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Welcome, Welcome everyone to the WomenExcelling Everywhere podcast series. This is Julie
Anderson, your host, and Iam so excited for another special release of
a podcast connected to a special projectthat we have going on, and being
able to share this interview with oneof our amazing co authors, Nicky Robotham.
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Did I pronounce that right? Ilove it? I love it.
So welcome to the Women Excelling EverywherePodcast. Thank you, Julie. It's
such a pleasure to be here.I am going to read for our listeners
and our watchers your professional bio,and then we're going to get down to
who Nicky really is. So Nickiis the founder of a foundational Frequency and
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Inspired Change. She is an author, speaker, and coach, and she
helps conscious She helps conscious and empoweredpeople move into embodied mastery, the highest
expression of themselves. These practices areall about redefining success for ourselves, rooted
in resonant energy, our frequency andinternal alignment as we move from ego based
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manifestation into soul based quantum manifestation.Oh I like that. She has published
two books on stress management. Oneis Seven Steps to Finding Flow Flip the
script on Stress I love that we'llhave to talk about that one and personal
transformation, embrace your elegant power,your path to success through ease and works
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as a coach and speaker for individuals, entrepreneurs and corporates. Welcome again,
Nikki to the WEI podcast. Thankyou. It's just, as I said,
a pleasure to be here and beworking and collaborating with so many incredible
women and individuals from around the world. I just think it's that's where the
magic happens. Absolutely absolutely when youget a bunch of great brains together,
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great things happen. And the wholeidea is to provide kind of a launching
pad to help or support to helpwomen to excel wherever they're at in their
lives. So tell us a littlebit of the unscripted part of Nikki,
like what led you to where you'reat in your life? Because you,
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as we were discussing before we startedrecording, you were in a very corporate
career, very what I would callleft brain technical dollars and cents kind of
a career and now you're in developinglife mastery. So tell us a little
bit about that story. Well,I think it really starts, you know
when we're younger, and we gettaught from a very young age what the
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world and society values. And Ivery quickly fell into that rhythm of chasing
those gold stars of external validation andtuning into what I call external authorities.
I excelled at high school, Ichased the right university degree, became a
chartered accountant NBA and competitive economics,and was really building and fixing businesses and
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financial services both in South Africa andoverseas in the UK. And it was
all about that ladder, that linearpath up where let's get the next title,
the next you know bonus that wascoming, or you know, the
next achievement, and it was allunder the guise of you know, having
impact in the right way. ButI definitely got one of those moments where
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I got stopped and it was almostasked me to question the path that I've
been on. I was mentioning beforewe started recording that I'd been like the
dog chasing the car. You know, you keep chasing, you keep chasing,
and then you catch it and yougo, is this all? And
I think it was that moment ofreckoning that was also brought on by health
complications as a result of that singleminded focus, and all of a sudden,
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these new opportunities in different sort ofyou know, creative expressions came to
me to sort of start to stepinto. And I've been given this incredibly
easeful path to almost transition from thatspace, stepping away from big leadership and
moving more into still being able tosupport myself through incredible opportunities. But now
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I've got a journal range. I'ma speaker and a coach. Just for
example, Inspired Changes is a journalrange because I want people to get off
screens and tune back into themselves ina way that isn't always in that distracted
world. But then I started towork with energy and Frequency, and Foundational
Frequency is actually my energy and wellnesscenter where we work with Scala and biophotonic
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energy, the energy enhancement system toreally support people to repower their self at
a cellular level. And we've hadsuch incredible support there both in terms of
awareness and consciousness where they start tocome to realizations like you know, I
regulate my nervous system with food andthat normally takes years of therapy and so
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working in a different way rather thanjust treating ourselves as what I call chemical
and physical. We're starting to lookat the electrical nature of the body,
the energetic nature of the body,using you know, the soul's individual charge,
and how do we get that backup so our bodies have energy to
heal ourselves. And so all ofthese things have come together the writing of
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my books, which are all mylived experience that were basically the research I
did and the process I went through, the realizations I came to to really
help support people in a different way. I always believe that we should help
other people to learn the lessons quickerthan we did. I cam across a
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quote the other day that says,you know, it's smart, and I'm
going to paraphrase here, I'm notgoing to get it completely right. You
know, a smart man learns fromhis lessons, a wise man learns from
the lessons of others. And thatreally is you know why I write,
why I share, and why youknow, I've been called into what I
call mastery coaching because we're all herewith individual gifts rather than cookie cutter approaches
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where we all just chase those youknow, ten traits. We were told
that we're valued in society. Howdo you really tune into what a lights
you up, because we didn't justcome to this life to eat, sleep
and pop a pool and the hamsterwheel of life. And now give me
a whole lot. I'm going tostop talking for a few seconds. No,
I love that because it's a lotof what as the brain, lady
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that I go in and I talkabout you know that natural brain wiring,
and you you did what so manyso many people I think, especially women.
I'm not saying that men don't fallinto this too, because they're absolutely
do, especially those first born menor those men that have that, you
know, that higher level of expectationon them. But I think we look
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for and part of it is thatour brain isn't completely developed as a team,
right, We just don't have itall there. So we're very open
to the influences of others and Okay, this is what I need to do
so that as an adult, I'mgoing to have a great life and everybody's
going to love me and I'm goingto fit. That'll be my place in
the world. And we aren't readyat that point yet. Our brains just
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aren't ready to make that kind ofa decision. We really have to do
more internal thinking to figure out whatis my natural gifts? What are my
natural wiring? And I think that'sin some sense what you were saying.
You know, what is that?What is that passion that you really as
an individual have, and then howdo you how do you tap in and
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gain mastery over that? Now youyou said that you would were doing the
corporate side. Was there like adefining moment or a specific life episode or
event or something that made you go, h, this really isn't what I
want to do. I really Imuch rather be doing something that makes me
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feel better, Like, was theresomething there? There were two very like
aha moments, as I call them, and the one was the health complication
where I'd been struggling with sort ofwhat I'm going to call stomach or gut
issues for a long time and literallyI had a very a two minute consult
with a general practitioner a doctor,and he basically gave me a diagnosis without
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really asking a whole lot of questions. And it was one of the first
times when that intuition started to comethrough. And I kind of followed all
of that and was led to themost incredible people to support me to understand
that it was actually based on mynervousness, and there were many other lifestyle
factors, but my nervous system,if you understand your autonomic nervous system and
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what they call the vagus nerve,it was in a state of freeze,
which is basically that hyper state offight or flight that they normally see in
wartime victims. But basically everything lookedlike a stressor and I was literally you
know, you picture someone in abombshelter waiting for the next bomb to drop.
That was an email that was,you know, a demand from a
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boss or actually anyone at that pointin my life, because I'd been clinging
to that for so long, andso it really just there was an incredibly
supportive path that I went on toheal using a lot of natural modality's supportive
therapeutic modalities as well, and wasable to literally reverse my symptoms in under
six months. And a lot ofthe medical professionals I worked with were astounded
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because they said, this takes peopletwo to three years, And I said,
that's the benefit of the A pluspersonality that I had in corporate.
Apply that to my own life andwas able to heal that. But it
was almost like I hadn't There wasstill an attachment to some of that corporate
identity. So I tuned into alot of a different way of operating that
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I needed to. When I broughtmy nervous system back into what I call
flow, where stress wasn't happening upclose and personal, It's almost like I
could see stresses coming and I couldchoose to respond differently. It was almost
like I'd brought my body back ontomy team, if I can call it
that, because so many of usto cope to associate for my bodies and
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I often you know, we talka lot in society about our IQ and
our EQ, that emotional quotient andour intellectual quotient as being you know,
some of the things we have towork with. But I said to a
lot of people, what I realizedis that I was leaving what I call
my soul quotient behind, and ithad been a bit of a wobbly stool,
you know, just using IQ andEQ. I had to tune back
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into my heart, which is wheremy tuition comes from. That's for me,
where our soul, our real sortof like path comes from, because
our hearts are so incredibly powerful,but we've valued our brain over our heart
but when you look at the studiesdone, and I believe they both have
a part in leading us. I'mnot preparing the brain as someone who's been
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intellectual studies for all of our lives. But I realized that part of my
power was coming back to my heartspace. Actually Heart Math Institution in the
US, Doctor Rowland mccrathey did studiesaround it and looked at the amplitude of
our heart electromagnetic waves sixty times greaterthan our brain and literally creates this electromagnetic
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field around us, which is howwe sense other people's energy. Whether you
walk into a boardroom or whether youare you know someone in traffic behind you,
we feel that energy from them.Most of us just haven't tuned into
it. So for me, itwas getting all of that back onto the
same page and starting to listen tothem in a balanced way, and it
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just led me to the right passand the right nuances. And the second
event was a what I'm going tocall a corporate bully that I had been
coping with for a very long time, and it literally it got to the
point where I had to put myselffirst, say this is not worth it
anymore. And it was a momentof just I literally had this moment in
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my head. I had a micdropmoment, and I walked off into this
imaginary forest and I just went,I'm done. And there were just such
supportive moments where I was able tojust say that this is no longer worth
it and it's not what joy andsuccess looks like for me. And it's
never a one sphen you're done.It's a journey and rarely sort of delayering
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as I call it. But assoon as you start to tune into that
inner authority where you listen to yourselfand you know that you can guide yourself
most better than many other people whoclaim to be an expert of your life,
it takes to a back Yeah,and that used where the game changed.
Yeah, I heard several things inthat story that resonated so well with
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me. And you know, it'sit's very true. There's a neuroscience is
now talking about three brains, right, you have your primary, your brain
brain, your beat brain, whichthat's almost that is such an indicator of
something being off in your body,or being overly stressed. When you have
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digestive upset, there is something inyour life that is stressing you out because
you're not able to. It's theamygdala is on fire and you don't know
it. Oftentimes people are so inthat fight fight freeze, conserved with draw
state. They don't. It's sonatural it feels natural. Not it is
natural, but it feels natural forthem because they're there all the time.
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So it's just the way it is. And now they're calling the third brain,
which is the heart because of allof those neurons, and you mentioned
the vegas nerve, and the vegasnerve is the communication pathway, right,
so this is how all of thesebrains, you know, communicate with each
other. And if that that vegasnerve is is frozen is not, you
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know, it's like you have toomuch traffic or it's blocked somehow through you
know, an emotional happening or something. So you know, I love the
way that that that you were ableto in your real life go o case
something's off and then and then bebrave enough to make that step. And
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that's part of what we want forwomen, right is to be able to
excel. They need to recognize what'swhat's holding them back. And sometimes it's
doing the right, it's doing whatthey feel is the right thing or what
they've been told is the right thing. Yeah, And I was just going
to say that women specially are incrediblyintuitive. We need to start listening to
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that more and more, because wehave and our bodies have the most innate
wisdom. We've just always thought andI see this so much and my wellness
center, we've thought we know betterfor so long, and we're used to
treating symptoms at the surface level.But when we go to the root cause,
it actually becomes super simple, andwe just have to not overthink it
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and not think that we can forcethings to happen. And I talk it
a lot in my second book aboutthat dynamic around power versus force, because
for so long we've misconstrued you know, force, which is control over another,
that almost like it's that it demandsa counterforce, like a body,
you have to respond, whereas truepower, when we stand again our own
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power, you know, it doesn'trequire a counter force. It's like that
lighthouse energy. And I love howand LaMotte puts it using the lighthouse analogy.
She says that a lighthouse doesn't runall over the island looking for boats
to save, just stands there shining. And for me, that's what I
want for so many more women isto stand in their own That's why I
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call it elegant power, because wehave it. It's innate, and men
can have elegant power too. Alot of people think it's only a feminine
thing, but we really have totune in back into that innate energy within
us that says I'm enough now.I don't need to become enough, I'm
already enough. If we start therecoming from the place of knowing that we
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have everything we need and we're worthy. Right now, we operate differently into
the world. We don't try andmake everyone else happy because the validation starts
from within. Yeah, so verytrue, So very true. And I
think more and more, I thinkas society in general changes their viewpoints or
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is more open to all of thisscience that's supporting the thoughts of energy or
electricity, you know, electric Ialways tell people they're like, I don't
know about that. I'm like,well, do you realize every single cognitive
thought is simply an electrical message goingfrom under onto the other. Right,
if you doubt the whole inner likeit's it's just firing, the heart is
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just electrical impulses, right, Sounderstanding that and how your your mindset,
what you're thinking in your mind,and your expectations you place on yourself or
other people or other people are placedon you. Then can either help to
improve that all of that or orbring it. Bring it down. You
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bring it down. And I lovehow you've described it to people because it
feels like we're talking exactly the samelanguage. I use a very simple way
to put it across to people whomaybe don't get that, and I said
to them, that's why they'll usea defibrillator to restart your heart exactly.
And that's why we create we canbuild up a static charge, you know.
It's it's why we haven't an ECG. All of these are using the
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electrical nature of our bodies. Everymitochondria has a charge within ourselves and we
need to work with that in adifferent way. Yeah, And it's just
it's simple things that you get.That's why you use the analogy of energy
around sensing people in traffic or walkinginto a boardroom, because we all know
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that we just haven't tuned into whatwe're maybe sensing. And I do think
we're going to see a different balancecoming back for people where they start to
understand that and tune into it.Yeah, yeah, and you can start.
I mean, everybody's I think Ithink most people. I shouldn't say
everyone, but I think most peoplehave had those experiences where if you walk
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into a room and there have beentwo people who've been arguing, and you
didn't hear any of the argument,you didn't hear any of the hostile words,
but you walk into the room andit's like instantly you feel it.
Yeah, that's like, well,oh, what is going on here.
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But what's fascinating as well, andhas been such a part of my journey,
is having empathy for myself and othersaround the things that we've done to
stay safe, to navigate this paththrough life in a way that kind of
keeps us safe at the same time, and we kind of build what I
call a projected identity, the willthe identity we put out to the wall,
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that mask that we wear that wethink will be socially acceptable and will
make us more successful. But we'vegot to remember that at our essence,
we got this true identity of whowe are, and it's about how do
we get back as close as possibleto that, because that's really what lights
us up that's really what's going toyou know, make a difference if we
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really sort of start to live thatpath, you know, the end of
our lives. That's the stuff wherethe magic for me happens because we've allow
ourselves to be truly seen in amore vulnerable way and we value it need
the approval of others. Yeah,I agree, one hundred percent. I
talk a lot about that when Iyou know, because I have the personality
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assessment that's based on that brain wiring. And one of the things that I
tell people is you often mask whoyou what your natural gifts are for pleasing
other people. And we're trained fromthe time we go to school there's a
right answer and there's a wrong answer, So you're always searching for the right
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answer, which means whatever is goingto make that other person say yes or
you're right or whatever. And thereisn't always one right answer right. There
can be ten right answers. Itjust depends on the perspective of the person
answering the question and so really beingable to tap into that and kind of
pull back all of those those layersthat you have put on in your life
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to achieve what you think, whetherit's degrees in schooling or education or you
know, as you said, climbingin the beginning, you know, climbing
that corporate ladder or that ladder ofsuccess that somebody else laid out for you.
And it doesn't I don't think italways means you have to do a
complete drop your life now and moveon to something new. It just means
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you have to embrace who you are. I think, yeah, And I
think to your point, because that'sreally what Harmon has felt. It's just
being open to a completely different path. And someone actually said to me with
the launch of my center, andyou know, the writing of the books
before the pandemic, being an authorwas not on any vision board that I
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put out there, but it wassuch a soul based calling based on the
research I'd done, but mainly mylived experience. I wanted to share that
with people and share the stories becauseit is from my own lived experience backed
up by the science. But youknow, it was one of those things
where I said, they said tome, this is the power of vision
boards that I could not have evendreamt the abundance on this pathway that could
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have been because I was open.And that's also where That's where I talk
about the difference between ego and quantummanifestation, because a lot of that ego
manifestation comes from what I call theshoulds. It's the things we were told
we should do. And so Italk a lot about the delayering process or
what I call unshackling from the shoulds, because you know, a simple way
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to get someone to see how muchof that conditioning's crept into their lives.
So I said, be aware ofhow many times you say should during the
course of the day, and people, I mean, I was as standard.
The first time I did it,I was actually horrified. I was
like, good Lord. And whenyou become aware of it, the consciousness
starts to permeate and you go,ah, I see you there, Thank
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you for showing me where I needto sort of maybe do a bit more
work. And so it's such aneasy way for people to see how it's
manifesting. And so when we startto really tune into that more intuitive,
heart led way and either lessons throughmore awareness that are coming up for us,
that's where we can access a passthat can literally, you know,
almost sort of leap from what I'mgoing to call normal timelines to get something
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done because the pace of some ofthese things have happened. Like someone say
to me, how did this allhappen? It's like it's overnight, And
I said, there's a lot ofworks that we did into it. Sure,
But because I was open and Ilistened, absolutely absolutely and being okay,
listening to what your brain's trying tocommunicate to your being okay, because
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sometimes it's so foreign to what wewere raised to think is right. And
when you're like that, then youhave when you're really open like you were,
then things work a little faster.And for those who are listening,
if it's not working that fast foryou, that's okay, that's all right.
That's what we're here for is tohelp you help with peeling back those
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layers or moving those those blocks andyou're thinking, you know, and aside
or adjusting them, adjusting them orhelping helping with that. And to the
point I often say to people,look at where you're getting and you'll hear
me use the word flow a lotin my work, where we're getting into
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what I call that universal slipstream,like where things all of a sudden,
there's synchronicities that happening the right peopleare coming the right opportunities. That's often
where it's it's a yes for us. Where we hit resistance, where it's
like it's not working for us andwe're trying to force it, that's maybe
where we have to stay take astep back, because anywhere that we're forcing,
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it's normally sitting in that old energyof conditioning. And so that's one
of the quickest routs I say topeople is sometimes we are delayed on that
past because other things need to comeinto alignment. There's more things we need
to process and let go of.But when we really things start to come
together, that's often where we're inour most aligned energy. And so I'll
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also say to people like, again, where you're getting those where doors are
being closed, where it's just nothappening and you just feel like you're intrical
trying to push something to make ithappen, that's maybe a sign you need
to reconsider exactly maybe the path you'retaking, you know, maybe an aspect
of it, and maybe sit downand say, actually, what I really
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want out of this? If wetune back in the past normally opens up
yeah, very much so, verymuch so. And listening literally listening to
your gut too, right, youknow, because you're you got millions and
neurons down there in your gut,and if you're if you're feeling attention,
you know, some kind of tensionin that area or a little bit of
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you know. I mean, yes, sometimes when you are expanding, you're
going to feel butterflies. Right,You're going to feel that too. If
you're feeling the negative expression of thatin your in your body, in your
gut, you know, it's gonnalisten to it a little bit more.
I don't think. I don't thinkwe were trained to do that enough.
Well, let's go to the projectthat and I am so I was telling
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Nikki before we started this recording,how honored I am that she's part of
the product project, and how blessedI am that that it's led me to
meet her. Like I wasn't evenconnected to NICKI didn't even know about her
until we started the Women Excelling Everywhere. What sparked their passion and success project
book project, collaborative book project.And now I've been watching her on Instagram
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and it's like, you know,I just so much of what she teaches
resonates with me so much and I'mso blessed to have her part of this
project. What led you, Nikki, to be interested in contributing to this
book? I think for me,storytelling is so incredibly powerful, and it
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really was asking women to tell theirstories, but it was this element of
collaborative sort of supportive community and womenreally supporting each other and creating a platform
that supports other women who may bewalking alongside us and maybe need, you
know, perspectives to really help givethem guidance that they're not alone, that
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there is a different way, oryou know, because there's so many women
involved in this, and I justthink some everyone is going to take a
nugget or a little SoundBite from everychapter that really then supports them. And
collaboration over competition is something I'm sopassionate about because I believe we can all
succeed, and so I think itwas all of those things, plus getting
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to meet incredible people like yourself,Julie, like some of the other authors.
For me, you know, evensome of the small conversations I've had
already with some of the other authors, I know why we were brought together.
It literally it became so apparent injust a short conversation that there's so
many intersection points between what we're doing, and I do think that it needs
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needs to have a platform, andI think this is such an incredible platform.
I'd love it. I love it, and I love the I echo
everything that you're saying. You know, it's it, really there's the different
stories are going to resonate with differentpeople. And that was my hope in
creating the book. It was likethat one of those stories in that chapter
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or in that book, someone readingis going to go, oh, this
chapter, this one I was incorporate, I was doing that. I
can do this. If she coulddo it, I can do it,
you know, or we you know, we have other ones that we have
another co author that was in avery abusive marriage and she didn't realize it
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right because she was so she wasbeing gaslighted. She was so typically or
that typical victim of I don't knowit, and so someone reading her chapter
may go, wait a minute,you know. And so those are the
things that I think are brilliant.Is again what you said, the stories
and being able to share those differentstories and have them come out collaborative.
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And yes, we will have wewill continue this collaboration beyond beyond the book,
beyond that, and we are lookingI am looking forward to continuing to
bring the power of all of ourminds and our intuitions into a space to
support women wherever, wherever they areat. So again, I am honored.
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Now, if you want to stayconnected with Nikki, of course,
all of her chapter is in goingto be in the Women Excelling Everywhere Collaborative
book. I want everyone listening tomark your calendars for February twenty third,
because that is when you will beable to download the kindle version and you'll
be able to read Nicky's chapter,my chapter, and all of the other
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wonderful co authors that we're going tobe highlighting here in the next couple of
weeks. But you can also stayconnected with Niki at Nicki Robotham is her
at Nicki Robotham is her Instagram,and she is Nicki Robotham dot com.
And I'm going to spell that soNicki is spelled with the Y n I
c K Y and it's r OW B O t h A M.
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So just rewind the tape if youto get that spelling, just so you're
able to stay connected with her,and you'll be able to uh check out
her other books that she mentioned andjust stay connected. She shares a lot
of wonderful stuff on Instagram. Iam as I said in the beginning,
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I'm really enjoying getting to know Nickias a whole by seeing your feet in
the grass, grounding in the grass. Absolutely. Someone once said to me
like and and And it's one ofthose things because I've shared so much around
so many diverse things, whether itbe stress management, whether you personal power,
energy and frequency. I said topeople, I'm not really a specialist,
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more of what they now call apolymath. I'm a specialist in many
areas. And now how do youjoin the dots to really kind of find
meaning for yourself and your life,whatever it may be, in whatever aspect
of your life. And I thinkthat's also been part of the joy of
my life is knowing that all ofthese things I've been led to because there's
intersection between more and it's how tofor people, because I want people to
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live their best lives. Yeah,yeah, and enjoy it right, enjoy
it? Well. Well, thankyou once again NICKI for being on this
podcast and for being part of thisproject. I greatly I'm honored that too
are part of it. Absolutely absolutely, and for those who are listening again,
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mark calendars February twenty third. Wewill be basically at nine am wherever
you're at in the world, SoNikki's in South Africa, I'm in California,
so wherever you're at in the world, that's when everything will begin to
roll out just nine am on thetwenty third, and you can stay connected
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