October 27, 2025 • 16 mins
There is a mysterious castle in Czechia with defensive structures pointed inward toward the caste. There are also stories of a hole in the ground of unknown depth with horror stories about attempts to explore it. We'll discuss the truth of Houska Castle.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome to Why we do what we do Many I'm
your host Abraham and I'm your host Shane. We are
a psychology podcast. We talk about the things that humans
and non human animals do, and we also talk about
spooky things during the month of October because it's a
month of spooky things. This is our last mini about
(00:41):
spooky things for twenty twenty five's Halloween, spooky month of October.
So we are well, we want to do our thing there,
which is we're going to talk about the origin of
Stephen Miller, Donald Trump, Mike Johnson were talking about where
they all come from, which is Hell.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
If you didn't know that they come from Hell?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Correct, Yes, sorry, that's what I was looking to, specifically
a hole to Hell that is located in the Czech
Republic in a castle called Castle who'scap But we'll get
to all of that or Whoska Castle. We'll get to
all of that. We as I said, we're psychology podcast.
We talk about spooky things in October. If you like
we here today, we'd like to support us. You can
join us on Patreon, pickups some merch, leave us a
(01:26):
rating and review, like subscribe, Tell a friend. I'll talk
about those things at the end of this discussion. But
minis are these short episodes that we release on Monday's
our Monday minis nice fifteen minute dive into a thing
or less, sometimes more, but usually around that. And as
I said, we're talking about scary things for October, and
scary things include people who do evil things. So let's
(01:48):
talk about this castle.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, so I'd hearn about this castle just because I'd
like to listen to paranormal and like, you know, strange,
strange things, and yeah, this one just really grabbed me
because it's got like a fun it's got fun.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Lore, so it is interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So Whoska Castle is a castle in blach or maybe Blatchkey,
which is in My best friend lives in the Czech
Republic and she's probably gonna give me a lot of
flack for this. So this is based in the Czech Republic.
It's about twenty nine miles from Prague. And according to
my best friend, as a general rule, castles are like
the McDonald's of Europe. They're just everywhere, just kind of
like you can see them all the time. You can
(02:24):
get happy meals in some of them. There's some that
have like Starbucks built into them, which is like such
an overtly gross thing. Wow, But they're everywhere, and some
are better than others. And she said specifically Castle Who's
go Huska Castle was one of the most difficult ones
to get to, and that's actually gonna be really important later.
It was like very difficult to get to and kind
of unassuming, which is also kind of leads to its
(02:45):
lore and like a little bit of its scariness.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And maybe a little bit difficult to get out of
as well. Yeah. Yeah, So, because castles are so abundant,
you would think that this castle would not really stand
out among the many castles, and I think if you
saw it, it probably wouldn't. Aside from being one of
the oldest, most well preserved castles in Europe, it was
built during the Autakurs, during Otgar, the second of Bohemia's reign,
(03:11):
which was twelve fifty three through twelve seventy eight. It
comes with one of the spookiest legends attached to it,
so though visually it might not look like anything different,
knowing the lore around it does make it quite unique
among really castles anywhere, let alone here.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah. So, most castles are built and this is going
to be one of the important features that we talk about.
Most castles are built with their armaments facing outward. They're
facing towards threats that are coming in. They're used for
defenses to fight against those folks, and that's what castles
are generally built for. They're built to defend. They're built
to defend a certain amount of people. They're built for security.
They're built to be like strongholds. And this is what
(03:51):
makes Huska Castle a little bit different. The defenses for
this castle aren't pointed out towards the outside towards intruders
to prevent people from getting in. The majority of the
armaments are pointed inward. They're pointed towards the center of
the castle.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh why would it be? Oh my? All right, So
here's where we start to dig into the really interesting
lore here. The castle was built atop a large, seemingly
bottomless hole. The chapel of the castle was built over
this hole that was aptly described as the gateway to Hell,
(04:28):
and that's why we know that's where those people come from.
The castle has been linked to some occult activity already,
but it's the gateway to Hell that gets everyone riled
up and excited. About it and curious and maybe a
little bit mystical feeling.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, there's a story, and this is going to be
kind of like, you know, this is really a mini
of stories. There's a story where a prisoner, to kind
of help get to kind of shave off time from
their sentence, had volunteered to be lowered into the hole
to try to see the bottom of the hole. And
this person lowered in and then they were pulled back up,
and wh When they were pulled back up, their hair
(05:04):
had gone from like a dark brown to a bread
like just like a white, like completely white. They weren't speaking,
and then three days later they died. So everybody's like, well,
obviously this is a hole to hell because the person
never described what they saw or anything like that, so
it's got to be like.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That they were speechless, speechless.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So the thing is is is for this castle, because
of its strangest, rumors began to swirl that the gateway
to hell. This hole that was bottomless in the middle
of the thing was a source of animal hybrids like
chimera that people would see kind of wandering around the
castle at night or at like sunset, they would roam
the countryside things like lions with bat wings and demon
(05:41):
bats that would fly around the castle, a frog human creature,
this bullfrog human Alex Jones esque creature that came out,
a headless horse or headless horses that would come out
of there. All these creatures that were reported to have
escaped the hole, and they were all kind of like
these weird, strange things that shouldn't exist as far as
like what we understood of animals at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
There's kind of a unique implication of this that we're
not planning on taking on in this discussion because this
is a mini but this then refers. This links up
with the religious traditions that see hell as a physical
place existing with us just below our feet. In this
year's suite of Halloween spooky themed episodes, we did in
(06:26):
a discussion about the variants of Hell, and there are
some of those religious traditions or sort of oral traditions
that see Hell is like it's real, it's right there,
Like if you dig down far enough you will get there. Yeah,
and you will see it. So it's here with us.
It exists at the same time with us, Like while
we're up here having our tea, people are down below us.
(06:47):
Suffering an eternity of things. But all right, so because
of course, because this castle is in Europe, the Nazis
found a unique interest in this castle. They love evil,
this castle as a whole to evil. They're like the
all clicks with us, Sure, Republicans are like streaming out
of there and drove so like clearly there's something really
evil there that we need to like get in an
(07:09):
alliance with anyway. And they also had these like really
occult leanings. They wanted to capture spooky, paranormal, occultish things
as part of their regime. And there was I mean,
this is real, Like Nazis really have these mystical leanings
like we're actually going to be able to lean on
these weapons of hell and be able to do that.
So they created more new myths than Nazis were harnessing
(07:32):
the power of Hell to their advantage, which makes sense
because they were Nazis who that's the kind of thing
that they would do. They might also play ads. Yeah,
out of the hell whole came crawling the the bloated
(07:52):
corpse of advertisements, and that made their way into podcasts.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, it was like you know, you see you see
like you know, Donald Trump pop out of this whole,
you see, like somebody who went to school to get
like an advertising degree pop up out.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Of the whole, Like is like social media ceo.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
There's Mark Zuckerberg. Wild It's it's crazy you crawled out
this whole. Yeah, I do think it's fun. Like I
say fun because I think this is just one of
the more interesting and maybe this is like my age,
Like there's a there's a great stand up that talks
about like how as you get older, like you just
get really interested in World War two, and this is
like one of those weird things that are like interesting
about World War two. Was this kind of like subset
(08:31):
of like Nazi research that was all about the occult
and all about like supernatural things, and like they were
specifically looking for things like the Holy Grail and the
Arc of the Covenant. They were looking for artifacts, yeah,
that were supposedly supernatural. So like this was it made
sense they found this place and tried to harness it
for like their power.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
All right, But he always asked the question, but why
we want to understand what's going on here? So this
is the part that makes the action this actually kind
of strange here based on what we understand of castles,
war and lore. This castle was not built on any
kind of strategic location, as many castles were as far
(09:10):
from trade routes, there's no nearby water sources. It's kind
of a weird anomaly that it exists in the place
that it exists at all.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, Like, there's no strategic advantage for it being there. Also,
like the way it's designed doesn't really make sense for
the way that castles are generally designed. The weapons are
pointed inward. The thickest walls are built up surrounding the
hole inside the castle for the cathedral, not on the
outside to prevent intruders. So the most sturdy walls are
built directly around the gateway to Hell.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah now, of course, why again, why this thing happens?
People love good stories. A rumor can really pass around
quite quickly. If it already exists alongside a narrative that
they've accept and adopted, then it just helps add to
the elaborate construct worldview that they have embraced. Sure, and
(10:02):
a single stare story that's shared among an already superstitious
group of people can create this It just further fuels
that mysticism and the legend and it becomes easy to
accept difficult to refute.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, and so so you know, as far as this
castle goes, is it strange? Yeah, it's weird. But now
you pair this with active imaginations, and you've got a
recipe for one of the spookiest places on Earth. What's
more likely to have happened? And what more likely what
this place was? It was established as either a residence,
an administrative building, or a political prison when it was
originally built, right, it was something that some people described
(10:37):
it being like an outpost almost to be able to
support and hold, like just so that they get the
kings could manage their lands, and so it was a
connective place between lands, but they still don't really know
what those lands were or any of those connections. And
based on what we know, prison might actually make the
most sense, even a temporary prison, if you've got people
inside the walls and the armament's pointed inside versus outside.
(10:58):
Like it's a location that's hard to get to, it's isolated,
it's remote. So the remoteness of the location and how
the weapons were aimed make it seem like it's probably
a good place to hold people just in case. But
that doesn't explain the bullfrog man. So it's still a mystery.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, exactly. It's like I think if you were to
look if someone were, for whatever reasons, to find like
remnants of casts of like prisons far in the future
and be like, it seems like this is really designed
to keep people in more than it is to keep
people out, and be like, Yep, that is exactly what
it was designed for. And honestly, like the tradition of
(11:32):
throwing people into holes as a part of their punishment,
that is a thing that people did. Yeah, if they
could find a hole they could throw people into, then
building a prison around that kind of probably felt like
a good idea at the time. Yeah, and it's very possible.
So I think if we take the plausible, reasonable explanations
of these Obviously some of the stories they came out
of here a purely legend hearsay it best and probably
(11:54):
fanciful things dreamed up by people who just wanted to
tell stories most of the time. But yeah, I imagine
that if you went down there, you probably would find
human remains and they'd probably be pretty gross. Yeah, and
you might even find a lot of them, which might
be particularly distressing. But yeah, that's that's the sort of
lore and I think the parsimonious understanding of this that
we might bring.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah. Absolutely, So going back to my best friend who
lives there and went there, she said that it was
one of the most boring castles she had ever been to,
So like, even though it's got all the spooky lore,
she's like, it was one of the worst ones I've
been to. Even though it's well preserved, it's just kind
of like a big block and the hole is not
even that interesting, and the basement that's supposed to be
(12:34):
the most haunted is only feels like it's only kind
of haunted. So like she's like, it's there. She basically said,
they're better castles to go to.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah. Well, and you know the thing is, like prisons
are boring, They are austere. Yeah, they are not ornate.
They are just kind of blocks that are meant to
hold people in place. And if you go to a
castle that was designed to host balls and hold royalty
and be central hubs for trade, then like those are
going to be ornate in deck created in large and
very fancy, and so like, it kind of makes sense
(13:03):
that a prison is going to be sort of a drab, uneventful,
not particularly visually striking place. So again, I think prisons
makes the most sense here and things in terms of
thinking about it, and we can ascribe all kinds of
fancy ideas to it, and that's really fun and we
enjoyed that from a storytelling perspective. But you know, we
(13:23):
love to We love to on this show, I think,
discuss and have fun with stories, and then we also
love to crush myths with science and facts and logical reasoning.
So yeah, yeah, absolutely, so we did that thing. So
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Speaker 2 (14:02):
He's the Frogman.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Oh my gosh, we just did it. I mean possibly
it was like a split like we had RFK Junior
and Alex Jones came out anyway, I just had that
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That's true? He is.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Is there anything that I'm missing here that you'd like
to add before we wrap up this discussion today.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I mean, if you get a chance to go visit castles,
go do that because that's kind.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Of fun, very cool. All right. I think that's what
we have to say. I probably miss something, maybe not,
I don't know, but thank you for listening to this
mini and this is the end of our minis for
Spooky Month. I think that's it. So this is Abraham,
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Welcome to Why we do what we do Many I'm
your host Abraham and I'm your host Shane. We are
a psychology podcast. We talk about the things that humans
and non human animals do, and we also talk about
spooky things during the month of October because it's a
month of spooky things. This is our last mini about
(00:41):
spooky things for twenty twenty five's Halloween, spooky month of October.
So we are well, we want to do our thing there,
which is we're going to talk about the origin of
Stephen Miller, Donald Trump, Mike Johnson were talking about where
they all come from, which is Hell.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
If you didn't know that they come from Hell?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Correct, Yes, sorry, that's what I was looking to, specifically
a hole to Hell that is located in the Czech
Republic in a castle called Castle who'scap But we'll get
to all of that or Whoska Castle. We'll get to
all of that. We as I said, we're psychology podcast.
We talk about spooky things in October. If you like
we here today, we'd like to support us. You can
join us on Patreon, pickups some merch, leave us a
(01:26):
rating and review, like subscribe, Tell a friend. I'll talk
about those things at the end of this discussion. But
minis are these short episodes that we release on Monday's
our Monday minis nice fifteen minute dive into a thing
or less, sometimes more, but usually around that. And as
I said, we're talking about scary things for October, and
scary things include people who do evil things. So let's
(01:48):
talk about this castle.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, so I'd hearn about this castle just because I'd
like to listen to paranormal and like, you know, strange,
strange things, and yeah, this one just really grabbed me
because it's got like a fun it's got fun.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Lore, so it is interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So Whoska Castle is a castle in blach or maybe Blatchkey,
which is in My best friend lives in the Czech
Republic and she's probably gonna give me a lot of
flack for this. So this is based in the Czech Republic.
It's about twenty nine miles from Prague. And according to
my best friend, as a general rule, castles are like
the McDonald's of Europe. They're just everywhere, just kind of
like you can see them all the time. You can
(02:24):
get happy meals in some of them. There's some that
have like Starbucks built into them, which is like such
an overtly gross thing. Wow, But they're everywhere, and some
are better than others. And she said specifically Castle Who's
go Huska Castle was one of the most difficult ones
to get to, and that's actually gonna be really important later.
It was like very difficult to get to and kind
of unassuming, which is also kind of leads to its
(02:45):
lore and like a little bit of its scariness.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And maybe a little bit difficult to get out of
as well. Yeah. Yeah, So, because castles are so abundant,
you would think that this castle would not really stand
out among the many castles, and I think if you
saw it, it probably wouldn't. Aside from being one of
the oldest, most well preserved castles in Europe, it was
built during the Autakurs, during Otgar, the second of Bohemia's reign,
(03:11):
which was twelve fifty three through twelve seventy eight. It
comes with one of the spookiest legends attached to it,
so though visually it might not look like anything different,
knowing the lore around it does make it quite unique
among really castles anywhere, let alone here.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah. So, most castles are built and this is going
to be one of the important features that we talk about.
Most castles are built with their armaments facing outward. They're
facing towards threats that are coming in. They're used for
defenses to fight against those folks, and that's what castles
are generally built for. They're built to defend. They're built
to defend a certain amount of people. They're built for security.
They're built to be like strongholds. And this is what
(03:51):
makes Huska Castle a little bit different. The defenses for
this castle aren't pointed out towards the outside towards intruders
to prevent people from getting in. The majority of the
armaments are pointed inward. They're pointed towards the center of
the castle.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh why would it be? Oh my? All right, So
here's where we start to dig into the really interesting
lore here. The castle was built atop a large, seemingly
bottomless hole. The chapel of the castle was built over
this hole that was aptly described as the gateway to Hell,
(04:28):
and that's why we know that's where those people come from.
The castle has been linked to some occult activity already,
but it's the gateway to Hell that gets everyone riled
up and excited. About it and curious and maybe a
little bit mystical feeling.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, there's a story, and this is going to be
kind of like, you know, this is really a mini
of stories. There's a story where a prisoner, to kind
of help get to kind of shave off time from
their sentence, had volunteered to be lowered into the hole
to try to see the bottom of the hole. And
this person lowered in and then they were pulled back up,
and wh When they were pulled back up, their hair
(05:04):
had gone from like a dark brown to a bread
like just like a white, like completely white. They weren't speaking,
and then three days later they died. So everybody's like, well,
obviously this is a hole to hell because the person
never described what they saw or anything like that, so
it's got to be like.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That they were speechless, speechless.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So the thing is is is for this castle, because
of its strangest, rumors began to swirl that the gateway
to hell. This hole that was bottomless in the middle
of the thing was a source of animal hybrids like
chimera that people would see kind of wandering around the
castle at night or at like sunset, they would roam
the countryside things like lions with bat wings and demon
(05:41):
bats that would fly around the castle, a frog human creature,
this bullfrog human Alex Jones esque creature that came out,
a headless horse or headless horses that would come out
of there. All these creatures that were reported to have
escaped the hole, and they were all kind of like
these weird, strange things that shouldn't exist as far as
like what we understood of animals at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
There's kind of a unique implication of this that we're
not planning on taking on in this discussion because this
is a mini but this then refers. This links up
with the religious traditions that see hell as a physical
place existing with us just below our feet. In this
year's suite of Halloween spooky themed episodes, we did in
(06:26):
a discussion about the variants of Hell, and there are
some of those religious traditions or sort of oral traditions
that see Hell is like it's real, it's right there,
Like if you dig down far enough you will get there. Yeah,
and you will see it. So it's here with us.
It exists at the same time with us, Like while
we're up here having our tea, people are down below us.
(06:47):
Suffering an eternity of things. But all right, so because
of course, because this castle is in Europe, the Nazis
found a unique interest in this castle. They love evil,
this castle as a whole to evil. They're like the
all clicks with us, Sure, Republicans are like streaming out
of there and drove so like clearly there's something really
evil there that we need to like get in an
(07:09):
alliance with anyway. And they also had these like really
occult leanings. They wanted to capture spooky, paranormal, occultish things
as part of their regime. And there was I mean,
this is real, Like Nazis really have these mystical leanings
like we're actually going to be able to lean on
these weapons of hell and be able to do that.
So they created more new myths than Nazis were harnessing
(07:32):
the power of Hell to their advantage, which makes sense
because they were Nazis who that's the kind of thing
that they would do. They might also play ads. Yeah,
out of the hell whole came crawling the the bloated
(07:52):
corpse of advertisements, and that made their way into podcasts.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, it was like you know, you see you see
like you know, Donald Trump pop out of this whole,
you see, like somebody who went to school to get
like an advertising degree pop up out.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Of the whole, Like is like social media ceo.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
There's Mark Zuckerberg. Wild It's it's crazy you crawled out
this whole. Yeah, I do think it's fun. Like I
say fun because I think this is just one of
the more interesting and maybe this is like my age,
Like there's a there's a great stand up that talks
about like how as you get older, like you just
get really interested in World War two, and this is
like one of those weird things that are like interesting
about World War two. Was this kind of like subset
(08:31):
of like Nazi research that was all about the occult
and all about like supernatural things, and like they were
specifically looking for things like the Holy Grail and the
Arc of the Covenant. They were looking for artifacts, yeah,
that were supposedly supernatural. So like this was it made
sense they found this place and tried to harness it
for like their power.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
All right, But he always asked the question, but why
we want to understand what's going on here? So this
is the part that makes the action this actually kind
of strange here based on what we understand of castles,
war and lore. This castle was not built on any
kind of strategic location, as many castles were as far
(09:10):
from trade routes, there's no nearby water sources. It's kind
of a weird anomaly that it exists in the place
that it exists at all.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, Like, there's no strategic advantage for it being there. Also,
like the way it's designed doesn't really make sense for
the way that castles are generally designed. The weapons are
pointed inward. The thickest walls are built up surrounding the
hole inside the castle for the cathedral, not on the
outside to prevent intruders. So the most sturdy walls are
built directly around the gateway to Hell.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah now, of course, why again, why this thing happens?
People love good stories. A rumor can really pass around
quite quickly. If it already exists alongside a narrative that
they've accept and adopted, then it just helps add to
the elaborate construct worldview that they have embraced. Sure, and
(10:02):
a single stare story that's shared among an already superstitious
group of people can create this It just further fuels
that mysticism and the legend and it becomes easy to
accept difficult to refute.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, and so so you know, as far as this
castle goes, is it strange? Yeah, it's weird. But now
you pair this with active imaginations, and you've got a
recipe for one of the spookiest places on Earth. What's
more likely to have happened? And what more likely what
this place was? It was established as either a residence,
an administrative building, or a political prison when it was
originally built, right, it was something that some people described
(10:37):
it being like an outpost almost to be able to
support and hold, like just so that they get the
kings could manage their lands, and so it was a
connective place between lands, but they still don't really know
what those lands were or any of those connections. And
based on what we know, prison might actually make the
most sense, even a temporary prison, if you've got people
inside the walls and the armament's pointed inside versus outside.
(10:58):
Like it's a location that's hard to get to, it's isolated,
it's remote. So the remoteness of the location and how
the weapons were aimed make it seem like it's probably
a good place to hold people just in case. But
that doesn't explain the bullfrog man. So it's still a mystery.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, exactly. It's like I think if you were to
look if someone were, for whatever reasons, to find like
remnants of casts of like prisons far in the future
and be like, it seems like this is really designed
to keep people in more than it is to keep
people out, and be like, Yep, that is exactly what
it was designed for. And honestly, like the tradition of
(11:32):
throwing people into holes as a part of their punishment,
that is a thing that people did. Yeah, if they
could find a hole they could throw people into, then
building a prison around that kind of probably felt like
a good idea at the time. Yeah, and it's very possible.
So I think if we take the plausible, reasonable explanations
of these Obviously some of the stories they came out
of here a purely legend hearsay it best and probably
(11:54):
fanciful things dreamed up by people who just wanted to
tell stories most of the time. But yeah, I imagine
that if you went down there, you probably would find
human remains and they'd probably be pretty gross. Yeah, and
you might even find a lot of them, which might
be particularly distressing. But yeah, that's that's the sort of
lore and I think the parsimonious understanding of this that
we might bring.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah. Absolutely, So going back to my best friend who
lives there and went there, she said that it was
one of the most boring castles she had ever been to,
So like, even though it's got all the spooky lore,
she's like, it was one of the worst ones I've
been to. Even though it's well preserved, it's just kind
of like a big block and the hole is not
even that interesting, and the basement that's supposed to be
(12:34):
the most haunted is only feels like it's only kind
of haunted. So like she's like, it's there. She basically said,
they're better castles to go to.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah. Well, and you know the thing is, like prisons
are boring, They are austere. Yeah, they are not ornate.
They are just kind of blocks that are meant to
hold people in place. And if you go to a
castle that was designed to host balls and hold royalty
and be central hubs for trade, then like those are
going to be ornate in deck created in large and
very fancy, and so like, it kind of makes sense
(13:03):
that a prison is going to be sort of a drab, uneventful,
not particularly visually striking place. So again, I think prisons
makes the most sense here and things in terms of
thinking about it, and we can ascribe all kinds of
fancy ideas to it, and that's really fun and we
enjoyed that from a storytelling perspective. But you know, we
(13:23):
love to We love to on this show, I think,
discuss and have fun with stories, and then we also
love to crush myths with science and facts and logical reasoning.
So yeah, yeah, absolutely, so we did that thing. So
I hope that you enjoyed it, and if you did,
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(13:44):
other castles that have gateways to Hell or any other
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frog Man.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
He's the Frogman.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Oh my gosh, we just did it. I mean possibly
it was like a split like we had RFK Junior
and Alex Jones came out anyway, I just had that
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Speaker 2 (15:00):
Hey, thank you. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Our social media coordinators Emma Wilson, and our audio engineer
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
That's true? He is.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Is there anything that I'm missing here that you'd like
to add before we wrap up this discussion today.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I mean, if you get a chance to go visit castles,
go do that because that's kind.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Of fun, very cool. All right. I think that's what
we have to say. I probably miss something, maybe not,
I don't know, but thank you for listening to this
mini and this is the end of our minis for
Spooky Month. I think that's it. So this is Abraham,
this is Shane. We're out.
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Bye.
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