Will Back to the Future Have to Get Rid of the DeLorean? | Jeromy & Vinz

In this episode we talk about how trade mark and copywrite may be influencing our favorite franchises and removing the things we love. Will Back to the Future have to Remove the DeLorean from their Movies?

Episode Transcript

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You were now listening to the podcastfor Geeks and the Stuff they love,
where each week we'll talk about everythingfrom anime to movies, games and prop
collecting, but the people who createand love it. I'm Jeremy, I'm
Vince, I'm James, and Vitchis your geek. Yeah, you know.
I mean we've been We've been hangingout for what now, five hours
something like that, yet with norecording a real podcast lately. I don't

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even know because of what we've spentus one morning doing and kind of the
urgency of it, I might notget to even get this out unless I
don't edit it. But honestly,we've had a lot of things going on.
We kind of talked about that.I talked about that with James when
he was last on. But youknow, we've besides our own lives,
being very busy and stuff, butalso just big things and traveling. This

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upcoming week, I'm going to Vegasand stuff. You were were you sick
or were you someplace? I can'tremember the last time that we recorded.
You were sick? He was reallysick. I was really sick. Yeah,
which I've got to get an updateon something with that too. But
uh, you know, so wehaven't really had an opportunity to do as
made podcasts. Something else that happened, which plays into actually what I wanted

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to talk about a little bit,and then talking about some other things.
But I, uh so we diddo We invested James and I invested time
on watching and reviewing the worst movieever made, Troll two. We did
that, and I even posted akind of an advertisement for it and things

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and anybody to try to watch it, which I tried posting it six seven
times, kept editing it. Icontacted YouTube, I contacted MGM, I,
I did all sorts of things totry and get this stupid thing down
because and I was and I'm stillI'm trying to pick my battles. But
the same time, I'm still likethis was so good, and I put
so much time into editing it too, that we got to get this out

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there, or at least the thingthat was making me think of this too
is well we'll have been was athome sick. I thought, I just
said, it's at least Evince sohe can watch it, and I could
still do I could do that today. I'm gonna send it to you.
You can watch It's private, butI can't. I couldn't even privately publish
it, like it wouldn't even letme do it where it was hidden.
I only I could view it,so you know, it's and the whole

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reason for that which I was curiousabout this part too. So since you
haven't seen the video, when itdoes come out, that'll be good.
But in the the thing about thisvideo was what we brought up was that
Troll two is not the sequel toTroll. It was. It was just
a movie that was made and theytried to capitalize off of Troll the movie

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for the nineteen eighties, and thenthey put it out and I knew that
it didn't have protections on it,so I thought it was also pretty safe
that way. And I've seen otherYouTubers make the same thing. They do
reaction videos to Troll too, Sowhy should that be a problem, right,
Well, the reason why it's aproblem is because MGM said, hey,

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even though you have the two,at the end, we own Troll,
your movie is now ours, andthey and they they did that,
and they put it together because Trolltwo did do well as far as it's
it's one of the worst movies evermade. It has a huge fan base.
You know the every year also everyyear they have these conferences where people

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go there, they watch the showtogether, they say the lines to the
screen as it's going through the wholething. They always have a panel of
the actors. I mean, thisis a big deal. And and because
of that, now MGM gets asmall portion of that. They also put
they sell a package set of Trolland Troll two together on DVD and now

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and if you go on and Ididn't notice when I so, you know,
I paid for the copy that Iused that we reviewed, and we
we reacted to and we didn't watchit all the way through. We also,
you know, it's edited, it'sit's us talking throughout the whole thing.
Plus you know all this stuff,I mean, all the things that
are fair use on top of that. But it does have MGM at the
beginning. I remember when I waswatching, it was like, MGM,

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this is at the beginning. Ididn't think MGM was evolved. So that's
what happened. Just because they theyhad Troll. It wasn't even the same
logo. It's it's not of thesame type. It's just the word troll.
Because you know, you can justtake the word troll, so this
is meaning also all and all thetrolls movies roll, right, yeah.

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Yeah, So so it's interesting though, just by that piece and something else
that we were talking about earlier,Vince and I, uh, you know,
I'm doing the I'm doing the fanhome build of the the the di
Augustinian model of the die Cast DeLorean, right yeah, and that and what

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Evins is reaching for this yeah,oh that one. Yeah, Oh,
I tell you're gonna be. Youalso have the play a bill one though,
right, the Playmobil. But backto future one. I bought book
one and two of the the egoCiti delare in the Isn't it cool?
But there's I mean small tangent thatlicense plate I got the uh, I

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bought the mod version of it,so it's metal. But at the same
time it has these little tiny registrationstickers. They look exactly what they do
in the US. I don't knowwhat they look like at where you guys
are, but we have these reflectiveuh they're kind of like hologram stickers that
you put on that have the datesof the registration and that's what you had
to put those onto. That lictionlike they have thisse itny bitty little and

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they're made of the same stuff.They're reflective, so cool. At the
same time, they and anybody else. So anything you have, you have
a shirt that has a DeLorean onit that you're selling, you've got anything
you have. Uh. The thingsthat have come out recently is there is
now a lawsuit and it looks likethey're gonna win by DeLorean, the manufacturer

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who's now releasing a new Delorian.Uh, because apparently DeLorean himself didn't actually
own the rights to the DeLorean imagename and things like that at the time
that he sold the rights to towas a universal that it was a universal
that made back to the future,wasn't it. I think, so,

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yeah, that's great filmed it sayings. But at the same time, but
yeah, they didn't sell them therights to it. So because Delaurian itself
didn't sell the rights and they werethe ones retaining it at that time,
and he sold the rights after hehad already given up the company. They're
saying, hey, you know,technically everything that's ever been made that relates

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to this movie, and at theDeLorean itself, I should say and sell
the movie, every toy, everythingelse, like we need to be paid
for that now because we you know, and you know, going back uh
retro, and we should be gettingsomething for that. Even the Mandalorian witch
out Yeah, there you go,but only the one that's silver. Yeah.

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But yeah, So, I mean, like it's super interesting that you
know, you have this thing wherepeople, these properties that we like after
all this time now are being threatenedand the toys we have, you know,
I mean, I mean, ifyou really I'm not saying that this
could happen, But at the sametime, I mean, there is there.
It's it's not unrealistic that even likethe van home stuff or or the

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one six scale or even this oneI've got over here, that they couldn't
be you know, hampered and continueto sell them if these groups don't agree
to the new license or to thisretro license and think so it's a big
deal, goober evinced Yeah, No, I mean I do think. I

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do, though I'm not a lawyerin any means, but I do think
that because the President's there, thatthey are selling this and have licenses from
a license or that they can dowithin the license that they purchased, do
whatever they want, and that it'sup to maybe them as the license or
to figure it out. But yeah, I don't know. I mean,

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it's a sad state of affair.I do know. For example, sometimes
people or companies that's say established inthe nineteen two or like old sixteen whatever,
they tend to just go to thetrademark office and buy old trademarks and
then make it look like it's anold company. But the company hasn't existed

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on paper for sixty seventy years ora hundred years even. And if that's
the case, that people can reactroacticallyget the rights to something and then say,
oh, anything and everything you madein that likeness it's ours. That's
that's a pretty dangerous president. Ithink. Well, it goes like like
the we've been we've been talking aboutGhostbusters today. Even with like Ghostbusters,
you know, you remember we've talkedabout this a little bit on here before,

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not in super detail, but themovie they they had the rights and
worked out the rights to be ableto use the name Ghostbusters. Yeah,
but it was limited. They couldn'tit couldn't be in cartoon form, uh,
comic form or some one other oneand and so the cartoon so of

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course it's it's the name Ghostbuster Storyor Important Doing Well and yeah that so
the cartoon was called the Real Ghostbusters. Meanwhile, it was at that same
time or just before that came out. I think it was that Ghostbusters the
cartoon came out, which anyone thatdidn't live in the nineteen hold is that

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comic? It was? It wasfrom like the nineteen forties or fifties,
wasn't it. It's really old.Yeah, the comic is old. And
then there was this Life Extra showwith Yeah, well that's that was as
old as like, uh, likethe Three Stooges that the Live actually show
because I haven't had somebody from uhyeah, I had one of them in
it, uh you know at onepoint. So I mean like that was

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a black and white old movie ghostyou mentioned, you mentioned the Three Stooges,
and I still don't know anything aboutthem except yes, Larry, Larry,
Curly and Mode. That's the onlything I know. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, that's all you needed nowreally, But that's that's that's yeah,

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you know, that's Shep apparently.But I mean, uh, at
a Maniacs is the main source forthose kind of thing like garage, I
don't know anything about it based onit. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and all that kind of stuff.But no, and then at least where
I'm from, that's old stuff youonly got from American media referencing it and
not so much actually seeing the media. So yeah, yeah, I get

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that it's so weird. I'm notthat old, but I remember you went,
like I said it, when Iwas a little kid. I remember
watching like Avon Costello, which we'reold at that point already, but sometimes
like a safe show to watch.And we had Charlie Chaplin. Uh yeah,

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was called again. I forgot thename, like the the Westerns,
spaghetti Westerns or guy good guy withthe with the fists beird gay, I

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forgot. But Spencer that's the one, oh my gosh. And and the
worst thing is we watched it inGerman dubs because came in Germany and they
they we had but Spencer and TerrenceHill, right, uh huh, those
two like those guys. That that'swhat Yeah, that's that's what I mean.
Yeah, I mean imagine that's allhard thing though, is I mean,

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these were even intentional remakes, It'sjust that they were using the same
name, but they had to becareful about licensure. And then yeah.
For that reason the cartoon, that'swhy it's called the Real Ghostbusters is because
they couldn't use ghosts. Yeah yeah, so yeah, I mean who knows,
Yeah yeah with the lory. AndI think it's concerning what the other

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end. I mean, if theydid, you know, spend the money
on the license and it is anactual thing that they own, then they
all means they should have the rightto. But I I think it will
damage your brand more if you're goingto go after the people who are already
doing stuff and forbidding it. Andthat's so much to say, Okay,
well this is the fee, andand and and go on with your business.

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I mean, there is a bigfranchise involvement. You could also state,
for example that although the you couldyou could maybe do it like the
same thing as I did with I'lljust call it the time machine and have
like the the iconography of the motivede Larean is the dime machine. The

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fact that it happens to be adeloriate is fine, but we won't mention
it anymore. We just have todie machine. And that's the right ipet
that we can license. For example, the time machine and the big old
will on the back and yeah,but I mean having the license Deloreate parts
and basically building a DeLorean up untilthe last part of turning it into a
dime machine with the Christini kit isgoing to be a problem, of course,

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because you're building an actual Delaiate oldskid. But yeah, I mean
just just saying that. Okay,well, the the Back to the Future
dime Machine is different license wise thanan actual DeLorean car, right, I
can think that. That's actually sothat was the argument though they already went
through that. So they said,well, you know, but you know,
Aris is actually time machine is notexactly the car. It's the problem

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is that it says on the frontin the movie, and there's shots multiple
times of that Delorian logo and theDeLorean statement on the side. So yeah,
Delaurian is the logos in the centerthe book words around that's right there.
Yeah, yeah, it's on thebumper and things. I mean,
Delaurian put their their id all overthe place on it. Yeah, And

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so there's no taking that out.And the question of where you want to
go back into the movies, yeah, do George Lucas and just change it
all. I don't know, butI mean you know, a similar thing
happened. Another kind of similarly relatedthing is the whole Steamboat Steamboat Willie situation.
You know, you've got you gotmaking a lot of people out there

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thought that Mickey Mouse was what wasrunning up and and Disney actually made a
comment that they aren't going to useMickey as their as their what do you
want to call it? Yeah,or that's what do you call it?
Mascot? Yeah, they're not.That's not gonna be the mascot anymore.
And so you know that they're goingto be trying to find something that's more

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I don't know what it's gonna be, something that's you know, more modern
or whatever. But on the flipside, I think people misunderstood all this.
Fans out what was what was coming, what was well they I think
a lot of people thought, well, this means that once when that that
runs up, that we can useanything that's that's Mickey Mouse free use.
And it was only Steamboat Willie,only the black and white from that cartoon

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that was which by the way,wasn't created by Walt Disney. That's also
a very popular thing. That's youknow, there was soaking uh. But
at the same time. You knowthat Steamboat Willie was the only thing they
got that got released. And ofcourse there was a horror movie named Steamboat
Willie that came out as soon asthat thing was It was I think interesting
because they weren't even like that wasn'teven free use at that point. But

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they were already making the movie clearlybefore that. Like how they got away
with that? But then they yeah, they released this horror movie named that.
But the problem they ran into isthe Mickey Mouse that's in it is
Mickey Mouse, not Steamboat Willie.Yeah, so, uh so for that
reason, now they're running into problemswith that movie. And then other people
have made a lot of YouTube thingsand stuff like that that were and and

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Disney goes after people liked nothing.When it comes to that stuff, it
is that they were releasing Mickey Mouserelated stuff thinking that they were free use
now and they weren't. And soit's real tricky. Uh you know,
it's these these are things that thatyou gotta be careful about. Vince,
tell us about some of your Ido you mind talking about some of your

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experience recently with licensed things and tryingto get get the use and get it
make it work. I mean,it's an adventure you've been through. You
got to do a little documentary.Yeah, maybe maybe that's let's just be
the document Then the low effort wasso yeah, I'm a big well,
no, that's it. I ama Ghostbusters fan. And during the luckdown

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at COVID and all that kind ofstuff, I got bored and I started
buying prop replicas for Ghostbusters. AndI've always liked the movies. I've always
played the games. They collected somesmall stuff, but never never that big.
I had the the Acto one asa kid that I bought it a
free market second, and it wasnever a main thing. But I found

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out that I really like building thoseprops because they're low, well not no
effort, but they go wide didthey go deep, And there's a lot
of lore behind a lot of informationabout it. But Ghostbusters embraces the fact
that you are a real laiged guybuilding something in your garage, which is
what I'm doing most of the time, and so you can get you can
get away with the imperfections, andI think that was really freeing for me.

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Then they call it the wonkiness ofthe of the parts, and it's
it doesn't have to be perfect becausesomeone just made it in the garage and
and that's that's how it's done.So I got into prop collecting, prop
making and one of our so Ghostbustersit Salva and Alan's is not a big,
big fandom in Germany. However,there's a huge fandom like compassing like

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the whole of Germany. And theyhad an actual German dub of the movie,
like the actual Ghostbusters live action moviewas dubbed in German and joining a
friend club that had their own standon cons UH day. This is Columbia,
right, Columbia's for keep it straight. Colombia is the one that's in

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charge of Ghostbusters to be complete here, Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's
just in my head, okay.The just just the preamble is that the
Ghosts Friend Club has a nice standslike conventions, and the German UH Ghostbusters
group had an interactive stand where theywould go to the I mean, getting

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Dad Achrouters or Bill Murray or ErnieOtson costs lots of money to to do
some voice work, but in Germanythey asked the old voice acts from the
movie to dolice work for their interactivestamps. And then they had the German
Ghostbuster experience and those those voice actorswould would love to do that. And
I was thinking, okay, wellwe in the evidence we don't have a

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dubbed version of your original movie ifwe do have Dutch voices for the Ghostbusters
in the Real Ghostbusters cartoon, becausein the eighties the Real Ghostbusters cartoon was
dubbed in Dutch. So I justwent on like Wikipedia, Wikipedia and Wikipedia

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both just in case and and it'sa special Finns version. But uh,
and I looked at the names andI just you know, put us on
rental LinkedIn and started looking for thosenames. And I just found the name
of the guy who did Eagle Spanglerand the guy was a total stranger to

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me. So I had to activatemy premium trial on LinkedIn to send him
a message. And no, no, no, he has classes though,
but that's the only thing. Hesounds like him. Yeah, but yeah,
but the thing is the psychonic Wewrote it all after and he says,
oh, cool, let's meet up, and he visited my house.

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I showed himself with the props thatI had and we talked about it and
he yeah, I gradually gained likea list of actors who were involved with
the with the Real Ghost Busses cartoonand also the first responsible for the dubbing
studio back then, because I wantedto find out if there were any tapes

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or if there was any digital wayto get that cartoon shown, because I
was looking for nostalgia and I wantedto know how those episodes sounded like.
So yeah, long story short,Basically, I have the cast of the
Real Ghost Busses in the Netherlands behindme that that may be interested in either
releasing the Dutch up on DVD orsomething, or maybe even dubbing episodes that

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were ended up before. Now howthat goes is you you basically have to
have a license for that. Sothe first thing I did was, Okay,
I'll send an email to Universal,I'll send an email to Sony.
Nothing. I just Netflix, baby, nothing, nothing, nothing. So
Julie and I we decided to to, you know, dress up and just

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go to Amsterdam to the Universal Studiosoffice and the Netflix office because we also
heard that there was going to bea sequel to the Real Ghostbusters Uh cartoon
on Netflix every time in the future. So do the old cast, who
at least Julie and the guy doingPeter Weigmann, were interested in doing new

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dubs for the new series or fornew episodes. So we thought, okay,
well we'll just go there to Universaland ampsteam and see see how far
we go. When we got there, it was a very bare bone in
the situation, like it was basicallyjust a offshore office. There was someone
sitting behind the reception with some DVDboxes like limited edition ones that had some

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stuff on there and not not much, not much there. So we said
about yeah, but but I meanit was it was the DVD Blu Ray
division of Universal, So we wereso so we get there and yeah,
you he just says, Okay,I'm the voice of Eagle Spagler for the

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cartoon in the in the eighties,and we would be interested in finding out
who the licenser was or someone inlicensing who could help us out with the
thing. I mean, uh,Ghostbusters having a revival, we have we
have quite a lot of fans inthe Lelns who would love to get the
Dutch dub of the cartoon. TheDutch stop of the cartoon is also very
very Dutch, so uh, theytalked over the intro. They talked over

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the outro. They made fair ofcourse jokes are very funny jokes. And
basically the Yui was the guy whowas translating the script. They only got
the script and not the video becausethe guy dubbing from the dumbing studio figured
out that if as long as yourvoice is in sync, it will match.
The voice flaps. Yeah, thevoice flaps, and kids wouldn't even

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notice, right, so flaps.Yeah. So so he only got like
the the written script and he hadto translate this. So everything that happened
in New York happened in Amsterdam.Everything that happened in the Empire State Building,
for example, was at another locallandmark. So it came. So

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she says, well, we're basicallya cinema mostly and the DVD stuff was
going away, but we'll let youknow. So, uh yeah, for
me, Amsterdam is like a fourhour trip or something. At least it
was a big, big investment forlike five minutes of talking, but I
thought it was worth it. Thenlater on we thought we'd go to Netflix

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as well, but the Netflix officewas in Amsterdam. It was a half
an hour drive from the part inAmsterdam that we were to the other part,
and it's not really it's it's documented, but it's not really an inviting
place to go because it's in alike in a suburb somewhere. It doesn't
say Netflix on the on the everything, unless you know you have to go
there, and unless you're like acontent creator or something. You go in

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there and it's it's like a lounge. It's like Netflix logo. It has
like the the curtains in the shapeof the logo opening that kind of star.
That's kind of cool. It looksreally cool. Yeah, but there's
this lady with a laptop standing therebasically being the bouncer, and they go
like, okay, who are youhere for? Or is said, well,
the guy responsible for the rights forthe new ghost Quast cartoon. Do

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you have a name? No?Okay, well then I there's one thing
I can give you. And that'ssaid this because she goes to a little
cabinet, shops the doors and getslike a business card and it says and
so and nesis not cold. Hereyou go, good luck. Here's how
you sign up. Yeah. Yeah, no, this is like, okay,
so this is just a billing office. Yeah no, Well, the

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universal looked like it was a butICs was something else that's weird. But
yeah, no, I went contactwith the hopefully the global licensing manager of
Sody because Universal doesn't do anything yeahin the nethers about that, but we'll
see, Oh we'll get a Dutchversion released. Yeah yeah man, yeah,

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so yeah, Sonny, Columbia isthe they're they're one thing. But
I wasn't sure that how that breaksdown. I know, sometimes different countries
because like you can't always even evenhere on YouTube. Yeah, you know
some things, if I do somethingwrong or well, like like with some

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of the whole troll thing, itimmediately tells you what countries are blocked from
because it's protected in those countries,and so you know, the license can
only be done in certain things likeYeah, the people have learned, for
example too, when you go topost a video if you're reviewing like a
video game or something put on there, that you don't want it released in

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any Asian country because also the firstcountries are gonna block you, and that
will try to also put in astrike against you, okay, and and
so but yeah, so I meanit's not what Vince is trying to do
is like a big thing. Itsounds it sounds like smaller to trying to
get it just for the Dutch,but it's like you're trying to get it

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from the people that up to Yeah. Yeah. And it's also you have
to knowing today where you can't getin. So I called the UK office
a while back and I said,hey, listen, you're Sony UK.
I am just looking for someone thatcan help me out. Okay, who
do you need? I said,I don't know the like the last manager.

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Yeah, yeah, sorry, Ican't help you with that. So
I just went went with googling andI found I found the name of the
lady. I said, okay,call back again, said Hi, this
is Fins again, I get thisperson. Did I talk to you earlier
this morning? I said, yeah, Where did you get the name from?
I said, I just googled it. I mean honest, I mean

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yeah, no, yeah, she'sshe's here, but she's not in the
system, and you can't really goingyeah yeah. But now now I got
her on LinkedIn and and we chatteda bit hopefully that but you need to
know the name. And it's reallydifficult because I also contacted the people who
did the German dub on DVD andit's basically that they did an A S

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D on Blu Ray. So basicallythey got the whole series on Blue Ray
and as the quality, but itmeans that they only have to have one
Blue Ray to put old series on. They only had like twenty twenty episodes
dubbed. Uh, and yeah,we have some more, I think,
and they're willing to dub them,you know, at lower cost, the
new ones that only English. Sothat's interesting. Wow, I mean,

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how cool? Though this is stillpretty this pretty exciting stuff. Are you
gonna livet oh? I know,it's just the least. Why I was
drinking so much during your interview too, is because I've been sick for like
three weeks. Yeah, and Iand at work it's bad, like again,
work in the hospital and me coffeeno you know. But at the

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same time anyway, yeah, Ithink it's I mean, on one hand,
it's it's it's a hassle and andit's problematic and and you know you
don't want some of these you know, these limitations and these licenses like ruining
things. I get what they're place. But on the flip side, there's
some interesting stories about how and why. It also explains why we have certain

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things the way they are, ohwith it, so I might be going
to see I'm afraid. I toldVince earlier, I'm going, you know,
to Vegas this upcoming week, andI've gone through. We had multiple
things we've gone through setting up,so we were supposed to go to Teller's
house to do a tour. ThenI realized, you know, there's this
other guy by the name of fromHe's he's as the coolest videos and things.

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He has a house. He's anillusionist that's popular in Vegas and he's
really popular online. But he's gonethrough and he made like a trap door
in his house and stuff like that. So I'm sure you've seen his veels
and he's like excited. He's great. Guy contacts me immediately back every time
I ride him, and he's like, Yeah, this is gonna be great,
let's do this. And that secondI told him what days would be

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there, he's he's like, oh, you know, I'm gonna be gone
all those days. Hopefully we mightbe going still to go. There's there's
somebody actually owns the kit Car.The kit Car who bought it from actually
the person that my family knows thatmy dad knew that. I think I've
told I actually told the yost aboutand stuff. But at the same time,

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this car has car right right,the kit car right. But anyway,
but the show, it had blacktires on it. Currently it has
fire I think it's Firestone tires onit for good Year, one of those
two. And and I saw theinterview with him as to why he's left

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them on. The reason was becausewhen the show was on, the show
had him go promote the car.It was being sponsored by Goodyear or Firestone,
which one it is. I hadGood to Your tires on it.
He decided to leave the Good ofYour tires on it, so you know,
on the show they're all black tires, but he left them where they
say this thing on it. Sometimesit's that the why something turns out the

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way it is, or why itwas left in a certain state that can
be interesting just in and of itself. I think, so, yeah,
I don't know, but yeah,yeah, Well one of the things that
I had, for example, isa prop from Hada the Amazon Prime story.
Yeah, yeah, like the suitcase. Yeah that's no longer a propromanta,
it's a Ghostbuster suitcase that I nowhave. Yeah, because I am

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the custodian of the prop, andnobody really cares about the suitcase. I
think, so that that that gotturned into something else. But you see,
also like a lot of props thatare used in movies, for example,
are from prop houses that used formultiple things, like the PK E
meter from the Ghostbuster shows up insome other movies at times, and like

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radios and all that stuff tends toget reused and also added upon All Star
Trek stuff. All Star Trek propsare being reused and other stuff. So
yeah, I think there's a there'sa line between curation, restoration and uh
yeah, maintaining what it is alsobut also adding to it to it,

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I mean, it's his story orI assure say with the kids card,
uh that that that that the goodYear tires are on there because of the
promotion, right, I mean yeah, yeah, Well, and then also
this is how you identify the prop. So part of the way, the
reason why they killed this was theactual screen news. There's only this is

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the only one that's by the wayin exists. It truly was screen used,
yeah, not exploited, not crushedand things, but also the other
ones just they kind of disappeared overtime. He knew that there was this
one that was hidden somewhere and hefinally found out and I again the road
somewhere. Yeah, I in thiscase the guy it was being used.
It was part of his collection.He would take these, you know,

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around and and for promotion for thestudios. See he also owned uh the
Aston Martin back in the day,uh, which the one that went that
got taken and dropped into the oceanby accident. That was his two side.
But you know, at the sametime, like this is how you
know, it's the actual properties.So he's like, there's the tires,
the fact that certain things on theinside the way they were, you know,

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they can match it to the screen. So there's weldmarks on the inside
of the door, for example,that are horrible weldmarks. And the reason
was because in one of the episodesthey had one of the cars it has
to be rebuilt, and they justtook off the doors. Well it's just
natural that was welding the side ofthe door. So they have this big

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long weld score basically. But becauseof that, they also they're able to
say, yeah, that's it,all right, this is the one that
was there. And all the exposedpieces and stuff. So you know,
the tires are part of that journey. Now, no, it's not screen.
And also there's a lot of thingsthat are really messed up on it.
But he's like, you know that'sbut that this is the that's this
is a real car. You know, low definition you couldn't see these things,

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but this is what really looks like. And so so yeah, I
mean, I think it's it's cool. I think it's cool to know that
these things are out there and thatthey exist and that people like Vin's is
going to keep them you know,going and uh and stuff like that.
But I I will say, yeah, if you're not seeing tons of podcasts
right now, that's okay. Weit's because we are doing other things because

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we're trying to turn out stuff.It's not like an every week thing I
ad met right yet. But wewill probably get together and do you know,
a slough together and to hang out. This is our opportunities to hang
out. Uh. But we justwe've had some good surprises, I mean
really good the stuff that we're gonnabe able to show you only on that
trial general. I mean, thisis an exclusive. Vince and I are

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the first people to see some thingsI found out that we we actually I
don't know behind the scenes on thevideo that I released yesterday. Technically it
was even it was even more accuratethan the prop, I guess in some
way because it was based off ofa photo that's been you know, there's
been tweaked to look like the eventualthing will be. So I think when

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he saw the movie parts he saidwith my hands and everything, it really
threw him off to Yeah, soanyway, but yeah, I mean the
actual prop isn't even there yet.No, it's not bill yet. So
anyone that was writing me, howdid you get this so quick? I
didn't, I said in the video, I don't know. I can't wait
to get mine because I did nothave one. It was just I just

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thought it was a dynamic weight andI probably do that sort of thing again
where it's like it just shows theenvironment and where you can see the you
know, the I think I stillhad it too big too now based on
we got to see the real propat this point or the size of it
and stuff. But at the sametime, like I got to, uh,
I just think it's neaeder to seeit the way it would look inside

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the space, and so I mightdo that again. I'm not trying to
mislead anyone. I just I justthink it's better than seeing. I hate
when I go in and it's like, let's look at this the first look
at something and then they look atreally low quality pictures. Yeah, I
want something where it shows something thatshows interaction. I just thought I thought
about having a three D model.I mean, like like the late where

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it has the lines, uh,you know, going through the stuff,
this kind of show like this iswhat it would look like color gramble.
But at the same time, yeahit Yeah, I don't know, because
I just casually sent you an email. I love that, you know,
And i'd been I've been trying tocontact Chris for a while. He's just

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always traveling and stuff, and sohe'd always be like we I stay in
contact with his family quite a bit, actually, yeah, because like yeah,
I mean, I mean, hehas an amazing family. Everyone inside
of his family are just I meangreat people and very creative. So most
of disposable income is funding this family. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well it's

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crazy because you know, I mean, I honestly, like I talked to
him about this before, like hedoesn't make much from the one company.
Nobody at their company does. Imean they make the No, they make
a reasonable like living. But theyreally kind of are I mean, they
really truly are there for the fans. They they they will downprice things almost

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a point of not being a business. So it's pretty crazy. It's like
it's up and downs and yeah andthe and nice to have. Yeah yeah,
So I mean, I I wouldguess this week is when I'm releasing
all these videos from from this interview, which was almost four hours. It

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took me so long to edit thefirst I've gotten pretty pretty efficient in my
video editing this. Yeah. Yeah, well, and and I hopefully I
did. Also, Oh, youknow what, We're gonna do one more
recording real quick because Ben, thisis gonna be important events too. So

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stay tuned for next time because wegot some other things that are hopefully good
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