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July 25, 2025 17 mins
Another tough loss for kids who grew up in the 80's and 90's...Hulk Hogan passed away at 71. There are few bigger names in entertainment, and his image trancended wrestling, But....

A whole bunch of hate for the Hulkster surfaced yesterday, stemming from his past comments. Would the hate have come if he hadn't endorsed a certain man currentky in the White House?

Florida Governor Ron Desantis put on a clinic on how to handle a heckler,

And is The View going away. No, not yet anyway. 
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
What you gonna do, brother? What an American weekend comes
for you? And we're almost there, but not without sad news.
What a week, good Lord, what a week for especially
this is true and this really kind of speaks to
gen X kids, kids of the eighties, a lot of you,
me all in that group. The losses we've had this week,
it's been a tough, tough week. Obviously the most recent

(00:27):
lose losing Hulk Hogan, the American legend. I'm gonna get
into something that really surprised me yesterday. I'm not a
big wrestling fan. I never really followed that, but you can't.
It doesn't a name and a personality like Hulk Hogan
transcend wrestling though. I mean, it's just you're at icon
status and losing him meant so much to so many people.
But the American if you want to call it, pop culture,

(00:48):
American culture, everything. It's a massive, massive loss. And of course,
the week we had coming off of losing Ozzie and
also speaking of the eighties, and we didn't even talk
about this seeing Malcolm Jamal Warner from The Cosby Show,
another eighties icon, and he really was from that show
at fifty four and not to mention. We also let

(01:10):
Chuck MANGIONI remember the trumpet Player. If you grow up
in the eighties and nineties, you couldn't avoid that song
in your house somewhere. So yeah, it's been tough for losses.
But you know what, I think the takeaway today is
never let anybody disparage who you consider a hero. Don't
let them. We'll get into that in a second. But

(01:30):
also it's a good reminder and I just got a
feeling after all of this, it's got everybody more interested
in bringing back icons again. Right. It's like when we
lost Ozzie, there was a call for and the searches
and the interest, according to Google trends, has never been
higher for metal music. The resurgence of the eighties and
nineties just may be coming as well, because, let's face it,

(01:51):
let's be completely honest, wasn't it better? Didn't I don't
want to be one of those back in the day guys,
but wasn't it better with all the stuff we had?
As cheesy as it was. Let's go back to that anyway,
Let's get to it. Thanks for finding me, Thanks for
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(02:11):
or listening on replay on X later on or the
other socials, just press follow and we'll make it a community.
There you go. Well it it comes across every once
in a while as somebody that transcends whatever sport, genre

(02:32):
form of entertainment they do. And you can't deny that
Hulk Hogan was one of those personalities. I mean, the
first thing I thought of this was he even had
his own theme song. You remember this, remember, real American.
I know you've seen it, just I mean you if

(02:54):
you have your own theme song, and I guess that
became part of his wrestling intro to. But you saw
it everywhere and Hulks his name and his image were
on serial boxes and in movies. Remember he was Thunderlips
and Rocky three remember that one. In other people's music videos.
Of course, the wrestling career, but all of that launched.

(03:14):
I don't know if I can think of anybody in
any form of entertainment that grabbed a better hold of
that image and took the reins of it and made
it what it was. I mean, just absolutely amazing. Sadly,
some of the details died at seventy one, shocking to
a lot of people. I guess the insiders and people
who knew him were saying that the health problems that

(03:34):
dogged him through the years were just horrific. I had
seen a Joe Rogan interview with Hull Cogan a couple
of months ago that was done the previous year, I think,
and he was talking about the injuries as you can
imagine through wrestling, but he also in a massive battle
with prescription drugs, Like he said, the doctors tried to
kill me with ventanyl and what he went through to

(03:56):
go over that, and of course the surgeries, the back surgery.
So that's all, you know, that's all part of his
personal life that everybody knows. But it's this public persona
that meant so much to people and still does obviously.
Just look at the memorials and people reaching out and
talking about that. Everybody from you know, any age group
you can imagine, and very famous people too, talking about

(04:18):
this guy being one of their first childhood heroes. He
was all of that and he did. It's not you know,
it sounds like you're overestimating it, but it does matter
to be in that public persona a hero to people.
What was it? You know, each your vitamins, prey, do
your homework, all that stuff. Now a lot to kids.
It still does all of that stuff, and that public

(04:39):
image private might have been a little bit different, obviously,
But I gotta tell you this is what shocked me
the most yesterday. Now I didn't follow wrestling. I've ever
been a big wrestling fan, you know, definitely aware of it.
I know all the personalities as far as what they
do and what they're about. I get that. I love
that the WWE stayed active and they didn't cancel any

(05:01):
events during COVID. I thought that was fantastic. WrestleMania is
like an event that's it's as big as the Super Bowl. Seriously,
that's how much money it brings in. So I understand
all of that. What I didn't get I I was
kind of sort of aware of the news stories and
talking about it back in the day on radio. But
what shocked me yesterday was not only the announcement that

(05:24):
that Hull Cogan had died at seventy one, but you know,
there's that and the memorials coming. You're like, oh my god,
this is just crazy. You know, it's I guess he
hadn't really hadn't been doing well, went off to do
some other stuff during my day, and I come back.
All you could see, all I could see and hear
was the hate coming for the guy in popular culture.
It was just it was just amazing, and it actually

(05:46):
took me back. I'm like, this can't be. This has
to be fake news. That this why is somebody starting
a hate campaign against Hulkogan? And you look back and
I understand the reasons why and all this this other stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
But.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Apparently they're using that as as an excuse this. This
was a huge story back in the early twenty tens.
Let's call it that. I might remember this where there
was a hidden camera. It caught him in a sex
tape in a lascivious three way kind of situation with
Bubba the love Sponge and his wife and all this
other stuff. Hulk didn't know he was being recorded, and

(06:22):
that was bad. Wound up suing the Gawker publication for
hundreds of millions UT dollars, remember that, So that was
a big win after all that, But what came out
of that. Part of that recording that resurfaced later was
Hulk saying some racist stuff about who his daughter was dating.
So there was that, which is never good obviously, but

(06:43):
he also didn't know he's being recorded. I understand that,
but that gets to that separation between the public persona
and the private persona and what happened, but it dogged
him for years, and also some inside fights apparently in wrestling.
And here's the stuff I really didn't know about. Apparently
he you know, been an alpha character. You know, he's
a business person. He was trying to keep his name

(07:04):
on top. He stepped a lot of people along the way,
allegedly to do it. You'll find that in any business.
I get that. But what shocked me was just the
hate over this, even as in this is one I
wasn't aware of. Boot off the stage in LA in
January at a WrestleMania event. Well it was in l

(07:24):
a number one, but also it sounded like this. So
this sadly turned out to be Hulk Hogan's last wrestling
public appearance and they boot him. It's that's a that's
a real That was all over the headline. So people

(07:50):
felt the need to resurface that all day long yesterday,
and then I thought about it, and I'm like, not
a second first, this is something something's not adding up here,
you know, and you put the pieces together for somebody
who an American icon, even people who are controversial, always
at least takes a couple of days before anybody digs
up some dirt from their past or the hate they
have for him, or you know. I'm like, I'm thinking

(08:12):
about this and I'm like, oh my god, it's right
in front of my face. The hate came from you
know what I'm gonna say. You know exactly what it was.
He spoke at the r NC last year right before
the election. Any any stumped for Trump. Of course, that's
where they hates coming.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
And they tried to kill the next president of the
United States.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Enough blaws, enough said.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Tamania ron while brother left Trump Omania rule again, left Tamania,
make Oma cry again.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I remember that, Remember the scene in the crowd and
then they then they flashed Trump and He's like he
just absolutely loved it, you know, the promoter being what
he is, base loved it. And I remember saying this
at the time, and I think everybody agreed don't discount
how valuable an endorsement to the magabase somebody like hul
Cogan was it is. You know, that was a massive,

(09:13):
massive thing reaching out to that base. It was absolutely huge.
So here's what I'm getting at, this shocking hate that
came out for Hulkogan yesterday out of every corner of
the universe, and there was a lot of it. You
can still see it today, don't fool yourself. I think
what we can learn here is, despite the controversies of

(09:35):
the past, whatever he said or did that was caught
on a hidden video before, maybe not well liked in
his own industry, among his peers, whatever, all of that stuff,
none of that would have surfaced and brought out and
bubbled out the hate that came out yesterday for this
guy if he hadn't done just that. This is what

(09:55):
this is where politics are so fricking gross. Right, If
hulk Hogan had done the DNC and campaign for Kamala
and still had those controversies in his back, in his background,
the hidden audio videootape controversies, blah blah blah, whatever it was.
You think we're really seeing and feeling and hearing all

(10:16):
this hate for this guy today. There is an absolutely
no way, no. I will never believe that. I didn't
even think of it at first, that that may be
the reason why. But it's still staring at us right
in the face. They always could because he dared to
stump and politic and campaign and endorse Trump at the
Republican National Convention. That's where all this resurfaced hate came from.

(10:39):
Instead of taking a beat for a second and just saying, wow,
lost an American icon. Yeah, that's what it is. That's
exactly what it is, no matter how you feel about
the guy. But I'll never believe that this wasn't related
to that. Of course it was absolutely was, But there's
that the takeaway. You gotta be able to separate a
public image from a private image. And if that guy's status,

(11:02):
if that guy's image meant something to you and your
childhood or now or your kids, don't let anybody knock
that off. Don't let anybody try to convince you who
your idols are. You believe what you believe. Believable. God,
it was such a shame. I mean, I honestly thought
I thought there would be after the Ozzie Laws, another
one this week. I thought there would be like hate

(11:22):
people saying he's a devil worshiper. I didn't even see that.
Like people who believe that. Even they took a beat
because Ozzy wasn't in politics. There's your perfect example. But
Hulk finally came out of the woodwork and he did
jump into support Trump. That's where the hate's coming from.
Don't fool yourself, of course, that's where it's coming from.
But there were all kinds of dedications, including from one

(11:43):
Ron DeSantis. Yesterday, so he had some I don't even
know where it was in one of the sixty seven
Florida counties. Yesterday. He was speaking at some public event
and he had just heard the news about Hulk Hogan,
and this is ironic. He starts talking about what an
icon Hulk Hogan was to him through childhood and through
the nineties and even today and his kids and I

(12:03):
guess the family had met hulcub several times whatever. So
he was in the middle of his speech, he started
to tell some Hulk stories, well kind of sorta related
to that. He had a protester, a Heckler in the crowd,
and this is a great takeaway for all of us,
and how to handle being faced with being heckled publicly.

(12:24):
Desantus is getting really good at this. He used to
not be, but he is. He just kept on rolling. Ironically,
he was in the middle of talking about Hulk Hogan
at the time when he faced this hate in the crowd.
But this is exactly what happened. There's a couple of
f bombs in here from the heckler, from the loser
in the crowd. I'll try to like talk over that,
but you may hear it anyway.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
So and so, like the first few WrestleManias I think
were like that. And I remember WrestleMania three, he was up, hey, stop, stop, stop,
I'm get out of here, get out of here, Get
out of here, Get out of here, get out of here,
get out of here now.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
So we used to have the closed circuit, so you
would go and you would and then he went on
and he just started talking back about WrestleMania Hall Cogan stories. Great.
He just kept on rolling. I will tell you, if
you've ever done any public speaking in any kind of
a crowd and see including a hostile crowd, man', that's
a skill to learn and it's really valuable. And now

(13:23):
this has it while ironically he's talking about hul Cogan.
He gets heckled by this guy who I think he was.
I don't know what I heard in there too. Was
he talking about Alligator Ally? Trump? It gets to the
point where the protesters you don't even know what they're
angry about anymore. So the lesson is from DeSantis, and
he did a great job with this. Just keep on Roland,

(13:43):
keep on talking. Happened to be talking about hull Cogan
at the time, so he continued on with that message.
But he could have been talking about anything else, policy,
alligator ally, property taxes, who the hell knows. But good
job there by DeSantis. That's going to really help when
he does run for president again, because you know that's
gonna happen. All right. I got to clear up some

(14:04):
fake news that I got excited about to yesterday. I
was all excited and I heard it mostly from others
people's reaction. But the reaction I think is the news
story here. So the disgusting albatross's on the view, of course,
which is you want to talk about hate, that's where
most of the hate just comes from. That's their whole
business model. Joy Bayhart gets on there and she said

(14:28):
something that got everybody all excited. What she said was
this and before we go.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
On hiatus, will only have one more show after this.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I'm allowed to say that ry.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Too late now, so it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, before we go I want And they went into
talking about more Trump hate and Trump arrangement syndrome which
she is infected by, and all this other stuff. All right,
what she said, we only have one more show that
got everybody all excited. Me too, I'm guilty as well.
They're not being canceled. It's just a scheduled hia hiatus.
Apparently so much so the reaction, and this is the

(15:02):
interesting part. The reaction built up so quickly in trending
news about the View being canceled that ABC had to
come out with a statement saying, no, they're just on
a scheduled hiatus, one more pre recorded show before that.
Heatis that's all it is, all right, So that's disappointing.
So that turned out to be a little bit of
fake news. They're not being canceled. Here's the story. Don't

(15:23):
look past it. We're in a world now after Colebart
getting canceled, where it's totally plausible for those Hags to
go away totally plausible. In fact, when she said that,
it was so plausible that everybody thought that's what she meant,
and and there was so much celebration over this that

(15:45):
it actually got to the heads and the PR department
of ABC and they had to release a statement. That's
the good news. So even if you're disappointed that the
view is still going to exist, God, I hate it
even playing the sound of her today, it's just that awful.
Good news is there's a lot of interest in that
thing going away. Couldn't you see that thing getting canceled

(16:05):
like soon? And the other propaganda late night hosts who
aren't even comedians anymore, they're just talk boxes for one
particular political party. Couldn't you see them going away soon? Too?
Absolutely you could, and believe me, these producers and these
networks know that as well. It could happen. So the
next time we actually are talking about here on the

(16:26):
live stream in the podcast, the view getting canceled, it's
not gonna be shocking at all, but we will celebrate
and celebrate you should. You know, a tough week Eric
losing all these icons, especially for anybody else in gen X.
If you grew up in the eighties and nineties, all
these all these classic heroes, Ozzy, Hulk, Hogan, even Malcolm

(16:49):
Jamal Warner from The Cosby Show. Losing him too just awful,
just sad news. But here's the takeaway. Here's what you
gotta do. You gotta celebrate what they brought, either the
music or the on stage entertainment or the TV show
and all that good stuff. And don't ever ever let
anybody disparage your heroes just because the haters didn't like

(17:12):
their politics. That's just ridiculous. All right, next week's going
to be better. We had a lot of bad news
this week, so it's going to be better. And also
here let's start it off with this. Here's the first
piece of good news. It's Friday. Thanks you for finding
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