July 25, 2025 • 26 mins
In this episode of the W.W.A.A. Podcast, host Kristy Mickelsen sits down with social media personality and author Julie Marie for a powerful and heartfelt conversation.
Together, they dive straight into sensitive topics including bipolar depression and mania, PTSD, veteran suicide, and suicidal thoughts. With honesty and empathy, Kristy and Julie explore these difficult subjects, sharing personal insights and support for those who may be struggling.
The discussion also highlights Gratitude Unleashed, a supportive community on the X platform where people can feel safe, valued, and connected.
Julie’s books are available on Amazon, and you can follow her on X: @juleighmarie
Connect with Kristy at @kristybooks
Together, they dive straight into sensitive topics including bipolar depression and mania, PTSD, veteran suicide, and suicidal thoughts. With honesty and empathy, Kristy and Julie explore these difficult subjects, sharing personal insights and support for those who may be struggling.
The discussion also highlights Gratitude Unleashed, a supportive community on the X platform where people can feel safe, valued, and connected.
Julie’s books are available on Amazon, and you can follow her on X: @juleighmarie
Connect with Kristy at @kristybooks
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good evening, everyone, and welcome to another episode of wwwa Podcast.
I'm your host, Christy Michelson, and for those of you
not familiar with me, I am a book author and
an advocate for causes such as cancer, autism, and Loupa's awareness.
You can find my books on Amazon dot com and
other online retailers, and you could follow me on most
(00:26):
social media platforms, including x dot com at Christy Books. Tonight,
I'm joined by a wonderful guest and a good friend,
Julie Marie. Julie, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm great, I'm so excited to be here. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Thank you for coming on. It's always wonderful to get
to talk to new people and learn their story. Speaking
of which, ladies and gentlemen, I met Julie through a
platform called X and when I first heard of her,
all I heard was the name Julie Marie. I had
no idea who she was, and all I knew was
her name was Buzzy Everywhere. Found out later she is
(01:02):
a wonderful media personality that a lot of us are
getting to know, and I wanted my audience to get
a chance to get to know her too, so Julie,
why don't you go ahead and tell our audience a
little more about yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So that was really nice to hear.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I'm thankful that I make an impact in a positive way,
and it's not like, oh wow, everybody hates her and I.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Can't wait to meet her. You know, it's a good thing.
I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I'm glad that my impact has been positive. But I
guess that's my whole personality is based on like a
trauma response.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I learned that one. So that's fun.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
But I like to make jokes and be the one
to say the funniest, smartest thing. But sometimes, you know,
being funny isn't always the clever thing to do. So
there are times where I buckle down and get into
these really deep conversations with people and it's like four
hours long, you know, here and there, I'll have conversations
(01:59):
that are just so deep and meaningful and impactful that
like I constantly am saying, oh, this should be on
a podcast, Oh this should be recorded.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But then it's just me and my best friend on
the phone. So that's a little bit. That's a little
bit of money.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
You know, they always say when you say it should
be on a podcast. Sometimes it should be on a podcast.
Have you ever thought about doing one for yourself?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I did, and I have thought of it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I did launch a twitch a little bit ago and
actually did maybe three episodes, and it was just a
free for all for me. I didn't have like an outline,
I didn't have anybody to interview. But if I were
to go back into it, I would put more into
it and more effort and have an interview type situation
because those are way more fun for me.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I feel you that, you know, when I first started
doing podcasts, I told myself it's going to be a
commentary and an interview, and so far I've done mostly
interviews because I have so much fun with them. So, Julie,
I have understanding that you have a book out there,
and I started reading your book, but I want you
to go ahead and tell our audience a little bit
(03:06):
about your book, what the title is and where they
can find it, and just a little bit about it
before we actually get into who you are as a person.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So the book was written post kidney stone operation. So
I had a kidney stone that blocked the passageway for
the first time, and it created hydronephrosis. When I saw
the X ray, it had like a little cyst, not
a cyst, but like a fluid of bladder juices. So
(03:36):
I came out of that pretty shook, pretty like aware
that my life was almost just wiped out and I
had PTSD from that medical situation. So I wrote a
book as best as I could to depict what I
saw and learned, because to me, that was the bargain
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that I made with God on that moment of like
am I die or not?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It was like, if you let me live, I'll tell everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And anybody what I can about you, like please, just
I don't think this is the end for me.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So despite being that that.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Was what my wish was to die, I was at
a really crazy place in my life. So I just said,
you know what, I'm going to write a book and
I'm gonna not care about what I say because I'm
going to speak from the heart. And I did a
lot of channeling in the books. So there are there
are parts of it that are just like, Wow, I
can't believe I said that, And then it's like that's
(04:33):
so profound, Oh my God, that's you, Like you wrote that.
And I don't want to get credit for it, and
I feel like it's because I feel like I sourced
it and I channeled it and it was not like
of my own doing, because it was just like an
out of body experience entirely. So I wrote Empirical Evidence.
That's on Amazon Kindle. You can find a subsequent book
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which is a about the principle size. I wrote a
book a secondary to it, to explain like a prelude
of what was going on in my life going into
empirical evidence. I think that one was empirical Evidence the
New Scrolls, and then the second book was Spiritual Warfare
(05:19):
breaking it down or breaking it down spiritual warfare behind
the vases.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yes, that so anyways, it's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I was going to ask you, now, is that under
Julie Marie or is it having a different pen name?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Right, Yeah, so it's Julie Marie Perry.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I was married at the time when I published it,
So I gotta republish it with another prelude to explain
more and publish it with my name and paperback.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
It sounds wonderful and ladies and gentlemen, I am currently
reading the book so far it is very very good.
I highly recommend that you check out. Say the book again,
I'm very horrible with titles right now.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
No, it's okay, I am too. It's called Breaking It
Down Spiritual Warfare Beyond the Faces.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Check it out. It is on Amazon. It is a
good book so far. I'm in chapter four and I'm
having to read slow these days due to some brain
fog due to lupus issues. But very good book. Please
check it out. But right now, I want to go
ahead and touch on some things that Julie had talked about.
First of all, you mentioned PTSD. I also know that
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you're a Navy veteran. Did the Navy have anything to
do with PTSD or was it just the kidney stone
and the kidney operation?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well both, there was. It's like I have a chronic
PTSD as CPTSD.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I don't know if it's chronic or what the CP
the C part stands for, but it's like layers of
PTSD from several events, so it's not just one isolated event.
But the Navy did contribute to a whole majority of
a lot of PTSD.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Now, for our listening audience, what is PTSD.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Post traumatic stress disorder?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And it's characterized by symptoms such as nightmares like night terrors, avoidance,
that's a big one. Flashbacks, feeling like you're reliving this situation, isolation,
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and I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Probably missing one, but those are the big ones.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Now I have a question on that that you might
be able to answer. I have a good friend that
I grew up with in high school and he went
to the Iraqi Freedom War. He came back with PTSD
and he was telling me about a situation with veterans
called twenty two a day where twenty two veterans a
day lose their lives to PTSD issues. Can you give
(08:03):
us a little more light on that? Can you tell
us what twenty two a day is? Did I hit
it on the head? Is there an incidence where there's
more and more veterans out there? Please give us a
little more insight on that if you could.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, I heard that twenty two a day, and yeah,
that's struck a bell and it's instantly the thought that
goes through my head is like, well, I wasn't one
of them, but there are lots of people that are,
and they end up a statistic and it's not just
a statistic, but they're a human body, like they're a
person that had a family and a life worth living and.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
All these things.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So I get triggered easily talking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
But yeah, thank you for answering, because I know some
of the questions can be very tough and very emotional.
And I tip my hat to you for coming on
and talking to us, because sometimes some of these topics
do get very emotional and they touch home. So if
(09:05):
there's any time that you want to stop the conversation,
please let me know. Always right, I.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Don't feel qualified to speak on behalf of combat PTSD.
I think is the trigger there, because I know that's
a whole different level of.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Different. It's a different beast. You know that you're fighting.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Thank you for clarifying that. Let's go back again a
little bit. You had a kidney stone, you were in
the hospital. What happened, like, what were some of the
signs of that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
So it came on pretty sudden, and it hurt pretty bad,
very bad, the worst pain I had ever experienced. But
it was actually well, it was a familiar pain leading
up to it. And when it came on, I was
on the way to the therapist and I had to
reroute and stop and go to the local VA because
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I needed to pull over.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I knew I couldn't make it. All the way to
the hospital. I was shaking, and.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
By the time I got to the hot the BA,
I like walked in the hobbled in the door. I'm
bent over and I'm like, I need an ambulance. They're like,
what's going on. I'm like, my back, my back, and
my kidneys. And I knew it was my kidneys because
I had experienced kidney failure when I was getting out
of the Navy, so well, when I was in the Navy,
I had it right at the beginning. I had kidney failure,
so I knew the pain and I knew the location,
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and I said, my kidney and my kidney. So I
got into the ambulance and was seeing little fragments of
light pixels, and to me, that was like, oh my god,
I'm dying. So then I was like I think I'm
dying and they're like, no, no, You're not going to die,
like you're fine, and I'm just like, Okay, you're dumb.
(10:46):
First of all, tell me that, because I'm the one.
I'm last time I checked. I'm on the gurney, right, Okay,
So that was a little like maybe I have medical
PTSD from that. So anyways, they were like, do you
want some ky joking around with me? And I'm like
what They're like, do you want candy? Do you want morphine?
Do you want pain killers? I'm like, uh yeah, like
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I'm cripale.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like I can't walk because I'm in so much pain.
Of course, why you're stupid candy? And why are you
calling it candy? We're in Springfield, mess That's not cool.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So anyway, you know that that brings up something really quick.
If they're calling it candy, then a lot of people
are picking that up and be like, yeah, give me candy.
I'm the candy. You see what I'm saying. That could
cause a lot of addiction right there?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Oh my god, unreal.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And I was just like okay, and that's how we're
going to treat it. But you know, yeah, I learned
a lot from that, and opioids are really pardon my words,
but I think it's like the devil and the flesh.
It's an awful addiction and it's creepy. It creeps in,
it's subtle, it's slow. It's like an anaconda. You know,
it chokes you out, but you're warm at first. You
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don't realize you know what's going on, and then it'll
kill you. But like you'll be comfortable, you'll be fine,
you'll be happy.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But that's that was how I experienced.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It was like, well, after they gave me the pain medication,
I was at least okay with the fact that I
was about to die, like or at least you know,
was it at the point where I thought I was going.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
To because I those pixels, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Sounds like you've gone through a lot of medical trauma there.
I want to ask you a couple more things here.
I understand from getting to talk to you parts of
your book, et cetera, that you actually have bipolar. Can
you please explain to our audience what that is.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So I was diagnosed with bipolar with manic and depressive episodes,
I believe. So that means to me that I can
swing hi, I can swing low, and I can do
it fast, zero to one hundred and no chill.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So that's unmedicated, you know, So.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Is it? Is it a form of depression?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It is both depression and mania.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
So like when you're in your mania, when you come
back down that depressive episode that you have because you
were so high becomes the depressive symptom of manic depression, MANI,
bibular depression, whatever. And maybe I'm maybe I'm mistaken. I'm
not a doctor, but that's my that's my understanding.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I asked, because I know a lot of people have
gone through depression and then they're very happy, like what
you're saying, it's high and low, and then all of
a sudden they have thoughts of suicide. Did you ever
go through something similar?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Right? I did, exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That was because I had gone so high, because I
had gone so low, it was like, well, maybe I'll
just pull the chord and get out of here. But
that's yeah, not the not the solution. It's a manic
bipolar you know.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Absolutely. I'm glad you were able to get yours diagnosed.
I went through a lot of losses with the suicide
and come to find out much later that some of
them were bipolar that we never knew. I'm sorry, I'm
gonna try not to get emotional on this one. Some
of them were bipolar, we never knew it. And I'm
(14:25):
still I guess you could say. On the search to
learn what bipolar is, to learn a little more about
it so that maybe I can understand it and hopefully
maybe help somebody someday. So if you have words of
advice for the listeners, that would be wonderful.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah. I think I was talking to someone about having
a manic episode and how you don't know it, and
like he said, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
No one knows it. You feel you just feel great.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And I'm like, oh, but like also then you flipped
the script and no one really probably knows how bad
they're to pressive episode is and that it's fixable, that
you have a chemical imbalance, that like, without that proper diagnosis,
without the proper education and awareness, you really are just
battling this. It's like a tide pool or a wave
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pool and you don't have this life jacket and you're
a you're not a good swimmer, you know, like you're
not going to make it out.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Regardless of regardless of.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What I have experienced, I know that in my depressive episodes,
it came I came very close to ending my own life,
and I don't think there was anything anybody could have
said or done that would.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Have changed the final outcome of if it happened or not.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Besides hearing, I feel like in that moment, the voice
of God or like an inner voice that was like stop,
get up here, better than this, get up and walk away,
you know. And it was like I've heard of people
that just like don't get the opportunity to listen to
that voice or they don't and it's really sad. It's
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like it gives me chills talking about it, and it's
like hard to talk about it without getting emotional because
it's such a serious thing that like there are people
who it's not just twenty two a day, like we
were talking with the veteran thing, and there's a million
people a day that are not a million, and that's
an exaggeration, I know that, but.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Like I would hope, and there's just so much.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
That I get out of hearing other people's success stories
that have gone through bipolar And I'm medicated, so I
think knowing that the stigma around medication and big pharma,
like I'm a conspiracy theorist, so like naturally I'm going
to reject medication. And so just getting over that hurdle
and being like, no, it's okay, I can take this
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every night.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm fine, it's not going to kill me.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
What will kill me is not medicating myself and having
a depression at the and offering myself because I listened
to the intrusive thoughts. So for me, manic bipolar is
a lot of listening to intrusive thoughts and going with
your emotions and feelings rather than facts and reality.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, I don't want to
say who, but I can say that I have lost
a cousin to bipolar disorder or I'm not sure if
it is just I don't know how you put that,
but she was bipolar, we found out right, and she
took her own life. She went into the backyard, she
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went into the RV, and she shot herself. I'm just
gonna be blunt. She shot herself. And then we have
a fiance of mine from the past who hung himself,
I mean due to depression. I don't know if that
one was bipolar or not everything, but it's something that
I've told myself I'm going to learn about because back
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then I felt a lot of guilt, like I thought
I could have stopped the situation, and I know that
I personally couldn't. I know that now, but it's something
that's very hard for me, and so I like to
hear stories and success stories of how people have overcome.
So I really thank you for coming on and talking
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about something so personal with me on that part.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, and I'm thankful and I'm grateful that I'm on
this side of the podcast and not someone else's story,
you know, like my sister going on a podcast talking
about Oh my.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Sister was so great. You should see the things that
she did in her lifetime.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Exactly. All right, let's move on a little bit so
we both don't break into tears. You have become kind
of a social media personality. What's next for you, Julie?
Are you gonna write any more books? Are you? I
don't know, No, you tell us what is next for you.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
So my charity has been in my back pocket for
a while, and I think firing that bad boy up
is going to be fun. I did get the brainy
idea today, like it would be really cool if I
could certify this new puppy as a therapy or an
emotional dog to bring into like balescent homes and as
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a volunteer person. Just bring the puppy to sit with
them and like you know, just sit on their lap
for a second and see. I don't know how it
would go. But that's an idea, And I have all
these crazy ideas that I maybe will harness one day
or maybe won't.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well we'll see.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
But I have a book writing a book in the
process right now that I'm writing, so that one that
one should be, you know, a matter of when the
universe wants me to finish it, because it's not on
my time. Like I picked up your book, which inspired
me so much, and like I think hearing about you
(20:02):
talk about in your book the suicides and knowing that,
like this is such a serious thing for you to like,
I kind of felt like, oh, this is why she
wants to figure it out. Like she's like really shook
by the fact that these people did this, and like
it's true that your words have such an impact, and
(20:22):
like they're a ripple and you don't know what could
what it could influence next. So I feel like there's
a couple of different books that are going to be
coming out within the next five years. I mean, I
don't want to say, like, oh, I'm going to write
it and be done with it in a year or
six months. I'm not that kind of speedy writer. I
don't have a lot of time to dedicate to writing.
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So I have a lot of little things I'm working on,
Like I just started can well not didn't start. I
messed with music again. You know, it's a drug, so
it's the good drug, ladies and gentlemen, and that's addicting.
So I have the piano and the keyboard and I
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can write raps and be clever. And I just I
have art artwork that I'm doing also, and I think
getting into an art show locally would be great, and
getting my hands in the local community. I think that's
my next bigger step, going to the town meetings eventually
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really getting involved in my community because I did a
mural in my community and I thought that that was
really fun to like challenge myself to something like that
and the.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Community knows me here.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And I think, not only am I like you said
on social media, but I think in my own town,
like I became a local celebrity before I went on
to X so, like I want to bring those two
together and open up an office space again like I had,
so I can do spiritual warfare counseling. And it's kind
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of like my whole little sub branch that I created.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So I don't know if it's a thing.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You have a lot there that I personally cannot wait
to see what goes forward with you. I'm really enjoying
your books. I'm loving talking to you and getting to
know you on X and everything. And you happen to
be a moderator same community that I am in on X,
which is what Julie, go ahead and tell everybody about it.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So Gratitude Unleashed is I think we're at what like
five hundred people, somewhere around three to five hundred people.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I think we're at five hundred.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, So we're about quality, not quantity. So we're
now we're not out there ever, looking for new members,
out you know, hunting people down to get them to
join us. We kind of let our truth speak for
itself and people either resonate with us or they don't.
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We do weekly spaces and those are always you know,
what are you grateful for? But with a topic usually
of like you know, this this week was flowers or
healthy foods or gardens, whatever it may be. And then
we also have like pop up spaces that the administrator,
Maria will host just you know a lot of really
(23:24):
good positive vibes in those spaces happen, a lot of
really good conversations happen, and yeah, that's our community and.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
A lot of good connections happen. That's how I met
Julie actually was through spaces And for those that don't know,
spaces on X it's like a big chat room and
it's like a big zoom calls what I call it,
just without the video and then so you could actually
go into those and learn a lot about different topics
such as gratitude unleashed. Back in the day when I
(23:54):
first started, I was hosting spaces about autoimmune diseases and
suicide prevention. So you can actually find out a lot
of different things on different topics out there on X.
So give that a checkout if you haven't. Ladies and Gentlemen, Julie,
it has been an absolute honor and privilege to have
you come onto the show. I actually have ideas for
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you to come back to the show if you're willing.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I love it absolutely perfect.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Ladies and gentlemen, we have been talking to Julie Marie
Julie really quick. Where can people find you online so
they can learn more about you?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
On X My handle is Julie Marie but it's spelt
like j U l e I g h m A
r i E, so it's not just the regular spelling. Anyways,
that's my ex handleland. That's probably the best place to.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Find me perfect all right, ladies and gentlemen. As always,
you've been listening to us here at wwwa podcast, and
you can find me on most social media platforms, excuse me,
all social media platforms, including x dot com at Christy Books,
and you could do a Google search and you'll find
me there. And I have one more thing to say,
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ladies and gentlemen, and that is, every day people are
battling things that we know nothing about. Sometimes it's illness,
sometimes it's depression. Sometimes there's things happening at home that
nobody else understands. Every day people are battling things that
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we know nothing about. So it's up to us. It's
up to all of us to stand up and be
the voice for people that maybe don't have a voice
for themselves, or maybe stand up and say, hey, you
look great today, because sometimes that one word can change
somebody's life. It's a domino effect, ladies and gentlemen, So
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be the voice, be the change, and be the one
to make a difference because you might be the one
to save a life. And with that, I'm gonna say
good night, Julie, good night.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Mm hmm
Good evening, everyone, and welcome to another episode of wwwa Podcast.
I'm your host, Christy Michelson, and for those of you
not familiar with me, I am a book author and
an advocate for causes such as cancer, autism, and Loupa's awareness.
You can find my books on Amazon dot com and
other online retailers, and you could follow me on most
(00:26):
social media platforms, including x dot com at Christy Books. Tonight,
I'm joined by a wonderful guest and a good friend,
Julie Marie. Julie, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm great, I'm so excited to be here. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Thank you for coming on. It's always wonderful to get
to talk to new people and learn their story. Speaking
of which, ladies and gentlemen, I met Julie through a
platform called X and when I first heard of her,
all I heard was the name Julie Marie. I had
no idea who she was, and all I knew was
her name was Buzzy Everywhere. Found out later she is
(01:02):
a wonderful media personality that a lot of us are
getting to know, and I wanted my audience to get
a chance to get to know her too, so Julie,
why don't you go ahead and tell our audience a
little more about yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So that was really nice to hear.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I'm thankful that I make an impact in a positive way,
and it's not like, oh wow, everybody hates her and I.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Can't wait to meet her. You know, it's a good thing.
I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I'm glad that my impact has been positive. But I
guess that's my whole personality is based on like a
trauma response.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I learned that one. So that's fun.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
But I like to make jokes and be the one
to say the funniest, smartest thing. But sometimes, you know,
being funny isn't always the clever thing to do. So
there are times where I buckle down and get into
these really deep conversations with people and it's like four
hours long, you know, here and there, I'll have conversations
(01:59):
that are just so deep and meaningful and impactful that
like I constantly am saying, oh, this should be on
a podcast, Oh this should be recorded.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But then it's just me and my best friend on
the phone. So that's a little bit. That's a little
bit of money.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
You know, they always say when you say it should
be on a podcast. Sometimes it should be on a podcast.
Have you ever thought about doing one for yourself?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I did, and I have thought of it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I did launch a twitch a little bit ago and
actually did maybe three episodes, and it was just a
free for all for me. I didn't have like an outline,
I didn't have anybody to interview. But if I were
to go back into it, I would put more into
it and more effort and have an interview type situation
because those are way more fun for me.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I feel you that, you know, when I first started
doing podcasts, I told myself it's going to be a
commentary and an interview, and so far I've done mostly
interviews because I have so much fun with them. So, Julie,
I have understanding that you have a book out there,
and I started reading your book, but I want you
to go ahead and tell our audience a little bit
(03:06):
about your book, what the title is and where they
can find it, and just a little bit about it
before we actually get into who you are as a person.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So the book was written post kidney stone operation. So
I had a kidney stone that blocked the passageway for
the first time, and it created hydronephrosis. When I saw
the X ray, it had like a little cyst, not
a cyst, but like a fluid of bladder juices. So
(03:36):
I came out of that pretty shook, pretty like aware
that my life was almost just wiped out and I
had PTSD from that medical situation. So I wrote a
book as best as I could to depict what I
saw and learned, because to me, that was the bargain
(03:56):
that I made with God on that moment of like
am I die or not?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It was like, if you let me live, I'll tell everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And anybody what I can about you, like please, just
I don't think this is the end for me.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So despite being that that.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Was what my wish was to die, I was at
a really crazy place in my life. So I just said,
you know what, I'm going to write a book and
I'm gonna not care about what I say because I'm
going to speak from the heart. And I did a
lot of channeling in the books. So there are there
are parts of it that are just like, Wow, I
can't believe I said that, And then it's like that's
(04:33):
so profound, Oh my God, that's you, Like you wrote that.
And I don't want to get credit for it, and
I feel like it's because I feel like I sourced
it and I channeled it and it was not like
of my own doing, because it was just like an
out of body experience entirely. So I wrote Empirical Evidence.
That's on Amazon Kindle. You can find a subsequent book
(04:58):
which is a about the principle size. I wrote a
book a secondary to it, to explain like a prelude
of what was going on in my life going into
empirical evidence. I think that one was empirical Evidence the
New Scrolls, and then the second book was Spiritual Warfare
(05:19):
breaking it down or breaking it down spiritual warfare behind
the vases.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yes, that so anyways, it's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I was going to ask you, now, is that under
Julie Marie or is it having a different pen name?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Right, Yeah, so it's Julie Marie Perry.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I was married at the time when I published it,
So I gotta republish it with another prelude to explain
more and publish it with my name and paperback.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
It sounds wonderful and ladies and gentlemen, I am currently
reading the book so far it is very very good.
I highly recommend that you check out. Say the book again,
I'm very horrible with titles right now.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
No, it's okay, I am too. It's called Breaking It
Down Spiritual Warfare Beyond the Faces.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Check it out. It is on Amazon. It is a
good book so far. I'm in chapter four and I'm
having to read slow these days due to some brain
fog due to lupus issues. But very good book. Please
check it out. But right now, I want to go
ahead and touch on some things that Julie had talked about.
First of all, you mentioned PTSD. I also know that
(06:32):
you're a Navy veteran. Did the Navy have anything to
do with PTSD or was it just the kidney stone
and the kidney operation?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well both, there was. It's like I have a chronic
PTSD as CPTSD.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I don't know if it's chronic or what the CP
the C part stands for, but it's like layers of
PTSD from several events, so it's not just one isolated event.
But the Navy did contribute to a whole majority of
a lot of PTSD.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Now, for our listening audience, what is PTSD.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Post traumatic stress disorder?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And it's characterized by symptoms such as nightmares like night terrors, avoidance,
that's a big one. Flashbacks, feeling like you're reliving this situation, isolation,
(07:34):
and I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Probably missing one, but those are the big ones.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Now I have a question on that that you might
be able to answer. I have a good friend that
I grew up with in high school and he went
to the Iraqi Freedom War. He came back with PTSD
and he was telling me about a situation with veterans
called twenty two a day where twenty two veterans a
day lose their lives to PTSD issues. Can you give
(08:03):
us a little more light on that? Can you tell
us what twenty two a day is? Did I hit
it on the head? Is there an incidence where there's
more and more veterans out there? Please give us a
little more insight on that if you could.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, I heard that twenty two a day, and yeah,
that's struck a bell and it's instantly the thought that
goes through my head is like, well, I wasn't one
of them, but there are lots of people that are,
and they end up a statistic and it's not just
a statistic, but they're a human body, like they're a
person that had a family and a life worth living and.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
All these things.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So I get triggered easily talking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
But yeah, thank you for answering, because I know some
of the questions can be very tough and very emotional.
And I tip my hat to you for coming on
and talking to us, because sometimes some of these topics
do get very emotional and they touch home. So if
(09:05):
there's any time that you want to stop the conversation,
please let me know. Always right, I.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Don't feel qualified to speak on behalf of combat PTSD.
I think is the trigger there, because I know that's
a whole different level of.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Different. It's a different beast. You know that you're fighting.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Thank you for clarifying that. Let's go back again a
little bit. You had a kidney stone, you were in
the hospital. What happened, like, what were some of the
signs of that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
So it came on pretty sudden, and it hurt pretty bad,
very bad, the worst pain I had ever experienced. But
it was actually well, it was a familiar pain leading
up to it. And when it came on, I was
on the way to the therapist and I had to
reroute and stop and go to the local VA because
(09:56):
I needed to pull over.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I knew I couldn't make it. All the way to
the hospital. I was shaking, and.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
By the time I got to the hot the BA,
I like walked in the hobbled in the door. I'm
bent over and I'm like, I need an ambulance. They're like,
what's going on. I'm like, my back, my back, and
my kidneys. And I knew it was my kidneys because
I had experienced kidney failure when I was getting out
of the Navy, so well, when I was in the Navy,
I had it right at the beginning. I had kidney failure,
so I knew the pain and I knew the location,
(10:24):
and I said, my kidney and my kidney. So I
got into the ambulance and was seeing little fragments of
light pixels, and to me, that was like, oh my god,
I'm dying. So then I was like I think I'm
dying and they're like, no, no, You're not going to die,
like you're fine, and I'm just like, Okay, you're dumb.
(10:46):
First of all, tell me that, because I'm the one.
I'm last time I checked. I'm on the gurney, right, Okay,
So that was a little like maybe I have medical
PTSD from that. So anyways, they were like, do you
want some ky joking around with me? And I'm like
what They're like, do you want candy? Do you want morphine?
Do you want pain killers? I'm like, uh yeah, like
(11:08):
I'm cripale.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Like I can't walk because I'm in so much pain.
Of course, why you're stupid candy? And why are you
calling it candy? We're in Springfield, mess That's not cool.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So anyway, you know that that brings up something really quick.
If they're calling it candy, then a lot of people
are picking that up and be like, yeah, give me candy.
I'm the candy. You see what I'm saying. That could
cause a lot of addiction right there?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Oh my god, unreal.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And I was just like okay, and that's how we're
going to treat it. But you know, yeah, I learned
a lot from that, and opioids are really pardon my words,
but I think it's like the devil and the flesh.
It's an awful addiction and it's creepy. It creeps in,
it's subtle, it's slow. It's like an anaconda. You know,
it chokes you out, but you're warm at first. You
(11:58):
don't realize you know what's going on, and then it'll
kill you. But like you'll be comfortable, you'll be fine,
you'll be happy.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But that's that was how I experienced.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It was like, well, after they gave me the pain medication,
I was at least okay with the fact that I
was about to die, like or at least you know,
was it at the point where I thought I was going.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
To because I those pixels, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Sounds like you've gone through a lot of medical trauma there.
I want to ask you a couple more things here.
I understand from getting to talk to you parts of
your book, et cetera, that you actually have bipolar. Can
you please explain to our audience what that is.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So I was diagnosed with bipolar with manic and depressive episodes,
I believe. So that means to me that I can
swing hi, I can swing low, and I can do
it fast, zero to one hundred and no chill.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So that's unmedicated, you know, So.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Is it? Is it a form of depression?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It is both depression and mania.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
So like when you're in your mania, when you come
back down that depressive episode that you have because you
were so high becomes the depressive symptom of manic depression, MANI,
bibular depression, whatever. And maybe I'm maybe I'm mistaken. I'm
not a doctor, but that's my that's my understanding.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I asked, because I know a lot of people have
gone through depression and then they're very happy, like what
you're saying, it's high and low, and then all of
a sudden they have thoughts of suicide. Did you ever
go through something similar?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Right? I did, exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That was because I had gone so high, because I
had gone so low, it was like, well, maybe I'll
just pull the chord and get out of here. But
that's yeah, not the not the solution. It's a manic
bipolar you know.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Absolutely. I'm glad you were able to get yours diagnosed.
I went through a lot of losses with the suicide
and come to find out much later that some of
them were bipolar that we never knew. I'm sorry, I'm
gonna try not to get emotional on this one. Some
of them were bipolar, we never knew it. And I'm
(14:25):
still I guess you could say. On the search to
learn what bipolar is, to learn a little more about
it so that maybe I can understand it and hopefully
maybe help somebody someday. So if you have words of
advice for the listeners, that would be wonderful.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah. I think I was talking to someone about having
a manic episode and how you don't know it, and
like he said, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
No one knows it. You feel you just feel great.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And I'm like, oh, but like also then you flipped
the script and no one really probably knows how bad
they're to pressive episode is and that it's fixable, that
you have a chemical imbalance, that like, without that proper diagnosis,
without the proper education and awareness, you really are just
battling this. It's like a tide pool or a wave
(15:16):
pool and you don't have this life jacket and you're
a you're not a good swimmer, you know, like you're
not going to make it out.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Regardless of regardless of.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What I have experienced, I know that in my depressive episodes,
it came I came very close to ending my own life,
and I don't think there was anything anybody could have
said or done that would.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Have changed the final outcome of if it happened or not.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Besides hearing, I feel like in that moment, the voice
of God or like an inner voice that was like stop,
get up here, better than this, get up and walk away,
you know. And it was like I've heard of people
that just like don't get the opportunity to listen to
that voice or they don't and it's really sad. It's
(16:08):
like it gives me chills talking about it, and it's
like hard to talk about it without getting emotional because
it's such a serious thing that like there are people
who it's not just twenty two a day, like we
were talking with the veteran thing, and there's a million
people a day that are not a million, and that's
an exaggeration, I know that, but.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Like I would hope, and there's just so much.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
That I get out of hearing other people's success stories
that have gone through bipolar And I'm medicated, so I
think knowing that the stigma around medication and big pharma,
like I'm a conspiracy theorist, so like naturally I'm going
to reject medication. And so just getting over that hurdle
and being like, no, it's okay, I can take this
(16:53):
every night.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm fine, it's not going to kill me.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
What will kill me is not medicating myself and having
a depression at the and offering myself because I listened
to the intrusive thoughts. So for me, manic bipolar is
a lot of listening to intrusive thoughts and going with
your emotions and feelings rather than facts and reality.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, I don't want to
say who, but I can say that I have lost
a cousin to bipolar disorder or I'm not sure if
it is just I don't know how you put that,
but she was bipolar, we found out right, and she
took her own life. She went into the backyard, she
(17:39):
went into the RV, and she shot herself. I'm just
gonna be blunt. She shot herself. And then we have
a fiance of mine from the past who hung himself,
I mean due to depression. I don't know if that
one was bipolar or not everything, but it's something that
I've told myself I'm going to learn about because back
(18:00):
then I felt a lot of guilt, like I thought
I could have stopped the situation, and I know that
I personally couldn't. I know that now, but it's something
that's very hard for me, and so I like to
hear stories and success stories of how people have overcome.
So I really thank you for coming on and talking
(18:23):
about something so personal with me on that part.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, and I'm thankful and I'm grateful that I'm on
this side of the podcast and not someone else's story,
you know, like my sister going on a podcast talking
about Oh my.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Sister was so great. You should see the things that
she did in her lifetime.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Exactly. All right, let's move on a little bit so
we both don't break into tears. You have become kind
of a social media personality. What's next for you, Julie?
Are you gonna write any more books? Are you? I
don't know, No, you tell us what is next for you.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
So my charity has been in my back pocket for
a while, and I think firing that bad boy up
is going to be fun. I did get the brainy
idea today, like it would be really cool if I
could certify this new puppy as a therapy or an
emotional dog to bring into like balescent homes and as
(19:26):
a volunteer person. Just bring the puppy to sit with
them and like you know, just sit on their lap
for a second and see. I don't know how it
would go. But that's an idea, And I have all
these crazy ideas that I maybe will harness one day
or maybe won't.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well we'll see.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
But I have a book writing a book in the
process right now that I'm writing, so that one that
one should be, you know, a matter of when the
universe wants me to finish it, because it's not on
my time. Like I picked up your book, which inspired
me so much, and like I think hearing about you
(20:02):
talk about in your book the suicides and knowing that,
like this is such a serious thing for you to like,
I kind of felt like, oh, this is why she
wants to figure it out. Like she's like really shook
by the fact that these people did this, and like
it's true that your words have such an impact, and
(20:22):
like they're a ripple and you don't know what could
what it could influence next. So I feel like there's
a couple of different books that are going to be
coming out within the next five years. I mean, I
don't want to say, like, oh, I'm going to write
it and be done with it in a year or
six months. I'm not that kind of speedy writer. I
don't have a lot of time to dedicate to writing.
(20:44):
So I have a lot of little things I'm working on,
Like I just started can well not didn't start. I
messed with music again. You know, it's a drug, so
it's the good drug, ladies and gentlemen, and that's addicting.
So I have the piano and the keyboard and I
(21:05):
can write raps and be clever. And I just I
have art artwork that I'm doing also, and I think
getting into an art show locally would be great, and
getting my hands in the local community. I think that's
my next bigger step, going to the town meetings eventually
(21:28):
really getting involved in my community because I did a
mural in my community and I thought that that was
really fun to like challenge myself to something like that
and the.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Community knows me here.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And I think, not only am I like you said
on social media, but I think in my own town,
like I became a local celebrity before I went on
to X so, like I want to bring those two
together and open up an office space again like I had,
so I can do spiritual warfare counseling. And it's kind
(22:06):
of like my whole little sub branch that I created.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So I don't know if it's a thing.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You have a lot there that I personally cannot wait
to see what goes forward with you. I'm really enjoying
your books. I'm loving talking to you and getting to
know you on X and everything. And you happen to
be a moderator same community that I am in on X,
which is what Julie, go ahead and tell everybody about it.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So Gratitude Unleashed is I think we're at what like
five hundred people, somewhere around three to five hundred people.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I think we're at five hundred.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, So we're about quality, not quantity. So we're
now we're not out there ever, looking for new members,
out you know, hunting people down to get them to
join us. We kind of let our truth speak for
itself and people either resonate with us or they don't.
(23:00):
We do weekly spaces and those are always you know,
what are you grateful for? But with a topic usually
of like you know, this this week was flowers or
healthy foods or gardens, whatever it may be. And then
we also have like pop up spaces that the administrator,
Maria will host just you know a lot of really
(23:24):
good positive vibes in those spaces happen, a lot of
really good conversations happen, and yeah, that's our community and.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
A lot of good connections happen. That's how I met
Julie actually was through spaces And for those that don't know,
spaces on X it's like a big chat room and
it's like a big zoom calls what I call it,
just without the video and then so you could actually
go into those and learn a lot about different topics
such as gratitude unleashed. Back in the day when I
(23:54):
first started, I was hosting spaces about autoimmune diseases and
suicide prevention. So you can actually find out a lot
of different things on different topics out there on X.
So give that a checkout if you haven't. Ladies and Gentlemen, Julie,
it has been an absolute honor and privilege to have
you come onto the show. I actually have ideas for
(24:16):
you to come back to the show if you're willing.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I love it absolutely perfect.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Ladies and gentlemen, we have been talking to Julie Marie
Julie really quick. Where can people find you online so
they can learn more about you?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
On X My handle is Julie Marie but it's spelt
like j U l e I g h m A
r i E, so it's not just the regular spelling. Anyways,
that's my ex handleland. That's probably the best place to.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Find me perfect all right, ladies and gentlemen. As always,
you've been listening to us here at wwwa podcast, and
you can find me on most social media platforms, excuse me,
all social media platforms, including x dot com at Christy Books,
and you could do a Google search and you'll find
me there. And I have one more thing to say,
(25:06):
ladies and gentlemen, and that is, every day people are
battling things that we know nothing about. Sometimes it's illness,
sometimes it's depression. Sometimes there's things happening at home that
nobody else understands. Every day people are battling things that
(25:27):
we know nothing about. So it's up to us. It's
up to all of us to stand up and be
the voice for people that maybe don't have a voice
for themselves, or maybe stand up and say, hey, you
look great today, because sometimes that one word can change
somebody's life. It's a domino effect, ladies and gentlemen, So
(25:51):
be the voice, be the change, and be the one
to make a difference because you might be the one
to save a life. And with that, I'm gonna say
good night, Julie, good night.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Mm hmm
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