#113 Ghost Radios & Mad Science: A WTFrick Throwback with KD Stafford

#113 Ghost Radios & Mad Science: A WTFrick Throwback with KD Stafford

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This week, revisit our electrifying episode featuring KD Stafford, a.k.a. The Paranormal Mad Scientist! 🔥Founder of Supernatural Ink Paranormal Research, KD is a mastermind in building custom paranormal gear — especially ghost radios (and yes, we might even try one LIVE)! 👻📻
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hellllo, everybody's what the freak love? I'm in Lee Mi Steakeley.
So good to have everybody on tonight. I know you
all saw this Friday night and it's Sunday night. So
two nights and one weekend, it takes. That's a big,
huge dose, right.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Will, That's a lot for one weekend.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
But I like it.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I like it too. Anyway. My co host and I
Will Martinez awesome Dark Fringe Radio, and I'm going to
pull up your website here, please please please listen to
his podcast, Dark Fringe Radio dot WordPress dot com. Talks
a lot about conspiracy theories. Uh, a little bit more

(00:44):
a little a little bit more detailed stuff than what
I do.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, well get into specific paranormal as well, but very
conspiratorial based.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
But yeah, I always say it's the best show because
David and both have been on there, so it is.
It's a really good show. But speaking of shows and
things coming up too here in the near future, subscribe
to Paranormal Warehouse today, y'all. Yes, and for a month
you get a lot of exclusive paranormal things, reading, readings

(01:15):
and stuff. Also, I'm starting my new show, which will
be Sunday evenings. I think I'm want to start it
like twice twice a month.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, good day to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, My haunted objects start starting in October, so yeah,
subscribe to watch it for ninety nine a month is
super cheap. First guest of the show has to be
the first doll that ever turned me into these haunted objects.
And we'll talk to our guests tonight, Katie about some
haunted objects. But you know Bobo, the clown that's owned

(01:47):
by David Pierce Rodriguez with Prison Paranormal, that's going to
be on first show. The second show is going to
be Jason Haxton that owned the debit Box Dibbitbox always
say that wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, it's a difficult.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, I'm apple Acian. Like, do you say npath or EmPATH?
It's I say EMPATHA yeah, no, my dad says, quick, now,
how about beloved or beloved? I say beloved, but a
lot of apple Acchian says beloved. So anyway, I say EmPATH.

(02:27):
David made fun of me over it. A lot of
people say EmPATH. I say empaths. I'm sorry, y'all, that's
just how I am. So I'm sure I've been on
some radio shows and some hosts was like, what the
hell did she just say?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, Well, anyway, we're gonna we're gonna move forward here.
We are going to welcome our guest on the show
because our hour is by so super fast, and he
is actually the Ghost of Morgan City in Louisiana was
a show that kind of shadowed the Ghost of Shepherdstown

(03:03):
if anybody watched that with Nick on there, Nick Off
and oh, shoot, what's this girlfriend's name? She's gonna kill
me for not being able to remember her name. Sorry, Katie,
you might know her name, Elizabeth st Elizabeth sat Yay. Anyway,
so Ghosts of Morgan City Katie was on here. But

(03:25):
I don't think that Katie is like that doesn't give
him enough credit that show, because after reading about him
and researching about him, this guy's a freaking genius.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah he is.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
And you know he's made to and it's not only
the equipment that he's made, it's he's made it in
a way where it helps human hear things in a
different manner, not so much like when you think a
ghost box.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Kind no, no, I mean, and he's made a lot
of like different ghostbox and portals and things. But what's
more interesting is the ghost helmets and and he's doing
laser experiments with quarts and and and different minerals and
things like that, gem stones and stuff. Everybody, it's awesome.
But here another thing is and I want to bring

(04:12):
him on right now, is he is a veteran. You
all us army and we love our veterans, we do
and KD. What's up?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
What's up, Emilie.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Thank you for coming on the show.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, no problem, thank you for having me so here.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Did you like all the good stuff we said about you?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I did? I did you know? Like, what do you
do when people are like calling you a genius and stuff?
I don't I still don't know how Like I'm not
a genius. I don't think I'm a genius. First of all,
I mean, thank you for that, and that's very nice,
But I mean I just creative, maybe maybe a little
bit more insightful than some on how to bring some

(04:57):
stuff back and then apply it. But a genius, I
don't know. I'm I'm still I'm on the fence.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Listen, anybody that anybody that can take something apart and
put back together as a genius to me, because there you.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Go, Well, I guess it's relative term then.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
But my brother does that. He does a lot of
computer stuff and things like that, and I'm smart when
it comes to some of that to a certain degree.
But when you can create your own devices to be
able to do research with, I put that in a
different category. So your you're a genius. I should make that.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, make it. I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
D Calm a genius, Stafford. But you're also known as
the mad scientist, the paranormal mad scientist.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
This is true. Uh my, look at the background right there.
Look at it. Yeah, it's it's a look at that.
This is a box I'm working on for somebody. That's cool. Yeah,
I got a bunch of junk and this is my lab.
This is like my subterranean whole where I have to
go to build things. But yeah, so yeah, as you

(06:06):
can see around me, I spend a lot of time
doing this stuff. And you know, I think all all
builders do all all equipment. Uh, there's it's kind of
like a new part of I don't know, is it new.
I don't know, it's new to me. Maybe it's like
a new sub set of the paranormal field is equipment design.

(06:28):
I think, oh, yeah, and uh yeah, well even with.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
That steam Punt design too that you use. I really
like that design too. Jeremy Jones. Jeremy Jones uses a
lot of that steam Hunt too.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, I see, I seen that. I mean I hadn't
seen it until, like, because you know, I try to.
I mean, it's not like I'm I'm not against looking
at other people's stuff. It's just that I don't like
go seeking out other people's stuff. So when I see it,
I see it, you know. But yeah, no, he's got
some really cool looking stuff too. And who's the other people?

(07:02):
I like their uh they're designed to the uh paratronics
or pair of something, I don't know, but they always
have like the you know, the clear little crystal looking
things shooting all out of the size and they light
up and it's it's pretty cool. So yeah, there's a
lot of cool designs out there, thank you. I like
the steampunk look myself, but not everybody likes it. So
I got that it looks cool.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Well, I think it looks cool. I think you've got
good designs going on, and especially things that light up
to I always go for the things that light up
because I like, yeah and shot I think ghosts like
them too.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Me too, you know. I mean, if you like shiny
stuff in life, you probably like it after death.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Well listen, if I die, Katie and you're still alive,
you've every make something that comes back that's like super
sparkly shining. You know it's gonna be nice.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well, I will make the bedazzle addition ghost box to
conjure miss Emily through the spirit.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Can you just name it? Name it what the frick box?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
I'll name it what.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Good? Thank you so much anyway, for the ones that
are watching right now, super appreciate it that everybody's tuning
in and everything. If you all have any kinds of
questions for Katie, I like to go to the comment
section a couple of times during the interview and look
up some Oh yeah, yeah there's all conds, uh peologies.

(08:30):
Jeremy Jones is.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
On here, so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
There is. Yeah, speak of his ears are burning?

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Helleryl?

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Oh yeah, cheryln chery Lynn. Yeah, she's my buddy too.
She's she was on my show once and our connection
was really really bad, and she's coming back on I
think in November. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, she's a great person.
She really Yeah, we have we have. Uh oh look
here's here's here's her comment love my box he made.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Oh yes, I'm glad you love it, Cheryl. Yeah, and
she used it often too. That's that's, that's one thing
I really like to see.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, Cheryl, when you come on my show. I believe
it's November. I haven't. I haven't looked at that far ahead.
I'm pretty sure it is November. Bring the box line.
So so we'll we'll check it out and everything. So
but uh, anyway, let's talk about first, let's talk about
the Ghost of Morgan City. How how did you come

(09:34):
about getting on that show?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well, it was kind of weird. Actually I wasn't like seeking,
you know, to be on a show. But then again,
like who who would turn it down if it's offered? Right,
Like I mean right?

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Uh that just to dream come true for me. Uh.
This on the bucket list always, you know, always has
been to like be on TV for something, and right,
no matter what it is, good, bad, I'm gonna get on.
But now I wasn't actually trying this time. But I
had a friend of ours was they had a helmet
that I had made them, and you know, I don't

(10:13):
build the helmets like a production style thing. You know,
it's not like my ghost boxes. I make a few
of them and then I kind of distribute distribute them
to people that stay in touch with me and whatever,
and you know, so we could share experiences and everything.
It's like a group experiment type deal. And uh so,

(10:33):
like she had one of my helmets. It was apparently
on a shelf or something behind her and she was
doing an audition, I believe, and they saw it and
they said he made that, and she said, well, KD did,
and they said, well, can we talk to him? And
she gave him my info and next thing, you know,
here we are. So yeah, that's that's how that worked. Yeah,

(11:01):
I wasn't like seeking it out. You know, I'd watched
Ghost of Shepherdstown of course, and yeah I was. I
used to be a big like I watched all the shows.
I don't so much anymore, just because I don't really
have time, yeah for TV, barely have time to watch
my own show that I'm what got you in the paranormal?

Speaker 4 (11:23):
I know it started for you at a young age,
right of your childhood.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah. Yeah, first of all, you know, growing up in
South Carolina, there's all kinds of like you know, uh
uh ghost stories. You got the the Old Hag, you know,
the Old Hag story, got the the Agreement of Charleston,
And there's tons of others, right, I could see here

(11:49):
and get to a whole huge list. Uh. So, you know,
grow growing up steeped in that paranormal history, and then
also you know, just crazy superstitious beliefs just everywhere, right,
you know, like writing spiders, writing your name and they're
in their web they'll kill you, and things like that.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Charlotte Charlotte's web.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, yeah, you've seen the writing spiders, right. Well, it
was just I don't know if you have you ever
heard that? Like uh, like a you know you've you've
heard that, right, Okay, So I tell people that here
in Missouri and they're like, what this crazy man? I
never heard that. I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's a thing.
You know, go to South Carolina and ask somebody. Yeah,
so you know, uh that I guess you know, it's

(12:31):
kind of your mindset to so I'm just kind of
a creepy person, and not like a creepy like I'll
stalk you and like stand out front of your apartment
or anything. Creepy, but like I'm in the I'm in
the weird stuff, I guess, and so not like weird stuff,
like you know, weird dark web stuff, but you know, yeah,
so like uh yeah, so there's that and then uh so, yeah,

(12:56):
I just always had an interest in it. And then
growing up, I mean I remember being thirteen, right, yeah,
and sitting in the library reading a book on demonology
wondering and then realizing I was reading a book on
demonology and I was in South Carolina, and I looked
around real quick just to make sure nobody was gonna
snatch me up and like burn me at the stake
at the time, and like uh you know, yeah, but yeah,

(13:19):
it was it's it's weird because it's like look down,
it's frowned upon, but at the same time it's this
big thing and and you know that area. So I
guess that kind of really got the ball rolling was like, oh,
I'm not supposed to be and uh so yeah, that
just kind of evolved in development. And then I went
to the Army in like two thousand and shoot, two thousand

(13:42):
and seven there, okay, And then we went to Germany,
and in Germany I got to really go around and
check out some really old stuff and and you know, uh,
the history there resonated with me and my wife and
I who had we both always had a lifelong interest.
We had been doing some work in Germany, and we decided,

(14:04):
you know, when we get back to the States, we're
gonna start doing this stuff and make it public, you know,
like the whole Facebook page thing and everything. And so
we got back to the States and then we had
a kid, so we didn't do any of that.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah another kid.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, they do. So we had to wait a couple
more years and then two thousand and fourteen, here we are.
So that's uh yeah. And you know, I lost some friends.
They were friends of mine in the army and prior
to that also, and I've always had this curiosity like,
if you were to be able to communicate with the deceased,

(14:48):
how would you be able to do? You know? And
in my mind, for some reason, I woke up one
morning I hadn't really locked in on any certain piece
of equipment that I that I you know, had decided
to go for for my go to piece of equipment.
But I woke up one morning I was like, I
think I should build like a spirit box or ghost

(15:09):
Box had no idea how to do it, by the way,
So yeah, and that's just kind of how I got
started in this whole thing. So yeah, that's real. Are Yeah,
that's really good. What part?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
What part of Germany? Because my last name is Men's House,
but I'm German and it's Men's Housen. Yeah, and there's
a hotel Men's Housen in Germany that I that's on
my bucket list to go to. It's it is my family,
So I want to stay.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
I was in a Bavaria in Schweinfurt.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Kids, this is I'll tell you where it is.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
They always wanted to They want to keep me in
the south, so they sent me.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I love to stay.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Too, but I like to go north. Sometimes I feel
like it looks different there, but it really doesn't.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
The northerns are mean though, I'm just kidding anybody watching this,
I'm kidding. I'm kidding, kidding.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Family, he always here, Katie.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Thank you for serving our country.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
So thank you, yes, yes, yes, yes, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I totally would. I'd still be in the army. Actually,
if you know, there weren't some injuries and whatever down
range and which ultimately led to my getting out.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
It is what it is, well, Katie, I can't pull
it up right now, but just a little bit about myself,
really really fast. Is that Also, there's an island in
Norway called the Men's Housen. These brothers had a fight
over the hotel and one brother left over a hotel
and goats. One brother left, I did my DNA stuff,
and he went to Norway started his own island there

(16:58):
and has some resorts on there, the men's housing resorts.
And then we have the hotel is still standing in
Germany and I can't remember where it's at exactly right now. Uh.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
But to be honest, what what serious viewed between brothers
doesn't begin with goats? Goats?

Speaker 1 (17:13):
You know? Yeah, maybe that's why I love I love
ghats too. I think they're so cute. Yeah, it was
overcoats and the hotel.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
So that's that's prime argument right there.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
But so bringing that on, you all eventually formed the team, right,
And I don't know if this is your first team,
but I got a picture of super Is that your
wife there on the on the left hand side.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
That is that is my lovely wife, Miss Katherine Stafford.
And right that is my counterpart and my right hand guy,
best friend. Whatever you however you want to describe and
Doug plimbot, pimblot, Plimbot, pimblot, however you want. Pim blot
and him, I called him, Yeah, I called him plimbot

(18:03):
for the longest time, and then like six months later
he was like, dude, it's pim blot. That's great. Yeah,
he just let me say it for last six months. Yeah. Yeah, Doug, Doug.
Doug is like, Doug's teaching me things. Doug is a genius.
Doug is also a genius. He teaches me lots of stuff. Electronics.

(18:24):
He he's actual, that's what he does for a living,
here to work on electronics.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I'm sorry, no, no, no, well go ahead.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
The electronics kind of uh experience kind of came from
the army, Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah? Yeah, Like, uh, before I went the Army, I
remember like shocking myself grabbing a spark plug on a
running onmoar. I was that dumb. Yeah, I was that
dumb when it came to uh, but I like to
call it ignorant. Okay, I was that ignorant at the time,
you know, Uh, whenever I went and well, no, when

(18:58):
I graduated high school. So I became a mechanic after
I graduated high school. Right, I started working on a
construction equipment and I got I got a taste then,
but I really got into it in the army. So yes,
that's that's where the electronics thing comes from. Probably a
longer answer than you than you expected. That's great. I'm
good at that.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Great answer. I love I love hearing some of the touch,
spark plug or whatever.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
It was just a digital to give you an idea.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
So, like, how did you all get up like supernatural ink?
Where does that come from?

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Well? I like tattoos, right, and so like I draw,
and I'm an artist and stuff, right, So you know,
I thought the ink thing was relevant. I wanted to
use that somehow. But also I liked, uh this, Uh
everybody was using paranormal this paranormal, that paranormal everything. Yeah,
like pair of, pair of this, pair of that. Everything

(19:55):
has to have the prefixed PAIRA in it. So i'll
I just wanted to be I want to do something
a little different. It wasn't like you know, burnament steak different,
but it was like you know, it was less commonly used.
So I decided to go with Supernatural ink, and at
first it was I n C you know, and but

(20:18):
I was like, you know, I want to make it
k because I want to have parlor to one day. Man,
I've kind of given up on that, but uh yeah.
So then it became Supernatural ink, and so we just
kind of left it like that for branding purposes. But
we like it.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I think it's pretty cool too. We do have we
do have a question which is interesting, a question I
don't know if I've asked too many people about this
that's been on the show, so I'm going to pull
it up. We have Darren Bush question, what are your
views on provoking?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Oh that's an interesting question. Okay, there's a lot of
people is probably gonna get mad at me saying this.
I think I think I think provocation is a necessary
evil sometimes, you know what I mean. It's kind of like, yeah,
it's kind of like, you know, animal testings bad, but

(21:15):
we still do it, you know, because I have to
either like we do it here or we you know,
so like it's bad. But at the same time, you know,
if you're really trying to get to the bottom of something,
then you're not getting responses. Sometimes you gotta do what
you gotta do if all if other means are exhausted.

(21:37):
You know, like you've tried trigger objects things like that,
but you feel like something's there or if something's malevolent
or harming people. Especially in those cases, I don't I
really don't mind it. Then I feel like, you know,
eye for an eye, it's like you're gonna attack me
then or somebody else in this house? Then why should
I have a problem provoking you? So now, and as

(22:01):
far that's that's now, that's the side of like where
it hurts those spirits, feelings or whatever side right, like
you have to do that every once in a whiles.
It is what it is. But like, uh, as far
as like provocation, oh what happened? Okay, all right, my screen,
my whole screen is okay. So so yeah, but provocation

(22:27):
like it can also be bad for you because you
don't know what you're provoking. So I think that's probably
the thing that I worry about the most is you know, dude,
do I know what I'm provoking? Do I know that
what I'm talking to is what it's saying? It is?

(22:48):
It's just like with anything, you know, you always you
always hear, oh you don't know what you talk to.
It's kind of the case mostly all the time. So right,
so uh yeah, provoking can be bad for you or
for not necessarily for whatever you're provoking, because I mean
they're not going anywhere anyway. That might seem kind of insensitive,

(23:10):
but I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Well here my thing is in say, if you're gonna
provoke and you're gonna say something, always make sure you're
prepared for that entity or whoever the response to do
what you're saying to do. Oh yeah, you know you
need to be prepared if you if you're going in
there yelling at something, you better be prepared that you
may get a reaction, so you know, don't scream, scream

(23:34):
and run when it happens.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
That's right. It's like my my drill start used to
tell me. He used to say, uh, do whatever your
brank can handle, that's right, which pretty meant like do
or it's pretty much meant like do whatever you can take,
like whatever kind of punishment you can take. Go right ahead.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Have you done any drill started like words or or
you know, statements to the to these like do you go.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
In like this sarch like yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. If
there's uh, if it's suspected that whatever we're dealing with
is maybe the spirit of something that or of someone
who was in the military at some point they were
like a Civil War so soldier or something. If I'm
not getting anything, yeah I can. Yeah, I'll turn on

(24:22):
drills Harten real quick. I was never a drill serdant.
I just want to put that out there. People are
very touchy about that. I never got to go drill,
but I had a drill sergeant. You at, a lot
of my best friends. A lot of my best friends
in military were drills hardens also, so I'm quite familiar
with their lingo.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I'm sure you are.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Well that that makes me think of Gettysburg, like maybe,
oh yeah, up in there and be like a drill
sergeant there and see what happens.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
You know, I've never been to Gettysburg and I really
want to. It's like when I grew up on the
East Coast. I think I left. I went past the
Mason the Line I think one time.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
So yeah, okay, Gettysburg's about four hours for me and
I've only been there twice.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
So yeah, yeah, that's like a that's like one of
my Mecca's I guess I don't want to call it Mecca,
but like it's a big deal. But yeah, that'd be
a perfect place, perfect example. But you know, you'd have people,
there'd be people that were playing because I was being
mean to the.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well I tell you to well, out of all the
battlefields and things that's going on in the nation, I
think that's the most haunted. Really, that's the most visually
proven place place, you know, heart, I've done it for
a long time. Very rarely do you catch anything on camera.
So when you go to a location or you see
the sea at one location that keeps having stuff on camera,
on camera, on.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Camera, Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah. I got a friend who
just went there recently and he sent me a picture
and he was like, I'm not gonna say who he
is or because he's you're doing something with his picture,
but uh, yeah, he sent a picture to me and
I was like, man, I can't explain that. And you know,
Skeettysburg and uh there was a the other video, like
the infamous, the famous video where it's like a it

(26:06):
looks like a sorry there's fly down here. Yeah, there's
like a where you can see like soldiers marching in
the woods.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, so I mean that's that's really good. And that's
not headlines. Man, I'm sorry. I'm like, I'm super skeptical,
not of paranormal stuff, but evidence. Right, So I picked things. Yeah,
I picked my own stuff apart. You know, I pick
everything apart, right, And I won't I won't come out
and say anything publicly about anything or anything. I won't

(26:36):
like be debunking people's stuff and everything. But but I do,
you know, for my own purposes pick things apart. And
that's that's a video that I can't readily explain.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Yeah, it's pretty pretty creepy, Katie. Let me ask you.
I wanted to ask you real quick.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
One of the main pieces of equipment that you've come
up with that's been very interesting.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
This is a ghost telling.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
I know.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Ever want to to talk about it as well. Please
can you shed some light on that please?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah. So I'm just going to give you a basic
of how it works. Yes, there's a picture, okay, Yeah,
I got went back here too somewhere okay, but yes,
the Okay, let me grab me one real quick, actually helmet, yeah, okay, let's.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Let's I'm gonna take the picture down for route. Now,
I like the picture you took. I have a couple
of pictures of the helmet, but people can see this
when you're bigger.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Okay, okay, so this is the Jo's helmet, yes, and
it does no. Well, the one that that mister Rodriguez
posted was a iron Man okay, but this one is not.
This one is actually Optimus prime Prime Prime. Yeah, he

(27:59):
had the thing up here, but I took it off
because I didn't need it. So yeah, well, you know, yeah,
and and this is probably why I catch the most
flat about the helmet is because it's made from a
voice changer helmet. But in my defense, it that the
helmet is very adjusting, right, and it's all plastic. There's

(28:23):
not one piece of metal in this aside from what's
on the micro controllers, which is shielded and the magnets
right here, there's not there's no metal. You know, you
can't find a moped helmet, for example, or anything like
that that's been used in the past without some metal
in it, and then tons of other stuff. You know,
you know, you don't know what the em fields are

(28:45):
trying to pass through and this and you know, right, well,
I wanted to pick something as plastic as possible. And
then and this and adjustable because this thing can move forward, backwards,
up and down so fit anybody's head basically. And that's
important because these magnets on the side, these these electro
magnets have to be pointed at a specific part of
your brain. And the LEDs are actually flashing individually. You

(29:12):
can't really tell it, but you can see the left
and the right sides are flashing independently. They're not flashing
at the same rate, and when you're wearing it, you
can really tell it. But they're both flashing independently at
frequencies that your brain operates at during data way, while

(29:36):
your brain's operating under data waves, when it's operating using
delta waves, beta waves, alpha waves, gamma waves, all those
different waveforms that your brain produces while you're in meditative
states or just regular just sitting around doing whatever. That
the helmet goes through a cycle of those right that
I've pre programmed into it, And I think that kind

(29:57):
of lulls you into a meditative they if you let it,
you know, it's kind of like hypnotism or something. You know,
if you fight it, if you just fight it and
you just absolutely do not want to experience anything that.
Obviously you can block whatever you want out of your
head right right. But now if you just relax it

(30:18):
back and do you know, the follow the instructions, you'll
probably have some sort of experience. It may not be
what you expected to be. Most people, it's not with
this but to be which I find funny because a
lot of people have this expectation that it's you know,
they're going to see this or they're going to see
that wherever they're at, right depending on the location that

(30:39):
they're at, And that's not true. I've had people see
things that they described as being interdimensional beings wow at
some haunted places that I mean, there's never been that
type of experience there. But then you have another person
have a similar experience wearing another helmet at the same location,

(31:00):
and you start having to stop and think, Okay, what's
going on here? You know, is there's there another element
to the paranormal activity at this location that we were
unaware about for but now we kind of know that
there's something else going on here too.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
So so how does this helmet document these readings? Like
how does it?

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Well, you see Now that's the problem, right, That's the
problem that people have is that I can't really produce
some sort of data log or whatever, you know, saying
what their experience was, which you really can't do. Yeah,
I mean, I okay, I could have video right of
this person having this experience, but ultimately you're just going

(31:45):
to see this person having their experience. You're not going
to see what they're seeing. And I think that's the
that's the initial problem. And I think it's important to
keep in mind that that experience, it's his personal experiences
and and and uh, testimonies of those personal experiences are

(32:06):
probably what make up a good seventy five eight of
paranormal activity.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
It's just always a story, right, somebody's telling you what
they're what they experienced or what and you know, so
it's more, it's more, this isn't as much about documenting
uh like activity or or or dataloguing you know, temperature

(32:34):
and EMF readings and this, that and the other. This
is more about providing someone and the means to to
have their own experience, you know, that that to have
the same experience that a medium may have, right, right,
because that's kind of why you know, I took this
path in the first place because I was jealous of

(32:56):
mediums and their ability to see things. And I'm not
all media, not all people who claim to be psychic psychic,
and that's my skepticism forwards psychic ability. It's not I'm
not skeptic of psychic ability. I'm skeptic of the just
the sheer volume of people who claim to be psyched.
That's my problem. But yeah, that's that aside for the

(33:20):
people who are like me who don't really have much
of a intuitive side or uh, you're not able to
see the dead or whatever, it's kind of a it
creates jealousy, man, I'm sorry, but that's that's that's why
I can explain it. Yeah, I remember being mad, being
mad when you know, parents, when mediums would be seeing things,

(33:40):
and that they just kind of change the whole direction
of the investigation because they saw something. And it's like,
that's a pretty powerful, you know, ability to be able
to see these things, you know, because we could sit
around with our E. M F detectors and our ghost
boxes and stuff all day long and of the day
we we it's not making a seat.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, but sometimes it takes a really bad emotional toll
on these people too. They're drained spiritually, mentally, and physically
from these things. So sometimes the people that don't have
the gift it right, Yeah, it's it's uh, I can't
remember what I was gonna say on what they call that,

(34:22):
but yeah, I mean I know, yeah, because you know,
I'm not a medium, but I can pick up things
off images and uh pictures. It's hard for me to
connect when I'm actually at the place, but you send
me a picture, I can read it. But it's draining though,
it's super draining. So I like the idea of the

(34:45):
helmet though, I've liked that for a long time. And
have you ever had anybody sleep in the helmet? Like,
has anybody ever slept in it?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
And I have. I don't advise it, but I'm gonna
say that it's probably like scientifically not gonna hurt you, Like,
it's not gonna lie, You're not gonna I don't think
you're gonna have Like I don't think anyone would have
like an aneurysm from sleeping with it on. My My

(35:15):
problem was, I think the biggest problem is you put
it on and there's a loss of time so it's
like two hours goes by. You feel like you've been
sitting there for fifteen minutes, but two hours has gone by.
It's it's like, what was I doing during those two hours?
But then you look around and you did whatever you
were doing. You're like, okay, I did I did all

(35:37):
this work I was doing on my computer, but I
don't remember like sitting there for two hours. So yeah,
and that's that's that's actually probably the most predominant effect
that I've seen across the board is lost of time.
But yeah, sleeping with it, I mean, I see where
you're going with that, like maybe with lucid dreaming type

(35:58):
right things, And it's actually a good idea.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Well, my dad has PTSD. He's a veteran. He was
a screaming eagle hunter first in Vietnam, so I was curious.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, well, Will and I talked about this before the
show started. To night. My dad has PTSD, very active
dreamings and dreams and is actually fighting in these dreams,
and he will file the bed and everything on it.
So I was just curious to see if what that
would be like to wear one of those when you sleep.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
That's interesting. I haven't done before into the lucid dreaming side.
I do believe that there's that there's an application, potentially
an application for it in all aspects of ESP type
you know phenomenon like h lucid Well, lucid dream is
not so much ESP type phenomenon, but like I believe

(36:52):
that's that's a possibility as well. But definitely remote viewing
I think is probably a good application for it. Mediumship,
you know what else, just basic like clairvoyance I believe
would be a good application for it. Have you surely

(37:13):
you've seen ghost right here talking to me if you
haven't seen Ghostbusters? So Ghostbusters? Right? That the test the exam,
I can't remember what's called at the beginning. Yes, sorry,
there's a name for that. There's a name for that
test unless you're a hot girl, right yeah, he was.
He was only zapping the dude and the dude was

(37:34):
all right, man, So it was like it was that
was like negative reinforcement for him. And I don't know,
but uh yeah, So so I believe that that test
would be a cool I haven't actually done this yet,
but I want to. I want to start running tests
using that not shot shocking theyre wrong, not shocking anybody

(37:54):
minus the electric shocks.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
But you shocked yourself, you shot you shocked yourself.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Before you shot myself. Plenty of time. Yeah, too much,
probably a little, probably a few too many, Katie, I
have two questions.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
First, one is, have you had a strong or powerful
medium psychic try the helmet on at the same time
and see what kind of results they were.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Able to I I have had a couple who have
tried the helmet on and they love it. They oh yeah,
they absolutely, you know, and it's mixed results. And I
don't know why that is. I'm not sure why that is.
I'm gonna have to try on a bigger like a
bigger pool of people, uh that claim to have psychophillia. Now,

(38:45):
one really good friend of ours, and she probably won't
mind the name drop on her. Her name's Jacknese. She's
she's a very very talented I believe she's a very
talented medium. And she wore the helmet at at one
of our cons we recently did in uh in Brian,
Ohio with Austin Maynard. He does these haunt the Town events, Yes,

(39:09):
of course, Oh.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, uh you know Aaron Shriver of course, one of
my good friends too. Hey, okay, sorry you said the town.
I actually pulled a picture up. I was like, oh,
he knows Aaron. Aaron's been on the show a couple
of times. But I'm supposed to help out at one
of these.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yeah, yeah, we are there. Yeah. Yeah, Jeremy wasn't able
to or not. Yeah, no, that's say Jeremy, not Jeremy. Austin.
Austin wasn't there at that one. But that usually when
I'm in the Ohio in that area. I know that
was that was in Illinois, but yes, in the Ohio area.

(39:50):
That's because that's where I met Aaron. I'm there because
of Austin or you know now Jay Lynch and oh
yeah paranormal. Yeah, the paranormal. God, he's gonna be mad
at me because I I can't think of the anyway. Yes,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Jay, I can't think of her

(40:12):
off that. There's a lot of things I have to remember.
But uh so, yeah, so up there we were doing
an event up there. Jack put the helmet on and
she said that it actually like stopped her activity.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Really, that's interesting right there.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
That was that was very Yeah, and that was the
first time. Now, Unfortunately Sarah didn't get a chance to
wear the helmet on the show. That would have been
really awesome because I love her. Sarah's mcgirl, but like
you know, but Jack's also mcgirl, so like her getting
to wear the helmet, like, I feel like she was
really giving me her true like what she what she

(40:58):
was experiencing, not just like you know, making stuff fabricating things.
She was like, legit, tell me the truth. And she
said that it basically blocked out all her stuff and
she loved it. And that's why she loved it really
because like you well, just like Emily saying, you know,
it can be it can be a gift, but it
could also be a curse in it's training and especially

(41:21):
when you're you go through it all the time, you know,
uh like involuntarily maybe you know, like you don't even
want to even see what's going on with something, but
you got just things are penetrating your you know, violating
your skull and stuff all the time. It's like, you know,
I can I could see why that would get old.
So she liked it for that reason because it just

(41:41):
completely blocked everything out. And I've had others that that
had experiences wearing. So you know, maybe it's the it's
the type of ability that they have individually. I don't
I'm not sure where I have to do more experiments
as if there's any sort of pattern there.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, yeah, well I have I have several friends that
would probably be up for that that are really good
psychic people that I have come to know over the
years and trust. So, Katie, you need somebody holler at me.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I got holler. Holler, Yeah, I hear somebody else say
that the.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Holler out yonder and uh, the lot, the lot is
brought to not lot.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
That's the key to a Southern accent. You have to
you have to completely jacket up your pronunciation of eyes.
Draw completely out of eye.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Ahay Jack, Jack niece is in here too.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Jack, Yeah, kick me there, just talking about you.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Well, Yl Carter needs to wear one.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
There you go, she said, Jackal Yeah, I don't know
if Cheryl's warm one yet.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
She needs to wear one.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I don't think she's worn.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
It so anyway. Now, now you make these helmets, uh,
it's custom made helmets. Do people order these and you
make them? Do they can they purchase these?

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Well, now, these helmets are are not like you get
to pick they're not like my ghost boxes, like I'll
have mine in pink, and I want it to be dazzled.
I know, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I'm gonna bring up one of your ghost boxes because
I have a few of them here.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
God uh so yeah so yeah, so like I'll put
it out like whenever I complete around of them. And
and I actually have some people who have contributed to
the building and everything of the helmets, so they're they're
obviously marked down from one. But yeah, it's it's it's

(43:59):
it's it's a group experiment. So you know, I'm not
like selling them if I say right here, If I
say right here, Emily that that yes, just hit me
up on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
And you'll get you'll get like one hundred and yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, And you know there there are potential side effects.
I mean I haven't seen any like physically harmful negative
side effects yet I could see I could see where
there could be a problem. I always tell people, you know,
if you if you have any uh any form or
any history of epilepsy, it's not a good idea. Because
lights now do make it where you can turn the

(44:42):
lights off. There's a switch to turn the lights off.
But yeah, that's definitely something you need to look out
for and anybody who's had any sort of like really
serious brain damage type thing. But I have had people
who have had brain injuries. Were the helmet and stuff
like that a little bit worse than TB. I actually,

(45:02):
I mean I have I have TBI, okay, but but
I have a friend who has worse than TBI, and
he wore the helmet and he said it actually made
him have moments clarity where he hadn't really experienced me.
And I'm not I'm not claiming that this is some
kind of like miracle thing, you know, because I saw
that argument recently. Oh, if this guy invented a miracle

(45:25):
helmet that can make everybody see ghosts, man, he's gonna
be rich no time. Well, I hope it is, and
I hope you are, thank you. But you know, it's
it's not really, it's not. It's not like a money
making scheme like I see so many people. I mean,
it's like, where where's the money at? Man, I'm in
my base. I'm in my sub terranean basement in the Midwest. Man,

(45:49):
I ain't in California.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
You know, Yeah, you're not in the keys or anything
like that. Man Man, well Will Will, He's in West
Palm Beach.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
No, I ain't chilling out there with Will Yeah beach.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
You ever thought about like like a like a miser
aspect to the.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
I actually had avisor yeah he again? Yeah, the original
the original helmet that I built, uh well, which was
that same one back there it had. I kept the
eye piece, the eye covering in it originally, and I
just painted it white because I was I was kind
of at the time. I was trying different things to
see what would work, you know, and Emily, I just

(46:34):
had to say this, it looks like you're a floating head.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
I like, you know what, That's what I'm gonna do.
Show make sure I have a black turtleneck up here.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Yeah yeah, I mean I didn't know if it was
like you do that the best like stand like, should
I have warn a black shirt and lacked everything out? Okay?
What was I saying? The helmet? Yes? Okay, So I

(47:11):
think I tried that at first, right, And I think
my my problem with that was is it was going
into the Gansfeld experiment at that point. Yes, and that's
something that that's that's a very interesting thing also, right, Like,
because I used gas felt experiments all the time. I
got a little box, a little eminem ten box with

(47:32):
a sticker on it says gans felt. It's got like
half ping pong balls in it and ear plugs. So weird, man,
somebody find that, Like, what the world is wrong with this? Dude?
They didn't know your car said, it's my glove apartment.
I just hope I never get pulled over and stret
for that reason, not for like drugs or it's gonna
find on my weird stuff. Man. But yes, no, like

(47:57):
I thought it was. It was, Uh, it was. I
thought it was kind of inhibiting what I was trying
to do because I wanted people to experience the haunting
that that that's going on around them, Like I wanted
people to s okay, so initially that they did that
with the god Helmet experiments, right, Yes, And a big,

(48:17):
a big problem I saw with that is that, Okay,
if you see something right, and if it's not an
effect of the uh, the sensory deprivation that you're experiencing
because of the gas felt just by putting the ping
pong balls over your eyes, if it's not an effect
of that. Then then it's the you know, if it

(48:39):
is something paranormal was actually going on in front of you,
you wouldn't be able to see what it was doing
because you can't see if it's like interact, Is it
interacting with something? Is it? You know? What? Is it? Right?
It's just you know, like a unicorn riding up out
of nowhere. Usually is I see unicorns when I do
the gas felt I don't know why. Yeah, I saw
a unicorn. You saw one too.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
I've never done I've never done.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
You said me too.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, I think, don't you do that at the same
time and see what happens.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
You should. We'll have We'll have our our our twin unicorn.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Listen. I'm going to be investigating the Seely Roads House
Malibar Farms the end of September with David and I
want to do that experiment there because I connected with her.
Her birthday is we have the same birthday, March the thirteenth,
and I and they said, you picture. I didn't know
the history of this place and it's been on TV
and I still didn't know the history of it. And

(49:39):
I said, send me pictures. They send me pictures. Started
reading off the images and there was like my readings
off the images match. It matched people that experiences there.
So I'm really excited to go there. So that's one
of the experience experiments. I want to do it while
I'm in the house. So well, and if I get unicorns,

(50:02):
I will message you.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
There you go, So you're gonna do the games Felt there, right, yeah, yes, okay,
if you do the games Felt, please please please use
half ping pong balls half okay, yeah, half ping pong
balls and no just mask over your eyes? Is that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:21):
That I mean, just the ping pong balls on in
a mask over my eyes and that's it.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
No, no, no, no mask. You want you want the
ambient light, right, you want to? You you even want
to you see me like drowning out myself, right, I'm
like right, right, right, I say, right, but yeah, you
want you want the ambient light to come through. You know,
you want the you want the so so like you're

(50:50):
you're actually supposed to have like a flickering candle or
like a flickering l e or something in the room
with you also to just yeah mm hmmm, yep, candle.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
He listen.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
We had a question from somebody on our comments here,
James Thomas, and yeah, he wanted to know, Katie, what's
your opinion on laser grids. I want to know that too,
because you know what, I always see it on TV
because I never see anything well, you.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Know, laser grids. Laser grids are useful in situations. It's
specific situations, right, Like a lot of people will just
get them out like standard every go, we're getting out
the laser grid. Right, did you did you get the
laser grid? No? I forgot it, man, No, Yeah, but
but like, yeah, it's not standard, it's it's specific, I

(51:45):
think to shadow type activity, Like you have some place
where they've been experiencing a lot of shadow movement things
like that. You're just trying to catch something moving, right, Yeah,
you got a laser crystal.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that in a second.
I went ahead and brought it up, So go ahead
with the.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
So the laser grid thing, right, Like, it's useful, but
if you use it in a useful manner, it's useful. Right,
Like if you've got a DVR setup or something and
you've got some way to really record like hours of
this laser grid that you can go back through. And yes,
that's useful because you know, just the standard shadow can

(52:29):
be a lot more easily explained than if you have
a shadow passing in front of a light source and
projecting it's and if it does block out the light
and project that it's shadow back onto the wall behind it,
then that that is useful evidence. So they can be useful.
But also I've come to like the uh, the square

(52:52):
laser grid, yeah, opposed to the green dots, just because
like the square, you can you can build a an
idea of a representation of how big an object or
somebody was if they passed in front of this field.
If you know, you had this laser set back this
this far back and it's projecting this far out onto

(53:14):
this surface, you know, you can start getting uh, an
idea of size, right, So to me, that's more helpful.
So yes, they can be.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
So that brings me to this because you know, I
like my likes a glitter and fling all that stuff.
So so what's this experiment? What are you what are
you doing here with the courts in the in the
lasers and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Well that's that's that's part of one of many experiments
that's hard to explain, Okay, So, like I'm trying not
to sound like a complete loon. Uh So Okay, So
there's a there's a a large percentage of the paranormal

(54:02):
field that believes in metaphysical things, right, Yes, they believe
in using crystals and chakras and you know we weed whatever.
You know. Have you ever tried crystals on we? But yeah,

(54:24):
I'm gonna plead the fifth on that to pretend that
you call me out. So yes, So I find that
crystals historically have a very profound uh place in paranormal things, right, yes,

(54:44):
like India, like all over the world. Basically every culture
regards shiny these shiny minerals from the dirt important. So
I think they have some sort of relevance, right. So
I have literally tortured crystals in every way you can imagine.
Oh oh, I've beaten them with hammers. I've gonna say

(55:08):
this is a pg pg S. No, it's total oh
yeah man yeah, uh yeah. So this was This was
just one one of those times I wasn't actually tod
It's not a cutting laser or anything, but this is uh.
I was projecting the laser through the quartz and then

(55:30):
on the other side is what you can't see is
it would come out as this big like projection image
and it was kind of like all convoluted and and
you know, rotating and stuff. And it was very cool, right,
So I was thinking about maybe using something like that
for I. T. C. Purposes or something at some point

(55:51):
in the future. So you got y'all got me given
on my secrets.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Well, I know, I love that. It really grabbed my attention.
I was like, what the heck is this guy doing
with this?

Speaker 3 (56:00):
That is a really cool picture. It is a really
cool picture, the green and the green and the red.
And yeah, that's another you know, I'm infatuated with a
Sparkley thing. So lasers and crystals you go hand in
hand to me. But yeah, my friend Doug also does
a lot of stuff with crystals, and he actually he
used something similar. But hem he actually used like the laser.

(56:26):
The the laser uh darn it broadcast type basically is okay,
So he broadcast audio through a laser beam through a
crystal and then picked it up and modulated it on
the other side. The light that comes out right, because
we feel we feel like that that's a second form

(56:48):
of of or a second place for these spirits or
or whatever's trying to with this. It's a second the
second way for them to put their message. And you know,
like I kind of lean towards the belief that the
ghost boxes and things like that work off the well
and in a way they some things communicate through them

(57:11):
by projecting their voice through the EMF for the em field, right,
and and radio waves are part of the em field.
We have to keep that in mind. And so so
if we believe that the spirits can interact and manipulate
the electromagnetic field, then obviously we believe that that it's

(57:31):
possible for these same spirits or entities to uh interact
with the radio part of that field. And I mean,
you have to believe it's it's logical. If you believe
in the EMF correlation at all, you have to believe
that it's possible.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
So, yeah, Katie, I've seen some experiments with people shooting
different megahertz of sound and light and things of that
nature into crystals and more or less saying that they're
opening up portals and so and so on and so forth.
Are you kind of on that same kind of level there.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
I don't want to say, I'm trying to open portals
in the basement, but I'm trying to open basement. It's
not my mom's basement either, it's my basement.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I own this basement, right, anybody's in traveling, it's into
your basement, damn right, right.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Yeah, you have to first of all, make sure it's
not your mom's basement. Second of all, be responsible with
opening portals, you know, I mean, do you plan on
selling your house at some point? Things like that? Yeah,
but but uh jokes aside, Uh yeah, I think portal
like portal type activities is extremely cool to me. That's

(58:56):
that's one of my other little baby projects is this
portal chasing, you know, trying to figure out what is
there like a call sign that you get, like a
evidence that you can pick up the specific to a
portal and things like that. And so maybe opening portals
might have been part of that. And using crystals maybe

(59:16):
I love it. That's great. I mean, you know, I
think I think the cooler crystal experiments I did was
the electrocuting though. Really what electrocuting though with the high
voltage have seen that? No, I gotta y'all gotta go
look look at my YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
You YouTube, what's your YouTube what's your YouTube address?

Speaker 3 (59:37):
It's kind of it's kind of.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Uh uh, what happened to him? No, I had I
had one more thing. I was gonna ask him. Hold on,
he's coming back, He's coming back. Guess he's back back again.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
I do that. Okay, Uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna try
to like share this YouTube channel thing right here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Just tell me, tell me up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's paranormal mad scientists. Okay, the
normal man, I should come right up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Hold on, I'm just gonna add it in a crawler.
So people have been looking up, there's there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Are It's not like the best channel in the world.
And I'm not at all, like very punctual at uploading
videos and things of that nature. So if you go
on there and you start waiting on me to upload videos,
you may be waiting for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yes, sir, it was high voltage just will kick you
off the off the sigh. Voltage.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Yeah voltage, yeah, yeah. High voltage is a big thing
of mine. I use it for a lot of stuff.
I've got things like you know, like this just sitting
around like Tesla coils. Jacob flatters. Yeah, yeah, I like
to use uh high. When I say high voltage, I
mean at a minimum usually twelve thousand and fifteen thousand

(01:01:16):
bowls low low and just a small shock a little bit. Yeah, system,
it would hurt, but it probably probably it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
It's like an electric fence, probably a little bit worse. No,
don't pee on it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Okay, No, No, I will not be peeing on this
on my flatters anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
So we're gonna we're gonna have to get off here
here shortly time. It goes by so fast, I know it.
It goes by so fast, you're gonna have to come
back on when when I was looking you up, this
is now I could be wrong on this one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Oh god, you look me up? Did you google me?

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Don't get it Google, here's the deal. I googled what
adventure going to be in So Carolina? Para con was
the next one that could find. Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Actually, we've got a big one coming up this weekend,
coming weekend, okay, yep, and Lexington, Missouri, right here about
an hour away from Kansas City. It's gonna be the
big paranormal roundup. Paranormal task. Find that well, paranormal Task
Force has Facebook page. You can go on their Facebook
page you can find that, or you can find that
on my Facebook page, Kdie Stafford, or you can find

(01:02:32):
that on Supernatural Ink with a k Facebook page. There's
also a website Paranormal Roundup or Big Paranormal Roundup dot com,
so you can go there and look at it to
buy your tickets. So there's gonna be speakers there the
first day, September thirteenth and fourteenth, right, so it just
happens to be Friday the thirteenth, so there's gonna be

(01:02:55):
lots of speakers. And you were talking about Jason Haxton, Yeah,
with his dip box, he's going to be there talking
about the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Well, let me tell you, Jason Haxton is the let
me see there's you there? You all yeah a long instead.
But I'm glad, I'm glad you brought that up because
I am having a new show coming on here. But
it's for subscribers only, so they have to subscribe for
ninety nine a month, but it's uh cheap, that's cheap,

(01:03:27):
uh my Haunted Objects. So yeah, he's he's coming on
the second show. The first show is with David Pierre
Stroberge which is my boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
I have to have him on first show. No, I've
been following David for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Man, Oh well, listen, you all need to get together
because he's when it comes to gadgets and things like that.
I look up to him. He's he's the smart one
and hollered. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I've seen building robots and stuff, like the one time
I went to Florida one time, I'm like, like, hey man,
where you are bro hang up and almost stuff whatever,
nerd stuff nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
He's not good. He's not good with social media.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
He's not good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
But he's not good with the people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
You come to me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
If you're the people, you come to me. If you
need gadgets and robots, you go to David. But yeah,
but yeah, he builds robots. So Bobo the clown though
he has it's did not believe in Hantan objects until
I met this thing. I have class a e VPS
that has given me every time I listen to it
gives me goosebumps. This doll is super creepy. He's the

(01:04:35):
first show and then Jason Hackston is gonna be the
second show in October. So it's for subscribers only.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Yeah, I'll definitely be listening to the to that, so
but thank you for.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Me to that. But anybody, I have your Facebook up
Supernatural Inc. Paranormal so on Facebook, any other way that
anybody can reach out to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
You, or I'm on Instagram supernatural roll underscore ink with
a k uh and yeah, that's that's pretty much it.
I was giving out my business card up until recent
pretty pretty freely with my phone number on it. Yeah. Changed.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
You know I'm gonna put your I'm gonna put your
phone number out there on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
You're not gonna dox me?

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Who I'm taking this to Reddit? Dannit? Hold on?

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
It was a paranormal person, It wasn't. It wasn't Zach.
Does Zach do it to Aaron Goodwin? I think Zach
did it one time to Aaron where he kept his
fitting his cell phone out and Aaron had to keep
getting his number changed.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
So dirty, so dirty?

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Please please everybody go to Katie's Facebook page. Awesome genius,
I call him genius. Mad scientists paranormal math scientists. Uh,
awesome things coming up. I want David to contact you
about a helmet because I want one. I'm sure he
wants want.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
To Yeah, man, I want to talk to David. So
if you if you want a helmet, David's got to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Okay, I will till they Well, I'm holding.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
A helmet hostage until David.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Listen. Listen. Here's what I'm going to do to you
every Sunday night. Because we're in a long distance relationship.
We watched Fear of the Walking Dead together and then
we call each other during commercials.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Okay, there you go to tell him, be like, look,
I'm not watching.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Fear of the Walking deads not until he contacts you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Yeah, like, you know, tell him. You can't, like celeb
put down KD. You know, I know he's a big
deal and everything gonna make some time for KD.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
What does what does Katie stand for?

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Kenneth Douglas, Kenneth Kenneth Douglas.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
That's a good name. That's a good strong name, Kenneth.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
My dad wanted to name me Kenneth. I'm actually named
after some dude. It was in World War two somehow.
I don't know. I think my granddad named my dad
after him, his buddy that died World War two. So yeah,
so I'm actually named after KT A big guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
You better hold him accountable right here, Gonna message you
my phone number, Katie.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
What happened? What happened?

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
David left to call me? Gonna miss my phone number, kat.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
I see it, I saw something. Yeah, Okay, all right,
David cool man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
All right, Well, thank you so much for coming on. Okay,
we really you're gonna have to come on again because
you're super fun and you're so smart and you do
so much. So uh next week. Actually, I'm hoping to
be I have I haven't got well, I have confirmation.
I'm just hoping that it's gonna work Out'm gonna be
live from Bobby Mackie's. Yeah, and we'll hopefully, hopefully you'll

(01:07:52):
be part of that too. I'll send you a link
on that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Well, I just want to let you know, will that
I listen to Durk Fringe. Do you you like it? I? Yeah,
I do? Awesome man, Thank you for I've been listening
to that. Actually, thank you, thank you. Emily. If we
do this again, don't don't do that, don't do the
floating head thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Well, you know what I was gonna say, I'm going
to be the floating man. I'm going to be the
floating head at Bobby Macki's next week Dollan of Hell.
I like the floating head. It kind of reminds me
of like Alice in Wonderland or something at the museum.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
I like, yeah, wanted to your cat, Yeah, chas your cat.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Well, thank you for everybody that tuned in and was watching,
surely appreciate it. Please please share, share this video or
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A lot of new things coming about four months is
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so much. Awesome Coast, Thank you, Katy and everybody have

(01:08:55):
an awesome, awesome week. Friday the thirteenth coming up, which
I was born on Friday thirteen, so it's a lucky
number for me. So yeah, thank you all for watching.
See you next week.