#104 Riding Through the Unknown w/ Michael Kopf

Michael Kopf is the creator and host of two engaging podcasts: "The Energy That Surrounds Us" and "TETSU: Riding Through the Unknown." In "The Energy That Surrounds Us," Michael delves into the paranormal realm, exploring topics such as ghost hunting, UFOs, portals, interdimensional beings, and mediumship.

In August 2023, following a personal tragedy, Michael launched "TETSU: Riding Through the Unknown," a series that takes listeners on a journey into the esoteric aspects of history and disclosure. This podcast reflects his personal quest for understanding and is designed to raise awareness of topics beyond mainstream discussions.

Michael's dedication to exploring the unexplained has led him to guest host on other paranormal shows, further establishing his presence in the field. His passion for uncovering hidden truths and sharing them with his audience is evident in his work.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yet Stattet.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Hello, everybody, welcome to What the Freak Love. It's another
Friday night. I'm your host, Emily. Have my other host
with me tonight, Will Martinez. What's up?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Will, Good evening?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm doing good. I'm sorry. I'm not camera tonight, everybody,
I do not. I didn't have water until about an
hour ago, so I'm gonna spare you seeing me without
a shower. So it's a blessing in a lot of
ways that I'm not on camera tonight. Thank you for

(03:43):
everybody for tuning in. Hopefully you had an amazing week.
And speaking of weather, that's why I don't have water,
because we've been so cold in Florida. You go to Florida,
tell us what's going on in Florida? Will, did you
get snow?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
No, Pensacle of Beach, we got snow which is in
near the panhandles, so they got snow up there, but
we don't get snow down here. I mean it would take,
you know, a little bit more of an impact for
it to have snow over here. So no, we didn't
have anything. But the lizards are falling from the trees,
so that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
That happens during this time of year, especially when there's
cold snaps like this. They're iguanas. We have an infestation
of the iguanas here in South Floria. If you don't know,
they're everywhere and so like during the summertime you see
them everywhere, but right now, since it's cold, they what
happens is they freeze and they get paralyzed and they
fall from the tree and they look like they're dead,
but they're not dead. They're just like in a combo

(04:35):
too state. So yeah, that's been happening here in South Flora.
That's what's going on here.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah, they come right back to life absolutely. Yeah, they
go into like a hibernation stage. Yeah, and they just
like fall from trees and yeah, they'll fall right in
front of you. You wouldn't even know. They won't even They
look like you're dead, but they're not dead.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Wow. Do you have any in your.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
H I don't have it in the yard. But there
has been no iguanas at all. Me and my daughter
were just talking about it. I was like, hey, have
you seen anyway? She's like nope. She's like now since
like October.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
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(06:15):
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(06:36):
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(07:19):
Fringe Radio. What's going on over there at Dark Fringe.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
We actually officially got on TikTok last week, so we're
on there so slowly but surely to be putting out
you know, shorts on there and reels and stuff like that.
So make sure you check us out at Dark friend
Trader there, on TikTok and everywhere else pretty much as
far as your social's concern Facebook, Instagram and now TikTok.

(07:43):
We're not on x anymore, but yeah that you can
check us out there. And this tomorrow we actually have
a new episode coming out with an interview with Paul Nugent.
He's the author of a book called Meyer Meyer and
he is the head of the Ethereas Society, and it's
a society that's based out of the UK, and it's

(08:04):
kind of like it's a different type of religion. It's
not really based on any other type of religion, but
it's really highly on fit you know, prayer based type
of healing and things of that nature. So it's a
really interesting conversation. He actually was a student of George King,
who was like the head yogi in the Western world

(08:27):
back in the fifties and sixties, and so he learned
a lot of you know, shamanic type of you know
type of you know, breathing exercises and and meditations, and
he's able to kind of channel things like that. Really
interesting conversation. So check it out Darkfriderdia dot com.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, I will definitely be checking that out. You're on
my list always. I listened to him when it comes up.
I have a big, huge list stuff. But your shows
are really good too, will so please everybay go to
dark Friend radio dot com and check that out. And
so anyway, it is podcast month. We're returning to podcast months.
Last week was a little bit break because we had

(09:05):
a reschedule a guest. We talked about the New York
City Mafia, the sanitary department up there. But tonight we
have one of my friends on Michael. He's the creator
of two podcasts, The Energy That surrounds Us and Riding
through the Unknown, which I happened to be a guest
on Riding through the Unknown The Energy surrounds Us, Michael

(09:25):
doves into the paranormal realm, exploring topics such as ghost tuning,
UFOs portals, intermental beings, and mediumship in August of twenty
twenty three. I hope this is Craig Michael. You can
correct me when I bring you on. He did launch
Riding through the Unknown. It's a series that takes listeners
on a journey into esoteric aspects of history and disclosure.

(09:46):
Michael's dedication to exploring the unexplained has led him to
guest hosts on other paranormal shows as well. So let's
bring Michael onto the show to right now. Hello, Michael,
welcome to What the Frick Live?

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yes, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Thank you justice.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
And you delivered it perfectly.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yay. Well, welcome to this side of the realm. I
don't know if you will like it or actually you'll
like it. It'll be fine. So we appreciate you, Michael.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Well, I appreciate that it worked out. I was available
and able to help out.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yes, thank you. So podcast month, so I did a
little introduction and so, as always, your first time guest
on What the Freak Live, and hopefully you'll be a
guest on future episodes too. But real quick, can you
tell us a little bit about your background, because I
do know that you had like a personal experience that happened.
Can you just tell the folks a little bit more
about you and then we'll move forward.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Sure, I was born on Earth, way way back and
you know stone Age, not just kidding, I uh come
from a metaphysical background. My squirrel outside my parents. My

(11:10):
parents blessed us with the abilities to pick and choose
what we wanted to be interested in and believe in.
So I attended to gravitate towards the metaphysics and had
a funny story actually about being at church that I

(11:32):
can share later. But so, growing up in metaphysics, I
was exposed to a lot of things like channeling, mediumships,
tore readings, all kinds of different modalities. And it wasn't
until I was in my late thirties early forties that

(11:58):
I was in a Facebook group about the paranormal and
we would be chatting about, you know, how it would
react and everything. And I was at a conference meeting
for an organization and I get back to my room
and my phone is buzzing and I'm like, you know,
who's reaching out to me because they know I'm on

(12:21):
a conference and don't really have good WiFi. And it
was someone asking me if I wanted to join a
paranormal team, and I was like, and so I messaged
him back and said, you know, this is funny, you know,
because I've always had an interest, I've had an interest
in the paranormal, but I believe this was all on TV,

(12:46):
and so is this for real? And they messaged me
back it was like, yeah, we're a real team. We
really go to places and investigate. I was like, I'm
in and so that's how I got started, and it's
been an interesting write ever since. And I can tell
you I never thought when I started getting into the

(13:11):
paranormal that I would be not only the creator of
two podcast shows, but co hosting another podcast show. So
that's been an adjustment for the past three years getting
used to that.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Well, we appreciate you and me. Being a guest on
your show was a lot of fun and interesting. I
was like, I didn't know about you. I hate to
say this in the beginning, which it's okay, like there's
a lot there's so many podcasts people we don't know
each other. But being on your show and getting to
know you it was super fun. You're super informative, You're amazing,

(13:53):
and I highly recommend anybody to go and support Michael's shows,
and I have his links and stuff up here, but
real quick YouTube, it's at What's Tetsu? By the way.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
So I am a fan of acronyming, and so it
actually is the energy that surrounds us is the umbrella
show that I do the series under. So instead of
writing out the energy that surrounds us writing through the unknown,

(14:32):
I just took the first letter of each of the
words and it made tetsu. And something told me one
day I was like, what is tetsu? And I looked
it up and it's actually the Japanese word for iron.
So I was like, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
That's cool, that's awesome. Well, your shows are fantastic. You
have amazing guests on and we're thankful to have you
on as a guest this month for podcast Month because
we always support other podcasters in the beginning of each year,
and I highly highly recommend everybody go follows pages and

(15:10):
listen to shows. But thank you for telling us a
little bit about yourself. Will do you have any follow
up questions or yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
I want to hear about this personal experience I got
you into all this.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah, So what happened was when I was two years old,
I was in a house up north, and so if
you're familiar with homes in the north, we have basements. Well,

(15:40):
I was on the second floor and my parents were around,
and it's winter time, so I'm dressed for going out
in the snow with those lovely seventy early eighties poofy
you know winter outfits you can remember. And I'm walking

(16:05):
and I'm up on the second floor and my mom
had put plywood over a vent opening. Well, somehow, when
I got to the vent opening, the plywood was gone.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
It wasn't there. So I'm leaning over looking what you know,
down this shaft and next thing I know, I feel
something on my arms and I get pulled in. And

(16:40):
a friend of mine helped me recover this part of
my memory years later when she informed me that they
accidentally pulled me into the shaft. And I was like, oh,
this is great, where's this going? But what was interesting
about it is falling down a shaft. You know, from

(17:06):
second story, first story to the concrete basement. You can
imagine how fast that trek really was. The reason I
point this out is I had retrieved a memory years

(17:27):
later before I knew about the being pulled in of
having a conversation with a bean while I'm going down
the shaft and talking with them about what the future
is gonna look like, what my role is, what gifts
do I have, How am I gonna, you know, be

(17:49):
able to activate them? How you know, what's all this
mapped out gonna look like? And then hit the concrete,
get up, walk away with no broken bones, no damage, nothing,
just kind of like you'd almost say, like a you know,

(18:10):
no big deal. And I'd never thought about how I
landed without hurting myself. And then someone told me about
the bean and I said yeah, and then we had
this conversation and I started to realize, One, it's impressive
I had this conversation at two, But there's no way

(18:35):
I could have had that conversation in the amount of
time it took me from entering the chat to hitting
the basement slab. And I was left with one mark
to remind me of this story, and that is my

(18:56):
eyebrow has a spot where a wire nicked me and
the hair does not grow in that spot. So I
was like, every time I would see that, it would
kind of I'd always be like, why do I have
this mark? And so I've been unfolding the full story

(19:16):
of it, and where I remember talking with the one bean.
A friend in Greece informed me the bean that I
was talking to is not the bean that pulled me in.
Another bean came and took me from that bean, and

(19:38):
that's who I talked to. And I was like telling
this story on a show and I was like, everyone's
like wow. And one of my guests goes, you know,
you're overlooking a really incredible thing, and I was like,
what you know? I thought I covered everything, And she goes,
how did you understand those aliens at too or whoever

(20:01):
that was that helped you? And I was like, you know,
I never thought about that. So it's that's why I
love doing the paranormal is because it it's like a
puzzle that unfolds as you go on and you investigate
more and you experience more, you gain more memory of stuff,

(20:23):
and yeah, it's like a giant mystery and you get
to solve it at some point.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
HM.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
That's really interesting that you say that, because you know,
I feel the same way when it comes to paranormal investigating.
You know, it's it's you know, it's a buzzlebox. It's
just a little but a little unfolding, like you said,
and that's, you know, that's a good way of explaining it.
One thing I wanted to ask you, you know, since
a lot of things have been happening lately, what is
your opinion about the new supposedly information that's going to

(20:55):
be coming out. Since you like to talk about historical
stuff and esoteric things of that nature, about the new
information that's supposed to be coming out about the jfk
assassination and all that stuff, what's your opinion on that?

Speaker 5 (21:08):
So I feel like that's something that's long overdue and
it'll be interesting to see if we really do get
it all and not to get And I'll try not
to get political with this, but there are some factions

(21:30):
that are trying to not divulge what's supposed to be divulged,
and they're fighting it.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
And the only thing I have to say about that,
in my opinion is.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
If it's just a file, why not divulge it. What's
in that stuff?

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Though?

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Well, that's what I mean is what are you hiding?
Because now you got people's attention because you don't want
to release this, that means you're hiding something. What are
you hiding? And so people now start really looking at
them and going and it's like, you know, if you're
not wanting the attention, you're going about it the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
You know why. I don't want to understand myself JFK.
I cried when this happened, that possibly this could happen
not just for JFK but RFK and MLK. You know,
these are so really weird, the initials of each individual
and the things that they did to these men during
this time. But for Robert F. Kennedy Junior to finally

(22:42):
get everything on his uncle and his dad, regardless, hope
he gets that stuff and he doesn't have to disclose
even if we don't. If he gets everything that he needs,
that'sn't good enough for me, Like he deserves to have that.
The family deserves to have answers, right, and.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
I to me, I thought the best tribute to him
too was the bill that was signed to release everything.
The pen the president always when they signed something just
hands the pen to somebody in the room and says,
here you go. And he took that pen and said

(23:20):
to his aid, this is for R. FK Junior. Absolutely,
I was like that alone is like I was like
I wanted to cry at that because I was like, man,
that's the pen that brought justice to his family.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Hopefully Daddy Bush is dad. So I'm hoping that they're
going to release a lot more because he was over
the CIA and things when all this stuff went down.
I really want nine to eleven documents to be released, honestly, Yeah,
I don't think so either. Epstein files I don't think
will ever happen either, because a lot of people are

(23:57):
still alive on that and they still use it for blackmail.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Well, I read somewhere that the executive order that was
signed to release JFK, RFK Junior MLK also had a
stipulation about nine to eleven and those in it. So
it was like a blanket everything kind of document. And

(24:25):
so a lot of people are saying, yeah, it wasn't
just the three big names that everybody puts at the front.
There was some other stuff that he had thrown in there,
kind of to surprise people.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
We'll see what happens. I will say this, They have
fifteen days to come up with the game plan to
release JFK. I've already seen stuff on X and everything
coming out with all these phony propaganda documents. Those are
not real. That they got fifteen days for JFKA. I
got forty five days for RFK and MLK, So like,

(25:04):
please do not share that stuff out from here to there.
There's so many people out there. They'll do anything for
lives and shares and stuff for money. It's sad.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
You see, since we've been in this game for a
long time, we always see this happen every time something's
gonna come out. You always see stuff that comes out
early and they say that they have to scoop on something.
That's bullshit, So excuse my language, And that happens every time,
every time.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Every single time. It's not true, So please do not
share this out. We got another two possibly three weeks
actually honestly for JFK stuff for a plan for them
to release it, so I'd almost think that they get
it all together. They're saying, Okay, we're gonna release it
on this date.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Well, and my curiosity was when they release it, how
much are they going to black out and say, oh, well,
we couldn't release that information. It's like, so is it
going to be like a one word page and go
that's here.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
And I was listening to someone that said Hey, even
if it is redacted, at least you got something that
you can go on.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, Michael, how about this. I don't know if you
saw the headline. I don't know if it was today
or yesterday. I think I saw it either today or
yes dor, I can't remember. But there was a politician
that came out and stead that they're actual underwater UFOs
the size of about one hundred yards that can go
like light speed underwater. And that came out today or yesterday.

(26:34):
And that's a big thing, you know, for somebody, and
you know, those circles to come out with something like
that to say, and it's pretty ballsy. You think there's
more disclosure coming out now, and you think we'll ever
find out the whole truth about you know, Area fifty
one and all that stuff that you know that we've
covered up in the past.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
So I have an interesting theory around what's being disclosed
right now, and that is they're disclosing stuff that if
you've been following all of this, you're already aware of,
and it's a distraction from something else. And so it's
like the magician's trick of watch this hand not the

(27:18):
other hand, and then boom the magic trick reveals itself.
And so I've kind of been steering clear of watching
the hearings because I was like, yeah, they're you know,
when I first started hearing about them, it was like
stuff we'd heard years ago, and they're saying this is

(27:39):
our proof, and it's like, yeah, none about that. Some
of that's been disproven by now through these sources, but yeah, it's,
you know, something out there. And the fact that they're
now talking about the underwater, I think is kind of
actually an interesting thing because I had never thought about

(28:04):
this until I watched a TV series called Sequest DSB.
I don't know if you all remember that from the
I think it was the nineties, But we all look
to space and we look at our planet and we
figure there's nowhere left really unexplored here. We know, you know,

(28:26):
there could be a few islands out there, but we
know what's you know, laying who owns what you know?
And everything? And then SeaQuest comes out and goes the
true last Frontier underwater, and it's like, yeah, living underwater

(28:49):
seems so far fetched that it was like, how did
we never realize we never really explored our oceans? We
just assumed there were fish that was it, And it's like,
we're finding ruins in the oceans, and so I feel

(29:13):
like that was a big thing that I don't know
if it was our you know, Hollywood or something that
took and mind works us to comes out in hoods
right and forget about the oceans. We don't need to
look in the oceans. And it's like, so, what's in

(29:35):
the oceans we don't want to know about.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
I got an interesting story about bringing a triangle one
day I'll talk about. But I have the sequest DSV
flagship of the UEO Season one, episode one two. This
is just a two minute, thirty forty second clip here.
I've never seen this, but so let's just play this
clip real quick and show people what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
We are as guardians for beneath the surface, Last.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Future, Nada, not a little bit flat on my end.
This predicative programming is that what we want to call it.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
We always say that it would come out of Hollywood first, right.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
I kind of feel like it's disclosure of you know,
we can living underwater there give these civilizations living underwater.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
In fifty.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
The really cool thing about this shift was a dolphin
could swim in the ocean, come on board, interact with
the bridge crew, and a teenager built a system where
it could translate the clicks into words and so they

(31:16):
could have round all that.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Now.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
Yeah, but I mean think about when this came out.
This was back in early nineties. Yeah, so this was
way far ahead on its jectory and hyperreality probes where
it VR.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Look and if they're doing this stuff in Hollywood in
the nineties, imagine our advanced military. They already have these devices.
I think I think they've already made these devices. Like
if Hollywood can make this stuff and make it look real,
imagine what they can really do in real life.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
I know. I mean I was like just watching the
show and I was it was like, wow.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Dude, the water scares me.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Captain, we have torpedo lock.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Isn't that the Jaws guy?

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Hell yeah, dolls all about the water.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Jonathan Brandis was in it.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Jonathan Brandis was, Yeah, I'm gonna have to watch this stuff.
I have not ever heard of this.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yeah, this came out a long time ago.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Jonathan Brandis played Lucas Wallachik, who developed the system for
Darwin to communicate. Wait, not like other gates.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Is this where they're communic game with the dolphin. Yeah,
I hear what is first, dude. I there's so much
that's a good clip. There so much I don't know
about that show. So I'm definitely gonna have to look
this up and go down that rabbit hole.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
It was three seasons long, actually, and they dealt with
space too, aliens that would crash in the ocean and
they had to well like and go to other planets.
There was an absolute.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Oh this is I'd have to have more alcohol than
wine to say this. Did I say this? I don't
believe in space per se as of a sky. I
believe space above us is like the waters of the ocean,
like it has the same atmosphere of the waters, like
whatever you hear like. And this goes to my flipping

(33:26):
Bermuda Triangle issue that I had because my pastor of
my church, Pastor Garland, before he passed away back in
the eighties, he went down and he went to the
Bermuda Triangle and he did this big, huge investigation in
Boma Triangle, went down in submarines and everything, and you
can hear all this stuff, like they told me. I

(33:46):
wasn't ready for this information back when I was little.
This was on a trax. He might have done this
in the seventies. I don't know when A tracks are popular,
but I was hearing these A tracks and it sounded
like chains rattling. It sounded like moaning war war like
all this kind of different stuff there. So then when
NASA released the black hole communication stuff that happened. What

(34:10):
was it last year? A year before last did they
released that black hole? I'll look it up and listen
to it. It sounded It brought me back to when
I was eighteen years old and heard those A tracks
for the first time ever. It sounded just like the
waters of the bringing to triangle. So I feel like
the atmosphere of space is almost like the same atmosphere

(34:31):
of the water.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Well it could be, depending on where the sound is
being transferred through, because sound waves have their own frequency
and the atmosphere around themselves, and so when you're picking
them up, you're going to hear the vibration that it's

(34:54):
traveling on. And so that's why they were saying, like
Tesla and all these other people are like, you know,
we can transmit this is it signal wirelessly from America
to say, China or to Afghanistan clearly, because it's a

(35:18):
frequency wave, not a signal like we think, where it's
going through a line and going through all this stuff
and it degrades over time and so it's like muffled
on one end.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well, this is when I heard this sound, which I
was not thinking of freaking the Bermuda triangle. Okay. When
I heard this sound played for the first time, this
was two years ago. It brought me back to that
sound and the sound that I heard. And I need
to ask my youth pastor Jim Hannis about this, because

(35:53):
he's the one that let me listen to the tapes
and he kept saying, I don't think you're ready for this.
I don't think you're ready for this. I was eighteen.
I'm like, I want to listened to it. I just
want to hear it. And it heard a lot of
more like chains rattling and stuff. It is really super weird,
like it was like an underground society that might be prison,
which we have water bound spirits, but overall the background

(36:13):
of this and the water, the waves that come in
and how it gets it sounded just like those tapes
off off of the A track that I heard from
my pastor that went down there. So listen to this
is about thirty five seconds exactly.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
There was more like more.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Actually probably under But when they release that, my mind
went exactly back to those tapes of for me to triangle.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
Well, then what's interesting to me about that is unless
I'm remembering my science wrong, and believe me, I wasn't
an excellent science student, so it's quite possive.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
To say something about sound.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Yeah, that black holes were absorbing everything, so how is
it transmitting something so that would defy our definition of
a black hole.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Well, the thing is too, is that I just went
through the Bible in here a little bit is that
when Earth was created and everything they separated. We have
the firmament separated the waters from above from the waters below.
So when I heard that sound, that just confirmed to
me that that scripture, in my personal belief and my

(37:54):
understanding and things that that confirmed that the same waves
of of over the firmament are the same waves no
pun intended, of the oceans below. It's all the same,
it sounds the same, it's on the same length, it's
on the same sound board.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
So there is another way you can look at that too.
I don't know how far into a rabbit hole you
want to go on?

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I want to go. This is interesting to me. This
I don't know will is how do you feel about
all that? Let's go.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
You're saying waters above a layer as well as below. Well,
there's an ocean in the center of the earth, right,
so if you're on an island in the center of
the earth and then you go to the waters above,
that'll be our layer. And so you haven't reached actual

(38:53):
space yet. And so.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I'm wondering, is that everybody take a drink right now?

Speaker 7 (39:03):
Everybody theory if you look, if you listen to the
theory that the inner Earth theory, you know what I mean,
that's what that's what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
So there's a lot of conjecture about inner Earth is
where a lot of our quote gods are.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
In many aspects, I agree with that.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
And so if you're going by their word, then yes,
the waters where they're at separated and created their world.
Then there's the waters of where we're at. And so
they left it there because I think if they were
to keep going and saying okay, and then there was

(39:53):
this vast openness, people would get lost or confused and
so the they left it just the basic so that
they could relate to everyone. And I mean to be honest,
I didn't know about the oceans in the center of
the earth. I always thought it was magma, that's it.

(40:16):
And I gotta admit, you know, watching sci fi, watching
you know, reading a lot of things. You know, we
go into caves, and what do we see when we
go into caverns, you know that are like a few

(40:38):
hundred feet deep water? Yeah, and so why.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Can't in that cave and everything here in Kentucky, like
in Carter Caves and all that stuff. Everything when you
go so far down deep into the cave, it's all water, right.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
And you get some notes that are waters. And there's
the famous loose spot in the Yucatan where it's a
different color blue because there's no bottom. They haven't been
able to send anything down deep enough yet and retrieve
it to know how deep it really is. And so

(41:15):
it's interesting to me, and it leads credence to there
is oceans between us because our water's got to come
from somewhere. We don't have enough rain fall around to
keep these oceans full. Where's that water coming from?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
It's a dog barking folks.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
I thought that was the video that was mine.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
No, I'm not playing this sound on the video. Will
I'll go back and play this. I found this. It
said scientists just discover the vast in the ocean inside Earth.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
That there was a vast ocean beneath the Earth's surface
of an underwater world has driven plenty of science fiction,
but now one group of researchers says it's not too
far from science fact. They discovered an area inside the
Earth's surface that's believed to hold many times more water
than the rest of the Earth's oceans combined. If it

(42:18):
turns out to be accurate, arm models of how water
appeared on Earth might need serious revisions. It would also
be in turning point in our understanding of the interior
of the Earth. But the intriguing question is how they
found evidence about this undiscovered ocean. What led them to
propose such a radical idea. The answer is a rare

(42:41):
piece of diamond discovered earlier in twenty twenty two. This
diamond was found in a diamond mind in Botswana, Africa.
When it was analyzed, researchers found that it originated six
hundred and sixty kilometers or four hundred and ten miles
below the Earth's surface. The depth at which the diamond
was formed is at the deepest part of the transition zone,

(43:04):
the boundary layer separating the Earth's upper mantle from the
lower mantle. Minerals found in areas lower in the transition zone,
closer to the Earth's core are denser and less likely
to move like the tectonic plates closer to the Earth's surface.
While analyzing the contents of this stone, the researchers notice
something unusual. They found that this piece of diamond contained

(43:28):
ringwoodite with hydrous phases, which means it is rich in water,
and the transition zone is a wet environment. Most of
the Earth's surface is covered with oceans, yet considering the
thousands of kilometers between the surface and the planet's core,
they're barely a puddle. Even at its deepest point. The

(43:48):
ocean is just shy of eleven kilometers or seven miles
thick from the wavetops to the floor. But Earth's crust
is cracked and fragmented with separate tectonic plates that grind
together and slip under each other's edges. Water seeps deeper
into the planet at these subduction zones, reaching as far
as the lower mantle. Over time, it makes its way

(44:12):
back to the surface via volcanic activity. This cycle is
known as the deep water cycle, separate from the water
cycle active at the surface. The knowledge of the deep
water cycle and the quantity of water present down there
is essential to understand the geological activity of our planet.
For example, the presence of water can influence the explosiveness

(44:34):
of a volcanic eruption and play a critical role in
seismic activity. Since we cannot go down there, we have
to wait for the evidence of water to come to us,
as it does in the form of diamonds that form
crystal cages in extreme heat and pressure. The team used
micro rum in spectroscopy and X ray diffraction to probe

(44:57):
the diamond real quick.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
So are we saying that the water is so far
deep in the Earth's layers due to grab like the
change of land and the pool, like all these earthquakes
that take place and all that stuff. Is this how
we're trying to get to this level?

Speaker 6 (45:14):
Now?

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Because this we're halfway through this clip. It's a six
minute clip. I didn't know it was this long while
we're going into it. But that kind of makes a
lot of sense. Now if we're having all these earthquakes,
like how many earthquakes we have.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
A day.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Around the world, and massive one that changes the earthplates
to make water be pushed down further into those layers.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
And you know, and I also pointed, you know, made
me think about something I had not thought about before,
and that is when we look at like Hawaii, for example,
lava is coming up, it sits on the surface, landforms
out of it. Well, that's it's ash, it's black where

(46:02):
you know who when the earth was formed, came out
and seated the fields and said, okay, we're gonna put
trees here and get this grass going here. You know,
these flowers here, Where did those seeds come from? Because
molten lava does not carry seeds, So if the molten

(46:28):
lava is hardening, there would be you know, the ashes
up there. Who you know started the you know process
of life.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yeah, the seeding.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, well I got that answer, But every believes differently.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
Well no, no, but I mean that's just you know,
it's another thing of where I say, you know, there's
so much of our world we don't think about and
don't in retrospect. We don't even give a second thought
to was you know, yeah, you know life, you know,

(47:14):
in the center of the earth. Okay, God is either
in the heavens above or in her earth, you know,
wherever you want to put him or her or both
however many. But it makes me wonder some of the trees,

(47:37):
you know, with the pangaea and everything's separating a part,
how everything fits together in the puzzle piece to make Pangaea.
Some of the continents are a little off shaped, and
so it makes me, you know, I have to sit

(47:58):
there and wonder, you know, how much you know manipulation
was done to create the land the way it is.
And if we are constantly moving, I understand, you know
when they say like maybe inches over a year.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Well they also said, yeah, no, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
Michael.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
You're you're onto something there too. But you know, I
always heard that explanation of you know, the birds actually
eating the seeds and then flying over to different sections
of you know, areas, and then pooping, and then those
seeds are still in the poop and then that's how
these things get moved around a lot, especially when the
earth was more together, you know, back then, as one plate,

(48:48):
then it is separated. Now, that's what they said that
if you look at all the edge like the edges
of you know, these these these these continents, a lot
of the same plants are and those edges right.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
But my question to you would be is what were
the birds eating? Because if it's ash, what seed did
they in their system come from? And secondly, where did
the bird come from? And not to get biblical, but

(49:23):
there is a part of the Bible, in the Book
of Genesis that I feel like a lot of people
don't pay attention to, and that's the story of creation.
You have Adam and Eve supposedly the only two humans
on the planet. They're in the garden, they leave the garden.

(49:46):
They have two sons. Cananabel? Then it says, Cananabel married
women of other tribes? Wait a second, Adam and Eve
are the only people on the planet, they had two sons.
Where did these women and other tribes come from? All
of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I believe it's nephyl.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
Right, But it's it's like, you know, people will say, oh, you.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Know, the bloodline is contributed to every tribe in the
Bible period and they still exist to this day. In
my opinion, so you know, and Adam and Eve were
created half spirit half man also, so you know they
didn't come from a womb. It's like Jesus the Baptist

(50:40):
gets really mad at me when I tell him Jesus
is a half breed. I live in the Bible belt.
The Baptists cannot handle that.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
Like they can.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Now. Well, I say half breed too, but hybrid that.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Breed has a bad connotation, derogatory term breed.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
But it's it's funny though you think about like, Okay,
I don't know who it was. It was Da Vinci
or one of the guys, right, those famous artists at
that time. But when they, I guess they drew Adam
and Eve, and they when they drew Adam, they gave
him a they gave him a belly button, Like, well,
if he was supposed to be born out of just nothing,
how does he have a belly button? I means he

(51:34):
would have an abil accord attached at some point, right right,
h It's these these are the kind of questions you
kind of ask you stuff. It's just like you know,
you see these you know, things that artists drew that
are things are from the Bible you're.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Like, hm, hm, was that their own like, you know,
and interpretation maybe.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Maybe, I don't know. Maybe.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
But here's the other thing that's interesting is you look
at the Greeks. Zeus, king of the gods, gets a headache.
The goddess Athena is born of that headache. Okay, that's
you know, reasonable for gods. Then you go to Adam
and Eve that are supposed to be humans. Adam has

(52:29):
a piece of a rib removed forms a woman, marries
this woman, has kids with this woman. In essence, has
married himself because it was his rib. He married his
half fret Sol started off of a.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Very adamant about that one rib. You know, it's interesting, right, yeah, they.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
Call it the atoms apple. It's for the rest of
the life, you know. I actually found myself thinking about
the story of the Tree of Knowledge, and everybody just

(53:33):
you know, blindly goes, Oh, the serpent, you know, tricked
them into eating the apple and your regardless of who
plucked the apple. And I sat there and I was
thinking about this and going, you know, we supposedly have
a god who wants us to learn and grow, but

(53:55):
yet is forbidding us the fruit that will help us
learn and grow? Why what? What does he not want
us to know? That He forbids the fruit of knowledge
and some.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
People and evil, good and evil when you eat that fruit.
Look look at all the rabbit holes we go down.
Is it true?

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Is it not?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Is it fake? Is it not? It makes us question.
Knowledge is a good thing in many aspects, but it
can also be self inflicted wound to yourself because there's
so much knowledge out there now, so much stuff to
and fro. Which that's biblical scripture too, like in the
last days, that knowledge will be upon the land and
everybody go to and fro and they won't know what

(54:43):
the truth really is. And this is you know with that,
But back to Hollywood real quick. We call them free
free Martins. Have y'all heard of free Martins? Adam Apple,
Adam's apple where they they manipulate the female or male gene.

(55:07):
Why it's in the mother's womb and they come out
half half breed. That is half breed. Actually, Like there's
a lot of celebrities that have a lot of females
that have the Adams apple. If you look at Megan
Fox is a big person about that. She even talked
about on one of her interviews that she's man, but

(55:27):
she holds the women's organs to have babies, and it's
vice versa. And this is something that they do in
the deep state, Illuminati, sign your life over. Whatever you
want to call him. In Hollywood, you can just simply
Paris Hilton is one of them. Paris Hilton, yeah, is

(55:51):
one with the Adams Apple. Just look at the Adams
Apple of a woman. Now. I will tell you this though,
with thyroid issues that I have, like I'm getting ready
to get my thyroids all out of whack. I've gained
so much more weight and stuff, so we're reevaluating. But
I look like I have an Adam's Apple, but it's
from my thyroid being so large, So I don't know disease.

(56:12):
All these women, there's countless women though, have thyroid issues
that we don't know about. I'm telling you, I'm a woman.
I'm not a man.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
I could tell you I'm forty five years old and
I didn't hear nothing about thyroid issues when I was
a kid growing up. I never heard of anybody any
of that. But maybe it's just because science hadn't caught
up yet, or maybe I don't know, but I never
heard of that until later on in life. Then people
talk about thyroid issues.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Well, I've had I had it a lot, and I
have thyroid eye disease that makes my eyes like bulge
out a lot at times, especially when I'm having a
flare up. And so my thyroid's acting up right now
as we speak, and I have the doctor's appointment next
week or actually more I have an ultrasound next week

(56:59):
to get more testa and to see what's going on
because I have a lot of nodules on my thyroid.
So I'm sitting here thinking, like, I look like a
what did I say a few minutes ago? What they
call him a free free uh mart free Martin. I
look like a free Martin right now, I probaise you.
I'm not free Martin. So is all these women like

(57:23):
do they have thyroid issues? Like, so, what's going on
with their lives? There's tons of women celebrities that have this,
even oh, just recently Jennifer Aniston, all the dramas Barack
Obama going on Jennifer Aniston, a lot of people are like, well,
she's a man, She's a man. All this kind of
stuff coming out. I don't know if she's a man

(57:43):
or not. I never looked into that, but I well,
I looked at her neck. Her neck looks a lot
like mine. I'm like, does she have thyroid issues?

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Well, what's going on is okay? So when we look
at the six teen seventeen hundreds, food was you know,
being introduced, that's new to diets, and if you were wealthy,
you had more of it. What was going on, people

(58:15):
would get gout because their body couldn't process it because
it was foreign to them. So gout became the rich
Man's disease. Then advance on, we're used to it, so
gout pretty much almost disappears. There's still I think a
few cases of it here and there, but it's no

(58:37):
longer called the rich Man's disease. And we learn, okay,
we can salt products that'll help everything stay better. Well,
we can add butter for flavor, we can add this,
we can add that, food stayed longer, learned refrigeration, we

(59:02):
learned ways to help the food. Then the world goes
into crisis mode and food becomes scarce because we got
to feed the troops. And don't get me wrong, I'm
not discounting the troops. I have a lot of respect
for troops. But what happened is the people in the

(59:28):
home front. We're starting to get chemicals to replace the
nutrition of the foods and being told this is a
better option, it's cheaper, you can make more of it,
you can do you can make this when you want.
It won't ever go bad on you. And the people

(59:51):
loved it. Well, again, our bodies aren't designed to ingest chemical.
So what's happening is we're getting sick from it and
medicine is going well, if we give you this for that,

(01:00:12):
we now have a side effect, so you get a
monotony of those. So everything is layered in and it's
all around. They're wanting to create their own what they
view the features should look like, who and what should

(01:00:32):
be going in? What, how should it work? And so
we've been manipulated without our knowing on so many levels.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Well, I have one last question to ask you, Michael,
and then I'll have Will do a last question too.
We have about a few minutes left here on what
the Freak Claude. We thank you everybody for tuning in,
especially on Rumble. We have some comments and stuff over there.
Thank you so much for tuning in. But you know,
we've talked about all kinds of different topics this evening
that I didn't even plan on talking about, which that's

(01:01:06):
how it always goes. If you have if you're a
host of a podcast, you know, and this is podcast,
but so we highly support your podcasts and what you're doing.
So real quick, my last question for you, and then
if Will has any questions for you. You know, a
lot of times we start our podcast of on our
own personal experiences that we've had, and you shared that

(01:01:28):
in the beginning of our show this evening. But if
somebody wanted to start exploring the unknown and things or
or maybe possibly start a podcast, can you tell them
maybe possibly where they should begin, how how they how
they should put some things together, because a lot of
times we have hosts on we don't get to that

(01:01:50):
point of like how to start a podcast, how we
can help others to begin their own journey and having
guests on their show, can you tell them a little
bit about some advice about.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
The sure And I'll use my series right in through
the Unknown, because that's exactly what that is, is exactly
what you're asking. And so I have for many years
research topics that you wantn't find on normal podcast, you

(01:02:21):
wantn't find on the news, but it's stuff that interests me.
And so unfortunately my father had passed away that June
and August. I decided I'm going to do a series
because he enjoyed my delving into the subject matter and

(01:02:46):
how I could relate it to other people. And so
I then started looking at what topics do I want
to discuss? Who do I know that can talk about
those topics with me? Because I'm not an expert, so
no one's going to listen to me for an hour.
So I went and did research and found people who

(01:03:10):
specialized in you know, for example, like Brad Olsen, really
great guest if you want to hear about Antarctica. He's
been there, something I may never achieve. So I was like,
that'd be really cool to be able to share on
the show and experience many people may not get. So
that's what you do is you start gathering those together

(01:03:34):
and then look at what is my goal of the series,
And for me, it's just to educate and to share
my journey and what I'm interested in. And so that's
where the show's able to evolve is when you're finding
topics you like and want to talk about, you can

(01:03:57):
host him. That is probably the easiest way I can
explain starting a podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
M h absolutely and the and the rabbit holes you
go down, start looking those people up, seeing who talks
about and bring them. Ask. The worst thing that can
say is no, ask as many people as possible. When
What the Freak Last started, That's what I did, I
asked so many people. I was denied so many times
because everybody wants to pay put their emphasis on views.

(01:04:31):
The thing is now, with What the Freak Live, we
don't get that many views. I don't really publish that
that much. We get a lot with podcast downloads, so
you know, but never give up. Keep asking and will
if you have any other last questions to ask Mike.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
No, no, no other questions.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
I'm just I continue listen, Continue to success on your shows.
You know, keep doing what you're doing. I always say,
you know, and Emily probably will attest to this and
going on to it if we asked earlier. You know,
we're talking about doing a podcast. Consistency. Consistency is the key, yeah,
number one, And that's that's the hardest thing to keep

(01:05:08):
going because a lot of times you will get caught up,
and there will be days that you said to yourself, Hey,
I really don't want to do a podcast, but you
know what, you gotta do it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
You know what I mean. You gotta keep going.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
You gotta keep going, gotta keep going. So's I can
probably add to that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
One thing I would add on back of what you said,
Emily is, to me, the goal of my show, all
of the shows I do, is planting a seed of information. Yes,
and then people six months, six years, six days later

(01:05:44):
watched the episode and are like, oh my god, how
did I miss that? Let me go look into this
some more. This sounds really interesting, Or maybe three months
down the road they're like, you know, I have this
thought in my head, but nobody's talking about it. Let
me see if there's a show. Wait, this person did

(01:06:06):
a show about it. Oh, let me go watch that.
That's the goal of my shows is not just the
live and talking with them in that moment, but the
future where people can gravitate and experience it in the
future and be like, oh, I missed that the first

(01:06:27):
time I heard this. That makes this more sense and
helps grow the seeds if they choose to, and if
they don't I wish them well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Well, that's what I love about podcasts. Once you put
it out there in the atmosphere, it's always there for
people to listen to. It could be five years down
what road, six years down the road, maybe ten years
down the road, and the podcast comes up to something
somebody's researching. They listen to your podcast, speaking a podcasts
before we let you go, Michael. For the ones that
are listening via podcast, we love you all so much.

(01:07:00):
We are ranked this week. I haven't posted top we're
number nine in the top ten on good Pods. So
we appreciate everybody on good Pods this past week. But
can you tell everybody where they can find you that's
listening and we'll let you go and we'll close out
the show.

Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
Sure, the easiest way is the link tree that I've
sent you Emily, and so that contains all the links.
But if you want to watch the shows, they're on
YouTube and Rumble and pretty much on YouTube. If you

(01:07:37):
look up the show names, you'll find them. So it's
writing through the unknown paranormal versus and the energy that
surrounds us. And on Rumble it's writing through the unknown
paranormal versus and tetsu I decided to shorten the energy
that surrounds us to make it easier to type and paste. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Well, we appreciate you Michael so much for being part
of podcast month here on What the Freak Live. We'll
let you go or support your show. Excited to see
what's gonna happen with you in twenty twenty five. And
thank you being part of What the Frick Love.

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
Thank you for having me and I look forward to
being back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Thank you. We'll see you next time. By Michael, I
feel so haill Billy when I say Michael Billy God,
Michael Bill. I have a manager I talk to you
all the time every week named Michael Mike Mike rick Zicker.
We need to have Mike Resicker back on me. It's

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been a while. I wouldn't reach out to him. He's
been doing a lot of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
Mike gree he's busy, busy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
He is busy man. But next week we're going to
be live back here at seven pm Easter Stander time
with my good friend Josh and Della back in Florida.
Into the wild is what this is called with the
Animal podcast Show. We got some very exciting news coming
up in twenty twenty five. Will doesn't even know about
this yet, shall I tell you? Okay, tell you We're

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coming together to have a podcast paranormal convention with all
of us big podcasters that's been around, and then a
couple of TV personalities in Florida. So yeah, twenty twenty five,
we're hoping to pull this through. We'll see Josh and
me have come together and some a couple other people
to pull together. We hopefully have a podcast paranormal convention

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down on Florida awesome area. So yeah, I'm very excited.
So we'll be here next week with Josh Adella. Thank
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