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July 12, 2025 65 mins
In this episode, we break down all the biggest headlines from the 2025 Formula 1 British Grand Prix! We discuss Nico Hülkenberg getting his first career podium after 238 races, the controversial safety car restart penalty that cost Oscar Piastri the race, and Lando Norris winning in front of his home crowd at Silverstone. 

Plus, we look at Lewis Hamilton’s solid fourth-place finish, the chaos caused by heavy rain and tire strategy gambles, rookie struggles in tough conditions, and what to expect at the next round in Spa!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Let's talk about Hiller. That'll make sense later.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm immaculately conceived.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
I don't know what to do. I swear I'm not stupid.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Take it or leave it? Sometimes you just want to
leave it.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Do I got to bar my mom's underwear. I'm bar
wing or underwear. You just yeah, mista lights, the dar
Jar beats. I'm not gonna edit it out. No, I
don't know. I guess I got. It's pretty great suck.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Why are you saying with a question mark clap?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Bitch?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
All right? Three? Two? What? Actually?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
And we're live?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm Inna and I'm Jessica, and this is why are
you yelling? Welcome back to another F one race review.
Today we are gonna be reviewing round twelve of the
twenty twenty five Formula one season the Qatar Airways British
Grand Prix.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Silver Stone. Okay, so before we jump into all the fun,
we can summarize our podium. We have Lando Norris winning
his homegrown pretty so good for him. We have Oscar
Piastres second, and to top it all off, we've gotten
Nico Hulkenberg.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Podium. Bitches, we were right?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
What did we say exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
What did we roll the cameras rewind, remind, rewind it
cut it back to last week.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
So I'm just like, fingers crossed.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
We have just another crazy race and we get a
Hulkeenberger or Alonzo podium.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
That would just I would die. I'm calling Silverstone. It's
gonna rain. It's gonna be a Lewis, Hamilton, Alonso and Hulkenberg,
and that's gonna be our That is a bold prediction.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
You're welcome. That was us. Look at us. We did that.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, we predicted it, We manifested it.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
We're psychic.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I don't know what else to say about it.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I ken't trying to tell people I'm psychic, yeah, and
they don't believe me. And for the proof exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
So everybody's saying I didn't see it coming, and I'm like, well,
we did play the tape, so yay.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
That was so exciting. I was crying.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I was like, oh my god, like honestly completely sorry,
sorry for lando, completely overshadowed everything. Yes, but before we
before we jump into us fangirling our lives out, we'll
just get to our constructor standings real quick. Oh my god, y'all,
no one's catching McLaren this is not gonna happen, Like
something catastrophic would have to happen at this point, Like,

(02:29):
I mean, how many more one twos do they need?
Like God, can y'all just stop for a minute, les,
I'm alls catch up for you one chill please or okay.
So our constructor standings are we have McLaren with four
hundred and sixty points, Ferrari with two hundred and twenty
two points, Mercedes with two hundred and ten points, Red

(02:51):
Bull with one hundred and seventy two points, Williams fifty
nine points, Sober with forty one points, Racing Bulls with
thirty six points, Aston Martin with thirty six points, Pass
with twenty nine points, in Alpine with nineteen points. Now
I just know because I had to edit our other
episode and this was one of the parts of the
audio I kept listening to. I do know that Salber

(03:12):
has in fact jumped up because it was Racing Bulls
behind Williams and now it's Salber behind Williams. I mean,
they've been killing it. So now our driver's standings, Oscar
past Street is still leading the championship. But Lando Norris,
he's I mean less than ten points.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Away.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oscar has two hundred and thirty four, Lando has two
hundred and twenty six, and I think for the most
part there's really been at least in the top six
no major movers. So we have Oscar, Lando, Max, George Russell,
Charles and Lewis.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
But now before we jump into our fun facts that
Anna loves and I love and we all love. We
had said in our last episode that if we get
and well actually we said if we get the whole
podium right, we're buying the lottery tickets, but honestly getting
one right.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
So that was a crazy podium prediction. It was the
fact that even one of them was correct exactly.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
So we have fought lottery tickets and we are just
going we're going to do them.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
We're gonna play a little scratch off scratchy scratch.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
And we are whatever we If either of us win anything,
we're just gonna split it. Yeah, so una memento.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
A few moments later, these things are annoying. Okay, so
how do you win? They'll fit your numbers up top.
To see any of your numbers to any of the
winning numbers, win prize shown for that number.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, okay, fine, don't't talk behind me truck behind.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah I didn't. I got a ticket. I got this said,
well that's something. Yeah, nope, we did not win. Well
we have to try again.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yep. All our luck ran out for Hulpenberg. Now it's
time to happen to our fun facts from Silverstone. Uh
Lander Norris is the thirteenth British driver to win the
British Grand Prix. Good for him.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh see, I was gonna say lucky number thirteen, but
actually I guess to normal people that's unlucky, but to
us it's lucky because it's tailor's number.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's the twenty fifth time that a British driver has
won at Silverstone in seventy five years of the World Championship.
What it's the what time? Twenty fifth? I'm like, how
does that make sense? He's the thirt Oh because multiple
British drivers have won. Okay, that makes more sense. I
was like, how is he the thirteenth driver to have

(05:38):
won it? But there have been twenty five wins by
a British driver because like one driver can win multiple times?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh Lewis, Yeah, I'm like, oh you mean for example,
for example, I'm like, oh, you mean Lewis, because he's
like won that thing like twelve eleven or twelve times
nine nine. Okay, yeah, he's got twelve podiums up, Yeah,
he's got Lewis has gotten twelve podiums at Silverstone in
a row, and he had nine wins total.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
He and I think this was a fun fact last time.
Maybe I don't remember, but he has won at Silverstone
more than any other Formula One driver has won it
any single track. So he's won there nine times. So
this was McLaren's first win at Silverstone since Lewis Hamilton
in two thousand and eight. Oh wow. Landon Norris has

(06:27):
reduced the championship gap to eight points behind Ascarpiat Street
and with pas Street finishing in P two, McLaren have
scored consecutive one twos in Austria and Great Britain and
this was McLaren's fifth one to two finish of twenty
twenty five, their most did any season in the twenty
first century. Danks wow, going to centuries now, it's good

(06:48):
Lord Ouch coming in P three for kick sober. Mister
Nico Hulkenberg has had the longest career in F one
history before schooling a first podium finish. He entered two
hundred and thirty eight Grand Prix over fifteen years before
scoring his first podium.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
You know what, we knew you could do it. We
were talking about it. We were talking about how he
is such a consistent, great driver. Honestly probably has to
do mostly what the teams he's been on. And look
at him and not only is it, like I'd like
to point out, not only did he get a podium,
he got it in a Salber and just for the record,
let it show he gained sixteen places.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
This is, I would say, the equivalent of, like, I
knowe Max had that phenomenal drive. Was it Brazil last year? Yeah,
where he literally started like last on the grid and
ended up winning the race. There was crazy rain, It
was nuts. This to me is an equivalent sort of
drive to that. What what Mico could do in that

(07:53):
sober with the rain. I mean to me, that's on
that same.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I find it impressive. I think the difference with Max
was he was there was multiple overtakes, I think I
think I think for the most part, Nico just kind
of came out and it just the strategy was perfect
and it worked and he was pushing and.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
It was great.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
But yeah, I mean it's phenomenal and people will be
talking about it forever. Yeah, and I'm like, god Silverstone
producing another just tear jerker.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Like a great Like I understand now why so many
people say it's their favorite or it's the one they
look forward to the most, because with the weather and
with the type of track that it is, it is
a perfect storm for chaos and for great racing and
for just unexpected results. Yeah. So I'm the the I've

(08:41):
only watched two British Grand PRIs so far, and last
year when Lewis won, and this year with Nico getting
the podium.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
I'm like, I've not been let down so far by
Silver show.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Nico's fixed and to join the wall. Yeah, well we'll
get him up here, don't worry. He'll join mister Hamilton
and I've got mister Leclair over here. This was the
first Sober podium finished since Japan twenty twelve, with Poba Yashi.
I cannot say his first name. I tried multiple times
since twenty twelve. Yeah, since Japan twenty twelve. Wow. Wow,

(09:17):
Even when Sober was Alfa Romeo. That means that too
even then, haven't got a podium since then. Go Holk,
go hawk go so Holgemberg is the first German to
finish on the podium since Sebastian Vettel at the twenty
twenty one Azerby John Grand Prix. He is the oldest
first time podium finisher at thirty seven years old since

(09:41):
George Folmer, who was thirty nine when he got his
first podium at the nineteen seventy three Spanish Grand Prix.
So Holkemberg is the oldest podium finisher since that.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Wow, Nico, Niko, Niko seeing all hisle like, oh my god,
all his team around him, and they were so happy.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Everybody was everyone, and then didn't have champagne.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
So then Mercedes and Aston Martin said don't worry Boot
and they came and they brought them champagne and they
were jumping around all happy with them, and I'm like,
it's this, this is beautiful.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
And the fact that like his teammate Gabrielle Bordoletto, who
DNF during the race, was like got on the radio,
was like I am so proud of you, was so
happy for you, and then was like the first one
to greet him, Like literally, he's like, I'll wait for
you at the podium. And then like as soon as
Nico got the car, Gabby was like, he like ran
right past Lando and ran straight a streak of green.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yep. That was precious. That was just awesome. But Gabby's
shown a lot of respect for Nico. Almost every interview,
He's like he talks about how Nico approaches the race,
things he hasn't thought about. And so I'm like, this
is a nice pairing. This is sweet.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
This is the way I feel like a rookie and
a veteran driver teammate pairing should be.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
This is how the relationship should be.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, I agree, this is how it should be. I
loved it.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
It was just precious. It was so cute. And then
did you see the video that his wife shared of
his little girl screaming. I was like, oh my gosh,
she's like toy. And then Kmagg's there, enemy's to lovers
what for real? I saw him in the garage and
was like, would not be something? Well, what was funny
is the when I I really I knew Kevin was
there because I saw a real hoss put out, because

(11:24):
so he because he was hanging out with Hoss and
then we're watching the race and I'm like, he's hanging
out with so he has to be there because of Nico. Yeah. Oh,
that's the only reason he would be in the Sober garage,
just because they literally went from stuck my balls, mate
to good job Besty.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's hysterical. So kick Soubert have jumped up to seventh
place in the constructors Championship after Nico's result. He started nineteenth,
the lowest ever starting position for a podium finisher in
Souber's thirty two year history.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Niko Nikko Hulkemberg.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Had spent one hundred and seventy seven laps in a
podium position across his career before this race. So at
some point during his fifteen year career he was in
running P one, P two or P three for one
hundred and seventy seven laps. And I know there are
people have mentioned over the last like several days later
a couple times where he was like almost had it

(12:19):
and then it.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Was like snatched from him.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Had a thing. It was like almost should have been,
but never was, and now now it.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Is and now there will be more You heard it here,
you get it here.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
This is one of many, one of many, my friend,
unless he suddenly is like I'm retiring.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Heck no, Now he's got to be more hungry. Yeah,
he's got to.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Be more hungry. So Holgenberg is the two hundred and
eighteenth driver to finish on the podium in F one
Championship history. Nick Oh does every stab Niko Big moving
on to Ferrari with P four. For Ferrari, Lewis Hamilton
tied his best Grand Prix result of the season for
the second race running. He cannot get out of P

(13:01):
four to save his life.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
This is okay. So here's the thing though, I am
like it was like a sacrifice because I'm like, if
you passed Nico, you ripped this from him again. But
I also don't want your streak to be taken from you.
It was it was so bitter sweet because it was
like so they it was one of too bitter that

(13:24):
one of these two things has got to give. When
we were watching the race, it's like, either Nico gets
his first podium or Lewis continues his podium streak at Silverstone.
But one of those things is not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I'm like, unless one of the spins out and I
just low cow. I was like, this'll do no offense,
please please, not because I'm a hater, but because for
the plot. It's for the plot and my mental health.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
So hopefully Lewis can maybe get a podium this season.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I don't know I was gonna win a race this season,
and He's gonna win it. When Lewis went, it's gonna
be like that race, And part of me is like,
because we still have Manza, mm hmm, because Charles won
that last year, and I'm like, what a better place
than Lewis Hamilton's first win with Ferrari than at Manza?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
You hear me?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Formula Gods? Do you hear me?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
That's my prediction. He has to or I'm going to cry.
As we mentioned a couple of times, Hamilton's run of
twelve consecutive podium finishes at Silverstone comes to an end.
That was the longest streak by any driver at any
circuit of podium finishes. So I don't even have words.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I was just sad.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, he was just struggling.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I mean, it's like, I feel like I know him
and Charles both hated the car.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Oh god, Charles just got super screwed.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Oh that start. I know that they were going for
a gamble because a couple other people did too, where
they decided to pit on the first lap under the
safety car.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well some people pitted right after the formation lap. Yeah,
and they were oh yeah, right, so they started from
the pit lane. That's what it was. It wasn't the
first lap. It was because they they ran the track
and they were like, oh yeah, this is good for slicks.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
It was not, No, it was not, and they gave
up their position. So Charles had qualified P six and
gave up his position to gamble and take the risk
on switching to different tires and getting off the terns
and it did not pay off like that. It just
all went downhill. That was like the first wrong call
and everything just sucked after that.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I don't think Charles and Silver so good along though,
because I'm pretty sure this is exactly where he finished
last year.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
He does not like this track. I don't really biased.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Do we have anything else to say about Louis Hamilton's race.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I don't know. I just feel like I still think
Lewis outperformed, but the car was able to. I think
that he It just shows him in this track because
I still think even in being with a brand new team,
completely different set up, different car, and and having all
those crazy conditions, you know, I still think that he

(16:05):
four is great. It's obviously not the storybook thing everybody wants,
but I'm like, if you actually look overall, I think
he's slowly climbing up I mean and the other because people,
it's like it basically at this point of Lewis isn't
on the podium, then everybody he's washed up and he's
asked and people are starting to have that attitude with

(16:25):
Max at times, which is insane, Like it is insane behavior.
But that being said, I'm like, truth be told, Louis
has been performing just fine, and I think it'll just
it'll just get better.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
So I mean four isn't terrible. No, it's just terrible
for Lewis Hamilton, but by his own standards.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, and you know he's not happy. You know, he's pissed.
He no way, no, how no man, no sir, Like
he is not happy.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
No, he's not. He he hates this car. He's like,
She's like, honestly, you can't wait for next year. He's like,
I'm going to be in the factory. I am actually
going to develop the car myself. But it's all right, Lewis,
I know it's gonna happen this season. You're gonna have
that moment. I can feel it. We just need for

(17:12):
both McLaren's to have an issue. They need to have
a bad weekend, and we need for Max and Lewis
to have a really good weekend. I would love for
them to have a weekend.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
I feel like as much h contention as there seems
to have been like between Max and Lewis since twenty
twenty one, I feel like they're okay. Now they're fine.
Like they're not besties, but I feel like they they're fine.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I think they respect each other, and I mean I
feel like it would be a fun podium like celebration.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Well yeah, but they have they have.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
A bunch of those together, and like, I don't know,
I think that Max was really nice. He was really
nice to Nico. He was really nice to Lewis.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
He's like, whata you thing.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
He's like, hey, good job, good job.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Nico said that after that, and I saw Max is
the first one that come up to him, tell him like,
you know, congratulations.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
He was super excited for him, and then even Red
Bull themselves like they posted him like they were really supportive.
But yeah, that's pretty much it with Lewis. It's not horrible,
it's just not what everybody wanted after last year. But
I think it's I think he's gonna have a big
moment this year still and it's gonna be like, all right,
there we go. It's gonna be the snapshot of what
we're fixing to get for next season. Fingers crossed.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Okay, so, speaking of mister Verstaffen, I called ready, mister,
mister mister verstapin, did you say mister Hamilton again or
I don't think you said? I would have caught it.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
I would have.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I would have caught it.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'd be like, how dare you the disrespect?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
After finishing fifth for Red Bull, Max Verstappen is now
sixty nine points behind the championship lead. You know what's
like in my head, Max is still gonna win. Like
I'm like that, like the race of the champions.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Championship in my head, in my head, Max is still
gonna somehow win and it's going to just.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Be I mean, okay, so he's only sixty nine points behind.
That's what three He would have to win three races
and the McLaren's would have to finish, would have to
not score points.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I think it's gonna be. Yeah, I don't see. I
don't I don't know that I see that scenario. But
I could see like bags ain't going down without a fight.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Oh no, clearly not with that. With his qualifying lap
that he pulled out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
That was nowhere. That was the most stressful, actually three
seconds of my life. I was on a high.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I was on a high because Lewis Hamilton was purple.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Purple, purple. He's getting it for I said, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
And then and then Max literally no one was not
even on anyone's radar, which why wouldn't he be. He's
Max Frickin' Verstaff and he should always be on your
radar because everyone's looking at Lewis because of Silverstone. And
then Max is like, I'm here, he was like shure.
But they did, they did say that they basically the
they did a different I think wing on the car

(20:02):
and yeah, and so they were trying to have it
be much higher like downforce effect for this track which
paid off and qualifying but really killed him in the race.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Was it more or less? I think it was because
it was I think it was like this if that's
it performed great on the straits, which I think because
you couldn't even see did you see that? Yeah, so
it was the corners that it was. I guess it
was effecting the downforce in the corners. Yeah, But on
the straits it was like, but there was a ghost
car lap between Oscar and Max and just seeing like
the difference, the difference on the straits, but really seeing

(20:36):
how it did the speed was gone in the corner
because I mean it was mard. I mean obviously it
all margins. It's very like we're talking tens of seconds here.
It's that was insane. But then yeah, Max crosses the line.
I'm like, I'm so happy. It's so sad at the
exact same time because like Max is like arguably probably
my number two. I'm like, if if I'm not, if
if Lew was ain't in the picture, I'm rooting for Max.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
In the post qualifying show for F one TV, they
showed a clip of the press box for Alex Jakes
and was it DC David Coulthard was I think up
there with him, But it was those two were in
the press box and they're given the commentary and calling
the qualifying and everything, and so they showed the shot
of them in the press box when Max was doing

(21:20):
his just like nuts qualifying lap and both of them
like DC stands up and it's just like dumb struck,
like what just happened?

Speaker 2 (21:27):
And Alex Jakes is like the He's like, I'm talking
about Lewis and Walter's back there first step. It was crazy.
That was actually insane, and it was poor Max because
it was such it was the perfect call for qualifying,
and it was like couldn't have been a worse call
once the once the race started, like once that when
the rain, even before like the in the Pretty Show,
they were talking to Christian Horner about it, and Christian's like,

(21:51):
so it was a gamble and I don't think it's
gonna pay off. I'm gonna be honest. That's pretty much.
That's exactly what he said. Quote still got P five. Yeah,
So I mean, wasn't terrible, no, And I mean and
that was with him spinning out, yeah, which was horrified.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I was like we have lots of spinning and over
the grass lawnmower moments, and just at one point I
was like, where did Charles go?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
He just disappreed.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I mean he just was like, fuck it, I'm done.
I was like, is he Oh? There he is? But yeah,
I was like, sir, He's like, I couldn't see that
was the water. No, it was bad.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
But you know he got like water in his visor.
Oh yeah, that's right, he said.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I just a icic.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I couldn't see anything. A big something was wrong with this.
Always water, always the water.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
My seat's filled with water, my helmets filled. Fuck. In
P six, Pierre Gasly scored Alpine's best result of the season.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I feel like Alpine is.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
It's sort of just eh.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I think that you know, could be regretting that Oconn
decision right about now.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, yeah, well okay, so o'conn was ready to be
done with that team.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I think, yeah, last year he was just like, let's
live it on and he I mean I think so far,
I'm like, think he made the right call with us.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
So yeah, Piers seems to be doing okay with Alpine.
I mean, even when the car isn't great, you know,
he has a couple of races every season where he
kind of manages to pull something out of it. So
Peer's doing Okay, Franco col Pinto not so much. So
we'll just keep it moving.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, we'll talk about frank In a little bit in
our rookie report.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Like for a second, there ain't much stuck about.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
No, which is this.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
One isn't well? I mean, I guess that's arguable anyway, Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Lan Stroll's P seven finish for Aston Martin was his
first top eight finish since the season's opening race in Australia.
Stroll ran his first laps in a podium position since
twenty twenty three. There was a minute there where he
was running P three and I was like, are we
about to get Stroll? And then you know the wrongs
in mart and that's not what I predicted. But as

(24:09):
soon as they enabled drs, because they if it gets
too if the visibility and the rain is too bad
and there's too much spray and standing water on the track,
they don't enable DRS because that's just dangerous. But as
soon as they enabled dr because I thought I was like,
he is really hold backing up the pack and holding
everybody up because he was almost like I want to
see almost like a minute behind. Yeah, he's in P

(24:32):
three running almost a minute behind P two. At this
point I'm like, we need a safety car, yeah, and
I'm like, they just can't pass them it. He's holding
everybody up. And then as soon as they enabled drs,
they wear he got like a double one one too
overtake and he's immediately lost two positions. He was our
second biggest mover though, Yeah, ten places, which again this
just goes to show I think we've talked before about

(24:52):
how like people like to shit on Lance Stroll a lot.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
But he's not a terrible driver.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
The thing is, none of these guys are terrible. Child.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
You have to have a super license. You have to like,
you can't just go Nobody can just look at you
and go, I want you in my Formula one card
because that's extremely dangerous.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah. Alex Alvin, driving for Williams, scored points at Silverstone
for the third consecutive season with his P eight result.
At least he did not DNF this time, because my
boy was struggling for a minute.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
I like Alex a lot.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
He's probably like in my top five drivers of like
ones that I root for, because you know, we all
have our favorite and then there's your little group of
like second favorites. So it's like all the ones that
you're like checking for throughout the race and you're like
happy when they do well and stuff. And so Alex
is in my group of like top five that I'm
like checking for to see how he's going. Yeah, like,

(25:46):
so good on him. I'm glad that he got to
actually drive and race and race this time. Yeah, exactly.
With George Russell in P ten and kimiy Antonelli retiring,
Mercedes missed the podium at Silverstone for the first time
since twenty twelve. Kimmi Incinnelli's DNF was his fourth retirement
in the last six races.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I'm like, what's going on.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
He's a rookie, That's what's going on.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
There's so many rookies our next one fact, there were
eight constructors in the points positions, tying the highest number
so far this season, so there were eight different constructors
at scored points this round. Charles Leclaire, driving for Ferrari,
finished outside the points for the first time this season
in P fourteen. He was disqualified from fifth place in China.

(26:33):
So yeah, that was the only other time he didn't
score points. But uh yeah, this was abysmal, an abysmal
race for Charles. He's my guy, he's my number one,
and he did. He's not been number one lately. It's
a really horrible feeling.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, it kind of sucks.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
The they, like we mentioned a little earlier, they kind
of just screwed him with the with the first call
he had qualified P six. They decided that after the
formation laft they wanted to switch from the intermediate is
inter intermediate inters inters is the intermediate inter interwet intermediate
wet inter wet inter something. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I would be curious to know if that was Charles's
call or if that was like Ferrari's call, because it
happened during the formation lap, because I didn't hear the
radio messages to be like, hey it's it's I want
to go ahead and take the gamble, Like, I don't
know whose call that was, because that seemed more that
didn't seem like something that they had planned for as
much as they're like, go fill out the track and
then what do you I mean, I'm sure they had

(27:33):
talked about the gamble, but like I would, I would
hope that they're going to clearly leave that up to
Charles at the end. I would, I would hope, but
maybe not.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Ye, Well, I mean if he at the end of
the day. When the track is in such mixed conditions
over the course of a race, there is an extent
that you have to rely on the driver to tell
you what because they know how these tires, They more
or less know how they're going to handle in different
parts of the track. So the engineers kind of people
responsible for strategy kind of have to rely on the

(28:02):
driver's feedback. I mean I could hear multiple times when
they were playing radio messages over the race where several
different drivers and engineers were checking with each other, Like
the engineers would be like, well, how's what are track conditions?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Like what are you thinking?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
And I think I think they asked Louis at one
point during the race, and he's like, because it had
stopped raining and they weren't expecting more rain, and he
was like, in the next like ten to twenty laps
is going to be the crossover And he called it
because like as soon as they play that radio message,
which again I don't know if they played it in
real time. I'm sure there was a delay, but pretty

(28:36):
soon after that, Alonso was the first of several people
to jump onto the slicks. Was not the right call,
not yet. It was a little too early. And I
laughed at George Russell's radio message because he basically they
were asking him, you know, do you think it's there.
He was checking with his engineers, like do we think

(28:57):
it's time to switch to the slick tires, and George's like,
I don't know, it depends on how brave we're feeling.
And then his engineer comes back and says, brave but
not suicide. Yeah. Yeah, I was like get it, yes
with the radio sass, I love it. Yeah, that was Yeah.
So Charles was a victim of the switching to the

(29:21):
slicks during the formation lap and then everything was just
fucked from there for his race. Yeah, then you had
to pit again. Yeah, because there were several times where
when you have mixed conditions like that, it almost all
comes down to there's a right time to change the
tire over and you got to nail when it's the
right time, and some people did nail it, and some people,

(29:44):
like Charles did not. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
So Yeah, we'll get him next time, Baby, We'll get him.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Don't worry. It's okay, it's all right, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
So Yuki Sonoda driving for Red Bull, came in p. Fifteen.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
He was the last classified finisher for the second consecutive race.
Because we had so many DNFs this race, and I
think all of them more are rookies. Was it only
the rookies that dnf'd Yeah, out, so five DNFs, which
is a lot. I wonder what the most DNFs in

(30:19):
a race has been. I'm not gonna go look it up.
I'm just throwing in the question out there. If anybody
wants to answer it, please let me know. Yeah, I
don't know, but that was.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
It was just it was rookie after rookie or like the.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Rookie report will be short.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yes, uh it was.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
And then Frank couldn't even start. So yeah, the rookies
were just struggling. Which is interesting because going into this round,
and I mean going even into this leg of sort
of the calendar when we're more in Europe at more
of these tracks that a lot of these rookies would
have driven on in the lower formulas. Silverstone is one

(30:54):
of those tracks. Pretty much, if you're in F one
and have made it that far, you have driven at
silver Stone at some other.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Point in your driving career.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, so almost everyone should have driven at this track
at some point. Oh yeah, yeah. And so going into
this race, we had higher expectations for our rookies because
usually if you've driven at a track before, you're typically
going to do a little better than a track you've
never been at or you know, so we.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Would assume in theory.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
I don't know if there's a statistical fact that backs
it up, but in theory, that should be how it goes. Yeah,
and it's not. The rookies don't do well in the
rain well, and.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I think it's also it's a completely different car than
what they have driven like the rain, in the rain
and at this track. That's right, So it's like there,
they may have driven in the rain in a Formula
two car, but a Formula two car and Formula one
car are so different that it's like the tires are different,
how the car set up is different, and the technology
is different, how powerful it is is different. So I

(31:51):
just think that, you know, everybody was just expecting probably
a little too much, like we all were probably expecting
a little too much and it was just and I
also but I think that just goes to show like
experience matters, not saying a rookie can't perform well and
not saying they all didn't learn something that they'll take
with them, because you're gonna have you have to make mistakes.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
No one's perfect.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Everybody has had mistakes in their rookie season and so
on and so forth.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
But it's just.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
That's you see some conditions like that and you go,
I am glad that my driver's been.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Here a minute. There are were some moments during the
race where you look at like the onboards. I like
when they switch to the shot, the onboard shot because
they have a little camera that's in the helmet that's
right around like the driver's like eyeline. Yeah, so you
can kind of see through their helmet what they're seeing
and the little camera that's right there, and the amount

(32:43):
of water, the amount spray. Like there was one shot
I forget we were on board with somebody on the
broadcast and you could barely see the blinking, like two
blinking lights of the car ahead of them, like barely.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
And there's they're even like uh, because at one point
the safe I think the safety card did come out
because of the rain, I want to say probably, I think,
just to slow everybody down. Yeah, because the rain was
so heavy and there was so much standing water on
the track that like they just couldn't race at full
speed it's too dangerous. But like it was, even driving

(33:19):
behind a safety card, they're still going way faster than
like what you or I would drive in that amount
of rain, was standing water on the road, like I
would be crawling at thirty miles an hour, they were
going way faster than that. Even even when they're going slow,
they're still going fast, yeah, exactly. And so it was
just nuts. I mean, there's certain there's a couple of
I'm sure some of y'all have seen online some of

(33:40):
the photos from this race where like there's one shot
I'm pretty sure it's Max and the Red Bull and
he is just surrounded and white. It's just like a
mist yeah, all around him, Like it looked like it
looks like he's floating in fog almost like it is crazy. Yeah,
how poor the visibility is. So going into the last
of our fun facts, we're gonna go over our DNFs

(34:00):
are all rookie DNFs aside from our veteran rookie like
you mentioned Alonso and Alver there men. Yeah, he was
the only other rookie lab did not DNF. So getting
into our rookie DNFs, so we have Isaac Hajar driving
for Racing Bulls. He dnf' it was his first official

(34:21):
retirement from a Grand Prix. He Australia was a DNS
because he crashed on the formation lap, so he did
not start the race. Same it was a DNS for
Franco Colapinto. He did the formation lap and then he

(34:41):
was no. He he did the formation lap and then
he was one of the cars that jumped into.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
The pit lane.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Was he not? Remember because during the formation lap several
drivers drum drove into the pit to go swap from
ents to slicks. I'm pretty sure Colopindo was one of those.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Okay, yeah he might have been, because it looks like
his zero lap is with a hard tire, but it's sticker,
it's like white. Yeah, so yeah he might have been.
Yeah he could.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Because I remember people mentioning that, like there was so
much craziness going on at the start of the race
that it took a while for anyone to notice that
he didn't start the race.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
He went into the pit lane and then never came out.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. So he was the So he
had a DNS this race. Another DNF was Liam Lawson.
It was the first time he's ever retired on the
first lap of a Grand Prix. He retired on lap
one of the sprint in Qatar in twenty twenty three,
so this was the first Grand Prix retirement in lap one. Yeah,

(35:41):
bless it. Racing Bulls saw both cars out by lap nineteen,
their first double DNF since China of last year, So
that sucks for them. Yeah yeah, after their their double points.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah then yeah, just sucks.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Man highs or highs and the lows are lows, so
low bro So kicks auburs. Gabrielle Bordeletto also retired, meaning
the two drivers with career best finishes the last Grand
Prix in Austria. Bordeletto and Liam Lawson had career best
finishes in Austria, so both of them were both out
before the end.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Of lap six this time around.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, and it.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Just it really sucks and that concludes our finex. So
the only thing that I really wanted to talk about
before we wrap it up. Some was Oscar's penalty and
the reaction to it and how he felt about it.
So Oscar was, this was a safety car restart. The

(36:44):
safety car goes in and Oscar slams on breaks right,
and I'm like, he ractically almost came to a complete stop.
I mean, even like without knowing any of the rules,
without knowing any of that. When I watched it, I
was like, what the fuck, Like, I've never seen that.
I mean, I've seen them stop. I've seen them slow

(37:06):
down to back up the pack so then they can
take off right, But I've never seen that. And I
mean and then Max like passes him and like almost
they was really lucky it was Max behind him and
not like a rookie, because it would have been like
if it was Isaac Gune, because you couldn't you couldn't
see it's still raining, even when the safety car goes in,
it's still raining. And so the Stewart, like Max is,

(37:27):
he gets over the radio and he's like, what the
fuck did he just do that for? And so then
they decide, the Stewart's decide to give him a ten
second penalty. And there was a lot of debate. You know,
at the time, the commentators for FOE TV seemed to
think that the penalty was very extreme because you know,

(37:51):
they were like, I mean, you're allowed to do that
during the safety car, You're allowed to hit the brakes.
But I'm like, he basically stopped though for a moment
in like extremely dangerous conditions. I don't know the rules,
but from what I've been seeing online, like that was
sort of what the penalty was. It wasn't like everyone said,
why not a five second but I don't know. But anyway,

(38:14):
so that being said, Oscar then he does I think
he serves it in the pit lane later and so
that you know, Lando's nat that's when he becomes first
and whatever. But Oscar was so pissed that at one
point over the radio, he pretty much is like, we
need like that wasn't my following, Like I know you're
gonna say no, but we should swap positions because like

(38:35):
it was, it was my race.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
So basically at that point, when Oscar serving his penalty,
everything that follows and then land then out right after
that that was another thing.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
So like he's stopped, like the safety card goes in
Oscar's restarting slams on breaks, Max passes him, but then
like immediately slows down. He takes off, and then Max
is over the radio and as he's like over the radio,
he basically spent himself out or he spins out because
of the weather and things like that. And that was
another thing they said that you might they may even

(39:06):
though you're not supposed to take it into consideration.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
They do. But anyway, that was it. Yeah, I was gonna.
I was starting to say that Basically, once Oscar serves
his ten second penalty during his pit stop, Lando ends
up ahead of him, and then that's when Oscar gets
on the radio and is asking the team like, I
know that you think also think that this penalty was

(39:30):
unfair and if that's the case, like you need to
swap me and Lando back and let us race because
and they were like, nah, that the only way that
would have happened is if there was a risk of
another team finishing like ahead of them or taking the leadership,
taking the lead and like the driver championship or were

(39:53):
so not even in that scenario, that's all shortly happened.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Lando, like Oscar's penalty had nothing to do with Lando
nothing at all. That's not his penalty. He didn't make
you slam on brakes, and that's not his fault, and honestly,
that's your fault.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
In Oscar's defense, he said that he had been doing
that same thing the whole race up to that point
behind the safety car, because you're allowed as the leader
to break and keep your distance from the safety car,
so you can then generate heat in your tires. You're
allowed to do that. And so in his defense someone
on planet f one dot com showed that they took

(40:30):
they compared the two safety car restarts where Oscar was
in the lead, one on lap seventeen and the other
on lap twenty one, which is when he got the penalty,
and so they compared the speed he was going before
he hit the brakes, the speed he was at when
he before accelerating again after hitting the brakes, and then
the distance over which he hit the brakes and decelerated,

(40:55):
and they said they was comparable. So they on lap
seventeen he slowed down from too and is all in
kilometers per hour, so he slowed down from two oh
eight to fifty, and then in lap twenty one he
slowed down from two seventeen to.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Fifty two, so those are comparable.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
And the distance the first time was over one hundred
and sixty meters, the second time was one hundred and
forty meters, so those are comparable. I mean, he wasn't
doing something that he hadn't. He maintained I've been doing
this the whole race, and suddenly now it's a problem.
The difference was Max Verstappen speed at the moment when

(41:33):
that hitting the brake happen behind the safety car on
the restart. So Max's telemetry shows that during the second restart,
Max was traveling significantly faster at the point when Oscar
started breaking compared to the first restart, so he's just
going faster. On top of that, it's clear that Max
reacted later the second time around, although the track conditions
were largely the same. Perhaps on lap twenty one, Max

(41:55):
didn't have as clear of review of Piastre ahead of
him and wasn't able to like judge that he was
slowing down, and so he may have reacted later, which
briefly then puts him ahead of Oscar, and then that's
what causes like bunching up, and then they're like what's
going on, and it says if we look at this
purely from Oscar's perspective, there was no clear reason for
a penalty. He did exactly what he had done before.

(42:17):
Once he saw the safety car lights go out, he
applied the brakes to crete space in front of him
before accelerating for the restart. What changed in the scenario
was the driver behind, in this case, Max, he found
himself closer to a potential incident. Whether that fact or
perhaps Max losing control of his car immediately after the restart,
influences Stewart's decision is something we simply can't know.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
There was I don't know if you heard in the
cool down room either Oscar was complaining about it and
then Niko's like, yeah, but I mean it did affect
like everybody, like we almost all hit it, Like he
was like, He's like, we almost like literally all hit
each other when he did that, and was just and
I don't know if it was like I don't know
track condition wise, if it, because I don't even think
it's hard to say because it's like where were they

(42:56):
on the track during what lap seventeen and twenty one
was at the same area.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
I'm probably not.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
I'm just assuming like it like that would just be
like kind of a big coincidence if it was, like,
was there help was the visit? What was the actual
visibility between a lap seventeen from the cars behind versus
twenty one? I'm like, cause, I mean we were watching
that just I'm it just seemed so dramatic. It just
seemed like because even before a penalty, I was like,

(43:22):
holy fuck, Yeah, you like stopped and I was like,
what do you now? I'm not even in a car,
And I'm like can anybody even see you?

Speaker 1 (43:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I just am like, you know to me.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
So the penalty that was applied, they said it was
because he was driving erratically. You're allowed to stop and
go or hit the brakes and slow down and then
speed up behind a safety car as the lead car,
especially on a restart, you had the right to do that. However,
if it's determined that you're driving erradically, which would be
like sudden stop and goes in a manner that's like
not safe, that could then that's when the penalty comes in.

(43:52):
And they deemed that it wasn't safe that time. Yeah,
for whatever reason. Now, Max, when asked about it after
the fact, when he was basically like, yeah, I don't
know why he was given a ten second penalty. When
this happened at you know, a prior race and it
was a different driver ahead of me, He's like, it's
weird that it's happened to me. It's one of those

(44:13):
like if that had a nickel for every time this
happened to me, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot,
but it's strange that it's happened twice, you know exactly,
Yeah that was But Max basically was like a he
was kind of implying, is there a little bias here?
Or like, why was it applied in one scenario and

(44:34):
yeah in another?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Can't we don't they put out reports as to why
and why they felt that way.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
They put out their reasoning.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, I haven't looked up all that to see, but
I'm like, you know, but really what I've I mean,
so that just happened, right. I don't really have an
opinion about it one way or another because I'm not
somebody who has to judge those things. But the thing
that irritated me was at the podium, everybody's mad, and
I'm like this is Nico's podium. Suck it up, damn it,

(45:02):
because you know you're gonna get another podium. You know
you're gonna proably put another race like this. Just be honest,
it's it's it's you versus Lando at this point, and
just suck it up for five minutes and celebrate somebody
who you would what was a few races ago. He
was like, oh wow, I didn't know, but like Hulk
of Nko went six in a celeber like in one

(45:23):
of his post race interviews. So it's like, you've clearly
showed excitement for Nico before, so suck it up for
five minutes, spray the man with champagne and act happy
quick being brats?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Are we?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I feel like this is all aimed toward Oscar no
I said, I'd tell about the McLaren boys. Why was
all of them?

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Oh? All of them? I'm like, Landa wasn't sad or mad.
He was very happy and emotional and crying. He's the
only one that well, yeah, he's the only one. There
was a video later where he did spray Nico and
I'm like, Oscar, I get it being mad, but I
need you just suck it up for five minutes because
everyone else is really excited and your energy, no one's energy,
the energy is not match it. How everybody else is

(46:01):
feeling right now in the podent's kind of sour milk. Listen,
I get it. Like the thing is, you're damned if
you do and damned if you don't, sort of, because
everyone wants to talk about how Oscar's basically like a
robot and he has no emotions and is really good
at controlling his emotions, and god forbid, he'd be a
human and expresses emotions once and it's not how you
want him to.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Express So he expresses emotions, but he could, so you
could how express you can express your emotions and also
suck it up for five minutes and keep expressing your
emotions to like the people that are asking you about them.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I'm like, listen, I am, I am full If you
want to be a brat about it, be a brad
about it, like, because listen, if that was me in
that scenario, all I'm thinking about is how I just
got screwed out of the wind and I'm pissed about
it and fulky, and I'm a brat sorry about it.

(46:53):
That's all I'm thinking about I'm like, you know what,
But to be fair, I get over things pretty quickly.
So between like getting out of a car and then
getting to the podium, there's a solid like twenty to
thirty minutes between when that happens. I probably would have
like been able to suck it up enough to be like,
it's okay, that's what I'm like.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I'm not saying it is that. I'm saying it just
for just for a few minutes, suck it up. This
is this and that the other thing. It's like, I
would get it if it's like, okay, somebody who's been
on the podium a hundred times, Like it's not. This
isn't an new experience for them. You know, it was
such a new experience for Nico. He didn't even bring
his helmet in the cold on rum Orlando had to
bring it in form because he didn't know he had
to bring it. So, like, this is such a big

(47:35):
moment for this guy, can you suck it up for
five minutes and like let the moment be fun and
then go back to being pissed off, Like, no one's
I'm not saying it'll be pissed off.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I don't think it before. I don't think it's that
big of a deal. I'm like, I get it, it
gave me the ick. If it's sucky that everything played
out in that way, but I'm also like, it is
what it is, Like the dude didn't spray Champagne on somebody,
and now suddenly he's the anti Christ, Like Jesus.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I don't think any I mean, I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying gave me the ick. I'm just like, well,
that's kind of lame. It would have been nice to
see like a bunch of excitement for Nico because it
was annoying to feel a certain way and then to
not see that same feeling on the podium for him,
where it's like I had more fun watching him and
his team dance around and being excited than I got

(48:22):
to enjoy really him on the podium because it was
just like Niko's like, I'm here, and then McLaren boys
are just like spraying themselves and then Oscar Oscar sorry
Lando spraised him like Nico for like two seconds, and
I'm like this. It was like I was like, oh,
well that was kind of a letdown. That wasn't as
exciting as I was hoping it was gonna because it
was just like, I don't know, I'm not saying he's
Antichrist so you can have all the feelings he wants

(48:43):
in the world.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I don't think it's a horrible person. I'm just I'm like, eh,
that was kind of lame.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
It just feels like really shitty to me that everyone
is piling all this.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
It feels like blame.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
They're like, you're it's it's Oscar's fault that the podium
wasn't the didn't live up to the vibe everyone else
wanted it to, because that's what all the criticism I've
seen is. And it's like, well, yeah, he had a
shitty race, but like you just because people don't react
the way you want them to, Like people are mean online,

(49:16):
Like almost everything in my feed was like how dare
they not sprain Ego with champagne and but but but
and like it's oh, every single part, like everything that
you just verbalized was my entire feet.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Oh yeah, I mean that's everything I saw, and I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
And it's it's annoying to see that over and over
and over again and be like, bruh, can y'all chill out,
it's champagne, it's a podium.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Calm the fuck down. I'm like, I'm not gonna go
and make a post about it, but but a lot
of people, but I don't. A lot of people did.
But I don't necessarily disagree with the criticism of like
I was. I'm not gonna sit here and say he's
a horrible person and that he's the anti Christ and
that everything's his fault. But I'm like, I mean, the
vibe was sort of not what I was hoping for,
and I mean it definitely was probably because Oscar wasn't

(50:01):
feeling the vibe. That's not necessarily I'm not saying anything
bad about him. I mean, that's just what it was.
So I mean, I don't think he deserves to be
attacked online repeatedly about it. But I also don't disagree
that it happened.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
It's like, I think two things can be true. I
think you ruined. I think he ruined the vibe, And
I don't think he's a horrible person either. Like, not
everybody has a great day, and that's fine.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
I just was like someone who has been accused of
ruining the vibe because I'm in a braddy sulky mood.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
I sympathize with Oscar, but not I mean, people are
built different, That's okay.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I'm like, I'm defending him with my with my life.
I'm like, no, it's not his fault because it wouldn't
be my fault. It would be your fault. But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
People are different, that's fine. But I mean, uh what
there was something else? Oh, but I did defend Oscar
though in the I guess it was one of the
press conferences after the race where he's like, clearly it's
been a little while since the podium, and he asked Niko,
He's like, so how Basically he goes, how does it
feel to like you finally get your podium and your

(51:13):
trophies like a Lego trophy?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I thought it was funny.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
I didn't think that because anything towards an Eco. No,
it was towards that. I thought that was towards like
the fucking trophies being did damn Legos?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yes, it was because I had that same thought because literally,
when Nico went to pick up his trophy on the podium,
he's like you can see him like being like it's
part of it, like comes off or whatever the bottom
he like sticks it back when he's like, what is
this legos It's fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
So here's yeah, here's the other thing. Why the fuck
is that?

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Why?

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Because okay, let's just if when you're designing these trophies, right,
Let's be honest, we all were kind of expecting Lewis
to get a podium. It was in the plot. It was,
it was pre written. We were all like kind of
leaning towards it. So you're telling me, low key, you
were designing those trophies with that in the back of
your mind, and you were gonna hand Lewis Hamilton a

(51:59):
fuck lego trophy if he got on the goddamn podium.
What the fuck are you talking about? There's some lay
mass shit.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Who the I know.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
I want my fucking gold. They don't silver whatever, goddamn trophy.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
They don't get to keep their trophies anyway, it goes
back to the factory, like wherever their headquarters are.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
I'm I'm keeping my fucking lego trophy. Goddamn it. And
because Nico's like, my daughter can play with it.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
But that being said, did I will say he handled it?
Nico handled that well. Was just like, yeah, just look
on the positive side. But I think Oscar, I don't
think he was trying to be like bitchy or me
because he was in a bad mood. I think he
was making a joke. Yeah, I tore again toward the trophy.
Toward the trophy. Ye, yes, I agree. I didn't. I
didn't take that.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I'm taking that as he's I took it as he's
recognizing this is Miko's podium. It's his first podium, you know,
everyone's excited. Kind of sucks that the trophy's legos though, huh.
And he's also just making a dig like why the
fuck are the trophy's lego? That was not a dig
at Miko whatsoever. But it's just one of those things
that people like to pile on and pile on. And

(53:03):
I said that I am saying because I literally said,
watch it because everybody loves Oscar.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
What was it like? Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Probably at the start I was like, watch out because
when people love you this much, it means they can
hate you this much too. And all it took was that,
which I'm like, listen, I think he was a brat,
That's okay. He's a human being. It was lame. Honestly,
he might look at it one day and go, yeah,
that might have been a little lame. But either way, whatever,

(53:33):
I don't think he's the Antichrist for it. That's pretty
much it though for me, like I was like the highlights,
everybody crashed, All the rookies crashed, but like R two, Yeah,
all right, this will be a short rookie report because
almost all of them didn't finish the race. So Kimmy Antonelli,
he qualified seven, He did not finish the race. He

(53:57):
has a OR. He had a DNF, so zero points.
Despite qualifying seventh, Antonelli started tenth due to a three
place grid penalty for a collision in the previous race.
He made an early switch to slicks, but a poorly
timed virtual safety car left him unable to build tied
temperature and cost him pace as the track dried. When
the rain returned, he pitted again for inters, dropping further
down the order. His race ended after Hajar, struggling with

(54:20):
visibility in the spray, collided with him. Antonelli tried to
continue but retired due to diffuser damage. Isaac Kajar he
qualified thirteenth. He did not finish the race. He has
a DNF so zero points. Hajar pitted for slicks at
the end of the formation lap, but quickly lost ground
as the rain returned. With tire temperatures dropping behind the

(54:41):
safety car and visibility nearly zero, he collided with Antonelle
after being caught out in the spray. The contact ended
his race immediately, marking Racing Bulls first double DNF for
this season. Franco Colopinto he qualified twentieth and he did
not even start the race, so he has a d
NN yes, so zero points. Qualapinto's race ended before it

(55:04):
began after his car stalled in the pit box where
he was starting due to an overnight power unit change.
Despite efforts to restart, the issue couldn't be resolved, forcing
a DNS on a day that offered plenty of opportunity
to move forward through the field, so that was unfortunate
for him. Ali Bharman one of our only rookies to
finish the race. He qualified eighth. He finished eleventh, so

(55:27):
zero points. Despite qualifying eighth, Barman started eighteenth after receiving
a ten place grid penalty for a red flag infringement
in FP three. If you need reminding he was pretty
much going into the pit. I think he was practicing
like going into the pit and then slowing down like
as you would in a race, and he lost control
of the car and crashed in the pit lane, which

(55:47):
he shouldn't have been doing under a red flag.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
So that was why he was penalized. He's been having
issues with like technical stuff, like following the rules under
certain flags and stuff. Yeah, so let's get refreshed on that.
Mm hmm. Olly.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
He switched to slicks at the end of the formation lap,
but with rain arriving soon after, it proved to be
the wrong call. His race went from bad to worse
after being spun by Yuki Sonoda and later colliding with
Oconn in a double spin. Even so, he recovered to
p eleven and was within drs range of the points,
showing strong pace in difficult conditions. So I mean, oh,

(56:24):
you get him next time, olly. Gabrielle Bordoletto, he qualified seventeenth.
He did not finish the race, so he has a
DNF so zero points. Bordoletto switched to mediums at the
end of the formation lap, banking on the track drying quickly,
but as rain fell he lost grip, spun off and
later retired with rear wing damage. A tough end to
a challenging weekend, but part of the learning curve in.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
His rookie campaign.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
So it seems like almost all the rookies so far
have pretty much made the wrong call. At the start
of the race. Liam Lawson qualified sixteenth. He did not finish.
He also has a DNF SO zero point. Lawson's race
ended on the opening lap after contact with Oconn in
a first lap racing incident. He had made a strong
start and was on the right tire strategy, but the

(57:09):
early collision brought out the first virtual safety cart and
cut short what could have been a promising race because
of the mixed conditions. Oh well, Fernando Alonso qualified night.
He finished ninth, so two points, so Fernando is our
only rookie that gained or that got points. Alonso lost
ground when the rain first hit, despite following the same

(57:31):
strategy as the front runners. Later, he was the first
to gamble on slicks after the second downpour, but it
was too soon it cost him time. He managed to
recover to the points, but he felt it was a
missed opportunity in a chaotic race. This is his fourth
consecutive points finished this season. So that's it. That was
short and simple and sweet. Pretty much most of them

(57:52):
didn't finish, so our best and worst segment. My driver
of the day's Nigo Hookinberg. That's mine too. I'm on
the uhh, I think we're game at this point. It's
self explanatory. We've already talked about it multiple times. I mean,
it's just not only did he get his first podium,
he had the most gains, gaining sixteen places, starting nineteenth

(58:13):
and ending up third. Is just couldn't have written it
better Cinema.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
My biggest letdown was all the rookies, all of them,
every single one. We got no points.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
We got all the dns's and the DNFs.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
They just sucked. This was not the rookies round this
go around. So yeah, biggest letdown.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
My biggest letdown was Lewis Hamilton. Not him, but what
he didn't get because I wanted it for him so bad.
That was just it was disappointing. And when I say disappointed,
obviously not I'm not disappointed in him. It's just like
it sucks to see somebody so celebrated at a place
and everybody's so excited for him, and it just sucked.

(58:56):
But I'm glad we got Nico on the podium. But
at what cost? At what cost? So moving on to
our next race teaser Listen, I'm very excited for this
one because I love this track we are. We're going
into round thirteen at Circuit de Spa and I can't
say the last part, but I'm just you know what
SPA is.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Circuit de Spa, Frankechamp, thank you, also.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Known as the Belgian GP. Last year's podium was Lewis, Hamilton,
Oscar Piastre and Charles Leclair. This was the race that
George Russell did a one stop on and he finished
it and it was magical, but it turns out the
car was too light and so he was disqualified, which
was why Lewis is the winner.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
He inherited.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
He inherited first, yes after ironically, I remember him being
very pissed off about the tire strategy because he's like, well,
why didn't I do a one staff? And then Bon
was like shut up and then he goes, oh, just kidding.
But so here are some track stats for Spa. The
first GP was in nineteen fifty it is forty four laps.

(01:00:03):
The circuit length is about I've rounded, so it's about
seven kilometers, which is about four point four miles. The
race distance is about three hundred and eight kilometers, which
is about one hundred and ninety one point four miles.
The race lap record so set in race, was by
Sergio Perez in twenty twenty four at a minute and

(01:00:24):
forty four point seven oh one seconds. The qualifying lap
record was set by Lewis Hamilton in twenty twenty at
a minute and forty one point two five to two seconds,
and it has two drs zones, so a little bit
about the track. It is one of the most iconic
circuits in motorsport, I mean just across all different series,
I mean Orouge in general. Like the elevation is insane.

(01:00:49):
It's just super iconic and most drivers love it because
it's fast and it's really flowy. It has long straights
and technical corners and it really tests the car and
the driver. If it's dry, they can push right to
the edge, but that's a big if because spa size
in the crazy Belgian weather often means it can be

(01:01:09):
raining on one part of the track and dry on another,
so grip can vary massively from corner to corner. So
it's the track is so big that it could be
raining on this side and not this side. So yeah,
and some fun facts about SPA the longest. It is
the longest track on the F one calendar. Like we said,
it's about seven kilometers per lap. It also has the

(01:01:31):
biggest elevation change on the calendar, over one hundred meters
from lowest to highest point. And the biggest question of all,
can we overtake here?

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
SPA is generally considered a good track for overtaking in
Formula one. Its layout features long straights and challenging corners,
and it provides ample opportunities for drivers to make passing moves.
So it will be fine. Spa is like so many
people's favorite track. It's one of the ones everybody's like.
It should never leave the calendar. Everybody loves it, so
I think it'll be a fun race. Well that about

(01:02:02):
wraps that up. Yep. So it'll be a few weeks
before we have another race review because so we have
a bit of a break.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
But be on the lookout for our F one the
movie review. Yes, that will be coming out after this
episode drops soon after.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Yes, hopefully it's a long conversation and yeah, it's a lot,
but it'll be out soon. Yeah. So that crazy predictions
for SPA.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Oh Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
So we're now, since we are clearly psychic and we
predicted Nikol Holkberg on the podium, we are going to
do absolutely insane predictions every race because we think it's hysterical.
So what are your crazy predictions? And honestly, even if
you just get one right, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
That's fine. Okay, my crazy podium, not SPA, would be
I'm feeling I'm feeling either a Pierre Ghastly or an
stemont Ocon. I'm feeling one of them on a podium.
Name three, Name three, Okay, Okay. If I got to pick,
I'm going steban o Conky and I'm gonna go with.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Just do it crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Just I want a rookie on the podium, so I'm
gonna go with Hajar. Okay, and let's throw in a.
I'm like, I suddenly can't remember any drivers. You're like, uh,
let's do a. I don't know. That's all I got, Okay,

(01:03:33):
So I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Do any more Pierre. But those are my three, those
are the three that I pick. One of them is
gonna okayum, so my three, I'm going with Yuki Sonoda
because and I'm sticking with Alonzo. I'm probably gonna name
Alonzo every time until I'm psychic.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Oh my god, it happened and we're not okay, we
should not be allowed to name the six drivers because
I immediately I am like George Russell, so he's gonna
redeem himself.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
But I'm like, no, no crazy predictions. Only okay Yuki Sonoda, Alonso,
and I'm like, who else is that on the That's
what I was like. See, it's not easy have the names.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Let's see. It's like just kind of close your eyes and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
A right, okay, sorry about that, my crazy podiums podium
prediction because we're psychic, Uky Sonoda, Alonso, Alex Alvin. If
not all, then at least one of them, at least
one of them in any order. But okay, that about

(01:04:46):
wraps this up, and we will talk to you next time. Yes,
and let us know your crazy race predictions that you
would just be over the moon about crazy ones. Only
don't name everybody that could actually do it, because that's
just boring pay Bye,
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