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🚨 SHOCKING: Gorgeous George's most CONTROVERSIAL 2004 shoot interview UNLEASHED! 🚨 The nWo's forgotten member and Randy Savage's manager delivers EXPLOSIVE revelations about wrestling's most dysfunctional stable! 💄 George exposes the BRUTAL truth about backstage politics, personal relationships, and the TOXIC atmosphere that destroyed careers! 💣 GEORGE'S MOST DEVASTATING 2004 REVELATIONS: Randy Savage's REAL personality and controlling behavior behind closed doors - The nWo's internal WARFARE and backstage power struggles exposed - Hulk Hogan's manipulation tactics and how he buried younger talent - Miss Elizabeth's tragic personal struggles and prescription drug problems - The HEATED confrontations between WCW management and nWo members - Eric Bischoff's favoritism and how it created locker room CHAOS - Stone Cold Steve Austin's early interactions with the nWo storyline - The truth about WCW's financial collapse and talent exodus - His thoughts on WWE's current Roman Reigns push vs nWo booking - CM Punk comparisons and modern wrestling's lack of realistic factions 🔥 This 2004 confession features George's most HONEST moments about wrestling's most influential stable and its devastating impact on careers! Raw insights about faction politics and personal relationships gone wrong! ⚠️ WARNING: Adult content including addiction, relationship issues, and career destruction! DOWNLOAD NOW and SUBSCRIBE for wrestling's most REVEALING faction exposés! 💄
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of the r Video Shoot interview series today were joined
but none other than gorgeous George. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Basically, my first question would be before you got into
the business of professional wrestling, what were you doing? And,
like I guess, go back to your childhood. Were a
wrestling fan.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I used to watch wrestling rock and roll wrestling cartoons when.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I was little, right with Hogan mister.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, yeah, everybody. I liked it. I liked it back
in the day when they had the real wrestling with
sister people arguing in before the storyline, really game.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Where'd you grow up at? Right?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
For another way?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
So did you get to go to any shows live
that came through their Divice role?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
They came all the time, but I never went. My
parents weren't really big into that. It was kind of
crazy because me and Randy grew up probably forty five
minutes from each other.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Grandy Okay, Now after high school, did you go to
college or anything? No? Okay, what did you do for
a job and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I had a baby really young, okay, and I was
sugar cool and I liked it, so.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Do what every once in a long So, did you
go to shows, and then at all, like before you
got into the business, Like, how did you meet Randy?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I met Randy at working at the Dalla host in Tampa, right,
and we became really good friends, and one thing like
to another, we started just being friends hanging out and
the next thing.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You know, we love cool Now Before when you started
hanging out with Randy, what was he like before you
actually got into the business, when you first met him?
What was Randy like?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I've never thought of him as Randy Sandvach because I
kind of met him as Randy Pop a little different, right,
and he's he's uh. I always like older men because
they're more wiser, and he I don't know, he just
he showed me a lot about life. He taught me
a lot, he really did. He he opened my eyes
to things that I didn't know that existed, like having
(01:48):
dreams and becoming something.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
More than what I was now when you first came
around the business, where a lot of the other boys
hitting on you and stuff like that, or did Randy
pretty much make it a point, Hey, she's with me.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I had one look walking through wrestling, and that was
I don't I don't even think I ever made eye
contact with more than one person there. I don't even know.
I don't even remember, because it's kind of fun now
because I'm a very social person. It's fun now to
be able to go to wrestling shows or things like
we are today and to be able to walk up
(02:19):
to people and say, hey, how you doing? Because I
think they thought I was a chirk because I never
said hello, and I've always been shy, and it's not
that I am at all, it's just I'm nervous, very
am a very nervous person, and especially by being walking
at Nike shows because he was jealous that I didn't know.
I still don't learn to conduct myself around the other wrestlers.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Right, So none of the other boys actually hit on
you at all either at first, No.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Because they're very respectful Randy.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I guess when was the first time that Randy said, Hey,
do you want to make a shot at coming to
you know a ballet or something like that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
How did that come about?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
They came about because I was the incense still and
I didn't want to be on television, and he told
me that he wanted he needed a valet because him
and Elizabeth was they were divorced, but they were doing,
you know, trying to work with a wood pack and
stuff like that, and they needed someone. He needed somebody
(03:16):
to regenerate this gimmuck. And we went to LA and
we met Tory Wilson and I was like, there's no
way that my boyfriend is traveling in a road with
that pret evil girl without me. Oh no. So he's like, well,
then you know what you have to do it. I
was like, I'm not going on TV. And he's like,
if you just, if you just try it, you know,
(03:37):
he might like it. And I never you know, to me,
I always thought I was never good at anything, you know.
And then I tried it one time. And since I
was a dance room, used to be among people and
I like fans and having fun and going crazy. Dressing
wild is what I do, and it was it was
kind of like my little niche, you know, that he
finally found and I liked.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It right right. What advice did Randy give you when
you first started the business.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
This just when you go to work. You go to work.
You don't hang out the bars after the shows. You
stay to yourself. The less you get involved with other
women or men friend wise, the less problems you had
to deal with later right now.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
As far as mentally preparing you, as far as getting
into the business and the ring psychology.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And stuff like that. What advice did he give you.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
We'll just look at me, just watch me at all times,
and it's Murphy's law sometimes and if things happen, they happen.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
If you did Randy try to teach you everything, or
did Randy actually, hey, talk to her she's been in
the business for a long time, or even with Elizabeth
when she was still there.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think Randy with more with Randy, Randy's man's man.
I think that he doesn't want he wants the women
to be the Garnish, not the He doesn't want them
to get hurt and he doesn't want them to I
don't know what. You know, he wants them to be
the ornament right and help and you know he actually
(05:01):
puts you over. He puts you know, he put me over.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know, did any other other women come up to
you and give you advice when you first got to
w CW at all or someone.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Talked to me. I was like, like, I said, do.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You think there was jealousy that you know, maybe you
didn't pay your dues and you just came.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Off, you know, from you know, Yeah, I'm sure. But
it would be like with anything with any woman with
their husband. If you were a lawyer and you needed
a secretary, I'd be your secretary. It wasn't nothing about
jumping into business to be famous for me because I
really didn't care. I don't really care to be famous.
It doesn't really bother me. I mean, it's fun to
(05:37):
meet people and go places and stuff, but it as
like being famous. I could get last.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
What was your first reaction to w CW Like the
atmosphere when you first got there.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh, it was cool because we were on baby faces, right,
and then all of a sudden one day we turned
the heel. But I got hit in the face with
the nine vote battery. I thought I was shot in
my face because we got in a fight with Raymond Cereo,
right and I hit him and stuff. So someone really
got me. But I came like a third third stocking
balcony hit me in my face, and there's an actual
(06:08):
picture of me going like that because I thought I
was shot. It was I swear the pain. It was no.
It could have been a house show and it was.
We were always afraid of getting hurt on house shows.
We would mess up a TV tape.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
What was your first experience like when you first came
out to the ring do you remember who he worked?
Or the first time you came out to the ring
with Randy? What do you remember what it was.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
For he they kind of threw me right in the
heat right as soon as I think it was kind
of like the Eric Bishoff wanted to see. Okay, Randy,
you know you want your girlfriend here, Let's throw in
the heat right. And the first day that I got there,
I had already start arguing with Charles Robinson and I
just want you know, I had a very short career
(06:48):
with the wrestling, but I had a great run. And
I had a great time with Brandy.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
When you say arguing as far as a shoot argument
or just something in the ring argument.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Argument with the show, okay, okay? And and and for me,
I'm not I'm very quiet, and I'd never talked on
the night before or yelling at somebody. And the funny
part of the show was was I was just supposed
to yell at him and that was it. And I
just my adrenaline was going on was whack. And I
don't know if you guys ever seen it, but I couldn't.
(07:17):
I was like all Charles Robinson and when we got then,
I was like, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I didn't mean hit you more to politics like backstage,
because I know there's a lot of politics going on
WW at the time.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
In any business, there's politics, you know, there's everything and entertainment.
Anything in political things is political, all right. It's what
you're doing, who you're with. You know, I wouldn't have
been at wrestling if it wasn't for Randy, you know.
I mean he brought me in the circus, you know,
he did, and I respect him for that.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Was there anyone in the business that seemed to be
at odds with Randy, because I know a lot of
the guys always, you know, said Randy wasn't a good guy,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I don't think that Randy's a good not a good guy.
I think that Randy's old school and he's dealing with
his father being wrestling and they lived down the road
half of their life, and he had a certain way
of living and things that were supposed to be done
the way they were and if you didn't do it
the way he wants it, I'm not having it right,
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Now, Randy had a reputation for being overly possessive with
his ex wife Elizabeth. Do you think that it was
unfounded based on how he treated you?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I just think what happens is Randy's very explained it.
He doesn't trust nobody, and when he does fall in
love with somebody, you know, because Elizabeth was a great lady,
he just loves or so he loves her so much,
and he loved me so much that when when any
I don't know, he doesn't want anyone to get around
(08:46):
his thing that he's he you know, he gives you
his all. Everything that he tells you his secrets is
love and he doesn't want everybody else to know this.
And if anybody starts getting close to the inner circle,
he's pushing him out right. It's just for his own protection,
for his one friend that he has.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Now, I know.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I did a couple of interviews with a couple of
guys that were in w or WWA at the time,
back in the eighties around the Heyday, and they said
Randy would actually lock her in like a closet or
a room or something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I think they made it out a little bit more
than it actually was. He used to lock me in
ros but it was so no one could come in there,
and you know, because you know, drop things in my
drinks or rape me and be in a room and
then you can't find me. It was all about a
protection thing. And you know what, Ever, since I haven't
(09:34):
been with Randy, now that I'm doing the wrestling and
the independent myself, I'm babied, you know. And I did
get thrown into the mix early. And I think things
should be certain ways because this is what I'm used to,
and you know, and I don't know, I just I
just am not a prima don it at all, right,
I like the most not person like that. But when
(09:56):
things I think should be taken care of, that's on management,
you know. That's what's making us to get to it.
We had to get for you people to take care
of us so we can take care of you, Joe.
And when those things aren't done, then you're the one
getting yelled at, right, yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now, you didn't travel at all before basically the wrestling business.
You were basically, you know, down in Florida, right, No.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I'm from cho like the Chicago area Rafford. Right, I
traveled a lot as being a teenager around the earth.
Aren't going crazy, right?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I mean as far as the road schedule.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I danced all over, right, I've been dancing for twelve years.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Oh wow, Okay. Now as far as like the road
schedule with wrestling, I mean, how to do adjust to
that because you basically you're in a different city every Monday.
When they were doing nitros and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I have a son, Wille twelve, in a couple of days,
and the schedule was really he tic, like three hundred
days a year, right, And I had to actually have
my sister moved down, which is she's twenty three. She
moved down to take care of my son while we
were on the road, right, And it was good. It
was good because that way because she's just like me.
(10:57):
And I was one hundred percent comfortable with leaving my
son with my sister.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
How did the other women treat you in the locker room.
I don't know who was there at the time. Sid's Toy, there.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Was Tori, there was Asia. Everybody treated me good. I
love Molly Holly, She's my favorite. And what do you
call it? Yeah, all the girls are really nice. Everybody
had their own gig there. I'm sure everybody wanted time space,
certain slats, and it's just the way it is wrestling,
(11:30):
and you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Now, before you started taking bumps and stuff, did anybody
actually take in the ring and try, you know, what
to do.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Randy did not want anyone to teach me one thing
to show me. We had had hours, We even had
a ring down the street from my house. He didn't
want me to get hurt. He wanted to put me
on a pedestal and walk around and save him. You know,
That's what to me, that that was his old school thing.
He doesn't like women. I don't think he really digs.
(12:00):
I don't know what his views are now, but I
know when I was with him, he didn't dig the
chicks wrestling.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Somebody told me, like how I told you how to
bump and stuff like that. I'm not it was.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We worked out in Florida in about one hundred and
twenty degrees steel storage bend with a ring in it.
Oh god, it sucked. Did you ever see the video
where I was doing the whole thing when they would
just showing clips with like me and Medusa.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yes, excuse me, Oory.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So anyways, it was really hot, and every time we
ever tried, we were so busy. He was doing thunder
Nitro and he was also on the booking committee, So
between that schedule and me having time to bump, it
just wasn't in the cards. It was just like, you know, right,
he wanted me to save him. I need to distract
(12:57):
me to do with my girl thing.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Right, worry. First thoughts on a hall Cogan.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
When you met sorry, huge, huge, beautiful guy, beautiful man,
great father, and before I met my husband, I had
never seen the greatest father in my whole life time. Man,
I couldn't believe it. He's like the best dad. He's
a great guy.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
How did Randy get along with him?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Because I know that in the past they had a
lot of tensions between each other, and I know it's
still today there's tension between the two just because they're
both superstars.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And you know, it's exact composition.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Everybody wants to be the king of the ring and
and he you know, uh, Hogan is always going to
be Hogan, right, and Randy's Ranny. And you know the
crazy thing is we used to hang out with him
every day it's been wrestling with Coron on Monday, and
they don't want to kill each other. What is happening here?
(13:51):
You know? Like I don't know. I just think it's
a love hate relationship. They love each other, but they
gets sick with you. I think, I think, I think Hogan.
I think Randy and Hogan think that. I'm sure you
saw the video with Hogan or he thinks that that.
Randy thinks it's his fault with the Elizabeth thing, right, Well,
(14:12):
I don't. I don't think that's the case. I think
I think Randy just he doesn't have that many friends
and he really loves Hogan in his heart. And I
just I don't know. I don't know what it is.
I've lived in so I have no idea what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
What are your first thoughts on you at Rick Flair?
What are your thoughts on Rick?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Besides you ripped my shirt off, I can't run anyway, No.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I was.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I'm impressed because those are the people that I watched
growing up and with I think wrestling is missing today
more of the show, the Rick Flairs, the people dressing up.
That's why when I did my costumes and and I
did Randy's costumes and we work together. If you notice,
when he came back, I wanted to make us the
old coursing to him. Kids by your dow get a
(15:00):
cool colt inside. There were cool you know, something extra
special for that the kids.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You know, did you actually do some of the clothes design?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I designed all the clothes besides another friend of his,
Michael Bron, and then so either outfits would match. And
so that's what we did. I think we had a
winning team. You know, we did good together.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Eric, were your first thoughts on him?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I don't think I could have impressed Eric. I always
felt like I wasn't good enough for Eric. I don't
think I never he really made me happy. One day
after the he never really talked to me very much.
And then after the Charles Robinson match, right he came
up to me and he was like a and I
(15:41):
was like, it really made me feel good because you know,
I don't know what I can say.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
He totally cursed and everything up a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Every every five minutes I'm fucking home, and you know,
it's just like because everything's so tense, and I get
nervous and ah, you were aren't here. And then the
whole spot got fucked up. And then then when I
got in the bag, I sorry, right, you know, I
was new to all the whole thing. I got thrown
in the fire the first day I walked out. I
(16:10):
had no training, No, I just wanted to be with
Randy on the road.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Right, and that was all. Now, do you agree with
the theory that the inmates ran the asylum sort of speak,
where the boys basically were control of Arkbischoff? You know,
you hear a lot of stories that you know national
Hall had his ear and then Hogan had his ear,
and you know, you.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Can't let anybody have your ear unless you want them
to have your ear. I mean, if you're going to
run a business, then you're going to do your thing,
then I don't think anybody can.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Budge your ear.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I'm sure that there's influence, right, But when you're as
big as Ara Bischoff and you're running the show, then
I guess you know, whatever came out was on him then,
And if it was the other guy's opinion and it
came out wrong, then you took the opinion so true.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
What are your thoughts on about Kevin Nash Scott Hall two.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Scott Hall and all of them. I love doing arch
desisions with my friend rob and Thank Kevin. We have
good times. It's fun of me, like I'm just like
one of the boys. They like hang out with those guys.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You talked briefly about your match with referee Charles Robinson.
It was six Slambury ninety nine right. What are your
members of that match?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I was the best. I would really loved Charles, and
I think that for him to be able to be
his guy right and for his moment in the sun
the way it was. I mean, I had to stop
myself from almost crying during the match because he was
doing the dance and stuff because it made me feel good.
And when we were training for the match in that
(17:43):
hot box I told you about it, we were dying
and he was so excited. I mean, to wear the
coat to do the right thing. You know, he really
loved it. It was good for him. Great match. I
would love to see if if I had time to
be able to wrestle and someone actually teach me, I
(18:04):
can pick stuff up. I just don't never have the
time because no one never tells me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Was it Molly Hollywood actually.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Trained you for I've only been trained seriously ten times. Wow,
that's all the other stuff is just winging it right.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
We're not taking a lot of bumps and stuff, so
you don't you.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Know, Yeah, I just want to be they could die
candy in.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
The right And thoughts on Medusa. What was she like? Huh?
Was it a bad question?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
No? No, no, I love to do so. She is
a very good teacher with wrestling. And I think that
I was really nervous with Medusa. I think she intimidated
me because she was She's strong on me, she's bigger
than me, She's I don't want to kick it in face. Hey,
when someone else is taking a kick, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
So she was pretty cool with you.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
No, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I know she's been in the past tough with certain
girls and stuff like that, but I guess that's just
the teaching respect of respect the business.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah it is, it is. But I've also been trained
by people that show me the same thing, and you know,
you can get cranked or you don't, and it still
teaches you the same move. So you know, you never know,
you know, I don't know. Maybe that's just true. I
think she just doesn't know how much adrenaline she has
because she's ready to kicks the ass.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
How about Asia? Your thoughts on Asia was like working
with her?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
She's a sweetheart, very very nice, soft spoken girl. I
thought it was a good deal when she was the nurse.
I like, there's the nurse. I didn't work with her
very much because by the time she started working w
CW was getting ready to end. And that's what it happened.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Also, Randy had a brief feud without Kevin Nash and
WW and you're with him for that. What are your
memories of those matches?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know what, He's fun to work with. He's a
great guy. And uh, I don't know. I just love Kevin.
He's one of my favorite wrestlers. And whenever we had
to work with Kevin, like, hey, I don't know, I
know we're supposed to.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
You don't hate everybody, but right everyone.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Knows well, there is a lot of hatred back there.
Don't get it up.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Remembers of the angle. I guess we're Kevin Pord's sewage
in your car?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
We gotta go there?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, definitely, did you see that?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I got a question for everybody that brought that sewer
truck there. Did you guys clean the ship out of
that thing. I don't know if it was a real
truck or not brand new, but dude, I don't know,
cleaning could get that thing to actually put more baked
sewage and then to get us girls. But it was
heavy that had the pressure of that my neck off
and we were just like So it was fun though,
(20:47):
and I had it. I actually we pre taped that first,
so I had to buy two of the same dresses.
The one that's actually downstairs is that we're selling right now,
but it was in that scene and we had to
buy two, just the one was dry for later because
we had to pre tape that. It was either in
the beginning, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Also, Rady worked with Dennis Robin A Road Wilde. What
was Dennis like?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Dennis is, Oh my god, Dennis is really sweet and
he is he gets nervous because even though he loves wrestling.
I could tell that it was it's not basketball.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Is this thing? Right?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And and you know, for him to be able to
work with us with the the thing, you know, it
was hard for us because he gets excited, and I
guess it was hard for me because we did like
the uh sturges. I had to give this guy a
ball shot, and I swear to God, no kidding his
balls here and my head is only right, Like how
much it get that? I mean, hello, you hatta been
(21:51):
down a little bit fast. I missed the ball shot
completely because I was too short. I might have got
a ball there. Something I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Now. Randy around this time is having some issues with
WCW management. What were those issues?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Randy went his way to the highway. He's not gonna
He doesn't have to do it for the money, just
because he wants to do it. He saved his money
and he you know, if he wants to wrestle again,
he will. If he doesn't, if the deal's not going
his way, he is not having it right.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Did you think that Randy was justified with his claims
at the time what he's arguing for.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Uh, it all depends on what you think you're worth.
I guess. I mean, if you know he's an older man,
he is one of the top stars. You know, you
do need star power to run something, just like WCW started,
and they had the star power, right, you needed to
pay those guys to get it over. You could have
a rest confederation with a million guys, and nobody knows
(22:50):
it an't gonna get over.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Now. Also, Randy worked with Vince Russo.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
What changes happened when W CW Wan Russo came aboard
besides him owing the company?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I don't remember how this went, but I honestly think
the Evince did not come until we were done.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Was it after?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I don't think he was there long. I don't remember
even hardly seeing him.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
No, you and Randy actually left the company at that point,
right before he came in. Then, what made you, guys
say just because Randy was getting his way?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
No, well, we were going through contract time again and
we were waiting contracts and.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Doing They actually gave you a contract.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
They didn't give you like per night basis for you
what you had a contract too, Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Our contract was together. So a delusion of us breaking
up then I got fired.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
So oh after Randy and you broke up, that's when
they fired you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, they didn't want him either, because I think he
just was asking you for too much.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Right, I don't know what it was the reason they
fired you. Did they tell you.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
They didn't fire me. They fired us together.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, Okay, so you didn't want to stay obviously.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
No, he did want to stay even if Randy wasn't
there and him weren't getting along too well at the time.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Okay, any regrets about your w cwsday.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
No, everything, I want to do it again. You know,
I just had a baby, and so I've I'm taking
time off and you know, you can't get this time
back that she's grown so and and I'm married now
and stuff and so everything's going good.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Cool now. In Chicago, your debut for ECW, you did
an angle with Francine. What was your memories of.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
That she waked?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
She had out of me with that pole? Is that
I was like, I got in the backroom and I
was like, what are you trying to do? Kill me?
She got me good? I remember, oh Man, from the
back I'm like like right at the end of my neck,
going all the way to cracked me around the top
of the head. It's a ben the first time I've
never been cracked with the pole.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Who contacted you from e c W. How did you
get there?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
She was friends with I think no about the time, okay,
I think, so what do you what are your members
of ACW because you only were there for a couple
of shows.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Shocker. I was not used to, uh, show your kids
the whole hardcore. I wasn't used to that blood and
the stuff, so it really overwhelmed me. I can't I
guess the first and then the girls are so involved
with getting DDT right, you know, to me, you know,
like a girl. I mean, it's just my opinion a
(25:22):
girl shouldn't get DDT because our next Really, I don't
know if it's such a good idea, because I don't
want to get into by anybody. I don't care how
good you are, just one little slipper. Your lin could
be slippery and then bam, you know, broken neck.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
You also did the pay per view I think with
Timy Dreamer, yours a special secret against Francine and I
think it was Jazz right, yeah, yeah, what are your
members of that?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And Jazz is cool? I worked with her someplace else
and I don't remember, but yeah, they're They're all great people.
Everybody a wrestled us has been awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Now, how would you compare the locker rooms between ww and.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
ECW ECW party exactly? WCW is was it organized? A
little organized? Not really? I went to WWF and I
just could not believe w WW. I couldn't believe what
I saw. They got thirdship in one set. Okay, I'm sorry,
but because w CW, I'm not cutting any right now.
(26:16):
But you know, you got people running around, schooling around,
playing games. And I went there for just one day
with Molly Holly, and everybody was just like wow, nobody talked.
Everybody was like they were very professional, very very I
was like overwhelmed. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
I was like, oh, this is something else.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
They have a makeup artist do Yeah, did anybody appach
you when you were over there?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Well, I tried to do. See, I'm not I'm just
not learning by doing the independence right. I paid my
dues in life more than one way or another, whether
it was dancing all these years or just because I
haven't been taking months as I mean, I haven't paid
my dues on the road. And I went there, and uh,
I forget what I was talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
We're talking about when you went to w W locker room.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Oh, I just I just felt kind of weird. I
guess I just wasn't. I didn't know a lot of
the stars. It got to meet China, and I love China.
China was my hero and now now I'm in the
Victoria because I like the big chicks.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Did anybody from office approach you at all when you
were there?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's what I'm talking about. They wanted me to do
a shoot, you know, like yelling at China on camera,
and I just I just wasn't ready for it, to
walk into there and not know one person start of
screaming the camera about somebody that's like my one of
my idols, like hey you.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Oh actually they also do a spot and you turned
it down.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well, I wasn't ready yet. I wasn't ready for the
you know, I want to be in the tip top
shape that that's the king king in the place, you know.
I want to when I go there, I want to
get I want to be able to talk on the
mic and have skills and if they make me wrestle,
know what I'm doing? Right? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Who approached you about doing something? Was it Pritchard or someone?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Was he cool when he told yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I just wasn't and I just went there to go see. No,
I didn't know this was going to happen, right, Molly, Holly,
I didn't use that, but you know I didn't. I
kind of was like on the spot, and I was
too nervous.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Looking back to you regret that decision, yes, interview, Yeah, no,
actually he could have done the spot with China and
then maybe had a you know.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
A job or Yeah. It was just it was just
a wrong time of day and I wasn't ready because
I didn't know. And also with the breakup with between
me and Randy, I didn't know what to expect at
this place. And I don't know who his friends or
and me and him, you know, he's we are not
on talking terms right. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
What let your breakup if it's too personally.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Can understand it's not too personal, because if it wasn't
too personal, then he would have done it right. I
don't care. He wanted to have a three wave.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
In living with my sister, so he liked your sister
as well.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yes, okay, he wanted us all three to live in
a house together. And that was not you know, it's like, okay,
you want Lanny to live with us, you know what
I mean? Like right, not for nothing? But I really
did care about him and love him. For someone to
say that to me was just it was kind of devastating.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
What happened with your sister that he didn't run off
with or did he?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
No, my sister was seventeen years old.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Oh there you go. All right, well, way, we need
to edit that part out. But anyway, now you never
went back to the UCW. What happened to you in ECW.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I just I don't really. I'm not one of those
kind of people that if you need, if you want
to talk to me and then talk to me, I'm
not up everybody's ass, you know, if you if you
think that you could use me in your show or whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
They were fine, So nobody Paul Hayman or nobody else
called it from the office after.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
The Paul Eman went straight to WWF after not very
long after, right, so right.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Okay, Now it's a pretty infamous, uh story that there
was a backstage point I guess at the kid Rock
concert with Roadway or Hawk and uh Randy and yourself
and I think Hawk's wife whatever what exactly happened that night,
because we did an interview with Hawk and he told
us his version. I forgot exactly what it was because
it was so long ago.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
But all I know is that we Randy wanted to
use the bathroom. And we were with my sister and
a girlfriend of mine and Randy and we walked into
the bathroom and we didn't even know they were there,
and there was journals and then there was like a
bathroom bart and stuff. We walked in and all of
a sudden, I didn't even know him without the makeup on,
(30:22):
you know. And then when I see him and his
wife started hollering at my Well, first of all, they
just went straight into a fight. Yeah, they didn't even
I don't think he said anything. By the time I
walked in the room, they were already fighting.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Was to begin with what they have heat over I
don't know long, yeah, all that type stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And I walked in and as they had the journals
ripping off the walls the doors of the lord.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So they're already hitting.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Two monsters, just fighting right, and there was about fifteen
people standing around in security outfits, and nobody stopped it.
Nobody stopped the fight. And then so there was popcns
that were full, and I started whipping them at Hawk's
head to get them to start potcansh and I was
hitting him, and then his wife got my sister's face
(31:13):
and was pushing my sister. And then my sister's younger
than me, and so you ain't doing that, right, We
got in a fight. So you got these huge men
fighting us, fighting and nobody, nobody's stopping it. It's like
it was insane. You got the huge men standing around
with security.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Start they did.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
They were scared to get into it. You shouldn't have
seen it. It was insane, right. But after I heard
Hawk's wife, you know, And I didn't mean to. I
just it was heavy, and nobody was helping to stop, you.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Know, right.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And after the whole thing was done, I actually went
to XWF and we were in Orlando, and I didn't
even notice it, but I was in the elevator going
like fifteen floors with Hawk and now the last heat
we had was with that. So I get to look
in and he's in the elevator with me.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I'm like a little did he know what was you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You know it was me? And then I just it
was getting heated. I had sweats rolling down the end.
And I looked at him and I said, I want
to tell you, I'm sorry. I did not mean to
ever do that, but no, one was stopping stuff and
I didn't know what to do. It was the same.
I mean, there's so many people in there and stuff,
and he says, you know what, George, He's like, that
was really cool that you said that, And I said,
(32:23):
I want you to tell you away. I'm sorry, And
we went down to the Hotel Barn and got chip
faced together and we made up. And I'm glad because
of down what's happened.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I was going to ask you, what do you regret
the incident?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
After you heard about Hawk passing away, so obviously what
I was going to ask you if you regreted the incident.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Oh, I regretted it when it happened before. I don't
like to fight people. I'm not a fighter. I'm a lover.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Right now, after you guys broke up, Randy tried to
take the name gorgeous George away from you.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yes, why there's the mice show downstairs is his grandpa's name.
He bought it from him for Lanny. We were trying
to micro name for me really fast because this whole
thing about me coming on TV just was within weeks.
And he's like, so we tried all these names and
it's costing us lots of lots of money. And then
(33:11):
he said to me one day we read the swim
Pool and he goes, I don't know what you think
about this, but I own a name and we need
one now, and we got it trademarks and everything. Excuse me,
He goes, how about how about gorgeous George? I said,
I love it? You really, I said, yeah, because it's
(33:31):
George to me. I don't need to cut down all
the Georgia's, but George to me is not a very
hot guy's name, but I think it would be hot
in a girl. And and then I saw the tapes
of Gorgeous George, the original with the blonde hair and
the food food, and that's how I am anyway, and
I was like, I would love to be him. I
would love to be his granddaughter and try to do
good for what he was.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
What led to I guess Randy telling you you can't
use that name anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
He had had me signed papers when we first started
being together, and you know, he knows the legal mumbo jumbo.
And I was pretty young. I had no idea what
was happening. And so after I like my name being George,
he named me he should let me have it right,
you know. And so when the breakup happened, I legally
changed my name to George Frankenstein.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
And that's my name, though I was gonna ask you
where did that name come from?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
My husband's last name is Frankenstein.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
That's a great kick name too.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Nobody forgets me, and I can tell you I'm George
Frankenstein and no one will forget it.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Georsh. Obviously he was Stein. He's Jewish, right Frankenstein.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Right, Well, he's an a. He was an abandon the Misfits, okay,
and he's so he's the wolf came on Frankenstein, so okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Any horror stories when he went on to Ndy scene
after well e c w after that he went on
the Eddy scene, any horror.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Stories from that?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Actually, oh, my Anie shows have been really great. I
mean in my head, I can't remember his of right
now any more stories, but I will tell you sometimes
getting stuck places and people not picking you up and
not paying, you know, and the jack off job they
do it in the scene. But as of like the
indie people, they're humble, they haven't been jaded yet, they
(35:07):
haven't got the star power that they can run around with,
and they are so cool. And all the girls that
I wrestled with are so nice, right, they treat me
so good. I mean they're like, you know, they're like
good friends of mine now. And I like doing the
indie stuff. It's fun, it's a good time.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Damn Pell, you worked for him up in Philly.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I believe those are my favorite chicks, the chicks he's
got running for him. They are good girls. There's a
lot of good talent there too.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Do you remember who you worked with?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Some there?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
But I don't don't.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Bobcat work with Bobcat? Oh god, I can't. What are
the nurses?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I haven't watched his product in so long?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't even you know.
Actually I just frand scene and mean wrestle and right,
you know, I don't know what his tape looks like.
I don't watch it.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I just go and do the job exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And I don't watch videotapes. I don't care what as
long as I know what I do and I'm comfortable
with it.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Then Jasmine Saint Class, she started promotion three PW. What
are your memories working for her?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I love, I loved Jasmine, she's you know, she gave
me a chance to record her, right, and we have
fun and it's cool. They're always there's always nice to
me if I if I have a problem with something
I don't want to do, they usually work around it.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And you know, right, cool. Now, you missed the last
three p W show you were booked on.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
My uncle's in the hospital with diabetes and he lost
his toes first and then they were going to amputate
his leg. So I only went away for ten days
and ended up staying for twenty.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
And so that has nothing to do with miss and
Jasmine shows.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
It's personal.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's personal. We get a lot of personal things going
on in our family that are a little more heavy. Right,
everybody's getting old, right all at once?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Now, do you expect to go back to three p
W or yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I mean if she's not mad because I missed the show.
I didn't mean to. It was a I had to
be gone.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And you said, you've been a mom. You have twelve
year olds on right, I was gonna ask you how
well this is a question. I thought, how has come?
And a mom changed her outlook on life with wrestling too?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
It's got a lot of things. You know, I dress
sexy and I and I wear sexy clothes and stuff
like that. But I would never want to be in
a program where whether it was WWE or anything. And
I'm not bad mouthing what the other girls do because
or whatever. But when my kids sees me on TV,
he sits at home with his friends in the front
(37:22):
and he's noses Mom's coming on Monday night. They had
a little popcorn and they're watching. I can't go on
there with Latex cities. I mean, not for nothing. But
I am a stripper. I work in strip clubs and
that is an adult and.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
You shall do that today.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I worked for a circuit for Continental and they put
Jen jameson all the hot features go there. But I
would not do nothing. Wrestling should be wrestling for me.
And I want to be, like I said, the ornament
and the helper and you know of a manager. You know,
that's what I would like to be right.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Now. And I believe it was like two thousand, WW
was going to try to do something with Valvenus and
there's rumors that they're gonna try to bring you in.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I heard it a couple of times with nobody called them.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Would would you ever go back there if they ever
approach you? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Second, what was the biggest misconception about yourself? What do
you think the biggest misconception about.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I think everybody thinks that I can't work. I think
that they think that I just got the easy ride
and you know, and that I need to pay dues
or whatever. Maybe it may be. But you know, you're
just gonna give me a chance, you know, put me
through a little bit of schooling, and I mean, you've
seen what I've done before, it can be done better
this time. You know, I'm older, wiser, I know I
(38:41):
know what to do. I've been around the business a
little bit more. It's I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Any good road stories that you can talk about?
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Oh boy, oh boy, I don't even know. I can't.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
What about Ribs? Have you seen any good Ribs? Ribs
jokes being played on people and stuff like that?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
What I myself every time I leave the front door. No. Actually,
most of the boys that I'm with they take care
of me. They like my big brothers. I usually I
have a tendency ange with old timers because they just
feel like it was in my I feel uncomfortable with them,
and a lot of times, like I don't know the
young guys right, and I'm married and stuff, and I
just I don't like to be in the situation where
(39:25):
I feel that I'm saying that the old timers they're
gonna try it too, but I'm also saying that I do.
Is I just feel more comfortable with being on people
that I know. When I was with Randy right right,
I feel like they kind of look out for me
just to had more.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Is there anybody that you never had a chance to
work with that you would love to work with besides China.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Girl Boy either or.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I wanted to work with Jeff Jared and be his ballet.
I wanted to be double G and he'd be double J.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
That would just be a NWT.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
I just tnah. Just when was it not so long ago?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I don't even know that?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I didn't even know that.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, I just did two shows for them.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
How did that work out?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Was it recently like the last thirty days?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
About forty?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Okay? Sure, do you know what they're going to call
you back? I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
What did you do down her.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I just come out. They called me. See I would
like to be called George, right, and they called it
you know I have There's there's little things I just
you know, like to say our toys Tory. I just
want to be my name, right. I want to be George.
They called me something else, and then you know, a
couple of things happened. I don't know what's up. I
really don't.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
No Sables just fired, I guess from w She was
released two weeks ago. Real, Yeah. She did an interview
somewhere and she said, like the wrestling business is very
sexist and stuff like that. Do you agree with her
or disagree?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
It's all what you raise your bar for. I mean
it's it's like it's the wimbo game of life. Right.
I'm a stripper and my shows are clean, and if
I want to do something that's nasty or wrong, she
I gave my I gave that to you. Now what's
my next step?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Right now? What more? Ran?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
She thinks? Do I have to raise my own bar
if I stay, if I stay at a certain level,
and I say this is what I'm going to do.
Look at mali Alli, She's not raising the bar for
herself and nobody's pushing it. I mean, you're making yourself
a sex symbol. Then you can You're going to either
take the heat or you're going to tell them no.
And if they say no, then go get another profession.
(41:26):
And you know, like you know, there's another reason why,
you know, if if if I went to WWE, I
would like to just be able to say that, you know,
I do have kids at home, and my kids I
have a little boy, you know, a little girl, and
I don't. I can't. I can't make them embarrassed, right
you know, or my father right right now?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Back in the day, you did a video, do you
regret it?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Okay, do you have you seen the guy who put
it out?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Or I can't because it's I did it when I
was really young and I was I was actually homeless
when I need the video, and I just worked for
internet company. I had no idea about that and stuff
like that, and then it it just I don't even
had computers back in the day when that happened, and
the guy blew it up and made it into this,
and the macho man sued them and now it's S
(42:13):
and D video and then they keep switching from video.
I don't even know who owns the video, right, And
I was devastated. And not only was I devastated for
those people to take advantage of somebody that was so
young and turn it into something like that is now
that I'm an adult, I hate them people, right. I mean,
to be honest, I'm having the same thing Pamela Anderson
(42:34):
problems and they own the same company, the same tape.
You know. It's just it's a very It's someone's weakness, right,
you know, take from somebody's weakness to do something wrong.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Now, currently you're touring, I guess that you're going with
Danzac or something like that. What's your future plans?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Well, right now, my husband's band is going to be
signed and it's called Corseus Frankenstein.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Right, that's half my name. Half. This is cool, and we.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
We're gonna have really good stuff. I mean, you know,
hopefully it's some of it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
It's you know, are you a singer?
Speaker 2 (43:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Okay? What do you? What do you do?
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I dance? Okay, I'm a stage dancer.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Oh cool? So wow? How long you be doing that for?
As far as like the music.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Stuff, I've always been in and out of it, like
my since I was like seventeen, Like a lot of
bands from where I'm from, I've always been in the
band scene, right, and so now you know, now we're
going to do a dance I think we're leaving September.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Thirteen, so you're actually on tour dancing, right, We're getting
ready to.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Go with tour with dance again. We're going to be
in the bus and then we're done with the dancing tour.
We're going on to it with our band.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Oh cool, awesome, we need to bring up babies.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
We excited?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Really, what's your future plans after the music?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
We're gonna roll this music thing. And I would love
to be able to be who I am, who I
really am instead of you know what I mean, right
for wrestling, because because that's what I'm going to be
for for the band, you know what I mean, like
who I really am? I, you know, instead of somebody
tell me, I would like to just be me. I
think it would get over easier. Any regrets at all,
(44:07):
No regrets, welcome back, do it all again the same way.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Cool. Do you have any questions? Do you have anything
you want to say your fans that you never had
a chance to say.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
To thank you guys, wo be nice to me and always,
you know, always supporting me and stuff like that, and
they'd be great. I mean, I I've been down there,
you know, talking to people the best, you know, two
days now and everybody's awesome.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I didn't know you're gonna be here this weekend. How'd
you get hooked up with this? Oh? My friend Rob
Okay Cool.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
He does my promotions, Rob Hopkin Cool.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Is there anything you want to plug? Any websites or anything?
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Actually, we're gonna open up. But you could look on
the Dancy website, the official website or Dancy and look
under the Blackness of the Black Tour and if you
look under Doyle, which is my husband's name, it'll tell
where the dates are so you'd be able to see.
Because it's just gonna be the first time in twenty
years at the Misfit Died reunion Glenn.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Once in Philly that was back in.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
The day years ago. No, because this is the first
time in twenty years.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Oh no, no, I think I've seen Glenn by himself.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I haven't, guys seen it really, so it's gonna be
He's one of my favorite singers. For Glenn and my
husband to be doing the same thing together, it's gonna
be really very cool. And so yeah, we're gonna tour.
I'm taking the baby, we'll get our own bus, and
we're gonna awesome right behind dancing.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I guess that's it. Thank you for being here today.
Else you want to say, anybody or what? All right? Cool?
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Cool.
Of the r Video Shoot interview series today were joined
but none other than gorgeous George. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Basically, my first question would be before you got into
the business of professional wrestling, what were you doing? And,
like I guess, go back to your childhood. Were a
wrestling fan.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I used to watch wrestling rock and roll wrestling cartoons when.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I was little, right with Hogan mister.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, yeah, everybody. I liked it. I liked it back
in the day when they had the real wrestling with
sister people arguing in before the storyline, really game.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Where'd you grow up at? Right?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
For another way?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
So did you get to go to any shows live
that came through their Divice role?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
They came all the time, but I never went. My
parents weren't really big into that. It was kind of
crazy because me and Randy grew up probably forty five
minutes from each other.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Grandy Okay, Now after high school, did you go to
college or anything? No? Okay, what did you do for
a job and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I had a baby really young, okay, and I was
sugar cool and I liked it, so.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Do what every once in a long So, did you
go to shows, and then at all, like before you
got into the business, Like, how did you meet Randy?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I met Randy at working at the Dalla host in Tampa, right,
and we became really good friends, and one thing like
to another, we started just being friends hanging out and
the next thing.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You know, we love cool Now Before when you started
hanging out with Randy, what was he like before you
actually got into the business, when you first met him?
What was Randy like?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I've never thought of him as Randy Sandvach because I
kind of met him as Randy Pop a little different, right,
and he's he's uh. I always like older men because
they're more wiser, and he I don't know, he just
he showed me a lot about life. He taught me
a lot, he really did. He he opened my eyes
to things that I didn't know that existed, like having
(01:48):
dreams and becoming something.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
More than what I was now when you first came
around the business, where a lot of the other boys
hitting on you and stuff like that, or did Randy
pretty much make it a point, Hey, she's with me.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I had one look walking through wrestling, and that was
I don't I don't even think I ever made eye
contact with more than one person there. I don't even know.
I don't even remember, because it's kind of fun now
because I'm a very social person. It's fun now to
be able to go to wrestling shows or things like
we are today and to be able to walk up
(02:19):
to people and say, hey, how you doing? Because I
think they thought I was a chirk because I never
said hello, and I've always been shy, and it's not
that I am at all, it's just I'm nervous, very
am a very nervous person, and especially by being walking
at Nike shows because he was jealous that I didn't know.
I still don't learn to conduct myself around the other wrestlers.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Right, So none of the other boys actually hit on
you at all either at first, No.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Because they're very respectful Randy.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I guess when was the first time that Randy said, Hey,
do you want to make a shot at coming to
you know a ballet or something like that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
How did that come about?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
They came about because I was the incense still and
I didn't want to be on television, and he told
me that he wanted he needed a valet because him
and Elizabeth was they were divorced, but they were doing,
you know, trying to work with a wood pack and
stuff like that, and they needed someone. He needed somebody
(03:16):
to regenerate this gimmuck. And we went to LA and
we met Tory Wilson and I was like, there's no
way that my boyfriend is traveling in a road with
that pret evil girl without me. Oh no. So he's like, well,
then you know what you have to do it. I
was like, I'm not going on TV. And he's like,
if you just, if you just try it, you know,
(03:37):
he might like it. And I never you know, to me,
I always thought I was never good at anything, you know.
And then I tried it one time. And since I
was a dance room, used to be among people and
I like fans and having fun and going crazy. Dressing
wild is what I do, and it was it was
kind of like my little niche, you know, that he
finally found and I liked.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It right right. What advice did Randy give you when
you first started the business.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
This just when you go to work. You go to work.
You don't hang out the bars after the shows. You
stay to yourself. The less you get involved with other
women or men friend wise, the less problems you had
to deal with later right now.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
As far as mentally preparing you, as far as getting
into the business and the ring psychology.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And stuff like that. What advice did he give you.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
We'll just look at me, just watch me at all times,
and it's Murphy's law sometimes and if things happen, they happen.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
If you did Randy try to teach you everything, or
did Randy actually, hey, talk to her she's been in
the business for a long time, or even with Elizabeth
when she was still there.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think Randy with more with Randy, Randy's man's man.
I think that he doesn't want he wants the women
to be the Garnish, not the He doesn't want them
to get hurt and he doesn't want them to I
don't know what. You know, he wants them to be
the ornament right and help and you know he actually
(05:01):
puts you over. He puts you know, he put me over.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know, did any other other women come up to
you and give you advice when you first got to
w CW at all or someone.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Talked to me. I was like, like, I said, do.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
You think there was jealousy that you know, maybe you
didn't pay your dues and you just came.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Off, you know, from you know, Yeah, I'm sure. But
it would be like with anything with any woman with
their husband. If you were a lawyer and you needed
a secretary, I'd be your secretary. It wasn't nothing about
jumping into business to be famous for me because I
really didn't care. I don't really care to be famous.
It doesn't really bother me. I mean, it's fun to
(05:37):
meet people and go places and stuff, but it as
like being famous. I could get last.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
What was your first reaction to w CW Like the
atmosphere when you first got there.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh, it was cool because we were on baby faces, right,
and then all of a sudden one day we turned
the heel. But I got hit in the face with
the nine vote battery. I thought I was shot in
my face because we got in a fight with Raymond Cereo,
right and I hit him and stuff. So someone really
got me. But I came like a third third stocking
balcony hit me in my face, and there's an actual
(06:08):
picture of me going like that because I thought I
was shot. It was I swear the pain. It was no.
It could have been a house show and it was.
We were always afraid of getting hurt on house shows.
We would mess up a TV tape.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
What was your first experience like when you first came
out to the ring do you remember who he worked?
Or the first time you came out to the ring
with Randy? What do you remember what it was.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
For he they kind of threw me right in the
heat right as soon as I think it was kind
of like the Eric Bishoff wanted to see. Okay, Randy,
you know you want your girlfriend here, Let's throw in
the heat right. And the first day that I got there,
I had already start arguing with Charles Robinson and I
just want you know, I had a very short career
(06:48):
with the wrestling, but I had a great run. And
I had a great time with Brandy.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
When you say arguing as far as a shoot argument
or just something in the ring argument.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Argument with the show, okay, okay? And and and for me,
I'm not I'm very quiet, and I'd never talked on
the night before or yelling at somebody. And the funny
part of the show was was I was just supposed
to yell at him and that was it. And I
just my adrenaline was going on was whack. And I
don't know if you guys ever seen it, but I couldn't.
(07:17):
I was like all Charles Robinson and when we got then,
I was like, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I didn't mean hit you more to politics like backstage,
because I know there's a lot of politics going on
WW at the time.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
In any business, there's politics, you know, there's everything and entertainment.
Anything in political things is political, all right. It's what
you're doing, who you're with. You know, I wouldn't have
been at wrestling if it wasn't for Randy, you know.
I mean he brought me in the circus, you know,
he did, and I respect him for that.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Was there anyone in the business that seemed to be
at odds with Randy, because I know a lot of
the guys always, you know, said Randy wasn't a good guy,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I don't think that Randy's a good not a good guy.
I think that Randy's old school and he's dealing with
his father being wrestling and they lived down the road
half of their life, and he had a certain way
of living and things that were supposed to be done
the way they were and if you didn't do it
the way he wants it, I'm not having it right,
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Now, Randy had a reputation for being overly possessive with
his ex wife Elizabeth. Do you think that it was
unfounded based on how he treated you?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I just think what happens is Randy's very explained it.
He doesn't trust nobody, and when he does fall in
love with somebody, you know, because Elizabeth was a great lady,
he just loves or so he loves her so much,
and he loved me so much that when when any
I don't know, he doesn't want anyone to get around
(08:46):
his thing that he's he you know, he gives you
his all. Everything that he tells you his secrets is
love and he doesn't want everybody else to know this.
And if anybody starts getting close to the inner circle,
he's pushing him out right. It's just for his own protection,
for his one friend that he has.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Now, I know.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I did a couple of interviews with a couple of
guys that were in w or WWA at the time,
back in the eighties around the Heyday, and they said
Randy would actually lock her in like a closet or
a room or something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I think they made it out a little bit more
than it actually was. He used to lock me in
ros but it was so no one could come in there,
and you know, because you know, drop things in my
drinks or rape me and be in a room and
then you can't find me. It was all about a
protection thing. And you know what, Ever, since I haven't
(09:34):
been with Randy, now that I'm doing the wrestling and
the independent myself, I'm babied, you know. And I did
get thrown into the mix early. And I think things
should be certain ways because this is what I'm used to,
and you know, and I don't know, I just I
just am not a prima don it at all, right,
I like the most not person like that. But when
(09:56):
things I think should be taken care of, that's on management,
you know. That's what's making us to get to it.
We had to get for you people to take care
of us so we can take care of you, Joe.
And when those things aren't done, then you're the one
getting yelled at, right, yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now, you didn't travel at all before basically the wrestling business.
You were basically, you know, down in Florida, right, No.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I'm from cho like the Chicago area Rafford. Right, I
traveled a lot as being a teenager around the earth.
Aren't going crazy, right?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I mean as far as the road schedule.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I danced all over, right, I've been dancing for twelve years.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Oh wow, Okay. Now as far as like the road
schedule with wrestling, I mean, how to do adjust to
that because you basically you're in a different city every Monday.
When they were doing nitros and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I have a son, Wille twelve, in a couple of days,
and the schedule was really he tic, like three hundred
days a year, right, And I had to actually have
my sister moved down, which is she's twenty three. She
moved down to take care of my son while we
were on the road, right, And it was good. It
was good because that way because she's just like me.
(10:57):
And I was one hundred percent comfortable with leaving my
son with my sister.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
How did the other women treat you in the locker room.
I don't know who was there at the time. Sid's Toy, there.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Was Tori, there was Asia. Everybody treated me good. I
love Molly Holly, She's my favorite. And what do you
call it? Yeah, all the girls are really nice. Everybody
had their own gig there. I'm sure everybody wanted time space,
certain slats, and it's just the way it is wrestling,
(11:30):
and you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Now, before you started taking bumps and stuff, did anybody
actually take in the ring and try, you know, what
to do.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Randy did not want anyone to teach me one thing
to show me. We had had hours, We even had
a ring down the street from my house. He didn't
want me to get hurt. He wanted to put me
on a pedestal and walk around and save him. You know,
That's what to me, that that was his old school thing.
He doesn't like women. I don't think he really digs.
(12:00):
I don't know what his views are now, but I
know when I was with him, he didn't dig the
chicks wrestling.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Somebody told me, like how I told you how to
bump and stuff like that. I'm not it was.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
We worked out in Florida in about one hundred and
twenty degrees steel storage bend with a ring in it.
Oh god, it sucked. Did you ever see the video
where I was doing the whole thing when they would
just showing clips with like me and Medusa.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yes, excuse me, Oory.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So anyways, it was really hot, and every time we
ever tried, we were so busy. He was doing thunder
Nitro and he was also on the booking committee, So
between that schedule and me having time to bump, it
just wasn't in the cards. It was just like, you know, right,
he wanted me to save him. I need to distract
(12:57):
me to do with my girl thing.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Right, worry. First thoughts on a hall Cogan.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
When you met sorry, huge, huge, beautiful guy, beautiful man,
great father, and before I met my husband, I had
never seen the greatest father in my whole life time. Man,
I couldn't believe it. He's like the best dad. He's
a great guy.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
How did Randy get along with him?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Because I know that in the past they had a
lot of tensions between each other, and I know it's
still today there's tension between the two just because they're
both superstars.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And you know, it's exact composition.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Everybody wants to be the king of the ring and
and he you know, uh, Hogan is always going to
be Hogan, right, and Randy's Ranny. And you know the
crazy thing is we used to hang out with him
every day it's been wrestling with Coron on Monday, and
they don't want to kill each other. What is happening here?
(13:51):
You know? Like I don't know. I just think it's
a love hate relationship. They love each other, but they
gets sick with you. I think, I think, I think Hogan.
I think Randy and Hogan think that. I'm sure you
saw the video with Hogan or he thinks that that.
Randy thinks it's his fault with the Elizabeth thing, right, Well,
(14:12):
I don't. I don't think that's the case. I think
I think Randy just he doesn't have that many friends
and he really loves Hogan in his heart. And I
just I don't know. I don't know what it is.
I've lived in so I have no idea what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
What are your first thoughts on you at Rick Flair?
What are your thoughts on Rick?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Besides you ripped my shirt off, I can't run anyway, No.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I was.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I'm impressed because those are the people that I watched
growing up and with I think wrestling is missing today
more of the show, the Rick Flairs, the people dressing up.
That's why when I did my costumes and and I
did Randy's costumes and we work together. If you notice,
when he came back, I wanted to make us the
old coursing to him. Kids by your dow get a
(15:00):
cool colt inside. There were cool you know, something extra
special for that the kids.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You know, did you actually do some of the clothes design?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I designed all the clothes besides another friend of his,
Michael Bron, and then so either outfits would match. And
so that's what we did. I think we had a
winning team. You know, we did good together.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Eric, were your first thoughts on him?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I don't think I could have impressed Eric. I always
felt like I wasn't good enough for Eric. I don't
think I never he really made me happy. One day
after the he never really talked to me very much.
And then after the Charles Robinson match, right he came
up to me and he was like a and I
(15:41):
was like, it really made me feel good because you know,
I don't know what I can say.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
He totally cursed and everything up a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Every every five minutes I'm fucking home, and you know,
it's just like because everything's so tense, and I get
nervous and ah, you were aren't here. And then the
whole spot got fucked up. And then then when I
got in the bag, I sorry, right, you know, I
was new to all the whole thing. I got thrown
in the fire the first day I walked out. I
(16:10):
had no training, No, I just wanted to be with
Randy on the road.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Right, and that was all. Now, do you agree with
the theory that the inmates ran the asylum sort of speak,
where the boys basically were control of Arkbischoff? You know,
you hear a lot of stories that you know national
Hall had his ear and then Hogan had his ear,
and you know, you.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Can't let anybody have your ear unless you want them
to have your ear. I mean, if you're going to
run a business, then you're going to do your thing,
then I don't think anybody can.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Budge your ear.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I'm sure that there's influence, right, But when you're as
big as Ara Bischoff and you're running the show, then
I guess you know, whatever came out was on him then,
And if it was the other guy's opinion and it
came out wrong, then you took the opinion so true.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
What are your thoughts on about Kevin Nash Scott Hall two.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Scott Hall and all of them. I love doing arch
desisions with my friend rob and Thank Kevin. We have
good times. It's fun of me, like I'm just like
one of the boys. They like hang out with those guys.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You talked briefly about your match with referee Charles Robinson.
It was six Slambury ninety nine right. What are your
members of that match?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I was the best. I would really loved Charles, and
I think that for him to be able to be
his guy right and for his moment in the sun
the way it was. I mean, I had to stop
myself from almost crying during the match because he was
doing the dance and stuff because it made me feel good.
And when we were training for the match in that
(17:43):
hot box I told you about it, we were dying
and he was so excited. I mean, to wear the
coat to do the right thing. You know, he really
loved it. It was good for him. Great match. I
would love to see if if I had time to
be able to wrestle and someone actually teach me, I
(18:04):
can pick stuff up. I just don't never have the
time because no one never tells me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Was it Molly Hollywood actually.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Trained you for I've only been trained seriously ten times. Wow,
that's all the other stuff is just winging it right.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
We're not taking a lot of bumps and stuff, so
you don't you.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Know, Yeah, I just want to be they could die
candy in.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
The right And thoughts on Medusa. What was she like? Huh?
Was it a bad question?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
No? No, no, I love to do so. She is
a very good teacher with wrestling. And I think that
I was really nervous with Medusa. I think she intimidated
me because she was She's strong on me, she's bigger
than me, She's I don't want to kick it in face. Hey,
when someone else is taking a kick, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
So she was pretty cool with you.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
No, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I know she's been in the past tough with certain
girls and stuff like that, but I guess that's just
the teaching respect of respect the business.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah it is, it is. But I've also been trained
by people that show me the same thing, and you know,
you can get cranked or you don't, and it still
teaches you the same move. So you know, you never know,
you know, I don't know. Maybe that's just true. I
think she just doesn't know how much adrenaline she has
because she's ready to kicks the ass.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
How about Asia? Your thoughts on Asia was like working
with her?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
She's a sweetheart, very very nice, soft spoken girl. I
thought it was a good deal when she was the nurse.
I like, there's the nurse. I didn't work with her
very much because by the time she started working w
CW was getting ready to end. And that's what it happened.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Also, Randy had a brief feud without Kevin Nash and
WW and you're with him for that. What are your
memories of those matches?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know what, He's fun to work with. He's a
great guy. And uh, I don't know. I just love Kevin.
He's one of my favorite wrestlers. And whenever we had
to work with Kevin, like, hey, I don't know, I
know we're supposed to.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
You don't hate everybody, but right everyone.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Knows well, there is a lot of hatred back there.
Don't get it up.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Remembers of the angle. I guess we're Kevin Pord's sewage
in your car?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
We gotta go there?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, definitely, did you see that?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I got a question for everybody that brought that sewer
truck there. Did you guys clean the ship out of
that thing. I don't know if it was a real
truck or not brand new, but dude, I don't know,
cleaning could get that thing to actually put more baked
sewage and then to get us girls. But it was
heavy that had the pressure of that my neck off
and we were just like So it was fun though,
(20:47):
and I had it. I actually we pre taped that first,
so I had to buy two of the same dresses.
The one that's actually downstairs is that we're selling right now,
but it was in that scene and we had to
buy two, just the one was dry for later because
we had to pre tape that. It was either in
the beginning, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Also, Rady worked with Dennis Robin A Road Wilde. What
was Dennis like?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Dennis is, Oh my god, Dennis is really sweet and
he is he gets nervous because even though he loves wrestling.
I could tell that it was it's not basketball.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Is this thing? Right?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And and you know, for him to be able to
work with us with the the thing, you know, it
was hard for us because he gets excited, and I
guess it was hard for me because we did like
the uh sturges. I had to give this guy a
ball shot, and I swear to God, no kidding his
balls here and my head is only right, Like how
much it get that? I mean, hello, you hatta been
(21:51):
down a little bit fast. I missed the ball shot
completely because I was too short. I might have got
a ball there. Something I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Now. Randy around this time is having some issues with
WCW management. What were those issues?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Randy went his way to the highway. He's not gonna
He doesn't have to do it for the money, just
because he wants to do it. He saved his money
and he you know, if he wants to wrestle again,
he will. If he doesn't, if the deal's not going
his way, he is not having it right.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Did you think that Randy was justified with his claims
at the time what he's arguing for.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Uh, it all depends on what you think you're worth.
I guess. I mean, if you know he's an older man,
he is one of the top stars. You know, you
do need star power to run something, just like WCW started,
and they had the star power, right, you needed to
pay those guys to get it over. You could have
a rest confederation with a million guys, and nobody knows
(22:50):
it an't gonna get over.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Now. Also, Randy worked with Vince Russo.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
What changes happened when W CW Wan Russo came aboard
besides him owing the company?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I don't remember how this went, but I honestly think
the Evince did not come until we were done.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Was it after?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I don't think he was there long. I don't remember
even hardly seeing him.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
No, you and Randy actually left the company at that point,
right before he came in. Then, what made you, guys
say just because Randy was getting his way?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
No, well, we were going through contract time again and
we were waiting contracts and.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Doing They actually gave you a contract.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
They didn't give you like per night basis for you
what you had a contract too, Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Our contract was together. So a delusion of us breaking
up then I got fired.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
So oh after Randy and you broke up, that's when
they fired you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, they didn't want him either, because I think he
just was asking you for too much.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Right, I don't know what it was the reason they
fired you. Did they tell you.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
They didn't fire me. They fired us together.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, Okay, so you didn't want to stay obviously.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
No, he did want to stay even if Randy wasn't
there and him weren't getting along too well at the time.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Okay, any regrets about your w cwsday.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
No, everything, I want to do it again. You know,
I just had a baby, and so I've I'm taking
time off and you know, you can't get this time
back that she's grown so and and I'm married now
and stuff and so everything's going good.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Cool now. In Chicago, your debut for ECW, you did
an angle with Francine. What was your memories of.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
That she waked?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
She had out of me with that pole? Is that
I was like, I got in the backroom and I
was like, what are you trying to do? Kill me?
She got me good? I remember, oh Man, from the
back I'm like like right at the end of my neck,
going all the way to cracked me around the top
of the head. It's a ben the first time I've
never been cracked with the pole.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Who contacted you from e c W. How did you
get there?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
She was friends with I think no about the time, okay,
I think, so what do you what are your members
of ACW because you only were there for a couple
of shows.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Shocker. I was not used to, uh, show your kids
the whole hardcore. I wasn't used to that blood and
the stuff, so it really overwhelmed me. I can't I
guess the first and then the girls are so involved
with getting DDT right, you know, to me, you know,
like a girl. I mean, it's just my opinion a
(25:22):
girl shouldn't get DDT because our next Really, I don't
know if it's such a good idea, because I don't
want to get into by anybody. I don't care how
good you are, just one little slipper. Your lin could
be slippery and then bam, you know, broken neck.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
You also did the pay per view I think with
Timy Dreamer, yours a special secret against Francine and I
think it was Jazz right, yeah, yeah, what are your
members of that?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And Jazz is cool? I worked with her someplace else
and I don't remember, but yeah, they're They're all great people.
Everybody a wrestled us has been awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Now, how would you compare the locker rooms between ww and.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
ECW ECW party exactly? WCW is was it organized? A
little organized? Not really? I went to WWF and I
just could not believe w WW. I couldn't believe what
I saw. They got thirdship in one set. Okay, I'm sorry,
but because w CW, I'm not cutting any right now.
(26:16):
But you know, you got people running around, schooling around,
playing games. And I went there for just one day
with Molly Holly, and everybody was just like wow, nobody talked.
Everybody was like they were very professional, very very I
was like overwhelmed. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
I was like, oh, this is something else.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
They have a makeup artist do Yeah, did anybody appach
you when you were over there?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Well, I tried to do. See, I'm not I'm just
not learning by doing the independence right. I paid my
dues in life more than one way or another, whether
it was dancing all these years or just because I
haven't been taking months as I mean, I haven't paid
my dues on the road. And I went there, and uh,
I forget what I was talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
We're talking about when you went to w W locker room.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Oh, I just I just felt kind of weird. I
guess I just wasn't. I didn't know a lot of
the stars. It got to meet China, and I love China.
China was my hero and now now I'm in the
Victoria because I like the big chicks.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Did anybody from office approach you at all when you
were there?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's what I'm talking about. They wanted me to do
a shoot, you know, like yelling at China on camera,
and I just I just wasn't ready for it, to
walk into there and not know one person start of
screaming the camera about somebody that's like my one of
my idols, like hey you.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Oh actually they also do a spot and you turned
it down.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well, I wasn't ready yet. I wasn't ready for the
you know, I want to be in the tip top
shape that that's the king king in the place, you know.
I want to when I go there, I want to
get I want to be able to talk on the
mic and have skills and if they make me wrestle,
know what I'm doing? Right? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Who approached you about doing something? Was it Pritchard or someone?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Was he cool when he told yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I just wasn't and I just went there to go see. No,
I didn't know this was going to happen, right, Molly, Holly,
I didn't use that, but you know I didn't. I
kind of was like on the spot, and I was
too nervous.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Looking back to you regret that decision, yes, interview, Yeah, no,
actually he could have done the spot with China and
then maybe had a you know.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
A job or Yeah. It was just it was just
a wrong time of day and I wasn't ready because
I didn't know. And also with the breakup with between
me and Randy, I didn't know what to expect at
this place. And I don't know who his friends or
and me and him, you know, he's we are not
on talking terms right. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
What let your breakup if it's too personally.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Can understand it's not too personal, because if it wasn't
too personal, then he would have done it right. I
don't care. He wanted to have a three wave.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
In living with my sister, so he liked your sister
as well.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yes, okay, he wanted us all three to live in
a house together. And that was not you know, it's like, okay,
you want Lanny to live with us, you know what
I mean? Like right, not for nothing? But I really
did care about him and love him. For someone to
say that to me was just it was kind of devastating.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
What happened with your sister that he didn't run off
with or did he?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
No, my sister was seventeen years old.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Oh there you go. All right, well, way, we need
to edit that part out. But anyway, now you never
went back to the UCW. What happened to you in ECW.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I just I don't really. I'm not one of those
kind of people that if you need, if you want
to talk to me and then talk to me, I'm
not up everybody's ass, you know, if you if you
think that you could use me in your show or whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
They were fine, So nobody Paul Hayman or nobody else
called it from the office after.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
The Paul Eman went straight to WWF after not very
long after, right, so right.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Okay, Now it's a pretty infamous, uh story that there
was a backstage point I guess at the kid Rock
concert with Roadway or Hawk and uh Randy and yourself
and I think Hawk's wife whatever what exactly happened that night,
because we did an interview with Hawk and he told
us his version. I forgot exactly what it was because
it was so long ago.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
But all I know is that we Randy wanted to
use the bathroom. And we were with my sister and
a girlfriend of mine and Randy and we walked into
the bathroom and we didn't even know they were there,
and there was journals and then there was like a
bathroom bart and stuff. We walked in and all of
a sudden, I didn't even know him without the makeup on,
(30:22):
you know. And then when I see him and his
wife started hollering at my Well, first of all, they
just went straight into a fight. Yeah, they didn't even
I don't think he said anything. By the time I
walked in the room, they were already fighting.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Was to begin with what they have heat over I
don't know long, yeah, all that type stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And I walked in and as they had the journals
ripping off the walls the doors of the lord.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So they're already hitting.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Two monsters, just fighting right, and there was about fifteen
people standing around in security outfits, and nobody stopped it.
Nobody stopped the fight. And then so there was popcns
that were full, and I started whipping them at Hawk's
head to get them to start potcansh and I was
hitting him, and then his wife got my sister's face
(31:13):
and was pushing my sister. And then my sister's younger
than me, and so you ain't doing that, right, We
got in a fight. So you got these huge men
fighting us, fighting and nobody, nobody's stopping it. It's like
it was insane. You got the huge men standing around
with security.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Start they did.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
They were scared to get into it. You shouldn't have
seen it. It was insane, right. But after I heard
Hawk's wife, you know, And I didn't mean to. I
just it was heavy, and nobody was helping to stop, you.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Know, right.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And after the whole thing was done, I actually went
to XWF and we were in Orlando, and I didn't
even notice it, but I was in the elevator going
like fifteen floors with Hawk and now the last heat
we had was with that. So I get to look
in and he's in the elevator with me.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I'm like a little did he know what was you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You know it was me? And then I just it
was getting heated. I had sweats rolling down the end.
And I looked at him and I said, I want
to tell you, I'm sorry. I did not mean to
ever do that, but no, one was stopping stuff and
I didn't know what to do. It was the same.
I mean, there's so many people in there and stuff,
and he says, you know what, George, He's like, that
was really cool that you said that, And I said,
(32:23):
I want you to tell you away. I'm sorry, And
we went down to the Hotel Barn and got chip
faced together and we made up. And I'm glad because
of down what's happened.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I was going to ask you, what do you regret
the incident?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
After you heard about Hawk passing away, so obviously what
I was going to ask you if you regreted the incident.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Oh, I regretted it when it happened before. I don't
like to fight people. I'm not a fighter. I'm a lover.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Right now, after you guys broke up, Randy tried to
take the name gorgeous George away from you.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yes, why there's the mice show downstairs is his grandpa's name.
He bought it from him for Lanny. We were trying
to micro name for me really fast because this whole
thing about me coming on TV just was within weeks.
And he's like, so we tried all these names and
it's costing us lots of lots of money. And then
(33:11):
he said to me one day we read the swim
Pool and he goes, I don't know what you think
about this, but I own a name and we need
one now, and we got it trademarks and everything. Excuse me,
He goes, how about how about gorgeous George? I said,
I love it? You really, I said, yeah, because it's
(33:31):
George to me. I don't need to cut down all
the Georgia's, but George to me is not a very
hot guy's name, but I think it would be hot
in a girl. And and then I saw the tapes
of Gorgeous George, the original with the blonde hair and
the food food, and that's how I am anyway, and
I was like, I would love to be him. I
would love to be his granddaughter and try to do
good for what he was.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
What led to I guess Randy telling you you can't
use that name anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
He had had me signed papers when we first started
being together, and you know, he knows the legal mumbo jumbo.
And I was pretty young. I had no idea what
was happening. And so after I like my name being George,
he named me he should let me have it right,
you know. And so when the breakup happened, I legally
changed my name to George Frankenstein.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
And that's my name, though I was gonna ask you
where did that name come from?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
My husband's last name is Frankenstein.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
That's a great kick name too.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Nobody forgets me, and I can tell you I'm George
Frankenstein and no one will forget it.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Georsh. Obviously he was Stein. He's Jewish, right Frankenstein.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Right, Well, he's an a. He was an abandon the Misfits, okay,
and he's so he's the wolf came on Frankenstein, so okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Any horror stories when he went on to Ndy scene
after well e c w after that he went on
the Eddy scene, any horror.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Stories from that?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Actually, oh, my Anie shows have been really great. I
mean in my head, I can't remember his of right
now any more stories, but I will tell you sometimes
getting stuck places and people not picking you up and
not paying, you know, and the jack off job they
do it in the scene. But as of like the
indie people, they're humble, they haven't been jaded yet, they
(35:07):
haven't got the star power that they can run around with,
and they are so cool. And all the girls that
I wrestled with are so nice, right, they treat me
so good. I mean they're like, you know, they're like
good friends of mine now. And I like doing the
indie stuff. It's fun, it's a good time.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Damn Pell, you worked for him up in Philly.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I believe those are my favorite chicks, the chicks he's
got running for him. They are good girls. There's a
lot of good talent there too.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Do you remember who you worked with?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Some there?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
But I don't don't.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Bobcat work with Bobcat? Oh god, I can't. What are
the nurses?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I haven't watched his product in so long?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
So yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't even you know.
Actually I just frand scene and mean wrestle and right,
you know, I don't know what his tape looks like.
I don't watch it.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I just go and do the job exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And I don't watch videotapes. I don't care what as
long as I know what I do and I'm comfortable
with it.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Then Jasmine Saint Class, she started promotion three PW. What
are your memories working for her?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I love, I loved Jasmine, she's you know, she gave
me a chance to record her, right, and we have
fun and it's cool. They're always there's always nice to
me if I if I have a problem with something
I don't want to do, they usually work around it.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And you know, right, cool. Now, you missed the last
three p W show you were booked on.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
My uncle's in the hospital with diabetes and he lost
his toes first and then they were going to amputate
his leg. So I only went away for ten days
and ended up staying for twenty.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
And so that has nothing to do with miss and
Jasmine shows.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
It's personal.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's personal. We get a lot of personal things going
on in our family that are a little more heavy. Right,
everybody's getting old, right all at once?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Now, do you expect to go back to three p
W or yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I mean if she's not mad because I missed the show.
I didn't mean to. It was a I had to
be gone.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And you said, you've been a mom. You have twelve
year olds on right, I was gonna ask you how
well this is a question. I thought, how has come?
And a mom changed her outlook on life with wrestling too?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
It's got a lot of things. You know, I dress
sexy and I and I wear sexy clothes and stuff
like that. But I would never want to be in
a program where whether it was WWE or anything. And
I'm not bad mouthing what the other girls do because
or whatever. But when my kids sees me on TV,
he sits at home with his friends in the front
(37:22):
and he's noses Mom's coming on Monday night. They had
a little popcorn and they're watching. I can't go on
there with Latex cities. I mean, not for nothing. But
I am a stripper. I work in strip clubs and
that is an adult and.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
You shall do that today.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I worked for a circuit for Continental and they put
Jen jameson all the hot features go there. But I
would not do nothing. Wrestling should be wrestling for me.
And I want to be, like I said, the ornament
and the helper and you know of a manager. You know,
that's what I would like to be right.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Now. And I believe it was like two thousand, WW
was going to try to do something with Valvenus and
there's rumors that they're gonna try to bring you in.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I heard it a couple of times with nobody called them.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Would would you ever go back there if they ever
approach you? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Second, what was the biggest misconception about yourself? What do
you think the biggest misconception about.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I think everybody thinks that I can't work. I think
that they think that I just got the easy ride
and you know, and that I need to pay dues
or whatever. Maybe it may be. But you know, you're
just gonna give me a chance, you know, put me
through a little bit of schooling, and I mean, you've
seen what I've done before, it can be done better
this time. You know, I'm older, wiser, I know I
(38:41):
know what to do. I've been around the business a
little bit more. It's I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Any good road stories that you can talk about?
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Oh boy, oh boy, I don't even know. I can't.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
What about Ribs? Have you seen any good Ribs? Ribs
jokes being played on people and stuff like that?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
What I myself every time I leave the front door. No. Actually,
most of the boys that I'm with they take care
of me. They like my big brothers. I usually I
have a tendency ange with old timers because they just
feel like it was in my I feel uncomfortable with them,
and a lot of times, like I don't know the
young guys right, and I'm married and stuff, and I
just I don't like to be in the situation where
(39:25):
I feel that I'm saying that the old timers they're
gonna try it too, but I'm also saying that I do.
Is I just feel more comfortable with being on people
that I know. When I was with Randy right right,
I feel like they kind of look out for me
just to had more.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Is there anybody that you never had a chance to
work with that you would love to work with besides China.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Girl Boy either or.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I wanted to work with Jeff Jared and be his ballet.
I wanted to be double G and he'd be double J.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
That would just be a NWT.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
I just tnah. Just when was it not so long ago?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I don't even know that?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I didn't even know that.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, I just did two shows for them.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
How did that work out?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Was it recently like the last thirty days?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
About forty?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Okay? Sure, do you know what they're going to call
you back? I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
What did you do down her.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I just come out. They called me. See I would
like to be called George, right, and they called it
you know I have There's there's little things I just
you know, like to say our toys Tory. I just
want to be my name, right. I want to be George.
They called me something else, and then you know, a
couple of things happened. I don't know what's up. I
really don't.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
No Sables just fired, I guess from w She was
released two weeks ago. Real, Yeah. She did an interview
somewhere and she said, like the wrestling business is very
sexist and stuff like that. Do you agree with her
or disagree?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
It's all what you raise your bar for. I mean
it's it's like it's the wimbo game of life. Right.
I'm a stripper and my shows are clean, and if
I want to do something that's nasty or wrong, she
I gave my I gave that to you. Now what's
my next step?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Right now? What more? Ran?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
She thinks? Do I have to raise my own bar
if I stay, if I stay at a certain level,
and I say this is what I'm going to do.
Look at mali Alli, She's not raising the bar for
herself and nobody's pushing it. I mean, you're making yourself
a sex symbol. Then you can You're going to either
take the heat or you're going to tell them no.
And if they say no, then go get another profession.
(41:26):
And you know, like you know, there's another reason why,
you know, if if if I went to WWE, I
would like to just be able to say that, you know,
I do have kids at home, and my kids I
have a little boy, you know, a little girl, and
I don't. I can't. I can't make them embarrassed, right
you know, or my father right right now?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Back in the day, you did a video, do you
regret it?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Okay, do you have you seen the guy who put
it out?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Or I can't because it's I did it when I
was really young and I was I was actually homeless
when I need the video, and I just worked for
internet company. I had no idea about that and stuff
like that, and then it it just I don't even
had computers back in the day when that happened, and
the guy blew it up and made it into this,
and the macho man sued them and now it's S
(42:13):
and D video and then they keep switching from video.
I don't even know who owns the video, right, And
I was devastated. And not only was I devastated for
those people to take advantage of somebody that was so
young and turn it into something like that is now
that I'm an adult, I hate them people, right. I mean,
to be honest, I'm having the same thing Pamela Anderson
(42:34):
problems and they own the same company, the same tape.
You know. It's just it's a very It's someone's weakness, right,
you know, take from somebody's weakness to do something wrong.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Now, currently you're touring, I guess that you're going with
Danzac or something like that. What's your future plans?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Well, right now, my husband's band is going to be
signed and it's called Corseus Frankenstein.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Right, that's half my name. Half. This is cool, and we.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
We're gonna have really good stuff. I mean, you know,
hopefully it's some of it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
It's you know, are you a singer?
Speaker 2 (43:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Okay? What do you? What do you do?
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I dance? Okay, I'm a stage dancer.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Oh cool? So wow? How long you be doing that for?
As far as like the music.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Stuff, I've always been in and out of it, like
my since I was like seventeen, Like a lot of
bands from where I'm from, I've always been in the
band scene, right, and so now you know, now we're
going to do a dance I think we're leaving September.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Thirteen, so you're actually on tour dancing, right, We're getting
ready to.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Go with tour with dance again. We're going to be
in the bus and then we're done with the dancing tour.
We're going on to it with our band.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Oh cool, awesome, we need to bring up babies.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
We excited?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Really, what's your future plans after the music?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
We're gonna roll this music thing. And I would love
to be able to be who I am, who I
really am instead of you know what I mean, right
for wrestling, because because that's what I'm going to be
for for the band, you know what I mean, like
who I really am? I, you know, instead of somebody
tell me, I would like to just be me. I
think it would get over easier. Any regrets at all,
(44:07):
No regrets, welcome back, do it all again the same way.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Cool. Do you have any questions? Do you have anything
you want to say your fans that you never had
a chance to say.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
To thank you guys, wo be nice to me and always,
you know, always supporting me and stuff like that, and
they'd be great. I mean, I I've been down there,
you know, talking to people the best, you know, two
days now and everybody's awesome.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I didn't know you're gonna be here this weekend. How'd
you get hooked up with this? Oh? My friend Rob
Okay Cool.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
He does my promotions, Rob Hopkin Cool.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Is there anything you want to plug? Any websites or anything?
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Actually, we're gonna open up. But you could look on
the Dancy website, the official website or Dancy and look
under the Blackness of the Black Tour and if you
look under Doyle, which is my husband's name, it'll tell
where the dates are so you'd be able to see.
Because it's just gonna be the first time in twenty
years at the Misfit Died reunion Glenn.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Once in Philly that was back in.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
The day years ago. No, because this is the first
time in twenty years.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Oh no, no, I think I've seen Glenn by himself.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I haven't, guys seen it really, so it's gonna be
He's one of my favorite singers. For Glenn and my
husband to be doing the same thing together, it's gonna
be really very cool. And so yeah, we're gonna tour.
I'm taking the baby, we'll get our own bus, and
we're gonna awesome right behind dancing.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I guess that's it. Thank you for being here today.
Else you want to say, anybody or what? All right? Cool?
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Cool.
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