uphill right handers.
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From there, the track flows downhill through a fast twisting section,
a roller coaster run capped off by the thrilling rint
Rin Corner, named after Austria's first Formula One champion. So
I clearly I said it two different ways. Hopefully one
of those was correct. So in my biggest thing anytime
I look at these is I just want to know
can I overtake here? Because I'm just trying to go
ahead and menually prepare for what I'm about to watch. Yes,
(01:00:30):
this is a track where you can overtake. It features
a combination of long straights and tight corners that create
opportunities for passing, especially at turn one and turn three,
not to mention three drs. So so hopefully this will
be a fun, action packed race. So begot it was
last year it was, so we shall see.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Very excited.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
But that about wraps it up.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah yeah, so, I guess do we want them to
leave anything in the comments for us?
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Let us know who your best and worst over the
weekend was. And I guess that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
We're talking to you next time, is it?
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Bye? Bye, mm hmm
Let's talk about Hitler.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
That'll make sense later.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I'm immaculately conceived.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I swear I'm not stupid.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Take it or lead that. Sometimes you just want to
leave it.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I got to bar my mom's underwear. I'm borrowing or underwear.
You just yeah, mista lights, the jar jar beats.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm not gonna edit it out. No, I don't know.
I guess I got It's.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Pretty great suck.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Why are you saying with a question mark clap?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Bitch? All right?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Three?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Two? What?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And we're live. I'm Mana and I'm Jessica, and this
is why are you yelling? Welcome back to another F
one race review. Today we're gonna be reviewing and recapping
and analyzing round ten of the twenty twenty five from
the one season, the Pirelli Grand Prix du Canada. Our circuit.
Our track was the circuit. Jill Villeneuve, good job, yay,
(00:55):
I got it, Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I heard it enough this week that I was like, oh,
I did say it right, And I was so paranoid
that I had said it wrong last time, and then
I just heard them say it over and over over.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I wonder if like the like the f one TV
commentators and stuff, and they just have so much practice
saying all the names of the tracks in the circuits
in the cities because they just don't even hesitate. They
just they're spitting out.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And I'm like, okay, I'm like, oh well then, okay, guys,
this is rough. It's hot in here. Yeah, it's not
as hot as it as it was at the other place,
but whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh yeah, we uh moved our studio there was everything
looks a little bit different. You might be able to
tell or not. Like our way, it looks different on
air now. It only took us three days.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
That's actually a record. Yeah, we've moved this set three
times now.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, this is the fastest we've ever done it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yes, so far, Like, I'm really proud of us.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We touched up our walls.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it was phenomenal actually what we got and what
we got done in three days. But we won't for
you with that, yause you don't care, okay. So our
podium was George Russell, Max First Stappen and Kimmy and
to Nelly aayo, I'm so proud of him.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Our little baby, Kimmy.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Say, little baby precious, So our constructor standings. Now we
have McLaren at number one with three hundred and seventy
four points, and now Mercedes is number two with one
hundred and ninety nine points, overtaking Ferrari. Ferrari has dropped
down to third with one hundred and eighty three points.
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Red Bull is fourth with one hundred and sixty two points.
Williams is fifth with fifty five points. It goes from
hundreds of points to like half that. Haas is sixth
with twenty eight points. Racing Bulls is seventh with twenty
eight points as well, so they're tied. Aston Martin is
eighth with twenty two points, Kick Salber is ninth with
twenty points, and Alpine is tenth with eleven points.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So so for constructor standings, I would assume that if
you'd have two constructors that are tied in points, they
then go to like the whoever has the most like
first place finishes second place, finishes third, and then it
just keeps going down.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Right I would. I'm assuming it's like this right now,
because whoever reached that number first is whoever had twenty
eight points first. Is what I'm assuming is I.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Know for a fact that for the drivers standings, it's
based on if they're tied exactly, it is based on
who has more first place finishes, and then if they're
tied on that it goes to second place. If the
time that it goes to third place. So I don't
I would. I would think maybe the constructors are similar,
but who knows.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Someone let us know if you know. Put it in
the comments, because I'm curious, if you know, how do
we break ties in constructor standings, like to know who
would get above the other.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Let us know the comments, or maybe maybe I'll research
and come back next time. Maybe we'll see. Oscar Piastre
is still leading the driver's championship and now he has
a little cushion against his teammate Lando Norris because Orlando
got a DNF so.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
He had a little oopsie.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He had an oopsie, so he gained no points and
that has allowed Oscar to just kind of get a
little bit of a gap from him. And yeah, that was.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Very interesting, and now it's time for our friend facts.
The first one is that the Canadian Grand Prix previously
finished under a safety car in nineteen ninety nine and
in twenty fourteen, so apparently, and it did in this
one as all in twenty twenty five, So apparently you
can't finish your race under a safety car.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That would have been nice to know circa twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, I mean it sounds to me like they had
already established you could do that with the year being
nineteen ninety nine and twenty fourteen. Just interesting, good to know.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
George Russell's win was his fourth Grand Prix victory ever,
and he is the fourth different Grand Prix race winner
this season. That was a.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Trend last season where every single time it felt like
we were giving it a we have this many winners,
we have this many winners, and I'm like, ah shit, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
There was a stat last year that, like we they
it was the most like different number of race winners
in the like first I want to say, like half
of the season or something where it was just very
like back and forth different. I want to say, it
was like six or seven different race winners a lot.
So this was mercedes fifth victory in Montreal, but the
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first for them by any driver other than Li was
Hamilton and George Russell has now finished on the podium
more times this season than in all of last season.
So he's finished on the podium five times so far
this season, and last season he finished the podium four times.
I feel like it was more for some reason. Yeah,
but I guess not.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I guess not.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
George Russell is the ninth consecutive Canadian Grand Prix winner
from the front row of the grid. Okay, moving on
to Max for staff. In his p two finish for
Red Bull ended history of three consecutive Canadian Grand Prix wins.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So and George Russell yoinked it joinked it away.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Max has reduced his championship deficit to Oscar Pastri down
to forty three points. Red Bull are now four racests
short of Ferrari's all time record of eighty one consecutive
points finishes. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
He's how many away Red Bull?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So Red Bull? He because Max is the only one
I know. I know. Yeah, So Red Bull is now
four races away from Ferrari's all time record of eighty
one consecutive points finishes.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Russell Emberstappen finished one two for the third time, but
it is the first time Russell's been the winner. The
other two times were in Belgium. Twenty twenty one and
Netherlands twenty twenty two. Moving on to our other Mercedes
podium finisher, Kimmy Antonelli in P three becomes the third
youngest podium finisher of all time, behind Max Verstappen and
(06:53):
Lance Stroll. So Kimmy got his first podium at eighteen
years and two hundred and ninety one were days old.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I hate that. I hate any time somebody's like, my
baby's fourteen months old, my baby's one hundred and thirty
six months. I get that for the status matter. So yes, wait,
so how old was Lentz Stroll? I don't even that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Would have been nineteen. The fact that he's even ever
finished on a podium, I'm just like, no, when I
mean the fact that he would he was clearly so
young as well, Yeah, I'm like, oh I did.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I wouldn't have expected it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I need to know this now, hold on, Like, wait
a minute. So this would have been early in his career.
So in twenty seventeen he finished third, becoming the youngest
rookie to achieve a Formula One podium. I guess at
the time, uh maybe at the.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Time land Stroll finished third the twenty seventeen oser Bajan
Grand Prix at the age of eighteen years and two
hundred and thirty nine days, making him the second youngest
driver ever to achieve a podium finish after Max for Steff. So, so
now he is the third, right, al right? Who how
old was.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Kimmy nineteen eighteen and two hundred and ninety.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Four days ninety four?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh? Okay, Yes, kimm is behind maxim plates that was
the third youngest.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay, Yeah, so that's what it was. So he finished
third and twenty seventeen and he was eighteen years old
two hundred and three nine days. H I would not
have I just wouldn't have assumed that stat Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So his first podium he got when he was racing
for Williams, and his other two podiums in twenty twenty
he got as part of a racing point.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Interesting, So Kimmi Inintonelli is the first Italian to finish
on the podium since Jarno truly truly at the two
thousand and nine Japanese Grand Prix. Wow and Mercedes, as
we mentioned, move into these into second in the team's
championship after losing that spot to Ferrari in Spain.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Come on, no man.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Moving on to McLaren, I am Oscar Piastre. He finished
p four for McLaren and marks the end of his
eight race podium finishing streak. So he and he was
one short of McLaren's all time record set by Lewis
Hamilton in two thousand and seven, a finishing on the podium,
So he didn't break it, as allard, he was one short.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Ah well it just wasn't It's just not time for
that to be broken yet.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well he was one short of I think meeting that record,
not breaking it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Ooh even better, Love you, Oscar, but I'm not ready,
not ready.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Oscar extends his championship lead by twenty two points over
teammate Lando Norris. Speaking of mister Norris, the Piastre Norris
collision was a replay the one between then McLaren teammates
Lewis Hamilton and Jensen Button in the twenty eleven Canadian
Grand Prix. Well well, well yeah, history repeats itself. I guess.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, we just watched that clip, which I don't think
I can throw up one here, but we can include
like a length to go show it to you that's
pretty similar.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
It's very identical. Like literally the two of them coming
a lo oongside each other, and then the one in
the back tries to go around this way on the
track and gets kind of squeezed into the barrier towards it,
and then like barely touches the car in front, and
then the whole front wing comes off like.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It looks like almost exactly said, you know what, I wonder,
I wonder what the penalty was for that compared to
what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, what's that?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I need to know that?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Okay, so we're back. We googled.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
We had a research break because we're poorn, don't have
anybody to do it for us while we're talking, and we.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Really needed to know. But apparently when Hamilton and Jensen,
I don't know why I said Hamilton last name for
same when Hamilton and Button collided in twenty eleven, Button
did not receive a penalty for that collision, but for
the twenty twenty five rays and the collision between Oscar
and Lando, Lando did get a post race penalty, but
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he didn't get points on his slicense.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, he got a five second host race penalty, but yeah,
no point it's interesting. I mean it was. It's so similar.
We'll put the link down there because we can't show
it in here. But it's so identical.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's crazy. Like I was very surprised, the fact the
front wing getting ripped off, just all of it. The
fact that Lewis had to retire the car, but Jensen
went on. He went on to win, but he continued
the race, just like Oscar continued the race. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It doesn't button to win that race.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, city won.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And with the collision in landon Norris's retirement, that means
that he failed to reach the checkered flag for the
first time since Austria last season, which Austria last season
was when he collided with Max or seven.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
With his best friend. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The lore, Yeah, the lore, it writes itself.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Brauh crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So moving on to our Ferrari boys, Charles Leclair took
P five and has beaten teammate Lewis Hamilton in nine
of the last ten Grand Prixs.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
This season, it feels unnecessary to say it feel like
there's one hundred other fun facts. This is not fun.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I thought it was pretty fun.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Did you did? You could have? I thought it was
fun that he got fifth. The rest of it could
have lived without with.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Samilton finished in P. Six and as thus Okay has
thus failed to score a podium finish in the opening
ten races of the season for the first time in
his nineteen seasons and Formula One moving on.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I'm sorry he can't understand what the man on the
radio saying. I can't fast fall. No, it's not whatever, man,
I'm one of those.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Fernando Alonso finished P seven for Aston Martin, which means
he has scored in consecutive races after being pointless for
the first eight Grand Prix of the season.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I don't like how that's worried either. I hate that's
something that multiple, like, that's not the first time that
has been like it is that way, and I'm like,
without points is way better than pointless.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
He is pointless, Like I hate that, but your existence pointless.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I'm like, oh my god, that's so just. But why
after being without points, I feel like that's just as fine,
Like God gets the point, that's fine, just as good,
just just fine. Like say it again, just say that
again and tell me that doesn't sound nuts.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Fernando Alonso's P. Seven for Aston Martin meants he has
scored in consecutive races after being without points in the
first eight Grand Prixs of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Before it was after he was pointless. After being pointless, like, oh,
I was happy about that.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I was like, yay, let's go a lot. So and uh,
I mean, it looks like maybe Aston Martin has turned
a corner or are they It feels like they found
some improvement. I mean, I know Alonso was super like
happy with the car.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I mean, it's he finished seventeen so well. He also was.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Recovering from a hand surgery that he was not wanting
to talk about whatsoever in the media.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I actually felt bad for Lance.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I did too. He he is never that enthusiastic. What
do you participate in the couple of like press conferences
I've seen him in, he generally is very low energy
and gives off like I really don't want to be
here sort of vibe. But I mean in this particular
pre race press conference that they did, it was just
(14:22):
I mean, people kept asking about his hand, and he
he in the I think, in the politest way possible,
was trying to tell them like it's my medical history,
it's personal and I'm not going to go into detail
about it. Like he was giving them the information, like
the bare information that they needed, and they kept asking
(14:42):
him like, oh well what like like to go into
detail about, like well, what was the pain like? And
when did you know there was a problem, and oh
what's your recovery been like? And do you have a
plan in play?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It's like basic, Well, they're just trying to figure out
what it is. So they're like, what does the pain
feel like? Because they're like, isn't nerve? Was it a bone?
Was it this? What was it? They're like how long
have you had it? Like what race did he get it?
So then we can go watch his onboards and figure
out what did he do, what the injury could be.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
But it's just so invasive.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's at the point where it's like he had a
hand injury, he has surgery for it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Fuck off, And he did break his hand. I believe.
I believe he broke his hand a couple of years
last season. It was like in a skiing accident or something.
It was before the season started. I think, I don't know,
or maybe it was on a break.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Hold on in quick fact check, Oh it was cycling,
it wasn't skiing. Oh so this was in twenty twenty three. Yeah,
I remember him getting injured. So he fractured both wrists
and broke a toe during a cycling accident, and he
underwent surgery on his right wrist.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Didn't he say though, that he had an injury sense
a certain race though in that press conference that he'd
been having issues with it since a certain point last year.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Well, yeah, he basically it was recurring pain, yeah, which
I mean is not uncommon. Once you break a bone,
even if it heals, it's significantly, like percentage wise, more
prone to injury than it was before it was broken. Yeah,
it's more prone to breaking again. Or there could be
nerve issues. I mean, there's all sorts of things it
could be. I mean you had your your finger thing.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, it's still numb to this day right here. Yeah
you oh yeah, that's right. I had a I might
cut this out, but we'll see. Long story short, my
dog broke my finger by accident when his leash got
wrapped around my finger and then he pulled and it
literally broke my I don't know, camera, this finger like
literally went like this like and just completely broke and
it went to the side the side. Yeah, and so
when it healed though, a bone fragment was constantly poking
(16:32):
because I mean, you can't really get a cast on
your finger.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
No, they can blend it to try and help it
heal straight. But other than that, But I didn't have
health a churan, so I didn't do that at the time. Yeah,
so you could. You can self split, but there's no
guarantee you're going to set it right.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah. So when it healed, I had a bone that
like a little tiny fragment that just I guess healed
like stuck out stuff out and it kept hitting this nerve.
So I had to have hand surgery and they shaved
it off. But to this day now it's numb, but
it felt a lot better. I mean I could literally
just touch it two hard. Now it scream because do
you have a scar on your finger.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, but yeah, but that's just to show that like injuries,
it's not just like a quick fix. And especially when
you break things, it's like you can have recurring problems
after the fact. I mean it could be like a
he broke his hand and they did surgery to correct it,
and it could be that if they used any sort
of pins to set the bones in place, because there's
so many bones in the hand that it's actually one
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of the more complex things that if you break it,
it's a little more complex to try and treat it
and heal it. So I mean, they could have used
pins to set some things in there and to attach things.
So a pin could be rubbing up on something. I mean,
it could be, like you said, nerves, pinching or rubbing.
It could be any sort of thing. But the amount
of questions that they kept asking, and especially there was
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one guy it was one of like the more prominent
TV journalists. I forget who it was either, it wasn't Crafty.
Who's the other one, Brundle, it was one of them.
I think Brundle is a yeah, it was one of
those two that asked the question, I think, But they
basic Lance had already asked or answered several questions about
(18:04):
his hand injury at that point, and this particular journalist,
when they open the floor up to questions, he asked Lance.
He was like, so, Lance, I've noticed that you kept
your right hand, the one that was injured. I noticed
you kept your right hand in your pocket the whole time,
and you haven't taken it out during this whole like, like, look,
because he had it in his pocket and was holding
the microphone was left hand, and he was asking him like,
(18:26):
is there is it? Because that it's injured, you're not
wanting to show us, Like what's kind of going on
with that? And then Lance is like.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I'm fucking sitting here with my hand in my pocket.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Lance takes a second, he takes a beat to answer,
and you can kind of almost see on his face
that he's kind of like what the fuck kind of questions.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
That are you afraid to show us your hand? Fuck off?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And then and then I have so much respect for
Lance Stroll because he didn't remove his hand from his
pocket even then.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, because I'm like they some people don't have to.
I'm somebody who fidgets a lot. Some people don't jealous.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
But I was just like, because the easy thing to do,
or maybe not the easy thing, but the acquiescing sort
of thing to do is when your challenged like that
would be to take your hand out of your pocket
and be like, look where you're making a big deal
on nothing. But I like the fact that he didn't
remove his hand from his pocket, and he was like, no,
I'm not going to give you the satisfaction. Like they
were just being so invasive and so many questions, and
(19:20):
eventually got to the point where he another journalist asked
a question about it, and he basically he literally said, well,
I already answered this earlier, but I'll say it again,
and like he summarized, like I had old hand injury.
It started bothering me a couple of races ago. The
pain got to the point where I couldn't basically stand
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it anymore. I went and had surgery. They fixed the problem.
I'm good now. And that's so weird, and because then
they were still asking like, oh, do you think it's
going to be recurring? Do you have any reason to
think that the pain will come back or that the
injury will come back, and all, like just so many questions,
and I was like, can you leave him alone?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I literally what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I felt so bad for him. I'm like, I it
just got to the point where it was just super invasive.
And again I understand that journalists, like their job is
to ask the questions and it's on the driver to
answer or not answer the questions as they see fit,
and they don't have to answer questions they don't want to. Yeah,
they can just say no comment and move on. But
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there's a time and a place, and well.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's like how many times I guess I just I
just don't see why keep asking the same exact thing
over and over again.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Because you think at some point they'll get frustrated and
answer the question. And I'm like, just to get people
to stop asking.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I'm just I just wouldn't say anything. No, it's gonna
be silent. I'm literally like if I just like at
that point of the questions too, but I'm just gonna
be silent, stare at you until you get the picture
to move on, m just because I'm like, I want
to make you uncomfortable as uncomfortable as you were trying
to make me with that question.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I would just say move on.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I would be like, are you sure is that here?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I would say a common response when people when you
keep getting the same quietquestion, especially in a conference setting,
is asked and answered. My question has been asked and
has already been answered.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
An answered that's centswered next, So cunty. I love that.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Uh huh. I'm like we got to get a little
more cunty Lance. Come on now, yeah, be get in
your count era. Back to our fun facts kicks. Auber's
Nico Hulkenberg finished in the top eight for the third
time this season. Why to go, Hulk, Let's go, the
first Sober driver to score in consecutive Racist since valtri
Botas in twenty twenty two when he scored in Mexico
(21:32):
and South Halo. That's exciting about Ocan finished P nine
and he scored Haas's best ever Montreal race, finished in
the team's two hundredth Grand Prix. Wow fun stuff, and
it was o'conn's fourth Grand Prix points finish of the season.
Carlos Signs finished P ten for Williams, scoring points for
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the fifth time in the last six Grand Prixs, and
Alex Alban failed to finish, meaning Kentucky retirements for him
in Spain. In Canada, Alex, my guy, we started so strong.
What's happening?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
That was? That whole thing with Colopinto was weird. I'm like,
where were you going? Oh yeah, yeah, I'm like when
he like then his car became like a lawnmower and
god like to see how it bounced.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. Yeah. Oh yeah,
because at the start of the race we were talking
about how Colopinto was kind of like getting his elbows
out and being a little aggressive. And then Alex so Alex, Yeah,
he was the he like, but he went flying.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
He was never making that corner. I don't know what
he was doing. Yeah, that was nuts.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, and then I remember Alex eventually kind of just
pulling off into like a runoff aregain.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I would assume something from that had done something to
the car problem time. I mean that because it was rough.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Uh. And then our last fun fact, Liam Watson's retirement
was his third of the season four racing Bulls.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I think Daniel Ricardo has just cursed the red Bull
seat and he's cursed that seat next. Yeah, And the
only way to meant to make better of this is
to heal is to just bring him back. That's what
I mean. That's the only way to cleanse the curse.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You need it like burst some stage.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Really that's enough, it's not enough, Well, then it's a
powerful curse.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
That was the end of our effects.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Wow, this was not this. I feel like this weekend
had so much drama going into it already. The first
so like the first drama was the Max and his
penalty and hit the points on his license, and basically,
if you're not aware he can, Max has one more
point he can get. If he gets one more point
on his license, he's going to be suspended for a race. Basically,
So that was a whole thing because he got three
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points put on his license. After the issue like that
collision with George Russell, everybody kept talking about that. Max
was getting so fed up with the entire thing. He
was like, we get it. Thanks, Like every journalist that
could ask Max about that pretty much did, to the
point that he was so fed up he was over it.
But the thing that really like surprised me because so
we've been hearing about that, I feel like everybody was
aware of that. I'm watching the weekend warm up on Thursday,
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and all of a sudden, like Laura Winter is asking,
how do you say his name Davide? Davide is, how
do you say it's Avali? I was gonna say avals Seqi,
but I couldn't. Okay, she was asking him about the
Italian media, and because basically two very prominent news outlets
have We're talking about Fred and how they might be
getting rid of him, and how Ferrari is super dissatisfied
(24:23):
and talked about Louis talked about Charles and was just
super crazy and I had no clue about it. I
hadn't seen any of this one Instagram, hadn't seen any
of this on like threads. I'd seen it nowhere, so
I'm like, what the fuck? And at this point in time,
they were second in the Constructors and so that was
just crazy. And then Louis was asked about that in
the FIA press conference where before the weekend starts, because
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they have two separate ones with three different drivers in
each one, and anyway, they asked Louis about it, and
basically Lewis pretty much said, I'm here because of Fred.
I don't support any decision to get rid of Fred.
And I felt like the implication was basically saying, I
don't know if I'll be here if there's no Fred.
That was sort of how I got it. It felt
very like, no nonsense, I don't know what this is about.
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This whole narrative is ridiculous. Charles had briefly talked about
it as well. I think it was just and then
Fred was like, what the fuck hello.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, I mean, Charles and Lewis both have a really
great relationship with Fred. They've openly talked about several times.
They both were I mean, Charles started off with Fred
as his team principal when he was at Alfa Romeo
formerly Alfa Romeo. I mean, and Lewis has worked with
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Fred before so and they both really like him, and
they were excited when he was brought on to Ferrari. So,
I mean with Ferrari, they've I mean, and Fred even
made this comment where you know, Ferrari has tried changing
team principles, they've tried changing drivers, they've tried changing engineers
and still not working. So and he said there's only
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one thing that have changed yet and he didn't say
what it was, but the uh implication is that it's
like the leadership at Ferrari. It's higher up that hasn't
been changed.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Shit. Yeah. That So that was just really weird going
into the weekend because now all of a sudden, I
felt cause I kind of just felt like, Okay, it's whatever,
and then all of a sudden, now all lies are
on Ferrari and then what was uh when Laura had
basically asked Daviday like, so you know they're saying this
is nonsense. What do you say? Because he's Italian and
(26:32):
he had like it was this might sound odd, but
he seemed like concerned. It was basically like, I think
they just need to concentrate on doing well because if
you have basically those two outlets are saying something, where
do they get that info from?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Especially if they're prominent, well respected outlet.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
The implication was he and he's like, I'm no, like
great journalist, but what I'm inferring is somebody's talking from Ferrari.
That was like I was, I don't know. That was
just super bizarre.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It would and it would have to be somebody in
the know, somebody high up up, high up up that
they would be part of those conversations.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That and also somebody that those either of those outlets
would have quoted basically like they would. It'd have to
be somebody for both of them to basically run a
big story on like they would have to know that
this person is giving them legitimate information. It's not just
some nobody at Ferrari saying yeah, So I'm like, but.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Then why would that person leak that information?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I don't know helet Marco talks a lot. Do they
have a was it helt Marco?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Who was that? I'm like, there's a conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I don't know. That's insane. So that was just a
really so then they kind of all eyes were sort
of on Ferrari again and.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I just can't even deal with it.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
So basically, if you watch the race, then you probably
saw and we talked about it a few minutes ago
Lando crashed himself, which was why it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Was so exciting because they were the build up to
this moment. It's been building up all season because we
keep chopping at the bit. We want to see McLaren fight,
we want to see the battle, right, and then this
race we've got it's like a like the Jaws, and
he was like, Dona Dona, Dona dona. Like it was
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just there was a build up of like, I mean,
let me set this scene for you. Oh, we've got
we've got Kimmy anton Ally in p.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Three.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We've got Oscar behind him in p. Four getting within
a DRS range. We've got Lando Norris in p. Five.
He's in DRS range. He's not. He's in DRS range
he's not. He's getting closer to Lando or he's getting
closer to Oscar, and then it's like, oh, now they're
both within We've got many drs trained between the three
of them, and you've got Kimmy Antonelly holding on to
P three and he's got the pressure of the McLaren's
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bearer like bearing down on him, and he he's got
to defend against them both right, and then we're like,
oh my god, what's gonna happen? We like, Lando's gotta
speed up if he wants to try to overtake Oscar,
and Oscar's under pressure from Lando and he's got to
speed up, and he's got to try and make a
move on Kimmy, but also defend against Lando and make
your moment like make it, make it count, and pick
the right woman. And then all of a sudden we
get side by side, taking the turns, taking the corners,
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and then it's like a back and forth and like
a Lando overtakes, but then Oscar gets back in front
of him and tries to keep it. And then at
one point they're kind of side by side and both
of them are within dr rest range of Kimmy Antonelli,
and we're like, oh my god, what's gonna happen, and
then we hit a corner. Lando tries to go around
and gets he really didn't have anywhere to go. He's
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not that he even didn't even get really squeezed by Oscar.
Oscar just took the line that I think anybody would
have taken. And then Lando just gets too close to him.
Like it wasn't that he ran out of road, he
just got a little too close and then barely tapped
the back of him with it in his whole front
wing ripped off and he like went into the barrier
and was able, fortunately to go into the grass, and
(30:02):
the barrier kind of helped anything worse from happening. Yeah,
but it was just it was rough. But to Lando's credit,
he immediately got on the radio and was like, my bad,
that was my fault completely, like just stupid mistake. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, Basically he had said he had like he had
already like anticipated, mind you, this is all this all
happened so fast for them, right, But basically I guess
from my understanding from what I was listening to him
talk and intended for other people talk, I guess he
basically assumed Oscar was gonna I guess he had been
taking a particular line the whole time, and Lando had
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just assumed that's the same line he's gonna take. Oscar
went a little bit wider, and that's what happened. But again,
that's not it's not Oscar's responsibility to help Lando decide
what line he's gonna pick all Land, because he's Oscar's
in front, he can decide what he wants to do.
So yeah, it was just insane, and it was. It's
annoying because like I've I feel for Orlando because I'm like,
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he was the better like outside of that obviously where
people will be like, well, if he with the better driver,
he wouldn't erect. I'm saying when it comes to pace,
he was faster.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I mean, but that's been a consistent track.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yes, And I'm just like, ye, don't I hope he's
not online right now, Just don't get online.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I mean, he seems to have been coping the last
several you know, I think he said he wasn't online. Yeah,
he said he's been seems he's been coping better with
making mistakes or you know that whole thing, and so
I think he I think he'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I think a lot of it comes down to, like,
if Max makes a mistake, I don't think Max then
has a crisis of like I suck as much as
he's like, I made a mistake. It as what it is,
and it doesn't mean that I'm a trash driver. It
just means I made the wrong choice in that moment.
And I think that can be a difficult mindset for
certain people to grasp when they allow a lot of
other people to They're looking for outside validation for their
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side worth of themselves. And maybe Lando's finally outside of
that and can have some confidence in himself because I
feel like half of it's a confidence issue or like
I don't know, And again, I actually really don't know
a lot about Lando's career before Formula One, So I
don't know a lot about like his Feeder series career
and to see was he somebody who was battling a lot,
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like did he have a lot of you know, on
track battles like that, Like I don't know, And some
of that I'm like, is that is that lack of experience?
In any way, I don't know about a lot about
Lando's driving style, to be honest, So I'm not sure
it makes me curious to know is the reason he's
struggling so bad because he literally doesn't have any experience battling, Like,
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I don't know, m M, it's just rough. But then
if I'm kimming Antonelli, I'm like poosh out for real.
He was like, thank god.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, so Lando making that mistake ultimately cost him his race,
and it cost Oscar because Oscar did get tapped and
it slowed him down some but he didn't really have
any damage, but it did cause the yellow flag and
safe yellow flag and safety car to come out. Uh,
and it cost Oscar the chance to fight for a podium.
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So he at that point, the races finished under the
safety car.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Which amazingly it can do. Wow. So during the safety car,
George Russell is first in Max's second. You know, they're
trying to keep their tires alive, do all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
In case they somehow restarted did a rolling restart of
the race, which they didn't but and.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
So then all of a sudden, George Russell like slams
on his brakes. The safety car is so far ahead
of him, and then Max it gets ahead of Org
for a second before he slams on his brakes he's
not allowed to pass George. Yeah, So then Max is like,
George just slam on his brakes, and then George Russell
over his radio simultaneously is like, Max just passed me.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
He just overtook me, and you're not allowed to do
and is a penalty.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And would probably be another point. I'm assuming I actually
don't know the rules to that, but I'm just like,
so when I saw that, I just thought that's kind
of gross because it definitely was intentional, Like I don't know,
and then what was it at the start of the
race or earlier in the day, George had said he
has a few penalty points to play with, so we'll
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see how the race goes or something like that. So
I'm like, and I know everybody was poking fun at
Mats with the penalty or with the points on his
license thing, and I'm just like, but that whole situation,
I don't know. That just feels kind of gross when
you know someone's like a point away from being suspended
you do something and do something like that, because that's
like clearly intentional and kind of malicious. So I'm like, hmmm,
(34:41):
I wonder if that's good for the children. I like
how that's associated with George Russell now as well, that
like because of that one thing he said last season
that anytime something happens, it's like what about the kids, George,
because he had said that. But anyway, so I thought
that was kind of gross. But then something that I
thought was so I kept seeing this online as well,
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was so like we said, Lando got a penalty after
the race, like a five second post race penalty for
his collision with Oscar, and but no points on his
license and versus Max got three points on his license
when he hit George Russell and Barcelona, and people were
saying the British bias and like, well why didn't Lando
(35:24):
get a point on his license or because he did
cause a collision. Well, I don't think they're comparable. I
don't think they're the same whatsoever. And I mean, this
is just my opinion. First of all, Lando finished, I'm sorry,
Oscar finished the race. He finished, He's fine. Lando has
ruined his own race. Did he have contact with Oscar? Yes,
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but he only really ruined himself. That being said, even
though we obviously obviously cannot say with one hundred percent
certainty that Max hit George on purpose, I feel like
it's everyone's assuming that and we're all leaning that way
that he pit George on purpose. I think it had
more to do with the intent and the unsportsmanship like
(36:08):
thing of like Leno didn't mean to hit Oscar.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
It leans more toward a racing incident.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yes, that's that's what I'm like. That leans more towards
a racing incident versus Max hit George.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, I would have to see what the I don't
know the rule, the exact rules are and the appropriate
penalties that can be given, because I know certain factors
do come into play when you're deciding which penalties to
award and if points on a license or fines are
appropriate or not. And it's all dictated by the rules,
(36:41):
but also by the stewart's discretion. Yeah, because they are
given some leeway in certain instances where if they want to,
they can, but they don't have to. And I think
that I know a lot of times the steward's in
f one will the kind of part line is like
(37:01):
there was the It's like the results of the infraction,
like the results of what happened are not what determined
if a penalty is a warded or not. It's like
breaking the rule. It's not the result of breaking the rule,
it's just breaking the rule in general, which so you know,
sometimes it can be like, oh, somebody exceeded track limits
and then they got a penalty for that, but it
(37:24):
but some people might argue, oh, well, they exceeded track limits,
but they didn't gain an advantage, so why would you
They shouldn't get a penalty for it in certain cases,
And it's like, no, no, no, that's not the rule. The
rule is if you do this, this is what you happens.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
If it's the result, which is not probably why a
lot of drivers wanted more gravel traps anyway, They're like,
just give us those.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I don't even like that penalizes you automatically.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, like we'd rather do that than have track limits
to the point that are so sensitive that it's like,
did you really gain an advantage? But no, So I
just am like I don't necessarily. I mean, I don't
know the rule book by any means. I'm not gonna
sit here like I'm some expert. But if I if
I were just look at the those two instances, I
don't really find I don't see them. I don't think
they're very similar. Besides, two cars touched max Is. As
(38:10):
much as I'm like it was what it was, I
still stand by I don't think I think the whole
people trying to categorize what he did as you think
his car is a weapon is insane. But what he
did was, if intentional, was very It was bad sportsmanship
and it's just not how you should act as a driver,
no matter how angry you are, because it could have
been dangerous, and I mean it wasn't. And Max is
(38:31):
obviously the best driver on the grid and can knows
how to drive. His is probably the safest driver, but
he knows the limbs of his cars that I'm trying
to say, and so I'm like, but it's still he
couldn't have. He really couldn't. It turned out fine, but
in reality, he couldn't. Didn't know with one hundred percent
certainty how George would react in that moment, and what
(38:51):
Georgia's car, how that could have reacted in that moment,
So it could have been something that dangerous that happened.
Luckily it didn't. So I'm like, yeah, points on the
license for that. As much as I like, Max seemed appropriate,
but I don't see I don't see how it's I
don't feel like we're comparing apples to apples with those
two scenarios. It just feels like the next thing that
people are somehow it's Land And that's the other thing too.
(39:14):
It's almost like somehow it's Lando's fault that he didn't
get points on his license, you know, like the next
narrative for people to hate on Lando with. And I'm like,
I don't even think they're really comparable. Like those two instances,
whether or not you think what Max did was right
or wrong or you don't care, I don't think they're
remotely the same thing.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, it's like, why are you getting mad at the
drivers for the British bias that you perceive the FIA
or for f one or the media to have. Like,
it's not the driver's fault that this British bias exists,
if it does exist.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I'm also like the British bias where I'm like, first
of all, who are the Stewards? Don't don't they tell
you who they are? Couldn't we go find that?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Well?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
They're different at every right now, I'm saying, but like
don't they Like I wonder if you can do anyway.
I don't know. I just am like, hmmm, I don't know.
That just felt kind of like a weird talking point
after the race where I'm like, I don't know that
they're comparable though, So that was sort of I mean,
the Kimmy getting his first podium was fun. That was
super cute. It was like watching too, like on the
(40:11):
watching the podium, watching like Max and George and Kimmy.
It was like watching two divorced parents be happy for
their kid. And so that was funny because they're like
being polite to each other back You're like you hate,
It's like I'm gonna fuck you.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I like that Max just dumped it all down. George's
like the back of his suit, like all in his
mac and then George's just like mm hmm, okay, He's
like faints, buddy, appreciate. Yeah. But I did see where
I did see where Kimmy like talked about his relationship
with Bono, and Kimmy's like, look, I'm a really affectionate person,
(40:46):
which I mean him being Italian, it makes sense, he's
very like physically affectionate, like hugs, kisses on the cheeks
like yeah, and he's like Bono is not, and so
it's taken some time for him to like for us
to gel you know, and for him to be comfortable
with me giving him a hug because he didn't give
him a hug after he got his podium and stuff
like that, which is like super cute, but like it's
(41:08):
funny because like you see that picture that's like really
well known now with like Toto has his arm around Kimmy,
like and Kimmy's just like holding on a Toto and
they're just like watching the whatever's on the screen together. Yeah,
and it's like he's like holding his child and You're
like and it's like that's the kind of like affection
that Kimmy was like, Bno's like not like that at all.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
I was like, I'm he's so funny. That is really funny.
The only other thing that I saw was, I know,
red Bull, I guess protested Mercedes after the race and there,
but nothing came of it.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah. Basically my understanding is that, uh, they called Georgian
and asked him to kind of explain and his side
of it, and basically George it was able to explain
point by point how like what he did was actually
by the rules, and after the stewards took into consideration
that and they you watch on board footage, they're like, yeah, no,
he was doing what he was supposed to do. And uh,
(42:04):
because George is basically like, well, I'm trying to keep
the delta between me and the safety car. He's like,
at one point, he's like, I needed to slow down.
And because apparently at one point he gives like a
speed up sort of gesture, like trying to like, you know,
hype when you're like, come on now to the safety
car because it was going too slow. Uh. And at
one point George said that he went to slow down,
(42:25):
but you can see him checking his mirror to and
like beside him to make sure Max isn't directly behind
him before he hits his brakes and slows down. And
it's not his responsibility to even like keep track or
make sure of where like Max is, like, it's Max's
job keep the delta in position behind George. So but
basically he just gave all these reasons point by point,
(42:47):
but like what he did was by the rules, and
he wasn't like break checking Max or trying to catch
him out. I mean, fair enough, the Steward's agreed with him,
and so, yeah, it is what.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
It is, is what it is. Yeah, that was pretty
much that so, and I guess they asked Toto about
it during the f one red carpet premiere the movie
premiere in New York and then Toto's like, it's gross.
They waited so long to do it. Afterwards and like
they were all he was just you know, you know
how they are, you know, him and Christian, they're.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Like they're little terriers or one of them. What did
they call him last year? I think Toto Wolf Tot.
He's called Christian a terrier, yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I think Christians like those are great dogs.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
But you know, Christian's kind of been not super talkative
or like in the media much this season, other than
like at the very beginning there was some helmet Marco stuff,
but after the whole Liam Yuki swapping seats bit like
I haven't really seen or heard from Toto or not
Toto Christian yeah much when they were previously like it's
(43:50):
almost every week. Yeah, I wonder if that was intentional
of them being like okay, red Bulls, like okay, we're
getting too much bad press, Like we need.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
To show probably probably, I mean they fault. Yeah, did
you see which I think this is? I have to
check this. Did you see that? Like Max was like, yeah,
I'm not going to the F one premier because I'm
gonna spend time my kid. And then he's like just
kidding him at a racetrack, Well, we don't have been there.
She could have been there, That's what I saw. I
was like, she could have been there.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
I don't know that. Oh, but you mentioned the F
one movie and I keep referring to it as the
F one movie, but the actual title of it is
F one the movie. Is anyone calling it F one
the movie?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I mean, I don't know. I honestly didn't know, truth
to be told, I didn't know if it had an
actual title, Like I F one was the low key
assumed that there was a title that I was just
calling it the F one or one one. I think
F one that F one movie was like the working title.
And then people like you assume they were going to
pick an actual title and know they just went with
(44:54):
F one the movie, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
That feels lazy. I wish they would have picked something different.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Where if they have to pay so much to just
even use it's the official F One logo that they're using,
and they obviously would have they obviously would have done
everything in partnership with f One because the way they
filmed everything, you know, and even having the drivers appear
in the movie.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Which I really want to go see it.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
It's gonna be Honestly, I'm gonna say it now. I
don't have high hopes for this movie whatsoever, but I
think that the way it's filmed will be great, and
as like movie nerds, I think will really enjoy like
seeing how it was filmed and the technique just because
it's something that's never been done before. I think that
side will be super interesting. I don't have high hopes
for the plot, and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
I really want to see the cameos of all the
actual driver yes, Like I'm excited to see yes.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
And then I'm excited for that because I'm like, oh,
I think Daniel Ricardo will be in it.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, And I saw someone kind of compare it to
like if you're an actual like fighter pilot and you
know a lot about airplanes and all that stuff, and
then you go and see like Top Gun, which I
really love Top Gun Maverick. I enjoy I've seen a
(46:12):
movie multiple times and I enjoy it a lot. They've
compared it to like if you're just a general fan
of like film or the way things are filmed, and
you know, action flicks and stuff like that. They're like,
if you're just a general fan of that kind of stuff,
you should enjoy it. But it would be like if
you're a super f one fan and really about the
racing and stuff, it would be the equivalent of if
(46:34):
you're like a fighter pilot going to watch Top Gun,
like you're gonna be like, you have to. It's a
different thing. It's not like a documentary. It's not an
on board of a race. It's a movie. So you
have to approach it that way. You can't be nitpicking,
Oh well, this isn't accurate, and this isn't right, and
why would you do blah blah blah blah. You can't
(46:54):
nitpick it. We'll see which to With Lewis Hamilton as
a consultant and a major part of helping steer the
direction of producer, I believe so. But with him being
a consultant on this film, and they consulted several different people,
they consulted Will Buxton, Ruth Buscomb. You would think that
(47:16):
they would make it as accurate to the sport as
they could. Yeah, he is a producer, but again you
kind of have to go into it understanding that it's
a different thing.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, we'll see. We'll just see. We can go ahead
and hop into our rookie report. Kimmy Antonelli. He qualified fourth.
He finished third, so he got fifteen points. He got
off to a strong start with a bold move on
Piastre that set the tone of his race. He held
third for most of the run, even challenging Verstaffin at times,
(47:49):
and came under heavy pressure from Piastre in the closing laps.
With impressive composure, he defended his position to claim his
first career podium, becoming the third youngest driver ever to
stand on the podium.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Wo Go Kimme.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Isaac Khajar. He qualified ninth. He finished sixteenth zero points.
Hajar was aiming for a one stop strategy, but his
tires gave out late in the race, forcing an early
switch to safts just before the safety car was deployed.
The timing cost him positions and brought an end to
his streak of top ten finishes, so.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
We'll get him next time.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Champ. Yeah, I just feel like that's just one of
those weird things that happened. I don't think that'll be
a trend for Isaac. I think he's proven thus far
that he is the most like consistent rookie. He's performed
the best overall, like consistently.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
This is literally just a strategy problem. They chose the
wrong strategy.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah. Franco Colopinto, he qualified twelfth, he finished thirteenth, so
zero points. Colopinto's race fell apart pretty early after losing
a spot to an aggressive move from Hulkenberg. His first
pit stop dropped him into traffic and from that point
on he just couldn't recover or break back into the
top ten. He did have his elbows out early in
(49:09):
the race, which, if you recall, that's when Alex kind
of lawnmowered. He uses car as a lawnmower on the grass,
so he was a little more aggressive than we were
used to seeing him. So that was good to see.
So hopefully he can take that energy into Austria. Ali
Bhman qualified fourteenth, he finished eleventh, so zero Points has
attempted a one stop strategy for Barman and Oconn, but
(49:32):
Barman in particular spent much of the race caught in traffic.
He switched us off under the late safety car in
case there were gonna be any more racing laps, which
there weren't, so it didn't really change anything. So he
just finished right outside the points. It's all right, Gabrielle Bordoletto.
He qualified sixteenth, he finished fourteenth, so zero points. He
(49:57):
finished fourteenth after a challenging race where he spent most
of it fighting in the midfield. He ran a long
stint on the hards, hoping for a safety car that
came way too late to make a difference. Basically, he
pushed early to stay ahead of the quicker cars and
it hurt his tirres and limited his pace. But he
felt there was more potential and remains focused on learning
(50:17):
and improving each weekend. Like we said earlier too, Hulkenberg
performed pretty well with these new upgrades. Bortoloto has some
proven to do. At this point, I think, you know,
I mean, at this point, I think we had a
lot of benefit of the doubt because of he's in
a salbur But I think at this point, you know,
we have you know he's kind of like a prodigy.
(50:38):
It's time to start prodigy in I don't know man,
so William Lawson. He qualified nineteenth, he did not finish.
He had as a DNF, so zero points. Liam had
to start from the pit lane after taking on a
new set of power unit components, and unfortunately he also
had to park the car because of his power unit.
(51:01):
So something is going on there that clearly racing bulls
are going to have to investigate and figure out what
the issue is. So no points for Liam. In our
last rookie, Fernando Alonso qualified sixth. He finished seventh, so
he got six points. It was interesting early in the
race Alonzo chose not to even try to fight Lando
(51:24):
too hard, like we were just like, oh, he just
let him go by. I think he just knew where
who was, who his fight was with, and who wasn't him,
so he didn't fight Norris. But he was running well
inside the top ten. A pit stop dropped him into traffic,
forcing him to manage his race carefully, but he stayed
clean and climbed back to finish a season best P seven.
(51:46):
So two races in a row, Alonso has points. Let's
keep it up. And that is it with the Rookie Report.
I guess we can move on to our best and worst.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Here's your best driver the day was Kimmy Antonelli.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
I knew it was, and that's why I had to change.
That was gonna be mine, but I changed it.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Uh. He got his first podium. He's a rookie. He
qualified P three, managed to hold onto P three. He
was defending really well against an oscar and eventually both
McLaren's bearing down on him. It was just really impressive,
and I'm like, good, good on you, Kimmy.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
I couldn't choose Kimmy because she did, but I chose
Max because everybody was giving him shit. Like it was
like everyone was like, well, Max, you're fucked because at
this point you've got so many points on your license,
you're bound to get another one because you're you. And
Max was like fuck you and fuck you and fuck
everybody and kept it clean.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yep, had a really solid weekend.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah, I had a good weekend. Kept it clean, told
some journalists off, which I enjoyed, and you know that
was it. Yeah, so go Max.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
So my biggest letdown of the weekend I kind of
had two that I could pick from. So I was
Linda Norris, Okay, I was.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Like, I only got one, pick your other one.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
So my I will go then with uh Ferrari's strategy.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
I was gonna be my other one, but I I
think I did them not too long ago, just fra.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, so I'll go with the Ferrari strategy. I mean,
I think initially they were trying to go for a
one stop, but then they called Charles in, but he's
on the radio like, I don't agree with this. Why
are you trying to pit me that I just told
you the tires are fine. I think Charles really was
(53:32):
still trying to make it a one stop, and Ferrari
decided that they were gonna make it a two and
then it just it was just the clown show again
of just Ferrari just not And I think we've talked
about last time when we're talking about the strategy struggles
and communication problems, where it's like, as a as a team,
(53:54):
when you're coming up with a strategy, you have to
take the driver's input into account. And yeah, okay, maybe
at that point in the race, the strategists we're seeing
something and the engineers were seeing something that Charles didn't
know about. I mean, but there does come a point
where if it happens so often, there's a breakdown in trust,
(54:16):
you know, with the driver with their team when it's
like if you are if your team is consistently and
making a trend and a habit of getting the strategy
calls wrong, even when you're question especially when you're questioning
them in the middle of them making the wrong choice,
there's a breakdown in trust there. And eventually, I would
think as a driver, you know, and up to now,
(54:39):
Charles has very much been a team player and a
you know, a Ferrari is my boss, and when my
boss says we do something, we do it. I can
give push back and tell them I don't think it's
a good idea. But at the end of the day,
if they still insist, it's like you got to do
what your boss tells you, right. But I think we
there may come a point when I mean, and we
saw Carlos, you know, over his time with Ferrari, was
(55:02):
not afraid to tell Ferrari, no, we're not doing that,
and it ended up with him being successful in the
race multiple times where it ended up that Carlos made
the right call, and he was not afraid to question
and then tell them no, I'm not doing that. Because
if you tell your driver to come in and then don't.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Come in, or or your driver goes I'm coming in.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, you gotta be ready. So it's ultimately down to
the driver if they're going to listen or not. And
I think that some drivers are more or less willing
to listen, depending on who they are in history with
the team. But I would not be surprised if I
think it could go either way With Charles. I think
he could get to a point where he's so frustrated
that he's just like, fuck it, I'm doing what I
want because y'all are clowns. Or I could also see
(55:44):
him being so ingrained into the Ferrari way that he
can't bring himself to go against them.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Ultimately, yeah, I'm hoping that's where Lewis will step in.
Lewis is the most successful Foremenalan driver there ever has been.
And at this point, did you sign him just for
like bells and whistles and look we and for like,
oh god, we've signed Lewis Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
No, you signed him.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
You signed Lewis fucking Hamilton, baby, like.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
For his expertise as a driver and to help you
change your team because at this point, what you're doing
it ain't working.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
So if you're going to bring on a seven time
world champion, I would imagine it's not just for the
extra money that it's gonna give you a bump up
your stock, you know, like you have to.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
That's like hiring the most decorated war general and then
not listening to them when it comes to strategy, Like
you literally have hired the most decorated Formula One driver.
If he's saying something's not working, take his word for it,
I think he knows what the fuck he's talking about.
And so I really I feel like it's I think
Lewis is gonna to go this fucking lay the hammer down.
(56:53):
I mean, Andre time.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
We talked about last time too, how when Lewis was
with Bono at Mercedes, they have developed a trust with
each other to where they actually respected each other's opinions,
and Bono would ask Louis, what do you want to
do what or would ask very targeted specific questions because
the answer to that then would dictate what they chose
to do with the strategy. It's like use your driver
(57:17):
to help you decide your strategy. Get information from them.
You can't just stare at the screens and what everyone
else is doing, like you need driver.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Input and I don't know. I mean, I know during
the course of the race there's a lot of radio
messages we don't hear. But that aside, I'm just like,
clearly there's a trend where when there's some whatever's happening
over all, that fitwall ain't working.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
Every time I hear Charles get on the radio and
say I don't think we should do this. I don't
understand why we're doing this. I don't understand that choice.
Every time he says that, that tells me that they're
not communicating with him and telling him why they're doing things. Yeah,
because if your driver doesn't understand why you're doing something.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Yeah I don't, it's not going well. My big I
sat down was Lando Norris, because he had the pace.
Should have just been smarter, and that's all. That's what
it was.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
He chose the wrong side of the track to go on.
He could have went left or right, and.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
He just was I think he was just getting antsy,
he was getting impatient. He made the wrong choice and
you know, he paid for it, so hopefully at the
end of the day, it's just it's something to learn from.
Won't happen again? Yep. Well, now that just leaves us
with our next race teaser, which I didn't fill out
the top of for round eleven, Una memento.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
It's the MSc Cruises Austrian Grand Prix. The circuit is
the Red Bull Ring. Thanks, So that's the only part
that I fell out.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Perfect, that's she's got it. So last year our main
race result was George Russell, Oscar Piastre and Carlos Science.
Speaker 1 (58:54):
And this is the same race. Where is this the
one where Lando and Max crashed out?
Speaker 2 (59:00):
Has to be because Max but yeah, because Max ended
up finishing fifth and then Lando was out of the
race complete legu Yeah.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
Yeah, so this is the one that uh, George scooped up.
He was just sitting in third watching all the action
unfold and he was like, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
And so they were. For the sprint race, our top
three finishers were Maxerstappen, Oscar Piastrian, Lando Norse Nuts.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
So some information about the Red Bull Ring. The first
GP was held in nineteen seventy. It is seventy one laps.
The circuit length is four point three one eight kilometers,
which equals about two point six miles. The race distance
is three hundred and six point four five two kilometers,
(59:45):
which is about one hundred and ninety miles. The lap
record was set by Carlos Science in twenty twenty at
a minute and five point six one nine seconds. It
has three drs zones and the red bull ring is
pretty short, but it has plenty of action. The first
half of the lap is all about power, with three
straits broken up by a pair of uphill right handers.
(01:00:07):
From there, the track flows downhill through a fast twisting section,
a roller coaster run capped off by the thrilling rint
Rin Corner, named after Austria's first Formula One champion. So
I clearly I said it two different ways. Hopefully one
of those was correct. So in my biggest thing anytime
I look at these is I just want to know
can I overtake here? Because I'm just trying to go
ahead and menually prepare for what I'm about to watch. Yes,
(01:00:30):
this is a track where you can overtake. It features
a combination of long straights and tight corners that create
opportunities for passing, especially at turn one and turn three,
not to mention three drs. So so hopefully this will
be a fun, action packed race. So begot it was
last year it was, so we shall see.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Very excited.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
But that about wraps it up.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah yeah, so, I guess do we want them to
leave anything in the comments for us?
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Let us know who your best and worst over the
weekend was. And I guess that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
We're talking to you next time, is it?
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Bye? Bye, mm hmm
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.