"GoldyLockS Unleashed: From Ring Ropes to Rock Notes"

🎸 Experience the raw, uncensored journey of TNA Wrestling's original knockout turned rock star as Goldy LockS reveals the triumphs and trials behind her dual careers. Through emotional confessions and behind-the-scenes stories, witness the real struggle of a woman fighting to make it in both the male-dominated worlds of wrestling and rock music. From the early days of TNA at the Asylum to touring with her band, discover how one performer broke boundaries while breaking musical barriers. What really happened during TNA's formative years? How did the wrestling industry's politics affect her music career? From championship matches to platinum records, experience the untold story of wrestling's most versatile entertainer. Warning: Contains explicit language and mature themes about industry hardships. Experience this powerful shoot interview in premium audio quality on Spreaker, or listen via Amazon Music, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and iHeart Radio. Tell Alexa to "Play GoldyLockS Unleashed on Spreaker" and hear the melody behind the mayhem.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Horrible things hit the fan.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I ended up losing my record deal, I lost my
publishing deal, and I got fired from TNA, all within
the same week.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
And the IRS came after me for.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
An audit and said, you owe like one hundred and
twenty thousand dollars and I didn't and I didn't do
anything wrong, but because I couldn't prove it, because I
left LA, because my ex burned all my documents and
receipts and everything that I had. He just threw threw
it away or burned it, you know whatever. Not to
be vindictive, but like, here's a bunch of documents. I
better get rid of these forever. And when I needed

(00:31):
to reconstruct all my early TNA days of flying here
and there, and the clothes that I wore that I
wrote off and the tanning and the nails, I couldn't
and I ended up going bankrupt.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Sean, I lost everything.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Today on the show, we are joining with Singers, Songwriter
and TNA original, the one, the only Goldilocks. I was
Hella excited to talk to her, and man, what a
talk we had. This is an absolute epic chat, as
Goldie totally dives in and tells us exactly what happened

(01:09):
after her time at TNA Wrestling, and holy shit, you're
about to hear such a riveting story of how it
seems like she just got kind of like this big
ego check from the universe hit absolute rock bottom, but
also took that time to gain some perspective outside the glitz,
outside the glamour, being in a position where she was

(01:31):
barely surviving, starving, but through her own tenacity, her own
internal strength, she turned herself around. And yeah, I uh
just want to dedicate this interview to anybody who's going
through the ringer going through a rough time. I know
these segments attract a lot of artists themselves. And yeah,
things aren't always as smooth as you want them to be.

(01:52):
And nothing lasts forever, and Goldie pun intended, drops some
absolute gold of how she picked herself back up off
the ground. Also around this very introspective talk about life,
I just want to let you know Goldie has recently
been releasing some brand new music, including a single titled
I Didn't Know, featuring a familiar name if you're a

(02:14):
wrestling fan, the one and only legend Mickey James. And
she tells us the story of how that came to
be working with Mickey a country rap group called The Locks,
her brand new band, and we give you a little
preview of that track in the middle of this interview.
And Yeah, I'm so excited to share this with you guys.
It's so early in the year, just a couple months in,

(02:37):
but I gotta say, this is one of my favorite
talks of the year. And we're actually gonna jump right
into this kind of mid convo as I hit the
record button when we connected on this zoom call or
just free flowing. Prior to what you hear, I was
just kind of saying how I personally feel like Goldie
doesn't get much flowers for being a pioneer as a

(03:00):
backstage commentator in the early two thousands. That time you
turn on the we we saw the Michael Coles, the
Kevin Kellys pretty much for the females. Every once in
a while you get a Lilyan Garcia, but most of
the time she was like in the ring doing the announcing.
But Goldie was that chick of the OGTNA mike in hand,

(03:24):
and I feel like she planned in some early seeds
that kind of paved the way for a lot of
other people's careers. So yeah, let's get right into it.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
You know, I was just at ninety four point three
the Shark and keep saying the rock damn me that
the Shark in New York and Orlando in the morning
said something so similar, and I was like, wow, how
kind he said.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
He said something no one else has ever said.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Also, like yourself, he said Goldilocks was kind of a
bad guy. Oh yeah, I like, like I didn't even
really know, dude, what a what a heel was, but
I was.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
But that was just very natural.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, so we should talk about that on the show,
Like it was very natural.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Like I got a lot of heat because I was
just being real when you were not supposed to be real,
Like I didn't know what the hell was going on,
and I thought a lot of stuff was really sus
and like I.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Let you know that it was sus like you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
But I guess you were supposed to act or no
what you know what, there was no supposed to act
in the past. People had just acted like they were
just tits on a stick. And I've got great tits.
Good for me, most women, do you know? Yeah, I mean,
it's their two sacks just hanging there. I didn't do
much to you know, accumulate that it is what it is.
But I wanted to bring I don't think I even

(04:44):
wanted to bring anything. I just wanted to just do
what I thought came naturally, and that's what I did.
And nobody told me no, or nobody told me a
just or change or pivot. So I so I just
went with it. And what do you want me to
call you on this interview?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Oh, you can just call me Sean.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Sean. Okay, how do you spall it? S a s
got it? That's Sean. Yes, But I really appreciate you
saying that.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I look back now and if anybody has any heat
with me, you know, I think I did a kind
of a cool I did a cool job just telling
stories of other people's stuff in a different way and
in a way that didn't like necessarily condescend a woman
or me, Like it wasn't like making us look weaker pathetic.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
So anyway, I appreciate you saying that that's really cool. Sean.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I'm because I'm so excited to do this interview. This
is a pre tape, right.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yes, it is. It is, and I got it recording
right now. I might take a little cut of that too,
if that's what you if you did, yeah, because that
was amazing. I'm like, we're rolling right now.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I didn't even know that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I'm honored to be a part of the first I
was there since day one, Like I was one of
the first people that they cast, and I'm just very
blessed to have that experience because they're just a now,
Like what we're doing with Mickey James, I believe that
twenty two years later, like twenty three years later, that's insane, insane.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah. Yeah, And one thing, I'm like, I'm obviously going
to ask you a ton of wrestling questions because I'm
such a freaking geek to that. But it's cool, Like
I think even back in the day, I heard about
you making music, but I never really really like dove
into your stuff and like to kind of see what
you're doing right now. You got a couple singles out

(06:24):
right now, but I also, oh, there's one, but then
I went on your Spotify and there's a second song.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
All right, bro listen, there's eight hundred songs. I had
a record deal. Some s business went down, everything got pulled.
There was eight hundred songs out there. It was doing well.
I was doing well. Everything got pulled was okay, clean slate.
So we put out just Say Yes, that's more pop.
That band ceased, and now my new lineup, the new cast,

(06:50):
same drummer for the last fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
We have a new guitarist. He's more rock.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
So now you're gonna have all of this stuff coming
out of the floodgates because we've got like twelve new
songs just sitting there ready with videos accompanying to come out,
to come out Just say Yes, great song, super pop.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
But all of our stuff is going to lean really
really rock now. So now the new one I didn't
know with Mickey James, nice cool, candy hotty video, really pretty.
And then the one that's coming out after this has
filmed in an insane asylum in Nashville, Tennessee that's haunted.
So it's going to just be like, yeah, I'm like
rolling around on the ground in water that they flooded

(07:25):
the old hospital and there's dirt and grime and mold
and yeah, well I shouldn't say that about their place,
but it's in an area where we probably shouldn't have
been filming, so it's gonna just be super rock. So
and what you said about I didn't.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Know you did the music.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
That's the whole reason I got into wrestling was because
my music entertainment lawyer knew the Jarretts and that's how
that all started, and said, you should give this girl
a shot. She's fresh, she's new, she's not the same
old thing that you're You know it did. There just
was a standard and what's funny? It's not funny, ha,
it's that funny like that the standard that everybody's pushing
for now, I'm never pushing for anything. I don't think

(07:58):
that I should have to push for I don't think
that I should say I should get paid more and
I should be this, and don't look at me like,
go do your freaking job, a great do a great job.
Somebody said to me yesterday, Taylor Swift's first manager. I
was having coffee with yesterday, Rick Barker, fantastic guy, and
he said, I bet you people treated you like, Yeah,

(08:18):
they freaking did treat me like a queen. Don't come
back to me and say, what do you have to
say about the me Too movement?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
What do you. Well, I really don't have anything.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
To say about it, because everybody treated me like really
really well, every freaking wrestler, worker, anybody, even people in
the office, with exception of one person in an office
I didn't nothing to do with wrestling. Everybody treated me
with super Scott Timore like all these guys and Johnny
Devine and Eric Young and all your Canadian brett the
Brett Herts of the world. Everybody treated me like I

(08:49):
was an equal. There wasn't even an equal, Like there's
just a human being and I'm your buddy. So I
have very very very very fond memories of starting out
and just being treated so well.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
But you know what, command your respect for all these chicks.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Doing interviews and in the locker room and whatever. Just
go in there like you are a human being talking
to other human beings. Don't have some agenda. Don't wave
your bra in the air and burn it and.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Talk about that.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
The more you talk about something negative, the more you're
gonna attract that energy. Anyway, Just go in there and
kick ass. Go in there and do a freaking great job.
And if you're not getting paid enough, then then get
yourself a great lawyer. Like I had and get in
there and get in the mix, like there's always a
way to do things and not, I don't know, just
not be a shithead.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Don't be a shithead. That's my message for today's show. Sean.
Tell me the name of your show again, because it's
not right in front of me.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Oh, it's called the creative Imbalance.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Imbalance, that's what was the creative And then I was like,
what's the last word imbalance? Okay, well, don't be a
creative imbalance, don't be a shithead. Your there's your liner.
You're listening to Sean on the creative imbalance. Don't be imbalanced,
don't be a mental head, and don't be a shithead.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
There you go much?

Speaker 3 (10:02):
You love Goldie? Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Oh no, it's cool too, especially like I love doing
these interviews. I find like I don't often do the
wrestling ones. Recently I did do one with like Chris Jericho,
but I noticed, yeah it was it was went awesome.
But I notice about a lot of like the wrestling
online media on YouTube and Twitter, it is so click

(10:28):
bait to almost like what we were talking about, the negativity.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's actually like fucking gross and like to a point,
I'm not even gonna say this person's name because I
don't want to promote them.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
But I'm like, was recently like scaring for this, like
clicking around and if somebody had some negative things to
say about you. But what's funny is what.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Do they have to say about me?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I want to hear they basically said, she came in,
she didn't know the business. Bah blah blah blah blah.
He might like a big mustache.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
But that's not oh I know, Oh that's hysterical. So yeah,
we can just promote Dutch mantel because that's the funniest
thing that I've ever heard Dutch. Like. I had nothing
but great things to say about Dutch. I thought he
did an amazing job. I thought he had a lot
of wisdom and experience to share with the company.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
And then that clip of him keeping my name alive
thanks Dutch, just trashing me to the all hills.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well, of course I didn't have what I didn't have.
I had a record deal with Prince. You brought me
in because I had some marquee value at the time.
No different than bringing in uh oh what was his name?
From Survivor Johnny Fairplay, he's been on my podcast. He's
been really cool to me. You know, Like you brought
in Johnny Fairplay. He doesn't have any wrestling experience. You
bring in Hermie Sadler from NASCAR. He didn't have any

(11:50):
wrestling experience.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
You brought him in.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
You brought in Toby Keith and Jeff Jarrett smashed his
guitar right right out of the gate at the pay
per view, Like you bring in all these people. You
brought me in for something different. Like if you have
a problem, Dutch with how I do things or I
don't do things, then do what Eric Watts did to me,
Do what Elix Skipper did to me.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Do what.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh my god, here is a freakin' nugget for you.
Jimmy Hart came up to me, the most precious soul ever,
This mother truck and badass.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
This guy must have a big dick and get.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Laid all the time because he knows how to talk
to a woman.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Oh, Jimmy Hart, Oh that's amazing or.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Whatever he's into. I don't know. Jimmy, don't care whatever
way the wind blows.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
You got a big dick and you're a great lover
and I'm gonna tell you why you've heard it first
at the Creative Mouths. I've never told the story before.
I had different hairstyles, I had different things that I
was doing. I had extensions, I had weavens. I had
a natural weave in one time and they cut the
bangs real short. And in his defense, I did look
like some sort of butchered poodle or something. And you know,

(13:00):
he said to me very nicely backstage we were in Orlando.
He said, you know, when you wear your hair like
this one way that I saw, boy Goldie, Not that
you don't look beautiful, but that was a really great
look for wrestling. I think, blah blah blah, fill in
the blank, and you should try that again. Like people

(13:23):
popped hard for that. You look really good. He didn't
say you.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Look like a bag of shit now. He didn't say
you look like an.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Old bitch girl. He just made a very kind the
way he said it. I was like, oh, okay, and
the light bulb when I look back at that stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
And he was one thousand percent right.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
But his kindness, his delivery, his execution, Dutch, go have
a big cock like that. And if you had a
problem with me, come up and just say, like Eric Watts,
did you.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Know, no, no, no, listen listen.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
He'd always say, listen da And it never make me
feel badly about something. But be a great teacher and
a great coach an advisor and say here is something
you should do or try, and this is why give
it a shot. And if you don't like it, whatever,
but at least you tried, Like I will always remember
Jimmy Hart with his kind loving what's the word criticism?

(14:19):
What's that word that? Constructive criticism, constructive criticism giving me
on my look?

Speaker 1 (14:25):
And I take that to the bank these days. And
I think me and.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Heidi Klum look hotter than we did when we were
twenty thirty years ago or whatever, like wine.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Well, I think we look better now that we know how.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
To do our eyebrows and pull some things here and
there and snatch it there and make up and contoary.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think you learn more. You should anyway.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
And I think when I look at pictures of her
or runway, she looked good, nice, full rejuvenated face. And
maybe she's lost a little volume over theres, but damn
she looks hot.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't go that way, but if I did Heidi,
how are you doing? She's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
She's beautiful. So there's my Jimmy Hart's story. There's I've
never told anyplace else.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Oh yeah, thanks for sharing that. And yeah, something I
wanted to mention to even like when I heard that
little blurb from him of negativity, I didn't take it
as negative. I'm like, here is this young girl giving
a new opportunity, stepping out of her comfort zone and
just diving in there and going for it. And I

(15:23):
find like a lot of like just younger creatives listen
to these segments too, And I think if they listened
to like maybe an older VET like talking that way too,
they would interpret it the same way as well too.
Where I don't know, it's just must have been like
such a cool time, especially you saying you were coming
from music music, all the music world, and what kind

(15:45):
of beyond like kind of having like a relationship with
like the Jarretts and stuff like that. What made you
really want to like dive into this world that's totally
different in kind of a circus in a way.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
You know, I'd always followed wrestling. I've been in TV
since I was three. I've done all the movies and
films and child modeling, acting, commercials all that. People always say, like,
you know what movies and I never quite say because
nothing was sus but like some of the acting was
bad news because I was young, and it's like, I
don't need to relive that. But I've been in some

(16:18):
movies with some incredibly talented, famous, famous, just really really
amazing people, and they took me under their wing and
really showed me things. So when I had to be
really honest, I was in the middle of a record
deal that was very toxic. And I will raise my
hand and say, I'm sure as some young dipshit chick

(16:41):
that I contributed heavily to that there's always two three
sides to the story. But I felt like it was
very toxic and abusive in many ways, and abusive on
my end. And I sean, I was in Hollywood and
I wanted to ticket out of I wanted to ticket
out of Hell.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I wanted to get out of there.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
And I saw maybe if I could get in them
with this promotion, and I was filming every week, twice
a week, and it's the Nashville surrounding area, and maybe
I could just get out of this horrible you're young people.
Younger people listening to this, like look for your ticket.
The ticket might be a different evil, which it was,
but at least it's a transition out of something you know,

(17:20):
and don't look for something bad. I'm not saying, because
there's plenty of wink wink opportunities to do things that
are a transition that I'm not advocating.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
As a matter.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's such a may I can't talk about that because
there's so many people that I know that do all
that stuff. But a lot of the stuff that young
girls think are a way to make money these days
might look really shiny and new and in a nice package.
But please listen to me, like not from experience personally,
but from living in Hollywood and seeing a lot of
these girls that went down that road, Like it just

(17:50):
doesn't always.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
It never ends well like you can think.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Now, but it's gonna mess with you, no different than
somebody going to war or somebody seeing battle or whatnot.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
And then you come home and there's like trauma.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
There's going to be trauma from that and all these
people with these sites.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's like you're not going to understand until you're older.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Like the stuff that you did, like I know the
girls that did all that stuff before it was really
popular to do and it really does kind of bite
them in the behind.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
And anyway, we won't get in all that.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
But all I'm saying is, look for your transition, look
for your ticket out of something. And TNA was my ticket,
and it was and then horrible things hit the fan.
I ended up losing my record deal, I lost my
publishing deal, and I got fired from TNA, all within
the same week. And the IRS came after me for
an audit and said, you owe like one hundred and

(18:40):
twenty thousand dollars and I didn't and I didn't do
anything wrong, but because I couldn't prove it because I
left LA, because my ex burned all my documents and
receipts and everything that I had. You just threw threw
it away or burned it, you know whatever. Not to
be vindictive, but like, here's a bunch of documents. I
better get rid of these forever, and what I needed
to reconstruct all my early TNA days of flying here

(19:02):
and there, and the clothes that I wore that I
wrote off, and the tanning and the nails I couldn't
and I ended up going bankrupt Sean, I lost everything,
So I lost my house, my car. I lived in
some crappy one room efficiency that wasn't suitable for it
was bad news.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I did the best I could.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
I made it nice, but I couldn't work because I
was going bankrupts. I couldn't have a bank account, I
couldn't have a charge account, I couldn't have a car.
I couldn't have anything. And it's such a crazy story
of what happened in a nutshell. The thirty second version
is there was a prostitute that lived in this complex
with me who befriended me. She was mean, she was nasty,

(19:41):
and one day she just turned her switch and let
me use this crappy old nineteen eighty two Mazda Miata
that had two windows that wouldn't roll up and a
break that was permanently down that you had to bungee
cord the break.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Up to the back of the head rest with a so.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Exactly, and then you would dangerous push down beyond, and
then the windows were permanently down. The doors didn't open.
You had a duke'sa hazard get in kicking in. But
you know what, I started to clean houses. I called
myself Kate the Cleaner. I put up things everywhere, and
the craziest story was being some people didn't treat me.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
So well in the richer neighborhoods.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Crazy enough, but I remember one day one lady wasn't
treating me very well and I was on my hands
and knees mopping up her slop, literally watching her grandson
or somebody watching TNA, like a rerun of TNA. As
I'm on the screen on my It was like I
wasn't Goldenlocks that day. It was so Cinderella and I

(20:43):
was just like where am I and what's going? But
you know what, again, to anybody listening, young or old,
you have to put that desire and that prayer and
ask God to get me out of here. And he did,
and things are a lot different than two thousand and
eight when that all happened. It was horri It was
absolutely horrible, but it was the most amazing life changing

(21:04):
thing that could have ever happened.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Because I was in Beverly Hills, I thought I was
better than everyone else. I had an attitude. I was arrogant.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I tell this to Mickey James all the time, like
I wasn't that nice to a lot of the girls
back then. Some I was, some of them I wasn't.
Some of them I was a total bitch. I should
have been nicer. I thought I was better because I
didn't come up in the wrestling business. I had this
and I had that I was better there. I'm not
better than anybody else, But it takes you years of
getting knocked down and you're ass kicked to form that humility.

(21:36):
And so therefore God knew exactly what he was doing
when that all happened. He was like, listen, bitch, it's
your time to like have a reality check. Get your
face down, flat on your face. You hit ground ground zero,
ground bottom, and the only way that, the only place
I had to go was up shan and I did,
and like I said, it's the best thing that ever

(21:57):
happened to me.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, I'm so happy, like you're doing well. Like when
you started that story, my heart sank a bit because
there's that this time gap where I knew you from
TNA and then it just kind of you weren't on
my TV anymore and I didn't know all that happened
to you. But listening to the full story and just
your perspective right now. It seems like I don't know,

(22:20):
like the universe just hit you all at once and
was like, we're gonna give her this perspective, as shitty
and hard as it is, I feel like I don't know,
Like I look in at your background now right now,
see all like the records, and every time do check
this out.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
You can't see this, but watch this. Do you see?
All those up there are all the.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Records that I've done, all those on that metal shelf
right there, and then those little those patches in the
middle right there, Those are all from being in Afghanistan
and Iraq and going and being able to entertain all
those badass troops hang out and you know what, The
performances were great in all those places, but it was

(23:04):
afterwards hanging out with all of them and just listening
because every day that we were there, the flag was
half masked. Every day somebody got killed, and every day
I had a chance to sit with a group of
soldiers and just talk some shit. And seriously, that was
the greatest gift of all of us being over there,
was just to get a chance to and you know what,

(23:24):
I still talk to all of those We started going
in twenty eleven, and I still have a relationship with
so many of those beautiful men and women. Again, this
is after the whole bankruptcy thing. And you know what,
I got fired because it's well known fact. I said
it that Abyss got me fired for running his mouth, Chris,
and you know he did get me fired and lost

(23:47):
my job and talked a bunch of shit that wasn't
true and said I was going to sue the company.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
And all I said was I'm.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Opening for nickelback and puddle of mud and three dollars down.
And I would not like to take a black hole
slam off the top row on the concrete, and I
probably might die because I don't have a lot of
wrestling experience. I've got some Chris Hennick trade me trained
me a little bit, but I have a degenerative disc disease.
Like anybody's going to be maimed for life. Could we

(24:12):
just take a softer bump? That got translated into Goldie's
going to sue the company if anything goes wrong. And
I remember that day in Orlando. I remember when everybody
was doing the green screen, like turn to green screen,
cross your arms, nud you're watching, And I was like
I couldn't wait to do mine. I was waiting, waiting
in the shadows Sean, and I was the last one standing.

(24:33):
I felt like the last kid getting picked for Dodgeball.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
And I was just waiting and I just.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Saw David Sahati, the producer, like out of the corner
of my eye, I saw am go like that somebody,
and I was like and I and I panicked and
I thought, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
And I just remember I went up to James Storm
and he's like, oh, Goldie. He's like, yeah, the word
is as you're done.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I'm like, what, oh shit, that's how you fell out?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
What?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, he said, that's the word. And I just went
right over to Jeff Jarrett. I said, Jeff, am I fired.
And he said, well, you know, Goldren, you are a liability.
And I wait a minute, Like I could have sued
your company like years ago for all kinds of stuff
that happened that Jerry Jarrett wrote about his book Another Story,
but like some bad stuff went down, and I look
the other way because it would have tanked the promotion,

(25:24):
Like I had my chance to sue you, and I didn't, like,
I would never do anything to hurt this company.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
He's like, well, as you see, and he like.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Pointed to the six sided ring and all the stuff
that was happening. He's like, we're rolling now and one
bad move could just and I said, but I won't.
He said if you were me and you were a
business person, and he said, you know what, Goldie, the
door will always be open for you, but but not now.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
And now you know.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
And then I went back to my hotel in Nashville,
and literally like two days later, the IRS was calling
and I'm like, what this has to.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Be a joke.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Wait a minute, you want me to pay you one
hundred and twenty thousand dollars, Like is this a joke?
And I went down to the IRS and they're like,
it's not a joke, and I'm like but but And
there was all this stuff. They were sending correspondents to
an address that didn't even exist, and I'm like, but
I have an address that's not even a real address
or like basically your sol I'm like, so, because the
government doesn't know how to find me and send me

(26:22):
stuff that I needed to reply to, you're gonna just
and that was it.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
It all hit the it all hit the fan, and
I'm telling you think about it.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Anybody that's listening to this right now, You lose your house,
you lose your car, gets taken away, you can't have
a bank account, you can't work for over.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Five hundred and ninety nine dollars.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
You can't do anything that's going to get you paid
over that, because then you'll have to be ten ninety
nine as an independent or you'll have money come in
and they'll just take it all.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
So it's just like a lose lose lose cart.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, and you know what, don't with me now, Sean,
because don't with me now, because I've lived for three
dollars a day. When you when you go bankrupt, they
make you take this class where you have to learn
how to just survive for nothing and figure out a
place to live for nothing and figure out transfer to
and now.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Don't walk with me. Oh nothing you can do? What
are you can do to me?

Speaker 2 (27:17):
You can take everything away from me and like, okay,
I've already had that done right next, you know, so,
and live a healthy lifestyle like I live a very
very very very healthy lifestyle because I don't want to
look fate in the eye and do anything that I can.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I'm going to do everything I can to be preventative.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
And that's another message that I'm always like preaching to people,
like if you're doing something where it says right on
the box you're probably gonna get cancer and die, that
might not be the best habit, thank you.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, hell yeah. But wow, oh my god, Like, what
a story in standing ovation for you building yourself again.
I know people who've gone through horrible shit like that
where they just lost everything and have not recovered. But
you definitely have like the mentality where you're like going
to put it together and just keep only.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
The only reason that I recovered is because I had
a lot of people. Just like I said, some prostitute
came to my aid. And when I was living in
Beverly Hills, in bel Air, in Century City, in the
Century Towers, that's the last person that I would have
thought is going to be my friend. That is Jesus Christ, God, Almighty,
whatever you believe in showing you you want to learn

(28:26):
how this all works with loving your neighbor and whatnot,
I'm going to show you. You're going to have literally
a mean, nasty prostitute have her kid show up at
your door, knock on it with some shitty old tin
with some reused, recycled aluminum foil on the top and
some food to give you because she thought you were hungry.
And guess what I was. She's the one that gave

(28:48):
me her dukes of hazard car that was all rained
out in the back, smashed in windows, way way back
in that apartment complex, sitting there rotten on blocks, said
if you can get just get some tires on this,
go ahead and take it and go do your cleaning jobs,
you know. And then the craziest thing is those mean
smoking apartment ladies, the ones that look like they're fifty

(29:10):
years older than they are.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
They're always like looking at you, Like those ladies at
the apartment. We all know the apartment lady, and she
was just looking at me.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
And I'll never forget judging, yes, that lady with the
fried out hair, and she looks like some dann mom,
And I'll never forget. Like I got knock on the
door and they're like, we want to see you in
the office, and I was like, oh shit, I'm gonna
get thrown out of this place, like this is rock bottom.
I don't have any place else to go there, And
I remember going into the apartment's leasing office and all

(29:44):
of the people standing their blank face with their arms
crossed looking at me, and I was like, don't cry,
don't cry.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Where are you gonna go? No, nobody knew I went bankrupt.
Nobody knew. They just thought I disappeared for all.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Even my family thought I was doing well Sean, and
I felt my soul leave my body because I thought,
what am I gonna do now?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
And I'll never forget it.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
She was smoking in the building and she goes, yeah,
I just want to let you know you're the winner
of one year free rent.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh my god. What She's like, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, the contest was when you enter at least two
weeks early with your rent, you get in a draw.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Dude, I was two weeks late. I was, and I
was like, she's like, yeah, sign the paperwork.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
We're gonna upgrade you into a two bedroom and you
get rent free for a year.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
And I was like, wow, what, Oh my god. I
waited till that night.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I waited till that night, and when I saw her
dinking the lights off and get into her car, and
I was like, hey, wait, wait, She's like meet me
at Starbucks at the mall, now, and I was like, okay, okay,
got into my Duke's a hazard car and I sat
there and I met her and she's.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Like, don't say anything.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I'm like, what the happened? Like I didn't win any contest.
She's like, girl, this is what I did. I wrote
down your name on a piece of paper. I licked
my hand and I licked.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
It real good.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I put it your name on that piece of typer, girl,
and I stuck it down in that fish bowl.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Look at his spit around. I have a folm, honest.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
And I pulled it out and I said, Goldilocks is
the winner. And I was like, why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
You hate me? And she said, girl, I don't hate you.
I admire you.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I see you driving in that Duke's a hazard red
piece of ship with your broom hanging out the back window.
And I said, I got to help that girl because
she helped me. And I'm like, what are you talking about?
You're you're you hate me?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
And she said, I see you whistling going to work,
whistling a tune. I know who you are, and I.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Know you lost all your ships, like I felt like
losing my ship about a month ago, I'm blowing my
brains out with my ex.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Is such a bublah blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
But I didn't because I figured if that wrestling is
superstark and knew it, I can do it. So I
thought to myself, I'm gonna lock my hand, I'm gonna
look it good, and I'm gonna make her the winner.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
And that was it.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
This one out of nowhere made me the winner. The
money that I saved on the rent, they let me
have Goldie's shit hole below the leasing office. It was
flooded with an inch of moldy contaminated water. This room,
if I can siphon it all up, paint it, demold it.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's my photography studio, Goldies Hole.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
All the national celebrities Royalty shot in Goldies Hole.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
They took their best shot in Goldies Hole. I built
up my.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Thefactory photography dot com business. The money I saved every month,
didn't have to buy a studio. I bought a little
piece of gear, a lot of low a piece of gear.
The naturals were coming in thea America's most wanted Chris Harris,
James Storm. All these people started coming. Not only was
it a photography studio. But I made gimmicks, I mean,
and then there's another guy, Chris that doesn't too. But

(32:43):
I made a lot of the wrestling for WWE, for TNA,
for whomever.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I made all in this Goldies hole, all because of
this lady.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
So I'm just saying, you hit rock bottom, you lose
it all. But then the universe, God, angels, Buddha, allah,
whatever you believe in, they will show you, like watch me,
watch me show you how this.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Is gonna work. So you can bet I don't. I
don't judge.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
The only thing with the only fans that I was
talking about earlier is I just want to make sure
that people are good. And I'm not like, oh, you're
just jealous that you're not making the money. No, I
could make a ton of money with only fans. I
still look pretty good naked. I could, I could reel
it in, but that's just not the road that I'm
going down. And I just always want to make sure
people know, like sometimes if things look like really shiny
and glistening and good, now there's stuff down the pike

(33:33):
that might bite you in the ass. Because you're talking
to somebody who's experienced a lot, so you know, what.
No matter what you are going through, work stuff, relationship stuff,
I know people get really down. I know mental health awareness,
I know suicide prevention.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
We do a lot with that.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Like I'm a sane person who thinks bad, terrible thoughts
sometimes like would it just be easier if I wasn't here?
Would it be less stressful? Would it be less of
a burden on my friends or my family?

Speaker 1 (33:59):
If if?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
But you know what, you have this beautiful gift of life, Sean,
and there's people out there that are quadrip allegiance or
they're blind and they're deaf, and they're out doing like
amazing things and killing seem online. It's like, you better
shut the up and be so grateful that you have
a shot when there's so many people that would give

(34:20):
anything to be in your position. So the pity party
with the goldilocks lasts aboutzero point three seconds, and then
I kick myself on the ass and say, you've got
no right to be feeling like that. Get with the program.
So whatever crap that you're going through. I just always
tell people, especially the younger people, just wait until tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Just give it till tomorrow. Tomorrow's a new day. Tomorrow's
a new day.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, well said, well said, And yeah, I've had my
struggles too, and like lots of people don't see them
on social media. I tend to post the highlights, you know,
and everything, and I'm sure like a lot of people
like who kind of put theirselves out there are like that.
But oh my god, like people who are listening to
the audio version of this might yah was dropping during
your story and what a story of like just the

(35:08):
ultimate perspective. And I just love hearing how that lady
what she did for you too, because.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Can you believe that?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
But what a foundation to restart and rebuild, not worrying
about rent because I couldn't imagine, like during that time
of you just grinding going out in the Duke's of
hazard car, like like you said, only making a couple
bucks an hour. There's moments where you probably felt like
I'm hopeless and I can't think out of this hole.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, I wanted to die, and yeah, and nobody knew.
Nobody knew.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
I didn't want anybody to know, because, like I said,
I came from Beverly Hills, and I came from this
fricking ten thousand dollars a month penthouse and all these
cars and all this, And the moral of the story
is I did say to my partner at the time,
could we just get a less expensive place? Could we
get less expensive cars? And he's like, no, this is
what you have to have this image and then the
other parts what you said, This lady did this for me.

(36:00):
I got the free rent for a year. I did
all of this stuff. But then what do you do
just cat in the background, What do you do with that?
Do you go party? Do you just go smoke it
up and drink every night and go out or I'm
not judging you.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'm just saying if you do get.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
That opportunity from somebody and that blessing milk the living
shit out of it.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I still operated like I.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Did in my class, where you can only spend three
dollars a day. I still had relationships with some of
the hotels where I just would wear a nice dress
and sneak in for their continental breakfast and get out.
Sometimes I'd leave a dollar tip or something. I didn't
have a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
The other thing was is you know what, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
On TLC's calling the cheap skates right now, it seems
like it's funny and it's gross, guys. But there's a
reason that it's on the show is because I wrote
it in. Because I did that. I did dig out
of dumpsters, and you know what, it's not even that
gross at all. Especially if you go into the gas
station and say, I know you have to clear out
those glass case pastries every day because you got to

(37:03):
make room for the fresh stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Would you mind, I'm going through a hard time.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Would you mind, just when you empty the trash here,
I'm giving you a newspaper, keep it behind the counter.
Would you just lay the newspaper down on the trash,
and then when you dump the pastries and the food,
put it on top of that so it's clean and
not contaminated. And I swear to God, I'll come as
soon as you're gone, and you won't get into any
trouble at all. And then I've got my plastic containers

(37:30):
I got at the dollar store. Sometimes it was two
for a dollar, and I would stock up on anything
that I possibly could. The airlines they'd throw away all
this expired snacks. They throw it away and you find it,
and there's Starbucks. You should see what they throw away
every night. You should see what everybody if you know
where to find those places, or if you make friends

(37:51):
with the people at the supermarkets and just say I'm
down on my luck, I'm going through bankruptcy, I can't
work right now, or if I work, they're going to
take it all, so I have to work for cash
and I'm low on You will find I had one
super flame and gay hot guy at the Kroger who
would be like, whatever I would buy, he'd go, all right,
we're checking this out. Everybody scan one two three free,

(38:13):
scan one two three free, every third.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
You would always.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Scan, you know, trying to hook you up was totally.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Like just which is stealing And I'm not advocating for that,
but I was hungry. And you will find these people
that will just robin hood for you. But if you
ask them, then there's stuff that's tossed out. If you
ask people, ask ask for help, even if it's humiliating.
But then don't just ask for help and just expect

(38:40):
that you can sit back with your tootz is up
on a coffee table and demanding a glass of you know,
Chardonnay or whatever, like.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
The show your appreciation in way well out.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
And hustle, but keep hustling and then the money that
you save, whatever your dream is, whatever your business is.
There's so many hustles online, Sean God, you could pick
anything you want. You could pick any I see hustles
every day. There's channels dedicated tosciles. Whether you're you're buying
a stump grinder and you go and go into people's
yards and grind ten stumps in a day and make

(39:10):
this much money, or people are repainting on like the
parking lines and somebody's driveway or parking lot.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
They buy a little machine.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
And you know there's vending machines at laundry mat whatever.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Some people around here they're like thrifting clothes, like getting
like the cheapest stuff from like a salvation army, and
they're fucking like just adding their own little on it
and done charging triple for.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
You know, you have no excuse or reason to have
a pity party or not make money with YouTube and
social media, and you don't even you need a phone,
you don't even need a place to live anymore.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
There's such grind and hustle that you can be.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
And you know, if you want to sell your feet,
picks and all that, do your thing like whatever, there's
just so many opportunities out there.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, yeah, I can't stop using the word perspective. But
just like, listen to you talk about, like, I guess,
these last twenty years of your life, it seems like
you lived multiple lives from again, the Beverly Hills, the
being starving, like you know, it's just I feel like

(40:15):
your journey is like one of the most interesting things
I've heard on the show in a long long time.
And I just want to thank you for just being
like so open about it, because you mentioned too, like
when you were like with your boyfriend and like saying, oh,
like I want to downgrade or whatever in him saying like, oh,
we can't do this because of the image or whatever.

(40:36):
And it just kind of makes me wonder, like how
many other people who were in the spotlight may have
gone through like similar things as you, but not ever
say it, you know, or like be open.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
So I didn't really love him. I'm sure he knew that.
That's why we broke up. I always wanted to live
next to him, but I never wanted to live with him.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
I just was weird, probably because I was always.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Cheating on him, probably because no I just was never
but we were so entwined financially. I wasn't always cheating
on him. He was a very abusive guy, mentally unstable,
and I wasn't happy and I saw comfort where I could.
But it wasn't like a shit ton of guys. It
was like a couple of guys during like a seven
year relationship that I was like, this guy is really.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Really mean to me.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
And then that's where the transition of like wrestling, I
got to get away from this guy. He's just verbally
mentally the stuff that he would make me say things
out loud about it would make me sit there and
repeat mantras about how horrible I was. Oh dude, it
was mentally you know what. But he had mental problems.
Like I'm not mad at him for that, there's nothing

(41:41):
to even forgive. Like he was mentally on ten different
medications and self medicating and he would be on well
bututrin and this and that and an upward and downer
and then he'd change his own medication.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
So he was nuts. I think he was schizophrenic.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Like, I don't blame him, but he would say, we're
not going to do this for you today unless you
talk about how you do this, and I'm goal and
I self sabotage myself. I'm Goldie and I do and
it was just like right out of a horror movie.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Again, I'm not mad.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
At him, but I wanted out of there. So yeah,
if I could find some guy to like, stay at
his house that night and not be anywhere around this guy,
but I always live next to him. His his place
was twenty thousand. This is back in like two thousand.
His place in two thousand. His place was twenty thousand
dollars a month. Sean twenty thousand.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Dollars rent that.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Like a mansion. It was.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
It was one of those top penthouses. And mine was
ten thousand dollars, So you're looking at thirty thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
A month for just living like your space.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Then he had a studio I think it was ten
thousand dollars in Hollywood, So now forty thousand dollars a
month just for that, and this is two thousand, okay.
Then the car that I drove the lease on, it
was twenty and two thousand, two thousand dollars a month
for the lease. And then I was in nine oh
two one Oho, the one of the most expensive zip

(43:01):
codes for insurance. It was fifteen hundred dollars a month
for my insurance, not his for all of his cars.
So I am spending like twenty thousand dollars a month
just in stuff that could have been a studio apartment
and a nice reasonable car.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
I used car that was nice.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
And pretty, black, murdered out windows like like what I
drive now. I drive a two thousand and eight camera.
That's it, tinted windows, leather, black leather, interior, runs knock
on wood beautifully. It doesn't have a bunch of chips
and big brother things that track me.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I just love this car.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I can pop the hood, I can change the fan
belt myself, or the alternator belt, or I can get
in there and I can do the breaks, I can
do the oil.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
I can do it. Like I bought a nice car.
It runs, it's great.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Not then it was just top of the line, every
every everything, and it's like, I don't even know that
that many people like in La it's really crowded, and
when you park at a recording studio, it's all tandem
and the guy is moving things and you're just squeezing
in every little inch.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
I don't think anybody would have noticed what car I had.
Maybe my boyfriend they would have.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
But at the end of the day, it's like a
fat person going to the gym. At the end of
the day, it's like a fat person going to the gym.
And when an obest person goes to the gym, when
they finally get the balls to go in there, they
are looking everywhere, thinking, everybody's judging me, and everybody can
see me, and what business do I have being here?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
And I'm so overweight? And you know what, sean, nobody's
looking at them. They're looking at themselves, and they're lifting
up their shirt and looking at their ebbs and they're flexing,
and it's all about them.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
That person could have been eight hundred pounds in there,
and nobody is going to see them, because nobody sees
anybody these days.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
It's noise.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Everybody's got a channel, everybody's got a brand, everybody's got
a podcast.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
I can say that because I've got one too.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Everybody's got shit, you know what I mean. It's very loud,
so nobody would have noticed the corners that we were cutting,
or just being normal people and letting our music or
the acting or the stuff shine and not the freaking
Mercedeses and the range Rovers and the Escalades and all
this dumb shit.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Nobody I don't think, but I.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Look back and I think, Wow, what if I would
have lived for two K a month reasonably and then
saved eighteen thousand dollars or I don't know, I bought
this thing called a bitcoin?

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Can you may? Yeah? And it was just like you
were worried about keeping up all this about like the
the image and image.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
It's if you were investing that money.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
So when you do get opportunities like the Tanning lady,
take that opportunity, but then pretend like you don't have
the opportunity and invest and then save and get those
fired keep it going.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, Oh wow, what a fucking journey, Goldie. I'm floored
by this.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
The music, Yes, I know.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Right now you're hearing a clip of one of Goldie's
new singles I didn't know, featuring Mickey James and also
featuring a country a group called The Locks. It's my
first time hearing the Locks, and it's cool sound. It
kind of gives me that classic new metal feel. And
we're gonna let it rock for a few seconds before
we jump back into this interview and she tells us

(46:13):
how all this came to be.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
I'm waiting in the hall way ways.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
No, but this is cool and also yeah, to go
full circle, like we dove deep into the wrestling and
like the ups and downs everything in between. But I
think it's so cool with this latest single. It still
has that wrestling connection with Mickey James on the track
of course. And also before I listened to a second

(46:55):
of the song, I assumed it was gonna be like
kind of a country song. I know, her gimmick hardcore contry.
Even the pr said Nashville artist Goldilocks. So I'm like
already like having this pretense, but I click on it.
In this fucking rocks like heavy drunes, heavy like distorted
riffs and kind of like more in like the vein

(47:16):
of stuff I kind of like in tune with. And
it has this cool like prog rock vibe that I
didn't expect to And I just kind of want to know,
like about you kind of going in that direction and
like maybe the inspiration to get Mickey and make this track.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
We have the greatest new guitarists we've ever had, Like
the best guy we've ever had is just really prolific
at writing all we do, Like we'll be on the
road all day tomorrow for like twelve hours. He will
bring his guitar and just sit there and come up
with riffs over and over and over, and it's too
many to even keep. It's just it's not even human.

(47:52):
So we've got it's so freakin's and he's a shredder.
And like, I'm going to ask you right now publicly,
if we could all come on your show in a
month or two, when our new single, which is just treading,
is out, it's called Talking to Myself. I would just
be so cool if we could get them on to
talk about music a little bit. Oh my god, if

(48:13):
you would allow me and them to come, I would
definitely definitely give them some limelight. I would really appreciate that.
But he had this really gonna get this really cool riff,
and all I could do is go, Ah didn't know,
And I was like, oh, it's kind of lame, But
Ah didn't know, And I was like, Okay, well, what
the fuck don't you know?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Like you know?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
And then I was like, oh, well what if it was? Okay,
I didn't know, I didn't know, Okay, it's a song
about cheating. Okay, been done millions of times, but I
was like, okay, what hasn't been I don't know what
hasn't been done? Mickey James with a different perspective singing
about how she didn't know and we're sharing the same
douchebag and I just like, I had it in my head.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
And then once it's in my head and I was like,
I need to meet with you. I need to meet
with you. She lives twenty minutes for me. I didn't
ever really realize that isn't that cool?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, And I was like, we're gonna meet, We're gonna meet.
And then I just, dude, I just I just I
was like, you're doing it.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
You're doing it. We have to do it.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
We have to do it because it's gonna help her
get on more music stuff. People see more music for her,
and it's a win win. And then I met her
at this bad ass coffee shop that's what it's called
Bass Coffee Shop, and I was like, you're gonna do this.
You're gonna do it. It's gonna be really cool. Here's
the idea. You're gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
That's it. You're gonna do it, and she goes, Okay,
I'm gonna do it. Can listen to the song.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
I was like, she's like, well, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Like yeah, that's a real friend right there, just yeah, yeah,
you can do it.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Then we went out there and I gave her this
like shitty lyric sheet with this like terrible movie poster
mock up of like her from like twenty years ago
and wrestling, and me like, oh, let's like look more
like stepbrother's poster with like two chicks.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
I was like, you're gonna do this. It's gonna be
really And then I was like, we got to get
a feature. We got to get a feature.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
So I reached out to a couple of my friends
and they were just like whatever and they blew me off,
and I'm like, all right, let's so here's a lesson learned.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Not everybody's gonna say yes.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
But I went back to a record label that I
shoot photos for Average Shows.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Went back to my.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Friend Shannon Hutchins from he owns Average Shows, and I'm like,
you gotta get me the lax. They're not on the
label anymore, but you know them, I've shot their photos.
He pushed for it, and he got them and they
were and then they're like, yeah, we'll write something.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I'm like when when you get it to me?

Speaker 2 (50:15):
And then all of a sudden I got this email
like hey we did this, and I was like and
like it's like two.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Good old boys singing about some cheating. It's like they're
the narrator.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Like basically the Lax were like if Earl burl ives
or whatever, the guy that's sang and Frosty the Snowman
and Rudolph remember that, Yeah, yeah the Snowman.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
He was like shit, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's just kind
of explaining the situation around the story type of thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
So that's basically what the Lax are.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
These two good old boys and they're coming in and
they're talking about this guy who's married with kids and
he's on plenty of fishes and he's scooping around and
and he's creeping, and they just are the perfect They're
wrapped there.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
And then the we had.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Josh Shreeve did the the video that he was the DP,
and we had this beautiful lighting guy, jareded Jarvis, and
it's like it's so fretty, it's so pretty, Like that
video is just and she's so gorgeous. And then our
drummer made a rain machine out of PVC pipe with
his son and sprinklers, and everybody.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Was like, no, it's not gonna work. It's not gonna
look real.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Like it's gonna look real and it's gonna work, and
you're doing it. And so I got this like text
message from Rod. It's shitty, like all compressed, you know,
but it's like it's him and his kid in his
backyard like drenched as this thing is like making it rain.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Literally, it looks like a storm day type of thing.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
It looks bad ass.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
And everybody said it won't work, you can't do it.
And I'm like, what you just told me. You just
told me that it's not gonna work and that we
can't do it. All right, let's make this work.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
And it's a.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Similar to me like that when somebody says that. It's
like now I'm doing it for sure and better than
I even imagined it.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
It's not fuck you.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
It's like a positive type of spie. You know, you're
like it is.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
But it's competition, you know, it's like a backhanded competition.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
You watched the video for yourself.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
If you're listening to this and you wouldn't mind going
to YouTube it says I didn't know Mickey James Goldie
with y Goldilocks band. Leave a comment, just say that
you're listening to this beautiful show with Sean the Creative Imbalance, Yeah,
the creative you got it.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Where did that name come from?

Speaker 3 (52:32):
It came? I feel like it's changed a lot over
the years. It came something like eight years ago when
I was kind of at my lowest and I was
still pushing towards wanting to do this media shit, and
it didn't seem like, I guess, from like an outside perspective,
something feasible, Like I was working all these other jobs

(52:55):
outside of it. I didn't go to school for this.
I just hung out with like a lot of artists
who didn't have their stories told. And I felt like
almost me being unapologetically like an artist at soul was
causing other chaoses in my life of I don't know,
just not being able to fit in, like I don't know,

(53:17):
like just the way society wants you to work, you know,
like just you're supposed to go to school, get a job,
get married, find a job, or like just die after that,
you know, and I never wanted to live that way.
And yeah, just years of like just kind of digging

(53:37):
into that that my soul or whatever and like has
brought like beautiful blessings, but at the time it was
like a burden. So that's where I think originally it
came from. But I feel like over time, like the
meaning changes different things. I think it's almost like a
few years ago, I thought, oh, maybe the creative imbalance

(53:58):
is like almost a diagnosed since you give somebody, because
I'm just talking to people who are all in on
their creativity of all different levels, from film, music, comedy,
all over the place, and like, I don't know, I
just feel like every year it means something else but
doesn't really have like a cool'e. And I almost like forget,
like it's cool that you asked me that question too,

(54:18):
because it was hard for me to even explain it.
I'm like, where did this come from? Again? And I
was trying to dig back into that time in my mindset,
but uh, yeah, I feel like there isn't like a
direct answer. It was also like an unconscious thing. And
I thought of the logo first before the name where
the logo is a light bulb, but it's like broken,

(54:39):
so it's almost like an idea that's like gone like
too far, or a damaged idea. And I got it
tattooed on me as well.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Wait wait, wait, let me see it. It's almost like
the devil Horns.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Yeah, yeah, that too.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
I'm a metal dude, but dude, that's really wait let
me see it again.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
That's really cool.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Yeah. And one of my guests on my show they
do stick and pull tattoos, and they ended up doing
that too, so there's a connection to that as well.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
And wow.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Yeah, so yeah, thanks for asking me that question. That's
something I haven't thought about in a while. Like it
almost like hit me where I'm like, where did this
all come from? You know, I've just been kind of
like on the flow of this train and just it
just keeps going, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
And what your listeners may not know, because I don't
know if that part that we were talking about before
the airs is we probably don't talk about it enough Sean,
is that Sean is the recipient of one of the
Canadian Podcasts Awards. Like that's a really big deal and honor,
Like that's awesome. You gotta really be doing something right

(55:42):
to get that like why.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
It's amazing and like I'm not gonna lie, Goldie, this
isn't the biggest show ever, but I find indus three
people are kind of seeing my hard work and they're like,
what the fuck is this guy doing? It's like, how
does this tiny show is getting like all these big
guests like I had, like the Chris Jeric and people
who are like in the New Sonic movie and like
all this shit. But it's all just like just having

(56:06):
this tenacity and just focusing on the interview, trying to
make a quality segment. And again, you asking me that
question was cool because I really don't make it about myself.
So I'm like each episode, I want to celebrate who
my guest is. It's like this is when you come here,
this is your show. Is today's the Goldie Show? You know?
But that was so yeah, thank you. And it's almost

(56:29):
like I had trouble answering it. You know, it's like
not my I don't know, like.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
You weren't ready for it today.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Yeah yeah, but I loved it. Even though I wasn't ready,
I loved it. You know.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I met with Taylor Swift's first manager yesterday. Yeah, it's
really really really interesting things I learned from him. And
he said, the people have this and the this, but
I can't remember what it was.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
I wrote it down.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
There's a head and there's a tail, and then the
middle the marketing and this when the middle was message,
like what is your message? And I thought, I don't
think tomorrow, when we're on that long drive, we'll take
a break from some riffs, Johnny, and what is our
message as a band?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Like what's our message?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Like what do we if we had to sum up
our elevator pitch of what our messages?

Speaker 4 (57:15):
You know?

Speaker 1 (57:15):
And I've been thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
So when we get off of here, that's your homework, bro,
is what is your message? And then you know, stick
it in and I'll tell you off the air what
you can do with that. But come up with some
scenarios of like why is your podcast different? Why is
your show different? What makes what sets you apart? And
what's special about it? And how in three sentences or less,

(57:39):
tell that story that you just did about the light
bulb and you know where you were when you created
Like that's really interesting, Like put that real transparent thing
down in a paragraph so that people that are going
to your show, can see exactly what you're all about
from just what we talked about today, and when we're
off the air, I'll tell you more. So we don't

(58:00):
four people when I'm always fucking school and everybody and
everything because I.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Know a lot of shit. I know a lot of shit.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Yeah yeah, off the air, I'm gonna give you a
couple of nuggets because you're a good guy, great interview, like,
you're positive, good spirit, You're not a douche like I
appreciate that you can get some douchers you're not.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Well, they're looking for the clickbait and.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
There's a clicka in there. I gave you a to oh.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Yeah yeah, but it's not going to be like I'm
going to be like could you imagine what Goldie said
about it? Like, I'm not digging for that is there.
It's entertaining. I'm not gonna lie and everything.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
But you use whatever you want, use whatever you want
to get them to click because nothing that I everything
that I said always spins positively.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
And if you have to use.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
A negative clickbait to get people to hook them, then
do it much less.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, just this was something in my
mind too recently, I found just kind of with the
growth of what I'm doing, and I also feel like
this can translate to music and like whatever you're doing.
But before I do an episode, as of like the
last two years, I go into even before I write

(59:08):
down all the questions, I go in with an intention,
and I've my intention towards talking to you today was
I clicked around and I saw the negative shit on
YouTube too, and I'm like, I didn't want to be
like that. I want this to be a celebration of
somebody who's a pioneer in pro wrestling and is killing

(59:31):
it in music right now, and like that's I feel
like the questions come after when you have that solid
intention and you were like kind of like talking about
like that car ride with your band member, It's like, oh,
what is our message and stuff? And like I find
like maybe if you can find like what your intention
is too, like the message will come easier. You know.

(59:53):
It's like, why are we doing this type of thing?
Does that make any sense? Or am I just like rambling.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
No, no, a total sense? And I pre I'll take that
to the bank.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Amazing goldie and yes, so let's plug some shit before
we go and everything. Like you said, like you got
another single coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
And we've got another one coming out that we filmed
at the Harriman, Tennessee Harreman Haunted Hospital and the entire
Harreman staff and crew and team members are in it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
I don't even need to be in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
This video because they steal the show that's going to
be coming out at the end of March. And I'm
just so excited because it's called Talking to Myself and
it's just mental.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
It is so awesome. It's so over the top.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
The riffs are amazing, the drums are amazing, the writing's amazing.
The costumes I made, I made all the costumes from crap.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
I think I spent one hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
That would have been like sixty eight grand to buy
all of these epic costumes. But one of the outfits
that I'm wearing is inspired by the Fifth Element movie
when you're just wearing that bandage type outfit. So you know,
I found some crappy swimsuit gauze like cover up for
a larger woman. So it was like, you know, a

(01:01:05):
triple X, so lots of fabric there. That's why I
preface it like that. I always go for the larger
sizes because if it's five bucks at the goodwill or
through at store, then it's more fabric. So I go
for the I go to the XXL right off the
bat and see what's hanging there. It's a gorgeous swimsuit
cover up. It's all dirty and nasty, perfect. That's exactly

(01:01:26):
what I need. Rip that up, cut it up, made
it into this really cool outfit. The other one was
like seven thousand dollars kind of bondage type thing as well,
with all these cables and cords and islets, and it was.
It blew my mind trying to make it because I
kept screwing it up and have to get it all threaded,
and then I'd realize one of the things was off

(01:01:47):
and I OCD, I can't have that, and then pulling
out yards and feet of all this cord and then
do it again. Then oh my god, I missed a spot.
So very neurotic, very OCD. But it's beautiful. It's beautifully shot.
I cannot wait for you to see it, to hear it.
And like I said, if there's any way that you
can squeeze the rest of my band on to just
completely talk about like music or getting along with people

(01:02:12):
in closed quarters for exceeding liam long amounts of time
like that that should be a reality show, not the
Voice and some people being completely coached and polished and whatever.
Like I want to see a show about how people
don't kill other people on the road, Like that's what
I would want to watch, because it's because people fart
and stink and they're gross and they're tired, and we still.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Get along and write great songs.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
And I've got got wonderful guys, Like I freaking love
these guys. They're deserving and they're great, and I want
everything in life great to happen for them because they're
they're good and that they're of the light. And when
people are of the light, Sean, I just go to
bat and same with Mickey, Like we're plugging this rain
and Rip show. We want to find as many fairs, festivals, outlets,

(01:03:03):
corporate parties, whatever that we can do this ninety minute
show where we do some of the entrance music that
you know and love.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
I've written a ton. You don't even realize I've written
a lot, but I've written a lot. So we'll play a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Little bit of that and then we'll just play like
the banger covers that everybody knows and loves and can
sing along to and just have a big, huge party.
We need places that can afford us, because Mickey's got
a hefty price tag on her appearance fee. But we
need some places that have a built in right, a
built in crowd that can afford us. So if you're listening,
or Sean, if you know of anybody that works out

(01:03:36):
of this or that, or that's on this committee or whatever,
we need some spots to come play and do this
show because it's a really badass show. And you'll hear
songs like hardcore country, and you'll hear America's Wanted their
entrance music sometimes, and you'll hear some of the music
that I wrote for like Trinity or all these people,
Elix and Eric and all these guys, like we're still

(01:03:59):
friends because we were so intertwined, just like your tattoo
and your guests and him doing the tattoo, and like
things just start to intertwine, and it's intentional, like that's
it's been written.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
It's like predestined.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
So we need some places to play this damn show
that can afford to have some people traveling from out
of town, so we got to figure that out. New
single coming out talking to myself. Please follow on Instagram
or Twitter. It's at Goldy Goldielocks Rocks. It's all Goldilocks,
Goldilocks band, Goldie with why please just show us a
little bit of love. But if you do, when you do,

(01:04:31):
make sure that you mentioned the Creative and Balance and
Sean as well. So that's a nice tight intertwined cross promotion.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Please and thank you. There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Hell yeah, you are amazing Goldie and uh yeah, definitely
as you're releasing these new things, we're definitely going to
share links to all that. We're going to share the
new video with you and Mickey. So sweet and yeah,
I am excited to have you guys on again as
a band. You're welcome back anytime and so sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Hen Yeah, I can't you enough how much I enjoyed
this conversation and hearing your journey and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
You have a wonderful day, and thank you to everybody,
and thank you to everybody who is watching or listening
the Creative Balance with your host Sean and me the
guest Goldilocks. Damn, that was.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
A great talk.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Thank you so much for your time, Goldie, thank you
for being so open. Like I mentioned in the intro,
we're only a couple months into this year, and I
feel like this was one of my favorite talks I've
had of twenty twenty five so far. And beyond the interview,
we had a little chat after this recording, and I
feel like I made a really genuine connection with Goldie

(01:05:39):
and I am pretty sure this isn't the last time
you guys will hear on an episode of The Creative
and Balance. Like she mentioned, she wants to come back
with her band, and yeah, the door is always open
for you. Goldie, much love, Thank you for your time
and energy. And speaking of other people I would like
to thank for their time and energy. We can't run
off into the sunset without thanking all you legends on

(01:06:03):
the Patreon page and first, the biggest thanks to the
Queen Ola Mazuka of Sonic Fold. Another huge thanks Manda
McKnight aka vamp x thirteen on YouTube and Twitch. If
you're into comic books, movies, video games, and all things nerdy,
check out vamp x thirteen or just search for Amanda

(01:06:26):
McKnight in the googly Mooglies. Another huge thanks to the
wonderful Jenny Potter, the Legend, Devin McBride, back to back
double Impact, Allen's the Number One Gent, Alan Kent and
big Wig Alan Briggs, and last but not least, Francis
Coffer aka my mom. If you want to shout out

(01:06:49):
at the end of every episode and also get these
episodes early, raw on cut, right when I'm done the
zoom call, I just post them. You go to patreon
dot com, slash the creative and balance. It's only four
bucks a month. And beyond having my thanks.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
You can just go to bed at night and sleep
soundly knowing you're a badass motherfucker who supports raw, uncut
independent media and nobody can take that away from you.
You hear me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
With that being said, we got some amazing episodes coming
around the corner. Oh my god, I can't wait to
share it with you. But last but not least, I
appreciate you guys so much for listening and we'll catch
you next time.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
Waw