July 5, 2022 • 28 mins
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Wrestling Anonymous. Please hold Welcome toWrestling Anonymous, the pro wrestling hotline show
where callers call in their stories fromin and around the world of professional wrestling,
and I, your host and prowrestler Cold Cabana, curate through them
all, addit them up, producethem up, and put them out as
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a podcast for you to listen to. Glad to be back with a fun
episode this week. Obviously the showcan no longer be weekly, but as
the calls come in, I docollect them and I will put them up
as a podcast as YouTube clips andtwo bonus episodes a month on the Patreon
have never stopped. If you signup now at the Patreon, you can
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go back in the archives and listento all of the past bonus episodes.
This month, I invited Chris Cubisfrom at Midnight in the World of Stand
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Wrestling and even Pro Wrestling Fringe,great review, tweet out share on social
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media. Tell your friends to callin their crazy story that they've always told
you about. What about you were. You the number one streamer in twenty
twenty two on Twitch, making somethinglike ten to twenty million dollars a year,
and by some weird coincidence, youget matched up with me on Twitch
Rivals and we game together for liketwo hours, and you know nothing about
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wrestling, and I know nothing aboutfamous streamers, but now I'm interacting with
a famous streamer, and you're interactingwith a famous pro wrestler to over millions
of views. Maybe that was youxQc. And if it was, there's
two very easy ways to share thatstory with the world. Email a voice
memo to eighty seven command at thirtyfour at gmail dot com. We'll pick
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up the phone dial eighty seven commandat thirty four. That's eight seven two
two two two sixty two thirty four. Eighty seven Command at thirty four is
the number. Give it a calland leave a message after the beat Wrestling
Anonymous, Please hold. I don'tknow if I can actually tell this,
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but I'm gonna um so, yeah. I knew Sandman's parole officer when he
would have to call the Sandman orno, when the Sandman would have to
call him and check in, he'dbe like, hey, it's me the
sand Man, and he was like, no, you have to say like
you have to say your name's Jim. Yeah, you can't just say you're
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the Sandman. You can't use yourfucking ring name with the parole officer,
like he wasn't supposed to leave thestate. And he showed up on Raw
in like Milwaukee or something, andmy dad had to give him a call
and say like, yo, SamMan is not supposed to leave PA,
right, and the officers like yeah, it's like, well you might want
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to turn raw on. Oh that'sso good. A little bit of me
wanted the parole officer like you shouldhave like maybe that was it your call
to call in, But I'm prettysure that the pro officer is not going
to be calling in that story.So by them telling you that story,
I'll allow it to call in.And that's a great story. And you
know what, I believe it onethousand percent. Maybe you could have done
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the accent a little better, like, Yow, it's me the sad Man.
I'm at home, not at rawwrestling to Jerry in an ECW style
match. No, I'm at homethat now the game man. My Philadelphia
accent got worse and worse with timeand time. But that is the sad
Man gravel. Everybody knows it.It's legendary, and so is he.
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I think that's what makes the sameMan great. He relatable. Everybody loved
the same man. He wasn't eatinghis proteins, counting his galleries, hitting
the gym. He was on paroleand ditching it so he could be a
wrestler on TV in his Zoobos pants. A few years ago, I was
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working as a recruiter for the Marineswhile station in Louisville, Kentucky, being
an avid wrestling fan and often checkout some of the newer account at an
OVW show, and we frequent thehalf shows and live events, and w
W came to town. Being military, but live events were free of admission,
and oftentimes we get seats that wereonly a few rows from wainside.
Got board one at work one daystarted to comb through our database and we'd
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have some basic into on any Marineenlisted in the past twenty or thirty years,
and every now and again you'd lookup the celebrity to see how many
pull ups they did, or what'sjob they enlisted for, stuff like that.
I had the bright idea of lookingup one young Randall Organs. Back
in the day, the military usedto identify you by your last name and
the last four of your social securitynumber. Our database had the full social
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security number of everyone that we're beinglisted. One of my coworkers, who
frequently three events, had the wiseidea of making a big sign with orton
and then I'll last four of hissocial security number and x's for the rest
of the number. And we knewit. We definitely garner some attention if
you had noticed it. And sureenough, the viper's making his way to
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the ring and suppots us at ringside. Demeanor shifted to one that was a
bit more agitated than usual, andhe came over to us and asked how
the hell we got that information.We thanked him for his service, do
you think us in kind and suggestedthat it would be best if we forgot
that information immediately. We agreed.I hate that so much, but I
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love that so much as a restas a wrestler. Just knowing that that
you're searching that information, I guessit irks me, but I just take
myself back to before I was wrestler, thinking that I found diamond Dalla's page
on AOL and then aiming him andcalling him by his real name, and
thinking how fun that was at thetime and how excited it got me.
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So I get how excited you were. Now on the other side of it,
I see how cringe it is.But there's one thing about calling a
wrestler by their real name, butthere's another by bringing a sign with their
social Security number on a poster showingeverybody specifically him, so he could be
like, what the fuck and believeme, he was and you know that
because of the conversation and the interaction. Oh my, I mean, I
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shouldn't play this call. I thinkit's horrifying. I also think it's so
funny. A couple of years ago, I was a rookie to WrestleMania Access.
It was my first chance being there, and I wanted to eat as
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many wrestlers as I could. Iquickly learned a little cheek that if you
went to the legends tables, youcould get to the lines a lot faster,
mostly because a lot of the fansthat were there maybe didn't know who
they were. They had been offof TV for a long period of time,
And does nobody really wanted to getinto their line. I jumped into
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a line because it was a signingof Hardy Race. As I was going
through the line, I learned thatat the top of every hour, the
superstars that are on the stage getswitched out for other ones. So I
went from being in a line fromHarley Race to being switched out for Gerald
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Briscoe. I think of myself asa long time wrestling fan. I started
watching wrestling around the WrestleMania four time. I guess you could say, but
I really have no memories of GeraldBriscoe other than him being one of vinciic
Man's stooges. And didn't know whatto stay to him. And when I
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got up to get his autograph,I didn't want to talk about, you
know, him drestling up and wrestlingas a woman on Monday Night. ROLI
feared he'd probably answered that question athousand times, so I said, hey,
let me look in my dubit abtencyclopedia and see if I can find
a fact to ask him about.I learned that he had been a member
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of the tag team with his brother, the Briscoe Brothers of Yesterday. And
as I got his autograph and postfor a picture. I said, Hey,
are we going to have a chanceof meeting your brothers today? And
he politely let me know that hisbrother had passed away a few years before.
I wanted to crawl in a holeand die, no pun intended.
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I also wanted to crawl in ahole. Just hearing you talk about asking
that question, that's, oh mygod, that's so fun for me and
everybody listening, and not for you. But that's exactly what this show is
all about. Not much I couldadd to that. Jack Briscoe no longer
with us. I feel a lotof us know that as wrestling fans,
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but not all of us do,including yourself. I did enjoy that hack
that you gave, that wrestling conventionhack. I don't know if that works
necessarily for other conventions, maybe justaccess, But now that I think of
it, I guess some of thereal obscure legends you could really just walk
up to at a wrestle con ButI also don't think there's any obscure legends
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at ww Access. Like it's allreally famous old WWWWF wrestlers, but just
goes to show you the generation that'swatching wrestling. And maybe he has already
forgotten. The past makes sense.When I was ten and I probably didn't
know who a lot of the wrestlerswere, although I feel I was so
smart I would have, but Iunderstand where they're coming from. So sorry
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you couldn't meet Harley Race, andI'm sorry you couldn't meet Jack Brisco Wrestling
Anonymous, pleasehold for sponsors. Mygranddaughter and I have a thankful wrestling man.
That's that's our that's our thing.Um. We go to as many
shows as we can together. We'vegone to um all different cities and Texas
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or whatever. There's a show herefor a friendship for ad w Um.
My granddaughter is thirteen and she hasreally really become a big fan of Jericho's
band Fozzy over the last couple ofyears when she found out that he had
a band. So when Fozzy Umannounced that we're doing a tour and one
of the shows was in Houston,I got her tickets for her birthday.
So we go to the show.Um, we get there a little bit
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early. I got a VIP pitpasses or whatever. So we're in the
front row with front rower show andshe man, she she loved it.
It was got her face was blownoff with the music. It was so
loud, it was so awesome,And so she's thirteen year old. She's
just rocking it out. After theshow, the drummer comes over to hands
her his drumstick and as we're walkingdown, we see like their tour bus
is park right next to the venue. Little by little, some of the
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band numbers are coming out. Shehad a sticker, a fozzy sticker that
she had gotten. She was gettingeach member of the band to sign the
sticker. So a lady is walkingto the bus my granda and says,
hey, can you get jerk withthe scientist for me? She was sure,
so she grabs the sticker and shewalks off with it, goes onto
the bus. He been there thatcomes back out and if Jeriko had finked
it, And then the lady comesback out, she says, hey,
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have your camera's ready, jeriko'sn't cometake some pictures with y'all. Jeriko comes
out to the door of the bus, takes a couple of pictures. You
know, she gets to meet themand introduce yourself to him, and she
even tells them one of these daysI'm going to become a wrestler. And
he kind of laughs and he goes, he goes, if that's what you
want to do, go make thathappen. He goes, anything that you
want to do, just go makeit happen. We walk back to the
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truck and we're all excited that she'sall hyped up by I'm all hyped up.
We're super excited and stuff. Wecome home. She's going through her
stuff. She has a drumstick,she has, you know, a shorts
that we bought, things like that, and she realizes that she she doesn't
have the sticker. And we're lookingthrough the looking at the truck and stuff,
but that maybe it fell to theside and she doesn't have the sticker.
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And she's like, Grandpa, Ican't find the sticker. And I
said, well what happened? Youknow? She was I don't know.
I think I dropped it. Andshe just heartbroken. So I said,
all right, let's go back,and she says for us, I said,
let's go back. Maybe we'll getlucky and we'll buy some miracle finders.
On the sidewalk drive back into downtown, it's parked, you know,
right we're back. We were parkedto go through the parking lot try to
find it. We don't see that. We walked the sidewalk from where the
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venue is at. We don't seeit. We got to walk back and
forth. This bus is still there, and the security guy that's kind of
sitting outside the bus, he goes, what happened and we tell him,
you know, man, she lostthat sticker that she got signed. The
lady that had told us about theygot the sticker signed for her and told
us, you know, come tothe door that he's gonna come. She
is walking back and she's had thesame name. What happened, and the
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security guard tells her, you know, she lost that sticker that she had,
and so she walks in the bush. The lady comes back out with
another sticker and she goes, hey, we got we got your other one.
This was even better. I'm thesticker again was signed by Everyboden in
the band, and this time Isaid happy birthday. We love you man
my granddaughter. She cheered up.She was so excited. She was apologizing,
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so sorry that that I lost thefirst time. I'm so sorry.
We think that lady so much,and stuff like that was super cool.
Man, Jericho and Fozzy band,you know, to memory my granddaughter and
I will always share well, Ihad to play the feel good one.
What a what a feel good story? I can picture this script from this
story being turned into a movie.I don't know if I picture the grandpa
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and the little girl, maybe maybea rom com, maybe a teenage boy
and a teenage girl and love somehow, but I could picture it. And
Jericho can play himself. You knowhe's gonna want to play a part in
the movie. But even better thatit was his grandpa supporting his child who
loves Fozzy the Band, taking herto the show, and then going the
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extra effort. I love it.Had to play it. I was so
moved by this and the feelings you'remaking me feel feelings out there you.
I worked as an academic counselor atthe University of Illinois Urbanish Champaign and one
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of the groups of students that Iwork with a lot are students who I
identify as LGBT. During one ofmy meetings with a LGBT identifying student,
they were mentioning how they were havinga hard time finding entertainment options that they
thought directly would represent who they wereand how they were within the LGBT community.
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After having a few other conversations withthe student, I thought or I
mentioned that they should check out professionalwrestling. The student was very hesitant head
first, and I explained that whilethere had been some issues historically professional wrestling,
when it comes to LGBT wrestlers,it had gotten a lot better.
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Mentioned names such as Nilo Rose,Sonny Kissie, Ellie catch others and said
check them out. Student came infor an appointment a couple of weeks later
and was just beaming and so excitedto see people within the LGBT community represented
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and not really treated as stereotypes astough performers that happened to be wasn't in
the LGBT community. Since that conversation, I have reached out and talked to
several other students have encouraged them towatch different professional wrestlers and from promotions or
special events. And it's really funand really heartwarming to see these students who
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see themselves as marginalized and a hackedin a lot of ways, finding something
that is very positive and that theycan kind of connect to and be invested
in. So thanks to all ofthe LGBT wrestlers who are out there for
making a huge impact that they'll neverreally understand. Could you imagine this same
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call thirty years ago from this guywith the same job and recommending professional wrestling
as a safe place for people inthe LGBTQ community. It's so nice to
hear that there's been a little bitof a safe turnaround. I still feel
it's got so far to go.But the idea that there could be somebody
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in a group like that who islooking for entertainment and you say professional wrestling,
and I love that this person goeson the internet, clicks in Ffie
and just finds a fucking superhero,because that's what Fie is and should be
a billionaire. I think I'm justone man. I don't have the control
of any company or funds to it, but fee for president of wrestling,
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I'll say that. And just becausethe situations like this, I mean and
Alley and Sonny and Nyla and Bowen'sand you know, everybody, this was
a nice slice of a life call. These things are really happening in life.
There's people at school, there's peoplewith troubles, there's people in communities
who feel like they don't belong somehow, and wrestling somehow saves the day.
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Remember when you found wrestling and itwas the greatest. I'll put yourself in
these people's shoes and feel the joywhen you think there's nothing for you,
and Sonny Kiss is just doing aTikTok dance at you. It suckers,
you write it. Sonny suckered meright in, so I don't blame him.
Wrestling Anonymous, please hold for sponsors. Killa Kawalski used to put on
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show in my hometown in New Englandseemingly like every February. In a nineteen
ninety four I went to one ofthose shows at the local Vocational school,
which was headlined by none other thanRick Martel, the model, and the
guy who would later become Johnny Gunnor sal Sincere. I don't remember his
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real name, but anyway, theywere in the main event. And being
that we were all Rick Martel,Mars the four of us that you went
to the show, we decided,instead of the traditional US Day chant,
that we would chant for Canada,Canada, Canada, over and over again.
And then, while in my throwsof being you know, an excited
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wrestling fan out of nowhere, Isee in the quarter of my eye a
small child, a small child thathauls off and bitch slaps me right in
the face. Time stands still,and I'm pretty sure even Rick Martell and
sal Sincere were staring at me havingjust been bitch slapped by a six year
old for going against America. Well, it doesn't flow as well, does
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it, Canada? Canada. Ithink that's why the USA chant is so
time tested, goes so well,and I'm sure was used so much at
a time like that nineteen ninety fourin a small town promoted by Killer Kowalski.
Now, a lot of people thinkKiller Kowawski larger than life Hall of
Famer, but a lot of thesewrestlers at that time, when they got
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in there later years, they werejust always at these local shows, either
promoting them or signing autographs, orthey had a school. That's exactly what
Killer Kowalski was doing. Now,when you brought up nineteen ninety four Killer
Kowalski show in that area, Iwas thinking to myself, first before you
even said Rick Martel, I betTom Brandy was on the show. And
then you go on to say JohnnyGunn slash Salvator Sincere, Well that's Tom
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Brandy, the True the True Kingof the Independence, F Cold Cabanah,
f Reckless Youth, F Joey Janella. Tom Brandy has been on the Independence
going strong for so long, andof course he was on a show last
week, and of course he wason a show promoted by Killer Kowalski.
This call gave a true independent wrestlingfeel back in the day before the indies
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got hot, where it was justa show with some old WWF wrestlers.
I'm sure King Khalua and some Chanceand little kids wanting to have the best
time. And I'm sure you thoughtyou were the kid trying to have the
best time. But the reality isis it was that six year old and
how dare you? How dare youdisrespect the United States of America. You
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deserve it. I'm glad it's stuckwith you to this day so much that
you're calling into this podcast about it. I went to www show is when
I first started up. During theshow, Sabu put someone through a table
thing of was cwn us and oneof the guys I was with said,
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Hey, I've been the shows herebefore. We can go out back and
maybe get a piece of the table. Me being the side we marked on
it was I decided definitely waiting.So he's out back. Saw saw the
wrestlers leave and waved at him.While we were chilling out, there was
like two vehicles left. Guys likethat truck over there is where they're going
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to take the table. I waslike, how do you know this?
He just knew. Finally guy walksout, you know, bringing out half
the table, and he's like,hey, man, awesome shows, thank
you for having us here and allthat. Can we get a piece of
that table tonight? The dude,dad ass looked at us and said,
oh man, no, getting readytake this table back and build it for
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a homeless shelter. We didn't knowwhat to do or stay at that.
We just stood there at their mouthsopen, like this is a trip.
The guy eventually looked at us.He was like, well, the table's
pretty busted. I'm some of thewoods, so what That's a first for
me. I've never heard that.I guess I love the sentiment that you're
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going to recycle this table for theones who are in need of it,
But I feel that standard practice.You bust a table, you give it
to the fans, the fans haveyou signed a piece that's a professional wrestling
show. Maybe it's different at thew W E c W show, but
I have never heard of that,and I do like how quickly he gave
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in to being like nah, Ithought the unfortunate needed it, But you
know what, I'll give it toyou. You seem to want it more.
Also, I feel you're saying thename Sebu real differently, and I
don't know if it's your accent orjust not knowing how to say it,
but it tickled me and I appreciateit. Years ago, her old a
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age was he used to wrestle fora hot dog. When I think from
hot dogs and wrestlers, I thinkof on Kobyashi out of Japan when he
was in the Awa. He handlerwho was the k Stan Kwalski. I
think he was there in Japan alot, and he spoke the Japanese and
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strong Kobyashi did not speak any English. He understood it, but did not
speak it, or so he claimed. I remember one incident where he loved
hot dogs and they arrived, wegot into the dressing rooms. I was
getting all the stuff ready to sell, and he was talking to the big
k and he wanted two hot dogseverything on it. So the bik went
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out and got him for then musthave been twenty minutes later I see another
jobber going into the dressing room withtwo hot dogs. Out forty five minutes
later, I had to go in. They got something, and he was
there and he pointed to me andpointed to the pictures and handed up with
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two. So and when I gottwo hot dogs with everything on it,
ten came back. He paid mevery handsomely, and for a young kid,
that was great. Probably inside ofan hour and a half or so,
there was a big K going backto the dressing room with two hot
dogs. Now that's eight big hotdogs with everything on it. And if
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you saw Stone Kobayashi, he was, you know about I don't know,
almost six ten or something, threehundred pounds of solid muscle. So it
was humorous to see that he survivedon hot dogs. Very humorous. The
whole claw was very humorous. Iloved your take on it, wrestling Grandpa.
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I also love how comfortable you havenow become wrestling Grandpa, just calling
Killer Kowalski the big K, likewe all know that's his nickname, and
referring to some guy as some jobber. You do know you were the fifteen
year old kid that was selling picturesfor the wrestlers. But I love the
confidence to just call them a jobberand just refer to old big K,
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my buddy big K. It's sofunny. And what's also funny is strong
Kobe Ashi, who is correctly namedfor a man who loves hot dogs.
I had entitled this koby Ashi Loveshot Dogs, and when I was about
to play it, I was like, well, of course he's the hot
dog geting champion, and then whenI listened to it, it's like,
oh no, that's the wrestler.But maybe all koby Ashi's love hot dogs.
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You know what, who couldn't lovea hot dog, especially a Hebrew
National ballpark dog. I'm sure atthe show that wasn't a Hebrew National,
but I like to think that itwas. And I love the visual of
a big, giant Japanese man eatingas many hot dogs as he wants,
not as he can as he wants, because it's his time to shine.
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He's the wrestler, he's the grownup. His mom isn't there, and
if he wants to eat eight toten hot dogs, he can eat eight
to ten hot Dogs. Who's gonnatell him no? The Big K?
I doubt it? Wrestling Anonymous,Please hold for the credits. All right,
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Wrestling Anonymous. Please hold Welcome toWrestling Anonymous, the pro wrestling hotline show
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and I, your host and prowrestler Cold Cabana, curate through them
all, addit them up, producethem up, and put them out as
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media. Tell your friends to callin their crazy story that they've always told
you about. What about you were. You the number one streamer in twenty
twenty two on Twitch, making somethinglike ten to twenty million dollars a year,
and by some weird coincidence, youget matched up with me on Twitch
Rivals and we game together for liketwo hours, and you know nothing about
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wrestling, and I know nothing aboutfamous streamers, but now I'm interacting with
a famous streamer, and you're interactingwith a famous pro wrestler to over millions
of views. Maybe that was youxQc. And if it was, there's
two very easy ways to share thatstory with the world. Email a voice
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Anonymous, Please hold. I don'tknow if I can actually tell this,
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but I'm gonna um so, yeah. I knew Sandman's parole officer when he
would have to call the Sandman orno, when the Sandman would have to
call him and check in, he'dbe like, hey, it's me the
sand Man, and he was like, no, you have to say like
you have to say your name's Jim. Yeah, you can't just say you're
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the Sandman. You can't use yourfucking ring name with the parole officer,
like he wasn't supposed to leave thestate. And he showed up on Raw
in like Milwaukee or something, andmy dad had to give him a call
and say like, yo, SamMan is not supposed to leave PA,
right, and the officers like yeah, it's like, well you might want
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to turn raw on. Oh that'sso good. A little bit of me
wanted the parole officer like you shouldhave like maybe that was it your call
to call in, But I'm prettysure that the pro officer is not going
to be calling in that story.So by them telling you that story,
I'll allow it to call in.And that's a great story. And you
know what, I believe it onethousand percent. Maybe you could have done
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the accent a little better, like, Yow, it's me the sad Man.
I'm at home, not at rawwrestling to Jerry in an ECW style
match. No, I'm at homethat now the game man. My Philadelphia
accent got worse and worse with timeand time. But that is the sad
Man gravel. Everybody knows it.It's legendary, and so is he.
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I think that's what makes the sameMan great. He relatable. Everybody loved
the same man. He wasn't eatinghis proteins, counting his galleries, hitting
the gym. He was on paroleand ditching it so he could be a
wrestler on TV in his Zoobos pants. A few years ago, I was
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working as a recruiter for the Marineswhile station in Louisville, Kentucky, being
an avid wrestling fan and often checkout some of the newer account at an
OVW show, and we frequent thehalf shows and live events, and w
W came to town. Being military, but live events were free of admission,
and oftentimes we get seats that wereonly a few rows from wainside.
Got board one at work one daystarted to comb through our database and we'd
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have some basic into on any Marineenlisted in the past twenty or thirty years,
and every now and again you'd lookup the celebrity to see how many
pull ups they did, or what'sjob they enlisted for, stuff like that.
I had the bright idea of lookingup one young Randall Organs. Back
in the day, the military usedto identify you by your last name and
the last four of your social securitynumber. Our database had the full social
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security number of everyone that we're beinglisted. One of my coworkers, who
frequently three events, had the wiseidea of making a big sign with orton
and then I'll last four of hissocial security number and x's for the rest
of the number. And we knewit. We definitely garner some attention if
you had noticed it. And sureenough, the viper's making his way to
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the ring and suppots us at ringside. Demeanor shifted to one that was a
bit more agitated than usual, andhe came over to us and asked how
the hell we got that information.We thanked him for his service, do
you think us in kind and suggestedthat it would be best if we forgot
that information immediately. We agreed.I hate that so much, but I
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love that so much as a restas a wrestler. Just knowing that that
you're searching that information, I guessit irks me, but I just take
myself back to before I was wrestler, thinking that I found diamond Dalla's page
on AOL and then aiming him andcalling him by his real name, and
thinking how fun that was at thetime and how excited it got me.
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So I get how excited you were. Now on the other side of it,
I see how cringe it is.But there's one thing about calling a
wrestler by their real name, butthere's another by bringing a sign with their
social Security number on a poster showingeverybody specifically him, so he could be
like, what the fuck and believeme, he was and you know that
because of the conversation and the interaction. Oh my, I mean, I
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shouldn't play this call. I thinkit's horrifying. I also think it's so
funny. A couple of years ago, I was a rookie to WrestleMania Access.
It was my first chance being there, and I wanted to eat as
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many wrestlers as I could. Iquickly learned a little cheek that if you
went to the legends tables, youcould get to the lines a lot faster,
mostly because a lot of the fansthat were there maybe didn't know who
they were. They had been offof TV for a long period of time,
And does nobody really wanted to getinto their line. I jumped into
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a line because it was a signingof Hardy Race. As I was going
through the line, I learned thatat the top of every hour, the
superstars that are on the stage getswitched out for other ones. So I
went from being in a line fromHarley Race to being switched out for Gerald
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Briscoe. I think of myself asa long time wrestling fan. I started
watching wrestling around the WrestleMania four time. I guess you could say, but
I really have no memories of GeraldBriscoe other than him being one of vinciic
Man's stooges. And didn't know whatto stay to him. And when I
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got up to get his autograph,I didn't want to talk about, you
know, him drestling up and wrestlingas a woman on Monday Night. ROLI
feared he'd probably answered that question athousand times, so I said, hey,
let me look in my dubit abtencyclopedia and see if I can find
a fact to ask him about.I learned that he had been a member
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of the tag team with his brother, the Briscoe Brothers of Yesterday. And
as I got his autograph and postfor a picture. I said, Hey,
are we going to have a chanceof meeting your brothers today? And
he politely let me know that hisbrother had passed away a few years before.
I wanted to crawl in a holeand die, no pun intended.
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I also wanted to crawl in ahole. Just hearing you talk about asking
that question, that's, oh mygod, that's so fun for me and
everybody listening, and not for you. But that's exactly what this show is
all about. Not much I couldadd to that. Jack Briscoe no longer
with us. I feel a lotof us know that as wrestling fans,
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but not all of us do,including yourself. I did enjoy that hack
that you gave, that wrestling conventionhack. I don't know if that works
necessarily for other conventions, maybe justaccess, But now that I think of
it, I guess some of thereal obscure legends you could really just walk
up to at a wrestle con ButI also don't think there's any obscure legends
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at ww Access. Like it's allreally famous old WWWWF wrestlers, but just
goes to show you the generation that'swatching wrestling. And maybe he has already
forgotten. The past makes sense.When I was ten and I probably didn't
know who a lot of the wrestlerswere, although I feel I was so
smart I would have, but Iunderstand where they're coming from. So sorry
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you couldn't meet Harley Race, andI'm sorry you couldn't meet Jack Brisco Wrestling
Anonymous, pleasehold for sponsors. Mygranddaughter and I have a thankful wrestling man.
That's that's our that's our thing.Um. We go to as many
shows as we can together. We'vegone to um all different cities and Texas
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or whatever. There's a show herefor a friendship for ad w Um.
My granddaughter is thirteen and she hasreally really become a big fan of Jericho's
band Fozzy over the last couple ofyears when she found out that he had
a band. So when Fozzy Umannounced that we're doing a tour and one
of the shows was in Houston,I got her tickets for her birthday.
So we go to the show.Um, we get there a little bit
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early. I got a VIP pitpasses or whatever. So we're in the
front row with front rower show andshe man, she she loved it.
It was got her face was blownoff with the music. It was so
loud, it was so awesome,And so she's thirteen year old. She's
just rocking it out. After theshow, the drummer comes over to hands
her his drumstick and as we're walkingdown, we see like their tour bus
is park right next to the venue. Little by little, some of the
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band numbers are coming out. Shehad a sticker, a fozzy sticker that
she had gotten. She was gettingeach member of the band to sign the
sticker. So a lady is walkingto the bus my granda and says,
hey, can you get jerk withthe scientist for me? She was sure,
so she grabs the sticker and shewalks off with it, goes onto
the bus. He been there thatcomes back out and if Jeriko had finked
it, And then the lady comesback out, she says, hey,
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have your camera's ready, jeriko'sn't cometake some pictures with y'all. Jeriko comes
out to the door of the bus, takes a couple of pictures. You
know, she gets to meet themand introduce yourself to him, and she
even tells them one of these daysI'm going to become a wrestler. And
he kind of laughs and he goes, he goes, if that's what you
want to do, go make thathappen. He goes, anything that you
want to do, just go makeit happen. We walk back to the
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truck and we're all excited that she'sall hyped up by I'm all hyped up.
We're super excited and stuff. Wecome home. She's going through her
stuff. She has a drumstick,she has, you know, a shorts
that we bought, things like that, and she realizes that she she doesn't
have the sticker. And we're lookingthrough the looking at the truck and stuff,
but that maybe it fell to theside and she doesn't have the sticker.
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And she's like, Grandpa, Ican't find the sticker. And I
said, well what happened? Youknow? She was I don't know.
I think I dropped it. Andshe just heartbroken. So I said,
all right, let's go back,and she says for us, I said,
let's go back. Maybe we'll getlucky and we'll buy some miracle finders.
On the sidewalk drive back into downtown, it's parked, you know,
right we're back. We were parkedto go through the parking lot try to
find it. We don't see that. We walked the sidewalk from where the
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venue is at. We don't seeit. We got to walk back and
forth. This bus is still there, and the security guy that's kind of
sitting outside the bus, he goes, what happened and we tell him,
you know, man, she lostthat sticker that she got signed. The
lady that had told us about theygot the sticker signed for her and told
us, you know, come tothe door that he's gonna come. She
is walking back and she's had thesame name. What happened, and the
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security guard tells her, you know, she lost that sticker that she had,
and so she walks in the bush. The lady comes back out with
another sticker and she goes, hey, we got we got your other one.
This was even better. I'm thesticker again was signed by Everyboden in
the band, and this time Isaid happy birthday. We love you man
my granddaughter. She cheered up.She was so excited. She was apologizing,
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so sorry that that I lost thefirst time. I'm so sorry.
We think that lady so much,and stuff like that was super cool.
Man, Jericho and Fozzy band,you know, to memory my granddaughter and
I will always share well, Ihad to play the feel good one.
What a what a feel good story? I can picture this script from this
story being turned into a movie.I don't know if I picture the grandpa
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and the little girl, maybe maybea rom com, maybe a teenage boy
and a teenage girl and love somehow, but I could picture it. And
Jericho can play himself. You knowhe's gonna want to play a part in
the movie. But even better thatit was his grandpa supporting his child who
loves Fozzy the Band, taking herto the show, and then going the
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extra effort. I love it.Had to play it. I was so
moved by this and the feelings you'remaking me feel feelings out there you.
I worked as an academic counselor atthe University of Illinois Urbanish Champaign and one
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of the groups of students that Iwork with a lot are students who I
identify as LGBT. During one ofmy meetings with a LGBT identifying student,
they were mentioning how they were havinga hard time finding entertainment options that they
thought directly would represent who they wereand how they were within the LGBT community.
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After having a few other conversations withthe student, I thought or I
mentioned that they should check out professionalwrestling. The student was very hesitant head
first, and I explained that whilethere had been some issues historically professional wrestling,
when it comes to LGBT wrestlers,it had gotten a lot better.
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Mentioned names such as Nilo Rose,Sonny Kissie, Ellie catch others and said
check them out. Student came infor an appointment a couple of weeks later
and was just beaming and so excitedto see people within the LGBT community represented
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and not really treated as stereotypes astough performers that happened to be wasn't in
the LGBT community. Since that conversation, I have reached out and talked to
several other students have encouraged them towatch different professional wrestlers and from promotions or
special events. And it's really funand really heartwarming to see these students who
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see themselves as marginalized and a hackedin a lot of ways, finding something
that is very positive and that theycan kind of connect to and be invested
in. So thanks to all ofthe LGBT wrestlers who are out there for
making a huge impact that they'll neverreally understand. Could you imagine this same
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call thirty years ago from this guywith the same job and recommending professional wrestling
as a safe place for people inthe LGBTQ community. It's so nice to
hear that there's been a little bitof a safe turnaround. I still feel
it's got so far to go.But the idea that there could be somebody
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in a group like that who islooking for entertainment and you say professional wrestling,
and I love that this person goeson the internet, clicks in Ffie
and just finds a fucking superhero,because that's what Fie is and should be
a billionaire. I think I'm justone man. I don't have the control
of any company or funds to it, but fee for president of wrestling,
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I'll say that. And just becausethe situations like this, I mean and
Alley and Sonny and Nyla and Bowen'sand you know, everybody, this was
a nice slice of a life call. These things are really happening in life.
There's people at school, there's peoplewith troubles, there's people in communities
who feel like they don't belong somehow, and wrestling somehow saves the day.
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Remember when you found wrestling and itwas the greatest. I'll put yourself in
these people's shoes and feel the joywhen you think there's nothing for you,
and Sonny Kiss is just doing aTikTok dance at you. It suckers,
you write it. Sonny suckered meright in, so I don't blame him.
Wrestling Anonymous, please hold for sponsors. Killa Kawalski used to put on
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show in my hometown in New Englandseemingly like every February. In a nineteen
ninety four I went to one ofthose shows at the local Vocational school,
which was headlined by none other thanRick Martel, the model, and the
guy who would later become Johnny Gunnor sal Sincere. I don't remember his
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real name, but anyway, theywere in the main event. And being
that we were all Rick Martel,Mars the four of us that you went
to the show, we decided,instead of the traditional US Day chant,
that we would chant for Canada,Canada, Canada, over and over again.
And then, while in my throwsof being you know, an excited
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wrestling fan out of nowhere, Isee in the quarter of my eye a
small child, a small child thathauls off and bitch slaps me right in
the face. Time stands still,and I'm pretty sure even Rick Martell and
sal Sincere were staring at me havingjust been bitch slapped by a six year
old for going against America. Well, it doesn't flow as well, does
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it, Canada? Canada. Ithink that's why the USA chant is so
time tested, goes so well,and I'm sure was used so much at
a time like that nineteen ninety fourin a small town promoted by Killer Kowalski.
Now, a lot of people thinkKiller Kowawski larger than life Hall of
Famer, but a lot of thesewrestlers at that time, when they got
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in there later years, they werejust always at these local shows, either
promoting them or signing autographs, orthey had a school. That's exactly what
Killer Kowalski was doing. Now,when you brought up nineteen ninety four Killer
Kowalski show in that area, Iwas thinking to myself, first before you
even said Rick Martel, I betTom Brandy was on the show. And
then you go on to say JohnnyGunn slash Salvator Sincere, Well that's Tom
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Brandy, the True the True Kingof the Independence, F Cold Cabanah,
f Reckless Youth, F Joey Janella. Tom Brandy has been on the Independence
going strong for so long, andof course he was on a show last
week, and of course he wason a show promoted by Killer Kowalski.
This call gave a true independent wrestlingfeel back in the day before the indies
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got hot, where it was justa show with some old WWF wrestlers.
I'm sure King Khalua and some Chanceand little kids wanting to have the best
time. And I'm sure you thoughtyou were the kid trying to have the
best time. But the reality isis it was that six year old and
how dare you? How dare youdisrespect the United States of America. You
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deserve it. I'm glad it's stuckwith you to this day so much that
you're calling into this podcast about it. I went to www show is when
I first started up. During theshow, Sabu put someone through a table
thing of was cwn us and oneof the guys I was with said,
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Hey, I've been the shows herebefore. We can go out back and
maybe get a piece of the table. Me being the side we marked on
it was I decided definitely waiting.So he's out back. Saw saw the
wrestlers leave and waved at him.While we were chilling out, there was
like two vehicles left. Guys likethat truck over there is where they're going
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to take the table. I waslike, how do you know this?
He just knew. Finally guy walksout, you know, bringing out half
the table, and he's like,hey, man, awesome shows, thank
you for having us here and allthat. Can we get a piece of
that table tonight? The dude,dad ass looked at us and said,
oh man, no, getting readytake this table back and build it for
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a homeless shelter. We didn't knowwhat to do or stay at that.
We just stood there at their mouthsopen, like this is a trip.
The guy eventually looked at us.He was like, well, the table's
pretty busted. I'm some of thewoods, so what That's a first for
me. I've never heard that.I guess I love the sentiment that you're
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going to recycle this table for theones who are in need of it,
But I feel that standard practice.You bust a table, you give it
to the fans, the fans haveyou signed a piece that's a professional wrestling
show. Maybe it's different at thew W E c W show, but
I have never heard of that,and I do like how quickly he gave
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in to being like nah, Ithought the unfortunate needed it, But you
know what, I'll give it toyou. You seem to want it more.
Also, I feel you're saying thename Sebu real differently, and I
don't know if it's your accent orjust not knowing how to say it,
but it tickled me and I appreciateit. Years ago, her old a
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age was he used to wrestle fora hot dog. When I think from
hot dogs and wrestlers, I thinkof on Kobyashi out of Japan when he
was in the Awa. He handlerwho was the k Stan Kwalski. I
think he was there in Japan alot, and he spoke the Japanese and
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strong Kobyashi did not speak any English. He understood it, but did not
speak it, or so he claimed. I remember one incident where he loved
hot dogs and they arrived, wegot into the dressing rooms. I was
getting all the stuff ready to sell, and he was talking to the big
k and he wanted two hot dogseverything on it. So the bik went
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out and got him for then musthave been twenty minutes later I see another
jobber going into the dressing room withtwo hot dogs. Out forty five minutes
later, I had to go in. They got something, and he was
there and he pointed to me andpointed to the pictures and handed up with
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two. So and when I gottwo hot dogs with everything on it,
ten came back. He paid mevery handsomely, and for a young kid,
that was great. Probably inside ofan hour and a half or so,
there was a big K going backto the dressing room with two hot
dogs. Now that's eight big hotdogs with everything on it. And if
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you saw Stone Kobayashi, he was, you know about I don't know,
almost six ten or something, threehundred pounds of solid muscle. So it
was humorous to see that he survivedon hot dogs. Very humorous. The
whole claw was very humorous. Iloved your take on it, wrestling Grandpa.
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I also love how comfortable you havenow become wrestling Grandpa, just calling
Killer Kowalski the big K, likewe all know that's his nickname, and
referring to some guy as some jobber. You do know you were the fifteen
year old kid that was selling picturesfor the wrestlers. But I love the
confidence to just call them a jobberand just refer to old big K,
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my buddy big K. It's sofunny. And what's also funny is strong
Kobe Ashi, who is correctly namedfor a man who loves hot dogs.
I had entitled this koby Ashi Loveshot Dogs, and when I was about
to play it, I was like, well, of course he's the hot
dog geting champion, and then whenI listened to it, it's like,
oh no, that's the wrestler.But maybe all koby Ashi's love hot dogs.
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You know what, who couldn't lovea hot dog, especially a Hebrew
National ballpark dog. I'm sure atthe show that wasn't a Hebrew National,
but I like to think that itwas. And I love the visual of
a big, giant Japanese man eatingas many hot dogs as he wants,
not as he can as he wants, because it's his time to shine.
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He's the wrestler, he's the grownup. His mom isn't there, and
if he wants to eat eight toten hot dogs, he can eat eight
to ten hot Dogs. Who's gonnatell him no? The Big K?
I doubt it? Wrestling Anonymous,Please hold for the credits. All right,
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