October 24, 2025 • 22 mins
Ejae sits down with Elvis Duran and the Y100.7 Morning Show talking about her song writing, experince is K-POP, and how GOLDEN with K-POP Demon Hunters has changed her life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now remember how mad you got it me, Danielle, And
I said, I don't think that voice is real because.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's too perfect.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
And so the voice, the voice of Roomy, decided to
come in and slap me left and right.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Ej welcome to our show.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Look, I've been listening to music for a thousand years
because well look I'm old. I've heard every artist in
the business. Your voice is just right on. It's so perfect.
Every note is so pure.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Oh, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, let me say something about She's like, well, screw that.
I want to be a songwriter more than I do
a performer.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
You'd rather write songs than perform.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I have stage fright, so really absolutely, Jimmy Fallon, I
definitely had like a pan of guitar before.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He's a good friend of ours. He's the nicest guy
on their own nice.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
If Jimmy Fallon can't call me down, maybe maybe you
do have some straight stage.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Oh but he was so nice, so I did felt
feel really comfortable.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Wait, so you write the songs for the movie.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
How do you become like the girl that's singing the
songs and now like front and center, like you could
you have said.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You know, I'm not singing that, I'll just write it.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I was very close to that lie. I'm not gonna lie,
but you know, I'm just I love a character. I
love you know, Maggie Chrits. And when they asked me,
I was. I was honored to be honest, that's an honor.
But I was kind of very insecure with my voice
because I've been kind of told during my k pop
training days that my voice is too like old sounding.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
What oh stop it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
By the way, a little unknown fact about EJ she
is seventy eight years old.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Korean skin carry on.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Okay, Why is that Korean skincare that so good?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's beyond it leaps and bound beyond other skincare?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Why why?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
If you put a k on, it's just like me
Korean case food, like.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
For pasta hunters, I mean for Italy skincare. I go to.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
The cooking shows, the Korean cooking shows, like there's that
refrigerator one where they bring the refrager.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, this skit.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So they go to a celebrities house in Korea and
they get a refrigerator that's in their house and they
go through the refrigerator and they it's what's in their fridge.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So good and everyone's skin on this show is perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So you met Nate, our producer. If you went through
his refrigerator, you'd find a head from a woman he
killed three weeks ago. I'm so sorry to tell you that.
So did you know did you have a feeling? Did
you have a feeling that K Pop Demon Hunters would
be as massive as it is?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Definitely not. It was very I mean, we I love
a film and I've always thought the storyline was just incredible.
When I first received the you know that's the just
like the offer, and when I heard where, I was like, wow,
this has potential to be huge, but it's all about
the execution. When we saw it at the premiere, I
was like, wow, this is good, but to this level. No,
(03:10):
absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, it's insane. It's interesting how and it's a movement.
I'll just say it's a movement because hear from our perspective.
We'll play we're playing Golden right, and we'll have a man,
a father call him and say, my daughter and I
actually bond over this film. And the only thing I
hate about the film is she's forced me to watch
(03:32):
it fifty thousand.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, we love that, of.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Course you do.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I just so I know.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
You said that you get nervous and you have stage right,
which I totally understand.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Do these kind of things make you nervous? Like right now? Okay?
I love interviews because I feel like talking to people.
I love socializing and talking to people, so not as much,
not really when you're singing a really hard song like Golden, Yeah,
that definitely makes me get scary.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
I think you've got the perfect career trajectory, Like if
I could pick it.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
She said before you came in, she said, I want
that career.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
That's what I would want.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Like famous in your thirties, so you've had a normal upbringing.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Oh you understand like what.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
You have and by you your cartoon so you don't
have to worry. I love that, you know, ever being
seventy eight or whatever it is and you get to
sing and write music. I mean that would be the
dream dream job really.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I mean, honestly, before the K pop even Hunter is
like thing K pop, Like I was a K pop
trainee and I you know, I got dropped, but I
found out while a songwriting that that's my personal like
my personality fits as a songwriter, and then I might.
I was like to my co writer, I was like,
you know, if I ever wrote a debut as a
as a singer, I want to be an animated character.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, whoever dropped I'm an idiot?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah it might have been fired today it happens for
it was like what you said, like in my twenties,
I got normal, like amazing like twenties and then my thirties.
My front toal lope is like fully developed like I have.
You know, yeah, you can appreciate it and you're not
gonna scientifically true, you know, yes, like was my main.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
To the music?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Did you write? Did you write sodopop?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I wrote half of the t I wrote Golden, how
It's done, the mantra and your idol and also the
parts of what it sounds.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Like as wow, okay, I have to go back for
a second. You're a k pop training yes, what does
that mean?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Essentially for ten years, for a very long time, since
I was eleven, I got castid and then you'd go
through this rigorous training system to become a K pop idol.
And so that was like eleven till twenty two. What woah?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
What are they playing through? Like what's the camp?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Like? Oh, it's like essentially, like, uh, you learn Korean? Welly? Sorry,
Well for me, I had to get better at Korean
and then dancing, singing, jazz, dancing, rapping, Chinese, Japanese.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Am I too old to do this? Am I too
wan to be a K pop training?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
No one's ever.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You need to free your mind.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
By the way, if you're wondering what's going on, EJ
is here, of course, the voice and writer of Golden
and I'm gonna play a song from you though wait
wait you you are you?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But you have your own album coming out single right now? Yes,
well so that's it. Well maybe maybe two songs.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Maybe album, yes, but like, yeah, essentially I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Play that second.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
By the way, we are also live on Z one
hundreds Instagram at Z one hundred, New York.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Who gave you authority to do that? Ej?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You gotta pay her some residuals, so e j Uh.
As far as writing music goes, I mean, we have
many friends in the music business who are writers. Not
to be shallow, but here I go. I mean they
walk out to that mailbox every day and the checks
just arrive. Man, writing songs, it's it's a business.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
It's a great business.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And people a lot of people think that the performance
and is where is where the payoff is, and it
is in many ways. But writing these songs, oh my gosh,
it's definitely.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Is it true? You don't have a record deal?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah? I don't. I have one? Or I do have
an independent record Okay? Yes?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Do you want a major label or do you like?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I don't think you do.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Let me be your manager. I need cash. I need cash.
So you you live out in You're in New York.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You're in New Yorker, Yes, I am, but but in Brooklyn, right,
and so you know, I'm I'm a Manhattan guy.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Through and through I'm like, oh, where do you live? Manhattan? No? Brooklyn?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well did you ever come into our little island cold Manhattan? Yeah,
just East Village exactly?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
That's what that you quoting me? Yes, that's literally very
much true.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And then looked at me like, oh where do you live?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I said? Downtown?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Then I was accepted.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
By did you stand melt a little coming into Midtown?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
What a life? I'm assuming we just met. I'm assuming
that you have a great life going.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I mean definitely busy. I definitely need some sleep. What
busy with press and writing, you know and press about
being the songwriter but also actually writing for K pop
and pop and then my artist project too.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So I mean, how does your writing process works? I mean,
of all the songwriters we've met, I mean the sea
is and the name them, they'll they'll bring in their
voice notes or they'll bring it. They all have a
different process of how they write songs. How do you
write songs?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well, first, I think what kind of differentiates me with
other writers is I like zoom sessions. I'm a very
much at home. I like to vocal produce and record myself.
So I have my system and my vocal chains that
I love so much that he made for me. He yes,
my fiance he's also does audio engineering.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I didn't know we could refer to he.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
But he es. So basically like what I have my
you know, able to open and they would send me
a track and I would just lay down a bunch
of melodies and with that melody, I kind of have
concepts already or you know, or the melody inspires a concept.
So for me, two important things Concept has to be
really strong and really good melodies.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
So do you first, I know, I know you just
said the concept of the melody, but do you write
the song and then pick an artist or do you
ever write a song specifically for an artist because you
think that voice would be perfect?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Definitely usually out of for like efficiency's sake, Like we
do keep like an artist in mind, but it goes
somewhere else and it's totally fine, but like, yeah that's
usually the case. Yeah, for an artist.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, I'm in awe of what you do. I mean,
to be able to write a song. I mean, I
can't even draw a chick figure. I have no art
at all in my mind. I mean, this is an artist
right here. Gandhi is an artist, and Danielle you would
easily be a superstar in a Broadway show. And I'm
just having that thing that you were born with, that
(10:15):
that God or the universe gave you or bestowed upon you.
It's just a magical thing. I mean, do you actually
sit down with yourself and go, Okay, I'm very grateful
for what's happening here.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I mean, what's that? What's that like?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Because anyone listening right now, no matter what they're doing
in life, they should have those same conversations with themselves.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, I think one thing for sure that I that
I wish, I mean I wish, like I think would
helped me before this all happened. That helped. What I heard,
like interviews with writers is that imposter syndrome was really normal.
So I am feeling I'm grateful, but imposter syndrome just
never goes away. I'm always like, this is cool, But like,
(10:58):
am I really good? I don't know, Like sometimes I
question it still can I keep going? Like can I
write another really good song? Like that's always in my head?
So like, but I think that's a good thing because
it does like push me to like keep getting better.
I'm still wanting to get better. I still have a
lot to work on.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I think I think those conversations with yourself can be healthy.
It's some I think it is not to the point
where it just drags you down.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Are you fully prepared for Halloween and everybody being roomy?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I am so excited?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Like we have a bet with the other girls, like
with Audriy and ray and it We're just like I
wonder who's which character is going to be the most popular. Okay,
because like maybe Bob, because like it's so easy.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Now, what's on the line with this?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Bet? Food?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Always food? By the way, are those your real eyes?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
What do you mean? Gorgeous? Are those are my contacts?
I always it's a Korean?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Is that a Korean thing? Okay?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Can I eye contacts?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Can I go to.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Korea get someone else's eyes?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm gonna go to Turkey get new hair.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Korea's GOODA have that too? And spitting it?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh my god? If I but look, I got this.
I need Korean hair right here?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Still too?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Who do you know?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Who?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Who is this person over here?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
This is my niece Ella?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Come here, come here, come here? Have you met did
you meet J? Back in the background?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So beautiful?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So she she skipped school today just to meet you.
I guess she's being for Halloween. Yeah, talking to.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
The that's so cool.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
HI got answered for her? Sorry?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Do your friends at school know that you're meeting J today?
And have they said anything to you about that?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And they were just surprised that I'm meeting her?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Oh well, you're so beautiful and smart and gorgeous. And
I bet they loved you before you met e J.
So you got that going for you.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Go ahead, Oh, what's your Why do you like me
so much? I was just curious.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Because she's the best one.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, you know what, that's like the best answer, I
mean the best.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
To the point. Okay, go sit down, get out of it.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
She's so cute.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Cut gosh. When I was a kid, I was never
that cute. So I'm going to play. You're saying, why
are you laughing? Don't laugh at failure.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
All I ever wanted to be was a nine year
old girl.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's all I wanted.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
What do you mean you're so successful?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
The universe dashed by hope. I want to play your
song and you're welcome. She's more than roomy, the voice
of Rumy, she's J. She's the voice of J. So
talk about this song we're about.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
To play, all right. In another world is.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
A song in another world?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
And yeah, so in another world it's basically I wrote
this song like two years ago at a song camp.
And during the camp, oh, like it's like a songwriting
like week. So you like are with different producers and
writers for each for each day, and like, yeah, you
just write songs for a purpose. For that one, it
(14:27):
was like for sync or for like a movie or something,
and it was in Canada and I wrote it with
my co writers Teddy and Brie. And essentially, like during
that time, my fiance and I had a really healthy break.
It was intentional. We were really good, but we wanted
to break so much. Yeah, but like it's always a guys,
(14:55):
it's always right. Yeah, But like you know, during this time,
you know, we were thinking about like you know, I
needed some like essentially space to reassess. And it was
like if we were to part ways, like what's a
way to cope with that? And for me it was
you know, just knowing that maybe just like in this
(15:15):
lifetime it was just not meant for us. You know,
the trauma and the you know, baggage that we had
kind of cause the resentment. So it's not you or
me that's the issue. It is just in this life
we had it. So it's like accepting that and the
whole idea of like infinite reality is kind of took
awful lot of the weight off the pressure.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
This is a deep song, yessay. It really is too
much for me to comprehend.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
It's like a fantasy breakup song, but it it's not
just like relationships like romantic. It also is like relationship
with me and myself as a kid, my dream to
become a singer, Like I had to let that go.
And the way of like coping with that was just
like accepting the fact that, like in this lifetime, you know,
it's just not meant for it, but you know it's okay,
Like I bet, I bet in another lifetime, like I'm
probably killing it. It's okayble vital you are a singer.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You want or not, it's happening.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
It's kind of weird that in my lifetime right now,
it's kind of like two lifetimes happening at once. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I'm not using his name even though I know his name.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
What does he think of this song? Come on? What
do you think of the song? Okay? Sam beautiful?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Yeah, I mean it makes me cry, Like I mean
watching her, like the music video definitely made me cry,
like instant.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
He doesn't cry.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I'm not much of a crier, but like I couldn't
hold back just watching those little clips of you, like
as a kid, like on the piano, Oh my.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
God, you guys should break you should break up. More.
Came up with a really good career.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Her songs were you know, based on our relationship.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Okay with it. My first hit song is called Psycho.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Sam, I mean, is it in my perspective, I'm gonna
play in another world.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I mean they broke up, temporarily break, they had a break,
a good break, and then the song came out of that.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Wow, I mean wow beautiful.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Is wow a good word?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Wow? That was beautiful And I gotta, I gotta, I
gotta have to share with everyone listening to us right now,
watching an artist listen to their song on the radio
for the first time.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Nothing better. I mean, Chicken parm is number one.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
And even Sam was excited. Did you cry?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yes, like right now, look at Psycho Sam's crying.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
I do have feelings sometimes and the text coming through
everyone loves it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh my gosh, look at that. Congratulations, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
H one more question, ask a million questions Demon Hunters two.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Mmmm, I would love that too, okay, mm hmm, I
mean probably, let's like be real. Yeah, four and five,
that's the dream. Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Is Golden your favorite song from the soundtrack?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yes, the one very much so. When I when we
wrote that, it's just like when we wrote it. It
was a last song. It's just everything just like came
together so easily for that song, and the moment the
melody came out, I was like, wow, like this is
pretty awesome. Yeah, it was just like it just felt
really good. And as a songwriter, we have those moments.
And that was that. And I love that your mic
(18:43):
is golden? Was that intentional? Great? It's like the shiniest
gold one. Great.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'm a little mad though, but hey, I know you
are definitely leaning toward the songwriting thing, but your voice is.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Just can't you do both? Why are you gonna be
so stingy like that? I'll try to come on.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Oh No, Singing is like I love singing and I
love like recording. As a recording artist, I definitely like
figured that part out, but like performing is a whole
different beast. It's a very different muscle and I'm trying
to like work on that part.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Is there an artist that you that would make you
kind of come out of that stage fright to perform
with them because you love this person so much?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Julia Michaels.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
That happened.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I think you told me your story and I'm like,
oh wait, she kind of sounds like what I would
what's going.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Through exactly, and then she's she's maneuvering it.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah. I love different, She's such I respect her so
much and I like learned she's in inspiration.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Didn't Bad Bunny dude the song on SNL the other night?
How cool was that?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
It was so fun? Always says every time, it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
If it doesn't work out with Sam Bad Bunny, I see.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You, I'll back off.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
We just played of Course's song in another world at
this text is what an amazing song you just played
by e J. It's perfect for what I'm going through
right now in my marriage, with the space between us.
I'm in tears. Another text I work in elementary school.
I can tell you Roomy is winning Halloween.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
I'm just going to pick the most expensive restaurant.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
We just oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Thank you for waking up early and coming in in
the middle of the night to see us.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Thank you for having all the way over from Brooklyn. God,
you must be just so hard, just tired. So what's
the rest of your day. You're going to go home
and go back to bed.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
I'm going to go see the billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
You have a billboard Times Square?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Will you?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Will you post it? Can we see you? You have
to do that? Are you going to pull people over?
Hate that? I'm like, you go get dirty, Elmo.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
You know, well, what a morning for you.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
You got to hear your song on the radio for
the first time, and now you're gonna go see your
billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Best morning after, Thank you, good for you.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Congratulations on everything that's happening and everything that is going
to happen, because that's that's going to be really exciting.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Better not screw this up, saying.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
You have to be the villain sounds.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Never going to approach another radio.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
And saying it was great having you here too. The
new single, the new single is in Another World. I
asked about the album, not getting an answer, But if
you're a songwriter like you are, I'm sure you'll write
yourself a couple of little songs.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
J Thanks for coming, Key Sujons Weird
Now remember how mad you got it me, Danielle, And
I said, I don't think that voice is real because.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's too perfect.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
And so the voice, the voice of Roomy, decided to
come in and slap me left and right.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Ej welcome to our show.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Look, I've been listening to music for a thousand years
because well look I'm old. I've heard every artist in
the business. Your voice is just right on. It's so perfect.
Every note is so pure.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Oh, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, let me say something about She's like, well, screw that.
I want to be a songwriter more than I do
a performer.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
You'd rather write songs than perform.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I have stage fright, so really absolutely, Jimmy Fallon, I
definitely had like a pan of guitar before.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He's a good friend of ours. He's the nicest guy
on their own nice.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
If Jimmy Fallon can't call me down, maybe maybe you
do have some straight stage.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Oh but he was so nice, so I did felt
feel really comfortable.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Wait, so you write the songs for the movie.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
How do you become like the girl that's singing the
songs and now like front and center, like you could
you have said.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You know, I'm not singing that, I'll just write it.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I was very close to that lie. I'm not gonna lie,
but you know, I'm just I love a character. I
love you know, Maggie Chrits. And when they asked me,
I was. I was honored to be honest, that's an honor.
But I was kind of very insecure with my voice
because I've been kind of told during my k pop
training days that my voice is too like old sounding.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
What oh stop it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
By the way, a little unknown fact about EJ she
is seventy eight years old.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Korean skin carry on.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Okay, Why is that Korean skincare that so good?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's beyond it leaps and bound beyond other skincare?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Why why?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
If you put a k on, it's just like me
Korean case food, like.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
For pasta hunters, I mean for Italy skincare. I go to.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
The cooking shows, the Korean cooking shows, like there's that
refrigerator one where they bring the refrager.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, this skit.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So they go to a celebrities house in Korea and
they get a refrigerator that's in their house and they
go through the refrigerator and they it's what's in their fridge.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So good and everyone's skin on this show is perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So you met Nate, our producer. If you went through
his refrigerator, you'd find a head from a woman he
killed three weeks ago. I'm so sorry to tell you that.
So did you know did you have a feeling? Did
you have a feeling that K Pop Demon Hunters would
be as massive as it is?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Definitely not. It was very I mean, we I love
a film and I've always thought the storyline was just incredible.
When I first received the you know that's the just
like the offer, and when I heard where, I was like, wow,
this has potential to be huge, but it's all about
the execution. When we saw it at the premiere, I
was like, wow, this is good, but to this level. No,
(03:10):
absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, it's insane. It's interesting how and it's a movement.
I'll just say it's a movement because hear from our perspective.
We'll play we're playing Golden right, and we'll have a man,
a father call him and say, my daughter and I
actually bond over this film. And the only thing I
hate about the film is she's forced me to watch
(03:32):
it fifty thousand.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, we love that, of.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Course you do.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I just so I know.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
You said that you get nervous and you have stage right,
which I totally understand.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Do these kind of things make you nervous? Like right now? Okay?
I love interviews because I feel like talking to people.
I love socializing and talking to people, so not as much,
not really when you're singing a really hard song like Golden, Yeah,
that definitely makes me get scary.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
I think you've got the perfect career trajectory, Like if
I could pick it.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
She said before you came in, she said, I want
that career.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
That's what I would want.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Like famous in your thirties, so you've had a normal upbringing.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Oh you understand like what.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
You have and by you your cartoon so you don't
have to worry. I love that, you know, ever being
seventy eight or whatever it is and you get to
sing and write music. I mean that would be the
dream dream job really.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I mean, honestly, before the K pop even Hunter is
like thing K pop, Like I was a K pop
trainee and I you know, I got dropped, but I
found out while a songwriting that that's my personal like
my personality fits as a songwriter, and then I might.
I was like to my co writer, I was like,
you know, if I ever wrote a debut as a
as a singer, I want to be an animated character.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, whoever dropped I'm an idiot?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah it might have been fired today it happens for
it was like what you said, like in my twenties,
I got normal, like amazing like twenties and then my thirties.
My front toal lope is like fully developed like I have.
You know, yeah, you can appreciate it and you're not
gonna scientifically true, you know, yes, like was my main.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
To the music?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Did you write? Did you write sodopop?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I wrote half of the t I wrote Golden, how
It's done, the mantra and your idol and also the
parts of what it sounds.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Like as wow, okay, I have to go back for
a second. You're a k pop training yes, what does
that mean?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Essentially for ten years, for a very long time, since
I was eleven, I got castid and then you'd go
through this rigorous training system to become a K pop idol.
And so that was like eleven till twenty two. What woah?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
What are they playing through? Like what's the camp?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Like? Oh, it's like essentially, like, uh, you learn Korean? Welly? Sorry,
Well for me, I had to get better at Korean
and then dancing, singing, jazz, dancing, rapping, Chinese, Japanese.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Am I too old to do this? Am I too
wan to be a K pop training?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
No one's ever.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You need to free your mind.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
By the way, if you're wondering what's going on, EJ
is here, of course, the voice and writer of Golden
and I'm gonna play a song from you though wait
wait you you are you?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But you have your own album coming out single right now? Yes,
well so that's it. Well maybe maybe two songs.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Maybe album, yes, but like, yeah, essentially I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Play that second.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
By the way, we are also live on Z one
hundreds Instagram at Z one hundred, New York.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Who gave you authority to do that? Ej?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You gotta pay her some residuals, so e j Uh.
As far as writing music goes, I mean, we have
many friends in the music business who are writers. Not
to be shallow, but here I go. I mean they
walk out to that mailbox every day and the checks
just arrive. Man, writing songs, it's it's a business.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
It's a great business.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And people a lot of people think that the performance
and is where is where the payoff is, and it
is in many ways. But writing these songs, oh my gosh,
it's definitely.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Is it true? You don't have a record deal?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah? I don't. I have one? Or I do have
an independent record Okay? Yes?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Do you want a major label or do you like?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I don't think you do.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Let me be your manager. I need cash. I need cash.
So you you live out in You're in New York.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You're in New Yorker, Yes, I am, but but in Brooklyn, right,
and so you know, I'm I'm a Manhattan guy.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Through and through I'm like, oh, where do you live? Manhattan? No? Brooklyn?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well did you ever come into our little island cold Manhattan? Yeah,
just East Village exactly?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
That's what that you quoting me? Yes, that's literally very
much true.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And then looked at me like, oh where do you live?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I said? Downtown?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Then I was accepted.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
By did you stand melt a little coming into Midtown?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
What a life? I'm assuming we just met. I'm assuming
that you have a great life going.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I mean definitely busy. I definitely need some sleep. What
busy with press and writing, you know and press about
being the songwriter but also actually writing for K pop
and pop and then my artist project too.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So I mean, how does your writing process works? I mean,
of all the songwriters we've met, I mean the sea
is and the name them, they'll they'll bring in their
voice notes or they'll bring it. They all have a
different process of how they write songs. How do you
write songs?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well, first, I think what kind of differentiates me with
other writers is I like zoom sessions. I'm a very
much at home. I like to vocal produce and record myself.
So I have my system and my vocal chains that
I love so much that he made for me. He yes,
my fiance he's also does audio engineering.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I didn't know we could refer to he.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
But he es. So basically like what I have my
you know, able to open and they would send me
a track and I would just lay down a bunch
of melodies and with that melody, I kind of have
concepts already or you know, or the melody inspires a concept.
So for me, two important things Concept has to be
really strong and really good melodies.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
So do you first, I know, I know you just
said the concept of the melody, but do you write
the song and then pick an artist or do you
ever write a song specifically for an artist because you
think that voice would be perfect?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Definitely usually out of for like efficiency's sake, Like we
do keep like an artist in mind, but it goes
somewhere else and it's totally fine, but like, yeah that's
usually the case. Yeah, for an artist.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, I'm in awe of what you do. I mean,
to be able to write a song. I mean, I
can't even draw a chick figure. I have no art
at all in my mind. I mean, this is an artist
right here. Gandhi is an artist, and Danielle you would
easily be a superstar in a Broadway show. And I'm
just having that thing that you were born with, that
(10:15):
that God or the universe gave you or bestowed upon you.
It's just a magical thing. I mean, do you actually
sit down with yourself and go, Okay, I'm very grateful
for what's happening here.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I mean, what's that? What's that like?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Because anyone listening right now, no matter what they're doing
in life, they should have those same conversations with themselves.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, I think one thing for sure that I that
I wish, I mean I wish, like I think would
helped me before this all happened. That helped. What I heard,
like interviews with writers is that imposter syndrome was really normal.
So I am feeling I'm grateful, but imposter syndrome just
never goes away. I'm always like, this is cool, But like,
(10:58):
am I really good? I don't know, Like sometimes I
question it still can I keep going? Like can I
write another really good song? Like that's always in my head?
So like, but I think that's a good thing because
it does like push me to like keep getting better.
I'm still wanting to get better. I still have a
lot to work on.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I think I think those conversations with yourself can be healthy.
It's some I think it is not to the point
where it just drags you down.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Are you fully prepared for Halloween and everybody being roomy?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I am so excited?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Like we have a bet with the other girls, like
with Audriy and ray and it We're just like I
wonder who's which character is going to be the most popular. Okay,
because like maybe Bob, because like it's so easy.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Now, what's on the line with this?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Bet? Food?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Always food? By the way, are those your real eyes?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
What do you mean? Gorgeous? Are those are my contacts?
I always it's a Korean?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Is that a Korean thing? Okay?
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Can I eye contacts?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Can I go to.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Korea get someone else's eyes?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm gonna go to Turkey get new hair.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Korea's GOODA have that too? And spitting it?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh my god? If I but look, I got this.
I need Korean hair right here?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Still too?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Who do you know?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Who?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Who is this person over here?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
This is my niece Ella?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Come here, come here, come here? Have you met did
you meet J? Back in the background?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So beautiful?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So she she skipped school today just to meet you.
I guess she's being for Halloween. Yeah, talking to.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
The that's so cool.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
HI got answered for her? Sorry?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Do your friends at school know that you're meeting J today?
And have they said anything to you about that?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And they were just surprised that I'm meeting her?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Oh well, you're so beautiful and smart and gorgeous. And
I bet they loved you before you met e J.
So you got that going for you.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Go ahead, Oh, what's your Why do you like me
so much? I was just curious.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Because she's the best one.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, you know what, that's like the best answer, I
mean the best.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
To the point. Okay, go sit down, get out of it.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
She's so cute.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Cut gosh. When I was a kid, I was never
that cute. So I'm going to play. You're saying, why
are you laughing? Don't laugh at failure.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
All I ever wanted to be was a nine year
old girl.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's all I wanted.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
What do you mean you're so successful?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
The universe dashed by hope. I want to play your
song and you're welcome. She's more than roomy, the voice
of Rumy, she's J. She's the voice of J. So
talk about this song we're about.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
To play, all right. In another world is.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
A song in another world?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
And yeah, so in another world it's basically I wrote
this song like two years ago at a song camp.
And during the camp, oh, like it's like a songwriting
like week. So you like are with different producers and
writers for each for each day, and like, yeah, you
just write songs for a purpose. For that one, it
(14:27):
was like for sync or for like a movie or something,
and it was in Canada and I wrote it with
my co writers Teddy and Brie. And essentially, like during
that time, my fiance and I had a really healthy break.
It was intentional. We were really good, but we wanted
to break so much. Yeah, but like it's always a guys,
(14:55):
it's always right. Yeah, But like you know, during this time,
you know, we were thinking about like you know, I
needed some like essentially space to reassess. And it was
like if we were to part ways, like what's a
way to cope with that? And for me it was
you know, just knowing that maybe just like in this
(15:15):
lifetime it was just not meant for us. You know,
the trauma and the you know, baggage that we had
kind of cause the resentment. So it's not you or
me that's the issue. It is just in this life
we had it. So it's like accepting that and the
whole idea of like infinite reality is kind of took
awful lot of the weight off the pressure.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
This is a deep song, yessay. It really is too
much for me to comprehend.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
It's like a fantasy breakup song, but it it's not
just like relationships like romantic. It also is like relationship
with me and myself as a kid, my dream to
become a singer, Like I had to let that go.
And the way of like coping with that was just
like accepting the fact that, like in this lifetime, you know,
it's just not meant for it, but you know it's okay,
Like I bet, I bet in another lifetime, like I'm
probably killing it. It's okayble vital you are a singer.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You want or not, it's happening.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
It's kind of weird that in my lifetime right now,
it's kind of like two lifetimes happening at once. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I'm not using his name even though I know his name.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
What does he think of this song? Come on? What
do you think of the song? Okay? Sam beautiful?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Yeah, I mean it makes me cry, Like I mean
watching her, like the music video definitely made me cry,
like instant.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
He doesn't cry.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I'm not much of a crier, but like I couldn't
hold back just watching those little clips of you, like
as a kid, like on the piano, Oh my.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
God, you guys should break you should break up. More.
Came up with a really good career.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Her songs were you know, based on our relationship.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Okay with it. My first hit song is called Psycho.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Sam, I mean, is it in my perspective, I'm gonna
play in another world.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I mean they broke up, temporarily break, they had a break,
a good break, and then the song came out of that.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Wow, I mean wow beautiful.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Is wow a good word?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Wow? That was beautiful And I gotta, I gotta, I
gotta have to share with everyone listening to us right now,
watching an artist listen to their song on the radio
for the first time.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Nothing better. I mean, Chicken parm is number one.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
And even Sam was excited. Did you cry?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yes, like right now, look at Psycho Sam's crying.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
I do have feelings sometimes and the text coming through
everyone loves it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh my gosh, look at that. Congratulations, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
H one more question, ask a million questions Demon Hunters two.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Mmmm, I would love that too, okay, mm hmm, I
mean probably, let's like be real. Yeah, four and five,
that's the dream. Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Is Golden your favorite song from the soundtrack?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yes, the one very much so. When I when we
wrote that, it's just like when we wrote it. It
was a last song. It's just everything just like came
together so easily for that song, and the moment the
melody came out, I was like, wow, like this is
pretty awesome. Yeah, it was just like it just felt
really good. And as a songwriter, we have those moments.
And that was that. And I love that your mic
(18:43):
is golden? Was that intentional? Great? It's like the shiniest
gold one. Great.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'm a little mad though, but hey, I know you
are definitely leaning toward the songwriting thing, but your voice is.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Just can't you do both? Why are you gonna be
so stingy like that? I'll try to come on.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Oh No, Singing is like I love singing and I
love like recording. As a recording artist, I definitely like
figured that part out, but like performing is a whole
different beast. It's a very different muscle and I'm trying
to like work on that part.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Is there an artist that you that would make you
kind of come out of that stage fright to perform
with them because you love this person so much?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Julia Michaels.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
That happened.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I think you told me your story and I'm like,
oh wait, she kind of sounds like what I would
what's going.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Through exactly, and then she's she's maneuvering it.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah. I love different, She's such I respect her so
much and I like learned she's in inspiration.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Didn't Bad Bunny dude the song on SNL the other night?
How cool was that?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
It was so fun? Always says every time, it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
If it doesn't work out with Sam Bad Bunny, I see.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You, I'll back off.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
We just played of Course's song in another world at
this text is what an amazing song you just played
by e J. It's perfect for what I'm going through
right now in my marriage, with the space between us.
I'm in tears. Another text I work in elementary school.
I can tell you Roomy is winning Halloween.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
I'm just going to pick the most expensive restaurant.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
We just oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Thank you for waking up early and coming in in
the middle of the night to see us.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Thank you for having all the way over from Brooklyn. God,
you must be just so hard, just tired. So what's
the rest of your day. You're going to go home
and go back to bed.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
I'm going to go see the billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
You have a billboard Times Square?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Will you?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Will you post it? Can we see you? You have
to do that? Are you going to pull people over?
Hate that? I'm like, you go get dirty, Elmo.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
You know, well, what a morning for you.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
You got to hear your song on the radio for
the first time, and now you're gonna go see your
billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Best morning after, Thank you, good for you.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Congratulations on everything that's happening and everything that is going
to happen, because that's that's going to be really exciting.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Better not screw this up, saying.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
You have to be the villain sounds.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Never going to approach another radio.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
And saying it was great having you here too. The
new single, the new single is in Another World. I
asked about the album, not getting an answer, But if
you're a songwriter like you are, I'm sure you'll write
yourself a couple of little songs.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
J Thanks for coming, Key Sujons Weird
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