October 13, 2025 • 16 mins
We have a fascination with assigning meaning to various numbers. Actually, many cultures enjoy assigning meaning to numbers as well. In western traditions, we have a particularly special number that is the most evil: 666. We explore how this number came to be associated with the Devil and the why its not. But hey, I guess it is now.
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Don Drumpf = 666
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Links and References:
- https://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/666.htm
- https://academic.oup.com/jts/article-abstract/69/1/309/4917823?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false
- https://www.britannica.com/topic/number-of-the-beast
- https://www.fusionglobal.org/connections/why-is-666-the-number-of-the-beast/?srsltid=AfmBOopwGFHFRt_D306RTVF_RBvOthZFzPAtxpg3Y6W3FlyOH2JY30sa
- https://uscatholic.org/articles/202310/glad-you-asked-what-is-666-in-the-bible/
- https://medium.com/illuminations-mirror/this-symbolic-number-has-opposite-meanings-in-different-cultures-bdb891d04547
- https://www.britannica.com/topic/gematria
- https://www.gematrix.org/?word=dondrumpf
Don Drumpf = 666
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome to Why We Do What We Do Mini. I
am your host Abraham and I'm your host Shane. We
are a psychology podcast. We talk about the things that
humans and non human animals do. And we are in
the middle of October. That means that we are talking
about spooky season, creepy things even on our minis.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes, we are. It's all spooky all the time.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Indeed, last week we talked about our ip as an
initialism for tombstones and things dying. And today we're doing
a mini about numbers. And conveniently, this many comes out
on the thirteenth, which in Western tradition is an unlucky number,
lucky for some, but has a sort of special spooky significance.
(01:05):
There's like the movie Friday the thirteenth. Anyway, it's a
prime number. People like to use it for spooky things.
But yeah, that's when we're coming out.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, I think of like thirteenth floors.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, you know, like are the ones that don't exist,
even though thirteen is fourteen, We just don't number it right.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yes, exactly. We just say that it's fourteen, even though
if you count them it is in fact thirteen. Now
we're talking about numbers. But before we do that, I
would like to let you know that if you enjoy
what you hear today and you like to support us,
you can join us on Patreon, pick up some merch,
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(01:39):
us at the end of this discussion. If you're joining
us for the first time, welcome. We hope you enjoy
what you hear today. And if you're a returning person,
then welcome back. We're really glad that you keep checking
out our podcast. This is not our six hundred and
sixty sixth mini, although you might think that it was
based on the title of this It would have been
a fantastic coincidence if that was the case, but I
(02:00):
don't think that will be the case for like several
more years. It is actually the five hundred and twentieth
thing we've published, which is Miny's plus regular episodes plus Nostalgias.
So we were like kind of closedish, I guess, but
still one hundred and forty six away, But that's where
we're at with that. It would have been cool, but
it's fine where it's it's our five hundred and twentieth thing,
(02:20):
it's coming out on the thirteenth, which I think is
the more fun thing.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Now, you know, as we're talking about this, in Christian traditions,
the number sixty six to six is considered evil. It's
associated with the devil, and it should be avoided and
regarded with an abundance of fear.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Like, we don't we don't like this number.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, but how did six sixty six come to be
associated with evil? With satanicness? And do other cultures also
have evil numbers? Those are the questions we're going to
tackle in understanding the history of six sixty six as
a thing. Because we talk about history because history is
psychology kind of.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, I mean history is behavior, and behavior and events
are all shapey our psychology and something something cultural selection,
something something medicantgencies, so on and so over right.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So let's go ahead and get into this.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Though it may be of little surprise the listeners, particularly
those scholarly Christians, if we even have any of those,
that six to' six can be traced back to the Bible,
specifically the Book of Revelations, which is the scariest book
of all, but specifically Revelations thirteen eleven through eighteen, and
specifically just thirteen eighteen is cited the most often. In
(03:26):
his passage reads, here is wisdom. Let him who have
under who has understanding, calculate the number of the beast.
For the number is that of a man, and his
number is six six six, the number.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Of the beast.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yes, I did not throw any iron made in references
in here, So I'm glad that you, uh, you brought.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It up at that. I had to. How could I
let that go?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I mean, it's true, it really really begs for that,
So I'm glad that. Yeah. Anyway, numbers do play a
really important role in the Christian Bible. Seven is a
holy number, ten appear as men times, there's the Holy Trinity,
et cetera. And amateur sleuths have also pointed out other
similarities to sort of physical reality that may have influenced
(04:09):
the employment of these numbers in the Bible. We have
ten fingers. Ten shows up a lot. We use a
base ten counting system. There are three dimensions in physical space.
You kind of have length widthin height, which is sometimes
described as up, down, left, right, forward backward.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I thought you're gonna say up, down, left, right, aba
b start.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, exactly that as well super Nintendo codes that may
have informed this. There's a lot of I think correspondence
between physical reality and the importance of numbers. And numbers
are used very frequently in the Bible in very deliberate
and intentional ways that seem like maybe fantastical. It's like,
is a really ten? Like there was one about like
(04:49):
a ten headed beast with ten crowns on its head
or something, and it's like why ten? And I think
it's just because these numbers bear some level of importance here.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Now, a couple of sources we found identified the Book
of Revelations as having been written in Greek originally, and
this is actually really important because the Greeks did not
use numbers. In fact, many cultures did not at this time.
Our Arabic numbers did not exist until centuries later, and
instead letters were given numerical values, and letters came to
represent numbers. In Greek, this is called isopsaphe isopsophe. Yeah,
(05:22):
but Hebrew had a similar system called Gemetria or Gymetria. Now,
for example, in Geometria, letters A through J were one
through ten, and then each subsequent letter was valued ten
to one hundred, and then each subsequent letter after that
was increasing values of one hundred.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, so it was like one through ten and then ten, twenty, thirty,
forty up to one hundred, and then one hundred, two hundred,
three hundred, et cetera. Both of these were used. Again
that it was like letters were quantitative values. And the
most common example that most people recognize is Roman numerals.
Like Roman numerals, you'll have like V means five and
(05:58):
that sort of thing. Yeah, so all these letters have these,
and then that was how they talked about things. So
in this tradition, it was very common to play with
letters as numbers and numbers as letters because they had
quantitative values assigned to them. And so, according to timas Weyman,
who was a biblical scholar Brigham Young University, there were
some even some Roman inscriptions that use this sort of wordplay,
(06:20):
substituting letters for numbers. There was some inscription they found
that said quote, I love her whose number is oney
three hundred and eight, and again like because they could
say a number for a thing, and that represented the
words for the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right, And so, speaking of evil numbers, here's an ad
which probably has an evil phone number in it.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Indeed, don't call that that evil number. It six seven, five,
three oh nine.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh Jenny, the most evil of numbers.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeap. Now, using this, it was believed by some, and
by they, I mean using this idea of like playing
with letters as numbers. It was believed by some, or
at least treated with interest, that what happened is that
you had some words or names that might have the
exact same numerical value because of how you would add
up the quantities that were associated with those numbers, and
(07:17):
the fact that they were the same with that relation
that indicated some kind of special relationship between those two words.
So you can have a very long word that had
sort of letters that were at the early part of
the alphabet that had the exact same quantitative value as
a very short word that had letters that were toward
the end of the alphabet. Because if you're thinking about
the fact that the last several letters of the alphabet,
(07:39):
the last ten or so would have values of one hundred,
two hundred, three hundred versus some letters that only have
a value of one, two, three, four five, then you
could have these random, these very random quantities of numbers,
like words that would range from like fifteen to one thousand,
three hundred and eight for example, where it represents this
not necessarily wide range of numbers, but just where they
(08:01):
happened to fall in the alphabet. But so it was
like very very random that you would ever have two
words that had the exact same quantitative value, and yet
it happened, and so that was treated almost mystically. It's
kind of like whoa look at that these things are
the same value.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, So, taken together, this suggested six y' six was
actually a somewhat coded message to Christians that they would
understand what was being reference to this message at the
time that it was written, though not now different different times, right.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, it seems like the message was probably lost over time.
But again that's why biblical scholars are interested in studying
that sort of things.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Now, importantly, in earlier translations of the Bible, the actual
number was six' one six instead of six sixty. Six,
sure and again because like it wasn't necessarily that it
was just in reference to, something and that something had
to do with how the sort of quantitative value that
was assigned to. Numbers but either, way the most common
(08:59):
association to six sixty six is that Of roman Emperor Caesar.
Nero the translation To hebrew as nr wn qsr Or
Neron Keyser, keser which is n e R o n
k e S A. R i, know that's a lot
of letters to be thrown at you and. Everything, yeah
(09:19):
but the point being is that if you were to
add up those, letters the value of each adds up
to six sixty. Six and this is the reason most
scholars point To Caesar niro as the who this is
in reference. To it also makes sense, too Because Caesar
niro brutally Prosecuted, christians and so they they really did
(09:40):
see him as being like an enemy of their religion
and of their people.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Right and to be, fair the number six six six
shows up in other parts of The bible without any
special significance to a beast or. Personage so In Two
chronicles nine thirteen and One kings ten to, fourteen it
is noted That soloman received six hundred and sixty six
talent of gold per, year and In ezra two, thirteen
after The Israelite adonokam returns from, exile he has six
(10:07):
hundred and sixty six.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Descendants, yeah and it's.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Hard to like figure out if that has any specific
relevance or. Meaning but it showed up, there so like
it's a, yeah you, know it's anyone's guess as to
why it seemed. Relevant but other biblical scholars do like
to point to the fact that repetition of numbers also
had specific, significance particularly in The, bible but also just
among people at the, time and so a number three
(10:30):
times was really common In hebrew to express. Emphasis you,
have of course six sixty, six but then you might
also see the number seven seven, Seven and there was
even the instances of three three, Three so like the
just repeating something twice or having three iterations of it
was sort of a way of emphasizing a. Thing, furthermore
as it's related to sort Of biblical And christian, traditions
(10:54):
seven was considered a divine complete number and the number
Of Jesus christ sometimes actually to pay did as seven
seven seven six is an, incomplete cheap knockoff of the important.
Number it's like close but. Incomplete it's, wrong and that's
why six six six is the Anti christ To jesus'
seven seven. Seven it's the imitation Of christ but failing
(11:16):
to do so and doing it and failing with mal. Intent,
Right so that's that's like another potential link between those two.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Numbers right, now as far as we can, find other
cultures don't really have a number quite a significant or
evil as, six six to six In, christianity although there
are a lot of numbers that are associated with good
and bad.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Luck, yeah so thirteen is really a commonly unlucky number
In western. Traditions as we've, mentioned like buildings you will
often see do not have a labeled thirteenth floor or
to go to twelve to, fourteen whereas In eastern traditions
they don't have the same relationship to the number, thirteen
but instead the number. Four this is pronounced as see and,
mandarin which is similar to the word see and, mandarin
(11:54):
which also means. Death and AS i, said in many
buildings you won't find the thirteenth, floor but In china
you instead won't find a fourth floor for the very same.
Reason and, relatedly double this number you get, eight which
apparently the. Number the word for eight sounds very similar
to the word that also means wealth and is therefore
considered very. Lucky so you have four is. Unlucky eight is,
(12:15):
lucky even though it has no special significance TO. Us
thirteen does TO, us and four and eight due to.
Them and THEN i saw one source that said that
thirty nine is considered an unlucky number In. AFGHANISTAN i
mean this was there was a story related about some
pimp and. Prostitution and this is all according to an,
Author john boone. Of he wrote a twenty eleven article
(12:35):
in The guardian about this, topic suggesting that thirty nine
was like an unlucky number In, afghanistan.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Right, right, Right so for, fun we decided to calculate
our names in. Isopsophy and so AND i, say We
abraham did, this and this is really really.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah so my Name shane comes out to equal two
hundred and sixty four or two hundred and eighty two
In English Jemetria. Ormatica abraham comes out to one fifty
three or two sixty four In. Gymetria but for those
Numerologist christians out, there if you would Recall Donald trump's
original family name was drump spelled d r u. Mpf
(13:16):
The English gemetria Of Don drumph is six six.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
SIX i did not make that.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Up that is actually.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Real so oh, Man Happy, halloween everybody because what that's
just you, know that's too it's too it's too much
of a.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Coincidence AND i, LOVE i would love to debunk numerology
at some point in a future. Episode but LIKE i,
said what a it's such a fantastic coincidence when you
have numbers that line up to be a particular. Way
it was crazy to me that you could get six
sixty six From don drump if you put that name in. There,
yeah and it came out to exactly that. Value and,
(13:55):
like if you don't believe, me go. Check there are
a lot of different ways to translate. It there is
Like english gymetria And hebrew, gymetria and like there's a
few different. Types but if you do The english, Gymetria
don drumf is six sixty.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Six that's scary the number of the, beast, Right.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
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Speaker 2 (15:21):
Up nothing else on my?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
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Welcome to Why We Do What We Do Mini. I
am your host Abraham and I'm your host Shane. We
are a psychology podcast. We talk about the things that
humans and non human animals do. And we are in
the middle of October. That means that we are talking
about spooky season, creepy things even on our minis.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes, we are. It's all spooky all the time.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Indeed, last week we talked about our ip as an
initialism for tombstones and things dying. And today we're doing
a mini about numbers. And conveniently, this many comes out
on the thirteenth, which in Western tradition is an unlucky number,
lucky for some, but has a sort of special spooky significance.
(01:05):
There's like the movie Friday the thirteenth. Anyway, it's a
prime number. People like to use it for spooky things.
But yeah, that's when we're coming out.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, I think of like thirteenth floors.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, you know, like are the ones that don't exist,
even though thirteen is fourteen, We just don't number it right.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yes, exactly. We just say that it's fourteen, even though
if you count them it is in fact thirteen. Now
we're talking about numbers. But before we do that, I
would like to let you know that if you enjoy
what you hear today and you like to support us,
you can join us on Patreon, pick up some merch,
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(01:39):
us at the end of this discussion. If you're joining
us for the first time, welcome. We hope you enjoy
what you hear today. And if you're a returning person,
then welcome back. We're really glad that you keep checking
out our podcast. This is not our six hundred and
sixty sixth mini, although you might think that it was
based on the title of this It would have been
a fantastic coincidence if that was the case, but I
(02:00):
don't think that will be the case for like several
more years. It is actually the five hundred and twentieth
thing we've published, which is Miny's plus regular episodes plus Nostalgias.
So we were like kind of closedish, I guess, but
still one hundred and forty six away, But that's where
we're at with that. It would have been cool, but
it's fine where it's it's our five hundred and twentieth thing,
(02:20):
it's coming out on the thirteenth, which I think is
the more fun thing.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Now, you know, as we're talking about this, in Christian traditions,
the number sixty six to six is considered evil. It's
associated with the devil, and it should be avoided and
regarded with an abundance of fear.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Like, we don't we don't like this number.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, but how did six sixty six come to be
associated with evil? With satanicness? And do other cultures also
have evil numbers? Those are the questions we're going to
tackle in understanding the history of six sixty six as
a thing. Because we talk about history because history is
psychology kind of.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, I mean history is behavior, and behavior and events
are all shapey our psychology and something something cultural selection,
something something medicantgencies, so on and so over right.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So let's go ahead and get into this.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Though it may be of little surprise the listeners, particularly
those scholarly Christians, if we even have any of those,
that six to' six can be traced back to the Bible,
specifically the Book of Revelations, which is the scariest book
of all, but specifically Revelations thirteen eleven through eighteen, and
specifically just thirteen eighteen is cited the most often. In
(03:26):
his passage reads, here is wisdom. Let him who have
under who has understanding, calculate the number of the beast.
For the number is that of a man, and his
number is six six six, the number.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Of the beast.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yes, I did not throw any iron made in references
in here, So I'm glad that you, uh, you brought.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It up at that. I had to. How could I
let that go?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I mean, it's true, it really really begs for that,
So I'm glad that. Yeah. Anyway, numbers do play a
really important role in the Christian Bible. Seven is a
holy number, ten appear as men times, there's the Holy Trinity,
et cetera. And amateur sleuths have also pointed out other
similarities to sort of physical reality that may have influenced
(04:09):
the employment of these numbers in the Bible. We have
ten fingers. Ten shows up a lot. We use a
base ten counting system. There are three dimensions in physical space.
You kind of have length widthin height, which is sometimes
described as up, down, left, right, forward backward.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I thought you're gonna say up, down, left, right, aba
b start.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, exactly that as well super Nintendo codes that may
have informed this. There's a lot of I think correspondence
between physical reality and the importance of numbers. And numbers
are used very frequently in the Bible in very deliberate
and intentional ways that seem like maybe fantastical. It's like,
is a really ten? Like there was one about like
(04:49):
a ten headed beast with ten crowns on its head
or something, and it's like why ten? And I think
it's just because these numbers bear some level of importance here.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Now, a couple of sources we found identified the Book
of Revelations as having been written in Greek originally, and
this is actually really important because the Greeks did not
use numbers. In fact, many cultures did not at this time.
Our Arabic numbers did not exist until centuries later, and
instead letters were given numerical values, and letters came to
represent numbers. In Greek, this is called isopsaphe isopsophe. Yeah,
(05:22):
but Hebrew had a similar system called Gemetria or Gymetria. Now,
for example, in Geometria, letters A through J were one
through ten, and then each subsequent letter was valued ten
to one hundred, and then each subsequent letter after that
was increasing values of one hundred.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, so it was like one through ten and then ten, twenty, thirty,
forty up to one hundred, and then one hundred, two hundred,
three hundred, et cetera. Both of these were used. Again
that it was like letters were quantitative values. And the
most common example that most people recognize is Roman numerals.
Like Roman numerals, you'll have like V means five and
(05:58):
that sort of thing. Yeah, so all these letters have these,
and then that was how they talked about things. So
in this tradition, it was very common to play with
letters as numbers and numbers as letters because they had
quantitative values assigned to them. And so, according to timas Weyman,
who was a biblical scholar Brigham Young University, there were
some even some Roman inscriptions that use this sort of wordplay,
(06:20):
substituting letters for numbers. There was some inscription they found
that said quote, I love her whose number is oney
three hundred and eight, and again like because they could
say a number for a thing, and that represented the
words for the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right, And so, speaking of evil numbers, here's an ad
which probably has an evil phone number in it.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Indeed, don't call that that evil number. It six seven, five,
three oh nine.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh Jenny, the most evil of numbers.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeap. Now, using this, it was believed by some, and
by they, I mean using this idea of like playing
with letters as numbers. It was believed by some, or
at least treated with interest, that what happened is that
you had some words or names that might have the
exact same numerical value because of how you would add
up the quantities that were associated with those numbers, and
(07:17):
the fact that they were the same with that relation
that indicated some kind of special relationship between those two words.
So you can have a very long word that had
sort of letters that were at the early part of
the alphabet that had the exact same quantitative value as
a very short word that had letters that were toward
the end of the alphabet. Because if you're thinking about
the fact that the last several letters of the alphabet,
(07:39):
the last ten or so would have values of one hundred,
two hundred, three hundred versus some letters that only have
a value of one, two, three, four five, then you
could have these random, these very random quantities of numbers,
like words that would range from like fifteen to one thousand,
three hundred and eight for example, where it represents this
not necessarily wide range of numbers, but just where they
(08:01):
happened to fall in the alphabet. But so it was
like very very random that you would ever have two
words that had the exact same quantitative value, and yet
it happened, and so that was treated almost mystically. It's
kind of like whoa look at that these things are
the same value.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, So, taken together, this suggested six y' six was
actually a somewhat coded message to Christians that they would
understand what was being reference to this message at the
time that it was written, though not now different different times, right.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, it seems like the message was probably lost over time.
But again that's why biblical scholars are interested in studying
that sort of things.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Now, importantly, in earlier translations of the Bible, the actual
number was six' one six instead of six sixty. Six,
sure and again because like it wasn't necessarily that it
was just in reference to, something and that something had
to do with how the sort of quantitative value that
was assigned to. Numbers but either, way the most common
(08:59):
association to six sixty six is that Of roman Emperor Caesar.
Nero the translation To hebrew as nr wn qsr Or
Neron Keyser, keser which is n e R o n
k e S A. R i, know that's a lot
of letters to be thrown at you and. Everything, yeah
(09:19):
but the point being is that if you were to
add up those, letters the value of each adds up
to six sixty. Six and this is the reason most
scholars point To Caesar niro as the who this is
in reference. To it also makes sense, too Because Caesar
niro brutally Prosecuted, christians and so they they really did
(09:40):
see him as being like an enemy of their religion
and of their people.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Right and to be, fair the number six six six
shows up in other parts of The bible without any
special significance to a beast or. Personage so In Two
chronicles nine thirteen and One kings ten to, fourteen it
is noted That soloman received six hundred and sixty six
talent of gold per, year and In ezra two, thirteen
after The Israelite adonokam returns from, exile he has six
(10:07):
hundred and sixty six.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Descendants, yeah and it's.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Hard to like figure out if that has any specific
relevance or. Meaning but it showed up, there so like
it's a, yeah you, know it's anyone's guess as to
why it seemed. Relevant but other biblical scholars do like
to point to the fact that repetition of numbers also
had specific, significance particularly in The, bible but also just
among people at the, time and so a number three
(10:30):
times was really common In hebrew to express. Emphasis you,
have of course six sixty, six but then you might
also see the number seven seven, Seven and there was
even the instances of three three, Three so like the
just repeating something twice or having three iterations of it
was sort of a way of emphasizing a. Thing, furthermore
as it's related to sort Of biblical And christian, traditions
(10:54):
seven was considered a divine complete number and the number
Of Jesus christ sometimes actually to pay did as seven
seven seven six is an, incomplete cheap knockoff of the important.
Number it's like close but. Incomplete it's, wrong and that's
why six six six is the Anti christ To jesus'
seven seven. Seven it's the imitation Of christ but failing
(11:16):
to do so and doing it and failing with mal. Intent,
Right so that's that's like another potential link between those two.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Numbers right, now as far as we can, find other
cultures don't really have a number quite a significant or
evil as, six six to six In, christianity although there
are a lot of numbers that are associated with good
and bad.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Luck, yeah so thirteen is really a commonly unlucky number
In western. Traditions as we've, mentioned like buildings you will
often see do not have a labeled thirteenth floor or
to go to twelve to, fourteen whereas In eastern traditions
they don't have the same relationship to the number, thirteen
but instead the number. Four this is pronounced as see and,
mandarin which is similar to the word see and, mandarin
(11:54):
which also means. Death and AS i, said in many
buildings you won't find the thirteenth, floor but In china
you instead won't find a fourth floor for the very same.
Reason and, relatedly double this number you get, eight which
apparently the. Number the word for eight sounds very similar
to the word that also means wealth and is therefore
considered very. Lucky so you have four is. Unlucky eight is,
(12:15):
lucky even though it has no special significance TO. Us
thirteen does TO, us and four and eight due to.
Them and THEN i saw one source that said that
thirty nine is considered an unlucky number In. AFGHANISTAN i
mean this was there was a story related about some
pimp and. Prostitution and this is all according to an,
Author john boone. Of he wrote a twenty eleven article
(12:35):
in The guardian about this, topic suggesting that thirty nine
was like an unlucky number In, afghanistan.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Right, right, Right so for, fun we decided to calculate
our names in. Isopsophy and so AND i, say We
abraham did, this and this is really really.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah so my Name shane comes out to equal two
hundred and sixty four or two hundred and eighty two
In English Jemetria. Ormatica abraham comes out to one fifty
three or two sixty four In. Gymetria but for those
Numerologist christians out, there if you would Recall Donald trump's
original family name was drump spelled d r u. Mpf
(13:16):
The English gemetria Of Don drumph is six six.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
SIX i did not make that.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Up that is actually.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Real so oh, Man Happy, halloween everybody because what that's
just you, know that's too it's too it's too much
of a.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Coincidence AND i, LOVE i would love to debunk numerology
at some point in a future. Episode but LIKE i,
said what a it's such a fantastic coincidence when you
have numbers that line up to be a particular. Way
it was crazy to me that you could get six
sixty six From don drump if you put that name in. There,
yeah and it came out to exactly that. Value and,
(13:55):
like if you don't believe, me go. Check there are
a lot of different ways to translate. It there is
Like english gymetria And hebrew, gymetria and like there's a
few different. Types but if you do The english, Gymetria
don drumf is six sixty.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Six that's scary the number of the, beast, Right.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Okay if you would like to support, us if you'd
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beliefs around the number six sixty six or any other
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Advertisers BUT i think that's what we have to say about.
This thank you to my team of people for helping
me make this. Happen thank you for recording with me, Today.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Shane, yeah thank you for having.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Me thank you to our social media Coordinator Emma wilson
and our producer audio Engineer justin who makes everything sound.
Good is there anything THAT i forgot that you'd like
to add before we wrap?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Up nothing else on my?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
End all, right thank you all for. Listening this Is
abraham and this Is shane our very spooky six six
six number of The, Beast Why We Do What We
Do mini is. Out.
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