September 22, 2023 • 38 mins
Dr. Patricia Petralba is a proud Filipina leading the way in minority leadership while using integrated medicine to help women take control of their health and their lives. WEE have discussed burnout before but WEE have some serious pearls of wisdom from Dr. Patricia and our Brain Lady Julie on the importance of taking care of YOU on "Queen Mode."
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Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcomeeveryone to this edition of the Women Entrepreneurs
Extraordinaire podcast. We're actually, eventhough it's under that banner of the we
the Women Entrepreneurs Extraordinarire, we're kindof doing a little bit of rebranding and
including women excelling everywhere. So thetopic for the podcast this afternoon is one
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that is going to be of interestfor everyone, even if you are in
a corporate work setting, or youaren't in a work setting at all,
you could be a caregiver, becausewe're going to be giving some information about
burnout and how very important it isthat we pay attention to this. If
you look at some of the lateststatistics on burn out and how I don't
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want to say popular it is,but how alarming it is because it is
really becoming quite an epidemic. Accordingto one statistic that I read, it
showed that eighty nine percent of Americanshave suffered from burnout in this past year
in the twenty twenty two to twentytwenty three years, that's significant. Eighty
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nine percent people, that's almost nineout of every ten people are experiencing symptoms
of burnout and those symptoms come infeelings of physical fatigue, of cognitive weariness,
in other words, just not beingable to focus and concentrate, poor
sleep, emotional stresses. Right,So there's a lot of negative things that
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are coming out of this almost burnoutepidemic that we are faced with. There's
a lot of different reasons for that. Some of it is the work load,
right, It's just what are youcarrying as an entrepreneur. Are you
trying to juggle too many things andbe this solo preneur and do it all
yourself? That could be leading toburnout. If you are in the corporate
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world, is your position, yourjob? Have they because of this?
Every company is kind of straining tofind new employees and new workers. Are
you being overworked? Right? Areyou carrying too many responsibilities? If you're
a leader in the world of corporateis that are you having to manage a
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lot more because you have a lotless people to do the work that is
being that needs to be done.If you are a woman in leadership in
the corporate environment, this is itmight really affect you as well because women
tend to balance more just kind ofby default, whether it's a societal expectations,
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family expectations, whatever. The situationis they tend to do most of
the parenting, the soft's parenting stuff, the shopping, the laundry, the
house, those types of things,and so oftentimes they can that can lead
to a little bit of burnout aswell. So that's that's it's important that
we address this and that we addresssome of the things that we can do
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to deal with it. How dowe restructure that, restructure things in our
life so that we aren't in aburnout state constantly. What are some of
the tips and tricks. Well,we're going to do an interview with doctor
Patricia Petrolba in just a few minutes, but I'm going to throw in at
the beginning that there's a few things. And you've heard me harp on this
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on other podcasts or other little videosif you follow me on Instagram or YouTube
shorts. I talk a lot aboutthat self care aspect and not in the
in the you know, manicures,pedicures, that type of thing, but
really, god that those aren't funfrom time to time. I'm gonna tell
you, I you know, massagesare healthy for you, but more in
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the just the practical things that youreally need to do on a daily basis
and there are three main things thatare run overally emphasize to everyone as before
we go into this interview. Frommy point of view, the top is
taking care of your sleep, makingsure you're getting adequate sleep. If you're
not getting adequate sleep, if you'renot sleeping well, then your brain is
not up to snuff. And ifyour brain's not up to snuff, then
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that's going to lead to the fogginessand the lack of actual ability to concentrate,
which is going to add to thestresses in any portion of your life
and just compound any types of burnoutsituation. The second is your hydration and
your food right, make sure thatyou're eating and you're drinking plenty of good
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clean water on a regular basis,daily, daily, daily, making sure
you're getting more of the good andless of the bad. I know we
harp on that a lot, butwhen you look as a brain a certified
brain health professional, when you lookat the functioning of the brain, these
are things that are critical for yourbrain to work at its optimal point,
at its optimal level. Right.The third is exercise. Now, I
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want to expand the exercise. Italk a lot about how exercise should be
a non negotiable in your daily life, and when doing that, you want
to do at least thirty minutes ofcardio. I have certain things that I
do. I normally jump on myelliptical because that's what's easy for me.
It's in the house that I cando it. Any type of weather too
hot, I can do it.If it's too cold outside, I can
do it. But I want toreally encourage for your mental health and to
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help you manage burnout symptoms of fatigue. Try to do some of that,
some of that exercise just simply bygetting outside and walking, walking in green
spaces and then pausing throughout your walkto just take a couple of deep breaths,
slow down, smell the air,Smell the greenery. If you can
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be out among the trees, actuallygo over and touch the grass, touch
the plant. Stand a barefoot ifyou are, if you have on the
grass and in the dirt. Imean, it really is good for your
body in so many different areas.It is my belief as the brain lady
that if you take care of yourbrain first, the four pillars of success
that we address with your best mindis brain health first, mind health second.
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Those two are intertwined and oftentimes bouncebetween first and second, and then
when you have those in alignment,then the next is relationship and business or
career success. And when you havethe first two set and really strong,
then number three and number four aregoing to flow beautifully. Then you can
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work on your relationships because you're workingwith a full brain and a happy mind.
All right. So those are kindof my little tips that I wanted
to throw in here at the beginningof the podcast before we invite in our
our guest for today. So giveme just a second and we'll invite her
into the room and we'll be ableto welcome her and get to some of
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her wisdom on how to deal withthe stresses and the burnouts for individuals today,
especially those powerful women out there.We have an amazing, wonderful interview
to do today with a wonderful guest. She is doctor Patricia. Let me
make sure I pronounced this right,Patrolba, you did it right. I
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love it. I love it.And she is joining us from Tucson,
Arizona, and her business is ThriveLive Center. Let me read you just
a little bit of her. Youknow, her professional background and interest and
expertise and then we'll get into reallywho is doctor Patricia so. Doctor Patricia
Petralba is a founder of Thrive LifeCenter, which is an integrative medicine West
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Wellness center in Tucson, Arizona,and the head coach of the of Revive
and Thrive program. She is passionateabout sharing her knowledge that transforms lives the
holistic and sustainable way so that highlyambitious women can perform without the burnout and
feel fulfilled in all areas of herlife. She wishes to create space for
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minority leaders to have a voice inthe conversation of the healing, arts and
entrepreneurship. She's proud to be pioneering. A pioneering Filipina trained in integrative medicine,
special specialty and hypno birthing. Shehas a special interest in mind body
medicine, stress reduction, acupuncture,women's health and energy healing. Welcome to
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the program, doctor Patricia, Thankyou, Julie. I'm so excited to
yeah, nurture audience and have thisconversation. I love it and I think
it's it's such an important It's funnythat topic of burnout is and we can
go in a lot of different wehave a lot of similarity, you know,
the mind, body, brain.You know, we could go in
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a lot of different directions, butyou know, since you are passionate about,
you know, the managing the burnoutfor individuals, especially women and what
they have to deal with, Ithink that's a really valuable topic to focus
on today. And prior to bringingyou in, I talked about some of
the alarming statistics. I mean currentlyalmost nine out of ten people in the
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United States anyways, I mean don'thave the global figures, but a feel
that have felt a sense of burnoutin the last year. Wow, Like
that was just an amazing statistic.What are you finding in your practice that
that is revealing to you the needfor addressing this topic very consistent with that
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you know, nationwide statistic. Alot of my patients are experiencing burnout,
and what's interest thing is there isa disconnect and identification that they are burning
out. They think that they arein like they're just doing something wrong on
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why they don't have the energy,they don't have the libido or kind of
having these you know, emotional eitheranxiety or depression. And when there's a
little bit of objectivity, meaning likeBiomarkers Labs nutritional panel that we go through.
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I've had some actually a lot ofpatients that are shocked. I'm like,
wow, people really need to havethat bridge and connection of they almost
need that feedback. Even though thebody and the mind is like screaming,
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I'm tired, I'm burning out,they still need that biomarkers like you're adrenal
fatigue. Like they need me tosay that one more time in a different
language, you know. So anyways, I feel like I am a translator.
I am translating for them in alanguage that connects to them of what
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their body, mind and spirit iscommunicating very clearly. Yeah that's yeah,
no answer, but yes, no, no, I appreciate that, and
it's very I think it's very true. We have Oh look at you,
you're putting me in a shame there. Look at your water. This one's
my one gallon. I love it. I told everyone before I brought you
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in my three trot tips, andone of them is you know your hydration.
You need to hydrate. That soimportant. But I think that's right,
I think in in Western society especially, and that's beautiful of what I
think is beautiful about what you're doingis connecting those two back thirty years ago.
What started me in this whole journeyinto the brain is I initially was
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studying natural health because I had that, you know, I just knew,
and I'm not really sure how.It wasn't necessarily something that my family did
or my mother did. It wasjust I knew in my late teens that
if I listened to my body andif I fed my body correctly, meaning
not just literally food, but exercise, food, healthy, mental water,
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all that kind of stuff, thatI felt better, I performed better,
I had more energy. So Iknew that as opposed to taking a medicine,
taking better care of my body,my body and its beautiful way would
take care of itself. So Iwas drawn to that. But in general,
I think you're right. Most peoplethey want to see it on a
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piece They want to see a bargraph on a piece of paper that says
here's normal, and here's where I'mat, and it's below normal. So
I need to do this. Yes, in many ways, it's like a
sort of denial. It's an entirebecause they're perceived demand is high, and
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so they want to keep up withthat corporate expectation. And there again the
disconnect of what the body is currentlygoing through and navigating how can I still
perform excellent in my C suite andbeing an executive, being a business owner,
being an entrepreneur, while honoring beinga woman, while honoring having a
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third dimensional physical body that is amachine that needs to be said, that
needs to sleep, that's needs beturned off, not yes, a corporate
machine, you know. And mycurrent kind of message that I want to
hammer down because we are talking tomostly women out here, is you know,
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being a holistic provider to the mainphilosophy behind for me personally, who
listen is root cause medicine, right, like, what is the root cause
of burnout? Connecting to women's health. And there are two root causes that
I've seen across the board, whetherI'm in Asia here in Northern America is
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one childhood, early childhood is andI'm also an early childhood mother. So
I'm deeply like exploring this early childhood, the first seven years our connection and
how we can deeply listen to thebody signals the same way as you know
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how we train party training, hungersignals, us sleep week cycle signals.
So that's the primary fundamental mind bodyconnection and the second layer of root cast
as a woman that I think getsso lost the moment we're in our academic
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life, in corporate life and motherhoodand beyond. Is imagine if we were
so connected to our cycles and ourhormonal hell that it is the same acuity
of listening to I'm hungry, Ineed to eat, translating to women's cycle,
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I'm ovulating, this is the timeto be creative, I am in
my menstrual face, this is thetime to rest, reflect and let myself
shed. Can you imagine the impactif we were that aware the same bodily
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function of I need to be thisis currently my hormonal standards. Yeah,
yeah, that's powerful. That's powerful. And how would you so on that
because we do have a lot oflisteners that are in that you know,
gen X situation where we've kind ofgone past that cycling. We've gone into
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the the permanent rest cycle, ifyou will, from and beyond. I
hear, yeah, yeah, numberone. You know, again, back
to early childhood, a lot ofthe signals were dismissed, whether that's hunger,
tiredness, lee being mentioned those cycles. It's suppressed and somewhere deep in
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our nervous system that gets buried.So how can we be in tune because
even if we're in menopause or beyond, we are still cycling. In many
ways, we are linear because ourhormonal physiology is very connected to the moon.
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So the outer moon is very reflectiveof our inner moon, which is
our ovaries and our uterus, soconnecting that too, there are a lot
of signals that we cut because weneeded to have the eye on the target.
We needed to meet a deadline,we needed to study for an exam,
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we needed to hit this whatever deadline, and the body then feels unsafe
to pause. And so if werecognize that those the origin majority is the
non verbal part of our years zeroto seven, the way to debrief from
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that to listen better beyond menopause,so that we know what our body,
mind, and soul really needs.It's also beyond talk therapy too, so
it's really like connecting back to thefashion, to the movement to you know,
massage. So it's no language,it's kind of the knowledge of the
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body, how the body feels saved, how the body feels no guilt and
shame in right now, and cyclewith it, cycle the moon, so
that you are preventing burnout. Soreally kind of that link like this is
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beyond knowledge, beyond logic. Mybody needs to kind of unpack this memory
that was so ingrained to not pause, Yeah, to keep doing. Yeah,
I think that's definitely And you caneven see how when you really think
about societal expectations and the school systemand all of the way that it is
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ran and the deadlines, like we'retraining our children to achieve certain things in
certain ways on certain time timeframes.And yes, in order to have some
organization in society, there's a certainamount of that that needs to be implemented.
However, it does disconnect you fromreally stopping and listening and taking care
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of of yourself. One of thethings that I really try to encourage people
is just taking pause and going outand walking in green spaces, even if
it's just short amounts of time,and touching the grass and touching the leaves
and you know, experiencing nature becausethat really helps to calm your nervous system
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and calm calm your brain down.What are some real tangible like when you're
working, I mean you kind oftouched on in and went into to reprogramming,
not reprogramming, but going back unprogramming, right, what's in there?
But what are some other like you'vegot? We both probably interact with a
lot of very highly driven women.You know, I work with C suite
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executives who are women leaders, withhighly high performing women entrepreneurs, and they
have a hard time stopping. Andyou mentioned the word guilt right, because
they maybe feel a little guilty becausethey feel that they have this expectation for
themselves and if they don't hit it, they feel guilty. And then that
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plays with the mind, which playswith brain chemistry, and it just messes
everything up. But so, whatare ways advice that you would give to
highly driven women entrepreneurs or someone whois climbing that corporate ladder to prevent burnout?
Yes, and then to manage itif they already have it, So
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kind of a two part question likehow can you work to prevent it?
But if you're in the middle ofit and you know you're feeling it,
what can you do to work withit? Right? Right? So the
layers at what I heard from youis that you know, like there's still
that guilt because most of these womenthat we serve are very smart. They
know what healthy is they know whatto eat, they know they need to
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take breaks, they know going outin nature is healthy for them, and
yet the programming is so hardwired thateven though they know logically, how can
how is it that the behavior isso hard to break? And that's why
I started with the non verbal partof our years and we So then it's
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that reprogramming of maybe finding a bodyworker, like working with your fasha hiro
bractor, kind of regulate in yournervous system. Number one, find a
body worker, because sometimes it's trappedin the body, that wiring, that
memory of the moment they become still. It's such an unfamiliar feeling for highly
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driven woman Hello like me before youknow, so I could completely relate.
I needed that energy of doing toyou know, get these degrees and all
these training, and so we kindof lean on that masculine doing energy.
So a body worker is a veryexcellent, pleasurable way to deprogram yourself.
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Number two. You also mentioned,you know, going out in nature,
so connecting with the five elements toto really feel alive inside. So the
element of light or fire, naturalsunlight, the element of air. Most
of these women are in artificial air, so going out in nature water,
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So you want a live water thatis mostly alkaline to prevent oxidation or stress
or aging. You want it tobe contained in a natural space to like
steel or glass or silica. Becausewater is at least seventy percent of what
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we're made off, So you wantto tank yourself up with water that is
alive. What are the other naturesof earth? So it could be grounding,
like literally putting your feet on theground. Perfect, no shoes,
Take those shoes up, take thosesocks off. Yes, Because we are
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batteries. We are walking electric andmagnetic beams, and when we touch the
ground, there's a lot of kindof that electromagnetic smug from MM from electricity,
tea from power, you know,boxes that we take on that the
cells feels like, oh my gosh, this is so uncomfortable. But when
you put your feet on the ground, it almost washes that a way.
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It recalibrates you back to what thebody actually wants. Not the same thing
with the house. You know howwhen we build a house, electricians literally
need to ground the house so thatit's not a wire right. Yeah,
yeah, so kind of I thinkI was just reiterating and kind of giving
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you a different layer on why weneed to be in nature in natural spaces.
Yeah, yeah, so bodywork naturewater and the thing is also with
water, regardless of how much youdrink. But if it's not with the
right amount of minerals, we're justbeing it out, so we're not really
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hydrating ourselves. So the one ofthe best ways to rehydrate yourself is supplementing
with Irish sea moss. Irish seamosh. It has a good blend of
minerals that will help you retain thatwater. M M good. I haven't
I've heard of the Irish sea moss, but I haven't heard that connection before
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that you just made. Yeah,yeah, that's powerful. So many things
that we need to do, anda lot of times all these seem they
seem like simple steps, right,go put your take your shoes and socks
off and put it on the ground, right Like seem simple, but it
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the implementation isn't always easy for alot of these women. Is what I
have found in working with some clientsis that they just it's like that implementation,
they just get caught up in whatdo you suggest to help them implement?
Like do you do you suggest beingworking with a practitioner, or setting
alarms on your phone. But Ihate setting alarms on the phone because one
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of the things I tell people isthey have to disconnect from technology, Like,
like, what's some good tips tohelp help a woman do that reprogram
or a man if they're dealing withthis. Of course, it's not like
it's one hundred percent a woman's issue. Lots of men experience burnout as well,
But like, what's a really goodthing that you tell people? Like
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this is what you do? Doyou just start by making appointment with a
practitioner that's going to do the bodywork. Is that the best first step?
Or is the best first step doingone little thing each day? Like
what do you suggest, what doyou think's best to really motivate someone to
actually do this, Because that's oneof my big pet peeves, Doctor Petorgio,
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I gotta tell you. You givethe person all the answers and you
see them six months later and theyfeel worse than they did when you first
saw him, And I'm like,well did you do this? And I'm
like, now, did you dothat? Now? Yes, I hear
you. I mean I'm on thesame boat. And I think it's a
very individualized path and the secret sauceto keep things going and to activate.
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Actually what you need to do orthe soul calling, the body calling,
the mind calling is it has tobe fun. It has to be joyful,
it has to be pleasurable, andit has to be connected with your
purpose. Because if it's connected towhat feels good, everything else becomes easy,
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you know. And that's the workright there, kind of really aligning
and identifying this feels good. Ithink this is my purpose. This is
why I want to be an executivein this position because I get to change
women lives. I get to providefor my family. I get to be
the face of a certain I don'tknow minority group. I get to run
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a company that I don't know honorsthe feminine biology. I don't know.
Whatever her purpose is, she hasto be reminded what got her there in
the first place, you know.So it's almost like insight and foresight.
So I love kind of coaching women. The first time we see each other
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is three ways of viewing is hindsight. You have to look back, what
are the patterns with kind of whatwe talked about the root causes. You
have to know the patterns from yourlineage, to your family, to your
environment, the good and the bag, so that you can cut off the
things that you don't like and thenyou can enhance what you actually really like
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inside, like why am I herein the first place? What feels good
to me? And foresight all Andthis is where women get caught up.
They get caught up, and actuallyboth men and women they got They get
caught up like why am I feelingtired? What is no? But they
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can't bridge to well, what isyour north? What's the end point?
Like why do you even want tofeel better? Why do you even out
of burnout? And will you reallydo and show up for your north when
you actually have that energy? Whenwe get back to out of burnout?
Will you really go hiking? Willyou really take that surfing trip? Will
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you really cresit the family that yousaid you wanted to have energy and time?
When you know so breaking like whydid you want to earn x amount
of money in the first place tohave that ptation in that trip space?
And it's usually freedom autonomy doing whatthey really enjoy is the point, you
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know, So I think that threeways of viewing. If they know what
north is, yeah, that's good. That's good. That's that's important,
getting back in touch to why theystarted the whole thing in the first place.
Yeah, yeah, Now you talkabout something. One of the questions
that we have here is why ispleasure? Pleasure a recipe for performance?
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So it's kind of continuing that thoughtthat you're thinking or that you started on,
you know, the whole getting backto the why you know, did
you do it for the freedom?Did you do it so that you could
go do these different things? Right? So what is that? Unpack that
one for us? Yes? Okay, so pleasure, No, when I
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when I mean pleasure, it's reallykind of that experience of expansion. It's
almost like that experience of orgasam andorgasm is like, you can't have an
orgasm if you're in the doing mode, if you're in the worry mode.
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No, And I want to bridgeand connect that to the female body,
where we have the code and theintelligence and the wisdom inside of us that
we can produce and create a humanbeing without literally doing anything just received.
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So translate that to our corporate life. A woman's creativity is usually ignited when
we are in the queen mode,like oh my gosh, this flower is
beautiful, this garden is beautiful,this meal is beautiful, and then boom
boom, boom boom, all thecreativity just gets there. And I think
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that's the missing piece. We thinkwe can power through productivity when it's really
that posh and pull, you know, you push when you're already seeded with
that pleasure and from a hormonal andphysical standpoint, when you have a healthy
mix of pleasure hormones oxytocin right assome hormones and court is all stress testosterone
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doing hormone, that's when it becomessustainable. It really has to be that
posh and pull. We think thatpausing and having that pleasurable experience is a
waste of time when that is thefertilizer. Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'swhat's going to help you on the other
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side's I like that. That's abeautiful way of looking at it. So
in as we wrap up, becauseI don't want to say I don't want
to, we could. I I'mjust my brain's going with a lot of
additional questions and we have some herethat that you provided me with that we
haven't gotten to yet. So I'malmost seeing a a part two to our
conversation. Yeah, I would lovethat, but let's just let's just finish
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up with helping with your your you'rekind of your top tips of how can
individuals listening deal with health and healing? Like, what's that kind of that
first step? What's the way thatthey can do it where it's sustainable and
it's not like, oh, Juliejust gave me the ten top tips and
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I can't do ten things right.What's what's your advice to those listening to
get started and be able to tocommit to something that's gonna be sustainable,
that's gonna that they can continue todo m There's so many ways, No,
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what what could be the first step? I think the first step is
really pausing listening, listening to whatis and lead yourself with love. Self
leadership with love is love is honestlythe most powerful healing force and emotion.
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And a friendly reminder to those whoare listening that the heart, the heart
space is actually five thousand times moreelectric and magnetic charge than the brain.
So that's why I always like returnto the heart, like what does the
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heart tell you what feels good?And versus like, oh, because I
have to do this or the guildor the power through you know, and
that's not bad, like it getsus doing things, but return to the
heart like the self leadership with partI think is a good first step so
you don't feel like you're beating yourselfup. Yeah, I love it,
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Yeah, I love it. Suchgreat advice. Well, doctor Patricia,
thank you so much for being onThe Women Entrepreneur Show. And I do
my as you're talking, my brains, you know, working in different going.
Oh, we need to do aLinkedIn live. We need to do
this, we need to do it. So we're going to have to definitely
open up another conversation on this topicand expand even more. I appreciate and
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I'm honored that you spent the timewith us this afternoon. My pleasure.
Thank you very much. All Right, for those who are listening, be
sure there are lots of ways toget in touch. Let me read,
let me touch on these really quick, lots of ways to get in touch
with or stay connected, I shouldsay to doctor Patricia. She is on
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Instagram at Thrive Life Center LLLC,the same with Facebook Thrive Live Center Center
p LC. Sorry, yes PLC. And then her LinkedIn is a little
bit longer so we're going to putthat all of these and all of these
contacts are in Her contact information isin the show notes. Her website of
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course is Thrivelfcenter dot com and heremail info at I NFO info at thrivelifecenter
dot com. And then you havedo you have anything that you want to
just highlight for or you have likea mentorship program that you do that you
could real quick tell our listeners aboutif they wanted to reach out to you
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and get more information on. Absolutelyso. I do global coaching. So
it's called the Revivant Thrive Program andit's really focused on avoid being and going
beyond burnout and thrive in all areasof your life. So they can simply
email me to know more about howI can facilitate their healing, whether it's
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one on one group or a selfbased course. Yeah, but I love
love love one on ones. Iknow you get to connect and build relationships
that way better. I'd like that. All right, again, thank you
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that needs to be discussed more openlyand kind of remove the sh aim from
it. It's not a guilt thing. It just is a thing and we
need to learn how to address itso that we can thrive in our lives
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and live happier, healthier lives.So thank you once again very much for
being on the Women Entrepreneurs Podcast andfor joining us and listening. Bye bye
for now, And as I liketo tell everybody, roll your shoulders back,
take a nice deep breath, goout there and simply enjoy every moment
Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcomeeveryone to this edition of the Women Entrepreneurs
Extraordinaire podcast. We're actually, eventhough it's under that banner of the we
the Women Entrepreneurs Extraordinarire, we're kindof doing a little bit of rebranding and
including women excelling everywhere. So thetopic for the podcast this afternoon is one
(00:37):
that is going to be of interestfor everyone, even if you are in
a corporate work setting, or youaren't in a work setting at all,
you could be a caregiver, becausewe're going to be giving some information about
burnout and how very important it isthat we pay attention to this. If
you look at some of the lateststatistics on burn out and how I don't
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want to say popular it is,but how alarming it is because it is
really becoming quite an epidemic. Accordingto one statistic that I read, it
showed that eighty nine percent of Americanshave suffered from burnout in this past year
in the twenty twenty two to twentytwenty three years, that's significant. Eighty
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nine percent people, that's almost nineout of every ten people are experiencing symptoms
of burnout and those symptoms come infeelings of physical fatigue, of cognitive weariness,
in other words, just not beingable to focus and concentrate, poor
sleep, emotional stresses. Right,So there's a lot of negative things that
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are coming out of this almost burnoutepidemic that we are faced with. There's
a lot of different reasons for that. Some of it is the work load,
right, It's just what are youcarrying as an entrepreneur. Are you
trying to juggle too many things andbe this solo preneur and do it all
yourself? That could be leading toburnout. If you are in the corporate
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world, is your position, yourjob? Have they because of this?
Every company is kind of straining tofind new employees and new workers. Are
you being overworked? Right? Areyou carrying too many responsibilities? If you're
a leader in the world of corporateis that are you having to manage a
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lot more because you have a lotless people to do the work that is
being that needs to be done.If you are a woman in leadership in
the corporate environment, this is itmight really affect you as well because women
tend to balance more just kind ofby default, whether it's a societal expectations,
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family expectations, whatever. The situationis they tend to do most of
the parenting, the soft's parenting stuff, the shopping, the laundry, the
house, those types of things,and so oftentimes they can that can lead
to a little bit of burnout aswell. So that's that's it's important that
we address this and that we addresssome of the things that we can do
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to deal with it. How dowe restructure that, restructure things in our
life so that we aren't in aburnout state constantly. What are some of
the tips and tricks. Well,we're going to do an interview with doctor
Patricia Petrolba in just a few minutes, but I'm going to throw in at
the beginning that there's a few things. And you've heard me harp on this
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on other podcasts or other little videosif you follow me on Instagram or YouTube
shorts. I talk a lot aboutthat self care aspect and not in the
in the you know, manicures,pedicures, that type of thing, but
really, god that those aren't funfrom time to time. I'm gonna tell
you, I you know, massagesare healthy for you, but more in
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the just the practical things that youreally need to do on a daily basis
and there are three main things thatare run overally emphasize to everyone as before
we go into this interview. Frommy point of view, the top is
taking care of your sleep, makingsure you're getting adequate sleep. If you're
not getting adequate sleep, if you'renot sleeping well, then your brain is
not up to snuff. And ifyour brain's not up to snuff, then
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that's going to lead to the fogginessand the lack of actual ability to concentrate,
which is going to add to thestresses in any portion of your life
and just compound any types of burnoutsituation. The second is your hydration and
your food right, make sure thatyou're eating and you're drinking plenty of good
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clean water on a regular basis,daily, daily, daily, making sure
you're getting more of the good andless of the bad. I know we
harp on that a lot, butwhen you look as a brain a certified
brain health professional, when you lookat the functioning of the brain, these
are things that are critical for yourbrain to work at its optimal point,
at its optimal level. Right.The third is exercise. Now, I
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want to expand the exercise. Italk a lot about how exercise should be
a non negotiable in your daily life, and when doing that, you want
to do at least thirty minutes ofcardio. I have certain things that I
do. I normally jump on myelliptical because that's what's easy for me.
It's in the house that I cando it. Any type of weather too
hot, I can do it.If it's too cold outside, I can
do it. But I want toreally encourage for your mental health and to
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help you manage burnout symptoms of fatigue. Try to do some of that,
some of that exercise just simply bygetting outside and walking, walking in green
spaces and then pausing throughout your walkto just take a couple of deep breaths,
slow down, smell the air,Smell the greenery. If you can
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be out among the trees, actuallygo over and touch the grass, touch
the plant. Stand a barefoot ifyou are, if you have on the
grass and in the dirt. Imean, it really is good for your
body in so many different areas.It is my belief as the brain lady
that if you take care of yourbrain first, the four pillars of success
that we address with your best mindis brain health first, mind health second.
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Those two are intertwined and oftentimes bouncebetween first and second, and then
when you have those in alignment,then the next is relationship and business or
career success. And when you havethe first two set and really strong,
then number three and number four aregoing to flow beautifully. Then you can
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work on your relationships because you're workingwith a full brain and a happy mind.
All right. So those are kindof my little tips that I wanted
to throw in here at the beginningof the podcast before we invite in our
our guest for today. So giveme just a second and we'll invite her
into the room and we'll be ableto welcome her and get to some of
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her wisdom on how to deal withthe stresses and the burnouts for individuals today,
especially those powerful women out there.We have an amazing, wonderful interview
to do today with a wonderful guest. She is doctor Patricia. Let me
make sure I pronounced this right,Patrolba, you did it right. I
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love it. I love it.And she is joining us from Tucson,
Arizona, and her business is ThriveLive Center. Let me read you just
a little bit of her. Youknow, her professional background and interest and
expertise and then we'll get into reallywho is doctor Patricia so. Doctor Patricia
Petralba is a founder of Thrive LifeCenter, which is an integrative medicine West
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Wellness center in Tucson, Arizona,and the head coach of the of Revive
and Thrive program. She is passionateabout sharing her knowledge that transforms lives the
holistic and sustainable way so that highlyambitious women can perform without the burnout and
feel fulfilled in all areas of herlife. She wishes to create space for
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minority leaders to have a voice inthe conversation of the healing, arts and
entrepreneurship. She's proud to be pioneering. A pioneering Filipina trained in integrative medicine,
special specialty and hypno birthing. Shehas a special interest in mind body
medicine, stress reduction, acupuncture,women's health and energy healing. Welcome to
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the program, doctor Patricia, Thankyou, Julie. I'm so excited to
yeah, nurture audience and have thisconversation. I love it and I think
it's it's such an important It's funnythat topic of burnout is and we can
go in a lot of different wehave a lot of similarity, you know,
the mind, body, brain.You know, we could go in
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a lot of different directions, butyou know, since you are passionate about,
you know, the managing the burnoutfor individuals, especially women and what
they have to deal with, Ithink that's a really valuable topic to focus
on today. And prior to bringingyou in, I talked about some of
the alarming statistics. I mean currentlyalmost nine out of ten people in the
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United States anyways, I mean don'thave the global figures, but a feel
that have felt a sense of burnoutin the last year. Wow, Like
that was just an amazing statistic.What are you finding in your practice that
that is revealing to you the needfor addressing this topic very consistent with that
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you know, nationwide statistic. Alot of my patients are experiencing burnout,
and what's interest thing is there isa disconnect and identification that they are burning
out. They think that they arein like they're just doing something wrong on
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why they don't have the energy,they don't have the libido or kind of
having these you know, emotional eitheranxiety or depression. And when there's a
little bit of objectivity, meaning likeBiomarkers Labs nutritional panel that we go through.
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I've had some actually a lot ofpatients that are shocked. I'm like,
wow, people really need to havethat bridge and connection of they almost
need that feedback. Even though thebody and the mind is like screaming,
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I'm tired, I'm burning out,they still need that biomarkers like you're adrenal
fatigue. Like they need me tosay that one more time in a different
language, you know. So anyways, I feel like I am a translator.
I am translating for them in alanguage that connects to them of what
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their body, mind and spirit iscommunicating very clearly. Yeah that's yeah,
no answer, but yes, no, no, I appreciate that, and
it's very I think it's very true. We have Oh look at you,
you're putting me in a shame there. Look at your water. This one's
my one gallon. I love it. I told everyone before I brought you
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in my three trot tips, andone of them is you know your hydration.
You need to hydrate. That soimportant. But I think that's right,
I think in in Western society especially, and that's beautiful of what I
think is beautiful about what you're doingis connecting those two back thirty years ago.
What started me in this whole journeyinto the brain is I initially was
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studying natural health because I had that, you know, I just knew,
and I'm not really sure how.It wasn't necessarily something that my family did
or my mother did. It wasjust I knew in my late teens that
if I listened to my body andif I fed my body correctly, meaning
not just literally food, but exercise, food, healthy, mental water,
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all that kind of stuff, thatI felt better, I performed better,
I had more energy. So Iknew that as opposed to taking a medicine,
taking better care of my body,my body and its beautiful way would
take care of itself. So Iwas drawn to that. But in general,
I think you're right. Most peoplethey want to see it on a
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piece They want to see a bargraph on a piece of paper that says
here's normal, and here's where I'mat, and it's below normal. So
I need to do this. Yes, in many ways, it's like a
sort of denial. It's an entirebecause they're perceived demand is high, and
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so they want to keep up withthat corporate expectation. And there again the
disconnect of what the body is currentlygoing through and navigating how can I still
perform excellent in my C suite andbeing an executive, being a business owner,
being an entrepreneur, while honoring beinga woman, while honoring having a
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third dimensional physical body that is amachine that needs to be said, that
needs to sleep, that's needs beturned off, not yes, a corporate
machine, you know. And mycurrent kind of message that I want to
hammer down because we are talking tomostly women out here, is you know,
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being a holistic provider to the mainphilosophy behind for me personally, who
listen is root cause medicine, right, like, what is the root cause
of burnout? Connecting to women's health. And there are two root causes that
I've seen across the board, whetherI'm in Asia here in Northern America is
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one childhood, early childhood is andI'm also an early childhood mother. So
I'm deeply like exploring this early childhood, the first seven years our connection and
how we can deeply listen to thebody signals the same way as you know
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how we train party training, hungersignals, us sleep week cycle signals.
So that's the primary fundamental mind bodyconnection and the second layer of root cast
as a woman that I think getsso lost the moment we're in our academic
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life, in corporate life and motherhoodand beyond. Is imagine if we were
so connected to our cycles and ourhormonal hell that it is the same acuity
of listening to I'm hungry, Ineed to eat, translating to women's cycle,
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I'm ovulating, this is the timeto be creative, I am in
my menstrual face, this is thetime to rest, reflect and let myself
shed. Can you imagine the impactif we were that aware the same bodily
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function of I need to be thisis currently my hormonal standards. Yeah,
yeah, that's powerful. That's powerful. And how would you so on that
because we do have a lot oflisteners that are in that you know,
gen X situation where we've kind ofgone past that cycling. We've gone into
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the the permanent rest cycle, ifyou will, from and beyond. I
hear, yeah, yeah, numberone. You know, again, back
to early childhood, a lot ofthe signals were dismissed, whether that's hunger,
tiredness, lee being mentioned those cycles. It's suppressed and somewhere deep in
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our nervous system that gets buried.So how can we be in tune because
even if we're in menopause or beyond, we are still cycling. In many
ways, we are linear because ourhormonal physiology is very connected to the moon.
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So the outer moon is very reflectiveof our inner moon, which is
our ovaries and our uterus, soconnecting that too, there are a lot
of signals that we cut because weneeded to have the eye on the target.
We needed to meet a deadline,we needed to study for an exam,
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we needed to hit this whatever deadline, and the body then feels unsafe
to pause. And so if werecognize that those the origin majority is the
non verbal part of our years zeroto seven, the way to debrief from
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that to listen better beyond menopause,so that we know what our body,
mind, and soul really needs.It's also beyond talk therapy too, so
it's really like connecting back to thefashion, to the movement to you know,
massage. So it's no language,it's kind of the knowledge of the
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body, how the body feels saved, how the body feels no guilt and
shame in right now, and cyclewith it, cycle the moon, so
that you are preventing burnout. Soreally kind of that link like this is
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beyond knowledge, beyond logic. Mybody needs to kind of unpack this memory
that was so ingrained to not pause, Yeah, to keep doing. Yeah,
I think that's definitely And you caneven see how when you really think
about societal expectations and the school systemand all of the way that it is
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ran and the deadlines, like we'retraining our children to achieve certain things in
certain ways on certain time timeframes.And yes, in order to have some
organization in society, there's a certainamount of that that needs to be implemented.
However, it does disconnect you fromreally stopping and listening and taking care
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of of yourself. One of thethings that I really try to encourage people
is just taking pause and going outand walking in green spaces, even if
it's just short amounts of time,and touching the grass and touching the leaves
and you know, experiencing nature becausethat really helps to calm your nervous system
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and calm calm your brain down.What are some real tangible like when you're
working, I mean you kind oftouched on in and went into to reprogramming,
not reprogramming, but going back unprogramming, right, what's in there?
But what are some other like you'vegot? We both probably interact with a
lot of very highly driven women.You know, I work with C suite
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executives who are women leaders, withhighly high performing women entrepreneurs, and they
have a hard time stopping. Andyou mentioned the word guilt right, because
they maybe feel a little guilty becausethey feel that they have this expectation for
themselves and if they don't hit it, they feel guilty. And then that
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plays with the mind, which playswith brain chemistry, and it just messes
everything up. But so, whatare ways advice that you would give to
highly driven women entrepreneurs or someone whois climbing that corporate ladder to prevent burnout?
Yes, and then to manage itif they already have it, So
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kind of a two part question likehow can you work to prevent it?
But if you're in the middle ofit and you know you're feeling it,
what can you do to work withit? Right? Right? So the
layers at what I heard from youis that you know, like there's still
that guilt because most of these womenthat we serve are very smart. They
know what healthy is they know whatto eat, they know they need to
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take breaks, they know going outin nature is healthy for them, and
yet the programming is so hardwired thateven though they know logically, how can
how is it that the behavior isso hard to break? And that's why
I started with the non verbal partof our years and we So then it's
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that reprogramming of maybe finding a bodyworker, like working with your fasha hiro
bractor, kind of regulate in yournervous system. Number one, find a
body worker, because sometimes it's trappedin the body, that wiring, that
memory of the moment they become still. It's such an unfamiliar feeling for highly
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driven woman Hello like me before youknow, so I could completely relate.
I needed that energy of doing toyou know, get these degrees and all
these training, and so we kindof lean on that masculine doing energy.
So a body worker is a veryexcellent, pleasurable way to deprogram yourself.
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Number two. You also mentioned,you know, going out in nature,
so connecting with the five elements toto really feel alive inside. So the
element of light or fire, naturalsunlight, the element of air. Most
of these women are in artificial air, so going out in nature water,
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So you want a live water thatis mostly alkaline to prevent oxidation or stress
or aging. You want it tobe contained in a natural space to like
steel or glass or silica. Becausewater is at least seventy percent of what
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we're made off, So you wantto tank yourself up with water that is
alive. What are the other naturesof earth? So it could be grounding,
like literally putting your feet on theground. Perfect, no shoes,
Take those shoes up, take thosesocks off. Yes, Because we are
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batteries. We are walking electric andmagnetic beams, and when we touch the
ground, there's a lot of kindof that electromagnetic smug from MM from electricity,
tea from power, you know,boxes that we take on that the
cells feels like, oh my gosh, this is so uncomfortable. But when
you put your feet on the ground, it almost washes that a way.
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It recalibrates you back to what thebody actually wants. Not the same thing
with the house. You know howwhen we build a house, electricians literally
need to ground the house so thatit's not a wire right. Yeah,
yeah, so kind of I thinkI was just reiterating and kind of giving
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you a different layer on why weneed to be in nature in natural spaces.
Yeah, yeah, so bodywork naturewater and the thing is also with
water, regardless of how much youdrink. But if it's not with the
right amount of minerals, we're justbeing it out, so we're not really
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hydrating ourselves. So the one ofthe best ways to rehydrate yourself is supplementing
with Irish sea moss. Irish seamosh. It has a good blend of
minerals that will help you retain thatwater. M M good. I haven't
I've heard of the Irish sea moss, but I haven't heard that connection before
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that you just made. Yeah,yeah, that's powerful. So many things
that we need to do, anda lot of times all these seem they
seem like simple steps, right,go put your take your shoes and socks
off and put it on the ground, right Like seem simple, but it
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the implementation isn't always easy for alot of these women. Is what I
have found in working with some clientsis that they just it's like that implementation,
they just get caught up in whatdo you suggest to help them implement?
Like do you do you suggest beingworking with a practitioner, or setting
alarms on your phone. But Ihate setting alarms on the phone because one
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of the things I tell people isthey have to disconnect from technology, Like,
like, what's some good tips tohelp help a woman do that reprogram
or a man if they're dealing withthis. Of course, it's not like
it's one hundred percent a woman's issue. Lots of men experience burnout as well,
But like, what's a really goodthing that you tell people? Like
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this is what you do? Doyou just start by making appointment with a
practitioner that's going to do the bodywork. Is that the best first step?
Or is the best first step doingone little thing each day? Like
what do you suggest, what doyou think's best to really motivate someone to
actually do this, Because that's oneof my big pet peeves, Doctor Petorgio,
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I gotta tell you. You givethe person all the answers and you
see them six months later and theyfeel worse than they did when you first
saw him, And I'm like,well did you do this? And I'm
like, now, did you dothat? Now? Yes, I hear
you. I mean I'm on thesame boat. And I think it's a
very individualized path and the secret sauceto keep things going and to activate.
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Actually what you need to do orthe soul calling, the body calling,
the mind calling is it has tobe fun. It has to be joyful,
it has to be pleasurable, andit has to be connected with your
purpose. Because if it's connected towhat feels good, everything else becomes easy,
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you know. And that's the workright there, kind of really aligning
and identifying this feels good. Ithink this is my purpose. This is
why I want to be an executivein this position because I get to change
women lives. I get to providefor my family. I get to be
the face of a certain I don'tknow minority group. I get to run
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a company that I don't know honorsthe feminine biology. I don't know.
Whatever her purpose is, she hasto be reminded what got her there in
the first place, you know.So it's almost like insight and foresight.
So I love kind of coaching women. The first time we see each other
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is three ways of viewing is hindsight. You have to look back, what
are the patterns with kind of whatwe talked about the root causes. You
have to know the patterns from yourlineage, to your family, to your
environment, the good and the bag, so that you can cut off the
things that you don't like and thenyou can enhance what you actually really like
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inside, like why am I herein the first place? What feels good
to me? And foresight all Andthis is where women get caught up.
They get caught up, and actuallyboth men and women they got They get
caught up like why am I feelingtired? What is no? But they
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can't bridge to well, what isyour north? What's the end point?
Like why do you even want tofeel better? Why do you even out
of burnout? And will you reallydo and show up for your north when
you actually have that energy? Whenwe get back to out of burnout?
Will you really go hiking? Willyou really take that surfing trip? Will
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you really cresit the family that yousaid you wanted to have energy and time?
When you know so breaking like whydid you want to earn x amount
of money in the first place tohave that ptation in that trip space?
And it's usually freedom autonomy doing whatthey really enjoy is the point, you
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know, So I think that threeways of viewing. If they know what
north is, yeah, that's good. That's good. That's that's important,
getting back in touch to why theystarted the whole thing in the first place.
Yeah, yeah, Now you talkabout something. One of the questions
that we have here is why ispleasure? Pleasure a recipe for performance?
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So it's kind of continuing that thoughtthat you're thinking or that you started on,
you know, the whole getting backto the why you know, did
you do it for the freedom?Did you do it so that you could
go do these different things? Right? So what is that? Unpack that
one for us? Yes? Okay, so pleasure, No, when I
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when I mean pleasure, it's reallykind of that experience of expansion. It's
almost like that experience of orgasam andorgasm is like, you can't have an
orgasm if you're in the doing mode, if you're in the worry mode.
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No, And I want to bridgeand connect that to the female body,
where we have the code and theintelligence and the wisdom inside of us that
we can produce and create a humanbeing without literally doing anything just received.
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So translate that to our corporate life. A woman's creativity is usually ignited when
we are in the queen mode,like oh my gosh, this flower is
beautiful, this garden is beautiful,this meal is beautiful, and then boom
boom, boom boom, all thecreativity just gets there. And I think
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that's the missing piece. We thinkwe can power through productivity when it's really
that posh and pull, you know, you push when you're already seeded with
that pleasure and from a hormonal andphysical standpoint, when you have a healthy
mix of pleasure hormones oxytocin right assome hormones and court is all stress testosterone
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doing hormone, that's when it becomessustainable. It really has to be that
posh and pull. We think thatpausing and having that pleasurable experience is a
waste of time when that is thefertilizer. Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'swhat's going to help you on the other
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side's I like that. That's abeautiful way of looking at it. So
in as we wrap up, becauseI don't want to say I don't want
to, we could. I I'mjust my brain's going with a lot of
additional questions and we have some herethat that you provided me with that we
haven't gotten to yet. So I'malmost seeing a a part two to our
conversation. Yeah, I would lovethat, but let's just let's just finish
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up with helping with your your you'rekind of your top tips of how can
individuals listening deal with health and healing? Like, what's that kind of that
first step? What's the way thatthey can do it where it's sustainable and
it's not like, oh, Juliejust gave me the ten top tips and
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I can't do ten things right.What's what's your advice to those listening to
get started and be able to tocommit to something that's gonna be sustainable,
that's gonna that they can continue todo m There's so many ways, No,
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what what could be the first step? I think the first step is
really pausing listening, listening to whatis and lead yourself with love. Self
leadership with love is love is honestlythe most powerful healing force and emotion.
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And a friendly reminder to those whoare listening that the heart, the heart
space is actually five thousand times moreelectric and magnetic charge than the brain.
So that's why I always like returnto the heart, like what does the
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heart tell you what feels good?And versus like, oh, because I
have to do this or the guildor the power through you know, and
that's not bad, like it getsus doing things, but return to the
heart like the self leadership with partI think is a good first step so
you don't feel like you're beating yourselfup. Yeah, I love it,
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Yeah, I love it. Suchgreat advice. Well, doctor Patricia,
thank you so much for being onThe Women Entrepreneur Show. And I do
my as you're talking, my brains, you know, working in different going.
Oh, we need to do aLinkedIn live. We need to do
this, we need to do it. So we're going to have to definitely
open up another conversation on this topicand expand even more. I appreciate and
(35:31):
I'm honored that you spent the timewith us this afternoon. My pleasure.
Thank you very much. All Right, for those who are listening, be
sure there are lots of ways toget in touch. Let me read,
let me touch on these really quick, lots of ways to get in touch
with or stay connected, I shouldsay to doctor Patricia. She is on
(35:52):
Instagram at Thrive Life Center LLLC,the same with Facebook Thrive Live Center Center
p LC. Sorry, yes PLC. And then her LinkedIn is a little
bit longer so we're going to putthat all of these and all of these
contacts are in Her contact information isin the show notes. Her website of
(36:16):
course is Thrivelfcenter dot com and heremail info at I NFO info at thrivelifecenter
dot com. And then you havedo you have anything that you want to
just highlight for or you have likea mentorship program that you do that you
could real quick tell our listeners aboutif they wanted to reach out to you
(36:37):
and get more information on. Absolutelyso. I do global coaching. So
it's called the Revivant Thrive Program andit's really focused on avoid being and going
beyond burnout and thrive in all areasof your life. So they can simply
email me to know more about howI can facilitate their healing, whether it's
(37:00):
one on one group or a selfbased course. Yeah, but I love
love love one on ones. Iknow you get to connect and build relationships
that way better. I'd like that. All right, again, thank you
so much for being on the WomenEntrepreneurs Show. Stay connected with us those
of you who are listening at WomenEntrepreneurs Extraordinaire dot com. You can become
(37:20):
a member and highlight your business fora small annual fee in our directory.
You can also join our Facebook groupWomen Entrepreneurs Extraordinaire. We are also on
Instagram we dot extraordinaire. Be sureto follow us there and of course the
Women Entrepreneurs Podcast. Do me abig favor. I'm going to put this
out to all our listeners. Ifyou felt this was beneficial and you'd like
(37:44):
to have other people hear it aswell, give us some thumbs up,
give us a little bit of socialmedia love, follow doctor Patricia, follow
us, and share the content out. I think burnout is definitely a topic
that needs to be discussed more openlyand kind of remove the sh aim from
it. It's not a guilt thing. It just is a thing and we
need to learn how to address itso that we can thrive in our lives
(38:07):
and live happier, healthier lives.So thank you once again very much for
being on the Women Entrepreneurs Podcast andfor joining us and listening. Bye bye
for now, And as I liketo tell everybody, roll your shoulders back,
take a nice deep breath, goout there and simply enjoy every moment
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