#112 MKUltra Exposed: The Real “Eleven” Speaks Out w/ Penny LA Shepard

Join Emily Menshouse and Marianne Estridge on WTFrick LIVE as they welcome Penny L.A. Shepard — also known as "Agent X11" — for a jaw-dropping conversation about MKUltra, CIA mind control programs, and shocking ties to public figures.

Born into Project Genesis, Penny reveals her life inside covert government programs involving psychic espionage, genetic experimentation, and sexpionage. She claims to be the inspiration behind Netflix’s Stranger Things character “Eleven” — and her story is unlike anything you’ve heard.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Specs and.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Hey, everybody is Wednesday. I remember the fourteenth, twenty twenty
two What the Freak Live. I'm your host Emily and
I have a co host tonight that her internet's working
awesome and amazing.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
You look fantastic, Marianne.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
So good to have you back. I missed you. I
missed you too. It seems like forever.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I know, it's been like a week maybe two, and
you're gonna be gone this Friday, but we'll talk about
that at the end of the show because you're going
to be traveling. But thank you for being part of
What the Freak labsnight. We love you And what maga
are you drinking out of.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
My cute little donkey cup?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
That might be donkey?

Speaker 7 (02:39):
And then I got this side.

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Yeah, and if you all don't know, Marianne's a new mom,
you call yourself a mom to the donkey right. Oh yeah,
I'm an animal mom.

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Got a new baby donkey so yeah yeah.

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(04:26):
topics that was actually declassified by the ce A or
c e A, c i A, the.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
C i A.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
It's Wednesday, it's Monday, all right, it's almost Friday, the
c i A. And we have we have been blessed
to get to know a lady that I believe for
testimony and she's you know, is possibly the eleven off
Stranger Things. And hold on here, I have a little

(04:59):
things coming up. So I don't know why that's doing that.
That did that to me the last time. So anyway,
if anybody gets an alert off Facebook, please message me
or make a comment that you got an alert seeing this.
But anyway, we're gonna bring Penny L. A. Shepherd onto
the show right now.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Hello, Penny, Hi, how are you?

Speaker 5 (05:19):
You muted my mic?

Speaker 4 (05:21):
It's unmuted. I hear you.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Oh you do?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm mute you when you're in time out.
And then I met you writers tuning in to Hello,
Emily and Marianne Heyrid. So tonight's show is chapter one.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Because people, you have a blog, Penny, Yes, and you've
you've made these into chapters.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Is this going to be a book eventually?

Speaker 5 (05:47):
You know, eventually when I get things sorted out. Because
I was just looking back at that chapter and I
think I have some things in there that we're wrong
regarding regarding a certain person. And I got this information
many years ago, so this was I updated it in
twenty twenty. But I got information from a person named

(06:11):
Ray Boulger, and I think Ray Boulger was wrong because
I just talked with one of the people that I
had written about. I think I got it wrong.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, before we get into this, it's okay because we
all make mistakes and things. And thank you for saying
that we're all work in progress and we all learned
from each other. I meant to play this before I
brought you on. This is not bad because I never
do these videos before I bring a guest on. I
want to play a video I found that's part one.

(06:44):
I have a part two portion of it. But I
think that you're going to be able to fill in
the blank if people are just not watching this it's
not familiar with mk Ultra. This is how it started,
and it started with Project Paper clip and drugs and things.
So let me just play part one here and everybody
can still hear us. By the way, why this video plays.

Speaker 8 (07:05):
Two American spies have just arrived at Sandos Laboratories, one
of the world's leading pharmaceutical factories. The mission corner the
market on the world supply of a powerful new psychoactive drug.

Speaker 9 (07:19):
The CIA scared stiff for the KGB, who's going to
get all this LSD and come over and start dosing people?
So we bought every drop of LSD in existence.

Speaker 8 (07:29):
At that point, the CIA has just authorized the purchase
of ten kilograms of pure LSD twenty five, enough to
dose more than half the population of the United States.

Speaker 9 (07:40):
They gave it to George White and let George start
dosing people.

Speaker 8 (07:44):
George George Hunter or White, a larger than life under
mar comics agent unknowns to a supervisors. White also works
for the CIA.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
His job, George Bush Hunter, what are we doing here?

Speaker 8 (07:58):
Good night climax.

Speaker 9 (08:00):
George had a CIA safe stocked with booze. George would
sit behind this one way mirror, drinking martini, sitting on
a portable toilet, didn't want to get up and leave.

Speaker 8 (08:13):
White pays prostitutes to lure their clients to the agency's
safehouse hookers.

Speaker 9 (08:19):
Who would bring these suckers back to the apartment and
dose who with pure LSD twenty five.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
This is where I have my effect in the mind.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
This is lysergic acid diathla mine, better known as acid.
The powerful drug was first synthesized in nineteen thirty eight
in Switzerland with.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
A dose of What's going on in Switzerland too?

Speaker 8 (08:41):
It becomes confused, is distorted, personal identity is called into question.
The results can be fourth bliss or deadly panic. White
takes meticulous notes and files his reports to a CIA
handler's So.

Speaker 9 (08:59):
That was how LSD was introduced to this country.

Speaker 8 (09:02):
Operation Midnight Climax is part of a larger, top secret
CIA program called mk Ultra. The goal learn how to
control and even reprogram people's minds. The CIA believes LSD
might hold the key over the next ten years. The
agency boasts across section of the American.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Public, I have a part two.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
If you want me to play Part two right now, Penny,
or you want to pick up her Okay, I'll play
part two.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Let's play Part two.

Speaker 8 (09:32):
Everyone from unwitting housewives to soldiers to even criminals like
gangster Whitey Bulger is tested.

Speaker 10 (09:39):
You know, what the CIA really dreamed of was sort
of like a drug you could give to someone get
them to commit all sorts of unspeakable acts and they
wake up the next day and they don't remember what
they've done.

Speaker 9 (09:51):
They were looking into brainwashing, they were looking into mind control.
They were looking into how they could create what they
called men candidates.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
They were trying to I think some of our president.

Speaker 9 (10:05):
Yes to go out and do things that they would
ordinarily not do, like assassination.

Speaker 11 (10:12):
The case of mk Ultra has to be one of
the craziest cases.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Of blowback in CIA history.

Speaker 11 (10:18):
Because here they took this drug LSD and thought that
they were going to be able to use it to
control people's minds. And the unbelievable irony is that LSD
is a drug that does exactly the opposite. It frees
your mind and causes people to question authority, turn on,
tune in.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Drop out.

Speaker 9 (10:41):
The CIA's attempt to control people turned out to be
just the opposite. It created the counterculture as we know
it of the sixties. There was a CIA that introduced
LSD to the United States.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
There we go all rights lead back to CIA, government, military,
and FBI.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Yes, actually, the CIA worked with Donald You and Cameron
at the Ala Memorial Institute, and he was head of
the World Psychological Association. He worked with the APA, the
A m A, and the ADA, the American Denal Association,
American Medical Association, and American Psychological Association. And while he

(11:28):
was breaking minds at the Alam Memorial Institute, he was
working to create drugs to ameliorate the effects of what
he called was schizophrenia. When it was in schizophrenia, it
was MK ultra. So he also created this This.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Is mind blowing, mind blowing just in the beginning of this.
So M k Ultra, if you could wrap it up
in the definition of you know, including what we just watched, Penny,
the last two videos first and foremost, the video as
we watch is correct, right, yes, okay?

Speaker 4 (12:04):
And is it still going on today? MK also never ended.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
No, it did not. They lied. They said they destroyed records.
They did not destroy records. So they never destroy records
because it's copious research that lasts for the lifetime of
the individual, so they carry on the experiments until that
person expires.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Before we go into this, I want to see if
mary Anne has any follow up questions or anything, because
we're gonna go in and I'm gonna show your website
here because you have a blog, and this is our
series that we're gonna have with you.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Pity about your blog room. We're gonna go chapter.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Thank you for letting me look it over, because, like
I was telling you beforehand, I haven't I haven't gone
back and looked at any of these things. But I
was recently introduced to a person who have come to
absolutely love who is She's epically historic in revealing mk
Ultra And I got my information and that I've published

(13:02):
this in July of twenty eighteen, and there's some information
that I was wrong about. So you know, I'm happy
to say, hey, if I find out that I'm wrong
about something, I'll say, hey, I'm wrong and I'll fix it.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, that's what we do, We learn and grow and stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
So you can't come out of the box and start,
you know, talking about this and not think that there's
not going to be any mistakes right with anything in life. Actually,
so before we get into this a little bit, because
we did have a comment here, Kelly was like wanting
to know about the unibarmer a survivor, wasn't the unibomber

(13:38):
or survivor of m k Altra.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
We're going to talk.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
About some celebrity things later, but you there's a list
here in chapter one. I want to make sure Mariann
maybe wants to get an introduction question in or anything
before we go into this.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
So, Penny, you were talking about people expiring, so basically
you're saying that with mk Ultra, when they would experiment,
some of these people ultimately end up passing away from it.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Yes, they would take the experiment to its fruition, which
would be death. But others like Jolly West, who I
found out my family that Zeno's family work with, they
take their experiments for the lifetime of the individual. So
if I'm one hundred and two, they're still collecting data
on me.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Side on the experiments people die.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Okay, are they still collecting data on you?

Speaker 5 (14:36):
I'm sure they are. They collect it is a lifetime experiment.
So this one individual who came to me, she said
her brother. Her brother's name was John, and John has
since basically been murdered. He was acquired by Jolie West.
His father was at twenty nine Palms. He was a marine.

(14:57):
He was also at Camp Pendleton. She told me that
when the family when her baby sister was six, she said,
Hollywood came knocking. I said, what does that mean. She said,
they wanted her baby sister to be in Hollywood. The
father said no. The following year, the baby was turned
seven and she died. They administered a vaccine which killed
her and many soldiers.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
A vaccine that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Then the family was devastated and started falling apart, and
the father was given a recommendation to go to a
psychiatrist to help the family. Only this psychiatrist happened to
be the renowned mk OCHA scientist, doctor Jolie West. Doctor
Jolie West also worked with Margaret Singer. And I know

(15:41):
now that that my first husband, Steve Zenos, who the
name means stranger. So I had a band named Stranger
because I'm I was missed a stranger. And I know
now that they were both both of C's parents were
psychologists mfcc's marriage Family Crisis counselor. And I know now
that they work with doctor Jolie West and Margaret Singer.

(16:03):
And at one point my handler they hand you from
one person to another. I was given to an individual
that his parents. Steve's parents were both PhDs. Steve had
his MA and psychology, And I believe now, and they
were in the business for thirty eight years. I believe
now most assuredly that they work with doctor Jolly West.

(16:26):
And then when I'm given to John, my agent, he says,
one time Caesar's Palace, he says, they're all singers, and
I'm thinking he's lying because the drummer doesn't sing. And
then he tells Gil, the guitar player, to go put
a mic in front of the drummer, and I'm like,
why would you lie about something? Then I started thinking, hey,
John's got to be a psychopath, because why would you

(16:48):
lie about something stupid like that? Right? You know, we
were all really great singers. Now I'm thinking in retrospect
he was talking about that we were all mk ultras
and we were all Margaret.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
So they categorized you all under the name of Margaret.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
They called us all. We said, they all, they all
are singers. The drummer did not sing, Okay, the drummer
Tom did not sing, but I heard him. I overheard
him tell somebody they're all singers. Now thirty years later,
I'm thinking actually what he was talking about was, as
in Margaret Singer singer Okay, as in Margaret Singer Jolie West,

(17:30):
that we were all some form of MK ultra super soldiers.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
And this is what you come out here with. What
is an m k ultra MK genetically engineered my controlled
super soldiers?

Speaker 4 (17:45):
So what is a super soldier?

Speaker 5 (17:48):
So there are there are many different kinds of super soldiers.
There are psychic super soldiers, uh, that are that they
use them for their psychic abilities. Like we were talking
on the Dark Outposts today with Eric the mind control guy,
about different types of psychic abilities and some of the
programs that he was involved in. There was a zombie

(18:10):
programs that he was involved and where they were actually
reanimating the dead. So many types of soldiers. You have
your military soldier right that is trained to shoot and kill,
to have your civilian who is mind controlled from birth
with hand signals and you'll see some of the things
when you start showing some of them there. They're acute

(18:31):
with oral signals, right hand signals, old factory which is
the smell. These are just different with lights, with strings
of code words, with Bible words, Bible code through movies.
They code you with certain words, then they would call you.
They would engender the hypnotic trance UH through trauma bonding

(18:55):
with raping and drugging, and they can use ob lights
to activate you. They can use strings of code words,
and they can use a team. On one side, somebody
will be doing a hand signal over there. Then somebody
also say a code word, and then there's a code
word in your ear and all of a sudden or
three taps on your knee. When you go into a
game show or you go to on the Tonight Show

(19:17):
or Jimmy ballon show and they pull you to them
and they say something, you think, oh, they're really close.
He's saying something funny in his ear. But actually what
he's doing is he pulls him to he does the
hand thing and or he puts a hand on the shoulder,
says something and you think, other than that funny, he'sas
a code word and he sits down, taps him on
the knee and now he's under a form of mk oh.

(19:38):
Now they can control what he says. If you start
saying weird stuff, they throw in a control word, or
if they want him to look crazy. They just let
him babble on.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Well, this is perfect right now because I was going
to try to share this the last half, but we're
just gonna go with the flow here Cardi B. I
shared this video. There's part two, there's part one, part
two Cardi B. And she's here talking I think people.
She freezes up. You're gonna see people in the background.
There's a specifically a woman in a white dress too

(20:07):
that kind of matches the same dress that Cardi B's wearing.
Kind of looks similar actually, and she gets down in
a mic and I hear on longer versions of this
there's a man talking over this video. Good good. I
hear twice on some other videos. I couldn't download it.
But but there's also I want to show you another

(20:28):
one after this.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Let's just watch this a couple of times. It'll let
me play it. We were having issues there we go.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Look at the people, they all looked at her.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
And I'll play it one more time.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Here we go, well on glitched, Yeah, and a personality change.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Right, watch this and watch the lady in the background.
I'm gonna play this another time.

Speaker 11 (21:00):
Look at the people.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Look, look they look alike she goes down. In one
video I watch, I couldn't download it and show it,
she says good good.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
As soon as she says good good, Cardi B. Starts
talking again one more time. Oh it sounds on.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Look at the people.

Speaker 7 (21:25):
They all looked at her.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
So is it? And that's part one. Let me play
part two, Cardi B. Where we have this hand signals,
he does a three thing with this and and is
this m K is this m K altras this.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yet we need they use They used many different modes
to get you under hypnotic control. They'll use neuro linguistic programming.
That can be something that they instill in you when
you're a child.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
These are I'm sorry that it means no, I didn't
mean into it came up really loud. I'm still learning
this part of this, playing videos while we can talk.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
So these are posted not suggestions which are implanted in
you from you know, from whatever point infancy or teen years.
They just build on those things. So if they were to,
if they were to want you to kill somebody, here
here's how it might go. I'm asleep, I get a
phone call. It's somebody I know, it's my handler John

(22:29):
or my handler Darrell, and uh, they say the moon
is blue, right, and then all of a sudden, I
go into a hypnotics trance. They give me instructions and
then I think it's my independent idea to go out
to a bar, to go out to the hillton. I'm
not tired anymore, right, So I'm like, I'm gonna go
out to the hills and I'm gonna sit in with

(22:50):
the with the piano player and I'm going to sing
a song. And then I meet somebody there who was
sent there for me because I'm a sexpiona's agent. I
end up going up to the room. I have sex
with them. But they don't know is that. They go
into the bathroom and I have something in my purse.
Now I'm under mk ultra. I put it in their drink.
Then we have sex. I wake up in the morning.
I don't even know this guy's name. I leave and

(23:11):
never think about it again. Two weeks later, the guy dies.
I don't know his name. He may show up in
the papers. I don't know him, and I'm not going
to even be looking at the papers because i just
went on with my life. Right. It was a casual liaison,
but in that laison. You were instructed to you did
you followed out their instructions and you don't even remember

(23:32):
doing that. That's how i'mk ultr works. Another method would
be when you're totally under mk ulcer, they use a
three year old to murder the president of Afghanistan or whatever.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Oh Lord, have mercy.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
I don't know if we this is gonna that will
have to be a special podcast exclusive talk.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Over that.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
But I want to play this last one here with
to that. This is a glitch too. This is still
Cardi B. She's on this radio station or she's being
interviewed and then watched this guy. And you're gonna hear
somebody talk above this too.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
But this is visual and oral.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yes, yes, watch this so bad, But nobody asked me
about no damn game. What's good?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
So is that?

Speaker 12 (24:27):
Is there gonna be a public registry because I'm honest
with you. Take the gift call, watch his hands, fuck
everybody's presence, Take the gift car, take the gift car,
take the gift.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Cardy Yeah, because in my what's that thing that was
going about?

Speaker 9 (24:43):
Back?

Speaker 4 (24:44):
She's zoned out? Oh he plays his cart hold on
shaky out.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
No no, no, no, no, no, it's not hitting good good,
but you see the girl. Maybe it wasn't a good
good that I heard there. It was another person said
go good, but you see the girl go down into
her She said something she had an earpiece to CARDI
B I guarantee it, and then she snapped out, I'm

(25:14):
gonna play it one more time. Let's play a video, ok, Tuddie.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
The mp ultra evolved so bad, but nobody asked.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Me about no damn good?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
What's good?

Speaker 4 (25:27):
So is that?

Speaker 12 (25:28):
Is there gonna be a public registry because I.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Was not with you.

Speaker 12 (25:31):
Take the gift call. Watch his hands, fuck everybody's presence.
Take the gift car, Take the gift car. Take the
gift car.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, because they might pull.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
What's that thing that was going about?

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Frank? Okay, listen nervous a little bit?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Oh whoa, I don't a little shaky?

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Oh no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
Three times?

Speaker 4 (26:01):
That's three times it was, wasn't it? It was three times?
Oh it's good, hold on, let's do it one more time.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
I'm so sorry that was three times. But there was
a girl. Do you think that girl behind her was
a handler because it looked.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Like they have handlers all around you, because it's no
matter where you turn a three sixty, somebody's going to
handle by doing a queue.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
And she's also dressed like she kind of looks like
Cardi B. In my opinion, everybody just look at the
girl behind her and see if y'all think she looks
like Cardi B.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
Make a comment. I don't know, I think she looks
like Cardi B.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Let's play it one more I'll play this one more time.
I didn't know the latter half.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Was attached to this video. Actually, I got excited when
I first saw this first part k L.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
So bad, but nobody asked me a boy.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
No, damn game, what's good?

Speaker 9 (26:54):
So is that?

Speaker 12 (26:54):
Is there gonna be a public registry? Because I want
you take the gift calls his hands, fuck everybody's presence,
Take the gift car, Take the gift car.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Take the gift car.

Speaker 10 (27:07):
Yeah, because in my poll, what was that thing that
was one of.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Friends? Okay, now listen three times I thought it was shaky.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
No, three three she snapped out of it.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
You know, in the Catholic church when they do their prayers,
they make you recite everything three times. Yeah, it's like
a spell almost. I know because I was raised Catholic.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I'm raised the nomination, Oh you were married? Well was
that three times for you too?

Speaker 7 (27:50):
Yeah, it's my my adoptive family, my adoptive dad. Yeah,
he was Catholic. I'm not anymore, but that's how I
was raised.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Do you remember you remember being in the services when
they they would say it and then you would be
repeating it.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Right all the time, all the time. I'm thankful I
didn't grow up like that. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
It is nk ultra because they were mkultrre new and
with the people. Uh in the beginning, they had no
idea what they were even hearing because the services were
in Latin and they couldn't folks couldn't read Latin.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
I never never heard those, but my dad did growing up.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
People, people, I'm just going to say this, it's really
super important, really quickly.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
I'm just going to insert this to understand.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and Arabic, those four languages. In anything
that you study, doesn't matter what topic it is, you
need to go back and look at the root words
of this right because because honestly, if we want to
talk about the deep state, we want to talk about
these people that are manipulating us.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
That's the language that they go to. And nobody studies
that anymore. And it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
In any ways, even Christian folk, even the Bible and things.
You all have to go back way before nineteen forty,
especially in Bibles in eighteen hundreds actually to get the
root meanings of this.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
This has all been manipulated, every bit of it. Andy,
am I wrong?

Speaker 5 (29:30):
No, you're not okay?

Speaker 4 (29:33):
So this you got to get back to your roots.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Everybody says that, get back to your roots, get back
to the roots of studying these languages before the English language,
before the Spanish language. And understand because a lot of
Latin Latin is medicaldic medicine, they have that.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Right which you know that medicine was you know mk
ultra it is and it's the two snakes intertwine is
the medical I forget what the term is for their
their symbol, but it's two snakes intertwined. Why is that?

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, from a Christian point of view, is that the
Bible talks about potions, and everybody's going to witchcraft, witchcraft,
witchcraft over potions. But actually, if you look up the
root meaning of that and the word is actually pharmaceutical, right,
so you know, and so they're using it, yes, and
they're using these products and manipulating and then they're doing

(30:32):
these projects like mk ultra. So a question of mind
and Marian you can have a follow up question after this.
So when you get into m k ultra and it's
in most of it's drug induced, and you get into
this pattern if we have the threes or whatever, when
we when you might be you're not ever out of

(30:52):
the program, but if you're physically out like cardi B
or some something like that. Are they always using that
drug though? Are they addiction to that drug? They have
to use it, and it's like click or what's.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
It's not just a drug. They use technology so they'll
put voice to skull on you and or implants and
they can actually pump up frequency, which is a voice
like a radio station. You would dial the station right
in the airwaves. Okay, so they're like, hey, I want
to listen to what Penny's thinking tonight, and they dial

(31:25):
you because there's technology in you and you are of
your receiver, so they dial your frequency so they can
pump into your head voices to tell you to do something.
I think my brother David had the voice to Skull
in him because when he was in Mammoth he worked
for the Mammoth Lakes Water District and the CIA came out.

(31:47):
He was talking. He was writing a book called a Whistleblower.
They came out and they stomped on I don't think
he was writing the Whistleblower. Then he was doing research
and they stomped on his face and he had to
have his face rebuilt. I think they put voice to
skull on him then before he moved to California.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Writer says, is cas is what she was talk?

Speaker 5 (32:06):
What it is? Yes? Yes, never heard of. Yes, that's
a medical symbol. So if you if you google that, Oh, okay,
I know what you mean. Right, that's a medical symbol
with the two snakes.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Marianne, You got any follow up or anything?

Speaker 7 (32:20):
So are Kenny, are you saying that they are able
to essentially read whatever somebody is thinking. That's part of
their program. Yeah, none of like, none of their thoughts
are private.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
They can actually print out what you're thinking on a
piece of paper on a printer. They can also there's there's.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Litigation is due to E m F.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
That that would be the e m F is a
low a low frequency. Okay, I'm a singer, so I
use v h F U h F.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
There programmed in there though. Do they implant?

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yes, because I know NASA is doing that with the military.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
They've been doing this for years and years and years
decades they've been doing this debility tracking devices. But they
also now can target you with your DNA with radio frequencies, so, uh,
you know, you don't have to even have the implant.
They're using the DNA now, which is why the objection
to some of the five g's because if they're putting it,

(33:28):
like if they're putting in some of the gibber jabs,
you know, uh, graphine oxide or an actual sentient being right,
and then this picks up it changes your DNA, but
also it will pick up radio frequencies. So my brother
David I believe, had the voice of Skull in him,

(33:51):
and uh they they essentially. I believe there's litigation in
Canada in which they're talking about stealing your intellect property,
which is those things that patents are made of, which
is your ideas and your concepts out of people's minds.
They're stealing their thoughts, out of their minds, and then

(34:11):
there then they can actually implant that memory back in
your mind of your idea, but altered a little bit.
And then when you go to follow your patent, you're like, oh, well,
somebody else already had this because they actually sold your
intellectual property, which are your thoughts. And this is real technology.
It's not you know, something I'm making up, look it up.

(34:33):
It's voice to skull. There are also things what's your implants,
which are called trackers, so it's essentially like a GPS.
And then also they can they mind map you, but
they can also uh, they put these implants within your
body at different portions in your in your ears, in
your eyes like cameras in your eyes, in your nasal passages,

(34:56):
in your teeth, in the back of your head, in
your wrists, in your fingers, in your knees, in your
internal organs, in your sex organs, in your feet, and
then they that's a whole You're like wired, like a
whole gamut.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
I'm pulling up this right now. Stoping.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
This is in Canada, everybody, So how does someone know
how does someone come to the terms of maybe they're
possibly mk altrade.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
Well, like I said, they're different there's different definitions for
mk ultra. Okay, there's a broad based definition, which is
that everything that you've been told has been contrived, and
the narrative is he who runs the narrative runs the world, right,
because they're running you're they're running what you're running your

(35:45):
thoughts based upon, because they're controlling the narrative of the
mocking group media, the narrative of books, the narrative of history,
which we're finding out that many of these things are
lies and they're hiding advanced technology and they're so you know, basically,
that's that's a broad based definition of mk ulture. Now

(36:06):
we get to the finer points of mk ulture, which
involved the militarization of mind control and then the genetic
changing of individuals to enhance them for purposes of war
craft and spycraft, and the advantation of each individual elitist
that has a hand in this, in which they can

(36:28):
take their slaves and propagate their own agenda through. Uh,
there's the money that they make.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
There's an actual Canadian Intelligent Intellectual Property Office. Everybody, I
want to follow it. I need to follow this stuff.
I want to see what they're putting out here, what.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
You should look is you should look for voice to skull.
Look at voice voice the skull technology. The intellectual property
is it's a law. But this is that that isn't
the voice to skull. That's actually how you're creating patents,
et cetera. Because you're using your mind to create property.
You know that is your property.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
V two K yes, V two k Okay. I want
to try to find a Okay, I'm gonna share this.
Holy smells, I've never heard of this. Thank you, Penny.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
So I believe that when my brother when they stepped
in his face and he was starting to research stuff,
and when he was working for the Mammoth Lakes Water District,
because I think one of the things that got and
murder was he worked for the Hyperion Water District. What
you were going to do? Yes?

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Hold on?

Speaker 3 (37:36):
This goes in with Eric that I had with from
Antarctica with.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
The keep talking. I'm sorry, I'm gonna look this up.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
So basically, what happened when my brother's face was stepped
on and he went into the hospital, they had to
rebuild his face, his jaw. They smashed his face with
steel boots, told him to shut up, and then they
had to build his face. I believe at that time
they put the voice to skull in him. He was
He did not go back to the doctors. He unwired
his own jaw. Then eventually when he went to California

(38:09):
to meet me, he eventually ended up working for a
Hyperion water district because what his job was was a
water reclamation expert in the army. And then when he
was at Hyperian he found out they were going to
This goes to doctor Artists who wrote who just did
the xposa on Watch the Waters? Who's a guest on
our show as well, And he said that this was

(38:32):
in the eighties, that they were going to poison the water,
that they were going to privatize the water, and privatization
is never good because he who holds the water.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Well, guess who holds the pure water? Do you know
who holds the pure water? That they had the biggest
water water basin that's actually pure water.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
In the world. Bush, George W.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Bush, Well, you know recently in Mississippi they've had some
problems with their water, right and so they've now had
talks about privatizing the water. But they said they did
this before with a German company named siemens and it
was dimastrous for them, right semens, of course, right, and
it was disastrous for Mississippi. But I'm going back to

(39:21):
what my brother said. One of the reasons why I
believe he was murdered because he had a lot of intelligence.
And so he started writing a book entitled The Whistleblower
about Bush, the Vatican, and my evil family. And one
of the things that he found out which led him
he was a shop steward. He was giving boxes of
information on how they were going to poison the water,

(39:42):
which they've been doing all along. I mean, look at
what just happened in New York. Now they're saying in
New York that they have what is it.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
POLLI They tell us all this this is actually Bible
Parophecy too, if you want to pull this up. But
roads lead back to Bush. Even Obama leads back to Bush.
Like if Bush owns like how much, it says like
he can feed this is the pure water he has.

(40:11):
And I'm gonna just tell everybody this, with my accounting
and finance information degrees behind me, invest in pure water
right now.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Yes, I we're telling everybody in New York to drink
the tap water.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
No no, no, never ever ever drink the tapwater, because
that's what my brother was talking about.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
Now they're saying in the groundwater they found polio and
everyone in New York must be vaccinated for polio.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Well, George Bush, George W. Bush, three hundred thousand acres
in Paraguay. But Paraguay, however you want to say it,
But he owns other things. Actually, if it comes down
to pure water that we just need that pure fresh water,
Bush owns it all.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
He owns it all. And that family is evil.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
Yes, it's it's evil with a capital E. Yeah, they're
they're literally doctor evils.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Doctor evils.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
I'm so sorry we've gone a little bit over, Marianne.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
You have anything you want to say about that?

Speaker 7 (41:21):
Well, I just think I think it's I'm kind of
like you. I'm like, why would why would you buy
that much land?

Speaker 4 (41:30):
What's the what's the purpose?

Speaker 3 (41:31):
You know?

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Control?

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Yes, control is, that's what mind control is. The case
stands for control control with the for German right, mind control,
and then it's also stands where manufactured killers utilizing lethal tradecraft,
requiring assassinations so they engender you as a child. Somebody
on one of our shows said oh, she's not an agent. Well,

(41:56):
how would you know what an agent is? You know,
I don't know what an Actually, I actually was an
agent because I agented in my bands, but I didn't
realize that I was. That's kind of an agent for
the deep state. Unwittingly, I had no knowledge that they
were using me for coport activities. Did I get paid
by the SAA, No I did not. Did I work
for the CIA, No I did not. Did I work

(42:16):
for the FBI, No I did not. But did I
work for the Deep States CIA? Yes?

Speaker 4 (42:21):
I did. We're going to pull up.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Hillary Clinton here in a minute, but going back to this,
people just don't know that they're working for these these individuals.
But I'm a little bit Yeah, I've studied this and
from what I've heard you talk. So this was accidentally
released government accidentally released documents on psycho elector. This is

(42:45):
EMF weapons and that ties into Antarctica. Actually, but this
is some of the things that they're really.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
Reading and broadcasting. Thoughts control the dreams, forced warning visions,
SYNCD with body motion. So remember when they were doing
body motion right then, microwave hearing, transparent eyelids, artificial tonight
is because I'm telling you five million in both ears,
five million people do not have tonight this. They're actually

(43:17):
hearing frequencies.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Well, I have it in both ears, and I always
have to have a sound machine on, like static electricity.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
Or like a in the background.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
I was told that I had it too, and I
thought I did because I stood in front of the
drums for fifty years. I do not have tonight. This tonight.
This is not something as far as I know, that
comes and goes. It should be, you know, a constant thing.
But occasionally I'll have hear a heart a loud ringing
in my ears.

Speaker 11 (43:42):
Now.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
I used to think, hey, maybe I have tonight this
because I stood in front of drums girl, right for like,
you know, fifty years, without any protection. So here's some
more force muscle quaking, the large muscles on the back.
Force precision manipulation of hands sometimes sync to the forced
waking visions you know where, because many of us are

(44:03):
having visions.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
But nineteen seventy four, everybody, nineteen seventy four. This happened
before nineteen seventy four. But this is first unclassified success
of transmission.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
Right now, we're in twenty twenty two, Yes, so what
do you think the advances are now five G more
than that, more than five G. These advances are very,
very sophisticated. So when you're saying, hey, you know, do
they have to take a drug? No, you don't have
to take a drug. They can actually use neuro linguistic programming,

(44:38):
which is very it's one of the most effective forms
of mind control that there are, and just command someone
basically like Pavlov's dog, my husband's. My father in law
used it on a puppy and he had the puppy
for two weeks. When the puppy came back, every time
for the rest of his life, someone rang the doorbell,

(44:59):
rolled over in peace. He did that to a puppy,
to a two week old puppy. That's unconscionable.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
It's cool.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Like there, If you go on this document, I'll share
it in the comments, I'll copee and pastes.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
I'll put in these comments right now. But if you
go in here, oh, I didn't mean to do that.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
If you go into this, there's other highlighted documents or
highlighted here like receive Mysterious documents.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Click on that all kinds of secrets.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
You will be able to find other detailed information and
actually declassified documentation that's been released from our government to
show this, because this all stems, all of the stems
from nk Ultra.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Yes, it's been they've been experimenting on this since, you know,
since the beginning of man, when men stepped foot on
this earth, and then his fellow men decided to enslave him.
Let my people go. But you know, the people did
not get let go, and we're all in. This is
not a religion. It's not religion, it's not race, it's

(46:04):
not creed. It is mankind, human kind that has been
enslaved by those who are in the govern the mental
They are the governors of our mental status and their
mind controlling the world. So when you say you know
mk ultra, I try to explain it's not simply those

(46:27):
of us that have been satanically ritually abused and raped
and drugged and electroshocked, and had our ovum and our
feet as is stolen and our DNA stolen, and were
sex trafficked to presidents and kings and the military and
the entertainment industry. It's far more than that. So you're
sitting at home thinking, well, I didn't have anything to

(46:48):
do with the government or the entertainment field or anything
like that. These are in every nook and cranny. You
have these satanic factions and the elitists that they are psychopaths.
Their primary goal is acquisition, and that's what a psychopath is.
They cannot get enough sex, they cannot get enough money,
they cannot get enough water, they cannot get enough land.

(47:10):
There's never enough for them. This is a satanic faction
which is in charge. Never enough slaves, you know, that's
what it's about. Yes, never enough, never enough water.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Right, Marianne.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
And we think of celebrities and stuff like that, but
we don't really necessarily talk about political individuals that might
also be in k ultrad. And I'm going to pull
up something here in a little bit, but I want
to Marianne, to possibly follow up with things that you said.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
You're yeah, I just and.

Speaker 7 (47:42):
I'm not nearly as knowledgeable on this as you're knowing.
But so essentially, you know, how many people do you
think are walking around out there that just don't even know?

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Well, I didn't know, Marianne until I was fifty eight.
So that's why. Because I want the younger generation to
start looking at this because they're doing it, since they're
doing it to the children, they start with the children.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
So they always start with the children.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
So the education has to come from us, the elders,
which go down to the youngers, which to go down
to the children. To change it, it has to be
the chain has to be broken somewhere, and it comes
from education from those who are waking up. I don't
want a twenty year old to have to, you know,
wait until they're sixty to find out what happened to
them because they've been erased and used in sex traffic.

(48:33):
I don't want that for our younger generation, you know.
I sang a song, a Whitney Houston song called the
Greatest Love of All.

Speaker 11 (48:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
I believe the children are our future. Teach them well
and let them lead the way. Show them all the
beauty they possess inside. Give them a sense of pride
to make it easier. Let the children's laugh to remind
you how it used to be. I decided long ago
never to walk in anyone's shadow. If I fail, if
I succeed, at least I know that I believe no
matter what I do, it's it's just It's a great song. Okay,

(49:06):
And it's basically telling you, the greatest love of all
is our children. The greatest love of all is truth.
The greatest love of all is the acquisition of truth,
which is my truth is Jesus and God. That's my truth.
And that's why I go to.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Well, it's like all these ministers and churches right now,
they want to go out here and do the homeless
all that stuff. Yes, go ahead, but really they need
to attack our children like they are.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
They are attacking our children. That's the problem in the Megan.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
I don't maybe I should know mega churches.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
I'm sorry, No, they're different Mega church.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
They are involved the mega churches there.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
Jesus is cash app Jesus.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Yeah, yeah, so local churches. I'm going to just tell
you this.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
If you truly carry truly understand this, you need to
understand this. You got to come out of the four
walls of the church. But you're you have to to
go and actually reach out to these children and show
them the way and teach them these mind control tactics.
No church that I've ever been in, I have degrees
in seminary bachelors and Masters of Christian Education, mineor theology.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
They never taught me about mind.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Control of course, because the mega churches are perpetrating mind
control and they're using the Bible to do it. Yeah,
and they're actually turning people away from God?

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Is it really truly? Do they really understand that the
Bible has also been manipulated?

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Like they don't understand that? What did they talk in
seminary Emily?

Speaker 3 (50:37):
What they taught me that King James Version and New
Life Translation was the two translations I needed to use
in seminary. Now I had my great awakening in twenty twenty.
I have been a Christian filled with the Holy Spirit
since I was well. I grew up in church, got
away from it. But I dedicate July twenty seventh, nineteen

(50:58):
ninety seven, as the time I had a vision from God.
During this it's a whole big testimony. I can tell
another time, but that's the day that I my life
changed in a relationship formed. It wasn't just an action,
it was a relationship. So I went to Bible college

(51:19):
and everything, but it wasn't until twenty twenty until I
got this Bible. I don't have it right now, but
it was forty five dollars at a yard cell in
twenty nineteen, and something in my heart just told me,
buy that Bible.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Buy that Bible. So I buy it.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
It sits on my shelf for a year, and I
start pulling it out and I'm like, this isn't this
isn't so familiar.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
So then I pulled out my other Bible and I'm
looking and comparing and it's not even close.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
You know, like Romans twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
How many people right now, if you're listening to this,
if you're a Christian, if you have a Bible or whatever,
do you have Romans twenty eight twenty nine?

Speaker 4 (51:56):
I just want to know. I just want to know.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Most Bibles don't have Romans twenty nine from nineteen forty up.
They don't have Romans twenty nine.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
They owe which factor's gone.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Wow, So my Bible's eighteen eleven. And if you look
it up on eBay, actually it was a good deal.
I got it for forty five bucks on the eBay.
It's like one thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
So, and then people don't understand who actually King James was.
And Shakespeare's all involved in all of this. There's been
a lot of it.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
I was reading Shakespeare when I was in like third grade.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
I always was drawn to Shakespeare. I was in a
play and everything. But he there's a lot involved. So
our modern day churches are still just depending on this
word that's given, but they never researched the backing of
that word or who created it and who who manipulated
it or did a translation of it. That's why I

(52:52):
say Latin German, Latin German, Hebrew, and Arabic. You have
to go back through all four of them, all four
of them to research this stuff out in anything, not
just with the Bible, with anything. But I want to
talk about politics real quick in glitches because we always

(53:13):
think about m k ultra and US and entertainment, but
we don't ever really think about politics. I have Hillary Clinton,
I have three parts here, and I'm going to play
all three parts, and I might play a couple of
them a couple at a time to show this is
a glitch. This is I have one glitch that happens

(53:35):
from one side to the other, and then I have
another glitch that happens at a van.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
But let's I'm gonna play this first endorsement in every
way about vice presidential possibilities and reward.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
You guys have got to try.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
Look at this again. Endorsement in every way, and I
was talked about presidential possibilities, Senate reward.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
You guys have got to tried.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Okay, and I'm gonna play it. I'm gonna stop sharing
that one. I'm gonna share another one from the other
point of view. Look at from this other point of
view of her.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
Talk about present.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
You guys have got a side.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
Talked about present.

Speaker 7 (54:38):
You guys have got a side.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Dude. That creeped me out. They just creased me out.
Is politicians are in k ultra.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
Too, Yes they are, and they are groomed again from
infancy to go into these positions. So you know, somehow
they get the get an upper hand because they have
a seated to Satan. That's my belief.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Well, it's all the deep state. And I'm going to
show one more thing. I don't know if we can
actually see this, but this is her. This is a
different day though she now functions again. This is her
getting in the van.

Speaker 13 (55:16):
Here her her apparently almost falling but captured, caught by
people presumable.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Let's play it again. You'll see her hair here, walk
into the van.

Speaker 13 (55:30):
Here, he apparently almost falling but captured, caught by.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
Eleven ceremonies surround her.

Speaker 13 (55:38):
A little while ago, we saw Hillary culdn't leave her
daughter's apartment building.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
And that's not eleven ceremony, not this past year, but
a couple of years back.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
So I mean, look at Biden. You know, we were
talking about that today too. At one point and we
were talking. I was talking with doctor Lenna Kantos, and
she's a neuropath, and she was saying, you know that
it could be that he has UH. I asked her,
does he have dementia? Does he have sundowners? She says,
you know, is it a combination? I said, why was

(56:09):
he like for two minutes not blinking? Is it because
he's on farm, big farm of drugs?

Speaker 4 (56:14):
You know, I'll tell you. I can tell you about this.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
It's because he's a clone.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
I can tell you about the non blinking if you
truly had COVID nineteen and he was on medicine. It
takes the eyelids because I have thyroid eye disorder. If
you all ever noticed my eyelids, it's called lid lag
and with thyroid, my eyelids does not match my eye
movement sometimes, so it makes my eyes look really big.

(56:38):
At times when I'm looking at something or like going
from one thing to the next, my eyes get really
super big. It's lid lagged from thyroid eye disease, but
it's also building blinking.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Well, hold on, it deals with oxygen.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
So if your oxygen levels are so low it doesn't
give that eye movement to your eyelids. It's then you're
not gonna blink. So that's how while I'm talking about
z liig lag from thyroid, I learned this oxygen stuff
with the thyroid, or not necessarily with thyroid, but how
your eyelid moves. So it looks like to me, if

(57:14):
he had the COVID nineteen and the lung issue. He
was on medicine and it was just not registering for
his eyelids to move with the movement of his eyes.
And the eyelids need oxygen to have that movement, just
like any part of our body needs oxygen to move.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
So he was very, very sick.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
If that's him, I'm still leaning maybe it's somebody else,
But if that's him, he went really bad from early
that morning till late that evening because he did another
speech or talk that day.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
He looked better in the morning, but by the evening
he was terrible.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
I mean, I don't know if he has some cognitive
disorder like sundowners or yes, you know, out dementia, But
I mean, it's it's it's very sad that we have
a president of the United States in that state. But
then again, you know, Reagan was pretty much a puppet
two and he had Alzheimer's what he was in office.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Well, let's play a video of people not moving real quick,
and then we're going to close out on this. I'm
going to have Marian close out and ask you a question.
I think this is the one I want to play
about these In this word Shaquille O'Neill, everything is involved here.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Look at this.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Player and al punde Jellen Rose was called looking paralyzed.
Rose to explained that he was simply focused on the game. Yeah,
his eyes never follow the ball as you'd expect them to.
Now does he even blink? However, the most creepiest video
kendrew in a segment of the Spots Show inside the
NBA for seemingly no reason, analyst and fellow former basketball

(58:52):
player Shaquille O'Neal remains frozen for over a minute.

Speaker 13 (58:59):
Could only be the musical stylings of Victor Oladipo, who
is the reigning two time.

Speaker 8 (59:07):
Champion of the All Star Weekend.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
And you're not just talking about the eyes, you're talking
about the body a very region.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
As a matter of fact, you both have experience. Mary Contest.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Has a finger. He hasn't moved. Is he breathing you No,
breathing slowed down.

Speaker 9 (59:41):
He is in a.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Hypnotic state, so another thing wouldn't cause no blinking. He
gave us a viable atmation, would be under a hypnotic
trance under mk Ultra.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Is that is that Kiana Raves? Was that ras?

Speaker 5 (59:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Look at this is that Keanu Reeves?

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
It looks like him, but I can't tell. It could
be Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
I can't tell, dude, if I was sitting there at
the table.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Shirt has not moved, moved, nothing moved. He hasn't blinked,
he hasn't moved his fingers, he hasn't put his hand
in his hair. You know, you and I are talking
and we're all we're animated. We're moving our hands, we're
playing with our hair, we're you know, rubbing our eyes.
This guy's mister zombie.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
He is.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
So it's it's not just the non blinking. Although I
always try to look for a medical reason, right, try to.
We try to look for a concrete, viable reason, and
then we analyze some of the other things too.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
There's too many of these people, too many of doing this,
and I think I think they're showing us a little
bit of it each time.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Tom Mariam, what do you think about all that?

Speaker 7 (01:00:59):
It's creepy. It's very creepy to me, Like I haven't
seen any videos like that before, but especially I think
the Shaquille that one got me.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
That was like yeah, and nobody said anything.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
There's another one with Al Roker where they actually I
think they hypnotize them on set and then they say
this word, a code word. They say holy ghost, and
he freezes for five minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
He does not move. Let me let me see.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
In the Today Show with Matt Lowry.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Okay, I've been I've been on the Today Show twice,
by the way, have you Yeah, and Matt Lowry's from
my town or from my area.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
W w K, we love you. Before today, I've been
on the Today Show twice. Okay, So okay, our Roker
freezes on live TV.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
Yes, she says the word holy ghost and he just freezes.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Hold on, Okay, I'm gonna save the video. I'm gonna
upload this real quick. Let's talk about Marianne. I'm gonna
upload this.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
I'm want to see this. I did not know about this.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
So, yeah, there's there's hundreds of these videos, but these
are the most prevalent ones, and they're just giving you
They're giving you a snapshot of just a minute snapshot
of the power of MK Ultra.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Well, I've talked to Al Roker like four times ever
and he was absolutely gracious and awesome, amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
I did not know about this, Okay, so what's up
with all this freezing?

Speaker 7 (01:02:53):
Yeah, Like my question was gonna be, Penny, have you
ever seen it like in person? Have you ever seen
it happen to anybody in person?

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
I'd have to really reflect on that. I'm not sure.
I know that I disassociated heavily, So it's a it's
a disassociation, but this disassociation is stopping you in your tracks.
I can remember people talking to me for twenty minutes
and my last subs would talk to me and I'd
say I didn't I'm sorry. I don't mean to be rude,
but I didn't hear anything you just said for the
last twenty minutes. So where did I go? I disassociated?

(01:03:25):
He said a code a word or so springs.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
This brings in attention spans because I think this is
why TikTok is so crucial. They're teaching us that not
have an intention span greater than a sixty second.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Wow, I didn't think of that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
So, like, literally, there's three minute videos on TikTok, and
I will just tell you this, not any other other
software or social media platform, but just on TikTok. If
I see three minutes, I'm like, is it worth watching
three minutes? They're cutting our attention span down? Okay, I
have video here. I'm gonna pull it up.

Speaker 10 (01:04:03):
Spirit things might get a little crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Watch this distance.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
Like they say, school, leave room for the holy ghost Anyway,
there is a.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Lot of memories today.

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
Actually today you could bro.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
Here, I go play one more time.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
He just he stood like that for a seriously like fire.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
I'm gonna I'm not gonna have have sound. Just watched this,
they say, holy ghosts and then he stands there, what's this?
He does this weird thing with his face, like his
mouth even holy ghosts, here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
You need to, like, if you haven't seen this, look
it up and look it up. Look it up and
get a very good close up of it, because he
literally stands there for like five minutes, not moving while
they're walking around him on the plaza. Now, I do
believe that he was hypnotized. I think there was a
hypnosis session before this happened and that was the code word.

(01:05:08):
But the what the point of the matter is is
that if they plant a post of not a suggestion,
that post hpnotic suggestion will last for the remainder of
your days until you find out what it is. So
if they say, you know, you go to a pen
and teller or whatever, and they say and they hypnotize you,
and they say, all right, when you awaken, you will

(01:05:30):
when you hear the code word flabbergas, you will dance
around like a chicken and take your clothes off. And
then fifty years from then, you could be in a
meeting and somebody said, well, I'm flabbergacid, and you stand
up and dance and start taking your clothes off until
somebody tells you I said, that's the code word, So
now you know the code word. And so that's what

(01:05:51):
I try to help people with is decoding and deprogramming
themselves so they can't get activated anymore. They do it themselves.
I just say how I did it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Okay, this is a lot and it's very important anybody
watching this please share this video. We're live on Rumble
and Odyssey and we're also live here on Facebook, cross
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Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
Please share this out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
This helps our guests, it helps our show, it helps
our notework, and this is the truth. I mean, this
is all declassified information, but people just don't take the
time to read and understand what's really truly going on.
So Penny all wrapping all this up, and we're gonna
let you go, and then Marianna and I will close
out the show.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
Chapter one, What is mk ultra? What's the most important
thing that you can tell people about mk ultra?

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
I can say to everyone because there are varying degrees
of mk ultra, but everyone on this planet has been
mk ultra. So you're being mk ultered through the mass
media outlets, you're being mk old through religion, through through
books that have been written through his history that is
not accurate. And so in order to break that, what

(01:07:12):
I tell people to do who come to me that
say that that they're mp altris, I say, I utilize
the weaponization of television back against them. And so I say,
watch these watch these shows with the captions on. Start
and stop them. Because we are basically like computers and
we store things in images, so that hence motion pictures

(01:07:36):
and then solicit illicit memories that you may have not had.
So I have a whole methodology and writing. Writing is
extremely extremely important to start getting your memories back. So
there's a whole methodology that I have that I did
just for myself. Now there are other methodologies too, I
just have one that having to work for me. So

(01:07:58):
I tell everyone please be please research everything, start writing,
start talking to other people, start asking questions. There is
no stupid question. And uh, you know, and like your
like the music that you've played, which I told you
I sang that song. Yeah, And I was in and
singer under my my brother John's band, which he's the

(01:08:21):
head of mk Ultr. As far as I know, it
was free your mind and the rest will follow.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Now it's all about the mind.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
And real quick, I do have your website up, but
you are actually too on the Dark Outpost with Dave Zublick.
If you want to just tell everybody real quick how
they can reach out to you. If they think that
they might be m k altread or have issues, how.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Can they reach you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
Yes, I actually talked to to everyone, you know, because
we all and this is very everyone says we're all
pieces of the puzzle, and there's no piece it's more
important than the other. So you know, we all need
to start sharing this in from If you'd like to
contact me and you have any any questions about mk
Ultra or your genealogy, I do what I do for free.

(01:09:08):
Please text my phone. I won't answer unless you're my contacts.
My phone number is six one nine seven seven nine
nine seven seven one and my email. I have a
couple of emails. I'm on the Dark Outposts, so the
easiest one that you can find me at is Penny
at darkoutpost dot com and I'm there with David zublik
or there Monday through Friday from nine a m. Central

(01:09:32):
Standard Time until one pm Central Standard time and where
I'm rumble, So please you know, check us out we uh,
we have a lot of different varied guests on there,
and you know, we we share information. We don't necessarily
share all of the opinions of the people that we
have on there, but we do like to give you
the information and then you figure it out and ask

(01:09:54):
God what you know, what the truth is because trying
to find out disinformation is just so hard these days.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Yes, my sources God too, so pray for discernment, and
we appreciate you and everybody that's just tuning into This
is gonna be a monthly thing, so chapter two is
going to be in October, so stay tuned. Please follow
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Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
We love you all, Thank you, and we're gonna let.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Penny go and then Marianna and I are going to
close out the show too because we've got some other
things we're gonna talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
But thank you Penny so much.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Thank you, We love you, and some money, so we'll
see you next time next month October.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
All right, I have a good night.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
By good night.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
All right. Okay, Marianne, what do you think about all
of this?

Speaker 7 (01:10:47):
I just want to know, well, I mean It's kind
of like opening Pandora's box for me because I'm not
I haven't heard a lot about this stuff, you know,
so it's all new. But the freezing videos, those like
those really stuck with me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
That's creepy. It's happening so often, it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:07):
Is, I mean, there's too many videos just from what
we saw tonight, So definitely interested in knowing more about it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
Well, we're gonna start going. Chapter two will be October.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
We're trying to do this like the second Wednesday of
each month, but October's gonna be the third Wednesday. So
chapter two will be the third Wednesday, and we'll figure
out what's going on. Because I do believe that Hollywood,
which she called herself Hollywood a reporter, we see a
lot of this and and and then it trinkles down
and it's in our music, it's in the stuff that

(01:11:40):
we watched the news and everything. So something about mind control,
like after you go through narcissistic abuse, which Marianne you
know know that been through it. Something about the mind
and that's intrigued me over the last year. So anyway,
thank you for Marianne for coming. We're gonna be live

(01:12:01):
here Friday, night at nine pm Eastern Standard time.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Mary's not gonna be with us. She's gonna be out driving,
going on a little vak. Well, you used to call
it get away. We can get away. We can get away.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
And we're gonna have Rider Lee that's gonna be on.
But we're gonna have as a as a step in
co host. But we're gonna have Janine Driver. She is
a actually worked for the FBI for sixteen years as
a body language expert. She has been on all these
different TV shows, Court TV. That's how I found her
because she was doing body language stuff with Johnny Depp

(01:12:37):
heard and she was super fun, and then I started
researching her. Wow, she's been on everything, History, channel, you
name it, she's been on it. She's a number one
New York bestseller author. So we're gonna be here live
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Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
Thank you Mariam for being here. Your Internet is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Awesome tonight by the way. Yeah, well, we love you all,
have a good week and we'll see you Friday night.
And not being a mister Sander time here on our
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