Keep Klimbing with Brett Graves | New Partnership Announcement: Boost App | YBMcast

Big news in the world of baseball development! In this episode of Keep Klimbing, Brett Graves announces an exciting new partnership between Premier Pitching Performance and Scout Connect, founded by Diego Solares — all centered around Premier’s brand-new Boost App.

What is the Boost App?
Boost is a powerful new web app designed to provide a wide variety of solutions for baseball players:
⚾ View your data from trainings and assessments
📥 Download FREE bonus content
🎓 Access education and certification courses anytime
💻 Available at boost.premierpitching.com

Brett dives into what this means for player development, recruiting, and how it fits into the mission of Keep Klimbing — helping athletes reach their highest potential.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
What's going on everybody. Welcome back, Thank you for checking
out this very special episode of the Keep Climbing Podcast.
I'm Brett Graves and I've got Diego Solaris.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Let's say that right. Yeah, it's that those big league clubhouses. Yeah,
I've heard that name a time or two.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Thank you guys for checking out this show. We've got
a special edition today. Got a cool announcement that we
wanted to bring to you guys today. First, basically, what
I wanted to say was, you know, this has been
in the works for a while. I think this is
going to continue to evolve in a lot of different possibilities.
But as of today, August seventeenth, we're announcing a partnership

(00:45):
between Premiere Pitching Performance and Scout Connect and we're building
into BOOST. We've talked plenty through the last like six
or eight months about what we've been doing through our
training assessments and playershboard, you know, trying to build a
very comprehensive system that helps provide players with a lot

(01:07):
of different things that they need, a lot of different information,
a lot of different resources, and the next big step
for that for us is tackling some things on the
scouting and recruiting side of things, and that's where Diego
and Scout Connect really come in. So I think it's
going to be a really great journey for us to
kind of walk down. I think there's a lot of

(01:28):
different things that already exist out in like the baseball ecosystem,
if you will, that that do a lot of good things.
They really specialize in one particular area. So through this partnership,
I think we're really going to be able to localize
a lot of that for players and for coaches and
help bring everything kind of back into one centralized location

(01:49):
for all of our players that are that are training
at our facilities, that are attending Scout Connect you know
events or tournaments or showcases. And I think it could
be a really cool, big opportunity. So the first thing
I wanted to ask to mister Diego is, uh, you know,
just a little background on maybe like where scalt Connect
came from. You know, what, what's your motives and passions?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
You know within it and you know where it all started.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah. Uh, scalt Connect started in November last year kind
of honestly out of nowhere. Uh. It was just an idea,
I guess a passion. You could say that was created
by throwing stuff at a wall and hoping it stuck.
You know, it kind of built the foundation for it

(02:35):
in the winter. Had our first winter event last year
in February, kind of took off a little bit. That
part laid into the spring, into the summer, and there's
some tournaments to some more events. I guess where the
passion or like the idea, the motivations, the drive whatever is.
I just like baseball, man, I like baseball. I like

(02:55):
watching baseball. I wasn't a very good player. So the
evaluation in side, the analysis side, the scouting side, the
recruiting relationships, exposure side, all of it, uh, kind of
packaged into one is what I would describe Scout connect
as is just another platform, one of several very good ones, uh,

(03:16):
to put players in front of college coaches. It's and
honestly that's high school players, junior college players. You know.
Obviously we partnered for the transfer portal deal at Carshield
in June. So it's all just a constant stream of
hopefully consistency, but also going in as many directions as
we can. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well, I think one thing that's very clearly stuck out
to me, is is your love and passion for the game,
but like your your passion for just scouting in general,
and like covering some of these games. And I mean
you're out, You're out at a game every day. It
seems like, you know what I mean, Like you just
love probably too many Yeah, you love watching baseball and yeah,
and I mean, you know, and social media becoming what

(03:59):
it what it has, you know these days. You know, everybody,
everybody on the face of the earth loves the recognition
for the work that they're putting in, you know. And
I've had so many people even say to me, knowing
our affiliation with scalcnnect and how ingrained it's become in
a lot of our operations, is that like you know,
after we did that that you know, showcase day, the

(04:21):
portal day in our league, I had I had at
least like five players after that day come out of
their way to say something to me like, man, like
thank you so much for putting this on, you know,
And I think we lose some we lose some sight
of like how impactful and like how much it means
deeply to some of these players, because you know it
wasn't long ago that we were in their type of

(04:42):
scenario where it's like, man, like they're trying to figure
out their life. They're trying to figure out how baseball
fits into that, like moving forward. And for a lot
of these players, especially from sixteen to twenty, you know,
all I would say, that's a very you know, even
younger than that, but that's when it seems very dense
or heavy, you know, for a lot of them that,
you know, what happens with baseball is really going to

(05:03):
dictate a lot of the course of the you know,
the next five to ten years of their life, you know.
So I think sometimes we lose sight of that because
we're running around within it, you know, so like our heads.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Cut off, you know, sometimes you know that we lose
sight of that.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
But I have five guys after that, they seek me
out after that game got over, just like, man, thank
you so much. And it hit me. I was like, yeah,
holdly out, like this means something.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's the best part about them, man, it's yeah, and
the and the and the dynamic to me was like,
you know, in my I didn't say this to them obviously,
said hey, like thanks man, like I appreciate it like
glad you had a good time, hope it helps, Like
it was great, you did great, you know, And in
my head.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I was like, man, all we did was just like
schedule some stuff. They put together an event, some people came,
a game was played.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Some data yeh, some guys.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
We text some coaches, some friends that we have and
said like, hey, we're hosting this event. Like it was
just a little pre thought out planning or scheduling to
put it together for them, and really just a basic
game that had people in attendance to either cover it,
scout it, and put stuff out on social media about guys,
which everyone loves and appreciates. To have coaches come into

(06:06):
an event like that, to be able to watch and
see with their own eyes, to be able to like
see and leverage some in game data that we were
able to collect on it, you know, some sixty times
and stuff like that before the games. But I don't
know that was the biggest thing that stood out to me.
I guess in some of those conversations were just like
let's not lose sight about how like heavy this feels
for all these kids, you know, especially like like I said,

(06:28):
like sixteen to twenty like getting into junior college and
some of those things that, like, you know, the decisions
that they make with baseball is really going to affect
you know, I want to sound too overboard about it,
but like could affect the trajectory of their entire life.
I mean like it certainly did for me.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, like if you're playing, if you're a college athlete,
it's going to you know, baseball can dictate where you're
going to go to school, and that can dictate who
you meet.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, like who you marry, who.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
You marry when your job goes. Where you're down here
is like it's silly because it's a you know, it's
a game, right, But I mean you're right. That's that.
That to me is the biggest thing. And like as
cliche as it sounds, I can sit here in front
of a mic and a camera and be like I
do it to help people out. But like we ran
our Summer Games event at s a u E June

(07:14):
eleventh of this year, and that to me is like
kind of the Mona Lisa of our Scout connect events.
It's a showcase. It's two games you're playing in front
of coaches, like you're all the pitchers, all are are
are throwing to It's it's a real baseball game. It's
just too like like we don't keep score, but in
front of colleges and everything, and you know, we're we're

(07:36):
at the point of the summer now where some of
those twenty six is that attended that event are starting
to commit and a lot of them are committing to
schools that were there in attendance, and like.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Get to see it come from.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
That's just cool. Yeah, it's just cool, Like you reach out,
like like people reach out and they're like, hey, you know,
so and so wasn't on me until that day, and
you know they contacted me after and the whole process
led to the commitment and that is just really cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, it's definitely a full circle experience. And I think,
you know, and a lot of what we've been doing
from a data collection and the overall presentation of that data,
you know, really before we ever even officially met, you know,
like I had I had my own you know, interests
or desire just to like organize the data appropriately enough

(08:27):
so it could be consumed in that fashion because because
well there's already so many coaches that are you know,
calling us and our staff about about said players. You
know that like you know, we could just streamline some
of this also to some of these conversations could be
much more you know, streamlined and direct, you know, but
then also able to like maybe widen that scope and

(08:49):
help through our system, through our dashboard, help out you know,
in a wider capacity you know, of players and of coaches.
And again I go back to that a statement I
said before. It's just it's just like a little bit
more pre thought planning and scheduling of building the overall
like structure of the system, so that can be consumed

(09:09):
in different ways, you know, because you know I've talked
about this in past episodes too, that that you know,
data data can be viewed in two very different ways.
You know, data can be viewed in a in a
development you know mind, you know, and and direction data
also is very much so used in an evaluation process.

(09:30):
And you know, there's two very different ways I guess
of going about that. And and you know, already withinside
of Premiere, like we were looking at that as in
like well when they come in and do assessment, we're
already kind of evaluating, you know, not not necessarily to
put a pin on them and say like, well you're
going to go to this school or this is where
you fit in or whatever. But we're already evaluating them

(09:52):
saying like well this is where you're at okay, And
then we have these athlete recap meetings to discuss like, well,
where do you want to go?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
You know, what's your goals? What do you try and
accomplish here?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
You know, and then our coaches build programs to help them,
you know, get there.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
You have to do that. Yeah, yeah, you have to
have something MP Yeah, a roadmap. That's a great way
to put it, like something some kind of backing so
that you can sit down and tell somebody like you're here.
To get to where you want to be, you have
to do this, and that's how you you you build everything.
I want to go back to the data thing because obviously,
like we can get into the profiles and whatnot, and

(10:25):
but I talked to so many schools, so many coaches
this summer, especially on the pitching side, like like we
can stay on the pitching side because the track man data, right,
Like it's so valuable to be able to capture something
that that you can't see, like you can't we wouldn't
be able to pull with my eyes and be like,
that's an eighteen inch vertical break fastball, Like you can't, right,

(10:47):
But so many schools, like when they're evaluating a player,
like what's his fastball data? Yeah, what's his slider data?
Is it is it more of a sweeper? Is it
a true slider? Is it a cutter? Is it a
kick change? Is it a normal change? Like that's the way,
whether it's right or wrong. Like, maybe some of the
questions should just be does he throw strikes? Does he
get dudes out? Like? And some people still ask that question.

(11:08):
But the data from an evaluation, from a scouting, from
a recruiting standpoint is so important because all these people
are doing what you guys are doing and they're looking
at the data and being like, Okay, his fastball's here.
If I tweak this, can his fastball get to hear?
Does this make him a better player? Yep? It's just

(11:29):
so important.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, And you know, our ability within the game of
baseball to identify, you know, pitch metrics that produce success
has just evolved so much over the last five to
ten years, and it's just going to continue to do that,
you know, And that's that's a lot of you know,
I think some of the you know, fringy benefits of
you know, having a partnership like this is that, you know,

(11:51):
our role within all of this is very much so
on the you know, high tech data collection but R
and D side of things, you know. And the way
I envision this evolving is that Scout connects more of
the consumable I don't know, filter filtering of that information,

(12:12):
like what you're saying, like being able to use like
the eighteen vertical break, you know, scenario that you gave
to help identify, you know, pitches that can produce success
at the next level, because it's some of the hardest
things for a SCOUT recruiter to identify is that, like
you know, outside of the radar gun, you know, like,
you know, fifteen years ago, we'd watch a guy pitch
and be like, yeah, man, he's throwing you know, three
miles an hour slower than that guy over there, but

(12:33):
they swing and miss at all his pitches and they
don't swing and miss at his Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Now we know, yeah, we have Now we know that
every ninety min hour fastball is not the same every
ninety five mile on our fastball is not the same,
Like that guy's fastball get crushed, this guy's doesn't.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
And we used to just say that guy throws ghost balls. Yeah, yes,
can't see him he's throwing the green line.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah. I mean, now we have something to quantify. Okay,
this is why it happens.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
And it's becoming so much more ingrained in that scouting
and recruiting process, you know, from a college level on
even professional level. You know, obviously the professional level probably
gets way more deep, you know, with with you know,
force plate metrics and all kinds of other things that
they're looking at. But basically all these teams are building
their own models, similar to like what we're building at Premiere,

(13:17):
to say or predict or at least you know, some
type of trajectory of like what this player you know,
could wind up being, you know, and like so to
take that evaluation conversation that we were having earlier. It's
kind of like where he's at, but also understanding, you know,
where we think in our program we can get him to,
you know, whether that be you know, us training him,

(13:37):
or that be the you know, Saint Louis Cardinals or whoever,
you know, like they're they're looking at kind of and
in your traditional scouting grade, you would have done the
same thing. You give this kid a thirty five when
you watch him and e check to what the future is.
Sure it could be a fifty five at his command
or whatever. Right, But now we've just got better objective
ways to identify some of those things that you know,
over the course of the next five to ten years.

(13:59):
You know, my personal belief and why I wanted to
pursue this so much is because I think over the
next ten years, like that's just going to go through
the roof. You know, it's already getting so popular that
that even all the way down to some of like
your smaller.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Schools, it's already happening. It is, it's already happened.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
And I think I think, you know, the next wave
of all this is going to be getting force played
stuff into some of these getting biomechs scoring into some
of these Those are some of the R and D
projects like we're working on right now, a biomech scoring
system so that people can throw on our motion capture
tool and not only just see like a delivery score,

(14:36):
because that's valuable for sure, but like you know, when
I tell people about it, is like think about like
You're Madden or your mb the show. You got all
these different ratings for these different categories of the player
that ultimately result in an overall grade, you know. And
that's some of the things we want to be able
to do and focus on with our R and D
efforts to then also transition over into scouting profiles for

(14:57):
people to start to use, because at the end of
the day, we also aren't thinking or expecting that everyone's
going to become some expert in reading biomech data, but
they would like to know if it's good or not
yew and we already get phone calls like that all
the time. Well you know, what's his biomech look like?
It's like wow, you know this is clean and that
could be better. And you know, but if he cleans
up this, it could affect that. And like, so building
a scoring system so that your normal you know, baseball

(15:19):
person can see and read and consume that and say oh, yeah, okay,
well here's where he's at and here's where he could be. Like,
it provides a ton of valued information where you know,
going back to maybe the concept here or the overall
structure is that you know, most of the way that
exists right now is that like you've either got a
scouting company that like just as doing and running that

(15:40):
race that you're running, or you've got a you know,
data collection player development minded place, then that's the route
that they're running that like through boost, we have a
really cool opportunity here to make a cool blend of
both that that you know, as far as I'm concerned,
as far as what I've seen, like doesn't exist yet,
you know, like there isn't you know, think about think
about the training facility that you have heard of the most,

(16:03):
you know, with the scouting company that you've been to
most of their events or showcases, and and you know,
taking those two systems and like putting them together so
that each of them can kind of piggyback off of
each other and and let you do what you do
well and then let us do what we do well,
and but putting it all together in a system or
a dashboard so that all of the players can can

(16:24):
consume or or you know, I don't know, use use
that information however like they need or see fit for
the you know, circumstances they're in basically, So yeah, there's
a lot of different routes that you could go on it.
Certainly there's going to be things that you know, on
both sides of the fence.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
We we.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
You know, have our own races to run, I guess
and in that regards, you know, but there's gonna be
some cool overlap there where, you know, just through the
dynamics of the partnership, you know, you're not going to
get anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Basically, you're not going to get anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
And and to me, that's what's cool as far as
like the concept goes to you know, the the the
idea for me and like events, and we've also talked
about this in past episodes, but about how you know
this event schedule could or should you know, fit into
your training calendar, you know, like it it's a it's

(17:15):
always a topic of conversation, you know, but you know,
you'll get into a showcase season and a kid will
come in and like throw a bullpen, or a player
or like throw a bullpen and maybe not communicate as
well as he should have, and he's got some event
on Sunday while he's throwing a bullpen you know, with
his coach on Thursday or Friday, you know, and he's
just not going to be or peaking, yeah, full go

(17:36):
for the event on Sunday that you know, taking some
of these events and embedding them into our existing like calendar.
There's a ton of there's a ton of like success,
I guess within that just for like optimizing optimizing the
performance within said showcase because you're not going to perform
as well in that showcase. Be throw off the bump
on Friday, right, But then also from a build up
and mitigation of injury risk, you know, like you know,

(18:00):
you throwing you know, back to back high intensity days,
like what that does for your overall like you know,
workload ratios, Like it throws it totally you know, off
the loop. And most of the time when player injuries happen,
they happen during that build up phase. Like go look
at the major league statistics, and when most of the
injuries happen, they happen from like March fifteenth to like
May fifteenth. If you can make it bast like May

(18:20):
fifteenth and probably professional season, you're probably good, you know,
you know, and there's always like things that can come up.
For sure, that's not full proof, but like that's what
the statistics say is the most like heightened sense of
awareness time for like injury risk, you know, and and
a lot of those things you know, can stem from
too quickly, like going through some of those build phases

(18:41):
you know early in the season that you just didn't
lay a good enough foundation to you know, provide that
longevity for your ar. I'm sure you might go out
and throw ninety three at something and whatever, you know,
but if ultimately that takes you away from the field
when these coaches are coming back to see you. Because
most of the time, I mean, there's definitely some circumstances
where like you go to an event, you're like, Okay,

(19:03):
that's a guy I gotta get right. But but you
know well enough too that like you go to a
lot of these events, you know, like you've got to
be ready to put your best foot forward. Because my
personal experience at events, especially with a lot of players
at them, like there's way more names that get crossed
off lists than get circled, you know, so like the
importance of showing up to these you know, tournaments, events

(19:24):
showcases putting your best foot forward that you know, we
encourage all of our players that, like we're having the
conversation about what events.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
You want to go through in February.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Right now it's August and your season's just ending, and
most of the people are like, well, what are you
even talking about? And they don't even probably know yet
when when you know their their club team or whatever
is you know hosting these events. But it needs to
be part of that conversation because the way you build
any these training programs is you kind of take the
end goal and site and then you work backwards all
the way off of it. You know, like you're not
all just reacting to things that are ahead of you.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
So whatever long, long story short, you know, the benefit
to me and implementing some of the events in the
training calendar has been a big win for you know
a lot of our players in the training programs that
they've been able to have this year too.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, I think a part of that is important is
I do think the winter event and I'm not just
saying this as somebody that runs him or whatever, like
obviously I could have a vesting interest in it, but
from a recruiting standpoint, I do think that winter events
are important because that is how schools set up who

(20:28):
they have to see. Yeah, like if you get some
pop up kid, Like, I'll just use this kid as
an example. Owen Stoffel is a kid from a Fallon
He's a twenty twenty six grad. It's not a winter event.
It's he's been off the mound recently here, but he
tours acl playing basketball in January, so still working his
way back. A guy that didn't have a spring season,

(20:50):
didn't have a summer season. He is throwing bullpens now
and he's uper eights, like touching ninety. He's left handed
with a thirty five act like people that stuff is
important for that to be out there because now people
are going to go and see that kid. In the fall.
It's the same thing in the winter. These schools are
building their prospect lists for you know, for some of

(21:13):
them the spring, but a majority of the high school
recruiting takes place in the summer. So if you're not
full go at those events, like there's an opportunity for
you not to potentially get on someone's radar that you
might want to. Which is why we talked about this too,
the importance of not going to events in February so

(21:34):
early on in the month and making sure that it
lines up more with Hey I'm probably going to be
more built up by the end of the month because
that's when that's going to lead right into the high
school season.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Amen. Amen, you know, And I think the the point
basically in all of that is is is you can
you can go to a lot of these events and
like get yourself on a radar, you know, get get
on somebody's radar. But at the end of the day,
you know, you're probably not getting signed just from set event,
they're coming back to see you, you know, So the
blend basically exactly what we were both talking about. They're like,

(22:06):
get on the radar and make sure that whatever you
do to get on the radar is not affecting the
next time that they come back to see you. And
that's like the best way to navigate that entire scheduler
scenario for yourself. That you know, any event that you
go to, if it's the biggest event in the country
and it does something to take you, you know, out

(22:26):
of competition or good health or whatever two months later,
you know, or even just increases the risk that you
could then you probably shouldn't go. You know, you probably
shouldn't go, but you know, everything that you can do
leading up to that. To prepare and to be ready
for that is an opportunity for you to get on
somebody's radar so that when they come back to see you,
they've got such a vetting process that they go through.

(22:47):
They're calling your coaches, they're trying to figure out what
kind of person you are, they're trying to figure out
what kind of student you are. They're trying to build
some type of initial relationship with you too, to see
if you're gonna even fit in their clubs or.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
If you're interested in the program. Yeah, like so many
different things. For me, there's there's two types of events,
Like there's straight showcases and then there's like the events
that have a showcase integrated in some form of gameplay.
I would say both styles of event. Obviously, if a
coach goes and sees you actually play in a game,
they're probably going to be more interested in because they're

(23:19):
going to get to see what you're doing in a
game like setting, not just in shirts like T shirt
and shorts. But all events are just identifiers, like these
guys are going to go out and they're going to
see you, and if you're not at your best foot forward,
it's definitely hurting you more than it's benefiting you.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yea, amen, Yeah, And I think that's still like the
events in the showcases and the ternaments has gotten so
popular these days, you know, and like kind of a
fomo you know thing for a lot of people that like,
well they're going to that.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Event, like so I have to go there.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, I have to go there, And they lack some
understanding maybe of like how it fits into their calendar,
you know, what type of schools and people are in
attendance to do that.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Am I at the right tournament or showcase or.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Event because obviously everybody is looking to go to the
best and biggest competition and that's all exciting and whatever too.
And then you know, we could talk about some of
the you know issues that that causes all the way
down into like club ball these days, you know that
like finding finding the best fit for you, you know,

(24:22):
in regards to a college or a school is extremely important.
You know, the coaches are trying to figure out if
you're going to fit within their program and their clubhouse
and their system.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know, like you.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Should be equally trying to do that, but you should
also be trying to do that as far as like
these events are concerned.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Too, you know, like what makes sense? Yeah, what makes
makes sense for.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
You most because you don't have an endless amount of
like time, like you got all these different events to
pick from, like which ones resources either yeah, and money
to go to, right, like spend your time and your
money like the most efficient you know, to get to
accomplish like your your end goal, you know. And I
think I think understanding what your end goal is is
probably the first and foremost there like where you fit

(24:58):
into that and what you're looking to accomplish, and then
you can kind of start to line out like what
all those things are for you, whether it be teams
to play, for events to attend, showcases to attend, you know,
and then ultimately pick and like what college you know
is going to continue to you know, provide an opportunity
for you, you know. And I think I think that's
that's all anybody should be trying to do. It's like

(25:18):
what what what am I going to do today? What
am I going to do this month? What am I
going to do this year? To just extend my baseball career?
And that's all that if if if you're looking at
it like through that lens where I think people get
messed up as they're looking at like, well, just like
this this week, you know, like we've got this thing,
and like I mean, you got to be able to
zoom out. I think a little bit further than that,

(25:38):
understand how it fits in like the big picture for you,
you know. So yeah, so you know, as far as
the system is concerned, less, maybe just talk to the
very logistical things of how it's going to operate. Why
don't you start first with like just the player profiles,
what what what was important for you to like get
in there right away? And then and then maybe some

(25:58):
two cents on, you know, some teasers on like what's
to come.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
The biggest thing for me was just to be able,
like to be able to provide an individual athlete with
a clean layout place where all their information from a showcase,
a tournament, a high school game, for it all to
be housed in one spot they can continuously get updated
by myself or whoever else is seeing the player, and

(26:26):
for them to get that as like a complementary piece
of coming to an event or us seeing you. So
like it's either like at a showcase or if I'm
at like a Triad Edwardsville game, and I see a
guy that's eighty eight ninety one, Like, I'm gonna go
and make them a player profile, upload that information, put
a video from Twitter in there, and I think that

(26:48):
creates a lot of value for me and for the athletes,
for Scout connect in general. That was the biggest thing
for me. The player layout. Obviously it's not we don't
have visuals up right now right, but like the player layout,
the way the information is is hosted is super clean,
super easy to digest, and like for me, it's easy.

(27:11):
I think for the player it's going to be good.
I think for the player's family it's going to be
easy for them to see everything. And then obviously, probably
most importantly for any college coach that is looking at
the database, they're going to be able to pull the
player profile up and see everything they need to see
right away.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeap went from the coaches standpoint, they're like understanding what
this looks like through their lens is super valuable too.
That they've got so many players and so much data
and so much thing, so many things to consider that
it's got to be like clean and efficient for them
to work through. Waste time, Yeah, so that they see, Yeah,
so they don't have to waste time and they see

(27:46):
you know, value in using a platform like that to
even help set the courses or direction you know, for
their for their recruiting and their time, because at the
end of the day, yeah, they can't they can't be
in two places and once they're going to have to
pick through games gules and go where they want to go.
So we're hoping that this is a tool for them,
you know, to help expedite kind of some of that
time and get them to the right places to go

(28:08):
see the player in person and build those relationships and
work through those phone calls and work through those things
that ultimately it takes to you know, get a player
on campus. But having that lens I guess and just
like what the coaches you know want to see and
need to deal with two is super valuable there.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, So all the information from any Scout Connect event, tournament,
high school game is all going to be on a
player's profile, and I think the cool thing is is
like the ability to continuously update it, like you'll be
able to see where a guy was in Like let's
say someone comes to our February Winter Showcase right, they're

(28:44):
going to get their dad, other trackmen, their blast, their
sixty time, their video, all all the good things. Right.
And then that same player, I see them at a
high school game in April, right, and maybe this day
they were eighty forty six and the high school day
they're eighty five seven, right. And then in July their
club team is playing out one of our tournaments and

(29:06):
on that day he's eighty six eighty eight. Right. So
now it's the ability to track the progression of the athlete.
And oh, by the way, all of these also have
a video attached to them. So here's the video of
the guy when he's eighty forty six, eighty five, eighty seven,
eighty six, eighty eight, and it's all in one spot
that you can continuously look at it. To me, that's

(29:28):
the coolest thing.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, well, talk about that a little bit more. The
value from both sides of the fence there, from like
the player and families side of the fence, but also
the coaches side of that. What's the value in that?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
You think I'll even make it three fences. So, like
we'll start with the player in the families, right, The
value in being able to see your progress obviously there's
there's a lot of it, but it's physically in front
of you, like, hey, I'm getting better, right, So now
you know that what you're doing is not wasting your time.
It's like whatever you're you're surrounding ecosystem for your development,

(30:00):
is for your training, for your health. Like you're doing
the right thing. Okay, from a coach standpoint, you're looking
at this and being you could look at it from
both sides, from three sides. Honestly, the kid's getting better.
Here's visual proof of it. Okay, they're staying the same,
like they're stagnating or they're getting worse, right and unfortunately,
like all those three are good for a college coach

(30:22):
to know, right, it's just more information. And then from
a scouting evaluation side, for me selfishly, like I can see, hey,
this guy's getting better, Like maybe in this video he's
one hundred and sixty five pounds and like the jersey's
kind of big on him, right, like the pants are
kind of and then in April, okay, like yeah, looks
a little bigger. And then by the summer the guy's

(30:42):
put on fifteen twenty pounds and like he looks good,
but they're still room to grow. Like that tells me
that kid is gonna keep going up.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
But yeah, evaluators look at that and they want to
see you continuing to get better, you know at the
end of the day, like no matter where you're at,
as soon as you start to like plateau or whatever,
then there's questions that start to arise on on is
the athletes talent.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Level like cap there sure have they peaked? Have they peaked? Right?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
That just might be natural organic like know, like yeah,
no matter what workouts you do, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
And then and then another side of it is.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
It brings up questions on like work ethic yep, yeah,
you know, work ethic, accountability, discipline, some of those things
which you know could be red flags. And then it
also is going to bring up like training strategies like well,
because the the the way this evolves for a player
is that like you know, Maxtuers doesn't like deadlift seven
hundred pounds and he throws hard on everybody else, right, Like,

(31:41):
but but Maxtuers had to build enough like strength capacity
to be good, right, But then how does that evolve
for them? And so so so maybe they could look
at that too and say something along the lines of
like you know, the the training strategies or you know
whatever different categories in whether it's like mobility mechanics you know,
ball flight, pitch arsenal stuff or weight room performance stuff.

(32:02):
He's not really evolved like through that, and it needs
to continue to find ways to get better, you know,
at the areas that he needs to improve in. And
it might just be an approach type of thing. I
guess is what I'm getting at is training approach maybe
just off you know, like and you'll see that a lot, honestly,
like especially with like younger players.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I fel subject to this, like absolutely is that, like you.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Get in the weight room, you start to feel strong,
you start to throw harder, Like, well, you know, the
benefits or gains on the baseball field from going from
a you know, three hundred pounds squat to a four
hundred and fifty pounds squat like just aren't the same
as going from a four fifty to five fifty. Like
you have to learn how to be more explosive. You
have to learn how to be you know, keep that
strength and be flexible you know in certain areas. And

(32:42):
even then, like once you build up the necessarily like
physical capacity, and then we're looking at like the flow
of energy and if it being more efficient in their
mechanics and they're timing and all those things, you know,
and then once all those things are in place, then
we're looking at how they're gonna you know, apply the
said pitching metrics or performance metrics actually in the outs
in the game, you know what I mean, Like you know, strikes,

(33:04):
you know, ahead and accounts, put away pitches, sequencing, tunneling
all you know, all those things he fielding your position
and and and controlling the running game and like all
these things that like make pictures into actually good pictures
when they step up on the mound, you know that. Yeah,
I mean, if if you're not seeing that progress, then
then it should it should make you look at each

(33:25):
one of those categories and how am I doing you
know in these in these types of areas, and and
you know have some have some like you know, self
reflection time to like see what it's you know, doing it,
and then you know, it brings up the questions for
the coaches on like what they're doing in each of
one of those categories, which I think can be you know,
super valuable for those guys. You know. But but yeah,
at the end of the day, you know, I think

(33:45):
the the the progression there is extremely important. The reason
I asked and the reason I wanted to touch on
is because you know, all of those exact same things.
You know, if we want to separate this into an
evaluation buckets and development buckets, all of those things are
extremely important to the development coach whose job it is

(34:05):
to help that person keep getting better. That, you know,
that's exactly the way we've built our system based off
of like that importance you know, for the coaches who
are helping them develop along with the coaches who are.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Helping you know, who are evaluating them.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
That you know, those are all things we want to.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
See, you know, we have to. We have some sort
of track.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, We've got like you know, composite scores and report systems,
you know, trends over time to see if they're improving
on their force plate metrics that we wanted them to
focus on or whatever have you. You know, First and
foremost is that like what we're asking this player to
do is working, you know, like we're asking him to
do something that like he you know, isn't producing success form. Yeah,

(34:47):
or even just stay in the same If you're not
getting better, you're getting worse. You know, everybody else is
getting better. So you know, is it working? Is there
an accountability or discipline issue? There is that on our
end of it from a programming and a roach standpoint,
you know, And then and then you know this whole
other wave of well, how are we applying then you know,
all of the things we're working on in the gym

(35:08):
and then the facility and then the bullpens, how are
we actually helping them to produce that like success on
the field that they're ultimately desiring that you know, I
say this all the time, like our core pillars for
premiere or assess, prescribe, train, win, and that's the process
that we want all of these players to go through.
It's so very important to me that that last one
is win because my personal belief and all of our

(35:31):
personal beliefs is like, if if if everything we're doing
in the gym like doesn't produce outs or success or
wins on the field for you, then we wasted a
whole bunch of time and a whole bunch of money
trying to figure out how to do this. That that ultimately,
that's what dictates the success of all of those other
you know, like was did we win If we win
in the assessment was probably pretty good. You know, did

(35:53):
we win in the you know, drill prescription or you know,
programming approach was probably pretty good if we won, And
then the training approach was probably pretty good. You know,
like all of it. We wanted to produce success on
the field, you know, and so you know, just just
to piggyback off of that, and and you know, hear
your context from the evaluator side of it, it's so
extremely important already what we were doing in building you know,

(36:16):
in boost more from a development you know frame of mind,
that it's equally as important.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
On the evaluator side of that.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
And and you know, so for people to hear understand
maybe like you know how those things again just like
data can be viewed as a developmental tool or an
evaluation tool, Like you know, your overall progress is is
you know, viewed in the same sort of regard, you know,
like from the evaluation tool of it. You're like, well, shoot,
I don't want to get this guy on campus and
he's already plateaued. Everybody's looking at him, like, you know,

(36:45):
I'm looking at him when he's seventeen, thinking about what
he could be when he's nineteen, to actually be my
you know, top guy or you know, someone to produce
like on the field for me. Like no one gets
recruited really to just like come and fill a spot like.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, you ain't got time for that, you know. The
coaches don't know today.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
No, no, right, like and and and I mean there
may be some some cases here there where like a
player you know, showed really good success at an earlier
age and maybe had some type of little injury bug
and a coach knows them personally and you know, has
some sort of experience to know that or confidence that
they can get him back to where he was, and
then that probably happens, you know. But but even you

(37:20):
mean to prove your point, and we've talked about this
again in an earlier episode, but just how much recruiting
and everything is changing, you know, evolving right in front
of our face, that you know, there is just like
less spots, less time to be given, you know, for
for opportunities like that. Like there's just so so many
like so much more few spots. I'm saying it terribly,

(37:42):
but so many less spots to go around for just
like I'm going to recruit this guy, give him a spot,
and like hope he pans.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Out in three years.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Like that doesn't happen time anymore.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
It doesn't happen anymore. It's just not at the Division
two level, at the Division one level even honestly now
at the junior college level, like you're gonna get less
and less of that. Kid's a project, raw, gangly project guy,
Like let's let's take a chance. But there's just not time,
Like there's the thirty four man roster until they figure

(38:13):
it all out, until until it can be like thirty
four players and like a six man taxi squad or
whatever like or like red shirts don't count towards the
thirty four man roster whatever that looks like. And no
one knows when that's gonna like what that's gonna look like.
You're just gonna get less and less of that. Like
if you can't be a guy right away, you're you're

(38:34):
not there's not gonna be a spot for you.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yep. Well, I mean that that goes all the way down.
Like some of my initial thoughts are considerations and doing
like a you know, showcase game within within the PCDIL
this summer is that you know, the landscape of recruiting
is just changing so fast right in front of our
eyes that that we're in it every single day and
I couldn't tell you what's gonna happen or you know
what it's gonna look like.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Guys like now there's like the d S A tag
or whatever. And I I asked some of the guys,
the coach that I'm close with at the Division one level,
like hey, what does that mean? And nobody knows what
it means. Like the guys that are about it, that
are making head coaches, that are making decisions, They're like,
we have no idea. Well, then then I mean it.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
You know, I bring that up only to say like
that that to me is like a ton of the
value in scal connect, in scal connect being a tool
with inside a boost, and like the overall pursuit of
creating events and exposure and opportunities for players is that
you know, all of this stuff is changing so much,
you know, all the way down to like you know,

(39:36):
a certain a certain like demographic or player type that
used to be you know, a fring G D one guy,
Like where does he fit in now, you know, like
I'm not necessarily looking for an answer there, but just
the fact that that's so abstract, you know, in the
conversation right now that you know, I don't know flip
a coin, you know, like I'm personally not very good

(39:57):
at that. Like You're gonna be way better off, like
on on evaluation of like where a guy fits in,
way better because I don't look at you know, most
baseball games through that lens. I look at it through like, oh,
well that guy needs to do X y Z better,
and he sure did do this better. You know, I'm
definitely not the evaluator, but you know, like how much
that is changing, what type of effects that's having, you know,
on the players, you know, all the way down to

(40:19):
like the timelines for recruiting, you know, understanding how big
of a you know, life and commitment and everything that
that has to go on, like off the field for
all these guys that like, look right now, I know
some really good twenty six is that you know, have
just watched all their buddies for the last couple of years,
you know, getting phone calls on August first, and I
know the dates changed, but whatever, you know, the first

(40:40):
day that they could get calls and they're getting commitments
and and whatever. That like, some of this recruiting process
is dragging out so much for these players that they're
just not used to that. Because their buddy that they
played with that graduated in twenty twenty four, it looked
entirely different for them, And that's the only context or
lens they have to see this through that they can
wrap their head around why it's totally different for them now.

(41:02):
It's not because they're any different, it's because the game's
totally changed, because the evaluation, then the dynamics, and the
circumstances have all totally changed, you know, so you know,
putting some of these things in place. To me from
a personal motivation standpoint, you know, business side aside is
that there's so much complexity to this and like no
one really knows what's going on. To be honest with you,
it's just like big, you know, shuffle of the deck

(41:24):
and we're going to kind of see where the chips.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Ball, like mentality and that.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Then certainly there's still probably some changes coming that's gonna
affect that even more. Because I don't think we're done
when in the adjustments and and everything that we've seen
and had over the last two years or so five especially,
you know, but the introduction of nil transfer portal, you know,
the new rules for recruiting, the amount of rounds in

(41:49):
the draft, like all of it affects everything all the
way down that that you know, I've said time and
time again, like honestly, if you're playing baseball right now,
and you have even even a thought about playing college baseball,
whether that's you're twelve years old, whether that's you're fifteen
years old, if you think that it's not affecting.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
You, you're extremely wrong.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
It's affecting you. You just probably haven't felt it yet.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
For me, it's like like if we just take the
twenty six class for example, and this is a really
long conversation, right, but like the month of June, so
like the twenty six is this year they were incoming seniors,
so like next year, the twenty sevens the month of June,
like I would throw it out the window. Like I
can't tell you, I didn't see very many college coaches

(42:34):
at a whole lot of summer ball games because in
that month of June, unless it's towards the end of
like the high school seasons, they're not getting them till
the aug they're going to summer ball games because they're
recruiting the portal ye righteous year. So then when I
like for me, when I started to see more like
actual colleges out at summer ball games was July because

(42:55):
the summer season, like the main guys, they're done playing.
It's a lot of like the second and half temp
contract guys in July, so then they move over to
the high school group. Okay, well, then like for those
twenty sevens next year, at the end of July, like
those the bigger schools are going to move on to
the twenty eighth because August first is going to roll around, right, So,

(43:17):
in my opinion, like the most important recruiting time for
your normal average twenty twenty seven next year, not your superstar,
not your top ten, top fifteen, top twenty guy, like
your guy that goes and plays at a Division two
school a junior college, is going to be July and September.
Like for me, if you're super serious and you're twenty

(43:39):
twenty seven about playing college baseball, like the fall becomes
way more important, which might mean for some guys like hey,
I'm a football guy. Yep, right, but I just play
football for my high school team. Like, if you want
to make sure you get in front of the right people,
that September month and October are going to become so
much more important because the attention is being paid less

(44:02):
to the high schoolers in June. But the other the
thing that makes it even harder about that is when
you get into the fall. Now you have all these
big junior college events going on. So not only are
you competing against college leagues in the summer, you're competing
against the Puma, the Dinger, Kansas City, the Midwest Classic.

(44:22):
Hopefully this cout connects you Covent at some point in
the fall. Like, it's never been harder for a high
school player to get recruited, not only the Division one level.
I seriously think you're going to start to see like
Division one recruiting classes of like three four five high
school kids at all levels, but also to get recruited

(44:44):
at any level. And that's why I would tell you, like,
if you're a high school player that is really wanting
to play, you have to go and obviously if it
fits for you academically and life wise, and you know
the other proximity wise whatever, like go where you're gonna play,
because everybody is just a glorified juco at this point.

(45:06):
It just is what it is.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, you know, and I think the I think like
athletes and players and families, which is why we like
to do stuff like this. We spend so much time,
you know, when we're not necessarily doing our day job
of scouting or or you know, pitching training or whatever
that Like, these are the conversations we try to have
because I've had this conversation fifty times this summer, you know,

(45:28):
like of just like different players navigating the portal, navigating
high school recruiting or whatever, because you know, I don't
expect them to, but they don't understand all of those
dynamics in that schedule and how it affects them. All
they see and feels like, well I'm not getting phone calls.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
And you know, am I going to go to college?

Speaker 1 (45:45):
It's all slow, you know, and every you know, the
introduction of the portal and that timeframe from like what
it was the June first, the July fifteenth or something
like that, right that like has just bumped all of
that around, you know, so like understanding where you fit
into that should impact the decisions you make on you know,
your training calendar, the events you attend, and the multi

(46:07):
sports that you choose to play or don't play, and
like all of those dynamics to you know, essentially accomplish
like your big picture goal of going to play college baseball,
if that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
You know that, you know a.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Lot of people are just looking at how it's existed
ten years ago and trying to fit that into the
mold of what they're currently in, not understanding that, like
the game's just changed, you know, like it's just changed.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
It's not you, it's it's not the environment. Like I
think we went in cycles where like there was a
time period like in the early twenty tens and like
when I was coming through high school too, like it
was normal for a lot of people to commit somewhere
their senior year, right, and then we went through like
a branch of time where if you were uncommitted by
your senior year, it probably was a bad thing, yep, right,

(46:52):
And I would say the next couple of years, like
the twenty six is, the twenty sevens and twenty eights,
and even probably the twenty nines, Like when they get
to their senior spring for high school season, you're going
to see a lot of guys that are still uncommitted.
And people are going to freak out about it. And
I mean because the precedent that they grew up with
is you should be committed by then, right, But it's
just going to become the normality of it. Like the

(47:14):
spots are so limited that like even even the schools
and I'm not going to throw names out there, but
like even the schools that you would look at and
be like, that program hasn't had a ton of success,
Like they have to be picky with who comes there
because that's just the environment that they're put in. And
it's going to push everything back. Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Everything is so delayed. And I think that people starting
to view it through that lens is a good, you know,
healthy approach, because I think it also creates a whole
lot of like stress and questioning like am I good enough?
Am I doing the right thing?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Self doubt?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, and that just in your process rather than letting
just the outcome dictate your belief. Am I doing the
right thing?

Speaker 2 (47:56):
And that has like an effect on how you play
on the field. Yeah, Like it really does. Like I've
seen a lot of guys this summer that I know
are good players, right, and I have a relationship with them,
and I know that like they're stressed out about their
recruiting and they're not playing as well.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
And start pressing you, start trying to make something happen
on the base and not letting it.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Come to you, And you're not going to be successful
in this game doing that, You're not.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Let's let's talk a little bit here.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
At the end about some thoughts or some vision on
where you'd like to see Scout Connect go from a
events standpoint, but then also maybe a data you know,
visuals and delivery you know standpoint. You know what what
what magic wand if you you know, were to wave

(48:47):
the magic wand in five years, what's what's Scout Connect doing.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I'm I'm going to give you the answer I give
everybody that asked me that they got no clue. Like
I'm rolling with the punches right now. We'll see what happens.
I have a strong vested interest in southern Illinois and
the Metro East on that side of the river. It's
home for me. That doesn't mean that, you know, neglecting

(49:11):
other parts like Saint Louis, Missouri, whatever. But I don't know,
I don't I have no idea where it's going to go.
Right now, we're just absolutely going with the flow. But
you know, for me, like from a deliverable it's a
data standpoint, a tech capture standpoint. You know, right now,
we got your your your blast motion, your track man,

(49:34):
the vault that we've used a couple of times, like
I'd like to dive more into that. And then obviously
as the game becomes more analytical and more data driven,
which it is, like whether you like it or not,
that's the way it's going. We're going to have to
keep up with it. Right So, whether that means, you know,
from like a biomechanical capture, from like a pitch AI standpoint,

(49:59):
you know, maybe a force plate mound standpoint, more stuff
with the hitters being able to capture data, like more
actual movement pattern data with hitters as opposed to just pitching.
We'll see. But I think the root of it has
to always be providing the player with a deliverable package

(50:22):
that benefits them from a here's where I'm at. But
for me, it's always going to be like, Okay, what
do the schools care about? Like what data are we
giving the player that then they can turn around and
on their profile. It is. It's laid out right there
so that a college coach can look at it and
be like, this information matters to me, because if I'm
just providing an information to provide information, then nobody cares

(50:44):
about It's just a gigantic waste of time and resource,
no doubt.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
I would say that's got to be your biggest like
day to day goal or objective is just like trying
to provide even in an event, you know, like just
trying to provide something that's packaged and presented appropriately for
a college coach to view and digest or consume in
a game that actually breeds you know, the next steps

(51:10):
actions that you know, the initial evaluation process should kickstart
for them, right, Like, it's got to be something that
you know is consumable, digestible, palatable like for the college coaches,
and then all the way down to like easy and
efficient to read, and you know, system that's easy to
navigate and like all those things again all the way
down to even like your day of events and being
able to you know, provide rosters that are appropriately you know,

(51:33):
tagged and uh you know, contact information and details like
that that you know are such such like small things.
But people, you know, people probably don't give.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Any of that enough value. Yeah, no doubt, Yeah, yeah,
because honestly, like, like, let's just be real, Like if
I was to hand a sixteen year old kid that
had no like no P three backing or no MPL
backing or no ACE development backing, and I just gave
them a PDF of their track man pitching data, they
would look at it and be like, I have no

(52:03):
idea what the sp Honestly, most of them probably go
right to the spin rate, which is probably one of
the least important things when you're when you're talking about
like fastball pitch characteristics or change of pitch characteristic. But
like a college coach cares about it correct, right, and
that's that is going to always be our center focus.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Hey man. Yeah, I've said for a long time that,
you know, data data that creates no action for players
is no purpose and a huge waste of time and
money because it probably creates more confusion and questions and
it creates like action and direction. You know that that
creating action from the data is all a player should

(52:43):
ever care about, you know, and you know and that
and that action you know, on the premiere side of
things is you know what you know, how does it
affect our our you know, course of action through the
training programs you know, and on your side of it,
it's got to be actionable for the colleges to help,
you know, create and produce you know, conversations and commitments

(53:04):
and opportunities essentially for players to play themselves, essentially an opportunities.
You can't create any type of opportunities for these players.
All you can create is a is a system or
a workflow I guess for them to work, you know,
a system for them to work through so that the
coaches can consume that and can like take action from
the action that created from your data deliverables or packages

(53:26):
or is action on the coaches and you know, so
for sure, that's great. I appreciate the time.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
That's all we got for today.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Appreciate you guys checking out this video. If you guys
got any thoughts, comments, or things that we talked about
on this that you want some more clarity on our
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section below. Love to talk more with you guys. Thank
you for checking out this episode, and we'll see you
next time.