June 8, 2025 • 52 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
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(00:48):
to pay by Pad to pay Back.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hey, what's going on everybody? And welcome back to another
livestream edition of the World Thatly Podcast. I'm your host
Dylan Abert and with me as always as my tax
team partner and my co host, Jordan Johnson. Jordan, how's
it going.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Man, I's going great. Ready to kill it again this week?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Absolutely, when I thank everyone for tuning in these last
couple of weeks, Jordan and I feel like we've been
on a role pushing out more content as far as
YouTube shorts, as far as just video uploads and everything
that we can possibly do. Jordan and I are putting
a network and doing some more stuff as far as
YouTube shorts go. We do have one dropping tomorrow from
(01:58):
Money in the Bank. Check that out tomorrow. And we
do have a second one that's going to be dropping
sometime later this week, maybe Thursday or Friday, so I'll
be on the lookout for that one as well. But yes,
today is our Money in the Bank Prediction Show. But
unfortunately we do have some things to talk about before,
So why don't we jump into our first topic, Jordan
(02:19):
a few month switching over yes, and unfortunately we have
to start off on a sad note. A few people
had their contracts not renewed, and the top one that
we're talking about today is Our Truth They did not
renew a few others. They did Valhalla, who also known
as Sarah Logan today, and they also did Carlito not
(02:43):
long after they did Our Troops. But Our Truths was
the one that caught a lot of people by surprise,
including myself, Jordan, that was surprised, and a lot of
the IWC, a lot of people backstage who work personally
with Our Truth and whatnot was really really called off
guard by it. So, Jordan, before I give my take
on it, I want to know what you were thinking,
(03:04):
what you're thinking right now. You know, as far as
someone who was in a mid card match against John
Cena at Saturday Night's main event, who just worked on
SmackDown against jac Matteo, who was his final match, and
someone who just did amazing character work for years and
years and years, you know, it was time with the
judgment day the confused persona that he gave off, like,
(03:26):
you know, not knowing that he wasn't in the money
in the bank match years ago when Kane had to
had to tell him it was in New Orleans too,
when when Caine had to tell him that he wasn't
in it, or during the rumble match when he got
the ladder out and climbed up and there was no
title there, or when he entered the women's rumble instead
of the men's. You know, the funny gimmick he had
(03:47):
and just you know, just doing stuff to make people break.
And that's something that he was so good for, you know,
making people break character, you know, like he did Damien
Priest a lot when he worked with the judge day
and whatnot. But give me your take on all of this.
I mean, this is this is some big news that
comes out. You know, it's not every day we talk
(04:08):
about a fifty plus year old not having his contract
renewed and and it's just turned into big news like this.
Some people are still talking about it to this day.
I mean, happened, happened yesterday morning, and to this day
people are still talking about it. I mean, I mean
people are not happy. So so what do you think?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, no, this is some well it's pretty sad because
he's he's it was awesome when he came out like
what's up? And I even did it. It was pretty awesome.
The last time we saw him was at SmackDown in
New Orleans when he called U when was it h
l A U.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
L A night Louisiana and I he called him.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, that was pretty cool. And then he called somebody
d X I remember in the.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Back, Oh it was it was Di because because Tomaso
Champa always looked before he shaved, his beard always looks
like triple h.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah. So yeah, that's it's like, it's really sad right
now that we won't see him no more.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, I mean before before I even I even go
into this, you know, do you see him showing up anywhere?
You know, I know, his contract's not being renewed. This
means he can go show up anywhere he wants. Do
you see Tony Kahan even even attempting it? Do you
see him going to TNA, who also has a working
relationship with the WWE, who if he wants to, he
(05:37):
could show up there if you wanted to. And I
feel like if he shows up at TNA, he can
keep that sort of confused gimmick like he shows up
in TNA confuse where everybody's at as opposed to when
he was in WE I mean, do you think he
goes anywhere? Do you think it's all said and done,
even though I think he's in great shape.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, I can see probably TNA, I don't put it,
don't don't know, no, non eight me, I don't think. Yeah,
I think that that's gonna be a good choice if
he does still go right.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So yeah, whenever, whenever I heard the news yesterday, I
was I was called off guard. I mean, this guy
is doing some of the best work of his career,
was one of the top the top merch sellers. I mean,
I mean anything this guy did was immediately turned to gold.
And uh, I was really called off guard by I think.
(06:32):
I think that that would be made a terrible move,
and a lot of people blaming Triple H. A lot
of people are pulling, you know, TKO into this, and
I feel like it's more of a TKO move than
it is a Triple H move. And I really don't
think having a fifty plus year old on the roster
who was one of your top merch sellers is any
reason to make a quote unquote business decision to not
(06:54):
renew his contract. So I think that that's a horrible
move to let him go. I think he was doing
some of the best work like I mentioned doing. Or
he came out during the money in the Bank promo
and it was saying what he was going to do
in the money to Bank even though he wasn't even
the match. During the women's Rumble, whenever he came out
(07:15):
after Vahalla came out and got attacked by Nia Jacks,
or whenever it's the men's rumble and he put the
ladder up and he climbs up to it while everyone's
just watching him do it instead of trying to interrupt them.
I mean, I don't think there was any wrongdoing of
anything that he did, and to let him go is
(07:35):
I think a pretty pretty questionable decision. I know it
struck a lot of people bad backstage. It's striking a
lot of people bad who watch actually watch wrestling. And
now we look at Wob's Twitter page. Anytime he post
them about raw anything, they anytime they post something about
anything right now, it is people boycotting. They're just putting
a hashtag. We want truth, you know, rehire truth, bring
(07:58):
back truth. I mean, people want our Truth back on
DW roster. So I'm gonna watch Monday Night Ral tonight
as I'm watching d LSU baseball game later on as
they start an hour later from Monday Night Raw. But
I want to see the initial reaction from the crowd
with our Truth no longer on the roster. And I
(08:19):
know that people are upset about Carlito not coming back
as well. I mean, it sucks about Valhalla as well,
but I'm not seeing the uproar that I'm seeing about
the other two. And I mean, what could this mean
for other talent that's on their roster with their contracts
coming up, the older talent that's on their roster, could
they not get theirs renewed as well? So I'm I'm
(08:44):
waiting and see it. What's gonna happen with this because
I think Our Truth, Carlito and Valhalla is just the
beginning of something not good for the w W. Now
people were already pissed with for the other releases that
they did a few weeks back. Now they're not renewing
a contract wanted the beloved members on the roster, and
uh yeah, people people aren't happy, including myself, including you,
(09:07):
including others. I mean, I think it's a bad move.
Before we move on, hop into a couple of comments,
what's going on, Bakeley? Justin your mom's tuning in Jordan,
my sister mom. Bakeley said he could see either TNA
or aew he's hoping ae W. I disagree because he's
(09:27):
going to be that shiny new toy and then turned
into somebody you're never going to see again. And what's
going on? Tim? Thanks for tuning in as well, man,
But yeah, I mean it's all a wait and see.
I think they're gonna realize what a terrible decision they made,
and I would hope that they decide to maybe change
(09:47):
their mind and bring him back. But honestly, with the
direction TKO is going right now, I wouldn't put it
past them to just say, oh, we're not gonna do anything.
But if you're not going to do anything, if you're
not going to change your mind and offer him a contract,
at least just at least give him the proper sendoff,
because this is a man that has put in so
(10:08):
many years for this company. There's no reason to not
renew his contract and to not mention him one time
at all. Because this is this is someone who shows
up every week and whether he's doing backstage work, whether
he's doing something to ring or whatever, he is always
bringing joy to everybody, whether they're backstage, if they're in
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the arena in their seats, or or watching it on TV.
So I'm some very confused by it, and I from
when I'm not going to trust the process at all
because I think they made a terrible decision. But before
we move on, Jordan got anything else to offer on it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No, it's just I think it's just a terrible move.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It is so from one contract expiring from one company
to another contract expiring on the other company. Mariah May
has been removed from the aw website. She has slated
to make her WWE debut soon. I'm assuming I don't
know when her actual contract expires. I seen I've seen
(11:22):
different reports. I know I've seen like August, it could
be earlier. I don't know when the actual contract comes up. Now,
I do know sooner or later. The Evolution Poe is
going to be happening in Atlanta the day after Saturday
Night's made event. I know that's a big topic of
discussion right now, is to win. Mariah May could debut
(11:47):
I don't think she goes to NXT. Maybe she does.
I know NXT is losing a few people. We'll talk
that on our final topic before the money the bank picks.
I mean, do you see her and roster bound. Do
you see her going to NXT at first, maybe to
help that women's division before a jump to the main roster.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah. I can see her probably going to NXT first,
kind of helping them out a little bit, and then
probably not that long, maybe not, but then jump over
to raws sknockdown.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And truthfully for her character wise, for her in the
ring in general, I don't think she needs NXT, but
I think that she'll go to NXT route first like
others did, like like you know, Stephanie and Jordan, Grace
and Julia and whatnot, people who I didn't think needed
NXT but still went that route just for a little
while and now the main roster bound. Same thing from
(12:51):
Mariah May. I think I think she goes to NXT
just for a little bit, and then she's called up
very quickly. She's one of those quick call ups like
we've been seeing. I do think she's making the right
decision also, not signing back with AEW. I would assume
(13:11):
Tony Kah maybe or or I shall say, did throw
her a lot of money to try and stay. But
I did say on a past stream last week that
it was her dream to go to WWE. She said
this in the past, and I think AEW was that
platform to get her there. She did it already because
(13:35):
because look a look at others who have started off
an AEW with that intention of not signing back and
going to WWE. And I believe Adobe could really make
her a star if she's booked correctly. And that's one
thing I'm worried about is the booking. The booking for
everybody right now has been pretty rough. I feel like
(13:56):
Adobe's in a pretty rough place right now with the
ar truth and the releases and and you know t
KO in general. But I think I have one thing.
Once they figure that out, I think she's gonna be
good and and she's been fine. Basically says she would
get lost in the shuffle if she went straight to
(14:17):
the mainor roster. I sort of agree with that because
with all the call ups that are happening right now,
I think I think NXT would be the perfect spot
for her right now, and maybe that's the reason why
they're calling up people so fast. I feel like I
feel like I'm jumping the gun to our to our
fourth topic with NXT. But but really I feel like
(14:39):
that's why they're calling her, or do why if she
goes to NXT, so you know, it's the reason why
they be calling up these people so fast. So maybe
NXT is the prime spot for Mariah May right now,
but when the time is right to bring her to
the main roster of Jordan, do you think that this
is the perfect move for her? Do you think she
(15:00):
should have stayed in AW or do you think that
w W is the prime spot for her right now?
Because I feel like that in AW, that women's division
is mainly focused around people like Tony Storm, Mercedes Monet,
and honestly not many others. I mean, like you don't
(15:20):
see the women getting too big an opportunity over there,
Like you don't see much of a of a christ
at Lander. You don't see honestly, I didn't watch Dynamite
on Wednesday, But like people like Megan Bain, who I thought,
you know, could be something big over there, I'm not
seeing much of her. You know, it's mainly focused around
(15:43):
the circus act that got over there with Mercedes and
Tony having a dance off whenever you're focusing on women
and they're doing a dance off at the end of
their promo, which I think is a big clown show
over there. But honestly, do you do you think she
made the right decision leaving A Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I think she did because right now it's just what
between what two women or whatever? How many women for AW? Yeah,
things she did because right now it's just Tony Storming,
Mercedes Monday and whoever else wrestles, But every week it
is the same people wrestling.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, And honestly, with Mariah May, I think she's wanted
a few that could. I mean, I could leave and
go to B You know one name I would love
to see leave AW and go to B because they're
not doing a thing with her. I'm not sure if
she's heard. I didn't hear any news that she's heard.
But where's Britt Baker at? You haven't seen her and
(16:46):
god knows how long. I I mean, I mean, let
her go shine somewhere else unless unless you're having something
for her on on the AW roster. Let her go
somewhere else. I mean, she's one of the pyor New
Years for women's wrestling in ae W, and you're not
doing a thing with her. Like I said, I don't
know if she's her. I don't watch AW, but I
(17:09):
haven't seen her or heard her name in forever, So
it's time to do something with her or let her
go somewhere else. So that's why I think Mariah May
is making the right decision and going to W. And
she did amazing work with Tony Storm. I think she
can credit Tony Storm with really putting her over as
far as a big talent and could see her doing
(17:32):
big things in W for sure. Justin said NXT will
be the perfect starting point from Mariah May with Stephanitie Bakir,
possibly Jordan Grace, Julia roxand called up NXT has already
made a room for for Mariah. Yeah, I one hundred
percent agree. So while we're on the topic of NXT,
(17:52):
let's hop to our main two, to our next topic,
and that is something huge happened at the end of
last week's NXT up, so something I did not see coming.
But with I mean with the news of what we're
talking about in just a few minutes, I mean, for one,
you could see it coming, but I didn't see as
(18:13):
to who they put it on. And that is a
j C. Jane defeated Stephanie Vakir. Yes, she had help
in the match, but she still beat Stephanie vak Heir
to win the NXT Women's Championship. Now, Jordan, you were watching,
I was not watching, because you do. You texted me
right after it happened, asked me if I was watching.
I'm like, no, did I miss something? So I went
(18:34):
straight to social media and all I'm seeing is like,
oh my god, oh my god. People are talking about
jac Jane winning the Wais's Championship and I was caught
off guard by that. I'm not gonna lie to you.
I was caught off guard. I did not expect jac
Jane to be the want to dethron Stephanie. I said,
if if Jordan Grace was your plan to stay in NXT,
(18:54):
it should have been her. But it's not now, is
is j C Jane You're your next big talent in
NXT to carry that women's division. I mean they certainly
maybe think so. Is she gonna be a transitional champion
getting to maybe someone different to hold that title. I
(19:15):
don't know, but I think they made a pretty gutsy
move by putting the title on her. Jeorge, what was
the reaction once once this all went down.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, I was shocked that she she won. I looked
up at the TV and uh I saw one, two three,
and that was it. I was like, holy shit, like
this is like really happening, and.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah, uh yeah, I'm in the same boat, man,
I am. I was really caught off guard by this,
and I mean, knowing what I know now, am I
still surprised about it. I'm not surprised. I'm not so
surprised about Stephanie dropping the title. It's just I'm surprised
on who she dropped it too. So that's the only
(20:04):
thing that I'm questioning right now is as like I
just asked, is J C. Jane is the next biggest
name in NXT? I mean, because if you're looking at
past members of Toxic Attraction, you know you had Mandy
Rose no longer with the company, Gigi Dolan also no
longer with the company. So I feel like J. C.
Jane is that next biggest name in NXT. But I mean,
(20:28):
you have other people there who I feel like could
have been a potential better name to take it off
of her. I was thinking maybe someone like a maybe
Kelinie Jordan could have took it off for her soul. Ruka, Uh,
I mean Zaria. I mean there's other people that I
feel like maybe had that chance of doing it, and
(20:50):
they went with j. C. Jane of all people.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So what about Jada Parker her too?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I mean yeah, I mean she should have been the
top of anybody's list to take it off to Stephanie.
So the fact that they pulled a trigger on JC
Jane over like you mentioned Jada Parker, who suddenly never
even came to mind whenever I was mentioning anyone on
that roster, I think it's that's a huge, huge, bold
move by the company. So yeah, I'm gonna trust the
(21:21):
process with this one. See where do you go with it?
I don't know. If she holds it for crazy long,
she could be a transitional champion, could drop it soon
if I if, for one they seem to roll the
dice on someone like Jada Parker, I would certainly hope
they would. But yeah, I mean, Bob, so we're gonna
(21:44):
stay on topic with NXT and go to something which
we kind of already, you know, kind of talked about
a little bit, so we'll offer a few more on it.
We offer a little bit Stephanie on Jordan Grace, But
one person that we did not mentioned was Ricky Saints,
who also dropped the North American Championship to Ethan Page
(22:05):
on this past week's episode of NXT. Seems like it
seems like his name is coming up a lot as
far as as far as main roster. So you have already, uh, Julia,
you have have called up already Roxane Perez who have
or you have called up already who are both in
the money to bank Ladder match Saturday. Jordan Grace is
(22:27):
also a name that's being discussed on coming up. She
hasn't been officially called up, but yeah, I would assume
it's coming. And then now and now Rocky Saints, who's
also a name being talked about. And I think calling
up these people so quickly, I think they're doing the
right thing because because you're if you keep names like
(22:50):
this in NXT for too long, then you're missing the
point as to what NXT even is. NXT is mainly
a developmental for people who need that training, who need
to work with that developmental program before you get to
the biggs to raw or SmackDown. And these three people
right here don't need NXT. Ricky Saints worked in AEW
(23:10):
for years, Who's worked with great names in AEW, who
has been in NXT for a little bit now, who
has held a championship already in NXT. Jordan Grace, she
was on the first ever pay per view for AW.
I believe, I believe she was in. It was either
(23:30):
AW or when they did the first all in pay
per view, the want that Cody and the Bucks put
on by themselves. She wasn't one to know she was
in some sort of battle oil or maybe she was
in both of them. And Stephanie vak Here, I mean,
she didn't need NXT at all, but she went there
for a while. She held the Women's North American Championship,
(23:51):
the NXT Women's Championship. She did it all in so
little time, and they called her up extremely quickly. So
and now Stephanie has her chance to earn her spot
in the Women's Money to Bank to Saturday as well.
So I mean, you have three NXT call ups potentially
to be in the Money to Bank Ladder Match to Saturday,
(24:12):
or you have two already confirmed, one who can earn it,
and now you have Ricky Saints who was on his
way to the main roster as it stands, and Jordan
Grace as well. So I believe, going back to you know,
a couple of topics ago, that's why you bring Mariah
May first to NXT because if you're going to call
up all these people so quickly, you got to have
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someone as a sort of replacement for it. So, I mean, Jordan,
what do you make of these these call ups that
are happening. Stephanie has already been confirmed for the raw roster.
I would imagine Jordan Grace maybe goes to smack Down.
Where do you see Jordan Grace going? And where do
you see Ricky Saints possibly ending up.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Jordan Grace. Maybe let's see guys SmackDown Saints maybe Raw? Maybe? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I mean, if if you're going to showcase a talent
like Ricky Saints, I think I think he got to
do it on in my opinion, to a show which
is is Raw. Now, if Ricky Saints was an attack
team and you're gonna showcase your tack team talents, it's
got to be SmackDown. SmackDown is the land for tag
teams right now. I mean there's so many name over there,
and I think if he was an attack team, yeah,
(25:26):
you obviously got a SmackDown, but raw, I feel like
you could thrive over there. Now, when does it happen?
I don't know, but it happened soon. Yeah, I think
it happens pretty soon. I don't think he drops that
title so quickly to ethan page if the call up
doesn't happen at some point. So uh, Bakeley says, you
release all those women and didn't have a plan when
(25:48):
they decided to call Grace, Julia or Roxanne Stephanie up.
Yeah they Yeah, they released quite a few women talent
and and had no plan in place for all these
call ups. If you call up Stevnivak, Heir, Jordan, Grace, Julia, Roxanne,
but you're releasing people like Gigi Dolan, like Cora Jade
among others. Yeah, what are you doing? I mean, they
(26:13):
had zero plan in place for when they release these people,
and now you're calling people up. So now you're putting
the women's division in NXT kind of in a bad
position and have to make other people a star when
you're when you're taking the other stars away. So yeah,
I think they have some major shoes to fill whenever,
(26:36):
because Stephanie's making her actual main roster debut tonight and
Jordan Grace is sure to follow right after the same
thing with Ricky Saints, I mean, I feel like losing
him in NXT. I mean there's other big names in NXT,
so I don't think Ricky Saint's gonna be as big
of a loss to the men's roster as you know, Stephanie, Julia,
(26:58):
Jordan Grace, Roxanne are gonna be to the women's division
at n XT. So it's all a wait and see.
Sometimes I want to trust the process with would be
sometimes it's hard to. But yeah, NXT either way is
in good hands. So so let's switch over to the
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main topic as to why we're here, and that is
money in the bank, and we're gonna kick off right
away with the women's money in the bank ladder match.
There is one spot to be determined tonight. What we'll
do is for the women's in the men's ladder match.
Since there is one spot that's left to be determined,
we're gonna pick that match first and then we're going
(27:43):
to pick our sole winner of each each ladder match.
So for the women's first, there is one match to
be determined tonight. It is let me bring it up
it Ivy no Ile, Live Morgan and Stephanie vach here.
(28:04):
So who gets san Jordan and who is your actual
winner of the women's money the Bank?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I thanks Stephanie back here is gonna win it tonight
when they get in and I'm gonna I'm gonna go
with Julia Julia the win the money in the bank.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
All right, Hey, what's going on straights? Appreciate you tuning in?
And Ryan is going with Rock Sande to win the
money to bank with Naomi as as a backup. So
what's going on? Don appreciate you for tuning in. And yeah, man,
we're gonna be watching you and justin later on on
on cod for Monday Night rows. So be sure to
(28:48):
check that out everyone on the Circle of Debate YouTube channel.
As far as the qualifying match, I am gonna go
with Live Morgan to qualify for it, and for the
women's I am going to agree with Ryan on that
one and go with Roxanne. I think I think rox
Sanne is the perfect one to hold that briefcase. If
(29:12):
they're going to have her hold it for quite some time,
you know, she like the character has it to hold
that briefcase. I think Ryan's doing something with Naomi as
the backup because I can see her being one to
hold that briefcase for quite some time. But Roxanne, I
feel like, is the one who is going to prevail
(29:34):
as as the holder of that one. So we're gonna
move on to the tag team match, which I believe
is slated to be the main events of the show,
and that is John Cena and Logan Paul taking on
Jay us and Cody Rhodes Jordan. Who you got.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
How I'm time to go with? I guess I'll go
with Jay Usu and Cody Roose.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I don't know I'm taking this one. The thing is,
I have no idea who I'm taking in this match.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
It's not hard.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It was hard to pick because the thing is is
that is that is for one, you can't see Sena
taking the loss because or the pin, I should say,
because you know he's on this big retirement tour. You
know you don't see Sina taking a pin in the
middle of it. And Jay can't take the pin because
(30:41):
he's the world champion and Cody just came back, so
do you really see him taking it? I feel like
the only person I see taking a pin in this
match is Logan Paul. Yeah, so I guess for that reason,
I'll go Jay and Cody. I mean, unless you got
something big plan for in the middle of the match,
(31:02):
end events, there's no particular reason to have this main event.
But I don't I don't know. I think I think
they're in a rough spot with this one. I think
they could have did something a lot bigger and better
for this. A lot of people were advocating for Sena
and Punk to happen during this. We know Sina would
(31:22):
win to keep the title, but a lot of people
wanted it. I mean, I would have loved to see
them more than seeing this tag match. This tag match,
to me, absolutely makes no sense. Why is John seeing
the team and with Logan Paul the zero reason for
this match to happen. But I don't know. I mean,
(31:43):
it's a weird match.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It is.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
It's a very weird match because they made it right
at the end of Saturday. It's main events. Why have
this match? There's zero reason to have it? But I mean,
we don't make the call here if if you know,
if I if I was booking it, it wouldn't like
like this at all. Street said, any of the new
(32:06):
call ups would be great, but I think Naomi earned
it the most. Yeah, I mean, if Roxanne doesn't win it,
I would love to see Naomi hold that briefcase and
he thinks some Shenanigans is gonna happen, and Seena and
Paul win. Seena pins Cody, builds up Sena versus Cody.
I mean, could you see Cody taking a pin for
the second time from Sina. I mean, yes, I know,
(32:27):
WrestleMania with some bullshit that Sino won by pinning Cody.
It wasn't cleaned by any means, you know, with with
stupid Travis Scott coming out there making zero zero reason
to be out there, you know, one of the weirdest
and stupidest main events I've seen in WrestleMania. I mean why,
(32:47):
I mean, why have Cody take the pin again? Like
I said, I see one person in this match taking
the pin and it's Logan Paul.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, I can't see that.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
That's I mean yeah, Street said, the money is to Chase.
I mean, that's all it is now with the money money,
this money, and Ryan said Jay has had the worst
booking as a champion. Doesn't feel like he's a champion.
I mean, I feel like anybody right now and there
be if you're a champion, has weird booking. I mean,
look what they did the Gunther Gunther was one of
the top names as the Intercontinental Champion. His booking was fantastic.
(33:22):
He uh, he broke the Hongky tunk Man's record as
Intercontinental champion, and then you put him as world champion
and his booking is awful. Same and the same thing
with Jay. J doesn't need to be world champion. I mean,
he had his moment at WrestleMania, but I think right
now are zero reason for him to be champion right now.
(33:44):
So I'm thinking maybe that's why this is the main event,
is maybe Jay gets his ass swipt and someone cashes
it at the end. The women's champion is not being
defended at this show unless they last minute book it.
So I don't see any reason for a women for
for the women to cash in. So if you're gonna
(34:06):
fantasy book a cash in it, it's gonna be for
the men. And it's not gonna be anybody targeting Sena.
It's gonna be someone targeting j uh Dom says that
that he could see, Yeah, that he could see Sena
possibly taking the pen only because the tag match, and
it would build a scene of Cody rematches SummerSlam. Street
says that Sena versus Punk and so it was a set.
(34:29):
It set up on Giant Ty for them for money
the bank. It was a perfect event for their finale. Yeah,
I mean we we we just talked about it on
on Game Breaker, on on CEOD that Sena Punk was
right there, I mean it was right in front of
him on a silver platter, and then went with this
this bogus tag match. Bakeley says, the logan's gonna pin
(34:51):
Jay And he said, and when Gunther actually is gonna
get his match was he's supposed to two weeks ago? Yeah,
I mean it's all weird booking right now. I think
I for one thing, that Jade doesn't need to still
be world champion now. Like I said, he had his
moments and the moment's gone. So you need that actual
(35:13):
dominant world champion and it's not Jay Uso. Unfortunately, as
much as I loved, but that he won the Royal
Rumble and that he wanted WrestleMania and in a terrible way.
By the way, he may gun through of all people
tap out to his own move by the way, Yeah
(35:33):
that's not good man, That's that's not good at all.
But yeah, I do agree with with Ryan that, yeah,
he's had the worst booking as a champion. He is,
it's not like even he's the world champion at all.
But this match makes no sense, and I guess I'll
and I guess I'll make a pick that makes absolute
zero sense that Logan Paul is gonna get pinned. And
(35:57):
I really don't care who the one is to pen,
whether it's Cody or Jay could the others make no
sense to it in the pen to get pinned. So,
if that's your main event, you've got to have something
to go down there, and it please, for the love
of God, if you want the people to be invested,
to have something go down there in this match, because
because it's gonna bore a lot of people to death.
(36:21):
All right, let's go to our next match for the
women's in her Continental Championship, Becky Lynch and Lyra Valkyria.
There is a stipulation to this. I read instead of
Lynch loses, she can no longer challenge for the title
as long as Valkyria's champion. As Valcaria loses, she will
be forced to raise Lynch's hand and acknowledge Lynch as
(36:41):
the better woman. What a what an awful? What an
awful stipulation? That is what are they doing? Lyra Valcaria
has to raise her hand and acknowledge her what.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Is now?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
For one, I can understand the stipulation of cannot being
able to to, you know, to go for the championship
no more as long as Lyra is the champion. But
I mean what I'm what are they doing? This is
not drawing people in with this type of stipulation. I mean,
(37:18):
I'll go first. I think Becky wins. She didn't win
it backlash and I think that you're setting her up
to win a money in the bank because if she loses,
she can't go for this title no more. I mean
unless you're planning for her to be world champion again
one day. She's got to win this title. And honestly,
the booking for Lira has been terrible. As Inner Connaut champion,
(37:41):
the booking in general for champions, like I said, has
been awful. Your two world champions are getting terrible booking
the last to last TV, specially that Sena didn't even
defend it. It was against our truth. I get it's
and Sena was gonna win no matter what, but put
title up for grabs, so he even defended at the
(38:02):
last show. Uh, Becky wins, I mean, Becky is It's
gonna be the champion, I think, and please, for the
love of God, give her better booking than Liar has
had a champion because as the first intercontinental champion, it
has been so boring to watch. I'm sorry for one,
because Lira's good. I mean, don't get me wrong, She's
(38:23):
a great wrestler, but god damn she still as fuck
do I I can't do it, So give me Becky
as the champion. Maybe they'll bring some sort of shine
to it, because unfortunately Liar can't do it. Also, Bakley says,
do we get Bailey back after this if Becky wins?
I for one think so, and Tom says that OGK
(38:45):
Bailey could cost Becky leading up to a match down
the line because those two don't need a Mike car
bell I agree, but for one, I can't see Liar
as champion no more. I mean, honestly, who else would
take it off for her at this point? I mean,
if if Becky wins, then you have Becky Bailey go
at it for the Inerconal champion at a Summer Slam.
(39:08):
Have have Bailey take it off for her and have
Becky go for something bigger, because you all know that
she's worth something bigger. I mean, she ain't worth the
inter Continental Championship, but if you lose it again, she
can't challenge for it and then and Liar's reign is
is going to continue. So so I picked her first
(39:30):
for backlash, I'm picking her again. I think Becky went Sjordan,
who you got.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I'm gonna go with Becky this time because I picked
the black caread the last time, But I'm gonna go
with Becky this time. And yeah, the booking has been terrible,
like you said, for for the champions and I guess
she's gonna be holding up Becky's arm at the end
of dismatch.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, because white the hell not? Huh Jesus Christ, Yeah, asked,
I mean that, I mean that's the route we're going.
I mean Dom said, maybe rox Sander or Stephanie is
used to call of and a new talent in the
icy division the horse worom and they're still as hell
to me, Yeah they are, man, they are still uh
you know Becky, uh fuck Charlotte and bailing on them. Yeah, man,
(40:22):
I mean maybe that newer talent can can do something.
I mean, Stephanie's coming in Roxanne if she if she
doesn't win Money in the Bank, or even if she
does win it, she could still hold a title. I
mean for when you got to bring these women in
for a reason. So if Lyra ends up beating Becky,
didn't have one of these newer talents take it off
(40:43):
of her. And then we're getting to our final match,
which which will not be the main events, and I
think this match could maybe play into the main events
if some stuff goes down. There is one qualifying match
left for tonights and that is aj Styles See Them
(41:07):
Punk and El Grande Americano Jordan. Who gets in and
who is your pick to win the twenty twenty five
Men's Money in the Bank briefcase.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I'm going with see Them Punk the Wind the match
tonight and I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go see
them punk to win the money in the bank contract.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Oh okay, this is the first time I've heard I've
heard punks ain't being thrown into the winner spot, so
that could either be a really good pick or a
disastrous pick. So it's gonna go either we'll be I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah,
maybe and maybe you're up to something or maybe not.
But I'm also going to see them punk to get
(41:56):
into this match. I don't I don't think A J's
into it. I think El Grande Americano has a score
to settle with Panta so and I know he's getting
ready for Worlds Collide as well. Chad Gable with a
King Yo so different one already spoiled that with him
(42:19):
and Alberto, even though he did end up beating Alberto
for that championship. So they are finding out World's Collide,
which is gonna be really cool. I would have picked
World's Collide because it is on the same day on Saturday,
but I know somebody was triple A names I'm not
familiar with, and I know sure as hell you're not
familiar with. After we're done, I can bring up the
card because there are some names you do know, and
(42:40):
some I do know, so we can pick a couple
once this is over. But yeah, I do see sEH
Punk getting into this match. It makes sense, And like
Ryan said, it seems like Seth Roland seems like the
obvious choice because they could take each other out Punk
and Rob because they do hate each other and they've
(43:01):
hated each other since Bunk got back and he has
taken Androtte as a surprise win, and Bakeley has taken
El Grande Americano to win the qualifying match to get in. Now, Bakeley,
are you taking him to win the briefcase or just
a qualifying match because he didn't specify on that. So
I would like to know what you think about the
Men's Mighty Bank. I think I think Punk or or
(43:26):
I think Rollins is the obvious pick because if he wins,
then you could see him cashing in the same night
on Jay and winning the world title and actually putting
some recognition on the World Championship. But I'm going with
a surprise as well. I'm going with the person that
should have won back in twenty twenty three, and I'm
(43:46):
going with l A. Knight. I think Ellen's gonna win
this match, and I think he should have won it
two years ago, and I think that this is the time.
Do you give it to him if you're not going
to roll with him as US champion and if you
see bigger stuff in his future, didn't have him win
the briefcase. I think he can do great things with
(44:08):
that briefcase. And and when he wins the briefcase, then
you turn them he'll again because I mean, I mean,
just because these heel doesn't mean the crowd isn't gonna
channel along with them. It's just if you're gonna hold
that briefcase, if you're gonna go after I mean I
doubt he goes after Sena. He's not gonna cash it
on Sena. If you maybe go to Raw and cash
(44:29):
in on Jay, you've got to be a heel. I mean,
you can't be a face cashing in on J. So
it's so it's gonna go one or two ways. It's
gonna go Rollin's winning cashing in on Jay the same night,
or it's gonna be l A and Knight that wins
and he gets moved to Raw and he cash is
it on Ja. So basically, either way, Jay's getting cashed
in on So Jay's so Ju. So your days are
(44:51):
numbered in my opinion, because I don't see Solo winning.
I don't see Androtti, even though that would be a
huge surprise to me, and I would love if that happened,
to be honest, because I think that Andrede's character it
deserves it after those many matches he had with Carmelo
(45:11):
Hayes when he first got there. I mean, we're great.
I mean his character work has been fantastic, His n
ring work is amazing. So yeah, Androde would be a
huge surprised, but I would love it if it happened.
And for when Penta it's gonna come one day. I
(45:32):
think he's gonna be world champion one day, but I
think for some reason they're going to keep him on
that mid card level for a little bit longer. So
La Knight wins. Bakley has also taken l A Knight
to win and should have happened two years ago, but
I think it's finally gonna happen on Saturday, that La
Knight is going to be the Men's money to Bank
a briefcase holder. So that will do it for our picks.
(46:01):
I'm gonna switch over to World's Collide just for a second,
because it is happening the exact same day as Money
to Bank. It's airing. If it lets me zoom in
on the goddamn picture, it's so small. Uh, it's at
three pm Eastern, it's happening. So let's see. There were
(46:24):
a couple of matches that I had in mind, all right,
So yeah, singles match, pretty triple A Mega Championship. It's
Vacano and Chad Gable. I mean, that's that's the big
match they're promoting. So if Kenyo retains or Chad Gables winning,
and Jordan I think he retained. I think so too.
I mean he just wanted so yeah, I mean, why
(46:45):
wouldn't maybe have him keep it? And the only other
match we're going to predict because like I said, I
don't really know these people, and I know neither do you.
But it's it's a fatal four way for the NXT
North American Championship. Ethan Page defending against Jovon Evans, Laredo
(47:07):
Kid and Ray Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Ethan Page.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
I think, if if you're gonna have Ethan Page win
the championship, but now he's showing up on SmackDown I
know Javon Evans w on SmackDown as well. I don't
know the route they go and Ray Phoenix is already
on the main roster. Yeah, they bakeically took it out
of my mouth. I think Jovan Evans wins it. I
(47:37):
think the plan to take it off of Ricky Saints
was just to get him to the Maine roster. And
I think, honestly, I think Ethan Page is not too
far behind him. So if you're gonna have a young
star hold that North American Championship, it's gotta be Jovon Evans.
So Javon Evans is is that winner for me? And
that's the only two matches we're gonna predict from World's Collide.
(48:00):
There are five matches on the card. I am. I
do plan on watching it. I think it's gonna be
a really, really good show. Seeing Triple A and H
and w B get into the mix. I think it's
really cool for to do something like this, even even
(48:20):
purchasing Triple A. So I think that's gonna be good. Uh,
basically he's putting in this picks as well. There's a
lot of these people I don't know. I'm not familiar
with the triple A roster unfortunately, so I would have
did a little bit more for it if I did
know more about it, but fortunately don't so but I
will do it. For this live stream edition of the
(48:42):
World Elite podcast, we want to thank everyone who tuned in,
who commented, gave their picks for money the bank, gave
their take on all these topics that we talked about,
our truth Mariah made Jacy Jane, the call ups and whatnot,
and uh yeah, we are truly thankful for everyone who
tuned in. Join us next week as we will be here,
(49:05):
same time, same place next Monday at five o'clock PM Central.
I only moved to thirty minutes because we had some
stuff going on before, so I thought the thirty minute
window would have been better. Could it at five o'clock
because everything we had going on ended up being a
little early, so but we kept at five thirty since
(49:27):
it was on all social medias. Didn't want to change
it in the last minute. But yeah, next Monday at
five pm Central, Facebook and YouTube, we'll be covering the
recap of World's collide, money in the bank, maybe a
few topics. Praying no more negative topics come in before Monday.
(49:48):
But if it does, we'll be talking about it, hopefully
some positive stuff that we can talk about as well,
and hopefully, for the love of God, give us something
good from Money to Bank talk to talk about. Because
as much as we as much as we gave some
negative stuff on Money to Bank, I hope they prove
its strong and they gave us a good show. I'm
looking forward to it regardless. I'm praying for a good show.
(50:10):
I think I think it'll be a good show. Before that, Jordan,
your excitement level on the scale from one to ten,
what you.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Got, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go at nine.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Oh at nine wow because of the card I guess,
because of who's in each money in the bank, and
even though I'm not loving this tag match. Also, I'll
go with a I go with an eight. I think
it'll be a good show. And yeah, you heard my
dog bark and she was sure she was fucking bound
(50:46):
to bark. We went almost the whole show without any
noise from her, and she gave it right at the end,
so it was common. But yeah, I'm going with a eight.
I think I think it's gonna be a good show.
I'm praying for a good show. I always pray for
a good show no matter what I watch. So but yeah,
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To bad, back to back to back, back to back
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(00:48):
to pay by Pad to pay Back.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hey, what's going on everybody? And welcome back to another
livestream edition of the World Thatly Podcast. I'm your host
Dylan Abert and with me as always as my tax
team partner and my co host, Jordan Johnson. Jordan, how's
it going.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Man, I's going great. Ready to kill it again this week?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Absolutely, when I thank everyone for tuning in these last
couple of weeks, Jordan and I feel like we've been
on a role pushing out more content as far as
YouTube shorts, as far as just video uploads and everything
that we can possibly do. Jordan and I are putting
a network and doing some more stuff as far as
YouTube shorts go. We do have one dropping tomorrow from
(01:58):
Money in the Bank. Check that out tomorrow. And we
do have a second one that's going to be dropping
sometime later this week, maybe Thursday or Friday, so I'll
be on the lookout for that one as well. But yes,
today is our Money in the Bank Prediction Show. But
unfortunately we do have some things to talk about before,
So why don't we jump into our first topic, Jordan
(02:19):
a few month switching over yes, and unfortunately we have
to start off on a sad note. A few people
had their contracts not renewed, and the top one that
we're talking about today is Our Truth They did not
renew a few others. They did Valhalla, who also known
as Sarah Logan today, and they also did Carlito not
(02:43):
long after they did Our Troops. But Our Truths was
the one that caught a lot of people by surprise,
including myself, Jordan, that was surprised, and a lot of
the IWC, a lot of people backstage who work personally
with Our Truth and whatnot was really really called off
guard by it. So, Jordan, before I give my take
on it, I want to know what you were thinking,
(03:04):
what you're thinking right now. You know, as far as
someone who was in a mid card match against John
Cena at Saturday Night's main event, who just worked on
SmackDown against jac Matteo, who was his final match, and
someone who just did amazing character work for years and
years and years, you know, it was time with the
judgment day the confused persona that he gave off, like,
(03:26):
you know, not knowing that he wasn't in the money
in the bank match years ago when Kane had to
had to tell him it was in New Orleans too,
when when Caine had to tell him that he wasn't
in it, or during the rumble match when he got
the ladder out and climbed up and there was no
title there, or when he entered the women's rumble instead
of the men's. You know, the funny gimmick he had
(03:47):
and just you know, just doing stuff to make people break.
And that's something that he was so good for, you know,
making people break character, you know, like he did Damien
Priest a lot when he worked with the judge day
and whatnot. But give me your take on all of this.
I mean, this is this is some big news that
comes out. You know, it's not every day we talk
(04:08):
about a fifty plus year old not having his contract
renewed and and it's just turned into big news like this.
Some people are still talking about it to this day.
I mean, happened, happened yesterday morning, and to this day
people are still talking about it. I mean, I mean
people are not happy. So so what do you think?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, no, this is some well it's pretty sad because
he's he's it was awesome when he came out like
what's up? And I even did it. It was pretty awesome.
The last time we saw him was at SmackDown in
New Orleans when he called U when was it h
l A U.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
L A night Louisiana and I he called him.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, that was pretty cool. And then he called somebody
d X I remember in the.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Back, Oh it was it was Di because because Tomaso
Champa always looked before he shaved, his beard always looks
like triple h.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah. So yeah, that's it's like, it's really sad right
now that we won't see him no more.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, I mean before before I even I even go
into this, you know, do you see him showing up anywhere?
You know, I know, his contract's not being renewed. This
means he can go show up anywhere he wants. Do
you see Tony Kahan even even attempting it? Do you
see him going to TNA, who also has a working
relationship with the WWE, who if he wants to, he
(05:37):
could show up there if you wanted to. And I
feel like if he shows up at TNA, he can
keep that sort of confused gimmick like he shows up
in TNA confuse where everybody's at as opposed to when
he was in WE I mean, do you think he
goes anywhere? Do you think it's all said and done,
even though I think he's in great shape.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, I can see probably TNA, I don't put it,
don't don't know, no, non eight me, I don't think. Yeah,
I think that that's gonna be a good choice if
he does still go right.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So yeah, whenever, whenever I heard the news yesterday, I
was I was called off guard. I mean, this guy
is doing some of the best work of his career,
was one of the top the top merch sellers. I mean,
I mean anything this guy did was immediately turned to gold.
And uh, I was really called off guard by I think.
(06:32):
I think that that would be made a terrible move,
and a lot of people blaming Triple H. A lot
of people are pulling, you know, TKO into this, and
I feel like it's more of a TKO move than
it is a Triple H move. And I really don't
think having a fifty plus year old on the roster
who was one of your top merch sellers is any
reason to make a quote unquote business decision to not
(06:54):
renew his contract. So I think that that's a horrible
move to let him go. I think he was doing
some of the best work like I mentioned doing. Or
he came out during the money in the Bank promo
and it was saying what he was going to do
in the money to Bank even though he wasn't even
the match. During the women's Rumble, whenever he came out
(07:15):
after Vahalla came out and got attacked by Nia Jacks,
or whenever it's the men's rumble and he put the
ladder up and he climbs up to it while everyone's
just watching him do it instead of trying to interrupt them.
I mean, I don't think there was any wrongdoing of
anything that he did, and to let him go is
(07:35):
I think a pretty pretty questionable decision. I know it
struck a lot of people bad backstage. It's striking a
lot of people bad who watch actually watch wrestling. And
now we look at Wob's Twitter page. Anytime he post
them about raw anything, they anytime they post something about
anything right now, it is people boycotting. They're just putting
a hashtag. We want truth, you know, rehire truth, bring
(07:58):
back truth. I mean, people want our Truth back on
DW roster. So I'm gonna watch Monday Night Ral tonight
as I'm watching d LSU baseball game later on as
they start an hour later from Monday Night Raw. But
I want to see the initial reaction from the crowd
with our Truth no longer on the roster. And I
(08:19):
know that people are upset about Carlito not coming back
as well. I mean, it sucks about Valhalla as well,
but I'm not seeing the uproar that I'm seeing about
the other two. And I mean, what could this mean
for other talent that's on their roster with their contracts
coming up, the older talent that's on their roster, could
they not get theirs renewed as well? So I'm I'm
(08:44):
waiting and see it. What's gonna happen with this because
I think Our Truth, Carlito and Valhalla is just the
beginning of something not good for the w W. Now
people were already pissed with for the other releases that
they did a few weeks back. Now they're not renewing
a contract wanted the beloved members on the roster, and
uh yeah, people people aren't happy, including myself, including you,
(09:07):
including others. I mean, I think it's a bad move.
Before we move on, hop into a couple of comments,
what's going on, Bakeley? Justin your mom's tuning in Jordan,
my sister mom. Bakeley said he could see either TNA
or aew he's hoping ae W. I disagree because he's
(09:27):
going to be that shiny new toy and then turned
into somebody you're never going to see again. And what's
going on? Tim? Thanks for tuning in as well, man,
But yeah, I mean it's all a wait and see.
I think they're gonna realize what a terrible decision they made,
and I would hope that they decide to maybe change
(09:47):
their mind and bring him back. But honestly, with the
direction TKO is going right now, I wouldn't put it
past them to just say, oh, we're not gonna do anything.
But if you're not going to do anything, if you're
not going to change your mind and offer him a contract,
at least just at least give him the proper sendoff,
because this is a man that has put in so
(10:08):
many years for this company. There's no reason to not
renew his contract and to not mention him one time
at all. Because this is this is someone who shows
up every week and whether he's doing backstage work, whether
he's doing something to ring or whatever, he is always
bringing joy to everybody, whether they're backstage, if they're in
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the arena in their seats, or or watching it on TV.
So I'm some very confused by it, and I from
when I'm not going to trust the process at all
because I think they made a terrible decision. But before
we move on, Jordan got anything else to offer on it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No, it's just I think it's just a terrible move.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It is so from one contract expiring from one company
to another contract expiring on the other company. Mariah May
has been removed from the aw website. She has slated
to make her WWE debut soon. I'm assuming I don't
know when her actual contract expires. I seen I've seen
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different reports. I know I've seen like August, it could
be earlier. I don't know when the actual contract comes up. Now,
I do know sooner or later. The Evolution Poe is
going to be happening in Atlanta the day after Saturday
Night's made event. I know that's a big topic of
discussion right now, is to win. Mariah May could debut
(11:47):
I don't think she goes to NXT. Maybe she does.
I know NXT is losing a few people. We'll talk
that on our final topic before the money the bank picks.
I mean, do you see her and roster bound. Do
you see her going to NXT at first, maybe to
help that women's division before a jump to the main roster.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah. I can see her probably going to NXT first,
kind of helping them out a little bit, and then
probably not that long, maybe not, but then jump over
to raws sknockdown.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And truthfully for her character wise, for her in the
ring in general, I don't think she needs NXT, but
I think that she'll go to NXT route first like
others did, like like you know, Stephanie and Jordan, Grace
and Julia and whatnot, people who I didn't think needed
NXT but still went that route just for a little
while and now the main roster bound. Same thing from
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Mariah May. I think I think she goes to NXT
just for a little bit, and then she's called up
very quickly. She's one of those quick call ups like
we've been seeing. I do think she's making the right
decision also, not signing back with AEW. I would assume
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Tony Kah maybe or or I shall say, did throw
her a lot of money to try and stay. But
I did say on a past stream last week that
it was her dream to go to WWE. She said
this in the past, and I think AEW was that
platform to get her there. She did it already because
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because look a look at others who have started off
an AEW with that intention of not signing back and
going to WWE. And I believe Adobe could really make
her a star if she's booked correctly. And that's one
thing I'm worried about is the booking. The booking for
everybody right now has been pretty rough. I feel like
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Adobe's in a pretty rough place right now with the
ar truth and the releases and and you know t
KO in general. But I think I have one thing.
Once they figure that out, I think she's gonna be
good and and she's been fine. Basically says she would
get lost in the shuffle if she went straight to
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the mainor roster. I sort of agree with that because
with all the call ups that are happening right now,
I think I think NXT would be the perfect spot
for her right now, and maybe that's the reason why
they're calling up people so fast. I feel like I
feel like I'm jumping the gun to our to our
fourth topic with NXT. But but really I feel like
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that's why they're calling her, or do why if she
goes to NXT, so you know, it's the reason why
they be calling up these people so fast. So maybe
NXT is the prime spot for Mariah May right now,
but when the time is right to bring her to
the main roster of Jordan, do you think that this
is the perfect move for her? Do you think she
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should have stayed in AW or do you think that
w W is the prime spot for her right now?
Because I feel like that in AW, that women's division
is mainly focused around people like Tony Storm, Mercedes Monet,
and honestly not many others. I mean, like you don't
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see the women getting too big an opportunity over there,
Like you don't see much of a of a christ
at Lander. You don't see honestly, I didn't watch Dynamite
on Wednesday, But like people like Megan Bain, who I thought,
you know, could be something big over there, I'm not
seeing much of her. You know, it's mainly focused around
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the circus act that got over there with Mercedes and
Tony having a dance off whenever you're focusing on women
and they're doing a dance off at the end of
their promo, which I think is a big clown show
over there. But honestly, do you do you think she
made the right decision leaving A Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I think she did because right now it's just what
between what two women or whatever? How many women for AW? Yeah,
things she did because right now it's just Tony Storming,
Mercedes Monday and whoever else wrestles, But every week it
is the same people wrestling.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, And honestly, with Mariah May, I think she's wanted
a few that could. I mean, I could leave and
go to B You know one name I would love
to see leave AW and go to B because they're
not doing a thing with her. I'm not sure if
she's heard. I didn't hear any news that she's heard.
But where's Britt Baker at? You haven't seen her and
(16:46):
god knows how long. I I mean, I mean, let
her go shine somewhere else unless unless you're having something
for her on on the AW roster. Let her go
somewhere else. I mean, she's one of the pyor New
Years for women's wrestling in ae W, and you're not
doing a thing with her. Like I said, I don't
know if she's her. I don't watch AW, but I
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haven't seen her or heard her name in forever, So
it's time to do something with her or let her
go somewhere else. So that's why I think Mariah May
is making the right decision and going to W. And
she did amazing work with Tony Storm. I think she
can credit Tony Storm with really putting her over as
far as a big talent and could see her doing
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big things in W for sure. Justin said NXT will
be the perfect starting point from Mariah May with Stephanitie Bakir,
possibly Jordan Grace, Julia roxand called up NXT has already
made a room for for Mariah. Yeah, I one hundred
percent agree. So while we're on the topic of NXT,
(17:52):
let's hop to our main two, to our next topic,
and that is something huge happened at the end of
last week's NXT up, so something I did not see coming.
But with I mean with the news of what we're
talking about in just a few minutes, I mean, for one,
you could see it coming, but I didn't see as
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to who they put it on. And that is a
j C. Jane defeated Stephanie Vakir. Yes, she had help
in the match, but she still beat Stephanie vak Heir
to win the NXT Women's Championship. Now, Jordan, you were watching,
I was not watching, because you do. You texted me
right after it happened, asked me if I was watching.
I'm like, no, did I miss something? So I went
(18:34):
straight to social media and all I'm seeing is like,
oh my god, oh my god. People are talking about
jac Jane winning the Wais's Championship and I was caught
off guard by that. I'm not gonna lie to you.
I was caught off guard. I did not expect jac
Jane to be the want to dethron Stephanie. I said,
if if Jordan Grace was your plan to stay in NXT,
(18:54):
it should have been her. But it's not now, is
is j C Jane You're your next big talent in
NXT to carry that women's division. I mean they certainly
maybe think so. Is she gonna be a transitional champion
getting to maybe someone different to hold that title. I
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don't know, but I think they made a pretty gutsy
move by putting the title on her. Jeorge, what was
the reaction once once this all went down.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, I was shocked that she she won. I looked
up at the TV and uh I saw one, two three,
and that was it. I was like, holy shit, like
this is like really happening, and.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah, uh yeah, I'm in the same boat, man,
I am. I was really caught off guard by this,
and I mean, knowing what I know now, am I
still surprised about it. I'm not surprised. I'm not so
surprised about Stephanie dropping the title. It's just I'm surprised
on who she dropped it too. So that's the only
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thing that I'm questioning right now is as like I
just asked, is J C. Jane is the next biggest
name in NXT? I mean, because if you're looking at
past members of Toxic Attraction, you know you had Mandy
Rose no longer with the company, Gigi Dolan also no
longer with the company. So I feel like J. C.
Jane is that next biggest name in NXT. But I mean,
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you have other people there who I feel like could
have been a potential better name to take it off
of her. I was thinking maybe someone like a maybe
Kelinie Jordan could have took it off for her soul. Ruka, Uh,
I mean Zaria. I mean there's other people that I
feel like maybe had that chance of doing it, and
(20:50):
they went with j. C. Jane of all people.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So what about Jada Parker her too?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I mean yeah, I mean she should have been the
top of anybody's list to take it off to Stephanie.
So the fact that they pulled a trigger on JC
Jane over like you mentioned Jada Parker, who suddenly never
even came to mind whenever I was mentioning anyone on
that roster, I think it's that's a huge, huge, bold
move by the company. So yeah, I'm gonna trust the
(21:21):
process with this one. See where do you go with it?
I don't know. If she holds it for crazy long,
she could be a transitional champion, could drop it soon
if I if, for one they seem to roll the
dice on someone like Jada Parker, I would certainly hope
they would. But yeah, I mean, Bob, so we're gonna
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stay on topic with NXT and go to something which
we kind of already, you know, kind of talked about
a little bit, so we'll offer a few more on it.
We offer a little bit Stephanie on Jordan Grace, But
one person that we did not mentioned was Ricky Saints,
who also dropped the North American Championship to Ethan Page
(22:05):
on this past week's episode of NXT. Seems like it
seems like his name is coming up a lot as
far as as far as main roster. So you have already, uh, Julia,
you have have called up already Roxane Perez who have
or you have called up already who are both in
the money to bank Ladder match Saturday. Jordan Grace is
(22:27):
also a name that's being discussed on coming up. She
hasn't been officially called up, but yeah, I would assume
it's coming. And then now and now Rocky Saints, who's
also a name being talked about. And I think calling
up these people so quickly, I think they're doing the
right thing because because you're if you keep names like
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this in NXT for too long, then you're missing the
point as to what NXT even is. NXT is mainly
a developmental for people who need that training, who need
to work with that developmental program before you get to
the biggs to raw or SmackDown. And these three people
right here don't need NXT. Ricky Saints worked in AEW
(23:10):
for years, Who's worked with great names in AEW, who
has been in NXT for a little bit now, who
has held a championship already in NXT. Jordan Grace, she
was on the first ever pay per view for AW.
I believe, I believe she was in. It was either
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AW or when they did the first all in pay
per view, the want that Cody and the Bucks put
on by themselves. She wasn't one to know she was
in some sort of battle oil or maybe she was
in both of them. And Stephanie vak Here, I mean,
she didn't need NXT at all, but she went there
for a while. She held the Women's North American Championship,
(23:51):
the NXT Women's Championship. She did it all in so
little time, and they called her up extremely quickly. So
and now Stephanie has her chance to earn her spot
in the Women's Money to Bank to Saturday as well.
So I mean, you have three NXT call ups potentially
to be in the Money to Bank Ladder Match to Saturday,
(24:12):
or you have two already confirmed, one who can earn it,
and now you have Ricky Saints who was on his
way to the main roster as it stands, and Jordan
Grace as well. So I believe, going back to you know,
a couple of topics ago, that's why you bring Mariah
May first to NXT because if you're going to call
up all these people so quickly, you got to have
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someone as a sort of replacement for it. So, I mean, Jordan,
what do you make of these these call ups that
are happening. Stephanie has already been confirmed for the raw roster.
I would imagine Jordan Grace maybe goes to smack Down.
Where do you see Jordan Grace going? And where do
you see Ricky Saints possibly ending up.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Jordan Grace. Maybe let's see guys SmackDown Saints maybe Raw? Maybe? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I mean, if if you're going to showcase a talent
like Ricky Saints, I think I think he got to
do it on in my opinion, to a show which
is is Raw. Now, if Ricky Saints was an attack
team and you're gonna showcase your tack team talents, it's
got to be SmackDown. SmackDown is the land for tag
teams right now. I mean there's so many name over there,
and I think if he was an attack team, yeah,
(25:26):
you obviously got a SmackDown, but raw, I feel like
you could thrive over there. Now, when does it happen?
I don't know, but it happened soon. Yeah, I think
it happens pretty soon. I don't think he drops that
title so quickly to ethan page if the call up
doesn't happen at some point. So uh, Bakeley says, you
release all those women and didn't have a plan when
(25:48):
they decided to call Grace, Julia or Roxanne Stephanie up.
Yeah they Yeah, they released quite a few women talent
and and had no plan in place for all these
call ups. If you call up Stevnivak, Heir, Jordan, Grace, Julia, Roxanne,
but you're releasing people like Gigi Dolan, like Cora Jade
among others. Yeah, what are you doing? I mean, they
(26:13):
had zero plan in place for when they release these people,
and now you're calling people up. So now you're putting
the women's division in NXT kind of in a bad
position and have to make other people a star when
you're when you're taking the other stars away. So yeah,
I think they have some major shoes to fill whenever,
(26:36):
because Stephanie's making her actual main roster debut tonight and
Jordan Grace is sure to follow right after the same
thing with Ricky Saints, I mean, I feel like losing
him in NXT. I mean there's other big names in NXT,
so I don't think Ricky Saint's gonna be as big
of a loss to the men's roster as you know, Stephanie, Julia,
(26:58):
Jordan Grace, Roxanne are gonna be to the women's division
at n XT. So it's all a wait and see.
Sometimes I want to trust the process with would be
sometimes it's hard to. But yeah, NXT either way is
in good hands. So so let's switch over to the
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main topic as to why we're here, and that is
money in the bank, and we're gonna kick off right
away with the women's money in the bank ladder match.
There is one spot to be determined tonight. What we'll
do is for the women's in the men's ladder match.
Since there is one spot that's left to be determined,
we're gonna pick that match first and then we're going
(27:43):
to pick our sole winner of each each ladder match.
So for the women's first, there is one match to
be determined tonight. It is let me bring it up
it Ivy no Ile, Live Morgan and Stephanie vach here.
(28:04):
So who gets san Jordan and who is your actual
winner of the women's money the Bank?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I thanks Stephanie back here is gonna win it tonight
when they get in and I'm gonna I'm gonna go
with Julia Julia the win the money in the bank.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
All right, Hey, what's going on straights? Appreciate you tuning in?
And Ryan is going with Rock Sande to win the
money to bank with Naomi as as a backup. So
what's going on? Don appreciate you for tuning in. And yeah, man,
we're gonna be watching you and justin later on on
on cod for Monday Night rows. So be sure to
(28:48):
check that out everyone on the Circle of Debate YouTube channel.
As far as the qualifying match, I am gonna go
with Live Morgan to qualify for it, and for the
women's I am going to agree with Ryan on that
one and go with Roxanne. I think I think rox
Sanne is the perfect one to hold that briefcase. If
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they're going to have her hold it for quite some time,
you know, she like the character has it to hold
that briefcase. I think Ryan's doing something with Naomi as
the backup because I can see her being one to
hold that briefcase for quite some time. But Roxanne, I
feel like, is the one who is going to prevail
(29:34):
as as the holder of that one. So we're gonna
move on to the tag team match, which I believe
is slated to be the main events of the show,
and that is John Cena and Logan Paul taking on
Jay us and Cody Rhodes Jordan. Who you got.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
How I'm time to go with? I guess I'll go
with Jay Usu and Cody Roose.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I don't know I'm taking this one. The thing is,
I have no idea who I'm taking in this match.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
It's not hard.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It was hard to pick because the thing is is
that is that is for one, you can't see Sena
taking the loss because or the pin, I should say,
because you know he's on this big retirement tour. You
know you don't see Sina taking a pin in the
middle of it. And Jay can't take the pin because
(30:41):
he's the world champion and Cody just came back, so
do you really see him taking it? I feel like
the only person I see taking a pin in this
match is Logan Paul. Yeah, so I guess for that reason,
I'll go Jay and Cody. I mean, unless you got
something big plan for in the middle of the match,
(31:02):
end events, there's no particular reason to have this main event.
But I don't I don't know. I think I think
they're in a rough spot with this one. I think
they could have did something a lot bigger and better
for this. A lot of people were advocating for Sena
and Punk to happen during this. We know Sina would
(31:22):
win to keep the title, but a lot of people
wanted it. I mean, I would have loved to see
them more than seeing this tag match. This tag match,
to me, absolutely makes no sense. Why is John seeing
the team and with Logan Paul the zero reason for
this match to happen. But I don't know. I mean,
(31:43):
it's a weird match.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It is.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
It's a very weird match because they made it right
at the end of Saturday. It's main events. Why have
this match? There's zero reason to have it? But I mean,
we don't make the call here if if you know,
if I if I was booking it, it wouldn't like
like this at all. Street said, any of the new
(32:06):
call ups would be great, but I think Naomi earned
it the most. Yeah, I mean, if Roxanne doesn't win it,
I would love to see Naomi hold that briefcase and
he thinks some Shenanigans is gonna happen, and Seena and
Paul win. Seena pins Cody, builds up Sena versus Cody.
I mean, could you see Cody taking a pin for
the second time from Sina. I mean, yes, I know,
(32:27):
WrestleMania with some bullshit that Sino won by pinning Cody.
It wasn't cleaned by any means, you know, with with
stupid Travis Scott coming out there making zero zero reason
to be out there, you know, one of the weirdest
and stupidest main events I've seen in WrestleMania. I mean why,
(32:47):
I mean, why have Cody take the pin again? Like
I said, I see one person in this match taking
the pin and it's Logan Paul.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, I can't see that.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
That's I mean yeah, Street said, the money is to Chase.
I mean, that's all it is now with the money money,
this money, and Ryan said Jay has had the worst
booking as a champion. Doesn't feel like he's a champion.
I mean, I feel like anybody right now and there
be if you're a champion, has weird booking. I mean,
look what they did the Gunther Gunther was one of
the top names as the Intercontinental Champion. His booking was fantastic.
(33:22):
He uh, he broke the Hongky tunk Man's record as
Intercontinental champion, and then you put him as world champion
and his booking is awful. Same and the same thing
with Jay. J doesn't need to be world champion. I mean,
he had his moment at WrestleMania, but I think right
now are zero reason for him to be champion right now.
(33:44):
So I'm thinking maybe that's why this is the main event,
is maybe Jay gets his ass swipt and someone cashes
it at the end. The women's champion is not being
defended at this show unless they last minute book it.
So I don't see any reason for a women for
for the women to cash in. So if you're gonna
(34:06):
fantasy book a cash in it, it's gonna be for
the men. And it's not gonna be anybody targeting Sena.
It's gonna be someone targeting j uh Dom says that
that he could see, Yeah, that he could see Sena
possibly taking the pen only because the tag match, and
it would build a scene of Cody rematches SummerSlam. Street
says that Sena versus Punk and so it was a set.
(34:29):
It set up on Giant Ty for them for money
the bank. It was a perfect event for their finale. Yeah,
I mean we we we just talked about it on
on Game Breaker, on on CEOD that Sena Punk was
right there, I mean it was right in front of
him on a silver platter, and then went with this
this bogus tag match. Bakeley says, the logan's gonna pin
(34:51):
Jay And he said, and when Gunther actually is gonna
get his match was he's supposed to two weeks ago? Yeah,
I mean it's all weird booking right now. I think
I for one thing, that Jade doesn't need to still
be world champion now. Like I said, he had his
moments and the moment's gone. So you need that actual
(35:13):
dominant world champion and it's not Jay Uso. Unfortunately, as
much as I loved, but that he won the Royal
Rumble and that he wanted WrestleMania and in a terrible way.
By the way, he may gun through of all people
tap out to his own move by the way, Yeah
(35:33):
that's not good man, That's that's not good at all.
But yeah, I do agree with with Ryan that, yeah,
he's had the worst booking as a champion. He is,
it's not like even he's the world champion at all.
But this match makes no sense, and I guess I'll
and I guess I'll make a pick that makes absolute
zero sense that Logan Paul is gonna get pinned. And
(35:57):
I really don't care who the one is to pen,
whether it's Cody or Jay could the others make no
sense to it in the pen to get pinned. So,
if that's your main event, you've got to have something
to go down there, and it please, for the love
of God, if you want the people to be invested,
to have something go down there in this match, because
because it's gonna bore a lot of people to death.
(36:21):
All right, let's go to our next match for the
women's in her Continental Championship, Becky Lynch and Lyra Valkyria.
There is a stipulation to this. I read instead of
Lynch loses, she can no longer challenge for the title
as long as Valkyria's champion. As Valcaria loses, she will
be forced to raise Lynch's hand and acknowledge Lynch as
(36:41):
the better woman. What a what an awful? What an
awful stipulation? That is what are they doing? Lyra Valcaria
has to raise her hand and acknowledge her what.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Is now?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
For one, I can understand the stipulation of cannot being
able to to, you know, to go for the championship
no more as long as Lyra is the champion. But
I mean what I'm what are they doing? This is
not drawing people in with this type of stipulation. I mean,
(37:18):
I'll go first. I think Becky wins. She didn't win
it backlash and I think that you're setting her up
to win a money in the bank because if she loses,
she can't go for this title no more. I mean
unless you're planning for her to be world champion again
one day. She's got to win this title. And honestly,
the booking for Lira has been terrible. As Inner Connaut champion,
(37:41):
the booking in general for champions, like I said, has
been awful. Your two world champions are getting terrible booking
the last to last TV, specially that Sena didn't even
defend it. It was against our truth. I get it's
and Sena was gonna win no matter what, but put
title up for grabs, so he even defended at the
(38:02):
last show. Uh, Becky wins, I mean, Becky is It's
gonna be the champion, I think, and please, for the
love of God, give her better booking than Liar has
had a champion because as the first intercontinental champion, it
has been so boring to watch. I'm sorry for one,
because Lira's good. I mean, don't get me wrong, She's
(38:23):
a great wrestler, but god damn she still as fuck
do I I can't do it, So give me Becky
as the champion. Maybe they'll bring some sort of shine
to it, because unfortunately Liar can't do it. Also, Bakley says,
do we get Bailey back after this if Becky wins?
I for one think so, and Tom says that OGK
(38:45):
Bailey could cost Becky leading up to a match down
the line because those two don't need a Mike car
bell I agree, but for one, I can't see Liar
as champion no more. I mean, honestly, who else would
take it off for her at this point? I mean,
if if Becky wins, then you have Becky Bailey go
at it for the Inerconal champion at a Summer Slam.
(39:08):
Have have Bailey take it off for her and have
Becky go for something bigger, because you all know that
she's worth something bigger. I mean, she ain't worth the
inter Continental Championship, but if you lose it again, she
can't challenge for it and then and Liar's reign is
is going to continue. So so I picked her first
(39:30):
for backlash, I'm picking her again. I think Becky went Sjordan,
who you got.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I'm gonna go with Becky this time because I picked
the black caread the last time, But I'm gonna go
with Becky this time. And yeah, the booking has been terrible,
like you said, for for the champions and I guess
she's gonna be holding up Becky's arm at the end
of dismatch.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, because white the hell not? Huh Jesus Christ, Yeah, asked,
I mean that, I mean that's the route we're going.
I mean Dom said, maybe rox Sander or Stephanie is
used to call of and a new talent in the
icy division the horse worom and they're still as hell
to me, Yeah they are, man, they are still uh
you know Becky, uh fuck Charlotte and bailing on them. Yeah, man,
(40:22):
I mean maybe that newer talent can can do something.
I mean, Stephanie's coming in Roxanne if she if she
doesn't win Money in the Bank, or even if she
does win it, she could still hold a title. I
mean for when you got to bring these women in
for a reason. So if Lyra ends up beating Becky,
didn't have one of these newer talents take it off
(40:43):
of her. And then we're getting to our final match,
which which will not be the main events, and I
think this match could maybe play into the main events
if some stuff goes down. There is one qualifying match
left for tonights and that is aj Styles See Them
(41:07):
Punk and El Grande Americano Jordan. Who gets in and
who is your pick to win the twenty twenty five
Men's Money in the Bank briefcase.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I'm going with see Them Punk the Wind the match
tonight and I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go see
them punk to win the money in the bank contract.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Oh okay, this is the first time I've heard I've
heard punks ain't being thrown into the winner spot, so
that could either be a really good pick or a
disastrous pick. So it's gonna go either we'll be I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah,
maybe and maybe you're up to something or maybe not.
But I'm also going to see them punk to get
(41:56):
into this match. I don't I don't think A J's
into it. I think El Grande Americano has a score
to settle with Panta so and I know he's getting
ready for Worlds Collide as well. Chad Gable with a
King Yo so different one already spoiled that with him
(42:19):
and Alberto, even though he did end up beating Alberto
for that championship. So they are finding out World's Collide,
which is gonna be really cool. I would have picked
World's Collide because it is on the same day on Saturday,
but I know somebody was triple A names I'm not
familiar with, and I know sure as hell you're not
familiar with. After we're done, I can bring up the
card because there are some names you do know, and
(42:40):
some I do know, so we can pick a couple
once this is over. But yeah, I do see sEH
Punk getting into this match. It makes sense, And like
Ryan said, it seems like Seth Roland seems like the
obvious choice because they could take each other out Punk
and Rob because they do hate each other and they've
(43:01):
hated each other since Bunk got back and he has
taken Androtte as a surprise win, and Bakeley has taken
El Grande Americano to win the qualifying match to get in. Now, Bakeley,
are you taking him to win the briefcase or just
a qualifying match because he didn't specify on that. So
I would like to know what you think about the
Men's Mighty Bank. I think I think Punk or or
(43:26):
I think Rollins is the obvious pick because if he wins,
then you could see him cashing in the same night
on Jay and winning the world title and actually putting
some recognition on the World Championship. But I'm going with
a surprise as well. I'm going with the person that
should have won back in twenty twenty three, and I'm
(43:46):
going with l A. Knight. I think Ellen's gonna win
this match, and I think he should have won it
two years ago, and I think that this is the time.
Do you give it to him if you're not going
to roll with him as US champion and if you
see bigger stuff in his future, didn't have him win
the briefcase. I think he can do great things with
(44:08):
that briefcase. And and when he wins the briefcase, then
you turn them he'll again because I mean, I mean,
just because these heel doesn't mean the crowd isn't gonna
channel along with them. It's just if you're gonna hold
that briefcase, if you're gonna go after I mean I
doubt he goes after Sena. He's not gonna cash it
on Sena. If you maybe go to Raw and cash
(44:29):
in on Jay, you've got to be a heel. I mean,
you can't be a face cashing in on J. So
it's so it's gonna go one or two ways. It's
gonna go Rollin's winning cashing in on Jay the same night,
or it's gonna be l A and Knight that wins
and he gets moved to Raw and he cash is
it on Ja. So basically, either way, Jay's getting cashed
in on So Jay's so Ju. So your days are
(44:51):
numbered in my opinion, because I don't see Solo winning.
I don't see Androtti, even though that would be a
huge surprise to me, and I would love if that happened,
to be honest, because I think that Andrede's character it
deserves it after those many matches he had with Carmelo
(45:11):
Hayes when he first got there. I mean, we're great.
I mean his character work has been fantastic, His n
ring work is amazing. So yeah, Androde would be a
huge surprised, but I would love it if it happened.
And for when Penta it's gonna come one day. I
(45:32):
think he's gonna be world champion one day, but I
think for some reason they're going to keep him on
that mid card level for a little bit longer. So
La Knight wins. Bakley has also taken l A Knight
to win and should have happened two years ago, but
I think it's finally gonna happen on Saturday, that La
Knight is going to be the Men's money to Bank
a briefcase holder. So that will do it for our picks.
(46:01):
I'm gonna switch over to World's Collide just for a second,
because it is happening the exact same day as Money
to Bank. It's airing. If it lets me zoom in
on the goddamn picture, it's so small. Uh, it's at
three pm Eastern, it's happening. So let's see. There were
(46:24):
a couple of matches that I had in mind, all right,
So yeah, singles match, pretty triple A Mega Championship. It's
Vacano and Chad Gable. I mean, that's that's the big
match they're promoting. So if Kenyo retains or Chad Gables winning,
and Jordan I think he retained. I think so too.
I mean he just wanted so yeah, I mean, why
(46:45):
wouldn't maybe have him keep it? And the only other
match we're going to predict because like I said, I
don't really know these people, and I know neither do you.
But it's it's a fatal four way for the NXT
North American Championship. Ethan Page defending against Jovon Evans, Laredo
(47:07):
Kid and Ray Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Ethan Page.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
I think, if if you're gonna have Ethan Page win
the championship, but now he's showing up on SmackDown I
know Javon Evans w on SmackDown as well. I don't
know the route they go and Ray Phoenix is already
on the main roster. Yeah, they bakeically took it out
of my mouth. I think Jovan Evans wins it. I
(47:37):
think the plan to take it off of Ricky Saints
was just to get him to the Maine roster. And
I think, honestly, I think Ethan Page is not too
far behind him. So if you're gonna have a young
star hold that North American Championship, it's gotta be Jovon Evans.
So Javon Evans is is that winner for me? And
that's the only two matches we're gonna predict from World's Collide.
(48:00):
There are five matches on the card. I am. I
do plan on watching it. I think it's gonna be
a really, really good show. Seeing Triple A and H
and w B get into the mix. I think it's
really cool for to do something like this, even even
(48:20):
purchasing Triple A. So I think that's gonna be good. Uh,
basically he's putting in this picks as well. There's a
lot of these people I don't know. I'm not familiar
with the triple A roster unfortunately, so I would have
did a little bit more for it if I did
know more about it, but fortunately don't so but I
will do it. For this live stream edition of the
(48:42):
World Elite podcast, we want to thank everyone who tuned in,
who commented, gave their picks for money the bank, gave
their take on all these topics that we talked about,
our truth Mariah made Jacy Jane, the call ups and whatnot,
and uh yeah, we are truly thankful for everyone who
tuned in. Join us next week as we will be here,
(49:05):
same time, same place next Monday at five o'clock PM Central.
I only moved to thirty minutes because we had some
stuff going on before, so I thought the thirty minute
window would have been better. Could it at five o'clock
because everything we had going on ended up being a
little early, so but we kept at five thirty since
(49:27):
it was on all social medias. Didn't want to change
it in the last minute. But yeah, next Monday at
five pm Central, Facebook and YouTube, we'll be covering the
recap of World's collide, money in the bank, maybe a
few topics. Praying no more negative topics come in before Monday.
(49:48):
But if it does, we'll be talking about it, hopefully
some positive stuff that we can talk about as well,
and hopefully, for the love of God, give us something
good from Money to Bank talk to talk about. Because
as much as we as much as we gave some
negative stuff on Money to Bank, I hope they prove
its strong and they gave us a good show. I'm
looking forward to it regardless. I'm praying for a good show.
(50:10):
I think I think it'll be a good show. Before that, Jordan,
your excitement level on the scale from one to ten,
what you.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Got, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go at nine.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Oh at nine wow because of the card I guess,
because of who's in each money in the bank, and
even though I'm not loving this tag match. Also, I'll
go with a I go with an eight. I think
it'll be a good show. And yeah, you heard my
dog bark and she was sure she was fucking bound
(50:46):
to bark. We went almost the whole show without any
noise from her, and she gave it right at the end,
so it was common. But yeah, I'm going with a eight.
I think I think it's gonna be a good show.
I'm praying for a good show. I always pray for
a good show no matter what I watch. So but yeah,
join us next week as we give our full take
on money, the bank, World's collide other topics. Social media First,
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(51:49):
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