Doors of Perception: Psychedelics, Government Conspiracies w/ FKN Chris Mathieu

Chris Mathieu, the host of the Forbidden Knowledge News podcast, engages in conversations with experiencers and researchers delving into the all things forbidden..... We will delve into his podcasting journey and uncover captivating moments from his eclectic array of guests...... We will also dive into Chris's latest documentary series "Occult Louisiana" This exploration unravels the tales of Swamp Magic and Voodoo... which have transcended New Orleans and become ingrained in the broader American folklore..... Yet, is there a concealed and enigmatic aspect to these mystical powers that eludes the comprehension of the average person???? What really lives in the swamplands????

The Forbidden Documentary: Doors of Perception

Doors of Perception is a fearless exploration of consciousness through dreams, altered states, non-human contact, near-death experiences, and the profound contact and synchro-mystic events that connect us to what lies beyond.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
The h.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah you do that.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
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Oh my gosh, how are you doing. It's been a
long time.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
It feels like I know, it feels like forever now right,
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I've had to reschedule two back to back shows. No
water last week, fea, eema came in, Ema came in.
That's what happens when you live in a poor town where
we put sports ahead of infrastructure.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
That's crazy. Yeah, sports ahead of infrastructure. Right, get the water,
but let's make sure that high school football team plays
on Friday night, right, Yeah, we'll make.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Sure they got new complexes and all that kind of stuff.
But yeah, we got about the infrastructure, but actually it
wiped out a whole big chunk of us here. Everything's
working good now, so they fixed it. Hopefully we won't
have to have another problem. But yeah, we had a reschedule,
But thank you everybody for tuning in. It's been a
couple of weeks, and we may have to reschedule some
other things here in March because AAU season has kicked

(03:44):
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So yes, so just bear with us, everybody that faithfully
watches us and just tune in. Try to tune in
every Friday and just see if we're going live or not.
But that's what's going on. But what's going on Dark
Friend Radio.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Well, we've had a couple of weeks off, but tomorrow
we have a new episode dropping and we're gonna be
talking about the mysterious plane incidents that's been happening since
the beginning of the year. So I know it's kind
of been quiet as of recent but me and Jay,
my co host, we're going to kind of talk about
what's been going on, kind of talk about some of
the individual incidentss and kind of comes to our own

(04:23):
conclusions of what happened and what we think happened or
what's happening. So check that out dark friend radio dot
com tomorrow that'll be dropping and hope you guys enjoyed that.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, I'll definitely have that on my list to listen
to this week. But yeah, there's just so many incidences
you can't overlook it at this point. I don't think. Yeah,
it's tough so right for the people that still use
the airlines. I'm scared to even fly.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
I was supposed to fly actually next week, and then yeah, yeah, yeah,
so and thank god they were like, no, you don't
have to go, you don't have to come. I was like,
you know what, that's great. I'm actually okay with that
right now. But actually, and then next week we have
another episode coming out because we've filled actually a couple
of episodes back to back. We did an episode called Dungeons,
Dragons and Demon.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Like the game.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
We're talking about the game and how it all started
and how it went through the whole eighties Satanic countic
era and to where it is now, where it's actually
become so popularized. Now you have you know, celebrities actually
doing like YouTube videos playing Dungeons and Dragons. It's absolutely crazy.
So we'll talk about that.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
I've never played that. I'm gonna have to check into
that too. I was Halo and Call of Duty.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
That so well.

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I'm on three more people subscribers, So QR codes up
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if you don't want to subscribe, that's fine. By his coffee. Actually,
I've come to my coffee era. I'm in my mid forties,
we're getting ready to be in my mid forties. I
have bought coffee almost every day for ten days now.
Oh no, I'm officially hooked.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
I thank you, so officially hooked.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Days ten days.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
That's one thing I've never picked up is that is
that particular habit is coffee.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
I don't drink coffee well.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I've needed it for the last for work and everything.
I'm just being exhausted. So yeah, buy me a coffee,
I will, I will by will some tequila.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, we need to change it like tequila too. So anyway,
we have a special guest on this evening. We've had
a rescheduling, but he he is the one that's behind
Forbidden Knowledge News, which you all see a lot at
the end of the show. Everything we're in with that group.
That network is a really awesome network, has plenty of
shows on it, but the founder of it is Chris Matthew,

(07:28):
and he has his own podcast, Forbidden Knowledge News, and
it rolled over into the network. He spent many years
uncovering hidden truths through riveting conversations with experiences with experiencers
and researchers of the unexplained. Last time we had him on,
we talked about a cult Louisiana, which was his first
documentary that he put out. I talked about swamp magic
and voodoo and all kinds of stuff down in Louisiana

(07:50):
that stays in Louisiana. Hopefully, excuse me, Nolans. We got
in which Appalachia is magic. I don't think it's called that.
I'll figure it out as the time goes. But we're
gonna be having him back on this evening. We're gonna
be talking about his new documentary that's come out. I

(08:11):
Forbidden documentary, Doors of Perception, a fearless dive into consciousness,
altered states, non human contact, we talk about shaman, we
talk about near death experiences. This documentary is fabulous, fabulous.
I'm so excited ha him back on. But before we
bring him on, I'm gonna go ahead and play his
trailer here and then we'll have Chris Line and we'll

(08:32):
talk about it.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
The nature of this experience seems to always be just
beyond the reach of our science, technology, and consciousness collective.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
There's layers upon layers upon layers.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Does add such an element of mystery to this place?

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Why are we here?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
We're getting closer to the truth now. There's too many
people experiencing profound interactions with conscious entities.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
I'm focused on the non human intelligence contact phenomenon in dreams.
Dreams involve interactions with real entities.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
People are waking up paralyzed their sensing or seeing something
very evil in the room.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
I have experienced sleep paralysis shadow people start to appear.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
I was taken from my earliest memories by non human
alien entities. More and more people are wanting to talk
about these things.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
A upologist would say, well, that's obviously an extraterrestrial in
our paranormal research, which they will have the ghost. Well
what if it's all of those things in none.

Speaker 8 (09:48):
Of those things, the entities, the intelligence that were just
beyond our understanding.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
There seems to be something a little extra that can
take forms of anything.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
I can't believe what I've seen, but it continues on
a daily basis.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
We're definitely not alone.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
UFOs, UAPs, portals opening up.

Speaker 9 (10:08):
I've lived with all this supernatural stuff. You kind of
grow up with that. Around here, you see a lot
of strange things. I don't like to talk about skinwalkers
too much.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I had an experience with a skinwalker entity.

Speaker 9 (10:25):
People they would say they were transform into bears, into wolves.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
There's these bad things that.

Speaker 9 (10:31):
Occur, goals, UFOs, and all types of things coming from somewhere.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Our beliefs, our emotions, and our fears all seemed to
heavily influence the nature of these experiences.

Speaker 8 (10:46):
There is so much more that we just don't have
time for in this busy, loud and noisy life that
we lead.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
All of this is planned, Everything is synchronicity. There's so
much more out there.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
We really are picking up such a small, small percentage
of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
The world is an amazing place.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
It feels like we're God's in training.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
There we go come into a platform near you. But
you can go ahead and check it out this evening.
You can rent it or buy it right Chris, can
you hear me?

Speaker 6 (11:22):
Hello? Hello? Yes, sorry, I forgot I Yes, that is correct.
You can rent or purchase it right now. We have
a Vimeo ott site and I think you have those
links there, Yes I do. I don't have the exact
side available with me right now, but you can also
go to our website Forbidden Knowledge dot News and access

(11:43):
it through there as well.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
That was an awesome trailer.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
I love you.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Makes me want to watch it again because we got
a screener. I felt so special when I got that.
I was like, I don't know if I've ever got
a screener before in my life. It's a really great
documentary and you point out all kinds of different topics
and things. But before we get into it, but just
welcome back to the show. Chris, thank you so much
for coming on and being a guest.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
Thank you, Hey, Emily, Will, thank you both for having me.
It's great to be back. Looking forward to discussing this
with you guys.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Absolutely, and you know, thank you for also letting us
be part of the network for being a knowledge news network.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
Really great. Love what you guys do, so thank you.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Well you do what you do an awesome job. So
let's get into this this evening real quick because there's
tons of topics I have written down and of course
we probably will never get through all of them, but
just start off. So doors of perception is this documentary
and things? And yes, I expected there would be a

(12:52):
lot of different perceptions in it, watching watching it. But
what made you? What inspired you to create this documentary
in the first place? Have you had experiences and all
these different elements.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
That you talk about, Well, what inspired me to do this?
Really was my show. This was going to be the
first film that I wanted to make, but I really
didn't know how to put it all together. Like you said,
it's a lot of topics and I decided to do
it called Louisiana first because that was pretty easy for me.
I grew up there, I pretty much knew what I

(13:27):
was getting into and how to put it together. This
was more involved, and it was kind of like putting
a puzzle together with all these different topics. But I
myself have never experienced anything paranormal until a certain point,
until I actually put myself through experiences you could say,

(13:48):
through meditation and psychedelics. But growing up, I never really
experiencing anything that I can remember. The one thing that
I have experienced is sleep paralysis. I talk about it
in the movie, and it was only for a couple
of years. It was, you know, during a bad period
of my life, and it was terrifying those experiences I had.
But that was the extent of anything that may be

(14:11):
considered paranormal that I've experienced. But once I started doing
this show and decided that I wanted to put this
movie together, that was around the same time that I
had started doing psychedelics for my own personal healing journey
and to really expand my consciousness, you could say, see

(14:32):
what else was out there. And I was very curious
about quote unquote contact experiences that people had while they've
had these psychedelic experiences and I experienced contact a few
year about a year before I started the psychedelics through
a meditative experience, and I understand what I made contact with,

(14:53):
as you could call it your higher self, your spirit guide,
you know, your guardian angel, whatever you want to call this.
I believe I made contact with that and it really
helped me guide me to my healing journey. And I
included a little bit about that in the film as well.
But it wasn't until I started the psychedelics, which was

(15:16):
actually suggested to me by this guide that I made
contact with, and I used magic mushrooms. They happened to
be legal in the state that I just moved to, Colorado,
so I started growing them and I had very profound experiences,
some terrifying, some amazingly beautiful, but all extremely beneficial and

(15:39):
very healing. And that was the extent of my own
personal experiences and it really helped with inspiration on how
to put everything in the film together.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Very nice.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
That is very nice. Psychedelics. See were on last time
we were talking about it and we talked about that experience.
Everybody can go over to the part one. I think
that was a year ago. Can you believe that was
a year ago talking us about Yeah part one. I
don't put that link up in the description after the
show too, to talk about psychedelics, because before we went live,

(16:11):
I you know, I'm a proponent for marijuana. I am,
but I could never push myself through the psychaedelics you need.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
To try, Emily, It's.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
No.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
You always hear about the bad experiences, but the people,
the good experiences, the ones are the best. I'm telling you, Yeah,
those are the ones that really happened. More often than
what you think. Everybody wants to talk about the bad stuff,
right and anything right well.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
To me, even the worst experience I had was ended
up being amazing once the we's complete and once you
come back from it, it could be terrifying, but you
learn so much from it and you grow from it.
And whatever the terrifying part, whether you come into contact
with a nasty spiritual entity or the room starts melting,

(17:00):
or whatever you're experiencing, from what I understand, it's representative
of something that you need to work on, something you
need to face, an emotion, a trauma, a childhood trauma.
These things come out as representatives of those things you
need to work on. And if you run away from it,
it's gonna the trip's gonna be even worse. But if
you face it head on and you, you know, do

(17:23):
your best to conquer whatever is presenting itself to you,
then the experience transforms and it becomes something beautiful and
you end up healing yourself from it.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
That's true, very true. I attested that I've had that.
I've had that experience, So I know what he's talking about.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Will needs to be in documentary Doors of no.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
No no no no by no means, by no means. But
what I'm saying, what he's saying is true.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
It's just like, yeah, you have these different things that
happen to you, and some are good, some are bad,
but all in all you learn something from it.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
I can't do it. I can't let my man go there.
I have anxiety. I was like, I cannot like me,
I have nightmares, I have bad dreams that will stick
with me for days on it.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Last time I didn't, I was sitting here right here,
in this and I'm looking at this wall and everything
is just like.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
That's I don't know how else to explain it. It's
just like I.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Thought we was going to say, you know that last
time that our last show for gloves.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
Just played it off really well.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
I just played it off really well, really well. But no,
but it's Chris.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
It's interesting because you talk about so many different aspects
of different, you know, subject matter. It's funny because if
anybody were to ask me, hey, like what do you
guys talk about in your podcast? I was like, check
out this guy's So check out this guy's documentary because
this explains everything right here.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
But you know, you talk about sleep aaralysis.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
And that's something that I kind of wanted to touch on
because it's actually it affects a lot more people than
what we all know. I think there's like an estimated
around a couple hundred thousand people that suffer from this.
And I don't know, do you do you think it's
because you mentioned it and when when you talked about
in your personal experience that you were going through a

(19:11):
very kind of like traumatic part of your life at
that point. Do you think a lot of that trauma
kind of brings on that that that sleep prolyssis door
opening from somebody?

Speaker 6 (19:22):
I would have to say yes, especially in my own experience.
I can't speak for ever for everyone else, but I
do know that a lot of the experiences of sleep
paralysis that I've spoken to, they tend to have been
in bad states of mind whenever these things start to occur.
And I myself was going through a divorce. It was

(19:44):
a terrible time in my life, really, and I was
at a bad job, and it was for almost two
years straight. Every time I'd go to sleep, I would
get to this one point where I was like half
a sleep, half awake, and I was very conscious of
what was happening, but I couldn't move, and just things
would start escalating. I'd start to see shadows. I'd start

(20:06):
to see people walking up and down the hallways, not
just one, but like I said in the movie, it
looked like a party of shadow people in the next room,
just like walking around. And eventually it escalated to like
loud noises above me, and they'd get louder until I'd
get so scared I'd force myself somehow out of whatever paralysis,

(20:27):
whatever that is. And it definitely seemed to coincide with that,
because after I got myself into a better state of mind,
after the divorce was complete, that never happened again. Although
there have been times where when people describe out of
body experiences. They described this vibratory state that they get into,

(20:49):
and I've kind of experienced that a few times, especially
when I try and nap during the day. I get
into that weird vibratory state where it's kind of like
I'm paralyzed, but if I try to move, I'll just
pop right out of it. So I'm not sure if
there's some kind of connection there. I'm pretty sure there is,
because I think that there's a connection between these astral experiences,

(21:09):
the out of body experiences, and the sleep paralysis states.
And I think there's connections between all the topics that
I discussed in the film as well, but I'm sure
we'll get to that.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Well, I mean when I think of sleep paralysis and
the stories that I know of my friends going through it,
I've never gone through that and things, but it's really
associated with a lot of paranormal activity with that, and
I think you do speak about about paranormal activity in
the documentary. So do you think that the sleep paralysis

(21:42):
portion or maybe all of these are kind of connected.
It's definitely spiritual. Is there demonic entities that could this
be oppression, possession or anything that's.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
The question, isn't it so? Well, I guess we'll dive
straight into the deep end and we'll dissect every.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Thing from the.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Well.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
So where I'm at with all of this is there,
There's multiple possibilities. But the way I like to look
at it that the current understanding I have of paranormal activity,
alien contact, all these paranormal even near death experiences, is
that our consciousness is experiencing a different state of existence,

(22:31):
a different reality, if you will, and within that reality
it lies just beyond what we can perceive in this
material realm, and within just beyond that, there's an ecosystem
of I guess you could say intelligences, life forms, etheric intelligences,
if you will. Some are positive and some are extremely negative,

(22:54):
which you might call demons, and the very positive ones
you might call angels. It all depends on how you
interpret it. But where I'm at is I think that
all these things that exist beyond our perception, if you
compare it to a simulation theory, they're part of a program.
They're part of a matrix, a world program that we

(23:17):
are here to learn from, and these things can present
themselves as whatever they want depending on our perception of
things at the time. So I believe paranormal experiences passed
through our perception filter. If we're in a bad state,
if we think everything is doom and gloom, and we're

(23:38):
happen to be being abducted by aliens at the same time,
or our house is haunted, it's going to pass through
that filter of trauma that you're experiencing in your waking life,
and you're probably going to experience very negative things during
those abduction experiences, during the haunting, during the altered state,
during the if you take mushrooms or you take psychedelics,

(24:00):
I think that connection, you're making, that connection to that
other realm with that as well, and your state of
mind is going to dictate how that experience is going
to come out. Now, if you're in a negative state
of mind, it's going to attract those nasty things, those
nasty demonic intelligences. They are attracted to that negative energy
coming off, and they're going to try and interact with you.

(24:22):
They're going to try and infiltrate you. They'll you know, possession.
It could go up to that. If you perpetuate that
state of mind, or if you're in the darkest enough
state of mind, you're doing a lot of drugs, things
of that, you know, bad drugs, uh, pharmaceuticals, those types
of things. It's going to attract those things as well.

(24:43):
And I think that they can appear as anything that
they want to, and it's also reflected based on your
emotions and things like that. But I also think that's
what alien abductions are. I think there's different sides of that.
We can get deep into this as well. I think
there's a military abduction, physical extraterrestrial psychological operation thing, and

(25:05):
then there's a psychological we are going to some other
realm and interacting with something, but that's more of an
etheric spiritual consciousness phenomenal. And I think the physical one
is being manipulated and that's what we're seeing with the
quote unquote disclosure, and we're basically being put through a
mind control psychological operation. But that's just my you know,

(25:29):
my theory on that, you know, But that's just really
where I'm at with everything now, with basically everything parent.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Yeah, Chris, let me ask you a quick question. There's
one particular story that was in your documentary. Was this
older lady how she was constantly getting pregnant? And yes,
and It was such a fascinating story and I was
just like so taken back by it because every time,
you know, she would get pregnant, and you know, she
would wait to see if it would actually happen, and

(25:58):
it really wouldn't happen. So then the theory was she'd
be impregnated by these you know nhis. I mean, we'll
explain that part to me, because that was fucking phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
This is a tough one.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
So this is Karen Wilkinson's story. She has a book,
Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest. Emily should have her on your show.
She does a great interview, but she has been taken
from a very early age by these entities. She does
consider them demons. She does not consider these extraterrestrials. It's

(26:33):
just because her experiences have been so nefarious. But she
also has a quote unquote military handler that shows up
during these experiences. So that's where the military thing comes in.
I believe that what she's experiencing is part of this
you know, mk ultra quote unquote secret space type clandestine

(26:56):
operation that people are being there being infiltrated, they're being
experimented on, for lack of better words, and I think
that's what the whole negative abduction thing is for the
most part, especially if you're interacting with military officers during
your experience, along with a mantis being and a gray
extraterrestrial and a dude in a military outfit, there's.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Something going going.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
Right right right, So I believe that there's some kind
of deception there. There's either we're working with some kind
of demonic entities or it's the military completely trying to
deceive humanity, And for some reason, it's one of those
two things, because there is a separate from there's a
real phenomenon. It's what I've experienced, many other people experienced

(27:44):
through the consciousness connection, but the physical thing where like
Karen's where people are being taken and they're getting impregnated,
and she actually has proof that she was pregnant. She
goes to the doctor, it's verified. She has an experience
where she's taken in the night she is experimenting on
and then the next time she goes to the doctor,

(28:06):
they say she was never it's like she was never
even pregnant. And then she has these other experiences where
she's taken back on the ship and she is presented
by these alien beings babies that they claim are hers,
and they tell her to try and nurture the baby
and hold the baby and get it to connect with her.
And she claims that there's some sort of strange hybridization

(28:28):
program going on and the military seems to be involved
with it, and it's some of the craziest stuff I've
ever heard. But she's not the only one that I've
heard stories like this from. I've had other experiencers on
the show who claim to have experienced the very same thing, pregnancies,
children missing, being taken on ship, being presented babies, told

(28:51):
them to try and bond with the babies. Now, there's
too many people having the same experiences for their just
to be some kind of you know, psychosomantique situation there.
So I think there's something going on. I think there's
something going on with the military, especially with these really
nefarious things that happened, physical things that happen to people. So, yeah,

(29:13):
Karen story's wild, it's a wild Well, it.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Just reminds me of just because I saw La Marzouli
forwarded her book, which he's been on the show too,
just is it the nephilm then, Like, is it are
we dealing with that because it's always been about bloodlines.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
You know, it depends on how you interpret the nephilim.
It could be that then, you know, the nephilium are
supposedly interpreted as the dead spirits of the giants that
inhabit you know, the earth, and they can possess people.
But if these are indeed spiritual etheric entities, they could

(29:50):
also be considered these non corporeal quote unquote aliens, demons,
interdimensional beings, whatever you want to call them. It's it's
all based on your understanding and interpretation. But yeah, basically
it could be the same thing as a nephelum. Really well,
we got.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
A lot of you know, movies and songs we have
for Rosemary's babies comes to my mind of the spawn
of Satan, all those kinds of things. Or we got
Katy Perry and Kanye singing the et song.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
Oh, I see what you're saying. Are these babies like
are they manufacturing nephilaster that.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Or is she really pregnant? And then they take the
baby and.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Like, well, here's this is a from a testimony from
a whistle quote unquote whistleblower that I had on a
while back. This gentleman claimed to have been from an
Illuminati family and he had supposedly very powerful psychic abilities.
He was able to leave the family as long as

(30:52):
he agreed that he couldn't say certain things. He could
talk about some things. And I think this guy throws
out a lot of misinformation I throws I think he
throws out a little truth with some things, just like
all these you know, high level whistleblowers do. But he
was saying something interesting. He's saying he's occasionally taken to
these underground bases where they have quote unquote just giants

(31:13):
in stasis in these stasis chambers, and he telepathically communicates
with him and supposedly, sometime in the near future they're
going to be released upon the earth. And this is
based on his testimony, So take that with a grain
of salt. I don't know. I speak with you know,
some interesting cats all the time, like, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
I get it, me too, I understand.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, yeah, I believe in giants. I think they exist.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Oh yeah, there's things.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
In nature right now that you can see that was
built that look like steps that are not for normal humans.
I mean things of that nature.

Speaker 6 (31:51):
I mean there's too much evidence that to yeah, to
point to anything else.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I believe the giant of Kandahar, the candor our giants,
that's a crazy story and everything, So.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
I do I think in Afghanistan, right, is that right?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah? Or the military one of the military people got
killed and the giant was redheaded. I like that they
said it was redhead because there's a lot of connections
with redheads. They're fiery.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
I came on and told you guys about the reptilian
experience I.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Had, Yeah, your girlfriend, Yeah, I believe in reptilians. I do.
I think they're cold blooded. I think there's something about
them and they shape shift. I don't know if they
are like skinwalker ranch what are what are these? Uh
what they call them? It skinwalker. I don't know if

(32:55):
it's a skinwalker. Yeah, I don't know if it's that
or not. But I saw a reptilian too at one point,
but it was more spiritual speaking and that's we can
talk later because I want to talk more about this.
But I saw something at eighteen years old in church,
so it's interesting. I believe you. I think she slept

(33:17):
with lizards, so did what's his face from spat smashing
pumpkins Billy Corgan. Yeah, yeah, it was his girlfriend too,
like stay away from snakes. But any other questions you
want to ask about that will before?

Speaker 5 (33:36):
Oh No, not about that particular thing. But I want
to get into the skinwalker stuff. I want to get
into all the other things that you talk about. There's
so many others. Oh, it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Something I never heard of in the documentary that you
talk about is dream shamanism. What is that about? Like,
I mean, I've watched the documentary, I understand a little
bit now, but I've never heard of that until this.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Yes, so dream shamanism I had Daniel Rekshan. He is
the chief dream Officer at dream Well, which they help
people do dream interpretation, lucid dreaming, things of this nature
connecting with their dreams. And dream shamanism is basically a

(34:20):
combination of lucid dreaming and bringing back information to help
you along your path you know your spiritual path, and
help you if you have any unresolved trauma, any answers
to questions you're looking for. You can combine these lucid
dreaming techniques and a form of contact with either whatever

(34:44):
you want it to be is Jesus, your guides, whatever
you feel comfortable with, and request information or healing or
whatever you're needing, and that's it can be achieved in
those ways by connecting with them that you know, those
intelligences that we can come into contact with their dreams.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Part of that is astral traveling and things of that nature.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
Right, it's all connected astral traveling. You can even think of,
you know, if you can manage an out of body
experience through dreams. It's all pretty much information gathering and
healing and experience.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
It's so funny because like in the Hispanic community, it's
you know, I'm not sure if you know this or not,
Emily or Chris, but we actually very big proponents of
trying to decipher dreams and what they need.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
And so even to the point.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
Where they even like they have books on okay, like
if you dreamt a cat, this is what this means,
or if you dreamt this situation, this is what this means.
They actually have a book of dreams about like all
these interpretations of it. So it's really interesting that you
talk about it because it's like I grew up with
that stuff and you know that's just normal. I mean
it's like, it's not something abnormal for me, you know

(36:00):
what I mean, Like, Hey, what did you dream about?
And then everybody gets together like, oh, let's go consult
the book. Let's go see what the book says, or
some already knows what the book you know, is is
is going to say about it, you know what I mean,
because they've already had that dream or something before. So
it's really interesting how that whole aspect of trying to
interpret you know, what you're doing in a different.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Mindset as far as being to sleep.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
And that's one of the most focal things that you
talk about in your documentary is that that's the one
thing that connects us all is dreaming and you know,
being able to contact each other and maybe even you know,
like what Emily said, doing that shamanic you know, uh,
you know, dreaming kind of you know therapy. It's it's
it's really interesting that you brought that up. I really

(36:43):
thought that was a really, you know, very very poignant
part of the documentary.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I wish that I could remember
my dreams more. I'm in the process of trying to
do some lucid dreaming techniques, like have you guys heard
of the rubber band technique where you wear a rubber
band on your arm during the day and you snap
it every once in a while. And if you happen

(37:09):
to be in a dream and you go for the
rubber band and it isn't there, you'll know you're in
a dream, and then you'll be able to control the dream.
And there's other techniques trying to find words in your dreams,
and if you can't read them, if the letters are
all jumbled, you'll know again that you're in a dream.
Different techniques like that, so I can, first of all,
start to remember the dreams even more. Also, when I

(37:31):
wake up, I jot down what I do remember. That
also helps. But practicing these techniques are also good ways
to try and get into that lucid dreaming state. And
I've almost like I've achieved it for like it seems
like a minute or two, and then I fall back
into not knowing what the hell I'm doing, and like
riding a pony in the sky or something.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
I have never tried that ever, but I will tell
you I've had so many dreams I have read occurring
dreams of tornadoes first and foremost, and second of all
I have dreams.

Speaker 6 (38:05):
I've had those.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
I've had dreams that are so real, like I don't
control myself in it. I'm usually the spectator and said
everything like January of last year, or whenever, whenever Hawaii happened,
Mali happened January, that Mali happened in August or September
that year. In January, I had a dream that woke

(38:26):
me up at four o'clock in the morning, and it
was so real. I was crying. I felt sick to
my stomach and I had a dream like I was
looking up in the sky. It was all gray. It
sounded like helicopters up their airplanes up there. It was
so hot and I thought of volcano even I made
a post about it on social media January because it

(38:46):
was so hot and I felt like a volcano erupted.
And I heard I saw a sign Hawaii, and I
heard somebody yell this way to Hawaii, and I go
there and I hear all this screaming yelling, and it's
like it's happening again. It's happening again. So I didn't
know what is happening again. Met I woke up and
I was so affected by that like I was shaking,
I was crying. It felt real. I made a post

(39:08):
about it, and then eight months later, nine months later,
what happened to MAUI happened, But what I thought was
planes in the sky was the wind. It was the
wind in the videos I watched, and it was the fire.
And I've had several dreams like that, and things have
come to pass after that, but it feels so real,

(39:29):
like I'm there, what do you have?

Speaker 6 (39:33):
Those One of the most real dreams I've had. I
tell you one of the most real I had. It
was a few years ago. It was with an ex girlfriend.
It wasn't their reptilian but we were both sleeping and
I was dreaming that I was I had a bag
over my head and I was tied to a chair
and I was being tortured by these two thugs. And

(39:54):
then they started water boarding me, and I'm like drowning
and drowning, and then I slowly waking up. And as
I'm waking up, I realized that someone's pouring water on
my head. And what happened was my ex girlfriend was
reaching over to grab her cup of water and she
accidentally spilled it all over me. But it was unfolding

(40:15):
and like slow motion in my dream, and it was
like I was being waterboarded for like ten minutes, it
seemed like, but it was only a split second that
she dropped the water on my head and everything. I
was like, whoa, it was a crazy that's.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
Weird because and I've had experiences like that too, Chris,
because I've had a dream where I was asleep and
I'm having this full on dream, like vivid dream that
like I'm gonna be shot by somebody, and I turn
around and start running right, and all of a sudden,
I just feel something in my back, like you know.
Then I wake up boom right, And then I've been

(40:49):
laying on the remote control for the TV the entire night.
That's exactly spot where I got shot.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
I'm like, what the hell sor remote is that?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
It is.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Magnetic energy off the avenue in the middle of the.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Nut giving me horrible dreams of being shot in the back. Yeah, no,
it's horrible I had.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
I'll just say this on the record since I don't
know what happened to Chris, hopefully he'll sign back on.
But I'll say I had a dream here recently that
was really real, and I woke up and I'll just
put this on the record. I didn't make a post
about it, but I told a handful of my close
friends about this. I was over it was dealt with tornadoes,
and I was over and it was all sandy, and

(41:31):
there was this it looked like a pond, but it
might have been a river, a little bit bigger than
the river. All of a sudden, these two tornadoes come
up out of the river and they were black as
black can be. And I heard somebody say, just like
the Hawaii somebody yelling at I said, that's Israel. Went
and over to Israel, and I'm looking and these tornadoes

(41:53):
are coming, come and coming, and I turn around and
I see somebody, but he was so fast and he's
like right, and I take off running and I start
running up this hill. It was all sand and I
couldn't get up the hill and this blackness was taken
over and it says, you're in Jordan. And then I
woke up and that just happened, probably three or four

(42:13):
months ago. And then I looked it up. Between Jordan
and Israel's the Dead Sea. So I don't know if
something might happen in that area, but there was two tornadoes.
They were black as can be, and I woke up
just like how I did with Hawaii. I wasn't crying.
I didn't hear screams of pain or anything like that.
Just heard run and like you're in Jordan. But there

(42:36):
was a panic and it felt like I was right there.
I was sweating when I woke up. But yeah, Chris,
do you think that.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Do you think when we dreamed, you think we were
just bleeding over from other you know, possible universes, and
then it just you know, all these infinite universes, the
multiverse they call it.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
Yeah, i'd postulate that it's possible. It would be very
interesting if that's what we're doing, if we're experiencing another
version of ourself unfolding. I would say that. But sometimes
dreams are so abstract and they just they don't fit together.
As even if it would be some kind of parallel reality,

(43:17):
there's some things that just don't seem to fit. So
what I would say is it's just a different state
of consciousness, that is that can be considered a different reality.
It's it's like a I think that there's layers beyond,
layers beyond our perception. Maybe you could call it. There's

(43:37):
an astral layer right say, on top of our realm,
and that's probably where the dreams unfold. And then we
have higher realms where they have these other different types
of beings, and you know, all the way up to
what you would, you know, consider the angelic realms, and
I think they have lower realms as well, you know,

(43:57):
beyond the lower astrals where they have the negative types
of entities, And I think we can slip in in
and out to those lower and higher realms and experience
bits and pieces of that during dreams as well, and
as well as these altered states and these other types
of you know, contact experiences that people have.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Well in the documentary too, you talk about near death
experiences too, so you know a lot of especially the testimonies,
a lot of them talk about the tunnel and everything
going to the light and all that kind of stuff.
Is that considered dream state as well? Like what's the
difference between a you know, near death experience compared to

(44:43):
a dream. Was there a difference?

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (44:45):
I couldn't tell you. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't
a difference, because I tell you what, when I've had
my profound psychedelic experiences, and they were just as profound
as an out of body experience. I would be in
a different place, I would be interacting with different diferent things,
and while I was there, it seemed more real than
this reality, and I could really kind of compute things

(45:09):
and understand things as they were unfolding. But when I
came back from that experience, it just melted into a
dream and it became very dreamlike. And I think that's
very similar to what people experience during some near death experiences,
although it can vary. And what really fascinates me about
the near death aspect is the similarities. We have the tunnel,

(45:35):
we have, the meeting with the benevolent entities, but they
may present themselves as something different. They may present themselves
as family members, as Jesus, as angels. You know, some
people have experienced just shapes and colors that you know
would communicate to them. So it again, I think this

(45:57):
is passing through that person's person uptual lens. I think
we carry that with us whenever we cross over to
the other side. We have a portion of the way
we view things in this reality that carries over to
that near death experience, and it also passes through that lens.
Maybe it sheds out eventually and we lose that identity

(46:18):
with this reality. But again, even when I've had my
most profound psychedelic experience, it was always kind of passing
through the filter of where I was at spiritually, emotionally, mentally,
and it would always during a very powerful experience, it
would also shift my perception a bit to where I

(46:41):
viewed the world a little bit differently each time I
came back from that experience. And that also happens with
near death experiences to a very extreme degree sometimes that
you know, most of these people completely change their lives.
If they're not having a good experience before, they will
completely shift to something different and start living their lives

(47:02):
to the fullest. And this is almost one hundred percent
across the board with near death experiencers. So that's one
of the most fascinating things.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
With near death experience too. It's very rare. Do you
ever get somebody that comes back and said that they
experienced Hell. Now, I have a friend that did, Jerry
Hinsley his name now he has passed away now since then.
He was an older gentleman, but he had a near death.
He was a drug addict, he also sold it, got

(47:33):
a lot of trouble in prison time died. They brought
him back and he had a near He had an
experience in Hell. It terrified him so much he became
a Christian, wrote a book and went that way. But
we have like Anthony Levy, you know, when he was
on his deathbed saying, oh my, what have I done?
What have I dined? Yeah? And then I had an

(47:56):
uncle that that absolutely refused Jesus no matter what my
aunts did, And they wouldn't allow me to see him
when he was passing away because he kept screaming his
legs for burning, and it was a very horrific death.
I just wonder why we don't have very many people
that come out that might have near death experiences. Talking

(48:16):
more about maybe the possible Hell experience.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
Well, I've heard quite a bit myself, you know, I've
heard these people who've had these very negative, terrifying experiences,
and it's mostly people who don't have that spiritual connection
to God, Jesus something, and they it seems to be
a reminder. It seems to be, Hey, you you know,
you're in a state of mind where to me, hell

(48:43):
is is that you're trapped in your a state of
mind of your own making, because deep down inside you
hate yourself for what you've done, and that will carry
over with you to the other side, and that essentially
is your hell. It's going to be what you create
for yourself, and it's based off of, you know, your
your own understanding of the way things should have been.

(49:05):
And that's just my perspective of it. But I think
that there is there's these reminders, these in these whatever
you call them, angels, demons, they're here to basically teach
us lessons. And whenever we have that near death experience
and we go to the other side and we have
not lived our lives in a way that, according to

(49:26):
our mission, the way we should have been, the way
you know that humans are supposed to be spiritually connected
living this life, and we'll get those reminders in a
very very horrific and terrifying way. And it does happen.
And you know, the gentleman that I had on Dan's
he said, he's never heard of, you know, people having that,

(49:48):
although I you know, I definitely have, and I think
it's a very real thing. So I think people who
unfortunately leave this planet in a state of mind where
they don't have any spiritual connection, and they've lived in
a very negative way. They may have a very unpleasant

(50:11):
experience on the other side. And I couldn't tell you
if I couldn't tell you the last forever, I couldn't
tell you if that's just a temporary thing. But it's
definitely real.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
I mean, I believe. I believe in the especially near
death experiences with individuals and things. And then to hear
about my uncle when I was young girl, I was
probably nine or ten, and like my aunts kept talking
about they cried and cried, so I knew that story
was true what they were saying, but he just he
just wouldn't do it. But you know, it'd be it's

(50:48):
kind of it would be kind of nice to hear
a little bit more of those stories or maybe put
them out there some. There's some books about people traveling
to hell, but you know, the Bible's full of profits
that had visions and dreams and solve things that we
can't explain, like what were they doing back then too?
So I do believe these realms absolutely exist. M H.

(51:10):
I just don't know what my purpose is in it
if it isn't it Like I just don't. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
Well, that's one of the big questions, right, And I
think for me, where I'm at is I think that
that's one of the purposes of being here is to
figure that out. Like it's we we intentionally are memories
wiped so that we can get the most out of
this experience by relearning who we are and how to

(51:39):
be a good human being on this planet. And I
think that's all part of the experience, and some people
will get it in some won.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
I'm kind of scared about it though, Like do I
really want to well, I mean, like yeah, like I
want to go into the matrix. I don't think so, Like,
I don't. I don't think my body could handle it.
I don't think I'm very I don't know. I feel like,
once you have to get in there, you've got to
really just I'm very emotional being I'm a pioces. I'm emotional.

(52:14):
Like it's going to affect me good, bad, positive, whatever.
I just don't know if I could handle that, like
it will stay with me forever. I wouldn't be able
to drop it.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
I couldn't handle it all right, Well, I don't know.
I think that you know, once we start to ask
that question and connect with you know, our own spiritual
understanding of something. As long as we're decent, good people

(52:44):
on this planet, I think that's pretty much enough, you know.
I think that we're just here to give that example,
you know, and show other people what it's like to
be a decent, good human being. And you know, to me,
that's enough.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
You know, see that you talk about how the how
your perception, say for instance, if it's a negative one
on a constant basis, will affect how you interpret these.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Things that happened to you.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
So I mean, I thought I found that completely you know,
relatable to me. I mean because I'm a positive type
of person, so usually when something like that happens to me,
it's usually not negative.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
So you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
Even you know, with my experiences with psilocybin and things
like that nature, none of it was negative. None of
it was negative because I'm not a negative type of person.
And I believe that, you know what I mean. You know,
I do have my spells here and there, but I
think that what you you know, what how you perceive
things in life is how you're going to perceive things
in these certain situations as you say.

Speaker 6 (53:45):
So. When I first started these psychedelics, the psilocybin, the
experiences were very difficult at first because I had a
lot of stuff that I hadn't addressed, a lot of
childhood trauma, things that I hadn't worked out, and some
of the experiences were honestly terrifying. But I really had
to face it in order to work through it. But

(54:07):
as I did, as I healed a lot of that stuff,
the experience has changed and they became more positive. And
I would, you know, communicate with more benevolent types of intelligences,
angels if you will. So, yeah, it's definitely passes through
that perception lens.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
If you're looking at it from the outside, not really
knowing any of this information. And you know, we have
our guests on our shows and we talked to them
and we can see but looking from the outside from
somebody who just listening to this, can somebody just conclude
or lump all this into witchcraft? Can someone just say
that this is all just witchcraft and we should just
throw it away.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
Well, sure they can if they want to. I mean,
I wouldn't say that, I know, I wouldn't. I would
say that it's all behind your intention, and to me,
you know, there's it's not necessarily to mess with magic
or the occult or any of that stuff, because we
are magical beings as it is. You know, we have
enough just by the things we do on a daily

(55:07):
basis that we create magic. Just you know, by doing
these shows, we're making magic right now. I mean by
talking about positive things, by leading by example, that's all
magic to me. And I think that's all very positive things.
But you can also have negative intention towards what you do.
It's all a cool to me. So I really don't

(55:29):
agree with, you know, the people who look at all
this stuff in a negative light saying that you know,
if you do psychedelics or altered states or meditation, that
you're messing with the devil and things like that. They're
sure there are people that do. I'm one hundred percent
that there are people that use meditation and psychedelics to
commune with evil things. But I think it's all your intention,

(55:50):
and my own experiences for me are proof of that.
They helped me heal my childhood trauma, stopped me from
getting in relationships with retil billions.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Redhead.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
I've had nothing but beautiful, positive experiences with meditation and psychedelics,
and I found God and renewed my connection with JC
through psychedelics as well. So I really don't see how
you could connect that to demons when I renewed my
connection to Jesus through psychedelics.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
Right, yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I don't know about psychedelics.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
I'll just come over one day. You do it.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
I'll make sure nothing bad.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Twice in high school, that's that's not natural. But you know,
I had friends that were doing some mushrooms. I had
one friend that got in a bad trip. He was
an orange. She had to be admitted to the hospital.
She had to be watered class. It's the truth. He
was in the hospital for almost a year. I had

(56:58):
another friend.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
She did it.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
She did it. Yeah, she did some shrooms on a trip.
They were camping. She thought a bear was attacking her
and she ran ras smack into the tree, get hurt.
That's normal. Like, no, I'm not. I can't.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
I can't act upon it though, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
It's like I think in those situations, you have to
have like a good guide with you, somebody that that
you trust and that like you know that you know
they're not going to make it. You know, you're not
gonna go running out the freaking window or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
They got you. I think that's a good way of
like dipping your toe into the waters.

Speaker 6 (57:35):
Yeah, you gotta have a good babysitter for sure.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Yeah, absolutely, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Okay, maybe maybe I can get a vacation out the
Colorado Chris, Will, Will and I both can come out there.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
We'll visit.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
You haven't forbidden Knowledge network party every year? Right?

Speaker 6 (57:52):
I do, and have one again this summer.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
So maybe in this summer we hook up there for
good Knowledge.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
I mean, we do have a tradition of making a
tea every year, and although I don't partake any more,
I do I will for these these special special occasions.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
We'll have to talk about the tea and give me
the tea. Oh that makes me nervous. But real quick.
My last question for you, Chris and I. I'll have
Will if he has a last question for you? So
can you tell us what's next after Doors of Perception?
What other kind of projects are on the horizon? What's
going on?

Speaker 6 (58:30):
Yes, so a couple of things. I'm taking a couple
of months off because I am exhausted from this one,
but we are going to start production on a JFK film.
I'm going to turn my partner, Cory's book into a film,
A Warning from History, so he's going to give him
turn his research on the JFK assassination into a ninety

(58:55):
minute documentary. And at the same time I'm doing that,
I'm going to be working on Doors of Perception Part two,
which we already have about half of the material for that.
I still got to do a bunch of interviews. We're
going to have some new guests and experts come in
on this one as well. So yeah, we've got two
projects coming through at the same time. And of course

(59:17):
Forbidden Knowledge News still rocking at the same time.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
So nice, very good.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Yeah, yeah, will any last questions or anything for Chris
before we let him go?

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Rest up?

Speaker 5 (59:28):
And I want to see the next documentary, my friend.
I'm ready for it.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
So yes, yeah, I appreciate question.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
Man, you actually did a very wonderful job this last documentary.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Different improvement from the very first one. You could see
that the quality difference, I mean right away.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
I mean, oh yeah, I learned a lot from the
first one. Thank you, sir.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Thank you. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
It was great. It kept my attention going through the
whole entire thing, like what's next, what's next? Oh my gosh,
we're let me talk about this now, like what the
heck is going on? That's what I like. That kept
me going through the whole thing. And then like I
was working, listening and watching at the same time. I
work from home, so I'm able to do that, and
then I'm like, oh, Dad, he's calling me down there.

(01:00:12):
You pause, you know, but it is very great. And
everybody that's listening via podcast, where can they find Doors
of Perception?

Speaker 6 (01:00:22):
Chris, Yes, you can find it. Easiest way is go
to our YouTube channel, click the trailer. There's a link there.
I am blanking on the website because it's a huge
long link that you got to click, but it's our
vimeo ott site. You can also go to our regular
website Forbidden Knowledge dot News. There's a link on the

(01:00:43):
front page. You can click there and it'll bring you
to where you can download our rent Doors of Perception
right now, so and it'll we're looking to get it
on Amazon to be all the big streamers by May
or June at the latest.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Hey, it'll be here before you know. It's really great.
I'm not just saying that. Everybody, please go and rent
this or buy it off the website there at Forbidden
Knowledge dot News. Well, we'll let you go. Chris. Thank
you so much for being part of the show. We'll
have you obviously back on. I can't wait to see
the other projects you have. And by by the way,

(01:01:22):
his podcast here, you have phenomenal guests on your show.
I don't know how you get them all, but you
get them all. And he has wonderful guests. So please
go over there check out available on all podcasts platforms too,
and also too Mania platforms Forbidden Knowledge News. But we'll
let you go. Chris, thank you so much. We'll see
you next time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Bye, there we go. I learned so much tonight, a
lot of stuff. Right, I'm scared to go to sleep.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
That's time to do some mushrooms and lay down and
stare at the ceiling and see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
I stare the ceiling right now. Stuff happened, so like
you ever stare the ceiling and it's like, oh, like
your ceiling starts making patterns. It starts like, no, I'm
not going to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
Wait, for Papa and me while come to the ceiling too,
You're like talking to them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
I see shadows all the time. I don't know if.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
It's just.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
I see shadows when I know it's weird because anybody
that knows me, I talk about it as much as
I possibly can. But when I see shadows, usually something
precludes that as something bad it's.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Going to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
So yeah, I when I see them, I don't like
what happens usually after.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Well, I learned a lot tonight. I learned a lot
in that documentary. I had obviously all kinds of other things.
We didn't even talk about skinwalk ranch stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
No barely, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Barely, but there is. It is really a good documentary.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
I liked it a lot, fast paced, a lot of information,
and like I said, if there's anybody wants to know
like what we talk about, I think I say, hey, listen,
go look at this documentary. That said, that's a pretty
good sneak peak about.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
What we talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Well, next week is my birthday. Oh it's March the thirteenth,
thirty one three, which is JFK's frame where you got shot.
Speaking of JFK, real quick, do you think we're actually
going to get these spots. I don't think we're going
to get any files, even Epstein files, we're.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Not going to get out.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
I just went on a complete rant about the Epstein
files of my last episode, brought it up, and I
think it went out for like five minutes, me cursing
and saying that there's nothing fing coming out. There's not
and I hate these people that are making YouTube videos.
All here's the new information about what happened. Nothing new
came out. It was all the same information that we
already knew. Nothing new came out o the MLK, nothing

(01:03:39):
new came out with JFK, nothing new came out with Epstein.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
All this, they're requesting new they're requesting more time because
they discovered all these new files now, so it's under
investigation again. I'm like, who's still alive? Because whoever's still alive,
we're not ever going to see these documents until everybody's dead.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Noah, everybody's dead.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
I'm still coming out with say hey there's still stuff
coming out and stopping ladies.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Well, I just want I want Bobby Junior. I want
I want him to have answers if he probably already
has them, but just to have it in black and
white in there and him to get answers about what
happened to his uncle and his dad. It would be
nice to see that my lifetime because I mean, I
wasn't even born during that time and that affects me.

(01:04:24):
That and nine eleven. I want nine to eleven documents
to drop.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
But never happened. It will never happen. Yeah, it will
never happen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
So well anyway, Hopefully next Friday we'll be live off
to see with my son's a you schedule, But as
of right now, I'm still planning. We're gonna have my
catcher on the next three four weeks. We're gonna go
back into the paranormal, but we are exposing. It's a
month of exposure of paranormal.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Myself just just.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Wear a sheet over it. We are going to be
exposing paranormal drama that's gone on, which is one of
the reasons why I don't really do it anymore anyway.

(01:05:17):
But some of these networks that we've been affiliated with
over the years that have gone cuckoo have gone cuckooma drama.
It's gonna be drama exposure, but it's all gonna be
the truth. I trust my friends that are coming on.
They're good people. They've worked very hard in this field
and they've been done dirty. So my catcher next week.

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Thank you Byepad, Stop.

Speaker 10 (01:06:13):
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